/evn/ - Shilling Crappy Diversity Edition

> not knowing how to link a thread

one job, anon.

>>127180646
I'm ashamed and my family is ashamed of me as well

>>127180925

Here's your wooden katana, time for sudoku please.

>>127180440
I wonder what they plan to charge for that game.

>>127181334
$6.66

>>127181334
It's $6.66 on their site

>>127181397
>>127181427
I could pick up Long Live the Queen for that right now during the Steam sale.

>>127181397

Is the price intentional or just a funny coincidence?

>>127181829
The word Devil is literally in the title. What do you think?

>>127180440
>>>/insert board here, in this case vg/insert thread number here, in this case 127180440

>>127181946
You don't need the board name when linking between threads on the same board, even ones in the archive.

>>127179494
>all i want is a qt yuri game that's 100% cis lesbians and 0 tumblr

well... I can give you 100% cis, but...

>>127179926
>lol, i wish i could be that honest in this politically correct ass world.
>steam reviews

Okay.

But I do agree with you less tumblr in games would be great. Brilliant shadows was particularly bad because it's all the characters would talk about. One guy had a very cool background story but then it became all about how he was gay and that was his character for the rest of the game.

>>127183250
Are you implying being gay isn't cool? That's fucked up, family.

>>127183490
If you have some backstory about how you fell from a sky city of these elite 'witches' who use a special class of magic the surface world could only dream of and yet you're still known as 'the gay guy', thats fuced nee-san

>>127183783
Well maybe he doesn't hold on to the past and wants to embrace his full identity as a gay man and nothing else. You ever think about that, you heterosexist fuck?

I was hoping for an I Have a Script, It's in my Head Edition

Do you think as a novelist or Visual Novelist that naming real world guns in my game would be a bad idea?

>>127184819
>Visual Novelist
please don't ever call yourself that ever again

I don't see why it would.

>>127184819
There's some weird shit with copyright and trademarks and defamation. It depends on what you're planning on doing with the guns.

>>127184819
Just use "WacDonalds" and the like and you should be okay.

>>127185101

I don't really know yet.

>>127185082

Big game companies change the names of guns that have been in existence for years and practically should be public domain (having been shot by thousands upon thousands of people) but I assume games wouldn't change the names if there wasn't some sort of way to sue.

>>127185283
Google "can I use trademarked gun names" and read up on the results.

>>127179494
I can give you everything apart from qt.

>>127185626
Who would want to read about ugly lesbians? Are they at least ugly in a kind of cute way or are they hairy tumblr dykes?

>>127185756
Maybe she can't afford a decent artist.

>>127185756
>>127185839
Oh, you meant qt in appearance? Yeah that I can give you, it just isn't qt lesbians doing qt things.

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>>127185756
Maybe they're super muscular or tomboys with deliciously flat chests.

>>127184392
Still laughing over that.

>>127186108
Who the fuck eats ribs on the beach? Where's her white ice pop that just so happened to drip on her chest and smear all over mouth? Fucking ridiculous.

Any interesting vn kickstarters or kickstarter updates lately?

>>127186291
>he's never been to a beach bbq
What's it like never having lived?

>>127186108
well they're that too.

>>127186291
People who like to eat will bring all kinds of food with them. I'm surprised she doesn't have a second tube tied to her with a cooler of food in it.

Also, I think a surprised she wasn't wearing wetsuit T-shirt to go with her shorts.

>>127186418
Most people I know are too lazy to grill more than burgers and dogs on the beach

why does copy-pasting not work in renpy?

Monstrous lovers anon is kill

>>127186898
Eating a hotdog erotically is a nobrainer.

I always get said things to by my brother, because he thinks I eat icecream cones too suggestively with the way I lick it and suck on it until it's down to the cone.

>>127187235
They got food poisoning, right? It's what they deserve for eating a feast celebrating our true lord and savior while making a product that ignores his teachings. Divine justice has been wrought.

>>127187235

I'm still sick, anon. Sorry.

>>127184392
make that the next thread please

>>127186970
How do you mean?

Are you having trouble keeping your indentations straight?

A More Beautiful World's kickstarter succeeded. Just pray they don't deal with negative Steam reviews the same way that they (or their friends) dealt with that negative cliquist article.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/afterthoughtstudios/a-more-beautiful-world-a-visual-novel/description

>>127188096
If they do, at least it will be entertaining to see.

>>127187517
Stomach pump?

>>127187734
When I copy text from word then paste it in script.rpy, it only pastes like one letter. I've tried several times.

>>127189162
Pasting things into an rpy file has nothing to do with renpy itself, since it's not renpy you're using to edit the script with.

What program are you using as a script editor? I know there are some recommended ones but I stick with a text editor that I'm more familiar with, myself.

>>127189484
What? Sorry I'm so new, I have no idea what you mean. I'm writing the vn's dialogue in Word and coding/editing the code in the rpy file. Only it won't let me paste the dialogue in, so I have to rewrite every line.

>>127189796
What program are you using to open the rpy file with?

>>127188856
[Spoiler] Salmonella.

>>127188096

>204 backers
>$8200

Bit sketch.

>the same way that they (or their friends) dealt with that negative cliquist article.
I would honestly be mortified if anyone reacted that way about crit to my game, friend or not.

>>127190151
Ren'py Launcher???? It also says Editra
Should I use something else?

>>127190284
>Bit sketch.
Notice that all of the higher tiers have 1 backer each.

>>127190615
>>127190284
Why put your game on kickstarter if you're just going to fund the game yourself?

>>127191076
Advertising.

>>127190489
What do you mean, it won't let you paste?

Are you doing it through right click or keyboard commands?

>>127192318
I tried both, and neither works. It works if I paste from the internet instead, weird.

>>127190489
You might get different results if you opened the file using something else. I don't use Editra myself so I don't know if it has weird quirks with pasting. I see a lot of search results suggesting that Editra is weird about paste sometimes. (google for editra paste)

For editra yeah it is weird. You need to go into the find/replace and check your quotation marks, the '....' and -. It only wants to recognize a certain type and its annoying

>>127193219
Thank you. Yeah, I got those results as well. I'll try using something else.

>>127193882
Thanks. I see the find/replace but I don't understand what to do, so I think I'm going to try another program or paste into web then paste into Editra.

>>127190197
I find it funny you live in mexico

>>127197595
BUILD WALL

>>127197917
Gotta keep out that BL competition!

where were you when salty tears changed its name again

>>127188096
Literally anything will make it through kickstarter these days. Granted it's only 8k, but still... nothing appealing about that game whatsoever.

>>127204270
That's not true, we've had much nicer-looking projects fail kickstarter recently.

THIS PAIN IS JUST TOO REAL

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>>127206671

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1159578400/heart-of-an-angel-broken-wings/description

>>127210039
Literally anything will make it through kickstarter these days.

>>127210929
What about yours?

>>127212227
It needs to exist first :^)

My VN will have a single sex scene, and it will be implemented Hollywood blockbuster style, with no outright lewd places showing.

>>127216336
why
you don't have the same restrictions holywood sciptwriter has and yet you still want to cut off your balls figuratively speaking

>>127216848
Because the story isn't about sex or love, but has one romantic plotline, so why not include a token sex scene into it without getting an adult rating,

>>127217023
>without getting an adult rating,
You'll get an adult rating regardless for having a sex scene, and then people will get upset that there is so little sex for the classification.

>>127217783
>You'll get an adult rating regardless
What? It's retarded if true.

>>127217993
Adult themes, adult rating.

>>127218041
>ADULTS ONLY
>Content suitable only for adults ages 18 and up. May include prolonged scenes of intense violence, graphic sexual content and/or gambling with real currency.
>graphic sexual content
Just sex is M.

>>127206085
Isn't that because they have goals that are ridiculously high for a niche project?

Are there any homo english VNs which don't involve violence or rape?

>>127220747

Coming out on top is pretty tame.

>>127220747
Not if they keep getting inspired by N+C.

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Don't know if /evn/ is still interested at this point, but the re-release of The Dandelion Girl is almost done, basically the entire game's bulk is written and coded, including small extra scenes. While it isn't perfect (limited assets) it's definitely a step or two above the original. All that needs to be done is some technical stuff, which I was going to have a particular person for me, but they got preoccupied with their own projects/school/etc. I took a hiatus for a while for work-related stuff, myself. It's weird when you start doing something on the side (writing) and the career you start (food service/hospitality) ends up being completely different and eating up (ha) a lot of that time.

Stuff that's done:

>Bulk of script
>Music
>Basic coding
>Basic menus
>Sprites, CG, BGs

Stuff that needs to be done

>Code clean-up
>Fine-tuning code, transitions and menus, etc.
>Menu coding
>Memorandum (extras) menu
>Creating an installer

Stuff that needs to be done that I plan on doing solo

>Website relaunch

All original artwork for the game is intact, albeit some parts have been shifted around. Would've liked to work with the original artist to remake some stuff, as what artwork I've seen from him is exponentially greater than what we had at the time but he wasn't interested and I didn't want to show disrespect by replacing it. The script is reworked and reads much, MUCH more smoothly. The whole project started from a desire to do the other assets justice, as I half-assed the script the first time I wrote it.

Obviously the re-release won't cost any money. And on a side-note, though I like the nostalgia of ONScripter, fuck me for starting off with it.

If you have skills that could help with the technical aspects of the re-release, that would be great. Reply to this post, if I don't hear anything I'll assume there's no interest and I'll try to look elsewhere.

Final Note: Even though the graphics haven't aged the greatest, Julie is still QT as fuck.

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>>127227001

Also: The game is a good bit longer. Like, maybe 20% longer? And it's less fluff, more backstory. Some references to the original story were thrown out, others altered or replaced. The artwork has been at most, rearranged, out of respect. Nothing replaced.

Still can't believe it's been six years since the original came out. No regrets, except on taking so long.

>>127188096
The art is all over the place - why aren't the sprites in the same style as the image at the top of the KS or the last sprite before the cost breakup? Has anyone tried the demo?

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>>127227001
>>127228082
>640x480 res, still

>>127229186
according to the dev, they are revamping the art.

>>127229405
>even crapawa shitjo has reached 1080p by now

>>127229571
This is one of the things I don't like about vn kickstarters. They advertise with art that's not intended for the final version, or they advertise with art and then the artist runs off and you get a completely different artstyle than you were expecting.

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>>127229576
>This scene will never be remastered or remade in 1080p

It hurts, /evn/.

>>127230387
Welcome to the world of investment.

>>127230387
see >>127231278
There's a reason why publishers, TV channels, music labels and other creative businesses are very selective with the ventures they fund. Shit happens.

>>127231278
>>127232181
Has there ever been a evn you backed that:
A) Didn't come out for whatever reason?
B) Was delayed for months on end?
C) You were disappointed with the result, or it didn't deliver on everything it promised?

>>127232589
Yes for all.

>>127232836

> not giving examples

anon

>>127232589
Dischan

>>127233446
NAME AND SHAME

>>127232589
didn't back it but arkh project ticks all these boxes

>>127235386

that was such an obvious scam anyone who backed it deserved what they got.

>>127235386
Arkh Project wasn't a VN.

>>127233535
This desu.

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Threadly reminder to NAME AND SHAME (con)artists.

>>127235386
Oh yeah, I've read about that one.
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/The_Arkh_Project

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1st set of rough sprites get! I know I should wait till they back to me with the logoless versions but I'm just too excited to wait. This is the MC.

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>>127238692
Little sister.

>>127237515
How many links to Kittens does it contain?

>>127238692
please let her be brown or really tanned with white or bright hair

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>>127238848
Princess.

>>127238895

I was thinking the same thing. She'd look great in that color scheme.

>>127239015
From this day on we're siblings bound by taste, you and I.

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>>127238996
And finally the traveler.

>>127238692
>>127238848
>>127238996
>>127239171
Did you finally find a depraved artist?

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>>127238895
>>127239015
I don't know if this fulfills your expectations.

>>127239326
clear hair would probably look better, but that's not bad

>>127239215
I found three. I couldn't make up my mind between them so I commissioned a set of rough sprite sketches from each of them, and when they're all done I'll compare them and make my final decision. I need something to go on before I drop $1k+ on any of them.

>>127239462
Watch 0-1 of them actually finish the sketches.

>>127239601
I know /evn/ loves its all artists are unreliable assholes who run off with your money meme, but come on.

>>127239462
Oh, you were the one asking for opinions the other day?

>>127239787
Yeah, that was me.

2016 pity bump.

>>127239671

First, you should put that in quotes for clarity.

Second, Artists have always been known for being flighty/unreliable/flaky. This is not some recent invention or unique to the vn community. It just comes up a lot here because visual novels are created as projects and art asset production is required-- this puts the reliability of artists front and center.

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Hello friends, thanks for the critique from last time.
Here are two new designs, please tell me how i can improve them (the other one is the pic of the ponytale guy above).

>>127246660
>>127245884
>>127243378
What the fuck

>>127248323
Mistakes have been made.

>>127235494
Remember when people who backed the AKISEKAI kickstarter tried to discredit people who tried to warn them it was a scam?

Either they really wanted what the game offered that badly, or they became that invested in it once they backed it.

>>127238848
Little sister needs to be littler

>>127243698
>>127246660
I think the quality overall is fine, but if these are protags, they don't really give off an air of likeability. I want to punch Jake in the face, and Sofia looks like she's a high robot.
Try and make their expressions/faces a little more appealing.

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>>127257138
I know, if I decide to hire that artist there are some nitpicks in the sprites I'd have to go over. I want little sis to be the height of the one in the middle.

>>127210039
>$20,000
I like how there's no costs chart. At least not on the main page.

>>127224917
>has a BL that was originally heavily N+C inspired
>BL has since turned very fluffy, not horrifying like original set up
... So I probably shouldn't mention it was ever inspired by N+C, right?

>>127227001
>website relaunch
That's the only thing I could offer help with, if you needed help with that.

>>127260782
I wouldn't. Otherwise players will expect your characters to start eating each other at any moment.

>>127260782
Yeah, probably shouldn't mention it, at least not in promotional phase. In private discussion with fans after launch talking about the creation of the whole thing then of course it's fine

Would anyone want it if complete visual development was ever offered (gui, sprites, bgs, logos)? The downside is it takes longer than having separate artists, upside is it would all match.

>>127266872
if the team was high quality and competent I'd jump on it in a heartbeat.

>>127266872
I think lots of people would, if the artists were decent and could be trusted to actually finish the fucking work.

Why are there so few artists in here? Why does everyone seem to be just a writer?
You'd think with all the trouble a lot of you have with artists, you'd want to try and tackle that problem yourselves instead of blowing tons of money and time just for a good chance to be left high, dry, and frustrated.

>>127266872
I can't imagine why you would think anyone wouldn't unless your skills aren't up to par.

>>127267901
>Why are there so few artists in here?
Because it takes years to get even remotely decent.

>Why does everyone seem to be just a writer?
Because the only prerequisite is being able to communicate via text. And before anyone tries to argue it takes hard work/talent/dedication, I'll remind you all we're still talking about EVNs. Ideally those things would be necessary, but they're not the standard.

>>127267901
>you'd want to try and tackle that problem yourselves
many of us have tried but despite decades of trying we are still completely shit

>>127267901
What makes you think I'm not an artist? I'm just a shitty one.

>>127269026
>Because the only prerequisite is being able to communicate via text.
The connection to this is, people who are writers and like communicating via text are more likely to be hanging out on internet forums communicating via text.

I'm continuing on my game despite massive burnout. Why did I save all the boring stuff for last?

>>127269968
Because you are ugly

>>127270853
Rude

>>127270853
I'll fit right in with the rest of you then hyuk hyuk

>>127267901
I've seen people posting art and I've given feedback, I think you just missed some posts.

So my visual novels bursting out the seems prediction for 2016 is coming true:

January 5th:
Strawberry Vinegar
A wild catgirl appears

January 19:
No one but you

January 20:
Sickness

January ??:
Whatever misc sakura and ajtilley title

>>127272286
AWCA came out for the yuri jam. That's just a steam release.

Are white girls as visual protagonists old hat now?

>>127272828
We must diversify. Make your protagonist a strong black woman who may or may not need a man (she's pansexual, you see).

>>127272828
browns girls are cool now

I predict trannies will be the latest trend as protags complete with angry discussions about futa being "respectful to trans depictions" or not.

>>127273098
>browns girls are cool now
Great i can finally make that brown loli dating sim!

>>127273098
>angry discussions about futa being "respectful to trans depictions" or not.
The easiest way out of this is to say drawing a woman with a penis is the same kind of fantasy as drawing a guy with 2 penises.

>>127274028
>brown loli
I waited a decade to get my hands on Kaya.

>>127272286
I'm going to wait for reviews of No One But You, since I still don't have a good feel for where that game's plot is going.

Sickness has an interesting premise, but the art is pretty inconsistent.

>>127274661
>The easiest way out of this is to say drawing a woman with a penis is the same kind of fantasy as drawing a guy with 2 penises.

whhhhhhhhhaaaat. Nigga that argument doesn't make any sense...

you're gonna have to do a lot better than that if you want to get the SJWs off your back.

personally, i'd go with the Taosym route:
Be really vague about implying trans = futa and you have transwomen working in your team who enjoy futa and feel like they are being represented in your visual novel "Futa High School: The Big Black Cock"

>>127276464
>Be really vague about implying trans = futa
Didn't he outright say that futa are trans?

>you have transwomen working in your team who enjoy futa and feel like they are being represented in your visual novel "Futa High School: The Big Black Cock"
I still don't see this going over very well, because there are always those who think they are speaking for the entire community when they find something offensive.

>Nigga that argument doesn't make any sense...
The more penises, the hotter it is. Just add 1+ penis. Would a woman with 8 boobs be more your thing?

>>127277515
I think you are mistaken about how the whole more is better thing works.

>>127277825
So it should be one massive cock and 2 gigantic boobs then? Sounds like a scene out of Armored Warrior Iris, which by the way did have a guy with 2 penises.

>>127277515
>Didn't he outright say that futa are trans?
actually you're right.

But you try saying that to defend your fetish.

>>127277825
Hang out on /d/, some people are into that

>>127278017
>one massive cock and 2 gigantic boobs then?
Some people are into that too

A visual novel where you are slowly transformed against your will into something else.

A visual novel that explores (mental and physical) submission to another being from the point of view of the submissive.

>>127278617
>from the point of view of the submissive
Pass.

>>127278617
>A visual novel where you are slowly transformed against your will into something else.
Can I play as a tentacle monster, senpai?

It is frustrating when an attempt at representing genuine diversity gets brushed off as offensive because it wasn't quite exactly the right flavor of diversity for whoever complained.

Sometimes a boy in a dress is a boy in a dress and not a trans woman, and that is okay. Boys can wear dresses too.

Drag is a thing some people do for fun and self-expression.

Futas are not trans women. They are not men either. They are girls with dicks. If anything, they would be intersex, but mostly they are fantasies that many people of different genders and orientations have.

However, this sort of complaint is really less common than some of the ooga-booga bandits make it out to be. Yes, there are some people who will complain, there are always some people who will complain, but they're a minority and probably better ignored.

>>127278617
>A visual novel where you are slowly transformed against your will into something else.
Why slowly, though? Get on with it.

Maybe I just don't have the right fetish for slow creeping horrror of approaching death. I'd rather deal with "I woke up and I was a bimbo / a centaur / a sentient pair of underwear" and go from there.

>>127278971
>Drag is a thing some people do for fun and self-expression.
Didn't you hear about the time trans people tried to ban drag queens from a queer pride parade because their presence offended them, and how they had already won until a stink was raised on the internet and people remembered drag queens were at the vanguard of the gay acceptance movement?

I wish the issues were less common, I really do. Ignoring them doesn't make them go away, it just reinforces the walls of their echo chambers.

>>127279092
>Help, I'm Trapped in a Strip Club Owners Body!

>ANOTHER futa discussion

I thought you people were over this

/d/ pls go.

>>127279465
Well, giving in to their demands isn't ignoring them, obviously.

It's just silly. Many people do sex/gender differently. As long as they're not hurting each other, why not let them?

Hell, if you want to call yourself a trans-asian dragon otherkin, as long as you're not hurting anyone, I DON'T CARE. have fun.

>>127279961
Yeah, all this talk about dickgirls is stealing the spotlight away from cuntboys. Where's their representation?

>>127280204
Clearly the actual equivalent of futa in terms of fantasy is the yaoi bottoms with self-lubricating ass pussies.

>>127278971
>there are some people who will complain, there are always some people who will complain, but they're a minority and probably better ignored.
These kinds of discussions always cause major arguments on Steam forums. Your best bet is explaining you're locking the thread due to arguments and leave it visible.

>>127280354
>self-lubricating ass pussies.
thats diarrhea, yaoi gays are just using their shit as lube.

>>127282073
Half of them are vampires, so they have to lube with blood.

>>127282147
silly anon, everyone knows vampires don't have sex! Feeding feels better.

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What's your most anticipated evn release of 2016 that's been announced?

I'm looking forward to: Starlight Vega, Rising Angels: Fates, and the completion of The Reject Demon: Toko.

>>127279092

The fun's in the transformation bit by bit, at least for the transformation community, especially the mental changes.

>>127284083
>the completion of The Reject Demon: Toko.
I think he's turning it into a comic? Though every time I look for news about the sequel someone tells me otherwise

>>127282427

Guy's smirking like he knows he's already got another plan.

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>>127278112
>>127277515

Saying trans identify with futa =/= futa are trans.

>>127284083
>he completion of The Reject Demon: Toko.
has that actually been announced?

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>>127284354
I think it's still going to be a series of 3 other vns, but he might do side stories as comics or short stories, like the Toko Christmas Carol.

I want eyepatch chuuni to show up. Pic related.

>>127284680
Once their space mecha vn comes out and the Dizzy Hearts KS finally gets fulfilled, their next project, unless another one just pops up out of thin air, is to finish Toko this year. So, we'll see how well that plan pans out.

>>127285509
Gotta say, my level of belief in their ability to finish things and provide a satisfying story is not high.

>>127286387
I dislike episodic games where the parts aren't standalone, so I'm waiting for Toko to be finished before playing it.

I played the game jam version though, so if it keeps the story and characters at least at that level I'll be satisfied.

>>127284083
Starlight Vega, Highway Blossoms, any other yuri

>>127287439
>Highway Blossoms
Won't this be HRP dev's first release?

The character art looks fine, but the BGs aren't very good.

No Steam key if I buy the adult version is annoying, because it's the same game, but with fade to black in the Steam version.

>>127287857
Yeah, it's their first.

The background thing is weird, because they're working with Badriel. It seems like some of his stuff is really good, and some is shit. Maybe he just doesn't try that hard all the time.

I'd guess that there will be a way to patch the Steam version. That's what Sunrider Academy did.

>>127288160
They're releasing the 18+ version on denpasoft and said you won't get a Steam key for it. So it looks like no patch this time. In fact, it looks like 18+ patches are becoming less common.

>>127288414
No official patch doesn't mean someone won't patch it, because fuck actually paying for the extra content you want people to make.

>>127289140
It's not extra content. The dev said that the 18+ content was already there, but is being cut out of the Steam release.

>>127289319
>it's not extra content, it's just extra content

>>127289389
It's not extra content, they're just trying to jew people into paying for the same game twice.

>>127287439

Starlight Vega is appealing.

Strawberry Vinegar is cute but I am balking at the idea of paying $10 for it when there's only one possible distant-epilogue romance option.

A Little Lily Princess is cute and hasn't said what it's going to cost.

The Wild Catgirl game isn't very cute but at least it's cheap.

Highway Blossoms I'm going to be waiting for reviews on, both the ideas and being by the HRP people make me worry it's a snoozefest.

Toko episode 0 was a letdown and I'm not sure they're ever going to finish it.

Sakura Fantasy I don't think they have any idea what they're doing.

>>127289517
Yes. One time... with extra content.

You could buy the cake, or you could buy the cake WITH a scoop of ice cream.

>>127289715
But then I don't get Steam cards and people won't know I'm playing lesbian treasure hunt.

>>127289715
No, it was cake with icecream and they scraped it off, and now they're holding it hostage.

>>127289918
This is legitimately my struggle. Do I want to play the version with lesbian sex, or do I want everyone on my Steam account to know I'm playing another gay visual novel? Even with the Sakura games, I don't have to pick whether or not I want trash and smut or just trash, and I don't like that I have to pick between fluffy lesbians and fluffy lesbians with sex here ;-;

>>127289715
This would be a better comparison if the deluxe option also included the Steam key. As it is you really do have to pay twice for the same cake, if you want both tits and cards.

I don't know why they're not giving out the Steam key, unless they're just trying to slow down people making the patch by trying to limit the numbers of folks who have both a steam copy and the sexy copy.

>>127290062
Here is cake with icecream. It costs $2.50
Or I could remove the icecream and sell you just the cake for $2.

>>127289558

>Strawberry Vinegar is cute but I am balking at the idea of paying $10 for it

I know it had several endings but that is surprising to hear it's going to be $10. Asphyxia went humble bundle pretty quickly last time so I imagine you'll get a chance for a cheaper price.

>Sakura Fantasy I don't think they have any idea what they're doing.

Long as they dont put random het in it ill be fine

>>127290296
The game is going to cost $9.99 and both versions will cost the same price. I don't want to spend an extra $10 for toppings.

>>127290874
If they both cost the same then this is a complete nonissue.

>>127290304
I'd be shocked if Sakura Fantasy is ever completed. Sakura Spirit ended on a sequel hook and they still haven't done a sequel to that.

>>127290992
Except the 18+ version doesn't have Steam cards and people can't see what you're playing. You'd have to pay $20 to get it all.

>>127291171
>steam cards
Who cares.
>people can't see what you're playing
Who cares.

You're like those people who don't buy games that don't have achievements.

There will be a free patch to apply the 18+ content to the steam version of Highway Blossoms. It'll be the same as what Sunrider does.

>>127291303
>Who cares?
Steam users who won't buy this game out of "principles".

>>127291034
That's kind of what I meant about no idea what they're doing. Last I heard they had no clue how to write a chapter 2 for sakura fantasy, I don't know if they're ever going to bother.

>>127291330
Glad to hear it. Any release date yet?

>>127291330
Yes! Thank you!

>>127291632
The statement "it's important" was used repeatedly in that game to explain why the characters had to do things, so you're probably right about them having no idea where they were going with tit.

>>127291634
Nothing specific. We're still aiming for Q1 of this year. But it'll probably be on the later end of that.

>>127291632
The writer answers questions on /v/ sometimes. Or at least, someone deeply invested in roleplaying as someone working for the esteemed Winged Cloud.

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I guess that's what happens when the plot occurs over less than a week.

>>127289558
Are you going to try out RA: Fates? The free version only has Zuri's route for Natalie and Yoi's for Name, so you could try it out and decide if Kika, Alexi, and Faye are worth spending money on.

>>127292708
why delete? that was hilarious

Does anyone else have a tendency to dislike an artstyle when they first see it, but have it gradually grow on them until they like it?
>Wow, this sucks.
>It's not so bad.
>I think I'm starting to like it.

>>127294536
Fairly standard really, many people were like that about anime in general

>>127294379
It should still be in the archive.
I thought it might get reports and I don't want to get a temp ban.

>>127294748
Are you joking?

>>127294157
What is that?

>>127294536
Had it happen with the sakura games.

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>>127294536
Happened with Win the Game for me.
I mean it's not good art but it still grew on me.

Do people like MC's that they can identify with? Or do they not care?

>>127294748
You're on 4cock, mate.

>>127296326
What level of 'identify with'? If the MC is a massive cock that I can't stand, I won't want to play, but I don't need the MC to be 'me'.

>>127297489
Let's say the MC is popular and not a fucking loser, would people play it? Would he be relatable enough to get people to enjoy the game?

>>127297610
>Would he be relatable enough to get people to enjoy the game?
I dunno it depends on whether you can write.

(Hypothetically I am okay with playing a popular guy. Hopefully popular includes him having actual male friends and not just hordes of girls in love with him for no obvious reason.)

>>127295103
Three Guys That Paint, the subject of that bad lp a week ago. I read it and a couple other vns, this one pretty much handled things in that bait-in-switch way many do. That is, you start off with simple slice-of-life stuff with Alicia(mc's daughter) who's interested in paleontology and being an astronaut and his two friends Arthur and Terri, with the three of them running a painting business together. Meet weird girl who wants to move in the room he's renting and hangs out with Nigel's friends. Then it turns out dinosaur aliens are kidnapping people through port-a-potties and Morwenna(new tenant and an alien) is on a sidequest(her main quest is to find the Meaning of Life within a Black Cube) to stop them. There's an attack at the house, a dino's captured, and depending on your choices(which of the two friends you hang out with the most, or with your daughter) the romance aspect comes into play when a port-a-potty you just notice in the back of your truck heads to the spaceship. One of Nigel's two friends and Alicia(or just you) is kidnapped, and through his love for [insert LI here], they set off alarms and get the orange dinosaurs arrested. A few interesting ideas, but no real fleshing out of any of them save the parent/child relationship between Nigel and Alicia, that's not completely there since their behavior(namely that they're always on a first name basis with each other) indicates that's she not his biological child. This is in fact pointed outright be Morwenna, but that's dropped.
Morweena's more or less "canon" since the others have little involvement when you don't force it, Arthur especially. 6 out of 10, it was an alright read. The art style hurts its quality rating to me, since it's not particularly fitting(Plus I don't like it personally. I would overlook that if the writing was patched up better.).

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>>127298323

Alex, I'd like to buy a whole fucking paragraph.

>>127294748
No one cares, dude.

>>127296326
>>127297610
I swear, you people ask the most bizarre questions sometimes.

>>127299017
If the MC is autistic and has a missing hand and his dad is a soldier who's missing in action can you still relate to him?

>>127300090
Does he like cute anime girls?

>>127300193
w-what if he likes older men?

>>127300353
I guess that's okay too.

>>127297610
I'm pretty popular for no reason and not too much of a loser. I read VNs with regular protags.
Maybe it's not a popular thing to do, but at least some people perceive the story as the main character's monologue they're listening to, not a story with an empty slot they can insert themselves into.

>>127180440
That lack of use of commas. Oh my fucking god.

>>127301951
i am confused by people being shocked at the existence of speech patterns

>>127301951
you clearly are not hip with it. The writers of tumblr are beyond you, you sad sad dinosaur. I can't even


You should read more articles written by the ingroup of the gaming criticism circle of twitter and tumblr like what's her name... you know... Mammonmachine something? The one with the Long Articles on Medium and Tweeting about Gamergate Shit and the Kind of Trans Feels

>>127303162
>Mammonmachine
I did go to check her twitter out of curiosity.

It is the second of January; I already want to die.

Any news on Backstage Pass? I won't buy it on Steam until they release the full version. Which probably means that I will never buy it

>>127309868
It appears to be out, in full, on Steam.

http://www.sakevisual.com/backstagepass/

Check under announcements.

>>127310471
Wow, last time I checked was 1 or 2 months ago and their last announcement was from 2014, so I was about to lost hope. Thanks for that.

>>127310997
Happy to help! I hope the game's good!

>>127188096
What article?

>>127311236
http://cliqist.com/2015/12/03/a-more-beautiful-world-shows-how-not-to-run-a-kickstarter/

The comments are amazing and embarrassing.

>>127312742
Gee Gang, why the long faces?

>>127312742
She looks like she wants to eat it

>>127313087
Hey man, hunger plays funny tricks if you're trying to lose weight.

>>127312742
That cat is literally just floating in front of her arms, what the fuck

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>>127243698
',:^)
nice

>>127243698
head too big

so do you have to adopt a trip round here to get people to care about your VN?

>>127315762
you have to make an interesting and nice looking vn.

>>127315762
You have to post clickbaiting opinions on SJW topics.

>>127316076
Yuri and BL are problematic because they turn gay people into a fetish for straight people. Check your privilege, shitlords.

>>127316514
Fuck you.
Post link to your steam page so I can buy your game.

>>127316514
> there are people who actually think this

WAKE UP

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>>127311389
why am I tearing out my hair agonizing over details when this kind of low-effort garbage gets $$$s? I'll just miss the gravy train and die in obscurity with my perfect never finished work.

>>127321254
> comparing the game to fallout

this is golden.

>>127280078
Sexual misconduct is hurtful for everyone involved and therefore immoral.

>>127316514
What about the gay people who like yuri and BL? You'd take away their representation and entertainment just to deny straight people access to it?

>>127327049
Straight white males are literally scum and aren't allowed anything, shitlord.

All this tumblr bait. At least put some effort into it.

>>127329239
Can you call it bait when it's clearly tongue-in-cheek humor?

>>127329731
Analogue: A Hate Story taught me a very important lesson. If a society disagrees with my way of thinking, the "progressive" thing to do is wipe them all out.

I've read a Beach Bounce review and now want to see a VN where you date monster girls but there are no good ends and you are dead every time because nothing good can come out of trying to fuck a dangerous mythical creature.

>>127332751
If the dangerous mythical creature is a succubus there's always a good ending, unless it's a dark nukige where they drain the guys life force and he dies.

>>127333112
>unless it's a dark nukige
Or a Witcher story.

>>127332751
When is the rest of Beach Bounce coming out?

>>127330285
Do tell more.

Has anyone else noticed the weird thing about the web address of this thread?
>bbg-bloodborne-general

>>127329239
I've seen people saying similar things with a straight face.

>>127341394
One of the two heroines in that game is basically Genocide Jill. She's a young woman from a futuristic, Western society who woke up in a more "primitive" Asian society she saw as backwards, because it disagreed with her progressive sensibilities. She hated it to the point that she decided she'd rather kill the entire society, herself included, than to live in a society that conflicted with what she thought the world should be. I honestly never understood why that game was so popular.

>>127341976

dude, she was sick and her attempts to explain that they were basically killing her were met with "haha silly woman".

>>127342067
And that gives her the right to kill everyone?

>>127342236

No, but it makes her much more sympathetic than someone who killed everyone because they weren't as progressive.

>>127342067
She was dead either way. There was no cure for her illness and the technology in the society was breaking down because no one really knew how to fix it. She would've had a better at it just taking a "When in Rome" stance. Heck, one of the nobles wife's was having an affair with her female servant, so it's not like woman couldn't do anything they wanted.

>>127342374
She hated them because of how they treated her. She even imagined a rivalry another female in the society, but that woman was never even aware that this imagined rivalry ever existed.

Name an evn that was popular, but you didn't think it was that great. Hard mode: explain why.

>>127343463
Katawa Shoujo and Juniper's Knot, for the same reasons. Long rambling with seemingly nothing happening. Effort to be deep too obvious. To be fair, I only played about 15 minutes before dropping both. I really wanted to like them and feel like an outcast for not loving them.

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>>127238692
Got the clean set back today. I'm only waiting on the second other artist now since the third hasn't gotten back to me. But as it stands, theres an 80% chance I'm going to go with this artist.

>>127344362
Agreed on JK but I don't think KS was really 2deep. It had its problems, sure, but if anything I'd say those mostly came from being too trite than anything.

>>127344362
I played Juniper's Knot and disliked how almost nothing about the fiend's past was really explained. She killed a village of people but that wasn't why she was imprisoned? Okay, then why was she imprisoned?

IIRC they were planning a sequel, but I don't know if they planned to fill in any more of the fiend's past with it. It's a moot point now that the studio is dead.

>>127343463
Don't take it personally.

You're told off for looking into the kids' conversations, except there's no way for you not to read them and you're continuously prodded to go and read. I spent a fair bit of time trying not to, because I found them boring as fuck, so the whole ending fell flat for me.

I also found it ridiculous how it seemed to only give positive traits to the gay characters, while the straight ones are the teacher who is continuously peeking at his students' conversations on Facebook and almost fucking one of his students and a turbo bitch who's a cliche mean girl soft of type. If someone did the opposite they'd be lynched on Twitter and Tumblr.

The CG's were shit, too.

you deserve to die, but the captcha had pies in it

>>127321254
>when this kind of low-effort garbage gets $$$s?
it got the dev's own $$$'s.

>>127345987
Same. I also couldn't believe that the teacher had any real internal struggle when the writing was like, "I have a boner." I was laughing too hard. He seemed to have the thought process of a child rather than an adult.

>>127345987
HotForTeacher's straight too and not depicted as a bad person.
Although I was somewhat annoyed by that storyline as the writer seems to think you are a horrible, horrible person for considering a relationship with her despite her being *very clearly* aware of her actions and trying to manipulate you into a relationship.

If you want to make a point about teacher/student romance being predatory, it helps if the teacher actually is taking advantage. You can even show it being a grey area and show WHY a teacher should say no even when a student throws herself at him... but this didn't do that, instead we got the girl lecturing us on how adult she was and how she deserved to be treated like one.

>>127351912
I'm overly sympathetic to teacher/student romance because of some badly-handled cases in the UK where the male teacher was branded an evil predator despite the details revealing much more of an error of judgment than a scheming monster plotting to molest your children.

(At least two cases where friendship turned into romance, they tried to keep it hidden, people started suspecting, parents try to break them up, angsty teenage girl threatens to harm herself or run away on her own if boyfriend won't go with her because it's the only way she can get any control over her life, boyfriend gives in and goes with her, and now oops he's done for kidnapping and child molesting)

I'm not blaming the girls or saying they set out to ruin the men's lives or anything, both sides are being caught in a system that didn't give them a good way to resolve the situation.

>>127352880
I would say that the moral of the story here is teenage girls are monsters.

>>127351912
>>127352880

I'm guessing you guys didn't take the alternative choice in that route. You can actually accept the student's advances and at the end of the game, the teacher and student are dating (implying they'll have sex in the future) without any consequences. Obviously they're gonna try to hide it but that seems impossible since the student actually talked to suicideprank gal pal about wanting to suck the teacher's cock on the social network that everyone can see.

>>127354306
and that's exactly why you shouldn't fuck them. Don't stick your dick in crazy

>>127354526
No, I did, but from what she's said on twitter the author thinks everyone is creepy and horrible for taking that choice even though the game implies it's totally fine. I think she did not achieve what she intended to.

>>127341976
lol i don't understand people who try to paint digital a love story as 'evil feminist propaganda', yeah clove is feminist and it's very obvious from her social media, but digital is actually pretty mild imo? yes all the charas die, but the game never tries to say all these people deserved to die, it takes effort to show some of them were essentially decent people (even if they did do jerky things or have sexist views). i don't think the narrative of the game is nearly as black and white as you're trying to paint it.

>>127354306
Teenagers are driven insane by a world that alternately treats them as adults or as children based on what someone else finds convenient but never what THEY want.

From a fifteen-year-old girl's perspective, "I'm in love with a great guy and he loves me too, but I have no power to determine where I live or what I do or who I date and my parents are going to take all my things away and force me to live halfway across the country away from all my friends!" ... of course running away sounds appealing.

It's not like they can admit they fell for each other and seek mediation, either. He'd be in legal trouble right away. They're cut off from sane fallbacks so they go for the insane ones. Desperation makes people stupid.

>>127356590
>she's said on twitter the author thinks everyone is creepy and horrible for taking that choice even though the game implies it's totally fine. I think she did not achieve what she intended to.

that's hilarious considering she's also said that "word of god" means nothing and people's interpretation of the work will drive the meaning of it.

>>127343463
I want to say Sunrider, but this is basically because my laptop is really old and the battles lag my laptop so, so much I can't actually get past them - it took so long for anything I tried to input to register I got bored. That's not really the dev's fault, but the fault of my terrible laptop, which gets stuck even playing ren'py games.

Now, if we're talking about Sunrider Academy... That did run on my laptop, but the stat grinding was very, very tedious, and I didn't find much of the comedy that funny.

And, maybe Cinders... Cinders looks absolutely gorgeous, I loved the sprites and animated backgrounds, but I remember thinking it seemed kind of short, and though it had a lot of choices, they were pretty superfluous and didn't seem to change all that much except some flavor text. It felt like a very linear story line masquerading as something more interactive. I don't regret buying it, and I think it's super pretty, but I'm not a fan of VNs that claim they have loads of choices but don't really deliver on it.

>>127356635
I don't think the official narrative of the game is meant to be that black and white, but I definitely see a lot of people supporting the murderer and completely forgiving her for her actions in ways that are kind of creepy.

I never played the sequel, I don't know if she eventually develops any sense of remorse.

>>127357171
>didn't seem to change all that much except some flavor text. It felt like a very linear story line masquerading as something more interactive. I don't regret buying it, and I think it's super pretty, but I'm not a fan of VNs that claim they have loads of choices but don't really deliver on it.

This is one of the problems with hiding your stats for 'immersion' - if people can't see what all the choices are doing, they may think they do nothing at all.

I am not a Cinders expert but there definitely are multiple endings and plot branches that are only unlocked through the variables you're building up (how smart cinders is, how ruthless she is, how romantic she is, etc)

Kind of a pain to replay to find all the outcomes though

>>127357305
When I read it I honestly got this sense that you were meant to think what she did was bad, and you're not meant to wholeheartedly agree with her or think 'genocide is the best solution!' - I think it's meant to be more like... She was cornered and in a very horrible situation, so she did the only thing she could think of to escape it (and to 'punish' the people who were awful to her), and was then deliberately keeping it from the MC when you first meet them because she thinks 'Oh what I did was p bad if I tell them they'll hate me!' Which would explain why she's so like 'OK I'll tell you, but only if you promise not to judge me!'
I think the narrative in Analogue is honestly pretty interesting... I think it would have been nice if you got more of an insight into the other people on the ship, and they were fleshed out a bit more, so it would add a bit more to the moral complexity.

And I don't know if I buy *Mute suddenly being like 'oh no, they did that to you? How awful! Well ofc you killed them, now I understand perfectly!' to the Pale Bride in the harem ending, it seemed awfully sudden.

>>127344481
I think that's a good choice out of the two artists you've posted so far.

>>127357671
I know it changes stuff, but the overall 'plot' remains relatively the same, and there aren't any real branches or paths like there are in some other VNs - it just alters who she ends up with, her relationship with her sisters, some personality stuff, on the one linear-ish path. So the story doesn't change that much depending on what you do - your choices do get acknowledged but they didn't get acknowledged enough for my liking.

>>127344481
No. 1 looks awesome. I like her face.

>>127344481
Normally I hate the unzipped-suit-boob look but so far here it works okay because it contrasts with the others.

Still, I'm the whiny bitch who's going to sulk if there's no good reason for her to go around in an outfit she'd have to glue herself into.

>>127344481
A1 waifus my dude

>>127358085
And from specifically the tongue incident, like how the fact that they could have cared less than she was literally dying or her friend's suspicious death being disregarded as well. Or all the many issues that could have made Mute gradually change her mind on Hyun-ae, apparent in her own route.

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>>127180440
Please tell me this is in the vein of bishop games and you turn them into loving, ball sucking, rape assisting, nakadashi addicted sluts.

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>>127358271
Well my original other two backed out so the new two are:
http://lulu-chan1992.deviantart.com/ (working on character sketches) and
http://fast-runner-2024.deviantart.com/ (hasn't responded for the past few days)
>>127359256
It really reminds me of Mirei. Or is that just me?
>>127359581
Space suit, my friend.
>>127359681
Cheers. Only one of them is going to be waifu material, though.

Seinarukana confirmed for never. How many times were we close to release over the past half decade, only for cucking to occur?

>>127341976
You uh, kind of oversimplify the shit she went through to get to the point where she thought killing everyone was reasonable.

I mean really, they cut out her fucking tongue for backtalking and the the one person that had been nice to her died and like, no, murdering an entire spaceship full of people isn't cool, but it's not as though she was particularly stable at the time she did it. She snapped.

>>127364302
Why'd they back out? Did you pay for the sketches?

>>127366117
Whoops, I meant I backed out of considering them for the project. I didn't ask either of them for sketches, up until that point we had simply been discussing the possibility of them working for me and what that would require in terms of art, deadlines, quotes etc. I was upfront with them from the start that I was considering others as well. They were both very nice about it and wished me good luck on the project.
I am paying/have paid for the sketches of the artists I posted in thread.

>>127366087
You're basically saying it's okay she did it because she wasn't in her right mind and she's sorry about it now.

>>127227001
music was kind of cool, is it still the same?

>>127366087
She kept backtalking for fucking years. They warned her around twenty trillion times that she should act like a normal woman, but she just kept going SJW in a traditional society.

Everyone warned her. EVERYONE. Imagine if you went to Imperial early WWII-era Japan and started telling everyone you met on the streets that gaijins and democracy are the future and they should bow down to their new overlords. And so, you're warned time and time again, maybe with a small jail sentence, a slap on the wrist, by friends and family... and you ignore them.

Then, you're harshly punished for your activities it after years of that shit. WHOA - Didn't see that coming, better kill everyone!

When in Rome...

>>127366623
When I made my post, I hadn't made it down the page yet.
>>127358085 Puts it much better than I did. It's not okay that she did it, but there's a difference between cold blooded "Yeah let's murder a bunch of people for fun whatever" and "Holy shit everything and everyone is awful goodbye." IMO.

>>127368009
It's still kinda traumatizing to go through that, regardless of whether you were warned or not, but I suppose YMMV on whether she should've seen it coming or not.

>>127368009
Isn't this what makes digital an interesting story though? That people can argue about the narrative, and draw their own conclusions about the characters' actions and just how justified/justifiable they were/are?

>>127369869
analogue rather
i didn't care about digital that much

>>127369869
People can argue about anything, does that mean everything's interesting? I'm not calling Analogue shit to clarify.

>>127370404
Sure people can argue about anything, but I feel a work that opens up argument about the morality of mass genocide and sexism is more interesting than something that opens up argument about who the best waifu is. I like waifu games a lot too though... And you could still argue about waifus in Analogue as well, I guess.
I like *Mute the best, she's a qt.

>>127356635
They were talking about Analogue: A Hate Story.

>>127371986
i meant analogue, i just mixed the two up

>>127371392
The fact that some people argue that mass genocide was in some way justified is really disturbing. If the heroine was going to kill herself anyway, she didn't need to take everyone else with her. She was just being vengeful for how the society treated her. She killed man, woman, and child.

>>127373531
>She was just being vengeful for how the society treated her. She killed man, woman, and child.

I'm not defending her but in her mind that made sense because everyone's already indoctrinated in a centuries old culture. Genocide everyone and start clean again.

The game makes the assumption that you think half the human population being treated like cattle is wrong. So if you don't I guess I can see the game falling flat

>>127373825
With who? There was no one left.

>>127374069
>it's okay to commit genocide against people who treat women badly, also slaughtering all those poor women

>>127374069
I studied anthropology in university, you're not supposed to try to change other cultures.

>>127374313

Genocide's pretty easy to justify as long as you can do it and you write the history books.

>>127374359

I hope the job market is treating you well, senpai.

>>127374313
Freedom in death, which I don't agree with, especially when the oppressed were murdered

>>127374359

> anthropologist
> you are not supposed to try to change other cultures
> literally the driving force behind history has been people trying to change each other

anon pls.

>>127375295
Whatever happened to respecting people's differences? Trying to homogenize the human race would be a disservice.

>>127375726
McDonalds, Starbucks, and KFC EVERYWHERE

>>127376192

Hey fuckers, we need a Popeyes up in this bitch.

>>127376336
>Popeyes
Fuck that, Chick-fil-a is the real god tier fast food chicken.

>>127376336
>Popeyes
Disgusting.

>>127376665
fuck you Popeyes gots the best chicken

>>127376516
b-but anon! Chick-fil-a is homophobic!

i still eat their chicken because it's delicious and gay marriage is legal everwhere so lol

>>127374108
Exactly.

>>127373531
Clearly the solution to the problem is not to give access to weapons of mass destructions to someone just because you want to fuck them.

And don't stick your dick in crazy.

>>127374313
I guess the tumblr view would be that they didnt have a life at all but really clove is known for hamfisting things even if they are usually interesting takes

>eating at chick-fil-a
bourgeoisie bastards

Why is Freak-quency's MC such a rip off of Sonia from Dangan Ronpa?

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>>127376516

>liking waffle fries

Holy shit.

I'm playing Backstage Pass and it's really cute... It's so polished, I like it a lot! And (so far) it seems, even though there's a lot of sim stuff, there are a bunch of events sprinkled throughout so you don't get bored grinding stats. Sunrider Academy should've handled its stat-raising more like this...
Most of the voices are super cute (I like Adam and Benito a lot - and Lloyd), but John's is pretty... strange. I'm British, and he doesn't sound like any British person I've ever heard. I still feel like he's gonna be my fav guy though, since I like older men...

>>127383327
>. I'm British, and he doesn't sound like any British person I've ever heard
Because his VA isn't British.