/dfg/- Dwarf Fortress General

It was inevitable.

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>decide to dig an unnecessarily complex system of magma tunnels around the 1st cavern layer for cleaning purposes
>galena everywhere
>galena is magma safe
>have to dump it because muh 'tism
>duchess hard at work hauling lead boulders
>elven diplomat arrives and goes to meet her deep in the tunnels
>she's also the militia commander and a macelord

I think I'll just leave his corpse here. Bless my plumbing with an incinerated elf. For good luck.

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Cleaning up the 24x36 set some more I decided to go ahead and trim it back down to the base white regions first before I experiment with tilemagic and such again.

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Goddamn, where is everyone tonight?

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How's this for a building style? Going full above-ground town, save for a quarry/mine and occasional basements. The stone is diorite and the wood is willow, both blocks. I'm planning to make it pretty dense with the buildings, with three-tile-wide paved roads, probably also diorite blocks, and a wall to cap it all off once I'm done. Any suggestions?

>>135467321
poking at pixels in gimp atm

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Here's my first attempt for comparison. I think it looks like shit, but it was an interesting learning experience.

>4 giant tortoises enter map
>try to build the traps on top of them
>2 are out of map bounds and I can't build on top of them
I have 2 of the same sex now, and the other two won't move their asses into the cage traps. At least they live long and I can establish a breeding population later.

>>135468483
Looks good. Are you planning to build up any? I don't know how well that style will translate to additional floors.

>>135467321
Playing minesweeper

Gotta work on my candy mining without releasing the clowns ability

>>135469389
That's kinda why I'm here. The basic tiny house looks alright, but for bigger buildings like a barracks or keep, I might need to do some experimenting with different materials.

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Okay, what's it going to be?

If you have sand or clay you could use those. Glass and clay are pretty fuel intensive industries if you don't have magma, though.

>>135471824
Meant for
>>135470867

>>135471323
Armorstand.

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>>135471323
>>135471942
This is all kinds of wrong.

>>135471824
I have some clay, but no sand. Never worked with clay before, either. What kind of arrangement were you thinking? Stone edges with clay walls instead of wood?

Any advice for someone about to build his first pumpstack?
Could a pumpstack be considered a megaproject?

>>135472309
>artifact quern
jesus chri
>platinum
well i
>spikes of ruby
okay please sto
>image of an elf
okay, well is it
>ELF IS NOT DYING
INTO THE TRASH

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Any idea what's wrong here? This has been causing my game crash for a while now. The files are present in the folder.

>>135472328
Maybe. Adobe buildings are a thing, and clay slat roofs as well. Also most bricks used for residential construction irl are made from clay (in the US at least). It could make a nice aesthetic theme for your city, or even just a sector of it. Perhaps stone blocks for structural elements (corners, pillars, doorways, etc) and clay bricks for walls and/or roofs? Just a thought. Keep in mind that anything you would use wood for you could use clay for instead; it will just cost 3 extra jobs to turn a log into a brick. 1 to gather the clay, 1 to turn the wood into charcoal, and 1 to turn the charcoal into a clay block. There's no mechanical benefit to doing so, it would just be an aesthetic thing. Unless you have fire clay, whose products are more valuable than wood.

>cook is making lavish masterwork meals all day
>complains the food is bad

>>135472309
>>135472426

What's up with querns, right?

In adventure mode every Night Troll lair I've found, apart from the usual collection of carving, boning and slicing knives, had a fucking quern. But like all of them. Why?

Is there any way I can make a creature tantrum/go berserk using interactions or syndromes?

It is terrifying.

>faggot started working on an artifact
>cunt stole one of my rubies to make his artifact
>forbid it then someone took it back to the bin
>he is still there working on the artifact
What's going to happen?

>>135473492
But also, clay is an unlimited resource. When I have my magma kiln set up I usually make a dwarf churn out clay statues to sell untill they become legendary.

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>giraffes just came into my map and fell into the traps
>5 x butchering returns
>breeding pair

>>135474575
>roughly 8000 lavish prepared meals in stockpile
>dwarves complaining that theres no food because the meat and plant stockpile is empty
Its like they dont want any of my thousands of plump helmet roasts

>>135468483
>>135468686

Whenever I build above ground, I build massive supports to everything.

>channel a huge rectangle 1 z down
>fill the whole damn thing with stone walls
>construct building onto that

Downside is you have to dig small service tunnels to finish the support but you can cover them with hatch covers and call them storm cellars.
Upside is your dwarves have 1z of stone beneath their feet, also you get rid of excess stones.

>>135473492
I'll get a clay factory set up then and see how it looks for roofing. If i dont like it, ill just make containers & statues out of it. Thanks for the idea.

>No wood
>No metal
>No weapons
>In cavern
>A wild troll appears!
>Punchpunchpunch
>Unconscious troll surrounded by unconscious dorfs
They aren't even getting experience from it.
And my one miner is just standing a way off watching.

>>135477225
>breaching the caverns without any of those things
its like your actually trying to have fun

Just finished Dwarf Fortress, liked the ending.
Are there similar games?

>>135477796
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic has a pretty similar feel, and an almost identical ending.

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>>135477339
>Fun Police
What is this, /v/?

My one hope is the miner getting involved, but he's just standing there. Not even doing anything else. Drafting him didn't help.

And the one skill they are gridning is "observer". None of them are yet observent enough to realise they're dying of thirst just next to a pile of booze.

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why da po lees is raycis

>>135472352
Designate the construction from the bottom up and suspend them all, then unsuspend from the top down and have them built in that order, it makes the liquid teleport from each input/output tile in a tick or so rather than multiple ticks like normal.

If I channel the entire surface z-level, will the soil below become the new surface and will I be able to plant surface plants on it?


>>135478535
Type Fun on the wiki.

>>135462610
who is this semen demon?

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>>135479156
No idea, but here's another pic of her/him.

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>>135479343
And another one.

>>135479136
If it's soil then yes. It just has to have been exposed to sunlight to count as outside. Still need the right biome for the crops though.

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Which real life country are the elves most similar to?

>>135479568

Elves

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>>135479136
Don't worry, I know what fun is.

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Fucking werehare... Got dragged back by the limping blacksmith, now theres more.

>>135479568
Sweden

>>135480258
Elves are not self-destructive though.

>>135480276
they are when they try to tell me how many trees i can cut down
who would dwarves be?

>>135480687

*raises paw*

I think dwarves are nordics or finns

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>>135479568
If it existed.

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>>135480180
>multi-zlevel halls

Is there a reason not to use a pike over a spear in adventure mode?

>>135480180
>>135481152

Speaking of which, how did you dig out those halls?

>>135482356
Channels and upwards ramps.

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>>135481364
I don't think the contact area of pikes are an improvement... but it's been a while since I switched my weapons around to get rid of the "bashes the incredibly lethal metal beast with the wooden haft of their weapon" nonsense.

>>135482712

I don't like racism in this game, is there a mod to remove it?

>>135482780
Racism like?

>>135482937

Only dwarfs migrate?
Why not humans or elves or goblins?
They are people too

>>135482970
Even though this is a troll question, now that we have multi-species forts, it's actually legit.

Almost all civilisations in the game have a populations of other species(to varying degrees). It's a bit weird that only members of the same race migrate.

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>>135482970
"they will integrate someday"

>>135482780
Hahahaha you really are funny, theres no racism at all in the game yet sadly.

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>>135482970
>not having homogeneous fort

It is racist to keep the underprivileged goblin youths out of your fort

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So I was trying to use that trick to make various spots on the map evil and it's still got some figuring out to be done.

>33x33 world
>100 regions
>gui/gm-editor df.global.world.world_data.region_map[99]
>segfault
>[89]
>segfault
>fuck, ok, [69] (heh)
>segfault
>gaddamn, [40] work?
>pic related suggests that despite the lack of a segfault, no, it did not

>>135484054
>youth
nigga most of them are hundreds of years old

>>135480258
>>135480876
Elves are swedish, and dwarves are nordic?
Does this mean all elves are dwarves, but not all dwarves are elves?

>>135484710
Elfs are Celtic dwarfs are Germanic.

>>135480876
>le viking dorfs meme
Not even close. Everyone knows that Tolkien dorfs are based on ancient jews, and the dwarves in DF share the chief characteristics of those dwarves.

The TES dwemer, who also seem to have made a source of inspiratio, are obviously based on Assyrians, which come pretty close to ancient Israelites.

The monumental architecture and masonry associated with dwarves also speaks against the nordic dorf theory.

>>135484878
So you're saying my Scottish/German/Native American mix is what kind of horrific monstrosity now?

>>135485061
Scottish, Native American ? What the hell are you talking about.

Germans have dwarfs in their myths and elfs are more of a celtic thing.

Though to be honest it really seems the Elfs are just Greeks while being celtic and yet without beards.

>>135485003
>/pol/ is right once again

>>135485003
Oh come on Dwarfs dug deep and of course they couldn't be based on jews they couldn't stop the Romans.

If anything dwarfs are really underground Romans with their deeproads.

>>135485478
>of course they couldn't be based on jews they couldn't stop the Romans.
Most genned worlds will tell you that dwarves failed to stop the goblins.

>>135485621
>World Gen.
Yet FB and titans made of fragile desolate civilizations.

Goblins don't age or drink or eat they're pretty much going to out number dwarfs like china does.

>>135485621
Ive also seen entire dwarven civ get destroyed by a single griffin I added to the game.

>>135485203
I've got family from those three, so I would be part elf, part dwarf, part... ???

>Soap.

Soap is the only item dwarves will use to sterilize a wound. While dwarves are of course aware that humans will pour perfectly quaffable alcohol over their bloody wounds and onto the filthy ground to get the same effect, dwarves understand that some things are more precious than a single life, and face oblivion with a bit more dignity. Application of extreme heat is also well known to prevent infections and seal a wound, but dwarves consider magma the only legitimate heat source, and the non-lethal application of magma a sacrilege.

I am guilty of autodumping wood logs and stone blocks

>China has real life hammerers, but in the USA we don't.

I feel like such an elf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z84STbSvI54&feature=youtu.be

>>135487785
>wahh wahh you didn't make me enough toy boats, thats a le hammerin
Why would I ever appoint a hammerer? I'm not going to let my shitty nobles order executions left and right just because someone upset their feelings.

Is there a particular reason the only visitors my fort get are animal people or is this just random chance?

>>135489561

If there is a single cheese maker coming I slaughter the entire wave of migrants

>>135489561
The amount of wild animal people is controlled by the level of "savagery" in a given region. Idon't know exactly what triggers animal person populations to settle in civilisations, but it might have to do with how tolerant those civilisations are towards other races and cultures.

Human civs have randomised values, so it MIGHT be that you got an exceptionally tolerant human civ, with an exceptionally large animal person population.

>>135488440
Because sometimes that's just what a degenerate fort needs.

>>135489784
I like cheesemaking. I like all the "luxury" industries with no clear advantages. I like firing kaolinite, making glass(clear glass beats the dirty glass), making honey, roasting eggs and so on.

What is a portal?
For glass?

>>135490191
A door. 10 seconds on the wiki would make that clear.

>>135490171
I like porcelain, glass, and eggs as well. I think they do have some advantages. Porcelain for mid-high value, glass for infinite raw materials, and eggs because god damn you can sell roasts for thousands.

>>135490191
A door.

>>135489829
It's probably the savagery level. Judging by the fact that all I get is rattlesnakes, kangaroos, wombats and things that could kill my dwarves horribly it seems I've settled in bloody 'straya. May as well start only making beer, buy some chickens and open a Nando's.

>>135490191
It's a glass door.

>>135490483
The point where the elemental planes of pain, fear, and poison intersects with Earth?

You poor bastard, send me a golden gaytime wouldya?

>>135474664
For grinding up the bones of their victims. Where do you think they get all the bone meal in their lairs?

>>135474664
It's for grinding bones into meal.

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>>135491024
I'd love to, but now that these cunts have showed up, I'm not sure any delivery boy I send out is going to make the trip from my gates to the edge of the map.

>>135491225
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt1C9qmuh_g

>>135491463
Straya is an island of peace #notallroos.

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>>135491884
Would you take the stuffed animal from him?

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>>135491884
>>135492325
They'd be like real life kobolds if they weren't so strong.

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>>135492450
Roobolds are cute! CUTE!

>Marathoned DF for 15 minutes
>Now exhausted
>Not tired enough to sleep

Eh just save me

>>135493023
What
15 minutes aren't even long

>>135493023
complete the 200word essay maybe?

Will grass and trees grow on soil I exposed by channeling?

>>135493190
Fuck, why did you remind me. I still have almost 1500 words left on my 7000 word paper that is due tomorrow.

what should be my popcap?

>>135482645
WW1 Dwarf Fortress?

>>135494706

7

>>135494410
By this I mean exposing underlying soil to the surface by channeling all the soil above it.

>>135494706
Seven, but remember to accept that one female performer.

>>135494410
>>135494862
Yes.

>>135494885
I meant to say "that one human female performer"

>tfw dreamed toady had made music based on the instruments and scrips generated in DF
It was glorious

>>135496002
But anon, Toady HAS made music. You can read all about it in detail in-game.

If you meant "made music" as in music you can listen to, I know about two DF fans who made midi versions of the "example songs" that Toady released before 0.42 was released. I forgot where I found their samples, but I remember that they sounded pretty cool, if a bit odd.

>>135496357
I meant generated music, a different tune for every fort!

>>135496357
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0AGfzFqzFiU

Quick question. Roughly how many chickens would it take to set up a meat industry large enough to support a single Nando's?

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Is there a way to view detailed information about dead dwarves, like you would a live one?
I'd like to know about their relationships and kills, but all I can find out about them is what's on their engraved slabs
I'm guessing there are some interesting stories in this graveyard

>>135497456
You shouldn't be able to, but there is a way to access their screens even after they're dead. You just have to find one of their acquaintances, and find the deceased dwarf through the relationship screen. From there, you can view their personal details like when they were still alive.

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>>135497725
ah i see, that gives me most of what i want
unfortunately the dwarves im looking for were werepandas at their time of death so they dont have very detailed descriptions
thanks anyway

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df players be like: the current bogeymen are too OP

Why is there no FBs that spit/projectile vomits a random substance?
Because I just got this vision of capturing a beer-puking FB and placing him chained in the main hall as a terrifying beer fountain.

>fucking fisherdwarves never build the fucking fishery

>great horned owl flies above
>giraffes scatter across the 4 cardinal points
Really.

>>135499369
Fisherdorfs don't build fishery. Fish cleaners do.

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Elves... goblins...

How are they related to one another in the DF universe?

I guess this will have a different answer for each genned world as soon as the myth release is out.

>>135486336
>pour perfectly quaffable alcohol
WASTEFUL! You wouldn't use water for anything else than drinking, right? :^)

>>135499890
Any fishing labor works to build a fishery. Dwarves prioritize fishing to building a fishery, though. Or to almost anything else.

>>135498926
There kind of are. Every syndrome producing fb's syndrome is randomly generated. I don't know if euphoria is a possible effect, but dizziness, numbness, nausea, and narcolepsy are all possible. It wouldn't be called beer and dwarves wouldn't get a happy thought from drinking it, but it's almost there.

>>135486120
>Native American
Salmon Man,

>Scottish
Scottish Terrier Man.

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>New migrant's only skill is small animal dissection

>caravan arrives
>werebeast attacks and dies
>caravan said they are leaving
>they are still here a season later

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Place your bets men.

>>135506668
What kind of smith?

If weaponsmith: short sword
If metalcrafter: it doesn't matter

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>>135506668
>>135506854
It's the second time my dwarves make an artifact depicting THIS elf in a positive/neutral manner, what the fuck is wrong with them?

>war hammer
>ha ha, nope, enjoy your 3 ton wheelbarrow

So I read that Cado's magical journey story and a lot of the shit in there is possible with dfhack and mods. Launch can replicate a lot of the telekinesis effects, and abuse of hyperspeed is indeed devastating.

I don't have a thing where I can point and say "die" but I can spit and set people on fire.

Also have an idea what that "force your fist through the future" thing is like from the onepunch script I put together to crank an attack velocity waaaaaaay up, bodies flying to the edge of the screen and dying in mid-air type stuff.

Being able to "mine" open a wall with magic instead of advfort.

Being able to heal others with some syndrome getting more pronounced side-effects on yourself is basically possible now (jack up their recuperation, give yourself something using the concentration effects, though the bark/branches might be tricky to do) with some clever interactions.

Having something like the tracking interface with different colors/different symbols for magical energy flows/ley lines would be neat too.

>>135507026
The elves are our greatest allies in the forest region. We have much to learn from them.

>>135492450
>yfw kangaroo is more /fit/ than you

>>135507026
Your fort is probably in the region that the elf journeyed in. So there will be a bunch of historical events related to it. When your dwarves start engraving they'll probably cover your fort with images of that elf.
I had a fort in 40.24 that ended up being practically a shrine to a battle between a marksdwarf and a yeti. Easily 1/3rd of all the hundreds of images and statues in the fort were about their battle. It was the only thing that had ever happened in the region I embarked on before I got there, and they kept obsessively commemorating it even after I made plenty of more interesting history for them to depict.

>>135506303
can I make the fucking merchants leave by retiring and coming back?
there are no trees blocking them

>>135510289
Try turning it off and then turning it on again(By de- and reconstructing the depot. When there's no depot, they should leave).

>>135510843
they started killing each other now
the escorts

>>135511352
Did any of them transform?

>>135512689
not sure, I am not getting announcements but they start and stop fighting now and then
also both of them are called "speardwarf", they should have a were name if they transform, right?

and the fucking depot has been slated for removal for aeons, why are the carpenters retarded

>Finally get a good fortress running, ,azs of traps and killing fileds and mountains of angry dorf warriors clad in iron

>No enemys, no invasions ever

tis like the gods hate me

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Think this one is done unless I missed a random patch of light grey which should be white or some shit again.

Left the walls simple cause I'm gonna check out some of the diagonal wall variants in other sets and see if I can fold one in.

>>135514179
It's like you didn't make sure where you embarked was a good spot for a defensive fort.

>>135512875
Perhaps Toady removed the ability to remove constructions in use, in order to prevent exploits.

The people attacking each other sounds like a loyalty cascade, but I have no idea what caused it.

>>135518368
I don't get it, friendo

>>135497365
Bring along 3 hens and 1 gobbler. Set up nestboxes in a room thats tightly shut. Forget about them for an ingame month or so. Come back to turkeysplosion

>>135518643
Memetale.

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>Half a dozen dorfs die of thirst
Wow, someone sure fucked up.

why are my dwarves training even when they arent scheduled to?

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le page 10 face

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>>135526638
>Nothing but copper on the map

>>135526638
Is this still accurate?

>>135528384
yes

>want to build a fort in a volcano
>build a drain
>drain is too small, its taking ages
all I wanted was a fortress with a self destruct lever

HOW THE LITERAL FUCK DO I GET OUT OF THIS TREE I STARTED IN IN ADVENTURE MODE REEEEE

IM SO FUCKING MAD

>>135529554
Climbing. Default key is 'h'.

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>>135528384
Maybe

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>>135531818

>Dorf in hospital
No idea what happened. The combat log has him taking an "impact", but doesn't say what from. Best prepare another coffin.

How do I get meat from creatures I kill in adventure mode? I have a knife in my bags but I cant seem to equip it and the interaction menu (x) to butcher things says I dont have the right tool.

>>135533012
You need the tool in a hand.

>>135532708
he fell from somewhere

>>135533012
>>135533215
Objects used in reactions need to either be held in one of your hands, or lying at your feet.

>>135528384
Mostly. It's wrong about ammunition (though that info wasn't accurate for the version it was written for either), and doesn't account for the de facto upgrade that maces got by the addition of pulping mechanics.

>>135533340
Makes sense. Poor bastard is still going to die though, as there's no water to give him and no one will bring booze.

>>135535070
sick dwarves do not drink booze.

>>135529086
I broadened the drain and its working like a charm now

>>135535359
And that's why they die.

why is my military training even when the schedule is deactivated?

>>135536119
Militia with nothing better to do will sometimes choose to train in their free time. Sometimes they will even when they do have something better to do. If they have dutiful personality traits or high discipline they're more likely to do so.
If you want them to stop unassign their squad from their barracks, and when their current individual drill jobs complete no more will be taken until they have a barracks reassigned. Make sure to reassign their barracks when they go back on duty. Another way is to give them a station order and lock the door behind them when they leave the barracks, then cancel the order. Or you can deconstruct the furniture their barracks is designated from, but that's kind of a pain in the ass.

My military does not understand shoes.

They're set to wear high boots. So they wear one each.
So I set them to wear two. Now they're wearing two boots and one sock each. Except for one, who has taken off all socks and boots, and gone to bed.

>>135537226
okay, thank you
I was just afraid they are going to get bad thoughts about too much military stuff

>>135539135
Socks before shoes.
Make sure its just one of each in the menu.

does anyone have that gif of a dragon breathing flames?

I need that for references

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post cutebolds

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>>135540457
You mean this one?

>>135542258

yes, thanks. still pretty brutal

>>135542424
so many lives lost in such a short timespan

not even the biggest sieges sees such effective killing

>>135494709
by what I gathered.

Will there ever be a new version of kobold camp?

>>135542258
What graphics pack is that?

>>135544781
spacefox

captured a breeding pair of goblins, will they fuck in captivity?

>>135544996
spacefox is for little girls

then, I always wanted to be the little girl

>>135545335
Only if they're married.

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>>135545510
>want to be the little girl
>don't like spacefox
>realize I'll never be the little girl
>mfw I became a normalfag so hard that I'm not a little girl anymore

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>tfw managed to set up an FPS killing device

>one lever will proceed to drain the local brook into a reservoir
>which in return drains into a nother reservoir
>if there's overflow, (which there is),
it will simultaneously fill a third reservoir
>a second lever fills my moat from two separate points, one has such a heavy flow it sucked badgers and langurs into my moat on several occasions
>with a third lever I can squirt pressurized water into the caverns

Activating all this at once drops my FPS from a steady 80 to 20.

>>135547567
Wait until you've got 200 citizens, thousands of stones, and tens of thousands of worn out pieces of clothing. Then, wait until you get a full gobbo siege with war animals and everything.

Then, you can activate your device.

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When will Toady start working seriously on making DF more user friendly?

First of all, the game needs a mandatory tutorial session for the first time you start playing each game mode. It's really uncool to just leave new players hanging, wondering what to do. It's threatening, and like I said, really uncool.

Second, both modes need a main purpose, and a straight path to get there. When a new player is faced with this big world with all kinds of things to do, it can feel kinda confusing. In order to make new players feel more welcome, Toady should probably cut down on the excess features for a while(perhaps remove distractions like music), and work on streamlining the gamplay, for example by adding a clear goal and ending.

>>135540076
Nah, that was removed in .40. Though dwarves who are on duty all the time will never have an opportunity to fill their social/worship/etc needs, so I guess it was added back in more organic way than military dwarves just getting pissed about their jobs.

>>135549753
I really couldn't tell whether you were serious until after the second line break. You went a little too hard there.

>>135549753
There's a help button, it's the question mark.
>Second, both modes need a main purpose
And I'm sure this is bait now.

>>135550184
Never go full untard.

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>page 10

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admire this artifact

>>135553893
Neat.
What is it.

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>>135553893
i hate it

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>>135553893
I would love to drink chocolate milk out of that cup.

>>135554301
I would like to eat a milk chocolate version of that cup.

>Anon cancels page 10: experiencing emotional shock.

are we usually this dead between updates?

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Might have to dig it deeper.

>>135556910
Not like this. It got even deader than usual about a week after .42 dropped.

>>135557343
>that flat dwarf
You could make a minecart safety psa out of that.

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>>135557553
If only stonesense wasn't so unstable.

How can I make dwarfs wear several layers of clothing? Like 2 pants or 5 cloaks.

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>>135557873
Deeper!

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>>135559127

>>135559554
Haven't played with AV since 40.24. Are those engraved walls?

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>>135559554

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>>135560648
Glass ramps and engraved everything, and that was from 40.24, just reminded me of the columns seeing the other shot with them.

>>135524761
Dedication.

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>>135553893
>magic artifacts update
>drinking from this nautilus shell cup enables the imbiber to breathe underwater and sprout fins
>tfw no undersea coral fort

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I just remembered that fort with the big columns was a hacked up experiment where I tried to build a volcano with tiletypes and then when the sludge started raining on them I tried to dfhack a roof into place and it immediately fell, killing them all.

>Oh shit, don't worry about that slime guys, I'll take care of it.
>7 dorfs have been crushed under a collapsing ceiling!
>Oh, fuck... guys? Anyone alive under there?
>Your settlement has crumbled.

Then I laughed for five minutes straight and brought an adventurer out there to work on the site.

>>135560997
They also enjoy it after a while. Now it is more obvious when you get ones with a martial training need.

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So theres a dwarf being really really stupid, when theres 100s of invaders ready to wipe us out.

>page 9
Led Zeppelin: Communication breakdown

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116 invaders.

>>135563006
He's just enthusiastic.

If I keep editing the population cap in the save files, will I be able to control the flow of them?

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Try to come up with a more overpowered megabeast, I fucking dare you

>>135567226

never fought a megabeast that spews out face melting dust?

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>>135567226
deadly dust winged spider composed of steel

Yours is pretty good though.

>>135567226
Walking flesh blob that spits globs.

>>135567396
at least when i get that i can be a pussy and carve fortifications into the cave and shoot them to death with crossbows

this thing is made of one of the densest metals in the game

maybe I could cheese it with a ton of weapon traps?

>>135567872

FBs don't set off weapon traps

>>1355679588

so i'd have to kill it with caveins or lava or something i guess

if i really wanted to bother, it's just the caverns

>>135568012

iirc web slingers are stun immune too so you can't use cave ins

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Seems they're getting purged by fire.

>>135568147
Yeah, but nothing is "giant 5x5x5 slab of rock falling on top of you creating new terrain" immune, as i was aware

how would I make a controlled cave in?
they rarely happen to me and I'd like to weaponize this

>>135568489
sure, my go to is capturing FBs though!

>>135568678
pillar+lever

>>135568678
bait something into a corridor/room with a puppy/kitten/dwarf/whatever, seal it in with a bridge. or if you time it perfectly you could just drop it on as it walks under it.

then you carve out a block above it, and channel all the edges except one, so that it's basically hovering by just the one floor tile

make sure everyone is clear and away from the block, channel out the last square, splat

>>135567778
Easy mode.
>>135568489
You're right. A cave in will kill anything in the game.
>>135568678
Use supports (the building) linked to a lever and then remove all orthogonal support. Pull the lever and you've made anything-under-it pancakes.

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How can I seal this off? It's a pasage drinking water coming from a surface brook, but I'd like to replace all the muddy walls/floors with stone. Just tried making some walls fall on it from the surface and it didn't do anything to close it off.

>>135570673
3 ways I can think of offhand. You can use pump spam to lower the water level enough to build a wall. You can dig a (closable) outlet that drains the water to a lower z-level faster than it fills the tunnel. Or you can drop magma on it to make an obsidian plug. If you have undug natural walls anywhere above the tunnel you could also engineer a cave in to block the tunnel.
Of those 4 ways, option 2 is probably the easiest and safest.

>>135572742
How would you suggest I drain it? I'm still very new to pumps and mechanics and stuff. I tried building a bunch of walls above a support, then collapsing it on top of my passage, but it didn't work, the walls appeared to have vanished once they hit the ground.

>>135573268
Yeah, constructions just collapse into their constituent materials in a cave in. The wiki article on cave ins is a good resource for learning the quirks of how cave ins behave in different contexts.
If you want to use pumps, just build a ton of them downstream from the opening with some retaining walls to keep the water from washing back into the stream or pushing your dwarves off the pumps. Maybe a channel that leads offmap to give the water somewhere to go (there will be more than you expect).
The easier way I referenced would just be to dig into the tunnel or stream from below. Make a wider tunnel that leads to fortifications on the map edge or into the caverns, and be sure to add floodgates or a raising bridge to block the flow later. Water pressure will cause the water to spread downward instead of horizontally. Your tunnel will drain (eventually) and you'll be able to build whatever you want in it. The only (relatively) difficult part will be making the opening wide enough to drain the water faster than it enters the map. You can use the cave in technique you tried before to do that if you dig cleverly. Hint: cave ins pierce floors that don't have walls below them.

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I've been playing for so many years but I just can't get excited about a new fort anymore.

All I see is FPS death in 10 hours.

>>135576102
How about a desert fort made entirely out of glass
where your exports are all glassware
and you only make glass containers
glass everything
glass

Good night Dort bread

What can I do to build some walls in this water? I've tried draining the cavern out, but it got to depth 2/7 and now its only trickling out

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>>135576994
forgot pic

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does anybody else start sacrificing dorfs after you get mountain home?

>>135579001
I've been losing a handful of dwarves every time I get a goblin raid

idk weather to raise my population cap or just live with it and train harder.

does dfg still hate Masterwork?

>>135580610
I mean we get FPS death in 10 hours as it is, MW just cuts that time down to maybe 2 now.

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>>135580610
wait I heard something over there

>>135574803
How about a pump stack taking it out of my channel and bringing it back into the brook, but upstream. Can pumps do that fast enough or would I need more than one?

>>135576102
Every time I see this image I keep seeing the patches of skin under his mouth that are not covered by his beard as teeth.
And because of that he looks retarded.

>>135580785
I wish DF would be actually playable, having to abandon a fort due to FPS death makes me insanely mad.

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>>135567519
>flying spider the size of a whale that sprinkles ebola wherever it goes and is made of solid steel

That's like some ancient mechanical weapon from a forgotten technologically advanced age that is still causing havoc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfI69DC_jaw

>>135580785
>fps death in 10 hours
>not building a fort on a 1x1 embark in a small world
Five in game years and still 60 fps

>>135583365

5 game years is short tho

>>135583454
I can go longer but after five years fps slowly starts to decline with one about every year or two

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Deadly blood, lets see what this 8 legged dinosaur is made of.

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admire this refined kaolinite

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>>135579509
Rats, forgot that any flaws when I rotated the ones that looked right would show up when I did a 2x2 region.

>>135579509
>>135588028
Didn't know you were a diagonal walls kinda guy.

Personally, I think diagonal walls are the second most cancerous thing in a tileset, the first being rounded walls.

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What do you hate the most about DF, /dfg/?

>>135588458
I'm a variety kinda guy, I like to have options, but I'm picky as hell about pixel perfection so diagonal is more of an experiment to see if I can even do them with the rectangular tiles.

>>135589774

>inevitable FPS death
>mind-scorching micromanagement
>too addictive, ruins my life
>normie acquaintances get confused and ask stupid questions too much when they see me play

That's about it.

Hey friends, how would I go about making a random creature playable in Adventure mode? Dragons in particular. Thanks in advance

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>>135589774
being emotionally invested into these threads so that I'm compelled to monitor them constantly to keep them from premature death

>>135589774
The interface. And not the fact that it's so horribly awkward in places as its inconsistency. And the fact that if Toady hasn't fixed it by now he probably never will.

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Still need to do the pump stack.

>>135589774
Lack of magic and economy.

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>>135590361

>mfw queen just got killed by hadrosaurid FB
What was she even doing in the caverns, stupid bitch

>>135590659
FUCKING LEGENDARY +5 WEAPONSMITH JUST GOT REKT AS WELL FML WHO EVEN CARES ABOUT THE QUEEN

Does Toady enjoy DF?

>>135590804
He's its creator and I've known plenty of artists and they are never satisfied with their work and the longer they work on something the more they hate it but it's still art, so I imagine DF causes Toady great amounts of both grief and joy. Hates it and loves it.

are libraries useful at all?
I started playing again and I discovered locations by accident and I like the idea

I wish I had a God wojak.

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>>135590804
>At about 1:30 a.m., a family of hippos, represented by light gray H’s, swam into the tunnels from a nearby river. Their arrival was an unintended development born entirely of the game’s internal logic. Tarn was pleased. “The hippos like the sewers!” he said. He took a celebratory swig of Dr. Pepper and rocked back and forth.
I think he does.

>>135590981
Idlers will now appear less stupid by hanging around books rather than doing so next to your well. The books your inhabitants will write can sometimes bring a few giggles too.

>>135591172
I will start working on it later then
right now I need more military
I'm bad at managing things

at 40 dorfs now and I only got 10 speardwarves

>>135591018
Somehow this gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.

>>135566505
Yup.

>>135582658
Cannot unsee.

>>135590431
Rest assured that we love you, anon.

>>135589774
The tile dimensions. I almost wish that Toe Dee had nailed down creature sizes from the start so that I knew to build my rooms at X or Y height in a way that made sense and wasn't just "high enough for a worm, a dwarf, or a bronze colossus".

>>135590951
He says that he's making the sort of game he would want to play, so one assumes that his design choices are based somewhat in his enjoyment of them.

>>135591018

>premature balding

it died for our sins

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I'm really loving the recent Likot Udendeb updates, even though I've given up on keeping track of all the minor characters.

I love how many of the events in the story are possible to re-enact in adventure as well as fort mode.

I also love how the underground bandits use activity zones, now. It makes them more similar to Arol-iton in the Likot story.

I'm also loving Tok's appearance. He was originally based on the default dwarf tile in DF, but has changed radically over the course of the story.

does the prospect on dfhack look off to anyone else?

>>135585815
>kaolinite internet defence force at it again
The only clay I need is fire clay.

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The amount of trolls and beak dogs does worry me.

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Never ending trolls.

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Well pretty much forced to fight this army of trolls.

>>135595691

how do i turn on graphics

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>>135595778

The level of gore was rather insane, body parts flying across z levels.
Most of the trolls became overwhelmed by the amount of brutal attacks the dwarfs were able to do.

>>135595691
>Le_9Gag_Army.jpeg

>>135596348

how many military

>>135596657
around 4 axe dwarfs, 4 sword dwarfs, 4 mace dwarfs and 8 hammerdwarfs.

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>>135594446
It's an estimate when done from anywhere but right at the site (adventurer or fort mode) so yeah, if you are using it from the embark screen it isn't 100% accurate until it pulls up the data loaded when you enter the area.

>>135595005
Ma nigga.

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>>135595005
>>135598096
>fire clay
absolutely barbaric

>>135599086
KIDF please go

>>135598096
You know it familia

>>135599315
>>135599086
>not using molten sand forged into lovely green glass by harnessing the power of magma itself

>>135600182
Can glass be used to make pots? I honestly don't know.

Also:
>tfw your embark lacks clay as well as sand

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Posting best rockfu

Why the fuck can't you engrave built rock walls?

>>135601541
No idea

>>135601541
Toady wants you to suffer a fort made of non-uniform stone.

>>135601541
While I agree that it should be possible, it would cause complication with how engravings work. Currently, engravings are associated with the tile they're on, rather than the construction material. Such a system doesn't account for de- and reconstructing walls. If this system is to work realistically, we must be able to build a wall, engrave a particular image, deconstruct it, use the same building material for another wall somewhere else, and then have the original engraving re-appear on the new wall. This would require Toady to re-workthe way in which engravings are handled from scratch. It would probably also kill our fps.

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>>135601763

>joke's on him I hate engravings

>>135601872
I wouldn't mind having engravings destroyed when I deconstruct them, hell just let me fucking engrave.

>>135601763
The absolute madman.

>>135601962
Nice fort, pretty sci-fi-like.

Really ugly tileset, though. Those dorfs look hideous.

>Urist McHauler cancels Collect Clay: Clay vanished.
There's a massive stack of clay in the corner of my still. I have no idea what these twits are doing.

>>135603371
Isn't that the example tile set? Like, the one not meant for actual use?

>>135603371
He forgot to delete graphics-example.txt or forgot to turn GRAPHICS to NO when he switched tilesets.

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>>135601541
Well, you can:
>>135597939
I engraved all of that keep with advfort to see how the different walls/tilemagic shit I was playing with worked out.

Though in that picture I had changed it to stone, I think it was all rock salt there, because the keep was originally cinnabar which is too fucking red!

>>135603371
>sci-fi-like.
How?

>>135604857
Mostly because of the "clean" impression given by the pure block walls, along with all the glass doors. It all gave me the impression of some space ship interior.

>>135602001
Having them go with the material would be nice, even if it was only blocks that could be engraved it would be great being able to fill in random mismatched stone clusters and rearrange shit over time but keep your engravings.

Definitely needs it to be added as an improvement on the items used to build OR part of the tile.

>>135603571
>Isn't that the example tile set? Like, the one not meant for actual use?

>>135603583
>He forgot to delete graphics-example.txt or forgot to turn GRAPHICS to NO when he switched tilesets.

Nope this is the tileset I use for all my games since before 42.X

>Merchants have arrived
>22 dorfs
>Population is 24
Why are there so many?

>>135605058
That makes sense.

>>135605372
Yeah, about that.

>>135601878
>Anon design a fortress following mineral veins in DF

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>>135605475

If your X looks longer than your Y you need to rethink ur life

Casual get out REEEEEEEEEEE

>>135606012
I think you think you're responding to someone you aren't responding to.

>>135600182
>implying im not using magma kilns to make my fire clay pots
Shaking my hammer to be honest familia

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>>135600182
>>135606194
>they think burning their dirt makes it better

Is there any reason to want ocean in your world during worldgen? There's no boats or ocean travel, so all that water area is basically just emprty space where no fortresses can be built, no adventurers can travel, no towns or sites can be, etc. Is there a reason I'm missing to want lots of water and islands?

>>135607147
>in order to produce quality ceramics, the clay has to be carefully mixed, tempered and kneaded
>"dirt"
>things non-artisans say
Back to the fields with you, Ben

>>135605372
The dwarf graphics in the screenshot are not from the main tileset, but from the graphics_example.png graphic set in the example folder. Set GRAPHICS to NO or delete the file to get the regular dwarves.

>>135605462
You've been a busy bee.
Migrant wave size is based on created wealth.

>>135608406

I like my munted dwarves tbqh

>>135607552
Coasts can be fun to embark on, and if you have sea creatures in the raws some dwarves will have preferences for them as food, whether or not there are any actually in the world. Other than that, no.

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Got the idea to see how it looked when I just did the same thing I did when I upscaled and trimmed the corners on the curses to reduce the jagged look some, unlike the pure diagonal attempts I tried earlier, this actually fits the style pretty well.

>>135606194
I just love my glass yo.

>>135610079
Also, embarking on the coast of a terrifying ocean is the most /fun/ thing you can do. Ive had many dwarves killed by a zombie sunfish that crawled out of the water.

>>135608059
>if I play with my dirt a lot its better!
>r-really!
If your mixing happens anywhere but a crucible you are working with an inferior material.