/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

>>126525868
Fuck you Anna Vital ;_;

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How do you feel about low graphics options?

Nowadays the lowest setting often barely looks any different from maximum.
Are you comfortable completely shitting up your artistic vision in order to let toaster people play, or do you have a certain standard you won't go below?

>>126526037
Put graphics options into your game, they're fun to mess around with

>>126525868
Most of the time I give up is because I spend like years working on graphism and that don't work...

>>126524387

How do i make my game like binding of isaac so youtubers will play it forever?

what are the essentials?

>>126526037
If you create options make them as transparent as possible.
Not like Arma3's "medium to low graphic settings makes calculations on the CPU instead of the GPU" shitstain.

>>126526616

Lottery with strong visual feedback.

>>126526616
Lots of content. Isaac has >300 items. Most roguelites released that try to do something like Isaac don't go over 100. There's a reason why Isaac has so much longevity and it's just pure amount of content and work put into it.

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>>126526285
I didn't mean not having graphic options, but rather how bad you'd be willing to make your game look to accommodate people.

With some AAA games the options make fuck all difference and sometimes the performance is about the same too.

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>>126526037
>not trying to make your game look as bad as possible to ensure that toasters can run it

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>>126526949
uh the webm fucked up

>>126527028
Do you actually have graphics options?

What changes?

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>>126526037
>mfw my game's lowest graphics setting disables graphics entirely

why won't yoyo release GMS for the mac?

Hey, fellows game dev, what do you listen when you're develloping?

>>126527176
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWKfo3LDI1Q&list=PLGLJDVF26L3nIRDqeHmmsjALguBPIRgrC

>>126527176

https://youtu.be/60mLvBWOMb4

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>>126527160

This, I have a toaster laptop myself so I'd like to make it work on even the shittiest of shitty toasters.
Setting the graphics option to lowest disables all lighting and effects.

>>126527176
https://soundcloud.com/madukdnb/liquicity-yearmix-2015-mixed-by-maduk-1

>>126527357
Why does she sound like a gorilla?

>>126527357
you must no make a lot of progress

>>126527357
That hurt my brain!

>>126527254
A+ taste

>>126527462

But I do. The repetitive music quickly becomes a background hum that just drowns everything else out.

Currently I'm three and a half hours into https://youtu.be/iqT0iFZifgw and it's going great.

I'm so fucking excited right now, I got all my game mechanics working, got my story all written, and the levels all designed on paper. Now I just need to make and implement the levels, art, and music

What are the chances of something going catastrophically wrong and me giving up

>>126527763
>Now I just need to make and implement the levels, art, and music
>just

Enjoy the next 6 months of your life.

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>>126525868
>source
Why not also torque3d or Irrlicht while we are in the early 2000s? Source shouldn't be on that list until Source2 is released. I'd even rather mention something like xenko/paradox before that.

>>126527763
something will go wrong, only your resolve will say if you give up or not

I'm trying to understand how niche games get popular

Take Yume Nikki for example. How did it get such a huge cult following despite being a simple RPGMaker game? Did the developer shill it everywhere or was it released quietly? I'm guessing it being free played some role but usually when I see a free game I assume it's most likely shit

>>126528080
>post progress on blog
>some weird person randomly browses gaming blogs looking for original games
>stumbles upon Niche Project
>links it to friends and some small communities
>it eventually gets on a popular imageboard or on Reddit
>eventually, everyone who are interested in this particular kind of game know about it

As long as you post progress somewhere outside AGDG and push forward your strong points, you should be fine

>>126528080
Yume Nikki was unique, intriguing and, most importantly, a Japanese doujin game from the time before the sanctity of Japanese doujin games was defiled. It's the same as Cave Story.
It's not a form of success that you can achieve anymore.

>>126527535
Post your game then

>>126527839
aren't you only allowed to mod with source?
making actual games on the engine requires proprietary license

>>126528776
>post progress somewhere outside AGDG
How to get blacklisted 101

>>126529189
Wow, your progress won't be popular with a circlejerk of about 10 people somewhere on the internet, how terrible

I'm making an RPG and some really crazy shit goes down near the ending, but I'm terrified that people will just drop the game since there's nothing that "wows" them in the first section of the game since I want the twists to be unexpected. Should I stop worrying and just do it like that anyway?

>>126529189
>not having a twitter/tumblr to post your progress to
you are in the minority

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>>126529238
did you reply to your own "bait"? pathetic

>>126528080
>Did the developer shill it everywhere or was it released quietly?
Dude, Kikiyama is one of the most secretive devs out there, we literally know nothing about him... or her (see?)

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>first gameplay glitch
>catapults player miles
>wasn't recording
>can't recreate

>>126529341
Shouldn't you be using your mod powers for better things than calling out samefags?

>>126529263
FOLLOW YOU'RE (you are) VISION

Don't worry about plebs, the true patricians will see beyond the veil of simplicity.

>>126529691
just leave it in, once your game gets popular it'll be reproduced and used as a speedrun strat

>>126529691
Don't worry, it will eventually become a speedrun strat which will cause your game to get popular in speedrun circles.

>>126529263
I honestly think for games like this, the biggest let down is finding out about the twist
there was some unity masterpeice(tm) game that was a horror game disguised as a cheasy haunted house, seemed gay from afar but they spoiled the twist of it actually getting creepy or spooky in the steam trailer and for that reason alone I can't be arsed to play it
imagine people telling friends about your game "yh dude, I know it looks dull but trust me, just play it"
I think, if you do your crazy shit ending it will work i you keep it super ont he dl

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bottomless pits are back in

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Kinda sad that VR is championed mainly by lewdshitters and corporate shills, it opens new doors for a lot of game genres and blurs the line between movies and games.

Hope it doesn't flop and end up being yet another sex toy for neckbeards/weebs or a marketing tool for AAA studios.

>>126530027
You talking about "Spooky's House of Jumpscares"?

Anyone need a 3d modeller? Specifically hard surface, props, buildings, etc...

Temporary address: [email protected]

>>126530118
>and blurs the line between movies and games.

What the fuck does that even mean?

Games surpassed anything a movie could ever become years ago.

>>126530143
das it mane
I know it's a bit of a poor example as when the game "ramps up" and actually becomes scary, it does a piss poor job of being scary, but the premise is still applicable, keep the twist, don't spoil it, don't hit at it

>>126530220
It's one of the most boring games I have ever played, it's literally walking around rooms repeatedly 500 times until something actually happens and then it's not even that scary.

I have absolutely no idea how this game got so popular.

>>126530118
>blurs the line between movies and games
Why don't you fucks just go watch a movie if you like them so much

>>126530197
the last of us
between two souls
life is strange
until dawn
extremely limited, narrative "experiences" that are really just films with qte systems thrown in to validate selling it as a video game

>>126530286
it's free
it has waifu-bait in it
it's youtube e-celeb bait of the highest degree

there, a perfect way to make your shitty game a smash hit. all you need now is to open a patreon and let the money flow in

>>126530351
That's games going backwards not anything innovative.

>>126530197
That's subjective and I disagree, some games still try to be movies to this day but it has almost nothing to do with gameplay (qte is bad design).
>>126530328
Because I want to make games, this is a gamedev thread.

>>126530361
Too bad making shitty games is against my personal policies. I could be set for life otherwise.

>>126530375
correct, they are also bluring the line between vidya and films, which is what was asked about

>>126530450
So VR is going to blur the lines by going backwards and not innovating anything in video game medium?

Are you retarded?

>>126530480
Not him but I think you don't understand what blurring the lines means, it has nothing to do with innovation or "going backwards".

>>126530480
shitty uses of vr are
which is what the innitial post was about
hence why he put "too bad" in front of the statement
I don't agree with him, but someone wanted clarification as to what a video ame blurring the lines between a video game and a film is, so I listed a few

>>126530541
I still don't know how VR is going to make games more like movies.

>>126530586
correction, he used "kinda sad" not "too bad"*

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speaking of glitches, I got one which is re-creatable

To render a mesh with a solid color, should you switch the program, or just load a white texture and set ambient color to the color you want the mesh to be? In OpenGL.

>>126530432
show me your non-shitty games anon

I just want to make quirky waifubait characters that people make heaps of porn of.
What genre of game do I make? Please no visual novel. I want a game where the player will have to do something a lot (enter a battle, go to a shop) so they can see this very cute character and she will occasionally have subtly lewd dialogue to make the players' penis tingle so that night they think back to the game and furious search up R34.

>>126530789
If you made a massive drawer tower could you achieve instant teleportation to the top?

>>126531047
puzzle game like huniepop but with actually good waifus

>>126531047
shop-clerk sim
you go around the shop helping waifus do their shopping

quick guys, I need an idea for an item that will make you teleport a short distance

what's an item that could represent that as a piece of equipment? besides anything boring like a magic bracelet or something

>>126531282
a watch

>>126531319
It's time travel then.

>>126531282
http://www.citylab.com/tech/2013/04/7-examples-how-we-used-navigate-world-around-us/5286/
take your pick

>>126531282
It can be a skill not an item.

>>126531282
A blink dagger...

>>126531392
>>126531282
choose a sextant
but a nice one, not a shit one

>>126531282
Spatial Transducer
Distance Breaker
Grid Melder
Blink Card

just make up words lmao

>>126526724
It depends. Do you want to support a larger range of hardware? If you do it's best to have a fairly large difference between lowest and highest settings. And of course it depends on what the highest settings is like.

>>126531282
Teleportation Clothes

But they don't teleport with the character

>>126531282
measuring tape

but has a grappling hook at the end

>>126531626
love it

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started a small token game, progress for today
the idea is, any unlocked the cards from your library can be added to your deck (max 2 cards of each type), during the game you'll draw 4 cards each turn and chose which ones to play, shuffling the rest (if there're any) back into your deck. The cards are flat bonuses to you, which last until your next turn.

>>126531047
hey guy

>>126531626
do this

do it
DO IT

>>126531626
And they say idea guys are worthless. This idea alone can make a porn game sell tens of thousands of copies

>>126531906
But I'm an enginefriend
Time to reorient my career

>GML

>keyboard_check_pressed() checks for the button being pushed once
>keyboard_check() checks for the button being held down

>gamepad_button_check() checks for the button being pushed once
>gamepad_button_check_pressed() checks for the button being held down

???????

>>126532182
it just werx

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>>126532182
is this real?

>>126532373
yes, I just fixed a bug because of this right now

>>126532182
Thanks for validating my uninformed opinion about gml

>>126532182
http://docs.yoyogames.com/source/dadiospice/002_reference/mouse,%20keyboard%20and%20other%20controls/gamepad%20input/gamepad_button_check.html
http://docs.yoyogames.com/source/dadiospice/002_reference/mouse,%20keyboard%20and%20other%20controls/gamepad%20input/gamepad_button_check_pressed.html

The doc says you're wrong, though

>>126532532
And now you know why having outdated documentation is so harzadous

>>126532661
Oh, I don't doubt the doc could be wrong, I've definitely seen worse
It's just weird that they would change something that worked as it should, or that they would document it as working without anyone noticing it didn't

>>126532182
There's a ton of inconsistencies in gml. A lot of functions could be grouped a lot better with better wording.

I think the problem is once they add a function, months later everyone has written it into their game and everyone has gotten used to it.

Looking at the game maker bug tracker and the changelogs makes me not envy those in charge. The program's a goddamn behemoth to manage.

>>126532776
>The program's a goddamn behemoth to manage.
Only because of their own stupidity, it's hard to fix errors like those when people are already using them in their projects, which would mean an update would break the shit out of them, now they just have to deal with that fucked up codebase.

>>126529061

Please, I wouldn't want to associate my game with a disgusting weeb like myself.

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Anon suggested that I let the player move a bit before the camera centers on them. Did I do good?

>>126533231
isn't the player constantly centered here?

I just bought:
- Catmouth
- Vampire of the Sands
- RoR
- Xenoflaptor

Anything else? Thought about Aviary but I dont want to buy incomplete games and his tumblrforce defending the cash crab somehow annoys me.

>>126533352

Spaceman Sparkles 2

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>>126529691
>encounter gamebreaking bug that you can't recreate but know is there somewhere

Fucking HATE

>>126533231
It looks like it's locked to the player to me.

Check out http://gamasutra.com/blogs/ItayKeren/20150511/243083/Scroll_Back_The_Theory_and_Practice_of_Cameras_in_SideScrollers.php for some inspiration. In particular the Metroid and SMW stuff is interesting I think.

>>126533475
It's impossible to create bug-free software, just let it go, it's better for your mental health.

>>126529691
It'll just be funny for whatever player encounters it. Like the swing in GTA IV.

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vulkan

>>126533873
metal is a better API than vulkan will be desu

we should all just become OSX-exclusive devs

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>>126533873
Please don't remind me.

how is this for a "task complete" display which shows when the player is able to get dressed, too sarcastic? I feel like it isn't very rewarding even for a display screen

>>126534450
Kind of hard to notice.
Needs more contrast.

>>126534450
Too transparent.

>>126534450
too subtle I didn't even know you posted anything

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>>126533639
>>126533340

Tried making it a little more noticable

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>>126534450
bleh forgot the damn picture
>>126534518
>>126534529
huehue, sad part is I imagine that this criticism is friendlier than the criticism I'll get now the image is there, also I didn't bother to remove the crosshair but I can do so it's not worth considering

>>126534673
I like it better, but when the ground isn't there to provide reference it looks like the box is wobbling back and forth when the camera catches up, making it so that the camera constantly drags behind a bit while the box is in the air might help. Or if there isn't a case of there being no walls/ground to provide reference in the final game it wont be an issue.

>>126534713
seems like an autistic stanely parable

scrap your game it's literal memebait I can tell from that single screenshot

Procedurally generated gameplay.

Hey shitfucks, I won't bore you with the specifics of my idea but it's an ASCII turn-based tactical shooter, like Operation Darkness or XCOM but ASCII. I've started learning Python, but, like, once I'm done, where do I go from there?

>>126534852
Do you have anything in mind or did you just type it as part of the procgen meme?

Because if you have genuine concepts for procedurally generated gameplay I'd love to discuss/steal them.

>>126534083
>i-ill do better with vulkan!

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Is low-poly still low-poly even if it is not low-poly?

wow

>>126534713
It's pretty boring
It doesn't even sound like satire/sarcasm. It's like the most boring person in the world suddenly tried making a joke. It just makes you uncomfortable

>>126534967
How would you even generate gameplay? Gameplay is literally code.

>>126535167
It still looks like shit, yes, the same way modern "pixel" games still look like shit despite not actually using 320x240 game canvas.

>>126535167
Looks fine

>>126535306
>implying random gen is not "literally code" too

>>126535306
>How would you even generate code

>>126535306
Off the top of my head, I can think of a way to generate gameplay for the kinds of minigames you'd see on Warioware. I assume the same could be possible for genres with more depth, if you had the resources and time to think about it.

>>126535516
>>126535519
You can randomly generate data, not code.
Terrain is data. Art is data. A level is data.
Code is not data. You can treat it as data sure, but flip one bit and the entire thing changes.
In terrain, if the height is slightly bigger, at one point, its not a big difference.

>>126535306
Gameplay is not code, gameplay are the rulesets, which are transcribed into the code.

>>126535727

but you could have some gameplay "templates" which you can randomize, with randomized/generated variables affecting the gameplay

Or different functions, which can be called randomly with generated variables passed to them

how do you really memorize all those shortcuts in blender??? there are like 100000 of those and you can't tell of you need to press p or shift-p or shift-alt-p

wtf??

>inb4 practice

well how about they make a fucking toolbar for a change???

>>126535969

You have plenty of toolbars in Blender
what are you talking about

>>126536027

you don't find all the tools in these, you have to memorize shortcuts

>>126536027
That's fine at the start.

But if you're still using toolbars instead of shortcuts when you're familiar with the software, then it's a shit software.

>>126535727
Gameplay is data that we typically hardcode since the gameplay will never change in a game.

In games with fixed environments, the maps are hardcoded. In games with variable environments, maps are procedurally generated. You would just procedurally generate the gameplay by mashing templates together.

>>126536104
You do, you just need to search in the right toolbar, use the blender wiki/doc to look up where.

how to make sound effects that don't sound 8bit?
or should I just find some public domain sfx

>>126535167
lowpoly strength is to give the illusion of shading and light through textures

>>126536256

i can't find how to separate a mesh into 2 in any toolbar

>>126536348
Record your own voice.

>>126535969
you have to memorize like 15 shortcuts at best
you don't have to, you can use the searchbar for everything instead, its just faster to learn them

>>126535969
With the Maya input template I have everything I need on my left hand.
If you are complaining about keyboard shortcuts in general, you have a problem. They are a godsend, and we as a species should look into making more modifier keys before we even think about going to space.

>>126536417
and then what? audacity?

>>126535727
>code is not data

get a load of this 1xer

(car x) is a list of two elements, so it is data. It is also code for getting the first element of the list 'x'.

0x03 is a byte with the value 3, as in data. It is also the Z80 opcode for incrementing the BC register, i.e. code.

Data = Code.

>>126536560
Yeah.

You can distort it if you need something specific.

>>126536416
you have "mesh" option in the lower dock when in edit mode
alternatively you can use the search by hitting space

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>>126534779
Wasn't too sure what you meant by constantly dragging behind. Something like this?

>>126535761
>>126535935
What you'd end up is something like a platformer where jump height, speed, etc are all randomized every time, which doesn't sound that fun.

The problem is kind of analogous to guessing which item is in the box that you can't see in.
And there are infinite amount of possible items.
When you generate a random item, the only way to check if it is correct, is to ask a real person.
If you create a bot that can play test your generated games and rate them, the problem gets slightly easier.
But you still need to check an infinite number of items which might not be related to each other at all.
Some problems you can't efficiently solve even with a good evaluation function, if the search space isn't favorable.

>>126536579
Yes, you can treat is as data, but the thing is, you can't really create logical bounds for the random generator.
With terrain you can just limit height, and its derivative to get a smooth terrain. Maybe add some random bumps here and there.

>>126536678

that tool i was trying to find is berried under a 3-level menu in that mesh option you are talking about.

that's why it's good to have a toolbar of some sort like maya where you can see all the tools available to you specially when you're new and still trying to figure out things.

>>126529871
honestly this is why I make games. I want to see my game be speedrun and see what kind of glitches and shortcuts the speedrunners can discover.

>>126536905
You should put a message "I'm gay" hidden somewhere to see if anyone discovers it.

>>126536772
Yeah, that looks good.

>>126536416
P in edit mode.

>>126536859
blender have alot of modeling options so they stuffed it under 1 menu.

still, you have basic mesh tool in the left properties bar (T) i know that maya have big buttons with pictures so it makes it easier

>>126537000


>p for separate

t-thanks blender

>>126537065
seParate

>>126534827
>scrap your game it's literal memebait
>implying meme games don't print dosh

>>126537093

why not s, e, a, r or t?

>>126535298
what should I do to improve it?
More colour?

>>126536859
Blender is free, what are you expecting. Also you can edit the layout to make an interface you wish for, get addons for that or create your own shortcuts. Blender might not have the best standart interface, but it has nearly everything you need. Jesus, kids these days expect too much.

>>126536786

>something like a platformer where jump height, speed, etc are all randomized every time

eew, what a lack of imagination
you could have, for example, mini games which consist of cliking on stuff, moving around to avoid targets, with the controls/levels/possible movements generated

if you sit on a desk and brainstorm for one hour or so I'm sure you can come up with plenty of generated gameplay ideas

>ou can't really create logical bounds for the random generator
How come? how couldn't you limit mouse movement possibilities, define a set of input controls to choose from, limit interaction, etc?...

for example : if controls are mouse > chose between: 4direction, vertical, and horizontal movement > choose between avoid obstacles/click objects > define movement of said objects > define if it's sidescrolling or 1 screen, etc...

>>126537213
Yeah, go for the overly juicy screen with full of fireworks and shit

>>126537065
>Open user prefs.
>Go to input tab.
>Put "separate" in search field. (That's without the quotes)
>Put it on a post-it and stick it to your computer.

You should also remember to breathe.

>>126536607
great, thx
btw, are sounds from freesound.org completley free?
Do I need to mention the creator or something?

wahey

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made a camera nabber

>>126537312
>Blender is free, what are you expecting
what should you expect

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>>126537427
Most websites like that have a license section next to the thing you desire, like the license "creative commons 0" which means you can use stuff without mentioning source, while for example "cc-by" license needs you to put up source/mention of creator somewhere. On freesound.org you find the license on the right side, see pic related.

>>126537772
ill nab you

>>126537772
what's the inner circle for

>>126537850
thx senpai

>>126537772
looks fire senpai

>>126537313
If there is a finite number of possible games you can generate, its not really randomly generated.
What you're suggesting is to create a fixed number of games and pick a random one each time.
Maybe a combination of multiple of them, with their parameters random every time.

On the other hand, maybe there is a finite amount of possible acceptable gameplays in the search space in the first place.
Can you think of a unique gameplay that has never been invented? Kind of hard right?
But you can generate a random acceptable terrain that has never existed before easily.

Most games have a virtual environment where things happen. It can be 2D or 3D.
But a valid game is a math game where an equation is thrown at you and you need to calculate it.
A game like this doesn't even have an environment.

>>126537948
that's roughly where the camera is too centered to move anymore

>>126537427
It's Creative Commons, all sounds have a specified license on their download page.

But really freesound is free. If anyone ever gives you shit for using something of theirs they posted on there, point out to them that the website is named FREEsound.

Most of them are amateurs with cheap Zoom recorders anyway.
I would respect the people who do good recordings and have put entire libraries on there, because they are doing gods work, but not for the asshats that record their lightswitches with internal laptop microphones.

>>126537772
Have you watched this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAKwZt3aXQM

>>126538243
it's where i got the idea from, though i did it a little bit differently

>>126537772
I'm so envious of you it's eating me from the inside and I might kill myself

>>126538092

why are you implying those games will be finite? You can have a finite number of "templates" with an infinity of variation in between them. For any kind of procgen content, at one point you end up having a limited number of possibilities, you can only have pseudo-random, even when generating a landscape.

> But you can generate a random acceptable terrain that has never existed before easily.

Well yeah, generating a terrain is definitely easier than generating gameplay, but it doesn't mean that generated gameplay is not an uninteresting idea, even if it's way harder to apply!

>On the other hand, maybe there is a finite amount of possible acceptable gameplays in the search space in the first place.

When you generate a terrain you are not trying to create something which "never existed before", you are trying to mimic in a very primitive way the way IRL landscapes appear. Your landscape has to follow some rules, like : there must be some ground, the height of the mountains cannot be totally random, etc...
So you are not creating a brand new type of landscape nobody never heard of!

I have an idea:
Top down bullet hell
Horde
Class based
Rogue lite
Procedural levels
Pixel art

Where you have a shitty character weapon
But you can call in a lot of off map support like bombs, shields and cover

And that's it.
I'll handle the programming in game maker. Just need an art guy and a sound guy and a marketing guy. But after I've made the shittiest of shitty prototype.

So expect the shittiest of shitty prototypes by the end of 2015.

>>126539385
nice meme game

>>126539385
Sounds exactly like Binding of Isaac.

>>126530067

I really dig your artstyle, what kinda game is this gonna be anyway? Looks like some kinda roguelike thing

I'm trying to use a an atmospheric system in my game, basically there are instances that create air. That air checks if there is a free space near them, and if it's true, then creates another air instance. The player must be in an area with air, if they're not, then they'll slowly lose health

But it's fucking up my performance. It's not super complicated, normally, there'll be around 50-60 air instances in a room, but it still lags a lot

I'm using gamemaker btw

>>126539385
it IS the end of 2015

>>126540058
just use the same principle behind the fill tool in paint, you only need to see which tiles connect to the source.

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Why does this nigga look like he about to drop the hottest indie game of 2016?

>>126540246
I wonder how badly his game will do.

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>>126540223
And how do I make that? I'm not good at programming

>>126540165

5 days left of 2015
plenty of time for a shitty prototype

aiming for:
1 player class
1 enemy type
3 offmap support powers
no graphics
no sound
just shit

>>126540563
it's just a simple pathfinding algorithm
google djikstra's

tfw don't want to pay for a dedicated server to host my multiplayer but users are too stupid to handle port forwarding on their own

Combat of the souls games with top down/angled camera & buzzwordly generated levels

r8 my idea

>>126540058
Use cellular automata to simulate your air. It should even extend to having varying pressure.

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>>126539697
it's a shitty roguelite with a focus on light/darkness and group combat

it takes so long to get things done. pic related is from january i must be the slowest dev ever

>>126539126
Pseudo randomness doesn't need to be finite. It only means its deterministic in a way.
So if you know the seed, you can follow the algorithm and generate it yourself in exactly the same way.
But in practice yeah, there is a finite number of possible terrains because you're constrained by floating point calculations.
A lot of things would be fun and interesting, but they're just not doable.

That said, i think it could actually be possible to generate a random game if you constrain yourself very heavily.
Lets say the game will always be top down 2D and constrained by 2D physics.
You write a physics engine where each object ingame has a position, mass, velocity, friction, spin, etc.
When generating a game, you basically generate a bunch of object types (not actual objects).
Each one has a sprite, physics properties, behavior (this one is tricky), etc. attached to it.
You need winning and losing events attached to certain object types and interactions.
When you generate the object types, you then maybe do some clever analysis on how objects interact with eachother.
Based on that, you generate a map. That is, actual objects you spawn across your 2D world.
Of course you need to check if the map is actually winnable somehow.
And before you throw your player into this mess, you show him how a winning move looks.

>>126541042
>i must be the slowest dev ever
you would be surprised

>>126540791
Try https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hole_punching_(networking)

Still need a server but much less processing power than an actual game server would.

>>126540883
Souls' game combat is almost a bit too simple I think, but I guess for a shitty meme game that's fine.

>>126541167
I think I'm the Slowest dev ever. Not him.

>>126540791
UPnP?

>>126540246
>>126540452
When his game flops he is gonna blame it all on the "idiepocalypse" rather than his lack of talent.

It's gonna be glorious.

>>126541042

Progress is still progress anon. And I love it when games have small characters but massive weapons that swing out from them, at least it means you always have a comfortable attack range.

Nice gore effects too.

>>126541406
isn't that totally unrelated/irrelevant? I thought that was a protocol for connecting cheap routing equipment on a home network

>>126541569
It can open a port for you on the client.

>>126541042
your game looks fantastic
not just nice'ing you, it actually looks like a lot of fun

>>126540563
Just google scan-line fill algorithm.
It's fucking easy.

>>126541042

oh hey! I remember this one

>>126541461
desu his game flopping would be pretty huge, considering how good it looks. The only reason it might flop is if the gameplay is absolutely terrible, but I don't think a guy as smart as him would let that happen.

>>126541105
pseudo random generators on any computer anywhere ever have always been finite, just like anything else on any computer anywhere ever

>>126542182
>on any computer
You haven't studied comp sci have you?

>>126541670

oh, thanks

>>126542395
>le theoretical computation devices

>>>r/haskell

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I need games about farming; to play for research.

Preferably for PC, but I have a PS4 and 3DS too.

Be they successful, or actually good, I need to play games about running a farm, to understand how to organize farming mechanics.

>>126542395
notice how I said "anywhere", as in, "in any place that is"
I studied compsci actually, did you study english?

>>126535969

You could make Anki flashcards if you're really having trouble, for most of them just the repetition of using them constantly for stuff will burn them in though. For less common stuff you'll probably just use spacebar anyway.

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>>126542668
Farmville

>>126542668
What kind of "farming mechanics" are we talking about? Is the player actually doing the farming or is it more of a management thing?

>>126542030
I don't expect it to be bad but it might not recoup costs
how long has he spent on it, like half a decade

>>126542668
play minecraft

>>126537170

S is scale which is used more often, E makes less sense than P since separate has the "puh" sound that's usually used for teaching letters.

>>126542030
The game is gonna flop.
It has to sell like a million to recover the investment and it's not in a genre that pulls such big number unless it's the next portal, which I doubt.
And even then it's not gonna be enough to justify it being in development since 2009.

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so god damn depressing...

>>126542778
Mostly B, with a little of A. They can farm and forget if they want to, but if hey actually micromanage and tend the crops they'll grow more efficiently. Some crops only grow during certain seasons, others only within certain biome; irrigation and weed control are also two in-play factors; more to come most likely.
So a notable level of detail with a minimal amount of effort permissible, but more involved participation rewarded.

>>126543062
shouldnt have been so jewish on those 5 dollar offers

>>126543062
21 days is plenty of time, keep on shilling my man and it'll all work out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmEAYVKDymk

>>126542756
Already played it.
Gave it about 10mins, threw up in my mouth, closed it out.

>>126543158
does Kickstarter force you to limit the $5 contributions?

>>126543056
I'm assuming the price is gonna be 20-30 dollars. A million sales at that point means 20-30 million dollars. I find it very hard to believe he put in this much money in its development.

>>126543062
why not try releasing the game on steam instead of being a jew and doing kikestarted

>>126543205
>keep on shilling

He hasn't even started shilling, all he did was make a tumblr post and post it here.

>>126540883
Been tossing this around in my head a while.
We can share thoughts if you desire

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Music/DnB anon.

Didn't progress for my game at all today, but made some random robot voice. If anyone wants some robotic goodness in their games, let me know, because this is actually really fun to do.

Example : http://www41.zippyshare.com/v/etWF9fJl/file.html

>>126543062

>no number on number plate

there's your problem

https://a.pomf.cat/ofiwbk.webm

Kinda wanna just do an FPS where you climb tall things now.

>>126540883
people need to stop using the Souls games as their "_____ but _____ with _____"
if you think you can replicate Souls level anything you're kidding yourself

>>126542668
[cont]
Are any of the Harvest Moon games on the PC? I know that new one is supposed to be shit, but were the older ones ever ported? Are there any on the PS4/3DS that I can get for super-cheap?

>>126543645

You can just play the older ones on an emulator.

>>126543645
does 3DS play regular DS games?
Harvest Moon DS was pretty rad

>>126543631
Souls combat is a fine base when it comes to mechanics, though. Many good lessons can be taken from it, and there are several far worse options.

>>126543736
3ds can play ds games, n64 harvest moon is GOAT though

How to pixel art? Tutorials are too superficial or too advanced, I just want to draw 32x32 monsters and objects.

>>126543645
psp had harvest moon boy and girl maybe it runs on PS4? idk i dont follow consoles

>>126543645
Emulate the GBA ones, it takes about 5 seconds to download the rom and emulator.

>>126544143
draw monsters on paper
trace
clean up
<3

>>126544143
learn regular drawing

>>126544143
>Tutorials are too superficial or too advanced
what tutorials have you been looking at? Reading a tutorial isn't going to magically insert pixel art knowledge inside your head, you have to be familiar with the basics of character design and drawing, at the very least.

Read the OP

Eat a poop

>>126543645
Friends of Mineral Town was the best. It's on GBA, emulate it.

The new Harvest Moon games aren't Harvest Moon games anymore, the name was taken by Natsume and so to keep the name they have to pump out shitty games.

The real harvest moon games are called Story of Seasons now, they're made by the same company that has made all the old ones.

>>126544406
But I just had McDonalds

if i drop some promo codes for my ......... mobile ........... game will you guys be nice and not leave bad reviews even if the game is bad
?

i-i want to share but i dont want trolls to ruin my rating

>>126544584
whodev are youdev

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>>126544584
>i dont want bad reviews even if my game is bad
>i want to share but i dont want "trolls" to ruin my rating
what the FUCK

>>126544584
If people give you bad ratings for a bad game, they aren't trolls you retard

>>126544584
Professional mobile dev protip: nobody wants premium mobile games when there are 10.000 new free ones added to the store daily

>>126544687
>>126544730
fuck you trolls!

>>126544584

i only give a bad review when a bad review is due

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>>126544584

>mobile dev

>tfw someone offered to be a music guy for my game

Not sure how to feel desu.

>>126544754
the promo code is for my no adsIAP:^)
>Professional mobile dev
do you work for a studio or are you just releasing your own products 1MA-style?

>>126544837
>tfw no qt3.14 music guy
>tfw no qt3.14 programmer guy
>tfw no qt3.14 art guy
>tfw no one wants me, a qt3.14 ideaguy

>>126544858
Studio
Rewards for watching video ads are generally much better received than banners and an option to remove them

>>126545042
yeah im using interstitials with a 2.99 remove ad IAP, seems to be the sweet spot atm

>>126544837
>tfw someone offered music for my game
>he is shit

How should I reject him without hurting his feelings?

>>126544837
I can be a music guy, but I can't garantee to be a qt, and I can't garanti to make great themes...
What kind of game? What is made of it?

>>126545110
How's that working out for you? I imagine it's actually viable if you're doing this alone/with a tiny team, but it stops being a workable solution when you want long term profits that allow you to pay for a dev team to keep a 2 week content/live ops cycle.
I'm not a dedicated monetization/economy designer but if you want I can share what I know.

>>126545551
no keep it to your self

>>126526678
Counter point, Nuclear Throne.

>>126543454
Sure, go ahead.

>>126545152
anon, he will never git gud if you don't tell him

>>126546227

Nuclear throne as the advantage of having better gameplay. Isaac stands up on the sheer amount of items and the variety that stems from it.

Because the base shooting mechanics are pretty fucking dull, and using items sucks seeing they run on a weird charge system that goes by a room by room basis

>>126546636
I have no problem telling anons they suck, but this is a guy from tumblr, he is gonna kill himself if I do.

>>126546868
ok be gay

>>126545152
If you openly asked the Internet for music and for a music guy then you can say you found someone else that fits the project better. If he randomly sent you music say you don't need any music right now and you'll contact him when you do.

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Grappling hook spell doubles as a lanyard.

>>126546995
is this supposed to be some sort of quidditch gayme

>>126547243

No you fight evil as a champion of love and justice.

>>126546995
Looks awesome!

>>126545152
if he doesnt realize hes shit already then he doesnt have what it takes

dont worry about it

>>126545551
>How's that working out for you? I imagine it's actually viable if you're doing this alone/with a tiny team, but it stops being a workable solution when you want long term profits that allow you to pay for a dev team to keep a 2 week content/live ops cycle.
>I'm not a dedicated monetization/economy designer but if you want I can share what I know.
It's the only thing I've found to be profitable. What do you do and how does it work better than what I'm doing now?

>>126546995
Needs cute girl as AWACS.
Movement looks pretty slick.

>>126546995

So what's the difference between the pull and grapple spells?

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>>126528794
What about Undertale? It seems to have done pretty well.

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>tfw just can't design and code scary enemies

I'm shit with design in general, so I want to go for bizarre/uncanny, but it just ends up looking goofy and silly. Fuck man, this shit is hard.

>>126547689

Uh oh anon, you said the U word.

>>126547805
What's your game, senpai? What kind of themed enemies do you need?

>>126547805
Anon, "scary and uncanny" no longer exist. They've been driven into the ground by countless failed creepypastas and slender something or another. Anything that tries to look creepy will invoke those and wind up looking, just like you said, goofy and silly. Either make it really subtle or go a different route.

do enums actually do anything other than increase readability? using a normal int seems like much less of a hassle.

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>>126547829
UNDERTALE UNDERTALE UNDERTAAAAALE
TOBY FOX IS MY GOD BOY WHY CAN'T YOU GUYS BE MORE LIKE HIM HUH :^)

>>126547965
I'd say that scary stuff is best made when compared to a much friendlier environment though. Like, make a game that looks really cute and cheerful, and add some " scary " stuff to it, but really subtle and short. It will have a better effect than going for the full " LEL 2 SCARY XD " thingy.

>>126548121

Now talk about shovel knight, that'll really get them going

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>>126547486

With magical green radar things around her head?

>>126547551

Pull/yank spell quickly adds force to a physics object without any being applied back to the caster and is mostly just some thing used to grab things that are far away. Yank also lets you flick mouse to move stuff in different directions which is fun.

Grapple is more like a traditional grappling hook that works on physics objects as well as walls and stuff. It's not very good for pulling stuff in unless it's something far away unless you're okay with it just slowly dragging along the ground to you.

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What are some things I can put in my game to pander and ensure my game is popular? I know waifus is one.

>>126548094
Enums are like uints with more restrictions allowing for more optimization and like you said readability.
It's good practice, sacrificing readability for a bit of "hassle" is stupid.

>>126548542
No, even better. Her hairpins are << >>.

>>126548283
INTUITIVE GAME DESIGN
STELLAR MUSIC
AN INSTANT CLASSIC

>>126548775

the funny thing is I actually like shovel knight, it's a nice little platformer with a welcome addition of not having to hold down to hold the downstab move, I like the music, and the characters are all fun for what they are.

>>126546995
So this is Tony Hawk's Pro Skater with a witch broom? I love it.

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what would be an alternative for an inn for RPG(since my game has very few of them, if any)

i worked out, how an adventurer can sleep in settlements without inns. they just pay a little for a random peasant so that he would let adventurer stay at his place over night (this was how real travellers in medieval times did that)

but i need to figure out, how an adventurer would be able to mingle and drink some mead with locals and in turn get quests or listen to rumors

>>126549126
Guild, pub, brothel?

>>126549126
Makeshift shelters? I honestly think you should keep bars and inns separate.

>>126540246
I hope he used a lot of calculus in his walking simulator.

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>>126548583
There are three things I consider to be one of the pillars of succesful games.

1. " Awesome feeling ". Making the player feel awesome for basic stuff is one of the ways to attract people to your game. That's why a lot of rage-inducing games like Super Hexagon are famous, because it gives that " awesome feeling " to the players. You can extend this concept to any multiplayer game too, like Counter Strike and MOBAs in general.

2. Choice. Yes, choice is one of the major things that will make people stay. Liberty is one of the things we all search in life, and adding liberty to your game will definitely attract a lot of people. How many times have you heard " Open world ", " Choose your side ", etc in marketing campains? That should prove my point. Also, looking at simple games gameplay-wise like Undertale, who has been incredibely succesful compared to the actual game, really puts in perspective the importance of choice and liberty in a game.

3. Style. Generally, games having a really unique art style make it to the top, because it turns out that graphics is the first thing you encounter when turning on a game. Limbo, Ori and the blind forest, etc ... are good examples of that.


The rest ( story, gameplay, etc ... ) will make people stay or flee, but these points will most certainly make a lot of people tune in and buy your game.

>>126548583
achievements
steam trading cards
memes
eastereggs from popular media
le funny jokes

just browse for casual and popular games, man

why do you guys produce low-effort garbage and then get mad when good games are successful? it's like fat women on reddit getting mad at advertisements depicting attractive, fit women

it's really pathetic and annoying

Where can I look for sprite art commissions? I need some money and I have the skills.

Should I look around Deviantart? Reddit? Pixeljoint? Where else?

>>126549316
Replace "choice" with "illusion of choice" and it's pretty much what this guy said.

t. guy who has made 0 (zero) popular games

>>126549787
Here.

I'll pay you $700.

>>126549316
>2. Choice. Yes, choice is one of the major things that will make people stay. Liberty is one of the things we all search in life, and adding liberty to your game will definitely attract a lot of people. How many times have you heard " Open world ", " Choose your side ", etc in marketing campains? That should prove my point. Also, looking at simple games gameplay-wise like Undertale, who has been incredibely succesful compared to the actual game, really puts in perspective the importance of choice and liberty in a game.

This is retarded. There are tons of games where your choices are minimal yet they are fun to play. I'd change this for variety instead of choice. Choice implies you actively choosing something while variety is something that can just happen if you have a lot of content.

>>126549862
For what?

>>126549787
I'm interested. Post your portfolio and I'll take a look.

>>126549316
>Choice
>There's literally no games with actual choices

Yeah, no.

And if you mean freedom to do what you want, then again no. There are plenty on rail scripted games that are really fun, like Asura's Wrath, literally no freedom.

>>126549787
I'll pay you. I'm a talentless hack when it comes to drawing, but I'm good with everything else. Together, we can make the greatest game ever to exist.

>>126549872
I am not saying that games that don't have any choices are not good, I just say that advertising your game as a game where you can CHOOSE stuff, worlds, different stories, etc ... will often be a succesful campaign because people like the impression of having options when playing a game.

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>>126549257
>>126549273
consider that most settlements are simple villages, filled with peasants
typical population size for the village ranges from 50 - 300

each one of them having some sort of bar/inn/pub/brothel is kinda absurd from economics standpoint

i will make so that like 1 of 10 villages has inn/pub/bar.

but i can't think of anything to give to those other villages that don't have an inn/pub/bar

>>126549931
For your sprites.

>>126549941
>>126550040
There's a portfolio but I need to complete it. If you guys send me your email addresses (even temporary ones) I will send the stuff.
I'm paranoid. Yeah, I know, not good for having nice exposure, but eh.

>>126550112
>each one of them having some sort of bar/inn/pub/brothel is kinda absurd from economics standpoint
have you been to britain

>>126550192
>Scared of posting your stuff

You'll never make it.

>>126550197
it's almost 2016, they don't have villages of 50 people anymore...

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>>126550197
i don't think modern british villages compare to a place like pre-christian scandinavia

>>126550223
I know, desu senpai. Even if I rationalize it, it's stupid. Maybe I'm just scared that my tumblr page will appear in Google on 4chan and stuff. There's a lot of people who judge this place and it might not give the best impression, you know?

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>>126550192
[email protected]

I look forward to it! As long as you have spriting powers, I have money to fling at you.

>>126550371

The people who will be upset about you posting on 4chan aren't the ones who are smart enough to find out about it via trawling the archives.

>>126550462
Remember to post his stuff here after he email you them. ;^)

>>126550112
They could always go drink at the village leader's house as guests of the village

Who will be the next dev to make it big time?
I'm guessing rotatedev.

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>>126546995
>>126548542
>Magic broom flying simulator
Demo when?
Oculus support when?
Cute witch grll MC when?

when will vine make an original game?

>>126548583
Read up on "gamification", it's basically a distilled study of what makes games attractive and addictive and how to apply it to other things, not surprisingly those techniques can be applied to games themselves.

>>126549126
>>126550112

Enterprising medieval villagers would each brew their own wine/beer/alcohol

When the batch was ready, they'd open up their home for any comers and charge them (either in coin, barter, or favor) for the drinks

>>126551009
every game ever made had already been imagined by cave men playing with rocks and bones anon

>>126551093

how can you imagine gta with rocks and bones mate?

>>126551179
if your imagination is so poor that you can't imagine such a thing, then nobody will be able to explain it to you

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>>126550462
I will contact you man, thanks. Hopefully we can work together.

>>126551501

she's fat now? wtf

>>126551589
She doesn't look that fa--
>Those legs
Oh.

>>126551179

holy shit a caveman themed GTA would be fucking awesome.

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>>126551589
>>126551701
I don't think she looks fat. Anyway, any other person wants any sprite commissions? Just leave your email. And if you have any other idea about where to get clients please do tell.

thank boyos

>>126551945
Marie is va-rie cute!
callie is better you fuck

>>126551768
>Press X to steal rock.

>>126550868
Yeah me too look at his awesome progress post from the last thread
>>126524491

>>126552135
>Press ◻ to Ooga
>Press Doug to Booga