/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

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also I'm trying to use techno's table to get the dragon bone fist, but if I run the LUA script I just get this and no way to attach it to darksouls.exe,and if I don't the item swap script doesn't work
is there any way I can fix this?

>>126354526
Use a save editor, it's much easier to just get them that way.

Axe Knight?

I hope they get rid of the generic zombie hollows in DS3

>>126354526
Reinstall CE and then try the LUA itemswapper thing again, it should work.

>>126361752
I think somehow your old shuffling friends will still be around.

What is the best DaS1 weapon and why is it the Zwei?

>>126363419
Claymore beats Zweihander

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y/n? Each loadout is on the same character.

What are some basic things I should know if I want to make a ds2 hex/dex build (mostly pve)?

>>126363549
Wrong

>>126364023
Hexers are faggots.
Since you're going hex/dex anyway, grab the Fume Sword. It's the best weapon in the game and the Dark scaling on it will benefit even more from your stats.

>>126364023
Don't neglect pyromancy. It is the backup spec for the 3 other magic types. If you come across a boss that is resistant to dark, swap over to your pyro equipment. That said, Fire Longsword in FotFG is an important early melee weapon for all magic specs.

>>126364069
Only thing Zweihander does better is be a meme weapon

>>126365692
Nice meme

What if in Dark Souls 3, daggers don't do extra backstab/parry damage?

>>126368516
I hope they leave things the same. DaS2's backstab mechanic with anti-backstab gear was pretty good.

Removing extra parry damage would be counter-intuitive to skill-based gameplay as well, in fact I hope they add even more parry+ripostable enemies/bosses.

>Dark Souls 2 has like 20 updates/patches spread across vanilla and Scholar
>Bloodborne has like 10
>Dark Souls 1 has like 6
>Demon's Souls has had like 1, if even that
Why is this?

>>126368593
Removing the extra parry damage from daggers so you get less of these Mundane Dagger switching faggots

>>126369739
Don't get parried then.

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Guide for the Dark Souls 3 fanbase:
1. Don't insult DS1
2. Don't compliment DS2
3. Don't mention DS2 unless you are actively shitting on it
4. Make sure you state that any given thing in DS3 is "like DS1/DeS", so that you aren't insinuating in any way that anything from DS2 has made it outside of DS2, even if it is a potential improvement or sidegrade.
5. State that you hope Soul Vessels make a comeback, but never mention the downsides and do not make any references to DS2.
6. When someone mentions DS2 (or even passively reminds you of its existence), drop oneliners such as (but not limited to):
>a. "lmfao are you defending DS2 right now"
>b. ">he still plays DS2"
>c. "DS2 was just fundamentally bad. Really glad FROM is returning to their roots with DS3."
>d. "It just had no story and wasn't very fun"
>e. "It was just so slow compared to DS1.
7. Pretend you are playing and have been playing DS1 for the entire duration of the wait for DS3 if at any point DS2 is mentioned in a conversation you're a part of.
8. Any time someone brings up a part of DS2's story, refuse to acknowledge that it happened at all. If they directly reply to you, respond with "lol too long didn't read" or any variant.
9. Constantly state how any part of DS2 that was a reoccurance was fanservice. Do not acknowledge any reoccurences that are already visible from DS3, or if you have to, state that it's fine because of "x" reason. (Usually mentioning Miyazaki's name or "mumble mumble b-team" will allow you to continue "being a part of the community".
10. Do not acknowledge any lore that is outside of Vaati's videos; either from DS1 or DS2. If anything is brought up outside of the content contained within them, claim that the person is "reaching" or state that you "don't buy it". If Vaati is ever proven wrong, state that you knew he was retarded the whole time, then go back to the beginning of this step.

>>126370015
>he typed that all out for free

>>126370015
TOH > AotA

>>126370273
If you really think there's any Souls DLC that's been better than aota you're an autist.

>>126370448
GOTEEM BRUH

>tfw 6 old whips
thanks bird

swear to god the heide spear guy in tower of flame is harder than any boss up untill that point

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I've got a problem with DSfix. Whenever I unlock the fps the game runs at super speed. Like 1.5x speed or something even if I cap it. How can I fix this?

>>126363549

Claymore has more moves and complexity , but Zweihander has more damage, reach and can stunlock

Objectively speaking the Zweihander kills faster than the Claymore.

In steam, should I opt into the beta? Because I this I have to in order for dsfix's latest version to work

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That wasn't fun.

>>126374739
Elaborate

How does power within work exactly?

Does it add extra damage or just raises up the strength stats?

>>126372585
By doing yourself a favour and not playing DS1 in the first place.

>>126374801
Getting punished by his straight sword backswing without recourse because I'm using a greatsword, getting constantly one shotted by his slow swing when he's nearly dead, and so on.

>>126374921
I used a UGS on Fumy because I'm a masochist. Nice one, friend.

>>126374921
>Getting punished while using a UGS
Git gud.

>>126373837

No don't use the beta build. It should be removed but looks like From just stopped caring.

>>126374896

I think it either raises your AR or damage by a percentage. Either way, it's percentage based.

Is there a reason I shouldn't grind in Dark Souls?

>>126375382
You'll have fewer opportunities for multiplay if you level up too much. Aside from that, no.

>>126375382
It's a waste of time. If people can do NG+8 at level 1 then you can defeat whatever it is that's giving you trouble and get the ton of souls the boss gives you.
Jus.... Git gud

>>126375382

It's not necessary.

>>126375382
You can grind if you think it helps, or you need a few extra levels for a particular spell. Generally you shouldn't ever need to though, whatever messed up build imaginable somebody has beaten the game with it.

>>126375464
>>126375470
>>126375479
>>126375504
Cool, thanks.

>>126375527

If you need souls acquire a boss soul and do the glitch to spend it an unlimited amount of times.

Leveling up is not really important in Dark Souls, unless you want to use gear you can't otherwise use.

Spend your souls buying stuff and upgrading your gear instead

>Jump into a big ass hole with 4 Loyce bros
>Fight off an army of Charred Loyce knights
>big ass portal appears
>Ivory King walks out of the portal.
>This fucking plays

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alTQiC6hhGc

Makes the Crown of the Ivory king fucking worth it

>tfw loser who only plays in early hours
>can't play local region because no uk/eurobros
>can't play global region because amigos warpstabbing me

Mods pls delete

Greatswords seem to be my default weapon for dealing with enemies or bosses I never fought, or when I go into pvp.

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>>126375976
It was a pretty cinematic and tense fight, even if BIK is just a faster pursuer with flashy moves and a super long sword.
Most people lean towards Alonne being the hardest boss, while Raime usually claims the title of the ultimate casual filter, which is fairly justified, in my opinion.

>knight set w/ elite knight helm and legs was my go-to fashion souls for DS1
>knight set looks like ass in 2, elite and knight set metals don't match
>have to find some new way to be fashionable

guess i should farm for the royal swordsman set

>tfw still have never played Ivory King

already spoiled for it all so I don't care, but I wanted to take a break from stupidly frustrating DLCs and never got back to it

is it as good as burnt?

>>126376727
>burnt
The ivory king was the guy that got burnt, and its the best of the DLCs, or really frustrating if you refuse to just walk past the wheelskeletons2.0

lost izalith hurts to look at

>>126376887
Yep brainfart.

If it's similar to Old Iron King I'll be very happy. Not just the boss quality but the level design was as good as anything they've ever done.

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>>126377082

http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls/mods/194/?

No need to thank me.

>>126377243
sadly i am playing on the ps triple

who the fuck made the lava for this game, i want him fired and removed from the industry

>>126377312
that's what lava looks like

also look around instead, that place has huge architecture in the distance

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>tfw just started playing a Souls game for the first time (DS 1) and getting my ass repeatedly spooked by scary skeletons

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>>126377312

Well you're out of luck then. Unless you can find a developer version of the game.

>>126375470
>Jus... backstab each enemy two or three times u casul

>>126377243
what helmet is this guy wearing?

Is the black set still solid later in the game if I keep upgrading it?

I'm a hexfag

>>126377537

Thief mask with braided hairstyle.

>>126377623
oh duh. thanks. I was like "I don't remember there being a sick turban in DaS1"

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>>126375976
It didn't feel like a normal Dark Souls fight at all but it was still really awesome.
>the knights readying their weapons as you approach
>you jump into the chaos and they follow you
>first part is just knights all over the place
>Ivory King shows up coming out the Eye of Sauron
>good boss fight follows

Only time in series that you actually seemed like a powerful ruler or a king. Easily my favorite fight to be summoned in too

Why does Dark Souls have 3 wikis and can we please mercy kill wikidot

>>126378034
wikidot > wikia >>>>>> fextralife

>>126378034
Why wikidot one is the only one with a tolerable layout

>>126378239
>>126378278
Actually I forgot they have all NPC dialogue, I forgive them for making scaling info annoying to quickly look up.

>>126378278
I hate that wikidot is the only site that's pleasant to use, but then you go on fextralife and they have a bunch of information that wikidot straight up doesn't have. I always have to check both to make sure I get everything.

Is getting the Forlorn set annoying or easy? Think I might cosplay to catch a few new players.

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>new thread at not even close to 750 posts

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>>126375976
This and Sir Alonne were the highlights of the DaS 2 DLC for sure.

>>126378761
One piece per forlorn invader, bought from Straid. I don't know if it's hard to do in early SM tiers.

>>126378949
Yeah I can run through the game very quickly at low SM, no idea if the invasions are scaled or just won't happen.

>>126378761

Annoying. Sometimes the game gets bugged and he just won't invade you anymore.

>>126378761
be aware that your legs look fucking weird in that set

Ehh I'll just be lazy and make a generic looking NPC.

>>126379692
You wont fool new or old players, invader NPCs have like 3k+ HP and very stiff movement

>>126379787
I've seen one guy roleplaying an NPC summon for reason, he was actually pretty good with the movement

I more just want to fuck with the playstyle, constantly try to guard break etc.

>>126379692
>>126379787
Oh and use the name checker just in case, a lot of things were censored for the oddest of reasons, Knight comes out as K***ht if your lucky or ****** if the games feels like being even more of a shit, presumably because all the black players that didn't quit the series after the Catarina default face in DS1 would instantly sue them for using "nig"

>>126379994
>word censor

every time

i'm pretty sure runescape ditched theirs last decade

>>126379994
There's a censor? Huh, so that's why I've been running into so many people with random asterisks in their names.

What's the average SL/SM range for the Smelter Demon fight?

>>126380878
Usually the second to last Lord soul route so I guess ~750k

>>126381336

Neat. Thank you.

can i get banned from SotFS online from using an ENB and shit?

>>126381410
Wouldn't risk it, they have a zero tolerance approach to any modding.

>>126381638
Wait really? I thought Dark Souls 2 had a ton of mods, doesn't that kind of fuck a lot of stuff up with having to uninstall them if you want to do co-op or pvp?

>>126380878
I'd say around 500k. There are a fair number of people who do it later though.

>>126381868

You can use mods like gedosato and deadzone fix without getting banned.

>>126381953

I'll try and see if I can stick around 500-750. I wanted to re-do my pyro twink and help people demolish the Smelter Demon with my poison/toxic mists.

>>126381868
It does have a few, but people do get banned for using them and I personally wouldn't risk it.

Hangover effect from their first PC release getting hack to hell and back I guess.

>>126378601
Fextralife has a lot of bs including random lore speculation. Worse of all, there's some script that causes my entire browser to slow down. I think it's their ads.

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>bed of chaos
>floor fucking collapses out from under you with no warning and kills you
>it's attacks to a shitload of damage and will be a near instakill every time
>If you do survive, it's attacks also fucking knock you around so if you try and shield it or roll you'll get knocked into the aforementioned random holes in the ground
>fucking long ass hike back to the fight only to get instakilled by being knocked down a hole in the first 10 seconds

eat a dick dank souls. At least with other bossfights being repeatedly bamboozled didn't feel this cheap.

>>126378761
You can't force the forlorn to spawn except for that sole one in huntsman copse. They aren't easy to defeat either, they have split second reaction and are able to dodge all your shit. You really need some sort of bait and hit tactic to be effective against them.

>>126382457
The phantoms always impressed me, aside from the black shitters in Aldia's that bend over for you. They fight better than a lot of players for the most part.

That aura greatsword one outside Chariot kicked my ass countless times.

>>126382680
>They fight better than a lot of players
cuz they're cheatin' dicks

>>126382343
man, i fucking hate boc. it’s the one boss i just have no fun killing, ever. it angers me even more because lost izalith looks REALLY interesting and has so much lore, but was fucking gutted in the execution.
>tfw no witch of izalith dlc
>exploring pre chaos incident demon ruins/lost izalith
>trying to prevent the chaos incident, but setting in motion the mechanisms that caused it

Are lances better one or two handed?

>>126382343
>>126383197
I wonder given that area was rushed if BoC was supposed to be an actual boss instead of a pseudo-puzzle platformer with a touch of frogger. Biggest shame is that she looks awesome.

>>126383421
there is footage of a crawling boc, search for dark souls cut content.

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>Dark souls 3

>hype as fuck
>a little hype
>indifferent
>skeptical
>expecting dog shit

Where do you stand, /dsg/?

>>126382343
There's no bonfire within Lost Izalith because bonfires are a Gwyn thing. He can't just barge into a lady's house and stick ash and fiery swords all over the place. That's why the only bonfire near it is hidden.

DEEEEEEEEEEPEST LORE

>>126384379
cautiously optimistic, I hope they don't fuck it up but I know that they can

>>126384379
Well Bloodborne was good and it's by the same team so I'm pretty excited.

I hope they do away with a lot of the stupid as shit design decisions from DS2 like weapons degrading like they're met of wet paper and bonfires fucking everywhere.

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>>126384379
I'm hype as fuck because it looks like Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne had a love child. Looks fast paced, beautiful aesthetic, weapon arts look amazing (STR will be amazing again like in DeS hopefully), and the world looks to be interconnected and free flowing like Dark Souls1/Bloodborne. I am HYPE!

>>126384550
>bonfires fucking everywhere.
did feel a bit excessive

after playing through bloodborne and realising how rare lamps are in that game, I never felt stressed about it. guess that's the potential of building actual levels with shortcuts and loops everywhere, not hallways

I like the auto co-op system they used too, though I'd change to make phantoms actually spawn next to the host

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>>126384379
I'm hyped but I feel too hyped because I know if I want to enjoy it I'm going to need to spend like $500 on a non-shit computer

>>126384550
>weapons degrading like they're met of wet paper
>Playing on PC
lol

>>126384379
Isn't it coming out a little soon after Bloodborne? It kinda feels like they're just cranking these games out

>>126385021
Never thought about that

They're an extremely efficient developer though.

>>126381759
anyone?

>>126385021
it started development before Dark Souls 2 did, actually
in terms of cycles there was probably a lot of overlap between DS3 and Bloodborne, but DS3 was started earlier and Bloodborne was probably made to fill the gap left after DS2 given how short it was and how few weapons there are
I'm guessing that's why the combat is looking fairly similar between the two

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first time on ds1 since it's release

i... don't remember looking like beef jerky

>>126385464
fire will make it scale with your int (+faith)

it'll lose dex scaling, you have to look at the numbers of the weapon fully upgraded to know it's worth to build for that

>>126385464
Not unless the weapon you are using has D or worse scaling on DEX

>>126384379

>a little hype

The game looks fun as fuck, but I'm worried about the build diversity because everything seems to be very fast.

>>126384379
ONly been playing DS for about a week picked up DS2 SoTFS for like 10 bucks. I fuckin love it. So only midly hyped for DS3 as my highest level char on DS2 is only 77.

How is Dark Souls II?

I've played DaS for roughly 200 hours and now a friend of mine wants to play DaS2 together. I've heard mostly bad things about it on here, but review scores are the same as of the first one, so I'm really not sure whether I should get it or not.

>>126386165
>>126386239
what about the second part?
assuming I'm going to be relying on casting, will I be able to get as much damage out of an imbued weapon as I would out of a physical weapon if I don't put points in dex?

I'm getting tired of my fire longsword, what's a decent upgrade for it as a hexer? I'm currently at the smelter demon

>>126386462
I thought that about Bloodborne but the more I played I saw how expansive two guys with swords and guns brawling can be. And obviously tanky builds won't be going anywhere for DaS3.

>>126386673
You'll be disappointed if you come in expecting it to be as good as DaS, because it isn't, but it is still a good game that you should be able to enjoy since it is still a similar game to the first one. Just keep your expectations reasonable.

>>126386687
Depends on the weapon yeah but an infused fire weapon will deal more damage than a non infused weapon if you have 8 DEX, thats exactly what infusions are for
Fire for INT + Faith, caps out the earliest and is the easiest
Magical for INT
Enhanced for INT but want it to deal phyical damage not split magical/physical
Lightning for faith
Dark for INT/faith depending on which is lowest.

The thing is fire doesn't really have a place, if you want to make a caster build then you will end up with boatloads of INT and faith, meaning that either magical/lightning/dark would be better, or you don't invest a lot of points into into or faith, but then you have spare skill points to throw into DEX, in which case 99% weapons would be better off uninfused
Thats not even getting into the fact that you need to aesthetic/NG+ if you want to fire weapon buff spell.

>>126386673
It's a fun game. Nowhere close thematically, atmospheric or immersive as the first but there's enough there to pile a lot of hours into.

Connectivity is also so easy.

>>126387083
>as good as DaS
It's just different.
Doesn't mean it's worse.

>>126386673

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9jrShSwjPU

this should give you a good overview of the game if you are coming straight out of Dark Souls 1

>>126386673
>friend of mine wants to play DaS2 together

It's a good co-op game.

>>126387715
>30 minutes
m8... he should just play the game

>>126387402
Fire's good for a backup spec like for when you fight the cool ranch smelter demon as a INT-heavy build.

>>126387779
His weak to dark tho, and you get the fume sword before fighting him, ideally anyway

>>126387739
should be recommended more often as that

I walked a mate through all of DaS2 in the space of a few nights and it's one of the best co-op experiences ever

>>126387707
Actually I would argue that its main fault is not being different enough. They tried to recapture what made DaS so good, except they failed and so everything comes off as being a slightly cheap knockoff.

>>126387768
>four month calculus class
m8... he should just do the math

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>>126387927
I'd argue that the main issue with DaS2 is that it just looks really soulless compared to the first game. Everything from the animations to the stale-looking low contrast graphics kind of screams "just enough effort but not as much as they could put in if they tried."

>>126388146
Some of the landscaping is amazing though, Majula, Iron King's Arena, Dragon Aerie etc.

>>126388146
>low contrast graphics
Use the fucking brightness slider you wombo mong.

>>126388282
it lacks the vertical design that DS1 had, where every level managed to loop back on itself
seeing how the world connected with itself was one of the coolest parts of the game for me

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>>126388487
>brightness is the same thing as contrast

>>126388627
Areas are also more open in DaS2

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>>126388146
Who complains about the animations?
The game is smooth as fuck.

>>126388858
>le infinite stamina drakekeeper man

Fuck him with a passion.

>tfw npc ghost starts attacking host and I can only try to block it for him

>>126388858
The complain is actually that its "too smooth" people got used to odd jerky anime windup attack way that most of DS1 worked, allone knights are the closest to what every enemy does in 1

I keep dying to throne defender/watcher on my no-death runs

How do I effectively beat those fucks? They're literally my only problem with a no-death run

>>126388776
The contrast isn't the problem dipshit.
You just failed to follow simple instructions.

>>126388858
>mocap
>good animations

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>126389050
Summon you dummy, you can literally summon 3 NPCs for that fight, you can outnumber the boss 2 on 1

>>126389035
DaS1 felt and looked horrible when I went back to it after 2. I know the port is just shit but nobody can legitimately prefer the animation or model work in 1.

>>126388845
That I can agree with, but look at Bloodborne
never feels cramped, camera never really screws you over, but the level interconnectivity is really well done

>>126389035
Are videogamers really this retarded?

>>126388858
It's inconsistent
That webm is pretty smooth, but just watch as an NPC invader jitters around as it tracks you, or you snap to open a door or put your shield on your back. It's this horrible looking mix of smooth animations and jarring, utilitarian animations.

fuck, I just got catarina onion man killed

feels bad man

>>126389650
>no happy endings

>>126389309
Playing DS2 on PS3 and then SotFS on PS4 really opened my eyes to how fucking ugly these games are. PS3 was this blurry mess that obscured all the sharp corners and repeating textures that became super obvious on the much cleaner PS4 version. The Shaded Ruin place with the lion guys makes me want to puke.

>>126389650
you kinda did him a favor, otherwise his own daughter would've had to kill him instead

>>126389817
She's already done it a few times so it's not like it's a big deal

>>126389457
Yes as opposed to the 100% smooth that was DS1's teleporting backstabs and NPCs in general. Take your nostalgia goggles off and go cirlestrafe havel for a while and watch him jump all over the place with random 180s

>>126389201
Benhard was the only summon, I think you have to unlock Vengarl by killing his body. And Benhgard is ridiculously weak.

Do you think Hexes would work? I've been considering switching to dark orb to kill them easily, they just won't give me any chances in closing in on them

>>126389852
it still makes her cry ;_;

>>126389714
Yeah there are some laughable textures in DaS2,with no effort at being hidden sometimes. Cleaning up after optimization isn't a From strength apparently.

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>>126384379
>there are people in this general who cant wait a year for the super deluxe edition with all dlc

>ds2 animations

https://youtu.be/pQ6SqmwXx2o?t=1314

>>126387823
If you're int-heavy, your fire bonus is much higher than your faith or dark bonus. Same thing if you're fighting a dark resistant boss as a hexer, or a lightning resistant boss as a cleric build, your next best option is to fall back to Fire.

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>>126389868
Are you playing non scholar? Because you can summon beerheart, vengral, bradley and ray in scholar.

>>126389853
I never said DS1 didn't suffer from the same thing
That webm just happens to show some of the nice animations and none of the ugly, which isn't totally true to the game

>>126389868
>unlock Vengarl by killing his body

Not that guy, I exhauted all of his dialogue in Shaded Woods and never found his body, where is it?

>>126389853
Except he never said dark souls 1 was better? The animations in DaS2 which were mo-capped look great and smooth as fuck, but the moment they had to hand animate anything it all goes apeshit. Compare the longsword attacks to something like the smelter hammer running attack where it looks like your dude just floats forward while the massive fucking chickenbone just rotates in your hands like it's made of paper.

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>>126390359
Right so since the animations are not perfect bringing them up as a good point when they are the best in the series doesn't count?
Get the fuck off it

>>126389959

Bloodborne looks nice tho, the sometimes horrible graphics are probably another thing that is the result of the weird development that DaS 2 had.

>>126390474
what

>>126390474
>best in the series

But they aren't. Even DeS animations are better. Bloodborne is miles better than all, and das/das2 are comparable.

>>126390359
Same happens in DaS1.
Just look at the titanite catchpole or bkga R2's or the gargoyle axe kick.

>>126390491
Well they must be heavily helped out by the lighting in BB. The scenery work is great too, there are objects fucking everywhere.

>>126370448
>If you really think there's any Souls DLC that's been better than aota you're an autist.
You should probably go back to AotA to refresh that memory of yours a little bit.

>>126390331
>scholar
Shaded woods, you have to unpetrify a statue after Tark or unpetrify one thats left of the bonfire over a gap you jump (the same are has a sublime bone dust with a syan guarding it), don't do both because its a waste of a branch.

Don't really see how you could miss him in vanilla unless you skipped the 4th great soul

>>126390646
That will be why, I followed a wiki page for that area so I didn't miss any treasure and it wasn't updated for SotFS. Damn I'll have to remember my next playthrough.

>>126390212
>>126390331
I only found one summonable phantom before the fog gate, which was Benhard.

And to the other guy, you have to slay his body right next to the petrified statue near Manscorpion Tark.

okay apparently i missed killing some bug somewhere and have to kill solaire as well

fuck me, i might as well just go kill every npc now i can't save anyone

>>126384379
Hype as fuck. It's going to be the first official Souls game that I'll get to play blind outside of what is shown in the trailers.

>>126389071
Actually, the contrast IS the problem. On my PC, I can't get the dragon invisible with the lowest brightness ingame and lowest brightness on my TV. I have to mess around with the contrast and the saturation to be able to make it invisible.

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Lucerne or Archdrake Mace for a ruin cosplay?

>>126390883
Right my bad anyway I'll just list all the possible summons
>Beerheart
Shows up regardless
>Bradley
Shows up if you can fight Aldia after watcher/defender meaning you had to talk to him 3 times and kill vendric
>Vengrals head
Shows up if you kill his body in shaded woods
>Ray
His shade signs is at the 2 torch golems right of the kings gate bonfire, it only shows up if you light the torches but if you clear the area then you can get him to follow you down to the throne

>>126390951
I've played 2 and BB blind, it's such a harsh reminder of how little From give you, or at least how little you pay attention. Only thing worse than not knowing where to go is running back and forth through endless mobs not knowing where to go.

>>126391121
So it's your monitors problem.
Calibrate that shit before blaming the game.

So many fucking retarded casuals in this general.

>>126391413
I'm not the same guy you responded to in the first place. I'm just saying, I had to change saturation to make it work, not just brightness.

And the game does look good once brightness, contrast and saturation is all set correctly. Especially when you use a torch in the tunnels before No Man's Wharf and when you light all the torches in that area.

>>126391515
They're dastards, it can't be helped.

>>126391515
haha hell yeah man hardcore gamers ONLY praise the sun

>>126391515
Merry Christmas too

>>126391515
Unlike what you might believe, you don't need to be hardcore to beat Souls games, anon.

>>126391315
>ruin cosplay

why

they look fugly

I haven't played DkS2 since near launch. I just got SotFS where can I go for early pvp?

>>126390474
>Here's a webm showing off das2's cool animations. The game is smooth.
>yeah, but it's also janky as fuck sometimes
>b-but das1 was shit too!! fucking nostalgia fags baka!
>Well, i never compared the two, and also the game IS janky sometimes, here are some examples
>but i never said it was perfect so fuck you you need to get off it that other game had flaws too so it's ok :^)))
literally what
>>126390578
Yeah, but dark souls animations are hand-made so they are at least consistently janky. In return you can free aim attacks all you want though, so it's a worthwhile trade-off if anything.

>>126391879
The blood arena, have fun getting destroyed because that has almost no MM restrictions.
Iron Keep Bridge otherwise

>>126391879
There will be an orange border around your active connevtivity areas on the bonfire warp screen

>>126391879
Invade the newcomers at forest and heides

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>>126391793
>>126391719
>>126391683
>>126391647
Baited these exact responses

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>>126386673 here

Downloaded it and going right in.
My only questions are:
is there a rubbish stat that gives essentially nothing like Resistance from DaS? Is there a way for me to fuck up my build unknowingly?

>>126392108
i baited your mom onto my DICK
HEYO
:^)

>>126392134

dexterity

>>126391967
>Yeah, but dark souls animations are hand-made so they are at least consistently janky. In return you can free aim attacks all you want though, so it's a worthwhile trade-off if anything.
Here is a fun experiment for you, don't play the entirety of 2 locked on, you still have massive freedom on terms of movement.

What a fucking retarded point you are making anyway
>DS1 animations are jittery as all hell and look retarded all the time
>THIS IS FINE DS1 PERFECT MASTERPIECE
>DS2 has some jerky animations and a lot of really smooth animations
>NO IS TERRIBLE DS2 IS BAD

Animations in 2 are better than 1 that's the end of that, go back to being wrong about every boss being a dude in armor or some shit mr "I can judge a game by listening to internet memes of it, this basically makes me an expert"

>>126392134
>is there a rubbish stat
no

and you'll be able to respec later in the game

>>126392134
Nah, every stat is useful, ADP (resistance of this game) gives you iframes on rolls so don't roll early in the early game or you will get the shit clipped out of you midroll.
Levels in general cost way less souls and don't start absurd level cost scaling until far later than DS1, you can also respec.

>>126392108
haha hell yeah man trolled em hard praise the sun brother

>>126392108
>this le crafty soulsman

>>126392225
what

>>126392484
I know that you are incapable of reading but do try.

>>126392225
People are just mad that DaS 2 wasn't a clone of DaS 1. I suppose the same will eventually happen to DaS 3. Not even the almighty Miyazaki will save DaS 3 from that, since BB got a fair share of shitposting as well.

Instead of looking what the game expects from you and how the developers wanted the game to be experienecd, they want to be delivered exactly what they expect from a game on a silver platter.

>>126391848
i-i like them
so mace or lucerne?

>>126392565
I know that you're incapable of responding to the actual points people are making so just stop this silly argument because the both of you are clearly confused as to who is actually arguing for what

>>126392668
There are easier ways to get banned you know.

Actually, you could just learn a bit of discipline and stop comming here, if you don't like 4chan

>>126392668
and of all nights

>>126392225
>Here is a fun experiment for you, don't play the entirety of 2 locked on, you still have massive freedom on terms of movement.

I have 800 hours in 2. This is wrong. You barely get any freedom unlocked, whereas in das1 I can literally do an attack at any angle while unlocked, even right behind me.

>>126392637
This, but there is a way to make the perfect souls game.
Make it early access and leave it in the alpha limbo with the promise of implementing every single fan suggestion sometime.

>>126392971
Sure you can't
In other news today the sun is refusing to rise because some autist is mad on the internet.

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>>126392971
So you have 800 hours and it didn't cross your mind to aim before commiting to an attack?
lel
And yes you can aim in any direction after rolls and backsteps. You just don't have to fail the right input order and timing.

>>126392108
Oh yeah, you baited me so hard. It was so not obvious.

Who cares. I just want to type something.

>>126392970
Let's all show some jolly co-operation spirit and give this poor man who is begging for (You)'s on Christmas Day some love

>>126393649

1300 hours here. He's not aiming his attack, but moving his whole character. To get a better feeling of the limited aiming you should try aiming during combos.

FUCK hydras
what a shitty enemy type god damn

>>126394120
What's that anon?
Don't enjoy trying to hit my last head while I swing it around and attack half a map away from where you are standing? Well tough luck nigga because that's all your getting from me

>>126394042
>He's not aiming his attack, but moving his whole character.
Same in DaS, DeS and BB;^)

Now try aiming the pike charge in DaS1.
Compare that to DaS2.
Then report back.

>>126394595
I think you legitimately have down's syndrome.

why are there 2 threads?
wtf did you fuccbois do?

>>126394042
>He's not aiming his attack, but moving his whole character
Is this some semantical fuckery? He is aiming his character that then influences the aim of his attacks hitbox

>>126395081
OP is no longer with the light

I thought the prowling demon in izalith respawns
he's not here
what the fuck

>>126395350
did you sit at a bonfire?

>>126394595

Dude, I have thousands of hours in these games. I understand the difference between DeS/DaS and DaS2 style aiming. For anyone who doesn't: DaS2 style has aiming during the whole duration of the attack, but your turn radius is limited. DeS and DaS give you full control of the direction of your attack, but you're locked in the direction you choose after your swing passes a certain point.

>>126395350
use a bonfire ascetic. OH WAIT

>>126395458
yes

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About to start SotFS for the first time! Wish me MANY DEATHS/dsg/!

>>126395154
Take the r2 of the zweihander.

In DaS1 you could start the animation facing forward and then have the attack snap back 180 degrees behind you. In DaS2 you can aim slightly to the left or right after you start the animation, but you can't do anything after.

Also that ravioli isn't truly a backstep r1. He's backstep > running > r1.

is the silverblack spear any good for a hexer?

What's the best route for twinking in Dark Souls 2? What weapons are best for twinking?

>>126395920
Try the moveset, that's more important than objectivity
What do you want to use it for?

>>126396070
I kinda like the moveset, using it for pve

the damage on paper just seems to be really lacking, what am I missing?

>>126396049
I assume you want to get the agape ring asap, and then grab a +7 weapon from one of the DLC's. As for the route and SM you want, check youtube for specifics.

>>126395472

Forgot to add this:

Looks like DaS3 is going to have both types of aiming. Slower attacks like the Zweihänder R2 and the running attack are going to have aiming during the whole attack.

anyone getting the Japanese version of ds3 a month earlier, instead of waiting for the western release?

>>126395769
Enjoy the fun game my friend!

>>126396392
Alright, thanks. I actually didn't think of the DLC weapons.

>>126396428

I don't think I'll get a PS4 yet, so I'll wait for the western release.

>>126370015
can we please knock it off with the copy pasta?
OC gets cliched really fast when the creator consistently posts it in every thread.

>>126396667
I think I ended up with something like 40k SM or just under that and had a Scythe +7 found in Crown of the Old Iron King DLC. Fun low SM CO-OP/Invasions

What does /dsg/ think of High Wall of Lothric in comparison to Undead Burg level design-wise?

>tfw died to the smelter demon so many times all the knights in the area stopped spawning
fuck why does he do so much damage.

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>>126396472
Y-you too!

>>126370448
if AotA is the best, then OH and SotFS must be awful.

just saying, i was hugely let down by the artorias fight, and everything else seemed to go by too quickly.

the small number of new items didn't help much either.

>>126395770
>He's backstep > running > r1
No? Why lie?

>tfw the slide down to the bed of chaos is the funnest thing

>>126384379
Pretty Hype. It'll be the first Souls that I won't be spoiled for so I can't wait to go through it blind. In addition it looks like DaS but with less jankiness, and that alone is enough to sell it for me.

http://imgur.com/gallery/PIzJy

Why have I only just seen this. It's terrible

>>126395543
wait, are you implying ascetics are a good mechanic? fucking lmao

>>126395770
nigga what? backstep r1 has exactly the same animation as running r1. do you play this game?

>I am more hardcore than you: the argument

>>126398552
>my first post: the fool

>>126398147
>dastards
Let me guess, you also hate respeccing.

Fuck Izalith
>Solaire died
>Catarina died
>Lava is shitty until you get charred ring
>the whole place is a headache inducing eyesore
>Bed of Chaos is fucking retarded

Who the hell thought that was a good boss idea? Fuck this place, thank god I'm done.

>>126398463
Yes, but he isn't r1ing after the backstep, he's backstepping and then running so he can aim his character and then r1ing.

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>>126392637
lmao

>>126398147
it wasn't?

>>126398997
Demon Ruins and Lost Izalith could have been one of the all time great locations but shitty bosses and rushed design ruined it. Look how amazing and big the entrance landscape is.

why is this goofy snake always sleeping

>>126399015
No dipshit, if anything he's blocking(but you don't have to do that). Those are backstep R1's.

Scholar

So, I killed the Sinner and the terrible area with all the green shit and the boss that has all kinds of dead guys attached to him with the giant cleaver. Where should I go now? Forrest?

>>126398147
let's hear why optional difficulty buffs, unexploitable for ng+ specific gear were a bad mechanic

>>126399447
Walk towards Heide's Tower. The miracle vendor should open a path for you.

Shaded Woods is generally last.

>>126399494
>>126398147
Goddammit it's an opinion. If you don't like it don't use it, if you do then use it and keep it to yourself.

>>126399652
nice response coming from a guy flailing his opinion around going >implying fucking lmao

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HAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Is the fully upgraded silver straight sword better or worse than a fully upgraded longsword?

>>126400402
better in base dmg

a longsword can be upgraded elementally for extra scaling dmg though

>>126400402
swaggier, slightly disadvantaged though with the loss of the R2 poke, you'll have to roll if you want one

>>126400016
i don't understand, it's my first time posting about this stuff, it's just the fighting isn't helping the thread, every other thread laughs at us

>>126400791
>every other thread laughs at us
lel

>>126400867
hey man, i'm just saying

>>126400971

why do you care?

>>126401059
I wanted dsg to at least be a respectable place
that's why I care

>tfw onlyafro first language is spanish and he live in venezuela
waifu ruined

>>126401146
/dsg/ is the only general that's completely free of namefags and tripfags. think about it.

I really like Heide's Tower more than Anor Londo, maybe its a mix of the sky with the crumbling buildings and water.

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witch/cassieiyxa

seriously if i was playing dark souls this long and i was this shit at the game, I dont know what I'd do, on top of that if I was streaming as long as this dipshit and still only averaged 10 viewers..... how this guy has the balls to talk to anyone is beyond me, literally cancer.

>>126401209
>kobra
>lucifer
>not tripfags

Autismanon might as well be a trip. And I've seen some fags with trips in here every once and a while.

>>126401209
i don't see all namefags as being all that bad all the time, is every name fag a definite problem?
don't we still deal with that stupid 4kungs stuff sometimes?

>>126401209
I just assumed that's because none of us play with eachother beyond 5 minute help

>>126401362
kobra and lucy barely post here anymore.

>>126401209
We have a shitton of avatarfags though.

>>126401256
why does he sound like a fag

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Merry Christmas Britbros.

>>126401450
nah, just the regular smug animated generic moeblobs like every other general

>>126401256
shycass still plays? Like I know afro occasionally goes back to the game, but I thought cass and ippiki left a long ass time ago.

>>126401569
is christmas a meme holiday?

>>126401450
like who?

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>>126401569
Thanks mate! merry christmas and a happy new year to you :)

whose lord soul should i reap next?
spooky skeleton
furry dick convention
4 homos

>>126401690
>>126401256
I still have no idea if cass is a boy or a grill. Everything about him makes him seem like a girl (his name, his streams, his stream name, his stream titles, etc etc), but he could just be an autist.

And it would explain why he never talks, but it also could just be because he's actually shy.

>Go through all of Solaires dialogue
>He doesn't say praise the sun
>Read all his item descriptions
>doesn't say praise the sun anywhere

where did this meme come from.

Sitting on 40 dex and 40 str right now in ds2. What weapon would be a good pickup? Been using a +5 craftsman hammer but just now realized that my dex doesn't do shit for the hammer.

>>126401859
The Lost Sinner :^)

>>126401859
>furry dick convention
i have no idea what that means. seath? what are you building, mate?

>>126401256
>dies to ml butterfly

jesus christ

>>126401256
>died to moonlight butterfly

How is he so bad? Has he completely unlearned this game?

>>126401979
fume ultraGODsword of course

>>126401256
>streamer
>don't try to talk to or interact with your chat

but why

>>126401256
>dies twice to moolight butterfly

is he a meme streamer?

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>>126402081
>>126402063
>died again

>>126402151
>being cancer

Hello /v/!

>>126402151
All streamers are huge faggots and bums. And if They ACTUALLY DONT suck cocks then they are still bums.
>i play video games for a living
>go to thier youtube
>3500 videos
>each video only has 3 views.
>streamers.

>>126402242
>is he a meme streamer?
A meamer?

Why do people do butterfly this early anyway? Divine ember sucks ass

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>>126401960

>>126402265
Why is it cancer to interact with chat.

>>126402314
The only streamers I really watch regularly are star and jerma, I think they're both decent and star bans people for memeing too hard at least and puts effort into his videos.

>>126397389
>if AotA is the best, then OH and SotFS must be awful.

uh, well ones console garbage and the other is ds2

you tell me buddy

>>126402358
catacombs and free souls?

>>126402508
Ehh I still always leave it until I can one swoop it

>>126401256
how is he typing while playing the game simultaneously, does he have a speech to text or something or something.

Jesus christ his chat is retarded.

"How do I into roll timings? I've only been playing the game for 3 fucking years! But I only do da pvp so I don't know how to roll through attacks in pve!"

>>126402746
ah nevermind, must've been chat delay that made it look like he was typing while fighting the butterfly

>>126402746
Stream delay you double nigger.

Oh shit, Cass is actually speaking. First time I've ever heard him.

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>Fighting Smelter Demon: Blue Shift
>Greatshield of Cheese doesn't work anymore

Fuck this asshole-faced bastard

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>Time to use up my ten orbs
>discover on the first THREE invasions that you can be attacked and backstabbed during your spawn summon animation
>spend the next batch fighting people on the other side of the world who randomly turn invincible and stop moving, then speed off at mach 10 while my health vanishes
>last one is an UGS/tower shield using scrub who might as well not even existed it was such a hollow victory
I'm fine

Cass' fans are pretty fucking stupid, but James you are a sperg holy shit.

>>126403156
how so?

>bans people for criticizing him

lmao what

>>126403156
>hurr speaks volumes about the state of streaming today

agreed, what the fuck? People have always been booting up streams of them being shit at a game.

who is this guy?

Cass calling out james for being a /dsg/tard :^)

>>126403439
>being this new

>every cancer build in the book

>Havel armor wearers
>No sign of the Dragon Tooth

The rock himself is fat-rolling in his grave.

>>126403474

Who is james?

>>126403541
>i don't play to win

How's it being shit?

>>126403536
correct, we didn't all start posting on dsg at the same time

>>126403082
>Invade anywhere
>Its a faggot and 2 gay phantoms
>Everytime
Should my anger be low because its normal people co-op, or high because people need this much hand-holding that they co-op the entire game, all areas not just bosses?

>>126403630
>health bar bigger than your monitor
>calls others shit

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I like how npc shades and phantoms totally disregard latency.

>>126403645
Cass was big on /v/ too, so either you were a fucking /b/tard in 2009+ or you are only 2 years old on 4chan.

Either way, you are cancer and new. Kill yourself.

>>126398997
You know you can just quit the game when seigmeyer goes below 50% and once you continue the game he will be at 100% again while the defeated chaos eaters won't respawn

>>126404037
I'm almost certain I've been posting longer than you faggot, I just don't fanboy over ecelebs

Grow a pair cunt

>people are still responding to james seriously

Do they not understand? Are they all so new that they don't know "jimmies rustled"? I mean, I know it's reddit/9fag cancer now, but jesus christ.

>>126403758
some people coop for fun tho

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>>126404194
>cass
>eceleb

I didn't know "eceleb" meant "quentin-tier attention whore"

>>126403874
is that vanilla ds2 or sotfs?

>>126404037
>you don't know some "popular" dank souls streamer from 2009? Kill yourself faggot

simply epic

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>>126404194
>cass
>eceleb

You should know, known shitposters. I bet you don't even know who ruggasmalls is.

>>126404298
Then why are you posting his stream here

>>126404351
It's scholar.

>>126404382
But I'm not, anon.