/rlg/ – Roguelike General

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OHAYOU /rlg/!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's fault our best today!

No bullying.

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>>125929837
that's not how it goes you scrub
repeat after me:
Let's play our best today!

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>>125930060
>>125929837
awoooo
I really should go to sleep asap if I can.
But play your best today /rlg/!!!!!!!

>>125930265
You're a weeb too.

Otherwise you wouldn't be here, would you?

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>>125929837
>>125930060
>>125930168
lol fuck you, I'm gonna splat halfheartedly.

Where should I go for the best chance of finding power armor in Cataclysm?

I'm basically roaming block to block siphoning gasoline to fuel my mobile base part of the game.

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Where the fuck is Jupiter Hell?

magic mapping + pick axe make gehenmon a joke

In DCSS the enchanted items are obviously enchanted right?
Can non-obviously enchanted items still have a positive or negative enchantment value, or a curse? I remember picking up a normal-looking dagger back in .15, only for it to be +2 (no brand, just a positive enchantment).
I also remember seeing some sort of experiment on the DCSS forums where a guy entered wizardmode, spawned 20 shortswords, and wielded them all, only for one of the "mundane" ones to be -1 or something.

Is that still possible?

>>125931048
Find an army surplus store.

>>125931048
military bases
>>125931070
Kornel is a shitter who doesn't actually make games

>>125931154
I believe so but the tedium and risk of it being cursed and negative makes it not worth it because it won't have an ego

>>125931154
I've been picking up regular items in 0.17, and all of them have been +0.

Modifiers seem to be relegated to magic/enchanted items.

>>125931154
I think they've done away with non-magic enhancements. If it's nonstandard, it's going to be obvious.

>>125931181
>>125931154
appreciated.

>>125931154
Non-enchanted are either +0 or cursed and negative I think.

>>125889952
it's simply hilarious

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Seems safe enough.

>>125931070
From what I can tell it's bound to be DoomRL without the Doom all over it.

Who knows tho.

>>125931815
that doesn't actually look all that dangerous, it's not going to cast its dangerous spells and it's vulnerable to all your *SLAY*
>>125932072
It's going to be DoomRL themed without the Doom but secretly AliensRL

>>125931815
>>125932428
a good body to steal/mimic though

>>125932428
Dooliens?
Alieoom?

>>125930902
ayy

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First time in over 500 deaths I die of food choking, without warning of overnutrition. I practically won the game

This is beyond bullshit, fuck this, time to savescum.

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Apparently I can't kill anything with heal spells with my mighty 2d6 magic missiles.

>>125933848
nigga you dumb

>>125934063
it's just.. too stupid. I got warned for everytime I overate.

not to mention that unintentionally dying of choking is unrealistic as a mechanic.

>>125934024
Actually it seems rings were nerfed in the latest version, since before your magic missile would go up to 3d6 at level 10 and now it doesn't.

I don't know why, they always seemed on the weak side to me.

>>125934492
>not to mention that unintentionally dying of choking is unrealistic as a mechanic.
NHIRL

>my e-ink tablet pc vanished
NIGGER, WHAT!?

I turn the faggot on and listen to some deet-deets. Read a book. Fully expect batteries to run out.

Not thinking about it. Go to make some munchies and run an errand. Get back, decide to read again and grab batteries. No tablet-pc.

This is some bullshit. I didn't forget the nigger either. Did nothing to my inventory. Think the fucker vanished when the batteries ran out.

And here I was thinking I'd found a 'pipboy' kinda thing cause it has a pokedex and something else.

>>125934948
wut

>>125935321
https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/NHINRL

>>125935458
a certain degree of realism is expected for a game whose motto is "the dev team thinks of everything"

>You have gained the power of 'Shoot Acid'
>have no such ability
W-what has happened to rings

Would a first-person RL still be "kosher?" You know, in the style of one of those first-person dungeon crawlers. Do any exist already?

>>125936014
if you wanna make a game. just make it. decide what genre it is afterward.

>>125936068
Just wanna make sure I have the blessings of the Roguelike Police :^)

>>125936170
>if u wanna make a game
Just do it, faggot.

>>125936014
grafixs are meaningless. make what you want.

having less features like being able to remember where things last where and the layout of the map arguably makes it even more roguelike

>>125936014
if it's turn based and not real time then yes, that's totally a roguelike
but I won't play it because interface fuckery is a crime

>>125936014
Necklace of the eye turns a few rl into first person.
Brogue, ADOM, Hydra Slayer
they're fucking unplayable

>>125936274
>>125936346
You can still implement a map and a compass you know... The only real downside is that it would likely only have 4 directions of movement.

>>125936559
>it would likely only have 4 directions of movement.
What kind of crippling disability do you have where you can't walk diagonally in real life, anon?
The real issue with a first-person roguelike would be getting ganked by shit that's barely visible, hiding around a corner.

>>125936693
>What kind of crippling disability do you have where you can't walk diagonally in real life, anon?

You caught me

I'm actually a Rook

>>125936693
>What kind of crippling disability do you have where you can't walk diagonally in real life, anon?
A wheelchair.
it's tank controls for me

How mad does Beogh get if you blow up his idols?

>>125936693
>ganked by shit that's barely visible, hiding around a corner
But this can happen in normal roguelikes too.

The real issue is having to spin around a lot to see what's around you.

>>125936782
that was deemed baddesign and removed in newer versions

OK since I'm too pissed off to ever play nethack again I'd like to know what to play next

>>125936874
I'm playing .17 and still got smitten for around 70 damage.

>>125937048
CLIVAN

>>125937048
Hydra Slayer

>>125937048
Play Brogue, let it end in brushfire.

>>125937048
What happened anon?

>>125937282
Vehumet pls, try to only burn down one dungeon at a time

Zot doesn't have enough liability insurance to keep paying Rodney for your messes

>>125937383
he choked on my dick

>>125937383
>>125933848

>>125937510
You ate until you choked?
or you just randomly choked after eating?

>>125937282
>let it end in brushfire.
I chuckled.

>>125937718
I was satiated, but I choked on a 200 nutrition object without prior warning when I spend all the game and 500+ prior deaths eating and overeating time and time again.

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>"unchivalrous" attacks are considered an Evil action, not a Chaotic one
Since when has "Good" meant being a gigantic fucking hippie?

Why the hell are orc warriors so strong in DCSS? I had a 30 armor class and a +9 Glaive of Chopping and one still took almost no damage and 3 shotted me.

>>125940016
Creature scaling is all out of wack when it comes to equipment.

Same reason Sigmund's scythe is so dangerous.

Just had my first non-scummy ADOM completion with a gray elven wizard. Feels good, man.
I reached a point where basically every character that manages to save Khelevaster has a good shot at winning the game, unless I make some stupid mistake or get too hotheaded in a greater undead vault.
Came up with a plan that can consistently get my character OP, provided I can reach Khelevaster(spoilers obv.):
1. Start by going directly to the Small Cave
2. Get blanket, ~lvl 6 before proceeding to the dungeon
3. Hope I get an herb level so I can stock up on stomafilia, morgia and malerion. Train willpower, toughness and dexterity as far as herbs can take them- Wi and Dex will get to 25 naturally, To will get to the (low) potential maximum.
4. From HMV, proceed to Terinyo and get puppy&carpenter quests
5. Find altar in either puppy cave or carpenter dungeon. By this point I'm around lvl 14- stock of stomafilia allows me to sacrifice enough enemies to get crowned and post-crowned once. I got lucky and was gifted the robes of resistance(best wizard crowning gift) and the crown of leadership(only random helmet artifact in the game, I think?)
If I didn't get any herb levels before this point, I farm the big room and hope I get an altar in the upper CoC levels.
5. Quickly clear the pyramid, proceed to Dwarftown, do Thrundarr's first 4 quests(careful as fuck in the dwarven halls- previous character died to a great karmic wyrm tension room), get tactics and backstabbing skills from the gladiator.
6. Go to Ice Queen's Domain, get first quest.
7. Shitloads of XP from the quest dungeon, including a guaranteed greater vault with two artifacts. Lucked out here since it was a red dragon vault, and I got fire immunity from my crowning.

>>125941086
8. By this point, my wizard is strong enough to melee the golems guarding Darkforge's second level. I go to Darkforge and get a wish from the pools there, wish for an amulet of life saving, and save Khelevaster. I got two wishes here, so I also asked for spellbooks of Magic Map.
9. Clear water temple, eat snek.
10. Clear tower of flames, eat wyrm.
10. By this point, I'm ~lvl 28 or so. Now I visit the Minotaur Maze. Spam Magic Map and use teleport to make the maze as painless as possible. Get tons of potions of gain attributes from minotaur emperor, as well as a random artifact, potions of cure corruption, and his axe- my main weapon from now on.
11. Eat his corpse, gaining major gainsto both strength and toughness, while losing 8 points of willpower. I then retrain willpower back to 25 using herbs. It is only AT THIS POINT that I use all my stat potions, raising all of my stats by 10 points or so. This is where I visit the Ice Queen and complete her second quest, for more stat gains.
12. Tomb of the High Kings
13. Stash all breakable stuff in the Ice Queen Dungeon, raid the rift and the library, get the librarian's quest. Complete the quests for more scrolls of corruption removal, wear the crown of science, and read all of the books from the library. This trains my learning score by ~4 points which brings it up to ~40. This allows me to very quickly max out every useful skill.

From here, it's pretty straightforward. At this point I have enough corruption removal stuff to safely eat every boss corpse I find(along with the evil unicorn quest, granting ~6 more potions of gain attributes) and get ridiculously overpowered- I was able to kill Molochs and Titans with 2-3 melee hits, in addition to being a great spellcaster. It's all about getting through the early game in one piece, really- I still can't consistently get to the HMV. Maybe it's best to cut that altogether, and start with the puppy cave.

>>125940392
I Kind of feel like dcss might be shit or am i jumping to conclusions?

>>125941323
Try it yourself. Can play webtiles anytime, anywhere.

>>125941441
Ive played it alot, but when i play other rogue likes like angband i die in much less infuriating ways

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>>125941504
If you enjoy it, play it. If not, don't.

Nothin' personal, kid.

not sure if I should convert this to a rising sun. rising sun does less damage and has less tohit without the flames activated

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I am jumping on this meme bandwagon because I crave attention and also I need to get gud and this will help with that

>>125942013
Good luck and godspeed.

>>125941323
DCSS is basically the Civ or SF of roguelikes. Overall extremely mediocre, but people come back to it often due to a combination of being consistent and easy to get into.

>>125935021
Say you have 86 vol, and 86 vol of items. You use multidrop to drop 20 vol of items then drop the messenger bag you were wearing. This can cause items to tumble to the ground. Also, items that stack such as nails, string, thread, medicines and other things, when rolling over to the next volume, can put you over your limit, causing items to tumble to the ground. It's stupid bullshit but >DDA devs

>>125941323
DCSS has its problems but splatting to a speed 10 monster, when it sounds like your character had pretty good gear for the XL, is all on you anon.

>>125943037
Also it has quick development compared to other roguelikes, so it has a relative degree of freshness each time you come back to it.

>>125940016
Protection and damage are still dice rolls. You rolled low, he rolled high. you're also at the point where you don't have the AC for your GDR to amount to jack shit.

>>125943046
I want my pipboy back, anon. It's not fair. I have encrypted SD cards an shit I was training computers specifically to see.

>>125943420
Backtrack,, use items in view filtered for your tablet and you'll find it.

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Reminder that roguelites are garbage and you should never play them.

>>125943046
I seem to remember you used to be able to exceed your maximum volume in those situations and take heavy encumbrance in every slot until you fixed it, which to me is much better that having items suddenly drop out your ass and leaving them behind if you don't notice.

>>125941086
>>125941217
Gunning directly for the Caverns of Chaos and bypassing Terinyo is a weird strategy, but I can understand why people do it.

Doing the quests and getting killed in the Small Cave is too frustrating.

>>125943598
i did too but hey, open source gonna open source. It's really, really fucking annoying when I'm picking up nails. I lost a bunch of shit and spent half a day looking for it until I found it in some coffee shop junk.

>>125943732
The biggest annoyance is that if you're at max volume, you cannot pick up 0 volume objects.

But if you put down the crowbar for a moment, pick everything up, then pick the crowbar(etc) back up, it's fine.

>>125943935
Eat from nearby is kinda nice though so there's that at least. Need to move my forage shit into a cupboard so I'm not spammed with a page of bones and other useless edibles.

>>125943481
Risk of rain isn't even a roguelite though

>>125944285
It literally is.

NetHack 3.6 continues to be ignored. lel

>>125944656
They had like ten years. All they've accomplished was following the trail others made while breaking a bajillion forks.

Does a funnel have to be on the same tile of a vehicle in order for it to fill up a water tank or can it be anywhere on the car?

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Late-night crawlers are succumbing in the bottom floor of depression bump

Came to the wrong dungeon motherfucker edition.

>>125947369
Probably best to find the thingie where it was added for details. That or trial and error.

>>125948092
>thingie where it was added
Wot?

>trial and error
Unfortunately, it's winter right now so I won't know for a while.

>>125948347
May be a moot point since I just threw an error "vehicle not found".

ffs..

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QUESTION: I already got a non-timed bazaar on a previous floor, so does that make this one a mimic?

Also, if I enter a portal, does the timer stop for the other one?

>>125948819
>non-timed bazaar

You mean just a regular shop, because I'm not aware of there ever being non-timed portals

And no, the timer will go on. If you're fast enough you can go to both locations, but you'll need to hurry. Probably want to visit the bazaar first unless you got no money anyway

What does /rlg/ think is the best classic roguelike?

>>125931070

Fuck what is it, when's it gonna be out.

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>>125948614
Unrelated but tractor stuff works and is bretty neat if you setup a forge and get the mechanics to make the plow, seed drill, reaper, and scoop

>>125949046
>You mean just a regular shop, because I'm not aware of there ever being non-timed portals

I didn't notice any messages on entering the floor, and the portal should have been gone by the time I got to it if it was timed.

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>>125948347
>>125948614
Doesn't have to be on the same tile as the tank. Unknown if roofs matter

>>125949487
Moria

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>>125950891
>>125948347
>>125948614
Roofs don't matter apparently

>>125949015
But how many minuses is 15 encumbrance worth?

>>125951220
it's still stealth+++ or something compared against robe

>>125951220
Worse than an FDA, same as a storm dragon armor (Disc of storm spammers mah niggas), less than a plate armor

>>125933848
>time to savescum.

You don't belong here.

>>125941086
>stock of stomafilia allows me to sacrifice enough enemies to get crowned and post-crowned once.
>Herbs get him to 25
Why are you playing a scummy version

>>125951360
remember when disc of storms wouldn't activate if you had rElec
good times
good times

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The dude who posted last thread about playing crawl for the first time just splatted his third character, a MiBe, and went to sleep.
rip

For anyone interested here's the morgue. He managed to find some pretty good items, all without a single trog gift http://underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue/Chilling/morgue-Chilling-20151220-070734.txt

Pic related is the last screenshot I could take of his exploits, didn't manage to take one at death.

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>>125951734
Wrong picture, sorry.

Also, I splatted that ADoM gnome wizard I was posting about hours ago, but forgot to post it here, because there was a mimic inside of dwarftown for some fucking reason. It killed me before I could notice I was getting attacked. I'll post the screenshot in a second.

>>125951035
>>125950891
Based.

>Decided Qazlal had spells that were too weak
>Switch to TSO

At least I get hp and mana for smiting evil.

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>>125951865

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>>125951908
>>125951035
Know how to mark roads on the screen?

Spraycans and permanent markers let me leave messages, but they don't change the color of the tiles at all.

Wouldn't be surprised if it's fine on ascii, but doesn't work with tiles

>>125951695
Playing release 60(1.15.2)

>D12
>run out of arrows
what do

>>125952329
What the fuck is that

>>125952329
m-N-R;H:Home
press enter

>>125953362
You're supposed to poorly hit things with a weapon whenever possible to save ammo until you leave the dungeon with the orb.

>>125954125
No. I want to change the color of the road tiles. I know how to make a note on the map.

It's so I can see where the boundaries on the 6 tile range for crafting is.

>>125954216
Uh. Use paint from the home improvement/hardware store or something if that even works? Never painted shit before.

>>125954305
Yea. That's new to me too.

>>125954305
Scratch that, I bet your tiles doesn't do anything for that anyway. can you find a sprite sheet or something to eyeball the terrain overlays? Maybe the carpet? I dunno man I dunno. Just do like what you did, use skewers or two by fours/splintered wood to mark it out.

Nessos can hit me through scroll of fog? Fuck this game.

>>125954446
Not guaranteed LoS block or something. He's also fast so he can do whatever the fuck he wants

>>125954446
>Nessos is a reference to Nessus, an evil centaur that Heracles killed with a hydra-poisoned arrow after it attempted to rape his wife. It managed to kill Heracles in the process, however, by convincing his wife that Nessus' now-corrosive blood would make Heracles forever faithful to her if she would spread it on his clothing.

What a dumb cunt

>>125954752
>that phrasing
This was written by non-english speakers, wasn't it?

>>125954752
>Can't handle not wetting your club at every crimson faucet you encounter
>Surprised she's so desperate she has no sense left at all

/rlg/, I've played Elona+ whole day yesterday.

Now my pinkie on right hand hurts from hitting keypad enter all the time.

Also I'm feel little bad that I save scummed out of bad dreams all the time.

Do you save scum in elona?

>>125954968
>Greek is not English
hmm.

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>>125929837
Good morning! No bully! Best of luck rlg!

>>125955351
Savescumming is turbo degeneracy. Don't even post here if you're not gonna play it as a roguelike. the bad dreams don't even matter. Cure mutation is cheap. When you invest in magic shops for potential potions, it's not much more to start getting evolution potions to hoard then bless. Fairy hats are common enough on guard targets of an iwantit job that you can get one easily Food based resistances are fucking nothing. You can easily accumulate more as you go and even then, it's only 50 which is fucking nothing once you're investing in the armorer, black market, or really racking up dungeon clears and fame for higher item level loot with better attributes. Just getting an item with ## magic resist making all the food resists obsolete ikind of takes the piss out of it.

>>125943037
Wow you megamidget, you don't get to talk shit about my SF for free like that. "Extremely mediocre", I'll mediocre your face I swear to god.

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>play unarmed troll
>3 weapons with speed brands by d:5
>randart plate on D:7
>scroll of brand weapon on D:8
>just found my 8th scroll of enchant weapon on D:10

Not one fucking cloak or hat, though.

>>125956389
thats nothing, on my troll monk run i found a room in depths that was filled with a selection of the best weapons in the game
namely the legendary dual quickblades, the +13 pain greatsword, the sniper and god knows what else
my feelings were mixed

>>125955351
>feel bad I cheated
As you should, there is literally no point to cheating in elona since literally (literal literally) all damage and poor choices inflicted upon your character can be reversed, generally with low effort.

>>125956389
Why didn't you just switch then senpai? I usually go ghoul monk and level dodge until I see a good weapon then use that. Last game I picked up a venom spear +1 and branded a +4 trident with lightning, shit was cash.

+1 demon trident of draining or +11 trident of speed? just cleared orc, haven't touched lair.

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WERE D BIG RUK @ BOSS?

>>125956724
Never actually done an unarmed run, decided to dick around. Also never tried Qaz so I'm currently having a blast running around fucking shit up with claws and clouds, even if I'm getting fucked on items.

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mmm so glad they removed the NO-BRAINER TEDIUM that was traps & doors mmmmmm love it

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>Well then, I guess i won't be angry no-mo.

>>125956895
draining

>>125957483
>you fall through a shaft for three floors!
>rupert shouts!
>norris shouts!
>wiglaf shouts!
>erolcha shouts!
>the ogre mage shouts (x5)

>>125956895
Uhh, whats the base stats on demon trident and regular one? I always forget but i think demon one should be better

>>125956898
RUKS

>>125957483
A haiku
The shaft crumbles and collapses
Hound come to view
Hound barks

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Where should I setup shop next?

I'm at anvil+esoteric kits tier and have a mobile base but I want a nice location to store inordinate amounts of horded cardboard boxes and aluminum cans.

>try crawl since forever
>no fulsome distillation
>no mountain dwarf
>all weapons butcher corpses
>no priests
the fuck is this shit

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>>125951865
>Splatted with a SDA and that baller ass trident on d:9
>No trogs hand buff when you died, no battle brothers in LoS
>Wasted exp swapping from M&F to polearms
>All that extra exp in fighting that early
>Went to fucking orc instead of lair
Yo, I feel really bad about leaving you with those scrubs. They guided you so poorly. I'm so sorry Chill, you deserved better.

>>125956601
Are quickblade good at late game?
I mean daggers dont do well against armored enemies and quickblades are faster versions of them

>>125958354
QB are ok in the late game. You need a good amount of slaying to really make them work. I've never had the double QB, but they made 2 attacks per swing so I imagine that they're pretty busted with slaying as well.

>>125958354
Depends
A quickblade with electric brand will hit like a truck at least for enemies that aren't resisting electricity

Otherwise you might need slaying

>>125958241
One could fill a dictionary with the full list of things that have been removed since you played.
Wait till you see how they gutted Nemelex Xobeh and made him into a "gains piety on exploration" god.

I just wanted to let you guys know that I'm uploading the raw videos of the 7 rune MuMo win to youtube now.

It's the same video that was streamed for now (meaning no audio commentary yet, please no bully), but I might add commentary later if there's interest and I can find a co-caster or something to keep it interesting because fuck going over 30 hours of video commentary solo.

I'll post a link when the first couple videos are uploaded.

>>125958516
>You need a good amount of slaying to really make them work.
Too bad slaying is pretty much rarer than triple resist rings

>>125959070
Well, I suppose there is a reason why SB crosstrains with LB. Demon blades are way cooler than some scrub tier QB anyway.

>>125959056
You're doing gods work. I'm sad I wasn't able to spectate when you won. Cool tome4 stuff when?

>>125958173
> Where should I setup shop next?

At not shit-tier rogue-like.

>>125959220
>Cool tome4 stuff when
All the time bro. Just use addons.

Someone win madness with skeleton brawler.

>>125959220
I only have one tome4 video recorded so far but there will be an insane win coming soon and probably madness stuff after that.

There's also some old SL1 NG+ dark souls videos that I uploaded a couple of to test youtube settings, so maybe I'll put the rest up too.

>>125959274
>both Implojin and dicku play dark souls
absolutely patrician
and not roguelikes

What helped the mumo guys the most in their runs?

>>125959367
Pillarkiting and stairdancing.

>>125959367
Crutches and shields.

>>125959247
Your input is invaluable.

>>125959351
I'm still impressed by dicks God Hand video. That game is balls to the wall hard and he takes on one of the hardest enemies like it's nothing.

>>125958354
unless you have slaying items or the qb are electric, literally anything else is better

>>125959629
Jesus fuck he wipes the floor with joe.
Jelly as fuck.

I have 15 shield skill

buckler of reflection
or
+2 large shield?

>>125961161
What did you clear so far? I would use reflection just because its broken as shit

>>125961194
I cleared:
Dungeon
Lair
Orc
Snake
currently in Swamp:2

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>>125961161
Have you finished Elf?
If you didn't pop up the Reflection shield and watch those gay wizards get killed by their own crystal spears

>>125961227
If you satisfy the large shield or you are close to it to remove any penalties, then use that one because theres rly nothing much to reflect in swamp

>>125961312
well, large shield requires 25, I have 15
But i noticed that it only takes away 0.1 from my min delay which is sort of weird

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Are you shitting me Trog?

>>125961409
Can't Trog gift distortion weapons?
Why are you wield-iding that shit?

>>125961856
I mean getting gift a goddamn rapier as a Gargoyle
And why would you wanna use distortion anyway?

>>125961905
He means that you might accidentally wield a distortion weapon when you wield a Trog gift.

>>125961905
What the fuck are you on about?
The point is that you don't want a distortion-branded weapon and especially not to wield-id it because unwielding it can banish you.

>>125962006
Ah yeah i just realized that
Actually identified it beforehand

>>125962020
I read it wrong no need to be angry anon
Oh and is it common to see Cyclopses in Orc 4?

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>>125953362
i stayed strong and pressed on, never give up hope anons, every run is a victory run

>>125962129
If you got a giant-heavy end, then yes.

>>125962129
>orc 4
> too soon anon

In Poschengband, what does the Hold life, Free action and Warning attributes do ? Does Regeneration stack ? Can I remove Ancient foul curses from objects ?

>>125962258
>>125962218
Yeah i just realized it was the Ogre orgy version of Orc:4. Luckily Trog's summons are real bros and do all the job for you

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>>125962336
ARE YOU BLOODY SHITTING ME AGAIN TROG

>>125962272
Hold life:exp won't be drained, probably
Free action:no paralyzed status, which will kill you, always get FA as soon as possible
Warning:warns you if you're about to step on a trap or about powerful enemies I think
I don't know if regen stacks
Ancient foul curses can't be removed but they won't prevent you from removing the object.

For more please consult the "?" help file.

>>125962272
Hold life gives you a high chance to prevent XP drain and if you do get drained then that drain is significantly reduced.

Free action grants immunity to paralysis.

Warning does a few things:
>in town it will glow white to alert you to a town npc nearby
>in dungeons it will glow deep red (or maybe pink) to warn you of dangerous enemies nearby
>when you would walk onto a trap it will "pulse sharply" and ask for confirmation before moving
>when you would walk into the threatened area of a dangerous monster (IE their breath/spells/attack can hit you) it will "pulse sharply" and ask for confirmation before moving

It's mostly useful on berserkers since they don't naturally have any way to detect traps and a bad summon trap can and will kill you. Also handy because the area effect of breath spells is kinda hard to understand.

Regeneration does not stack.

Sometimes, you can equip it and ?RC or ?*RC* depending on the level of sticky curse (normal or heavy) and it may remove the AFC. This is almost always not the case though. Obviously permanently cursed AFC items can't be fixed this way.

How many decades until Ultima Ratio Regum becomes playable?

It all looks fancy and promising but holy fuck how long does he expect us to wait?

>>125953362
pick up a sling, shoot infinite stones instead of limited arrows.

>>125963341
I think 1-2 or more or less.

>try pcb
>defeated by the char creation
oh well back to tome

>>125963589
>reinforcing the ">tome players" meme

>>125963774
>implying it's a meme
One swallow does not make summer and one implo does not make a game not casual

>>125964123
Oh anon. You poor poor sod.

>>125964123
>and one implo does not make a game not casual
Yeah but we aren't talking about crawl here

>>125964376
oh snap

"Camelot was a mistake"
-Quote from man encountering Sir Gawain

>>125964585
Gawain isn't even that bad compared to captain manabolt senior "Mordred" guest starring water balls.

>>125964957
Does Mordred summon the other knights though?
Because fighting one knight usually means fighting all.
Thank god for teleport other.

>>125964957
Morgan le 'motherfucking whirlpool your ass' Fae

>>125962442
>>125962672
Thanks a lot anons, I coudn't find anything about that in the help files

>>125965113
Nah, Mordred and his mom can't dump knights on you, but on his own Mordred is insanely dangerous. He follows your teleports and retaliates like Mordred, pokes you with mana bolts like Gawain, and gives you swirlies like his momma.

>>125965441
He doesn't resist teleport does he?
I'd check the spoilers but I can't find Mordred on oook, also the search function there is super shitty in general too.

tabm/BescTcotab

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>>125966012

>>125965675
No. None of the knights do. -TO is pretty much essential to doing Camelot unless you are a roll-over-everything class.

How high up can stat bonuses go on an artifact?

Got +10 INT on a long sword.

>>125966865
maybe state game you very nice person

>>125966865
Don't assume that people know what game you're talking about.

>>125967000
Crawl.

Nice trips.

>>125967095
Can't find a reason why I should right now

>>125967075
They go up to 12 now iirc.

>>125967309
Christmas is almost here.

>>125967328
That's pretty hot.

>>125967309
you don't need a reason, just smile and it will make you feel better. if you can't smile just laugh!

>>125967590
I guess you're right, I should just watch some funny movies or something. Thanks, encouragement anon.

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ALL ORCS LIE DEAD, MURDERED BY MY CHITINOUS FANGS IN THEIR SLEEP

HAHAHAHAHA


That was satisfying.

>>125968516
http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/e/e9/Weav_move_19.mp3
What kind of bug are you running? Spider?

>>125968643
Looks like he's in the Phase Spider phase at hte moment.

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Why can't I ever get it with an early caster?
Too bad I'm a monk with no resists and still lacking see invisible at level 29.

In Poschengband, is the game telling me the description of skills when I try to use them a bug?
If so, is there a way to bypass it?
I only managed to get it to work properly once in a blue moon, and my shieldmaster would really like to have his shield bash skill back...

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oh boy now I need to find red gloves and I'm Saitama

>>125969725
pressing ? switches between browsing and using
you've probably been doing it accidentally/without realizing it

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>>125969725
Make sure you don't have the browse option on from pressing ? as it says at the top in pic related.

>>125970059
Nope, it's in browsing mode despite how many times I press it and what the text says...

>>125970179
I don't know what the fuck is up then.
Most likely you've done something dumb for example with keymaps or macros or it might actually be some bug.
You could check the github if someone else is having the same problem.

>>125970512
I haven't really gotten around to messing with macros/keymaps, so I guess it's a bug.
I'll go check on github.

>>125970512
>>125970661
Wait, never mind, switching to roguelike mode fixes it, so maybe I did mess up something unknowingly...

>>125970780
Usually that's the case if you're having a problem no one else has had.

>>125970860
Yeah, yeah, I probably messed something up...
Oh well, switching to the roguelike keymap whenever I want to use shield bash will just have to do for now.

>>125970780
I had this problem when I macro'd ? to [.
Changing that binding to a keymap solved it.

>>125971037
I didn't set any custom macros or keymaps, so it probably isn't that.

>>125971143
Probably just one of those unlucky sods that has things break the moment you touch them for no discernible reason then.

You could try going into macro settings (on the regular keyset) and trying to unbind keymaps and macros from ?.

Otherwise best of luck, m8.

How hard is forest in PCB?

>>125971540
Lots of hounds. Endboss breathes darkness close to the cap so bring Dark and Blind resistance.

>>125971350
Yeah, stuff like that does tend to happen to me a lot, so I guess that going for the current rather than the stable release was a bad idea...

I also checked the ? key for macros, nope, none. And it isn't really that it doesn't work. I mean, the text says "Use which skill?", so it's in use mode, despite only showing me the descriptions...

Aanyways, I'm happy with just finding the rougelike keymap bypass.

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>>125936014
So Orcs & Elves for DS?

Anyone here tried TomeNET?
It's an MMO fork of MAngband

>>125972731
Yeah, those rune guys we're pretty fun to use.
But I don't recommend going in solo, I got bored pretty quickly.

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>quest floor
>rich the thief
>alberich also shows up
>i had 70 thousand moneys in my pocket

In PCB, does having a sexy personality mean that having pets is impossible?

>>125973525
No, it just aggravates everyone in the level. Which really fucking sucks in the endgame.

Also makes sexy swimsuits drop more often and gives them an AC boost+sustain all abilities.

>white dragon at the end of the Mines
>oh I have cold res, it will go fine
>ded
Man I'm stupid

>>125958301
I told him to look for Lair, he was the one who wanted to go ham and enter Orc. And switching to polearms was clearly the optimal decision given that trident, besides that Mi have good apts for everything and he wasn't at that high of a level in M&F so it doesn't really matter as much. And the fight wasn't expected, he only went up from Orc:3 because he was getting wrecked by Rupert, and he was able to 2-3hitKO Ogres by that point so he got careless.

I've been in Pan so long without finding Cerebov I'm starting to wonder if I accidentally spaced out and missed him. But I don't remember ever getting the warning message. Am I doing something wrong?

>1 of your staff: identify was destroyed
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT HOW MANY TIMES
IM GONNA BUY FUCKING THREE OF EM

>>125975990
No, I once had to do about 70 floors before getting all the rune floors.
Tough titties.

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What do I get if I gather all of them and the one ring?

>>125975990
Pan is an absolute grind and I never do it any more - ten runes is as much of challenge as 15.

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>{zapped: 14}
What the fuck was Eustachio doing?

>>125977710
Enslaving folks I'd assume

>>125976886
You'd have bretty shitty AC, a couple bitching immunities, some OK speed/stealth, and confusion resistance, but not much else

>Hit by a sling bullet for 33 damage

Well I guess pebbles hurt. That's one way to die.

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This is after just quaffing a mut potion. I'll eat every single one without seeing, WITNESS ME

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Why is this allowed

>>125978376
Interesting decisions and non-overpowered items that are not for speedrunners :^)

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>>125978336
Well that was pointless. I only gained two mutations out of it since RNG couldn't decide if it wanted me to have horns or not, but I suppose horns and sharp fingernails isn't that bad.

>>125978481
why is You tend to lose your temper in combat bad again?

>>125978998
I suppose it could be bad if you needed to read or quaff something a emergency, and if I cared about stealth it'd be bad too. But I'm already worshipping fucking Qazlal so that's not my priority.

>>125978998
One of berserk's after-effects is random paralysis.

Can someone post the most recent mumo image? I'm on a cell phone and the old thread won't load

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>>125979336

>>125979442
thanks dicks!
stream when

>>125979521
not dicks, i just saved it last time, sorry

>>125979597
Fug, well have a nice day anon.

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First 15 rune ascension, feels good.

>>125979680
You too m8.

>>125979739
Congratulations!

>>125979739
Good job~

>>125979739
Dear diary, today my friend anonymous did not fuck it up.

>>125979739
Congratulations

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>>125979739
Gz anon!

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Ironically I'd just gotten that mutation that lets you blink at will.
JUST

Our match for the /vg/ league should be on in about 30-40 minutes.
the Twitch channel is the(2^2)chancup

What am I supposed to do with all my money in pcb? Just spend it all enchanting and looking for shit in black markets?

>>125980873
We're playing in the second quarter final against /ssbg/.
Right now /drg/ are facing off against /ksg/, and if we win our game we'll face off against the winner of that one later today.

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>>125980873
also this >>125981005

>>125980897
Pretty much. You can spend large amounts on reforging and the gamble shop, too.

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Am totally Grip guys, even have the collar to prove it.
sadly literally none of the wargs dropped a corpse, so no upgrade for me yet.
Another curious thing, in PCB 3.5 you couldn't level over monster level +5, yet here I am at level 10 with Grip, and he's supposedly only level 2. So yay.

>>125958241
RIP Sludge Elves

>>125981278
Are you doing a canine only run? You might need to hope there was a change because I'm not sure if there is anything between mid-20s and Garm.

>>125981773
I haven't decided yet, I might. Besides there's no really nice 20's corpses, unless I decide to switch to Azog, provided he drops the corpse.

>>125981773
>>125982343
As long as you don't limit yourself just to the C glyph, you still have a few hound flavours to last in the interim.

>>125982663
No, I'm definitely not limiting myself to C, although I guess I'll see what drops and takes me OVER THE EDGE

>elona+ doesn't work
Why even live.

>nethack has crawl-style energy randomization
why

>>125983362
That's backwards in any case.

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>pregnant
fuck

>>125982663
>>125982914
Also I apparently have Huan, the Hound of Valinor on the wanted list.
That's endgame material, but yeah. That's a real longshot.

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Great sign.
>>125983492
We Elona now

>>125983582
Surely it'd be valhalla/ragnarok not elona? I can't think of anything earlier than those.
ib4gorms

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>>125983497
Welp, fuck being Grip with his one attack of 13 damage.
Hunting hawk of julian my new friend. I'm not gonna gimp myself. Also +10 speed, just like Grip.

>>125979442
>berserk orb of fire has a hat
I am so comfy right now.

>>125979442
That font is pretty good

Is playing a class that can't wear a certain equipment slot just a meme?

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Now what?

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Hope you cast lots of neat spells today!

In nethack, what's the maximum amount of times I should search a single spot to see if there's something hidden there?

>>125984672
Might as well finish stronghold since it will be super easy
Labyrinth
Lonely mountain if you have levitation
some town quests

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>>125984960
>labyrinth was already there
Reading's for losers.

>>125983662
what

>>125984824
around 10 or so is safe for most classes. it depends tho

We kicked /ssbg/'s ass 4-1 to play /ksg/ in the semifinal.
This ensures /rlg/ will play in 2 more matches.
Tune into watch we could actually win the whole tournament.

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>[spacebar]
>[spacebar]
>[spacebar]
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>>125984645
No, it's called playing a potentially interesting class and having a higher likelihood of having fun

>>125987214
I'm pretty sure that to him, everything's a meme.

>>125986625
Looks like the Tonberry experience.

>>125987214
>>125987623
Woah there friend, no need to get upset
It's just that every time I play one of those classes I tend to find something real nice that I can't wear

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>>125988060

>>125988060
No matter what character you play in what game you will always find something nice that you can't use.

You just notice it more with equipment limited races.

>>125986028
Excuse me, is this ssbg as in super smash bros?

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Well I guess I'm gonna be Meng Huo now.
I used Mughash to defeat him, but Mughash stopped leveling at 15, so I basically have to make the switch. Mughash though, for being a kobold, had more HP than that. Oh well.

>>125988658
Sounds like super sissy boi gays to me.

>>125988824
Smash it is then! Good.
Ffffuck smash.

>>125988658
yes

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Must be the welcoming party, r-right?

Hounds are so bad but I love them and I don't know why.

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Hmm yes, I see.

>>125990070
PCB traps ain't nothing to fuck with.
At least it didn't summon Morgoth, Lord of Darkness.

>>125985716
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pregnant
>>we elona now
>??
profit

>>125990737
what has valhalla/ragnarok have to do with elona, or pregnancy

>>125990737
Don't you mean:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pregnant
>>we elona now
>??
babby

>>125990876
Let's Ragnarok!

>>125991064
besides that1

>>125991123
Please use proper capitalization and punctuation when posting.
Thank you.

>>125991357
whatever dog

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I sure hope this shop is permanent. It's on D:8.
If I hurry a bit and do Orc early I'm guaranteed to get enough money, right?

>>125992269
>the -3 storm dragon armour of Lost Shekels (*Confuse *Corrode *Contam rF- rC- rElec)

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>>125984645

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>>125992552
Nice.

>>125992269
Shops are permanent
don't bother rushing, just put it on your shopping list

>>125931862
>RECTAL CARPETING
How horrifying!
>skeletal emancipation
Jesus

>>125958173
If you have a vehicle with a motor, just nail wood frames on for wood boxes until you have duct take and some cargo carriers from a flatbed. Otherwise, just cache it locally and mark it on the map. Onoly taking unique tools and other actual valuables back. Seriously, your crap piles don't matter cause they're exactly that. Crap you can get anywhere when you feel the need for a component so just plop it down anywhere, mark it so when can search your map notes for them, and you're good. If you have dynamic npc's on, just go stick it in a room behind some book cases so it's fully out of LoS and board up all the windows and doors

>>125993242
>Skeletal emancipation
THEY WON'T EMANCIPATE ME BONES.

THEY WON'T RATTLE ME BONES.

Infinite or normal dungeon?

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Gee thanks Sonja
This is a death sentence on a vine stalker right?

>>125994439
You can just quaff curing.

>>125994439
not really, that's the only thing your cure potions work for

>>125994439
Curing still cures the poison.

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>>125994536
>>125994554
>>125994579
Blinked near the stairs and quaffed cure, didn't quite work out as for some reason I couldn't go downstairs and she lethally poisoned me again in two turns.

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well i guess this is my life now

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>>125994843
Omae wa no shindeiru

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>>125994843
>>125995036
Now you know not to fight her in the first place.
Often she spawns with a dagger of distortion too which will get you the elven rune.

>>125971678
As a side note, you may have to do the floor a couple times until you've killed off most of the uniques in the spawn range first. also make sure that you skirt shelobs group pretty wide and clear the floor. You may want to skip until you have a rod or staff of teleport thanks to blind. And as always, you'll likely want the couple clarity/healing potions for the stronger healing in a pinch. Once you escape you can slug down all those serious/crit but agaisnt that darkness breath you'll want the good shit if it looks like you're gonna sink.

>>125976112
Get two pips of resist in fire and acid to stop most of it.

We unfortunately lost to /ksg/, but will play against the loser of /ffg/ vs. /kpsg/ in the third-place match.

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Oh boy.

>>125995476
I'm more amazed with the fact that /ksg/ is still a thing