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Beast Edition

Old >>126602445

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Character Planners, MP Range Calculator, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans(Base Game & DLC) and Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems/the Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer and Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art and Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101, Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info and DLC Guide Scans
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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Stake driver best weapon.
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micolash posters should be shot
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First for Vile-Bros calling!
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first for tentacle touch
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>>126634514
For anything other than penetrating the ass of Ebrietas?
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KOS oh wait too drunk and slow have happy new year hunters
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I missed most of the FC yesterday.
Anyone wanna fuck around in 6cb? I'm BL78/98
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How rare is an offshape gem? I'm going through all the chalices, and it just kind of sucks getting all these nice waning gems in Loran
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where were you when you realized the kirkhammer was the best weapon in the game?
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>>126634515
didn't get enough eyes for Christmas present eh?
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If anybody else has any answers for >>126634312 I would appreciate it. I've got no clue whats going on in that Hamlet.
Also I heard Kos has a face.
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>>126634696
there's a 2% chance of an off-shape
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>>126634312

I think the general idea is that the hamlet people worshiped Kos(m) in their own native way for a long time before Burgertown found out about them. Then the hunters and scholars showed up, ransacked the village, dissected some of the villagers and of course took blood from Kos's corpse.
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Reposting from old thread

New to bloodborne here
>Get all pre-bosses in less than 2 tries
>Reach Rom
>5 tries the motherfucker
>try one cheesy kill by killing all the spiders slowly and take him out
>make it
Now, after beating Rom I've been struggling A LOT

I managed to kill The One Reborn but the whole area in front of it was hellishly difficult to go through. Getting 1 hit by almost everything.
>lvl 62 23 vitality
Now I'm trying to finish The crow's questline but the last hunter is absurdly difficult to kill.

I just can't properly progress through the nightmares of mensis either. I can run through it all but I'm just skipping lots of loot and things I should be able to get.
The dude on the bridge of the nightmare just anihilates me with a spray of his gas if I try to fight him.

I've also unlocked the DLC area but its just as difficult to progress here.

I didn't do much chalice dungeons either but I've been told those are optional


What should I do? I'm lvl 62 and I get blown the fuck out in one hit even by normal dudes.
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>>126634619
For style points.
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>>126634415
She's a Queen and the name "Vileblood" was given to her by those that hate her. I think she's probably a very nice person.
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Is an Yhill FRC with Watchers, Boar and BLB worth sharing? The paths to the bosses are easy and it has a blood rock on layer 1.
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Somebody please spoonfeed me which boss and in which chalice gives the best STR scaling gems

I don't currently have PS+ so I cannot use the gylphs
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>>126634719
My first character was a STR/ARC build and I figured I'd just wind up using the axe all the time. Then I got the kirkhammer and cried at how great it is. Then I got the phantasm shell and it got even crazier
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>>126634881
I guess that's what's most important.
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>>126634662
Please respond
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>>126634849
Where's the evidence of the dissection? That's pretty interesting. It sort of makes some sense that if they found a Great One deep under the city that someone somewhere else would fish up a Great One from deep under the ocean.
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>>126634719
After I had already upgraded a Ludwig's to +10. Tears were shed but now I have my kirk at +10 and god damn this is fun. The transformation attacks are way better, and the hyperarmor is more reliable.
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>>126634917
check if you can find 2 normal brainsuckers near lamp
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>>126634872
You may have missed some areas. Look up a guide to get to Cainhurst, but it's still a tough area. Also, you've done hemwick, right?
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I want to marry Annalise!
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>>126634872
>lvl 62 23 vitality
level up some more, you'll need 40+ vit for endgame/dlc.
dont tell me you put 20+ end on your character
If you need to grind lvls put on some moon runes and use the 1st floor lecture hall area(youtube it to see the route to grind)
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>>126634872
Go to Cainhurst and raise your VIT to 30
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>>126634849
Who's the father of the Orphan?

My friend says the church did something to Kos corpse because they wanted to create a Great One (The Orphan) but he didn't give me a source or anything.
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>>126635089
the dude who gives you Accursed Brew is constantly lamenting about Byrgenwerth and the item's description says it was the skull of a local that was forcibly searched for eyes
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>>126635043
I'll tourn on my ps4 and see what level I am.
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>>126635180
>>126635232
Finished Cainhurst before Rom too.

I thought I could explore a bit more old areas too but I dunno
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>>126635107
There is a brainsucker guarding the blood rock, near boss lamp.
I won't be able to share until a week or so, I just wanted to know if it was worth keeping.
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>>126635043
I'm down. My highest is level 62.
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>>126635043
>>126635432
81 but I suck though.
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>>126634930
Pls
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>>126635520
Nightmare frontier might be a good place to explore. Get some poison resist and antidotes and explore caves to find a new boss, amygdala
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>>126635534
>>126635584
I'll use mensis/hamlet gems I guess
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>>126634582
>all those People at Burgerwerth

More Dregs for the Queen.
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>>126635591
Give shapes. I'm sure somebody will help you.
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>>126635680
Thanks!
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>>126635396
Shit I didn't even know you could talk to that guy or get an item from him. My dumb ass just assumed he was an enemy that didn't aggro based on his appearance.

But youre right he did keep mumbling about burger time.
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>>126635743
>>126634930

Radial and triangle mostly, I'm maining the Cutter and planning to use Saif as secondary, but I'm running STR 50 build so I need some STR scaling gems for Saif.
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>>126634930
>>126635591
crf pthumeru ihyll and the headless worm guy, he's always in layer 3.

farming that without glyphs will be a pain in the ass and it will take weeks
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How's the rakuyo overall? would it be better to stick with Chikage?
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>>126633672
FUCKING SIIIIIIIIIIICK
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>>126635685shit I forgot blood bullet!
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Anyone having issues connecting? Can't seem to log in,every other thing is okay,my internet is fine and all, and I do have PS+.
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>>126635685
Don't underestimate me, anon.
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>>126635963
Thanks

I actually really love Chalices and, I love the game to the death so I will just enjoy "wasting" my time with it
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>>126636172
But do underestimate me.
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>>126635690
Noice
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Does anyone want to help me farm for abyssal fire radials from the watchdog ? I've killed him like 15 times and got depleting hp on the only abyssal.
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>>126635887
Go talk to him after you've smoked some milkweed and he'll give you the item
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>>126636512
don't bother with it
2 cold abyssals + 27.2 triangle for fire weapons
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>>126635523
Oh nvm then, maybe others need that blood rock.
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AHH KOS
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>Trick out my Chikage
>Die
>Forget to untrick it
>Die
Everytime.
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>>126636596
OR KOSM or not
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The Bloodletter AOE is fucking bullshit. Fuck off. Broken weapon.
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>>126636003
They are different in pretty much every single aspect, you can't really compare those weapons.

Rakuyo is good, has weird parry windows, has good phantom range, it's fast, has pokes and has good dex scaling. It also has one attack that it's really hard to deal with if the match is laggy.

It's a pure skill weapon though, no BT.
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>>126636715
The telegraph on AOE moves in this game are obvious as fuck. Git gud, scrub.
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>>126636715
iframes, retard
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So the saif hits much further than I expect it to.
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So I farmed my very first cursed Ihyll and now my Boom Hammer has like 800 AR. Is that good?
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>>126636563
Fire abyssal with 15 flat fire is still better than 27s tho. Its small but its there.
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>>126636563
Are the cold abyssal gems always better than percentage fire/bolt gem ?
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Where's a good place to invade as a level 75 character?
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>Decorative Old Hunter Trousers are better than Cainhurst Leggings in pretty much every way
Why? Now I'll never wear the full Cainhurst set without it being purely for cosplay.
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>>126636852
>attack an enemy near the edge of a random cliff
>press attack too late and dash of the cliff during the first swing

I just still can't predict the fucking distance
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>>126634415
She is. She outright tells you she doesn't seek a companion because she doesn't want to corrupt someone she likes.
whatever the corruption even means.
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>>126634582
>>126635201
>>126635690
REMOVE VILEBLOODS
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>>126636972
nah. higher nonflat damage > flat damage due to how multipliers work. so for a fire gem 27.2% is best.
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>>126636636
>die
>go to get a drink
>come back to 'you died'
>lose 100k souls
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>Butt-bowing faggot in 6cb7ieyy
Th-Thanks, /bbg/.
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>>126637202
PRAISE THE WHEEL

WHEEEEL.
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>>126637148
Corruption = Hot kinky bloody sex for the purpose of procreation
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>>126637147
Fighting a saif leaves no safe distance.
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>>126635312

That's because it's speculation. We know very little about the Orphan. The only tantalizing detail is that Gehrman sleeps easier once the Orphan is dead, but as to why that might be we can only guess.

My take is that the Orphan is the root of the Hunter's nightmare; once you punch out his spooky black ghost you get the "Nightmare Slain" message and he is at the top/end of it. I think Gehrman would naturally be distressed about the memory of the hamlet, since he was probably involved in ransacking it and even if he wasn't stuck in it personally, plenty of his fellow hunters were. The release of that kind of guilt would probably let him rest much more easily.
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>>126637223
>>126636636
Glad I'm not the only one this happens to.
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Where's a good place for a level 75 to invade at?
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>>126636596
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>>126637548
why the fuck is she playing dead? is she retarded?
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>>126637203
I already tried them on pizza cutter, fire abyssal hit harder
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Seriously thinking of taking my BL130 to 140. Would allow me to have 50 in VIT, STR and SKL.

The anon in the previous thread kinda convinced me.
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>>126637539

Early parts of the DLC, Yahar'gul, Mensis.
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Hey 4chin, why do lunging attacks get staggered by bullets when their active frames start? It's slow, hard to aim, costs lots of stamina, and has noticeable recovery.

Oh sure, you can't parry it, but that stamina consumption aint given back to you when they shoot you out of the attack.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE SOMEONE IN THE DEC TEAM DIDN'T PUT MUCH THOUGHT INTO THE GAME'S MECHANICS, EVEN THOUGH HE HAD 2 PRIOR GAMES TO DEVELOP IT.
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>>126637309
Let us cleanse these foul Streets, r..right?
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>>126637285
>didn't bullet the first time
and then you got a cheap shot on me during my honorary pre-fight butt bow and tried healing afterwards while getting otherwise flawlessed
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>>126637687
>Early parts of the DLC
If you want to be raped in the ass by gankers.
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>>126637673
>BL130

You're already overleveled, might as well embrace it fully.
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In regards to the lore why exactly are the Vilebloods evil? The Healing Church and the Executioners and the Hunters of Hunters all seem obviously evil but I can't actually figure out why the vilebloods are evil.
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>>126635312
Well Byrgenwerth ascended Rom at some point. The only known way of ascension is through the eyed umbilical cords. It's reasonable to assume that Byrgenwerth, not the Church, opened up the Kos corpse and removed the Orphan (who was clearly not ready to be born yet) and that this is where they got the cord they ascended Rom with. We know Rom was ascended by Byrgenwerth in some ritual due to Micolash's statements. It is possible that it was not through use of the cord but remember that the nightmare of mensis seems to have been hosted by Mergo/Its wet nurse and open slaying them you obtain a cord. It seems Micolash was trying to recreate whatever ritual ascended Rom and the cord is central to it, just as it is for ascending your character.
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>>126637720
>pre-fight butt bow
Na, it became a scrap at that point. Don't disrespect me then expect any different.
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>>126637702
ANON I FEEL AS IF YOU MAY BE A FILTHY VILEBLOOD.
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>>126637823
The issue is we don't exactly understand what corrupted blood is.
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>>126637904
the only thing I'm expecting from you is more free insight
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>>126638007
Savagery
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Didn't realise we were new threading, reposting my old question:

>>126637976
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>>126637904
>Na, it became a scrap at that point.
Calm your autism son. I'll never understand how gestures make someone so upset.
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>>126637980
>vilebloods with CORRUPTED blood, sit in their castle minding their own business
>church fags become malformed beasts and slaughter thousands
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>>126638076
Nightmare of Mensis
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>>126638087
They're the only way we communicate with each other in-game. How else should one react?
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>>126637823
THEY ARE FILTHY AND HOLD DEAR LOGARIUS PRISONER TO DO THEIR FILTHY BIDDING.
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>>126638138
Really? Amy gives people problems? Fair enough. What level are folks there?
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>>126637823

Of course the Church is bad, but I wouldn't expect a remote castle of nobility who sip blood and send their hunters out to murder other hunters for blood semen to be much nicer.
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>>126638174
certainly not by blanking out
lmao
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>people is getting mad over gesture
Its kobra all over again
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>>126638109
I also noticed that. It's pretty clear they have this whole thing with the executioners being the real blood crazed ones. On the flip side though, Vilebloods are supposed to invade to get blood dregs so that the Queen can bear a "child of blood" the nature of this makes them even more confusing.
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>>126638201
Didnt Logarius stay there on his own accord to keep Annalise locked up?
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>Boomhammer
>Gatling gun

FOR THE EMPEROR

If only bone marrow ash actually worked
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>>126638261
You didn't bow. Why bother with you?
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>cooping Paarl
>It's substantially more difficult to defeat in co-op than 1 vs 1

huh
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>>126638174
Laughing it off would probably be a good way to go.
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>>126637202
>>126637309

You don't bring a wheel to a gunfight if you know what's good for you, Executioner
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>>126638376
Because even if someone shi ttalks me in a game I still play with them and I don't play like a faggot just because they shit talked. It's not different. Grow up lil babes.
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>>126637823
They go around killing people, especially hunters, for their blood sperm.
That's not nice.
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How viable is bone marrow ash in pvp with decent bloodtinge and evelyn?
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>>126638579
too viable
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>>126638501
Why are you in a FC with rules if you're not going to obey them?
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>>126638579
Disgustingly so.
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>>126638579
you dont even need bloodtinge for it to be viable. people flop around like fish when they see a glowing gun
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>>126638636
Bowing is a rule now
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>>126638624
Making build lmao

Where's fun to ruin people with ash
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>>126637436
finally some lore talk on vg
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>>126638715
Don't expect people not to heal if you don't bow. Is this your first From Software title?
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>>126639001
lol you're a fag bro. I'm glad that other guy wrecked you.
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>>126637309
WHEEEEEELLL????/
WHEEEEL
WHEEL
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>shitter attacks me while I bow

All bets are fucking off. I will use every scummy tactic in the book to kill him.
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>>126639001
>not bowing on par with healing
Just go back to gimping kids in mensis or something man.
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>>126639001
Not healing is in the FC rules. Bowing is not.
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>>126638715
>>126639001
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PvP in this game is only fun when both players are doing everything they can to kill the other
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>>126639306
Something so fundamental, yet people still bitches about muh duel etiquette
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>>126639306
Then why do we have a fight club then?
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>>126639501
To have a massive circlejerk, obviously.
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>>126639439
I've duelled a bit but ultimately balls to the wall is best
>>126639501
People have different opinions to me
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Wait, do you guys really bow every time before you fight?
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I miss the kick from DaS 1 re: bowing. Because back then I'd just kick them out of their bow.
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>>126639501
I would agree that with FC, having a code would be suitable, but on regular invasions, nigga, you come to shit in my lawn, I'm ravaging your ass in the most dirty way possible.
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Do blood atk gems affect chikage trick form?
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>>126639501
fair fights
the primary rule is blood tapping to ensure we have equal health penalties and the no healing rule is there to preserve it
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>>126639306
>>126639439

Eh, even as someone who spends most of his time random invading I don't agree with that. Duels aren't necessarily the most exciting thing but they're relaxing and a good way to work on more fundamental technique like spacing and timing. It's especially helpful when learning a new weapon, and it's also nice to just have some friendly, low-tension PvP.

I think there's a place for both, like there's also fun to be had in co-oping or general PvE.
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>>126639829
Why don't you bow, then butt-bow after the fight when you know it's disrespectful then? We're all just trying to have a good time.
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Bl 63

Need someone to help me wit amygdala

pass is bbg
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>>126639931
it's a playful gesture
no one should take it seriously
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Managed to get my hands on the Rakuyo, holy shit this thing is strong. Now I see what all the fuss is about. Does being a shitter count if you co-op with it?
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>>126640064
Playful banter and sarcasm don't translate well into gestures. I'm surprised you haven't figured that out already.
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>>126640064
autists take everything seriously.
Its because they lack mirror neurons, they have a fundamentally difficult time knowing how to react appropriately.
Like how seriously to take a small gesture in an online video game.
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Fuck whoever concieved loran darkbeast

What the fuck are you even supposed to do if you were using a short range weapon the whole game? You literally cannot hit him.,
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>>126639816
yes, that's why most people use the lost version, because it has a circle slot

but you lose visceral damage if you use bt gems
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>>126640274
>get saw cleaver
>+10
>fire paper
>darkbeast ded
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>>126640274
I beat him with the cane, untransformed. Get up close and personal, then roll out when he charges up his aoe. Not too hard.
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>>126640024
Sure, one second.
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Is the pizza cutter or wheel good on an arcane build if they're gemmed for it?
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Anyone around to carry my BL 47 blt build through Ludwig?
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>>126640274
stay under him and learn to i-frame his giant fuck-you explosion he does every 5 seconds
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>>126640024
Helping a friend at Rom, if you're not done by then I'll help!
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>>126640227
and I'm surprised you haven't figured out that gun spam doesn't work well against me tbqh

looks like we're both learning something new today right?
this only started because you didn't bullet
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>>126640332

That's why you keep a weapon with 27.2% physical gems in your other slot.
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>>126640339
I swear to god the saw cleaver is the best weapon in the game for PvE
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>>126640410
I forgot to bullet that one time. I bulleted every subsequent time. You still acted like a petulant child all the same.
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>>126640496
duh lol
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Alright so I just got the game last night, and picked a cruel fate to start with. I've died about 4 times now I think and am still in the first area, but I did manage to find an NPC not in a house that talked to me and I managed to find a shortcut through a gate that was next to the respawn point

should I be expecting anything sizeable from the first boss? I love the atmosphere and level design. Reminds me of traversing through Boletaria for the first time. Just so unnerving when the enemies start yelling at you as they try to gank you
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>>126640064
>Bait any of his attacks
>Roll under his legs
>Hug one of them and hit once or twice
>Dodge/outrun AoE
>Rinse and repeat
It's annoying to get one shot, but he ain't that hard.
You can do it, anon!
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I've done Loran, Hintertombs, and the Isz but I still can't finish off fucking chalice Rom.

>Tiny room with tons of OHKO spiders
>Everything goes fine, room empty
>Go to smack Rom
>Spider flies out from behind Rom and slams into me like a meteorite

BL 67, layer 3 pthumerian, password is bbg if anyone would be so kind to help out.
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>>126639846
I'm all for sportmanship, but if someone invades me, I won't play by his rules, and I don't expect him to play by mine. May the strongest/dirtiest/luckiest wins
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>>126640543

Depends which boss you encounter as your first. One is literally sizeable, but kind of underwhelming in terms of difficulty. The other is much more substantial, but less visually striking.
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>>126640578
What if all the invader wants is a friendly duel, and bows first?
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>>126640532
I'm the child?
I'm the one butthurt over gestures?
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>>126640347
Yes, you can get 700ish AR with arcane build
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>>126640024
Was that you?
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>invader can hide behind enemies

What shitter tactics can the host employ?
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>>126640674
Then they should be FCing somewhere else
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Anyone mind helping me with Ludwig? I'm getting one hit in before I have to dodge, and against attrition I'm still too scrubby to outlast him.

If I could do better on first form, second form is a breeze.
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>>126640770

The host doesn't need to, they have more health and a summon.
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>>126640770
Multiple summons, Not having their hp cut by 30%, Not following for obvious traps
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>>126640496
>get to headless BLB
>fire paper and saw cleaver +10
>mash until I get hit, vial and mash again
>dead

I love it so much.
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Why do people put two abyssal cold gems on their arcane weapons and why is it always a radial and a waning one? Why not two radials for example?

Also, aren't multiples of them pretty useless anyway?
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>>126640543
>I wish I could experience this game for the first time again

I found Gasoline as my first boss, but my friend got the beast on the bridge as his first, and he hadn't much trouble with it, compared to how much I got my ass handed when I fought Gasoline.

Just like with DeS, explore slow and steady, but fight aggressive and deadly. Use common enemies to learn to parry
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>>126640770
Return to cleared out area near lantern and waste invader's time.
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>>126640024
Just got helped by someone named Kino, thanks whoever that was. Amygdala was giving me trouble
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>>126640543
the "first" boss is fairly easy and is also optional. the actual first boss does much to teach you about how the rest of the game is gonna go and hes fun as fuck even if you've beaten the game several times

but go out there and slay a few beasts, don't come here and get spoiled
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How would an uncanny saif fare for bolt gems? Or would a lost version be better, as it is for fire.
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>>126640915
So I guess I helped some random before I put the password in.
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>>126640578

Eh, I can't imagine being that much of a stick in the mud about not wanting to duel, but nobody can stop you I guess.
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>>126640770
Crossing the fog gate is pretty OP.
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>>126640743
Want to spoon feed me more and tell me what gems?
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>>126640915
No problem. Bowblade makes quick work of her.
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>>126640867
>>126640496
Why did they make the starting weapon the best weapon in the game? Gonna hit NG+2 soon and Saw Cleaver is looking like my weapon of choice. 50 in each attack stat. +10. Fire paper.
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>>126640674
That's a good question, I'm not sure how the game handles the leveling, because I never invaded yet, but I've been invaded by guys who were really tough to fight.
Though I admit my first build was one for damage input, with really low health, so there's that.

Does the game manages who can and cannot invade you based in your lv?

DeS didn't and man, did I get my ass handed by NG+6 a lot
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As far as a basic first run balance build goes, how's this @ SL 62?

25/24/25/24/7/7

After I hit softcaps for STR/SKL, should I just keep leveling up VIT/END?
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>Shitters who spam their Blunderbuss

is there anything more annoying?
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>>126640870
Its easier to get flat elemental on waning, while on radial its next to impossible. 2 abyssal isnt useless since most weapon has shit scaling
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>>126640686
Why antagonize in the first place?
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>get parried
>recover and roll away
>game teleports me back to take the visceral

Fuck the netcode in this game.
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>>126640576
I'm ringing, friend
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>>126641216
>Shitters
You're just shit yourself if you can't handle a scrub tactic like that.
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>>126641129
Saw Cleaver is my co-op beast melter.

I've taken up Rakuyo for PVP though. Dat spin.
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>>126641009
regular saif is arguably the best, you don't need a 27.2% triangle for the best setup
the difference between the two boils down to whether you want +15 flat bolt or +5-6& open-foe damage on one of your cold abyssals
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I don't know how small this game is but there are only 4 warp headstones and I've played 10 hours and killed the Blood Starved Nigger, gonna have to not play this all day or else I'll beat it in less than a week which would be a shame for a $500 game
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>>126640260
>people aren't like me
>hence they are autists

good memes
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So does this games story follow the sort of grey morality of Dark Souls? Like are the beast for sure evil/mindless?
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>>126640770
>>126640840
>>126640852

Yeah, generally this. Hosts should not need to employ shittery, the best way to get through a level with an invader in it is to do what you'd do when clearing an area for the first time; proceed cautiously, pull enemies one at a time wherever possible, and coordinate with your summons to cover each other when you have to stick your neck out. Run past things if you need to. Slowly and surely eliminate all of the invader's allies until you can reach the boss fog, then walk in; once you hit X at the fog or go in the boss's room you're invincible. Invasion handled. If you can kill the invader before then, great, but if you just keep them from killing you the whole time that's still a win.

However, if you want to hang out in an area and just gank invaders, you can always set up an ambush.
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>>126641217

Flat? I thought I was supposed to be using +% gems on my weapons (uncanny whirligig and uncanny saif). I've got +23.1% radials from the bone ash hunter, +26.2% triangles from the lone watcher with a red aura and a cold abyssal radial from the pthumerian elder. Is this not good then?
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>>126641468
I don't have online so Saw Cleaver is my bae 4 lyf. Thinking of making a separate 'kinfucker' weapon, though.
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>>126638109
>killing hunters and stealing there sperm
>minding there own business
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>>126641263
you deserve to get BM'd
nothing more
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>Cainhurst set's helmet has the Blood Dreg design on its face.
>Blood Dregs basically are and look like blood sperm
>Cainhurst helmet has a sperm design
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Anyone need help? Post level and password.
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>>126641485
10 hours to get to BSB? Don't worry, play on.
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>>126641375
I was asking if there is something more annoying, not is there something harder to handle.
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>>126641361
Holy shit was that quadruple the spiders? That placement is why I hate this fucking boss.
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>>126641512
This game's plot is basically boiled down to "awful people doing awful things"

Why? Buy the game and find out.
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>>126641705
Need help at Cainhurst Boss door. BL58 and pas is honk
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>>126641696
did you realy expect anything else from the faction who gives other peoples sperm to there queen?
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>>126641807
I'm playing it, killed vicariously and then the witch recently. Guess I'm just hunting shit.
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>>126641840
I might try after chalice Rom
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>>126641512
things aren't as simple as they seem, as the US marketing of this game will lead you to believe.
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>>126641696
sounds great to me
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>>126641951
i was like you once.

then i jumped into a lake
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>>126641512
There is at least one beast that is sentient enough to tell you that beasts never chose to be beasts, and that you are the real beast for killing them. Enjoy.
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>>126641217
Also, regarding this

>2 abyssal isnt useless since most weapon has shit scaling

My main doubt with this whole cold abyssal thing is that with only one my whirligig has already gone from B to S arcane scaling, hence why I find it strange that people are using two. I don't have two to test though.
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>>126641485
>$500
PS4: $299
Game: $20
Nice job overpaying faggot.
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>>126641840
I'm ringing. You still there?
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>>126642221
https://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3v670y/i_made_a_spreadsheet_for_calculating_weapon/
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Can the hosts tell I'm a HoH and they're blood addled or do they see me as a normal cooperator?
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>>126641070
707 AR with offshape radial
>>126641578
I meant flat elemental for 2nd stat. Your gem is good but its not the best.
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>>126642424

They can tell, you're purple and have a different message when arriving.

Some don't notice, though.
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>>126642424
they'll know
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>>126642335
Naw some one else from the general helped instead, thanks both of you.
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Need help with Ludwig, sick dude from early morning/last night here, still running my face at him.

Ringing at lamp right before him, password gbb
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>>126638579
did you play dark souls?

do you remember how idsgusting was fighting black magic users, especially if they were from shit tier asian countries like korea and thailand?

you dodge their shit but you still get hit. well it's not as bad as black magic because it doesn't kill you in one hit, but it does at least 40% of your hp (high blood resistance and 50vit)
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>>126642458
>offshape radial

I'm gonna assume this was sheer luck, right?
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>>126638579
its like 750 dmg on a level 100-110. The repeater actually does more damage
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>farming Ihyll
>realize I have 500k echoes
>lever madman chases me to the lamp
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http://strawpoll.me/6378053
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>>126642847
Gimme a minute.
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What do AR, HMPFH, and SRRC mean?
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>>126638109
Heretic please you faggots go out of your way to kill people to feed your fucking crazy ass queen.
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>Pic related
kek

Summoning my fellow Blood-bros
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>>126642847
I'm there, already rang the bell.
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>>126643284
only 7 have even voted
shouldnt have made it
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Do I send old lady in central yar to church or clinc?
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>>126643058
true great ones (no kin bullshit). I'd become a squid.

voting for the vilebloods, they did nothing wrong as far as I know.
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>Saw Cleaver is best weapon in the game
>It's a strength weapon
>Ergo, strength builds are the best in the game

Well, that was easy. The only questions is whether I should go pure str or str/btg.
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>>126643378
>Clinic
For what purpose?
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>>126643378

Clinic.
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>>126643378
who do you trust more, the creepy hooded dude crouched on the floor or the creepy doctor lady you can barely even see?
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>>126643487
>calling a quality weapon that scales slightly better with strength is a strength weapon

Yea, sure anon
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Anyone wanna help with defiled hotdog? Pass is bbg
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>>126643487
It's quality/strength m'hunter.
50/25 is officially the best build.
Saw Cleaver and Kirkhammer are the best weapon and most fun weapon in the game respectively.
BLT is not worth in in my experience unless you go over SL125 or you don't invest on anything else.
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>TFW regretting your character's hairstyle over 200 hours in
Just kill me now.
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>>126643883
what is hats
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>>126643185
Halp plz
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>>126643883
which hairstyle?
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>>126643836
>It's quality/strength m'hunter.
With heavy abyssals you can reach great AR with a pure 50 STR.
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>>126643883
>beat father gasoline
>realize I have black hair and blonde eyebrows
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>>126644006
Lurk moar
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>>126643883
>tfw still no in-game character editor

literally all I want.
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>>126644121
Go talk to your family, fag.
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>>126637436
I figured it was because Gerhman gets pulled into the HN when he sleeps in the dream. Only the MP is responsible for him not being trapped there for eternity like the other hunters.
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>>126643883
>not having your head and face covered at all times

It's like you wanna catch beast aids.
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>>126644123
You can get some facial hair if you wish.
Even for your female character.
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>>126644120
it's just the first boss anon you have time to kill yourself and start over
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>>126644006
short ritual root chalice, (you use it for coop and invasions)
attack rating
not sure what the fuck the other shit means, got this game 4 days ago, it's probably a joke or some shit. there's one boss that won't shut up in pthumeru 5, I guess it's a reference.

I just realized I need to look for bloodborne comics and pics. I used to have soo many des/das comics but I lost them
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>>126643973
>>126644038
>>126644120
>>126644123
>>126644256
Yamamura's set looks best without a hat for that samurai look on my Chikage character. I chose long hair instead of a ponytail though, so the whole samurai look is kill now.
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>>126643804
A-anybody?
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Micolash is pure sex.
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>>126644464
Just be a ronin instead of a samurai. You are bound by no rules or code.
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>>126633672
>Laurence's second phase

why ?

why ?

Like his first phase wasn't annoying enough. I have no clue on how I am suppose to hit that cunt without getting smashed in the process.

Seriously one of the shittiest boss in the series.
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Do we have a bbg skype? Is it autistic? Wanna chew the fat about bb with some folks, I'm bored
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>>126644464
ponytail masterrace, unless it starts clipping through shit.
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Anybody want to take turns spelunking a fresh new CFR Ihyll dungeon? I've never actually done this but I'm assuming we just do each layer with one person, then do it again with the other person as host, then proceed to the next layer?

My password will be bbgp1

and the dungeon is wk5b3g7u
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>>126644570
Hug his right (your left), and dodge his big overhead swings. He's strong as fuck but not impossible, just learn his moveset and when to hang back.
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>>126644570
the second phase is a joke, just hug him then proceed to rip and tear. I haven't died to his second form yet
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>>126644570
>another i suck and the boss is rekting me so it is now the shittiest boss in the series post.
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>8 blood rocks
>only 40 chunks
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>>126644620
Ponytail and yharnam hunter set is pure sex.
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Saw cleaver or Uncanny saw cleaver for pve?
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>>126644691

>My password will be bbgp1 and the dungeon is wk5b3g7u

Can someone explain this shit to me? I'm new.
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>>126644517
lemme try that again anon, this time without my covenant equiped
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>>126644723
ah, I was trying to hug his left side like in the first phase, I'll try that tomorrow, thanks

>>126644736
>the second phase is a joke, just hug him then proceed to rip and tear. I haven't died to his second form yet
good for you, but that kind of shit is subjective I guess

>>126644802
not at all. I've been rekt by bosses that I consider great, like Manus for instance.

I juste find the design of this fight to be particularly shitty.
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>>126644852
Like it matters. Stick bolt/fire paper on it and you are a god.
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>>126644945
My main issue with him was his hitbox on the second phase. For some reason, it's tiny.
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>>126644667
kek
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>>126644885
You set a password to coop with other players and you can create chalice dungeons that have a certain name called a glyph.
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The one area in the game you always NOPE through.

Mine is the Forbidden Woods caves that lead to Iosefka's Clinic. Fuck that shit.
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>>126644885
You set your password to match in your network settings, and the gibberish is a dungeon glyph that you can look for using the chalice dungeon search icon
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>>126645236
>>126645307

I see. Thanks
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>>126644667
can someone translate*
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I understand cursed halves health, but what does F and R do?
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>>126645253
Cainhurst Castle as a whole.
Grab items, avoid ghosts and gargoyles.
No seriously, fuck that place
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>>126645404
Get the PlayStation Messages app on your smart phone. Then you can copy text from PSN messages into a machine translator.
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Suck my dick all of you fucking newfags
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>>126645481
The fleas man, the fleas.
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99 ARC build users, how much elemental AR you can dish out from LHB with cold abyssals?
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>>126645481
Cainhurst is amazing. I like killing everything and just admiring the interiors.
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>>126645597
Angry at literally nothing.
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>>126645597
Which post in particular triggered you today, oldfriend?
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>>126645729
It feels like this breed between Castlevania and the Beauty and the Beast for me, I wish it was bigger. And that the exteriors looked less shitty.
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>active invasions in Byrgenwerth

I didn't think this place would get many hits but I guess I have our newfriends to thank
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>>126646089
Invasions there are the best. Having an NPC to fight with levels the playing field a lot.
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Nametags for weapons when?
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>>126642458
where the hell did you get that waning and triangle?
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>>126646089
Byrgenwerth has always been one of the best places to invade because of the level range, the small area, and the NPC hunter.
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Anyone up to help me with abhorrent beast? I'm BL98 in a depth 5 chalice. Ringing with abhbbg password.
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>>126646330
Hopefully never.
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>>126646089
Lots of PVErs in Mensis as well. Just got a guy who attacked me on sight and ran after me in the frenzy area.
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>>126645253
Upper Cathedral Ward. I hope I never have to go through that again.
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>>126645253

The Unseen Village, post-Blood Moon.

Fuck respawning enemies.
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Anyone wanna help with defiled amygdala? pw is squid69 bl100 in ng
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>>126646438
i'm bored, i'll ring through SRRC
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>>126646438
omw as well
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I think these type of games could use a bit of narration

like an NPC that would identify the weapons with history you find and do a small stage to truely unlock their power

like soul sacrifice
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>>126647021
>That picture
Why are you making me feel this way, anon?
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>>126644691
Lost Chikage and lots of blood addled hunters on the first floor, otherwise unremarkable
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>>126646867
>>126646936
Thanks both, only one of you arrived and we killed him.
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if anyone is farming abyssals related to arcane/fire/bolt (scaling or related to scaling builds), i'll help. i steam roll through pthumerian elder with my whirligig.
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>level 160 with only 1000 HP

What are these guys playing at?
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>>126647021
>a narrator with a smooth, black voice reads out all the item descriptions you examine

would make for a nice DLC.
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>Go through game with bell maidens active
>get zero invasions

Do people even invade outside of the nightmare areas?
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>>126647021
>>126647205
i dont get it
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>>126647681
Do people even want to invade gank squads with at least one twink?
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>>126647021
>>126647551
Let me vocaroo your fav descriptions in my victorian accent
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Any difference between BLB and headless BLB gem drops?
I was doing some spelunking and got a 23.6% +15phys tempering from normal BLB, pretty good considering I didn't farm it.
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>tfw bloodletter twink

I don't even know why some of you bothered to korea farm, I do so much damage with hamlet winter lantern gems.
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What's your dregs/hour rate in Mensis?
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>>126647851
I WANT ANIME LOLI
READ DOLLS HAIR CLIP
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So bbg, how much harder is Chalice Ebrietas compared to story mode?

I hate this boss so much, just reached layer 3 on Isz and I'm shitting my pants.
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>>126647551
>>126647021
http://vocaroo.com/i/s07NDvL8m1fQ I tried something.
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>>126648449
h e l l
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>>126648449
I love Ebrietas for some reason. She is so majestic.
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>>126648469
your voice is great but it doesn't seem to go with bloodborne
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>>126648449
It's really a DPS race for me. If you manage to mash on her hard enough and break her legs, she doesn't pose much of a threat.
Use Church Pick with fire or bolt papers.
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>>126648179
http://vocaroo.com/i/s12HU7ojvz3Y
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>Buy ps4 and BB
>Play 2 hours, get fucking destroyed by everything
>Buddy comes over, has played 1k hrs DS
>He is getting raped for 3 hours

We didn't even beat the first boss yet, should we just kill ourselves?
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>>126648449
I thought the story chalice one was way easier.

My least favorite thing about the main game fight is the arena so not getting stuck on rocks is great.
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Could someone help me kill these god damn giants guarding Rakuyo? Ringing the bell at the lighthouse lamp. Pw: bbg9000

I already cleared the winter laterns in the hall.
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>>126648449
story Ebrietas is basically the same thing adjusted for your gems

FRC Ebrietas is where the pain starts

tip: if you cant dodge the charge, just stand still unless you're in second phase
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>>126648449
If you have any type of strong Range she is easy, but with melee only she is hell. had to level to 54 to kill her with Blacksky Eye.
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>>126648852
no keep at it guys
I got my friends to play it they get molly wooped
just have fun
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>>126648616
me too anon
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how you beat father gasgoine. notes said "use fire" but I hit him with a torch and it ain't doin SHIIIIIT
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>>126648943
>FRC Ebrietas is where the pain starts
Unless you get one with the structure in the middle.
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>>126648875
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>>126648635
I'll agree. Was thinking of putting on a bit of an accent for it, but don't think that'd work too well either.
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>>126648875
I'll help you, but let's do it like this: you summon me, but stay at the Lamp. I'll go down and slap those Sharks. if I die I'll just ring my small Bell again. This may take a while but atleast there is no risk of you dying.
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>>126648821
bloodborney but shit mic
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>>126648852
BB knocks you off your feet after having played DS for a long time. One might say it's a whole new beast.
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>>126648852
cleric beast?

Don't worry, it really is an adjustment going from ds to bb.

Especially if you always played with a shield and or ranged.

Cleric Beast being faster than most bosses in DS2 is also another factor in the difficulty-and there are faster bosses in the game still.
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>>126649086
His last phase is weak to fire. You shouldn't just use fire though. You're weapon will do more way more damage.

Better to work on you parry timings.
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>>126649479
I don't know what button parries
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>>126643836
>BLT is not worth in in my experience unless you go over SL125 or you don't invest on anything else.
Nigger, even with only 25BT the Bloodletter will hit 400+ R1's in PVP with offshapes.
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>>126649086
oil urns and molotovs work really well when he is in his final form
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>>126648969
>>126648943
>>126648870
>>126648651
>>126648616
>>126648497
Oh well shit.
About to give it a try, pray for me.
Also thanks for the tip about the charge.

I love her design, H A T E the fight itself though
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>>126649228
Ok ringing now.
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>>126649532
Shoot him with your gun when he attacks. Walk up and attack once to perform a visceral.
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>>126649532
You shoot the beasts to parry them
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Any1 want to help with loran darkbeast?

BL 78,
Ailing Lower loran,
Pass: bbgadb
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>>126649086

Parrying is the way to beat him, each visceral attack takes like 1/5th
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>all these lady maria cosplayers
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>>126649685
>>126649686
does this have to be right when the attack starts or when he is mid swing. Every time I try to shoot they tend to ignore it.
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Anyone fancy helping my lvl 40 ayy shitter through Maria? pass is kek
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>>126649846

its different for different animations
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>>126649846
As soon as they swing. When gascoigne turns into the beast and starts swinging wildly just backup and shoot him until it parries
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>>126649792
>alucard
>lady maria
>blt
>Jim
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>>126649228
Thanks bro!
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>>126649648
That went great, hope you enjoy the Rakuyo
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>>126649534
400 is a lot against level 50 players? It seems meager.
Maybe you should get better gems.
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>>126649846
You want to hit him just when he begins to swing.

The timing is different for different attacks.

Remember you can use up on the D-Pad to make 5 blood bullets, if you run out.
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>>126649695
I'm ringing, but nothing so far.
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>>126649695
I can try to search you with short root ritual chalice if you still need help
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>>126650057
I don't quite understand your post, can you elaborate?
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>>126649846
As>>126649939 said it depends on the attack.

Try practicing with the ogres/giants/brutes that are near the shortcut of the first lamp of Yharnan, it leads you near the great bridge where the Cleric Beast fight is.
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>>126633672
Is there a post patch 1.09 way of cheesing the bloody crow? The fight is so fucking fun if it wasnt for that tracking pistol that sometimes kills in one hit for no reason.
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>moonlight sword is shit on arc builds
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>>126650259
I don't think 400 damage on an R1 is that impressive, since lower level players have lower defenses.
In any case, the scaling in bloodletter is so big that going up to 50 BLT will always be worth it unless you want to twink.
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>>126650492
Just backtrack. He will trick his chikage periodically until he reaches 25% of his health (even after his one heal). Get in, don't get greedy. He sidesteps before shooting.
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Okay, >>126646438 here again. Been fucking around with loran darkbeast but I'm fed up with his fucking retarded animation and the fucking fps drops during the fight. Also, me being a shitter doesn't help either. Help would be appreciated, ringing with lorandb.
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>>126649147
your viscerals won't do nearly as much unless you're a dex buikd.
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>>126650656
its just so annoying that sometimes the pistol tracks and sometimes it one shots instead of two out of no where. is there a reason for this?
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>>126650786
You're getting counter hit on the end of your dash.
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>>126650138
God damnit.
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>>126649695
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccckk
We were so close.
Lets do it again.
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would a rifle spear build benefit that much from going to 50/25 skill quality instead of just 50 skill alone? either way i'll be gemming it with nourishing so the shooting benefits as well.
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>>126650849
Oh that makes sense. god damn it
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>>126650887
Yeah he one shot me with the slam ;-;
ringing again
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>>126650623
It's pretty damn good for only a 25 point investment. I have a 98 char that also only has 25 tinge on the side for mainly bow trolling in PVP, but the Bloodletter still hits ~350 ish to most players I'd invade.
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>>126650914
You shouldn't gem with nourishings, phys gems already increase bloodtinge AR and they will give you more AR with no downsides.

STR/SKL scaling in rifle spear is 30% STR and 70% SKL, so you should do fine with SKL only. You'll be missing on 10% AR or so if you stay at 10STR instead of 25, no big deal.
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Ok bbg. I have a question. I finally got two friends to try bloodborne and it was a mixed response. The problem is that they both liked their character and I don't know if I should delete them, or level them up and run a new build. One's str and the other is skill, and I've always wanted to do a blt char. So which goes better with blt, skl or str?

Neither characters got far enough to level so that's not a problem thou I'm at work and can't remember what was where stat wise.
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Which would be more fun: chikage, bowblade and evelyn or a space wizard with the cane and axe?
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>>126651306
sorry, didn't mean nourishing, meant tempering (always confuse the two)

would the 10% AR sacrifice be worth it for 50 vit and 20 endurance?
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>>126650534
what gems and stats?
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>>126650775
Holee shit it's almost like Rakuyo is intended for SKL builds

That webm was with a +6 BoM and 30 SKL. Man up.
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question: what the heck are these "offshapes" you guys keep mentioning?
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Hey guys, just got the game and was wanting to know about 2 things: 1. Is there magic in this game? I haven't found a single spell, staff, etc. yet, but i'm not very far in, just beat the Shadows. 2. How close am I to getting a dex focused weapon, if I just got the Radiant Sword Hunter Badge? I've been using the cane/whip because of its C scaling, but surely they'll give me something better soon? Even Dark Souls gave you the Uchi fairly early on.
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>>126650534
Hey baby wanna post those gems/stats?
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>>126650887
Thanks for doing all the heavy lifting confederate
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>>126651454
I think it'd be worth it for the 50VIT and 12-15END, spear rifle doesn't really use much stamina and you will be shooting a lot anyway.
Maybe investing in BLT instead would be worth it, how much are you aiming for?
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>>126651884
There's magic in the form of hunter's tools. You'll find some later and they range from useless to pretty okay.
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>>126651342
I doubt the build matters in regards if they liked or not the game, unless they were trying that
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>>126651812
Enemies usually drop a certain shaped gem which fits into the slots of your weapon. Sometimes an enemy will randomly drop the same gem but as a different shape.

It's extremely rare, and some builds can benefit a lot from having gems that wouldn't otherwise be available if it weren't for the off-shape.
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>>126651967
Couldn't have had clear shots at his legs without you, friend.
Glad we caught him.
Feel free to ask for help on other bosses!
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>>126651975
i don't plan on using anything but skill-based weapons on this build (i have another build that i centered around BLT only, so chicago and bowblade transformed).

my ideas were rifle spear/church pick, rifle spear/reiter.
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>tfw you use the wooden shield for the first time thinking it'd be worth something
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>>126651812
Sometimes, gems that should have a predefined shape drop in a different shape. It's really rare, but for some builds it can get you a bit more damage.
Example: Merciless Watchers in pthumeru chalices drop radial tempering gems, but there's a small chance it will be a triangle/waning geminstead, with unchanged attributes.
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This shit any good for some weapon?
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>>126652124
Haha yeah it was straight up just bait and switch.
That was actually the last boss I needed to get my weapon, but im down for coop whenever
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>>126652346
kos parasite if you have low arc or want to punch people
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>>126651884
You could have at least 2 dex weapons by now, saw spear and rifle spear.
They're in central yharnam and old yharnam respectively, try and find them.
Scaling is not that important until you get good gems anyway, focus on VIT until you get decent ones.
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Im using the Rifle Spear and nobody can stop me!
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>>126652640
I'm using it too

it's stockholm syndrome desu
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>>126652190
Get 10BLT, 15END, 50VIT, rest on STR.
At BL98 that should be enough. Church pick benefits decently from STR, can't go wrong with leveling it up.
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So first time I got to ailing loran it actually made me feel like I was exploring old tombs. From the sand everywhere, to the long bridges across chasms.

I just speedran pthumeru to ailing.
So two questions, are there any other cool dungeons besides loran and pthumeru, and if I actually bother to do, say hintertomb, are there any worthwhile rewards besides CHALICE MATERIALS
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>>126652219
>tfw you get to FRC dungeons and wooden shield becomes indispensable
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Can I find a lot of Madman's Knowledge in Chalcie dungeons?
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>>126653027
sick meme
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Tips on killing Orphan of Kos(m)? I can get it down to half before I get my shit pushed in.
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/r/-ing ludwig rape horse edit please and thanks.
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>>126652801
looks like i'm doing a skill quality build. now that i think about it, a 50 skill/50 BLT build might be perfect for a rifle/spear + bowblade build.
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>>126653156
Rifle Spear is garbage, and Bowblade is only good for cheesing PvE. Sounds like a waste of time.
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God fuggin damn that was too close, I felt my asshole pucker.

Now just one more leap before I get my little parasite-kun.. Not sure if I'm gud enough.
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Guys, which is the better for a 50skl/20arc build? The Saw Spear or Saw Cleaver? I presume it's the Spear because of the better SKL scaling but I'd rather ask first.
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anyone willing to help me with phtumeru descendant? pw is bbg123
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>>126653004
Isz is neato.

Don't bother with Hintertomb the only thing you'll get out of it is a unique gank boss and a set of clothing.
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>>126653228
there are no bad weapons, only communities that advocate the use of only a small subset of weapons that fit into the meme metanarratives.
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>>126653131
Anyone? Please anons?
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>tfw using madaras whistle on shitters who chase you
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>>126653414
Saif, actually.
If that can't be, get spear. Why 20ARC though?
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God why is /bbg/ so good? everytime I've asked for help I've gotten it, every question answered, every person who I've summoned from here is bro tier.

I love you guys.
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>just cooped with someone named "FluidDruid"

It was one of you, wasn't it?
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madman's knowledge man where can i find em in the chalice dungeons please!
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Any tips on dealing with Kos?
I keep failing to his jumping attacks and I can't parry him.
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>>126654158
Fuck off
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>going through chalices at level 43
Twink life is a hard life.
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>>126653820
How about you give us more informations like glyph lvl and shit
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>>126654158
FUCK YOU
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>>126653738
Is it the madman set?
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>>126654158
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>126653820
>>126654505
Oh shit i thought you ment ringing, sorry
and anyway, im sure editing doesn't take 20 min
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WHAT GEMS DO I USE FOR AN ARC HMS?
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>Cleric Beast is Ludwig
>Forgotten Madman is Ludwig
>the village of Vaati
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>>126654657
I found it, i thought i saw it last thread.

Thanks anyway anon.

I dont have ps+ anyway so, everything i did so far in the game has been on my own.
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>>126654724
>Mergo is the One Reborn
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>>126654104
Was supposed to be 15 for shell but I somehow remembered that shell needed 20 and I'm lazy to make another character to correct this.
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>>126654631
>>126654513
>>126654284
trying to be /v/ you guys
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>make contact skeleton is making contact toward the clock tower
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>>126654859
y...youre right, my god.
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>>126654785
oh well, i thought the "original" one from the berserker manga was the one you were looking for. I know your feel, though i only use it to PvP and did everything on my own so far too because i don't trust summons
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>>126654669
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/10/best-blood-gems-setups.html
Probably a cold abyssal with 2 Arcane %.
Don't go for flat ARC because it won't benefit from the retarded wave modifiers.
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>>126655151
Pretty sure that page doesn't have the best setup for Arc, only the normal ATK up setup.
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Anyone else notice just how many enemies in the chalice dungeon have animations for when they've lost sight of you, or have just noticed you?

Makes me wonder if this was once planned to be a stealth game or something
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>>126654158
get the fuck out of here you faggot
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>>126654568
yes
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So what exactly is this plague spreading across Yharnem? I understand that at certain times across the generations that The Hunt starts where people infected turn into Werewolves, but what actually starts it? Why is it a tradition instead of something people put an end to?
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>>126654284
>>126654513
>>126654631
>>126655660
<3 I love you hoonters.
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Why did Ludwig turn into a horse
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>tfw you made a uncanny saif +10 and then learn that bolt is better on radial/radial/waning, which regular saif has.

i suffer
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>>126654158
It's okay Anon, I love you too

and your cute ass ;)
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>>126655998
It's not a plague, it's blood ministration, which just about everyone was treated with.
Shit's full of Vermin. Vermin slowly grows and turns you into a beast.
If you give in, you turn into a basic yiff.
If you resist, it eventually grows out of your spine and horribly alters you like cleric beasts.

You're only okay because you've been a hunter for one day.
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Ludwig feels like a gamble. I have fought him 30ish times now. Im not using any vials anymore the only thing that kills me is the fucking jump. What do /bbg/
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>>126656214
thanks boo
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>>126656309
>vermin
>real
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>>126653105
Please? Someone? I'd really appreciate some help, he's kicking the shit out of me
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>>126655298
I used the regular ARC weapons and Kos parasite as references, I just posted as an example of shapes and numbers to look for.
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>>126656309
One night.
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>>126644006
AR = attack rating
SRRC = short ritual root chalice
HMPH = pic related
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>>126650492
Get him to chase you down the stairs and go outside behind the doors. Eventually he'll either get stuck on the doors or near the doors and you can just poke at him safely.
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>>126656309
So how does people getting the equivalent of bad blood transfusions lead to an annual hunt?

Also how does being a hunter not make you beasty
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>>126656392
If he does that weird lunge attack where he actually floats a little bit in the air, you can pretty much just walk to the right or left towards him to evade it, but required is that you're close to him at the same time, so if he does that from afar you should just dodge. While he hits the ground he is really open to backstabs so it should be easier when you're skill, and a little bit of a relief when you're strength
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>>126656339
Run in a straight line when he jumps
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>>126656382
explain to me how vermin finds it's way into the particularly nasty beasts then, anon

checkmate vileblood scum
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>>126656641
I eneded up fighting him fair and then cheesed him for the last tenth of his life bar cause he kept fucking spamming the pistol.

molotovs for dayz
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>>126656382
>Bloodletting is the act of trying to remove Vermin
>Bloodletting Beast is covered in wounds
>Headlessing Beast is decapitated but the Vermin still lives
>Kos Parasite has 600 fucking durability
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>The deepest, widest gratitude.
>Yes!
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>>126656651
Several items state the unbreakable will of the hunter.
Blue Elixir, Threaded Cane, probably some more.
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>>126656794
Exactly, it doesn't. You just believe it's in there and think you got it after you kill it.
Keep living in your fantasy world, league bro
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>>126656651
have you played this game, anon?

the first real boss in the game is a hunter who succumbs to the beastly plague

the blood isn't even human
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>>126656382
there's an npc that drops vermin regardless of whether you have the rune equipped

get out vaati
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>>126656309
>plague in Cainhurst
>plague in Loran
>plague wherever Yamamura came from
>plague wherever Valtr came from
>people still think Yharnam was cursed with vermin


This vermin=curse of kos=Beast plague fanfiction needs to stop. The game gives way more justification for not believing that than believing it. There's nothing even solidly linking vermin to Blood
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>>126657293
more than one. I've never used the rune and have something like 5 vermin
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>go through chalices at level 30
>first two depths are easy
>depth 3 everything rapes my ass in one hit

The difficulty spike is real.
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Anyone want to help me with Ludwig?

Level 62, at the fog gate


Password will be bbghorse


If someone helps Thank you
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>>126656213
you can just get a triangle cold abyssal
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Just realized FC was yesterday, and i was hoping for some fights today. Damn.
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>>126657324
>plague in Cainhurst
Vilebloods drink vile, corrupted blood. Woah shit that sounds familiar
>plague in Loran
There is almost nothing stated about Loran.
>Yamamura, Valtr
Why would the beasts of Yharnam stay in Yharnam when it's full of hunters and death?
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So is there any reason to go through Hintertomb, or is it all a giant waste of time?
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>>126657293
In a nightmare realm where unreal things like Laurence's human skull exist.
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>>126657608
Unique boss and a new clothes set.
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>>126657479
I'll give it a go, let me just boot the game up, be there in a minute
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>>126657608
Triangles. Madman set. Brainsuckers for flat arc.
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>>126657608
short root chalice is in hintertomb iirc
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>>126657753
Thank you, I'll be here
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the hunter in Byrgen is the most bullshit thing in any game ever made, FUCK
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>>126657479
Another anon, ringing already, friend.
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>>126657620
>nightmare realm isn't real
>make a new skill character
>suicide run for saif
>come back to HD
>it's fucking gone
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I thought there were only 2 witches in the Witches of Hemwick fight?
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>>126657596
They actually imply the Cainhurst nobles had been hunting Beasts long before the Vilebloods' inception.

Pretty much the only thing stated about Loran is that a plague occurred there.

Yamamura is from the Far East. Note FAR East. Not close. Beasts wouldn't migrate so far out of the city just to run back to Yharnam and get fucked
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>>126657952
>Hunters "Dream"
>dreams and nightmares are basicly the same
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>>126658006
If you take too long they revive each other.
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>>126657917
Christmas boys in full effect.

Just wait until the boss of the area. You'll love it.
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>>126657917
>tfw you hear her cast a call beyond when trying to make it up the ladder
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>>126658085
You got me. On a relative note if any one would like to ring a small bell in Byrgen it would be much appreciated.
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>>126658047
Wait, i thought cainhurst nobles were vilebloods too. Who are the vilebloods exactly?
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>>126658085
>mfw I've been invading newfriends in Byrgenwerth all day
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>>126658078
Yeah, but the other one started shooting at me and the health bar was still empty.
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>>126657937
>>126657753

God damn that jump attack

Ringing again if you guys still want to help
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>>126657814
yo something came up, I'll be able to help in a few minutes, I'll let you know. Sorry
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>>126657917
>Dies to easy encounter
>MOST BULLSHIT THING IN ANY GAME EVER MADE

Every time
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>>126658258
Vilebloods are Cainhurst nobles. But the Cainhurst nobles didn't become Vilebloods until after the scholar brought them Forbidden blood. Cainhurst had been dealing with Beasts long prior to this
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>>126658418
>easy encounter
>can one hit you easily with magic, every move takes half your health
>tanks like a mother fucker, can survive multiple parries
Fuck you
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>>126657789
no. Hintertomb literally only has the Madman set.
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>>126658418
Yurie has maxed stats. Most powerful hunter confirmed.
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Why does everything in the DLC have 10 billion HP? For example, every NPC hunter fight has the durability of a Greek god and requires exploiting their AI to defeat. Like walking around a rock for 10 minutes and taking potshots at the minigun dude.

Did the devs think this was good game design?
>>
I want to do a Church Pick run, but the obvious roadblock is Ludwig.

How difficult will the Holy Blade be with a +6 weapon at level ~35?
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>>126658584
>Beast roar
>r1r1r1r1

Or just shoot during those gigantic "PARRY ME" attacks. Yurie's probably one of the easier NPC Hunter fights. Early Iosefka, the Yahar'Ghul couple, Henryk and bloody crow are exponentially worse
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>>126658676
the fuck are you even talking about?
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>>126658676
I'll only agree with NPC hunters and their HP. FRC Chalices are fucking hell when you run into to too many hunters

>able to take away 80% or more of your HP in one hit
>3-4k HP
>even backstabs to start on high skl builds don't always win it right off

Don't get me started on fucking Queen Killer or Chikage Hunters.
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>>126658676
Well, if you go at the DLC the moment it becomes available then yes, it's quite difficult.
But the hunters are easily parried and are not that hard overall.
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>>126658561
Ah, i understand now, thanks
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>>126658732
more difficult than getting a +10 mensis gemmed saw spear
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>>126658732
I did it literally at 25 the other day, I had two summons from here though. Depends on your help
Keep your distance and go in for hits when he's distracted or use your gun to get his attention to help your allies when they're low. Its very possible.
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>>126658676
>shitter on 4chan
>claiming to have any inkling what good game design is

I guess the majority of people here are junior game designers
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>>126658732
pretty fucking difficult. every spasm will likely 1-shot

godspeed anon, i believe in you
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>>126658834
What about Queen Killer or Chikage Hunters?
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How do i get the CRF chalices? I'm up to the Ailing Loran ones and they are soooo daaamn boooorrrrriing
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>>126633672
Can anyone help level 76 NG pn Laurence the first viscar can use any password
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>>126659197
if only there were something in the OP that might have that kind of information? maybe it'd even have some sort of comprehensive guide for it?
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>>126659162
FUCKING CHIKAGE HUNTERS CAN THROW NUMBING MISTS AND SOMETIMES SPAM EVELYN. QUEEN KILLER HAS ENDLESS AMMO FUCKING CANNONS GOD FUCKING DAMN IT

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>Fight the bird guy in the Grand Cathedral
>Get him low but he keeps healing
>Eventually die
>Appear back at the Chapel
>Decide to browse the internet for a bit
>Hear my character scream
>Forgot to untrick my Chikage
Thankfully I only lost 5k echos.
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>>126658359
It's ok, we got him

And that's to the Anon that stuck with me. That was great
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>>126658676
>Too hard, i. iiit's bad design!

Why does /v/ have to shit up other boards.
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>>126659389
That was me. It went really well
Glad we caught him :)
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>>126659231
omw pass bbg
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>>126659231
ill help pass?
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Not sure if it was one of y'all that helped me but thanks a ton if so, those were some sick parries on that hunter.
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Help /bbg/ what is the funnest weapon?

I've killed rom and I can't spam R1 with this cleaver any longer
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>>126659730
Whirligig Saw
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>>126659630
bbg
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>>126659730
Rakuyo.
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>>126659730
YOU HAVE TWO CHOICES, BOTH OF THEM SPIN

ARE YOU ABLE TO GUESS WHAT YOUR CHOICES ARE, GOOD HUNTER?
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Is the wheel any good on a pure Arc build? I don't understand how the transformed mode works
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Any tips on what to level /bbg/?

This is my first time playing. I was thinking of going for a skill based build. Currently using threaded cane +7 and a pistol.

Should.I continue to spec into bloodtinge and avoid arcane altogether?

Sorry if the.image is upside down or something btw
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>>126659730
>>126659730
Assuming youve leveled strength, Pizza cutter is a good choice. You'll need to do a suicide run to the location in thew DLC though.

Kirkhammer is also really fun with probably the most moves in the game. You'll actually enjoy packs of 12 or more guys coming at you with the thing/
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>>126659389
damn. shame I missed it, but at least you got him
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>>126660034
you can take screenshots on PS4 and either upload them to your computer via some social networking sites or via usb.
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>>126660034
50 vit/50 skl, use repeating pistol if you aren't already and keep that blt

the ps4 controller has a button for screenshots
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>>126659923
>yfw you first heard the hemwick witch spawning screamers in a depth 5 frc
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>>126660034
Oww my neck. Anyway, you should keep go for bloodtinge if you want to use 2 other weapons that work perfectly with skill, don't go on arcane, it's a waste right now. If you want to focus on skil though, get skill to 50 and get more endurance and health. It's your first run anyway, if you really want to do a focused build you want to make a new character. Or do it as i did, take my first playthrough character, level up everything until it's softcap and get every weapon and armor to try out, just in case i got to look up something.
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>those lightning niggas in Hamlet drop 20.3% bolt gems

Well shit, that's fucking lovely.
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What's the best place to farm blunt gems?
Do I just have to tough it out and grind my head against the watchers ad nauseum? They seem to give me nothing but temperings.
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>>126660553
>everything in the hamlet and Orphan is either extremely resistant to bolt or outright immune
sincerest thanks
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>first time reaching unseen village
Game just got real
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BL 84 ringing at Ebreitas at fixed great isz chalice. Help a nigga out on his mission to getting arcane radials.

Password is bbg
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What the hell is the point of the new covenants? I guess the League is like the Sunbros, but what about the other two?
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Anyone wanna help kill Martyr Logarius?

pass: wheel

I'm BL34 so keep that in mind.
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>>126660847
One gives you beast form which gives a new moveset too beast claws and the other gives you Kin form which lets you using Kos Parasite weapon
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>>126660553
>got through chalices easy as piss because of them

praise miyazaki
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>trying to beat rom on a 43 twink
>it's harder than it was in the chalice dungeon

what the fuck
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>>126660847
equip them and find out nugga
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>>126660847
>what is the point of literal beast mode and ayy lmao mode
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>>126660847
they make beast claws and kos parasite not useless and add in a new look that adds variety instead of your typical choir uniform arcane user.
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>>126660847
They aren't really covenants.
One gives you a better dodge and gives the kos parasite a moveset, the other changes the moveset of the beast claws and gives you passive beast meter buildup. They have no online interactions.
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>>126660948
I did equip them. I guess I might need the beast claws for the embrace one but the ayy seems dumb. And why are they oath runes?
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>>126660553
>nice radial bolt gems
>an okay waning bolt gem drop as well

they really made it easier for Arc builds to get started, those gems are decent enough for lower level invasions as well
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>>126660963
What is the point of human mode
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Where's a good place to get fucking blood vials?
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>>126660847
League is just an actual incentive for co-op, and gives it the same sort of personality and sense of comradery as sunbros from DaS. Valtr's sick af

Other two just hate game mechanics. It's important to remember that oaths aren't covenants. There's just two that behave sort of like barebones covenants
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>>126661268
Other two just gate mechanics*

Fuck phones man
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What level are most people who do Ludwig NG? Been thinking of rushing HMS but need the carry.
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I still dream of a game with a similar atmosphere to souls but taking place during the American civil war or something similar, somewhere during the colonization era. Imagine fantasy horror based on old native american folklore and shit, fighting wendingos in mushy forests filled with all kinds of shit that wants to kill you. The music would be something akin to the instrumentals in this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAn7pg6dkUs
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>>126661107
>ayy seems dumb

This nigga needs to get out. Now.
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Whoever just helped with Laurence, thanks dawg.
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>>126660553
Speaking of bolt and fire gems, is it better to have 2 radials and a crescent or 2 radials and a triangle for your go to bolt/fire weapons on an Arcane build?
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>>126660883
Im ringing, still there?
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>>126661687
np How long were you trying it yourself?
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>>126661545
I wish there would be an open world MMO souls like game where there are no quest lines, only some npc to talk to and all of that, only fighting and going where you please. Instead of invading, all players are in one world just like in MMO's so people can kill other people by their own will or co-operate. Not to forget guild systems and a very personalised character and item customization so people can make their name known/have a reputition like the sunbros and gravelords
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>>126661934
4-5 tries
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>>126661932
Yeah, omw. I had to resupply vials.
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>farming lower pthumerian for ritual blood 4
>have 1 after 30 minutes

i just want beast claws
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>>126661762
It doesn't really matter because you can get cold abyssals in any shape.

for fire you want two cold abyssal gems and a 27.2% gem and for bolt you want 2x cold abyssal a bolt abyssal from abhorrent beast.

atk vs open foes is probably the best secondary effect for PvP, flat elemental is good too.
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just tried invading for the first time, killed the guy after a decently long fight. I got one insight and a 1500 bloodpoints as a reward. Do you get all of another players bloodpoints when you kill them? Not sure how I feel about invading so far, seems the main purpose is to just be a dick.
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>>126662270
Would cold abyssals still be the best route for a 25arc low level build?
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there sure are alot of r1 silver sword mashers
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Newfriends everywhere
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>Twink around in Byrgenwerth
>Kill younger Madaras-Twin in three hits
>host just sits down in front of me and accepts his Death

whew.
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>>126662502
In that case you would look to aim to stack as many % gems as possible instead. I would get a 27.2% triangle and two radial 23.1% gems from the bone ash hunter in cb7jig9p
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>>126661932
Thanks a bunch, friend.
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>>126662518
Wonder when that game will actually become a thing.
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>>126662576
Was this general dead before all the newfriends (myself included) came? If so tat might be good, some of my favorite generals have been incredibly slow (mainly Witcher General).
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>bl99
>summoned via src for depth 2 shit
>the host dies to the first mob

kill me
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I dont get BB design at times. Why is it that i can buy CRF materials in the insight shop AFTER i have created a CRF dungeon? It makes no fucking sense, if I've created one dungeon i dont fucking need the materials.
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>>126662879
Thanks nigga, much appreciated
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>>126662919
Yup
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>>126662364
>bloodpoints

You get 10% of what it would cost the host to level up. This way you can determine their level if you beat them.

If you are the host and kill the invader, you get 30%.

How many blood echoes you or them carry is irrelevant.
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>>126663073
it's for the poor souls who don't have PS+ and still want to lose their sanity in chalice dungeons
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>parry boss
>attack still lands, damages me, and prevents me from landing visceral
Why is this allowed?
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Looking for help with Loran Camerabeast I'm at his fog door, pass is bbg123
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>>126663073
>if I've created one dungeon i dont fucking need the materials.
But that's fucking wrong. Why wouldn't you want to create more? And explore more? And find good farming layouts or interesting monster placements? Maybe even Guidance Rune tier 3?
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>>126663302
For sure had some similar gripes with the Maria boss fight. Just stay in close to her.
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>>126663276
oh. Makes sense.

I really want to get to the CRF dungeons but it's so much fucking work cant even be bothered...
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Before I start this new character, I need some opinions on my creepy old man hunter.

Decent?
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is it worth having 8 blt for repeating pistol?
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>>126654785
>someone reposts my oc
feels good man
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>>126663430
Because if you've created one you can search for glyphs.
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>>126663580
Dudes got a forehead for days.
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I've created a BoM build, currently bl 50. can someone point me in the direction of what kind of gems i should get? I havent invested anything in arcane btw
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>>126663639
searching glyphs is stupid. Only freshly generated dungeons are any actual allure or appeal.
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>>126663639
he means if you want to explore new dungeons and not the ones on a spreadsheet that have been raped and plundered a billion times
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>abyssal radial
>arcane scaling +65
>charge ATKs up +5.9%
>atk down -3.9%
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>>126663774
Only physical atk +, nothing else is good.
Only increase your ARC to 15 for Old Hunter's Bone.
No strength. Your other weapon will be Rakuyo since it has no STR scaling, and you will be very effective with both equipped.
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>>126661156
>>an okay waning bolt gem drop as well
do you remember where you got it? can't find anything but the radials
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>>126664356
it's in one of the areas near orphan, it's on a corpse
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https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/11636

Would be worth pushing arcane up to 20 for the gloves? Or should I just dump the rest into VIT/END.
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>>126664323
Thank you :)!
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>>126663580
Doesnt look very old.
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>>126664669
Is that Lando 20 years in the future?
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>>126664149
buckles arn't the same
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>>126664665
You might as well, then you'd be BL44 which is a good level for low level invading and co-op.
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>>126660553
Is it cursed?
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>>126665163
no. they are awesome.
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>>126663617
Yes
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>>126664985
HA I didnt see it before but now I do!
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What's the fastest way I can get the stake driver? Only reason I bought this game, really.
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Alright an hour trying to kill Orphan of Cucks on my BL40 and I've only got him down to half way once, fucking hell this nigger was hard enough at BL98 nevermind this shit. Time for a break.
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>>126665712
>not having summons do most the work
>letting from cuck you with artificial difficulty
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>>126665615
>Kill Gascoigne
>Go to Old Yharnam
>Kill Djura a.k.a. the douche shooting at you from the tower
>Buy it from messengers
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Can someone please help me kill rom password is lmao69
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>>126665712
Swing two times and when he jumps up either dash forward and u can get a free attack or dash back, u should get just enough distance from his yoyo.
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>>126665615
run straight to old yharnam, climb up djura's tower of fuck and shoot him a couple times with the pistol before he can move so he falls off.
then hunter's mark and run back for his badge
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So I can farm early +18% radials in Lower Pthumeru Watchers. Any other good spots, like for triangle gems?
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>>126666000
Don't have to Hunters mark. Just Exit to the menu and load again.

You'll still be on the tower and his badge is right there
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Do skill builds get better later on? My first playthrough was a breeze going full strength, but I seem to be struggling a bit more this time around. I knew the difficulty would be a bit higher since I can't stagger as many enemies but over all I just feel like I'm doing shit damage.
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>>126665615
steak driver*
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>Still can't beat the crow fucker in the Cathedral
He hurts man.
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Hey /bbg/, Nyarlko- here.

I'm interested in organizing a tournament, would anybody be down?
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>>126666268
What, with brackets and such?
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Rate my Hunter
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>>126666136
Just rush for the Saif. That makes things quite a bit better for a skill playthrough. Trying to farm Frenzy Dolls is a pain in the ass though because you can't stagger them like you could on a str or quality build.
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>>126666185
Keep dodging like a motherfucker and stay mid-range to bait his charged attack, then parry him.
Makes the fight trivial
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>>126666136
once you join the wonderful world of parryfishing you begin to realize how broken skill really is
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>beckoner keeps dying to easy bosses early in the fight, despite me taking 90% of the aggro

Someone should make a shoop of the Zap Brannigan "STOP DYING YOU COWARDS". That's how I feel right now.
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>>126666268
what level? my bl148 is ready.
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>>126666379
Yes.

It would be a no ban(besides lead elixir), double elim, 8 man tournament, capping at level 100.
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>>126656651
ALL of the blood ministrations are bad. They originate from eldritch shit and are groomed through the Blood Saints. It's really staggering to think how prevalent ministration was in Yharnam, it was a staple of the culture. They drank it like alcohol and had whores just for it.

What matters is will. It's only a matter of time until one turns, but one can resist for any amount of time until they give into the beastly urges. The longer you hold out, the worst the beast you become. There's plenty of hunters who turn, as for us specifically I think it has something to do with having MP's favor in the form of the hunter's mark.
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>>126666615
Sounds cool.

Best of 3?
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>>126666268
jot buscemi down, senpai
98
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>>126666407
BoM
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>>126666268
I'm in. got several BL100
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>>126666382
2/10- my honest opinion.
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I'm trying to farm cold abyssal radials from the elder at kkvk8gsj but why the hell am I seeing all these messages that are hinting towards some npc summon when I can't find any? There are a few messages trying to imply that you'll see him with "executioners", which I can only assume it's the radiance oath rune, but I can't find anything. The messages are all high rated as well.

What gives? Is there an npc summon here or not?
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>>126666749
BoM isn't as good as the Saif, imo, and that would also force you to kill the crow if you want it early, which stops you from getting the rune.

You can just kill the cleric beast, Gascan, the Vicar, and then rush to the Saif and play the rest of the game using that. That's what I did.
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>>126666724
Bo3, Bo5 later on.
And when I say no bans, I mean healing, BMA, even blue elixir is allowed.

No lead elixir is more of a gentlemen's agreement because using it just means it's time to run away for 30 seconds.
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>finally get a high rank blunt attack triangle gem
>atk down

Just end my meme already
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>>126667195
I don't think so, they're most likely referring to other players

speaking of which, want to summon me while you farm? I wouldn't mind some abyssals and I have the glyph open
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>>126667204
BoM was in reply to a skill weapon that can stagger/stun.
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>>126667237
Sounds great. You're hosting all of the matches right?

It only seems fair that all of the contestants be capped at 70% HP if healing is allowed.
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Are there any weapons that benefit from blunt/thrust gems? Most of them do mixed or regular physical damage, so it seems pointless.
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>>126667237
>bring BMA and +10 evelyn with 31% BLT gems
Nice FC :^)
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>>126667707
The problem is thrust attacks are bad in general.
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>>126667535
Ah. Well, I was talking about a weapon that could stagger them with the first R1 so that you could just R1 spam them to death quickly because of the Frenzy. I don't recall BoM doing that. What combo were you using on them?
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>>126667764
It's not an FC. It's a tournament.

>>126667561
Yes.
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>>126667819
>thrust attacks are bad
then explain how the best weapons in the game are the church pick and the reiterpallasch?
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>>126666407
>Trying to farm Frenzy Dolls is a pain in the ass though because you can't stagger them like you could on a str or quality build.
What they're easy as piss, just parry them. 50 skl viscerals kill them in one
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>>126668062
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>>126667864
>win the tournament with BMA blunderbullying
:^)
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>>126667839
Just spam R1 with the BoM. Speed increases the more you spam it which starts the stagger/stun..
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>>126635534
>kino
is she on a journey?
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>>126668239
Try it. I don't think it will work out how you think it will.
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>>126668076
That's what I do, but the parry timing is annoyingly tight too soon and you don't parry them. Too late, and they grab you anyway, despite the parry sound playing.

With a str/quality build you can just R1 them to death.
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>>126667707
>blunt
Beast Cutter (all moves)
Hunter's Axe (all moves)
Ludwig's (tricked)
Kirkhammer (tricked)
Boom hammer (all moves)
Amygdalan Arm (unsure, but untricked definitely)
Holy Moonlight Sword (all moves except first r2)

>thrust
Holy Moonlight Sword (just first r2 but it's good enough to try)
Church Pick (almost all moves)

Others don't have enough thrust attacks in their combos to bother
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First playthough here, also my first souls game, so I have no idea what I'm doing

I'm on the part right before the Wet Nurse, and I feel like my stats are a little fucked.

At level 76:
30 vit, 10 stam, 25 str, 37? skill, 9 blt, 15 arcane

I'm currently using the saw spear and I plan on stemming off to the burial blade once I have access to it. I don't mind playing through the game again to run a better build, but is this character basically beyond saving? Is the str/skill build actually that bad?
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>>126660553
thanks senpai, my bolt saif is ready for depth 4 and onward.
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>>126668323
My point is that BMA is lame for the same reason as lead elixir. It just encourages passive play or has the potential to one shot people with cannon balls.
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Going for a 30 str, 50 arc build. What weapons work best, DLC included? I'm still in the process of upping arcane (have str at 30 right now, 20 arc) so I've been relying on hunter's axe and LHB.
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>>126668405
Your stats are ok you need to get good that's all.
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>>126668405
Looks fine, get vitality and skill to 50 and get endurance to 15 or 20
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>>126668405
it's not a bad build by any means, but not exactly min-maxed like bbg's pvp demands. you could turn that into a quality skill build, 25 str, 50 skill, and then pump vitality up to one of the higher metas, either bl 98 or bl 110
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>>126668606
I don't really care.
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So how does the dimensions and dreams work? Is Yharnam not a real place? Are all the hunters from different dimensions are are normal from their perspective dimensions and not cursed or frenzied?

Also what exactly does paleblood mean?
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>>126668405
It's fine, just get 50 vit and drop 2 points into Skl.
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>>126668607
wheel
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>>126668749
Alternatively 45 vit and 17 end
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>>126668720
Read Lovecraft.
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>>126668720
Get some Lovecraft in your head.
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>>126667237
>no rules healing tournament
Sounds like Bloodletter time.
>>
Guys I just died to a boss more than once, how the fuck did they think this was good design? I mean why would they design a boss that I specifically can't kill at my skill level? Everything should be designed with my specific play style in mind.
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>>126668979
I want to see everything the game has to offer.
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>>126668981
Acquire skills
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>>126669031
Hahaha no fuck you it's time for Bloodletter dash r1s and maybe L2s

God I hate Bloodletter so fucking much
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>>126668981
i know, right? how dare the game challenge me, i know i'm good but they keep throwing blatantly broken mechanics at me like i'm supposed to adapt
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>>126669121
Bloodletter would be allowed in any tournament.
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>>126668397
Hunter's Axe isn't all blunt. Only the overhead slams
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I'm having trouble with dodging chalice Ebreitas ariel charge when she shifts into phase 2 and getting OHKO when she's around 25%. Is it even possible to evade that?
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>>126668397
You're kidding me, how is the hunter axe all blunt?
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Where to get decent bolt triangular gem outside of farming chalices? I want to get the last gemslot for saif equipped before doing the defiled and ihyll.
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do you have to make a sinister root chalice before being able to use any of them? i just made an FRC root chalice of lower loran and it's not giving me access to a sinister one.
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Are Quality builds good in PvP?
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>>126669418
you don't
get 2 bolt radials from hamlet and the bolt waning in yahargul
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>>126669321
watch out for the belly flop after she finishes swooping
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so i just ditched ludwigs for the boom hammer and i'm having a blast.
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>>126669467
yes, go 50/25 or 25/50 depending on preference and weapon.
>>
new to the game, is this a a good build that will suffice in both PVE and PVP?

Looking to use weapons mainly scaling with strength but don't wanna pass up on arcane

Vit-50
End-20
Str-40
Sk-25
Bt-10
Arc-25
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>>126669571
b-b-but i got an uncanny saif.
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>>126667237
what level cap fnserious
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>>126669203
Like fuck, I just want to breeze through the game mashing R1 like you're SUPPOSED to do but broken pieces of shit like Logarius keep trying to make me learn things like parry timing and other useless shit. Fuck From and their broken shitty game.
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>>126669768
it's more fun to play the game blind, but what you have will allow you to use almost every weapon and you'll get some fun arcane stuff you can use. maybe bump down the arcane to 20 and use it elsewhere.
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>>126669867
bl100
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>>126669768
yes that is fine
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>>126669805
you fucked up nigga
get the nourishing triangle in the poison area under iosefka's
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Right now I'm level 97, with stats
V: 50
E: 12
ST: 10
SK: 50
BT: 10
AR: 15

2 Decides where my last point goes, or if I should buff him further. PvP
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>>126669767
I want to do Arc 25 Skill 25 and Strength 35,I plan to use tonitrus and HMS.
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>>126669946
sign me up bb its dris
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>>126669889
thanks, i go in blind to the area layouts and boss strategies but don't wanna make a shitty build so i take the time to learn about the stats beforehand
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>>126668720
Every place is real. The dreams and nightmares are different planes of reality that humans can sometimes access with their minds through a dream.
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>>126669953
is pvp most active at 100 or 120?
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>>126669718
>blast

I get it
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>>126670218
in the lategame areas most people are 120
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>>126670218
100 is more active in my experience, though you'll be invading mostly 120s you can get a larger range hosting since a lot of people stop at 100 or bellow and matchmaking tries to get you pretty close to your level beyond the set range
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>>126668405
Thanks guys. Another follow up question to this specific build, is it too late to spec into skill-only or skill/arcane weapons?
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>>126668720
Yes.
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I don't understand glyphs. I'm trying to get arcane radials from cb7jig9p and I've made an Isz fetid root already and have no idea how to actually get to the glyph I want. I tried punching it in the glyph search but it says "you don't meet the requirements"

I don't want to farm these shitty chalices anymore, for the love of god someone help
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>>126670530
you can be 25str/50skl which is optimal for something like the saw spear or church pick, and to a lesser extent the BB and Saif
Getting 50 skill then as close to 50 vit as you can depending on your preferred stopping point is key
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If you create a depth 5 root chalice (any out of the 4 types but Isz is the cheapest to open) with all three additional rites then you can access all the depth 5 root chalices that you have obtained via the glyph search function.
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>>126670623
you need to make a cursed dungeon
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Is the game still active with christmas casuals? Do I still have time to make an Eileen The Crow twink cosplay (assuming I could get one in about a day or two).
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>>126670845
So I need to do R and C next.

This roughly translates to more farming. Fucking wonderful.
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>>126668981
wow dude, you are totally in my mind. I mean clearly if I'm dying its the games fault and not my lack of knowing how to adapt. Its honestly just a broken fight, completely unfair nothing I could do. like wow, just wow
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Holy shit this game memed me so good.
I was farming for sage hair, on lower loran layer 2.
I need 6 for an offering, and 5/7 runs I got sage hair.
Now 15 runs later I've only been getting shitty gems and quicksilvers. Jesus why did i think this would be easy
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>>126670976
>Eileen twink

Would be nice if we ended up invading the same player
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>>126671043
You were just suppose to make one with all 3 FRC rites. You fucked up.
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>>126671043
>he made JUST an F dungeon
lmao
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Anyone willing to help with Cursed Hotdog?
>BL 62
>Glyph WMA2
>Pthumeru Depth 4
>Password: bbg
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>>126649147

>blood echoes retrieved
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>>126671043
You can create one root chalice with all three rites the same time. You only need to create one CRF and that is enough.
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>>126663068
What the fuck
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So are there beasts and monsters in the Waking World? Or is that just in the dreams and nightmares?
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>>126671317
>>126671213
You can do all three in one?
Welp. I'm going to lie down instead.
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>>126663068
How does that even happen?
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Anyone want to give me a hand with Maria?

I'm BL 73 and at the Fog Gate.


Password will be bbgmaria
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>>126670218
100. Most people finish the game at around level 80, and you can invade down to level 82. A lot of people go to 120 as well, but at level 100 they can invade you as well. So 100 really gives you the most range of those two.

Most people here stop at 98 though. It lets them invade down to level 80 and avoid level 150s.
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>>126671385
you wouldn't believe some of the shit I've seen
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>>126669953
Ok well since nobody gives a shit, should I put points into Vit or End?
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Is it even worth using the non-transformed Saif's moves? They seem like trash.
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>>126671737
you don't need to level anything m8 you're fine

get end if you want
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>BL140 with 99 ARC
>mfw just landed a blacksky eye for 450 against some BL100 maria shitter
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I've never done password co-op.

So if I'm reading this right, a low-level can summon someone 100+ to smash bosses for them, so long as they use the password feature?
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>>126671965
Yes and no

You can summon someone that is an extremely high level, but their stats will change to make them match your level.
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>>126671754
They have hyper armour and decent modifiers. Plus both running attacks are great and the uncharged r2 is pretty nice
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>>126671754
>non-transformed Saif's moves
>trash

It's amazing, what are you talking about
Literally the perfect moveset for catching dodges and rolls as well as dealing with multiple niggas at once with hyperarmor out the ass to boot
Saif is a meme weapon for a reason, it's an all round great weapon
>>
FIRST 7 RUNS GET 5 SAGE HAIR

NEXT 29 RUNS GET SHITTY GEMS

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT
>>
Where should I invade if I want to wreck low level scrubs? Old Yarhnam is the best I've found.
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>>126671754
it's good as fuck
saif is meme tier because the untricked has mad hyper armor and the tricked has mad functional range+speed
plus the space control is crazy with the untrick>tricked l1 and the tricked r1
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>>126671754
it lets you do a transformed attack that closes gaps. The slower wide slices can catch people zipping around you.
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>>126672267
this is korea
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>>126671160
Nice job, Crowsteel.
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>>126672058
Oh, well, that's a bummer. So you can't low-level rush a boss for a weapon unless you actually know how to beat the boss then.
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>>126672267
what are you even farming?
>>
>>126672292
forest and byrgenwerth
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>>126672495
Not really true either.

If the person you summon uses extremely good gems they will still have more power than you.

Also being able to use end game weapons as a low level, so example you could use the Pizza Cutter on Gas-coin and just stun lock him to death
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>>126672495
bloodborne twinking takes some work, as it should be
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>>126672495
Are you trying to get MLGS?
Just summon Valtr in the cathedral, and then stay behind ludwig.
Pretty much all bosses become trivial as soon as you summon, one guy distracts and one beats the shit out of it
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New thread when?
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>>126672565
Sages hair
i just bought full vials and bullets with the amount of echoes i had
im about to kill myself
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>>126671584
P-Please send help
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>>126672796
go to isz layer 3 for 6 of them you fucking goof
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>>126672796
>he doesn't know about the chalice dungeon speedrun guide.
you never have to farm jack shit.
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>>126672796
Why are you farming sages hair? You get 6 from a chest in layer 3 Isz. Why did you not go there? Why does nobody follow the fucking chalice speedrun guide then complain about the tedium of grinding x

REee
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>>126672812
on my way
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>>126672938
Thank you
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>>126672659
Yeah. I ran right for the door, but I could do a League run if he is better than Henriett.
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>>126672914
it's because it's in the OP
only fucking nerds look there
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fishing hamlet is really not a good area.
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Keep getting one hit by the old hunter aoe, I can't seem to react in time. Wouldn't be a problem if it didn't autokill
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>>126673195
it's comfy.
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>Twink invade the same guy twice in a row
Oh man he must be foaming at the mouth
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>>126673195
i like it
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>>126672976
sorry about that, hope you got her
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>>126673296
>delete his cooperator
>switch to a lower level weapon, bow and do muh honourable pvp
>pretty much let him win
It's what I do if I invade the same dude too many times
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>>126672852
>>126672907
>>126672914
What the fuck everything I looked up said you needed to farm.
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>>126673415
... She was like 2 hits from dieing and she starts doing her 10 hit combo on me...
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Can someone help me kill gatling gun bro? Im way underleveled and just want to get some of the OH weapons early, before I finish my build. I'm just outside the cave. Pass is bbggg
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>>126673514
i rang again
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>>126673487
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkznHPuGY4

For future reference. This is the problem with having an op full of pastebins. Neat but even less people look at them
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>>126673487
what did you look up?
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>>126672979
Henriett has fucking down syndrome and does 0 damage. Just summon Valtr, hes right by the gate where the crows and witch are.

He has the saw, and will literally just walk up to ludwig and rip him to pieces so you can walk behind him and beat his ass. Just constantly stay behind ludwig
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>>126673564
Thanks, I rang too
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>>126673668
got 1 more coming hold up
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>>126673647
he really does
Will do that then. Thanks friend. :^)
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>>126673720
Yeah, guessed as much when you sat down.

Thanks for the help
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>Using a call beyond for forest twinking
I love this, shitters have no idea how to dodge it and get a full blast to the face every time.
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>>126673427
>pitying co-op goobers
they're literally asking for it every time they ring that bell famili
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>>126673592
>>126673639
God damnit wow. Thanks.
I just looked up bloodborne sage hair on youtube and they were all farming guides.

I didnt have the Isz chalice until recently so I was ignoring everything in that said go to Isz
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>>126673982
>not looking at bbg's op.
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>>126673757
she
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so with 25/50 str/skl one heavy abyssal and two 27.2% is better than 3x 27.2% right?
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>>126674317
>25str/50skl
>increase str scaling
???
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>>126673827
woohoo
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>>126674390
well looking at this calculator it's showing me that it would actually increase damage on my saw spear. I just realized I didn't specify what weapon in first post
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>>126673720
Thanks man, that went great.

Loved watching her get knocked around by all those ranged attacks
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>>126674556

Loli Gagger here, GG.
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>>126674141
The OP sucks. Pastebins inside of pastebins is retarded.
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>>126674556
no problem, she's a fun boss
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>>126674317
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Klz0V7xCDyfbuGMoi0zGNAyL_VT5TUS6WiUme_uB9Rg/edit?usp=sharing

should probably slap this onto the OP as well
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You guys figure this would be a good build for forest twinking? Beast mode seems perfect for the forest.
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