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Church Edition

Old >>125227068

>Patch 1.07 Info and How to Access the DLC
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/11/20/bloodborne-the-old-hunters-out-tuesday-patch-1-07-detailed/

>I can't access DLC, the Eye isn't showing up in the Dream!
Fix: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resourses Pastebin - Character Planners, MP Range Calculator, Where to go next in BB and Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Multiplayer and Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art, Screenshots and Guide Scans
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Wheel, Fight Club, and Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX
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>>125250734
this drawing is cool and all but ludwig looks like a spider
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Send help to defiled hotdog.
Queen Killer is a god.

I am not.

Ringing at the fog door. Pass is hotdog12
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>>125250734
Doesn’t look like Ludwig at all.
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OOH MAJESTIC
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>>125250734
If SSJNugget is here could you add the arc 101 pic to your gallery
>>125246846
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spider ludwig?
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Have i fucked up?
Any ideas weapons wise?

>stats
Vit 26
End 20
Str 25
Dex 15
Bt 9
Arc 15

I bave been playing around with Amydalas Hand, kinda fun i guess..
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I might just be bad, but I'm getting bodied by every PC that uses the church pick. It's move set is really good.
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Orphan of Kos
BL 100
Pasword:squid

Who's a bitch?
I'm a bitch
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>>125251339
I don't think it is, the retard that drew it clearly used a wolf as a base, how he could confuse that shit, I mean not only is it fairly obvious he's mutated with a horse, he also fucking makes horse noises for the entirety of the god damn fight. Jesus holy shit.
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>>125251645
still good, just dont touch anything thats not vit or str and get those two to 50
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>>125251656
yeah there was a dicksniffer in the fc last night who was probing my anus with it
new saw spear desu
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AH
MIG
DAH
LA
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>>125251645
Leave your vit where it is. Commence leveling two damage stats
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Can someone help me with Laurence, please? I'm waiting outside the fogdoor, the password is bbvikek
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>>125251969
kek
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Post webms please
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>>125251662
ill come bb ring by slugladies
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>remaking my skill character for level 80
>this will be the third time I've remade my skill character
>this will be my eleventh yharnam stone
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>>125251964
OH AM-MIG-DAH-LAH
fuck off Patches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrbJTYS-MKU
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>>125251969
Sure about that? Are there any quality wespons that scale so well?
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>>125252209
Ludwig's Holy blade is really strong.

People call it a meme, but it's a fun as fuck weapon
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>>125252115
don't for get all the emotes or it will be your 4th time.
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>>125252081
what kinda webms you want fann
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>>125251645
Get to 45 vit and 44 str.

Hunter Axe, Amy Arm, and Pizza Cutter are all fun.
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>>125252276
Mlgs is so much better.
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She deserved a better fate.
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>>125252332
Did the le edgy vermin crush/shining coin taunt get added to the /bbg/ list yet?
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>>125252452
The MHS is actually farm worse than the LHB.
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I wish crushing vermin actually did something.
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>>125252209
yes for actual quality theres ludwig and MLGS and more if you go skl/str leaning quality. But if you leave your vit as is, enjoy getting 1 shot/2 shotted in later difficult areas/pvp and tons of replies of ez frags
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>>125252586
I could only hit 550 with LHB
MHS gets me 600+.
I have shit gems and never committed to getting good ones.
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You faggots ever come across any good cosplays? I scraped a decent Utena across the floor with my amy arm yesterday.
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>>125252276
It has a really fun moveset, yes, but i cant fucking stand the backpiece.
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Is the upper cathedral ward the best place to farm for blood chunks?
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>>125252991
If you can't/don't want to farm layer 1 depth 5 chalice bosses. Yeah.
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>>125252509
it's been around forever, kid
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>>125252081
From yesterdays fightclub. I already dumped them 9 hours ago or so.
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>>125252830
LHB has a better moveset, better stagger, dat thrust charge attack, and generally more damage unless you want to waste a bullet with each swing.
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>>125252750
>But she wasn't pure enough to be considered a Vileblood.

By who? Clearly not Oedon.

>ALFRED SAID SO.
No, he said that the forbidden blood started the Vilebloods. Which is true, that's when Yarnham's blood was introduced back into the system. He says absolutely nothing about whether you can be born a vileblood.
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How does SRRC summoning work? I want to help people with stuff like defiled hotdog can I do that? I keep getting defiled Amy and I think that's easier solo.
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Anyone want to come to Living Failures?
Level 75
Password is alium
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>>125253178
Now now. Perfectly symmetrical violence never solved anything.
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Anyone wanna co-op Logarious? I swear I'm not a Maria. BL 49
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>>125253178
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>>125253289
Why? It's the easiest boss in the game.
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>>125253268
It's random unfortunately. You can be summoned into any dungeon you could also create either by search or by glyph.
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>>125253403
didn't know if they wanted blood echoes or not m8.
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>>125253289
sure, give me a few minutes and I will help
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>>125253456
Damn that sucks; thanks.
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>>125253393
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>That feel when you, for the first time you can remember, are one hundred percent covered in blood.

Most glorious.
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>>125253192
LHB does have a better moveset, but only in first form, I still find myself partial to MHB.
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>>125253206
>By who?
The game and Annalise.
>. He says absolutely nothing about whether you can be born a vileblood.
But Annalise confirms you and her are the only ones and drinking Arriana's Blood doesn't make you a Vileblood. Drinking Annalise's does.

She's not a Vileblood.
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>>125253657
first time that happened to me I killed the engorged fleaman outside Cainhurst castle that is unable to fight back. So satisfying popping that fucker.
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>>125253693
I really prefer the moveset of LHB in both forms. The HMS just doesn't compare to the MLGS.
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does having a arcane cursed gem in parasite that gives physical damage lower its efficiency in the r2 attack?
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Would putting a flat +Blood Atk gem onto a weapon with no blood damage and then add two other % up blood damage gems augment the flat blood damage to viable levels?
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>>125252081

time to bully
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>>125253616
Some other stuff.
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>>125253178
Put 2 point into END just to round off all the numbers.
>>125253439
Never understood how that girl survived the torture.
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>>125253561
Alright. I'll be outside the fog wall
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>>125253829
no because it doesn't override the physical scaling the way an elemental/arcane does
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So how many people, in this thread, cosplaying Maria right this moment?
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>>125253439
Prevailing theory is that the forbidden blood is Yharnam's. Could be from someone else, like a great one though.
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Anyone cosplaying plip plop?
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>>125253439
>the forbidden blood taken from Burgerworth
Is widely believed to be Queen Yharnam's blood. Annalise is trying to emulate Yharnam and bear a Child of Blood. It would follow that the forbidden blood is Yharnam's. Infact, they even confirm that it was corrupt blood that drew Odeon to Arianna. Even traces of Yharnam's lineage count for something to him.
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>>125253964
I almost made her coat my new main hunterware.

I'm too attached to the Cainhurst noble coat.
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So when is the best time to start the DLC, story wise? I heard the Doll has unique dialogue after you beat certain bosses, but only before you kill Mergo's Wet Nurse.
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>>125252081
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>>125252081
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>>125254131
Anytime after Rom
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>>125253772
>The game and Annalise.
Where in the game does it say that Arianna is not a vileblood?

>But Annalise confirms you and her are the only ones

How could she possibly know that Arianna is alive?

>and drinking Arriana's Blood doesn't make you a Vileblood.

I don't know what you're so caught up on this. The reason you can't get the Vileblood rune from Arianna is because you can find her at the beginning of the game. Every other single piece of information about her indicates that she's a Vileblood. Hell, she's a more potent Vileblood than Annalise, because she's the actual Queen of Blood.
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>>125254074
>all that reaching

Fuck outta here with your baseless shit
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>>125253906

>>125253919
>Put 2 point into END just to round off all the numbers.
Are you brain dead? You did notice that Bl98, yes?
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>>125253964
I wear her set + knights wig because it looks good, does that make me a faggot?
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Can a shitter get some help with ludwig?
I keep getting my shit pushed up into my throat.
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>>125253964
Not I, but her hat is amazing.

>>125253906
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>>125254131
bl65
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>>125254301
END is 13.
BL is 98
2 into it will make
END 15
BL100

IT ALL HAS TO BE SMOOTH AND ROUNDED!
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>>125254346
Password?
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>>125254162
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>>125254273
>How could she possibly know that Arianna is alive?

How could you possibly receive an invitation to castle cainhurst?

>>125254074
>annalise is trying to emulate yharnam
>they even confirm that it was corrupt blood that drew Odeon to Arianna

Source, because that smells like serious bullshit.
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>>125254460
ludpls
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>>125254074
Where is it confirmed that Yharnam and Arianna's babys are Odeons? It sounds really familiar but I can't remember what the evidence for it was.

>>125254273
Where in the game does it say that Adella the Nun isn't actually a flying pollyp in disguise? I don't think it says that anywhere, man, but it would be a pretty big assumption for me to make.

Arianna is part of the Cainhurst line and related to Yharnam, but she's not an actual Vileblood. In fact, I'd say it's specifically because she's not a sickly undead abomination that makes her a more suitable surrogate than Annalise.
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>>125254273
>Where in the game does it say that Arianna is not a vileblood?
Oh my god you're thick. Because Annalise says so.
>How could she possibly know that Arianna is alive?
Because Arianna was clearly exiled or cast out in some way. She's a whore living in Yharnam.
>I don't know what you're so caught up on this
Because it's a fact that if she was a Vileblood, Logarius and friends would have killed her. She lives in the fucking Cathedral Ward for Fuck sakes.
>The reason you can't get the Vileblood rune from Arianna is because you can find her at the beginning of the game.
That's a really flimsy excuse friend. By the time you can send her to the chapel and take her blood, you could also visit cainhurst and go see Annalise.
> Every other single piece of information about her indicates that she's a Vileblood
No, it indicates she's SIMILAR to them. Because of her Cainhurst/Pthumeru lineage.

>>125254289
There's literally no reaching in that post. You wanna bear Oedon's Child? Maybe you should try to become more like the last mother he chose.
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>>125252081
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So I just found out this is a thing on my BL10 character.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt1xmeTSU5s
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>>125254576
Only Arianna's babby is confirmed as Oedeon's child. Mergo's father is unknown.
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>>125253381
Anyone?
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>>125254717
Give me a minute and I will.
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>>125253439
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/blood-rapture-rune

You find it on both the Shadows of Yarnham and a Vileblood.


>This rune resonates with servants of the Queen, carrier of the Child of Blood, who yearn for their Queen's blood with little hope of requitement.

Applies equally well to Yarnham and Annalise.
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>>125254708
>Mergo's father is unknown.
Though game heavily implies a pthumeran connection, what with the queen praying nearby and all.
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>>125254789
Okay thanks, pass is bbg ringing by fog
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>>125254658
>literally no reaching

>nowhere in the game does it hint that Annalise is trying to be like Yharnam

I'm not sure about why Mr. Formless was drawn to Arianna, though. Anyone have evidence for that?
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>>125254717
Set a pw and let me start my oil drill station 4
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>>125254484
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>>125254193
10/10.
Grant us eyes.
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>>125254868
ringing
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>>125254494
>annalise is trying to emulate yharnam
- "Queen Annalise partakes in these blood dreg offerings, so that she may one day bear the Child of Blood, the next Vileblood heir."
>they even confirm that it was corrupt blood that drew Odeon to Arianna
- "Every Great One loses its child, and then yearns for a surrogate, and Oedon, the formless Great One, is no different. To think, it was corrupted blood that began this eldritch liaison."


>>125254576
>Where is it confirmed that Yharnam and Arianna's babys are Odeons?
Mergo is formless and exists only in voice. Oedon is formless and exists only in voice.
>"This rune resonates with servants of the Queen, carrier of the Child of Blood, who yearn for their Queen's blood with little hope of requitement." - Blood Rapture
>"Oozing blood is a medium of the highest grade, and the essence of the formless Great One" - Formless Oedon
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>>125254708
Where does it say Arianna's baby is Oedeon's though? I mean, I'm not really doubting you that much (Oedeon is formless so the immaculate conception makes sense, and Arianna was hanging around in Oedeon's chapel, after all), I'd just like to know if it has been explicitly confirmed.
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>>125254883
Pass is bbg ringing by fog
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Hey.
Crazy idea time.

Take all the items with no use, YarnhamStone,wedding ring, etc.

and go shove 'em in Kos' corpse!

You are now the proud owner of an undead, Great One waifu.
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>>125254796
>applies equally well to Yarnham and Annalise

Except no, it does not? Their proximity to the college (what delved into pthumerian dungeons) and crude weaponry, along with them appearing in greater number at mensis, near mergo and Yharnam's ghost, imply they are linked to Yharnam. There is nothing there to mark them as vilebloods serving Annalise.
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>>125254672
When you have the HP of a small toad you should probably vial up first
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>>125254926
what's your build? looks fun
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>>125254796
No because Annalise SEEKS to carry the child and Yharnam SUCCEEDED in carrying the child. Also, Blood Rapture is dropped by Shadows of Yharnam.
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What's the highest level I can go to if I still want to get steady invasions in the DLC areas?
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>>125255198
King of beggars roleplay?
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>>125252081
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>>125255057
The cord confirms it.
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>>125254658
>Because Arianna was clearly exiled or cast out in some way.

Or you know, she escaped from the people who were trying to kill her entire society.

>Because it's a fact that if she was a Vileblood, Logarius and friends would have killed her. She lives in the fucking Cathedral Ward for Fuck sakes

Why the hell would they think some random whore would be a Vileblood?

>No, it indicates she's SIMILAR to them.

No, she's literally the fucking Queen of Blood. That's not SIMILAR.
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>Watch new episode of Best Friends DLC LP
>"This game is really bad about diversifying your character"
>"There used to be something called a quality build which was strength and dexterity, that's gone now"
>This game seems to really favor power weapons, most of the weapons that are good are power weapons"
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>>125255198
bl43
23vit base base 15skl 25bt base
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>>125255057
The third cord she drops says so.

>>125255293
>she escaped from the people who were trying to kill her entire society.
And went to live as a whore? Nah.
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>>125255198
>bow and unzip doing a lot of damage
take a wild guess
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>>125253795
>engorged fleaman outside Cainhurst castle that is unable to fight back

What?
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>>125255358
>And went to live as a whore? Nah.

Yeah, I'm sure she had a bunch of marketable skills.
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>>125255289
i like this. Too many dash R1 webms here.
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>>125255306
>watching 2 fags play dlc
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Can someone help with Laurence? Password is bbglarry
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Post your characters /bbg/

looking for insipration for my next one
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>>125255469
I can't stop. I love them, but sometimes they're fucking retarded.
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>>125255293
>she's literally the fucking Queen of Blood.
Wow. You're retarded. I'm not replying anymore. This is Eileen=Wetnurse levels of dumbass.

>>125255454
She could've found a husband or anything else. Whoring is a pretty low profession. an ex-noble probably wouldn't choose it unless they were completely rejected by their family.
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What weapons would you recommend against amygdala for a strength build? What is it weak/resistant to?
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>>125255306
the fuck is a power weapon
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Good fight guys, rip
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>>125255326
is there a lot of twink pvp in the dlc area??
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>>125255528
>sometimes
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I was thinking about making an ayyy arc build but I don't want to put points into things other than arc vit and end. Which weapon should I use before getting tentacles? How low a level can I get through the DLC with?
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>>125255042
>- "Queen Annalise partakes in these blood dreg offerings, so that she may one day bear the Child of Blood, the next Vileblood heir."

And none of that hints toward her trying to be like Yharnam. There's nothing saying that Yharnam took blood dregs.

>To think, it was corrupted blood that began this eldritch liaison.

That's not clear enough. Oedon has been around for a long time, it could just as easily be referring to his first contact with humans.
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>>125255502
Oh right, BL190, NG+3.
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>>125255568
yes, especially the hunter's nightmare
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>>125255468
thank
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>>125255613
Well...
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So what's the verdict on old hunter bone? Some here swear by it, some think it's shit. Thoughts?
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>>125255551
hunter's axe is probably the best weapon for fighting amygdala. the sweeps make it easy to hit her arms, and the r2 can hit her head even without charging
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>>125255669
Use LHB and Tonitrus you can switch to HMS since they require the same stats.
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>>125255521
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>>125255042
Mergo is the baby in the nightmare mate.
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>>125255858
it's fun
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>>125255675
>There's nothing saying that Yharnam took blood dregs.
But there's plenty saying she carried the child of blood. And we know Annalise is trying to do the same.
>Oedon has been around for a long time, it could just as easily be referring to his first contact with humans.
Wow. You're thick as fuck. "liason" is a word used to euphemistically talk about fucking.
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>>125255884
Looks good, anon.

>>125255858
It's a very good item that's super fucking edgy so it's frowned upon.
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>>125255042
>>125255290
>>125255358
>Oedeon evidence given
Cheers famalams.

>>125255293
The Queen of Blood is just the queen of the Vilebloods dude. It's not some prophecised super being.

Arianna was
>Related to Yharnam and the Pthumerians (and therefore related to, but not a member of, the Vilebloods)
>A young, healthy, fertile woman
She was top choice for Oedeon's baby. If she was *more* corrupt than Annalise why the fuck would Oedeon want to put a child in her? She'd be an anorexic undead wreck confined to a chair.
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>>125255165
What the fuck are you talking about? The Vilebloods are the servants of Annalise that desire blood rapture and the Shadows are the servants of Yarnham that desire blood rapture. They both drop the rune.
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>>125255772
>perfect L2 to kil them all
>he use the snake instead
you disgust me anon
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>>125255993
>Looks good.
Thanks, but I'm still looking for THE armor set for him. I doubt it exists in Bloodborne.
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>>125255326
what's the beginning story (military veteran, scion?)
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>>125255858
it's fine, but it's definitely not worth ~8 points, and if you're going to spend ~8 points you really should be spending ~11 for augur or even ~13 for gauntlets

it makes the most sense on a single-stat build that is flush with points, or on something like an MLGS or Wheel build that is obligated to put points in arcane anyway
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>>125255921
>Mergo is the baby in the nightmare mate.
I know. How we can hear his voice anywhere and everywhere in the game but never see him? Notice how his pram is empty? He's formless like his daddy.
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>Amelia still has no lore
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>>125255502
Anyone?
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>>125255796
Anon stop
You're doing things to me
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>>125255375
took a pic for you
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Yo, I had to remake Ailing Loran so I could grab some extra bastards. Anyone wanna just 420x blaze it through the whole dungeon with me up til layer 3? I hate this place.
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>>125256196
CAUSE FUCK HER~
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>>125255978
Yes, it is, and Oedon has probably fucked people other than Arianna. Especially when his contact with his humans first began, if he really is Mergo's father. Plus there is no evidence that Oedon knows Arianna exists at all, and she is the only character in the game confirmed to have Corrupted blood. If the cord had come from a child of annalise's, this would make sense.

I'm not to sure about the child of blood being the same in both annalise and yharnam's case, either. With annalise, it specifies that the child of blood is the next vileblood heir.
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Which Chicago is best for a 25skl/50blt? Lost/uncanny/normal?
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>>125256249
Oh, thanks. I kinda ran from those monstrosities.
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>>125255289
Almost choked I laughed so hard.
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>>125256196
What lore would she have?
You really think every Vicar has something super important and special about them?
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>>125256249
>>125255375
and after his death. I didn't get completely covered because I accidentally rolled away from his blood-splosion.
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>>125256330
>Plus there is no evidence that Oedeon knows Arianna exists at all
From her Third Umbilical Cord:
>Every Great One loses its child, and then yearns for a surrogate, and Oedon, the formless Great One, is no different.
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>>125256330
>knows Arianna exists

Er, Annalise. Damn all these A-names.
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>>125256112
professional
technically I guess skill is base too
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>>125254460
I don't think we're gonna get connected, I'll just keep throwing myself at him for now.
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>>125256463
>What lore would she have?
Any at all would be cool.

>You really think every Vicar has something super important and special about them?
I mean, they're the fucking head of the church and she's the last beast boss you fight before you step into the world of Bloodborne, so both in terms of story and in terms of game mechanics she seemed pretty important, yeah.

The only other Vicar we meet in-game is Laurence. That's pretty huge, family.
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>>125256571
Are you set for world wide?
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He survived!
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>>125256330
Pthumerian are said to be superhumans and somehow had a whole thing with birthing great one babies.

Vilebloods probably like getting fucked by great ones more then yeh normal human, who probably go insane and other bad shit.

Child of blood sounds like a special vileblood not sure what the connection is, they seem to target hunter blood.
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is anyone else a ayy whirligig saw? how do you make the pvp fun for you? any tips?
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>>125256774
i always wonder what's his dialogue
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>>125256712
Yeah, I was ringing at the lamp if that matters.
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Any DLC loot tables anywhere?

Or more specifically, Can the trash mobs in the first area (hunter's nightmare) be farmed for blood gems? (BL10 here)
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>>125256874
Slap fire gems on it
BZZZ
??
happy hunting
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is the bowblade /fun/

bit reluctant to make a build since ranged combat has never been fun in from games
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>>125256914
He kinda cries while laughing.
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>>125256948
Another anon here, still need help?
If so what is the pass?
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>>125257041
I'm doing a even build of skl/blt eventually getting to 40/40 probably (50/50 if I go to 110)and I'm really enjoying it.
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>>125257254
Pass is ludpls, ringing at lamp.
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>>125257041
The blade is fun if you really, REALLY loved the Gold Tracer. Otherwise it's incredibly fucking boring.

The bow is fun if you have obscene bloodtinge and deep chalice gems and is worth a playthrough, and then it's the most boring weapon in the game.
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>>125257004
>Can the trash mobs in the first area (hunter's nightmare) be farmed for blood gems?
Old hunters drop some mediocre gems that are much better than what main game offers up to Amelia though.
Best DLC gems are 'locked' after 3 bosses when you reach Fishing hamlet. Brains drop 22.3 physical droplets + usual variations.
There are also half decent lightning gems from lightning wizards in FH if you're going ARC.
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What should I prioritise stats wise with Ludwig, /bbg/?

Also, do you think roar and anime bone are fitting tools for him to use? Maybe augur too? I also think the lead and blue elixirs kinda fit ("found in most desperate nightmares". "numbs the brain")

Still not sure about prospector's chest though, due to hair clipping through the giant collar, might go and try on the Executioner's
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I'm stuck on defile corrupted chalice floor 3 with Amygdala. Im running an edge lord Chikage build and am BL105. This fight is actually harder than Lawrence the first vicar for me. Any advice?
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How hard is the PvP in this one? I only really PvPed in DeS and I was fucking terrible.
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>>125255521
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>>125255521
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>>125257507
How do u upload to 4chan from your ps4?
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>>125257004
>BL10 here
Nothing decent will drop with low Discovery, just vials and other consumables.
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>>125256014
>The Queen of Blood is just the queen of the Vilebloods dude. It's not some prophecised super being.

No, the Queen is the one who bears the Child of Blood. This is explicit.

>This rune resonates with servants of the Queen, carrier of the Child of Blood

>She was top choice for Oedeon's baby. If she was *more* corrupt than Annalise why the fuck would Oedeon want to put a child in her?

Because Oedon only wants to fuck specific chicks.

>Every Great One loses its child, and then yearns for a surrogate, and Oedon, the formless Great One, is no different. To think, it was corrupted blood that began this eldritch liaison.
>Human or no, the oozing blood is a medium of the highest grade, and the essence of the formless Great One, Oedon. Both Oedon, and his inadvertent worshippers, surreptitiously seek the precious blood.
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>>125257737
USB stick or share to twitter, open image in new tab, add ":orig" at the end to get the original size. Save as .jpg
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>>125255521
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>>125257254
Well that was better than I ever did on my own, reringing.
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>>125257507
he used the moonlight blade, not the anime bone though I suppose he'd have known the art of quickening
no beast roar because that's heretical
also stat priorities depend on what the build is for and what your stopping point is
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for Djura can you kill the beasts the first time you enter Yharnam, don't fight him, come back after seeing Paarl and he'll be your friend?
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>>125257041
>>125257041
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu8Udg2NwjY&list=PLDYupuoGmGBF7LuglEafnAuXg-1bNDuqF&index=2

It's okay if you like to hit people who dodge spam from range, and the blade moveset is interesting.

It's really boring though if you just go full tinge and only shoot arrows. There is basically a light shot, strong shot, charged shot, and an attack that pokes with an arrow head.
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>>125257737
>How do u upload to 4chan from your ps4?

is it normie of me to want a PSN app for 4chan?
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>>125258052
Yes.
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Saif-bros, what's the highest damage you get with top-tier gems?
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>>125258052

yes
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Can someone give me a link of a good play trough with commentary?
Have alot of work to do and would like to hear some insightful stuff while I sorta watch it.
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>>125257527
kite and bait attacks the first half and hit the head when she leaves it on the floor, you can put in an attack on the arm if you feel brave when she spits lasers/that brown fluid

when it rips the arms off get between the rear legs, it will trigger a jump, walk a couple steps forward (aligned with the tail) and do a charge attack. it will hit her head. then turn 180 to get between the legs again. sometimes while waiting for jump she does a flurry of attacks with explosions, they wont hit you but when you hear its done just turn 180 hit the head again.
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Any kind anon has a bow build for BL 98?
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>>125257527
Go get the bowblade and cheese her.
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>>125258261
yeah get the bow then level to 98 lmao
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>>125256774
But what exactly is he?
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>>125258261
get bow, rank up bloodtinge and skill to 50 or whatever desired level.
put other stats in vit, and end.

now shoot shit.
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>>125257756
Item discovery affect how frequently things drop, not IF they drop. Every character starts with 100 discovery, and it doesn't go up all that much on its own unless you pump ARC.
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>>125258568
Do the bow really benefits from skill? Or is only the sword part that scales with skl?
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>>125258575
ID affects quality of drops, that was the point.
Also you can equip 3 eye runes + Milkweed and get 333 ID on BL4 without pumping ARC at all.
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>>125257507
Ludwig probably knew Gehrman, but he wasn't an Old Hunter as far as we know, since he was the Church's first. I'm assuming that designation means he wasn't taught by Gehrman, so basically you using animebone or not depends on your interpretation of the timeline for his chalice diving for his sword.

Assuming it was chalice diving, anyway. Might not've been, since it doesn't say what other weapon he employed to hunt. I doubt something like that was found on the surface though.

>Still not sure about prospector's chest though

This was talked about when you made the character, but that's probably fine, because it is absolutely 100% not what Ludwig wore.
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>>125250734
Anybody Lv. 127 or above fancy helping me against Orphan? He's fucking my shit so bad.
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>>125255521
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>>125257507
>Ludwig
>Blond
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>>125258789
skill for the sword, bloodtinge for the bow.

so unless you want to use some other weapon like the chicago for when you don't want to use bullets, some skill may be in order.
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>>125258906
Master race, you kike.
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>>125258865
Are you on NG+?
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>>125258907
Alright fuck SKL then, thanks anon
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>>125252115
Why couldn't they just give us respecc stuff like in DS2?
Running through chalice dungeons is fucking boring.
I could do defiled Amygdala in my sleep.
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>>125257527
just stay in front and get him to do head slams or shit with his arms. Run in and hit the arm/head. Rinse repeat.

Gets trickier of course in the next phase, but you can still approach it the sameway.
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>>125259125
b-but I like the sword mode...
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>>125259007
>007
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>>125259198
they didn't think anyone would want to pvp
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>>125259035
NG+4
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Anyone need help with something?
chalice/main story bosses?
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>>125259447
I need help with Laurence if you don't mind.
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>>125259447
A snake bit my penis, I think it's full of venom now. Can you suck it out for me, anon?
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Can't beat Ludwig and getting so heated. I hate being bad at souls games.
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>>125259507
set up a pass
i'll do my best
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>>125259532
if the best fags can beat ludwig, so can you anon.

those fuckers don't even understand how to fucking dodge.
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>>125257957
Nothing too special, just random co-op invasions in the DLC areas

Was thinking 25/25 str/skl and 50 vit minimum, since I'm gonna be using both guidance runes

>>125258839
I was thinking more of the "a technique particular to the first hunters" part. Since Ludwig was the very first hunter of the Church (which of course does not imply that he was hunting during the time of Gehrman) I would assume that he did find out about this art from one of the first hunters overall, if not Gehrman himself

And yes, he probably wore something very specific, but the shawls are only big on the Prospector's and Executioner's sets, there isn't much choice otherwise
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>Pat calls in an Old Hunter to help him with Ludwig
>He still gets fucked
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>>125259641
Pass will be bbglarry. Thank you!
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>>125259532
>literally flawless Orphan
>still die to fucking spider bell lady hordes
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>>125259719
ringing at fog door
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>>125259532
Summon some help like a fucking coward pussy like I did.
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>Reiterpallasch
>doesn't scale off Bloodtinge
For wat purpose
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>>125259816
At fog door, ringing as well.
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>>125255521
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>>125259712
>fucking up
>with Valtr at your disposal
these faggots are the worst
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>>125259712
he dies at least three times doing that.

>>125259969
he used Henriett, probably becuase he doesn't know fucking shit about Valtr.
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>>125259891
because it's just a sword with a gun on it
the gun part does
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>>125259891
Do you just not know how weapons work, anon?
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>>125259816
So sorry about that death. Shall we give it another go?
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>church pick
>burial blade

They're both so damn fun, how can I choose?
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>>125260051
You can only summon him after 1o vermin right?
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>>125258802
Because its suppah easy kawaii to even reach maria, let alone beat ludwig, at BL4. literally fucking kill yourself, you and your hypotheticals.
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>>125260217
until we kill it anon
i have all day
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Why can't old hunter npcs into evading AOE attacks?
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>>125260248
The one least used.
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>>125260248
I'd go with the pick, the BB is fucking awesome but just having the useless by itself handle on my back all the time really bothered me for some reason.
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>you can see ludwig's holy cloth thingy
noice
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>>125259712
>He gets the Moonlight Blade
>Goes back and kills the head
>"How very Soma of you"

Why does Pat love mercy killing so much?
>>
>redlettermedia recommends the Bloodborne DLC
get ready for more easy invasions
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>>125260623
at least sometimes people on youtube comments aren't stupid.
>Pat states quality weapons are dead while wielding one.
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>>125259712
HE'S SO BAD
LIKE WHAT THE FUCK
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>>125260059
>>125260212
Alright, why does the Rifle Spear scale with BLT then?
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>>125259698
well holy familiy, you can hit level 81 with 45 vit and 25 skill but you're officially in pvp meta range and your cosplay build will be kinda weak with that jank stamina for such a stamina hunger weapon plus low overall damage since you only hit the two soft caps
you could go to 114 with 50str/50vit/15 end and be an actual threat but your co-op range will be NG+ and beyond probably
>>
>>125260346
I managed to get it to its second phase after you died and managed to get it to circle around me, but I got trapped in its arms and ded. Another go!
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>>125260763
well bloodtinge increases GUN damage.

so which mode uses the damage type that bloodtinge scales with?
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>>125257638
jesus christ someone put him out of his misery
>>
>let's players

Can we not
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>Watching an LP of the Old Hunters on YouTube because I want to see how other people fared on their first go
>They're using the memeblade with chalice gems
>BL 100 in NG
>Still talking shit about how good they are and pretending the shit is challenging.

Triggered.
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>>125251094
>MFW he walks like a crab during phase 2
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>>125260994
The Best Friends are a strange case. I hate to love them and I love to hate them.
>>
>first cursed radial fire gem
>fire attack up 22.3%
>add fire 13
>stamina increased by 3.2

Good gem?
>>
>>125260963
hurr durr
hurr durr
>>
>>125260717
where?
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>>125260893
that one in the ash armor was you?
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>>125260918
>the Rifle Spear and Reiterpallasch are basically the same thing
>their scaling is way different
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>>125260839
I'm probably gonna get rekt either way, since I don't plan to farm any chalice gems or anything

We'll see I guess, just killed Ludwig, so just going to continue through the DLC with my sinister bell on all the time
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>>125261179
I'm using the Charred Hunter set with the Hunter hat.
>>
Wanna KISS Kos!
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>>125260994
Go easy on them senpai.

Beating the first dlc boss makes you part of an elite 6 percent club.

Not everyone can be as good as you.
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Does Gehrman keep the Doll clean?
The clothes are certainly immaculate. What about the rest?

So much white goop coming out when you hit her...
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>>125261129
Great gem from hotdog
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>>125253178
LADY MARIA

I'M A ROBIN

LADY MAAAARIIA
>>
>>125261112
watching best friends is a way for us to relive our first playthrough.

watching them just fuck up and ruin literally everything they try, and watching them succeed while still being such shitty players instills in us the same frustration we had when attempting to do things right and failing.
>>
>>125260752
I mean, they beat the base game without summons or help or anything. He clearly said he doesn't give a fuck, he just wants to play more of the game because he loves it
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>>125261253
then i enter someone else world and fight him with the HoH rune
that faggot doesn't stop healing holy shit
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>>125261348
God damn do I want that sketch comic.
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>>125261348
Splish splash?
>>
DROP
YOUR
SHIELD
>>
I WANT TO SPELUNK. WE USED TO SPELUNK SOMETIMES. I HAVE SEVERAL ELIGIBLE CHARACTERS WHO ARE SET TO SPELUNK TO THEIR HEART'S CONTENT.

COME. LET US EXPLORE. THE TOMB BECKONS
>>
>>125261348
plip
plop
plip
plop
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>>125261224
for fucking sake.

both weapons have guns on them.
BLT scaling only affects the fucking gun damage.
neither of them get any damage boost from BLT to their melee damage.
their scaling in bloodtinge is low because BLT damage is also increased by phys up gems, which you can slap three onto those mother fuckers.
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>>125252081
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>>125261449
What a nerd, using my password
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>>125261354
It's like they're so shitty at the games they play but watching them makes me feel like I have friends
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>>125260994
>>125261112
>>125261284
>CHARGED R2 CHARGED R2 CHARGED R2
>Man, this is really challenging, I love that I'm having trouble right now. WELP, TIME TO SUMMON HELP.
>Pat speaking like he's the be all end all Souls / BB encyclopedia while playing the game like a pooper.

I like them but holy fuck do their Souls LPs flare up my autism.
>>
>>125261535
Do you have a glyph, friend?
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>>125261617
Hot damn, BSB. Must've been an executioner that succumbed to the scourge.
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>>125261757
>they never try to parry
>they never transform their weapon
>they just use charged R2's for every thing
they are playing on the basest of planes.
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>>125261617
does that bsb go into different phases? I never even touched him in my playthroughs.
>>
>>125261253
>>125261253
anon someone else is using your password too
and on laurence boss too
can you change your password?
>>
>>125261449
Apologies, anon. I really hate this boss.
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>>125261941
>I deliberately skipped content

why.jpg
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>>125261843
I have an FRC Lower Loran I poked my head into last night briefly. We could see about that. I think there's also an untouched FRC Isz glyph on another buy I made.
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Can anyone help me out with Vicar Laurence? I am a pure shitter and need a little help.

pass is shitisuc, will be waiting at the bottom of the steps with Valtr
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>tfw bloodborne has occupied your thoughts all fucking year
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>>125261960
bbgvicar should work fine.
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>>125262073
I'll explore with you, though I can't guarantee any skill on my part. Haven't ran through many FRC dungeons aside from the spreadsheet ones.
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>>125261535
I'd spelunk but I'm trying to find arcane gems now that I have access to FRC Isz. Which is just me killing that poor Keeper in the corner again and again.
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>>125262241
Just play it cool and don't trigger traps. We'll do fine.
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>>125261757
goddamn those charged R2s
AAAAA
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>>125262185
omw anon let me refill my bloodvials
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>>125262073
Not him but I can tag along too if you need one more
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>>125262167
Watcha thinkin' about, Anon?
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>>125262269
We'll be happy to have you once your build is ready. I enjoy chalices enough to have several yharnam stones. I'm gonna be pushing for more /bbg/ tomb expeditions now.

>>125262420
It's not about "need". If you'd like to come though, that would be welcome. The more the merrier.
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>>125262331
Sounds good. Share a glyph and I'll join.
>>
Is 8 end enough for tricked bloodletter and bow?
>>
anyone want to help defeat undead giant? FRC dungeon, trying to get to hotdog for the prized radial fire waning. reply to this and i'll set a password n we'll try SRRC.
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>>125262407
Anon, why'd you leave?
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>>125262167
It has just occurred to me that that drawing might be inspired by someone suffering from harlequin ichthyosis
>>
So what is the deal with vermin? It kinda seems like they don't actually exist given that people can just "choose" to not see them, that there's "mercy to the madness" and the whole "uphold the illusion" thing with the League's oath, but then there's the Madaras twins finding them in their snake
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>>125262698
What layer is the giant on? I can help
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>>125262436
The cosmos, of course!
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>Fighting a Boss for the first time with Ludwig's Drakesword
>Only do charged R2s WITH bolt paper
>Still can't fucking beat him BL100 with an old Hunter summon
Fuck me man. How is someone who's been playing Souls since 2009 not more self aware of his shameful practices?
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Any Holy Moonlight Sword webms?
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Time for spelunking fellas.

>Chalice: Lower Loran Root
>Rituals: Fetid, Rotted, Cursed
>Glyph: et5h4jbn
>Password: bbgtomb

Don't kill Sinister Bell Maidens. PvP is fun.


>>125262583
>>125262420
Let's do it.
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>>125262698
I'll help. BL?

Are you savescumming layer 3?
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>>125262932
He gets tunnel vision and ain't that good to be quite honest anon.
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>>125262774
well in the story he's going through a metamorphosis by dreaming dreams that last years, decades, then centuries

basically rom
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>>125262907
2nd layer of 758v8txa. i'll set password: bbg111
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>>125262947
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>>125262981
Ringing in the halls between the lanterns.
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>>125263239
Stylish
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WE GOT REAL FUCKIN' CLOSE. Screw Laurence.
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>>125255521
new build didn't do too well in the fc but the invasion game ridiculous
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>>125263073
i might as well. when you save scum, do you have to refight all the enemies or not?
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>>125263239

Thanks, Time to complete my arcane build and get it.
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>>125263217
Okay I'll make my way down to you
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>>125263395
Just unlock the boss gate and then backup your save and then all you have to do is just run to it each run after you reload. If you're savescumming I'll play up to layer 3 and we can grind the boss if you want.

I need rocks and wouldn't mind a few fire abyssals.
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>>125262167
It's been 4 fucking years the Souls series has occupied all my thoughts now, even my fucking dreams.
I think I'm addicted.
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who /makecontact/ after a PVP kill?
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>>125262779
The way I saw Vermin as like a germ that was undetectable in small quantities. They eventually turn men into beasts. Holy men have high mental fortitude so they get a larger buildup of vermin. Same with hunters.

More vermin=stronger beast.
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>choir leggings
>dem tights
>dose boots
>ruined by weird shorts
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>>125263109
Neat
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>>125263369
dude those fucking 180 tracking moves are a piece of shit
what the fuck laurence
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>>125263585
I only do that if the fight was strange/pathetic
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So, what ARE the old hunters?
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So I just beat Orphan of Kos. What a fucking great DLC. This was my first blood build and it was fun, but I'm starting to get kind of bored with it now. I plan on doing an arcane build next.
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>>125263585
It's the only gesture for a true broccoli.
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>>125255306
>Pat is talking out of his ass, based on his own poor understanding of a Fromsoft game.
Business as usual. Though to be honest? He's using a quality weapon, WITH a quality build as he's saying that shit.
>>125255557
I assume he means strength weapons, or ones that stagger. He is also of the belief that you should commit to a single weapon and playstyle. Which is insane, because the game is so much easier to play if you level several weapons at once, and just use the one appropriate to the task.
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>>125263546
i was just fighting undead giant with someone, still bbg111. i'll grab both of you if you're interested and i'll get savescumming ready after undead giant and i'll post back here.
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>>125263470
>arcane build
>moonlight sword
i don't think so anon
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>>125263715
OLD hunters. Ones that never left the dream
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>e-celeb shit
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>>125263851
hmm good question.

Whats the optimal build for moonlight blade?
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>>125263878
I thought Gerhman kicked you out and stayed alone?
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>>125263930
Quality, ya dunce.
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>>125263851
Arcane is pretty alright for the moonlight sword. You could farm nourishing gems, arcane scaling, or flat for the moon beams that hit up to 300+
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>>125256232
If you're still around and need help? Sure I'll pop in.
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>>125263826
I'm sorry anon I couldn't enter the fog lol
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>>125263826
Okay I just made it down here and I'm ringing by the lamp
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>>125264079
Yeah, still here. Password is bbgvicar
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>cursed tempering damp bloodgem x37
fucking...physical normies...
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>>125263239
what is that build?

>>125264084
>>125264164
no problem, i'll pick both of you up.
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>>125263851

???
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Ahh Kos... Or some say Kosm. Do you hear our prayers?
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Charred hunter anon (Wilhem?) someone else is also using that password in the exact location on laurence
(also i'm using the HoH rune)
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I made a FRC isz root chalice and I got to the 4th floor boss....Ebrietas with a HUGE pit in the middle of the fucking arena. this is hell.
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>>125264265
>I don't know how scaling works
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>>125264084
>>125263826
I'm gonna play up to layer 2/3. If you get the other guy don't wait for m
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>>125264043
>so powerful that his death nearly killed you

Jesus dick.
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>>125263715
The early hunters. There's not much meaning behind the name, they were just some of the first hunters.
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>>125264371
Imagine if you were a bowblade user though.

so easy.
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>>125264379

You clearly don't.
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I've never really lamed out a Souls game before, like summoned or cheesed a Boss / area. I've played through BB dozens of times and want to see everything the game has to offer, so I'm going to summon all the available NPCs in one run.
I figure while I'm at it I'll just cheese everything possible in the lamest way possible just to see what it's like.

So, what's the most OP weapon? What are the cheesiest methods to deal with everything? Stuff like using the music box on Gascoigne or getting him stuck on gravestones for example.
I want the most shitter run ever.
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Okay so Layer 1 had Fading Lake in the first side bonus and Ritual 5 everywhere else.

Let's find the boss now. Maybe I'll die less.
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>>125264447
But what are they doing in the game?
I know you find what inspired Gehrman to do the Doll, but that's all.
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>>125264371
Can she charge into it?
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>>125264312
No, fuck you
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>>125263906
I have to feel like I have friends somehow, this is the easiest way.
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>>125264393
>come out of fog gate
>get squished

man i didnt think undead giant would be this big of a headache.
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>>125262779
Hallucinations caused by bestial spongiform encephalopathy. This is why we don't eat the beasts we kill, kids.
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Gerhman knew laurence but didn't knew ludwig eh?
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>>125264371
Holy shit that's ridiculous

At least she can't get you with her charge, can she fly over the pit?
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>>125264516
>muh A rating
on 100 base damage
it's garbo kid, like the amygdala arm and bom/bb
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>>125264558
Top tier Fading Lake?

After the boss I'll be gone for around ten minutes, gonna eat some dinner.
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>>125264371
can she fly over it and body slam you?
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>>125263959
Depends on the ending you got. Npc interactions with other hunters indicate that they no longer exist within the dream such as djura

HP lovecraft terms of dreaming. That's why MICOLASH was alive within the dream but not within reality. When gehrmann kills you, you leave the dream the player is more like an ex-hunter like djura, since you are unable to be emboldened by blood echoes.

There's probably a descent into mania with extended life while hunting beasts in the dream
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>>125264614
nah I tried. There's like a force field keeping her from falling in herself, but I can easily fall into it.
>>125264457
yeah for real. She does use her barf way more often when you use ranged attacks on her but it's better than the fucking charge.
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>>125250734
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>>125264661
>Don't do PVP so out of a dozen or so characters I've only went to nightmare frontier once at it was BL 80
>LV12 build
>Need to run nightmare because +10%HP rune.

Jesus fuck this is gonna be a nightmare, isn't it? (pun not intended)
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>>125264371
Glyph?
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>>125264694
see
>>125264043

That "A rating" helps with that, dumbfuck.
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>>125264703
>>125264683
the charge IS a bit easier to dodge because you can just backstep a few times, but this shit is hell. Have to mind where the hole is at all times. There is a barrier preventing her from falling in herself though.
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>>125264872
yeah I love doing 600 damage with a full hit of my r2 instead of 800
lmao what a good investment
>>
What's a good title for an ayyy build? I have the name but I need a cool title.
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Thank god I'm getting 50k souls per keeper kill because this is my 107th kill with one shitty rolled arcane radial

Bitch is payin' for my QS bullets at least.
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>>125264702
Yes top tier. 7% Fire Res or whatever.
>I'll be gone for around ten minutes, gonna eat some dinner.
Bell's ringing at Layer 1 for when you get back. I assume you'd like help moving your own progress ahead a little faster.
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>>125264554
You can get into the back of Isofka clinic by clipping through the gate. If you shoot djura with a pistol 4 times he will fall off the tower and u get ur stake driver.

Theres a video somewhere with the fastest weapons guide. Also witches of hemwick won't spawn the black ghost if u have 0 insight
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>>125264857
hvuggmfs
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>>125264661
Gehrman is generation one of hunters, when few was discovered about beasts and chalices.
Ludwig and Laurence used huge weapon, implying hunters discovered huge beasts.
Maria is probably between these two generations.
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>>125264630
Okay I'm ringing at layer 2 as well now.
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>>125265053
"L2 Bait.webm"
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>>125265053
cauliflower x
memester x
l2ing x
bomwannabe x
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>>125265004

git gud then you autistic faggot.
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>>125264447
They were some of the early hunters that were so brutal and reckless with their blood use that they practically became beasts themselves. When the pissed child of Kos created the Hunter's Nightmare to get revenge on Byrgenwerth, all the crazy hunters were whisked away to the nightmare realm and forced to repeat the same hunt for eternity.
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>>125265135
>>125265167
I mean like a lore-related title.
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>>125264661
Pretty sure he mentions him at one point.
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>>125265119
i'm sorry guys, keep just being dumb. okay, i'll be b-better.
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>>125265104
>Theres a video somewhere
>that shilling Vaati while actively trying to avoid shilling
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Hey man, Byrgenwerth wasn't that bad. They just wanted to become Great.
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>>125264224
Okay, I'll adjust my gemset and ring in on the first lantern in the dlc.
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>Beast cutter
>Boom hammer
>STR weapons
>Super slow moveset
>shit damage
what's the point of being str weapons then? what the fuck miyazaki
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>>125265327
I don't think I can even get through the fog in your world for some reason. We'll see what happens when I get summoned next. Pretty weird
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Can I get some help with Laurence? BL 90, password: laurence

Sitting down next to Valtr's sign.
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What is the best BL for a twink? 43?
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>>125265239
Then how can the player get in and out then?
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>>125265192
>clearly inferior damage
>scaling effects it less than quality
>wrong on all accounts
>you're autistic
:^)
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>>125265415
Me and another anon are waiting by the fog door, boss
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I'm so fucking lost.

What are the differents factions in yharnam, and which one are the "good" one?
Or at last the least nefarious one?
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>>125265427
I put all blunt gems on my boom hammer and even though the AR is low it does a pretty nice amount of damage. 657 dmg if I smack the Doll with an untricked R1. 710 with a tricked R1 and 1,328 with a tricked charged R2.
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Yurie is still best Invasion-Partner.
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>>125265354
I don't care i was googling a List of weapon locations because I forgot where the torch was.

Also I don't k
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>>125265317
Exactly, when he talks about ascending Oedon Chapel.

>Gehrman kills beasts and everyone adores him
>Ludwig comes and is just cooler with his Moonblade and Gehrman gets no more pussy
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>>125265715
this isn't a bioware rpg
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>>125265715
its all perspective really
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>>125265715
I don't know why I'm having so much trouble answering this question.
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Anyone have any half decent black/middle eastern woman sliders this crap is driving me nuts
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>>125265671

>Didn't even post my build
>Being passive aggressive in every post like you're having an autistic attack.

(:^)
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>>125265715
>good
>evil
The road to hell is paved with good intentions
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>>125265798
Fug

I meant to say I don't really know who he is
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I've literally never used a pungent blood cocktail. Why do they cost so much?
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>>125265715
>factions
>good
Go back playing Assassin Creed or something.
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>>125265715
>"good"
What?
This isn't Bioware m8.
Morality is all in perspective.
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LOL undead giant
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>>125266067
read the item description
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>>125265793
She'll never notice you, anon. There's only room for Faksefka in her heart.

Plus Edgar is miles better as an invasion buddy.
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>>125266067
They cheese multiple boss fights super hard.
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@people helping me with undead giant

fuck. fuck.

reringing.
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>>125266161
Literally just lore reasons?
I could buy six cocktails or the uncanny version of the parasite. Just seems kinda dumb.
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There's no way to move a character from an account to another, right?
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>>125266167
>le yurie yuri meme
when will the yurifags go
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>30 insight for ONE chunk

fuck that

how do I into chunk farming?
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>>125265090
Alright back.

Yeah I'll ring the Beckoning Bell.
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>>125266313
Chalice bosses
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>>125265940
3 factions The church , the church of Memphis and the hunters.

2 of the factions were doing literally the same thing while hunters clean shit up.

The only truly good person in the game was the old man in the church
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>>125266067
They're great against Loran Darkbeast and Bloodstarved Beast for Example. I believe almost every beast reacts to them and is distracted for a while.
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>>125266313
remake normal ailing loran
kill first boss

i guess, i did it that way, there's probably faster ways
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>>125266257
Sorry, after doing chalices for so long I don't even see echo costs any more.
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>>125266313
farm for rocks
aquire chunks instead because rng
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>>125264371
this is fucking awesome lol wtf. some bizarre ass shit in chalice dungeons.
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>>125266237
waiting for you near gate, messenger of kos.
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>>125266167
B..but my Character looks like Fake Iosefka.
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>>125266474
I don't really either, but I was just trying to buy every consumable up to 99/600 at the shop and I noticed I only went up to 10/10 and 89/99 and saw they were 10k a piece.
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>>125266306
You can't get rid of yuri that easily.
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>tfw invaded whilst still building build
>it goes well

I'm proud of her
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>>125265584
Shit sorry there man, I'll keep ringing.
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>>125264371
i want to experience this. What's the ID?
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Anyone feel like fight Logarius?

Blood level 37 PW bbg37
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I want to give the doll some loving by teaching her how to hug.
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My only regret of the dlc is that Yamamura is a waste of an NPC. Could've done more with him
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>>125266821
CUT
U
T
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>>125265681
Huh.... well, I'm ringing, and not getting anything. Still bbgvicar, right?
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>>125264371
>>125264457
>>125264614
>>125264683
>>125264703
>>125264857
>>125266514
>>125266725
>there's people this new
>they post
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@undead giant party. ringing at next bell and will clear out area and set up for savescum. i'll dismiss you and rering when ready (ill post here).
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>>125266704

Almost got him. I'll summon again in just a sec.
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>>125266697
why can you sometimes hit floored enemies? i noticed that i can do it if people survive my fully charged chikage r2 (i can hit them with the follow up while they are on the ground) but it doesnt work every time
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>>125266821
would've been so much better if Eileen ended up in the cell.

>>125266664
>>125266306
>>125266167
why is there so much yuri in Bb?
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>>125267061
latency
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>>125266725
hvuggmfs

have fun! I only remember 2 other bosses. the brainsucker and then watchers. I don't remember the 3rd.
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Can anyone post an ideal BL98 rakuyo builf please
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>>125267083
>so much yuri in bb
>literally only adella if you have a female hunter
???
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making new arcane build

saif,church pick or saw spear for melee weapon? i know saw spear is most likely the best of them for an arcane build but it´s pretty boring

halp
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>>125266697
IT WAS YOU.

I couldn't even move. I want my revenge damn it
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>>125266965
Still bbgvicar, nothing's changed
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>>125267083

Technically there's yuri in everything because of how delusional yurifags are.
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>>125267173
50vit
50skl
20end
ur welcome
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>>125267019
I've just gotta solo the undead giant

>>125267220
I made my Saw spear fire for beasts and shit and my saif is bolt for PvP. The saif is so much fun.
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>>125265715
School of Mensis : made losta research, found an old brain, are okay.
Byrgenwerth : are assholes, created a vascuous spider.
Healing Church : the big bad.
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>>125267220
Is the spear really the best melee for arcane? I'm going for ayy but I need something to use before then.
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>>125267173
50VIT
50SKL
The rest is up to you. Why the fuck do you even ask it?
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>>125255796
god damnit boner

fucking why?
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>>125267395
Actually Yen do you want to co-op this shit? I'm gonna give it a couple attempts but I find undead giant thoroughly unenjoyable
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>quality build
>get into the DLC with this character
>still can't find the perfect weapon from it
using the saw cleaver really make the other weapons look like shit right?
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>>125267220

Anything works really, saif and pick have some interesting movesets. Saw spear is still godlike, just everyone is probably tired of it by now.
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>>125267486
Yes unfortunatly, its boring but its the best option
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>>125264457
>>125264614
>>125264683
>>125264703
>>125264857
Are you guys actually fucking serious, this has been known since near release.
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>>125267184
>implying the research hall girls aren't slave to Maria's cool beauty

I mean it's a corpse kind of cool, but still.
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>>125250734
Dont have ps plus now but im buying it after work tommorow, Whats the normal level for PVP and NG+ help?
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>>125267665
That's fine, I've never really used the spear that much so using it as a main until ayy will be new to me.
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>>125267609
Use the Moonlight sword, idiot.
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>>125267564
I just finished soloing him myself. I can ring my bell at the lamp if you want
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>>125267083
POST MORE ADELLA!
I THIRST FOR CORRUPT NUNS
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>>125267709
>implying that stockhold syndrome level of dependancy is anything like lesbian attraction
take off your goggles faggot
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>>125266965
You set to worldwide, anon?
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>>125267694
You do realize how many people that dropped the game at release came back for the DLC, right?

They're even more prominent on twitch.
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Why are there so many great waifus in BB? Some of them aren't even human and they're still waifu as fuck.
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>>125267262
Sorry to give up, but I've been ringing for awhile now and I'm not connecting with you, so I'm going to stop.
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>>125267913
You do realize you're a newfag and you need to fucking shut up and lurk, right?
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>>125267446
>school of mensis
>ok
>that fucking body snatching/kidnapping racket
>ok
yeah anon that's cool and everything but you're retarded
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>>125267869
>stockhold syndrome
I chuckled
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>>125267395
when i save scum, can i just save my character in the chalice dungeon? or is that a no go.
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>>125267812
Yeah that would be cool, same pw
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>>125267694
>buy game at release
>beat it
>plat it, don't fuck with FRC shit because tedious
>come back for DLC

yes, I'm serious.
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>>125267986
Because the game was made by japs. Its just japs doing what japs do best
>>
I'll be ringing the small bell at the second layer lamp.
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>>125267173
I like not doing a bl98 build so that I'm not a huge fucking faggot and leveling my characters to PvP and PvE with people who actually enjoy playing the game
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>>125268161
Okay I rang my bell
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Cainhurst boss anyone? Pass bbg3
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>>125268129
it's when you have an account that's being traded against your will, very emotionally manipulative stuff
>>
Alright fags, I figured out how HMLS works:
I tested against lower pthumeru layer 4 mobs, there are two just near the bonfire that are sitting down, so I'm assured no CHs alter the data.

I tested untricked and tricked R1 and R2, didn't test tricked L2 because I was bored.

I found that untricked has a 0.7 multiplier to the Arcane AR on both moves, applied before the move modifier is used. The ecuation for the output damage is (Phys + Arc*0,7)*modifier.
Tricked R1 doesn't have said multiplier, so the output is just (Phys+Arc)*modifier. The modifier for both tricked and untricked R1 seem to be 1.0, as expected.

The tricked R2 works completely different:
The game factors two hitboxes, one for the blade and another for the wave, and each one scales exclusively off one damage stat. The blade damage is 1.2*Phys AR, and the wave damage is 3*Arc AR. if you hit both, the damage would be 1,2*Phys + 3*Arc.

All the physical AR counts as blunt, I suspect the weapon has no slash damage on any attack, and it definitely has piercing damage on untricked R2 (duh).

More info to come soon.
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>>125268184
Well it's fucking great, they should keep doing it.
>>
>>125268180
>these are the new Souls "fans"
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>>125268141
Pretty sure that's fine, I just go straight to settings and upload/copy my save.
>>
I'm BL130. Any chance of PVP and coop?
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>>125268038
Apologies, anon, but thank you for your time.
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>>125265004
what are you talking about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpExmF0iWb4&ab_channel=Alakdak

0:16
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>>125268225
What level do you usually stay at anon?
Im personally getting bored of this 98 meta circle jerk
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>>125268127
>getting this buttdevastated that his school was shitted on
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>>125268350
I liked the game enough but PVP was a shitshow and that's my main reason for playing post-game content. Only two areas with any sort of reliable PVP kinda killed my interest in farming gems for PVP.

If that's bad, that's fine. I stop playing games when they start to feel like a chore since I want to have fun.
>>
>>125268434
As people have been saying in past threads, 140 is a really solid sweetspot for invading/being invaded if you're not gonna stick to a specific community meta.
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HEAR OUR PRAYERS KOS

HEAR THEM YOU BITCH

YOU OWE US EYES

YOU OWE US
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>>125268370
A small chance.
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>>125267184
>fake Iosefka and Yurie
>Iosefka and fake Iosefka
>Iosefka and female Good Hunter
>fake Iosefka and female Good Hunter
>Lonely Old Dear and female Good Hunter
>Young Yharnam Girl and female Good Hunter
>Analise and female Good Hunter
>Adella and female Good Hunter
>Arianna and female Good Hunter
>Arianna and Adella
>Adeline and female Good Hunter
>Yharnam and female Good Hunter
>Eileen and female Good Hunter
>Yharnam and female Good Hunter
>Wetnurse and female Good Hunter
>Vicar Amelia and female Good Hunter
>Ebrietas and female Good Hunter
>Ebrietas and Alter of Despair
>Rom and female Good Hunter
>Maria and female Good Hunter
>Maria and Research Hall Patients
>Doll and Maria
>Doll and female Good Hunter
>Winter Lantern and female Good Hunter

Anon pls
>>
you guys wanna hear this kicking theory i came up about the vermin while taking a shower?
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>>125257638
thats pretty gud
>>
>yfw DaS2 has the fastest combat in the series
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>>125268475
what
anon I was saying that they were bad
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Beast mode + Beast Cleaver = Basacar?
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>>125268314
>>125268129
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Ringing again, I always seem to tap at the worst moments
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>>125268574
>kos
>not kosmlady

fucking for shame
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>>125268574
I read that as Kazuhira Miller and for some reason its was perfect.
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>>125268429
So what's the best build for the moonlight sword then?
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>>125268370
absolutley
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>>125268687
are you joking? DaS2 felt like fucking molasses
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>>125268730
Damn, right?
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>>125268631
>this is what yurifags actually believe
wew
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>>125265715
in bloodborne
-yarhnam
vicars
dream hunters
church hunters
choir scientists
powder kegs hunters
-periphery of yarhnam
witches
snakes
-cainhurst
vampires
giant fleas
-invisible periphery of yarhnam
summoners
bones amalgams
-nightmare periphery
giants
poison beasts
-mensis nightmare
brains
spiders
puppets
-hunter nightmare
old hunters
-church nightmare
big head patients
alien failures
-fishermen nightmare
fishermen sharks
-chalices
pthumerians
beasts
aliens
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>>125268558
Alright bro il give that a shot. Thanks
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>>125268543
>fun
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>Summon henryk to help me clear some mobs in the forest faster because BL10
>He Shows up
>Moves literally ten fucking feet
>Steps on a rock
>His AI shuts off
Like he will not walk, he will not follow, he will not attack anything I bring to him, what the actual fuck?
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>>125268631
Holy shit, purity overload.
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>>125268631
What's funny is that even if we just count the three of these that are in the actual game the yuri is pretty much neck and neck with the straight pairings.
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>>125268687
lol no
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Ay guys, im pretty new and I have to run through the game twice more, did a bloodtinge build my first run, planning to do a arcane and a quality build for the other two endings.

Anyone interested in running through the game with me once or twice?


http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197985098213/

give me an add if you are, also im weebshit, so there is your warning.
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>>125268819
50/50/50 str/skill/arc
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is this someone from this thread?
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>>125268857
webm makes it pretty apparent that he's joking
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>>125268939
So many factions, and they're all after your ass.

I prefer Dark Souls, at least everyone is insane there.
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so we all know there's like, 1-2 guys continuously shitposting continuously about how much they hate bl98, right

i worry we've acquired our own 4kings meme
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@band of brothers helping me with FRC after undead giant. ready to save scum. ringing bell at lamp layer 3. prepare for hotdog.

>>125269042
how the fuck
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>>125268947
np family
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>>125268429
>bl140 jap with a fully charged r2 hitting for 970
>other webm was uncharged 600, which is what I was using for comparison
cmon burger get real, the arcane mlgs is gimmicky garbo, you can get higher damage with quality and that's just facts
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>>125268687
Hahaha, you can drink a coffee after you hit R1 and wait for the game to transform it into an attack.
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>>125268631
>forgetting young yharnam girl and fake iosefka
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>>125266821
>implying Yamamura isn't a hint to the theme of the next souls game, like Manus and Chester were
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>>125269207
that's loranon
then again that's more in line with frogposting than 4kings posting
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>>125268193
Stunning Deep Sea was in the room you died in. Let's see about that boss door and any further side areas.
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>>125269209

lead elixir mash r1
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>>125268687
DaS2 is the worst game in the series. You couldn't even pay me to play that shit again.
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>>125267694
Kill yourself you chubby autist.

Shitposting because people haven't bothered to do FRC Isz's with that shit in it.
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>>125269436
Cool opinion, kid.
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>>125268857
that's because you're retarded
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"check out my character/pvp webm /bbg/!!!!!" retard checklist

>there's a cannon involved
>there's a whirligig saw involved
>there's a ludwigs user being retarded
>there's a "fashionsouls" involving the cainhurst set with non-cainhurst pieces
>there's a character wearing the cainhurst set but isn't using the chikage/rakuyo/reiterpallasche
>there's a "fashionsouls" involving the crow chest with non-crow pieces
>there's a gehrnam cosplay with gehrnam's set instead of gehrnam cosplay gear
>there's 8 seconds of r1 mashing and a non-visceral kill occurs
>it's a repost of a webm that's already been posted in the past 3 threads
>400+ damage is done to either player in one swing/bullet
>over half a player's health is done in one swing /bullet at any point in the webm
>the webm takes place in a chalice dungeon
>someone replies to this with "b-b-b-but x isn't retarded!!! I know because I do it!!!"
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>>125269207
hopefully
I mean it was pretty bad when we had the false flagging twitch posting but it's back to basically just loranon now
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Why do most of you limit yourself to BL98? I know the hole not being invaded by level 120-150 reddit fags but honestly it seems like 120-150 is more fun and thats what games like this are about. I get that reddit is super faggy etc but honestly when it comes to enjoying a game they seem to be ahead of us. Why let those faggots have fun and we're just sat here in one tiny bbg circlejerk with out 98 metas. Surely going and cunt punting those fags would be more fun
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>>125269394
Eh could be worse I guess. That fucking sage came out of no where.
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>>125269554
XD
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>>125269505

>tfw the das2 guy isnt even quick rolling

Das1 is sooo fast guys
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>>125269554
You forgot
>smug sign while facing the camera
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>>125269568
I know. Sometimes they're louder than everything, other times they're ninjas. Still, should have known the chest guardian was nearby.
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>>125269562
Fuck 98, I don't ever break 90.
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>>125269554
>>125269719
and any executioner+cainhurst shit
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Why did they make Laurence a reskinned Cleric Beast? That cheapens the whole DLC for me. Was it that hard to come up with a new design?
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@messenger of kos, ringing bell at third layer.
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>>125269554
>400+ damage is done to either player in one swing or bullet
yeah gems are such a crutch, that's why I only fight in the gemless pvp chalice with my fellow redditors and bow befroe and after every fight
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how come i keep getting blank dialog box in the dream
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>>125269223
that wasnt a fully charged R2, that was just a regular R2. And I had phys gems in that webm and it only did that damage because thats all the health he had left.
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>>125269795
I thought it was really fucking lame in the trailer and was disappointed at first but then I heard the OST and the subtle changes in the fight and it was actually really fucking cool.

More disappointed in the SHOCKWAVES shit.

>>125269880
>I'm going to shitpost loudly to comfort myself
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>>125269836
Yeah I'm ringing, dunno why it's taking so long
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>>125269935
cause the bitch is sleeping
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>>125269935
Its the doll, when shes sitting on the wall asleep you get an empty dialouge box when you go near her
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>>125269568
Fuck. We both died. Next time leave the tumor until phase 2. That way he spends little to no time in phase 2 where he spams the spin garbage.
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>>125269295
f-fuck
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>>125269457
Chubby? Bitch I'm so skinny you can see the outlines of my ribcage without me even trying to suck it in
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>>125269836
Wait Messenger of Kos is one of our guys? I fought him 2 days ago in Mensis I think. And he blanked out because I ran away using the elevators.
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>>125269935
Doll/Gehrman sleeping.
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>>125269694
it gets better
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>>125269562
Because I can easily finish the game at level 60, that's what's "fun" for me, not everyone is a moronic scrub that browses shitty sites.
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Give me lore on the Blood Starved Beast and Shadow of Yharnam.
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>>125269562
>sure going out and cunt punching those fags would be more fun
it isn't
they don't just have bad builds, they're legitimately bad at the game and fighting them isn't actually fun to do
staying at a lower bl usually promotes just being better at the game because you've done chalices/ng+ at said level and don't have 50 in three stats to use your memeblade r2s with
>>125270020
>shitposting loudly
>not that huge wave of greentext literally eliminating all webms with top tier gems
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Explain something about chalices to me. I'm at the Defiled one. After this I'm gonna make Ihyll and then I only need to make FRC Isz and nothing else?
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>>125269562
They want to gank low level people who are still PVE'ing yet they don't want to play with reddit, because they are normies.
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>>125270146
why putting a bag over a big head?
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>>125270358
>>not that huge wave of greentext literally eliminating all webms with top tier gems

Oh no! Not that! Anything but that! What will we do if we don't have webms of top tier gems?
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>>125270109
Oh does he only do the spin to win in phase two? I didn't know that. I've always gone for the tumor immediately but now I won't.
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>>125270358
Im the guy that posted >>125269562
And youve probably given the best explanation to why people do it, you have granted me eyes anon
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Can I get some orphan of Kos help?

Password squid
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>>125270650
He does it mostly in phase 2. It's 50% of his moveset at that point.
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>waning fire abyssal
>rapid poison effect
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>>125257607
S-sliders please
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>>125269949
so if you were using physical gems and do about the same damage as I was saying, why did you try to push for going arcane with it?
the first r2 is a fully charged r2 that does exactly 973 damage and hits with both the blade and beam, you can see the white charge effect go off
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>>125270250
I don't get the point of this. The movesets are different and DS1 finishes at the same time as DS2 on some of them despite having weight to its animations.
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>>125269554
okay
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@people who helped beat hotdog... should i savescum if i got this??

also after i took this picture i died.
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>>125255521
got you
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>>125271136
That's pretty good. I'd keep it
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>>125270250
But youre showing that ds1 IS faster in this webm
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>>125271062
>The son plays bloodborne
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>>125271245
thanks, i was thinking so too. if either of you two want to complete the dungeon again on your own characters, i'm down.
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>>125270586
so can fill with water
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>>125271331
Ok sure I'll beckon you at the lamp
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>>125271245
Wouldn't you keep going for physical/fire atk up

>>125271331
I'll host? I mostly just want a rock
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Getting rekked at Watchdog defiled, can anyone help?

Oh, and what old hunter is better to summon?
>>
How can Master Willem still be alive?
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>>125271515
look at the back of his neck

dude is not human anymore
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>>125271492
Queen Killer is all you need anon
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>>125271492
Queen Killer is best
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>>125271492
Q u e e n K i l l er
u
e
e
n

K
i
l
l
e
r
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>>125271492
Based Queen Killer. I couldn't get near hotdog, with QK I got him in two tries.
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>>125269554

You forgot

>The guy posting that same reaction pic in every thread when he shitposts
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>>125271443
>>125271445
i'm ringing with resonant bell. one of you oughta come and help the other as well.
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God damn that slam is just outskilling me so hard
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>>125271515
Blood, probably?

While he detested its use he might've succumbed to fight off age and continue his pursuits.
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>>125270650
Fuck, I think my evelyn popped the bubble. Thought it couldn't do that.
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>>125271492
if a fucking sony suit killed the hotdog, you can do it
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Do I lose anything for having killed Simon (other than the cool flavour text)? I haven't actually played through the DLC yet, as I started an ew character when it dropped, but I went in and bumrushed him ie whacked him for 10 minutes for the bowblade
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>>125271574
What's at the back of it?

>>125271765
Yeah I think it did. It's surprisingly difficult getting a hit on him while trying to avoid the bubble. Like I feel as if I can't attack 3/4s of his body for fear of tumor explosion.

I might try to the bow, see how that goes. At least then I wouldn't get greedy striking twice and take a club to the face.
>>
why is Prospector Olek so worst?
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>>125271980
Let's just spam from afar until it's time to burst him to death. That's how I solo him.
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>>125271515
>>125271574
>>125271758
The real question is who put him there on the balcony.
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>>125272013
Try him and find out.
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>>125271973
>but I went in and bumrushed him ie whacked him for 10 minutes for the bowblade

I don't know, why don't you go look it up considering you've clearly already done as much eleswhere
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I wish someone would have warned me that the bloodletter's frenzy damage scaled up with blt. At ~45 blt I had the perfect amount of resist while still maintaining pretty armor. Now I almost want to remake the entire build as a BL98 with a little less blt and a little more vit.


How does this look, anyway?
http://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/10322

I can't decide between staying at BL98 or going to BL105-ish to put vit in the mid 40s and throw a few points in end.
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>>125272369
just run a deep sea rune, or chug a sedative
it only does 50% of your health anyway
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>>125272112
I think the arrow popped it that time. I can usually dodge the spinning just fine solo but I figured I probably shouldn't try that now, given the other fuck ups I've walked into.
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>>125269554
Have some good ol' fashion forest invasion.
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>>125272369
>40 vit
ez frag.
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>>125271620
>>125271626
>>125271641
>>125271682
Who the fuck is queen killer?
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>>125272456
wasting an entire rune on resist?

before I frenzied from using it, it was great because it had insane rally and hit multiple things

with proper resist the frenzy was really just a cooldown

I don't want to have to keep sedetives around just to avoid frenzy and I really don't want to waste a run either. I'll probably make a different version of the build with a little bit less damage.
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>>125272352
you know what? You're right, my bad
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>>125272727
Iron Tarkus reincarnate
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>>125272627
Beckoning at Layer 3.
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>>125272749
>I don't want to keep sedatives around to avoid frenzy
ok
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>>125272727
>he doesn't based Queen Killer
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>>125272645
Comfy as fuck.

How do you even find people during a forest invasion?
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this boss is so predictable it's almost comfy
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>>125272965
>being forced to use an item after an attack or you lose half of your health

no thanks
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>>125273002
BL40~

That webm happened today on my new arc character.
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>Attack Down

Fuck you Hotdog. I'll ring my small bell if you want to kill Hotdog yourself rkng
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>>125273079
>>125273002
do you even know what comfy means
>>
>>125269554
You forgot
>involves an ayy and the webm ends with Kos Parasite L2
guilty as charged here
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>>125273093
Yeah, beckoning now
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>>125273190
Forest invasions?

>>125273084
No, I meant like, actually finding them in the goddamn satan forest.
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>>125271360
With brain fluid, you mean?
I thought the head was becoming so abnormal, and maybe falling into pieces by the effect of the alien brain fluid, that they needed to pack it.
To me, when annalise become a brain ball, it's like the brain mensis brought back from nightmare (as for winter lanterns), a rooted brain with perverted body parts.
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>>125273339
Oh, you just look at the enemies. If they're dead, follow the trail of death and you'll eventually see HP bars going down.
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>Logarius counter bonus hits oneshotting me

yeah, no anyone wanna help with lugarius BL 39

pw bbg3
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>>125273190
not quite sure to be honest

>>125273379
the cosmos and the sea are one
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>>125272907
I should really lock on more
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Took me a few tries, but I remembered that you just stay near them and they don't do that stupid charge attack.
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to get some chalice coop action do I need to set a pass and ring the bell like usual or do I need to copy my glyph thing here?
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>no rocks
>not even an abyssal

oh well at least I'm rolling in chunks
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Some of you guys are alright. Don't go to Byrgenwerth tomorrow.
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>whalers
>whale giants
>shark giants
>street sharks

What is their official name?
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>>125273779
Love to see one of those giants take on a Cleric Beast, can't wait to find out their names WHEN SOMEONE SCANS THE FUCKING DLC GUIDE
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What's the best build for the moonlight sword?
quality or full arcane?
also post some webms
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>>125274054
It's street sharks now, kek
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@kos of messenger if you want to do it in your world im down; im original asker.
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>>125269793
>Executioner+Cainhurst

idk why people are still doing this. Harrowed Hood is better than Cainhurst, people should be using that instead.
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Why is the Saw Spear good for arcane builds?
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Defiled Amy HALP
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>>125274587
Low stat requirements, and it's a good overall weapon that you can get early on and has a waning slot for the fire gem you get early in the game.
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>>125273971
are we not doing this for messenger of kos?
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>>125274587
Fire gems can make it rape beast enemies.
>>
>Desperately want a stake driver
>Don't particularly want to fight Djura, have tried the ladder trick and it doesn't seem to work

So I tried to figure out how to actually make him friendly, you have to get as far as Rom, then backtrack to Yaharghul? Is there a way to kill blood starved that doesn't aggro Djura?
alternatively advice on how to cheese him would be good. I can make the run to his perch no problem but that fucking shotgun stuns me so easily.
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>>125274587
what the other anons said but if you don't want a saw spear you can spend 2 points and grab the saif.
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>>125274807
jesus christ
>>
To the people recommending the jump cheese on Amy, thanks a bunch; made it to Ithyll!
>>
>>125274807
You have to run up from Paarl's boss room without him seeing you, which is pretty trivial. It doesn't work if he saw you earlier in the area, but it resets every time you leave.
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>>125274807
all you have to do is see Darkbeast Paarl. you can do that as soon as you kill BSB, just go get killed by a bagmen to get to Yahar'ghul.
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>>125274807
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>>125274980
But from what I understand in order to get to Paarl you need to get to Yaharghul which only opens after you either kill blood-starved or Rom?
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>>125274771
We already did it in my world m8. Sorry I thought that post was made before we did it
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>>125274807
>walk up ladder
>pull out pistol
>l2l2l2

alternate ending

>walk up ladder
>dont pull out anything
>simply wait until djura fucking ends himself
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>>125274807
You just have to go to Yahar'Gul. You can do that after beating BSB, snatchers will start to appear and if they kill you, they take you to Yahar'Gul. afaik there's no way to kill BSB without aggro'ing Djura. Just run through open areas, he won't hit you if you run in a straight line. Hide behind walls when fighting enemies, there are plenty of places for cover.
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>>125255521
Went for a Red Steel kind of cowboy look.
Also my first time running a Bloodtinge build, and it's been very fun so far.
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>>125275226
Is there a way to get to BSB that doesnt aggro Djura?
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>>125275381
Are you retarded or something?
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>>125275381
yes, beating rom, and fighting paarl directly
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>>125275381
it doesn't matter if you aggro him the first time, he's old and has a bad memory.

just ignore him and kill BSB, get killed by bagmen, see Paarl, then warp to BSB's lamp and run back to durja, without killing anything above ground.
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>>125254796
Queen Killer is an Executioner, and very obviously is trying to kill Queen Yharnam. That's his last summonable fight. Another link
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>>125255238
going 140 and i don't have problems to be summoned nor invaded
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>>125255521
Going for that 'covered in ash and dust' type of look
the fire of the hammer adds to it as well
>>
>>125275694
is the boom hammer any good with waning fire gems?
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>>125273079
>predictable
try farming himin a room with pillars
>>
How do you get the most out of elemental weapons? What's the best gem setup?

Is it worth getting the waning fire/bolt abyssals?
>>
Anything worthwhile in layer three? I was really hoping for the Silverbeast to be the boss.
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>>125273654
So there was a Lost Beast Claws and a stackload of Blooming Coldblood Flowers. I think I'm carrying like 22 or something.
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>>125275993
Yeah abyssals are good. You'll also want some abyssal cold gems. Best set-up depends on the weapon and your arcane stat.
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>>125275818
No, I used radial, radial and triangle imprint on a ARC char with 26% fire gems and it does pretty fine ass damage. Also I saw better fire triangles than waning ones. This char I got 26%'s phys ups right now, also work great. Although nourishing might best if you want the best out of both.
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>>125276136
Damn. I'll beckon if you wanna run it again for that Blood Rock chance.
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>>125276285
Sounds good. Bell's ringin'
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>>125275095
No? Get kidnapped by a bag man.
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>>125275302
Dude all my brother goes on about is how I should make my characters look like The Hero from Red Steel 2. That image there is basically what I ended up with.
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>>125276280
Well I'm trying to get the most out of my Saif with 50 Arcane. Would I want to get a triangle cold abyssal and two radial fire abyssals then? or one fire abyssal (or waning bolt abyssal) and another cold abyssal?
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>>125275993
for fire the best you can do is radial-radial-crescent, since you can get fire abyssals in both those slots

for bolt the best you can do is radial-triangle-crescent, since you can only get crescent abyssals, but you can get 27% triangles

the general gameplan is 1 radial cold abyssal, 1 elemental abyssal, and either another elemental abyssal or a 27% triangle. for radial abyssals (whether cold or elemental), you really want attack v. open foes as your secondary, but it's rare so you will probably settle for other things

weapons with low scaling might benefit more from 2 cold abyssals, and weapons with very very high scaling might benefit more from a 27% triangle, even for fire

for pvp the dream weapon is something like a saw spear with 2 cold abyssals using attack v. open foes and 1 bolt abyssal with ~33 bolt. or maybe replace one of those cold abyssals with a 27% triangle. it's hard to find the apex, but so long as you're close it doesn't matter much
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should i get kidnapped and sent over to Hypogean before killing Amelia?
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>>125276281

guy has 10x better movement than you buddy, you're just lucky that npc beast was there to aid you

look at that 00.05 sidestep, amateur as fuck bro
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>>125276709
lost for arcane, waning one for fire abyssal + fire radial gems. be consistent
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Would anyone like to beat Laurence with me? I beat him solo once and will never do it again.
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Is it possible to escape Orphan of Kos's combos if you get locked into them in the second phase, or should I just pump more VIT before fighting him? He hits me once and then it's all over, he keeps comboing me until I die
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Are there any gay NPCs in this game?
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>>125276902
Paarl is probably harder than Amelia, but the trip's worth it for the large shards you can pick up.
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>>125276938
>lost for arcane
there are literally no good arcane crescents. RRT is much better
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>>125276383
Fuck sorry, had to plug in my controller
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>>125276902

if you're good at the game and don't mind a challenge then yes, if you're mediocre or shit wait until you level up around level 50
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FUCKING
FINALLY
BEAT
THAT
SON
OF
A
BITCH!~

Jesus christ, took a fucking day, but I finally got Simon, Had to waste almost all of my shards getting the saif up to +7, but thankfully that and the HP runes really made it so much easier.

Then all I had to do was add 2 points of BLT for the bow and hazzah.

Now never to use this character again.
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>>125277001
Ameila is more formulaic in her attacks, but Paarl can easily get stunlocked if you manage to get enough damage on his head
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>>125276975
You can escape some of them, depending on how many hits you can survive. It's easy to beat him with 40 vit. Any less and he will probably be able to combo you to death.
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the DLC was great, but I'm not having fun any more.

Can't get Orphan below a third health, and any summons I take die way before then. Laurence is a dick with those AOE fireblasts. Managed to get him to his crawling phase once. Even the gatling gun hunter's fucking me up. Those are the only things I have left to do and I think I'm going to give up for a while and play something different before I burst a blood vessel.

Really should have made a new character for the DLC instead of using my NG+4 guy.
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>>125276693
I'm just a huge fan of westerns, so I'm never gunna tire of this get up.
It's nice to wear something other than full black/grey for once too.
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>>125277134
>not just doing the cheese method that gets posted
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>>125276978

djura is a furry so there's that
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>>125277081
you're right, i don't know where i got that in my head.
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>>125273079
So...vermin caused bloodletting beast?
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>>125277268
Wut
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>>125276903
I made the sidestep cause I saw the silverbeast charge for that spit attack
this would push him back right where I would sidestep to
its called calculating your movement, bro
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>>125277001
You can also unlock a shortcut that allows you to skip fighting the 3 hunters later on.
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>>125277264
Oh gee, why didn't I think of that! ur so smrt anen.
Didn't work. fucker one-shot me and his AI literally refused to stay in the hallway, I've never seen him do that shit on my other characters, its just with this one he fucking ran into the room and waited in the middle for me.
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>>125276978
chapel dweller if you're a male
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>>125277247
That head piece was the best thing they added to the DLC.
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>>125276903
>10x better movement
>he rolls twice into the rocks
lol
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if you kill amelia do the kidnappers go away/
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>>125276790
Thanks for the info, looks like I have a lot of grinding ahead of me
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>>125277419
Simon is programmed to learn what you want the most and not do it.
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I know this is oddly specific, but I was wondering if anyone with the shoulder-length hairs, either the straighter, or the wavy variant, could post a screenshot of what the back of the choir outfit looks like, with and without the hat, or just without, if you'd like.

I a stickler for clipping, and just wanted to know which option I should go with if I want the least amount of clipping of the longer hairstyles.
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>>125277548
They go away when you kill Rom, I think.
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>>125277480
Couldn't agree more. Ever since I saw those pasty church bastards in Cathedral Ward, I've wanted a big stupid hat for my hunter. The DLC knew me well.
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Master Willem, I'm Healing Church.
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>>125277583
About three hours in I seriously started to think that.

But its not just simon, on this character I've noticed several enemies do shit I have never seen them do in like hundreds of hours of gameplay.
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>>125277480
I wish it didn't clip with the ponytail hairstyles.
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>>125277696

yeah this

they've all been killed off along with their kidnappees for the yahargul summoning

you can see some of their corpses around the area
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>>125251474
ok
I don't come around here a ton unless I'm at work.
Best to message me on the /bbg/ PSN community.
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>>125277884
I know, I know

You think now to Cleric Beast
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>>125271136
Weapon durability down is terrible. Your shit breaks in like 5 hits.
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I may not have been able to beat Laurence, but at least I got the Living Failures for today. Though I opened the Astral Clocktower door, saw Maria, and promptly noped back into the Hunter's Dream.

Thanks for all of your help with the Laurence fight, anon who named their character Artemesia. We got so close!
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>>125277884
Get him asleep, I'll call beyond!
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>>125278218
It is fine as long as you only use one, and you use it on a weapon with decent durability.
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>>125278252
Maria is super easy. You can literally stun lock her with augur or chain visceral her with boolets. And god help her if you have whirligig.
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>>125278252
>Not just saying "Thanks Artemesia"
Are you autistic?
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>>125278218
yeah this

its ok for pvp if you dont mind crusing back to the dream every couple fights because your shit broke again

in dungeons you'll break your weapon all the time
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>>125277934
>Find the whole set as I'm just making a mad dash to grab stuff at a low BL in the first area
>Mfw I get the hat, and then suddenly notice the really slight but super obvious clipping with my ponytail

I don't get why it has to lift your hair up like that. Did htey maybe use a modified version of Henryk's hat as a base for the new one, or something? It has the same sort of face mask, at least. If it didn't lift the hair up like it did, it would actually not have any problem with hair clipping at all, at least with the ponytails.

I wish I wasn't so fucking autistic about clipping.
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>>125278396
You are a pussy if you do this
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>>125278396

i died to living failures like 8 times

i beat maria on try 2 without parries or whirlygigs
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Everything bad that happens in this game is down to some bunch of retards kicking the cosmic beehive by saying OH HEY FREE ELDRITCH CHILDREN RIGHT HERE! The great ones come to collect their kids and theres a band of crazies stapling eyes to themselves and injecting blood like heroin.
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>>125277907
I had the story Beast-Possessed Soul fucking do an incredibly human-player like visceral attack grab on me, and he promptly started glowing fucking red and shit before I put his ass down in the most obscene panic I've ever had playing this game

I have never ever in my life seen that shit before
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>>125278614
How did you die to living failures 8 times? that doesn't make sense.
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>>125278614
>i died to living failures
That's pretty embarrassing on it's own. It's like dying to Pinwheel.
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>>125278665
BPS has really strange AI, I've seen the one at the bottom of the church tower do some weird stuff.
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>>125278279
Um, you don't get to bring beasts.
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> Tfw I just walked off a fucking staircase that led nowhere, making me die, in the spooky spiral staircase dlc location.
My need to explore every fucking inch of every location means that this place will take approximately 1 million years.
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>>125278834
They aren't my beasts. They work for the Scholar, the Caged Man.
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can i trade myself to victory with burial blade if i put on guidance rune?
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>>125278628
>tfw laurence was actually right and that blood was necessary to evolve
>he just did it at a bad time because they had JUST been cursed by Kos' vermin
>Willem is seen as a fucking genius wise old man even though he ended up a potato and he was almost certainly a part of the call to rip Orphan out of the womb and experiment on it till death

Laurence was the real hero.
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>>125278447
Y'know, as opposed to their PSN name being Artemesia. I try to be clear with my messages, anon. But yes, autism
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>>125278503
I didn't even notice it until I got to the Maria cutscene and now I can't not see it.
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anyone have any experience with the amygdalan arm? its unique moveset looks really fun, but is it actually any good?
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>>125278758

impatience and their bitch trailing backhand end of their swings that still hit for like 700 on ng
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>>125278964
>>125278834
>>125278279
HOLY FUCK I KNOW WHATS HAPPENING BUT I REALLY WANT IT TO CONTINUE
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>>125279002
Willem was a hypocrite, he just liked eyes instead of blood. Hard to pass him off as an innocent wise man when he fucking drilled the heads of fish people for his eye collection.

Kind of funny that the Church has the most successful relationship with a Great one, out of all the factions.
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>>125277480
False. Maria's hate is much better.

>>125279124
Yeah, impatience is a killer in souls games. The key is to attack them when they are isolated. If you rush into a group then you are asking to be raped.
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>>125279002
Willem did some diabolical shit, but Laurence did equally bad shit. Before the hunters were well known, he ordered Gehrman to go out and slaughter tons of turned citizens who used the bloodministration to cure disease. This part might be fan theory, but he also ordered Micolash to continue the experiments they did at Bergenwerth, creating the nightmare of mensis and doing stupid shit to Mergo.

Willem was a evil, but Laurence was no saint.
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>>125279050
The Blunt damage aspect of it is it's major flaw, but untransformed attacks do massive stagger and transformed has some pretty good range for crowd control and some odd timing on it's swings.
It has it's uses for sure, but I feel other weapons play it's role better. If you wanna use it though, go for it. It's very fun.
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>BLOOD COCKTAIL >>>>> DARKBEASTS
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>>125279157
First one to Make Contact gets to stay in my Nightmare!
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Someone help me with Laurence, this is hell
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>>125277349
I think it's heavily implied from the wording of the lore that vermin don't even exist unless you want them to.
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>>125279002
>cursed by Kos' vermin
People still believe this?
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>>125277091
Good spelunking bro. That was fun. Loot was sub-par but what can you do?
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>>125279376
Laurence fucked up by using funky 10000 year old blood he'd sucked out of dead vampires to infect a whole city with the beast scourge.
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>>125279602
Except you can find them without the rune and some enemies who are stonger than normal drop them too. And there's centipedes living inside silverbeasts and BLB.

>>125279659
People are stupid. Parasites cause changes. Kos parasites caused fish people. Vermin caused beast people.
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>>125278665
If he hits you with his chest punch grab, he powers up and gets double damage.
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what bl do you have to be to be consistently summoned at the blood rock CD everyone uses?
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>>125279683
Yeah that was pretty fun, even with all of the eye hags and their magic frame-rate killing powers. Did you get a rock?
>tfw single chunk from camerabeast
I knew I should have used Eye runes
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>>125279548
Tell me about the cosmos, why are they hidden now from sight? A lot of insight for a beast hunter!
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>>125279712
>Laurence fucked up
I stopped reading there because that's what I said in my post. Laurence fucked up about as much as Willem did. Honestly, it's a toss up on who fucked up more.
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>>125279826
>vermin
>real
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>>125279871
in general, at bl98 i get a lot of summons into story chalices, but at bl116 i get a lot of summons into d5 spelunking
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>>125279293
Depends on your definition of successful. For humans, definitely. For Great Ones, Mensis is pretty succesful too.

>>125279376
Before the hunters were well known, he ordered Gehrman to go out and slaughter tons of turned citizens who used the bloodministration to cure disease.

Don't think so. The majority of the Old Hunters were donezo after the Hamlet, which is where most of them (barring outsiders like Gascoigne and Henryk) probably were doing their first bit of actual beast hunting. If we're to believe the timeline the DLC sets up for us, Ludwig was more likely the one dragging people out of their houses and sticking some Holy Blade in their gut, hence all the "river of blood" analogies we get in his fight and the sort of ominous description of the Yharnam Hunter set.

>This part might be fan theory, but he also ordered Micolash to continue the experiments they did at Bergenwerth, creating the nightmare of mensis and doing stupid shit to Mergo.

Definitely fan theory, but it's at least foreseeable. It's just hard to tell if Laurence was actually alive at the time Mensis was established. They split off from the choir.

I agree that Laurence isn't a saint, though. It's just that he gets seen "the bad guy who did the dumb shit and got us all in this mess", while Willem is a wise old man with his "FEAR THE OLD BLOOD" shit, yet Laurence was completely right and ended up eating shit anyway just because of the timeline in which he chose to do what he did.
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>>125279876
>Did you get a rock?
Naw.
>single chunk
I got nothing both times.
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>>125280091
is it time i bring my BL 80 ayy lmao whirligig into the 98 meta?
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>>125279924
I'm not arguing that point mate, I'm just saying that maybe before using the creppy blood you should figure out how much shit is in it.
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>Finally got that simon's bow.
>Wanna do some co-op
>BL10 so I go to Cleric Beast area
>Get summoned
>All the mobs are there, host is nowhere to be seen
>Start running around killing everything in the Cleric beast area
>Another guy gets summoned
>Two seconds later the guy dies
>Run to Gascoigne area
>Kill all the mobs there
>Still can't find host
>Literally every single thing from Clinic to Oedon murdered by me
>Can't find host
>Host uses the silencing blanks and sends me away
>Round 2
>Host is right in front of Cleric Beast boss room
>Goes in
>Starts fighting the boss
>I can't go through the fog
>Suddenly go through fog with boss down to like 60%
>See the guy still hasn't done the visceral
>Start shooting the head with blood bullets
>After 10 shots the cleric beast doesn't drop
>All of a sudden freezes mid-air
>Go to shoot it with Simon's bow
>During charge my ammo just blinks from 15 to 0
>Beckoner has died
>Returning to your world

God dammit, I worked for six hours to get this fucking bow, I just wanna use it on something already.
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>>125279995
>Implying they aren't
What reason do you have to deny? You must be teeming with Vermin behind that thin facade of flesh.
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>>125276709
If you don't care about the element, probably two cold and one bolt from from Abhorrent. RRW or Lost, since cold abby can be any shape. +flat bolt secondary from Abhorrent, +% vs open enemies or +% rally are probably best secondaries on the cold. idk if you can get +15 bolt flat on them, but if you can, that'd be OK, too. If you're not willing to farm for a +flat bolt secondary on the bolt gem, then get a 27.2% gem from Watchers on a RRT imprint, whatever element you want.

Note: I haven't ACTUALLY sat down and done comprehensive math, but I'm like 90% sure that this would be the best combo. Comparing it to one cold abyssal with a 27.2% bolt and 22.5/33.8 abyssal bolt, you gain 1 AR for a double-cold set-up, which is w/e, but also get an extra secondary roll which is pretty nice.
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>>125279826
The beastly scourge is something different from vermin, because they're only found where Confederates are.

Since this is Bloodborne, a Confederate could go around imagining vermin in everything and they'd be there, as expected.
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>>125280147
Well I'll cherish my chunks in that case.
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>>125279995
Oh, so are so the red-eyed hunter's increased strength and hp not real?
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>having to fight Kin with a weapon that can't use bolt paper, and doesn't deal thrust damage.

Jesus Christ, how horrifying.
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>>125280374
But how does their imagination spawn vermin for their cohorts?
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>>125280374
>they're only found where Confederates are.
That's not even true. Red-eye Hunters in the Nightmare are stronger than average and drop them. Not only can you find them with no rune, but they have an effect on the world we can see: empowered hunters.
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>>125280561
They're using a Caryll rune.

aka MAGIC.
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guys, i want to start using the tonitrus for pvp with my 50 arc build. would cold abyssal gems be worthwhile for it?
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>>125280464
Something existing in a nightmare doesn't mean it exists in real life. The vermin in the nightmare might very well be analogous to Laurence's skull, but for Valtr.
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>>125280092
I dunno dude, Simon refers to Ludwig as a "true hero" and him and his dudes have all the knightly honour stuff going on around them, church hunters were definitely the biggest bastards around but that could be why the Holy Blades were slightly separate to the usual bunch.
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is there a little red riding hood reference anywhere in this game?
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>>125280635
That's in the nightmare.
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is threaded cane good?
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Thread.
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>>125280947
no
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>>125280746
>>125280801
>Something existing in a nightmare doesn't mean it exists in real life.
Yes it does. This is Bloodborne. Nice deflection. Nightmares are a valid reality. Jesus christ, this is basic Bloodborne 101.

Get the fuck off my website, tourist shitters.
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>>125280293
why are two cold abyssals better than arcane/elemental abyssals?
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>new character
>really dont want to deal with the bosses like usual
>guess ill try this pellet cleaver paper thing speedrunners keep talking about

Jesus titty christ
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>>125279574
Set your password to bbgvicar, I'll meet you at the fog door. What's your level and NG/NG+ status?
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>>125280464
Vermin probably only drop from those hunters to allow people who with no online to complete the covenant.
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>>125281138
is this how one should also get thru bosses by twinking?
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>>125280996
ok im upgrading it
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>>125280759
Reminder that Simon's job is literally to drag people out of their houses and kill them if he suspects them of having the beast plague, to prevent it from spreading and having an outbreak

Dragging people out of their houses and killing them wouldn't make Ludwig any less of a hero in Simon's eyes, especially if he was dragging out beasts and killing them, which he absolutely was
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>>125281138
Do the pellets have any effect when bolt paper is used? I thought they only affected physical damage.
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>>125281317
>>125280759
>>125280092
Ludwig was actually the one more apt to put a Holy Blade into their hand and tell them to start helping hunt beasts. That was his deal after all, and part of why he was so loved, and also why you have so many people to fight through in Yharnam. Ludwig is from a time when the hunts were working, and were actually protecting people. After he's gone, the church starts to do it's more shifty stuff, pre-purging the populace and such which is what Simon is part enough, and eventually becomes sick of. Ludwig appears to be far too chivalrous to allow something like that to be carried out by his hunters.

The old hunters, Gehrman, Maria, so on. They were certainly there for the Hamlet. I feel it's implied that Gehrman killed Orphan there, since he has an umbilical cord in his workshop.
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>>125281238
>Vermin probably only drop from those hunters to allow people who with no online to complete the covenant.
They don't drop enough. There's only three of them. You couldn't even make Valtr give you his helm with that many.

You can't just ignore the fact that they exists without a rune and made the hunters stronger. Vermin are real. Valtr was privy to a revelation, which is why he found the rune. Runes are inhuman utterings of great ones. Valtr found eldritch wisdom which led him to discover the root of defilement.
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>>125281469
Three vermin plus two the boss fights with Valtr gives five.
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>>125281469
I think they're real because of the rune.

And you really think there's something as convenient as the "root of all defilement?"
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>>125281456
Yeah, that's also about the time that Laurence helped Gehrman set up the Hunter's dream by contacting the MP.
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>>125281701

Not all but yes there has to be some common link, this isn't just random.
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>>125281701
It could just be a flowery way of saying "this bug causes or is a symptom of the beast scourge"
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>>125281281

I guess? I just did it because im so burnt out of the early game.

>>125281432

The weapon is still physical so BBP buffs that, the paper just adds flat damage, which is nice when the boss is weak to that element.
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>>125281701
There is. Oedon
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>>125281030
Because they give better damage.

This is assuming 50 arcane, btw. If your arcane is lower, then colds won't be as good.
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>>125281940
Oh that's cool.
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>>125282016
But only for 22.5 scaling gems right?
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>>125281138
Once your beast meter is full, just R1 spam. Transform spam is only good for building the meter, not actually DPS'ing.
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>>125281701
>>125281469
I basically just see Vermin as small Great Ones.
I like the idea of these people using the Truth in a way to try and kill the things that are allowing them to witness it.

>>125281765
Possibly with the help of said umbilical cord. It is on the altar, after all.
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>just finished the dlc
>tfw trying to get the rakuyo off those fish giants
why was that so fucking hard
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>>125281952
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>>125282213
Yeah. +scaling gems behave very strangely as of the last patch and are probably glitched. Abyssal colds and heavies are REALLY good, and everything else with +scaling varies from "ok but not really competitive with other top-tier gems" to "total garbage, do not use."
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>>125282293
Yeah most likely. On another note, I found it rich that the notes in the Lecture Hall tell you to "hunt the great ones" when it was the scholars who fucked it all up in the first place.
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>>125281701
>>125281469
>real
You guys do know that the entirety of what's going on is a vivid nightmare caused by a blood manifest sterile moon good trying to find a surrogate baby by causing those dreaming to spill and consume even more blood, right?
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>>125282376
it's a boss fight

like many other boss fights it takes 2:30 to 3:30 to complete
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Oh snap we hit the bump limit
wat do
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>>125282376
It's easier if you separate them using the pillar in the middle.
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>Finally get to the point where I can use chalice dungeons to farm gems and what not
>in two hours get a Lost Chikage+10, a 31.3% blood gem, and then a 24%

Gonna farm more for day 27% and got a 31.3 for my Evelynn too. All the peanlties have been 3% stamina costs...should I keep farming for vs Kin down or just accept what I have?
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>>125282510
So? The whole game is in that dream. Reality is relative.
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>>125250734
>Go to make a new thread
>This OP

what the fuck happened? half the info is missing.
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>>125282293
>Vermin as small Great Ones.
That's retarded.
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>>125282454
no let's be clear: scaling gems were 100% worthless before the patch, even at 99 in the relevant stat. they were strictly worse than % gems

now, on some builds, 1 is sometimes a ~30 AR increase, though they stack poorly.. this is good, but it's not REALLY GOOD
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>>125282649
-% kin is ideal if you don't mind keeping a back-up weapon (or are just gonna do PvP), but 3% stamina is fine.
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buriel blade still worth even with 25str/50 skill? decided to start using it with the church pick
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>>125282980
Why would it not be?
That's pretty much the best build for using it
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>>125282501
I'm just spitballing here as to how things kind of happened.

The Church, and the Old Hunters come to the hamlet and witness Kos, Orphan, and the ascension of the peoples there, then go full 731 on them. They realize that the stuff they're doing, the blood, and so on, will create these beasts.

Turns out the beasts are really fucking strong, so Laurence and Gehrman and them figure out a way to help with that. Dreams and Nightmares. A person physically in the dream cannot die, since it's just their projection that would appear outside of it. So they find a way to contact a great one and make a Dream, with Gehrman as the host.

Now they have Hunters who can become more and more and more skilled, and kill the most terrible beasts that come about.

BurgerWorth, the Choir, Mensis, or whatever Micolash and them are called, learn about the Hunter's Dream, and the effective immortality of hunters, of contacting great ones and so on, and decide that this is how humanity can be uplifted. To be like the peoples of the Hamlet, only more controlled maybe?

I dunno, I'm kind of feeling like I've gone full Vaati.
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>>125282980
25/50 STR/SKL is literally the ideal stats for burial blade
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>>125282980
church pick is objectively better.
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>>125282860
>He thinks Great Ones are a separate species even though Great Ones all are obsessed with humanity and share compatible blood
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>>125282860
why come?
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Is it right to put Ludwig down after you have defeated him?
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>>125281179
I beat him, thanks though
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>>125283242
Don't think about it too much, just get out there and kill a few beasts. It's what hunters are for, after all.
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>>125283343
Can you help me fight him, then?
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what's the way to cheese simon that everyone keeps mentioning?

also new thread when
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>>125283452
You can parry his bow attacks.
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>>125283242
Yes. No one should have to live as a horsey head.
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>>125283063
>>125283093
>>125283104
church pick is a lot better but buriel blade good for zips and rallying.

and you can use papers on pick; untransformed and transform are super quick

i just never used bb so just kinda gettin used to it.
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>>125282867
Heavy and Cold gems are now the best gems in the game. They are required for basically any strength/arcane build if you want optimal gems. Giving 30 AR more than what were previously the best gems in the game is, in fact, really good. If "Better than the thing that used to be the best," isn't really good, then idk what is. It is often worth putting two on a weapon. Even if you aren't gaining much AR with the second one, you are getting a secondary roll. Heavies can make weapons that use to require 50/25 builds deal equivalent (or even more) damage at just 50 strength. Even some skill weapons are now better off on 50/25 builds, or at least are on-par with 25/50s, because of how powerful Heavy gems are. And then on top of that, Heavy gems will increase visceral damage by significantly more than a 27.2% will on a Strength build. And cold gems are great because they can replace the bargain-bin 23.1 radials that arcane builds were forced to use, rather than replacing 27.2 triangles, or some other good abyssals or w/e.
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>>125283452
aggro him and run to the door, and hide behind it.
simon will often shoot a few arrows then walk up to the door, but not often go through it. Use a charged R2, to hurt him, and preferably knock him down or knock him back (Hunters Axe is great for this). If he does walk through the door, simply run around him and into the hallway, and hide around the corner, when he chases you, just run back to your starting position. Repeat ad nauseam.
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>>125283242
Based on what Simon tells us, yes.

Think the optimal comfort for Ludwig is to tell him his Church Hunters are pure knights for the city of Yharnam, and then walk way to let Simon put him down. Telling him they're pure and then killing him could be seen as harsh.
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>>125268696
>Basacar
They're aren't enough tribal clothing
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Remember, vermin aren't real. It's all in your head.
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>>125268696
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEOCJeqoWVo
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Holy shit doing the pthumerian descendant at level 10 was incredibly frustrating. I know you can just parry him, but I could NOT get his parry times down reliably.
This almost killed me, doing Amy just before was significantly easier, and that's the first time I've fought Amy melee.
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>>125283914
I forgot how good Disney songs are.
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>>125283696
>>125283769
But is trying to be a good person as a Hunter ultimately futile? Yes, you may save somebody from a beast clawing at their door or you may comfort a dying man, but nothing will stop the madness. Nothing will redeem you.
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>>125283862
Whoa now, don't be hasty.
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No new thread.
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>>125283081
I think the Hunter's dream is pretty secret, and that the various groups of scholars are all just continuing Willem and Laurence's work, what with the whole "Trade children for enlightenment" deal they are going with.
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>>125282707
You're not seeing how retarded and self-contradictory you sound?

If the whole game is in a dream, Reality is irrelevant, its not its not relative, its not even relevant, because what's going on is outside of reality.

I dreamed last night I fucked dozen women with my twelve dicks, its not relatively real because its not real at all.
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>>125283420
Password?
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>>125283452
>>125277134

>level up
>get 19% gems
>kill him

Why do you want the bow blade early? its not gonna do shit, just progress normally. God you guys are autistic sometimes
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>>125282376
optional miniboss fight.
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>>125284303
bbgvicar, if I lose this attempt.
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>>125284338
>Calling other people autistic
>Can't resist commenting when someone does something you don't understand or care for

Anon, you're the literal definition of autism.
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>>125264019
quality with minimal arcane ala 14? or wut
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>>125284495
>no you are!

Nice rebuttal retard
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>>125284303
I died, will meet you at fog door in a minute.
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>>125282376
Because you need to work smarter not harder
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>>125284420
Rang next to Valtr
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>>125284850
How's your grandmother doing?
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>>125284703
>Rebuttal
Anon, is your autism making you think we're arguing? This isn't a discussion anon, I just told you the truth, you can go and argue with one of your autism buddies.
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>>125283452
this thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyA_iEOmt0Y
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>>125284806
Guess we can't connect, sucks
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>>125283731
>Heavy and Cold gems are now the best gems in the game.
that's not true at all, though. they stack like shit. some weapons want 1 and some weapons want 2, no weapon wants 3

they are required for optimum, but so are tempering gems, and prior to the change only tempering gems were required. now a mix is required, which means there is no "best gem," only a best mix

prior to this change, SKL-leaning quality was unambiguously the best build in the game, and optimal Arcane gem farming was hell, requiring a bone ash grind for sub-par radials. now there is diversity, and a purpose for gems that were otherwise suboptimal even with 99 in the stat

the change is so well-balanced that i honestly believe the "glitch" is that they rebalanced the gems and did not change the stat screen values to reflect them. the stat screen is very, very frequently broken in this game, in many ways; tonitrus's stat screen AR has been broken since release
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