/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

first for fuck the porcupines

>>125459714
>can't spank them
No potential as waifus.

nth for tryhards invading me during my gimic build runs and fucking my shit up

>duel starts
>people see you using the "joke weapon"
>they wave equip the said weapon
>you've been actually training how to perform more or less decently with the said weapon for a year because you're a turboautist
>they dont even have it upgraded, so it deals piss poor damage
>they die
I kinda feel bad, even though I shouldn't.

>>125460396
What weapon?

>>125459714
I would let Quelaag enslave me to gather humanity for her hot sister.

It must be a hard life when your vagina is a multi-eyed, lava spitting giant spider. The menstral cycle especially. Where in Lordran would they sell asbestos-tungsten tampons?

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>>125460443
This is my autistic loadout.

>>125460735
The lava she spits everywhere is actually menstrual discharge.

>>125460856
>>125460735

Her lower body and vag are gone. Lower body duties are taken over by the spider.

>>125460856
Maybe the chosen undead caught her at the wrong time of month and otherwise she would have been as kind as her sister.

>>125460992
This is honestly a theory.

After all, Kirk is able to work for her and her sister. Yet you're just murdered on sight.

>>125461332
Yeah it made no sense why she and the other sister before bed of chaos were hostile. They still had control of their senses and had no reason to be hostile towards the chosen undead unless it was a test of skill.

>>125461698
>had no reason to be hostile towards the chosen undead
She wanted humanity, you fucking retard.

>>125461698
Maybe they thought you're just some random-ass hollow that wandered into their caves.

>>125461753
rude

>>125461698
>>125461332

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VUzHRBc2bQ

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>>125461868
C O N T E N T
U
T

;-;

When is mod support going to be added for SotFS ?

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>>125462243

Is there a mod for Dark souls 2 SotFS to change the xbox icons to icons with keyboard buttons?

>>125462528
See >>125462303

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This guy just invaded me as one of those shitty "le boss battle" characters using same old deceased iron king tables. Turned on speedhacks and killed him. I don't even fucking feel bad.

>>125463330
>:3
Let me gas him.

i am relatively new to souls games but i have played Dark souls 2 around 200 hours and i love it, should i buy dark souls 1??

>>125463330
I always wonder how furries end up being furries.

>>125463330
That's worth a save file corruption, for sure.

Does CoC make the pagan tree respawn indefinitely?

is there a breakdown of average soul memory level per area in ds2?

>>125463817
No. Use the orange thing to figure.

>>125463445
It's all in the brain. It's just like bugs in the code.
I know cause I'm even more fucked up, but holy shit at least I have enough self-awareness to keep my shit to myself.

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls2/34883
Can someone help me make my thief/rogue playthrough not shit?
I can barely even get the fashion right.

>>125464380
But how do you meet others with like interests? x3

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>>125464613
>no thief mask
Thank god.

>>125464828
What's wrong with Thief mask?

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>you'll never play the game dark souls 2 was supposed to be

>>125463445

brain damage

>>125463427

Yes.

2 is the weakest one.

>Demon Souls
>Dark Souls
>Bloodborne

The must plays.

Afro's got a new vid, have fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hGJbilYW8g

>>125465268
demons port to pc when. i loved that shit but i sold my ps3

>>125465094
The question is would it have made since lore wise in its complete state.

>>125465268
Nice opinion.

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Fuck Eleum Loyce in ng+2, as if there wasn't enough bullshit, they add even more.

>going after the first knight
>get past Mauldron the lance sniper's bullshit
>finally at Covetous room
>they added two fucking red phatom hedgehogs
>can't run away because there are other two on the exit
>can barely hit them, somehow they avoid my hitbox completely
>they also change directions during their rolling to snipe me
>take half my health in one hit

>done with finding knights, now going to Outskirts
>believe it or not, I fucking love outskirts, don't care much about the boss
>I was expecting red ponies, nothing until second building
>there's a red phatom here now
>some halberd cunt with infinite poise
>he completely ignores my stone ring hits
>uses that bullshit halberd running attack that's instakill
>end up completely ignoring the building
>at kitty bridge now
>guess what, there's a fucking golem on the bridge
>he kicks my phantoms down
>fuck this

>doing Ivory King now
>4 knights and everything
>charred cunts are ganking a lot harder than NG
>of course they completely ignore the 4 knights just to gank on me
>fuckers don't stop spawning and I can't kill them fast enough
>550 AR spear takes something close to 10 hits
>there's like 7 now
>tracking pyro bullshit
>they eventually kill me

First time in thousands of DS hours that I ragequit. The bosses aren't even hard, but the bullshit is beyond comprehension. I can't believe some cunt somewhere is getting paid to have ideas like these.

>>125465325
>demons port to pc when.

Never. Rights are tied up with Sony.

We will have to make PS3 emulators for that.

Can daggers on a quality build with flynn+rob do good damage to make it worth being in offhand?

Or is it just to short to make it worth it?

>>125465463
>not NG+
>NG2+
I admire your dedication. I haven't even reached NG+ and I already feel like every enemy turned into a miniboss.

I can't wait until the real Dark Souls 2 comes out. This putrid pile of horse shit that we got instead is a fucking waste of time. I hope all the fucking retarded gooks involved with ruining the best series in video game history get cancer and die.

>>125465398
DaS2 was supposed to be all about memory, but since they butchered everything this theme will probably never be expanded upon

>>125465398
surely would have better lore, and characters

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>>125465398

It's best to not mix the lore of these games. Dark Souls 3 seems to break the lore even further. Just think of each of the games as their own thing.

>>125465603
Given how it divides the fanbase, From will probably bury it as quickly as possible.

>>125465597

Fans would have to massively mod it, then create fan servers. The game would be unrecognizable.

>>125465597
ds2 soft already got released, the good ds2 will never exist

>>125465268
>2 is the weakest one
it delivers by far the best online experience of the bunch

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>We will never see restored Balder's armor

>>125465803
being able to invade faster don't make the best online experience. the pvp combat in ds2 is boring af.

>>125465463
i don't think its that bad in the ivory king pre -event, but the rest of the bullshit is spot on. Fuck Eleum Loyce.
Only redeeming factor is the king fight.

Iron>Sunken>Ivory DLC

>>125465905
>upgrading a broken sword does nothing

>>125464929
It's a crutch for waifufags to hide their hideous attempts at making a human-like face.
Male version is just overused and looks pretty plain, but otherwise is okay.
>>125465698
I'm actually kind of scared DaS2 being a failure might have affected the future of souls as a series. What if FROM will try to emulate DaS1 so hard they forget to actually fix the flaws game had, just because they're scared now of doing anything different?

So the meme is back? DS2 is unplayable shit again?

Did you guys change the altar position? I can't find where to pray to Miyazaki's cock.

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>>125465921
>the pvp combat in ds2 is boring af
git gud

>>125466191
ds2 retarded fanbase strikes again

>>125466264
Hi Menas.

>>125463427
dork souls 2 being bad is just a forced meme
prepare for eye-rape if you decide to play the other games

>>125466142
He's Japanese, it ain't a big altar.

>>125466060
it's impossible to fix a broken sword

>>125466304
hi yukaslegion

>>125466264
>poise backstabs require skill!
get off it m8

>>125466118

Dark Souls 3 looks nothing like 1 though. From is using Bloodborne as an inspiration for it. I don't think we'll ever see From do a game like DaS1 again because they don't understand what made it so good.

I'm pretty sure I'm still banned since 2014 for messing with SM. Is there any way to get unbanned?

>>125466446
make a new account

>>125466440
>DaS1
>good
nice meme
it's a poor boy's DeS

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>>125466369
>forced meme
>worst graphics
>worst bosses
>worst gameplay
>worst level design
>worst story
>worst npcs
>forced meme

>>125466424
>this takes skill
get off

>>125466681
>worst bosses
That's not Demon Souls

Remind me why 4skins is the worst boss ever and sucks so much dick, again.

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>>125466721

>>125466635
>poor boys des
>dark souls is on consoles and pcs
>pcs that run dark souls 1 are more expensive than a ps3
das2drones logic is so good

>>125466718
demon's souls have literally better bosses than ds2, they are all original and unique(with the exception of dirty colossus) while ds2 bosses are copies of demon's souls and dark souls enemies and bosses.

Whats the new meta in Ds2 concerning dual wielding and making the swings faster?

>>125466681
>DS2 is not as good as DS1
>based on that I can obviously claim it to be complete shit
>if you play DS2, and not DeS and DaS like me, you're not welcome here
>don't forget to kiss Miyazaki's cock on your way out.

>crypt blacksword w/ off hand shadow dagger

or

>fume sword powerstanced with espada

all dark infused

pick for me guys

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>>125466118
>DaS2 being a failure

It released to critical acclaim and won a Golden Joystick and has sold something like 3 million copies.

>>125466871
Neither.

Play a better game instead.

>>125466804
Take off your nostalgia goggles. DeS didn't age as well as you think, all bosses save for fucking TWO are complete pushovers.

>>125466681
Uhhm, the webm is fantastic..
Have you ever seen someone swing in DaS1?
Do you remember what happened?

>>125466832
Try dual lances.

>>125466681
I don't get how this works.

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>>125466446
family sharing works 100% or
1 copy your save to other folder
2 remove save folder
3 change the steam profile/id to something else (maybe be optional but take like 1 min)
4 accept new eula and create new char
5 go in the menu and copy save back
6 done but don´t use your obvious cheat char again or get soft banned again
>>125466118
do you really think they listen to some nostalgia we want a carbon copy of ds 1 babies? of course not they will take the best of bloodborne and ds 2 and mix it well together I can already fell the delicious nostalgia babies tears

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>>125466951
It is a failure, because it went through a very difficult development cycle. If it wasn't for BAMCO we'd have gotten an actual game DaS2 was supposed to be. DaS2 is a great fucking game but it's like an aborted fetus.
>>125466440
I was talking more about the technical aspect of the game rather than thematic.
And I'm saying this cause I don't think DaS1 mechanics were good.
Aesthetically and thematically it looks pretty promising. The bosses seem to be alright, too. At least the fat blue-ish mace guy fight from the trailer looks pretty intense. Major Spooks ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=80&v=-XwhYVzN_a0 ) might turn out to be another OIK, but at least he looks cool.
But stuff like those webms showing clerics with the poise miracle buff poisestabbing people kinda makes me anxious.

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>>125467083
>Do you remember what happened?

Nothing but perfect gameplay 100% of the time, except for the lag switches and RARE GLITCHES.

>>125467493
>best of bloodborne and DaS1
ftfy

>>125466681
That dude got outplayed hard.
Notice the stance swap at 00:08 or the BS dodges.
And the mother fucking trap at 00:28

>>125466951
Dark Souls 1 sold 8 million copies. By september of 2015 bloodborne had sold 2 million copies and it was exclusive (and i'm betting with the dlc/goty version with christmas coming up it will suprass 3 million). DeS has sold over 1.7 million and it was the least known game and exclusive.

In comparison Dark Souls 2 is a failure.

>>125468018
To be fair, those two have flawless connection with each other. I swear those backstabs would've definitely hit me if I was playing.

Is Demon's Souls available on ps4 through "the "PS NOW" or is it ever going to be remastered for it?

>>125468175
I think the guy actually just knows when to dodgle backstabs. They gotta hit on the opponents screen and not yours, so you need to delay your roll a little or something.

>>125466951
Dark souls 2 sold just shy of 3 million. Didn't even go past it.

>>125468081
Dark 1 sold 5.5 million.

Why isn't the spider's silk never used?
I never see anyone using it myself.

>I spy a white sign
>summon spirit
>they look around
>they seperation out

why

>>125468586
I see it from time to time.
Basically it's estoc for those who don't want to be associated with the estocfag meta.

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>>125468586
I used to use it on my RoBSOFlynn Monster. Only ever hit with it randomly (sometimes I would 360 shoot webs at niggas across the arena).

>>125467649

>I was talking more about the technical aspect of the game rather than thematic.

I was talking about both. Dark Souls 3 is a reskinned Bloodborne with shields added. Remember when those first screenshots leaked? Some Anons thought some of them were Bloodborne DLC leaks. I wasn't sure either if they were DaS3 screenshots or something else. The combat in the trailers/gameplay footage is very BB too. Everything is sped up.

>>125468969
You forgot to mention all the reused assets like floors, doors, walls, mobs (the enemies in the new trailer are literally yharnamites with different hair), music, sound effects, and even some animations.

>>125468969
>Everything is sped up.
I haven't played bloodborne but i don't get why some people are acting like this is a bad thing. pvp and pve will be more fast-paced and intense than ever if that's the case.

>>125468726
they were waiting on a friend more than likely
Why they didnt use the god-name ring or w/e idk, unless its DaS1

For people still believing in DaS1 superiority, I have one thing to say: ForeSkins. Remember that every time you're about to tell someone your precious game is flawless.

>>125469198
Because it prioritizes quick and random slapfights instead of a thought out and well strategized slow approach

>>125468081
>Dark Souls 1 sold 8 million copies

Gonna need a source on that.

>>125468969
>>125469189
>Dark Souls 3 is a reskinned Bloodborne

Is this a bad thing?

(I've never played BB)

>>125469334
Wiki says it only sold 2.37mil in 2013.

>>125469198

It's a bad thing because everything plays the same. What I liked about Dark Souls was that the weapon and roll speeds varied a lot based on your build. Fast weapons had less risk, less reward, while bigger weapons had huge rewards with bigger risks if your timing was bad. I'm not even talking about PvP here, it's not something I do a lot.

>>125469334
Literally look at the post that replied to the post.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-07-01-dark-souls-series-sales-surpass-8-5-million

Dark 1
2.8 million of the original game
2.7 million of PTDE

Dark 2
2.3 million original
600k sotfs

>>125469606
The problem is that the risk vs reward was skewed in favour of fast weapons in DaS.

Str builds weren't really viable especially in PvP.

>>125469349
>paying 60 dollars for a reskin

How is this not bad? Are we CoD now?

>>125469891
Except str builds did tremendously in PvE and dex builds were like fucking aids for the first 10 hours unless you literally parried everything.

Postly reminder that 4fags sucks dick and should be removed from the game.

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>>125470189

>>125469323
>>125469606
Everything is not going to play the same though, it's not like ultra greatswords will be the same speed as estocs. If everything is sped up, you will have to make the same strategic decisions at a faster rate, which will make it feel more skill-based and satisfying.

>>125469891
Wrong as fuck. Strength is probably the easiest way to breeze through DaS PvE and in PvP slow weapons are about playing patiently. This kind of gameplay won't die if everything is sped up because all that matters is that the swing speeds are relatively slower/faster with different weapon classes.

Faster, high-speed gameplay is not a bad thing.

>>125466396
>it's impossible to fix a broken sword

You can in Demon souls.

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>finally got the Bow of Want
Yep. Time to farm that shining petrified dragon bone or whatever is used to upgrade it.

>>125469891
>Str builds weren't really viable
>some of the best builds in the game are str
>the jap meta is literally great club 24/7
>Str builds weren't really viable

>>125470628
i dont understand why people say this bow is good. I made a faith build with it and had to be in shrine of amana to get any real damage.

Split damage is so fucking ass.

>>125469751
>Literally

As opposed to figuratively look at something?

Also, these numbers do not jive with what the original Anon said. I want to know if he just pulled 8 million out of his ass or what. The other Anon's post does not directly contradict mine and is fairly irrelevant to this line of discussion.

>>125470514
>Everything is not going to play the same though

I didn't mention the removal of poise. If the Estoc and say a Zweihänder have the same stagger potential they already play more alike than in DaS1/2(if you're not two handing).

>>125465463
NPC's with infinite poise, immunity to poison and infinite stamina make me rage so fucking hard. You can roll up all your tactics and shove them up your ass.

>>125470514
>>125470645
Str builds are shit in PvP unless your opponent doesn't know how to parry.

>>125470867
The other anon corrected him. He probably read the same thing and saw "dark souls sales surpass 8.5 million" and either didn't read or got confused.

Jesus christ, you are autistic.

>>125470829
>Split damage is so fucking ass.
Not in DaS2.
Also it's like 500AR with 80% elemental damage.
It's a better shiield piercer than estoc.

>>125469893
Why fix something that isn't broke?

Do you want them to completely rewrite the game from scratch and turn it into a turn-based tactical RPG or something?

DaS3 will be the final installment in the series anyway.

>>125471154
>The other anon corrected him.

Because the first Anon was pulling stuff out of his ass.

If he made a mistake then he can own up to it, I can't imagine why you're white-knighting for that dumbass.

>Not believing liars makes me autistic

Ok.

>>125471314
Until Space Souls.

>>125467360
Grand lances?

>>125471272
Well maybe not anymore, but back in the day it was entirely possible to be completely immune to ALL elemental damage (my robflynn 150 build was immune to all elemental damage by swapping some rings around and maybe putting on GMB once I found out they were using elemental damage).

I guess ever person I invaded just always had lightning defense on standby.

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So I saw someone complaining that getting Seathe the Scaleless's tail was hard, so I made this. Do I need to capture earlier or do you guys get the gist of it?

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Is this still valid?

>>125471314
Why do you not want them to put any effort in the game at all?

Just because I don't want reused assets and the same shitty playstyle of bloodborne doesn't mean I want them to rewrite the whole system.

Take DeS and DaS for example. They both have the same basic combat and shit, but the areas are all unique, the visuals are all unique, there are rarely any reused mobs, and the only thing I know for sure is that they reused a small amount of sounds. But dark souls 3 literally being bloodborne with a fresh coat of paint and some new weapons is basically cawadoody.

>>125471376
I prefer chariot lances, but if you want damage go buffed golem lances.

what are the best dex scaling weapons in Ds2?

are any of the twinblades aside from the red iron one good? they look pretty fun but don't seem to do any damage

>>125471314
Why pay 60 dollars if the devs didn't put any effort and just took everything from their last game for a quick buck? Even the dancer boss has almost the same animations/figure of vicar amelia.

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>>125471678
>Ricards Rapier
>high tier

>fume sword
>same level as long sword

>dagger not above BaK
>chaos blade not Top tier

>any twinblade
>high tier

Holy shit this is retarded. I can go on, but I don't agree with this at all.

then again, I'm not good,

>>125471969
Fume sword is great for pvp, and the list is for pvp.

>>125471834
Estoc is über-shrek

>>125472051
It is great, but not the same level as the longsword. It has too high of stamina consumption and it only gains a small advantage in range.

I am aware it is for pvp.

>>125471713
Of course I want them to put effort into the game but I'd rather they focus their effort where it counts. If there are graphical elements they can reuse from BB I really don't see the problem. There was lots of code and assets that were recycled since DeS.

Why is /vg/ always so negative?

Calling DaS3 a BB reskin before it's even released is just ridiculous.

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls2/34891

Rate my new pvp build!

>>125471678
>DaS2
>rigid meta
It's basically rock-paper-scissors.

>>125471905
Come on dude.

FROM could be waaaay more Jewish about the Souls series than they currently are. They're a bro-tier developer compared to most companies today.

The mere fact that they're ending the series with this third and final installment should be evidence enough that they're not just trying to milk the franchise for all its worth like so many western devs do.

>>125472448
Neat, a monk. The lvl 199 instead of 200 triggered me though.

>>125472448
http://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls2/34892
This one, messed it up a little.

>>125472584
Ya, I just saw that too.
But you said it was neat, and in the end that was all I was after.

Thank you anon

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>>125472508
>brotier
>partnering with bamco and sony

>>125472448
>heal
>PvP
I agree that if someone allowed you to heal it's their fucking bad but you still should feel bad.

>>125466440
>I don't think we'll ever see From do a game like DaS1 again because they don't understand what made it so good.
Or maybe because a carbon copy of a game is a shit decision considering you can just play said previous game?

Can anyone that knows shit about builds help me for a Dragonslayer spear build?

>>125472595
>http://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls2/34892
after looking at it again, i would say that 108 agility is a little overkill. I would stop at 105, and throw the rest into either end or vig. Other than that, good. 105 was the roll from DaS1, which is more than enough.

why would anyone purposly seek out pvp with hacked weapons and lag switches. like seriously. if you cant get good, dont play

>>125466440
>they don't understand what made it so good.

Which is what exactly?

Should i even bother to use a boss soul to get a weapon from a PvE standpoint?

>>125472508
They'll make more souls like games I'm sure. I mostly agree with you too, Excluding DaS2, they've always put a lot of effort into their games.

>>125472865
>healing is bad
>>125472970
for ds1, enjoy nodmg

>>125472970
Which game? DaS1 or DaS2?

>>125472595
>108 AGI

Why? 100 AGI is more than enough

>>125473083
>>125473120
Any of the 2. Preferably DaS2, but I can play both.

>>125472595
>that agility

If you go over 95 you should be ashamed. Get gud and save those stats.

>>125473036

WHAT GAEM NIGGA

If you mean 1, yeah the boss soul weapons aren't that great typically. Some are nice. But most normal weapons are better if leveled up.

>>125473021

>look how good i beat you in an unfair fight :D
its like a 21 year old boxer going and fighting a 10 year old in their jungle gym and getting rewarded for it

>>125473083
>healing is bad
Not inherently, but it makes you a worse player since it's basically a crutch.

>>125473325
Nope, 2.
I tried with a couple but they are all either 16+ weight ultra weapons that i need to 2 hand or do sub 130 damage per hit.

>>125473250
Not that anon, but 105 agi is fun

>>125473527
Warped sword and roaring halberd are quite noice

>>125473250
Nah
Over 105/108 is the "what the fuck are you doing nigger" tiers.

>>125473527
>doesn't have the stats to use the weapons
>waah they're so bad

>>125471584
That is some big luck right there.

>>125473742
>i dont want to use this weapon
>stop saying this weapon is shit
lol ok

>>125473781
How was that luck? If seath breaks his own crystal he gets stunned for a long ass time.

>>125473742
>that i need to 2 hand or do sub 130 damage per hit
>or
I meant that the only choices i saw in those weapons are ultra weapons or medium weapons that deal less than half the damage on my normal mace/rapier

Even if this dumb claim that DaS3 will be a BB clone is true, its still great news for PCfags.

>>125473527
Fume UGS is great
Fume Sword is great
Warped sword is great
Roaring Halber fucks shit up if you land the sweet spot

That being said a yeah they are not flat out better than base weapons, which was kind of the point of DS2s weapon balancing

>>125473952
You have to upgrade them, you know.

>>125474035
RH is annoying as fuck to hit the sweet spot with because of that horrible front step.

>>125473781
It was actually bad luck, because i was trying to activate the red tearstone, but he kept getting closer and doing his longest range attack

>>125470547
you can't in real life

>>125466396
>it's impossible to fix a broken sword
but you can fix a broken broken straight sword

>>125474879
But you can't fix a broken community.

>>125466681
You may say that his takes no skill but I suck at DS1 and managed to get a 20 win streak in the burg and townshit with a build I copied from the internet just backstab fishing with a club. Literally holding right and pressing R1 at the correct time.

is there anything that stings more than losing to manus as he has a sliver of hp left because you get greed?

Large club or Great club for a str build in DaS1?

So for farming items in DaS2, what are the best equips to go with to aid the process? I know CoC is basically mandatory, Covetous Gold Serpent Ring(Whatever rank you have highest of), Prisoners Tatters, and Jesters Cap/Prisoner's Hood are the equips you go with, right? The Rusted Coins seems like a complete waste of time to farm for since it only works until you return to a bonfire or for five minutes, and most of the stuff you'll be farming takes a minute at best before you warp back to the bonfire.

>>125476817
Large, unless you are just going to backstab fish. The 1HR2 on large club is really sweet plus it's weight is more manageable.

>>125474879
but you can't fix dark souls 2

>farming to get an enemy to drop the weapon they have in their hand
>you can look down at their dead body and see the very weapon you need but can't grab it

shake my head

>>125477169
Yeah man fuck game balance let's just make Artorias/Gwyn/etc drop their weapons to any player without having to ascend them

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>>125476345
this is what the guy in webm related did
in ds2 pvp you just roll in circles and swing around your weapon in the hope that will hit the enemy

>>125461868
ERECT

>>125477458
>low level twink invasions is the core of dark souls 2 pvp

come on

>>125477608
>DLC area
>stuck at Elana, Fume Knight and Eleum Loyce's mobs

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>>125477608

>>125477937
Why are you posting all my webms?

>>125477416

You could handle game balance and make drops less of some esoteric abstraction.

>all enemies drop all equipment
>standard enemies have low tier equipment
>when picked up said equipment is usually damaged and needs repairs
>boss or large enemy armors/weapons need to be reworked by smiths to fit humans
>enemies will randomly have different, better equipment

Examples:
>Kill Stone Giants. Strip them of their heavy Stone armor.
>Bring it to a smith, spend a lot of souls to make human versions of that armor

>going through undead church
>Balder knights with rapiers
>after an hour see one with a BSS
>kill him and grab it

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Leo ring makes the AotA area super easy, holy shit.

BSS 2hr2 on Artorias on counter hit- 571
BSS 2hr2 on Manus on counter hit- 671
I am about to try Kalameet, but I cleared Arty in like 1:10 m and Manus in like 2 m.

Back on my NG+7 dude, I would hit 960 on 2h rolling r1 with my BKGS on manus.
Shit is crazy.

>>125477937
What's so wrong about that parry?

>>125478223
He's a das1 babby who doesn't know there are no range limits for parry in Das2.

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>>125478076
or
>let it the way it is

>>125478223
really? the guy just pressed r2 two times and parried a guy thats not even near him

>>125478046
posting the webms because the guy posted about the backstabs with club in ds1
you can cheese both games
like wtf happened here

Just how dead is the Xbone version of DaS II? I got it for free from some promotion their shitty rewards program was doing.

I already played it on the 360, so I'm really only interested in doing more online stuff.

It won't be here for a week, so I'm wondering if I should just sell it for cheap somewhere.

>>125478790
>you can cheese both games
You can't poise BS in das2, and even when you're able to, the enemy can just roll away. Also, what happened there was latency.

>>125478790
Woah, you got rekt.

>>125478790
>>let it the way it is

Which leads to endless farming, and a very abstract concept of "drops".

The Souls games took rpgs away from really abstract turn based game play. They should continue the trend of removing as many levels of abstraction as possible.

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Quick Question, I have heard the chaos rapier is the best riposte weapon per the weight, but would a divine rapier at 40 dex and 40 faith be better? The rapier ignores armor on critical attacks, right? Its AR is like 7 higher.

What's a good earlish bow in ds2? I want to make a ranger build

>>125478991
but you can parry with your back turned to the guy and it still work

>>125478995
this one thing only leads to
>run past mobs
>no one have what i want
>sit in the bonfire
>repeat forever
also, you would have 1 billion armor in your inventory, would the enemies respawn with new armor and new weapons? how?

>>125479249
>also, you would have 1 billion armor in your inventory,

You don't have to pick it up.

>>125478797

>tfw got a single multiplayer map for a CoD game that came out two years ago
>Friend got a life size replica of the Faraam Knight

T-thanks Xbox.

>>125479406
You don't know what it is until you pick it up.

>>125479406
so there would be a lot of armor in the floor causing lag

>>125479590
>>125479615
WoW like loot system

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>>125479249
Nothing new there. You can even parry backstab attempts.

>>125478790
>really? the guy just pressed r2 two times and parried a guy thats not even near him
The greatsword blade was clearly in the parry range. The host was just swinging unlocked.
If the guy didn't parry him the blade would've hit him.
Everything's fair.

>>125480091
Yeah, I was spaced outside his sword range mashing parry, on his second swing he moves forward and I'm in his range, I got lucky with the mashing.

>>125480002
why do you even play this game?

>>125480091
no the blade wouldn't hit him

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>>125479147

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>>125480561

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How did I do on the face of my unhinged hermit run?

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>>125480358
Your fashion is pure edge, no offense.
>>125480561
>no the blade wouldn't hit him
You can fucking see the distortion special effect from the swing going right through his head, don't fucking lie.

>>125480974
>taking the bait

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I want to do a rapier build, balder side sword is supposed to be the best thrusting sword?

>>125480902

Looks fine.

First playthrough of DS

Where do I go after beating the two bosses that fight together in Anor Londo (Ornstein and something) and talking to the goddess that lets you teleport?
I talked to the snake, it swallowed me, and I put the thing where it told me.

Do I go to the former orange door in Anor Londo, to the place after the cat in the forest, to the demon place after Queelag, or to the skeleton zone near firelink shrine?

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>>125480561
>why do you even play this game?
to kill newfriends in heides and shrine of amana also to have fun.

>>125480974
>Your fashion is pure edge, no offense.
That's the point but I'm over it now.

Dark Souls 2 sucks lol

>>125481053
Baller Swag Sword isn't even a rapier, it's a straight sword but yeah it's still the best thrusting sword.

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>>125480902
He looks like a mix between a quokka and a vicious child molester, I quite like it.

>>125481097

There's a few Orange doors that have opened up now. Go to them. The organge door in Anor Londo is just one of them.

>>125480902
bretty good, remember to kill saulden as soon as you get to majula, then answer "yes" when he asks if you've come unhinged and giggle to yourself like an autist. the best psychokiller weapon i've seen is the jagged ghostblade r2, is there anything similar in ds2? use that

>>125481097
You've got several options, but if I were you, I'd go where funny funky skeletons live

>>125481097
Just pick a place.

Everything after Anor Londo fucking sucks anyway so it doesn't matter where you go next.

>>125481223
In the cutscene there were many, but the one in Anor Londo is the only one I had found.
I guess I will go there.

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Someone make Trudeau.

>>125481097
Go anywhere you want. I personally recommend going to the place after the cat in the forest, then doing New Londo ruins, but it's up to you really.

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>>125481184

What's the best bow in ds2?

>>125481829
Hunter Black Bow for dex, Twinheaded great bow for str

>>125481379

so far the game seems excellent to me, and I expected it to be overrated, as in, praised by young people not used to the difficulty of retro games.
It is really really excelent.
My only complaints is bows arent very useful, crossbows are compltely useless, and some bad hitboxes or enemies hitting through walls and doors.
I hope the game doesnt turn to shit after Anor Londo.
The hardest part for me so far was crossing the bridge in Anor Londo with the knight archers.

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>>125481959
>I hope the game doesnt turn to shit after Anor Londo.

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>>125481184

>>125481959
have fun in lost izalith, best place of the game ;-))))))

>>125481959
Yes the game is excellent up until Anor Londo but either they ran out of money or Namco put a strict deadline on them because everything after Anor Londo is a bog drop on quality.

>>125481959
Nah every game in the series has some massive issues with being rushed in DS1 there is clearly content missing midgame, but it becomes really obvious once you get past Anor Londo.
In terms of how complete they are its probably Dukes Arctive (from Anor Londo)>Tomb of Giants (take a guess)>New Londo Ruins (but you need a certain item to fight the boss there and a consumable to even hurt the enemies there)>Izalith (past queelag), Isalith is such a massive shitfest though, you might want to try it first, see how it goes then do the rest, leaving it for last will leave you with a really sour taste in your mouth for the endgame, but going to it early might kill any of your interest in playing the rest of the game, pick your poison

>>125481959
>My only complaints is bows arent very useful,

40 dex
Pharis Black Bow
Leo Ring
Hawk Ring

>>125481959
Most places after Anor Londo are good, with the exception of Lost Izalith, which is unfinished and terrible.

>Hating Lost Izaleth

Cenepede was a nice fight.

The ring to run on lava is a little too Zelda-like. Though in those games you would get special boots for that.

But other than that it's fine. I had zero problems with it.

>>125483309
It's not the worst thing ever, but it's a very noticeable drop in quality from the rest of the game and is clearly not finished.

Also, it hurts my fucking eyes Jesus Christ.

>>125483309
>centipede demon
Literally the least memorable boss in the game.

>>125483309
>Cenepede was a nice fight
In what world?
>Well I'll just stand here and wait while he slowly slowly slowly makes his way over while rolling his attacks
>Oh he arrived guess I hit him now
>Well the camera is fucked, can't see shit but if you roll when he starts to move its fine and he seems to be taking damage
>Oh his dead now
You literally wait for him to walk over to you so you can hurt him, then the camera shit itself all the attacks look retarded and it's just a mess

>>125483569
>camera shits itself
you know there's an area to fight him on to the right, yeah? did you bother looking around?

>>125483309
>lost izalith is fine
>barely 3 new enemies
>rest is just bullshit copy paste
>third asylum demon with new skin
>centepede demon is one of the shittiest/easiest bossfights of the game
>DRAGON ASSES COPY PASTED ALL OVER THE PLACE

>>125483884
Why on earth would I move from the fog gate, I don't want that asshole coming up behind me or rolling into lava and shit that seems like a terrible idea

>>125483939
oh yeah and I forgot
>bed of chaos
>literally the most hated boss in the game along 4kings

>>125472209
>DaS2 Estoc
>Dex weapon

>>125483569
>>Well the camera is fucked,

Are you locking on? Only scrubs lock on.

And the secret trick to centipede: Kill the small one and get the Orange whatever ring. Then that opens up the entire field to fight him.

>>125480706
I dont follow.

>>125484386
>Are you locking on? Only scrubs lock on.

You are a fucking idiot.

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>>125483939

>mfw sniping Dragon Asses from the short cut
>they can't touch you, and can't respawn

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wtf am I doing...

inb4schnitzels

>>125471834
Blacksteel Katana, this is a fact
Other than that if you want to PvE then a mix of BSK's to powerstance for most enemies and a rapier for heavy armor and bosses
If you want to PvP then fume sword because fuck that shit is amazing

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>>125484728
>60 Euros
My conversions are probably out of date, but isnt that like 100 burgerbucks?

>>125484332
>pokey pokey stick
>true STR
meh, it's as much of a STR weapon as drakewing UGS is a DEX weapon.

strawpoll.me/6273491

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>>125484921
>My conversions are probably out of date
It is
due to various reasons and shit an eur is barely worth more than a dollar.

>>125484921
1 Euro equals
1.09 US Dollar

>>125485142
>65.4 USD
Huh, thats not so bad.

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I need help with a build in dark souls 2 that says "daddy likes leather"

I think I should use a whip too

>>125485356
Yeah, i eventually looked it up.>>125485361
I was in euro like 5 years ago on vacation, why i thought it was higher.

>>125485624
>>125485078
MODS

>>125485518
>5 years ago
As you said, 5 years ago.

>trying to kill smalls first for his ring
>i was also thinking about acquiring dem thighs but ultimately picked efficiency over looks
>notice that i do no extra damage
>apparently counter damage is only applied to physical
>mfw MLBH
well, fuck me up the ass and call me betty

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>>125485732
A lot changes in 5 years i guess

how do people take pvp seriously in this? almost every time I invade/get invaded there's so much lag it feels like you just swing/dodge while praying a hit lands on their invisible hitbox 10 feet away

Postly reminder that 4condoms is the most retarded shit to ever exist in a Souls-game. Bed of Chaos is, like, a shining masterpiece in comparison.

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Are all the memes going to go away when DaS3 comes out?

>>125486806
Those are the japanese controls, right

>>125487021
They were on the english website so I don't think so.

>>125487159
Changing the dodge to the X button is kind of awkward.

>>125483309
Lost Izalith is objectively the least fun area in the game. Even the devs admit that the area was unpolished and did not meet expectations.

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>>125461868
Didn't know she had cut dialog.

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pa-patches-kun, your spear is so long

>>125487635
So is his kike fucking nose jesus christ that angle

>>125484946
It has better STR scaling so it's a STR weapon. Drakewing UGS has better DEX scaling so it's a DEX weapon.

What exactly are you trying to say here?

promise me that soul memeory will not be in DS3

>>125487779
patches is 100% slav
he even squats at firelink
>>125487840
sl has already been confirmed, as well as infinite invasion items

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>>125487813
CiS scum! Just because a weapon scales better with dex doesnt make it a dex weapon. I bet you think the stone spear and twinblade. Check your weapon privilage, shitlord

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>>125486806
>X to dodge

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>>125488069
>sl has already been confirmed, as well as infinite invasion items

>>125488069
Not him, but who's asking the hard hitting questions here?

How fucking soon and low a SL can I get my +15 weapon and infinite invasion eye orb?

>>125488339
at any sl, through the arduous valley of CheatE
information on that yet afaik

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>>125486806
>Shields and spell casting tools can only be in left hand
>No mention of pyromancy flame
>Bloodborne weapon system confirmed
>dodging is now mapped to X/A

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>>125490629
If these cant be remapped i will cry

>>125483309
I like the look and lore of Izalith/Demon Ruins but within gameplay that area was literally hot ass.
>copy-pasted hordes of taurus/capra demons and dragon asses everywhere
>other than that, there were only three new enemy types and the last kind, the chaos eaters, only show up like 7 times
>bosses include a fire assylum demon, cheeseless discharge, centipede motherfucker, and the god damn bed of bullshit
>even trying to finish Siegmeyer's quest there was a big fucking pain in the ass. Fuck you you fat asshole I can get more slabs elsewhere instead of dealing with your shit

I keep seeing Vagrants in various areas, I've never seen so many at once. All evil too, though I might ave missed the good ones since they flee. What is going on?

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>>125491073
Still, 4cocksuckers is, like, incomparably worse than fucking EVERYTHING else in DaS1.

>>125491240
A lot of people are dying, apparently.

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>invaded by a pyromancy twink in blighttown
>instantly killed by his Black Flame
>"at least he spawned Quelaana for me"
>mfw this isn't even a pyro character and i was just trying to farm for large titty shards

>>125488069

Will Patches return?

How many games has he been in so far?

http://strawpoll.me/6273491

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>>125491531
Every single one, so yes.

>>125491408
Fuck off and kill yourself already you pathetic autist. Have you no shame?
Well, it's not like you have any friends or family that cares about you to even question why you have gay rule 34 of a video game saved to your computer. How sad.

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>>125491713
Yes, feed the troll. Thats a fucking great idea.

>>125491640

Not in 2
not in bloodborne

>>125491841
Better to put the worm in his place than let it take over.

>>125491842
Pate is Patches.

In BB, there's a spider NPC that's an asshole. That's Patches.

Patches doesn't have to be their name but there's always a Patches character.

>>125491842
Pate is pretty much DS2 Patches.

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>>125491958

>>125492035
>Pate is Patches.

Patches-esque. But not Patches.

And in BB he's Patches the Spider.

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>faggot tumblr design
>retarded DPS race instead of a proper fight
>zero lore and complete irrelevance to the game's plot
>nonexistent build-up
>worst area in the game
>worst music in the game

Shittest, easiest, and the most retarded and poorly made so-called "boss" in the entire history of gaming.

>>125492035
pate has such a sexy voice, but he sounds more calm while patches is more playful. besides, he warns you about traps, not lead on them or setting you up. even if you play the reverse psychology card, he still warns you

Anyone here ever try to make powerstance mace work in pvp?

Think ima give it a run.

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>>125492612
>pate has such a sexy voice
>mfw peter's death groans are still in DaS3
The legacy lives.

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>>125490629
>Go to pick up something
>roll off a ledge

>>125492693
Its pretty hard to combo with, its attacks knock the enemy out of the next attack. Its criticals are ok

>>125493039
I had major success with the blacksmith hammer, the delayed attacks always messed with people.

But i'll keep this in mind if I dont switch to a single hammer only.

>>125492035
But Pate is good!

Who is Creighton then? The player character in DS1 who has a (ir)rational hatred for patches because of the shit he did in DeS?

>>125493285
Well then you are better with it than i was. Im more of a sword guy.

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>>125492507

>join forest hunters for the first time, SL60
>equip cat ring
>every person I invade has a summon they're farming invaders with
okay then

what's the best place to gravelord niggas? i assume somewhere after sens so ng+ players will have some trouble

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>>125494495
>invade the same guys that just farmed me as I spawned
>+12 large club with sunlight blade/replenishment up
>get backstabbed for 75% of my health
>pretend to run away as replenishment gets me back to ~40%
>turn around and R1 into both the summon and host
>kill them both at the same time with one swing

>>125495293
Usually anal rodeo and oolacile.

>>125495293
Townshit's gravelord phantoms are annoying as fuck to deal with. Try there.

>You're meant to do Catacombs super early to encounter Patches for the first time

>>125495891
I always wait to do the catacombs until after I've got the sunlight maggot. Can't stand catacombs/tomb of the giants without it.

>>125495891

>tfw i did catacombs last because I honestly got lost and couldnt find it and the other areas were more obvious
>still needed an assist to take out nito

>>125496163
Nito is bullshit the first time you fight him.

>>125496145
you can just turn back after pinwheel