/fcg/ - Factorio general

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I didn't know Machine Civilization was on my playlist but I sure am glad it is.

>>135165082
Forgot that WebM for retards should include ShareX, as it records straight to WebM
Am I a shill?

testicles en masse

so yeah blue science setup is literally cancer

so im using bobs mods and cant fucking find the research for the red advanced electronics

>>135166832
>using furry mods

First run with ayys here, are armor piercing rounds worth it or should I suck it up until lasers?

>>135167575
They are better than basic rounds. If you need extra fire power then use them.

I think you also save on iron per dps if you use them but not sure if that's true.

>>135167575
Once you get decent steel production going hell yes, you can put a stack in a turret and it will last forever

>>135165350
>shilling
>for an open source project
that's impossible anon

>>135169001
Nice shill ;_;

But seriously: It's perfectly possible to shill for an Open Source project. Sure people don't have to pay money for it, but there's still prestige to be had when you can say "my software is used by 123456 anons to encode their Factorio videos with."

>>135169284
I doubt the guy cares what it's used for.
Also it's a shame that he's a kebab.

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i found iron

on the far right :^)

>>135169284
i guess, people keep using garbage like gyazo/lightshot that advertises itself etc. though, while sharex/puu.sh only spread through word of mouth

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r8 my science, you can save it for inspo

G'day fellas. Sorry this took so long.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ex0p5k92zpx8hv/EggtorioSupplyDropBackFromVacationEdition.zip?dl=0

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>>135171010
Wonderful.

So if you accidentally connect crude oil to refined oil pipe system you have to replace every single pipe in the whole system.

E P I C
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>>135173287
I load autosave on such occasions.

>>135173287
pipelines are hard, man

>>135173287
REALISM FEATURE

Serb when?

>>135174447
Fun fact.
Oil refineries lose the most money not transporting the oil via pipes, but rather trying to get it out of the pipes

we need some kind of trading in singleplayer, kinda like rimworld has it

>>135169889
How long does it take until the Ayys spread so much? I'm playing vanilla, and I'm currently almost ready to research PowerArmor Mk2, and I just once I saw a single medium sized biter. My four turrents with generic bullets behind a wall never took any damage at all.
Is it supposed to be that way, or am I just lucky?

>>135175987
I have the ayyliens on biggest spread settings, so they have only a few bases but those are massive and grow incredibly fast. It takes quite some time in vanilla until they even become worth looking at. Modded is alot harder

Right now they are still peaceful and never attack, but this will change soon.

i had to build right around their base through the water using the landfill mod. If they ever start attacking me the literally cut my life support, because that Iron deposit is the only one i could find after 2 hours of walking now.

>>135175243
Just light it on fire!

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>plastic factory can't use solid fuel instead of coal
>other stuff like furnaces can use solid fuel instead of coal just fine
Why is this a thing?
It's part of the oil production chain, it would make perfect sense to do it

>>135176813
Because in one case you use coal as a chemical component, and in other as a fuel.

Because in one case you burn that stuff, and in the other case you react it with oil in a specific way to produce plastic. Those have nothing to do with each other, might as well suggest that wood should be usable in plastic production.

>>135175932
There is a mod that lets you buy/sell items on an imaginary market.

SERVER NOW

Mod where you can experiment with rocket fuel (and blow yourself up in the process) when?

>>135176813
Sometimes I question if all that general education was worth it, and then I see posts like this and realize why it must be like this.

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>>135177146
>>135177007
>>135178089
Okay thanks for explaining I'm not an expert on the subject
And I'm sorry for being dumb

>>135178159
It's okay anon, we need people like you.
Gotta have someone to make fun of.

>>135178945
Bully the ayys, not your fellow anons, please!

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Just started playing this, god this is ugly, im starting to understand the automation and that i want to end up having the potions feeding the science machines, ill probably just restart....

>>135165257
>Listening to World Order

Ma brotha from anotha motha

So what's the optimal ratio when it comes to refineries? I always find myself starved of petrol, and I always end up with massive amounts of light and heavy oil. Do I just turn it all into solid fuel or should I pump everything into a few dozen storage tanks?

>>135179390

>restart
>not just tearing it down and optimise it

C'mon anon, there is literally no penalty for tearing a building down.

>>135179390
>ugly
nigga its smooth as fuck 60 FPS animations and looks like fucking C&C back then, pixel art will look good in 2500 years

>>135179593
He meant his factory design is ugly

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HOW MUCH LONGER UNTIL NEXT PATCH
Even FARL can be awkward, I want this rail pathfinding algorithm.

>>135179514
i know, i could do that really easily but i my iron and copper are in such fucked up locations i dont know if its best to just start over on a new world....

Do any of you draw your designs out before you start?

>>135179593
i mean my abomination of factory line.

one of the reasons i bought this was because of that oddly realistic abe's odyssey/command and conquer look.

>>135179514
>I always find myself starved of petrol, and I always end up with massive amounts of light and heavy oil.
A shortage of petgas is easily fixed, provided you have at least one of the other oil fractions.
Research advanced oil processes to unlock cracking, then crack your surplus into petgas.

>ideal ratio
Don't bother trying.
Your consumption will fluctuate, and you must be able to cope with this.
Although enormous storage facilities would work, a circuit-based pump system will allow for automatic cracking.

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>>135179390

>>135179805

>Do any of you draw your designs out before you start?

No?

Just tear shit up and place them down again. Nothing in the game is permanent, you're going to move that mine sooner or later in search of new deposits. Redecorate to your hearts desire, at the start you have nothing to worry about because of non-existant pollution.

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>>135180130
its only getting worse

>>135180356
>Those Steam engines

Goddamn newfags

>>135180270
ok ill be back later when i figure out some of this conveyor belt pathing

>>135180508

You were one too, anon.

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>>135180508
When will they learn to just watch youtube videos, am i right?

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>>135180681
I never was
I knew not to do such fucktarded things right from the beginning

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>>135180356
You should try doing a bus design, where you branch off the main belts like this. Makes everything much better and easier to expand later on.

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>>135180838

I'm sure you did, anon.

I'm sure you did.

>>135180809
>what is tutorial campaign
>what is observation

>>135178089
>organic chemistry
>general education
Pick one.

>>135181014
can i get a day time picture please, i want to see them engine placements, i have no clue what they're running off of.

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>trying to modify your mess of refineries and storages to fit in another refinery
>it's okay I can do it without cross contaminating every single pipe

Honestly, with Bobs Mods this site here is useless
http://factorioblueprints.com/

>>135182504
This is basic knowledge of chemistry. Like absolutely basic. You could go as far as calling it common sense.

>>135177390
wew
basically equivalent exchange for factorio
pretty fucking gay senpai

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>>135183061
Also I should probably plan this out a bit better in the next game.

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>>135182873
It's just coal

>>135179774
uh are they going to include something like farl in 0.13? not sure if i understand your post correctly

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>>135183921
That path was generated through the forest automatically.

>>135183921
They are getting rid of corner rail and adding in a "planner" system where you just click and drag whatever you want your rails to do and it will find the optimal path and pathfind around obstacles.

In that image, the person started at the bottom and then dragged up to the top, the game then pathfound through the forest to the position his cursor is at from where he started.

>>135184257
Is there gonna be something for automated pole and signal laying as well? Would suck if it did just the tracks and nothing else

>>135183521
You don't need to plan things, just think ahead.
It's pretty evident that you just plopped down two refineries next to your first oil wells, thinking it'd be sufficient.
Always assume you'll need room for more.

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>>135184458
No, I'm worse than that.
I only put down one refinery.
Then I added a second one diagonally.
Then I move a bit of a stuff and forced in a third.
This pic is from before placing the third one.

>>135184375
>They are getting rid of corner rail
what corner rail?
do you mean the curved rail?

>>135184794
Whatever, yes they are, they are replacing it with a single rail piece, curved rails will cost 4 rail pieces

Jesus christ you people need to read the friday updates.

>>135185009
Yeah, those posts are great. Always have some thoughts on some technical, or game design problem.

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>>135184704
beautiful

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>look forward to playing Factorio all day
>come home from work
>too tired

>>135185812
bobs mod has a gas venting pump that gets rid of gases that you don't want, in case those 4 hydrogen storages in the middle get full.

>>135186179
Is there a CO2 in this mod? I'd love having a dedicated greenhouse emitting facility.

>>135186179
not in that version(about a year old) and at the bottom there's a chemical plant turning it into solid fuel which i occasionally turn on when it's getting full

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>tfw no velyks-kun to play with you

>>135173287
Can't you just use an electric pump to pump it all in a tank that you then remove

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Don't forget to train harder.

Has anyone of you guys ever had the aliens destroy their entire base, managed to escape and rebuilded?

>>135180356
>>135180508
What is wrong with the steam engine?

>>135173287
just fucking download Rotatable Pipes_1.0.1

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Give it straight to me

Is it shit? this is my third setup because the roboports were asking for more energy than i was producing

>>135191043
you can connect engines to engines but he made boilers for each engine.

>>135191681
Yes, let the water first run completely through the boilers, then to the steam engines. I think 14 boilers to 12 steam engines is a good ratio.

>Steel chest is the highest tier
WHAT

Pretty sure there are mods for this right?

>>135192303
Anything more than 10 engines will run out of water. 1 pump, 14 boilers and 10 engines is the best setup.

>>135191681
that's pretty interesting, do the steam engines atcually get hot enough water this way?
i'd think the first few get cold-ish water when it's under high load

>>135192714
Pretty sure you only need dumb chests for limited-size buffers. And for those initial coal/stone mines.

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>>135191681

Research accidents when? Exploding labs, poisonous clouds, the works. Right now research is too safe.

Wait, if you can put different bottles in different labs, how does that affect research speed? Does a lab with one bottle type in it work n times slower?

What is a good number of logistics/construction bots to have in your system? Do you make a certain number per roboport?

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>>135192303
fug you were right the first two weren't getting the water at 100 but it's fixed now

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How do I into deforestation?

>>135194513
Does deconstruction work on trees?

>>135194513
Use a tank or create a mod that lets you research Agent Orange.

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CAN'T WAKE UP

>>135193919
For research to work in that particular lab, it needs to have all the necessary bottles for that particular research.

>>135194616
Yes it does

>>135194513
Best way is to use robutt deconstruction on it, but poison capsules are really powerful until you get to robutts

>>135194513
COMBAT SHOTGUN
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>>135184257

Jesus Christ that looks beautiful.

Mod or update?

>>135195106
0.13 update

Soon(tm)

heyyyy

So

How do i get Fluids like Processed Oils into assembling machines?

Just put a tube next to it even though it doesnt look like its connected?

Is there any way to burn off light and heavy oil? I don't need that shit and it's cockblocking my petroleum production. Can't I just dump it into the ocean?

>crack it
Fuck that. My bundle of snakes is already complicated enough.

>>135198936
If you set a recipe that needs a liquid the assembler get's an input tube you can connect with.

>>135199158
Put it in tanks
Space is unlimied, run that shit outside your pasta and crack it there

>>135199626
>crack it
B-B-But I don't wanna.

I fucking hate pipes, and setting up a whole additional factory of pipes just to make petgas I don't need is the opposite of ayy removal.

Huge oil fires sound Factorio as fuck, anyway.

>>135192874
>>135192303

Different guy, but do you guys mean:

Pump>boiler>boiler>boiler>ect>engine>engine>engine>ect, in a great big line?

>>135199804
Yes, the boilers need to be one after another, however afterwards you can split of the pipe as much as you want to the engines.

>>135199804
Jawohl.

Think logically, comrade-anon. The water has to be hot before entering the steam engine, so it has to run through the length of the boilers before entering the engines.

However, once through all of the boilers it can be routed however you want.

i feel too safe near water, i want to have swimmers that get alerted when you make sewage waste, then a kraken or a big fish comes as end boss, pushing you to make sea bases and aquatic advances to destroy them.

>there are 2 more upgrades to the blue transport belt
>you actually need them
bob's mod feels like Dragon Ball Z. It's like a constant upgrade of power levels as your production reaches ridiculous numbers.

Do I really have to get a mod to be able to cross water?

>>135200529
>tfw I'm still using yellow belts
>while making purple tech in vanilla
I just don't see the point.
Most of my factory is clogged with raw resources regardless.

>>135200731
You'll want blue belts for your smelters once you start with modules, they'll just eat up your resources
>tfw watching whole copper belts disappear in the hungry stomach of my electronic circuits line

>>135177564
Server When?

Is there any way to get permanently use up Light Oil and Petroleum?
I only need the Heavy Oil but the other 2 are impossible to store and i absolutely dont need them

>>135201902
Cracking, from Advanced Oil Refinement.

>>135199158
>>135199776
Turn into solid fuel. You can burn it instead of coal in your power plants.

>>135202225
1 setup of oil creates an infinite amount of fuel. I have a 25 hour old base which im nonstop building and i cant get rid of the fuel. Thats not a long-term solution

Would it make any sense to remove almost all conveyors at some point and replace them by robots?

>>135202676
In place of water, use any other liquid for your steam engine.
It's highly inefficient in terms of power generation, but very effective at waste disposal.

>>135186021
>found out about factorio 2 days ago
>didn't sleep for ~40 hours
>played factorio instead
>finally feel asleep today
>just woke up
>all I want to do is play more
I love this fucking game.

>>135202676
Just put the fuel assemblers first in line with the heavy and light oils. This assures that the solid fuel generators get first dibs on the byproducts. Then, use the conversion assemblers to turn heavy into light and light into petrol

>>135203510
it doesnt really make sense but its still what i end up doing every single playthrough, along with a gigantic solar panel field

>Making Blue Science with Bobs Mod
4 hours in senpai

This is autism at its finest, the logistics required for this are insane, especially since im not good with base building and the blueprints from that blueprints site dont work with Bobs mods

>>135203968

Why is Factorio so incredibly absorbing? It draws me in like no other game, I've racked up these 55 hours in the last 2 weeks. I can zone in for hours and lose myself until I realise I need to piss so much it's actually painful.

>>135204350
>55 hours
>2 weeks
>not even 120 hours in 1 week

casual

Anyways, the reason its so addicting is because its basically problem solving: the game
Many people get bored super fast, but when they discover a problem with a game or their computer they become incredibly focused on fixing this. No idea why. Factorio basically turned this into a game, constantly thinking about optimizing and finding solutions for new Logistic problems which in the end can be extremely rewarding when it works.

>>135204180
You will have to repeat that about 5 more times. There are like 2 or 3 more tiers of circuit boards to make, and your first module has about the same complexity as blue science from scratch. And then there are 2 more tiers of module circuit boards.
Have I mentioned that all modular armor like power armor is also gated behind speed/efficiency module tech? Better start working on that if you want that personal roboport.

>>135204350
Because there is no stopping point in the game. There are no levels or rounds, the game doesn't end. There isn't a point where you can say "okay, I finished this round, this would be a good time to quit and do something else". Nope, the game goes on and on. Once you finished something you are instantly thinking of the new tech to build, or new expansion you need. This is the true curse of sandbox games.

>>135201902
the easiest way to get advanced oil refining if you are too lazy to set up blue science is to make 75 blue science by hand.

>>135204995
has anyone ever made a base with that?
I seriously need to take a look at something like that to understand it

>>135194513
Grenades are a cheapish early way to remove tree

>zero oil spots before i hit aylmaos
hatred.webm

Is the hellscape serb still up? I wanna get back to killin ayys when I get home from work.

>>135205492
Get them rail tankers up bruh

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Am i the only one that like to make needlessly big and stone consuming but cool looking walls ?

>>135206919
That's like my favorite thing.

I also like over the top gatehouses

>>135207135
example?

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The main problem with bob's mod is that since you need so many types of ores, mining bases kind of lose their meaning. Instead of making a dozen mining bases here and there like in vanilla, it becomes more effective to just push your wall and take over massive parts of the land.

This screenshot is with medium/medium frequency/size settings. As you can see my mines pretty much touch each other. All the ores fields are much closer to each other because of the increased variety of them spawning. I guess I could decrease the frequency, but making wall push like you do in longworlds would probably still be the best.

I think in my next game I will just disable the new ores and use the replicator mod to create the new resources. This means I will need a lot more iron, copper and coal to create the massive power needed for the replicators, but I much prefer the original kind of expansions where you have fewer but larger mining bases.

Also most of the new ores added by the mod are only needed in small quantities, so you end up with a dozen mining bases that you barely even use, because everything you need can be harvested with 2 round trips with a train. Honestly with things like gems it was simpler to just load them into the car and haul it home personally, and that pretty much lasts for the whole game.

>>135206919
nah i like it. gives me an oddworld kind of feeling

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>>135207135
I know right ?
i like to put mines too generaly but i was lazy this time. Going to mass produce them eventually

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>>135191681
Well i used your technique

>>135208102
A proper rail gate is such a beautiful thing, makes the base all hermetic and nice.

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>>135208262

>>135208262
Do you know what is triggering me the most about that?

It's not even the horrible power generation.

It's that red splitter on a yellow belt

>>135207771
Well, to quote the fag from above:
>>using furry mods
You probably should have gone with RSO and be daring at that if you don't like color-vomit maps.

>>135166708
its not even that bad. just take it one step at a time

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>>135208645
>>135208532
i changed it for you

>>135209128
This is only like the third thread of this general and we already have a massively cancerous meme. Can we please drop the furry shit? I honestly don't give a fuck who made the mod.

>>135209625
This
Don't be fags

>>135209128
Of course it's made by a furfag, every autism mod is.

>>135209128
To mod an already autistic game like factorio with more autism requires a degree of autism only seen in furries.
No other being has enough manage the feat

>>135177007
>Because in one case you use coal as a chemical component, and in other as a fuel.
Sure but coal is just lots of carbon a tiny bit of hydrogen some sulfur and a mix of other trace elements.

Coal isn't part of plastic production in the real world and in fact heavy oil production creates a byproduct that's the next best thing to coke as well as plastics.

Plastics shouldn't require coal and in fact should only offer coal as a less desirable option to oil.

That said game balance is the real answer. If you could just use oil after advanced refining coal becomes worthless and can be ignored completely.

Serb up?

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>>135206919
are you me

walls backed by lasers supported by radar dishes and robo repair ports

is anyone down for a 0.21.26 vanilla server?

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I'm losing performance in my steam engines, available performance is pretty high, how am i to make the most of of these engines

>>135214582
They throttle back performance when it's not needed so they don't burn coal needlessly if nothing is consuming the power.
As long as available performance is at max you're fine.

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>>135214582

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>>135214582
Put them all

>>135214701
oh right, thanks.

>>135214714
i honestly didnt know, i thought it was the pressure within the engines that was low

>>135214386
Sure

Dam, went trough the the fast inserter recipe and found it needs actual wood in construction in bob's mods.
Does bob's mods come with some way to automatically harvest wood or is that something you just have to do by hand?

>>135213692
That's a sweet wall, son
Does radar vision prevent the spawning of new ennemy camps btw ?

>>135214982

You can make "synthetic wood" from heavy oil.

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Im pretty scrubby at making facories and havent even made it up to Blue level science shit.

How do my factory plans look? My idea was to have 2 belts, and to have 1 color potion on each half of the belts, and supply the Science as needed.

Its probably incredibly inconvenient or something, but I dont know shit yet.

>>135214945
ok
0.21.26 vanilla server:
62.31.153.25
don't hack me silly boys~

>>135215249
nice loops

>>135215529
>62.31.153.25
Unable to connect, lacking a port maybe?

>>135215814
I can port forward
what port does the game connect to

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these here are an absolute bitch to make
they eat up my basic electronic components like nothing and constantly bottleneck my blue science production

>>135215249

Either troll/10 or give up now/10

>>135215871
Default port is 34197

>>135215954

Thanks for the constructive criticism

>>135215954
What's wrong with it?

Also, if you route oil through a boiler does anything fun happen or does it just not work?

>>135215979
ok, try now

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>>135215249
Too complex for no reason.

>>135216245
Still no luck.

>>135216281
>that belt layout
I was wondering how I should get t3 science to my labs, this will be useful.

also, if you put an open space between every two labs you can use half as many power lines

>>135216383
could you make one?

>>135216520
Power lines are cheaper than land.

Guys, the modded hellscape serb is still up. Just go there.

https://a.pomf.cat/fchpdy.zip

47.223.135.84:34197

>>135216837
oh great, here come the lagfags

>>135216837
It wasn't up when I was trying an hour ago.

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>>135204180
feel free to use this or parts of it
https://imgur.com/a/hCfax
note that this is ~7 months old but the recipes should be similiar. if you have any questions or need more zoomed-in pictures just ask
as for pic related, it's a compact way to get 4 products into an assembler, or 6 if you use the lines at the sides

>>135216837
>>135217373
I normally don't host on weeknights, but I was really into the map, and want to play a bit on it tonight, don't expect it to be up all week. Will definitely be up starting next friday.

>>135218213
Ah alright, wasn't sure what the hosting schedule was.

>>135218213
if this guys download ever finishes

[Can't wake up]

>20MB map at 50k

Wow, map is actually up to like 50MB, that's massive for a factorio map.

>People in planes keep discovering new chunks

>Tons of useless water chunks

wew.

>>135216185
it works and increases the temperature of the oil which is useless unless you want to waste it by burning it in a steam engine

how do you host a server?

I have a pc lying around I can setup as a dedicated server

any mods people would want on it?

>>135218681
pls have decent upstream, as game is paused for everyone while people are downloading maps

>>135216837
please upload the map once you're done i wanna check it out

>>135218681
You should run a vanilla one since the one up right meow is running a bunch of mods, also you should mention where you're hosting.

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>>135218809
pic related

>>135218974
i'm reading the server documentation now (I assume I'll need to actually own the game? I've been playing a pirated version for the past couple days and was planning to buy it tomorrow when I get paid)

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>tfw spend fifteen minuted DLing the map
>finally join
>excited to play factorio with my comrade-anons
>game is laggy as fuck
>factory is already enormous beyond my ability to contribute
>ruining the game for everyone just with my laggy presence
>leave without saying anything
Kill me.

>>135219579
thanks for leaving anon-kun

>>135218213
Hopefully it's still up by the time I have a chance to join, I'm Killin Ayys, and I was really looking forward to continue expanding on that peninsula me and Steel cleared out last night.

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>>135219697
We all make sacrifices.

>>135165082
ayy lmao i hate them

29 Hours into my latest save with Bobs mods and i think im about to give up

It just gets worse and worse, i just started increasing my module research and production and basically have to spend another 5 hours constructing that

i just cant

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>>135171784
Pic of your sister?

>>135178089
It obviously wasn't worth it, as it's not fuckin' working.

>>135221873
The point of the mod is to give you endgame content. So even after you've built everything, you can still make better versions of them.

>>135221873
mix the production for the different modules and sort it out at the end

>>135219247
>>135218974
turns out I didn't have to buy the game

new vanilla dedicated server up and running, address is 4chas.ftp.sh

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>>135224375
also here's the "server" hardware stats. I have no idea what kind of requirements this game has.

>>135214986
I don't think so but it does give me early warning if the apocalypse comes and everything shatters somehow. It also scans the shit out of the surroundings so the map will keep unmasking. The wall itself DOES prevent ayys from getting in once they're completely eradicated from behind it. Technically they need to have a clear pathing line from an existing camp to establish a new camp so this prevents that.

>>135224814
is that an actual dell server?
or just a dell laptop?

>>135224814
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7wfHStzm24

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>>135224375
Lagfag en route. MUHAHAHAHA

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Finally got it up and running

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>>135226165

>>135209625
>This is only like the third thread of this general and we already have a massively cancerous meme.
This meme is an immigrant from other princes of the "Holy" "Vidya" "General" board.

YIFF IN HELL, BOBS MODS PLAYERS!

>>135225221
best commercial I've ever seen

>>135226165
>that science pack transport belt
anon why

>>135225839
>>135224814
>>135224375
laptop was too slow and eventually crashed, should be back up and running correctly now

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Post shitty set ups!

madcat come back

>>135227676
yea you go. so it was me?

>>135180838
>I knew how to play the game to 100% before I played the game
OK. Either lying, or a youtube watching faggot. Either way youre super gay and probably a faggot that kills communities

>>135227937
I think it was neko?

>>135228036
both

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How the fuck do you chat in multiplayer?

>>135227142
im going to just research bota and have them automate it, my set up is ass but works, no space for green pots so i had to cut corners

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>>135227937
it was neko

and now "presstabstart"

>>135228410
maybe it is actually the number of connections?

>>135228401
~

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A moment of silence for our fallen comrades, dobrosNeko (sp?) and presstabstart. May there be a server for you somewhere, even if not ours.

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>>135228402
literally just put a single south-aligned belt where the arrow is and it'll force green science to the other side of the feed probably

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>>135228502
presstabstart here
I don't understand what's going on

>>135228967
>UK
try doing it to NE USA

What's the best way to unload a train onto a conveyor? I'm using a row of chests as a buffer, but it never manages to fully unload the last haul before the next one comes into the station, so my chests will eventually fill up. Tried various conveyor layouts but they always clog up somewhere.

>>135229172
http://www.speedtest.net/result/5168298550.png

>>135228898
What I would do is don't feed the reds into the main belt on that side. Rather, tunnel through and feed them in to the left. That will keep them separated.

>>135227142
>Not hiding a loop in every screenshot

wew

>>135229312
Did you remember to unpause the game?

>>135229312
Use the fastest inserters you can and operate on both sides. Also robutts make it go lightning fast. If you don't have robutts you'll have to just setup a second train stop just after your first one.

>>135229487

>ping 112

There's your problem pal.

>>135229640
I actually don't have a problem unloading the train into chests, but unloading the chests to move the ore into smelting I can't do before the train makes a round trip.

Logistics chests might be the answer but I need to tech into blue science to get them which I haven't done yet.

>>135229569
That'd work too, I just thought the single belt was the easiest fix.

>>135229312
What's the blockpoint, belts not emptying at the other end quick enough or too high density on a single belt?

Could anyone in the UK/Europe set up a vanilla server?

>>135229945
Oh yeah, I couldn't really tell what you meant by "arrow" but you could have the green science packs load onto a downward facing belt I guess. You would probably have to move the other belts in the row one cell down though.

>>135230147
Nah, the point is to aim the inserter at a curved belt since that'll make it insert to the inside of the curve. Putting the new piece north means that the inside corner is the left-hand side of the belt, while red is already entering on the right-hand side.

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>>135229945
I think it's too high density on a single belt. I wound up making this monstrosity to try to help distribute the load a bit better but I don't think it helped.

How the fuck do you deal with a massed horde of green ayys?

No amount of lasers kills them before they at least get through a few layers of wall, and if they have behemoth spitters turrets will be lost as well.

>>135230693
>How do you deal with a massed horde of green ayys?

You don't. Embrace death.

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I hate my country so much.

>>135230582
What's at the other end of the iron belt? Is it moving?

http://imgur.com/a/CxXxd this is handy for trains

>>135231060
It splits off into a few different furnace groupings to get made into iron, though I think most of them have stopped now because I have too much plate iron sitting on the other side of the belts and I'm not using very much of it

>>135229801
What's your current setup look like?

>>135231235
If the belt isn't clearing off at the other end there's basically no way it's not gonna clog up. I know it's not what you're asking, but if you aren't using all the iron you're forging why not change train orders to only run cycles once it's emptied? It looks like that station is only used for iron unloading anyways so it's not like it'd block any other routes.

>>135231856
Yeah I guess that's a good idea for now. I need to focus on getting more coal quick anyway before my power goes out.

>>135231741
I'm dumb.

>>135231235
>>135230582
That may be your problem to be honest. You're not using your iron plates fast enough. Make more shit

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after playing for a few days, and then watching arumba's first few vids, guess where i am on the graph

he tripled my power output in about 10 seconds remarking "one less thing to worry about, right"

What's the point of personal gear when anything but tanks and turret creeping is worthless against even mid-game ayy bases? You just can't kill big bugs fast enough.
Even bob's mods' overpowered bullets are not good enough.

You know you're getting lazy when you seriously consider just dropping another requester chest for iron plates instead of walking to the other side of the base and placing the building next to your iron plate belt.

>>135230987
sorry anon-kun : (

Can someone explain how to bus?
I see the pictures, they look great, incredibly efficient etc., but I just don't get how.

>>135234534
why not just use the personal requester?

Is the Hellscape server down?

>>135218213
Is this still up?

>>135235285
I wanted to build rockets, which needs iron plates. I considered just requesting all 3 materials for rockets, rather than placing the factory next to the iron plates bus so the robots only have to move 2 of the mats.

What happens if I kill all the enemy hives around my base?
Will it take longer for the further away enemies to attack? Ie. will it make the game more boring?

>>135234954
Just figure out what resources you need all over the factory, and go two blank -> two belts -> two blank -> two belts -> etc. The blanks are so you can split, turn around, and go under the other buses.

So you might do:
Iron Plate
Copper Plate
-
-
Steel
Electronic Circuit
-
-
Advanced Circuit
Processing Unit

Anything else you can just manufacture off the main bus (gears, inserters, etc.) and keep near other factories that will be using it. Once you get to logistic robots, things like engines or solar panels can be moved quickly without worrying about a bus, but for the basic stuff, you're going to want extreme throughput.

How do i take screenshots in game? Like my whole base

>>135236790
I should add that you make sure the back end of your main bus (the side the bus is "flowing from") is clear and accessible, because later in the game you can manufacture bused items off-site and bring them in by train. You can easily connect the trainyard to your main bus and greatly increase your throughput, freeing up space in the main factory for higher tier manufacturing. It's a nice feeling to have express belts clogged even as you produce hundreds of items per second with them.

>>135236332
They'll come back eventually. Technically it makes the game harder since they increase in strength everytime you kill a structure. I wouldn't dunk an alien base though unless you're ready to take over their area or otherwise secure it.

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>>135236790
There is no need to leave empty places. If you want to split off, you just make the rest of the belts go underground.

I don't understand the purpose of the inserter. Why can't your rollers just feed directly into a chest or machine?

this game is stupid.

>>135236790
>He wastes dozens or even hundreds of tiles on empty space

>>135237417
get the screenshot utility mod
set size to 4000x4000, zoom to 0.5

>finally had enough extra resources to build a tank and some shells
>tfw finally killing large camps that have been annoying you for hours and hours

Is this it? Have I made it?

>>135239323
inserters can be made to grab very specific things off of a belt
to do that with a belt, you need quite a bit of space to separate items

>>135239523
What is your bitter evo? Pushing with laser turret and distractors helped me a lot also combat shotgun, no tank though

>>135228898

Gr8 b8 m80

>>135239695
I was getting medium and big biters every now and then, but I couldn't go out and kill the camps because I was spending a good amount of resources just defending myself

>>135239695
>pushing with laser turret
This is what I eventually did. Just slap a substation down within firing distance and spam some upgraded turrets, advance, repeat. Feels cheesy as fuck, though.

>>135240245
This is what I did for my vast empire. It might be cheesy but fuck ayyys. There's not really a practical way to handle them otherwise, and you can still fuck up if you're not careful.

Big poles are useless. They actually cover less area than medium poles

>>135241530
This is b8 but I'm replying anyway. They're for carrying power long distance not powering individual objects. They have a connection range to each other of 2-3x the medium pole's length.

>>135241712
Does it have to be big/big? Or can you go big/small?

>>135241712
>bated

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I spent hours researching the most effective facility and after many attempts i reached this point

Can you find the loop though :^)

>>135242914
medium and small poles only extend as far as their range usually allows, as they would connect with similar poles

>>135242914
Has to be big to big for the long distance connection, once you get to your destination you can put a small or medium or even a substation right next to it and then go about powering everything as normal

>>135242986
>This
>The most effective facility
>A single blue pot maker
>a single blue circ maker
>a single red circ maker
>a single refinery
triggered

>>135242914
You can mix any of them up, but the shortest line distance of the two is the one used.

>theres a general for motherfucking factorio
holy shit
welcome to the best game ever everyone
shipping container / freight / cargo ship / shipping yard mod W H E N

>>135242986
the fuck is going on with your sheet iron

>>135243292
Oh ok, I assumed it would use the line distance from the bigger pole

>>135243324
boats fucking never

>>135243283
You can save it for inspiration ;)

>>135243386
I'm going to cut the iron splitter on the left and bring it from somewhere else (i have another set up above), i'm using more than i'm making

>>135243324
liquid hauling train car in next update

You know what would be cool? Assembly modules. You load them with a recipe and then put them into an assembler, and it will act like a mini assembler and load the machine it's built into. Can make gears or wires directly inside the assembly machine that way or maybe even let you smelt ore directly inside the assembler with a smelting module.

Obviously it should be slower or more limited than a real assembly machine, but I think it could be something that could be worked into certain types of builds.

>>135243657
cranes and shipping containers that are
detached from train cars or bust

>>135243704
I don't get it, do you mean one assembler to do the full chain up to a single item?

>>135243835
I mean basically an "assembler" that sits in a module slot. It can be loaded through inserters as if they were loading the machine it's built in, and anything it produces is feeded directly into what the module is inserted in. (It won't operate if the machine can't take what it produces.)

>>135243606
Not that, the bit in the middle with four different inserters. It looks like you're long inserting them from belt into a chest, inserting from the chest to the ground on /top/ of a long inserter, inserting from the top of that inserter onto a belt, and then long inserting from that belt onto another belt which has a splitter and is straightforward from there. But you're also pulling the sheet iron into a gear manufacturer? I dunno how the fuck that's being sourced.

Quick, give me quality engineering music.

>>135243905
So a sub-assembler? Like I'd have one of them that makes gears and I'd put that in an inserter machine so you just put in even more iron and the gears the sub-assembler module makes just get fed automatically in?

>>135243987
>>135243606
Also there's a loop in the water piping from the northwest exit from the sulphur processor back to its northeast entrance but it shouldn't flow that way anyway.

>>135243987
A U T O M A T I O N
get on my level :^)

>>135243905
So you want a module that defeats the entire challenge of the game?

>>135244082
Look up "Industrial dance" on youtube.

>>135244219
I'd love to but the resolution is shit and I can't actually be certain about the alignment on any inserters.

>>135181014
>you can use splitters to get the same item on both sides of the belt
I should just uninstall this game. I'm too dumb to play it.

>>135244338
Alright real talk though my setup is shit but i will take another screenshot for you, circle the part you are saying

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>>135244672

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>>135244989
Here's another one

>>135244082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9wbDMsOwIo

>>135245437
Alright yeah I still don't understand this. Rightmost yellow pulls from chest and deposits on top of red. Middle yellow /looks/ like it pulls from on top of red to left conveyor, but if you want the metal plate on the ground in the middle then it needs to pull bottom to top. But then how the fuck does left conveyor get populated? I also don't know what the fuck is going on with the inserter moving advanced circuits, it looks like it's moving from left to top? That's not how inserters work though so ???

Reminder there's a vanilla serb running at 4chas.ftp.sh. Just getting oil going right now.

How to kill ayys

Modular Armor + 1-2 Personal Roboports + 20 construction robots

Bring 200 Repair Packs, a deconstruction planner, a ton of Big Electric Poles, and slightly more laser turrets than you intend to build

Then create a blueprint with a Big Electric Pole in the middle and 5 Laser Turrets in a C shape around it.

Use Big Electric Poles up until you get in range of an ayy hive, then place your blueprint at the extent of your personal roboport range. Use multiple if needed. Then creep up while deconstructing the previous firebases and placing Big Electric Poles where needed to maintain connection.

>>135246626
>clients downloading map

why did i post this

>>135244082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h8ilDUhfAU

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>>135247013
I had no Idea STALKER had such a nice soundtrack.

>>135247009
someone should add in op that if your map download time exceed 2 mins, they should just quit

eurofags pls stop trying to connect

Thanks for crashing the server Ayy :^)

gg, server went down as I was expanding science.

It wasn't meant to be.

>>135165082
I don't think I like this game.

It flies in the face of everything nanotechnology stands for. Why on earth would you centralise everything like that? All this does is make production MORE labor intensive...

This game actually seems more like an advanced case of schizophrenia.

>>135247627
nanomachines is just another word for wussymachines

>>135244082
NIN's Ghosts album is my favorite

if it's taking you this long to download a 3 mb map, just kill yourself.

>>135247225
Not going to lie, Combat Theme 2 fits Factorio quite well. The industrial notes combined with the rock music just makes me think of killing ayyys against a background of factories and smokestacks. Have another while I'm at it, slightly more upbeat-ish. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrjECcaUZUo

>>135247253
>>135247009
server host here

on top of the ridiculous map loading times, if you don't have a decent upload speed (like 10Mb or better) to philadelphia then the game is going to lag like shit after you join because every players game needs to be synchronized at all times

>>135247551
it's back up

>>135247949
b-but it said 50 secs left

>>135247913
Fuck, I remember downloading that for free from somewhere awhile back, then deleted it to clear space up. Never even listened to it.

>>135248126
10mb is *decent* upstream?
fuck, if i had 10mb downstream i'd be ecstatic

>>135248141
you fucked it for us test.

>>135248302
dude from the UK has 3 and was lagging bad

>>135248347
fml
we poor, poor ausfags

You know what would be cool?

A game where you play as somebody trying to destroy the factories instead of building them. Like you play a pack of critters that is trying to tear down a huge automated clusterfuck using only thier teeth and claws.

>>135248309
Sorry, m8

>>135248407
if you can run the game, you can host, just need to find people nearby to play with

>>135248476
ok fair enough, ty for the heads up

>>135248434
Where were you connecting from? The serb's coming back up btw.

Like, what if the goal of the game was to CAUSE more pollution, to despoil the land and cause human misery? Then you have player antagonists who try to come and fuck everything up while an overseerer tries to eliminate them?

Nope. Just stay away test, everytime you connect it brings the server down.

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>>135248126
I wish I had more upload. Charter doubled our download for free 2 years ago but the upload has been the same for forever.

>>135248837
already quit, sorry guys
hope you enjoy game

>>135248990
Thanks m8. Sorry it didn't work out.