/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

Will we ever get a level better than 3-1? Will DeS ever be topped?

I doubt it

first for your favorite weapon, here: _____________

>>128035004
Bloodborne already did

>>128035004
Latria wasn't THAT good.

Shrine of Storms > Tower of Latria

DS2 SOTFS pvp is ded. Nice game memers. 2mil soul memory can't find any shitters.

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Hi guys, Menas here. Anybody wants a commission?
Of course, I'll give you a big discount, as you're my best buddies from /dsg/ who helped me to improve a lot with their constructive critique and friendly support, and now I'm a popular and pespected artist in Souls community.
So, feel free to ask any time.

Will DS3 have region lock?

>>128035394
Demons Souls in general has the highest average quality for level design

It's the only Souls game that feels finished desu

>>128035579

You're SM is too low. The game has been out for quite a while already. All good players and PvP'rs are high SM.

>>128035579
Go to an orange area
Use CREO
Boom

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~Canon Souls Husbando Tier List~
(in order of appearance)

GOD TIER:
Dark Sun Gwyndolin
Solaire of Astora
Oscar of Astora
Sir Artorias the Abysswalker
Everlasting Dragon
Manus, Father of the Abyss
Hawkeye Gough
Fume Knight Raime
Havel the Rock
Laurentius of the Great Swamp
Dragonslayer Ornstein
Ivory King
Creighton the Wanderer
Lautrec of Carim
Bell Gargoyle
Marvelous Chester
Oswald of Carim
Black Dragon Kalameet
Seath the Scaleless
Velstadt the Royal Aegis
Royal Sorcerer Navlaan
Vendrick

COMPLETELY ACCEPTABLE TIER:
Ancient Dragon
Siegmeyer
Mild-mannered Pate
Domnhall of Zena
Old Iron King
Frampt
Executioner Smough
Big Hat Logan
Kaathe

GET THE FUCK OUT TIER:
Everyone else

>>128035614

No? DeS is the only one with a region lock I don't see why they would bring it back.

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>>128035579
Go up to 3 SM. Tons of activity

>>128035614
Why would they?

>>128035634

>>128035839
Where the cuck is Bjorn and other people from DeS retard

>>128035876
if it doesn't exist it can't be shit

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Well, who's the best Souls artist?

1. MenasLG
2. Scathegrapes
3. Tamyra
4. P8&C8-anon

>>128035634

I have a feeling they worked on one area at a time and ran out of time while making >>128035876 so they just cut it. This way the unfinished stuff isn't littered all over the world.

>>128035736
>CREO limited quantity unless you can luckily get an endless cycle of arena and invasion wins
>>128035876
K i'll try that

>>128035068
currently on my first playthrough, powerstancing The Greatsword and Pursuers UGS. Just the greatsword by itself gets my motor running

>>128036178
>doesn't know how blood arena works
Ha

No seriously though you don't know shit and you claimed the game was dead, if its dead post a webm of you trying to invade in an orange area and failing 4 times in a row.

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Am I supposed to know who the people I'm killing are? Every time I get a "great soul embraced" message I'm surprised because I have no idea who these people are and their fights aren't particularly hard. Just killed the rotten and before that lost sinner.

>>128036339
Don't worry. Dark Souls 2 doesn't have a story. Just enjoy the epic difficulty xD

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>>128036293

anyone have the latest ds2 weapon tier list?

Why the fuck is the first bonfire for Tomb of the Giants not right after Pinwheel?

>>128036695
fume sword is greater than the others

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>the chariot's horse in the middle of nowhere in Drangleic Castle
>ruin sentinals for no reason
>desert sorceresses who somehow climbed all the way up in that freezing rain, evaded all the statues and ghouls, and are just hanging out in the storage room
I don't get it
At least in Lost Izalith you can go "oh they're demons so they're hanging out in their home"
For what fucking reason are those enemies there? Fuck this game

>>128036770
enjoy the epic f*cking diifculty brohan!!! This is Dark Souls!!!

>>128036770
Because Pinwheel is not a boss.

>>128035634
On the other hand, it has world 2-2, which is a serious contender for worst area in the series.

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And remember - THIS is the only correct chart of DaS bosses.
Otherwise you're a dirty cumguzzling faggot who wants to confuse newfriends.

>pinwheel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb-HRDIiRXA

>>128037112
?

2-2 was fine

if anything 5-2 is the worst because no rusted iron ring

>>128036770
Pinwheel isn't all that difficult, and the next bonfire isn't too far ahead.

Besides if it was right after pinwheel you'd have to do the slip and slide down the coffins again.

>>128036954
SotFS did have a lot of sensible new enemy placements- the Flexile Sentry in the Sinner's Rise pool, the big Lost Bastille mummy nigger on the No Man's Wharf ship, the Pursuers actually pursuing you across the world. It also had some really stupid fucking bullshit.

>>128036954
My personal favourite are the twin flexile sentries in Eleum Loyce just watching over a key in a sealed cave.

>>128036954
>caring about the lore implications of enemy placement in DaS2

DaS2 created a promising basis for lore but chose to just shovel in DaS1 fanservice instead of building on what it had. Don't worry about it.

>>128037261
Pinwheel isn't hard, but giving the player that many souls and then requiring them to get past a bunch of incredibly hard-hitting enemies while they try to find the next bonfire is just setting them up to lose those souls. And if you do die, if you want to get back, you have to go through a room with five or six wheel skeletons in it.

Yo.

Do people still play DaS, or is 2 more popular now?

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>>128036074
I'd say Sca. He's a miracle among Souls artists (not as godly as Menas tho but still very, very talented).

>>128037112
>worst area in the series
Seriously, does anybody still doubt it's NOT the ruins of Shitlondo's Great Public Toilet?

>>128036954
>ruin sentienals
>literally the same enemy copy pasted 3 times
>not visually different so it's hard to keep track of one if you want to focus down one
>their retarded "spin in a circle with your hammer" like they're a fucking child playing swords and think spinning is an unbeatable tactic

Honestly that bossfight is so fucking stupid.

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>>128037465
>think spinning is an unbeatable tactic
>implying spinning isn't a good trick

>>128037112
>worst area in the series

Yo I haven't played demon souls but black gulch is honestly making me want to quit I can't believe this shit. Why the fuck did they drop an NPC invader in with a bunch of fucking poison statues everywhere staggering you and draining your health?

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>>128036074
Tammy <3

>>128037658
Just go really, really, really slow smashing every statue as you go it's super fun :^)

>>128037572
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTWjJDh87SE

>>128037442
steamcharts dot com
or if thats too hard
google dot com "Dark souls 1 steamcharts" "Dark souls 2/Dark souls 2 scholar of the first sin steamcharts"

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>>128037447

>>128037658
>not taking Black Gulch slowly and breaking all the statues

Demon Ruins/Lost Izalith was shittier.

>>128037658
You can just run past them all pretty easily.

>>128037879
>break every statue
>fight NPC dude
>die because holy fuck stamina for days
>all the statues I meticulously broke are back

t-thanks

>>128038030
Just keep at it. Remember, dying is part of the Dark Souls Experience(tm)!

>>128038030
>cant deal with 0 poise woodland children
Is this a new epic maymay or some shit?

>>128038263
>0 poise

How do they poise through my Zweihänder then?

>>128038432
Hyperpoise
Nigga you dumb

>>128038263
>0 poise

I know for a fact the guy that invades you in black gulch does not have 0 poise.

>>128038491
That's not 0 poise then.

Everytime the Iron Golem falls off the ledge I'm reminded he's the worst boss in Dark Souls

>>128038503
Gets staggered by a rapiers R1 when not in an attack animation
Thats pretty much as low as you can get buddy

>>128038628
>hyperpoise
>poise
>same thing
I stand by my previous statement, nigga you dumb

>>128038713
Well, Taurus Demon fucking hops off the ledge voluntarily so he's probably worse

>>128038713
That's not Dragonrider.

>>128038713
>enter boss arena
>wind blast hits the ground

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reminder that this is the future you chose

>>128038914
fugg, even with this gif i'm excited to start my bloodborne playthrough

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>>128038914
AWAY
AWAY
>>>/bbg/

>>128038982
Protip you can parry the grab

>>128038914
I didn't vote for it.

>>128038837
Really? I've never seen it do that before.

>>128038914

Anyone else just want to shove their hand in that brain mass?

>>128038719
What the fuck is hyperpoise. Is that like super armor in smash bros or something, what the fuck?

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After trying to figure how to kill these two faggots, the host disconnects the second I kill his stupid overleveled phantom.

At this point, I think I prefer disconnecting hosts at the last minute as opposed to indictments. I just know they're just boiling with hate.

>>128038982
I'd say for you not to get your hopes up too much. I've been playing it for a month now and while it does have good things about it, it handles a lot of things terribly. The worst are invasions and how 60% of the game is optional.

>>128039312
what level are you? do you just invade forest?

>>128039275
Hyperpoise is hyperpoise I'm not going to bother trying to explain it to someone who is pretending to be retarded or actually this dumb.
Maybe you'll get lucky and someone else will wast their time writing up the expanation for you

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Why do all the good fights in DaS contained in large open areas or specific areas?

Let me first list for you, all the fights in Large, Medium, and Small sized arenas. Just read the names and ignore the letters for now.

>Spacious, larger Arenas
Kalameet (A)
Quelaag (A)
O&S (A)
Four Kings (B)
Gaping Dragon (B)
Gwyn (C)
Artorias (A)
Sanctuary Guardian (A)
Sif (A)

>Medium-sized Arenas
Asylum Demon (B)
Bell Gargoyles (A)
Priscilla (B)
Gravelord Nito (B)
Manus (A)
Demon Firesage (C)

>Cramped, smaller Arenas
Stray Demon (B)
Capra Demon (C)
Ceaseless Discharge (C)
Centipede Demon (C)
Gwyndolin (B)
Iron Golem (B)
Moonlight Buttfly (C)
Taurus Demon (B)
Seath (B)
Pinwheel (C)

Just think to yourself how you would rate these fights. My opinion on them isn't the important thing here.

We may have some disagreements on the size of each arena or the quality of each boss, but I think we can agree that there is a correlation between arena size and quality of the fight. I put a letter next to each boss to signify if I personally think its an (A) good, (B) average, or (C) poor fight in terms of overall quality.

This is incredibly interesting to me and I'd like to hear other's opinions on it.

>>128039559
Sorry that I'm apparently retarded for not having the extreme foresight to know that there is a new mechanic in DS2 that wasn't present previously that isn't explained.

Why even bother typing out the reply then anon you silly goose.

>>128038914
When is Bloodborne coming to the PC?

Okay

How the FUCK am I supposed to beat Maneaters without cheesing them

>>128039153
and just kinda wiggle it around? Sure

>>128039441
Invading the Royal Wood at SL60.

I invade anywhere and usually places I know I can be a pain in the ass.

PVP is insufferable. Swing, move away, roll. Dude stabs a spear 20 feet to my left and it still does full damage to me.

Why is this still not fixed in 2015?

>>128039669
Sanctuary Guardian's pool was no larger than Nito's arena.

>>128039832
There's a bundle being released together with dark souls 3, It will contain bloodborne, demon's souls and a jar of tears.

>>128039965
P2P

>>128039736
No your a retard for asking me instead of using google
Now keep being dumb and wrong, doesn't matter you are not actually a new player either, just someone pretending to be retarded to try and prove some asinine point that literally nobody cares about

>>128039869
Seperate them, and try to attack when one flies away or tries to power up. Also, dont cut the tail.

>>128039965
>he didn't walk around in circles

>>128039669
Man, I fucking loved manus. Beating him after he killed me time after time was the greatest triumph for me in Dark Souls.

>>128039965
>>128040125
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDUk80ef-Rk /dsg/ bottomless pit of retardation

>>128039994
Not necessarily, there are 3 bone giants in the back of his arena that limit the actual area you have to move in. I'd cut Nito's area in half - that's all you actually have.

>>128038713
>>128038837
>>128038902
Stupid AI is one thing, but Bed of Chaos is still the single worst thing in any Souls game.

>>128040282
this video is an awful reddit circlejerk, do not watch

>>128038713
Bed of Chaos?

Do people hate this boss so much they unconsciously put it out of their mind?

>>128040486
>watching any video that anyone posts ever

>>128040486

Already peeked, going to kill myself now.

>>128040298
Perhaps so. I'd agree that big arenas tend to correlate to good boss fights, perhaps because the arenas are made to reflect the boss itself. A good Souls bossfight is one with varied attacks that you have to be clever about dodging. Dodging is easiest in a large area. A boss fight in a small area is necessarily designed not around dodging, but around feeling panicked and trapped. See: Capra Demon.

>>128039736
You're being memed, no one calls it hyperpoise. Some attack animations give you a jillion poise during them to make greatweapons slightly less shit.

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>>128035605

Impressive filename 'Menas', totally legit boys lads.

>>128039134
Just make him face the edge, force him to do a few swings and he'll do his stupid back hop right off the bridge

>>128040282
>this exists in 2012+4 year of the lord

Fucking kek
DS3 is gonna be even worse

>>128040486
very different from your "SPINNING CREATES LAG" circlejerk, right?

>>128040658
Yeah, its this exactly, great point.

When you can't actually make use of the game mechanics properly it feels terrible.

>>128040193
Manus was easily the hardest boss for me, only boss I had to summon someone during my first playthrough.

Every DLC fight is incredible imo. I still get a hard on during Kalameet and Artorias and I've come to really enjoy the SG.

>>128040887
*face the wall, with his back to the broken edge
Not sure where I was going with that first post

>>128040901
It's a parody. Spinning does not create lag, it's something das1 players who couldn't handle das2 pvp started spewing around reddit and infested dsg for quite some time.

>>128041131
I meant that this video exists. Not the spinning thing. But seriously P2P is garbando

>>128039965
I've always hated it, but I enjoy having player notes around and being able to do co-op when I want to, so I'm stuck with the constant chance of assholes coming in to stop my progress in the game.

Seriously, I don't know why so many people love it so much, but to each their own I guess.

>>128041213
someone had to make fun of the retards who actually believe spinning in place creates latency

>>128041331
It doesn't create latency, it just exploits it.

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>>128041725
lmao hahahaha how? It sends packets upside down?

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>finally defeat woodland child gully
>thank fuck at least I won't have to go through that again
>drop down to an area where I see a message
>proceed slowly into spoopy cave
>two giants in there (I thought I already killed the last giant what the fuck man)
>get rekt by the asshole faces, had a bunch of souls on me
>okay no big deal, I can just take it super slow and get back down there, grab my souls and homeword bone out
>messing with my inventory to get the cat ring that makes you not take as much fall damage after I've spent a long time clearing out all the poison statues and handmonsters
>Invaded by Dark Spirit Gully!
>are you fucking serious
>panic and spin around, throw up my shield as he charges at me
>he smacks my shield five fucking times in row and pushes me off the cliff
>die and lose 50k souls

FUCK THIS

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS AFTER DEFEATING AN NPC INVADER THEY KEEP INVADING YOU IN THAT SAME AREA

IS THIS THEIR FUCKING IDEA OF DIFFICULTY LE PREPARE TO DIE BULLSHIT

YES IM MAD AS FUCK

>>128042180
You got invaded by Victor, his twin brother.

>>128042180
>2nd time
>>Invaded by Dark Spirit Gully!
psshh as if kid

Can you even fathom that soon we will have an entire new game to dissect

And it will probably get expansions

Thank you god

>>128042180
R u really complaining about 50k. That's like literally nothing.

>>128042536
After bloodborne, I'm not that anxious anymore.

>>128042073
In reverse obviously.
Don't forget DS1 uses techomagic to silhouette the speed of light to create completely lag free multiplayer experience

>>128042791
>>128042791
>In reverse obviously.
so that's how this video was created https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr5sp5buEcQ

>>128037158
Where are the Four Kings?

>>128042180
>not going to the safe room with the chest in the back of the arena and killing the giants with poison arrows/bolts

Why is Heide's Tower so boring. I mean it's one of the most atmospheric and good looking part of the game, yet the gameplay there is really simple, just like the lazy level design.

>Go to blood arena, sit crouched for 10 minutes, finally get a fight, dude teleports behind me, punches me and I instant die

Great game

>>128044602
Or worse, it's just another fume sword with dark weapon fag

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>>128036339
What kind of creature is that?

>>128044560
>think I'm being smart leading the train of enemies following me into the dragon at Heide's tower
>the dragons flame and stomps do literally 20 damage to them

t-thanks

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You don't use katanas right /dsg/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkKWdrdxngo

Oh wow it really can suicide

>>128044978
no thank god, Greatswords or daggers

>>128045017
>go in the forest
>get flanked by taurus demon

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;_;

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>>128044978
>katanas

I may play the souls series, but I am not that autistic.

>>128045425
Who is this chimp?

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>>128044901
It's an inkling from splatoon

>>128045017
>"You Defeated" is in english

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I really hope they have an Old Monk style boss fight in Dark Souls 3

>>128045425
Careful there's a skeltal

>>128045826
Problem with Old Monk is that every invader you got was some faggot who would try to Wrath of the Gods you through the fog wall, and if you got the NPC invader then it was a shitty claws faggot who was never a threat

http://mmdks.com/7w0n

This is the best Dragonbro I could come up with on my own. It uses the Havel's Greatshield R2 to get poise instead of the wolf ring (you unequip it after buffing so you can ninja flip). Is there anything I should do to improve it?

(also it's supposed to have a canvas talisman equipped in the left hand)

>>128045826
The Mirror Knight invasions were a pretty nice idea I think.

>>128045826
Looking Glass Knight style would be better
IE an actual boss with a player summon as an addition, having a player replace the entire boss can be such a shitshow, having a boss with the addition of a player is much better

>>128044978
I don't use them because all they will teach you is to go for trades and running attacks. They have some cool movesets, though.

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>>128034883
what is this giant doing here, doesn't seem to be any way to get there

Umbasa

>>128047184
Y'know the first bridge that drops into the pit of tar? After the first ladder up from the pit there's an illusory wall that has a bigger ladder that goes there. (I think).

>>128047184
There is actually for you anyway, how he got there is magic. He is the one that opens the gate

>>128047184
You can get there. Drop down into the pit at the start of the funhouse

>>128047184
Isn't that the secret entrance within Sen's? You break a wall then climb up to it, right?

>>128047451
>>128047471
>>128047472
>>128047484
alright, thanks. imma go investigate

Maybe I should've kept some of those clothes that I gave to Rosabeth after all

>there are no dead bodies with items on them that awaken during your item pick up animation and perform a grab attack

What are From's designers even there for?

>>128046852
>>128046893
It was nice in theory but the fact it was almost impossible to get summoned for the mirror knight completely ruined it. Even right now with how dead the online is for Demon's Souls I can easily get summoned for the Old Monk. When Dark Souls 2 was new I would wait hours and get maybe 2 invasions if I was lucky.

>tfw you keep calling him Mirror Knight and forgetting his name is actually Looking Glass Knight

On that subject, I've never had that much fun with such a disappointingly easy fight before.

>>128047989
That's why I said the idea was nice. The implementation was awful. The loading time was sometimes enough to get either you or the Mirror Knight killed before you were even in control of you character, not to mention that it's actually really hard to get summoned.

>>128048526
I had no idea those were actual summons. Thought he just spawned NPC black phantoms.

>>128047973
>implying we need "le spooby corpse jumpscares in DaS"

please fucking no

>>128047989
Yeah it was dumb, it was restriced to NG+ in vanilla, you couldn't really judge SM for it because the orange outlines for it were the same ones as the final boss and he sometimes wouldn't summon at all, sometimes you would be summoned when he had 10% health left and so on
But as an idea it was far better than having the boss be replaced entirely by a player because you can still maintain some level of control over how the fight will go

>go to arena
>everyone uses dark weapon
Dead Game, no fun allowed

>>128048764
You get a special message if its a player summon, he has like 2 NPCs he can summon for the fight as well

>enemy jumps into the air to attack me
>move out of the way
>they pull some TF2 airstrafing to change direction in the air and hit me

I can't even be mad it's too funny to me seeing it happen

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>Hey so I know I'm the reason Oolacile went to shit
>And I'm also the reason New Londo went to shit
>but dude you should totally trust me. Would this face mislead you? Join my covenant dude

fuk u kaathe

>>128049560
You know whats the best part? People will still side with him and go for the Dark Lord ending.
Dude knows how to make a compelling argument

>>128049560
Don't blame the genie for granting the wishes of the requester chosen undead

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>>128049710
He's more like the snake in the garden of eden than a genie.

>yfw christian parallels in muh jap games

>>128049904
>"i've chosen the word evangellion because it sounded complicated."
souls lore in a nutshell

>>128049560
too bad he has the best covenant

Please call me shit, I hit a wall in DS2. I'm lvl80 turtle ultra greatsword build and I can't kill the giant spider, smelter, and ugly black gultch boss. Wtf git gud? Need tips

>>128035068
Craftsman's Hammer

Beautiful, beautiful backstabs.

>>128048942
You can Mirror Squire in NG, at least in vanilla you can.

>>128050353
Learn how to dodge and keep lightweight to maneuver yourself to favorable positions

http://mmdks.com/7w0y

fuck the police

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I feel shameful, wearing these rags

>>128050353
The rotten is easy peasy, you're not fat rolling are you? It's much better to dodge his shit than try and tank it with a shield.

>>128050353
Freya is easy as long as you keep to her side and get rid of the small spiders asap. For the others, as >>128050567 said, learn to dodge. Maybe put something in ADP if you haven't.

Is Manus the furtive pygmy?

>>128050353
Yo what's your SM and platform?
I'm subroing right outside the smelter fight and can help you out

>>128050529
Only in scholar unless they patched it out way later, it was NG+ only in release for whatever reason

>>128051115
You can invade from NG, but only be invaded in NG+ and on

>>128051449
You are agreeing with me in the most roundabout way imaginable.

>>128050806
L O N D O

O

N

D

O

>>128051653
I appreciate this joke

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>>128051653
10/10

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>>128036954
Oh FUCK no after the shrine of winter i have to face another fucking chariot? god please no not this bullshit.

>>128051609
Wh... what? I was clrifying the argument. The two of you were saying the same thing but confusing each other. That was my first post in this thread

>>128050353
Poison works wonders on smelter

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>>128051653
Nice one, anon. Even though I suspect you're samefagging

>>128050606

Why Dragon Head? Just for fashion?

In DS2, at what point should I be doing the DLC? I'm around the end of the game and have no clue when to do them.

>>128052656
After you get the Ashen Mist Heart, they are purely endgame difficulty areas.

>>128051653
>>128051809
>>128051939
>>128052348
I dont get it

please help me senpai

>>128052485
Dragon breath man. I use it for pokes, gap closing and shield break/stagger. At this point I don't really have a build without it.

>>128052931
Someone post qt girl
Then someone say pls be in london
But since this is video game
He said londo instead as in new londo

Why didn't anyone tell me gravelording was this fun

>>128052931
Whenever an attractive person was posted a guy on /fit/ would constantly say "please be in londo/pls be london" which eventually other people started picking up as a joke and just typing out L O N D O N when an attractive person is posted.

The joke is that it's L O N D O instead of Londo because Anor Londo in Dark Souls.

>>128052348
He's not, I told him I appreciated his joke and someone else did the 10/10 thing

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>>128049560

>The end goal of the game is to kill Gwyn, who fucked everything up by restarting the age of fire
>He'd rather be a cuck and restart the world again

nigga u gay

>>128053375
2013 did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxpwABDCxOU

>>128053375
It's not as fun as it could be for me because you never actually get to see the results of your gravelording. If you could be an invisible phantom that can't interact with anything watching your black phantoms fucking up the host it'd be more fun.

>>128053606
For me it's amusing enough just seeing the random interactions between blues and reds

>>128053462
>he'd rather be a cuck and do what kaathe wants when he only cares about expanding the abyss because he fucking lives in it

holy shit I was not prepared for iron keep

I though I'd just run for the zweihander and leave

the early parts are easy, even the part with archers, but as soon as I fall from the bridge onto the archer lane, holy shit so many fuckers appear

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>>128053462
>>128054027
>cuck isn't wordfiltered anymore

I still hate that memeword, n00t pls put the filter back

>>128053462
There are people who want to be slaves to gods and continue living in an age of fire, why so scared of humanity?

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>>128051653

>You? Go home?
Gavlan wheel, Gavlan deal. Gavlan feel.

Anyone wanna play Demons Souls? SL125 lookin' for a bro to play through the game again with
PSN MurderMachineG69

http://mmdks.com/7w14

should something like this even exist?

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>Dark Souls 2 big fancy opening cutscene is about you and how bad it is being undead rather then world of drangleic and the old ones

well that's kind of lame. I didn't realize a boss I was fighting was one of those important old ones until I'd already killed it and gotten an achievement and special message for doing so.

>>128055397
>TWO zweihanders

>>128055513
>YOU SEE IVAN, WHEN YOU HOLD TWOHANDER IN EACH HAND, YOU HAVE POWER OF FOURHANDER!

Rigsy, that was the stupidest god damn fight.

>>128037440
doesn’t pinwheel give you like 15k? that’s not a lot by any stretch. besides, you can always homeward out. and falling from the ledges on the right places lets you skip almost every enemy. it’s not unfair if the game provides you the tools and you don’t use them

DaS2, what the fuck is up with this half health undead shit with human effigys. So tired of not having anymore human form and just running around half naked half health

>>128056373
I think he gives you 20k, which is a pretty fair amount depending on when you fight him.
But yeah, just bone out. Pretty sure he drops a bone.

>>128056967
1) Stop dying
2) Get the Ring of Binding from in front of Ornstein's fight, it limits your max health while hollowed to 75% HP instead of 50%.

>>128056967
DaS2 has problems.
Find the ring of binding in the tower of flame. It's essential for new folks.

>>128057075
Just another useless ring spot

>>128057225
>another useless ring spot

Usually, it would be. Not in your case though.

>>128057225
such is the fate of a shitter

>>128049560
>>kaathe is the reason oolacile went to shit
sauce?

>steam controller config for DS2 has the dodge button on the back stick
Innovation of the century

I am in my third playthrough
just reached undead parish bonfire

in my 2 previous playthroughs I never got a balder side sword, is it a hard to farm rare weapon?
I just want a dexterity weapon that I can use normal +15 against bosses without buffs. I intend to get 40 dexterity.
Any recommendation?

>>128058496
Er, not back stick, but back button

>>128058274
Gough says that the residents of Oolacile were "seduced by a toothy serpent"

>>128057075
no its in the chest at the front of the first dragonrider fight in heide tower

>>128058507
Its not really hard, just get some soft Humanity and kill all the Balder Knights. I'm running a Knight with the Balder Side Sword and its alright, at 23 DEX and +10 its feeling underpowered for Sen's Fortress

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>>128058867
right, there is only one of those...

>>128059067
Yeah, one who lives in the fucking abyss and created the darkwraiths from basically the same concept as what made oolacile go to hell, i.e. telling people to feed off humanities.

>>128059067
To be fair, Kaathe is the one responsible for New Londo and the Four Kings, and even partly for Artorias, though Manus obviously helped. It's a pretty good assumption to just blame him

>>128058867
It's not Kaathe's fault people didn't know what they were doing, he just provides the tools. What's wrong with giving kids explosives and knives?

>>128059234
>>128059226
Better than being the gods' bitch and keeping the Age of Fire going.

>>128059626
Sure, but the fall of Artorias is just sad

didnt the people of Oolacile torture Manus?
I remember the giant saying they drove him insane, whatever it means.

I am new to Dark Souls, and I was disappointed to see that both Manus and Artorias were not human when I played the dlc last week.
I expected Artorias to be a human knight, and Manus to be a human since he was the first human, not a giant monster.

>>128059226
where exactly do you think frampt was chilling before you rang the bells?
>>128059234
the way i see it, all the serpents are beasts of the abyss, trying to deceive players I MEAN CHOSEN UNDEADS to do stuff. they might have some agenda or doing it for the fuck of it. if the caduceus shields are any hint, they might actually be parts of the same being
eingyi is the mastermind, call vaati

>>128059935
Manus became the father of the abyss, so it makes sense that he was transformed into some kind of monster, don't you think.

>>128059935
There's plenty of mostly humanoid knight bosses in Dark Souls 2

>>128059935
Manus was driven insane and then went the way of the abyss, you can thank a serpent for helping out. Artorias tried to be a hero and went alone (with Sif, but the dude was a pup) to fight Manus and got his arm broken, ate some corruption and then got pushed over the edge to become a mess, you can thank a certain serpent for helping. Sif only escaped to become the big boss he became because you traveled back in time to rescue him from the abyss.

New Londo's Four Kings went the way of the abyss and the Darkwraiths popped up all over the place, so some nerds decided the best way to contain them was to flood it. In exchange the nerds killed the entire population and they became vengeful spirits. You can blame Kaathe entirely for this.

Manus being defeated after rising to the title of Father of the Abyss let his abyss powers manifest shitty fights in Dark Souls 2. I totally blame him for the shitty final boss of the vanilla game

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>Killed by an invader
>No bloodstain appears
>Lose over 90 humanity and hundreds of thousands of souls
What the fucking fuck

>>128060624
Get good

>>128060383
>>128060505
>>128060516

at least this convinced me to always link the fire, darkness a shit.

>>128060624
just parry it

>>128060516
You sure there was an abyss before Manus? I always thought Manus was the one who started all the abyss shit, just like the Witch of Izalith gave birth to the chaos.

>>128060516
manus’ insanity is related to the loss of his pendant, for which seath is at least partially responsible. but i’ve said it before, you’re reading into things too much. you can find lots of contradictory stuff in ds

>>128060947
You have chosen... poorly. The time of gods is over its the Age of Humanity! I'm hoping that DaS3 is about the Age of Humanity

>>128061101
The serpents existed before him, and they're meant to live inside the abyss. So yeah, it existed, he was just the first to actually use it and only after he went insane.

>>128061318
It's easier to claim Seathe's golem picked up the pendant rather than blaming him entirely for Manus's madness. Kalameet attacked Oolacile long before Seathe did anything. Seathe just wants all the magic, which is why his shitty butterfly went on an adventure and killed a blacksmith for no reason

>>128061318
Didn't chester take the other half of the pendant?

>>128061568
golems are generally mindless tools, inorganic matter given life. it seems weird that one would at random pick up something of such importance and another would randomly capture dusk. as for the blacksmith, you’d best ignore him. andre’s storyline was fucking butchered
>>128061604
not explicitly stated, i believe, but it’s pretty certain that he has personal experience on shadowy limbs snatching you through time

>>128061568
But Manus was the one to invent the spreading abyss, right? The abyss in Oolacile looked different than the one in New Londo, which was basically just nothingness, while Manus spread his shit everywhere, infecting everything.

>>128062675
Nah, I'm saying Seathe ordered his golems, yes. But that he shouldn't bear responsibility for Manus

https://youtu.be/3cj-hjYEASk?t=26m53s
>can cancel out of gestures
>can walk around during some
fuck yes, april can't come soon enough

>>128045425
WHAT THE FUCK IS UP WITH THOSE ARMS
SHE'S A GODDAMN STICK

>>128062675
It's incredibly likely that Seathe's golems were in Darkroot as they had been ordered to scavenge anything interesting they could find, as anything out of place would probably be related to Oolacile, and Seathe probably wanted to study the magic of Oolacile.

The golems would have randomly picked up all sorts of shit, including Seathe and the pendant.

And seeing as it's the CU possessing half of the pendant which draws Manus' attention to him, Chester probably has the other half.

>>128063191
>The golems would have randomly picked up all sorts of shit, including Seathe
I am now imagining legless seathe riding around on a bunch of golems

A streamer is doing a blind playthrough of the Souls series.

>tfw he will play through the game hollowed and you can't fuck with him as a dickwraith

>>128063538
Fucking hell I meant Dusk. Don't know how I managed that.

>>128063863
>souls series

just wait till he gets to 2?

>>128063863
Is this Skelegraw again?

>>128063863
thanks for the link dooface

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hosting a FC at blue cathedral
rules:
SL 150
2-3 mil SM
no cheating

use name engraved ring: god caitha

>>128064009
Going to be a while. He ain't the brightest.
>>128064012
>>128064073
It's Fairlight_Excalibur on twitch.

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>>128064516

Is this vanilla DaS2?

>>128064649
>>128064516
oh i forgot, its scholar of first sin

As a member of the PC aryan master race
is there any way I can play demon souls?
is there some emulator ive never heard of?

>>128064838
Retard

>>128064838
PS3 emulation is slowly chugging along now, wait a few more years for Demon's Souls to run well and be playable.

>>128065501
>2016
>can't play 2009 game

then why are PC master race at all

>>128064838
>PC master race

any hope of help went out the window when you typed that
I have a friend who does that shit IRL and it's the most awful thing ever

>>128065501
Even PS2 emulation still isn't complete and you need a good fucking computer to do it.

>>128065608
As a guy with only a $2000 PC and a WiiU as my systems to play vidya on I can safely say my backlog will last me long enough that I don't mind waiting for PS3 emulation for like 5 more years or so.

>>128064516
if nobody shows up in 15 minutes well call off the FC

>>128065608
Emulation is really difficult.

>>128065905
but I can play dark souls, dark souls 2, bloodborne, dark souls 3 and probably bloodborne 2 all in the time it will take before I can play demons souls the only actually worthwhile game of the bunch

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>>128065905
>WiiU

>>128067231
the only system with games desu.

>inb4 list of second hand weeb games.

>>128064516
>>128064689
>>128065954

Dead game so we're shutting down

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I just started dark souls and beat the gargoyle guys and rang the bell. Is there an order the game wants you to beat its bosses or you just do whatever? The game doesn't really tell you shit. Where do I go next?

Why do humans hate the undead? Is it because they slay humans and other undead to retain humanity?

If you've ever seen Legend of the Seeker undead seem similar to banelings.

Why doesn't 2handing and having a shield on your offhand worn on your back give you protection from backstabs?

>>128067843
Because everyone having a Grass Crest on their back isn't annoying enough

>>128067843
Because that'd be imbalanced.

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>>128067714
jus do whatever u want senpai

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>>128067714
Try down

>>128067714
1. Undead Asylum
2. Firelink Shrine
3. Undead Burg (Main)
4. Undead Burg (Upper)
5. Undead Parish (Outside)
6. Undead Parish (Inside of the Church)
7. Undead Burg (Basement)
8. Depths (Upper)
9. Depths (Lower)
10. Blight Town (Entrance)
11. Blight Town (Lower / Swamp Area)
12. Quelaag’s Domain
13. The Great Hollow
14. Ash Lake
15. Firelink Shrine (Revisit)
16. Undead Asylum (Revisit)
17. Sen’s Fortress (Lower / Middle Area)
18. Sen’s Fortress (Upper / Rooftop Area)
19. Anor Londo (Outside)
20. Anor Londo (Inside the Castle)
21. Painted World of Ariamis
22. Darkroot Garden
23. Darkroot Basin
24. Valley of Drakes
25. New Londo Ruins
26. The Duke’s Archives
27. Crystal Cave
28. The Catacombs (Upper area)
29. The Catacombs (Lower area)
30. Tomb of the Giants
31. Demon Ruins
32. Lost Izalith
33. Kiln of the First Flame *Final Boss*

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>>128068403
>going to Ash Lake without the Lordvessel
Oh shit nigger, what are you doing?

>go to blood arena so I can stock up on orbs
>every other fight is hexers and/or Brume Sword with dark weapon
>all other fights are laggy UGS
Great. Maybe I'll get to 99 orbs one day senpai.

Where should I leave my summon sign for Anor londo coop, and what level?

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>set of legs finally has cuisses
finally, i'm sick of nearly every set of leggings in the series never having any thigh protection

can't wait to farm these guys for their armor

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A curious little story.

Remember the shield contest for Dark Souls II?

I was hyped as fuck back then. I even took part in the contest and got a fairly large share of votes on my shield.

Well - The contest ended and I wasn't exactly surprised that I didn't win.

Then Dark Souls II actually came out and like any person with any common sense, I would see what it was like before purchasing it.

And well, it looked like crap.

That was until some month ago or so, I bought the Scholar of the First Sin package because I had just replayed Dark Souls 1.

And guess what?

I came across the Crimson Parma shield. It's not exactly the same design - but the resemblance is uncanny. I was so fucking happy that my submission - as humble as it was - actually did get in the game in some form.

Fuck yeah.

Here's the submission. Can you see the resemblance too?

>>128069146
It does looks similar. They added a bump in the middle and some more read but other than that it's the same

>>128068624
>not just summoning the collectors edition for CREOs

>>128067834
Anyone know? What happened to Allfather Lloyd, the undead hunter? How do you know people are undead without killing them or seeing them hollow anyway?

Maybe Lloyd was undead himself, pillaging humanity from other undead.

>>128067231
Well, WiiU has Bayo 2

>>128067714
It does. Talk to people. Read item descriptions, especially those of keys and important-sounding things. You've walked past the way forward before!

Use the basement key you should have found in the parish somewhere on the locked door near Solaire and the dragon bridge.

>>128069552
w-what?

>>128067714
>>128068403
proper order:

1. Undead Asylum
2. Firelink Shrine
3. The Catacombs (Upper area)
4. Tomb of the Giants
5. The Catacombs (Lower area)
6. Tomb of the Giants
(homebone to Firelink Shrine)
7. New Londo Ruins
8. Valley of Drakes
9. Darkroot Basin
10. Darkroot Garden
11. Undead Parish (Inside of the Church)
12. Undead Parish (Outside)
13. Undead Asylum (Revisit)

easy 35000 souls + 265 damage weapon

>>128069412

Yeah, and the name, too.

Blood = Crimson

>>128068624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ6RecDK_pA

>>128069875
He means cheat engine I presume

>TFW Nito's body under that cloak

https://youtu.be/g8RC8PJEt3U?t=2791

>>128070031
but then i'll get banned :(

>>128069090
I'm excited becaue those gauntlets on the PC are symmetrical, compared to the knight and Elite knight armors

>>128069554
You know they're undead from the darksign. People don't like undead because they want humanity and eventually go hollow, both things which make them generally dangerous to living humans. Also undead are icky.

>>128068021
>>128068169
>>128068403
>>128069697
>>128069936
thanks anons

>>128070169

46:05

>>128070256
You realize that asymmetrical armor is historically accurate right? The side that holds the shield has to be more protected.

>>128070364
Don't forget to kill the dogs first. You'll know what that means when you get to it.

>>128068594
don't zone out just bone out brah

>>128069936
That's a pretty crappy weapon though

>>128070558
But then you don't get the bonfire.

>>128070482
fuck the dogs m8
just roll to the god damn stairs and get on the ledge, you try to kill the dogs and they'll either stun you or jump backwards and then you get 2 hand oversmashed by a crap demon

>>128070363
But do all undead really have the darksign? I can kill say the Crestfallen Warrior and he doesn't come back to life, even after hollowing. It seems like most enemies have it, but Knight King Rendal didn't and nor did Black Iron Tarkus, despite them both being undead.

How do you become undead anyway? What IS the darksign?

>>128070640
its the best early rush weapon though for making a new build, beats the fuck out of drake sword
you can have a total ~45000 souls and gravelords sword, titanite slab & ring of fog all in < 15 minutes of start

is the best greatbow Alonne Greatbow? love this thing

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Why did Astor of Carim go to such lenghts to make the Bloodbite ring?

Did he suffer from any bloodborne diseases or something?

>>128070482
Why do soul games consistently have such terrible dogs? Fucking god damn hit-trading, i-framing, gang-banging dogs.

>>128070482
yeah thanks for the tip! I got capra demon first try!

>>128070808
Zweihander or Estoc would seem better and a lot more accessible, or just getting the Claymore.

>>128070716
It's never really explained how people become cursed, I've always wondered if you needed to die before you know, or if you could tell premortem.

As for Crestfallen not coming back, I put that more along gameplay than anything else. I would love it if in DSIII, if you killed an undead NPC, they end up repawning, but they are forever pissed that you killed them, and they're all super tough.

>>128071064
It's a running joke by Miyazaki. Apparently JP players from DeS bitched at him so much about the dogs that he makes them as annoying as possible in every souls game

>>128069697
Not him but the faggot there killed me in one hit and I could only do 30 damage even when I manage to hit past his shield
I have a bastard sword level 5

>>128071152
unupgraded zweihander does 130
unupgraded estoc does 75
unupgraded gravelords does 265

>>128037658
just run through to the second bonfire, you can fight him in there pretty easily

>>128070716
They do. NPCs and big enemies don't respawn because...gameplay, I guess?
The darksign is the manifestation of the curse of undeath.

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>>128070437
but in dark souls, the right arm never has a pauldron or spaulder
i'm assuming that's to reduce any clipping when you're swinging your weapon, but there's way more armors irl that had symmetrical pauldrons than not

>>128071064
What >>128071243 said. If you complain about an enemy or something in a Miyazaki game he will either make references to it in the next game or make the problem worse. That's Miyazaki.

>>128071210
Also wondering why the darksign cannot be removed by a purging stone or living surrogate, maybe it's too powerful as "humans are helpless against curses."

If NPCS came back that'd break the game for noobs who thought they'd fuck up the Crestfallen Warrior cause he only had chainmail, man imagine every time you respawn at firelink everyone you killed there starts mobbing you.

>>128070716
It's a gameplay/story segregation thing as to why unique NPCs don't respawn. It'd be too easy to farm them for souls and items or something.

I like to just imagine that they respawned offscreen where I couldn't see them and wandered off somewhere else and went hollow.

>>128070962
Nice, deep lore.

>>128071697
So DS3 is going to have shockwaves off of every attack? Fuck.

>>128071652
Sure, different armor styles and all. I'm just saying it's not wrong or inaccurate for armor to be more protected on one side of the body than the other.

>>128071360
I don't think its worth it, anything that requires running through just the Catacombs is guaranteed to take multiple tries much less running through the Tomb of Giants and that Gravelord Sword isn't going to get much better compared to the Zweihander, Estoc and Claymore. Guess if you're twinking or something you might want the Gravelord Sword

>>128071868
That's always been in the game. It's just that adp is a retarded stat so it makes the shockwaves much more apparent

>>128072082
My problem was that there wasn't much in the way of normal steel colored gauntlets that matched the Knight and EK sets

I just started a twink character in DS2 and it's kinda fun. Am I scum of the earth? I'm just using rapier +2, not even any rings except agape

>>128072303
I've seen worse. You're just using your skill to beat them, nothing scummy about that

>>128072205
I was referring to the god-awful hitboxes, anon, not getting hit after rolling through an attack. You're right, though.

>>128071751
Then let that be a lesson to people, if you're going to be an asshole, you need to deal with the consequences. A way to balance that out I think would be like DSII's despawn rule, where if you kill them enough times, you'll just find a weakened hollow in their place that's not much of a threat.

Though, seeing stuff like this is hilarious.
https://youtu.be/5dkOCUfkOmA?t=2m15s

>>128072446
I was trying to cover all my bases. Can't be too careful right? Rest easy though because Big M is doing core gameplay this time while Yui does other shenanigans

Is there a guide to missable items/spells/miracles in DaS1?

Do you think I'll still get bell invasions in Belfry Luna if I go to 300k SM?

>>128072751
Missable? It's called "just go into NG+, NG++, etc until you have everything".

>>128072751
Don't attack any npcs and you'll mostly be fine.

>>128072897
It's just when I start going through the game to pick up everything, I don't want to find out that an NPC died because I ignored their quest line.

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Got summoned for Alonne and we managed to get the seppuku death animation, neat! Never seen that in coop before.

>>128072167
why does it take you multiple tries? its the easiest rush in the world

>do asylum normally
>reverse hallowing, grab humanities, drop down into chest area to grab mace + homebones
>run through catacombs
>push lever to become invulnerable and dodge retard necromancer's fire, then roll back up
>run upper catacombs, blocking skeletons if they roll, otherwise just roll past them
>get to upper platform, estus yourself, drop down
>any skeletons that followed you drop to the floor anyway
>run past explody heads and into crypt
>estus yourself
>run past titanite demon and roll his swing or jump
>grab eyes of death
>roll back to entrance of crypt
>save/load game so titanite demon is no longer aggroed
>casually nestle into sarcophagus
>enter covenant
>return to crypt
>walk back outside, drop down to paladin leeroy and summon him
>drop down to inbetween ledge and let leeroy kill the two bonewheels
>walk to pinwheel and let the retard catch up
>whack pinwheel illusions while leeroy 3-4 shots him
>grab your mask of the child you lucky bastard
>enter tomb of the giants, walk between prism stones
>roll past first skeleton
>slide down 2 pillars in a row
>roll past 2 skeletons again
>slide down another pillar
>let faggot kick you into the pit
>grab both souls + lantern
>homebone

and then you can just normally run valley of drakes to the elevators, go back to asylum and kill the stray demon easily with either the gravelord sword, bandits knife or mace

fastest way to sequence break a new char

Parry is fucking broken and literally impossible vs other players. What the absolute shit.