/lisg/ - Life is Strange General #262

>>125162797
Fuck tradition.

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>>125162760

I am putting together a flowchart (a-la-/mu/) of music similar to LiS

Currently working on a few different thoughts for the flowchart. If you guys have any ideas, please share. Current plan is 3 categories; Victoriaish, slowcore, and indie pop. To bad I have literally no motivation to work on it...

Pastebin of collected (unsorted) songs so far:
http://pastebin.com/MJrjdDpe

I'm running out of qt lesbian fanfics...
send halp pls

If you want to contribute, please contact me on steam, or reply to this post.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198048865860

not-so Current Pastebin of game's music/progress:
http://pastebin.com/LaUcnMej

Thanks to photoshopgril for putting together the background image and the second chart,
polaroidgril for assembling the album covers/artist names/etc. onto the background image,
Dr. Zaius for helping in general.

I have a torrent of all the games music, Morali's OST, the Vortex Club party, all the licensed songs (most in lossless format), and all the albums they were taken from.

Magnet link:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:4AF55CE2E1F48771E92E4CCE8E92156EC6A96152&dn=various+artists+life+is+strange+ost+2015&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.me%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337

https://kat.cr/various-artists-life-is-strange-ost-2015-t11495485.html

Alternative download on MEGA, if you get it from here, please add the files to your torrent folder to facilitate easier downloads for others.

https://mega.nz/#F!LsBkkBwT!p-2sVb--sT3Tb9K_QDhznA

Spotify playlist of the licensed music here:
https://play.spotify.com/user/pieisablessing2me/playlist/0hlcayMf9otvePDw2MZ6qk

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>>125162797

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>>125162797

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nth for MAXIMUM VICTORY

Nova make christmas edition kinky pls

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MUST

COUNTERACT

K8

POSTING

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>>125163758
>>125163194

>>125162940
>>125163076
But tradition goes a long way

>>125163758
Hnnnggg

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threadly reminder that k8 will get kek'd in the upcoming LiT installment

what do kate's soles look like?

True previous thread: >>125024687

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>>125164503
I keep seeing people say how good LiT is, but I really don't want to read anything what has Max in it without Chloe.
It just feels like you're missing half of something.

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>playing the limited edition
>get to the cliff scene
>its playing out the same as always
>reach the choice
>intend to sacrifice arcadia as always
>the game automatically picks 'Sacrifice Chloe'
>wat
>ending sequence plays
>you regain control of Max
>you can explore the graveyard and talk to everyone
>press F to pay respects
>joyce is a mess
>says she wishes she was buried there instead
>you talk to Warren, ask him what he'd do if he had to choose between a tornado hitting the town and the person he loves dying
>asks if you've been watching shitty sci-fi to try to cope
>says tornadoes aren't even that deadly and the science makes no sense
>it feels like its raining but it's not
>you see the doe standing at the gates to the graveyard
>follow it to the cliff, there's a girl sitting there
>it's Rachel
>she apologizes for everything
>says she caused the tornado, made a stupid blood oath with Frank at the tobanga that gave her powers
>when she was killed she summoned the storm out of rage and couldn't take it back
>her vengeful spirit was trapped in arcadia
>saw Chloe die and wanted to save her
>the timeline played out the first time with chloe dying and the storm coming on friday
>she saw Max grieving over Chloe and called her to the cliff (first scene)
>sent her back with time powers and tried to guide her through the week
>it feels like its raining, you can hear the rain
>'You're still with Chloe walking up to the cliff, you didn't wake up yet, this is all still your nightmare. It's the only way I could talk with you.'
>'Sorry Max, this whole mess is my fault. Keep Chloe safe, Max. She deserves a happy life. With you.'
>'Rachel... I'm so sorry.'
>'Go on, Max. It's time...'
>cliff scene plays out, Max explains everything, tears up the butterfly photo
>they help search for survivors the next day, most people survived
>drive away with Obstacles playing
>in the side mirror Max sees the doe running alongside the truck
>it slowly fades away and Max smiles

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>>125164785

I thought the same thing at first, but when I started shipping maximum victory a whole new dynamic opened up. It's awesome.

Especially if you look really far out and realize that Maximum Victory essentially ensures Max becomes a famous photographer and Vicky does too as well as a model.

>>125164785
That's the exact gripe I have with it and the reason I also haven't read it. Just feels bad for them not to be like they're meant to, together.

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>>125164527
W-why do you ask?

>>125165346
>actually worrying about their future
ewwwww

>>125165304
t-thanks for the repost you could have just taken a screencap anon, it's pretty long to copy and paste

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>>125165650

>not using your imagination :^)

>>125165304
You say this is what you want, but if anything like this actually happened everyone would be blowing gaskets about it not giving you any choices.

>>125165567
you know why

>>125165995
you are welcome

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>>125165450
I feel the same way. And I will never ship Max and Victoria, so it's a lost cause for me to even read it.
Not complaining because there's a constant flow of Pricefield goodness, but I just wish I could follow something created by someone in the general.

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>>125165304

Once again, cut out the part where it forces that sac Chloe choice and instead make this the outcome of making that choice just for the utilitarian shits that chose it.

We already know that Max canonically would sac AB outside player control.

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>>125164527
u fuckin perv
use your imagination :)

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Will /lisg/ survive the winter?

;_;

>>125168031

it'll be around but it'll be E4 chloe-status. When will we crank it up to 11 /lisg/?

>>125167169
I agree with you, but I guess I figured that it wouldn't matter because the whole scene is part of the nightmare, with Max's consciousness being manipulated by Rachel, to give her enough time to explain the truth.
They'd never do something like this anyway, not enough misery for the frogs.

>>125163194
>>those rope marks and welts all over Victoria's body.
Damn. Make you wonder how things might have turned out if Max just gave Victoria what she clearly needed

>life is strange physical edition has new content
>unlocked by looking at a back to the future dvd
>Max remembers Principal Strickland saying "maintain discipline at all times"
>after humiliating victoria by dumping paint on her, and seeing how she reacts, a new option appears, other than 'comfort' and 'make fun of'
>'operant conditioning'
>max takes victoria back to her room
>Taylor and Courtney are confused where Victoria went to, after an hour of searching find her in Max's room
>nude and suspended by ropes from ceiling with welts across her body
>looks completely at peace for the first time in her life
>new submissive victoria goes to kate to apologise,
>averts roof suicide attempt.
>kate goes through with that police complaint
>police execute search warrant on nathan's room, find corroborating evidence of all previous claims (gun manual, photo of drugged chloe, burner phone with threats against max and drug purchase details)
>nathan breaks under resulting police interrogation and implicates jefferson
>jefferson arrested, no more abduction and photo-rape
>all the whipping victoria recieved subtly disrupts local air currents
>causes butterfly effect
>tornado goes the other direction after spawning on friday, moves off into sea saving town
>to celebrate, max and victoria make 'chaos theory' their safe word.
>needless to say 'chaos theory' is never again mentioned in the LiS script, greatly improving the quality of the writing

>>125168110
Never. Winter will bring in newfags from the steam holiday sales. They'll restart all the old discussions and that will last until season 2 will be announced.

>>125162963
MEGA repo is down for a little, I'm having some issues with it. Will post when it's back.

>>125167156
>>125165450

Not only that, but LiT isn't even about the real Max. It's an AU version of her who never met Chloe or was never good friends with her. LiT Max is a completely different person from the one we know and love.

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>watching replay of /lisg/'s vgl game yesterday

Do people actually consider Obstacles and Something Good to be 'weird' music? Like I'd consider it some of the most inoffensive 'indie'.

>>125169968

No matter what anyones opinion of it is, it just doesn't fit for vgl--ESPECIALLY our goal song. Definitely should be using Get Well Soon.

>>125170380
I figured Glass Walls for an anthem, Naughty for a goal horn, and Obstacles for a special horn when Pricefield Cuteposting scores.
Unfortunately LiS really doesn't have music that pumps you up, it's more mellow.

>>125168967
Weak submissive Victoria is worst Victoria. Taking away her aloofness and domineering attitude completely ruins the appeal of her character.

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>>125170812

I like narratives where Vic is usually the dom but Max gets to try it out and Victoria likes it.

>>125171887
That's reasonable. Sounds like a nice balanced relationship.

Suddenly remembering when the episode 4 trailer first hit and was totally epic and the amazing implications when Nathan dropped the storm line and seemingly changed everything we thought we knew... Good times...

>>125172739
Those were good times. Episode 3 didn't leave us much to talk about and so those 10 weeks were unbearable. Then we got an episode that was actually worth the wait.

>>125172739
Suddenly remembering when retards didn't try to force memes like this... Good times...

>>125164785
Cool. It's still just as good.

>>125167156
90% of fanfiction and likely even more than that is Pricefield. The game itself is primarily that. As are these threads. I'm glad LiT isn't. Read the /lisg/ story if you must; last I heard Max is beating Victoria up in there.

>>125169653
>completely different person
I wouldn't say that. Was the AU Max in the game a "completely different person"? I would argue she retained a whole lot of the Max I "know and love" and very much so does Nova's.

>>125172914
>SOOOON

>>125172739
I still don't understand how they could have rewritten so much of the story in such a short time that Nathan in a previous script that made it even into the trailer had knowledge of the storm.

>>125173065
Well, AU Max from the game still had the same childhood as regular Max up until the day William died and the aftermath of that. LiT Max never knew Chloe it seems, most of her childhood would have changed drastically because of that and as a result, so would her character.

>>125173065
>Was the AU Max in the game a "completely different person"?

Yes, retard.

>>125174324
>it seems
It's simply not said in there, so we can assume she did.

>most of her childhood would have changed drastically because of that and as a result, so would her character
Arguably. But that doesn't even matter because for the sake of fiction we can assume that she just is the same? And he mostly writes her like that.

I agree that stories where Chloe exists and is just Max's friend and both "ok" with them being with other people taste strange, but even those I can enjoy.

>>125173938

Seriously, could they really not just cut that line from the trailer? Just replaced it with the "my dad is on his way, you're all fucked." Still dishonest since Sean never showed up and was made entirely irrelevant, but still.
I'm so freaking curious about what went on behind the scenes of this thing, it kills me.

>>125170812
I second this.
I don't understand the thing some people have for Max domming Victoria.

>>125170812
Victoria is weak, she admits it herself.

>>125170812
>>125175175
Count me in. I can dig it if it's not too over the top, but icy Victoria is where it's at.

>>125173938
They may have just used that trailer to throw people off. It doesn't even seem that they'd have the production time to change it up that much, like it wouldn't even be possible.

>>125175175
I'm all in favour of this >>125171887 suggestion but the way some writers handle dom fics makes it look like Max is bullying Victoria. She just comes across as too out-of-character. Imagine if someone wrote her treating Chloe or Kate the same way.

>>125176302

Multiple lines of the same nature are in the game files of that scene itself.

>>125175880
Dunno why Warren is so obsessed with Max. Brooke would be much better for him.

Any recent word from Imagination Lord or the other devs, or are they all still just sucking their own dicks?

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>>125173938
>>125175167
>Be Michel
>Experience the timeline where the original lis endings are such a resounding worldwide success that dontnod offices become a target during november 13.
>Go back in time and rewrite the endings into what's in the game now.
>Sacrifice millions of people's happiness for the sake of his friends.
>Smile a little whenever someone picks bae.

>Not just go back and warn everyone because reasons.

>>125176740
Clearly stuff was cut, but I'm saying they might have just put that in the trailer as a red herring even though they changed it a long time ago.

Either that or it was a very small part of the story that was just very easy to quickly cut out. And if that's the case, then it probably isn't of much consequence. They said that the stuff they cut was stuff they didn't like.

>>125177156
>putting red herring in the trailer
"How not to write 101".

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>>125176595
>Imagine if someone wrote her treating Chloe or Kate the same way.

Oh I am, it's quite a sight.

>>125177156

That's not what a red herring is.

>>125169653
>LiT isn't even about the real Max.

I don't really understand fan fics in general, but I certainly don't understand what the appeal is in just completely changing the characters into other people. You might as well just read an original story. But whatever, just not my thing.

>>125177156
>Either that or it was a very small part of the story that was just very easy to quickly cut out. And if that's the case, then it probably isn't of much consequence.

More likely it was too BIG a part of the story and they just didn't have the time to deal with it, which would explain why Nathan as a whole was abruptly killed off screen and ignored for the entire finale.

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>>125177462
You want Max to sexually bully Kate?

>>125178525
it's not really bullying if they enjoy it, and beg for more when it's over

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>>125178525
Wouldn't that be something.

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>>125178710
>>125178757
>>125178820
It doesn't feel like there's a very Kate-friendly atmosphere in this thread.

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>>125164503
>>125178820
Suicide watch for Kate once again in chapter 7.

>>125178085
It was episode 4 that the scene in question was cut from. We know that ep 5 was changed a bit from the leaks, and it's possible they had to prioritize what they could fit in. Nathan wasn't ignored though, his role with Jefferson and Rachel was explained.

If it was actually something really big, they may have cut it because probably no one would have been really that interested in Nathan all of a sudden becoming a big key character. With everything that anyone might not like about ep. 5, I doubt it was lack of Nathan that really irritated most people.

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>>125179009
>Kate begging for more (ie enjoying herself)
>Anti-Kate
plz don't slutshame anon. Kate would love to repeat some of the things she did on that video in a loving and supportive environment with her many female lovers

I think it would be really great if they would just canonize bae ending and skip forward 10 years or so into Max and Chloe's life and have a season dealing with the hardships they face in their relationship. Possibly working through the issues they have with destroying the town and whatnot.

It's not like coming of age as a teen is the end of stories worth telling about people. They could do like the Before Sunset trilogy where they just explore different times in the character's relationships and lives.

>>125179378
>Nathan wasn't ignored though, his role with Jefferson and Rachel was explained.
Not well enough. We still don't know the specifics of when Jefferson's project got started, how Nathan got involved or how they managed to convince Sean to renovate a fucking $1.3 million bunker for the supposed purpose of a photography tutorship. We don't know any more about Rachel than we did in Episode 4 either. For a game that put so much effort into characterising people and places through background information it's stunning just how little was revealed in Polarized.

>>125177156
>might have just put that in the trailer as a red herring
The trailers were outsourced to a company that werent as clued in on development as they should have been. The version of the episode they received was the pre cut Nathan lines version, they thought it made for a good sound bite so they used it, not knowing that dontnod would decide to cut that scene before release

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>>125179876
>bae/bay ending
>canon
NEVER!!!

>>125179378
>Nathan wasn't ignored
>no one would have been really that interested in Nathan
>all of a sudden becoming a big key character
>I doubt it was lack of Nathan that really irritated most people.

nigga u srs?

>>125179876
>validating either ending with a continuation
Nah

>>125180559
Kill yourself, cunt.

>>125179639
stop. kate is pure.

>>125179876
>Before Sunset trilogy
I just watched these, fucking great

>>125180712
Kate is a slut and proud.

>>125180034
It's really fucking easy to cut a scene from a trailer though. Literally like 10 minutes of effort.

>>125180034
If that's true then it means the episode was mostly finished and it was just a small part they cut out.

>>125180559
I don't think I've ever seen anyone say that the thing they hated about ep. 5 was that they wanted more Nathan.

>>125180034
>The version of the episode they received was the pre cut Nathan lines version
Oh anon, don't make me imagine a version of the scene once existed with those lines intact... Don't make me wonder what other things were more or less complete and playable only to be then cut out...

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>>125179639
>loving supportive environment
>relive a traumatic experience
You're no katefriend.

>>125180861
>I don't think I've ever seen anyone say that the thing they hated about ep. 5 was that they wanted more Nathan.
A shit load of people say it. It's not what people point to as "THE problem", but it's certainly a large one. He's the primary antagonist and most important character after Max and Chloe, who are both obsessed with him from the start. He's been central to the plot since the beginning of the first episode.

>>125180861
Of course it wasn't THE thing everyone hated most. That's because Episode 5 failed in so many regards that the handling of Nathan's character was jut one of many flaws. A lot of us still wanted more Nathan though.

Reminder that this is a meme thread masquerading as a life is strange thread masquerading as a reddit thread

>>125180139
>>125180676

>not wanting a continuation of Chloe's and Max's story

I hate the endings as much as anybody, but my desire for new Max and Chloe adventures would easily defeat my disdain towards episode 5.

>>125180874
We can see everything that was cut late on with all the loc dialogue from the game files, most of which our audio anon(s) ripped also.

>>125165304
i would love this to be honest.

Honestly at this point, I'm kind of glad Nathan was just cut from the episode altogether. Max, Warren, Chloe and Jefferson have been completely ruined for me thanks to their ridiculous treatment in episode 5, at least Nathan's last appearances were strong.

>>125181195
>Max and Chloe pissing around trying to go on an adventure when they have no personal stake like they did with Rachel's disappearance or Kate's suicide
>The supporting cast is completely wiped out with the exception of Max's parents
>Story poisoned by the bullshit interpretation of Chaos Theory and the inevitability of another storm caused by Max's powers
For some reason I just can't see the appeal in a continuation.

>>125181647
It's sad to say but I kind of agree. Frank and possibly Joyce might just be the only characters I can think of who were treated in a dignified manner. David got his redemption scene but it was ruined by that absurd puzzle scene. And poor Victoria deserved so much better than what she got.

This like the Katawa Shoujo general now

The only work of fiction that ever did time travel right was Slaughterhouse-Five, and that wasn't even actual time travel

At least there's more content to circlejerk over until Season 2, right?

>>125182230
>At least there's more content to circlejerk over until Season 2, right?
Like what? The director's commentary and artbook? We know they're not gonna make DLC and I doubt any of us care for Vampyr. I suppose there's that visual novel to look forward to.

>>125182230
There will be Vampyr to circlejerk over.

For those of you refusing to buy the LE, would you buy it if it turned out the director's commentary was actually honest about the problems, and answered some questions about what went on and got changed behind the scenes?

>>125182679
Fuck off, shill.

>>125182679
No.

I am not even sure why they are doing a LE, they should just work it out 1-2 episodes to fill it out with sci fi and relationship scenes

>>125182976
>they should just work it out 1-2 episodes to fill it out with sci fi and relationship scenes
wut?

>>125182679
It would be nice if they revealed what they cut just so people would finally shut up about it.

>>125180898
>Kate can never share physical intimacy with anyone under any circumstances
>she'll be traumatised by that video forever
>she'll never recover
who's not a katefriend?

>>125183091

Oh anon, that's never gonna happen. We're NEVER gonna shut up about it.

>>125182679
If it was guaranteed not to be a commentary full of backpatting and talking about how relatable Warren is, I'd be more enthusiastic about potentially buying it.

>>125183081
Like 1 or 2 DLC episodes to have more relationship scenes and explanation to the powers.
Maybe an episode in the AU hanging out with nathan and victoria

Would Kate be successful on Blacked?

>>125182679
I might buy if the directors commentary was a literal flagellation, where the directors were beaten with metal rods while apologising for each and every fuckup.

And it was on special.

>>125183224
Well, that's probably true. Even if it turned out that the shit they cut was the most retarded shit ever written, people around here would still hail it as the ultimate glory that they were robbed of and never stop complaining about how unfair it all is.

>>125182679
How is the director's commentary even going to work, I'm assuming it's not going to be commentary over the game like they do with bonus dvd features, is it just going to be some separate thing?

Director's commentaries never reveal much of anything anyways, they didn't say anything important at all during the live stream event.

>>125184102
I imagine it'll be through viewable items, kind of like how Portal had those optional commentary nodes, where they comment on things generally related to that point in the game. And possibly during non-interactive cutscenes, like a DVD.

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>>125183410
Why do you have to be so mean?

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>>125184102
It's going to be in-game with Michel dancing around the screen.

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Random Maxpost.

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Night /lisg/

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reminder to maximize your victory

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>>125188932

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Here's to our match against /5n@f/ tomorrow!

I won't be able to catch it but I believe we can find a way!

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>>125190051
Well we lost the first game and tied the second. So if there's a pattern that means we should win this coming one.
Too bad the team is autopilot and seems to heavily favor defense. But at least there's times where it takes initiative and makes shots on the goal.

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>>125191810

Fuck off page 10

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>>125195996

Blackwell Podcast Episode 5 - Nathan Prescott
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4Zn_sMm2uk

Haven't actually listened to this yet, but someone posted the previous ep in another thread and a new one just went up. Dunno if they got the VA on this one too, doesn't look like it.

God, hearing the consequence+menu music again physically fucking hurts.

>>125198031
Fuck off

>>125198241

I'll cop to that, this podcast sucks, I jumped the gun hoping there'd be an interview.

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>>125191976

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>>125201072

You'd better start believing in lewd stories...YOU'RE IN ONE!

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>>125202086
Lewd for everyone!

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>>125202573

obligatory

http://coffeeskater.tumblr.com/post/119720167755/whoops

>victoria will never trace your abs with her fingers when she's half awake

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Pricefield...?

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>>125202772
why live? ;;

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>>125202954
Always.

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>>125203018

why indeed ;_;

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>>125203250

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>>125202954

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>>125203447

check this one out if you haven't already

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11574484/1/I-Ordered-Pizza-But-Was-Delivered-A-Problem

Pizza delivery AU with an incredibly thirsty vicky

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>>125204191
I've read that fic before and it's cute. :) Too bad Victoria dislikes pizza. I would eat it for her.

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>>125204517

same t b h

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>>125202954

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>>125205223
Night /lisg/ :)

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zzzzz

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>>125207325
ᴱᵛᵉʳʸᵒᶰᵉ ᵇᵉ ᑫᵘᶦᵉᵗ⋅ ᵀʰᵉʸ'ʳᵉ ˢᶫᵉᵉᵖᶦᶰᵍ⋅

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New chapter of So Far Gone is out.

>>125207835
WHAT DID YOU SAY ANON? I DIDN'T HEAR YOU

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>>125209698
Thanks a lot, you piece of shit! You woke Chloe and Max up!

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>>125209173
Just read it. Not too many thoughts of the latest chapter. Seems like Rachel will be out of the story for a while, so it's setting up more time for Max & Chloe. Wonder what will happen when Max's parents show up and are obviously displeased (Too bad the story makes them seem like douches so far, but I guess every story needs an antagonist).
I'm also so glad that the story didn't go down some genderqueer route. Although I have an idea of why Chloe would have that stuff.

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>>125210206
Yeah I'm glad they dropped it in the way that they did, though i'm sure it'll be back. Max's parents seems like it will be the next arc after some fluff.

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>>125210493
Chloe said that she wasn't changing who she was, but she obviously had that stuff for a reason. My guess is she had a plan to run away, disguised as a boy, to Seattle to find Max. Since Max's parents obviously don't like Chloe in the story the only way for her to get close to Max would be to be someone different.
Or maybe it was something involving Rachel.

>>125209762
her hand looks extremely weird in that picture
its like she is deformed or something

>http://quenenie.tumblr.com/post/134514496049/honestly-desu-to-be-honest-to-b-honest-it-would-be
Some lovely lewd chaseprice.

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>>125215965

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>>125216051
Oh jesus fucking christ what is that.

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>>125219556
I'm not a scientist but that looks like pure cause and effect to me.

>>125168031
>survive
Have some Queen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jtpf8N5IDE

>>125220204
The second moon is too small for an eclipse

>>125213880
Yikes!

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>>125216051
Get your spray ready

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who /CANON/ here?

Where my WarrenXMax brahs at?

>>125222017
fuck off

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>>125222017
Your friends are all dead

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What would you do if you met a tiny Kate?

>>125222874
(That old-school mango style. Memories come back!)

I would adopt her and educate her to both not take ancient desert religions generated by overheated brains seriously and still have high moral standards.

Also, tell her about the evils of organized religion, organized state and organized crime.

Buy a hamster and a violin. Einstein liked playing violin while reflecting about math lego.

Generally, good parenting. I would probably die worrying about the risk of failure...

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>>125223096
>evil
>organized state
XYZ my son...

>>125222874
hug, adore and cherish her

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>>125222874
Tell her how to shoot a gun and how to detect an FBI narc
"Keep your hair short"

>>125222874
"A storm is coming"
>Teach her how to hack ATMs

Does some have that kate.jpg where the colors have been changed to christ-chan's colors?

>>125224962
Someone*

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>>125226959
OTT

>>125227226
Chloe would dump Rachel for Max if she was still alive. I do think Max would say she wouldn't mind "sharing" just to make Chloe happier even though she would scream on her pillow for an hour later.

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Fresh outta the oven.

>>125228269
I think Rachel would just encourage Chloe and Max to be together. She'd probably tease and flirt with both of them trying to make the other jealous just for fun though.

>>125229071
Thirsty Max is cute.

>>125229071
Haha Max in the corner. Love the colors!

>>125229119
Yeah definitely. I don't even think Rachel ever saw Chloe in that way. Maybe she would've fucked her but doubt she would want a serious relationship.
"I don't know if I would like the teasing you mentioned, it would probably make Chloe uncomfortable. Thanks for dying Rachel.

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>>125229492
>I don't know if I would like the teasing
How can you not?! Rachel would keep things exciting between them but both'd know she's just fooling around because she probably would have a boyfriend.

>>125230232
*she probably would have 3 boyfriends and a sugar daddy

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>>125226959
Is this the council of elrond?

> Google demands images of sandwiches
> Only hamburgers detected
FU Google and why the sexual innuendo

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>>125230393
She could even pull it off for a time.

TFW you will never understand this

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Before Episode 5's release:
>Lol Mari's theories're shitty.It's way more than shitty to become true
>Chloe has to die thing doesn't make sense.Don't worry they will come with unpredictable story
>We're gonna learn everything about Max's powers,Rachel and Prescotts even Nathan,spirit animals..
>Jefferson knows about Max's powers
>Nathan,Frank,David or Samuel's gonna save us
>Victoria's with Max,she'll save her
>(After seeing Cemetery scene from leaks) I'm sure it'll be Williams,Rachel's or Kate's grave.
>Rachel's the doe and Butterfly and probably we'll see her in Max's dream
>Blue Jay's Chloe

After Episode 5's release:
>Mari's shitty cliche theory became right
>We visited the SF art gallery for 3 seconds. FOR 3 DAMN SECONDS
>Jefferson became a silly bad guy from Disney
>David came to save us.He's a former-soldier but he can't even fight,just listens teenager's orders. Even he doesn't know she has some time travel powers.
>Victoria's with us in the dark room.Laying there and we can talk her or not.Just it.
>Nathan get killed,Victoria too
>Nathan knew something about the storm but they cut it.
>Warren explained Max's powers(!) (thanks warryn) We found out her power causes/related with Chaos Theory and storm.It's not like we didn't know or something.
>Storm is only coming for Bay because Chloe lives in there but Max's the one who keep changes the time
>Prescotts story erased.Nobody even mention their name.
>Rachel's story fucked too.She isn't doe,or butterfly,bluejay or even shit.
>Spirit animals thing died.Blue Butterfly's Chloe just it.
>Chloe dies again in one of endings (unpredictable) It gives you a lesson: You shouldn't have used your power.And you shouldn't play this game.Now erase your choices and cry like a bitch.
>Chloe has to die thing comes true, Cemetery scene explained with that.
>The other ending's short but it's less cliché than other.We saved Chloe,storm's hit the town and gone.That's it.
>Epilogue: Use ur imaginations:)muh budget

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>>125182679
> it if it turned out the director's commentary was actually honest about the problems

sorry anon but that's impossible

>>125231239
I can't get past this fucking trainwreck...

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>>125231636
Life is Wreck

>>125222496
>>125222516
GO APE

>>125232680
no u

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holy shit /lisg/ two qt 8/10 lesbians moved in next to my apartment
its not what i was asking for but at least i can watch them and envy their true love
now if you'll excuse me i have a qt couple to help

>>125233361
you lucky bitch

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>>125232495

>>125233361
Mister Jefferson senpai please

>>125233576
Jefferson's japanese voice kinda sucks, I'm usually a sucker for JP versions, but he lacks emotion in the "you either know this or not Max". I won't even talk about Nathan's though...

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>>125233804
Maybe it's a cultural thing?
I have never been to a Japanese classroom....

>>125233361
>ywn be the third wheel to a qt lesbian couple

>>125234094
>he doesnt want to be a qt lesbian couples best friend
i mean its better than nothing

>>125233956
Doubt it, Nathan is now a 30 year old stud with big biceps
https://youtu.be/eCRvW6p5YfI?t=680

>>125234502
>Senpai Jefferson
>Yandere gurls

literally disgusting

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>>125234502

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>>125234502

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>>125234502
>30 year old stud
Holy shit. Nathan what happened to your voice????

>>125234502

Holy shit, , that's kinda embarrassing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgEGAjCWeiw

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>>125234502
What's wrong with your voice??

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>I did it senpai, just like you told me! I think they loved the ending!
>Good Mi-chan, here's your reward...
>N-Not there Tite-sama!!!

>>125234502
Why are comments and ratings disabled on all official japanese LiS videos? I mean, I guess comments I sort of understand because of spoilers, but why ratings as well?

>>125236482

Because they know everyone hated the ending and will thumb it down because of it.

>>125235838
Tell it like it is Mr. Plinkett.

>>125236580
All official english LiS videos have overwhelmingly positive ratings on youtube, even the trailer for the LE which came out after ep 5 when the disappointment was at its peak. Outside of /lisg/ I haven't seen much hate for the ending to be honest.

>>125177747
I don't think LiT Max is a different character really. She's very recognisably Max. However it's quite deep prose so there's some that's I guess... speculation? On what Max may think about stuff.

>>125169653
Its an alternate universe, right? Nova hinted that there was something to do with Chloe in an old draft. I think Chloe is really difficult to get right, though, maybe he doesn't want to juggle more characters against each other.

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>>125234502
Actually I think he sounds like the "typical chest-expanding japanese schoolyard bully" so it's not too jarring if you are not used to "american Nathan".

> Imagine they redo everything from episode 3.5 onwards, correctly, but only in Japan
> Golden triangle heroin import, must have
> 3 times as expensive

>>125236959
>Outside of /lisg/ I haven't seen much hate for the ending to be honest.
I've seen it get a fair bit of flak from certain parts of tumblr. But that's often the SJW/angry lesbian type criticism rather than general disappointment with the shit writing.

>>125236959

I've seen plenty. Any rating below like 98% isn't worth the risk.

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Postin a bit of comfy to get the winter feeling going.

Is Oregon nice in the winter?

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>>125237421
> Max goes to school near a nuclear reactor
> "Sacrifice Chloe"/"Write off town because of nuclear accident"
> You sacrifice Chloe
> Incompetent company executives still manage to transform the reactor into a heap of Corium
> Press F to pay respects

>>125236959
>>125237517
That's because the writing isn't anywhere near as bad as people in this thread make it out to be. There's like one probably legitimate plothole that people have pointed out with auto-pilot Max rewinding after the focus in the bathroom. That's about it, most of the rest of the arguments made here are not anywhere near as solid as people like to insist they are.

Either that or you have to assume that everyone else on the internet is stupid and we're the only smart ones, and that's a bit gratuitous innit.

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>>125239886
No plotholes doesn't equal good writing, and I've seen disappointment on youtube and tumblr as well.

>>125239312
Why not?

>>125239886
The writing isn't that bad no, but still bad enough for us to complain, it's a LiS thread, a lot in this game was making us hope for more, the blue animals, the spirit animals, the great character development, the meaningful choices (or so we hoped), etc. So when all of that crashed it was a big disappointment. It's not bad writing if you compare it to the average game, but a lot worse than we were led to believe.

>>125239886
>everyone else on the internet is stupid and we're the only smart ones, and that's a bit gratuitous innit.
dunno m8, it sure feels like that sometimes

And bad writing isn't just plot-holes. It's lazy writing. Info-dumping and villain monologuing. Abruptly ending whole character arcs and letting so much build up go nowhere (Nathan, Sean, Rachel's blood oath and the supernatural stuff etc).
Contrived narrative progression (Max 'forgetting' the storm' rather than giving her a proper reason to assume it wouldn't happen, Max not even thinking to try warning Chloe in the focus about the storm to at least maybe save Joyce).

>>125239886

There has been plenty of disappointment. Pretty much any review I read, while far more forgiving than us, said the episode was at least not as good as the previous ones, there's been plenty of complaints on youtube, and Tumblr is completely pissed off.
The only legitimate apologism I've seen is shit from Reddit people have posted here (and being an apologist kind of necessitates acknowledging everyone else's attitude anyway).

Granted I haven't looked very deeply, but I haven't explicitly sought out negative opinions either, it just seems to be what I most often encounter.

>>125239886
The gripe most people have isn't time travel plotholes. We are perfectly willing to suspend our disbelief for that. The main problem is the tornado itself. Saving Chloe's life = summon a tornado. That IS shit writing and has nothing whatsoever to do with the butterfly effect or chaos theory, despite the devs best effort to force chaos theory as the final, half assed explanation for everything.

>>125233361

Play the soundtrack loud all day and see how they react

Also move out before the tornado hits

>>125240578
>The only legitimate apologism I've seen is shit from Reddit people have posted here
This. Critics were disappointed, Tumblr is pissed, only Reddit seems to be content and "analyzing the deep philosophical blablabla", seriously.

>>125179876
I am with you, Anon.

>>125240982
I'm always up for some more Pricefield, but I REALLY doubt they wouldn't fuck it up for good and ruin what we have even now.

>>125240609

It's not even just the logic of it, but the fact that the characters and emotional arcs were all shafted in favour of some bullshit plot device that was completely unconnected to anything. The fact that the plot device made no sense just added insult to injury.

>>125240609
you fucks don't know about magic realism, it does not need some kind of scientific explanation. as long as it fit in the theme of the game, which it does, its just fine

you can really tell that video games are aimed at entitled uneducated kids by the way these discussions are going, no wonder nobody treats games as serious art. then you have all these teens going online and complain about "writing" as if they had any fucking clue what the fuck they are talking about

>>125241472
And you do? Does your degree in psychology make you some sort of expert?

We're just discussing, and opinions are a thing. You don't need to let them upset you.

>>125241212
How exactly were Chloe and Max's character and emotional arcs shafted by the tornado? If anything the tornado forced everything into focus, even if for no apparent reason.

>>125241472
Hope this isn't bait.
We're not specifically asking for scientific explanations, we're asking for some meaning at the very least. "Why did you add those features? What's their role in the story?"

>>125241472
You clearly don't know anything about story telling. Sure you can have magic and don't need a scientific explanation, but in that case, you still need to establish that it actually IS magic and set the boundaries for how magic works in your world early on. You can't just completely ignore it for 99% of the story and then at the very end go "it's magic, I don't have to explain shit". That's the very epitome of what you should never do as a writer if you want to tell a satisfying, sensible story.

>>125241472
>it does not need some kind of scientific explanation
Then why did the game constantly question the science of it all?

You can't just call 'magical realism' any time something doesn't make sense. Even magical realism has rules. This is just really really shitty lazy scifi.

>>125239886
>Either that or you have to assume that everyone else on the internet is stupid and we're the only smart ones

>>125241472
Knew someone would try to disprove it! Thanks anon.

>>125241912
Not that guy, but LiS made references from the beginning about magic vs. science and how no one knew what the explanations were. The confusion between magic and science was never ignored, it was always a part of the story.

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>>125241472
Don't listen to this shit
It's either bait or a random faggot who thinks that because there is "time travel" any plot disruption, contradiction and completely senseless character behaviour is acceptable. Sourcing LiS from /b/ why dontcha.

>>125241912
>you still need to establish that it actually IS magic

like with spirit animals and time bending powers? eh? EH?

>>125242170
>The confusion between magic and science was never ignored, it was always a part of the story.
Yep, throw in some "Silence of the Lambs" and "Ancien Indians" and we are all set.
The customers have to lap it up because otherwise they are entitled and don't know shit.

>>125234502
It's as bad as I predicted

You don't need to try and defend the game so hard, we all enjoyed at least some part of it otherwise we wouldn't be here. Grow a fucking brain, you can't just say "it's magic" if you're using that magic to make us choose between a fucking town and the character you've been trying to make your player attached to the whole game

>>125241542
I'm not him, but here's a little doozy for ya:

Did you know that opinions can be retarded? Like, no, post-modernism, the reader is not really the author, specially when the reader is a fucking idiot.

Specially in the videogame industry, the opinion of the average videogame player holds little to no weight whatsoever because the average videogame player is about as bright as your average lobotomy patient.

>>125242170

The fact that it was being actively questioned and treated as impossible is what defines it as NOT being magical realism.

Also holy shit, just one more shitty parallel to LOST.

>>125242170
Except they did go with the explanation that the tornado was caused because Max messed with the timeline. People complain because it makes no logical sense WHY saving Chloe caused a tornado. "it's magic" doesn't help here because the game already established certain rules in episode 3/4 when you save William.

Saving William caused a logical chain reaction that led to Chloe being crippled. You can't just change the rules one episode later without explaining WHY they changed, because saving Chloe doesn't cause a logical chain reaction, but instead causes a magical tornado.

>>125242271
That is not establishing anything regarding the tornado, you dumbass, that is just dropping even more inconsistent shit in there without having any set rules or explanations for it in the end.

>>125242879
>People complain because it makes no logical sense WHY saving Chloe caused a tornado
>no logical sense
>logic
>in a game about magic time powers

it makes perfect thematic sense

>>125242756

As Max Caulfiled awoke one afternoon from uneasydreams she found herself transformed in her class into a time traveler

>Do I really have powers?
>I need to find a way to prove I have powers
>If Victoria's phone rings, I'll know this is for real
>Holy crap I have powers
>How did I get these powers?
>Why did I get these powers?
>What can I use these powers for?
>Can I tell anyone about these powers?
>Will people think I'm crazy if I say I have powers?
>Will Warren want to study me if I tell him I have powers?
>I should stay up late researching these powers
>Chloe need me to prove that I really have powers
>What are the possibilities of my powers?
>Why are my powers hurting me?
>Why aren't my powers working on the doe?
>Why won't my power work with Kate?
>What are the limitations of my powers?
>(and I'm not even past episode 2)

>JUST KIDDING GUYS IT WAS MAGICAL REALISM OR SOMETHING IDK SO DEEP

>>125242756
You are a very stupid person. Kafka establishes the supernatural element of the story in very first sentence. He didn't have an ominous vision about turning into a cockroach, then does something completely different for 99% of the book and at the very end he magically turns into a cockroach.

>>125242824
I was actually thinking of the LOST parallel as well, good or bad it's not much different than that, even the way it plays out in the end.

Also not everything in the game treated it as impossible. Max herself questions whether or not things are magic or supernatural or whatever, and there was a book on Chloe's desk at one point about supernatural or mystical weather or something like that. There were some individual characters who come down hard on one side or the other - the scene with Ms. Grant and Samuel sitting on the bench together is a good tip off towards science and weirdo stuff intermingling. But the story itself never comes down hard on either side.

>>125242879
>because saving Chloe doesn't cause a logical chain reaction, but instead causes a magical tornado.
Yeah, this. People say it's a literal butterfly effect but that can't be it, because the tornado comes at the exact same time no matter what you change. It doesn't vary depending on how much max rewinds, so Warren's 'altering time has an effect on the environment' doesn't make sense.
The only justifiable cause is that it's some fucking God tornado sent for the specific purpose of punishing Max for saving Chloe (or activating her powers at all), and said 'God' will only relent if she undoes all of her time-fiddling,

>>125243092

Except it doesn't even do that.

>>125242996
>inconsistent shit

its perfectly consistent, the game starts right away with the establishment of magical powers with the appearance of some kind of mystical animal. its established right away that this world is not entirely realistic and I can not see how the tornado should be a violation of the internal logic of this world

>>125243243
>good or bad

Bad, anon. Bad.

>>125243092
Are you really this stupid or are you just acting? I just told you, the problem is the shift between different rulesets. Saving William DID have a logical consequence. Saving Chloe has a magical tornado.

>>125243228
>Kafka establishes the supernatural element of the story in very first sentence

>>125243307
>the game starts right away with the establishment of magical powers with the appearance of some kind of mystical animal

will you fucks stop pretending already that the existence of magical supernatural powers comes as such a big surprise to you that it begs for scientific reasoning

>>125243160
>As Max Caulfiled awoke one afternoon from uneasydreams she found herself transformed in her class into a time traveler

Write the whole plot of LiS in Kafka style or the whole Kafka in LiS style and I'll buy your book, promise!

>>125243471

The difference is Kafka's magical element is treated as banal. It's completely unquestioned, and everyone just reacts to the emotional truth that Samsa has become a disgusting, embarrassing burden. There is no expectation of an answer because no question is invited.
Max's powers are immediately and continuously questioned, only to be given no answer. The very first line is "Where am I? How did I get here?", and she questions her powers immediately after rewinding back to the classroom and has to prove them to herself and others with her future knowledge before anyone believes they're real.

This game COULD have been a perfectly fine story of magical realism, exploring fantasy "what if"s in regret of an estranged friend's death, but that's simply not what it is at all.

>>125242756
It's not even the same medium
How gutter-level retarded does one need to be?

>>125243471
I'm seriously getting sick explaining this to you.

>>125243467

>>125243307
If anything goes, then there is no tension, no story and there is no interest.
Maybe Pokemons will pop out at the end and it was them all along, WHO KNOWS?

>>125243092
Wait what?

>>125243471
If Kafka wrote his story that Samsa saw a spirit cockroach and had a vision of turning into a cockroach, but it never gets expanded on and then at the VERY END of the story he turns into a cockroach with no explanation whatsoever, it would be utterly terrible writing as well.

>>125243575
>the whole Kafka in LiS style
Good god, that sounds terrible. I want to read it twice.

>Grete playing violin for the boarders
>Gregor bursts in
>"Ready for the mosh pit, shaka bra!"

>>125242756
BTFO

>>125243370
I don't know, I kind of liked the end of LOST even with the dumb heaven shit. The ultimate implication is simply that people don't have the capacity to truly comprehend everything in the world, even with science and all.

In fact, the butterfly effect is generally regarded as a kind of proof that some things will always be elusive to us since the cause and effect is too random to be calculated. Even though it might seem like a cop out explanation, the fact that we can't explain everything that happened actually does float pretty well with chaos theory.

I think LOST and probably LiS as well were basically designed from the outset to where they would never have to explain the mysteries because the whole point is that you CAN'T explain the mysteries. It's kind of a cop out way to approach a narrative and it pissed people off with LOST and it's pissing people off again with LiS.

>>125243956
This. Having one magical element in the beginning doesn't suddenly give you the excuse to write anything you want without making any sense of it. "hurp there was a spirit animal so now we can have a tornado for no reason"

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>>125243956
>Maybe Pokemons will pop out at the end and it was them all along
makes about as much sense as the ending we got

>>125243307
If Chloe suddenly turned into a chair if you chose to sacrifice her, would you like the ending? After the kiss ofc so you still had the OTP.


NO! IT WOULD MAKE NO FUCKING SENSE!
You're just stupid enough that your brain is actually satisfied with a tornado popping up "cause you saved Chloe".

>>125244407
>NO! IT WOULD MAKE NO FUCKING SENSE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwdba9C2G14

>>125244407
>your brain is actually satisfied with a tornado popping up "cause you saved Chloe"

Yes. Its as satisfying to me as a guy transforming into a cockroach for no apparent reason.

>>125241212
Exactly my thoughts; "insult to injury" hits the nail on the head.

There are definitely aspects of the final episode that I liked. It's not so much that it is purely just a horrible piece of writing or anything - it's that it could have been so much better and that the previous episodes had me hopeful it would be.

>>125241735
We spend the entire episode concentrating on stuff that was not and should have never been the primary focus of the story. Next to none of Max's and Chloe's problems and development in their relationship are progressed or properly brought to an end in the episode, let alone that of the other characters. The game spent 4 episodes exploring these characters and the intricacies of their personalities, lives and relationships only to then mostly lose all those threads in the tornado. I guess you can say the first half of the episode that is spent trying to get Chloe back can be considered Max's realization that she loves her and wants nothing than to be with her - but that was sufficiently established at the end of episode 3 and the beginning of 4. It's just gameplay-y action stuff and the Vortex focus is hardly reward with the lack of emotional impact, awkward dialogue and glaring disregard of what has happened up until then.

Next to nothing of what the game dealt with prior to the final episode is being worked through in it, and the stuff that is is mediocrely so at best (David's "true intentions", Jefferson's villainy, Warren's role, Nathan's despair, Victoria's regret, Rachel's revenge, ...). When you spend months getting heavily invested into a set of characters and a mystery, having it all ripped apart in what you thought would be the culmination to it all (and had plenty reason to assume it was going to be - the devs saying that, for one thing) is not an experience I would call "good". There's no real closure.

>>125244668

You have a complete lack of understanding of fiction of you think the two are in any way alike.

>>125244750
>You have a complete lack of understanding of fiction

I actually have a degree in english literature and I am pretty good at what I do. Not trying an argument of authority here, its just that your statement amused me a bit in this context.

>>125244208
I suggest you read a chain of 4 or 5 big posts in the last thread so you realize what's the problem with what you just said.

>>125243160
This is exactly from where you can develop a story as long as you stay constrained to a set of in-story rules.

I don't even see why the tornado is there in the first place. Who is responsible for that crap?

This is also why I don't bother with Hollywood shit anymore - movies have become fucking unbearable with plotholes larger than arizona crater, unbelievably dumb character reactions, deus ex machinas that kill the plot in a minute, or work towards an interesting ending that is never pulled off but instead shat upon by writers who are seemingly ADHD idiots being gimped by movie executives. George Lucas is now everywhere.

>>125244668
I did not just read this... Did I?

>>125244925

No one cares, psych major.

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>>125244668
Underage babby what you doing on 4chan?

>>125244925
>I am pretty good at what I do
Try again.

>>125244956
>Who is responsible for that crap?
>This is also why I don't bother with Hollywood shit anymore - movies have become fucking unbearable with plotholes

I'd say internet forums have become fucking unbearable with turbospergs thinking that obsessing over minor plotholes constitutes valid criticism

What counts as youtube 'movie critics' is a good example for this

>>125245236

People wouldn't question minor details if the story pulled off enough emotional catharsis to obscure them as irrelevant.

All this "magic is ok" bullshit... I'm fucking insane in the brain!

>>125245402
Interesting point. Makes me wonder about the emotional intelligence of the players though.

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>>125244925
They real just fart out degrees nowadays

So we will have to turn to China now even for adequate literary analysis and not only for industrial products?

>>125244925
Not him, but you honestly sound like you have no clue about literature whatsoever, to even consider these 2 stories comparable.

In one story, the supernatural element gets established immediately in a very casual way. The reader suspends their disbeleif and goes with it because the rules are being set, this is a world where a guy wakes up and turns into a cockroach.

In the other, the supernatural element is established as a big part of the mystery. There is a tornado coming and the main character is trying to figure out WHY and how to stop it.

How can you have a degree in english literature, yet be too dumb to understand the blatant difference here? Is your second degree by any chance psychology?

>>125245616
>emotional intelligence
DISPLACEMENT CRITERIUM FOR ACTUAL INTELLIGENCE

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>>125245616

Decent enough to see through the extremely manipulative nature of the endings as the devs tried quite brazenly to disguise their story's logical flaws beneath a misunderstanding of what a tragedy is, instead of just delivering a legitimate catharsis.

>>125245803
This

>>125245803
>Is your second degree by any chance psychology?

Its history.

>>125245851
>instead of just delivering a legitimate catharsis

Such as? Can you outline an alternative ending suggestion which would have satisfied you? Honestly curious.

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This angle is so much hotter. Probably cause I'm not crying...

>>125246157

I've been over it so many times since it ended I honestly don't have the energy.

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>>125246157
Look up
>>125165304