Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

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iobt builds

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Leaked Squire C3 footage.

>>124821802
Not any info so far from me.

I still need to get to Sadhu C2 for Possession anon.

>>124821941
me on the left

>>124821698
Tuppin did nothing wrong.

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I dedicate this post to the memory of Epigraphist Schmid.

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>>124821941
>they know

>>124822092
He never got to make that last rubbing. ;_;

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That shout chat on Gabija. Why the fuck is this allowed?

So today is the last day of the CBT, when's the next one?

>>124822336
Gas everyone in shout.

>>124822336
Post a screenshot, I need to see the cancer but don't want to log on.

>>124821941
me in the middle

Fucking Granado Espada fanboy/shitposter 'Karjalainen' got Disc kCBT3 changes thread locked. Welp.

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-kcbt3-changes-summary/40733

>>124821941
me on the right
>never got my white hair
my only regret

>>124821941
Me in the bottom left.

>>124823135
Malcomette?

>>124823267
There will be another thread soon, I couldn't even update the main post.

>>124823267
Wtf why?

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Mount preview.

>>124821982
thanks for the hard work. Sometimes I wonder if the skills will even be remotely the same as they are now on release.

So, there were already discussion that some guilds might take over world boss spawn areas as their base or good grind spots. What's the decided area for that? Will we become one of the assholes who claim grind spots or boss spawn area?

All the cancer concentrated in one place nice

>>124823882
>So, there were already discussion that some guilds might take over world boss spawn areas as their base or good grind spots.

uhmm.....change channel?

>>124823882
big red kepa spawn

>>124824031
>change channel
some maps only have up to 2 channels

>>124823882
We were having a monopoly on worldbosses in the first/second week before most people were 100/200.

>>124823281
There's still time

>>124823619
He was shitposting, got flagged several times. IMC locks threads who have to many flags in it.

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>Two Hand Book
>Two Hand Stick
info when

pic unrelated

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>>124823027

>>124823650
Tentacle rape!

>>124821982
>I still need to get to Sadhu C2 for Possession anon.

<3

>>124824332
these fucking niggas

>>124824332
Always leave world/area chat on every game instantly.

>>124824332
The usual faggots of /y, nothing new.

Anyway, how is the heal with latest nerf? Is c2 a must now?

>>124824276
That's a really retarded system for a discussion forum.

>>124824770
B-but muh barrens chat

>>124824876
Yeah, it's pretty retarded. Luckily the post shouldn't be deleted so there's an archive of information there.

Currently making the new thread, I'll link it here when it's up.

>>124825117
The forum sucks with its weird scrolling system. You need to open up a blog.

Less than 10 hours left.
How long until everyone starts gathering?

>>124825380
lots of people are already there

>>124825380
>tfw gonna sleep for 5 hours

>>124825310
I kind of prefer the forum since I can just post small updates that I find now and then.

>>124823882
>can declare war on other guilds and presumably are able to pk them as a result
>can't declare war on non guilded people, leading the meta to being people not joinining guilds so they are immune to direct pk during world bosses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN8lRMnXU7k

What it feels like to be a boy character at the /tosg/ meetup

>>124825601

>idolshit

I hope Magburk falls on you while you sleep.

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>>124824332

>LFM grinding in demon prison 2 -1 need healer

>>124824332
>blocked some people on shout
>see them at the meetup

>>124825567
>the meta to being people not joinining guilds so they are immune to direct pk during world bosses

That's like having a "I can't handle pvp" tag below your nickname.

How many hours till the beta ends?

>>124825728
watch whole vid and tell me you don't feel all tingly inside

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTEf5yVRQso

>>124825728

Oh come on anon, I don't even like or care about idols just thought it was cute

>>124825859
2 hours.

>>124825567

You need to accept the declaration of war before they can pk you

>>124825859
Login and look for Albrechtsberger.

>>124825745
H O N E S T & H A R D W O R K I N G

>>124825859

6 bongs and 30 bings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynx26LJ1YC4

>>124826126
>>124826034
Which is it?

when its the game suposed to be released?

>>124826235
9h 41m

>>124826235
look at timer-chan at the meetup

>>124826301
mid/late 2016

>>124825601

Why can't I stop watching this.

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I had fun /tosg/, thanks.

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Time for work for me but have a merry last day everyone

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>>124826562
>christmas
>merry

>>124825806
When phat loot is on the line, being pk'd by everybody else at the boss the moment you show up is a distinct detriment.

>>124826056
Well then.

Will IMC ever stop shitting all over wizards and archers?

>>124826726
>christmas
>not the worst day of the year, reminding you how much of a failure you are for nolifing all year and how much you are alone.

>>124824332

I swear to god if any of these faggots is one of you I'll...hope that our future guild leader is smart enough and doesn't invite them into the guild.

>>124826854
learn from me anon, im just laughing it out

>>124826768
I discussed with Kim Hakkyu, he hated how in Ragnarok Online, Wizards and Archers could kite and snipe much higher level mobs without being it, which basically gave them a leveling/grinding/farming advantage, especially on maps with hard-hitting, immobile mobs.

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>>124826854

>>124826919
I thought Nishikawa's from /tosg/?

>>124824332
I've spoken with 2 of those people. One of them was the cheapest awakener on the server, and the other gave me some boss cards for testing with sorc.

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>>124826854
stop, this is nice thread

Is there still no translation of yesterday's patch notes?

>>124827253
Not yet, sadly.

>>124827253
>>124827340
I sent all the moonspeak to my KR friend, but he got auto-enrolled in the army in South Korea (2 years forced service) so he doesn't have much free time. :/

>>124827049
not sure, but looks like
>>124827076
>hes nice
>hes cheap
they are still giant faggots tho

Daily reminder that there's a reddit mob who's lurking tosg threads.

If it's sentper, he can choke on a cock.
Nekumata is alright though.

>>124827049
Yeah, they are. I don't see Nishikawa in that screenshot though?

>>124827573
reddit and /vg/ have shared the majority of their communties for a long time now
it's not surprising and really you just need to stop caring

>>124827673
>mods

How do you do backwards b?

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What do people do in those squire tents? Are they for sleeping?

>>124827840
Who are you quoting?

>>124827905
They missionary sex

>>124827905
That's how babies are made.

>>124827938
You

>>124827905
>>124827978
>>124828064
>reproduction tent
>summons a "Baby Companion"
gg p2w

>>124827573
Please don't mention me in the threads, I appreciate it though.

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>>124828375
just like my chinese cartoon

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>>124828637
He did it, the absolute madman.
Thanks.

New thread on official forums is up.

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575

I usually post most information first here, though this is a better way to keep stuff archived.

I should also be making a link to big posts in the OP as well this time, so it should be easier to navigate.

Do we know how to decompress files from new korean ipf packages yet?

>>124827690
You need to kill yourself, never accept those reddit cunts.

You're all a bunch of sad fucks

>>124829451
why not
they're more tolerable then you pieces of shit 90% of the time.

>>124829507
This is a no bully zone

>>124829507
did you get turned down by your tosg crush or something lol

here's your (You)

>>124829507
>You're all a bunch of sad fucks
Thanks captain.

>>124829545
upvoted!

>>124829545
Fuck off >>>/reddit/

>>124829545
you haven't seen the posts from that granado espada faggot

Kill yourselves.

>>124829545
I'm 100% serious, Do the honorable thing and end your life.

>>124829757
Nah

>>124829629
>>124829662
lmao
so insecure
stay cute

>>124829545
>>124829629
>>124827690
reddit fags = forum fags = shout fags

>>124829840
What's wrong with being a shoutfag?

>>124829971
Stop projecting nigger, you're the only faggot here who goes to reddit

>>124829971
It's like that cause you accept it.

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>>124830014
>What's wrong with being a shoutfag?

>>124829971
You might be, but I'm pretty sure /tosg/ in general is not Reddit.

I've gone there a couple times just to see what it was all about. It's pretty shitty 2bh and the ToS subleddit is slow, uninformative, and full of retards who don't know anything about the game.

>>124829971
>muh 4chan secret club

I mean, this isn't 2004 anymore.

There are a lot of things you could discuss right now. You've chosen shout chat and Reddit

>>124830053
lol, you have a reddit mod actively announcing his presence and then the fags on the forum who constantly mention / link /tosg/
your sekrit club isn't sekrit

>>124830080
how is it my fault exactly
i don't give a fuck, you do, maybe you should step up your game if you want them out

>>124830202
It writes itself, anon.

>>124830209
What are their team names so I can block them

>>124829971
Fuck off reddit shit.

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sapper lewds

discuss

So I hate cooldowns, which class at R6/7 have the least downtime while grinding?

>>124830414
Fencer has 0CD skills

>>124830414
archer

>>124830360
Wasn't sapper the one with the spats?

>the lack of an international beta will lead to this general turning into 5% discussing kobt and balance, 5% 4chan vs other ToS fanbases, 5% guild discussion/drama, 85% kiss/lewdposting

>>124830559
I believe that's Rodolero.

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>>124824814
>how is the heal with latest nerf? Is c2 a must now?
pls respond

>>124830467
Is it fun?

What's the FOTM path for Fencer?

>>124830414
Fencer has Flanconnade which lacks a cooldown, and at C2 (R7) gets a second no-cooldown skill. But by the time you reach R6 you have enough cooldowns that you generally shouldn't have much downtime. And depending on how you build, chances are you'll have enough <25s cooldowns that you just never burn through everything

>>124830645
New C1 heal is 50% less effective than old C1 heal, C2 heal is 25% more effective than C2 heal.

>>124830715
Er *>25s

>>124830834
What about Mass Heal?

>>124830834
>C2 heal is 25%
C3 heal is 25% more effective. C2 heal is about equal, review your maths anon.

5 cells of 10% = 50%
10 cells of 5% = 50%

>>124830868
No fuck, I was right before. I need to go back to sleep. ;_;

>>124830702
Hoplite, Corsair or Barbarian all have decent viability for Fencer

>>124830414
If you get 4 classes in the first 6 ranks, you won't have a downtime no matter what you pick.

Unless you're a "full support" memer.

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>>124831049
>hoplite

>>124830414
Diev has an ability that reduces you and allies' cooldowns by %20

>>124831049
Hoplite isn't quite as viable, or at least optimal, as the other ones. Hoplite3 is really better off going Doppel.

Is Discabbalist still around? Was wondering if Wheels hits flying mobster.

>>124831380
Isn't it ironic that Diev skills all have longass cooldowns?

>>124831380
That's nice but Diev is an absolutely shitty class. Too long cast time, cooldown, not enough duration (other class instacast buff last longer), and stationnary gameplay. It's worthless aside from specific gvg/boss encounters.

>>124830414
>>124830715
>>124831380
>>124831468
who cares about cooldowns if you can 1hit everything with your Lv15EQ :^)

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comfy

>>124831575
I think the icing on the cake is that you can fail to make the statues. Just lol

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>>124830834
>>124831013
Doest this mean less heal per square but more squares to deal damage?

Only the x% of heal changed or the base heal/damage and scaling changed too?

>>124831691
How do you zoom out like that you hacker? Hope you reported the exploits at least.

>>124831691
>new screensaver
>1360x768

Get a new display made for humans not ants faggot

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>>124831691
>screensaver
>1360x768

>>124831830
Max HP scaling changed, but there's more tiles which means its damage potential has increased.

Other base values for Heal should not have changed.

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>>124828893
I never realized yui looked like a fusion between them.

Would be cool if earlier circle classes got slightly downsized models and slightly bigger heads. IIRC RO novice looked somewhat younger/smaller than 3rd classes.

>>124831830
>Doest this mean less heal per square but more squares to deal damage?

If they didn't nerf the int/matk bonus, then yes. This nerf was actually a buff to INC cleric. Heal will not be as effective for the Priest 3 > Monk builds, which it should be, since they don't have any INT/SPR investment.

>>124831871
>>124831878
pls don't bully craptop users

>>124831851
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>>124831691
>1360x768

ayyLMAO

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So who's going to make the secondary guild for when this Cattly guy and his cohort of attention-whores destroy the main guild with drama?

>>124832508
There will be several guilds as the limit is only 25.

>>124832624
There will only need to be one guild after the first two months of the game.

>>124831950
>>124831997
Welp, thanks guys. INT clerics stay stronk.

>>124831968
>3rd classes
pls

IF you really want to be cure then chibi perma fem swordman is the thing.

>>124832624
The initial max is 25, you can increase the capacity

>>124832624
Good.
One guild for ERPers, avatarfags and cuteposters.
And another one for normal human beans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9pDKcXcUqg

dankest new song

>>124832776
These titles

>>124832624
ERPers, Kissposters, Shoutfags, Attentionwhores should go to the containment Cattly guild.

That's it. I'm gonna do it. I'm going to become the main guild leader.

>>124833258
You must be a non-kissposter, non-shoutfag-non-ERPer, non-Dramaqueen to be a guild leader.

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>>124832759
>ERPers
>avatarfags and cuteposters
please don't lump us together

>normal human beans
get the fuck out normie, where the hell you think you are

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>>124833337
This is what you should do to kissbaiters.

>>124833258
Just note that it's a lot of work, even outside of people management. You'll be needed online very often and are vital to the guild growing quickly. I don't even know where I'll be at launch so I gave up on doing it myself, you really need to be a NEET level person for the first month or 2.

>>124833462
ktos have them too?

>>124833462
I hope they change the guild leader emblem to something different than the party leader emblem.

Do scrolls made by a pardoner have a separate cool down to your normal skills? I wonder if it'd be possible to drop 2 level 15 cures at the same time using simony with divine might.

>>124833462
If you add the achievement line, thats 4 lines of text under your hp bar. Talk about clutter.

>>124834065
Pardoner scrolls should their own cooldown, so that's possible.

I don't know if that was changed though.

>>124834065
Can cure even be Simoned?

Swordsman C1 Peltasta C2 Holpite C3 Templar C1

How's this for a guild leader build?

Guys tell me about sadhu and out of body skill. I haven't played clerics at all, but considering of going cleric3-sadhu2-whatever or cleric2-krivis-sadhu2-whatever in the kOBT/next int beta.
I kinda get the whole idea of moving out of body and spamming autoattacks and all, but still something isn't clear for me.
1). Does OOB buff damage?
2). Does OOB buff attack speed? How noticeable is it in iCBT / current kCBT?
3). In some webms it looked like sadhu lands 3 simultaneous hits per 1 autoattack, is that right or was it just extra attack from sacrament/cafrisun/whatever?
4). Can you use skills not related to sadhu in OOB? Will they come from real body or projection?

>>124834327
>Pelt c2
No anon. Don't.

Templar guild masters should be tanky though.

>>124834327
Why Pel 2? Get Doppel instead

>>124834327
Peltasta C1, Doppel after Hoplite if you want to at least do some damage

Will there be seven minutes in squire tent heaven with LoliPantsu tonight?

>>124834637
There is lewd and there is lewd, this seems kinda lewd.

>>124834221
Good, because now I'm planning on going cleric c3 pardoner c1 Oracle c1 kabbalist c1 the next beta or release.

>>124834254
Yes, so can stuff like safety zone and a few other skills from Oracle and cleric, and divine might 10 adds 10 levels to the scrolls you make, so that basically means level 15 skills at c1 of a class.

>>124834442
OOB has it's own damage, but that can be doubled with any magic circle you can activate. (i.e. Zalciai, Cure, Monstrance, etc.)

OOB had a faster attack speed but that's been changed in kTEST.

OOB does three hits per attack. It's not due to any skills that give extra hits on attack.

You can use skills which in OOB. They'll come from your body, unless you use Astral Body Explosion or Vashita Siddhi, which are Sadhu skills.

>>124834442
OBB does Matk based damage.
Attack speed is fixed.
The 3 hits is default.
Can use most skills but they will be cast by the real body.

Most on hit modifiers will not be triggered by the OOB attack.

OOB attack speed was nerfed in latest kCBT patches, compared to iCBT2.

>>124834472
>>124834517

Tried Dopel already and I don't think it's worth it just for the spinning skill. Rather choose a second circle of Pelt by R6 since nothing else really interests me that much. I can pretty much auto attack for 2000-2500 damage with crits with Holpite 3 alone. I think I can manage without a more DPS class for a while until R9.

>>124834723
>Yes, so can stuff like safety zone and a few other skills from Oracle and cleric, and divine might 10 adds 10 levels to the scrolls you make, so that basically means level 15 skills at c1 of a class.

You're outdated as fuck.
Divine Might was nerfed to the ground forever ago. It now only adds 1 level no matter what.

>>124834768
Not sure how good Rodolero C1 is but that's another option. Shield Push reduces defence. If you got Rodolero C2, Slithering apparently dodges Magic skills.

Welp back to work translating then. Imc says the faster we get the quest dialogue the faster the next beta can get released.

>>124835020
>Imc says the faster we get the quest dialogue the faster the next beta can get released.
Are they gonna pay the translators at least?

Don't suppose anyone uploaded the new music from the kbt

>>124834065
>level 15 cures
Damn i'm thinking about going c2/3 cleric, especially after heal change.

Cure is damn strong, even at lv5, i didn't tested cleric3 tho. My full INT Priest2>Krivis2 was breezing throu anything.
I was planning to go Bokor1 for the r6, but sadly the Effigy wasn't fixed for us. Future Plague Doc build it is, unless we get some drastical changes in cleric tree.

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>go meet up with /tosg/ they said

>>124834913
I thought was just for regular skills that you use that weren't simony, or the forum post that I read was just extremely outdated that talked about pardoner skills. Oh well, maybe I'll go pardoner c2 then.

>>124834327
Sword Pelt3 Squire2 Templar
>managing a guild while being poor

>>124835107
Was posted in old thread.


Freq Box - Symphonix (https://my.mixtape.moe/qmijnj.mp3)

Remember You - Symphonix (https://my.mixtape.moe/fpzjpk.mp3)

Gran Fracaso - SoundTeMP (https://my.mixtape.moe/nifzcx.mp3)

Hypodynamia - SoundTeMP (https://my.mixtape.moe/emdzum.mp3)

>>124835069
Hell no. They made that obvious early on.

>>124834768
Swordsman tree is really lackluster when you don't go Highbarbsair. The classes by themselves aren't even that good, just the combos between them. Hell, when they fix Highlander it'll be useless, Barbarian is trash on R6+ and dual-wielding is not for tanks. You really can't get anything more useful than Rodelero by now, and even that is hot garbage.

>>124834442
Here's the two damage formulas that work on OOB

>No buff
((mATK + 70 - mDEF) + Elemental Damage) * 1.5


>Buff
(((mATK * 2) + 70 - mDEF) + Elemental Damage) * 1.5) - (Gem mATK * 1.5) - (Rod mATK * 1.5)
or
((mATK + INT + LVL + Weapon mATK + 70 - mDEF) + Elemental Damage) * 1.5

>>124835256
>404

>>124835462
>dual-wielding is not for tanks
You can tank absolutely everything without a shield just fine

>>124834738
>>124834760
Does that mean i should boost int and use rod for OOB?
What do you mean by
>can be doubled with any magic circle you can activate
How is cure related to damage dealt by OOB?
Is kCBT OOB attack speed still faster than autoattack?
3x matk still looks kinda overpowered to me, even without increased attack speed. Is OOB affected by aoe attack ratio?

>>124835462
>STILL doesn't know that pelthop2sair2 easily shits on kiritosair

come on now

>>124835507
Is it damage per tick? Should i multiply it by 3?

>>124835568
If you're not planning on going Spear+Shield what's the point in getting Peltasta? The taunt is kinda overrated.

>>124835194
We also said "Play in Gabija"

>>124835762
The three hits you see is just for the cool factor I guess. The sum of all 3 hits is what really matters.

>>124835194
>get gud they said

>>124835525
I can still view all of them, anon.

>>124835616
I'm currently using a Rod for more damage as a Sadhu.

Buffed OOB is from any magic circle activation, it seems to be a unique skill interaction. The formula here shows how it interacts. (>>124835616)

I'm pretty sure the second formula is correct though, it shouldn't be a penalty solely for rods.

>>124835795
>taunt is overrated

t.highlander shitter

>>124835868
That's why i'm asking if the formula you provided for 1 tick or the sum of 3 ticks.

>>124835914
Until they fix aggro, taunt is more of a luxury than a necessity, specially in dungeons.

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Remember how Out of Body could demolish breakable structures quickly with it's three hits?

That's also gone.

>>124836058
rather get a futureproof taunt than a shitty skill that doesn't stay relevant past lvl 50

>>124836058
If you get the attribute, taunt will increase your health as long as it's active.

>>124836123
Just drop a cure or zaibas down. Structure gone.

>>124836009
the sum of 3 tics, don't look at the tics as individual damage.

>>124835795
>Swashbuckling is overrated
Not really, even one circle puts you at 11 targets and gives you +10 max aggro over a non-Swashbuckling user, comboed with Swordsman's Provoke attribute you would never lose a target unless they straight up dance over your damage and you do nothing. Swashbuckling's effect isn't that it straight up puts you ahead so much as that it lets you establish more than someone who doesn't have it. In a party, the HP attribute is also pretty nice, the only downside is that it doesn't refill what you gain but that downside is brief.
Guardian and its attribute are also a good reason for Peltasta. I don't need a shield when Dex gives me a good evasion rate, boosted by another 16% by Guardian.

>>124836123
That shit is too slow now, even slower than normal auto attacking what the hell was IMC thinking?

>>124836303
Zaibas works, Cure doesn't work like that.

Cure has to apply the 'Cure' state to deal damage.

But that's beside the point, it's the fact that also doesn't work anymore for Sadhu.

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>>124822392
>>124826562
Glad you guys liked my autism lights

>>124836513
Probably they were thinking about fixing sadhu cus they were too op for cleric branch?

>>124836723
Sadhu's OPest skill is Possession, not OOB. I rarely even use OOB, but now with this nerf I'll probably won't even put points on it, Sadhu is still OP.

>>124836723
>too OP
>for the cleric branch

>>124836723
>they were too op for cleric branch
But clerics are OP, sadhues were looking fine if you compared them to some other cleric jobs.

>>124836980
Well they nerfed monks and druids as well. What else was op?

>>124837249
C1 cleric

K Disc, are we doing some guild stuff tonight?

>>124837249
They haven't nerfed zaibas or cure yet.

What happens if the GL Templar quits?

>>124837473
RIP GUILD

Ask Disc

Who is going to confess at Kateen tonight!!!!

>>124837382
Cure and Zaibas don't need a nerf tho.

Cure is extremely limited in range, not practical except against bosses and high HP single mobs.

Zaibas is the only offensive skill Krivis possess.

Possession is strong, but you need 2 circles of Sadhu, and the class offers not much else skill-wise that is not OOB centric.

That's 2 ranks you could spend elsewhere.

>>124837382
Should I go cleric2-krivis for zaibas, zalciai and daino, or cleric3 for extra heal and max cure? Is cure affected by matk?

>>124837376
We can try out the guild event, sure.

>>124837473
No clue plus I'd rather not check by deleting my Templar.

>>124837606
Cure is affected by matk.
Sweet spot is Kri 2 Cle 2 so the attribute (zaiba aoe and cure attack speed).

>>124837606
Why not both?

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Nothing to see here.
Just Dmn doing Dmn things.

OOB is not a main skill, no one would build a Sadhu for OOB. Setup is too annoying, damage is barely better than Holpite auto crits. Nerfing OOB was a mistake. Instead of balancing the class they made them a one trick pony. Possession is the only worthwhile skill now.

>>124837863
>lhz_dun02.jpg

>>124837874
>Possession is the only worthwhile skill now.

Worth 2 circles of sadhu alone?

Isn't Priest 2, Bok 2 or even +1Kri&+1Cler a better alternative?

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>>124837874
>damage is barely better than Holpite auto crits

>>124837739
Cus i wanna go sadhu2-druid(2 for rank 7)

>>124838198
pls fit that in 7 ranks

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aah what is this.

>password remembering doesn't work
AAAA SEND HELP

>>124838078
My 200 Holpite can auto crit for 2500-2700~

My 200 Sadhu can OOB auto attack for 2800-3000~

>>124838021
Don't think so, now with Plague Doctor being the natural advancement for Monks/Bokors. It's just better to rethink your Cleric build all together.

>>124838331
the chinks got your account now

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>>124838331
Well shit.

>>124837574
I don't really think they need a nerf either, but they and carnivory all have the most potential for damage in the game. Some people might see this as being too strong. Carnivory already got a huge nerf though by putting chortasmata in rank 2, shits useless now.

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>>124837574
>Zaibas don't need a nerf tho.

>>124838419
Sad but true since you can't change your email or password without a phone pin confirmation (which they own). They will probably hack the account after a few months invested in, to RMT the stuff.

>>124838406
What's wrong with having druid c2? I think they will add new OP class for clerics at rank8

>>124837863
Seven minutes in squire tent heaven with all the Dmns!

>>124838331
Yeah, Nexon has maintenance. You can still log in and play (apparently), and I didn't get booted off the server.

>>124838559
>posting this dumb image again

kill yourself retard

>>124838559
better to compare lvl 5 frost vs lvl 5/10/15 zaibas

>>124838662
literally how

>>124838738
I don't know since I've been logged in before that happened.

Login servers might be down though or something.

>>124838507
What does it mean? Is that a maintenance?

>>124838559
Frost Cloud has no hit/target limit. Also cherrypicking much? Ele has a shitload of other useful skills, like Hail, Electrocute and Meteor. Krivis only has Zaibas, one of the few cleric spells that hits flying mobs.

>>124838583
>new OP class for clerics at rank8
dog, sheep boy and army chaplain wooo

>>124838812
Well, go solo stuff and record webms.

>>124838675
Whats wrong with it, retard?

>>124838840
>What does it mean? Is that a maintenance?
That's Nexon's server maintenance announcement prompt, usually the same for all Nexon games.

>>124838840
>like Hail, Electrocute and Meteor

lol you don't really believe this?

ele has nothing, those skills suck dick

>>124838940
You want me to solo the guild event then? It might not be possible, since it's apparently another raid thing plus I don't know if runs are limited.

Well, might as well check this out anyway.

>>124839113
You can also level a healer, a Priest -> Pardoner, or an Alchemist.

>>124838972
Oh, you.

>>124838840
>Krivis only has Zaibas
that under certain stat conditions manages to bring down 140k hp in just 1 circle.
>Ele has a shitload of other useful skills
You dont NEED anything else if you have just 1 strong spell like that with TWO charges, ESPECIALLY the crap you named.

>>124838941
you are dumb as shit that's what's wrong

>>124839279
No argument? Go erp with your retard friends.

where the confessions at

>>124838331
Are the gooks still using this activex/internet explorer only launcher shit?

>>124839416
I'm going to confess tonight. I'm going to do it.

>>124839412
go be a dumb monkey on the tos forums

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Hey, I'm home.

>>124839416
I love you

>>124838840
Tell me then what great useful skills wizard has.

>>124839272
>bring down 140k hp in just 1 circle
uh, how, magic weak boss weak to lightning?
With ful memelemental set and cleric buffs maxed? Did i miss something?

>>124839204
I'll get my Sadhu to C2 first since someone's been asking for that for a while now, then I'll probably get an Alchemist up.

Want me to hold off on checking out the guild event then?

>>124839272
>You dont NEED anything else if you have just 1 strong spell like that with TWO charges, ESPECIALLY the crap you named.
30s cooldown says otherwise. Try it and see how fun it is. Elite Mobs are HP sponge, Zaibas alone will not always cut it at high level.

>>124838972
As an Ele C3, I say YOU suck dick. Have a good day on plebtown.

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>>124839416
I'm going to marry Toshinou Kyouko.

>>124839272
clueless retard who only played low level and thinks you can clear the whole game or be useful in dungeons with one spell on a 30s cd

>>124839594
Yeah. I'll get my Squire to rank 6, we'll find some budget healer, and can try that stuff.

>>124839525
>oooga booga kissu fucboiii

>>124839545
What have you done again, Dmn? Report your glitchs at least please.

>>124839601
>30s cooldown

compared to ele's no overheat 2 min cooldowns that are 1/20th the power of a zaibas?

>>124839640
Means nothing, I have a ele c3 and many other chars, ele is by far the worst piece of shit I wasted my time on.

>>124839749
i'm sure you do friend

>>124839701
I can always just run my Goy for the event, I don't have to be Templar.

>>124839749
>compared to ele's no overheat 2 min cooldowns that are 1/20th the power of a zaibas?
Now you're just making shit up. You've probably seen a level 20 Krivis 1Zaiba a boss and took your experience from it. Try playing one to 200, you'll see how fun and effective a single spell on a 30s CD is...

>>124839640
simply reddit my friend, take my upboats ~ : )

>>124839545
Scorne go home, ur drunk

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>>124839545
I'm home too

>>124839715
literal retard

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Watering Can confirmed newest meme offhand.

>>124839915
I have you fucking retard, holy shit, do I need to spell it out for you any more?

every class in the fucking game has higher cooldowns than 30s, with no overheats, Zaibas is ridiculously op.

>>124839583
Dueled with a guy with 2k+ int and 80 attribute while me having 145k hp.
>>124839601
>Try it and see how fun it is
But I did, its op as fuck. And what is even more op? A druid on top of it.
>get red panto speed
>find field boss faster than anyone
>solo it with zaibas
>its a krivis/druid party

>>124840082
you are ridiculously retarded

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I'm ready for R7 classes, what about you?

>>124839685
I have 2 200 lvls while you have shitposting. BTFO kiddo.

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>>124840076

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Reminder that it's bad luck to not confess to someone tonight.

>>124840270
sure thing monkey

we are all shitposting and calling you a retard, you are clearly the genius who is right :^)

>>124840208
until you can provide reasonable proof that zaibas is fair and balanced in comparison to other classes you can fuck off mate.

>b-but it's my only skill xDDD
try levelling past 30.

>>124840106
>my experience comes from a DUEL, with absurdly bloated stats due to bug abuse, and I believe this applies to the actual game

>>124840307
As someone sitting around watching the world burn with you faggots, I could really do without this shit.

>>124840264
I know one of my three builds, because it's basically the same as I have right now, just an extra circle. I have no idea how I want to progress a C3 Cryo now, and I have no idea how I plan to build around musketeer

>>124840368
you realize literally any offensive class in the game does more dps than krivis because they have more than 1 spell right?

you can't possibly be this stupid

>>124840364
>samefagging this hard
or
>muh erp fucboii circlejerk clique
or
>have 0 experience with the game

>>124840106
>2k+ int
Ok you're a retard. I'm done discussing with you.

>>124840519
Krivis has more than one spell too, it's called taking your advancement quest into a new class.

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>>124840264
Fuck R7, I'm going Chrono 3. It'll be good, I swear. It probably won't even be that hellish getting there!

>>124840404
>>124840553
You think that int isnt reachable in future? Or you think those hp arent reachable? Confirmed for forum shitposting erper.

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>>124840525
>actually calling out for samefag
>still trying to shitpost with irrelevant shit

stop embarassing yourself monkey

>>124840594
>M-my class isn't bad! I can change it to another one and be good! T-that's why my class is good!

>>124840519
He's baiting you anon. Zaibas is super good but come on.

>>124840693
Because Zaibas is so hard to avoid.
What are you? Mob-tier AI?

>>124840738
>he thinks this proves anything
so you are newfag lebbit also

>>124840594
and every other tree with 6 circles in offensive classes will still have more spells and more dps

are you done being a retard yet

>>124840519
>>124840896
do you know how this game works?
like seriously
more skills =/= more deeps than zaibas

unless those skills are doing 40+ hits every 30 seconds then it's not comparable, you can give me 30 skills and they won't match zaibas damage.

>>124840693
You're a retard if you think 2k+ int characters will fight against stuff with the same equipment and resistances than what you have now. This game as a whole isn't futureproof right now as we don't have jack shit to rise defense. Wait and see how equipment change on 200+, because it's bound to change dramatically.

>>124840872
it's alright monkey chan, don't get upset, i'm sure your friends on the tos forums will agree with you when you make your krivis op thread!

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>>124839416
>confess to LoliPantsu
>she tells you to prove it
What now?

>>124840864
Thats not the point though, the point is its strong as fuck, stronger than anything ele has COMBINED and its gets only STRONGER. And you defend this shit?

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holy shit reading this is giving me a headache

>>124840991
you are not even trying anymore

>>124841007
>futureproof
And to think I might have taken you seriously.

That fookin shout though... ....
...

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>Can't take Kino because Linker is mandatory
>No use taking Elementalist because you need to commit at least 2 circles to it

I mean I guess you could take Kino at rank 4 but it still isn't even that good. This is the problem with Wizard. This is why everyone takes Sorc at rank 5 and why Pyro is so much more popular than Cryo.

>>124841229
you never even tried in the first place
come back when you actually levelled a character past c3 you shitstain

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>>124841113
do it

>>124841346
please post your level 200 characters :^)

>>124841293
It means you can't judge the future by what we have now. Are you that dumb?

>at a field boss
>krivis drops his lightning circle of big deeps
>takes out 25% of its hp within seconds
>use all my skills
>not even a scratch

HONEST
HARDWORKING
CLASS

>>124841414
>futureproof
Its means you think you can use memes in arguments.

>>124841543
while you use retarded exploited stats and skills in a DUEL to base your argument on how good a skill is

just kill yourself

>>124841645
NO YOU KILL YOURSELF PIECE OF SHIT

>>124841645
You dont even know how much mdef I had.

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Should just roll Krivis and one shot this instead fug

I want to play it, but will it be playable with a controller for the archer class? and even if I use a controller, how would I switch between skills?

>>124841780
Nerf incoming

>>124841526
>be a wizard c3 fallen for the futureproof meme
>have to watch this shit while I apply lethargy to damage with earthquake

>>124841526
>not investing in skills that scale with stats
Will you guys ever learn.

>>124841790
Okay-ish with archers. You have to bear with it though when your skills/autoattack hits a different target.

Also as long as you're not Lolipantsu-tier retarded, You can fit everything in the hotkeys.

>>124840693
Sure, 2k int might be feasible in the long run... but if you had magic defense to match, it wouldn't matter. Just because gear doesn't currently scale to that point doesn't mean the skill is broken. There are a lot of skills that are utterly broken with 2k int/str when used at level 20. I was with a monk that solo'd glakuman world boss in just over a minute, with some hilarious damage (20k+ double punches and a bled that ticked for 40k+). There is no balance at that point, I wouldn't even bother arguing about it.

>>124841780
my krivis at 200 can kill that thing in ~5 seconds

but so can my hoplite

basically all multihit skills are retard tier op, and I thought everyone knew this already.

>>124841780
Zaibas deals almost same damage and is aoe. It also doesnt have any damage penalty in pvp.

>>124841976
I went Loli's build for my swordsman and I still fit everything on my controller's slots, Including potions. I don't know wtf you're on about.

>>124842092
>is aoe

lelmao