Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

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First for couples doing lewd things together!

Daily reminder that Koreans are shitters and you shouldn't trust them

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iOBT sNEVER

>>126594405
first for no erp anime girl circlejerking and actually talk about the game

>>126594810
>>126594779
You're too late my friend.

Can we settle on the guild name already? BakaDesuSenpai is the msot popular, but quite a few people say they hate it, so we should pick something else.

>>126594976
Honest and Hardworking or Futureproof

Please IOBT, I know you missed Christmas but come home soon.

I miss you

>>126594976
Honest Hardworking and Future Proof should really be the only contenders.

>>126594976
No matter what name someone gives, another will just say he doesnt like it.

>>126594976
le forehead

>>126594976
lewd

>>126594976
Bacary Yes
No Kissing Allowed
Kiss Police
ㅋ ㅋ ㅋ ㅋ

>>126595318
KKK?

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Maybe IMC will say "Happy New Year!" and then "As something to look forward to, here is the date for the international open beta!"

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It's okay, I never wanted your stupid points anyway

>>126595370
and the date is: 31/12/2017
would you still be happy? shut up and enjoy your shitty kOBT goy.

I was thinking of letting the people who pitch 500k or more silver for guild creation to vote for guild name. Do you people have anything against that?

Are squires good now? I haven't checked since 2nd cbt.

>>126596024
Very few people will be able to part with silver like that. Especially because the only means is to use a crafting class's shop or the market. Neither of which is particularly reliable.

Not only that, but to generate 500k silver you need to rely on a nerfed Legwyn event, dungeons (specifically the 130 one, which is great for silver and all but it's long as sin) and trying to play the market with 30% tax and some really special undercutting and then the delay on when you actually claim the silver.

500k to vote is a tad steep

>>126596024
How to pass along 500k senpai

Is Oracle still mediocre/useless as hell?

I really want that costume but wasting rank 6 for it is a big cost.

>>126596623
>put trash item in market for 715k
>you guys buy it from me
>2 days later I pick up 500k

It's suffering, but it's the long way. 500k isn't so steep, most people who save will have that much by the time I actually get rank7.

One thing is for certain: It's impossible to expect me to pay up 10m for the guild, and another 5k for the tower. I simply won't have that dosh.

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>>126596870
>715k

I don't even have 100k

>>126597036
Same, how are we supposed to make any money with the trash market rates along with koreans undercutting everything into oblivion?

>>126596870
>500k isn't so steep
No, it is steep because they're forced to do absolutely nothing in terms of spending silver on themselves. 715k would have been reasonable if people all made it to Legwyn before the big wave of Koreans did.

It's not that you're expected to pay it all, it's just that 715k is a lot to expect to be able to vote. I could donate that right now without too big of a loss, but that's only because I spent 13 hours farming drakes as an experiment

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Late to the archer party here, first time playing one. But let me see if I understand this.
I get a damage bonus to enemies that everyone else already kills instantly, and a 50% damage penalty to everything I actually need to fight?

This is being changed in the future, right?

>>126594405
Discord:
https://discord.gg/0heefDqe35w4ZLQF

>>126597338
They recently decreased the penalty.
Also think of archer as a weak on the start, strong in the endgame class.

>>126597356
It's already updated.

>>126597259
If people don't pay up that much each, we won't make it. Because there's not that many people. 500k x20 is just for guild creation alone.

>>126597259
Sounds like you guys aren't going to be able to afford a guild for a long time. Might as well just join some gook and deal with having a name in runes.

>>126597404
It's still a steep expense that you're not gonna be able to see people part with so casually until way after 220 at this rate. If this was iCBT2, it wouldn't be an issue. You would sell 100 swords from Roxona Market and that would give you 10m. But there is no reliable income with gimped vendor prices, an awful tax on the market complete with only listing one type of item at a time, 50% tax on crafting classes and Legwyn being gimped on top of a huge competition whenever the crystal spawns.

And that's assuming 230+ maps give decent silver. If they're barren in mob density (like that one 230 map on Orsha's side with mages at the entrance seems to be) the silver rate would be pretty bad.

>>126597591
Affording a guild would be around level 240-250 in an optimistic view, and that'd rely on vendor prices finally reaching close to iCBT2 level 120 prices.

How much money can you make with Legwyn Event now?

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We should just settle a guild name with some strawpolls or something, shouldn't we?

You know it will be much easier to form a guild in iOBT. Assuming all the people from that Kateen meetup is the least who want to join, you get ten million silver in no time.
Then it's just down to trading talt for sexual favors to increase the slots, right?

>>126597691
Also the Demon Prison silver income is a bit less than it was in iCBT2. I have no idea why they decided to nerf every mob's silver drop but they definitely did. Doesn't help that you can't just get a ton of silver by vendoring their recipes now

I guess everyone's goal on kobt is to get silvers.
If only everyone wasnt quitting I would be more motivated

>>126597691
>50% tax on crafting classes
I must have overlooked that one, what's that about?

>>126594405
Why did you put that retarded shit into op? Does random clueless gook opinion matter so much?

>>126598040
Everyone whom?

>>126598062
It's true, at the very least for Squires. There is a 50% tax on repairing and weapon maintenance that I assume applies to Gem Roasting for alchemist. That said, Alchemist can jew pretty hard with SP potions so that may very well be the best class for silver (again)

>>126598161
they're so fucking bad at this game

literally only playing to get jewed by nexon

>>126597907
People not playing in kOBT will vote though.

>>126594976
if 5 - fuckface

>>126598197
Jesus, I don't know if I can play this game if they bring this retarded market system into iCBT.

>>126597907
>strawpoll
>9/10 of the people not playing
>shitposters and angryposters

>>126594976
Gookikes

>>126596441
What? You literally get that much by just leveling to r5.

>>126598375
>>126598529
Is the korean guild name not transferring over when everyone quits for the english version?

>>126598496
It's obvious that they want to stall people everywhere they can. There's no other reason why mob exp would be so low that you hardly notice when you kill a boss, or why it takes a handful of Harugal to dent your exp bar even at the start of Demon Prison's grind when they're going to punch you for a chunk of HP because of the damage penalty.

>>126598628
If you get 715k silver without hindering yourself whatsoever, then congrats

reminder that you can buy silver from the kepa farmers now
$1 for 100k :^)

>>126598702
Well, I was talking 500 and not 715. Sure, I'd rather spend the money on arde, but this is r5 we're talking about.

I remember making a million just grinding demon prison on x6, won't we be getting more (potentially six times as much) if we have to spend more time grinding now?

Unless the money rates are lowered as well, we're talking 5-6 million silver just from our demon sugar daddies, and people who actually go for r7 should expect to get even more, so really, it's either two guys giving away all their money to start a guild or a bunch of people sacrificing one good item.

Maybe I'm just wrong, though. I'm expecting 6 times as much DP grind with roughly the same money rates and 10mil to start a guild, if that's not the case I suppose my entire post might as well go into the trash.

>>126599191
Silver gains are lower, but nowhere near 1/6 of iCBT2 gains. You are not incorrect.

>people are expecting to reach rank 7 on kOBT with the shitty jewy Nexon in charge
>even thinking of making a guild there
>in a game that Koreans hate and will die in a couple months

>>126597338
Later in the game there are actually flying mobs that have tons of HP.
We're not useless with that +100% anti-flying enemy. And half the bosses are like flying.

>>126598040
I'm not quitting senpai.
The rates actually feels "alright" during this questing phase.

Post some wacky stories about your adventures with gook friends. Like that guy who was stuck in 50 dungeon for 2 hours.

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>>126597882
Please

>>126599191
>Unless the money rates are lowered as well
>>126598016
Yes, every single mob gives less silver, every single mob gives less exp. Even boss silver is considerably less. Every single mob has less value just because the recipes no longer sell for anything worth talking about.

I said it earlier for a reason; the best income of silver is the 130 dungeon, which you can run twice a day and it's long as sin, and playing the market.

Yes you will make silver from Demon Prison, no it's nowhere near what you think it'll be. Part of what made the income good in iCBT2 was that you'd get a decent amount from the numerous recipes that'd drop as well as mob silver. Both of those were gutted.

If you are talking the road to rank 5 with iCBT2 rates, you most definitely are wrong. You can get 500k by level 90, but you'd better not have teleported or repaired at all during the start of the beta when repair fees jewed you as soon as you reached Tenet Chapel. Similarly, you'd better not have upgraded your weapon at any point come 120 because that alone would kill a chunk of your silver.

I hit level 103 with 600k, then spent 300k of that on an Arde Dagger before people realized it was actually worth something and charged more. I made a total of 756,000 silver from my experiment seeing how many Black Drakes and Dimmers I'd need to kill to go from 130 to 131 (it was a lot of drakes, it did give me 12 Drake Films back when they sold for 90k each, though. Please notice the tax. Please)

>>126599896
Unchanged, just heavily camped

>>126599949
This sounds deeply depressing.
>buy premium platinum for increased exp and drops

How do you complete this quest http://www.tosbase.com/database/quests/19820/ ? I fail every time.

>>126600624
Attack the ivy that's wrapped around the statue, then keep the mobs away from it so they don't hit the statue while trying to hit you

>>126600705
Thanks.

Good news, guys. It's true you can't just sell 100 swords to afford the guild, but you can buy one by selling 960 swords to the vendor

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>>126601328
pls no

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Can you cook onions in this game?

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>>126601690
Took me a moment to recognize that back

>>126601690
It's okay, farming 4.8k Moya Fragments is pretty easy

>>126599949

>if we nerf everything, people will play our game longer

simple, yet so wrong

>>126594405
>Gesti now has a large aoe attack that takes away 3/4 my health, spammable and one second cast time

this is not ok

TFW made it to legwyn early and now comfortably have 4m after spending on needs like attributes and arde

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>136 finally
>used most of the cards from Main Chamber

>>126602260
How many did you use? You have 159 7 cards so if you used 15 you will have 144 left

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>>126601957
Blue a best, simply the best.

>>126602307
Unless they added more, there are 149 total

>>126602307
More than that. Everything from Main Chamber up to the first quest in Sanctuary I used. Only managed to get 131 and 70% in from dungeon runs over the past few days due to crashes.

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>>126602317
Personally, i prefer red but they are all pretty great

>>126602419
Yup correct, my bad miscalc

>>126602073
>not voluntarily submitting to gesti
>every time

>>126602317
>>126602656
>Twintail fans

Mah niggas. Red really is best, though. Who cares it's actually a boy?

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>>126602868
>implying that doesn't make it even better

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>>126602969
Boys make the best girls

body swap and gender are my favorite sad panda tags

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>>126603381
Mine too.

>>126595542
finally got it too
is this just a visual bug or do you really not gain any more TP?

>>126604095
You really don't gain any. I'm still at 0

>>126604152
sasuga

>>126604095
It's a known error according to a recent FAQ. The bottom of this article contains a list of known errors, not gaining any TP even when less than 5 TP is one of them.

http://tos.nexon.com/community/tosnotice/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=55

should I sell all my talts for money? in 12 years when we finally get rank 7 and a guild we can just buy them from market.

>>126604095
>>126604152
>>126604270

To fix it, make a new char, seems that the TP timer restarts

>>126604562
thanks for the tip

>174 Alchemist
welp, looks like R6 is sooner than I thought

>>126605151
you're an alche now?

>>126605609
nah, some gook that I party with frequently is

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IMC should give us elf ears, right?

>>126605963
How did he get past 140-167?

>>126606008
Ten bucks its an unlockable starter race for ten bucks

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>no axes
>no 2H hammers
>no lances
>no halberds
>no bec de corbins
>no poleaxes
>no billhooks
>no brandistocks
>no voulges
>no flails

Why can't IMC do weapon variety?

>>126606730
harder to balance, poor management can make combat all over the place (more than they are now), laziness

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>>126606730
soon

>>126606224
countless hours of grinding, so he says
even I don't go that hard

>>126594405
This image is missing Krivis.

>>126606730
>axes is 25% blunt 25% slash
>poleaxes 25% pierce 25% blunt
>halberds 25% pierce 25% slash
Yay or nay?

>>126607072
why bother when you can just switch weapons

>>126607004
How many people do you think have abused emotes to fuck Powerless Security Guard in the ass?

Oh hey, Nuaele isn't a joke of a fight anymore. Now she can one shot Hauberk

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iOBT soon

>>126607491
y-yeah, soon

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Who wants to rush 130 dungeon?

Who wants to do a level 90 dungeon full run? :)

PM Nanibatsu

>>126599742
I partied with an Archer 3 Ranger 1 at level 100 with 110+ SPR. Gook.
He gets one shotted and a tap by those spiral arrow high vubbe archers...

>>126602073
>He has no CON
Serves you right Max DPS memer.

>>126608332
I have 10 con you faggot, also screwing 1 con people with these kind of bullshit isn't acceptable either

>>126608408
Did you check if you can jump rope the Gesti AOE like a Shadowgaler's?
Also, doesn't that aoe have a max range as well?
Kinda forgot.

>>126607896
At what point do you rush 130?

>>126607072
An ok compromise specially if there are skills that work only with them.
May need to reduce the bonus a bit more to 20% as that is the price of having a dps increase on 2/3 of the monsters in the game.

>>126608474

When u're 150+

>>126608470
it has a very large range and I've tried jumping, didn't work

>>126608692
But how do you get to 150+

>>126607205
I just want different bonus/mechanics for different weapons

>>126600328
the event was mentioned in patch notes a while ago, they said the amount of silver dropped was "adjusted"
are you sure it's the same?

>>126608983

By eating all lvl 7 cards.

>>126609235
I do the event often, it's definitely nerfed. About 60-120k now (on average, in a 3 man party with comp)

>>126596759

Yep, you better choose 4 strong class before that and hope fortune teller will be good.

>>126608995
>Cleric
>4 stronk classes

>>126607019
Can you hook me up with his name or something, or yours. Need awakes

>>126594405
>Sadhu isn't even considered

Guys it's not that hard to get silver. Spend some time getting the mats to craft equips that people need, that's easy money. Just leveling and questing gives you a ton, if you weren't retarded and repaired all your gear constantly before they nerfed repair costs, or pump 500k into a single skill when you virtually have 0 means of keeping up with those costs.

Aukuras should be Heal over time totem instead.

>>126611204
Guys it's not that hard to get silver.
Who said otherwise?

>>126594405
This so fucking much
you can't progress after 140 because the only way to level is with a tank and a healer, fucking game

and just like rag heaelrs are gonan keep getting more important

>>126611354
It triggers monster's aggro and has fire resistance attribute. Nobody uses it for hp regen.

>>126612076
Which is why Krivis falls behind in Healer role. Cleric gets more heal tiles, Priest gets Mass Heal, what does Krivis get for healing?

>>126612326
Who said Krivis is Healing class?

You don't need tanks they said

>>126594405
>oracle
explain?

>>126613174
They switch genders.

Necroventer up, channel 2 orb Imps area

>>126607072
Would be better if they get a different mechanic overall.

Axes get a huge cleave AoE, but slash only and slow as fuck swings.
2H Hammers gives a huge aoe and clerics using it get aoe stun from their attribute. Swing time suffers even harder.
Halberd deal piercing damage when using z, slashing when using c. Benefit from Spear only buffs.
Bec de Cobins same as halberd but Strike.
Flail has a small foward aoe but can hit targets behind you.


etc

>>126613230
Will I get to keep my willy?

>>126614636
Oh god. I want this. Send this to Staff_John stat!

>>126614645
Going all tranny on us?

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>>126614636
>2H Hammers gives a huge aoe
So 2h Hammer with AoE ratio like 5 hammer and since it's 2h, the Mattk is increased too? You will make every other class cry.

>>126615713
Could have stuff for other classes too, they announced they would make a offhand that gave the ability to create tornadoes that was based off of MATK, but I didn't see any of that in the iCBT.

In the end there is a lot of room to make cool stuff with items, but I have this weird feeling we won't ever get that kind of stuff since most items currently are amazingly boring.

>>126616526
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbuTT48rD3Y

Found it, 0:40

>>126616526
There was talk about some staves and books when they first datamined r7 jobs.

What's the price for a Korean account? Is there any further bullshit involved like in BDO with third party patches and shit just so I can actually play the game?

is it gud?

Anyone got a Templeshooter card from TS earlier?

>>126617638
Don't fall for the pay2obt meme

>>126594976
>there are people that are actually ok with this nigger speak guild name

Fucking awful

>>126617945
>there are people that aren't okay with 4chan culture yet continue to browse this site
Fucking fuck off maybe???????

>>126617945
I don't care what you guys call it

>>126618002
Only people that like that retarded shit are fucking retards.

>>126618075
Since when is japanese considered "nigger speak for fucking retards"? On 4chan, a site made by weebs, for weebs, of all places??
Are you, by chance, one of those "newfriends" I keep hearing about???

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>>126617851
elaborate

>>126618208
It is filtered nigger speak, I know what it is.

>>126618705
You think it's nigger speak, yet it is not. You simply think it's connected.
We're not trying to make sm.htb.hfa.m our guild name, yet you think we are, which is the reason as to why you're so against it.
BakaDesuSenpai is not nigger speak, stop telling us it is. It's three japanese words, and the name came from a comedic situation on 4chan.

Think of it like this. Once the filter is gone, would you still be against it? Why? Because of a distant memory of events from the past?

>>126618705
what

>>126618002
>>126618208
I like these levels of """ironic""" shitposting ????

>>126618705
you roodypoo

>>126618916
Don't argue with retards, you might get aids.

angrypostin tiem?

>>126619246
Better than dramaposting.

>>126619507
No, dramaposting is cute.

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Fuck the angryposting, I'm taking over with this. Finally completed, now to pump out more /tosg/ art

>>126620283
so cool

>>126620283
What's your criteria for drawing someone?

>>126620587
be an attentionwhore

>>126620587
None ... I'm open to most things

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>>126620709
Pick next one then!

>>126620878
You mean the whole image? Or just one person?

>>126620878
anything that's not Kateen meetup pic isn't official tosg pic
>meeting up in public places
shiggydiggity

>>126620945
Would be nice to see you draw some other jobs too. Or wait, can you draw the OP pic?

>>126621004
k

>>126621290
I've so far done a fencer, rodelero, chronomancer, wugushi and sapper.
Oracle, pardoner and sorcerer if you count the lewds

>>126621652
no Squire? who drew the Fencer Squire lewd then?
also I vote Thaumaturge since they have the best outfit.

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>>126620709
>>126621971
Draw a slut this time!

>>126622165
>Draw a slut this time!
That's what he is doing all the time.

>>126622165
More lewds are always welcome

>>126621971
Sketch anon did, I'm full colour anon? Idk we need better ways to clarify us.

>>126622165
Ill put it on the list but so far I've got Hatsumi x Hiraku, a druid and a paladin on the list to go through.

>>126622246
Pretty much, so many sluts

>>126620283
You should draw something from rank 7.

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>>126622165
>>126622256
T-Thanks guys I have now acquired a double-peace sign slut fetish.

>>126621971
Also I know the fencer in that lewd. If I had drawn that he would have literally murdered me the next time I see him, as he keeps telling me. I would like to keep my life thanks.

>>126622523
this !

Plague Doc or Warlock

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>>126622523
No, draw Rank 8+
Look at that Shadowmancer outfit!

>>126622864
>literally Dimir

>>126622864
Oh god, just thinking about a cute runecaster makes my dick explode

>>126622864
Onmyoji, mimic, and shadowmancer holy shit

>>126622864
Runecaster X Shadowmancer
Runecaster X Warlock
Warlock X Shadowmancer
>>126622693
Warlock X PlagueDoc

all girls ofc

>>126623247
>all girls
Faggot.

>>126609639
Party shouldnt affect the amount dropped. Only other parties killing them before you get any hits in should affect it

That just makes me feel awful.
>Join a Korean 130 party at level 142
>Bunch of 130s and then they invite a 153 Wugushi
>The 130s get basically nothing for exp because of the Wugushi while I still get full exp

>>126623341
well ok, one of the girls can have a feminine penis

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>at the Necroventer boss fight
>spams long range attacks that always hit because of lag
>can't get close
>when I do those stupid silence totems stop my attacks
>die
How the fuck do you beat this guy?

>>126612326
Krivis is a support class. It buffs the damage people do rather than heal more

>>126624000
Be moving away from his front way before it goes off, you'll dodge because he'll still try to throw the attack to where you left even though you moved long ago. I mean several seconds before he even starts the animation, so basically always dance around him (but don't hug his back or it'll still hit you)

Alternatively, I heard WTFast works. I haven't tried using it with ToS yet but if it does that'd probably solve your problems

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>>126624017
>Krivis is a support class

>>126625149
>int scaling
>limited hits
>maximum 3 targets at once

Compared to
>no scaling
>unlimited hits
>works with aoe ration

>>126625149
>still posting this retarded comparison

fucking kill yourself already

>>126625256
>>126625589
>works with aoe ration
>maximum 3 targets at once
And here is ignorant zaibas defence force.

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>>126620283
Draw a luchador suplexing a mounted cataphract.

>>126594405
Is that image implying rodelero is more that a glorified paperweight?
What the fuck did they get to mitigate magic damage?

Let's be honest, Zaibas is still one of the strongest skill in the game.

>>126625787
So is Cure.

>>126625787
Don't forget about Earthquake!

>>126625716
>ignores the biggest point of unlimited hits during duration
>thinks adding aoe ratio to a krivis will help in any way when the lightning will only strike 18 times (19 with the krivis monster gem, or 20 with both and divine might) max regardless of how many targets there are

>ignorant
Good word, ill use it too. I bet you play a swordsman

>>126624127
It doesn't, please stop shilling that here.

>>126625780
Slithering gives them 10 sec of Magic immunity, if that's what you're looking for.

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>still no confirmation on Miko

Shit. It might actually be a costume.

>>126625980
>Shilling
Yeah, that's definitely what I'm doing. I'm going off what three other people have told me ingame, that is all. I even just said "I haven't tried using it"

>>126625787
Its strong but its balanced due to its long cooldown and limited number of lightning strikes. Anyone who still complains about it is just mentally challenged.

>>126626068
They're probably adding them in gradually but focusing on 1 tree at a time, that's why wizard already has all classes in, with mimic being the hidden class.

>>126625968
>what are skills that reduce aoe defence
>thinks number of hits matter with unlimited damage on 1 hit
>said nothing about having 2 charges to cast
ignorant

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>>126626068
>might actually be a costume

IT SURE AS HELL BETTER NOT BE

Id be extremely pleased if it turns into one of those hidden classes

>>126626229
I bet you didnt even know that frost cloud ticks 3 times faster than zaibus does, too.

Ignoramus

>>126626229
>unlimited damage on 1 hit

just stop embarassing yourself

>>126626363
idk what you fags are arguing about but is it really fair to compare a r2 skill with a r6 skill?

>He actually removed and blocked me
Take care, since I know you'll read this. Stick to people you'll trust

>>126626489
Hes blatantly shit posting and im just laughing while giving (You)'s

>>126626513
You need to tell us who it was or there'll be just shitposting caused by speculation. Who was it?

Your special one?
Member of a clique?
Angryposter?
Nemsey?

>>126626235
I think Lama is the hidden class. A dude posted a bunch of datamining and he posted Shinobi, Lama, Megen and Mimic as hidden.

>>126626489
the point is that the retard actually thinks zaibas is stronger

but he's a clueless fuck who saw a duel with people with exploited characters and tries to argue about it

>>126625743
>Luchador
>No Masks

>>126626667
The only confirmed hidden so far are Shinobi and That archer one.

>>126626667
If it's just costume, it's not really any proof. Maybe if it's the age of the leak, from before monetization plans.

>>126626513
adelaide?

>>126626661
Just someone, there is no need for shitposting speculation. It was only posted here because he'd definitely see it.

>>126626363
I know almost everything at this point, thats why I have a right to say what I said, you on the other hand quickly dropped the subject of "zaibas is actually not that good guise I swear", my ignorant friend.
>>126626421
Tell us then when zaibas base damage stops scaling with int.

Dramaposting time?

>>126626751
Murmillo, Plague Doctor and Luchador will all be big guys.

>>126626765
Pied Piper or Hackapell?

>>126626820
Where did i say zaibas wasnt good you gigantic retard?

Im saying you're retarded. Plain and simple.

>>126626808
>just someone
Stop this, there is approximately 10 minutes left until it goes wild.
You don't have to specify names, but at least tell us what did he do to betray you (steal your item, steal your heart, etc), and why did you let him get so far.

>>126626913
Hackapell, but it may or may not be hidden. It's not available in game yet.

>>126626913
Pied Piper
Mimic was also discussed as a hidden class a while ago I believe

>>126626808
please be adelaide...

>>126626513
Who the fuck are you?

>>126626913
Hacka i think

>>126626902
Oh, there was no Murmillo in the recent leak, right?

>>126626820
retard

>>126626513
Okay Nasra.

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>>126626513
Azebu
Shieruu
Nasra
Cattly
Veena
LoliPantsu
Karga
Tuskuru
Tuppin
Tan
Kiblaster
Flamaye
Bless
Minako
Mambanegra
noJutsu
Miley
Ohayou
Himekaidou
Windfell
Nuko
Albrechtsberger
Faith
John
ZR
TBA
Zielregen
Mia
Pios
Dead_game
Ayano
Shin
Leyris
Dandy
Bugtraitor
Vilka
Lunar

I know it's one of you, you'll regret hurting my friend.

>>126626801
>>126627009
>>>/d2g/

>>126627279
What?

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>>126627279
>I'm not there
Nice.

>>126627279
>John
OMG NO ! NOT JOHN !

>>126626089
>long cooldown

every skill in the game has these retarded cooldowns, some even without overheat

it's not like zaibas is the only skill with a 30+ second CD, and considering the strength of other skills with CD like that, it's pretty fucking strong.

>>126626681
>actually thinks zaibas is stronger
Lets try to make that rotten brain of yours work. Frost cloud lvl 20 is the skill thats unreachable, its base damage doesnt scale with int, its not affected by aoe ratio, it has 1 charge.
Zaibas lvl 20 might be actually reachable if devs introduce some gimmick weapon that adds +3 to skills, its base damage scales with int, its affected by aoe ratio, it has 2 charges.

You are the retard.

>>126627279
HA! So you just list the people on the google spreadsheet, you're pathetic. Do some real investigations Sherlock

>>126627478
John helped a lot with the FAQ, don't bully him.

>>126627516
it's okay buddy

please drop some more info on your exploited characters dueling knowlede

>>126627553
Wow, when did HoneyBingo get so lewd?

>>126626924
>>126627092
Nice arguments there kids. Now go back to your usual hobbies: cute, erp, lewd circlejerk posting. You wont have to argue with anyone there.

>>126627601
3rd circle zaibas + gem + divine might + some future lvl 280 gimmicky weapon
>exploited
Whats its like to be a complete fool?

>>126627868
we already know you played neither a krivis nor an elementalist and you just saw duels from people that had exploited characters with 5k int from the last obt

just kill yourself

>>126627930
3rd circle zaibas + gem + divine might + some future lvl 280 gimmicky weapon
>exploited
Whats its like to be a complete fool?

>>126628001
you seem to have some reading comprehension problems

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>>126625149
>>126625256
>>126625716
>>126625787
>>126625848
>>126625968
>>126626229
>>126626363
>>126626421
>>126626489
>>126626681
>>126626820
>>126627487
>>126627516
>>126627868
>>(You)

>>126628039
>3rd circle zaibas + gem + divine might + some future lvl 280 gimmicky weapon
Whats expoited about it, idiot? Answer.

>>126628148
you are literally retarded

you took that screenshot during the exploitfest in the obt and dueled people with 5k int and try to claim zaibas is broken, that's the exploited part, you have zero idea on how things actually work normally

just

kill

yourself

>>126628242
Answer the question, idiot.

>>126594405
Yo senpai where does one buy a nexon account

>>126628285
do you have any mental disabilities?

I can't tell who is actually retarded and who is just trolling.

I'm not sure which is more unrealistic, the +3 krivis skills rod or actually getting a zaibas gem.

Why isn't this memeing going on between Cure and Zaibas? A RANK ONE SKILL IS BETTER THAN A RANK TWO SKILL HOLY SHIT CALL STAFF_JOHN!

>>126628370
Here is another one: how many ranks are there and what is their total bonus for 1 maxed stat.
Answer the questions, idiot.

>>126628480
are you literally braindead? do you not understand simple english?

>people that had exploited characters with 5k int from the last obt

>>126628242
>>126628285
You're both pretty dumb either way. One of you is using "unreachable" as an argument when until you have a gimmicky 280 weapon that actually does that, level 20 Zaibas would be unreachable, too. The other is just saying "just kill yourself" like you never left school.

If you really want to have this dumb argument, do it on reachable grounds in the current state of the game

>>126628319
I bought mine from OBTGAME. I can recommend them.

Just don't screw up because their policy is that they don't do phone verifications after the account is delivered (in case your account is locked for changing IP too often or something like that).

>>126628536
That zaibas was mine with ~1.2k int.
Answer my questions now, idiot.

>>126628582
>the muh 20 zaibas is calling people kid and idiot every post
>the other guy has never left school

top kek

>>126628319
>>126628585
get nexon acc and connected email account and PW change ability for both accounts at

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/807804-%E2%98%85%E2%98%85KOREAN-NEXON-ACCOUNT-%E2%98%85%E2%98%85-%E2%98%855-99-usd%E2%98%85-%E2%98%85fast-delivery%E2%98%85-%E2%98%85best-price%E2%98%85?s=0906c69de73f5d3b07557bd9df53047a

many kOBT tosg anons got from that guy and they cant rip you off later

took like 10min to get my

>>126628319
Just get it from the skype guy I'm sure you can find it in the archive
Unlike the wholesale ones he helps you with pretty much everything you need and will help later on if there's issues

>>126628656
They're both pretty dumb, did you miss the first sentence or feel the need to defend whichever argument you think is more grounded?

>>126628735
this >>126628723

>>126628606
why are you trying to bring in completely irrelevant stuff? did you already run out of retarded things for your argument?

looking forward with the level 20 zaibas with your imaginary leel 280 rod friend

>>126618208
You can't speak Japanese, you are just an autistic memer.

is this the EQ15 guy

>>126628582
How many weapons with + skills to them now? Is lvl 17 zabias that much weaker? How reachable is lvl 20 frost cloud? Maybe that was just an example compared to how ridicilous lvl 20 frost cloud is? You call someone dumb while being dumb yoursefl.

>>126628952
Why did you respond to an argument from 3 hours ago anon

>mob15 monsters
>drop zaibas
>1 hit each

FUCKING BROKEN MAN NERF THIS SHIT

>>126628864
I presented 3 facts and asked 2 questions, you cant answer even 1, while all you said is cheap reply bait. Fuck off now, idiot.

>>126628970
If you don't want you setting up an impossible to be brought up, don't set up an impossible standard. This is a direct quote: "Frost cloud lvl 20 is the skill thats unreachable, its base damage doesnt scale with int, its not affected by aoe ratio, it has 1 charge.
Zaibas lvl 20 might be actually reachable"

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>>126628968
>>last dozen shit posts
probably

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I think you guys are missing the most important part of the zaibas vs frost cloud debate.

>>126628952
ありません、アノンーこうはい

>>126629150
i can answer all you want,you asked 2 completely irrelevant questions because you actually have zero arguments outside of your imaginary level 20 zaibas

not even mentioning how you still don't understand how zaibas is completely irrelevant compared to proper aoe skills, just shows how zero knowledge you have about the game since you got all your info from exploiting a shitty char in obt

keep embarassing yourself, you are the new EQ15 guy

Who wants to play iOBT with a Cleric>Priest2 on release?

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>shitload of skills with "scales with SPR"

Is this a trap? Zalciai, Deprotect Zone, Stone Skin, Increase MDEF, etc

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Korean server literally exploding at the moment because they just found out the closed beta testers have been lying to them that the Demon Prison was the best farming spot 130~190

people found out about the Roxxona map and found out the CBT people + Foreigners were hiding it form them, now theres a huge outroar

>>126629242
LEVEL 20 ZAIBAS MATE YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND

Oy gevalt.

About how much XP should one (1) Kepa give at level 1?

>>126629242
>Krivis can heal, use dual cure, a support like a madman
>Ele can pretend they're useful by throwing rocks at enemies

And you missed the point of the debate. We were comparing R2 skill to R6 skill.

>>126629228
Why does it matter? Dont you see who I was arguing with? That was the most simplified example of a large gap between those skills for that retard to understand.

>>126629440
not to mention like literally half of all Bokor skills

>>126629480
>frost cloud is the only r6 skill a wizard gets, let alone the only skill an ele has

Please, keep moving the goalposts. Its fun to watch

>>126629445
idiots

>>126629445
Did any of our guys know about that?

>>126629480
>use dual cure
What

>>126629114
sounds not very OP, as long as its not doing 10.000 DAMAGE ! like EQL15 does. nothing can be that OP !

>>126629480
another idiot

>>126629545
No you fucking retard.

>>126629242
1 zaibas = all that shit from ele
>prominence
>electrocute

>>126629609
>1 zaibas = all that shit from ele

>>126629114
>>126629114

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Don't forget everyone! If someone is purposely shitting up the thread, don't reply, report! Reporting is the way.

>>126629545
The point is, Zaibas is as good as best Ele skill. You could go and say "b-but Ele has more skills", that doesn't change the fact that a fucking rank 2 skill is as good as a rank 6 skill.

>>126629445
>Demon Prison 130~190
>190

>>126629564
Roxo Maps are very old news

>>126629564
Where do you think the wiz3ele3 grinded? It sure in hell wasnt demon prison.

Those anchors on the first map spawn fantastically too at the south point. Piss easy to kill for anyone, especially strike damage wielders

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>>126629552
>>126629564
>>126629721
currently people are asking IMC to ban the people that's been exploiting the mobs (since they don't move when hit, would be funny if that happpened

do you stay roxo till 180? or where do you go after

>>126629583
>>126629578
>>126629552
>>126629503
>>126629342
>>126629230
>>126628968
>>126628864
>>126628656
>>126628536
>>126628370
>>126628242
>>126628039
>>126627930
>>126627601
>>126627487
Note what these retarded shitposters have in common. their way of writing.

>>126629826
Its obvious without you adding that block of links. You're just pissing gas in the fire

>>126629817
People said you just start question at 170 idk how up to date that is with current rates

>>126629445
that place is meant to be good?
i thought it was shit, the respawn time was too long

>>126629826
are you that upset of getting btfo again?

>>126629826
only one of them is (Me)
but nice try faggot

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>>126629964
spawn is overwhelming and it drops a lot of dosh

>>126629994
I said nothing about samefagging, I said you all write the same way as any retard would. But surpisingly you failed to understand even that.

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>>126629826
here's your (You)

>>126630110
>they are ALL retarded i'm the right one!

>>126629964
Its a good place to afk and grind at the same time.

The north portal spawns every 5 or so minutes and its absolutely covered with those block dudes.

>>126630085
wtf
that`s a lot more then iCBT2

>>126630085
yeah, i knew about this place, but it took a while for them to respawn and they don't give much exp, so i just went in there occasionally if i was farming dulla, i can't see it being good if you're just sitting in there and waiting for respawn.

>>126630145
Can you learn some fucking english?

>>126630179
Isn't 5min a little too long?

>>126630236
can you stop being butthurt about being btfo?

>>126630228
well it's the best exp at the moment, do trees give more? I'm pretty sure this place gives the most exp atm

>>126626513
I didn't block you, if you're not even willing to tell me what I've done wrong, outside of"it'll be obvious if you think about it :^)", I'm not going to sit around while you treat me like a child with your stupid games.

>>126630228
Yup that's what I thought as well. I mean the spawn was good, just that it took forever to respawn once the room as cleared.

>>126630310
Glyquares give 297 exp, while trees give about 1.5k. So I'd say trees are better if glyquares take too long to respawn.

>>126630310
i'm almost certain trees would be faster since you're not spending 4/5 of your time afk'ing

>>126630260
Good for tabbing out and doing other shit though.

And i might be over exajurating the 5 minute mark. All i know is that it respawns every time the portal is opened (7 white crystals killed) and every few minutes too.

>>126630343
I literally just told you in that spoiler. But do take care

>>126629817
>>126629445
Present the evidence.

>>126630545
http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=4185&l=1692

>>126629817
>exploiting

they're... not meant to move, they have a ranged attack.
that also just makes it harder to kill them since you can't group them all up and kill them in 1 skill

>>126627279
Filtered all of these.

>>126630658
Most of the list would be glad you did, as very few namedrop themselves

>>126630641
their range is short enough for quarrel/pyro to attack without getting hit

also they found cbt players selling silver/lying on the forums and theres a line in the terms about lying to the community for personal benefit being a reason for a ban

the gooks seem upset about the game already, if they dont ban the guys for at least two weeks I think the gooks will just drop the game, kek

>>126630825
not sharing info barely counts as lying.
if that was a real reason for a ban they would never bother making hidden classes

>>126630975
no those guys made a 'guide' on a forum saying you shoudl stikck to trees till 160 since cards wont give you any exp till 164, and that theres no farming spot after demon, but they found the characters farming roxo for days

Well I'm not quite sure I understand how it's even good (except to afk farm), seems kinda slow and don't you have to refarm the white crystals to repopulate the room?

>>126631082
Babykim's first mmo?

>>126630825
>>126630975
Really, it's not hard to see for yourself. Roxona shows on your world map if you walk around the crossroads for a bit, long enough that you get close to its entrance (even if you don't actually find it) and you do that in the process of doing the quests there. Trees are great, but Roxona overtakes it before long and it's something they'd have noticed if they remembered it existed and actually went in at some point. You just need to be in range where you don't do 1 damage to the mobs there, which still means you'd grind Demon Prison for a while. Once you get competition in Roxona it really loses a lot of its value, which is probably why people didn't share it.

>>126631214
Isn't a problem if there are few people in Roxona. It's a problem if it has a decent population

>>126631082
well they're not lying
it's pretty much true, they're farming roxo for days cause it's shit :^)

>>126631293
kek first guy got banned
shitsotrm

>>126631082
>using guides written by people to boost their ego with limited knowledge
>ever
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/derfs-level-200-support-hybrid-summoner-guide-sorcerer-necromancer/117296

>>126631337
they moved there starting 134 or something and kept posting on the forums saying save all cards till 160 and never use em, also tonso f them sold gold (each about 10m)

Hopefully they frleease IOBT fast