/mbg/ - Mount & Blade General

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reminder

also git gud

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1st for shitters justifying themselves playing 1/4

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>>125817184
Reminder that there is literally no excuse to play on less than max difficulty (that is to say normal difficulty) unless you're disabled or new.

>unique troops in op

good op

Horse users go home.

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>>125817372

>The land of Calradia was once a province in a proud empire,

wait what? I thought Calradia was an empire

xth for my waifu!

xth for my waifu being better than your waifu

>>125817482
Calradia is a continent. The Calradian empire occupied the continent of Calradia.

xth for Lady Nelda

>>125817465
DELETE THIS

xth for my waifu being better than anon's waifu!

>>125817621
Manual states its a province, which is like a state for the US, so the empire must have been bigger than the territory we play. Much bigger

xth for husbando

xth for my husbando > your husbando

xth for your husbando a shit you fag

Ok, this is getting out of hand. Can we all agree that Swadian scum need to be purged?

xth for swadian scum doesn't need to be purged

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>>125817974

>>125818059
Ok, fine. But they are scum?

Getting a bit Monty Python in here.

xth for swadians are not scum and are a very good and nice faction

>REGULAR TROOPS: These people, who you hire from the local tavern, recruit from villages, or rescue from captors, are unfortunately sword fodder. Nameless and faceless, it’s best not to get too attached to these guys (or gals).

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I pity the fool who doesn't invest in high weapon mastery

>>125818103
Give a man a horse and he will be a Swadian for a day. Give a man a spear and he will kill Swadians every day.

>>125818294
>Khergits
>on top
No sieges

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>>125818319
>Give a man a spear and he will kill Swadians every day.

>>125818319
you mean a pike

Has Anon's Modded Tocan's Calradia TM been updated lately?

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Does anyone who plays those chinese russian mods tell me if there's a santa hat item?

We have Madoka and Index assets so I can't believe there's not a santa hat

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>>125818614
Somewhere it does exist

>>125818593
i updated it about 2 days ago

>>125818580
Why would you arm troops with fish anon?

Let's settle this once and for all.

http://strawpoll.me/6304229

>>125817754
Didn't lezalit also say something like if anyone would unite this land of ours I would lead his armies for free and I would conquer also the other old calradian holdings , this would mean that the empire went further than the map from warband.

>>125818707

If you reverse image search that you get car accidents from google

>>125817081
>>Unique troops mod

Sweet, can't wait to try it out.

>>125819753
It's WIP

New blog!

https://www.taleworlds.com/en/Games/Bannerlord/Blog/14

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LONG MAY HE REIGN

Guys, how Do i make my vassals form stronger and bigger armies?
Do i have to donate soldiers to all of them?

Only one guy has over 100 soldiers

>>125820581
land and time

>>125819904
Does that stand for "Work In Progress"? If so, it's cool; I suppose it's easier to contact about bugs of any kind by simply posting here. Other mods would require me to use other ways to contact them, and who knows how long a response would take.

>>125820581

Stop being a socialist and sharing fiefs equally, give your favourite the majority

Alternatively groom one of the noble companions into vassal material

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post kicks

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>>125822089
have some holy cow instead

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>Leave lucrative North Italy for England
>Defeat the Welsh and it starts to seem like a bad idea to do mercenary work here
>Suddenly war with the Gaelic Kingdoms and France
I love war

>>125818279
Not any more.

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man there's literally nothing to do in this mod

>>125823730
You can get dressed up. Isn't Warband all about getting dressed up?

>>125823730
yeah it's not a meme
dunno how you'd make it less boring anyway

>>125827518
More active world map.

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>>125823730
>Playing L'Three Years

>>125827518
even the battles are kinda shit cause the formations and AI is wonky, plus the cav just runs over everyone

What is the most interesting but ultimately most boring mod you've played?
Warsword Conquest here

>>125829168
>3 years
it's amazing how he takes months to release patches that contain literally 30 minutes worth of work and content

>>125829924

Historically accurate button placement

>>125829408

>Warsword will never add vampires

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>>125822654
>spoiler

Whoever played it still has nightmares with pic related

So is being Marshall glitched in warband or am I doing it wrong? Seems like whenever I'm Marshall feasts/weddings won't trigger even if I've told everyone to go home.

>>125831926
Warsword is the vampire, waiting for update is draining my life-force .

>>125829187
pretty sure l'aigle doesn't even have any formations AI
it's just native

Has warsword been updated yet?

>>125833414
>Warsword
>Updating
Give up, man. It's never happening, just like Bannerlord.

So what's this persistent troop identities about?

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>>125833874
Gives all the regular troops in your army a name and other info and tracks their stats over time.

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>>125833874
>>125834198
Also has the option of troops looting gear from the enemies they defeat in battle (can be toggled on/off for all or on only for mercenary troops).

>>125834198
>>125834669

That sounds really neat but also sounds like it has a chance of self-destructing at inopportune times

Does it end up bloating trooplists a lot?

>>125835153
No, the party lists show stacks of troops as per usual, there's a separate interface to see the individual ones.

>>125835153
From what UTanon has said before, the actual troop stacks remain blobbed by unit type.
Accessing the individual bios on the overworld is done through camp menus, and is otherwise tracked somewhat abstractly in an already extant in native data structure in the background.

>>125827518
the worst part of this mod is when your faction declares peace and there's literally nothing you can do

>>125834198
>>125834669
Is it just me or would these lists fit more in reports menu?

>>125831686
it's so historically accurate that france is constantly at war with the confederation of the rhine kek

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>Update notes 2.020:

>Content:
>...
>- Added new animations for hookers.
>Added new animations for hookers.
>Added
>new
>animations for hookers.
>for hookers.
>hookers.

What an age of sail we live in.

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>>125820560
Do you post this on every fucking thead ƒam?

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Cutest claimant!

>>125840543
I'd rather follow Isolla, wonder how old she's supposed to be.

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>>125840543
>Implying

Bastards UNITE!

>>125841482
He looks like he has a mild form of fetal alcohol syndrome.

>>125841794
that might be his original M&B model
if that's from the M&B wiki that's where they got all their images for some reason

>>125841794
He is a Vaegir.

>>125840543
>cute
>kebab
LOL

Why is Richaveg still standing if there's more Sea Raiders than citizens, soldiers and shit?

>>125834198
>Longest range kill: 8 meters with a Crossbow
>8 meters

Not sure whether he's blind or got some guts of steel

>>125844864
I never see that many sea raiders, but you answered your own question, Richaveg.

>>125817210
>>125817289

tfw still playing 1/4th/

TIME TO GET GUD

I wish controlling my army was easier
Tired of the stupid straight line of faggots turning to face the enemy

>>125846393
There comes a point when you need to sit back and command. You prove yourself earlier, now you need to prove your army.

>>125846393
>He doesn't play a mod with PBOD
>He doesn't know about holding F1

>>125840543
she is used goods m8

>Accompanying someone
>Run into a larger force
>The person I'm accompanying runs away faster than I can keep up
>I get challenged to fight two parties at once since they got sucked in, while the person I was accompanying fled
>Leave some troops behind and follow my friend's footsteps
>"DUDE I HEARD YOU FLED LIKE A BITCH"

>>125848325
If I could attack anyone I wanted, I would risk it all to wipe the smug look off their face

>>125848325
git pathfinding

ded

How the fuck do you Crouch Lance? I've never done it. Do you just go fast? Because I've ran at full speed for five seconds and still haven't gotten it. Are you not supposed to hold back the lance while charging? I don't see why not. I don't know what I'm doing wrong and there's nothing ingame telling me how to do it.

>>125852975
>I don't see why not
Because it's wrong, you initially. Just have the lance equipped and move at a gallop, if your settings are set to easy lancing.

>>125852975
Press X

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Just looted a Spanish plantation.

Going past 0 inventory manegment might be worth it to carry all this oot.

YO HO HO.

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>>125853695
>free the slaves

Aw shit we tribal warriors now.

To bad they don't have the Superior Warband command system. I would assign these guys to my Fodder regiment.

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>>125852975
Like this.

>>125834198
>>125834669
any luck with the integration into other mods?

>>125854198
Still trying to fix bugs before I start that. Progress has slowed since fixing one bug with horses just caused more bugs and I'm having to retrace my steps and figure out where the fuck things went wrong. Modding can be a real drag sometimes.

>>125854346
let me know as soon as its bug-testable (1257/warsword/etc anon here to help)

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ayy

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>>125855076
>playing as a girl

So lemme get this straight. If I want to have more than 100 guys in my warband in War in the World of Magic I have to become a vassal?

What the fuck is that shit?

>400 (20 in Warband, 300+ in allies) Versus 80
>Get knocked out
>Get taken prisoner
I'm sorry what

>>125858268
Install diplomacy, pretty sure it has battle continuation when you get KO'd. It's also save compatible with native.

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pls r8

>>125858594
Pimping

>>125858594
Fall over and break your arm, -1 strength/10

>>125858594
7/10 would recruit as companion

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>tfw had a lapse of judgement and read the leadership book before maxing out leadership naturally

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D

A

N

Is there a mod that allows me to garrison troops and store items in my manor at my village?

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Hey, /mbg/. I have a weird issue with my native game.

You know how when you turn your mouse, the character turns with it, right?

Well, for some reason if I'm standing still and move my mouse, my character stays still and I can rotate the camera around as if I was using the view outfit key.

I don't know when this started happening, but it's sort of annoying. It makes movement feel really sluggish for me.

>>125839713
Gotta believe in my liege
not like it's hard at the speed /mbg/ moves anyway

>>125866958
It's just a third person thing.

>>125865853
Kind of in 1257? You can store items in your manor, when that manor spawns a castle you can store troops there.

>>125866958
That's normal... Did it take you this long to realise?

>>125818294
>khergits
>based
>sarranids
>based
hahahaha
hahaha
haha
hah

>>125860556
there's nothing wrong with doing that, the added bonus is on top of your natural leadership level

>>125870335
With some books that is the case, but the leadership book is a permanent +1

>>125818294
>not playing exclusively as Brodoks

>>125870582
exactly. your natural leadership is, say, 5, but with the book it's 6, you will ugrade to naturally 6 with the same charisma requirement as it would to upgrade it to 6, but after doing so it'll be 7 thanks to the book.

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1866 anon here again. Didn't have very much success hosting yesterday, but maybe we can gather a few people from the EU now.

Download for 1866 here:
http://www.mbrepository.com/file.php?id=2327

Server is called "Tombstone_EU". Give it some time to appear, it should be last in the list.

>>125870723
No, whether or not you have the bonus from the book you need 18 cha to get 6 leadership.

You would be correct if the book gave the bonus from being in your inventory, as with the Trainer book for instance, but it's simply not the case with the leadership bonus. It's a permanent bonus indistinguishable from having invested a point in it yourself through the character screen.

My character for instance has 27 cha and 9 leadership, with one of those leadership points from the book. I can not get 10 leadership without getting 30 cha.

>>125870603
>Playing as Rhocucks
I don't like to hide

>>125870920
comin

>>125870956
a-are you sure?

le sigh

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>>125871984
>le sigh

Any purpose to light cavalry, light cavalry being non-archer, non-armored horses

>>125876018
Not really, if we're talking AI anyway.
Mildly more effective than heavy cavalry at getting into flanking position and hunting down routers.

>>125876172
How about non-shield carrying infantry, they're 100% dead in sieges right?

>>125878839
2 handers will always tear shit up once they get there but gardening duty is generally your job

>>125878839
They're going to die before you know it if you send them to the frontline, but as >>125879028 mentioned, they can be deadly if you keep them protected until you manage to break through. Though keeping too many of them can prevent reinforcements from occuring.

>>125858594
What mod?

Scrub here, never played anything but Vanilla warband.

Recommend me a 10/10 A++ mod that will make the game objectively better in every way.

>>125882836
Diplomacy

Not Floris because it breaks balance, makes shit look gloomy and you cannot choose which of the modules you want from it.

>>125882836
Floris is a good first ''overhaul'' mod. Then there's in my opinion Silverstag, but it completely changes how the troop system works, everything else remain more or less like it is in Vanilla though. So less changes on other fronts compared to Floris, but changes troop system completely.

>>125882836
Doesn't exist desu
Gekokujo, 1257 ad and Brytenwalda are some fun and generally well made SP mods. Brytenwalda is a bit controversial though.

They are total conversion mods though so you get a very different experience from vanilla, what the other posters are recommending are minor improvements (Diplomacy) and somewhat questionable overhauls (Floris, Silverstag)

>>125882836
You could also try PoP, but it definitely is not for everyone.

>>125882836
Prophesy of Pendor
if you like your ass handed to you that is

>>125884817
>floris

>>125882836
Gekokujo.
Make sure to play with manual blocking.

>>125885827
to be honest Geko is buggy even in the current state to be called 10/10

>>125885959
Yeah but it will make him better in melee.

>>125855374
>not fucking the patriarchy in the year of our lord 1257
>not becoming warrior-queen of calradia
>not being incredibly fucking kawaii desu senpai

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so I have a gunner, how to give him cannon?
Because he appeared at the battlefield assigned to infantry group

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dat capture the mine quest is pretty intense t.b.h.

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Would it be possible to make an army entirely made up of captured prisoners that you convinced to join?

What would be the pros and cons of this?
Does the persuasion skill affect your chances of converting prisoners into your party?

>>125888007
They would all ditch you before you got 50 men

>>125888007
cons
>you take a morale hit every time you recruit
>can only recruit once every 24h with a chance to fail
>they have a chance of running away the next day

pros
>you don't have to pay recruitment costs
>you can recruit units you normally couldn't

I don't think that's feasible, and only use the prisoner recruitment if a mod has some rare powerful units (say Balrogs in Phantasy Caladria), but maybe you could give it a try as some sort of challenge I guess?

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help, help
I'm being chased by a guy with a drum

Using Morgh's to make a Native troop that uses gun(s) is this a good or bad idea?

>>125886834
I think you can only get them from towns with cannon foundries.

>>125889491
yeah, got that covered
still he appars on the field with no gun
maybe the "battery command" skill is not really a party one despite being labeled so?

What's the difference between Caribbean and Blood and Gold?

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>>125888007
>Does the persuasion skill affect your chances of converting prisoners into your party?

It does, and it can be tweaked. Pic related.

>>125891690
Blood and Gold is basically an updated version

Caribbean isn't even sold anymore

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>if you bombard the wall with your ship then retreat and besiege from land the holes you've made stay there
holly shit, goty

I'm new to the series.

>Should I buy the Mount & Blade bundle/which game(s) should I play?
>Probably just get Warband; it's undisputedly the best game in the series and basically an expansion of the original game. There are some mods that are exclusive to original M&B, but you can get that for free if you own Warband (see bottom of pastebin). WFAS a shit

So... is it any value in play the original M&B? Learn the mechanics? more easy to learn for a noobie?

>>125892349
>any value in play the original M&B?
The only reason the play the original is for some mods that never got ported to Warband. You should just get Warband.

>>125892349
Warband bruh
The only value of M&B is some mods that haven't been ported, like 1866 singleplayer. But iirc you get M&B for free if you buy Warband anyway.

>>125892349
you get original m&b if you get warband with same serial

Just play warband, original is worth only for few mods that were never ported like Gangs of Glasgow, starwars and 1866

>>125892465
>>125892569
>>125892539

Thanks.

>>125891994
Ah, gotcha.

Bought Caribbean ages ago and never bothered to install it. Decided to give it a shot today and noticed I had Blood and Gold too.

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uh?

>>125858594
Dacian/10

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What skills do you want to get up to 14(10+4) as an int character? Surgery is obvious, but what else? Is Tactics as good as some people say?

>>125893786
>Is Tactics as good as some people say?

Yes.

Even if you're a great commander with top tier troops, shit tactics can really fuck you if you get outnumbered. It makes keeping a small force of elite troops a viable option.

>>125818725
Is there a different link to it somewhere? The link in OP says it was updated on the 10th.

>>125893640
SURRENDER ! IT'S A TRAP !

Do you think Jeremus would be mad if he knew I sell the looters he knocks out into slavery?

>>125894929
That is called justice though

>>125895373
Only in your disturbed world.

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What difficulty do you play and why?

>>125897617
150% something because i need to compensate for my small penis

Can vassals from a defeated faction still get ransomed?

>>125897770
This, except it's that after years of playing there'd be no point of playing on easier.

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>>125897617
Normal

>>125898117
what does combat speed even do?

>>125898451
swing times

>>125896664
>be criminal
>get punished

How is that disturbed? If I sold good folk to slavery that would be fucked yea

anyway stfu pvp me faget

>>125897617
Easy becouse I'm a fagget.

>>125898117
This, but I never bothered changing combat speed.

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Threadly reminder that Int/Cha is the optimal build in any mod that uses Diplomacy.

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>go to the city owned by my wife
>she left me 69 prisoners as a gift
ohh you naughty girl

>>125898117
What does Lance Control do? I don't recall.

>>125897617
I'm a newfag who keeps getting beaten, kidnapped, and set loose into hordes of 40 Sea Raider parties that I have to deal with singlehandedly, so 40%.

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>>125900057
most definitely appreciated

few months ago I heard that AD1257 isn't very good for king run.
Is that true?

Is there any reason I should choose to not use my horse in field battles? I'm wondering how good athletics is, after seeing

>>125900731
Yes, it's true.

>>125901025
Variety, and I find infantry combat to be more satisfying.

>>125901025
Personally, I mostly fight with my horse. But sometime I just like fighting alongside my men and trying to protect them

>>125900731
You just need to take a look at the map. It can be fun for anyone who likes the challenge, but I can imagine the headache.

>>125897617
I jack up the difficulty for enemy competence, but I always keep my damage at 1/4th because I always feel it's the most realistic option, although I wish I could do the same for allied troops and enemies. Shit dies way too easy in Warband- being able to two-shot fully armored knights with a fucking sword is a special kind of bullshit.

>>125900235
m8 you not playing it right. You avoid the sea raiders, the campaign map is on pause by default for a reason

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>>125897617

>>125900057
Which mod is that?

>>125901971
blood and gold: caribbean

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>>125898814
It's a good thing you'll only ever be in a position to exact your Harlaus tier "justice" in the context of a video game.

For the next thread, someone should just add to the OP, in all caps: "IF IT HAS PIRATES, IT'S PROBABLY CARIBBEAN"

>>125902097
i didnt read any argument so you are probably shit posting

and a pussy who cant accept challenge

>>125900109
Apparently the difference between manual and manual hard is that on hard your couch fades after a moment, while not on hard it keeps going as long as you keep going

And then there's automatic that couches it for you

>>125902073
Danke, downloading.

>>125899807
>Play Silverstag.
>Spend Emblems in Attribute and Skill points.
>Fill every hole of Tomoko's body with your love-fluids.
>???
>Profit!

>>125894157
i thought it was only 2 days ago
that is the most up to date version then, since it's the only link i use

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>he doesn't make his own sperg mods mimicing dark souls meme emotes

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>3 kershit horsefucker armies heading for my friend's army
>intervene when the first kershits, naturally the smallest and fastest, attack him, allowing us to gain a victory even though we would have almost certainly lost against all 3
>ally lord reinforces his army with prisoners from the defeated kershits
>with his new found strength we take on the second sarranid army
>after that we have enough men to take on the last and slowest big army

Is increasing battle size with a mod worth it or does it just fuck up your game balance and framerate?

>>125907357
It does naturally affect the game balance a bit

I think it's worth it for the fun factor though, framerate depends on your rig though iirc most people seem to hit a wall around 500 300 or somewhere around there

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>tfw editing character to have over 100 STR

>>125907552
when you get to a point it'll run like shit no matter the speccs

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>>125901926
>1000

And here I am, wishing my pc could run at least 300

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>decide to loot a sarranid village because I'm at war and low on gold
>find this

How and why

>>125907703
If you have 999 aglity, looter kill you from a single hit.

>>125908128
MEMES

>>125908128
Floris.
Get the butter patch if you want to stop looting Harlaus' secret stash.

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>>125908128
PRAISE IT

>>125907703
Strength only gives you hitpoints though

unless you also got a shitload of powerstrike

>>125908460
Every point of Strenght increases your melee attacks by 1%, too.

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>>125908128
Welcome to the club

>>125908749
>Bread only

On the bright side, that sure saved your party from starvation

>>125882836
Swede Mayo, assuming you don't mind a challenging early game.

>>125909091
What the fuck is Swede Mayo?

>>125909436
SUVANARBUHUUMI MAYAHATUSHITSTY

>>125908238
MEMES JACK

>>125907703
does that affect kicks

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>>125910843
holy shit it does

>>125912431
Now learn to couch your legs for Couched Kick Damage 1000 damage

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>>125912431
time for some anime bullshit

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>>125908128
>2015
>not knowing about the butter bug in floris

So for Tocan's do the new companions have likes/dislikes? Or can I just recruit fucking everyone?

What does anon's modded tocan's add? And is it standalone?

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who here /skaven/

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>they've added a tit grabbing animation
now that's some attention to detail

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>>125912431
so i went on my way of the sword mod and removed the Y lock for the punching animations, so you can properly aim all 4 directions now
holy shit this is hilarious, you can punch horses to death
>>125914895
>So for Tocan's do the new companions have likes/dislikes?
i think they all use the same follower base, klethi IIRC
so whatever klethi's likes/dislikes with native companions, but the new followers should work together fine
>What does anon's modded tocan's add?
i added 500 more weapons, more troops for each tree and more standardized troop tiers while each faction still has strengths and weaknesses, overhauled weapon and armor balance (tried to make it so there is no "best" weapon), got stuff like upstab, 1h upstab, crouching, pike bracing, a sling, a flail, a gonne, a hand crossbow, halfswording, mordhau
>And is it standalone?
yeah

>>125907194
>3 kershit horsefucker armies
>we take on the second sarranid army

Das racis whitey

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>fighting some bandits
>beat first wave
>second wave
>70 vs 1
>1!!!!!!
>I could beat in one shot from my bow
>lets auto solve then
>2 veteran crossbowmen die
>70 vs 1
>1!!!!!!!
>scarred bandit, whose weapon is a shitty one armed sword and some rocks

>>125916413
Whoops, meant the second kershit army

>>125916486
>use auto calc
>shit pours from my eyes
>my mum is my dad
>chcicken nuggers and sweer potato with butter

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>>125901824
>I always keep my damage at 1/4th because I always feel it's the most realistic option

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>tfw i keep my damage 1/4th because i like to be the protagonist

Its a single player game, i dont gotta prove myself to you people

>>125916486
The best is a Lord with 0% hp looting my fiefs by himself. I have to load the battle and wait for it to confirm my victory, or else I'll lose several people.

I've not done modded aside from removing the follower argument bullshit. I'm pissed that the story mode has locked out of bringing more than 30 people to things. I had to lower the difficulty because my character build was focused on amassing a navy, not building a small elite force like I apparently needed to.

>>125912590
>Put STR and AGI both at 1000 with 10 in every skill
>Go into battle
>Activate slow motion with ctrl+F9
>Enjoy Mount & Blade: Smallville edition

>>125914975
I would, but Tweakbro never finished adjusting them.

>>125917786
I sort of agree, I just have more fun getting KO'd by a random arrow when I am trying to be bad ass. It makes me laugh.

>>125918230
>I just have more fun getting KO'd by a random arrow when I am trying to be bad ass.
>being this much of a fucking casual
i can't believe i share the internet with this sort of people

>>125917883
>Mamluk Sultanate destroyed
>Somehow one of their lords with 0% health and 0 troops is raiding villages north of Acre

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>>125901824
>but I always keep my damage at 1/4th because I always feel it's the most realistic option
being impervious to everything is realistic?

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>>125918489
If you didn't comprehend, I was stating why I play on harder difficulty, random KO's are funny. I also play infantry with a 2 handed weapon. Nothing casual about standing in the shield wall with a 2h wep as a horsefucker charge is incoming. Of course, I am sure your horse cock rides you far away from danger. Fucking Stuart.

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>>125916486
>Using autocalc
>Ever

>>125919112
holy shit

>>125907703
i love those little spins that sometimes happen (at 0:08), makes me feel badass

Is it stable to use Unique troops mod with other mods or at least Diplomacy yet?

>>125919112
>swadians
seems accurate

>>125919785
The version that's up already has Diplomacy, it's still pretty buggy though. Will combine it with more mods when it's more stable.

>>125919785
if possible, combining it with the brainy bots mod would be great, that way your troops will actually try to block more than 1/8 of the time

Any mods that automatically include a title befitting your rank to your name?

>>125921396
No.

>>125917289
So you think it's realistic to get sniped by shortbows despite wearing maille armor, and Knights in the Crusades looked like porcupines because of all the arrow shafts sticking out of their backs?

Protip, not even against a naked human being will a sword kill instantly unless by some magical means you manage to land a decapitating strike. Damage in Warband is simply ridiculous and needs to be massively tuned down, with a bleeding mechanic added.

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>>125919112
>Swadian """"""""""knights"""""""""" are so weak and pathetic that they lose to a gang of murder hobos

Being a Swadian is losing the lottery of life. If you're a Swadian just kill yourself because there's no point in living.

>>125921606
Tell that to the Nords who I always BTFO as Swadia whenever I become marshal, exterminating them in a single campaign.

>>125921606
Like the other factions are any better.
>Rhocucks were too busy hiding to fight
>Khershits kept running
>Vaegirs who?
>Sarrainds had the same end but in sand
>Nords shitted throwing weapons all over the looters

>>125921494
So YOU think it's realistic if everybody else dies that easily but the player magically has 4 times as much resistance to damage and you're basically playing Dynasty Warriors?

>>125921494
>Knights in the Crusades looked like porcupines because of all the arrow shafts sticking out of their backs?
actually since arrows penetrated the mail but didn't get any further, that happened
they'd be perfectly fine since the arrows got stuck in the mail
>Protip, not even against a naked human being will a sword kill instantly
only time you can get one shot in warband with a sword is if somebody has very high powerstrike, or it's against someone with 0 armor and they're moving/on horseback moving
>Damage in Warband is simply ridiculous
no it isn't
change the RCM values to something like 1257 instead
>with a bleeding mechanic added.
this is garbage, play VC with this enabled and you'll find out why

>>125921842
What happens to Swadia without player intervention? They have a bad time.

>>125921494
Have you ever had a serious injury, adrenaline only goes so far.

>>125922091
It's better that at least somebody is REMOTELY durable as a historical knight than absolutely nobody.

>>125922098
>actually since arrows penetrated the mail but didn't get any further, that happened
they'd be perfectly fine since the arrows got stuck in the mail

That was my point.

>
only time you can get one shot in warband with a sword is if somebody has very high powerstrike, or it's against someone with 0 armor and they're moving/on horseback moving

Which shouldn't be possible, period. The only thing that should be capable of one-shotting even a butt naked human being with no armor is a polearm or a couched lance on a charging destrier. Otherwise even a thrust clean through a human being won't instantly kill, and they'll be able to fight for a couple more seconds before falling over and dying. Hell even early firearms wouldn't necessarily instantly kill either.

>change the RCM values to something like 1257 instead

How do you do this.

>this is garbage, play VC with this enabled and you'll find out why

It's better than people just falling over and collapsing from single strikes.

>>125922331
Tell that to Knights in the Middle Ages who would simply power through shit their armor would reduce to minor fleshwounds. Or even guys getting horrible wounds still fighting on and giving zero fucks. That WWII GI who got his arm blown off but fought off an entire Jap platoon jumps to mind too, although that's the modern period.

>>125922914
You need to separate reality from fantasy. You think that is normal? Or is it an amazing event that is remembered?

>>125922745
>Which shouldn't be possible, period.
>buh muh realism
makes for shitty balance, why bother using a sword at all then
>How do you do this.
module.ini, cntrl f RCM
>It's better than people just falling over and collapsing from single strikes.
you haven't played with it enabled
it's trash

>>125922745
>M&B is a simulator
M&B is a game and the normal damage values are balanced. You are a scrub. This is objective fact.

>>125923193
>makes for shitty balance, why bother using a sword at all then

Like in real life, you half-sword against people or use the quillons as an improvised mace. Alternatively you just carry a longsword to kill unwashed peasant fodder and a horseman's hammer to deal with enemy knights. Or if earlier, such as the 13th century, you basically hammer the bony areas of the body to exploit the weakness of maille not absorbing energy that well.

>>125923940
Balance is absolutely the worst thing in any historic set videogame.

>>125924293
what

>>125924162
>make gameplay complicated in a way unsuited for the engine (switching sword grips, wrestling) so as to render a romanticized weapon of the nobility "realistically" ineffective
>rather than just making the weapon fairly useful within the game's limitations
Sure, the effective penetration for cutting weapons is pretty high, but M&B doesn't make a contrast between different kinds of cutting, so the choice seems to be strong swords or weak polearms, and frankly nigga, there's not enough love for polearms as it stands.

>>125924293
Good thing this is a work of fiction.

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>>125924293
>Balance is absolutely the worst thing in any historic set videogame.

I share a general with people like this.

>>125924162
swords excel at being fast, parrying well, and killing lightly armored targets well, making them shit against everything but "peasants" is moronic
>Or if earlier, such as the 13th century, you basically hammer the bony areas of the body to exploit the weakness of maille not absorbing energy that well.
no, you'd use a spear, an axe, a mace, or stab with a sword
mail absorbs hits well enough and makes slashing effectively useless but it's shit against thrusts, axes can do an ok job against it, and maces still work well since blunt weapons are pretty consistent across the board

>>125924293
M8, it's a game. A game without balance is worthless.

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abhor the shitter and the newfag, my brothers

>>125924950
Board wars are for cunts. Just call a faggot a faggot, I don't care if he associates with a specific board. Fucking immature bullshit. Let's stick to calling each other horse fucker.

>>125924293
you're an idiot

>>125925191
>horse fucker

>>125915827
Neat. Downloading now.

>>125925826
i didn't actually update it yet with this but i will soon

>>125925508
Did the sarcasm pass over your head?

How to Sarranid in Floris? I feel like killing infidels.

>>125926887
Well, anon, how much do you know about bombs?

>>125924794
No it isn't, balance is only good for competitive games like eSports, realism is a far better thing to strive for, as with it comes extreme difficulty. Imagine a Mount and Blade Game with simulated armor mechanics, half swording, grapple moves, and useful bollock daggers. Permadeath too. Family trees. Children that grow and take over. Politicking. Plagues. Evolving kingdoms.

Oh dear, it appears my penis is lifting the table.

>>125927095
>Permadeath too. Family trees. Children that grow and take over. Politicking. Plagues. Evolving kingdoms.

I play games to get a break from real life.

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>>125927095
>No it isn't, balance is only good for competitive games like eSports

>>125927095
With extreme realism comes balance.

>>125926523
>sarcasm

>>125927095
>Imagine a Mount and Blade Game with simulated armor mechanics, half swording, grapple moves, and useful bollock daggers. Permadeath too. Family trees. Children that grow and take over. Politicking. Plagues. Evolving kingdoms.
That all sounds great, but just because a game is more complex doesn't make it inherently better or more fun.

M&B has a multiplayer (and is therefore a competitive experience) feature so it requires certain balance to make it a fair experience for everyone.

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>>125927095
>balance is only good for competitive games like eSports

Please stop. A lot of what you've said you want is actually the same stuff I want, but don't fucking pair it with this retarded statement as if the two are connected. Just accept that you said something dumb. I want games to go more in the direction of simulation as well, but FUN simulation, not hyper-realistic "you left your filthy peasant mudhut to start an adventure but stepped on something sharp and quickly died of infection" simulation.

>>125927685
The multiplayer can always be made a separate module with different stats to accommodate to fantastical fights where swords cleave through armor like it isn't even there and archers matter at all in a 20v20 battle.

>>125927905
Not that of course, but give the player the option to start out as various degrees of nobility like Crusader Kings, only with the added option of starting out as a shitstain villein for Joan of Arc level of difficulty.

>>125928289
How effective was armour really? I am ignorant to this.

>>125927095
Realism also excludes females from soldiering or commanding, along with physical limitations with no discernible advantages. Why would I want that?

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>filthy sand people so stupid they attack a castle alone

>>125928920
Time for auto calc bravery.

>>125928561
depends on the armor obviously, and the quality of the armor
but generally gambesons are pretty good at absorbing blows which is why they were worn under heavier armors, since they acted like padding, but they were more vulnerable to sword slashes, axes, and spears, they weren't usually used in hot climates because it'd be like wearing loads of layers of clothes in a desert
mail is pretty good, it's decently light, it breathes so overheating isn't an issue and it can be worn in hotter climates, it protects well against slashing but it's really vulnerable to spears
lamellar offered generally better protection than mail, protects a lot better against axes and spears, but it's much heavier, has overheating issues, and wasn't really used in europe
plate is great at protecting against just about anything, but having a visor down meant you couldn't see shit, the heaviest armor at approx 25kg (60lbs~) for a full suit, and was a bitch to transport unlike mail

each armor has advantages and disadvantages, best we can do in warband currently is just make more protective armors heavier

>>125928561
(assuming plate)
Well against bladed weapons, a sword will literally do nothing to a man in plate armor unless manipulated by half swording (grabbing the middle of the blade with your hand) to thrust it into a tiny gap. The main two ways to defeat plate armor is to either get a fuckload of force from something like a hammer with a lot of weight on it, and basically trying to concuss the man in it to death. The other way is to get something with a very fine point, such as a pick on a bec de corbin, and driving it into the plate armor with enough energy to punch through the armor like driving a sturdy knife through a crab.

But to defeat it, you generally need two-handed specialist weapons, hence their rise to prominence as plate armor became common in the Late Middle Ages and Early Modern Era.

>>125929113
This anon is full of shit, maille is much heavier than plate on the body, both in terms of mass and physical strain.

>>125927095
Once again, M&B is not a simulator and with the way the combat works right now most or none of the shit you mentioned is even possible.

>>125929307
>This anon is full of shit, maille is much heavier than plate on the body, both in terms of mass and physical strain.
you're arguing rings with holes in them weigh more than pieces of plate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYpFtVQlgLc

>>125929606
>rings with holes in them

>>125929606
A full hauberk weights anywhere from 60-70 pounds you troll. Those rings weigh a fucking lot considering there's thousands of them for a full suit of armor, whereas plate is comparatively light as its weight is distributed across the body instead of the shoulders like maille, and is extremely thin.

>>125930054
>A full hauberk weights anywhere from 60-70 pounds you troll
you gunna post source or you gunna shitpost?
>whereas plate is comparatively light as its weight is distributed across the body instead of the shoulders like maille
>solid pieces of metal weigh less that rings
so do the laws of physics just not apply to plate armor?
i hope you know putting a belt on a hauberk effectively halves the weight
>and is extremely thin.
oh you are shitposting

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Is Perisno shit lads? Played Swedish Mayo and a fuckload of other mods and looking for something new.

I got a choice between b&s, Perisno, or a clash of kings. Which one?

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>>125929606
>rings with holes in them

>>125928561
Cloth is better than you think, but still not great.
Leather is pretty shit against dedicated weapons, but it works.
Mail used to be the GOAT. Completely blocks slashes, is flexible and comfortable (as far as armor goes), easy to repair, and still holds up to most pointy things better than leather does. Generally was either pierced or crushed through (see: flanged mace, axes)
Lamellar was pretty good. Behaves similarly to Mail in a lot of ways, but fell out of favor because of reasons. Was a bit more protective on the whole, especially as the greeks kept innovating its construction. Everyone besides the chinese and japanese preferred mail once they learned about it, and the Byzantines wore both just because.
Plate is the true GOAT. Properly made and fitted plate will defend against everything capably. Most combat tactics against plate equipped enemies involve getting around the plate rather than through it. Blunt weapons were effective for deforming the armor, but still had a hard time penetrating for damage. Problem with full suits is that actually getting into the damn things is a hassle, and good full helms weren't really invented until the renaissance when guns had become advanced enough to pose a direct threat.

>>125930054
I'd like to see a source on that. Most -hauberks- I've seen didn't break 30lbs, and often were less than that. Now, if you're including a full kit, helmet leggings and all, I could see 50-60 lbs.

>>all on the shoulders
>not wearing a belt and fitting your mail
What are you, a scavenger?

>>125930261
Play B&S. Persino won't feel good after playing Swede Mayo.

>>125930261
Perisno is good, but starts off SUPER BRUTALLY HARD with massive several hundred parties running around the map attacking everybody, but rapidly switches and becomes SUPER easy when you get the ball rolling as a lord. It's also broken, with the in-game stat boosts sometimes not going away, so I've ended up with a character having 64 agility at level 20.

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>>125930505
B&S just kind of looks boring to me because it's basicall revamped vanilla. I guess I haven't toyed around with the vanilla factions in a while but still...

>>125930505
I'm talking about full kit of armor, full knightly hauberk going down to the thighs, parted, sleeved, mitts, coif, chausses, etc. Judging a hauberk by itself is comparable to just judging plate armor armor by the breastplate and faulds.

Anyone hyped for the new Pendor update in a couple days?

>>125931007
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hauberk
don't use words if you don't know what they mean
>somehow adding sleeves, chausse, mittens, and a coif adds another 30lbs

>>125930967
Sorry, I derped and conflated Blood&Steel with Blood&Gold.
Play Blood&Gold.

That, or play something else for a while until Unique Troops anon rounds out all the major bugs, and grab either the base package or the Silverstag conversion.

>>125931185
What does it add?

>>125931687
https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,342519.0.html

It seems like small stuff except for new spawns and factional type things.

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>>125933029

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Holy shit, when Bannerlord comes out the PoP team actually want to make PoP either a paid DLC or a standalone game using the Bannerlord engine like Carribean! or something. Post yfw.

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>only bought M&B so I could play the GoT mod
>love it at first
>slowly disillusioned by Cozur's faggotry
>want to learn how to edit the mod to my liking

I've only started with simple tweaks, like changing up item attributes, making throwing weapons not garbage, replacing music tracks. I'd like to do other things, like add in elephant mounts for Volantene nobles (it's canon for them to ride one) and remove or change the random events. Right now I'm trying to get into Morgh's but every time I open it gives an error 'Missing module_items.py'. How do I get past this?

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>>125934480
They think their shitty mod is worth anything?

>>125934480
>tell people not to play Prophesy of Painal on the subreddit
>get downvoted to oblivion

I thought people liked that mod as some sort of meme, like people who worship Bane and CIA

>>125935032
It's a big mod.

Horrible lore aside Pendor is a fun mod.

I enjoy it sorry m8s

>>125935132
please don't do this

>>125935132
for u

>>125935276
>>125935286
You were too late.

>>125935275
Look here you fucking faggot, I completely agree, but it's fun making fun of saxondragon.

>>125935032
BANE?

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>>125935496

http://strawpoll.me/6314150

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>>125935909
I wonder if drift will occur.