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News/Upcoming:
http://www.cool-b.jp/calendar.php
http://otomex.net/calendar

FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/bqwGmEeC

Rec chart:
http://pastebin.com/dDnYWGem

BL Downloads:
http://pastebin.com/Vz6NsMpe

Otome Downloads:
http://pastebin.com/SnkfJYnm
http://pastebin.com/HRKrTLj0

English Otome Games:
https://vndb.org/g542?fil=lang-en

Translation status:
https://boards.4chan.org/jp/catalog#s=visual%20novel%20translation%20status

Character Birthday Archive:
http://piratepad.net/qP0sKOGum6

Various game/CD info:
http://pastebin.com/vpRaP1Cm

Previous thread: >>133939283
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>>135492067
That one isn't a sequel/FD, it's an entire new game with new characters.
It's questionable if an anime of the original game would be a good advertisement for something like that.
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>>135494752
I need more hikki/broken boys
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Is there a good android input dictionary that doesn't require you to know stroke order?
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>>135502043
Cat boys are the best.
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Small reminder to do the daily gacha thing to get an Ichuu card of your choice: https://i-chu.flyinggacha.com
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>>135499654
All of them are not that good because freeware. I use Kanji Recognizer.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHsbUpL62d4
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https://twitter.com/SpikeChunsoft_e/status/710334113719267329

Happening? Not happening?

>>135499654
Google translate works surprisingly well.
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>>135508142
>hunky cast
I wouldn't call any of them hunky, but okay.
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>>135508142
Would be cool, but I doubt it.
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>>135508142
Why do people keep asking for unreleased games? Wait until it's released, to see if it's even worth it.
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>>135510701
Might as well start early, but hopefully is not a case like Reine des Fleurs, which ppl are still asking to come over.
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If Kenka Bancho Otome does come over, there will probably be a lot of backlash from people who are fan of the original series since we haven't gotten one in years.
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>>135508142
I don't see it happening at all, but even if it did then I imagine it would flop terribly.

That game's on my watchlist, might pick it up later if reviews are favorable.
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>>135508142
>"If there's enough interest, we'll consider it!"

Translator's note: that's Japanese for "there's not enough interest so give up"
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>>135512367
You never know. At least with Mangagamer it sort of worked.
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>>135510701
I saw someone complaining that the DwD game hasn't gotten an English release. On top of that they were saying that Rejet has more English-speaking fans than Japanese. How do people come up with this stuff and where do they get their sense of entitlement?
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>>135512680
The fandom is full of stupid people
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>>135512680
probably from tumblr
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>>135512367
It must have somehow worked since we did get 3 games last year.
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>>135512680
>>135513287
And that's why I want as little localisations as possible. Keeps out a huge part of the retards, because they're to lazy to learn nip.
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>>135514010
And yet DiaLovers has tons of idiotic English fans and none of those games have been translated. Otome games should stop having anime.
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How do these people even become huge fans of these games if they've never played them and don't know Japanese?
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>>135514379
mix of tumblr (which is often misinfo from dumbasses guesslating or skewing) and anime (which is a terrible thing to do because adaptations are notorious for taking liberties and in some cases rewriting shit to the point of being a bad fanfic)
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>>135514309
That's because of the CDs, mostly. All of them were translated just a few days after the initial release.
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>>135514776
I remember that happened with Danganronpa and now that game's permanently tainted thanks to them
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>>135514309
Technically the first DiaLovers is translated. And some of the others, too, I think.
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>>135514010
The only thing that matters is if they are fans who are actually buying the games.
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Is surugaya the best place for used games or?
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>Price: US$ 46.99 (CAD~62.55)
Sometimes I'd like to live in burgerland.
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>>135415101
Thank you. I will look at my team, though I do have my strongest cards selected now.
Are those points for pros get full perfect combos in expert? Highest I've ever gotten was in the 700K range.
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>>135519387
Surugaya is the best place for used stuff in general.
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>>135512680
This is why I like IF closing their comment section on youtube.
Good example of retards is the comments from >>135517124

>inb4 looking at the comment section in youtube
Yeah, I know
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>>135514010
>>135523328
Glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks that.

>>135514379
Those "huge fans" often judge a game solely by its art. Or they just read some reviews and think they know all about it.
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>>135522004
If you can get an entire group together, make use of their group skills. I have a LE which multiplies the points per Pop note by 4, thanks to that I easily score around 3M to 3.8M (depends on how many notes the song has).

>>135510701
EOP jump at every opportunity, that's how desperate they are. They'd be better off learning Japanese instead of spamming devs and companies.
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>>135510701
>>135512680
They're naive impatient people thirsty for more content. There's a market, but the other foreign audience isn't getting any. Even if they get it, it's not high quality unlike what the contents of the japanese swim of in boatloads thanks to their culture and what the foreign audience regard some of untranslated stuff as.
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>>135520732
It's basically what games cost here anyway.
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>costs as much as a Vita itself to buy a decent memory card and a new game
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>>135529993
That's why you buy physical copies for vita games.
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>>135530193
And then you're paying additional shipping and import fees for every game.
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>>135531067
Either way, you're paying extra money.
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>>135531067
What is your point? We all know this hobby is expensive.
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>>135531649
It's always this excuse for Sony's retarded memory card prices.
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>>135531649
>What is your point?

That buying physical copies costs as much if not more than buying digital copies and recommending the former over the latter solely for that reason is dumb.
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On average, what are the differences between PSP and Vita versions of the same game to make the latter worth it?
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>>135532453
Some know how to avoid import fees or don't have to pay them at all, not to mention shipping fees change per area. Hell, there might be one or two anons that live in Japan and pick up the game in a store.
When buying games it just comes down to the person buying it and how much they want to spend.
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>>135533431
Vita ports often include additional scenes, CGs, or bonus material. They also look nicer, because the screen is obviously better.
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>>135533431
It varies, but sometimes there will be additional CGs/scenarios, maybe touch features. Other times, it's just a matter of the game looking significantly better on the Vita screen.
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>>135514010
>>135514309
>>135525082
>Games being promoted is a bad thing

There is no such thing as bad publicity. Even if the fans are idiots word-of-mouth spreads awareness of the genre, which generates interest, and interest is what gets consumers. Even if you only import games if you like the genre it is something to care about. But if you don't otome will fortunately get steamrolled by mobile and none of this matters.
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>>135531895
There are other options to save money, like buying a cheap memory card and transferring the save data to your PC. Sure it's a hassle, but there are ways to avoid spending more.
Also, Sony did lower their proprietary memory card price to almost half compared to 4 years ago. They could possibly lower it even more so in the future.
>>135532453
Some digital games aren't even that cheap compared to getting the physical versions that had some % discounts with shipping and fees.
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>>135534585
If the consumers have shit taste, I'd rather see the genre die than start catering to them.
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>>135534585
English otome gamers make out a small percentage of the consumers. It's highly unlikely that otome will die out in Japan any time soon even if the English community vanishes.
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DL version is out.
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Any known problems with ITH? I heard it gets detected as a trojan.
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>>135539694
What? That's the first time I've heard of that. Isn't it a simple program to use? It runs fine for me. Haven't run into any problems except for when I try to use it on incompatible game engines.
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>10
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lewd
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>>135537732
You guys gotta tell me how this turns out.
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What optical drive emulation software do you prefer?
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>>135547728

OSX
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Fuck Baidu
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>>135547728
A monocle
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>>135550315
>ytw the password is written in pinyin
Those Chinese secret clubs really make me question my life choices sometimes.
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>>135547728
Daemon Tools Lite, but I've got an older ver. and apparently the new versions have chinese spyware so...
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>>135547728
Virtual CloneDrive is the best. I switched from Daemon Tools and not once have I regretted it.
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Up
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>installing game
>The following file already exists
>data.xp3
>Would you like to replace the existing file?

What do?
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>>135556875
Second this. Virtual CloneDrive works very nicely.

>>135564167
Rename existing data.xp3 file to data(2).xp3 and then carry on installing.
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Look at those shoujo legs
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>>135571634
Is this by Clamp?
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>>135571634
He looks like a fucking alien and I love it so much.
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>>135571634
Has this been shopped?
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>>135526009
Thanks for the tip.
My other issue is accuracy. I don't full combo in expert. I'll usually get a few misses and one or two bads, and 100 greats. But I'm not sure how to land more perfect to boost the points. Maybe I just suck? I feel like I'll always be rushing to keep up in expert and unable to do hit the notes better.
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>>135574212
Don't worry, you'll eventually get better at it. Just keep practiving.
On another note, depending on the skills you want to use, lowering your HP is the key to activating them. Perhaps you should make use of them instead of franatically trying to get a full combo.
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>>135571634
Damn Nikkari's bro isn't fine as him.

Anyone know how long is his timer?
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>>135575192
10 hours
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>>135571634
He sounds too much like my husbando, I feel conflicted.
I wonder how his recollection with Yamabushi is like
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>>135576854
Wait, he has a recollection with Bushi? never thought it would be their pick. Do they have any historical thing going on?
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What the hell happened to the two worst Psychedelicas.
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>>135582284
Blonde turned into best boy.
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>>135571634
He looks way too frail to be on the battlefield.
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From such a height!
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>Did 10 pulls
>Got 0 5*
The rate up is a lie.
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>>135582284
Eh? Who are those?
The VAs are the same as last Psychedelica, but Ishikawa was doing the red one, blonde was Kakki?
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>>135586858
I know it's second nature to color code waifus but look at the rest of his features.
>hair shape
>two moles under eye
>holding a rabbit thing
>same seiyuu
Whoever he is he's obviously derived from Hikage, not Karasuba.
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Up
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>>135582284
>>135589354
Don't forget that Hikage was only posing as Monshiro/Kazuya. We never got to see what he actually looked like. If this is really Hikage Psychedelica 2 is probably going to be a prequel rather than a sequel.
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Up
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>>135584850
After toku and refining, apparently he has 78 leadership. Taroutachi's is 77. The devs have a strange sense of humor.
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>>135571634
Are there already any recipes/crafting percentages floating around?
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In clock zero, why are common words such as dame and ore written in katakana, especially since ore is written in kanji in other places ?
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>>135600239
It's just a stylistic thing, I think. One character using オレ , while another uses 俺 is common in pretty much every game. Same with ボク/僕
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>>135600239
Cause Nips think it's kewl.
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>>135574630
I had to rework all my teams again, but I got about a two hundred point boost on a song I constantly averaged the same number on. Thanks a lot, Anon.
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>>135582284
>left
Was hoping I wouldn't have to see him again.
Elric a cute though.
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>>135597985
Same anon, I got him with all100, no ema, Mikazuki as leader.

I saw lot of people got him with this recipe, looks like this is a new kami recipe. You can also check wiki for more recipes
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How much does text options effect things in Mebiusline?

eg. Economic and military growth is necessary/undesirable
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>>135609071
is that a game or an exam
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Reminds me, April Fools is coming up.
Can't wait for the gag pages.
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>>135609751
>April Fools
Nearly forgot. Ought to be fun.
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Looks cool.
>>135610034
Also wanted to discuss YumeCast's Yes, Your... Playing on exert is a blast.
We got quite a major update. I didn't see the vertical form in action, but it looks interesting. And we get twenty stones for shota's birthday.
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>>135611982
I don't know why everything I see of them reminds me of Psycho Pass.
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>>135612137
It's the nightmode coat.
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>>135613691
This one?
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>>135614912
Yes, thank you.
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>>135616187
Why isn't this dickable?
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>>135604681
Now I feel dumb for using expensive tachi recipes and wasting about 25000 resources. Since I didn't have any ofuda I figured that the 100 x 4 recipe wouldn't be worth it.
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>>135604681
They're celebrating 100万 (1mil) downloads of the smartphone app with a 100h limited campaign, and you can forge Juzu with all100. I wonder if they wanted to make his timer 100h too but thought it was too much.
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>>135592409
It doesn't necessarily mean it's a prequel. They could be reincarnations, considering it's only the 3 who died in Kokuchou.
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Bocchi Musume is out on DLsite and DMM.
I want to play it badly but dammit it'll have to wait until payday.
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>Doujinshi drama CD called "I'm becoming your dog"
>it isn't doM
Fuck you, Japan.
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>>135620126
Cat a best, but that MC looks a bit retarded.
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https://twitter.com/NitroplusCHiRAL/status/710755078345371648
Apparently there's something to the new game in this month's B's Log.
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>>135629830
He's a fox.

I agree with the MC looking off, I think it's her forehead and the way she stares with her big eyes.
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Code Realize is on sale for $11.99 on NA PSN

https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/code-realize-guardian-of-rebirth/cid=UP1024-PCSE00763_00-CODEREALIZE00000
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>>135632809
Oh, and Norn9 too.

https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/norn9-var-commons/cid=UP1024-PCSE00762_00-IFNORNVARCOMMONS
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>>135632809
Tempted to pick it up just because I'm too cheap to buy the Japanese version, but setting up my card for a different country is such a pain.
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>>135633062
Nice. I was waiting for it to go on sale before buying.
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>>135574630
I just have to say that I got one million points for a song and one thousand for the event. I can't thank you enough.
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>>135611461
It continues looking cool.
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>>135647691
Sugita looks as if he wants to die.
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>>135604681
>wasted all tokens and ofuda
>it's fucking nothing
I hate this shit.
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>>135648357
Don't worry, he always looks as if he wants to die.
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>>135649767
Not when he's playing bishoujo games.
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>>135604681
How do you have so balanced resources?
Some of mine have like a 300k difference.
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>>135631610
No scans?
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The wombat is the best.
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That's a pretty fabulous stance.
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>>135660038
What's the most ridiculous way a character has held a sword in otome/BL?
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>>135660038
I feel like I saw that stance too many times in these type of games.
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>>135661042
And I laugh every time.
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if you get your ass killed, at least you looked beautiful.
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>>135660656
I've seen some pretty stupid shit in Hakuouki.
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>>135660656
my favorite is when they limply hold their sword out in front of them like they're about to drop it.
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Weird sword poses are easier to believe when there's supernatural shit involved somehow.
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Looks like that Korean mobile game by Cheritz has been delayed to June.
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>>135651983
Yeah, I'm usually running out of steel while the rest is much higher. (Though that balanced out more after making heavy cavalry.)
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>>135621043
>セーラー服やリボンは前作の別キャラクターからの引き継ぎです
I thought that meant her uniform ribbon, but he actually has her hair ribbon. Cute.
And even Usagi has the same seiyuu.
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>>135627921
>54minutes of binaural audio NTR corruption
Sounds interesting despite it not having a doM guy. Anon, please tell me more about your listening experience with this.
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Bocchi Musume was good
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>>135662596
still better than the omnipresent "ow my neck hurts" pose
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgYz0piVAgQ

Shirayuki and Mahoutsukai's character songs.
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>>135703534
I get the impression it's very short. About how long would you say it took you?
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Still strong on DMM, even with the app.
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>>135711450

Well, it's a half-price game with only two full routes, so short's to be expected really. Definitely shorter than either of the Jooubachi halves though. Might be like 10-12 hrs if you're a slow reader? I found it edging on the boundary of too short for the price, but everything else was enjoyable enough that I have a hard time being too upset about it.
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>>135700660
It was pretty much vanilla, really. And the ear licking was super wet and sloppy, it gave me the creeps.
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Will we ever see another BL game in English?
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>>135714092
Yes. I hope you like machine "translators".
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>>135713713
>pretty much vanilla
Aw. Even the dialogue? The dl synopsis and track descriptions made it seem much more interesting. How was the writing? Did it deliver the story well or whatever?
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>>135714092
It sounds like NTY sold quite well, one of their top sellers of 2015 according to the MG blog, so I'm guessing it's just a matter of time before MG announces something. Maybe at one of the con panels between now and Summer.

JAST has been quiet for long enough that I wouldn't really expect anything from them. After their recent handling of Flowers (holy shit I'm so butthurt), I'm extremely wary of anything they get their hands on.

There will probably also be some fan translation attempts on N+C's new game when that comes out.
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New Puchi Reve game.
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>>135715818
>their recent handling of Flowers
What did they do?
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Already dropped this guy with some casual farming.
Too bad I need his brother, not him.
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Ho boy.
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>>135716301
Basically they released a Steam demo about a month before the full game release date. The demo translation was awful and people raised a fuss. JAST made excuses for the shit-tier quality, assured fans the demo didn't reflect the quality of the final product and released patches for the demo that still couldn't save the shitty script. Eventually they announced that the game will be delayed (to god knows when) so they can do some QC.
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>>135715818
>Maybe at one of the con panels between now and Summer.
I'm pretty sure all of MG's announcements are made at cons, with AX and I think Otakon being their biggest. Who knows, we might even get something at Anime Boston next week at the earliest.

If JAST gives us anything BL related, all my bets are on DMMd, then it'll probably be already translated so I doubt there will be another Flowers.
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>>135708607
I do it subconsciously when I talk to people too. It can't be helped
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Who will be the first one to make a VR otome?
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>>135727568
Noone. There will never be a VR otome.
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>>135727568
There are already plenty VR 乙女
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>>135727568
>tfw about the SAO teaser
Isn't creating that game a bad idea? Why not .hack? Wait, that's a bad example too.

What genre would be viable for a VR/AR otome game? How much budget do you think they would skimp from the writing department again to make the game incredibly pretty?
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>>135730120
There's no way we're getting one. We don't even get games with 3D models.

The most we're likely to see is something like Fire Emblem or Rune Factory where you can go after both genders.
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>>135730659
Anon, pls. You're treading hard on my dreams.
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>>135730887
It's because I care, friend. You were doomed for heartbreak.
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>>135714092
there are a couple of BL evns coming out this year. Of course, the catch is that they are evns.
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>>135731296
Please lie to me instead. Do you think we'll ever get a modern age of otome heaven, anon?
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>>135730659
I actually would like this more than anything else, actual gameplay is best.
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>>135730659
A Rune Factory VR sounds like a lot of fun. But I doubt we'll even get that.
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>VR otome
I'm not confident I could contain my autism.
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>>135731579
Forgive me, I can't do it. We have fewer tech savvy doujin creators, fewer companies who care about the genre enough to strive for quality and more fans who enjoy and spend money on things not specifically targeted at them(not that that's a bad thing).
Back in 2010/11 when otoge was at its peak and looked like it was only getting bigger there could've been hope, but for now everything is trending towards mobage and squeezing easy cash out of us.

Unless all the feminists loud about destroying the good stuff guys get suddenly wake up and realize true justice lies in getting us male Senran Kagura, my hopes are dim.
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>>135734240
>Unless all the feminists loud about destroying the good stuff guys get suddenly wake up and realize true justice lies in getting us male Senran Kagura, my hopes are dim.
Finally I see someone else mention this. The only reason those titty games bother me is because there's pretty much nothing on the other side of the spectrum. I'd kill for male senran kagura.
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>>135734240
>>135735359
>male Senran Kagura
"Through dick, unity."

Can't wait for that day to arrive however long it takes.
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>>135734240
Too bad they're all repulsed by sex for some reason.
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>>135734240
>Unless all the feminists loud about destroying the good stuff guys get suddenly wake up and realize true justice lies in getting us male Senran Kagura, my hopes are dim.

I believe in our lord and savior Togo Mito
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Are there any translations on the way?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCILqmEd93A

I finally understand thanks to this why I think the SB69 art is kinda furry, but think that other Sanrio animals are super cute.
It's the anime eyes.
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>>135740281
No.
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>>135740281
Ozmafia. If you mean unofficial, there are always a few in the works, but it's better not to expect anything to come of them.
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Why don't they ever criticize their own atrocities in the Sino-Japanese war?
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>>135745471

What do you mean? Japan has never done anything wrong.
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>>135745471
For the same reasons that every nation sweeps their own war crimes under the rug?
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>>135740281
Fantranslations dropped or in progress forever, kickstarters failed. There is no hope, just start learning japanese already.
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Is it true you can run out of space before filling up a vita memory card?
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>>135734240
Amen.
True equality should be reached though us getting more male eye candies instead of making men as miserable as we are.

I want more semi naked ottermide prettyboys.
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>>135494752
Is there a better VN than Hadaka Shitsuji or am I just wasting my time lurking here for recs?
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I want Compile Heart-style games with cute boys.
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>>135750446
There's a rec chart right there in the OP you quoted.
Otherwise if there's something specific you're looking for just ask. We're not anal about no asking for recs since we're dead all the time.
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>>135750446
Depends on what you see as good.
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>>135751396
>>135751462
I'm open to pretty much anything. I just want something fun to play. I wanted to try No Thank you, people used to be hype for it but then they stopped and nobody talked about it anymore. Was it bad somehow? Or is it just the kind of game you feel like discussing when you're done with it?
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>>135754378
*don't feel like discussing
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>>135754378
So BL and English only?
Just give up.
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>>135754378

We discussed it pretty hard when it came out. NTY's worth trying for sure though
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>>135755014
O-Ok.

>>135755165
Thank you. Well then No thank you it is.
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>>135750446
I'm liking Taisho Mebiusline so far, even loving the sadist who's type I usually hate.
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>>135756526
i think they can only english
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>>135750446
Lamento is good if you're okay with lots of text and a deus ex machina ending.
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>>135756835
Haha to them then.
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>>135757258
You mean they finished translating the entire thing? I had no idea. Thanks for the tip.
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>>135757258
I'll throw in another vote for Lamento cause so far it's definitely my favourite BL game(Saying this from the perspective of an EOP. Yeah yeah, I know. I'm working on it but anything more than Kana is going to take time). I know that objectively speaking NTY is probably better, and I do prefer Haru as a protagonist, but the setting and music in Lamento is exactly the type of stuff I'm really into, so that pushed me over the edge.
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I like how Ichuu somewhat makes their idol premise more interesting by giving these groups different genre styles. While generally speaking I enjoy Lancelot and Tenjyou Tenge's music the most, I find RE:BERSERK's chuuni qualities endearing. (Based on songs alone so far. I haven't gotten to them in the story mode yet.)
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>>135761820
>I haven't gotten to them in the story mode yet
It's an almost-wizard chuuni and his chuuni shota harem(?). Pretty great if you ask me.
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>>135761820
looks VK.
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>>135737614
Wouldn't you when your R18 options tend to have rape and submission shoved in?
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>>135764082
That doesn't effect my view on sex, no, because I'm not retarded.
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>>135768337
Is he best boy? He seems like best boy.
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>>135769023
He is, and even nips agree with this. He won the poll for both games.
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>>135742525
Why does it feel like being an angry OL is an largely untapped setting for games?
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>>135781148
Because these games are for wish fulfilment, not for emulating the hell you have to go through every day anyway.
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>Route is about guy's ex girlfriend/dead wife
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>>135788061
example?
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>>135734240
Don't worry, someone's gonna genderbend this sooner or later
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>>135801349
Debut's Ren route kind of, BroCon's Iori, Ozmafia's Robin Hood
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>>135804416
>Debut Ren
Jesus christ, don't remind me.


BroCon also has Ukyo if I'm not mistaken, no?
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>>135734240
All I ever want is to see more male nipples and asses, but I know I'll never get it.
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/blog/, what's that guy in an otome game that is a great friend but not as good as a romantic interest?
pic related
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>drop two hundred stones for sweet reopened Halloween gacha, but no Halloween get

Brutal, Yumecast.
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orcs
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>>135807294
May the Gacha gods have mercy on you next time, anon.
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>>135806059
Most sluts fall in that category.
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>>135735784
>"Through dick, unity."
This will be the phrase of the movement.
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>>135807294
Since I'd stockpiled 300 gems I figured I could try as well. As for the result, well, I guess I should bow down to my new shota overlord.
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>>135805290
Same here. I guess all we can do is hope.
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>>135821091
This one for sure.
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For a shitty mobege, SCM has some nice looking art.

Best God is best.
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>>135821091
In my opinion and funny enough, was also voiced by Suwabe, Van Helsing is a better friend than lover.
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>>135806059
Never really cared for any of the princes romantically except Tokiya. They all work better as one big happy harem.
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>>135824232
Congrats. I wish they'd bring back the Alice gacha.
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Spoilers for all of TaiAli. There are a few things I don't get.

So this route was implying his mother started whoring herself for money for them right?

And was her cause of death ever mentioned? The way his memories cut off made me think one of the other personalities killed her before he found her, but that never came up again. Neither Akazukin or Alister had memories of it and Mahoutsukai never mentioned it.
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Does anyone else stop for a second and have a good laugh while playing these games?
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>>135853397
Sadly no.
The only thing that gets me giggling are cliched lines and ridiculously great voice acting.
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>>135853397
I'm not an ironic hip nerd, so no
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>>135853397
when there's wet SFX during sex or kissing.
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>>135853397
If it's cheesy enough (e.g., Storm Lover), sure.
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>>135853397
Only with lewd cds. Never with VNs since I avoid the ones that are bad enough to give me that reaction.
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>>135853397
Only Tokimemo and how it feels like a great 80s movie.
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>>135840693
Tokiya is the only prince I care romantically too. The rest has it's moments but most of their games have boring or simply uninteresting routes. STARISH works better as big gay family, and not in the anime but in the main games.
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>>135853397
Honestly I laughed quite a bit playing Hadaka Shitsuji.
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>>135853397

All the time
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Chapter 13 of the Touken Ranbu GFC anthology done.
https://mega.nz/#!eV9GXRRI!JEZRP-ho9dodHVpjnQq8htKZWzU-rc8gfkU4H-xYpZA
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>>135869804
Thanks as always.
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>>135869804
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>>135853397
Yes. I think most otome are basically comic exercises in the boke-tsukkomi routine. A guy says something and you respond in your head with a hilarious, bitchy line. So much fun.
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>>135782392
>living in a developed nation
>employed
>hell

There's some people wearing garbage bags getting bombed all day who'd like a word.
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I hope the idolized versions of them don't have that ugly bg pattern.
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>>135882814
You chose a wrong place to preach.
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>>135882814
I didn't know my mom was on /blog.
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>>135884618
Watch out. She knows all your searches (and that folder with +18 fanart too).
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>>135884929
I hope she likes all the otouto incest porn in there.
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>>135882786
Living the dream
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I just finished Shiki's route in Togainu and I can finally understand all the hate. God, that was so infuriating.
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>>135896806
I don't get the joke.
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Japanese sentences feels like a box in a box in a box, you have to opens before getting to the meaning. They pretty hard to follow.
That said, I feel like I've made huge progress in my reading Japanese. Problem is that the game clock zero is asking me to answer question and I'm unable of doing it. there is no detailed walkthrough, I could find.
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>>135899416
try googleing the name of the game and 攻略?
Maybe you should try an easier game first.
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>10
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Bocchi x Musume feels really short for a game that has 2.7 GB size.
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>>135869804
Thanks doc
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oyasumi
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>>135922792
The full complete CG is disappointing compared to the CG for the 3P route.
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>10
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Dead.
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>>135902640
Thank you but even with that, I can't get anything non confusing.
Have someone here played the game ?

damn. It really looks like I'll have to give up on this one.
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>>135938889
Just brush up on your grammar and get back to it later.
Play something simple for kids for practice even if it isn't necessarily otome.
You don't want to ruin a good story by not being able to understand half of it and messing up your experience.

The first games I ever played in japanese were Keroro RPG and a few Shugo Chara games for DS that had furigana, pretty easy. It gets you in the groove of reading in a different language.
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>>135938889
>http://momokan.chu.jp/momokan/clockzero-gassignment.html
If you are talking about the quizzes/homework this should do.
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>>135940265
Thank you. But it seems they have changed the quizz in the vita version.
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>>135940767
Oh right, I forgot it was ported. I guess you will have to come back to it later after all.
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>>135941098
it saddens me.
I was just expecting a regular game with just having to choose between 2answer from time to time and instead of that, it's a clusterfuck with gazillion ends. Still ... a very interesting clusterfuck.
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>>135941578
Shoul've looked at the official site, since they have those games listed there.
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AnimeJapan soon.
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>>135887364
>not liking Nazi Akira
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>>135940767
This site has the Vita version walkthrough. http://xxchoroxx.blog.fc2.com/
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>>135947967
The chances for sword anime are great, right?
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>>135955120
Can't wait for the CGI.
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>>135955196
For what would they use CGI? It's not like swords have complicated battle parts, like KanColle girls do so it doesn't seem like it'd be necessary.
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>>135952892
Thank you
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https://youtu.be/QZ1CvVn07dw

This AR idol has a nice voice.
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>>135961160
Sounds like KENN.
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>NTR'd
I didn't ask for this
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>>135963238
Which game?
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>>135612192
>Linkin Park lyrics for the headline
>Senpai tries to force her down on the bed but suffers from a sudden fit of germaphobia

Cracked up
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>there will never be a game where you can date the yowapedals and sperg out about bikes together
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>>135974862
Well, there's this
http://www.dlsite.com/eng/work/=/product_id/RE142127.html
No idea if it's any good, tho. Never played it.
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>>135974862
>>135976669
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWnW7CKiuQM
And apparently the same group also made two Sohoku games.
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>>135974862
Princess Crown made three YowaPeda doujin games.
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This retard is annoying.
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>10
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>Unbalancsed
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So did anyone actually manage to get a Juzu without an ofuda?
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>>135999293
Pretty sure there have been reports of him coming with ALL100 no ofuda.
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>>135999293
>>136001508
>tfw you used over 300 smithing tokens and got nothing but shotas
I should just drop the damned game for good.
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>>135999293
Yes. All 100 worked for me. Took me about 150 tries though.
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>>136001508
I can confirm that as well. Even got lucky enough to get him within the first few tries.
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Good Night.
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Why do the boys in these games all have such wide fucking mouths?
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>>136021120
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>>136021120
Which ones?
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>>135882786
Holy shit. RNG-sama got down on one knee and opened his arm for a hug.
>>136022184
I love combined scene cards, but I've no discs to spare. My last two hours in the event were rather messy. I got around forty seven hundred and dropped back out of five k in a half hour. I think I managed to get back in.
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Mebiusline is one hell of a ride and I think I may be in love with a rapist.
Will be ordering the Vita version.
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>>136021120

You know why, anon.
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>>135824232
I couldn't resist and rolled again. I also got UR Halloween shota. Glad to add another one to my team.
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>>136042482
Is this the cover? If so, disappointing. I would have loved to have had the CD covers seen in game.
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>>135999293
I did. It took me a while, though. And a lot of worrying.
>>136041875
Congrats, anon.
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>>136042606
Yeah, it is. They might have those for the booklet instead.
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>10
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>>136047590
I guess it would have been too much considering the unique image per song. I just liked the idea of 2D made physical.
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>>136041875
Nice job. Ryuu and Gaku's cards were really nice, I'm hoping group D will bring one of them but the only Trigger that likes coming home for me is Tenn.
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Ded
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>>136042482
They're going a big heavy on the bloom, but otherwise the colours are pretty nice.
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>>136039669

Senge was great.
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>>136056598
Astrum a best.
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Is there any game in Japanese on Vita that aren't too hard for a beginner ?
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>>136066287
Define beginner.

If you mean can barely piece together sentences beginner, forget it.
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>>136066287
Many of them are easy.
If there's one that interests you, ask us.
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>>136065020
I agree and it's an accomplishment to make a type I usually hate my favorite.
Pic related made me cry.
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>>136066287
What about Arcana Famiglia ?

I always wanted to romance Hatkun after watching the meh anime adaptation.
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>>136056598
Was slightly interested in this, but that PV didn't really sell me on the game at all. Guess I'll pass.
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>>136069760
You should rather wait for reviews to judge the quality than judge it from a PV.
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>>136066287
Just pick something with a modern day school setting.
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>>136069652
Haven't played it myself, but I'd guess that it's not super easy because of the fortune telling stuff or what that was.
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>>136072182
Hakuoki sweet school for example ?
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>>136074008
I'm sure that one is easy, but it shouldn't be hard finding better games that are easy.

>>136072182
I don't think that's necessary. Stuff like Norn9 is pretty easy as well, except maybe the info dump at the end.
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>>136074328
What is so bad about hakuoki sweet school ?

You can even romance your teacher. (Even if Hijikata was the more boring route in the original Hakuoki.)
Chizuru isn't very interesting in the original game, but she isn't abhorrent either.
And it looks nice.

I guess the plot is lacking. As expected from a HS setting.

To begin with, there isn't much highschool settings on vita from what I've gotten from the visual novel database.
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>>136075183
>make a game with Japanese warriors and vampires set in the past
>It's super popular
>Hey, why don't we now take the character and put them into a generic school setting

Literally the worst selling out possible.
It's probably still a decent game.
Other than that, Bad Apple Wars is decent and set in school. Storm Lover as well. Also Shinobi, Koi Utsutsu if you count ninja school, and Senjou no Waltz for fantasy setting. DiaLovers. RootRexx if you want some idols. BroCon, but I guess only partially.
There are also some more comedic games, like Re:ViceD, partially as well. Trigger Kiss. Kaeru Batake.
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>>136075183
It doesn't even look that nice since the artist is not the original but a bad copycat.
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>>136069652
Shounen fightan terms aside Arcana Famiglia isn't too hard, since everyone mostly talks in modern Japanese with random Italian thrown in.
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>>136073118
Arcana Famiglia isn't too difficult, but not something I would recommend to a total beginner.

I remember Bad Apple Wars being especially easy to read.
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>>136077367
Most of Storm Lover is easy to read, but all the puns and references will fly right over your head if you don't know the language well enough. And they're the best part.
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>>136077367
Is Kaeru Batake easy? I find it a bit hard for a school VN.
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>>136066287
Prince of Stride is easy enough, I think?
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>>136086047
I thought it was pretty easy except a bit of the terminology.
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>>136039669
i tried getting into it but it glorifying the greater east asia co-prosperity sphere was giving me the creeps so i never went back. maybe there was something else to it or self-awareness eventually but it still made me uncomfortable from what i got through.
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>>136100265
>glorifying
If it makes you feel better, the character who supports it is portrayed as a sociopathic murdering rapist and that topic is the reality of that era. Depending on how far you got you may or may not have seen this. There's another character who's strongly against it and portrayed as a very good, adjusted person.
What I would have liked to have seen myself though was less blame shifting and hand waving and more acknowledgement of the hypocrisy and how the Japanese Empire's politics were the exact same shit as the west's, but again it's how it was back then and I like to think it was intentional reflection of past reality rather than a reflection of the writers' beliefs, especially with the existence of the resistance.
That said, avoid Taishou era stories in general if that topic makes you uncomfortable. It's the reality of that period where worldwide ultranationalism/militarism was at its peak with not one innocent inhabited continent, there's no avoiding it.
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>>136104157
Should've breaked. Fuck posting from tablet.
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>>136100265
There's people who are still butthurt over that?
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>>136105490
A lot of people knew elderly relatives who lived through Japan's BS, understandably it's more personal in that case.
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>10
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>>135855353
Over dramatic voice acting during sex is worse.
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>>136112465
Worst boy, right after spaghetti.
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>>136112465
Best boy, right after spaghetti.
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>>136113072
>Best boy, with spaghetti right behind him
FTFY. That was a silly mistake you made there.
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>>136113851
>that 照れ and 笑顔
Fucking adorable.
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>>136112465
A smile that makes me want to spend more money.
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>>136100265

I didn't see it that way. Try giving it a chance and even go for the extremist's route.

>>136104157

Not to mention that depending on which ending, he relaxes his extremism to varying extents (unless the protagonist enables him, and in that case the protagonist becomes a villain).

His unwavering support for Japanese imperialism comes from being born into having no other purpose than protecting his country, and once he finds another reason for living (the hero), his priorities waver. iirc In one ending the hero influences him to such a degree that he goes and burns down the imperial palace. This is why it's bad to jump to conclusions.
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Up
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Norn9
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What's the worst case of voice acting you've come across?
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>>136121694
Kaji uke in that Arabian(?) R18 BL.
He was literally only screaming through the sex scenes.
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>>136121694
Oyayubihime was bad all around, especially the MC and main guy.
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>>136121694
Miura Hiroaki in Storm Lover. At some point I just turned off his voice because it was driving me nuts.
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Up
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Updated the upcoming eroCD pastebin
http://pastebin.com/hErqgbiF

Velvet voice announced a new series about forbidden love, one about step-siblings.
http://velvet-voice.com/blog/karepilo/3433
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>>136129890
Thanks once more. If you're planning to keep updating it do you want us to stick it in the OP?
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>>136129890
>forbidden love
>step-siblings
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>>136132356
sure, I finally figured out a site that makes RSS feeds for sites that don't have them, so I'm keeping up with any new series from the established companies.

>>136133603
? implying good or bad?
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>>136135369
>? implying good or bad?
I think anon is saying that there is nothing forbidden about step-siblings.
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>>136135369
>? implying good or bad?
It's just such a common tactic for writers who want to do "forbidden love" without anything actually being forbidden. Even teacher-student is more forbidden.
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>>136135662
>>136136119
Just because it's legally allowed doesn't mean it's not forbidden. The parents wouldn't be very thrilled about their kids getting it on so in a way it is forbidden. Romeo and Juliet also had that whole forbidden romance going on and they weren't even siblings.
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>>136136119
But no matter what you'll always be siblings, especially when they bother with detailed family registers in Japan. But if you date a teacher eventually you'll graduate and it's not so forbidden anymore, depending on age difference I guess.
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otome game with neckbeards
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>>136141396
Everyday on 4chan.
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>10
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>>136121694
Pretty much every generic NPC ever.
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What do you want to play this year?
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>>136153426
My backlog of Koei games. I'm ashamed I still haven't read a single one. Also Ken ga Kimi.

From new releases; Bocchi Musume, Kyoukai no Shirayuki, Psychedelica 2 and Tsumikui. Everything else I want to get this year are ports of stuff I've already read.
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That feel when you're absorbed in reading something in Japanese but super tired and it all starts to become gibberish so you're forced to put it down.
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>>136113072
Is spaghetti his nickname because he drops it everywhere or because he invites MC-chan to eat spaghetti?
or both?

Subaru is cute but I have like 3 SR with him and every music I play on expert I can only hear him spamming.
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>>136039669
Why is rape such a popular trope in yaoi ?

Why isn't it popular in otome ?
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>>136173460
Less R18 titles.
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>>136173460

It is popular in otome, are you stupid?
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>Spent all gems and tickets on Idolish7 trying to get any of White Days cards
>Only got 1 SSR and it isn't even the White Day one
Shouldn't have give in on temptation.
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>>136173698
not the ones I've read...
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>>136174408
Seeing twitter friends getting full teams of white day/valentines gave me the courage to draw after the last group went up. I pulled Gaku 3 times over 4 ticket draws and the 50 stone one, I wanted him but not 3 of him. Idolish has the weirdest fucking luck.
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>>136174487

What are you reading? Even UtaPri has the guys threatening to force themselves Haruka at points
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http://www.utapri.com/sp/clt/
Brand new line of UtaPri shirts.
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>>136176359
The first ones were better.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ypr7O9TfdE
Pretty good.
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>>136178689
Just Slut's looks like a mess, otherwise I prefer the new ones. I'll definitely buy most of them.
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>>136182462
I want to have as much money as you have.
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>>136182636
Get a job that lets you travel a lot on company expenses.
You'll barely be at home to enjoy the shit you buy from the money you save, though.
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>>136175949
I gotta refresh my memory but wasn't Hime the only one? there's Reiji too but it was very different from Hime's where he forced himself at her saying shit like "you like stuff like this, just like with Ren yada"
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So apparently WoF R has sound quality issues. Anyone from /blog/ playing it yet?
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>>136186086
Didn't buy it, but I saw someone on Amazon complaining that the recordings are different between the new and the old lines(different sound volume, a bit different acting).
You mean that?
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>>136174408
>>136174898
>Save up stones for the special 50 option to draw 11 cards
>Not a single white day card
Yeah, not even gonna bother with the scouting tickets.
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>>135720429
How do they handle removing these things in PSP/Vita versions?
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>>136181090
>Toyonaga and Hanae duet.
Such beauty.
Hanae saying お嬢様 just makes me think of that ero cd.
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>>136174487
Are you an EOP?
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>>136189372
yes. But I'll start reading Japanese games soon.

Everything I played so far has been consensual and vanilla as fuck.
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>>136193954
Even the all-ages English translated ones I've played had dudes trying to force themselves on the heroine.
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>>136194172
Only one I can think of with a rapeisty behaviour is Sakuya. But even he didn't do anything eventually.
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Different anon here, but I almost never see dudes trying to force themselves on the MC because I only play the routes of characters I like.
Which is probably why I'm always a bit confused when someone complains about this being too common.
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>>136195842
I'm confused when people complain about it at all.
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>>136195559
>didn't do anything
Because the game isn't R18.
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>>136173460
Not really any more so than otoge, unless all you've read are Nitro+chiral's stuff that tend to go in a horror direction, and there's your explanation.
And in the particular case you quoted, the character is a literal nutcase.
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>>136196361
>Nitro+chiral's stuff
Rape isn't even the edgiest thing is them.
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So I would like to start reading BL visual novels.
Where should I start?
I took a look at the pastebin but there aren't many that seem like something I'd like, I just want a pure love story and something that doesn't look like shit and isn't super edgy and contrived or Fujoshi bait in general.
Things like NO, THANK YOU!!! look pretty good to me, but I don't know where to find stuff in a similar vein.

If anyone has some recommendations I would be more than happy to look at them.
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>>136198176
Which is why I've never understood complaints about them.
>reads horror
>complains about it having unsettling shit
That's some tumblr level retardation.
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>>136198346

If you can't read Japanese there isn't much that fits your requirements (although even if you can your options are pretty limited). Not really sure how you expect to find BL that isn't "fujoshi bait" considering that's basically the definition of BL.

NTY gets pretty dark at points, so if you just want fluffy romance it probably isn't going to be what you want. N+C stuff is edgy and dark. Hadaka is humorous but not the kind of humor that works for everyone (you might find it very unpalatable if it's not your kind of thing). Silver Chaos is pretty dumb but largely inoffensive, that might be your best bet if you want stupid fluff.
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>>136198346
Is this bait?
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>>136181090
Gureito da ze.
I hate that only god knows when we'll get this (and other event songs) full.
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>>136198660
No it's not, I genuinely just want to avoid edgy bullshit story and get something engaging and sweet while not being overbearingly fujoshit, if that makes sense.
Also refer to my response below this one for a more clear definition of what I want. I'm bad at wording things today.

>>136198623
I have chosen my words poorly. I just want to avoid the edgy bullshit, I looked at dramatical murder and all the characters are edgy as fuck and it's a massive turn off for me.

I just want normal guys doing normal guy stuff, with an engaging plot that isn't just a backdrop for porn with genuine romance with fleshed out characters.
That should put it a bit more succinctly.

Also I was going to mention, but I have an incredibly limited handle on japanese. I know barely 100 kanji and very little of the grammar so at this stage reading in japanese is impossible for me.
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>>136199258
>while not being overbearingly fujoshit
Give up because that's exactly what BL is. And if you're easily triggered, give up on Japanese shit in general and stick to tumblr indie games.
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>>136199258

Maybe give NTY a shot then, that's probably the closest to what you're looking for of what's translated.
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>>136198346
>I want to read BL
>but no fujo
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>>136199485
They're either genuinely retarded or trolling.
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>>136199423
>>136199485
I think they meant something that is not chock full of typical yaoi cliches, considering that they mentioned wanting something similar to NTY.
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What's with the No Thank You shilling lately despite it not even being that good?
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>>136200041

What shilling?
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>>136200041
It got a translation and tumblr found out.
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>>136199485
>>136199607
>>136199423
I'm just looking for something for gay guys not girls, jesus christ. I like romance visual novels, and I like boys. I don't like the girlified, faggot versions of boys so common in these kind of visual novels, maybe I'm mislabeling what I'm looking for if BL is exclusively fujoshi garbage and if I'm in the wrong thread just let me know, but I simply don't know of any other place to take this.

>>136199741
This guy understands what I'm saying.
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>>136200041
What, you want us to recommend Enzai instead?
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>>136200556
>>>/tumblr/
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>>136200261

What are you on about? Tumblr doesn't even like it very much. There are a handful of translated BL games, what else do you expect people to mention? Absolute Obedience? The one part of Sukisho that's out?
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>>136200624
ebin
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>>136200556
>something for gay guys not girls
It's called bara, and I don't think there's a lot of it to begin with, less alone translated.
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>>136200556
You're limiting yourself by being easily triggered by "edgy" shit.
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>>136201048

You can dislike edgy shit without being "triggered" by it, you know.
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>>136201048
I'm more puzzled at why they seem to think everything that isn't day to day activities is edgy.
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>>136200556
>I don't like the girlified, faggot versions of boys
>not enjoying all kinds of boys
What a fucking faggot.
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>>136201048
>triggered
I never said the edgy shit bothered me, I don't find it attractive however.

Besides that I don't see how that's a limiting factor at all if what >>136200817 said is true.

>>136200817
I was debating whether or not to call it bara in my posts, but it's less about the muscly guys as it is just not being super faggy. I want normal guys, muscular or not.

>>136201351
Nice meme arrows friend :^)
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>>136201272
pretty common attitude with westerners trying to get into these things for some reason and seems to stem from some form of self-importance.
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>>136201578
>not liking something
>must be because you're some self-important westerner

Tumblr pls
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Can anyone please explain me what the difference between gay, normal guys and faggots in BL games is supposed to be?
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>>136201727
That's quite the opposite of tumblr's hand-holding blacklists and revulsion to "edgy" shit.
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>>136201924

You didn't read what >>136201727 was objecting to, did you?
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>>136201887
I think they mean don't like twinks.
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>>136202007
Did you?
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>>136202112
As I said before, it's not so much about body type as it is the way they act and approach things but that basically describes it.
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>>136201272
I'm certain that they're literally retarded at this point.
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>>136202339
Most post mid-2000s don't really act much like girls since that's more of an older trend, however you're limiting yourself by other factors and don't seem very open minded, so.
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>>136202370

In all seriousness how are most BL games not "edgy" shit? Especially the ones that've been translated.
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>>136202569
In all seriousness how is anything that isn't day-to-day activities edgy?
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There are literally no realistic portrayals of gay relationships in BLVNs. Better to stick to manga.
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What's with this caring about realism in BL when otome games and straight romance in general aren't realistic portrayals of straight relationships yet no one cares?
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>>136202768

It's not, but look at most of the translated BL games, we have, what? Enzai, Absolute Obedience, Silver Chaos, the N+C titles, Hadaka, Sukisho, and NTY. Aside from Silver Chaos (which is decidedly not "day-to-day activities") all of those are pretty fucking edgy.
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>>136203023

Have you ever considered that there are different people in this thread with different tastes. Weird concept I know.
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>>136203023
no fun allowed in the social justice generation.
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>>136202552
>you dislike a thing I like
>you must be close minded
K

I didn't say act like girls, I said act like a faggot. Which they do, 100%. They act like flaming faggots, and I hate it.
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>>136203023
Because no one's asking for recommendations for realistic otome, you insecure hambeast. And otome fares way better, having a bigger audience.
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>>136203276
>girlified
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>>136203217
>>136203306
Nah, this seems to be a common complaint in general, that BL isn't "realistic", and it only happens with BL.
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>>136203501

That's because fujoshi fetishize the illusion of authenticity in the west (not actual authenticity, mind you, just the illusion of it––can you imagine how much of a tantrum tumblr would throw if shit was mentioned in a sex scene?).
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>>136203501
wrong crowd looking into it because it features gay relationships.
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>>136203387
>implying girlified means "acts like a girl" and not "acts more girly than a man should" AKA acting like a faggot.
Fucking christ are you autistic or something?
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>>136203276
they probably mean you're not open to anything outside of a very specific concept, which is true and not something to take the wrong way.
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>>136204060
Are you? There's barely a difference.
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>>136204060
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>>136203501
That's what happens when you don't have a lot of BL to choose from and most of them are shit.
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>>136204268
There is a difference of degrees actually.
Acting like a faggot is distinctly different from acting like a girl. Someone can be girlified to any degree, whether that's just slightly or a lot as in the case of the people I'm talking about, however they're still a long way off from acting exactly like a girl.
So while they're acting girlier than a man should, they aren't out and out emulating the mannerisms of a woman.
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>>136204601
And you're calling other people autistic.
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>>136204661
Are you saying I'm wrong? Because it sounds like you're not trying to deny my argument.
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>>136204574
Most otome games are shit yet I don't see the same want for "realism". Also I'm not sure how realism is connected to quality.
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>>136204781
reminds me of the attitude of dismissing games with big tits and bikini armor for not being realistic.
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>>136195559
What game?
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>>136204781
People complain all the time. Just because otome has more fans doesn't mean that they are all satisfied with what they have.

And yes, if an otome VN is not aiming to be a shallow porn or moege and is trying to attempt a reasonably good story then believable romantic progression is important.
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>>136206745
I have never seen complaints about "realism" over otome games. And you're twisting the issue into "believable romantic progression" when it was about "normal guys doing normal guy stuff".
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>>136207013
There's tons of SoL otome games, so of course nobody's going to complain about the lack of them.
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what kind of faggot even reads VNs to date normalfags?
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>>136207345
They also happen to be some of the worst.
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>>136207416
Lonely people who don't want to fuck a psycho
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>>136207559
TokiMemo and comfy games are shit now?
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>>136207013
"Believable romantic progression" is typically what people mean by "realistic portrayal of relationships"
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>>136207574
Not wanting disgusting regular men you can find in real life doesn't equate to psychos.
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>>136207416
what kind of faggot even reads VNs?
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>>136207817
Nobody was complaining about realistic portrayal of relationships, they were complaining about lack of "normal guys doing normal guy stuff" aka slice of life shit, and all of that genre is idealized.
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>>136207949
what kind of faggot even reads?
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>>136207874
>normal 3D = normal 2D

Did the Vita general link this thread again? Fuck off.
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Why do women and fags get so upset about dark themes?
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>>136208643
They clearly don't care in Japan, so probably a side effect of being fed excessive political correctness their entire life in the west's case that they can't even separate fiction and reality anymore.
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>>136209037
>they clearly don't care
>they being shut-in fujoshi whom these games are marketed towards
Yep, of course a shut in fat disgusting woman is clearly a representation of the entire population of Japan and one anonymous person on the internet who you assume is western is definitely an accurate portrayal of the population of the west as a whole.

Good logic there friendo.
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>>136209478
The fat disgusting women equivalents in the west do get excessively bothered by this shit though.
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>>136209759
That still doesn't make your comparison accurate or true.

Generally, people who are sane in the head dislike these kind of themes outside of their typical homes (Horror, Suspense, Thrillers, and Mystery novels/movies/games/etc.) That holds true for just about everywhere.
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>>136209478
having actually been to comiket, most nip fujoshi are extremely average looking. there's exceptions, but it's nowhere near western convention level disgusting.

there's jokes about needing to be careful because they're good at hiding their power level in public.
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>>136210047
And most of these themes are confined to VNs under those genres, so I'm not seeing the issue. Do women not look into what they're picking up first just to complain later?
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>horror, suspense, thrillers, and mystery can't be good because they're not realistic
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Well I guess that's one way to keep the thread alive
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>>136210678
BLfags should be happy to have active discussion about their media but they just go off about tumblr tumblr women tumblr.
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>>136210216
Your initial argument was that people in Japan don't mind dark themes in their BL visual novels, which I disagreed with and made a counter point that normal people don't like dark themes outside of the usual places for dark themes, of which romance is not.
Just because we have classified something as "horror/romance" doesn't mean that's the classification people will associate with it when purchasing such an item. And as I said before these games aren't even marketed at the average woman, these are targeted at a small portion of the women in japan who are shut-ins without any real social/romantic experience and therefore are not a representation of the general populous of japan.
Therefore your initial assertion, that Japan in general doesn't mind dark themes in their BLVNs, is false or at the very least unknown as we don't know how the general population feels about such things.

>>136210571
I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, I never said that, and I never said anything about realism.
Stop shitposting.
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>>136211265
Visual novels aren't marketed to normal people so what normal people like is irrelevant.
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>>136210571
>I don't like horror, suspense, thrillers or mysteries
>omg ur so closed minded!
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>>136211265
But anon, why are all the most popular BLVNs pretty dark?
Even super popular shit like LuckyDog is dark.
The only BL stuff I can think of that's not dark is school stuff.
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>>136211265
>Just because we have classified something as "horror/romance" doesn't mean that's the classification people will associate with it when purchasing such an item.
They can't look at marketing? And westerners have no excuse because they're not picking up this shit in-store unless they actually live in Japan. They're either pirating or buying online, and you'd think they'd look at what the wonderful internet has to offer for information beforehand given that they're sitting there using it.
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>>136211742
>why are all the most popular BLVNs pretty dark?
They're typically the ones with a budget, see N+C. And some are actually good with well-written characters if you're into horror, thrillers, or mysteries.
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>>136211778
common sense isn't common
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>>136211487
But your assertion was that Japan as a whole is more receptive to dark themes in BLVNs than the west as a whole.
But even if we break it down into Visual Novel readers as a whole group for both japan and the west, the portion of them who like BL is very small even relative to that so the point still stands that even in the best case scenario, people who like dark themes in BLVNs still aren't an accurate representation of the population of VN readers. And therefore cannot be used to say that one side likes dark themes more than another.
>>136211742
I'm not arguing the case that BL readers don't like dark themes, but the general population of both places (and now even the population of VN readers of both places) don't enjoy dark themes mixed with romance and that BL fans are the odd ones out.
>>136211778
I agree with you there, however it's not uncommon to hear something about a game and then pick it up basically blind, I think even you can agree with that. People should research what they're getting themselves into more, but they don't expressly have to do that to be able to complain.
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Dark themes and violence are pretty common in otome games as well. Even the vanilla as fuck Hakuoki has brow raising moments if you're not into that.
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>>136212618

I think people aren't keeping in mind that most popular, translated otome games aren't R18, while most BL games are.

I think it's obvious that R18 is going to be more explicit but hey.
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This got me wondering, since I don't mind dark themes or horror or whatever you nerds are on about, what are some good ones? I don't give a single shit if it's otome or BL.

I've looked into Dramatical Murder but the character designs look like the designer was on an acid so it was off-putting. How's the writing?
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>>136214102

That's basically everything if you can only read English. Be more specific.
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>>136211265
>don't like dark themes outside of the usual places for dark themes, of which romance is not.
You ever heard of the genre Gothic Romance?
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>>136214550

That's the other romance.
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>>136210678
>>136211047
Every time I come back here and see a spike of activity I wonder what happened, only to realise it's just people arguing again.

Thanks for the Silver chaos mention, though. Somehow I missed that.
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>>136214719
They still feature prominent love stories. Naive young girl falling in love with mysterious man etc.
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who plays these games, girls or gay dudes?
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>>136214102

Shingakkou
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>>136186086
It's currently shipping to me so once I receive it, I can check it out if anybody still cares.

>>136186361
They had similar problems with Clock Zero's port. That's one of the cons with ports of older titles and adding new lines along with voicing the MC's full name.
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>>136215475
>They had similar problems with Clock Zero's port.
Fuck, hopefully it won't be too jarring.
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>>136215475
Definitely interested, will be waiting for your report.
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So how many of you got suckered into ordering Dance with Devils?
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>almost 200 new posts in a short period
>wonder what happened
Oh.

>>136187476
I'll be finding out for that particular title in due time.
It'll be the first adult game I've liked enough to buy the portable port for and first BL game I've sought merch for.

I'm still stunned that the sadist became my favorite, I really like the attention to his psychological state that I've always wished these games would put effort into when writing these types.
I don't know how to explain but I guess it gives him a sort of relateable humanity instead of being a gimmick, and I like how the MC knows he's a fuck up, grows fearless of him, and you've got this kind of therapist thing going on while they learn to mutually respect each other.
I am really enjoying this game all around.
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>>136218570
I was a little interested, but not enough to order. Interested to hear how it turned out.
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>>136218570
I'm really interested, but managed to hold myself back until the reviews start rolling in. Had too many purchases I regretted lately.
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>>136214102
>How's the writing?
Fucking awful. The cast is like a poor man's Lamento with all the cliches and little of the charm, and the plot is an incredible mess.
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>>136219379
>>136219454

I guess I'll have to let you guys know how it is
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>>136218570
Not interested at all since I don't like most of the characters, the story seems cliched from the anime and the art is fucking ugly for a VN.
Though I'll get it if the story/writing is good.
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>>136219627
Looking forward to it.
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>>136219627
Please do, especially /fit/ and Dog routes.
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>>136219961

I'm mostly just interested in Mage, might do the rest if I get bored
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>>136219139
is it true you can threesome twins in that game?
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>>136220275
In the fan disc, apparently.
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>>136219139

I liked the yin/yang concept in Senge's route.

And yeah I forgot it was even a porn game 99% of the time. It's like the writers enjoyed making it.
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Bocchi Musume is pretty hilarious, way better than expected
At first I thought the heroine's voice sounded way too old, but she nails the disgusting screams perfectly
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>>136223692

Yeah she's great. I feel like the story gets a little slow in latter half (less humor, more predictable romance), but the characters are still pretty solid all around.
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>>136155486
Me with Shinigami to Shoujo
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>>136223692
dat art
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>>136155486

I have the opposite problem. It all starts off feeling like painful gibberish to decode but once I get absorbed in it it's smooth saling
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>>136220258
If you're bored enough, maybe you can do the brother too? I just want to see what kind of Rejet brother he turns out to be in the end.
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>>136227006

I don't know if I can stand Lindon't. He was insufferable enough in the anime.
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>>136227006
They have different kind of brothers? I can only think of closet yandere Rejet brothers.
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>>136230186
I know he was overprotective in the anime, so I'm curious if he's going to turn out to be a yandere in the game.
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>>136230940

He wasn't yandere in the anime?
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>>136231003
Now that I think about it, he did attack the heroine when he was insane, locked her inside the house, and stalked her most of the time.

I guess he is yandere in the end. Probably didn't notice it after all those cheesy singing.
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>>136215195
Who makes these posts, faggots or retards?
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>>136219562
I like how you spend 20h playing so the true ending is that you can fuck the dog.
Nitro+Chiral are geniuses at work.
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>catchy Rejet song
>random talking and SFX in the middle of it
Why is this allowed.
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How many of you guys are seiyuufags?
Or at least partially buy some games because of the VAs?
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>>136237932
If I find out a certain VA is voicing a character in a certain game, I'll take a look at it, but if it doesn't interest me then I won't bother.
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>>136236524
>Listening to Bad Medicine's OP
>Interlude with the two guys laughing evilly, making kissing sounds and forcing your mouth open while going "a~~~n"

Always throws me off
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>>136237932
I am, but I've never bought a VN because of one. Most of my favorites get enough roles that I'll come across them eventually in a game I'm interested in regardless of the cast.
But if Murase ever gets a route in an otoge I'll be buying that without hesitation regardless of how shit it looks.
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>>136237932
I bought a gunpla and tried to watch a season's worth of a terrible show because my rare seiyuu was in it. I couldn't keep going though. I don't know if he's been in games or not now that I think about it.
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>>136237932
100%, the voices are like one of the most important things.
Too bad my absolute favorite hasn't done that much stuff.
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>>136237932
I won't buy something solely for the VAs, but it does help get my attention.

Art and character designs are more effective at winning me over. Though if the game looks likely to be bad or mediocre, I'll still usually wait for reviews. I've learned the hard way that even if everything else is great, bad writing can ruin the whole experience.
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>>136237932
Big seiyuufag here.
While I often buy games mainly for the cast, I also buy games that don't have anyone I'm interested in if they're really good.

>>136239428
>watching anime for your favorite VA
Worst idea ever. I'd have to force myself through multiple harem series and dense MCs.
Would only do it if my favorite VA had an interesting role.
>rare seiyuu
Who is it?
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>>136237932
I don't buy games because of VAs, only if it's proved worth it somehow.

Sometimes VAs I love do shit shows but I still can't submit myself to watch these, like Maeno with Super Lovers next season.
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>>136245596
Super Lovers is pretty cute, from what I remember.
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>>136237932
If it has my seiyuubando, I'll buy it. He's been getting a lot more rolls lately, which is nice. Too bad he'll never do porn
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>>136245680
I've read almost 2 books and didn't find it anywhere that good, and damn blueballing.
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>>136237932
When it comes to games, I don't care much about VAs although it is a very nice bonus if my favorites are voicing the main characters. But with drama CDs seiyuus are the deciding factor.
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>>136245680
>>136246206
It was kinda cute at first but then it gets a bit draggy. Not wasting my time watching the anime since when is bl anime good anyway?
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>>136248690
That one BL movie that aired recently is apparently good.
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At least the background changes.
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>>136236417
At that point I was just so impressed by how contrived it was and how the game took itself so seriously. I had to keep playing just to see how much worse it can get.

And wasn't the dog fucking right after Aoba killed his long-lost twin? How romantic. I kept expecting the tower to collapse while they were still fucking.
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>>136255254
This sounds fucking hilarious.
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>>136176359
>Men's M has too much width
>Ladies' M has too little length

Can't win

>>136178689
They're nice overall, though I like Reiji and Masato's first shirts more, Ren's shirt looks like the designer was on a deadline and ran out of ideas, and Tokiya's shirt not having a hand-drawn animal on it is kind of disappointing. I was gonna complain about Syo's shirt having a back pocket but the message made me dokidoki, so I'll allow it.
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>>136255768
It is.
The dog is also you and then he becomes your brother.
Nitro+Chiral is telling you that fucking your brothers and yourself is completely okay
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>>136237932
Having a seiyuu I like in a game is just a bonus. I might check out a game because of them, but if it sounds boring I won't go out of my way.

Speaking of, it's KENN's birthday. I'll get comfy and listen to his MeiKoi pillow talk CD to celebrate.
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>>136257484
>>136255768
>>136255254
>>136236417
>>136219562
>LITERALLY FUCK THE ROBOT TO DEATH

Damnit I wish I had "dick dick dick cock in my mouth.jpg"
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>>136257484
It's twincest, selfcest, bestiality, and quasi necrophilia all rolled into one. Did the devs write the story based on some kink meme bingo game?

>>136258552
How did the robot's dick not break off inside Aoba's ass? Every other part of him was flaking off.
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>>136258552
Here you go, Anon. I looked through several of my poorly organised image folders just for you.
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http://www.stellaworth.co.jp/shop/

Anyone order from here? How accurate is their in-stock?
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>>136221148
No official reason given whatsoever. It's more fun to see the fanartists' explanations anyway.
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>>136257484
Don't forget that Ren is technically a Tulpa.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVAxgUOsGSo

I want a second Yumecast album already.
>>
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>>136189215
>TYBs with normal sized torsos.
That's just not right.
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>>136260841
Never had a problem with in-stock stuff so I'll assume it's fine.
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So QuinRose artist is working with Otomate now. I don't really like their art but good for them I guess.
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>>136279546
Neat, they got a new copycat artist for Hakuoki
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>>136279934
Oh wait, Mari is a composer?
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>>136279546
>>136280109
Not sure why I read artist instead of composer.
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>>136200657
>Sukisho will most likely never be fully translated

This makes me sadder than it has any right to.
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>>136279546
I've only listened to a few tracks, so I'm not too familiar. How's Mari's composition on average? Is it any good, or is it the same old plain music.
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>>136237932
I'm a bit of a koebuta, but I don't buy the games for the voice actor.

Plot and graphisms are the only things that count to me.
It isn't like there is a gazillion games on vita for me to be super picky.

But voice can make or break a husbando for me.

I'll have difficulties husbanding a dude with a high pitched voice for example (Kaji I'm thinking of you, no matter how talented and sympathetic you are, your voice is not sexy at all.)
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>>136285769
Kaji's voice isn't even very high.
But I totally agree with it not being sexy at all, especially on more 'manly' guys.
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I wish I had a pair of ikemens who'd nag me to keep fit too
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>>136214102
>How's the writing?
Better than in Togainu no Chi
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>>136173460
But anon, Diabolik Wifebeaters are all the rage in Area 11...
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Playing ToriMari right now and ugh the elder brother is a honest-to-god autistic creep and the younger a bratty piece of shit rapist and I thought I couldn't get through with it but then the NTR route saved it all.
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>>136294338
Was interested in playing it but then realized the dad just has a bad end.
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>Tsukasa and Wataru
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あんさんぶるすたーず!
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>>136237932
I'm a huge fag for Yocchin. Him, Sakurai, and Hosoya. That's why BWS is the best thing ever.

I bought Norn9 for Yocchin, and I got Binary Star for him and Sakurai, but I haven't made any other purchases like that.

I just wish Yocchin got more characters where he'd get to use his yankee voice, he's so good at it.
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With all these Vita ports being announced, I hope Glass Heart Princess is on the way. Seems cute, and looks like it might scratch the itch for more "fawning butler/attendant" types like Luca. Though I'm not too fond of stat raising elements.
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>>136315303
Isn't that just a pretty mediocre game?
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>>136315303
Apparently the system for that game is really hard and confusing.
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>>136317531
They might change the system for a port, though.
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Is there a stream for AnimeJapan? people on /a/ said it's region locked but I can manage that, I still can't find anything on nico though.
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>>136317531
Any system for otome gamers is really hard and confusing.
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>>136198346
You'll might want to try stuff outside of BLVNs from Japan then. Starfighter, Coming Out On Top, Super Health Club, to name a few.
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>>136321473
I'm personally more interested in if there's a stream for the Tourabu stage l.
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>>136198346
>If anyone has some recommendations I would be more than happy to look at them.

Not my list but >http://englishblgames.tumblr.com/game%20index
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>>136324075
Why are you linking tumblr for an index when vndb would do a better job?
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>>136324653
Because vndb is already listed up there as a resource.
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>>136326228
Which makes it even more confusing why you see the need to link to a different, worse index.
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>>136323428
That's exactly why I am asking. Some nice seiyuus will be there.
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>>136324653
Because tumblr better suits that individual than here.
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>>136326631
It might not be as comprehensive, but it's nice to be able to quickly scan the art styles without having to click through a second time.
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>>136327468
Why would you send someone who hates fujoshits to a site full of fujoshits?
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>>136328178
It's also a site full of faggots and SJWs who want realistic representations of faggots in media.
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What's the most out of place OST you've heard?
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>>136260841
I keep getting invalid request when adding to card.
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>>136329834
Nevermind it suddenly works after like 5 tries.
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>>136328304
>realistic representations of faggots in media
They never said anything like that. I think what Anon was getting at was simply not wanting the common "pretty boy" design or delicate, whimpering uke trope. Guys more NTY-style or bara in other words. Sounds like they'd have more luck with OEL VNs in that case.
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>>136331093
>OEL VNs
So shit from tumblr?
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>>136326631
Why do you consider it worse?
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>>136331818
Are you seriously asking me why a simple index is inferior to vndb?
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>>136333703
Are you seriously answering a question with a question?
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>>136335487
Dumb questions deserve dumb answers.
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>>136294338
I'm a fucking gross masochist, and this got me interested. Is the screen resolution resizable? 1024x768 is annoying on my laptop screen, and I don't like playing in fullscreen.

I know the Bocchi Musume trial had resizing, so I was just curious. Sorry for the dumb question.
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>>136337232

It probably is? I'm pretty sure Torikago has a trial too, you could check that out.
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>>136321473
>>136323428
Tried looking around a bit. Found some individual streams for sone of the stages, but nothing for Tourabu.

Does anyone know more? Is there really no stream for it?
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>>136339514
Tried out the trial, but the resize seems kinda fiddly. Feel like it's worth checking out anyway, I've been sorely lacking in new r18 games that actually catch my attention.
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>>136337232
The screen is fixed at 800x600.

Honestly I can't recommend this game though, the drama is interesting enough to keep me playing but the characters are just unattractive.
IMO games written by Hiyo (Akazukin to Mayoi no Mori, Ijiwaru My Master, Under The Moon) are similar in tone and direction but much more enjoyable.
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>>136259606
Thank you anon! Now I gotta find the video somewhere
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>>136344725
Oh shit you're right, it does resize.
Sorry for talking out of my ass.
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>>136344728
I've already played a good bit of Hiyo's games, actually. Kinda peeved that the Win7 patch for Love Drops isn't available fucking anywhere...I know it's not as good as her other stuff, but it looks cute at least.

Torikago's visual style appeals to me at least? The heroine is really cute, which is always a plus.

My standards for r18 games are embarrassingly low, honestly. As long as there's mean/possessive boys and a cute heroine I'll at least be entertained. Hell, I can find enjoyment in Tiaramode's games.
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>>136346478
Duh, Tiaramode games are great if you're not afraid of cheese. I was actually pretty sad when they died, but some of their staff apparently formed A'sRing and sure enough, Onedari Sharemate is more of their style of unapologetic fluff.

I guess if you like possessive guys, try PersonA? The story gets a bit tedious at times but I enjoyed it.
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>>136335710
0/10 effort
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>>136294338
I remember I tried playing that game and ended up skipping through nearly the entirety of the two brothers' routes to get to Hayama's route. Was completely worth it. Hayama a best. Still sad that his route was so short though. He only got one lewd scene in the end, but it was pretty good. That moaning as the protagonist played with his nipples was grand.
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>>136021120
>tfw otherwise good fanart ruined by Jew nose or huge mouth
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>>136347564
As a lame-ass musical theatre loving dork, PersonA caught my eye pretty quickly but I haven't really gotten around to it. I like Mirai's other stuff too-- even Tsundere S Otome, as weird and kinda asspull-y as the story seems so far.

My download for Torikago seems to be fucking up anyway...might just end up starting PersonA.
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