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>EO Guides, References, Music, Art Books, etc.
http://pastebin.com/6cmH2LjS

>EOV Information
http://sq-atlus.jp/sq5/
https://mega.nz/#!SghiWI6J!SyUwZs2X9oLHP-rfmVvF_j0QjeI1lA2HSrU4C6qs0eY (Nico stream)

>EO2U Grimoire Collection
http://pastebin.com/uTt9sWvf

>EO2U Recipe + Advertisement
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Bh2wEBRjhpqPpTfZA5jIclHpE1ZXHzYtUeoS7nQO4jM/edit#gid=37367097

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>>134828307
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>>135151787

>lewd OP

Careful. As much as necromoe being cute, you might just trigger someone.
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>>135151878
It made sure the image was not R18. It should be fine.
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>>135152435
Not as cute as Ricky
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In EO3, does it matter who initiates the combo?

Like, the cross slash, if I initiate it with a gladiator, will it do more damage than if I initiated it with a zodiac?

And the damage is based on everyone who participates?
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>>135139409
>sovereigns

>>135151878
Even better
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Which EO game is the best and why?
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>>135157506
4 and because it was my first.
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>>135157506
>thumbnail
Mine might be wrong as well
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>>135157556
this is exactly what I was going to post

2u as a close second because I came to the general during the release and had fun
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>>135153834
pls respond

also this game seems a bit easy to break, a team of 5 farmers can get so much money through foraging
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>>135153834
It's been some time since I played III, but I'm pretty sure the damage depended on the character you used. I definitely remember that buffs and charges could improve the damage from things like Lucky Hammer.
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>>135158782
>a team of 5 farmers can get so much money through foraging
It's like that in every game that's not IV. Things cost a shitton of money in III, though.
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Does the EO5 Nico Stream have what each class does (and subbed)? I'm wondering if the Necro and Hound are gonna be 6th slot characters.
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>>135159716
Summons get their own type of new slot and its not the 6th.
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>>135159836
Ooh that's cool. I guess I'll download the stream later. thanks.
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>>135159909
Just watch the youtube video of the stream
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>>135158864
hmm thank you

what classes should be on the front row in EO3? Gladiator, Hoplite, Monk and maybe Prince?
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>>135160792
G, H, and P are all good on the front. Monk only belongs up there if you're using them to attack.
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>>135159836
We haven't seen more than 2 summons at a time, right? It looks like there could be more space up there, but I wonder if that's the max.
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>>135160792
There's also shogun and bucanneer if you run with swords.
And arbalist in the case of front mortar
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>>135161134
Should you use an arbalist with front mortar unless you have a hoplite to baby it?
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>>135161183
Or a P/H. They're not hopelessly squishy, but it's a good idea to have some kind of defense.
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Quick, is the story in Untold 2 as ridiculously shit and boring as in Untold 1? Should I just go classic mode?
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>>135161065
Considering EVERYTHING that necromancer does requires a Ghost. I wouldn't be surprised if we could have up to at least 3 and max 5 summons up.
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>>135162954
It falls apart at the end.

For classic mode, it's contradictory and the whole Ginnungagap part nonsensical.
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>>135162954
It stays fun until around after 3rd stratum. After that it feel like everything becomes a bit more forced. But I still enjoyed it.
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>>135162954
Classic gives you everything Story has, except for Fafnir. So make your decision based on which classes you feel like using.
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>>135162954
It's better than EO1U story mode but not by much.
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>>135152435
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How do I Yggdrasil core in 2U? Story Mode party, lvl 60. Can't take an Armageddon.
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>>135166167
Rush it down. When you take down both irae and odium, set up for as long as you need and then go all out (even if he revives those irae, as long as he doesn't put up the mental barrier you can damage the core). Don't be shy to use the offensive breaks when the counter gets to 1, it's not like you'll get to a second force boost.
And leave Bertrand's force boost untouched, just in case that isn't enough and you need to use his force.
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Playing EO2U in classic mode. Can i just skip Guningagap? It's boring, the design is awful, monsters are meh, music is bad
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>>135166996
Fuck off Teachfag
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>>135167295
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To the guy from last night that wanted to use Google's all to translate EO stuff: Watch out, the app is mostly shit and more often than not will fail to recognize all the characters unless they're huge and black with a white background.
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>>135168250
*app

Whoops.
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>>135157506
EO1 because it was my first and it was literally nine years ago so it's as embedded into my nostalgia as any childhood game would be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6C9hM6Daos

But actually EO3 is probably the best

>>135166996
It's totally optional in Classic Mode. But actually I liked Ginnungagap more than the rest of the game. Especially with the FM synth music on. It felt like a EO Wizardry crossover or something.
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>>135166996
>It's boring, the design is awful, monsters are meh, music is bad
mmmm... okay?
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>>135090473
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WW0GEotp2M
This will always be my favorite EO song. It's sad, bittersweet, but has that slight uplifting hopeful turn towards the end. A lot of people skip over it for songs like cherry tree bridge or whatever but for me it's an underappreciated gem. It was my favorite part of my EO1 playthrough when my redhead Landsknecht girl decided she had to become stronger to protect all her comrades, so I sent her solo down into the dungeon, and she wandered on that one giant wide open endless wasteland floor for days, overcoming all the trials and finally coming back worn, dusty, and brimming with power.
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>>135170879
I love that song and the 2nd Stratum song.
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>>135170879
>my redhead Landsknecht girl decided she had to become stronger to protect all her comrades, so I sent her solo down into the dungeon, and she wandered on that one giant wide open endless wasteland floor for days
Oh, like that other landsknecht from that quest which died alone for being foolish enought o do that?
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>>135172409
Some survive.. some fall.. the Labyrinth shall judge the resolve of those with the courage and strength to brave her depths.
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>>135172409
That loser ran axes
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fuck me
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>>135174783
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>>135151787
Is that really a proper attire for a young lady to wear in the labyrinth?
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>>135174783
FIGHT FOR GLORY
Anyways, were there even that many FOEs on that floor?
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>>135175041
It's fine, the boots offer enough protection against whatever she can step on.
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Wait a minute...
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>>135176770

>tin-can instead of autist girl

You have a problem with meat magus, you teachfag?
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>>135176770
I don't have a slowpoke pic saved so have this instead
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>>135177109
But autist girl has nothing.
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>>135177145
>>135176770
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>>135177265
Great, now I have to listen to that song again.
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>>135170879
I like it a lot but this one is still my favorite to relax https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VxCm2JcKug
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>>135177245
He's talking about the autistic loli from Story mode.
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>>135177245
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>>135177245
u wot m8?
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>>135177245
Why is she so lewd?
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>>135178260
She knows how to use those tubes on youwith no lube
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>>135178526

Tell me more.
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How are your adventures in the labyrinth going today, /eog/?
I just beat Ren and Tlachtga.
Post you guilds, if you want to.
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Wait wait.. so EO5 has 4 different races? And each race has 4 different portraits per class?
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>>135179347
Except there's only one race for each class.
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>>135179427
Oh, damn. So the classes are divided between the races? Guess I shouldn't have gotten my hopes up.
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>try EOU story mode
>it nonchalantly spoils the twist within the first half hour

Fucking why? Wasn't the story for bringing newcomers to the series? Why would they purposefully do that to new players? The worst part is that the game feels like it still wants to to be surprised when you reach the fifth stratum and the huge reveal about that certain character.
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>>135180858
Wants you to be surprised*

My bad.
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I don't understand elemental attacks, in EO3, Breakfire Fist is both strike and fire elements? So it hits for effective in both weaknesses? And Blitzritter is both pierce and thunder?
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>>135180858
It only spoils the twist if you've already played EO1.
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>>135176770
In addition, the Eyepatch Buccaneer has a Raiho on his eyepatch if you look closely at the official art.
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>>135180858
>spoils the twist
Only a retard would expect the same twist twice. This time, the twist is something else.
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>>135181149
No, it doesn't, because modern/slightly more advanced technology than today is seen as ancient technology in old ruins, and Ontario still exists but is now a monarchy. Anyone with a brain can piece together what this means. On story mode, that stuff is presented at the beginning for world building purposes so players just come to accept that as part of the world. At the same time, it's still presented as a surprise in the fifth stratum for some reason.
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>>135181484
Yes it does. Newcomers that choose story mode won't know about the obvious twist of the original, they're just gonna get told about a different story, presented in a different way, because, holy shit man, that's the whole point of story mode!!! who would have guessed, right?

Stop being a retard thinking everyone knows all about the series they're just getting into.
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>>135181484
I guess every character in Fire Emblem is from Italy then.

retard
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>>135180858
Because this time they had something else to stand on other than this shitty twist.
Plus...
>>135181484
Even with Ontario there was no firm evidence to claim it was the same world. Specially since absolutely nobody in the game other than the two people who were alive back then had the faintest idea of what the world was like a thousand years ago.

Moreover, was it REALLY supposed to be a twist in EOU? Ricky already knew how it would look so there was no surprise to her. The other ones knew nothing, so they would react in exactly the same way to that as they would do to some rainbow-colored cyber-dungeon or the hallways of Laputa.
This isn't the Planet of the Apes. There's no outsider here that later learns he wasn't such other than the player himself, which is rendered null because this time there's another story to tell.
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>やるしかねぇな
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>>135183063
translate it weeb
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>>135183178
"Looks like I have no choice", roughly.
Imagine it in Nakata Jouji's voice, and you have an EO5 livestream meme.
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>>135181017
If you use an attack with two or more elements, the game will only use the element the enemy's weakest to for damage calculations. If you use Breakfire against an enemy that's weak to strike and immune to fire, the enemy will be weak to the attack.
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>>135183364
I swear I keep hearing this guy's voice instead of Nakata's.
How do I fix my ears?
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>>135183364
>tfw law-abiding, game-buying Americans and Europeans won't get Nakata lolis
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Are wildlings even good? Summons cost so much TP
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>>135183649
Does Atlus not do japanese vocals for their english versions these days? Man, to hell with that.
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>>135183680
Yes, they're great
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>>135183680
Only for primal drums. Their summons are a waste of the sixth slot.
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>>135183727
I don't think they've done that.
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>>135183727
They almost never have. In general, the only times when they had Japanese audio is when the game was so niche and the audio licensing fees were so cheap that they went Japanese audio-only, like with Tears to Tiara and Dungeon Travelers 2.

The Odin Sphere remake has it, but presumably because the original game did. Arena had it and dual text, but it was region locked because it came out two weeks after the Japanese version. Ultimax had dual audio in battle because of online, but that was it.

Atlus recently did a poll on dual audio that got so many responses they closed it in like four hours, but we don't know the results, nor have we gotten any games yet that the data could influence.
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>there are people in this thread, right now, whose first game was eo4

how fucking casuals
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>>135184820
>There are people in this thread whose first dungeon crawler wasn't Wizardry.
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>>135178995
Just realized, with EOV's color customization it's going to be near impossible to share authentic images of our parties without straight up screenshotting our 3DS. Maybe some enterprizing jap developer could make a webapp for this kind of thing.
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>>135183680
You get that TP back with dismiss though. They are awesome but need loads of skill points to become so.

>>135178995
Front row Troub?
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>>135184820
The first game that I can remember playing was Blaster Master, not sure what that has to do with EO though.
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>>135184820
>There are people trying to pass themselves off IN THIS VERY THREAD as hardcore players, despite never 100%-ing a game
>There are people in this thread who use floor jumping and ariadne threads

>>135184993
MS Paint's always there to save the day.
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>>135184820
So fucking what?
my first one was eo1, but seriously, so fucking what?
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>>135185135
>projecting this hard

how cute, an eo4 babby just got mad
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>>135185165
>getting triggered by shitposters
It was a skin thickness test and you failed.
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>>135185217
First game was I, mate. It was also my first RPG.
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>>135184820
if i met someone whose first game ever was eo4 i'd be more impressed than anything desu
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>>135184820
EO4 made me aware that the series existed, but i started with the DS games
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>>135184820
I live in a small town. Game stores here never stock the more niche games. Only reason I even found out about EO was the demo for IV on the eshop.
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>>135185135
>There are people in this thread who use floor jumping and ariadne threads
Yeah, true explorers use warp wires.
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>>135184820
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>>135185762
True explorers give their warp wires to squirrels
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>>135185019
I like doing a bit of extra damage when my party is low on TP.
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>>135185864
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>>135185135
>there are people who look up conditional drops
>there are people who use pre-made parties
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>>135185986
B..b..but they use bows? Frontline medic has long been a thing, as has putting a fragile duder up front. But Troubador just seems such a weird choice. Power to you I guess though. Hope you're enjoying the game's best bit.
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>>135183063
>>135183364
>>135183649
It's good to see so much Nakata appreciation.
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>>135185864
i wonder who's behind this post
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>>135184820
Beats the slew of EO3 pirates
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>>135186240
Troubs can use swords, but there's usually not much reason to give them one unless it raises TEC or TP by a significant amount, and Staves are usually better for that.
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Are the books in EO3 unique items? Or can I get an unlimited amount of them to get all the stats to 99 later on?
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>>135187590

You can farm FOEs for them.
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>>135187590
Unlimited, they are FOE drops
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>>135187691
>>135187676
I imagine it's a good reason to save these folmaldehydes, then?
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>>135187810

Nah, you'll get a Limit skill later that guarantees all enemy drops if you kill an enemy with it.
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>>135186240
They can use staves and swords too, you know. And when it come to real damage I use them for elemental attacks since the rest of my party does fine without them.
I understand it's not the most effective party layout in the world, but it's not like he dies more than the others.
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>>135186268
I just recently started paying attention to Japanese VOs. What's a good show with Nakata in it?
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>>135188585
>VO's

Here's a tip: I personally don't give a shit about what word you use, but if you want to talk about Japanese voice actors on /a/ or Japanese centric threads in general, call them Seiyuu or else people will yell at you.
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>>135188446
Oh, and yes, Lost Shinjuku is great.
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>>135188585
Machine-doll wa Kizutsukunai
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>>135188864
Does it really get that bad? Seiyuu easily translates to voice actor. Is it just because people don't want to be even remotely associated with VAs in other languages?
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>>135189083
In /a/ or some weeb thread, maybe. Don't use that seiyuu shit here.
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>>135189156
>He says, in an anime inspired DRPG thread
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>>135189083
That's partially the reason, yeah.
There's also that many people interested in seiyuu watch and listen to radio shows, streams and the like which are evidently in Japanese and thus will hear "seiyuu" as the profession over and over again.

>>135189156
>or some weeb thread
Good thing we're in one.
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>>135189418
I really fucking hate Japan and their fucking seiyuu culture.

EOV has more people interested there just because the voices, not because the gameplay.

Damn you Japs.
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>>135189794
They're like actors to them, I don't see the issue
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>>135189794
>EOV has more people interested there just because the voices, not because the gameplay
It's pretty much the new feature. Everything else we know for now is pretty much the standard of the series.
You could argue that there's also class ultraspecialization and race skills, but those have been discussed to hell and back as well with what very little we have.

Moreover, voices are the only feature in danger of suffering Atlus USA's bullshit.
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>>135181484
>"Ontario"
>"Oh, a joke about Canada, haha okay"
Maybe if she'd said she was from "a city built on the ruins of an ancient province known as Ontario" it would have ruined the real twist, but as it is, traveling through the ruins of Shinjuku was still shocking.

Untold wasn't my first EO game, so I barely registered the presence of ancient technology. I'll grant that it might have been more obvious to someone mulling over the past civilization while they made references to places like Ontario.
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Cute
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>>135188585
Hellsing Ultimate. You also get Wakamoto in that as a villain, and they both ham it up tremendously.
He is the priest in Fate/Stay Night and Zero, as well as various other Type-Moon works.
In Tamayura he plays the photoshop owner, and the restaurant owner in Working!!
You can look through these for more info.
http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Joji-Nakata
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=1030
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Why do people say EO3 is the best?
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>EOIII was on the seas
>EOIV was in the skies

What will be EOV's travelling method?
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>>135198073
speaking of EO3, I just understood that there are multiple endings to it

which ending order is it best to get? what does promising Olympia to keep the secret change?
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>>135198286

Segways.
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>>135198286
Caravan.
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>>135198286
Teleportation
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>>135199030
Teleportation panels
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>>135198286
>What will be EOV's travelling method?
Ellipsis
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>>135198290
pls respond, is there any difference in the endings? aside from story? is one harder than the others?
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>>135200247
True ending has a harder final story bossfight. Which is mandatory for filling the monstrous codex & item conpendium.
Also, each ending (excluding true ending) unlocks a new class.
Personally I'd say to play any ending, followed by the other ending followed by the true ending.
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>>135200247
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>>135200509
>Also, each ending (excluding true ending) unlocks a new class.
If you go for the true end first you will unlock the yggdroid class.
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>>135200669
No you won't. You can ally with either Armoroad or The Deep City and still get the true ending.
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>>135200509
ah, think I will go for the ending that gives me the shogun class then, cause it seems fun

btw you can start a ng+ file to get the other endings, right? do you keep your characters at their levels?
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>>135200948
Yes you do. In the later games you can choose what to bring over, I'm not sure if you can in EO3. Keep in mind though, that quests can only be completed once between all games. Once a quest is completed it's gone for good - or until you start an entirely new game.
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>>135201157
>that quests can only be completed once between all games

why would this be a problem, though?

I'm guessing that in following playthroughs you can just rush through all floors real quick to get the other endings?
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>>135201309
Yes, but you have to reopen all shortcuts.
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>>135201309
Yeah, you can do. It can just make raising a new party a pain when you don't have the extra XP coming in through quest completion.
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>>135201309
Wanting to have more than one party. Wanting to experience the full game more than once.
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i'm playing untold 2 and there's no more quests i can accept and the only one i have going is the princess piece which i can't turn in
someone told me to beat ur child and there will be more quests, but i did that and there's nothing
what do?
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>>135202687
Talk to the people in the bar, I think you have to do that even after you get the last piece necessary for Princess.
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>>135202817
oh, i forgot about that
was that the last quest? the only ones i see are the dlc stuff
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>>135203350
Look on your guild card, and see if you have the medal for finishing all quests. Have you done the dragon quests?
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>>135203660
yeah, that was the last one
finally i am done with story mode
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>>135203983
>mfw stormed through storymode and stopped as soon as NG+ became avaliable
>mfw the gallery isn't complete

I'd better still be able to get a 100% to show up on my guild card.
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>>135199138
Floor jump
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>>135204503
>I'd better still be able to get a 100% to show up on my guild card.

EOU1 or EOU2? if you are talking about the first one then HAHAA
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>>135157506

EO4 because the world feels so grand and the character building system is intuitive & allows for more interesting and balanced builds than in 1-3. Also best music

2 is my second favorite though
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>>135157506
Persona Q because fusions.
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>>135206579
Shitposting is against the rules
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>>135206723
Fusions are fun.
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>>135206723
Teach is fun
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>>135206990
I want to rape teach
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Which subclass is good for every class in EO3?
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>>135208178

REAR GUARD
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Is there a collection of Chloe's voice clips anywhere? I was hoping to find something on youtube, but there's nothing.
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>>135208916
Skun, is that you?
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Holy fuck. I'm replaying EO4 and I forgot how absolute shit Snipers were
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>>135209230
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>>135209064
I will convince you that she is the best character, dammit
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>>135209230
Snipers are pretty great if you know how to use them. Its easy to call a class shit when you use it the wrong way. Medics are so shit (at dps), Arcanists are so shit (at healing), Imperials are so shit (at consistent dps).
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>>135210058
First boss fight. Spam arm bind until it runs out of TP and don't land it once.
Meanwhile an arcanist can land binds on multiple enemies with more consistency
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>>135210208
>needing to bind arms to win
Git gud, my first try was tough too, then I realised poison and three nightseekers fuck him up REAL good.
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>>135210553
Is there anything that 3 of the most broken class doesn't fuck up real good?
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>>135210553
>Snipers are great if you know how to use them

>Just don't use them; use 3 Nightseekers instead

Thanks?
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>>135210694
Three imperials aren't that great without good support against the big bug.

>>135210696
Binds work with good consistency if you level them up good enough.
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>>135209230
>>135210208
Snipers are fantastic Link chasers, plus they have some handy non-typed damage. I never got much use out of mine for binds, though.
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>>135210208
>>135210553
Wait, you can lose against that boss?
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What's the objectively STRONGEST party on EOIV?
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>>135212000
Five dancer/bushis.
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>>135211017
>Imperials the most broken
I still don't get why you guys love this meme so much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wAoMK6Yz28
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>>135210208
>binds
there's your mistakw
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>>135212083
For chase shenanigans I presume? I have a linkshark and a chase dancer and it's bonkers.
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>>135212315
I like the beat dance brigade to make the bug superboss easy peasy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyKrrG2sB5Y
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realistically, how long do you think we'll have to wait after EOV comes out in japan?
i might be being to naive but maybe in time for the holidays?
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>>135214065
February something 2017
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>>135214065
It'll be out in america in january.
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I have a Hoplite, Buccaneer, Prince, Zodiac and Wildling

Which subclass should I set for each of them?
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>>135214065
>>135214284
Actually im retracting that, it'll be out in april due to voice acting taking up a lot of time. January if no voice acting, pril if voice acting.
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What would be the absolute coolest thing you could add to etrian odyssey that doesn't have to do with mechanics/gameplay at all exclusively stuff related to the story or setting that you receive in conversational dialogues
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>>135214480
everybody as ninja
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>>135214480
Off the top of my head:
Hoplite/Zodiac or Ninja
Don't know about Bucc, never used one.
Prince/Monk (other way around is much better)
Zodiac/Ninja
Wilding...
Wilding is the worst class, not only in EO3, but in the entire series.
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What boss attack archetype do you hate dealing with the most?

>it's a boss that stands ready on a turn just as you set up all your chases and counters every attack
FUCK
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>>135214913
dating sim :3c
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>>135215136
Dating sim is gameplay
bad gamplay
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>>135214913
Hidden quests that no one would ever think to look for that give you OP gear, or alternatively, an extremely long questline that give you an IOU at the end, where the IOU is an alternative new game plus that gives a different storyline altogether.
Alternatively >>135215136
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>>135215041
Isn't it Ninja/Zodiac the good combo instead of the other way around?
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>>135215087

>Bosses that get free moves

Expect more of that shit in EOV, along with field effects.
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>>135215289
If you make your back row Z/N N/Z Z/N you get free nukes.
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>>135215087
This is only really bad if it doesn't fall into some kind of set pattern (ie. Every fifth turn).
Mirror shield, or whatever it's called makes the Blizzard Dragon a complete piece of shit to fight.

>>135215348
Field effects are fine. I don't understand why people hate them so much
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>>135214913

Kazoo mode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ww5hUMN8KI
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>>135215468
but what do you achieve by subclassing a Zodiac with ninja?
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>>135214480
Your team makeup is.. messed up because the 6th slot is critical for a few things.

Wildling is the worst class in the series and the brave few who do use it, generally go Wildling/Ninja, only to Otori the Tiger for massive counter attacks. If you continue down the Wildling path it will be used as a Drumbot for random battles and the tiger/otori combo is heavy on the TP until late/mid game.

Hoplite/Ninja shines, double line guards, double element guards, etc. but the whole 6th slot thing.

Prince/Monk, however Monk/Prince is stronger with healing.

Zodiac is also fairly weak, but with Zodiac/Bucc for quicker Limits, you can put out great burst damage with the right element Limit and Ether Charge.

Buccaneer is.. I dunno I never used them.
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>having a little trouble with flame demon
>go to look up a guide
>people are beating it at level 25~
>party is level 40

fuck
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>>135215685
Cloning your Zodiac mainly. Dodging is nice too.
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>>135215486
>Field effects are fine. I don't understand why people hate them so much
Because Arachne's was pretty much a shitty "ress not allowed"
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Dragoon looks cool.
He might be the first gun using class I put in my party.
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>>135215685
One Ethers, the other spams meteor.

This one playthrough I had a zodiac/ninja, and a princess/zodiac. princess attack orders the zodiacs, and zodiacs went to town with free meteors. was neat but required a specific makeup
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>>135215041
>>135215789
I miss when beast was the worst.

>>135215829
It has a very exploitable pattern afterall.
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>>135215254
>Dating sim is gameplay
>bad gamplay
ugly and mean anon
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>>135215861
I never had a problem with Arachne and I played that game through 3 times on expert
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>>135216116
I always struggle with patterns and never get the elemental walls

I hate the elemental walls in principle because:
>spend 4-6 points in them
>get to next floor/stratum and it's completely useless
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>>135215685
Better evasion so attacks won't dunk you as easily, a way to regain TP, Dark Ether on both rows, extra damage from Bunshin explosions with Fire/Ether Mastery and occasionally Singularity. It's worse than Ninja/Zodiac in a lot of ways, but still not the worst thing you can do with one. I've had a surprising amount of success using a Zodiac/Gladiator in the front row, Maces hit hard and adding Ice Element makes them do a surprising amount with the damage boosting passives.
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>>135216330
>get to post-game
>all of them are useful

>rest
>get the new needed wall
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>>135216330
You don't need more than 3 points in them before post game. And if it bothers you that much, you can always rest the character.
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Since /eog/ is already taken why don't we just use /FOE/?
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>>135216461
>rest one character
>you get all your points back but 2
>uneven exp

>rest all your characters
>waste of fucking time
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>>135216357
Oh, and I forgot, by splitting itself Zodiac can use 2 person limits like the elemental ones by itself, hit B after selecting it for one you won't have to add another person.
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>>135216627
>EOIII
>Even EXP

NEVER EVER.
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>>135216581
EVEN IN SPOILERS!

What's /eog/ used for?
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>>135216330
I find elemental walls irritating because they make the tank archtype damn near mandatory for some boss fights, and absolutely mandatory for post game
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Anything about your playstyle you suspect is peculiar?

I never equip rings/accessories. Just shields/plate/boots/helms etc
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>>135216581
Don't be lazy
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>>135217019
I'm glad EOIII has subclasses and two ways of negating elemental attacks for that reason. It makes splitting the elemental blocks between 3 characters less redundant and allows to use the the other two for more stuff.
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>>135216948
eve online
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>>135217332
>I never equip rings/accessories
I did that until I noticed my back row didn't need that much defense.
And even to your front row, those few extra points in defense aren't going to save you from a one-tic-kill poison
Also stopped using helms because they rarely include nice bonuses for just a little more def than gloves and boots and are much slower.
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>>135218078
I usually throw a shield/helm combo on my protector if the helm has something nice like 'bash resist ^' or an elemental resistance. The speed boost from boots doesn't help a protector much since so many of their skills get priority or don't matter
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If I like EO should I pick up SMT games? Strange Journey looks fun.
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>>135219586
They are nothing alike.
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>>135218321
Well, the tank is my one exception. They either get priority or are the slowest, plus they'll be taking hits, so there I accumulate as much defense and resistances as I can.
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>>135219586
SJ suffers from EO3's problem where every couple of floors they make you drop everything and report back to town/base.

Except in SJ it's more like every floor.
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>>135216828
>NG+
>fully retired at 70 team
>no need to explore the sea because NG+
>evenly scylla exploit when needed

I done it brah
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I always get butthurt about how games do new game plus

>if I still have my armor and gear the game is piss easy and I get bored really fast
>if I still have my gold I just buy shitloads of shit and the game is piss easy and I get bored really fast
I just want a new game + with more quests and starting with 4 extra skill points and a few stat points or something. I hate the WEW NOW I CAN STROLL RIGHT TO ENDGAME FULL OF BOREDOM
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>>135220734
The untolds have that, except for the extra quests.
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>>135220734
>Now you can choose what you can carry over NG+
>butthurt
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>>135221137
I want it to be like Kamidori Alchemy Meister did.

You actually get a shitload of NG+ quests and there are things you cant do in the first game that you can in the second
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>>135214480
>Buccaneer
Gladiator, then max charge.
Pincushion ALL THE THINGS
ALL THE FUCKING THINGS (but only after charging)
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>>135216581
As someone said a few days ago, why not /sqg/? Sekaijew no MeiQ general
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>>135219586
I got into them in parallel (Persona Q being the branch that connected the two for me). Currently have Soul Hackers and played a bit of the NES original. They're not really that similar but you might like it if you like the idea of Pokemon, only the Pokemon are demons that you have to recruit instead of catch.
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>EOIV
>Hall of Darkness
>The whole dolls sequence
>That lore

I was expecting a fight. I wish I had had a fight. This was so fucked up.
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>>135223267
I remember something really unnerving about the dolls but I can't remember the sequence itself at all. I think an axe was involved?

... damn, I'm alone in a dark room and now I can't stop looking behind you.
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>>135221514
>and there are things you cant do in the first game that you can in the second
Kind of shit since one normal run in EO can take up to 120 hours.
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>>135224326
Only if you're going for 100% completion.
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>>135221514
I hate it when RPGs force you to do a NG+ for completion.
It's just a shitty way to inflate the play time that doesn't bring anything actually good.
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>>135224771
With Kamidori there were three routes so each run was different enough from the last to merit doing that. Also depending on how you put stats into the main costumes each run could have significantly different play
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>>135223978

You return the child doll to its mother and father doll, and presumably, as a reward, they reward you with a powerful Death forged Axe for your trouble as you walk away.

The horrifying part is that if you return to inspect the doll family any time after that, it says that the doll family has been mercilessly smashed and the pieces strewn about in the corner.
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>>135224949
Those are justified. Others, however, are "you must beat the game once to unlock this quest" or "you can't do this in time unless you carry over sutff into a NG+", where the locked content has absolutely no relation with the differences between runs or what you learn during the ending.
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>>135225258
Well, a doll HAVING an axe specifically linked to death is scary enough.
But yeah, whatever else is lurking in that dungeon...
WHO MADE THE SOUP?
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>>135225279
Kamidori had exclusive NG+ content too but it doesn't sting when you're doing it to play a second or third route though.

I get what you mean and am not disagreeing with you. I feel like it would be okay to have these in EO since it has story mode now. You can beat story (or classic) first and then have a NG+ other version with extra literally anything to help keep it fresh
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>>135225489
I'm not exactly a fan of how Untold is handling this either, since you end up giving up on a complete file for one mode.

Although if it were more in line with EO3, I might be fine.
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>>135225782
You can have like 9 now, what's the problem with that?
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>>135226254
autism
>>
What if it did it like pokemon and in NG+ when you got to the core chamber you encountered your previous party and they attacked you because they were corrupted by the core

Alternatively it would be pretty cool to be able to set up hostile 5-man parties to fight against in town for practice and fun to test out builds or whatever the fuck
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>>135225448
I forgot about the soup, I mean, why would it be there? I bet Dalla did it.

I guess I'll go back and eat it, I mean, is just soup, right?
>>
Did you pet the squirrels
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>>135226254
Not so much now, but I'll still have either my classic file missing a badge or the story one. Onless I go through the whole game one more time.
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>>135227907
Yes.

I rarely carry threads around.
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>>135229035
>doesn't carry thread
Why? Do you not get game over screens?
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>>135227907

>not saying "Yes" to everything

It's like you hate adventuring.
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>>135231027
>not saying "Yes to everything
How many other people do this? I can't imagine not seeing all the events you can even if they're bad.
>Touch the statues?
>[x] Touch
>Fuck
>Finish fight
>Still have the option to touch them
>Wonder what happens if I do it again
>[x] Touch
>FUCK
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>>135231027
I still regret not yelling a third time at the 4th stratum, even though at that point any battle, let alone a blindside, would have killed me.
>>
Komori EOV blog

http://sq-atlus.jp/blog/archives/1717
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>>135234990
aw shit we map now
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>slaughter shield
>100 Def all resist down 4v
How am I supposed to use this
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>>135235230
Smite and a Bikini. the 100 def pretty much kinda counteracts the physical part.
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>>135235179
>All those locations

Man I hope they aren't little 3x3 caves again.
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>>135234990
Any info worth a damn it there?
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>>135235441
I'm not really skilled enough to get most of it quickly, but it doesn't look like there's too much beyond reintroducing himself and talking about the map a bit. Though,
>このように地図や設定をつくったのですが、今作『世界樹V』では各地を旅することはありません。(Ⅲの海やⅣの空といった他の舞台はありません)
Apparently there won't actually be world map traversal like in III (sailing) and IV (flying). The bit after explains that this is because customers were telling them that dungeon-crawling and map-drawing are the essence of Etrian Odyssey.
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>>135235972
Well they have a point there. I'd rather a large dungeon than a small dungeon with an overworld.
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>>135235972

Damn, I liked the sailing puzzles and the NPCs' stories for each of their battles was like a whole entire narrative separate from the main game.

You know the get-rich quick farmer that gives you tips on the monsters and labyrinth itself in exchange for drinks? He's one of the guys you can fight the Elder Dragon alongside. There were actual character arcs for NPCs and I thought that was so cool; was worth the uneven xp.

Hopefully these new Adventure Episodes flesh out the world and characters similarly.
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>>135235972
FUCK YES. You don't know how happy and hyped this makes me.
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>>135235972
I actually liked 4's Flying, but I'll take larger dungeons over it.
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>>135235972
That's good, I was hoping there wouldn't be anything of the sort, all it really does it take away from what should be the focus:dungeon crawling.
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>>135198286
Spaceship.

It starts out damaged to the point where you can barely fly it across an ocean. As you upgrade and fix it, you get to unlock new locations and travel further, until you hit the last space stratums.
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>>135235972
That sucks.
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>>135238818
>copying FF

Ahahahaha, no.
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>>135239056
Oh yeah, I forgot 4 had that. Oops.
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>>135238818
>Pikmin Odyssey
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>>135239447
>Etrian Odyssey with Pikmin monsters
>Snagrets and Groinks
>final dungeon is the Dream Den

This sounds appealing but also frighteningly difficult
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>>135239660
>Louie eats your Ariadne Threads.
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>raquna will never give you a drunken rimjob and vomit in your ass and pass out
Sometimes I wonder if life is worth living
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>>135239660
Pikmin are smaller than a quarter, so it wouldn't be difficult for adventurers to deal with any of their enemies.
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So, I just finished Story Mode, I assume that if I get everything I need from Gladsheim I can leave the rest of the post game to Classic and still get 100%?
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>>135241187
It's not. Kill yourself. this is my fantasy too
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>>135241187
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>>135241607
Almost. For the treasure chest medal you need to open all chests, including those on b30f and gladsheim.
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>>135242160
So I'll need to play the 6th Stratum in Story first? Thanks
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>>135243143
You just need to get the chests. You can leave the rest for classic if you want.
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>>135243360
If I'll need to explore it might as well go all the way.
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>>135242131
I masturbated to this expression, thank you.
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Would you help breeding with Bushi to help produce these?

Think of the future, anon.
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>>135151787
what game do i have to play so that i can fuck that
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>>135245664
No but I thank you for your sacrifice.
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>>135245845
The waiting game
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>>135245931
Is this waiting game for nintendo DS?
Gamecube?
Playstation?
Computer?
phone?
Can I play it on my loonux?

Is it a gatcha game or an mmorpg?
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>>135245664
>would you perform bestiality to help produce these
No. But I would breed with a rabbit sarashi.

>>135245845
I would suggest finding a place to freeze yourself for the next year.
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>>135246041
Oh fuck off.
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>>135246072
I think he's gonna have to wait longer than a year to fuck someone from the 2D world.
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>>135245664
There were no bunny bushi, so no. They're probably genetically engineered too
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>>135247114
>no bunny bushi
Next you're going to tell me U1's story mode was a masterpiece.
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>>135235972
>Apparently there won't actually be world map traversal
bah
if anything they will just be paid DLC quests
look at the "resort island" at the bottom left
that's the indication for atlus(tm) onsen DLC for you
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>>135247335

U1's story mode was a memepi- huh!?
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>>135235179
oh and there is apparently dark runaria and reptilian on the map so that's new race spoilers
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>>135157506
Best? U2.

Favorite? 3.
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>>135157506

EO3 because replayability and creativity with 6 party slots.
>>
Why the fuck did AtlusUSA call Ariadne Threads Warp Wires at first and then change it?
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>>135248748
Warp Wire isn't a cool enough name.
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>>135248748
EO1 and EO2 had strict character limits. It's even worse for monsters and skill names.
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>>135247475
>"resort island"
>onsen DLC
Fire Emblem is killing every game in Japan.
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Just a reminder
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>>135252972
delete this
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...Is that Kupala recapping the series in Bravely Second?
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>>135251771
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>>135248748
Wait is that why they changed the name after 2?
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>>135253161
Link?
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>>135255036
The same reason they changed Ragelopes to Furyhorns. Princess/-ss to Sovereing: They are idiots.
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>>135253161
Grimwah stones, hmmm? By what strange trick of fate do your paths cross anew?
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>>135255325
Character limits actually make sense though
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>>135255325
>idiots
>note technical limitations
Come on man.
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>>135255421
He's not wrong. They are idiots, the other shit isn't justified.
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>>135255325
>changing Phalanx to Hoplite
YURUSAN
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>>135255560
>Paladin to Protector
赦さぬッ
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>>135255325
>Princess/-ss to Sovereing

That's because they changed Paladins to protectors. We could have just had Pa/Pr but nope.
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>>135255621
>>135255954

>Why not paladin

Because Teach ain't a saint or a holy girl. :^)
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>>135256748
>implying she isn't a pure Christmas cake
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>>135255192
No link, I'm afraid. I'm playing it.
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>>135256892
pure shit maybe
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>>135255421
>Ragelope has 8 characters
>Furyhorn has 8 characters
>somehow the latter has less technical limitations?
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>>135227012
>building the perfect party that can handle anything
>do new game +
>decide to build a different kind of party
>get ambushed by your previous saves party
>the game logged all your actions
>the game remembers everything you did even when you reloaded a save because of death
>the game then destroys you by being you
>the game doesn't give you a game over screen it just deletes your party members

I want this.
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>>135257768
Rapelope triggers
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>>135257768
I don't really know about that, but I remember them saying that before 4, in order to actually had to alter the game's code in order to get the translationsame in
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>>135257204
You don't even need to crop nnS' work, it's sfw! Tentacle rape isn't lewd if it's in the belly button.
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Healing Herb
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>>135235972
And that's why we can't have nice things. There's always the idiot that thinks that every part of the game that they don't like is taking away half of the unspecified resources of the parts they do like.
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>>135235972
Are you serious? The flying in IV was basically dungeon exploration without random encounters. Made the world feel more real, too.

The 'world map' in III was more like an optional puzzle minigame. I don't think any part of it is mandatory, is it? How the hell does that take away from the dungeon crawling?
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>>135262202
>>135262691
I bet they just couldn't figure out a good cheap way to do that without repeating skyships and just transfered the blame to "dear customers whose voices had to be heard".
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>>135262827
Honestly, I wouldn't have minded another skyship. Selecting your destination from a menu isn't exactly innovative either.
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>>135262691
Not him but IV is my first and current and I love the adventuring feel that flying to the labyrinths gives.

Considering that, should my next EO be III, or 2 Untold?
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>>135262949
I wouldn't mind either, but look at that map. EO4 had 4 confined maps for 6 strata. They'd need at least twice as many and way bigger maps to cover all the shit we can see, with exits in multiple directions. And some excuse to limit access that isn't "narrow passage with strong winds" every single time.

Basically, they're cutting corners and removing whatever falls away from their expertise zone.
Challenges should be left to the player, not the developer is what they must be thinking
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>>135262975
They're both really good. 2 Untold is kind of easy, though, but the character building is pretty streamlined compared to III.

Problem with the DS EO games is that there are a lot of 'wasted' skill points you need to spend to unlock other skills, so that you sometimes don't get any real character growth for five or ten levels. 2 Untold and especially IV fix this.

III does have subclassing though, so there's a lot of flexibility. And I liked the atmosphere better than 2 Untold's.

Personally I played 1U>IV>III>2U, but only 2U after III becaue it wasn't out until February here.
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>>135263234
Yeah, the seaside town thing really jives with me. Plus, I was sold on the "one giant labyrinth" concept vs. IV's multiple ones by having it described as you delving deeper and deeper into a hole until you eventually find eldritch abominations. Also sailing.

Wasn't a fan of the grimoire shit when I played the 2U demo, even if it was improved compared to 1U. Just seems convoluted.
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>>135266889
Grimoires are bearable in 2U at least. I'm not putting in any extra effort and I've got a good set of grimoires on my characters. Only downside is that you need to put in a bit of effort (scan a QR code or get lucky with trading partners) if you want the Unbind/Refresh lv5+ skills. None of the story mode characters can heal status or binds, after all, except with the Fafnir's Absorb which only works on yourself.

I'm not saying it's better than multiclassing (it's not) but it's fun in 2U in a lot of ways it wasn't in 1U.
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>>135268668
Getting the specific grimoires you want, however, is a massive chore and you have to pay attention to a thousan things (kind of grimoire chance, how to trigger more chances, grimoire fevers, pray to get what you actually want at the level you need...).
Or you must rely on guild cards (for which you need high level grimoires anyways) which pretty much means looking for resources outside the game. Might as well use a cheating device at that point.

It's still a grindy random piece of crap. I hope we never see them again. Or at the very least that every single layer of randomness is removed from them.
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>>135266889
>Wasn't a fan of the grimoire shit when I played the 2U demo, even if it was improved compared to 1U
As much as I hated U1 grimoires, I found U2 grimoires added a fun layer to the gameplay. They offered a sort of customization that could be retooled before each boss or FOE battle ("This time I'll need Prevent Order." "Let's double the Ice damage for this character." "Better bring an enemy buff dispel for this boss.")
And trading with QR codes was perfectly painless, given the big list we have in the OP.
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>>135269543
You do get plenty of grimoire chances though, so you really shouldn't be lacking for grimoires of your own characters' skills, unless you absolutely must have max level grimoires. I get by fine with anything 5+ though.
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>>135269543
The only people that don't like grimoires are Teacfags that are being choked by their nostalgia goggles
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>>135269701
Most of my characters are fitted with skill levels over 4, but most of them are still fairly useless and I have them for the added effects.
As for the rest of my collection, I'm at the post-game and the majority of the grimoires I get are level 1-3. That's simply unacceptable.

It also isn't pretty to navigate the grimoire list if you aren't up to date with recycling. That menu is just too messy, specially since you can only see like 5 grimoires at a time out of a max of 400.

Just let me buy a "blank level 8 grimoire" and put inside whatever skill I want.

>>135269668
>And trading with QR codes was perfectly painless, given the big list we have in the OP.
Except when that list didn't exist yet.
Why does it have to be players who fix developer BS?

>>135269814
Get back to your shitty Korean MMO grindfest.
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>>135270171
Go back to whining on Gamefaqs about how every new mechanic is ruining the series.
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>>135269904
>that top
>it's like it's bodypainted on, with little gold pasties for the nipples

Nghhh.
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>>135270263
Ail/bind resistance chart is the best thing to happen to the series.
The skyship was a great addition and it's a shame it's being replaced by a boring menu.
EO2 class-specific shortcuts were shit.
Subclassing was the correct answer for party customization, although EO3 did it poorly.
I like floor jump
Grimoires are utter shit
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>>135269543
>Getting the specific grimoires you want, however, is a massive chore
You still talking U2? All I did was play the game, search for a guild card with the grimoires I wanted, and trade all the accumulated junk for something good. It was really easy. Hell, later on I didn't even bother keeping all three lvl 10 elemental shields, I would just pull up the right card and trade for whichever one I needed at the moment.

>Except when that list didn't exist yet.
People started compiling that shit as soon as the game came out. There was one week before the game was released where I had it and most others didn't; that was pretty much the only time I couldn't trade for grimoires.

The sorting of the grimoire list was quite easy, since you could filter by class and arrange by name/date/level/etc. Dunno what your problem is.
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>>135247707
Dark elves and lizard lolis? I'm sold.
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>>135270624
I wasn't here back then, so I had a really hard time finding anything that wasn't max level skills, which were just unaffordable.
You have to be pretty dedicated and be at the right place to solve that shitty design.
That kind of thing should be solved by the game itself, not by random people on the internet - and before you mention grimoire trading, that is yet another layer of RNG.

>The sorting of the grimoire list was quite easy, since you could filter by class and arrange by name/date/level/etc. Dunno what your problem is.
True that. I guess I just don't like needing to sort at all.

A grimoire list is basically a list of useless junk, a few useful ones and a couple skills and effects that maybe someday will become useful so better keep them.
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>>135198894
This please.

>drive your caravan around the overworld
>little 3d models of your party members can be see riding it
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What about battle animations like Persona Q did? There's something gratifying to me about seeing my character strike.
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>>135271472
The only battle animations I'll accept are the wideface ones from 7D.
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>>135271970
Never played it. But I see what you mean.
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>>135235972
And just like that my hyped has dropped considerably.
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So I just beat the first stratum in EOIII, party is
H/P
A/Z/M

I'm thinking now that having both a prince and a monk is a bit too defensive, which should be replaced for another damage dealer?
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How much do you spoil yourself in EO games?

Like, do you look at the map? Maybe just after you're done with a floor to see if you missed any shortcut? Do you look at enemy weaknesses? Etc
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>>135274239
You could replace either. Hoplites are the best tanks, but a Prince subbed Hoplite works quite well.
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>>135274967
>>135274239
Whoops, I kind of misread your post.

What I mean to say is that of the P, H, and M, you should choose any two. P&H, P&M, H&M, and P&P are all good healer + tank combos.

Monks will out-heal Princes, and Hoplites will out-tank Princes, but Princes bring some versatility to the table.
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>>135274794
If it's not obvious, I'll ask for boss elemental weaknesses beforehand if I'm using an elemental team.
I'll look up conditionals if I haven't figured out how to get one myself too, but that's about it.
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Can someone explain me forges in EO3?

If it's on a weapon, elemental/status forges will add elemental damage/chance to deal stats or binds on hit? And on armor it's resistances to elements or these status/binds?
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>>135275457
kill them all
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>>135275457
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>>135275457
Forgot the warp wire, FOE!
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>>135271970
>>135272172
Damn, looked this up a bit more. I remember reading about 2020, but the DS game looks pretty cool. I might seek this out.
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>>135269904
I'll probably use her unless her skills are awful. I don't like the male portraits and I love her bodysuit covered by cloth and armor. It's like an even more slutty princess.
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>>135275778
Yes, that's how it works.
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To get grimoires with additional effects, what effects were tied to each stratum?
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>>135241187
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How do you pronounce Ariadne? I pronounce it Ah-Ree-Odd-Nee.
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>>135263234
>2 Untold is kind of easy
>implying

>>135271139
How does trading Grimoires from the QRs add another layer of RNG? You didn't even play the game and you're complaining.
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>>135281979
>How does trading Grimoires from the QRs add another layer of RNG? You didn't even play the game and you're complaining.
Since I was talking about the alternative that didn't involve other players, i very obviously meant that "Trade grimoire" option that you have right between "Equip grimoire" and "Recycle grimoire".
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>>135282596
And nobody suggests to trade them with NPCs because there is already the QR method which is much better. You're just looking at excuses to complain.

You're better off in >>>/v/
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>>135283057
Not every player comes to this general, you know?
Just because I personally won't have that much of a problem it doesn't mean that grimoires as they stand aren't still utter shit.
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>>135283353
But they aren't, you just want to complain for the sake of complaining. Also, you're a retard if you think this is the only place where you can get QRs.

Again, fuck off back to >>>/v/
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Necrololi is overdesigned
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>>135283807
Fuck off Teachfag
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>>135283353
Please ignore that guy.
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Do you think EOV will have the ability to play the game using the control stick?
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>>135284769

Why would you play a game with no diagonal movement with analog movement controls?
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>>135283353
This isn't the 90s and you all alone with a Gameboy link cable. All anyone has to do is google the grimoires they need, every damn EO community out there shares them.
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>>135284769
You mean the circle pad? If so, nope, it's already being used to look around and moving the map smoothly.
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>>135284769
If you mean the c stick on the n3DS, I hope that's used for looking around the dungeon. Left circle pad should remain for panning on the map.
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Does the monster codex in EOIV actually fill up 100%? It seems there's a lot of "???????"s simply to separate the enemies/FOEs/Sky FOEs/Bosses sections.

Speaking of sections, EOV really should have a nicer codex with everything categorized, because searching for a specific entry by scrolling through the whole list is a pain.
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>>135284769
If you mean playing the game with one hand on your dick: pretty sure it does. That's one of the good things about turn-based RPGs
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Is there info anywhere on the accuracy of individual weapons? I've been told that Agnea has a much lower accuracy than other guns, and while I'd believe it with how much that piece of shit misses, actual data would be nice.
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>>135291108
Gunner skills just have low accuracy
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>>135291210
I'm aware. But there's low accuracy, and then there's <30% accuracy.
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>>135290652
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>>135291108
>Agnea
huh?
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>>135291581
>No qt monster girl boss in EO4

What went wrong?
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>>135291581
god fuck i wanna blow a bubble in brown dancers ass
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>>135291848
Second stratum
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>>135291108
This is the only weapon data I know of: http://pastebin.com/npfzdJiB, but there isn't anything on Agnea there.
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>>135292282

Not cute enough.
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So when do you get Elderevenge in Untold 1?
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>>135294739
You need to use X amount of tea and such. I remember my first game I had it by like strat 3 because of returning to town so much, but on a NG+ I did not see it until strat 6
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>>135294739
When you reach max friendship I think.
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>playing u2
>done all the quests in story mode
>pretty much finished with everything
>still can't develop some of the recipes
>want to start classic but also don't want to miss out on the end of regina's story
help
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>>135295913
Make another file and switch the story one to Picnic for the 6th stratum
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>>135286695
I hope they would use it for that. You can walk and look around at the same time, so it would be nice to do so without both controls being on the same side of the console.
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>>135290652
I'm more worried about the item compendium since monster drops and gathering items are all mixed up in a not very intuitive way.

>>135291616
The ultimate gun.

>>135291848
Cute is for recruiting, not killing.
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>>135295913
>still can't develop some of the recipes
Kill FOEs in the sixth stratum.
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>>135296809
Not that guy. But the only recipes I'm missing (AFAIK) are the Fire and Thunder Dragon dishes. Is there something special you need to do to unlock them? I got the Blizzard dish just fine
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>>135297021
kill them
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>>135297145
I already did
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>>135297021
Didn't you need to finish all the recipes for each set? (Western, Japanese, Chinese). I could be completely misremembering.
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>>135297914
That could be it, I haven't killed those pumpkin head 'take no damage and drain your TP' FOEs yet, and I hear they're in a dish.
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>>135297914
Oh, you are right.
I forgot about that
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>>135296160
>>135296809
thanks, will do
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>>135298478
for one theres no mole

also the protectors a beautiful man, not a girl
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>>135293839
Guess it doesn't say one way or another about that gun, but thanks for the info nonetheless, anon.
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>>135298672
I always saw him as a man, but when I got back into IV the other night I was struck by this striking similarity.
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>>135298478

Regina is cuter.
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>>135298948
Regina is honestly the only thing tempting me to buy Untold 2.
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>>135298478
Aren't those poisonous? Are they even edible?
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>>135298478
Kirjonen is still prettier.
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>>135299243
Maybe he's hunting Kangaroos.
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>>135298478
Regina is one of the few good things about EOU2.
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>>135299763
Fuck off Teachfag
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>>135299305
Debatable. But nothing can match the pure erotic fear I feel glimpsing at Regina's fiery eyes.
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Playing U2 here and I'm about to fight Guild Esbat again. I got two different parties around the mid to low 30s

Party one consists of L(critical focused)/P/A/S/M

Second party is R/H/Wm/T/S
I also have a Beast just in case. I'm not sure if I need to grind more cause I was getting hit pretty hard on my last attempt, and I hear the stratum boss is even tougher
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>>135300474
Abreviating class names with a single letter is shit
What do you mean "S"?
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>>135300474
Bring both the Beast and the Protector, I'm curious to see if you can tank both of their Force Breaks.
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>>135301796
It's only shit if you don't know the classes - "S" is Sovereign by the way
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>>135302103
It could also be survivalist.
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>>135269904
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>start up EOU2
>can't decide whether to do Classic or Story
>decide on Story because the characters look interesting
>go to save
>multiple save files

What took so long to implement this?
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>>135269904
Same. I never liked chasing/linking classes. I like when they're able to pull their weight without relying on others or on weaker skills.
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>>135297021
i'm in the same predicament as this guy, please help
i've developed everything and beaten all the dragons
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>>135302484
DS limitations. It uses the SD card this time around
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>>135302659
I'm still surprised that there are so few games that use the SD card for extra save slots. I mean, the 3DS is almost at the end of its life and the devs are barely starting to use it.
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>>135298478
Figures the Swede wants 'ebony carrots'.
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>>135302659
But this is the 3rd game on the 3ds. So what took so long?
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>>135299763
>Oh. It's you.
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>>135303206
DLC.
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>>135303047
It's a mystery. Sure there's a workaround with backups (as long as you don't go physical), but any game that only allows one saved data in this day and age is ridiculous.

>>135303206
It took them receiving a lot of shit for the crap they did with EOU's modes.
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>playing EOIV
>get to a marsh cave in the second land
>FOE's that move diagonally
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>>135304875
They just move like a knight on a chess board. The pattern is easy, but the fact that they essentially take up more blocks during movement can be annoying.
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Is it me or blindness also reduces def in EO3? It feels like hitting a blind enemy dealt more damage

Is it only physical damage?
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>>135304875
It's scary until you realize the pattern. Just plan ahead and navigate around them.

>tfw I just came back to here
>tfw I'm leveled up and these FOE's are no problem
>I'm too lazy to avoid them and just kill every single one.
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>>135299859
Naw, man, I like the other protector better.
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>>135303206
Well Persona Q had them before.
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>>135303161
Don't you try to culturally imperialize our glorious Finnish traps.
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>>135307268
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What's better for forging? ATK up or STR up?
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>>135216009
My nigga the fact that he uses a gun makes back row tanking finally look right. I know that usually tanks do shit damage anyways but at least now they use a weapon that doesn't receive the fucking back row penalty.
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>>135308414
>excited to use a back row gunner tank
>but every other class I'm interested also looks like a back row class
Dammit. And I usually gravitate towards 3/2 too.
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>>135307702
ATK, but I could be wrong. I think there's a point where the scaling of one overcomes the scaling of the other, and obviously if your STR is already at 99, forging won't help you at all.
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>>135307702
Atk is better once str reaches a certain point.
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>>135308727
Me too. I might actually run my first 2/3.
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>>135308952
>>135309089
Makes sense. Thanks.
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>>135308727
I've done some 2/3 and some 3/2. It all depends on whatever formation works best with the party I want.
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>been juggling between both Untold's story modes(even progress on both, just reached the 3rd stratum), Hyrule Legends(got all the shit from the normal adventure map, halfway into the great sea map), PxZ2(chapter 13), and a bit of BD on the side, plus the beggining of Majora's Mask also, Final Fantasy Record Keeper
>decide that i'm fed up with so many vidya at the same time, so i decide to focus on one at a time until i finish them

>currently on the third stratum of the first Untold
>after playing and beating III and IV, plus also playing U2 on tandem, U1 just feels so bland
>lv31 on expert, frogs are dealing a shitload of damage, and ants take 3-4 turns minimun to kill
>no way of getting amritas and barely, if ever, get amber lumps to make nectars

I'm really tempted to just lower the difficulty to normal and just breeze through the game so i can play U2.
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>>135310445
If you want to play U1 then I'd say do it. I agree with you, U1 feels extremely boring and dull, even on classic mode. U2 is much better
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>>135310445
You can literally just dupe amritas in untold 1 m8.
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>>135310906
I know, but i have this feeling that i should play through each game of the series, since i like it so much. And better to beat Untold than the actual EO1.

>>135311012
How?
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>>135311317
When I played U1 story I dropped to picnic around the 3rd stratum because I was bored out of my mind and wanted to get into classic mode. and was equally bored in classic
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>>135311317
Are you playing the American version or the European version? Item duping was fixed for the latter.
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>>135311317
There is a duping glitch in the NA version. But I don't remember the details anymore. It was patched out of the EU version.
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>>135311538
Really? I had a blast playing EOU in Classic, and Story too because the characters were funny. In fact, I enjoyed it way more than EO4.
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>>135311718
>>135311790
The only bugfixing NISA has done for EO
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>>135312086
That reminds me. Did they fix the suspend save bug in EOU2?
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>>135312349
Of course they didn't.
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>>135311538
>>135311928
I'm actually enjoying the characters, but the actual gameplay part is what feels bland. Plus, when compared to the other games's color palettes, it feels washed out, which is probably also why i don't like it that much.

>>135311718
>>135311790
Playing the NA version, would love to have those details just for the sake of bumping the thread, since i doubt i'll be needing it when i lower the difficulty.
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>>135312818
#1. Select a party member that has their Boost Gauge filled. #2. Open the item menu and select the item you wish to duplicate. #3. At the second party member, hit B to return command back to the previous party member. #4. Select Boost from the first party member (the one that used an item). #5. Press B to toggle Boost off. #6. Repeat Steps 4 and 5 until you receive the desired amount of items. #7. Finish the battle as normal
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>>135312965
Noice, does it work with any items?
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>>135313196
Any 'usable' item
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>>135298092
They're weak to elements, worst case you can equip an elemental weapon and hit them with basic attacks. Chasers are also useful if you're using a lot of physical classes, and War Magus ignores cut resist with its attacks.
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So how big is Untold 2? Planning to just casual shitter my way through it on story normal
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>>135317158
Big like gameplay hours, or space on your SD card?
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>>135317158
>Planning to just casual shitter my way through it on story normal
Don't even bother.
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>>135317220
hours
>>135317443
why?
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>>135317158
What's the point in "playing" if you're just going to breeze through it? It's a little bigger than U1.
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>>135317614
Something like 130-140 hours including postgame. I wouldn't be able to estimate how long it took to finish the main game, though. More than the other EOs, since it has an extra stratum.
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>>135317656
Because i want to play it, but i don't have time to 100% the game anymore?
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>>135318160
Who said anything about 100%? You could probably finish the 5th stratum within about 50-60 hours on expert.
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Do I post about mystery dungeon here?
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>>135322985
If it's EOMD.
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>>135323059
Yeah of course.

So I just installed it. Are there some classes that are better than others? I only played EO2 and things like hexers were really useful for their status effects. It's the same true of this or is it more balanced?
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>>135303206
This >>135303347
Some people liked story mode, some people don't.
So now with 9 save slots, everyone can be happy.
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>>135323903
Also I know I'm pretty late to it, but was anyone else unhappy with the lack of brown girl palatte options for characters? There's only 2!
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>>135323903
It's a pretty different beast than the EO games. Not particularly balanced, a Protector with Provoke is a huge advantage, several of the Princess skills were bugged (both in ways that would make the game easier or harder), etc.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the game gets easier with a smaller party, because the AI was that frustrating.
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>>135323903
Some of the princesses skills are bugged so that she dodges her own buffs. But otherwise I think each class is good. One good tip is that a landshark links are counted as debuffs for the sake of dropping the DOE's barrier.
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>>135324548
>>135324561
Thanks guys. I'll keep it in mind when I unlock her.
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>>135312086
>EO
>NISA
Wat?
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>>135325613
Nisa handles the series in EU.
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>>135325712
My condolences.
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Wish him luck.
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>>135326968
RIP
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>>135326968
You got this, man.
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>>135326968
RIP
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>>135326968
He'd probably be a better fighter if he didn't carry those stupid tubes around for no reason.
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>>135327083
>>135327110
>>135327118
Aaaand dead.
I think I should just take him through the Lush Woodlands instead.
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>>135327391
He literally spend all his time drinking cum
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>>135327479
Why would you put cum in test tubes? get your mind out of the gutter.
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>>135247707
>>135235179
I'm seeing 3 additional races. What's the one on the far left, starting with ホ?
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>>135327990
Horun = Horn?
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>>135327990
>>135328193
Why are there "Dark Lunaria" when Lunaria can already be black? (and purple, and blue, and green)
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>>135328439
It's the exact same Lunarian sprites, but with their tongues sticking out.
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>>135327623
For research purposes
I think i saw some pic of female medic with cum in the test tubes in these generals
>>135328439
they probably listen to linkin park or something
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>>135328439
Dark elves get evil magic, normal elves just get boring elements.
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>>135247707
>reptilian

I need playable reptiles.
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>>135328564
>female medic with cum in the test tubes
I must find this.
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>>135328193
So with Humans at 4 classes, Elves, Dwarves, and Animals each with 2 classes, plus 3 additional races, I guess we've either got at least 13 classes, or the additional races will just take part in the already known classes.
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What's generally considered the best equipment bonus for a seven kings grimoire?
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>>135328439

Complete color inversion.
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>>135247707
He mentions that the reptilian idea was scrapped.
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>>135330056
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Alright, goddammit.
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>>135330056

fug
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>>135329078
Or they will be enemies.
"Reptilian" is pretty much guaranteed to be something to kill.
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>>135330056
WHY!?
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>>135330853
They only want to love, anon
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>>135331114
No love, only assrape
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>>135331114
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>>135331650
Same difference.
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>>135330853
I have felt that the later EO games lack the touch of genocide that EOI had.
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Which game is most similiar to 4? I wanna play again but I dont want to stray too far from what I already know.
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>>135332374
EOI had genocide
EOII ?
EOIII had the highest NPCs death toll
EOIV none of the NPCs characters died
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>>135332952
EO3. It's slightly easier than the other games (although it's harder than EO4), has subclassing, and has a minigame that involves a (sea) map.
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>>135332952
3, I suppose.
Any game that's not on Story mode will be fairly similar to IV.
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>>135333141
Also has forging, I forgot about that.
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>>135333105
Yes, that's what I'm saying. We haven't gotten to genocide any sub humans for three games now.
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what's a teach
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>>135333352
I hope we can kill all the inhuman races in EOV
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>>135333830
A miserable little pile of Christmas cake.
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>>135333830
What's a Teach to a God?
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>>135333856
Animal ears for domestic ownership and loving.
Elves for indentured servitude and rape.
Gnomes for lower class used only for useful skills, like herbal jews.
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>>135336798
Thumbnail looks like a horse
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>>135337471
Lol, it's true.
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>>135328193
At long last, the rhino race we've been in need of
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In Untold 2, is there any advantage to Protector over Beast (besides Teach)? It just seems like Beast tanks so much more efficiently and fits in any party.
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>>135339139
It's all preference. I've tried both and I prefer protector.
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>>135339139
More free grimoire slots and better equipment (except the bikini)
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>>135338356

>>135339139
Elemental walls. Protecting when HP>50%. Parry. Sentinel guard for that multiattack that protection bow will NOT be enough for.
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>>135339139
I had a slaughter shield playthrough. Protector was Heal Guarding the beast when needed and smite/shield rush when not needed.

Your results may vary
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>>135339139

Protector should be more than enough for the entire game, but the Beast I swapped them out for in the fight against Ur-Child was instrumental.
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>>135339563
>Protecting when HP>50%

Beasts can do that too, although I never used the skill because I don't like having characters at low health on purpose.
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>>135340350
Beasts do it at HP<50%
Since you need HP that low to use protection vow (which enjoys damage mitigation from the back row), you put yourself at risk if vow doesn't proc and can't mingle with any party composition or strategy that includes HP recovery (like princess).
Abusing hit-taker is just asking to be killed from the third stratum onwards.
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>>135339563
Dammit, now I wish this could be.
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>>135340760
Oh wait, yeah, confused the signs.
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F.O.E
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test
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>>135348664
Did it work?
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>>135348762
apparently so
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So we just ganna let this bitch die or what?
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>>135350734
Only four and a half months until EO5.
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>>135271472
I really don't like that kind of thing. It's fine for SMT; keep it out of EO.
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>>135184820
>implying that's a bad thing.

show me your monster index, I better see 100%
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>>135356753
Cute
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>>135356753
Remove purple bimbo
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>>135358704
I would rather live with three Ariannas that have to suffer a single Ricky.
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>>135359110
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>>135359326
Don't worry, Ricky. I don't hate you.
I fucking despise you.
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I want Ricky to spank me for forgetting the warp wire and sometimes smack my nuts during each slap and to hit me harder when I start getting erect
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>>135359110
>>135360202
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>>135361019
why is he giving her a choke hold?
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>>135361218
Trying to end her mercifully.
He's being too kind.
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>>135361218
She likes a little bit of abuse sometimes
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>>135360202
Don't bully the ricky, it'll make me play the game to treat her nice.
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>>135361838
You desire to be nice to her only makes me want to bully her harder.
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Death to Ricky
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>>135361565
What a shit
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>>135362239
It's a habitual conditioning I have. In middle and high school I was friends with everyone that was bullied, partly because I was a bully myself and would bully the bullies I caught, sometimes by starting rumors, other times by pantsing them, but most times by straight up physical abuse that would get me temporarily suspended. Bullies need to be bullied, anon.
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>>135362660
I wish I had your imagination
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>>135361565
They are totally going to fuck that night.
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>>135368424
My heart!
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Must put dicky in Ricky!
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>tfw lots of art of Ricky and Gunner together.
>no art of Ricky and Bestmagus together.
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When do I unlock subclasses in EOIV? I just made it to the miasma place. I need to find some gas to upgrade my airship.
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>>135371403
You unlockedd then after you kill kabigami, which is in the map after the one youre in right now.
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>>135370367
Gee, I wonder why.
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I'm at the "end" of the first Etrian Odyssey on DS and the final boss has beaten me hard so far.

I'm not looking for an ideal solution to beat him because I still have some pride and if I have to respec my characters, so be it. But I'd like some hints on what to do.

I've trained a bard for the the experience bonus. But I think I've clearly underestimated the worth of a level up for a character. Should i push my characters' levels to the 60-70 before even thinking of trying anything?
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>>135350734
She's the other fencer.
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>>135370123
Approach Ricky.
Present dicky.
Request licky.
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>>135376271
She'll only do it, if you get mods to make her thread on [s4s] a sticky
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>Playing EOIV
>The game somehow switched itself to casual and I had no idea
Good thing I figured that out before I had played much longer. Does the game automatically switch at any point? Like if you die too much or something? I have no idea how it got set to casual since I started the game on normal difficulty.
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>>135377932
Nope, you started the game on casual without realizing it.
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>>135378164
What the fuck. I could swear I clicked on Normal when I started. At least I caught it fairly early on. Already in the second stratum anyways. Kinda lame.

I transferred my game data from the demo. Could that have something to do with it?
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>>135378245
No idea, when I played from a demo bonus I never really ran into that problem. I'd almsot suggest finishing the game on casual and doing new game plus on normal so that you know what youre doing and can play with retired characters.
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>>135378397
Casual is 2easy4me.
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>>135378397
Don't ever follow this advice. This is pure awful advice.
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>>135374109
pls respond. Are 10 hours of grinding to get my characters back to the levels 60+ more efficient than just using a better team composition of 40-50+ characters. The damage output of my lvl 46 Landsknecht seems laughable against the end boss fucker.
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>>135269904
>hair ties
Hate. Hair should either be short and cute without needing ornaments, or long and flowing free.
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>>135151787
Teach EOV portrait when
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>>135235179
The tree better be a big dungeon
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>>135379657
Sorry man, can't help you, never played the first one, only played the fourth, but if its anything to go by, chances are if your dps is low level up a few times could really help out.
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>>135379786
You have objectively shit taste.
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>>135380546
Shoo shoo disgusting twintails
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>>135380662
I'll fight you!
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>>135380996
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>>135381043
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>>135379786
I think hair clips are pretty cute.
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>>135379657
Landsknecht is pretty awful int he first game.
Get Immunliser or whatever on Medic and max it out. GG you win.
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>>135381210
Hair clips are alright, yes.
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>>135379786
Did you just describe teach and mediko?
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>>135381316
>Landsknecht
I might be stupid here, but I thought Landys were introduced in IV.
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>>135381398
They were called that in 1/2 and 4 (and just "Swordsman" in JP, but it's one of the class name changes I approve of, personally)

I want her back in my life ;_;
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>>135381398
You might want to play the other games in the series.
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>>135381316
Doesn't Etreant ignore Immunize with its AOE attack? It was the only boss that actually gave me trouble because of it.

>>135379657
Lands are actually great in the first game. I used a mixed one with Allslash and Charge(?) (the Axe single target attack) for random encounters and bosses, respectively. Also what's your team? You better have at least a Medic with Party Heal and Immunize. Protector's Lv5 Defender gives you an.even.bigger boost also.
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>>135381453
Okay, I thought they were introduced as a brand-new balanced class for beginners in IV.

>>135381461
I-I'm working on it.
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>>135381398
>I thought Landys were introduced in IV.
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>>135381634
This, my LS was the heaviest hitter by far in 1, but they got nerfed/"rebalanced" in 2.
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>>135381676
I'm just gonna go lie in a hole now.
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>>135381398
>"How the fuck do I pronounce this? I thought it was "Land Shnekked"
>type into google translate
>Press the speaker button
>"Lansneckked"
https://translate.google.com/#auto/en/Landsknecht
Okay.
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>Those exploding assholes in the Misty Ravine
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>>135381940
>tfw no magical girls in EO
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In EOIV, so I just beat the Final Final Boss. Best battle in the whole game, I almost lost from running out of TP during the last chunk of life but team pulled through.

So the Fallen One is the last problem. I can only deal half its life before it disables me completely just to kill me with Supernova. Any tips?

Team is LDF/RA, Lv95.
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>>135381994
Maybe in EO6
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>>135381865
Did you change it to German first?
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>>135381865
It's like saying "Lands" + "Kinect", just take out the "i" and you got it.
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>>135381994
>tfw no magical girl dungeon crawler
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>>135382012
Fallen One is so easy I just destroy him in four turns with all drops, the bug takes around 14ish turns.
Are you trying for drops or just to beat him?

>>135382065
Google understood it as swedish, not german, and germans sounds just stupid. "Lansk nesht"
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What level should I be for Misty Ravine? I feel like I'm dying way too often. I only just hit level 20 for my party.
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>>135381994
Thank god there is a magical boy in EO
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>>135381634
>>135381316

I've tooled around with my original Protector/Landsknecht | Medic/Survivalist/Alchemist. But I hit a wall with the ant queen, so I've leveled up a Ronin, a dark Hunter, a bard , another medic and a second Landsknecht (sword multi hit focused, the first being axe focused).

But I've had to modify my builds several times because of several errors I had done in early game. For the end boss I'm currently planning a team with :
>a protector actually tanking shit instead of using charge like I used it for half of the game
>a landsknecht axe focused for the DPS
>a survivalist for the leader ability+appolo+ multi hit
>a medic for the immunity/Regen lvl 2
>a bard for the debuff skill/stamina/attack buff

I'm pretty confident in this composition, but leveling this team will take me hours of grinding and I've fully explored the map so it is tedious. My bard was reset twice and is now lvl 30+ while the rest of the team is around 40-50.

Is the grind unavoidable?
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>>135382271
I was level 24 before I got there for the first time.

Protip: Get ebony carrots and feed them to the sheep in the overworld 2nd map and quick kill them for massive exp.
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>>135381940
just don't hit flowers and run
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>>135382236
I still don't understand how you expected it to sound.
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>>135382367
Nice. Thanks for the tip, friend.
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>>135382367
Fuck. Not him, but I didn't know that.
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>>135382271
Are you doing quests? Are you exploring the caves? When I started Misty Ravine I was at that same level, maybe a bit more, and had little trouble. What's your team?

>>135382236
Both, is the last boss I need to beat. I even have Hygiena's Bowl as a last resource but it just doesn't fill on time, and Party Guard almost always ends killing my Fortress, it's kind of a messy battle, even Black Mist doesn't help enough and Arca's Release Spell doesn't help that much.
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>>135382367
>level 24
That sounds way overleveled.
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>>135382519
>but it just doesn't fill on time
Then just go to battle with the meter full.
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>>135382519
>Are you doing quests?
Yes. I have a few I haven't done yet, but I generally take the time to do quests when I get them.
>Are you exploring the caves?
Yes.
>What's your team?
Landsknecht, Nightseeker, Dancer
Runemaster, Sniper

Didn't want a healer, so I'm using Dancer's regen waltz as makeshift healing.
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>>135382456
By the way, be careful with them, use anti debuff gear, I forgot what the sheep does, I think its sleep, but the first one is hard, once you know how to handle them theyre easy.

>>135382519
how, what is your forts skill build, take a picture so I can see what youre doing wrong, my fort can tank the fallen one three or four turns before needing to heal. If you're open to a new group of teammates, get some snipers and arcanists to keep teh dragon bound and poisoned/etc at all times, use geo impact when you need an extra turn for something, instadeath CAN work on the fallen one, but its extremely rare, i've only had it work twice, and i've killed him dozens of times. if your hp isnt capped on fort and your def isn't stupid high, youll either need that or everyone in your party will need capped agi.

>>135382550
Thats what I thought, then the second boss fucked me sideways,
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>>135382328
You're using the same team I had when I played EOI so I hope I can help. Go LP/TAM, Max Bravery, Immunize and leave Defender at Lv5. Mixed Lands works better since you still can max Axes, Swords, Allslash and Charge at late game and with Bravery boost it hits like a truck. Survivalist is ok with Apollon and Multi Hit, Max Apollon first. Get Salve 2 and leave it at Lv3 or 4, whatever works best for you, it also needs Full Heal so it will be useful, Refresh (or however it's called in EOI) Level it enough to get the Party bonus.

That's as much as I remember for now, wish I could help more but I'm heading to work and I don't have my DS at the moment.
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>>135382807
HP in Fortress is not capped actually, so I may just add some HP Forges to her Mace. Let me take a photo and I'll reply soon.
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>>135382807
>Thats what I thought, then the second boss fucked me sideways,
Were you using Wufan's snare circle?
Not like I can blame anyone for not thinking of that since the game doesn't tell you what binds are for, nor why you should try at all when sniper's hardly ever lands.

Instead I went but a hit rate up buff.
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>>135383119
I didn't use wufan, I use snipers, they're more fun earlygame, endgame I use arcanists as healers.
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>>135383170
You had both for that battle though.
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>Nightseeker's ailments rarely land
>Sniper can never bind anything
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>>135383238
No, you don't understand, I didn't use any arcansits until later in the game, I didn't like how they looked.

>>135383060
If you want a reference, scan this, its my tank, she SHOULD be enough to help you out, if not I dunno whats different about your game. Jsut scan the code and either register her or check her skill set.
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>>135377932
It's hard not to notice, though, since EO on Picnic/Casual is really tremendously easy.

In IV you take half damage and deal double damage.

In U2 it's even worse, you deal triple damage, take a quarter damage, and heal triple HP. It's really meant to be so easy that the game offers no challenge at all, for those people who want to rush through or who want to focus on relaxing dungeon exploration.

It's like not realizing you're getting oveleveled in Pokémon XY and need to turn off exp share, which also only happens to literal retards.
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>>135383060
Sorry for the bad quality, I'm heading to work in bus. I'll show the skills in my next post, that one looks better.
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>>135383447
Well, if you gave away the possibility of having a sixth party member (and maybe didn't use sniper's anti-evade options either), then of course it would be harder.
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>>135383494
And skills, sub Dancer with Max Fan Dance and Burst Saver and Lv1 Quick Step.
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>>135383465
Or you want to do mindless grinding.
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>>135382910
Ok seems good enough. I was thinking of max Hell cry/ Crush for my axe focused landsknecht. But the composition seems to be a working one. I just need to grind a bit to hit the lvl 60 with my whole team and it should work it out.

Thanks Anon.
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Waiting for subclasses and Bushi is annoying. I want them now.
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>>135383834
Don't spend on Hell Cry, you'll do better just using Crush first turn after Troubadour's Bravery. Allslash is also amazing to grind, go to B21F and grind the spiders, with Max Bravery and Allslash you should be able to take the whole horde in one hit, then if you feel comfortable, go to B25F and grind just outside the boss room, more mobs per battle.
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>>135383494
>>135383656
At first glance i don't like your tank. I dont quite understand why you invested in strike/element gaurd, rampart, but didnt cap holy smite and line sheild. Healing wall is a great support skill that helps when your party needs a bit of extra hp and has a breather turn whent he healer has another job to do. Also, you need ot take great advantage of the dancer skills, setting up with freedom waltz, referesh waltz, and regen waltz makes the first set of turns with the dragon much more bearable, especially if you use something to bind the dragons body.

In my opinion, a tank should be an impenetrable wall of steel first, and an attacker second. Youre main goal with the tank is to take every bit of abuse in place of the rest of your party every turn. While you're build has obviously worked for you up till now, you should highly consider building her as either a full support tank or changing around your party to compensate for the lack of exceptional protection. I recommend using geo impact first turn, setting up the freedom waltz on the dancer and regen waltz on fort, and then attempt to bind the dragons head with your arcanist, then setup volt rune with runemaster and I dunno about landy, i've never used one.
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>>135384403
I didn't invest in Dancer Skills because my Dancer currently has all those skills and has worked fine until now. I didn't see much use in Healing Wall but i'll consider it, and Rampart has saved me several when I manage to set it. I had forgotten about Geo Impact's stun change so I'll give it a try. Thanks for the help, I'll give it another go after work.
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>>135384752
worst case scenario you build a new team from the ground up, what I typically do is get a tool to hold down the A button, put my to-beleveled- party in that one forest up ont eh cliffs in the first map int he top left corner, set the game to auto move, then come back a few hours later to move everyone to a new dungeon to auto grind. and do that about three times and then build my new teams skills.
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>>135384915
Not him but: the Dense Bushland? The one with all the Bloodbears and scorpions? Doesn't seem like a good place to auto-grind.
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>>135385307
when you have endgame gear and gear isnt level locked, its pretty easy.
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>>135385351
Oh, well that makes sense.
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IN EO2U WHAT BEST LEVEL 10X10 SKILL OR LEVEL 5X5 SKILL

AM PLAY STORY THANK
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>>135385775
W-what's gonna happen?
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>>135386262

Piggyback rides.
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What is this?
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>>135386440
Probably that card game that Himukai worked on.
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>>135386440
delicious brown
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>>135386440
my dick
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>>135386440
King Solomon, evidently.
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>>135386763
>king (female)

why is this allowed
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>>135387156
Because apparently you don't know who Solomon is.
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not from this general but could you guys tone down the little girl pics? i gave up cute lolis for lent and this is making it hard for me to keep with it.
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>>135387597
No fuck you, go away, never come back, little girls are love, little girls are life.
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>>135387597
but little girls are cute anon
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>>135387597
>ever doing lent
Bait taken
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>>135387597
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>>135387597
>making it hard
I bet it is.
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>>135387910
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>>135384915
I'm sure I can beat it with this team. Is a Link team anyway, I just need a different strategy.

I actually got one of each class, with two Lands and two Medics (because own character and scruffy Medic AKA Best Medic) and the story characters all with ultimate armors and levels from the training scrolls. I just need to grind for more money to buy their end game weapons also.
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Should I be trying to master my status ailments/binds on my Nightseeker and Sniper? Or should I prioritize putting points into other skills?

Seems like most of the skills for those classes require ailments/binds, but I don't know how much better those debuffs get with each point put into them.
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>>135387597
>hey guys post qt lolis
I appreciate what you're doing, anon.
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>>135388772
Nightseeker is made to throw pocket sand and Sniper is made to Squall Volley to turn your chase machine into a chase DEATH machine

alternative for sniper is accuracy moves fighting those fucking bird FOE
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Whats her fucking problem
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>>135389095
If you'd play the game you'd know
If you've played the game then you're just a shitposting fag

Nobody wants to talk about a non loli bitch
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>>135388246
>grind money
I've literally never had to do that.

>>135388772
it depends, if you want a support/dps go ailments, binds, then shadow bite with blade fury, if you want dps/support go ailments, blade fury/assassinate/binds. How far into the game are you?
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>>135389029
Yeah, Nightseeker's blind ailment has been invaluable so far. I only just got to veteran rank, so my skill points are a bit spread out right now. Was trying to decide if I should max out Sand Throw for now.

>>135389201
Second floor of Misty Ravine. Party is all level 21.
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>>135389095
She's old
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>>135389334
delete this
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>>135388882

n-no pls my purity is at steak.

it would be simply awful if more cute lolis got posted.
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>>135389706
>my purity is at steak.
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>>135389310
>21
>reread your post
Oh, you're not using a nightseeker/sniper, youre using a night seeker AND sniper. That changes things, go full bind support with sniper and full ailment/shadow bite on night seeker. When oyu unlock arcanist and bushi/sub classing your party will probably drastically change.

What you're going to want to do is when you get sub classing option, if youre party isnt all 40+, grind them to 40 and then retire them all and get a stronger party, level them up,t hen start actually playing again. You COULD continue with that party until end game, but by the time you see what bushi can do you want one on your team because of theri self sustain, and arcansits pair extremely wwell with night seekers, medics, and snipers, so chances are youll want to replace your sniper with an arcanist/sniper for the lv10 ailment boost arcansits get at lv40, which is arguably better than a sniper in most cases. Unless you really love snipers, youll end up replacing them, arcanists can bind entire hordes, while snipers are typically stuck with one or two at a time.
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>>135389095
She's bitter as fuck and doesn't know how to let go of the past
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>>135389029
>>135389310
I've been pushing Ice Knife and dual wield (poison weapons), and Shadow Cloak with my Nightseeker. Don't use the throws much. Am I doing it wrong?
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>>135390048
Maybe it's because I played without voices but she seemed pretty amiable.
At least compared to the old man always trying to pick a fight.
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>>135390080
Throws are mainly for mid to endgame when there are lots of enemies a lot of the time. When fighting thee superboss, spread throw can make everything so much easier.
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>>135389953
Snipers shouldn't be binding past the second stratum anyway. Squall Volley is way better.

Especially with that glitch where the game forces every hit to critical after the first crit proc.
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>>135390243
Cool. Then I'm in the right. I also happen to have a sniper as well, so >>135390513 sounds like I'm on the right track.
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>>135385769
10x10 = 100
5x5 = 25

So a level 10x10 skill will be 4 times stronger than a level 5x5 skill, duh.
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>>135390513
>Snipers shouldn't be binding past the second stratum anyway.
Tell that to yourself.
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>>135391158
There's no reason to rely on Sniper binds when Arcanists exist.
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>>135390837
no what are the skill e- blade master 10 10 v parry 5 5

best # for the amaze
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>>135391704
In English, please
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>>135391704
i'd take parry
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>>135391846
this me am the best english i contain

>>135391923
i ask all of skill
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>>135391629
Not when you don't want to use them in your party.
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>>135184820
EO2 was my first EO game actually, but it was complete garbage so I dropped it after getting to the 3rd Stratum. EO4 was when the series became good.
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>>135392768
Fuck off already.
>>
BIG DAMAGE > MANY DAMAGE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnLAC5AJPuM
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>>135390184
I laughed at the times she talked, but i still haven't fought her.

>game says that she's being friendly with you
>portrait has a half-smug/half-angry face
>her voice sounds to serious to try to come up as friendly
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>>135392768
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>>135392012
they're the same just scaled differently. i guess 5 point max skills are more "efficient" but the skills aren't all that versatile
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>>135393051
Her smugness is reassuring. She didn't seem to be making fun of me or anything, so she looked like a friendly senpai. If I were a girl I'd be all over her.

So I'm glad I played without voices.
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>>135393417
Never seen that one before. That's so cute.
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I want an etrian odyssey facebook cover photo but I feel like this would be a bad idea
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>>135392924
Honestly imperials are still my favorite EO class ever. Really fun to have one
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>>135393791
Use the multimediko pic
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why is EO so dead
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>>135392834
Make me.
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>>135394463
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>>135394531
That's what I thought, fuccboi.
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>>135393791
Use a FOE.
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>>135393791
You can't go wrong with this one.
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>>135394929
I rather not be called a pedo
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>>135395115
>101x years
>pedo
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>>135395115

She's like 1015 years old. It's fine.
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>>135395187
Nice meme
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Which class would you fuck?
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I wish there were higher resolution imperial pictures
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>>135395223
She is older or the same as Arianna, and Arianna is 16.
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>Etria
>blacksmiths have known for years how to make guns
>yet not a single explorer knows how to use them

I call bullshit.
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>>135395327

All of them.
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>>135368606
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N52qy21ESl0
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>>135398729
I have trouble imagining people liking Ricky unironically
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>>135395187
>>135395223
What's her bilogical age?
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>>135399196
Around 16-18
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>>135388171
>Being into toddlercon
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>>135399196
I always thought around 13-14-ish. Little younger than highlander, who's younger than fafnir, who's 18-ish.
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>>135399348
>not being into toddlercon
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>>135399538
>Not being into not being into toddlercon
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>>135398729
muh dick
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>>135399458
Highlander looks like 19-20 to me.
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>>135399832
Fur and his battle pose make him look intimidating, but he's a pretty boy.
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>>135383328
>>Sniper can never bind anything

Then you're using it wrong somehow
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>>135399832
Fafnir's confirmed to be Arianna's age (18) or a little older, and the art book materials confirm that he's older than Highlander.

Highlander also looks super young in some of his official artwork.
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>>135392924
What about MANY BIG DAMAGE?
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>>135393791
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>>135400579
Highlander looks older than me and I'm fucking 25.

Fucking genes.
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>>135400862
No more gays, only many big damage.
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>>135393791
Nah, the obvious choice would be to use one of the backgrounds or stratum intro pics.
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>>135393791
>>135401085
Well, if we're going to post suggestions:
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>>135401726
>>135401726
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