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Doll in Black Edition

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>Patch 1.07 Info and How to Access the DLC
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/11/20/bloodborne-the-old-hunters-out-tuesday-patch-1-07-detailed/

>Planners
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com

>MP Range Calculator
https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/

>Screenshots
http://gematsu.com/gallery/bloodborne/
http://imgur.com/a/UsDJ2

>Guide Scans
http://justsomefaggot.imgur.com/

>Concept Art
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_bloodborne_a.html

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Chalice Speedrun Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkznHPuGY4
http://imgur.com/a/YobZp

>Chalice Dungeon Glyphs (Gems, Weapons, Runes, Etc) pls update!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848
http://pastebin.com/V03vDSCq
http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3184gy/chalice_dungeon_resources_faq/

>Where to go next in BB
http://pastebin.com/kr9TbvKS

>Wikis
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/
http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodborne

>I need help in Chalice Dungeons!
1. Make sure you don't have an Oath rune equipped, your network is set to Worldwide, & your chalice is set to Open
2. Set a password with at least one number & one letter (the more the better)
3. Provide glyph if necessary
4. Due to 1.05, there is no longer a way to Dungeon skip via SRRC
5. More info regarding MP for CD's @ http://pastebin.com/R2ZSmner

>Wheel, Fight Club, and Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/dD7Cv5mx
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>>124395210

Run past them and kill the summoner, any time you see red spiders killing the bell sluts is #1 priority.

There is a level in Ailing Loran with TWO (2) bell Sluts summoning spiders, that is SIX (6) to EIGHT (8) red spiders coming for your ass.
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Hi, I'm BL60 and super twinked out. Offering my services to anyone who needs help with the DLC.

Pass: ilovebbg
Just reply to this post where you need me and I'll be there.
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>4 1/2 hours to fight club

but im bored nooooww
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>play online
>lost connection to network
>play online
>lost connection to network
>play online
>lost connection to network
>play online
>lost connection to network
>play online
>lost connection to network
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>>124395462
That sounds horrific. My Cutter is +6 now though so I guess I AM kinda ready. I mean, why the hell not.
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>>124395627
>Rakuyo
I'll pass
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>>124395879
I have a bunch of weapons, I mostly use beast blood pellet + saw cleaver to instagib most bosses. I just like this weapon for pvp. But okay.
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>your first attempt on a boss is always your best
>die
>can't get a good attempt in another 30 minutes
Every. Fucking. Time.
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Post hunters lads
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>>124396056
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>Fighting Lady Maria with the Chikage and OHB
>Dancing around with her with blood splattering everywhere trying to out unzip her
It feels so anime
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>>124396056
Made him look like me. Nothing but a look of vague awareness.
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>>124396194
>fighting Maria with the BoM
>Mash R1 and stunlock her for 25end
>end with a transform attack
>fire gun as soon as stamina bottoms out
>visceral
>stamina's back before she gets back up
>transform and continue to mash R1
Maria is a joke. She needed a poise buff like Gehrman so she wouldn't just be stunlock: the boss
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>>124396056
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>>124395627
Hi. Would you be willing to help a squishy level 44 through the first area?
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>>124395174
>Post yfw maiden in black is a millenia old doll, and the old one from des is the millenia old hunter
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>>124396560
sure, where do you want me to be summoned.
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>>124396560
I'll join too
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Would starting the DLC in NG+6 be suicide, or a challenge?
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>>124396718
>>124396737
Hunter's Nightmare lamp.
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>>124396056
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>>124396635
>Demons = Great Ones
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>>124396772

Suicide.

Have fun with Laurence.
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>>124396818
That looks fucking awful.
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>>124396774
cool ,i rung and set pass to ilovebbg
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DAILY REMINDER THAT A CORPSE SHOULD BE LEFT WELL ALONE
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>>124396774
searching, be sure to put on the password.
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>>124397043
What if I don't want to?
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>>124396951
looks pretty good imo
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>>124397132
Fun fact, if you don't inspect the corpse right away and stick around for a few moments, you can hear the sound of blood periodically dripping. If you look closely, it drips from her left arm that's dangling just above the floor.
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>>124397043
Shut up Maria
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>>124397265
Yep, I noticed that too. Have more Maria.
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>>124397043
>>124397132
Come get some, those who disturb the peace will be punished
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Arcane build pizza cutter: Fire or Arcane gems? I would assume fire because it's serrated, is that correct?
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>>124396904
I haven't played since August, so have they at least implemented a way to deposit your echoes?

I've got way too many, m8tey, I don't think I can handle losing 10m echoes.
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>>124397540
Just buy a shitton of vials or something.
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>>124397540

Nope. Just spend them on consumables.
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>>124397052
>>124396774
omg meet you by simon
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>>124397540
Just buy stacks of consumables and sell them back later for dosh.
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>>124397265
Thats one of the reasons I don't know why "maria didn't kill herself it was all a ruse" was even considered. She's lying dead in a chair. She refers to herself as a corpse. We know she went apeshit and threw her sword away. Im pretty certain her wrist or neck or something is cut I can't remember which.

I mean I like theories but that one was a bit much for me.
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>>124397524

PVP: bolt
PVE: depend on enemies
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>>124397632
>>124397637
>>124397714

I'm already at capacity for all consumables, even after the update that bumped it up to 500.

I'm royally fucked, m8s.
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>>124397756
Why is bolt better for pvp? Is it like DaS1 where there just isn't any decent source of electric defense?
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>that NioH trailer

No BB2 so this will do.
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>>124397850

Eh, you won't miss those souls. I've lost just as much before.

There usually comes a point in my character's lives where I just don't care about echoes anymore. especially when they're so plentiful in chalice dungeons.
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>>124397940
It looks more like grimdark onimusha than souls game.
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>>124397878

Highest AR from gems than other element
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>>124398024

Thats a good thing too.
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>>124398024
It does look very Onimusha with a bit of a Dark Souls vibe.
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>>124397878
Cainhurst set is insanely popular but has shit lighting defense.
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>>124397972
You're right. I'm gonna have to get used to dying a lot since I'm on NG+6; fuck...
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Just turned bloodmoon and then talked to Eileen
Sitting on 130k echoes so can I go back and spend them and come back or will it fuck up the quest?
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>>124396172
10/10 would eat bagels and do taxes with
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Tips for low level Bloodletter build, mainly co-op?

Also, should I use phys gems or blood?
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The Curse is the Moon Presence.
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>>124398359
The curse is stupid lorefags never shutting up about their crackpot theories
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How the fuck do I beat Loran Camerabeast

This piece of shit will never sit still.
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>>124398359
no
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>>124398323
For mainly coop just go 40/40 vit and blt and get base str for the weapon, that'll put you at about 70 which gives enough range to coop woods and beyond while having more than enough stats for great health and damage, you could cut some points if you want to be lower
Bloodletter doesn't get a circle slot for any of it's versions so unless you want to farm for offshapes just go regular with full 27%'s
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>>124398359
>the moon presence is a beast type
deepest lore
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>>124396056
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>>124397540
>have they at least implemented a way to deposit your echoes?

Of course not.
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Maria is the best boss in this game.
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>>124398926

Not really. She is Keeper of the Old Lords 2. Attack and parry.
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>>124398697
It's a rythm game, don't watch at the screen except for landing the hits.
Unlocked all the time.
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I just finished the DLC (and did the sidequests) and I've seen a lot of people here talking about what exactly the secret of the church is. In the DLC, Maria is supposed to be protecting the secret and she literally blocks the path to hamlet, and Brador is the guy the church didn't want leaking secrets who runs around trying to kill you if you poke your nose into it. Is there any solid explanations of what happened with hamlet, or are we meant to take it as a generic "The church did some fucked up experiments on these people and now they're all slug and fish monsters"?
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We kept the corpse alive!
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>>124398982
Imagine being Gehrman in that nightmare and having to be all like "damn,Kos, you fuckin' fine, all sexy with your tentacles and horrific ayy lmao face. I would totally have sex with you, both me in the nightmare and the real me." when all he really wants to do is fuck Maria in the Cocktower. Like seriously imagine having to be Gehrman and not only sit in that wheelchair while Kos flaunts her disgusting tentacles in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing her stretchmarks and leathery skin, and just sit there, nightmare after nightmare, hour after hour, while she perfected that dance. Not only having to tolerate her monstrous fucking visage but her haughty attitude as everyone in the Hamlet tells her she's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, KOS LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch her broccoli looking alium face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been hunting nothing but a healthy diet of Cleric Beasts and heretics and later Fair Maidens for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Yharnam. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on her dimpled stomach as she sucks it in to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get eyes on the inside because of her "statuesque (for that is what she calls herself)" beauty, the beauty she worked so hard for with Micolash in the previous months. And then the cosmos calls for another misscariage, and you know you could kill every single person in this Hamlet before the Healing church could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Gehrman. You're not going to lose your future doll fucking career over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
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>>124398979
She is. Out of all the bosses, she's got the best music, animations and her whole thematic is just fantastic.
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>>124398697
Same way you beat camerabeast paarl. Only this time he has the HP and damage of NG+5

Dodge into blindspot, shut off your targeting computer and let the force guide you, then repeat when he runs away.

If you have the right stats, bone ash cannon to the face can knock him down pretty quick.
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>>124399020
>>124395627
You weren't kidding when you said "twinked out".

Ludwig was at half HP before I even realized it.
Thanks to both of you! Thanks a bunch!

And that skeleton guy is alive too.
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>>124398926
Yes but too easy unless you're actively putting yourself at a disadvantage
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>>124399139
>she's got the best music

I thought it was the weakest out of all the new DLC songs. Ludwigs is the best.
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>>124399254
Oh shit, this is your first time through? I would've held off a bit mane
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>>124396056

It's, like I want to wear something other than a bell head.
But nothing looks as good as a bell head.
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>>124399254
Yup, be sure to go to Laurence and get the pendant or you won't be able to advance.
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>>124399338
Nah, this is a second PSN account. First time through on this account. I've killed Ludwig before.
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>>124398979
Try fighting her without parries. It's like Parrying Gwyn vs. actually fighting him.
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>>124399283
I fought her at BL 20. Didn't give a fuck when I died to her everytime while learning her moveset 'cause she's that cool.
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>>124399319
this

and he's a better boss imo

>>124399341
Bellhead and constable garb looks great I was fucking with that the other day

>>124399417
Ah ok cool. You want to keep going?
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>>124398817
Beasts are a curse, and a curse is a shackle

>Gehrman shackled to the Hunter's Dream by the Moon Presence

it all adds up!
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>>124398982
The Church most certainly experimented on them but it didn't turn them into fish-people. That was their Kos cult, they've become similar to what they adored.

At least it's what I think.
No there's no direct explanation.
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>>124399319
Man you have shit taste. Ludwig only gets cool when he draws the Moonlight sword.
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>>124399435
>Try fighting her without parries. It's like Parrying Gwyn vs. actually fighting him.
Not even close. You can still stagger her and all of her attacks are so easy to just dodge through. She's a cool boss but in terms of difficulty, she's only a step above the living failures.
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>>124399504
Sure, I'd love to. If you don't mind me exploring around to grab stuff. Let me just go grab the Pendant. Can you ring in front of Yamamura (The guy mumbling about the church blades)
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>>124399504
I put in the decorative hunter pants for the added brass coloring too.
It all just goes really well together, I just need to find the right gloves.
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>>124398982
Byrgenwerth basically went all nanking on the hamlet and the hunters are implicated in it (there's a corpse hung in the shape of the hunter's mark at the first lamp).

The people didn't turn into fishmonsters because of experiments. They were already fishmonsters by the time Byrgenwerth arrived, probably because of the contact with a dead Great One and the parasites in its corpse. Byrgenwerth discovered that and decided to go around experimenting on the villagers to find out more, including boring holes in their skulls while they were still alive to poke around and see if they could find eyes on the insides of their heads.

That's the big secret. They invaded and violated a small fishing village and then hid it from the world, using the research gleaned from it to fuel the experiments in the research ward that eventually lead to the development of the ayys and the choir.
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>>124399583

Nah. I like both his phases. Goes from a grotesque wild beast into something majestic. Its so fun to fight him I never get tired of it.
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>>124398982
Given the curse the guy at the front of the hamlet is saying, it was the church continuing what the scholars of byrgenwerth started.

I actually did some digging on my own, invading so I can inspect the area with enemy placement intact. The biggest thing that hints what the church and byrgenwerth may have been doing is the area where you start encountering the slug women, the enemies there are excavating shells and extracting eggs, and two of the slugs are watching a curse casting enemy. Personal theory is that the various phantasm tools were taken from the village, and during it they tried to catch Kos and accidentally killed her in the process.
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>>124399606
You're retarded, Living Failures is one of the easiest boss of the game, even if you could "easily dodge all her attacks" as you claim she'd still be harder by a mile.
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>>124399670
Cool I'll ring with same pass, hopefully Bea will join us again too
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>>124399119
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Anyone want to help with loran camera beast?

pw bbg
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whats in the new patch?
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>>124399119
Thank you, that answers my question.

>>124399574
>but it didn't turn them into fish-people
I didn't say it was. Sorry, I should have been more clear. The church experimented on people in horrific ways, and Kos washed up on their shore (unrelated to the church) which caused the worshipers to become "enlightened". In all seriousness, I don't see why they're all so eager to become enlightened.

>>124399713
The parasytes specifically being the cause makes a lot of sense, and would explain the skull drilling (that's in the item description from the curse bomb thing you get from that first NPC).
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>>124399757
Isn't it stated in-game somewhere that Kos was already dead when she came ashore?
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>>124399827
>Living Failures is one of the easiest boss of the game
That's what I'm saying. LF are the easiest boss in the DLC. Maria is only a step above that because even if you don't decide to parry her, she can still be stunned by regular attacks.

>even if you could "easily dodge all her attacks" as you claim
You can though. She's the perfect definition of all flash and no substance.
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>>124400049
Yeah the Kos parasite mentions that her carcass washed up
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>>124400049
Given the slug women things are perfectly fine as long as there's puddles to lay in it wouldn't surprise me if Kos stayed near the shore. But yeah, it's dead body did wash up on the beach. Counter to that, there's a tombstone with a sun flower that overlooks the dead body.
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>>124396635
I want this real bad
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>>124399319
desu all the music in bloodborne is really good
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>>124400049
Came ashore.
See those half-sunken ships?
I wonder if they were responsible for her ending up being dead.
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>>124400525

Is the worst soundtrack in the Souls series. Dark Souls 2 has the best music and PVP.
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>>124399562
>implying that's any different than being shackled into serving a corpse on a beach

>>124399606
>You can still stagger her
Not infinitely.

> attacks are so easy to just dodge through
Opinion. I found that they were easy to dodge, but where she combos so much, if you fuck up she hits you a couple times and forces you to heal a lot, depleting your vials. In phase 3 the lingering flames also gave me problems when trying to get around her or create distance. The fight is also very visually stimulating because she's always on screen, and the blood and fire effects are cool, and you have to dodge a lot. Similar to Artorias. It's not the hardest, but it's fun.

>only a step above the living failures
Living Failures is easy as fuck. Cleric Beast is the only boss I find easier. Beat them first try on NG+ with only 4 vials. Kite them around the lumenwood tree. Done.
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>>124400718
>Dark Souls 2 has the best music

you have despicable taste
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>>124400718
gr8 b8 m8 I rate you a 0. Get the fuck out.
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how do I get new weapons ? First playtrough so I don't really know much, just got into the cathedral and all I can buy is KirkHammer
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>>124400319
You're wrong. Fume Knight is the perfect definition of all flash and no substance. Second phase Ludwig is very similar but dodging his attacks is harder than Fume Knight because they're immediate, there's no visual tell, just like Maria.
So, yes, they're not extremely hard but they aren't easy either, especially if you compare them to fucking Living Failures.
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>>124401010
Find more badges.
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>>124400843
Lets be homnest,. there was maybe one or 2 decent tracks in BB's whole ost prior to the DLC. The DLC added a bunch of good ones, but the main game's ost is pretty barren.

It's not much to say that practically any game had a better soundtrack.
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>>124401010

Explore anon. Explore and enjoy the video game you purchased.
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>>124400718
huehuen8
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>>124401010
Weapons unlock for purchase usually when you find the associated badge. Some badges are found throughout the game while others are gained by completing NPC quests.

Weapon variety is extremely limited early on and most of the fun weapons are locked behind 2/3 of the game, or behind dlc bosses.
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>>124395227
>>124395246
HEY RETARDS. FUCKING STOP IT. CLEARLY TWO OF YOU HAVE TAKEN IT UPON YOURSELVES TO MAKE THREADS AND BOTH OF YOU SEEM TO SHARE THE SAME IDEA OF WHEN THE TIME FOR A NEW THREAD IS. STOP FUCKING POSTING BEFORE YOU CHECK THE OLD THREAD FOR SOMEBODY ELSE MAKING IT.
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>>124401265
Those 2 posts were within 10 seconds of each other. In this case, checking beforehand wouldn't help.
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>>124401265

I am sorry. I am a girl between.
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>>124401313
>Those 2 posts were within 10 seconds of each other.
I know
> In this case, checking beforehand wouldn't help.
Actually it would have. If one of those retard had stopped for a moment and refreshed the old thread a couple time before hitting submit, he would have seen that a new thread was already there.
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>Accidentally fall off the top of the Research Hall
>Fall for like six seconds

This is one tall fucking hall.
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>>124401252
>>124401125

Thanks

>>124401181

thanks for the advice great one
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Guys there HAS to be more DLC... They still haven't used that broken shortcut door.
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>>124401491
If you look out over the edge from the failure fight, you can see that you're above the cloudline
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>>124401683

Anon look at all these holes and runes. Every one of them is a different universe/plane. Bloodborne has potential for like 40 sequels and DLCs but we wont get 1. Not a single 1.

The Old Hunters is all we get.
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>>124394817
>>124395121

So turns out that it was the basic Ithyll chalice so the 2nd boss was beadless Hloodletting breast, and I got the root chalice.

So i skipped having to get any Red Jelly from Izs, and the first boss. But I have to do Ailing Loran again for Flowerbud

worth I guess?
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http://strawpoll.me/6175591

>3 HOURS
3 HOURS
>3 HOURS

Reddit stickied the post so lots have seen it and it was posted in a newly added FB group with 11,000 people in that one group, about 15k people total.

We should legitimately tally our wins and losses and post the scoreboard on the refrigerator to make Mom proud.

3 HOURS
>3 HOURS
3 HOURS
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>>124401683
There's still one Amygdala in Yahar'gul Unseen Village that can grab you and kill you with frenzy. Possible DLC Nightmare realm.
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>>124401683
>>124402401
Never happening. Ever.
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>>124402098
oh this is in three hours? hmm looks like its time to lube up.

>>124402401
you wish but it will not happen. If maybe DkS 3 wouldn’t have been announced there would be hope but not like this. I want new stuff as well ;_;
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Maria is a shit boss.
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>Doing Co-op
>Get into world
>Host is fighting vileblood
>Is losing
>I rush is and take on his chikage with my wheel of justice
>He hits me and it does a grand total of maybe 5% of my hp
Was his fucking chikage level 3 at the nightmare frontier or something? He used at least 10 vials and I never had to use one.


ALSO, FELLOW CONFEDERATES, SALUTE!
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What if you could freely exchange gems from one character to another at the end of the game?
Would this fix the boring farming?
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>Beating Loran Camera Beast on the first Try

Feels great, but who thought the Camera for that was alright?
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>>124402623
Why do you say that? She is pretty fun.
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>>124401683
anon that door leads to the door on the bridge where you kill the cleric beast....
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>>124401439
Not within 10 seconds, especially if one or both are using 4chan X. You're a fucking idiot
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>no fromsoft content to speak of
>a half an hour of VR shit

Oh well. At least there was some good weaboo shit.
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>>124402768

If you can parry spam a boss that boss is automatically garbage tier. A good boss should not have an easy cheese alternative. Doesnt matter if its optional it should not have it period. She reminds me of Gwyn.
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Is there a way to farm for excellent cursed phys gems for a hunter at BL 30?
Are the CD the only place to farm them?
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>>124402691

And give a use to all the elemental/physical gems you find on your physical/arcane builds.

I would rather just remove gems, prefer just getting +9 or 10 and that being that. Farming chunks from dark wraith was comfy.
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>>124402959
DLC
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>Ring a Resonance bell
>five seconds later, get summoned
>Ring a Beckoning bell
>No one is ever summoned.

WHY
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>>124402905
>Not within 10 seconds
Yes within ten seconds. If just one of them had hesitated, he could have seen it. 4chan X doesn't mean you can't tap F5.

> You're a fucking idiot
No, that's the morons who can't even handle making new threads.
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>it's been like two days
>still fucking stuck on Ludwig

God fucking dammit how do you dodge his fucking rocket launch horseslam?

I'm BL70 using gemless fucking +7 weapon with absolute shit damage and I really don't want to level up for this faggot, but I keep getting oneshot by his fucking launch slam and rapetrain
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>>124402691
Yeah. Fix it enough anyway.
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Confederate, what are you swinging at? There's nothing there.

There's supposed to be that Hunter there, along with that...head. But I had a case of "A whole lotta nothing".

>Swing Chikage at Living Failures
>52 damage
I admit I have no idea how to use this sword.
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>>124403041
Because most People in this Game rather take Help than giving it.
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>>124403120
So when is he supposed to stop hesitating? Just keep refreshing constantly just in case? You are a fucking idiot friend, not because you didn't think and made a tit of yourself but because you can't own up to that
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>>124396056
i have no imagination
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>>124403123

he has two jumps, one is just a forward jump that you can just roll to the side and avoid or if you are good time it and roll into him and get a free 3-4 hits. The other jump is when he reaches low grade orbit and is in the air forever, when that happen just start sprinting in a straight line (don't go on the stairs) he will land behind you 100%
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>>124403270
>So when is he supposed to stop hesitating?
I usually give it 60 seconds before I hit submit when I'm making the thread.
>You are a fucking idiot friend
No, that's still the OPs and now you too.
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>>124403153

Strange, when I was summoned to help i could see the hunter but not attack him, which is strange but I thought he was coded like an NPC not a mob. Your glitch makes me think otherwise, something fishy is going on here.
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>>124402917
Shit argument is shit.
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>>124403393
Not him but you are a massive self righteous twat
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>>124403447

You are shit.
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Does anyone what chalice items become available to purchase in NG+ after the patch?
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>>124403473
We've been having multiple threads created a the same time multiple times every day for a fucking week.

It's pathetic, and entirely avoidable if people learn how to check for other people making the thread.
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>>124402692
I believe the camera problem was an engine-limitation they simply didn't have the in-house tech to remedy. It appears to be simply a physical object that they've made invisible, so it collides with other objects in the world, like walls and enemies, and gets stuck on them. Dodging under bosses is the biggest source of the problem, since the camera can't follow you through the boss' collision and will simply become trapped on it, ceasing to follow you entirely, until you or it move at such an angle that allows the camera to come free.
Darkbeasts are just the worst example of this because of their shape, but it really happens to virtually every boss in the game. It's also the reason why you can't rotate your camera properly if it's against a wall. It hits the wall and simply stops moving, because the wall blocks the 'object' the camera is bound to from moving in that direction.
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>>124403035
What's the best % that I can at DLC? Better than 20%?
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>entire staircase in research hall is a place of no-invasions and no-coop because for 4 games now From can't take moving elements into account while making invasion and coop spots
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>>124403495
You seem mad. Did Maria fuck you in the ass that much?
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>>124403756
>implying
I've invaded and been invaded often there. Are you honestly just butthurt you can't ring your bell while standing on the stairs? You realize that's because you would spawn into mid air and fall if the stairs were in a different position compared to your world?
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>>124403580
Take the helm then genius, make a fucking thread. Nobody else gives a shit

>actually shitting up both threads with your autistic little outburst

yeah multiple threads are pathetic
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>>124403756
Just go off the staircase for a second then.
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>>124403153
Webm incoming, meanwhile i'm back at the lamp if you want company still
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>>124404056
Ok. I'll ring at the lamp. But it's confirmed I do piddly damage with my weapons, so expect a battle of attrition with these things.
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>Kill the Living Failures as they're summoning the meteors
>they all die and the space effect goes away
>meteor lands right on top of me

FUCKING FAILURES
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What is the best PvE and PvP rapetrain in the game and why is it squid mage
How is it possible to be this fucking majestic
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>>124403823

I wish
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>>124403123
>BL 50
>+6 bowblade with lowest of low gems
>23 vit
>beat him first try on new character
how does that make you feel f.am
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>>124396056
Powder kegs ww@
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>>124403123
if you're having trouble dodging the charge then don't try to dodge it and just eat in in the face. you take bonus damage if you get hit during a dodge so instead of getting one-shot you should still be alive as long as you have decent vit
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>>124403634
You can get 23% gems from winter lanterns at the end of the DLC.
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>>124404178
wew up for Maria? It's fun fighting at reduced damage again
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>>124404848
Sure. I'll make it as anime as possible. Let me stock up and level up a bit first. 100k echoes and I don't want to waste em.
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Thank god those fuckers in the garden are optional.
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>>124403123
Good, scrubs shouldn't play this game, now fuck off and go play the latest Assassin Creed.
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>>124404913
lol yeah no prob. I-I'll try to dress anime

Here's what I was swinging at
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>>124404353
It's so fucking fun, after spending so much time suffering to get your ARC character running, you hit 70 arc and get the kos parasite+good gems and you are majestic as fuck
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>That feel when your Beckoner was RIGHT THERE and now they're gone.

I've never felt so alone.
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>abhorrent beast
>with the logarius wheel
This is a new hell.
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>>124404634
currently in a shitty mood from how that PSX show managed to drain the hype the start generated with all that VR crap. Don't really feel like playing BB today.
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>>124405228
Ha, what? I didn't even see him. That's hilarious.
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>cave in hunter's nightmare
>BSB
>large female beast patient
>3 small males
>mfw they look like a little family
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>>124404423
I feel absolute scrub even though I can managed to go through story bosses with BL20 character piss drunk several times, but this DLC just makes me go full spaghetti sober, I'm dying left and right here
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Aah, Kos-sama...
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>>124405535
all protected by Djura's little pal
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>No Demon Souls 2
>No Demon Souls remastered/remake
>No Old Hunters 2
>No Bloodborne 2

God damn it Sony. You were supposed to save us all.
>>
Can someone help me get Rakuyo? I'm at the Fishing Village lantern. password is alm123
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How can I get vermin without getting summoned.

I want Valtr's sick helmet without killing him, but I don't want to buy PS+ again.
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>>124405228
I'm ringing anon, waiting for you.
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>>124405865

But we got Onimusha Souls Gaidenborne.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph9JtoobICk
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Should I grab 15 arcane or go full quality?
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I'm already on Ng+ but i don't have Blood chuncks on my insight bath?
what the fuck?
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>>124403123
Both the charge and the long jump are telegraphed by the same REALLY loud, drawn-out scream. Dodge left from the charge and for the jump keep sprinting in a single direction for as long as he is on the ceiling (be careful of the stairs because they shorten the horizontal distance you run).
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>>124406010
Cool I rung by lumen garden lamp same pw
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What's the fastest way to chalice dungeon? Farm shit while doing them or go to NG+ and just buy all the shit?
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So am I just shit with that weapon in particular or is Beast Cutter really not that good in pvp? It looks and sounds like pure sex, cheese mobs to death but i am really trying to but its hard to fight anyone decent with this and when its a invasion with 3 guys its too unsafe at all.
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>>124406509
It's way too slow to be useful in pvp. You will either get parried or get staggered before you can even get an attack off.
>>
So what are the skill sided quality weapons?
I know of the Saw Spear, but is there really anything else?
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>>124406371
depends, buying shit is definitely quicker but you might want beast claws and stuff, and it depends how much you want all the areas open

>>124406509
I get some joy out of it but only in conjunction with the gatling gun and/or other enemies
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>>124406282
That went... way better than expected.

And I got a few parries!
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>>124406509

>Ohh, what's that smell? ahh, the sweet semen! Ohh, it sings to me, it's enough to make a woman sick.
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>>124406509
Unfortulately the damage is extremely underwhelming considering how slow and stam hungry it is. The range is really the only thing is has going for it and even then the recovery time almost makes it not worth it.
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>>124406921
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>>124406885
The last one was super sweet

ringing at Hamlet if you want...are we tackling the well if so?
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So should I upgrade the normal version of the whirligig saw to +10 if I'm just a strength build? I don't want to waste a blood rock by mistake.
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>>124406921
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>>124406628

It has actually okay hyperarmor, even on just tricked r1s.

I find it okay at fighting 2 noobs, pretty funny, but useless against 3 man gun or Ludwigs little sword spam.
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>>124406885
I wish they made your character actually look maria in the face during this scene. I'm tired of staring at her hat.
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>>124407062
It gets s rank scaling at +10. Do it
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>>124407041
Sure. I'll be at the first Hamlet lamp. And no, I have no need for Rakuyo.
>>124407135
Same, looks awkward.
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>>124406219
Someone know how to unlock it for the sight bath?
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>>124407176
Alright. I just want to make sure the normal version is the best version to use it on. I've got the lost and uncanny versions as well and I'm still not sure about what gem slots are best.
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WHY ARE THERE NO GO-TO BUILDS FOR ME TO COPY?

I HAVE NO CREATIVITY PLS HELP
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>>124407135

The hunter's only concern is acquiring new hat. Live for the loot. Like about to grab some sick armor when this hoe still alive? Not for long.
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Anyone wanna help a BL45 scrub with a bow kill Logarius?
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>>124407356

Original is radial x2 and triangle, which is perfect for physical weapons. The only slot you should stay away from is waning-- those are only useful for fire/bolt weapons.
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>>124407505
sure set a pass
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what the FUCK is wrong with fucking abortion of fucking kos. Even co-operators cant help me for once.
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>>124407241
rung
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>>124407247
They reset with each playthrough. I think Rom is the cutoff point for chunks.
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>>124407562
pass is bbglog
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>>124407563
He's angry
ANGRY ABOUT HUMANS
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>>124407551
Okay, thank you.
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>>124407435
cainhurst bloodtinge guy with chicaco and evelyn

executiner guy with wheel and gold bighat

or just literall cosplays like henryk with sawcleaver or Maria or whatever
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>>124396056
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>>124407686
whats his main focus of attack? im stacking blunt resistance and shit, but my god. what do i DO.
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>>124407819
>posting this ugly slut with the same picture every time

please
>>
I just got a PS4 and want to buy Bloodborne. Can I just buy it in the US store and then play it on my main account, or will that screw up multiplayer (bad ping or whatever)?
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>>124407831
Non stop aggression with a focus on close range attack

Keep your distance and bait out that whip dance he likes to do in the first phase. Keep close and bait the jumps in the second.

Or git gud at parrying his first phase
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>>124407819
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Sorry bout that bowbro, didnt realize I was that close to the edge.
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>>124408032
His first phase is not an issue to me.
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>>124407684
Welp. Got him to about 20% before that storm thing killed me
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>>124407241
fug did you make it to the next lamp?
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>>124408226
All good. That's the furthest I've managed to get him so far
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>>124408403
Yes, I did. Do you want me to wait there for you?
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>>124407461
People always thought "The Hunt" refereed to killing beasts.

No.

It was the hunt for hats
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>>124407819
Looks like the default DaS2 female with different hair
>>
Jesus lower pthumera is a whole step up in difficulty. What level am i supposed to be for it?
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>>124408226
Goddamn, I fucked that one up hard. Sorry.
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>nothing on ds3
>no demon's for ps4
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>>124408514
wd, sure be one min
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>>124405974
ringing in a minute
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>>124408514
>>124408817
rung
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Posted this before but people were unimaginative af. Lets say your a new hunter and youve juat got your first trick weapon (not just one of the 3 that we can choose at the start) and first pistol/blunderbus. What do you name them?
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>>124408226
Thanks guys!
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>>124409041
yupyup
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>>124409041
Whirligig here, no prob.
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>>124408943
Anon I think I'm gonna hold off on the Hamlet for a while. I'm way too low of a level to do this.

Fuck this captcha system. I needed to solve, like, 8 to post this.
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Anybody with the OH edition ripped that DLC OST yet ?
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>>124408981
Lenny and Carl

>>124409367
OK no problem, it was fun playing anyway
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>>124409404
>implying anybody here bought the JP OH edition
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>>124409460
Thanks for all the help. I got the Bowblade because of it. I need to run some dungeons. My AR currently is 152. Way too low for the DLC.
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>>124408981
The Hunter's Whirligig Boomcleaver Saw Axeclaw
And that'd just be the gun.
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I want Kos to hold Micolash's hand.
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>>124407015
>>124407124
>>124406921
>Church of the Healing Blood
>Huntresses Drunk on Cum to to the Hunter's Nightmare and are dicked and bathed in cum forevermore
>Amelia was a cum-drunk priestess transforming in a spunk hunting beast
>Cum-starved beast
>Beware the old cum
>Bless us with cum
>Cum vials
>Pungent cum cocktail
>Ritual Cum
>Cum gems
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>Loran Darkbeast

I can't...I just can't with this fucker. The camera fucks me over so many times.
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>>124410165
You'll git gud at free aiming eventually

Don't lock on when you get close to him. And never lock on to his head
>>
What's the best gun for parrying? Are they all same? I don't tend to put points in bloodtinge, so damage isn't really a concern.

Probably a really simple question, but I ran around two-handing the memeblade and pretty much ignored firearms my first playthrough.
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>>124408981
You mean we've gotten our very own trick weapon, unlike any shown in the game?

Hook Sabre.
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>>124410304
Pistols are faster than larger firearms and recovery slightly faster, but can easily miss up close.
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>>124403123
You can hear him growl just before he lands on the long jump. I just memorise the time for the short one then is he hasn't come down by then wait for a growl and roll immediately.
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>>124409680
haha yeah git levelled, most people say 70-80 is a good level
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>>124410286
>Don't lock on when you get close to him. And never lock on to his head
I don't but the camera combined with how he just scoots all over the place drives me insane.
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So, i'm building a skill/arcane build but i have no idea which weapons would suit this build, besides the rakuyo.

maybe /bbg/ would be kind enough to drop some recomendations for an old hunter?
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>>124410147

>Bloodborne R63 Edition

Would play.

>Queen of Cainhurst, Annelise, is now the King of Cainhurst, Anthony.
>When you join the Vilebloods and kill a host, you get a blood egg instead of little sperms
>The King needs these in order to mpreg his own child

Fuh-reaky.
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>>124410618
Literally just look at the wiki and grab every weapon with high skl scaling. There's only 2 skill weapons in the game that also deal innate arcane damage and scale it with arc, it shouldn't be difficult to find out which they are.
>>
fighto club when
>>
Fight club when

boy i really suck tonight. Everyone is gonna beat me up ;_;
>>
>>124410775
>>124410818
fitemind
>>
>Helping people with Maria
>getting to abuse Churck Picks charges R2's because shes so confused.

Haha, let us cleanse these foul streets.
>>
>go pvp with Ayy lmao character
>tryhards started to use kinhunter weapons
>they 3 shot me
shit, they found out
>>
>>124410618
See weapons with High skill scaling
and then see the moveset on youtube and select wich one you like
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Need halp pls.
Lvl 73 on Lighthouse Hut Lamp
Pass: bbg
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Send help to BSB story. I ran out of antidote... BL20, pass is bsb3416 ringing at fog door.
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>>124411142
gimme a minute man.
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>>124411261
Hold up+right and occasionally hit R1.
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>>124411142
ringing
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>>124411579
>>124411274
Got it, thanks
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>>124411938
Always trust in FIST
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>>124411261
I'll be right there
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who's in 6cb bitches?, i've fapped too many times waiting for it to begin, now i only get a few shakes and nothing comes out, so i think it's about time.
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>>124411261
you still need help with BSB?
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>>124412179
Please. Keep dying to poison.
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>>124411261
make sure you ring your bell in a valid area
like at the bottom of the steps
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>>124412223
Ringing in a few seconds

you get the antidotes behind the altar?
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>>124412223
pass? i'll come own him, just keep in the back of the room
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Is Beast cutter a suitable replacement for the saw cleaver after a while, Im sick of being bored.
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>>124412391
bsb3416 ringing in a valid area before the gate.
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>>124410147
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>>124412485
opening my shit senpai, just hang on.
unless that anon comes first and you guys don't wanna wait
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>>124412485
I think he might be ringing at the top of the steps or something
I've been ringing for over 5 minutes
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>>124412628
we waiting homie, don't worrie
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>>124412628
We're waiting. The cooperator is patient, strangely enough.
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>>124396056
I know he looks like shit and I was too lazy to figure out how to remove the lipstick or at least make blend in with the rest of him.
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>>124412932
the nerd hunter that gets bullied by the others
>>
One grappel attack. God dammit BSB.
>>
>>124413128

ringing again?
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>>124408282
Protip, stay as far away from the corpse as possible when he does that attack, either entrance or out in the water is safest.
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>>124412796
stay back m88888888888888 why u get grabbed tho
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>>124413167
Yeah as soon as I get to the door.
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>>124413192
>logarius
>corpse
>water
>>
Anyone at the Fight Club already?
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>>124412065
Got here in too now. Lots of graves on the hall already, think it has started
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Is there any point at all to run Hintertomb chalices?
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>>124413071

This is the guy inventing the trick weapons. The hunter Quartermaster.
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>>124413505
Just if you want the Madman's Set.
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>>124408981
arcane scimmy called Lightweaver
flaregun thing called Sunflare
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>>124413505
you get a shitty armor set
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>>124413546
Oh ok. I think he would benefit greatly from different clothes personally
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now that's what i call getting hot and bothered. nice work, flamethrower guy
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>>124413821

I am not the creator, just think that's the look he has. Yeah clothes could be different but the face is inventor style.
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>>124413835
gotta love the call beyond finish, he was mad he was getting styled on, that starved kunt
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So has any testing been done to assess righteous/serrated bonus values and other lesser known weapon features?

I wonder if Church Pick, Holy Moonlight Sword or Bloodletter feature righteous damage of any kind.

>>124413505
If you don't get all the chalices, you have less SRRC targets to co-op with. Also Madman set is great.
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Can someone please help with Loran Darkbeast? I've been at this for three hours and I'm losing my mind. Just walked into the arena and he does his jump attack and instantly kills me.
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So which blood treatment is best to take. I know vaguely that taking one will make the them kill each other right?

Is there a way for peace AND blood treatments?
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/bbg/, I seek your autismal superpowers. I was wanting to dust off one of my old characters to access the DLC (I don't want to play my highest BL characters) and was puzzled to see it's strange stat spread:

BL73

30 Vit
15 End
10 Str
28 Skl
31 Tinge
9 Arc


Can you guys help me salvage this piece of shit or should I just reroll?
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>lumenwood getting all glowy in dark dungeon chambers
This shit is fucking kawaiii.
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Anyone available to help on NG+ orphan? I can't seem to summon people for random coop and when I cancel my bell I don't get my insight back
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>>124414254
>28skill
>31bloodtinge

sounds like a good blt/skll build, m8.

use the chikage, or maybe even the bloodletter
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Are there some webms of Beast Cutter in PvP? I seen a few Boom Hammer ones but no BC yet, is it fun?
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>>124414254
@ 114: 50/15/10/30/50/9
could put the rest into end or str if you want to use the bloodletter before stopping at 120
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>>124414487
It's faster than it looks.

If you're a pure STR build who hates axes then this is the best option.
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>>124414254
you have a couple of options: if you want to be viable for PvP your vit is too low, it needs to be at least 40 really. That leaves you with 16 points. You can either take skill and BT to 37 and have a decent Bowblade build, or pile the rest on BT and use Chikage and Bloodletter just in tricked mode. I would go with even skill and BT as bowblade is good and you can use skill weapons too. You wont be quite as strong as other PvP players, but no true Bowblade build is. And it really is fun
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>>124414196
Never mind. Just got him. Thank fuck.
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>>124414712
oh and arc too I guess for tools
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>>124414856
Congrats anon! Feels good to beat him all by your own doesn't it?
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>>124414856
wd m8
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>>124413821
>>124413932
That's an old picture anyway. I guess maybe the Student Set would look good on him.
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When's that DLC guide coming, next week ?
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>>124414414
>>124414712
>>124414787

Nice, thanks guys.

DLC is fucking awesome so far. Looking forward to trying out the new weapons.
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>>124414973
>>124414993
Thanks and it most certainly does. My heart was pounding the entire time but seeing that Prey Slaughtered come up was such a rush.
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Anyone wanna help me smash Amelia?
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>>124415115
Next Friday.
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>>124415440
dude, wait like 3 minutes and i'll be there. i literally just turned of my console.
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>>124415583
Cool. Ringing at door, pass is bbg2349
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Anyone else stuck at abortion of kos?
He's just so annoying
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>The Constable's pants match the Crowfeather Garb perfectly

Thank you based from
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Anyone want to give me a hand with Living Failures? Password is rom123
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>>124415818
Where do you want me to ring my bell?
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>>124415736
Me. I can get him to like 15% but I inevitably die
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>>124415662
ringing
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>Nightmares bring endless possibilities for DLCs
>Only make one DLC
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>>124415903
>>124415903
I just want to be a pretty tentacle flower , but he's stronger than the defiled watchdog.
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>>124415893
At the Research Hall lamp, thanks.
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I already like this game.

I put in an awful lot of hours into Dark Souls (the first one) and I kind of skipped II because I didn't have to money.

I'm playing it the same way I played Dark Souls, I already know how to put enemied away and such but I'm just wondering, is the volume of enemies really high throughout the game?

I'm going through the first street and everyone is banded together really tightly .
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>>124415936
Same. On stairs/fog wall.
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>>124416026
Same here. My arc character is really shit so it takes me like 10 minutes to wear him down only to die to some crazy hitbox
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>>124416026
no, he isn't.
i beat him on my 4th try, but i'm still stuck on fucking hot doge

>wow
>suck lava
>much hot
>1 hit
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>>124416042
Ok rang my bell
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>>124416141
Okay, same.
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>>124415976
At some point the idea of 'lets go to another nightmare to kill another malevolent great one' would get old, and you can only recycle existing game assets so many times before you've simply run out of interesting yharnam-themed environments to use.

Plus, BB has always been narrative driven and you can't exactly make an infinite number of nightmare related side-stories that are relevant to the main game while still being interesting stories in their own right.

I would've loved another optional side area like the nightmare frontier to explore, but I'm also glad they kept the content of the dlc tight and focused.
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Thinking of trying to speed run to the bloodletter (lvl 45 max), the only way to get it is from the key in fishing hamlet right? Meaning I would need to kill 3 bosses? Anyone tried it? I'm sure someone with a twink has managed to pull it off.

Would tonitrus be the best for doing this?
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>>124416026
It's worth it in the end, anon
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>>124416108
I have an arcance character ,too
The Issue is just his insane resistance to everything.
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>>124416047
that's the highest concentration of enemies in the game

now get outta the general and play blind
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>>124410524
Beat this cockmiser for the first time last night with the blades of mercy. I was raging harder than I've ever raged before.

Nothing's better than dodging swipes from offscreen then whiffing a bunch of attacks because my weapon is two inches long and his leg doesn't exist in the third dimension. OVER AND OVER
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>>124415936
Thanks.
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>>124416047
They throw a big horde at you really early basically as an extended combat tutorial. That section is basically meant to wall new players until they either master the basics of combat and blow through the large encounter, or until they figure out their own method of splitting up and handling large groups of mobs. You either git gud enough to take them all on at once, figure out a method of splitting or dividing the enemies and take them out as small groups, or figure out a stealthy way to pick them off one by one. You already have all of the tools necessary to do any of these methods, and whichever one you figure out will likely set the pace for your entire playthrough. The devs are clearly very aware of those different sorts of playstyles and player tendencies, and while you'll never face another enemy horde that's as large as that one, you'll find that virtually every encounter in the game is set up in such a way that all 3 are an option.
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>>124416131
Hot dog is so easy compared to the orphan. I think I've only died to the defiled dog a total of two times whereas I've never beaten orphan
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>>124416571
anytime m8.
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>>124416447
>loran darkbeast
>BoM
bruh
Like, how
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>>124416302
Do you want to join forces?
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>>124415818
you still need help m8?
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>>124414487
It's pretty fun, takes some time to get used to, the whip mode has pretty long recovery time
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Why does the host always insist on chasing after the invader after he runs into a group of enemies. We're here to run the boss you retard.
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>>124416026
Set a password, comrade.
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>>124416795
>>124416795
Why not?
Gonna set the pw to abortion
Lets fuck dis guy 2 times this night(It's night for me at least)
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>Host summons mensis dickhead damian for ebbi
>he sits back and spams black eye and a call beyond at her face
Some of these summons are more clever than I thought
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>>124416141
Again?
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>>124416447
With the BoM I eventually had to unlearn proper darkbeast tactics and instead learn to just stand in front of his head, dodge combo in its entirety and purely via iframes, and then punish by smacking his head with one or 2 R2s.

The only times it's ever safe or effective to go after the legs with a BoM is when he does his AoE explosion. Once you get the timing down, you can circle to his back during the startup, roll through it and then go to town on his back legs for half a stamina bar.

What I found was that the fight was a nightmare until you managed to break his lighting the first time. Once you have him running like a bitch you can chase him into the back wall of the room and continuously pound on his head for essentially the rest of the fight.
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>>124417007
Sweet you ring first. I have issues summoning cooperators anyway
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>>124416989
>>124416989
U can join, too
The passwords gonna be abortion

I'M GONNA BE A PRETTY TENTACLE BY THE MORNING
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>>124417162
Ringing.
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>>124416131
Took me a bunch of practice before I could get him. Started by trying to take out all his legs, then by focusing one leg so he wouldn't rage mode, never could get him below half. Finally ended up winning by slashing his head bit by bit until it broke, then took out his legs one by one. You seem to do bonus damage if you've crippled his head.

Don't know if you need any advice, but keep at it.
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>yfw every rakyo use you've met has has insane phantom range and lag

im not sure if im supposed to hate the player or the weapon
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Can someone post the DLC edition of the "every thread of /bbg/" comic?
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bloodtinge builds are the most fun and interesting in the game

prove me wrong
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>>124417483
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>>124417007
>>124417162

I'm not sure if my connection is fucked up or not. i haven't been able to summon or get summoned for like an hour now
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>>124416131
If hotdog isnt one of the easiest bosses for you, you're fighting him wrong
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>>124417581
Many thanks.
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>>124417627
Is your region set to local or worldwide?
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no des remake?
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>>124416920
I think they're either dumb or are just trying to humor the invader. In all my time invading on my twink, the smartest hosts were the ones that realized you could just run past everything and reach the fog door without me being able to stop them.
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Just finished farming gems, cannot be arsed to get the best just for an extra 5~ AR.

tell me bbg, yay or nay?
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Best place to farm poison daggers at around BL30?
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>just watched psx

So i see that the PS4 will remain the Bloodborne machine for the foreseeable future.

Is sony even trying with exclusives anymore?
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>>124417704
Worldwide. I don't get the tooltips that let me know my bell is searching and I never connect
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Who else is in the fight club?

>one bloodtinge guy and one arcane girl (I think) wreck me
>everyone else dying in 3 hits and not even touching me

I think I can tell who the redditors are :^)
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>>124416726
Channeled pure anger and ascended to godhood. My entire thigh is a bruise from punching it.

>>124417087
My strategy ended up being me running at him, rolling through the swipes, then doing a rolling slash at his back legs. If he charged his aoe, I'd go back in and get another hit or two before dodging, otherwise I'd make space to bait another swipe.

With you on the lightning break. Pretty sure I only won because I lucked out and got him to collapse again while he tried to recharge his lightning.

As frustrating as they can make some bosses, I still fucking love the BoM, even over the DLC weapons.
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>>124417581
the ones after the SRRC look like there was much less effort put in, 2bh
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>>124417932
Well it would be nice if we could actually see your gems. I think that would be helpful
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>>124417932
>arcane build for MLGS

Nay.
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>>124417985
You guys should just go without me. This probably isn't going to work
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>>124417985
Now that you mention it, mine isn't constantly reminding me that I'm looking for a host, either.
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>>124418059
>punching yourself
Its better than biting yourself or breaking your controller, but damn you need to chill
I always toss the burial blade on my BoM builds, as they fit together thematically, and each makes up for the other's weaknesses
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Who else here is cruel fate master race?
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>>124417985
I closed BB and reopened the application and it seems to have helped with 30m wait times of nothing, but that might just be coincidence.
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>>124418039
I was fighting for a bit. I fought one guy with a bolt saif who 3 shotted me but I got him back. And someone with a chikage. I couldn't connect to anyone else so I left
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>>124417514
pure strength:
>Kirkhammer
>Hunter's Axe
>Whirligig Saw
>Beastcutter
>Amydgalan Arm
>Boom Hammer
pure skill:
>BoM
>Burial Blade
>Rakuyo
>Church Pick
>Cane

bloodtinge:
>Riflespear
>Reiterpallasch
>Chikage
>Bowblade
>Bloodletter

This DLC was a godsend, pretty much every build has around 5 unique weapons to use on their build, and at least 2 that are really unique and fun.
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I'm late with the memes, what is a "quality" build?
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>>124418404

Reiterpallasch and Rifle Spear are more like SKL weapons with small BLT requirements.
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>>124418404
>pure skill
>burial blade
Well memed my friend
:^)
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>>124418323
>12 base end

into the trash
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How hard is the last chalice of loran and pthumeru? The others have been easier than expected, although I'm over leveled to 100
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>>124418464
Str + Dex/Skl
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>>124418464
A build that levels both strength and skill to take advantage of weapons with good scaling in both
Named after an upgrade path in DeS that made the weapon scale equally well with both
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>>124418464
Quality isn't a meme.
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>>124418464
>quality
>meme
didn't you play DeS brother man?
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>>124418329
I've closed the app and restarted my console and it hasn't helped. This happened to me a week ago too. I thought they fixed this crap
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>>124417280
>>124417280
Waiting for u guise, Set to worldwide with abortion as password
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>>124418464
That's not a meme you fucking newfag
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>>124418635

Loran and Pthumeru are easy. The only bosses that might give you a hard time are the Loran Darkbeast and the Bloodletting Beast.
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>>124418464
did you fail english?
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>>124418635
The only chalice boss that is super annoying is the descendant.

>>124418694
technically, it is
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>>124418715
>>124418696
Might have to count me out cuz of what I mentioned above
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>>124418715
Been jingling my jangler a while now. Are you sure you spelled "abortion" correctly?
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>>124418404
>Burial Blade
>Church Pick
both of these are best for skl quality
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>>124418716
Its an actual meme, not the 4chan shitposter definition of meme
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>>124418615
Whats so bad about that?
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Has anyone translated the cleric beast & Amelia boss fight lyrics?
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>>124418313
Yeah it got pretty bad. Should have taken a break, but I didn't want to lose the flow. I don't think anything but darkbeast and a couple souls bosses have gotten me like that.
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>>124418313
But pulling out the Burial Blade to beat a boss on a BoM build defeats the purpose of having a BoM build.

You use the BoM because you want to be a crazy dagger-wielder badass taking out enormous beasts with fast and precise attacks and a relentless offense. There are few things in this game more satisfying than catching a boss during a stun or a long recovery and emptying 25 end worth of stamina into them with your crazy dual-dagger slashyslashy as their HP bar melts away. It takes so much work getting a BoM build going but once you do it's totally worth it. By far the most satisfying playstyle in the game. If you just toss them to the side whenever you find something you can't R1mash to death, then what's the point?
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>>124418464
Have you ever played a souls game in your life?
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>>124418885
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DD_NCM_RJs
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>>124419023
Staggering the One Reborn then unloading a full stamina bar of beast pellet r1 spam is the most satisfying shit
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>>124419023
BoM and Burial Blade belong together
Stop trying to tear my dreams apart
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>>124419023
no it doesn't
using the BoM on enemies that are suseptible to its play style and using the BB on enemies suseptible to that play style is called not being an autist
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>Lost connection, returning to the menu

Anyone else get this just now? Update perhaps?
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>>124416279
Still looking for an answer, don't know how the fuck to go about it
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>>124419008
Oh my hair
Where it grows is all over
And so the night
And so the blood

And when my fangs
Are now too long
I fear corruption
And so the blood

But the blood isn't all bad
I like the color red
It's like my soul
And so as a beast
I lay my head
Among the blood

Beast blood party
Beast blood party (repeat)
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>>124418878
I got through to the other guy, you wanna give it another shot?
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>>124419008
something something SANGUINE x 20
>>
Good build?
http://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/9078
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>>124418059
How mad do you get at mobas?

I get frustrated in this game but never mad, because I'm fighting a bot essentially.
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>>124419423
Don't press "okay" autist. You will invade
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>>124419183
I'
d already beaten ludwig on my BoM build before reaching TOB, so I equiped the guidance run and literally just facetanked him to death. He couldn't out-damage the rally I was getting back from R1 mashing.

God, I love the BoM. Using the untricked version to fight Maria was a blast.
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>>124419517
Yes you would need to kill 3 bosses
Tonitrus would be good for only the Living Failures

Get a saw weapon and a beast pellet/fire paper for Rape Horse. And git gud at parrying Lady Maria. Doesn't matter what you use for her as long as it does good visceral damage
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>>124418039
what's her name, anon?
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>>124419620
made a suggestion

http://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/9234
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Thanks for the help , he's finally dead.
I'll be helping all day tommorow at this asshole.
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>>124419942
No worries. Kind of embarrasing how many backstabs and viscerals we fucked up, though.
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>>124419715
Thanks bully anon. I guess I was just overreacting
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>>124419763

I think there were two arcane users, one boy one girl. Girl is Lumina I think. I didn't catch the arcane guy again.
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>>124419939
>mad cus bad
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So, the guy in the cell is just there to be killed?
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Rate my build
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>central yharnam
>new game
>killing the fags round the burning beast
>one shouts DEATH TO THE MINISTER
>not wearing any church garb, just the starting shit
Uwotm8
>>
GET IN HERE FAGS

6cb7ieyy
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>>124419614
I got my bell working on my skill character but my arc character seems to be fucked
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>>124420297
I want to cum on this hunter
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Anyone wanna help an Alfred clone down logarius? BL24 for early coop.
Ringing outside fog door pass is wheel
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>>124418039
so far I've gotten a terrible bow blade user
a bom user who legit had 500~ health
and a saw spear user
and an inferior rakuyo user
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>>124420042
>>124420042
I like the fact, that we managed to beat him on our first try.
Jesus christ I tried him all day long.
>>
How early into a new game can I enter the old hunters dream to just grab the new weapons and use them in the base game?
>>
>make str/arc build
>fire whirligig saw
>wear tons of beasthood armor
>pop blood pellet
>stagger easily
>l2

This thing, is so fucking overpowered for bosses.
>>
>Gatling Gun working this well in the FC

Oh god, it's glorious!
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>>124420412
>the dash animation
every time man
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>>124419008
Fuck the Healing Church coming straight from the Unseen
A young hoonter got it bad cause I'm addled
And not the other kin so church think
they have the authority to kill a minority
Fuck that shit, cause I ain't the one
for a punk motherfucker with a sword and a gun
to be beating on, and thrown in gaol
We can go toe to toe in the middle of a cell
Fucking with me cause I'm a hoonter
with a little bit of echoes and a paper
Searching my lantern, looking for the bllod
Thinking every hoonter is selling narcotics
You'd rather see, me in the pen
than me and Laurence rolling in a carriage
Beat a giant out of shape
and when I'm finished, bring the yellow backbone
To tape off the scene of the slaughter
Still getting swoll off bread and water
I don't know if they Vilebloods or what
Search a hoonter down, and grabbing his bastards
And on the other hand, without a gun they can't get none
But don't let it be a parry one
Cause they'll slam ya down to the visceral
Queen Killer will swarm
on ANY motherfucker in a red uniform
Just cause I'm from, the Workshop
Punk church are afraid of me!
HUH, a young hoonter on the warpath
And when I'm finished, it's gonna be a bloodbath
of beast, dying in Yarnham
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>>124420538
after defeating vicar amelia.
>>
>>124420446
Be there in a bit
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>>124420249
>mad

so sensitive
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>>124416026
You can cheese him with ACB. Stand just outside his aggro range and fire ACB at him over and over.
>>
Are cauliflower builds worth it if you don't intend on CRF spelunking for years?
Can you get decent arcane gems without chalices? I don't seem to have picked up anything decent through the main game? I have one +18% gem and I'm pretty sure it was a one-off anyway.
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>>124420296
put that end down
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>>124420663
>and thrown in gaol
kekkin hard m8
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>>124420557
>fire whirligig
>BBP

Pick one.
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First run player here.

What the fuck is with the difficulty spike at Nightmare of Mensis? I literally can't even make it to the door without being destroyed by those beasts, and if I get past them and the flashing light of fuck you have chip damage the giants just before the door destroy me every single time.

I've gone through everything else except for the DLC where I'm stuck at Ludwig and I still can't even touch the entrance to this god damn place.
>>
>>124420885
But how else will I hold L2 for upwards of 10 seconds?
>>
>le zany dashing + r1 spam

Stop posting these shitty kinmode webms. They're all the same.
>>
>>124420959
Stack frenzy resistance and run to the door.
>>
Am I an asshole if I immediately silencing blank out of a chalice dungeon if the host hasn't gotten the lever?
>>
>>124420736
Your amazing ty.
I like your characters looks too
>>
>>124421139
Sure I've got a stack of L2s for you

>dashing and R1 spam
>Not all webbums
>>
>>124420868
>>124420868
But wouldn't I run out of bullets after a certain time?
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>>124420206
yes that kunt keeps spamming gloves
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>>124421054
you wont need to, you can get 1,200+ damage off with no more than 20 end
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>>124420959
put on the hunter armor it has good frenzy resist, more then enough to run across the bridge on the left and your safe, or just use the object to not get fucked by the light but really you can just run across the bridge on the left and the beasts will probaby die or take a lot of damage before they get to you
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>>124420959
Just run past the giants and through the door. After you deal with the the mind spear firing jerk, you can go back and kill them if you want. You can parry and backstab them.

It's the sameway at Cainhurst Castle. The things guarding the outside are much tougher than anything inside. Sometimes you are just suppose to run.
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>>124421296
Get Formless Oedon runes and use blood bullets before every cast. IDK if you can 100-0 him, but you can certainly deal a lot of damage.
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>>124421220
Yes.
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>>124421237
I was worried there when he tried to buff. Sometimes the backstab doesn't register, and I was stuck between him and a wall
Happy hunting
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how do you pvp in this game? Besides fishing for parries?
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>unzip the Chikage and 2 shot someone who has been killing me
>psh, nothing personnel kid

I should use this more than the bow but the bow is more fun.
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>>124421665
Spam R1.
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>>124421716
>and 2 shot someone
How is that fun at all?
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>>124421875
You don't have to be so sour, you'll get him next time.
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Anybody got tips for chunk farming?
I wanna try a lot of weapons , so I'll need like a million chunks.
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>>124421665
If you arent baiting, nobody will answer your question seriously.
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>>124421665
try and hurt the opponent
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Ludwig is absolutely destroying my ass on NG+2.

What can I do? I've got 50 Vitality and an HP+10% rune but this nigga STILL has like 3 attacks which can 1-shot me, and an additional 3 combo's that can do the same. Jezus.
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>>124421969
Wasn't me. I don't participate in /bbg/ crutch fight clubs.
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>>124421875
>be pveing
>nigga invades
>one shot him with a buffed evelyn
how is that not fun?
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>>124421969

Eh hehe pussi would never come to a fight club. Unless it had no gems. And only if it's 2 weeks from now. On a wednesday.

To Alfred

>die church scum

That is all
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>>124422221
Still trying to finish PvE first?
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So did anything at all come out of PSX today?
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>>124422141
I don't really get why people play past NG. Is it really that much more fun than starting a new character? It seems like you'd have to overlevel into some generic build with inflated stats just to survive.
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>>124422030
Farm gems, you'll get the chunks for free.
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is 40VIT
25/25 SKL/STR
30ARC

good for a MLGS build?
wanted to cap at BL89, so help me out pls.
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im not really enjoying the pvp in this game all that much

most fights are over in 5 seconds because gems are op and viscerals

is it any different at level 120-150 because of the higher defense from leveling (am at 98)? kind of concidering leveling up to that range if it is. annoying how much from raped the pvp in this game for no reason at all
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>>124422326
new FFVII clip
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>>124422391
You only need arc for R2 and L2, everything else is qual
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>>124422326
Yakuza 5&0 and Ace Combat 7
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>>124422467
Game doesn't seem like it was intended for much online play. I think /bbg/ fight clubs are the exception and not the rule by exploiting community chalices.
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>>124422580
so if i dont wanna be a space wizard i can just hit minimum arc @ 14? or is it worth going to 30?
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>>124422350
I usually do it because of the increased soul gain for stuff. That and you can play the whole game with the build you set out to make in the first place. I've never bothered going past NG+ in a souls game before though.
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>>124422467
PvP in this game is based around fast heals and burst damage. The point is to murder your opponent so fast he can't heal
Fight clubs with no healing seem to go against that design
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>>124422391
you'd get much better damage if you used less arc and put those points elsewhere

>>124422467
it will not change by going higher
people already run high vit at BL100ish, all moving up to 120-150 will do is give them more damage and a miniscule defense increase
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>>124422467

Do some non meta honor combat invasions. Fights last 20 blood vials long. There is nothing with more hp than a desperate host.
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>>124422578
>>124422624
I guess that's something
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>>124422467
Higher defense is trivial. If people build properly, you should actually die faster at 120 because you can easily get 50 vit by 98, after which point you should invest in more damage stats for many builds (e.g. to get a full 25/50 split).
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>>124421220
yup. exploring the dungeon with the host is the best part IMO
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>>124422720
so, is minimum arc req better, and then putting it like 50vit or 30str?
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>>124419008
now this is a tale all about how
my dream got twisted upside down
and i'd like to take a kosmic year just sit right there
i'll tell how i became a hunter in this great nightmare

in a unseen village, born and raised
in the house is where i spent most of my nights
reading, playing and chillin all cool
and looking out the window, to the outside of the school
when a couple of schollars, who were up to no good
started kidnapping people in my neighberhood
i got a itty bitty bite and my mom got scared, and said
"i'm taking you to yosefka to take care of that wound"

i begged and pleaded, day after day
but she put on my cloak, and sent on my way
she left me at the door, ran away for good
after walking in and seing a dude in a wheelchair i though, might aswell go for it

bottom class, you this is bad
blood transfusions outta my ass
is this what people in yharnam live like?
this might be allright

but wait, they're beast, murderes and all that
is this the type of place they'd send this poor guy
i'll see after my sleep
oh shit, what are these ghoullish creatures

the doors to the clinic were open and i got out
there was a wolf eating a dude who looked like he was just hanging about
i ain't trying to get eaten yet
i just healed
i tried to run, but instead, founf myself dead.

i woke up outside a house, in what looked like a dream,
some dude in a wheelchair telling me i gotta kill
some cute looking doll looking back at me,
so i said, hay cutie, what you doin here

i got outta there at around 7 or 8
and yelled to the doll "you honnie, kiss ya latter"
i looked at my kindgdom and i was finally there
a new hunter in yharnam, waiting to end the nightmare
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>trying to kill Simon at BL30
pain in the fucking ass
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>>124422141
Don't get hit, get more Vit runes, or get more defence.

>>124422234
Because it's over before it even started.

>>124422292
Huh?

>>124422350
You can buy more chalice materials in NG+, I think, and you can get gherman's gear without exploiting the MP.

I think people also use to go past NG+ to get more blood rocks too. There really isn't any point to going past the first NG+ now since they are now farmable.

>>124422467
People try to claim levelling to 150 makes you last longer because of higher defences, but they just use those levels to dump more points into their damage stats anyway, making it a moot point. At that level you will just run into more homogenized PvP because everyone can use the best of everything.

>>124422698
Exactly. That's also why you can parry healing.

FC should be one of two things:
>No gems, no healing
-or-
>all gems allowed, healing allowed as long as you don't leave the arena
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>>124422350

I had no choice mate. I went through the game twice to get all the trophies, which means I'm now stuck on NG+2 for the DLC.

I'm level 125 with a +10 weapon that has three +20% attack gems but I'm still getting destroyed.
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>>124422825
yeah
I'd go for 46 vit and whatever's left over into STR
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>shield shuts down the rakuyo/bom
lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRY8tFFxNZI
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>>124422467
It doesn't help. The insanely high damage is just the nature of the game. It wasn't designed with pvp balance in mind at all, and the obscenely high damage output to low health ratio is both to help invaders turn the tide of ganksquads in 1 or 2 decisive moves, balance out the ease and availability of healing and respond to complaints that DaS2's pvp was too slow-paced and dragged out due to the durability to damage ratio being way in the other direction.

They overcompensated and were stuck with that kind of paradigm because they chose a horrible invasion system and were unwilling to introduce effective countermeasures to healspam.
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>>124423032
cool, thanks for the tip senpai
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>>124422969
>I agree with luci on something
Welp, time to kill myself
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>>124422969

>get more defence

literally how
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>>124422683
The L2s and R2s can be powerful, but the projectile from the R2 isn't too powerful by itself. Bear in mind the rest of the move set other than the tricked R2 and L2 is qual: any arc scaling will be for those two moves only, and Arc isn't really powerful until you hit 50. This is with 42 arc.

So I would say just go qual
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>>124423075
did he even try to use his shield? at all?
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FUCKING SIMON'S BOWSHITTYBLADE, fuckers just hang back in the FC and spam

how to counter the shitters
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>>124423075
It does, though. That guy got fucked because he was playing bad, leaving himself open instead of guarding (the whole point behind using that setup) and playing aggressively, poorly so, with a turtle setup. If he just wanted to hide behind the shield and only punish your aggression, you'd have had no options.
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>>124422969
>
FC should be one of two things:
>No gems, no healing
-or-
>all gems allowed, healing allowed as long as you don't leave the arena


Why is this 6cb fight club gems + no healing then?
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>>124423268

Walk sideways
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>>124420663
>>124419008
>>124422834
top kekkin
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>>124423337
don't fucking listen to lucy
he doesn't even pvp
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>>124423220
yes
you can see him block a couple of attacks, but he got punished whenever it dropped and I swapped to the blunderbuss and started pressuring it so he tried to keep it down and I killed him
>>124423307
come fight me with the same setup and see how you fare against blunderbuss/beast roar pressure brah
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I can't Ludwig

I just can't

I want to kill myself
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>>124423204
fuck man, that sucks. i wanted to be good with tricked and untricked mode, hence the 30arc, but i want to cap at BL89 cause fuck anything higher seems over leveled.
I just want to use the fucking MLGS and it be as strong as any other min/maxd weapon at BL89. life is suffering.
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>>124423423
Summon someone.
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>>124423337
I'm quite happy with the FC rules. I don't like long, dragged-out fights.
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>>124423419
>I swapped to the blunderbuss and started pressuring it so he tried to keep it down
Does the blunderbuss counter shields or something? I don't get it.
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>>124423456
it will be good with both modes, just your tricked R2 and L2 won't be good
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>>124423523
yes, it causes massive poise damage and eats stamina like a motherfucker
so does beast roar
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>>124423523
Blunderbuss eats their stamina away fast if they're blocking, and staggers them if they're not
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>>124423337
Healing doesn't work because host will always heal for more than a phantom. It's fundamentally unfair, so doesn't work for people looking for fair 1v1 PvP.

Some people like high damage, there are no-gem FC's elsewhere if you like that stuff.
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>>124422629
>>124422629

i agree, but they didnt need to further ruin it. i think the pvp woulda been at least good if there were no gems and there was atleast some way of pvp 1v1 without reduced hp. when i first reached the nightmare frontier i had a few really fun fights when i reached the nightmare frontier against some guy who clearly had some shitty non chalice gems like me and it was fun since we didnt one shot eachother

>>124422969

ok, i'll just stay at 98 i guess. i think a no-gems fight club woulda been really cool
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>>124423496
Yeah this. Quick and dirty just works better. Healing is obnoxious and is just a way for blatantly weaker players to draw out a fight they have no hope of winning. It doesn't change the eventual outcome, it just makes it take longer than it needs to.

If BB fights take more than 5 hits to end, they wear out their welcome real fast. Defensive options are so damn powerful in this game that you really, really don't want to spend 5 minutes chasing someones dodges constantly as you slowly whittle down their HP pool. A few smart, technically competent or clever baits and exchanges is more than enough. Any more than that and pvp turns into an extended game of tennis.
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>>124423481

No, if I summon someone then the suicidal feeling will never go away, it will rot in me forever

I need to kill this shitter myself

Phase 1 isn't even that bad any more, I can get it like 25% of the time. But as soon as he pulls out that fuckin sword I just spill my spaghetti.
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>>124423667
>>124423591
So if their guard a blunderbuss shot it kills their stamina? I never knew that, I'll have to pick one up on my BoM build.

Does any other firearm do the same, like the piercing rifle or ludwigs? Or is it pretty much exclusive to the blunderbuss?
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>>124423916
They really should allow you to invade on fair terms if you use a password
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>>124424059
ludwigs works too, might even be better but the recovery on ludwigs is ass, haven't tried with the piercing rifle
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>>124397720
Her power up involve her stabbing herself and her current motivation involve her taking care of the patients and guarding the fishing Hamlet. She can't have off herself when there's so much at stake, it's not like Gehrman where you know he was cracking on the inside by the weight of an eternal dream
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>>124396056
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are there more people than usual in the fc tonight?
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>All these ayy lmaos and Bloodletters exclusively using L2 with weapons that have insane potential in their movesets.

Thanks for the viscerals, I guess.

I blame the webms you guys make
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>>124424059
Dunno about ludwigs, but riflespear is a beast against shield babbies
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>>124424272
reddit and fb were invited
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>>124424272
this is my first one, so maybe
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>>124424272
There are a lot of unfamiliar faces today
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Are the silver things on the front of yharnam hunters garb meant to be bullets or what?
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>>124422467
stack vit to like 80 and go to 150 with all hp runes. boom, easy.
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Why does the Sawcleaver feel so fucking boring?

I'm using it, just upgraded it to +4 and have some gems in it.

I'm just about to go open up the way to Amelia after doing BSB.

Should I just abandon it and go back to Hunters Axe (used this first playthrough) or Ludwigs? Maybe even Kirkhammer although I feel like Kirkhammer has a stupid sweet spot and feels weak as heck.

Its just so bland. I literally get in close, and spam R1 until the enemy is dead or I'm out of stamina and it feels so mindless.

Current build is: 15 vit, 13 end, 25 str, and 13 dex.

Last playthrough I was completely blind, used the Hunters Axe tricked charged R2 almost exclusively, and basically only did Darkbeast Paarl and Witches as optional content, so Mergo was the last boss. I'm going in with more knowledge now and trying to do most things.

Any weapons I should try?
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>>124424417
I think they're supposed to be chimes. I know that the Crowfeather garb and Gascoigne's Garb both have bells attached to them. It's probably a religious thing.
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>>124424272
Has the FC started?
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>>124423201
Runes, levels, or better/more-appropriate armour.

>>124423136
Welcome to being right.

>>124423337
Because /bbg/ hates when you take away their crutches. A lot of them don't have the skill to compete in a prolonged match that results from either no gems or from healing in a gem-FC. Any causal can win in a sudden death match.

>>124423407
Not here, I don't. And no, I don't PvP nearly as much in BB as I did in DaS.

>>124423456
The meta closest to that level is 98 so go to that at least. It will give you a few more levels to play with.

>>124423496
With out healing, fights are over in gem fight clubs in 2 to 3 hits. Most healing fights only last around 2 minutes.

>>124423935
If you want to level up, the 120 meta is pretty good. The 150 meta is just laughable.

>>124423958
Translation:
>I want to be able to spam dash R1 and hopefully land 2 before they do. I'm also a scrub don't know how to parry/interrupt heals so I will call them unwelcome/cheap/waste-of-time/etc.

>>124424537
The Axe has a much better moveset and is way more fun to use. The Cleaver is OP because of seration and L1 spam, but it is boring as hell. The only time I recommend the saw weapons in on level 4 playthroughs.
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>>124424372
>>124424376
>>124424413
these are good tidings
>>
>>124424743
6pm est
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>madman's garb has a broken noose around it
WHAT DOES IT MEAN
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goddammit this lumina keeps chasing me around with those fucking skulls
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>>124424752
>I have to reply to EVERYONE
>people need MY advice
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>>124424537
kirk hammer is amazing with the aoe it i has. And it also has the most moves in the game (i think).
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>>124424946
running out of things to bitch about, eh kid?
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Wew lads

Good fights in the FC, sorry if I lag kill anyone because it's definitely happened to me so it could be my connection.

>inb4 picture of screen

I'm not going to get a USB or make a Facebook to show one screenshot and my ps4 and computer have to share an hdmi.
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>>124396056
>>
If your gems suck dick join the gemless fight club

r97nxvx8
>>
How's Damian of Mensis in the Rom fight?
... how's Henryk?
>>
>>124424946
Well, the more replies the better the chance he'll get something right in the end.
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>>124425139

>2592x1944

I've made a huge mistake
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>>124424537
Kirkhammer doesn't have a sweetspot, it just has an AoE. If your attack does baby damage, it's because you missed, but caught them with the shockwave. It always does full damage if you hit with it.
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>>124396056
>>
>that one guy who spams the gatling gun

Seriously what do you so against it? Even the fastest r1 can't get her quick enough without taking damage first?
I will try side step instead but fuck worse than rosemarinus
>>
Anyone wanna fight Abhorrent in ailing Loran? Pass is bbg ringing by fog
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>>124425181
thanks, I'm gonna go fuck things up with my bolt saif
what time does it end?
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>>124424752
your level 98 meta pisses me off, and i refuse to fight level 120+ "builds"
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>>124424801
But everyones fighting>>124425139
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>>124425181
How dead is this room? I haven't really PVPd before in this game but I wanna start somewhere.
>>
Anyone still have Brador alive in their world? I killed the fuck out of him but I'm making a Brador character and have no idea what his face looks like.
>>
>>124424472
>>124424752

if i bump my vit from 50 to 65 and end from 18 to 25, would be a good idea? then i can open up an endurance runeslot to stack another vitality rune.
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>>124425520
because it's past 6pm est dumbass
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>>124425471
The one in the cave? I just circle around the large rock on the right and prep a fully charged R2 while he walks around the corner, rinse and repeat.
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>>124425485
i dont know about the end or start time, its just this thing fextra life has.

I'm getting some matches here right now though.
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>>124425471
Sidestep and shoot them, or diagonally sidestep until you're close, where you can dodge around behind them and punish them for it. The tracking is ass up close, just don't attack from the front.
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>>124425471
>bitching on the thread
get gud lmao
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>ringing in Fight Club
>Lost connection, returning to menu
>sit and wait to invade
>nothing
>3 times in a row
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>>124425471
Unlock and sprint laterally.
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How many people in the FC have high tier gems? I keep getting two shot at 40 Vit.
>>
Anyone else unable to connect to PSN?
Been having trouble with the connection for two days and now it just refuses to connect entirely.
>>
Why is Saif so bae?
>>
>>124424537

The Saw Cleaver is kinda boring because it's a very "basic" weapon. It's just powerful, fast R1/transform attack spam. It's effective, yes, but not the most entertaining weapon out there.

Anyway, it looks like you're going STR. Do you have the DLC? If so, you can access these weapons after you defeat Amelia:

>Boom Hammer
>Beast Cutter
>Whirligig Saw
>Amygdalan Arm

Those are fun to use, but, aside from the Beast Cutter, you might have a hard time obtaining them. If you don't want to brace the DLC quite yet, then you can easily access these weapons:

>Kirkhammer
>Ludwig's Holy Blade
>Stake Driver
>Hunter's Axe

The Kirkhammer doesn't really have a sweetspot, just an AoE that enemies still get hit by if you miss. It's just really close to your character which makes it difficult to use against fast enemies. You might get punished if you mistime an attack, but that's what the sword mode is for. Hunter's Axe is another great choice, but I feel like you might get back into old habits (Charged R2 spam.). Still, it's a cool weapon. you can give it another chance and use the rest of the moveset instead. I'd say give those other weapons I mentioned above a try and stick with the one you like the most.
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>>124425717
most people, don't tell me you're that ludwig memeblade that does shit damage?
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>>124425885
it's the fact the transformations add like 40 extra stamina to your character.

I didn't think a fucking cleaver could be this fun.
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>>124425717
100% of /bbg/ has top tier gems.
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>>124425974
Not me
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>>124426036
>100% if bbg
you mean 100% of pre-dlc bbg, as this dude clearly does not
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>Physical attack +27.2%
>Attack down -7.9%
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>>124425471
hi
>>
>ROM as an acronym can refer to: "Rupture of Membranes or amniorrhexis, a term used during pregnancy to describe a rupture of the amniotic sac"
AAAAAAA
>>
>>124426109
not even pre-dlc era did
we still had those "chalice dungeons r bad design" fuckboys
>>
>>124426109
I do but not on the character I'm doing FC on right now. It's actually my first time doing FC even though I had the game day 1 so I was just wondering.
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>>124396056
My newest

>>124425519
Wut? How are you pissed off by level 98?

>>124425593
What runes are you even using now?

>>124425923
I use the Axe constantly and really don't use the R2 that much. Pretty much every move, at least on the extended mode is amazing. Limiting yourself to just the R2, charged or not, is a detriment.
>>
>doing FC as grr lmao
>my slashes are connecting on my screen, sound/blood and all
>no damage to them
>get hit by them from twice their weapons range
>lose all matches
this is why I want this game to be on PC at times.
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>>124426428
It'd be the same thing on pc, dude. It's just latency, it;s the same in every single souls game.
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>>124426428
Eh, same thing happens on PC.
>>
So I'm new to this game and having a blast, but I don't know how to get into the pvp aspect of it.
What are good places to invade? And If I want honorabu duels where should I do that? Also, I'm lvl 78 atm, but what soul level is the best for matching with people in pvp?

Hope on of you guys can help me out 'cause pvp is one of my favorite things about the souls games, and after playing bloodborne I just can't go back to das 2
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>>124426273
did you leave the general though? I really meant ded bbg as a lot of people left without max gems but the people who stuck around eventually got them
>>124426264
true but they didn't pvp
>>
>>124426507
>>124426548
You have to be retarded to think that there won't be better latency on PC than on PS4. Come the fuck on son. Sure you have some people lagging on PC but not EVERY single match is a piece of shit with latency.
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>>124426548
>>124426507
It would be even worse on PC, since they would be using Cheat Engine as well as being laggy.
>>
>trying to play BB
>itchy asshole driving me insane

This is hell.
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>>124426642
It literally is. Have you played DaS1 or 2 on pc? The latency is absolutely identical.
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>>124425597
Oh I thought you said weast.
>>
>>124425563

He's an old man, I can't say beyond that. Bit of a beard but only on his chin I think. Hard to say, the position he's sitting and the angle of the hood make it hard.
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>>124426549
There's a fightclub going on right now in the Pthumerian root chalice 6cb7ieyy. No healing and you have to blood bullet if you're the host but otherwise anything goes. It's every Saturday starting at 6pm est.
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>>124426590
>did you leave the general though?
Yeah, I made a few characters, farmed gems on one of them, did everything in the game, then left till ToH came out.
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>>124426678
>americans clean their ass with tissue paper.

you fatties need to learn hygiene. get a bidet.
>>
Will the story chalices leading up to yharnam ever give me anything better than the gems you can farm from the brain guys at the end of the dlc, or will I only find better ones once I start spelunking for real?
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>>124425717

I have 19-22% from mensis and dlc brains
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>>124426549
>>124426782
Oh and BL98 is the best at matching with people from here and anyone who sticks to the 120 meta.
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>>124426889
>Will the story chalices leading up to yharnam ever give me anything better than the gems you can farm from the brain guys at the end of the dlc
No.
>or will I only find better ones once I start spelunking for real?
Yes.
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>>124426889
The defiled chalice can give you 23%+ gems. You're better off not farming though until you reach pwmf22gu etc
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>>124426732
Have you? I've played some PvP in souls that had fantastic connection. Do you happen to have brazilian internet or something?
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>>124399119

Holy kek this is the best version of the Arnie pasta
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>>124426829
I actually do have a bidet! And I'm more of a malnourished nerd, not a fat slob nerd.
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>>124424537
Kirkhammer doesn't have a sweetspot. Rather, it has shockwaves that deal 40% damage, so you can completely miss a swing and still deal some damage. On top of that, its R1 has a stupid unintuitive swing arc. When you swing the hammer, it will land on the ground infront of you and to the side a bit, rather than directly infront of you... but then the animation snaps it the frame after you finish your swing to look like the hammer landed directly in front of you, without the actual hitbox following suit. So it LOOKS like you swing directly infront of you, but you actually don't. If you want to hit an enemy with the hammer itself instead of the shockwave, you need to either be at close range or swing while facing to the left of where your target actually is (and then on follow-up swings, face to the right). Refer to my diagram and all will be made clear.
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>lead elixer
Fucking Sir McGitGud
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>>124427000
What is 'spelunking for real'? Cursed and defiled?
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>>124427246
Yeah FRC rites at depth 5.
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>>124427231
le alfred man of low vit
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>>124426549

/bbg/ hold fight clubs every Saturday. In fact, there's one going on right now. You just have to hit up the chalice dungeon (6cb7ieyy) and ring your Sinister Bell. There's rules, too, so make sure you're aware of those before ringing.

Most places have a different ideal level as to what the "meta" level for duels/invasions should be. Some like 80, others 98, others 110, 120, etc. I'd just stick to that range since most people on /bbg/ usually fight at those levels. If you're doing regular invasions, then there's no need to be concerned about your level unless it's something crazy like 200+.

Also, make sure you have decent gems on your weapons. I'm pretty sure most people in /bbg/ fight clubs use high-tier gems, so be prepared for that.
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>>124427017
I was just wondering because I don't have PS+ and therefore can't use glyphs. I just wanted to know if it'd be worthwhile to farm up some higher tier gems from those dlc brains before trudging through defiled/lower loran/isz/ihyll or if I'd naturally get better gems doing those dungeons and be able to progress just fine without farming.

I've beaten the game twice and don't have it in my for a 3rd playthrough with literally 0 online features, so the chalices are the last thing I have to finish before I shelve the game for good.

When I bought it I didn't realize half of the features would be behind a subscription paywall like some modern pay2win mmo.
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>>124426350
using 2 stamina runes and 1 vitality rune
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You have 10 seconds to name something more satisfying than popping a beast pellet and L2 grinding the one reborn with the whirligig saw.
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>>124427479
>When I bought it I didn't realize half of the features would be behind a subscription paywall like some modern pay2win mmo.
As someone who bought a PS4 and PS+ solely for bloodborne I feel your pain. I couldn't imagine playing BB for long without online at all. Really man, it's not BB unless you've got online. Just doesn't feel right.
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>>124427727
Beating shitters using Rakuyo and Saif with a Kirkhammer/Whirlgig + Gatling Gun
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>>124427727

Double viscerals on a boss.
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>>124426549
98 or 120 is the best level for PvP.

Best places for invading are the Nightmares, since they are the only places in the main game that you can invade people by default.

>>124427535
You shouldn't even need more than 20 end and the 15% stamina rune and maybe the HoH one.

>>124427772
Not really. Playing it offline is just fine. The only thing that sucks is not being able to use the chalice codes. The other things don't change much. It's not like you get a bunch of random invasions like in DaS.
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>>124427772
I had das1 for the xbox and it let me at least play in online mode and see messages and whatnot without a paid subscription. This shit is some high-tier jewery straight from sony. It won;t even let you pick online mode without a subscription, it just sends you to the PS+ screen and tells you to get your creditcard ready to give them even more of your money.
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>>124427840
>>124427727
laughing at memegig fags
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>>124427727
Styling all over people as an Broccoli.
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so where are all the cool kids pvping now? Haven't played in a while.
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Alright so I'm having some technical trouble. Whenever I launch Online play and hit continue, it disconnects me and boots me the second the loading screen disappears. My other games work fine online, and this wasn't an issue a few weeks ago, when I last played it. I've been getting around it by playing offline, but that shit's boring.

My NAT type is 2, in case that means anything. I've heard it can fuck shit up.
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>>124428015
can you parry that move?
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>>124428015
You are DarkStalkerRai-tier
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>>124428015
Oh god that's priceless
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>>124428191
in the start up, pretty sure it just knocks them out of it if you do it while they're walking at you
>>124428231
mad memegig powderkek detected
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>>124428015
dris how do you always get the dumbest hosts and cooperators
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>Get a pretty good early fire radial from pthumeru
>HP gradually depletes
Into the trash it goes
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anyone got that vid with the jap fucking shit up on the DLC at ng7
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>>124428353
luck stat 99
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>>124428557
>didn't even spritz him
why do you even bother
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>trying to finish the game at BL4
>everytime i fall down to micolash fight he uses A Call Beyong and oneshots me
>even if i dodge he does it again
>there was even a time where he did it 4 times in a row
i want to get out of Mr.Awoo wild ride
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>>124428802
Just shoot him to interrupt it.
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>>124428557
>Didn't even get the visceral

wow rude
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>>124400718
>DaS2 has the best music
actually bloodborne does but DaS2 has the second best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf5Ymjn3z4w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztPGThfD_GY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFrcmJQencc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em5gtDJcFqM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAVCkVclNR4

Gehrman's theme is the best in the series, Ludwig's theme is only good for the 30 first seconds of his 2nd stage, the rest is an earsore.
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>>124428802
jesus just shoot him
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>tfw ludwig won't stop bullying me
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>>124429017
this desu
Is level 50 too low for the DLC?
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>>124395627
You still offering help? I could use some help with Ludwig, level 37. I'll be ringing by the gate.
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>>124400718
>das2 had the bet music
i'll fuck you up all the way to alabama you motherfucker
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>>124428802
you know the part where you drop down and he runs adn locks the gate?

If you don't drop, go to the side so that as you look down on him the mirror is on the left and the gate on the right. from there I was able to snipe him, he'd vanish, run out of the mirror and stand in the same spot. I did that till he died, easy way to cheese it.
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>>124429119
Yeah, not to say that you can't beat it at level 4, but the DLC is optimally played at end game levels.
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I ned gud glyphs for gems.
Any new jap glyphs?
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>>124429123
I'll help too give me a few just got summoned
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Anyone wanna help me with Ebrietas? Waiting at the bottom of the elevator. Password 'bbg'
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Does anyone actually use the beast cutter? In hundreds of invades I never seen it once. I see the fucking church pick more, though it has a hipster factor to it.
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>>124428969
You forgot the best one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz1_3az6Hgs
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>>124429017
>Ludwig will never mentor you
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>>124429294
Thanks bbgbro, you da reel mvp
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>>124429494
It's just slow and telegraphed as hell.
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>>124429420
On my way.
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>>124429494
Beastcutter is shit, even after chalice gems. It consumes a fuckload of stamina, is slow in both forms and doesn't hit very hard compared to faster, stronger, more efficient weapons. All it has going for it is long reach in the whipmode, but it's way too easy to parry in that form.
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>>124429541
Why would he need to?
He gives you the true mentor
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>>124429659
>its actually shorter range than the whip
why did from do this
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>>124429659
The right weapon is this one.
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does the roar gesture change if you're in beast/kin mode?
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>>124429651
Thank you. I never beat her on my first playthrough so I just want to knock her out this time.
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>>124429582
waiting there now with ilovebbg password

I'm level 61 though, can I even help you?

>>124429237
so what is the expected level, 80 or so? I think I need the extra physical defence of more levels, he can still one shot me pretty easy.
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>>124429869
Yeah, around level 80, I think in the demo, players were around level 78 and the enemies and bosses were weakened for the demo.

The DLC seems to be on par of tougher than the lowest chalice dungeons.
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Havnt been keeping up with lore stuff but is there any explanation as to why theres an umbilical cord in the old hunters workshop?
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how long is the new DLC boys?
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>>124429869
I might have to wait later into the game to do this guy, even with help my HP is too damn low. Thanks for your help though
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Is fight club still going? been ringing for about 5 minutes and i see a bunch of bloodspots on the floor but im not getting invaded or any invasion. level 95 right now
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>>124430114
It's what Gehrman used to beckon the MP.
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I can't fucking do it. I can't beat Orphan. I swear to god, this boss is so stupid. I die in one hit from 90% of his moves. If I get lucky I won't get stun locked from the first hit and be able to back off and heal. I keep running out of bullets and viles so I have to keep fucking farming, which is terrible game design in my opinion. It's not bad inherently and throughout most of the game, but if you get stuck on a boss or situation like this, it's just another tedious break you have to take to halt your progress. I'm level 70, dunno if it's too low or if I'm just bad. If I make ONE mistake it's usually over and I feel like my damage should compensate for it, but no. This boss actually takes the least amount of damage than any other boss I've fought in the game. Am I just bad or is my build shit or what? I'm just using a +10 saw cleaver since it's my first playthrough.
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>>124429776
why do people use the saw weapons after saif was added
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>>124430202
get better gems
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>>124429494

I use it sometimes. There's no good reason to because I have an Amy arm, but I just love it. And I guess it's good at hitting from behind enemies? Not really.

Does anyone know if a heavy gem would make it good, considering that I have 50 strength? 25 skill too, so I'm pushing this thing pretty hard.
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>>124430183
Yeah but whose cord is it, where did he get it from?
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>>124429776
>>124429659
>>124429494
Beasthunter saifu is for laifu
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>>124430267
it's still the best weapon for pvp in the game
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>>124426186
>HP continually depletes -9
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>>124430183
I doubt he meant that. That's stated right in the description. Anon probably meant how it came to in Gehrman and Laurence's possession in the first place.
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I'm not getting any action in 6cb7ieyy. Wat do?
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>>124430179

Yes we are fighting, the connections are taking a while though.
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>>124430159
If you are good and on NG-NG+1 maybe 6-7 hours.

If you are bad or on NG+2, or higher, then maybe 10.
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>>124430173
we got him down pretty quick. it's all about aggression that fight. don't every attack behind him, get inside the first swing and just go tot town on his dick, with two people R1 spamming you should be able to stagger him.

but yeah 37 is quite low, I still get one hit there.
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Don't know why I even bother trying to pvp in this lagfest of an online.
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>>124414250
If you accept Arianna's 3 times Adella kills her. Arianna's heals and adds stamina regen, Adella's adds health regen on the heal.
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>>124430363
Said is good for pvp, it sucks on pve.
Saw spear is amazing on both
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>>124430367
why
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So I wanna try my hand at a BLT build. What would be the order of business?

Get to Lost Woods -> Iofkas Clinic -> Cainhurst as fast as possible?

Where would I find useful Blood Gems, except chalice dungeons?

What weapon to use unti Chikage? People say blood spear, why? Unfortunately I don't like its moveset at all.
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>>124430405
What level are?
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>>124430347
>>124430396
Who knows?
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>>124430543
62. I was getting matches last weekend.
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>>124430509
See >>124430487
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I'm out. Hardly anyone in here right now stacks vit.

>>124430405
Close and re-open the game.
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At what point does skill stop making noticable increases to vicseral attack damage?
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>>124430537
eh saw spear*
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>>124430537
>blood spear
What is this blood spear you speak of?

>>124430585
I really wish there was more background information given on the early hunters and the church. Mostly just Gehrman, Maria, Ludwig, and Laurence.

>>124430630
You should be getting even more this week due to the amount of people that know about it now. That is strange. Have you tried exiting the game and restarting the PS4 and all of that?
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>>124430461

Yeah its very leggy sometimes, after all these games though I've come to accept it. Sometimes you will receive the wheel even though it was pointed the opposite direction of you, sometimes you will vacuum suck him from 100 yards back into a backstab. Such is life in the soulsverse.

Getting tired of hurting though, so let me know where and I'll try to help some bbg friends now.
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>>124430647
i the answer to why it is the best pvp weapon is that its the best pve weapon

wowee anon
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>>124430702
70.
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>>124430537
People only say bloodspear because it's literally the only blt scaling mainhand weapon until the chik, and even then only the gunshots scale with blt.

Prior to cainhurst you're stuck with firearms being your only real blt scaling weapon. You're best off just using a saw cleaver and shredding things until after amelia. You can try to be gun-focused, but it's a pain in the ass and you basically rely on wasting all your echoes constantly buying bullets and bone ash for your repeater
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>>124430202
>which is terrible game design in my opinion
I agree with that. Having to farm vials and bullets is stupid.

The boss, though, isn't that bad. He is actually easier than most of the bosses in the game. He has more of Dark Souls than BB feel to his combat. I beat him on the second try. The trick is just learning the spacing and dodging behind him.

>>124430267
The Saif isn't obtained as early and doesn't have the bonus damage?

>>124430383
Who the hell thought that was a good idea?

>>124430778
>>What is this blood spear you speak of?
The blood letter
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>>124430910
>The blood letter
Oh yeah? He's gonna get the Blood Letter before getting the Chikage?
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Thanks for the help with Ebrietas even though I was doing 1800 shots with shit Mensis jemz. A lot easier than when I tried to do it 9 months ago with threaded cane.
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>>124430910
>Who the hell thought that was a good idea?

BIG M, OF COURSE.
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>>124430347
One popular theory is he got his when he and the other hunters disturbed Kos' corpse
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>tfw no str/blt starting class
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>>124431093
Which would imply that it's the oprhan's cord, except that the orphan has his cord still attached when you fight it.
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>>124431032
No problem, I just beat her on this character earlier today and found the same thing.
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>>124431165
>arc class has 5 tinge
>tinge class has 9 arc

why the fuck
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>>124431169
The physical counterpart of the Orphan of Kos is probably long dead, just like Micolash's corpse. It's pretty reasonable to suggest that it the cord could be from the Orphan but I doubt there's enough evidence to really prove it definitively.
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Is there a good place to farm Blood echoes early game?

How am I supposed to afford all this shit? Ludwigs holy blade is 20k.
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>>124430910
Lucy, please. You don't make good female characters. I'm sorry.
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>you can tell there is a hidden wall by the draft sound
>loran has draft sounds in it's ambiance noises
thanks b team
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>>124431319

That's why you pick lone wanderer for tinge builds unless you want the psssh nothing personnel bone
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>>124431345
Run between the first lamp of Forbidden Woods and the village. Nets 14k echoes plus a bunch of bullets and vials.
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>almost the year of our lord 2016
>souls pvp is still peer to peer

what would server based pvp feel like, /bbg/
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>>124430202
Level more Vit, alternatively, get one of us to kill him for you.

His first form is fairly simple and is about learning to be careful of his large swings and how to properly time your dodges of them.

His second form you need to yolo his ass literally. As in stick to his ass, he is extremely easy to avoid being hit by simply by keeping close to his sides.

The problem comes when he starts jumping everywhere and throwing pus bombs. Never try to dodge through them. They're resistant to iframe fuckery.
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>still so many questions left unanswered
>still so many left half-answered
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>>124431345
https://youtu.be/XDqHU4iCUcM

good for souls, vials, bullets, and upgrade materials
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> Maria is a Cainhurst
> and a Pthumerian
Fucking Mary sue piece of shit
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>>124430476
So can you accept both 3 times?
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>>124431319
The 'tinge class is meant to be a hybrid QSB class because from knew from the outset that pure ting would not be a viable playthrough and wanted to encourage those players to use something else to supplement them. They didn't design the tinge-based class around assuming the player would find the chikage and wanted it to remain a viable starter class for first playthroughs that just wanted more ranged focus, so it easily allows them to build into both gun damage and hunter tools while also using a melee weapon.
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>>124431345

After you beat BSB get whackity sacked and farm Hypogean Gaol
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>>124431532
I know my friend. It's disheartening in a way. Knowing there's the chance they'll never make a sequel. Also knowing there's a chance they'll make a sequel and it'll be awful.
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>>124431615
>and a Pthumerian
What?
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>>124431735

Fire and blood? Beats me
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>>124430910
Literally every post of yours has some dumb fuckery in it. I have no idea why you continue coming to these threads when you're so blatantly wrong about fucking everything

Orphan more akin to a DaS boss? Are you fucking kidding me? Taking on this boss with DaS' mechanics would be fucking ludicrous
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>>124431728
Given the recent gameplay video, it's looking like DaS3 is going to actually just be BB2 by another name. The only thing darksouls about it by this point is that your cloth armor has a plate skin over it.
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>have a clear, new character and motif in mind
>play it for 5 hours
>say "Ah fuck it"
>go back to gem farming on my main before my thought out theme character is even remotely finished

Who else does this shit?
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Fight club still going strong /bbg/?
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>>124431615
>implying they are not the same thing
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>>124431728
Truly a Hell we can never escape.
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>>124431615
>Is a Cainhurst

Why do people keep saying this? Do you say that people from Spain are "a Spain" instead of a Spaniard or Spanish? Just call them Vilebloods, like the game does
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>>124431735
>>124431798
Cainhurst are a noble lineage, descendants of the Pthumerian line.
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>pure blt bow character
>can't follow the merry-go-round strat because of it
>bri charging point blank
Wow this is awful. Anyone want to help me out? Bl 48 pass bbg157 and it's story Isz Bri
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>>124431884
It's just kind of shit that literally every playthrough is the same fucking thing for the first several hours. It takes so long before you actually have access to unique build-specific weapons or before your stats actually get high enough to start mattering.

Who thought it was a good idea to lock so many unique weapons behind the 2nd half of the game, or make it so that scaling doesn't matter at all until your weapon is +8 and has 15% gems.
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>>124431891
it's a desert

I don't think reddit likes to pvp.
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>>124432061
This is speculation. Valid speculation, mind you, but don't go stating it as fact.
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>>124431884

My personal dilemma at the moment is whether to work on building characters, fully equipping the characters I have with gems/weapons, or getting in as many random invasions as I can while it's busy.

I think it's one of those things where I'll regret my decision no matter what, but it still pains me. There's too many things to do and not enough time. Makes me wish I was still part-time.
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>>124432128
What a shame, I had some nice fights just before the scheduled time
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>>124432061
>descendants of the Pthumerian line.
It's specifically stated somewhere that the Vileblood strain was originally controlled by the church and was stolen by cainhurst. They aren't descendants of the Pthumerians, they just happened to take that blood when they betrayed the church and broke off.
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>>124432093
I've never noticed that her bottom half is reminiscent of a pair of squatting legs.
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>>124431850
I'm starting to prefer the lore and setting of Bloodborne to those of Dark Souls. As far as gameplay goes I'm not even sure how I'm going to return to Souls slowness if it does turn out to be something of a return to form. I have yet to see this recent video but from what I've seen before you're probably right.
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>>124431891
Was going strong for 3 hours but it's dying down now. I would say you lost the train
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I know I'll get greentexted for this, but are there any VaatiVidya style lore videons on Bloodborne?
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How does the scaling work on the Holy Moonlight Sword? does arcane increase base damage or only the damage of the projectiles?
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Why am I being summoned for Watchers gem farming?
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>>124432259
Bloodborne's lore is a lot less am,biguous and more straightforward, and it's told to you in a much more direct fashion. BB in general was a much more narrative-focused game than souls games traditionally are.
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>>124432327

All that's left are the laggers it seems.

Good fights while it was on folks but I'm going to co-op some now. Anyone need help anywhere?
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>>124432364
Yes
in fact
Vaati literally made lore videos on bloodborne
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>>124432534
Are they any good? Someone linked me a 109 page essay from leddit, I might read that first
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>>124431969
The agony is pretty unbearable. Maybe they'll forgo that swearing off of Souls style games and make an interesting new IP.

>>124432413
Yeah that's mostly why I'm liking it more. It's not really trying to tell a far-reaching, grandiose story that spans eons like Dark Souls does. It succeeds at telling a fully realized albeit smaller-in-scale story.
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>>124432258

If you look at them that way, she's in almost this exact position whenever you walk into one of her boss rooms the first time, except her arms are out to the side.
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>>124431891
Eh, It's all Rakuyo users now.
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>>124432364
Put shit together for yourself, make connections. You'll likely walk away with more plausible interpretations than any of the lore autists that post here

But if you absolutely insist on being handheld through the lore, read the Paleblood Hunt. It's alright, I guess. Author is an autist and throws in some silly speculation here and there but it's probably the best overall skeleton of the story for reference. There's lots it doesn't cover though
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heh, I fell down the bridges in lower loran and ended up in the second layer, dead but still
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>>124432635
Oh the ironing.
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So what are the halal weapons for an executioner character?

Logarius Wheel, Kirk, Ludwig's and moonsword?
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>>124432259
>>124432413

Something about BB's story grips me more than Dark souls 1/2. It's probably because DS is more removed from reality than bloodborne.
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>>124432525
If you want you can help me kill defiled Amygdala real quick. Pass will be bimbis if you're interested

>>124432674
Yeah I noticed. Luckily the MLGS has a great R2 set
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>>124431374
No need to be jealous.

>>124431828
He has obvious tels combined with a small number of attacks. He has short combo strings, and he has adequate recovery times, making it easy to punish him.

>>124431532
That's the entire point.

>>124432409
They can be annoying if you don't know how to parry them safely.
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>>124432820

That might be a little bit above my caliber, I'm not much of a dungeon delver. The bow can cheese that though right?
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>>124432413
This is absolutely untrue. Major plot/lore points in the game are completely ambiguous(MP, Oedon, Rom). The lore is MUCH more speculative and open-ended than Souls games, where it's not uncommon for characters to just be walking info booths. So much more of BB is conveyed through environmental narrative and visual correlation.
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>>124432932
Yeah It shits on Amygdala. Don't worry I'll take most of the aggro. I just want jolly co-op. We could also just kill some FRC Watchers if you feel like it
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>>124432932
>>124433049


Crap I don't even have the srrc on this character, made it a few days ago. I would come on a strength character but I'd be 100% dead weight.
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fuck me this saif game

>>124432230
they sort their heritage, that the usurpers of the healing church would forbid them the blood of their birthright was an insult to her majesty's court.
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>>124432829
>small number of attacks
He has a larger moveset in his first form alone than any boss in either DaS. Literally tally the moves and see for yourself. His recovery is too short, particularly in phase 2 on most moves to plausibly dodge and counter using the DaS roll. Of that I'm almost certain
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>>124432781
That as well. I really like Dying Earth settings and Dark Souls certainly has that going for it but Bloodborne's Yharnam is just such a richly characterized setting that it's hard to favor the overgrown ruins and baroque shantytowns of Lordran.

It also helps that I really enjoyed cosmic horror and old monster movies when I was younger because Bloodborne is the perfect mash-up of the two.
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pizza cutter + pellet + fire paper ayy lmao loran silverbeast
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Paige, you had literally 1 HP left! That's all the shotgun blast took off.
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>>124433184
Actually I just realized. I haven't killed Ludwig on my ARC Character. Would you like to help me with that?
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>>124433405

Yeah that sounds much better. I'll ring by the gate. Pw bimbis?
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>>124433243
It doesn't matter that all of his moves don't have a long recovery. As long as a few of them do. Just watch the vid of the BL4 jap backstabbing him in phase 2.
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>>124432781
The original souls games are really not narrative focused. You have a sort of vague outline of a very fantasy-esque monomyth quest and then everything else, like the lore and the background history and whatnot are all just worldbuilding. It helps contextualize your story but it doesn't ever add to the story itself.

There's a million of smaller stories all within the dark souls world, involving practically every NPC and boss and whatnot, but the story oft he game itself is siple and told simply. That's why when people talk about the hidden and speculative stuff, they call it "Lore" and not story or narrative, because it isn't story or narrative that they're talking about.

BB's story has a very, very tight narrative focus,. Every bit of worldbuilkding ties back into the narrative, every bit of 'lore' feeds into the main plot and even the structure of the game itself is made to help move you through a progressing plotline. There's a few framing metaphors and themes that consume everything, and the whole story is build within the paradigm they set. Virtually every name in bloodborne is in some way a reference or metaphor for moon cycles, neurology or female reproductive terms.

BB is literally playing through a very complex and subtle narrative that effectively marries traditional gothic and modernist cosmic horrors. It odes that really well. It's also why a lot of people who spoiled the story for themselves appreciate the game a lot less and are at a loss as to why. It's like Reading Benito Cereno after having someone tell you the ending; it's a completely different and much less engaging narrative when you know where every subtle hint and exceptionally particular choice of words is supposed to be leading you.
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>>124431891
I keep invading and getting invaded by a ton of players. I say it's still going strong.
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>>124433525
Yeah bimbis. Also I meant to say Laurence, so just ring by the Hunter's Nightmare lamp instead.
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>defiled amygdala
>metric shit ton of health
>even with max upgraded gear at that point you do fuck all damage
>tiny arena
>jumping attacks that break lockon
>if you get hit by a cosmic slam but somehow survive you're scooped off the ground immediately for a cheap second hit and die anyway
>every attempts wastes 10 minutes of your day to try not get caught off guard by a cheap flaily instakill attack

Who was the quality tester behind this garbage?
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>>124433656

>Laurence

Alright I'm bringing the lube.
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Im making a BL98 bowblade build, is it still worth getting 15 arcane for beast roar?
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>>124433691
>he can't git gud
Poor guy
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>>124433691
cheese her with the axe
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>>124433740
Don't worry, it's NG so it shouldn't be that hard

Rang my bell at the lamp now by the way
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>>124396056
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>>124433768
Why would you want beast roar on a bowblade build?
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>>124433792
I don't use the axe. I use the wheel.
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>>124433768

Roar's always useful for ledge shenanigans, but with a bowblade you really need all your bullets for your bow.
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>>124433691
>go behind
>hit tail
>he'll eventually jump
>roll towards the head when he's falling
>hit head
>repeat
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>>124433861
I was just wondering, thats why i asked. I havnt done a bloodtinge build in ages and havnt done a bowblade build before
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>>124433898
nigga I don't use the axe either but I bought one, upgraded it to 9, stuck my gems in there and killed her ez
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>>124433947
This you can cheese it, my fight with him was just him constantly jumping.
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>>124433559
Excellent post. I really hope that whatever From does next contains even a kernel of the intricate designs found in Bloodborne. The way the story and the world and the characters mesh reminds me of an early Gene Wolfe novel or something. There's just so many layers to unfold but even if you pull back the bare minimum it's still an engaging story.
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some pizza and bloodborne tonight boys wew

what you eating faggots?
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>>124434036
I'm solid outta chunks. They're invested in rosy, beast claws and wheel.
If you think I'm spending a week killing werewolves in upper cathedral for one weapon to kill one boss you're crazy.
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>>124433947
Do you even need to roll? When I did it I just turned around and did a charge R2.
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>tfw dominating scrubs not adhering to fight club rules
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>>124433691
You ever try not getting hit?
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Whats a good origin for a BL98 bowblade build?
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>>124433528
He's faster and more aggressive than damn near every other boss in the game. He stands out among the DLC bosses for being particularly dynamic; even his evasive animations are all attacks. "More like a Dark Souls boss" is something I have a lot oftrouble getting behind. But to each their own I suppose
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>>124434239
>finishing people off with Gatling Gun

m-m-muh dik
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>>124434232
Just speed run chalice dungeons. It takes around an hour or less.
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>>124434232
Just run the first Isz Brainsucker boss. It drops chunks much more often than the werewolves.
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Based hunter saif.....
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>>124434337
He's probably the only boss in the game I could actually fight with the kirklhammer in hammer mode and not feel like I was gimping myself. He leaves a lot of openings everywhere and after every combo, some of them large enough to consistently landed charged R2s. In that sense, he's definitely akin to a souls boss. Actually reminds me a lot of artorias.
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What's the absolute best chalice ID to use for blood chunks?

There's a loran one at enjids45 that drops 2 chunks.

But is there a faster way than doing runs on that?
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>>124433740
Flawless, thanks. It was nice to meet you again outside of battle.
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40 arc and 40 strength amy arm or pizza cutter? Is elemental pizza cutter a thing? plz respond
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>>124434557
huy83p9r
>run to the right, pull lever
>run back, fight brainsucker
It's literally faster than using bold hunters marks, that's how close the lever is
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>invade "fight club"
>host doesn't even bloodbullet
>just spams arrow in the corner
simply ebin
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>>124433626
Nevermind, the activity really dwindled down just as I posted this message. Seems like the Fightclub's done.

GG to everyone I fought, I was an Anon with the Bowblade.
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>>124434631
do you know if wearing eye runes increases the number of chunks dropped?
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>>124434223

I'm going to Whole Foods in a bit to buy a salad!
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>>124434557
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EpnxOE1_Vk
let the silky smooth sound of nugz be ur guide bby
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>>124434568

Same to you. I like to help as well as hurt. Poor Laurence, no legs means getting kited by ranged fags all day.
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>>124434261
Anyone?
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>>124434557
Ptwrx6b
Just rush through all 3 layers in about 10 minutes total. All 3 bosses are a joke, and you have a chance for a rock on layer 3

>Brainsucker
>Watchers
>Emissary (alone)
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>>124434717
No but it increases the base chance of chunk drops. I think he always either drops one chunk at a time or two and I'm pretty sure the Eye runes make it so he drops the two more often but you won't get any more than that.
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>>124434717
It increases the chance of chunks dropping, nobody will ever be able to prove whether it increases the chance of more chunks or better gems. Everyone has a different story about eye runes.
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>>124434578
Amy Arm with Nourshing Gems is a beast with your stats.

Elemental Pizza cutter is a thing. But with your stats a beast pellet and a buff would deal more dps in PvE
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>>124416838
Late response but how much str do you have?
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>>124434765
>>124434830
alright thanks
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How's the reiter with a bloodtinge skill build? I was thinking about doing a reiter/bow blade build
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>>124434261
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com>>124434830

>>124434830
should be ptwrx6tb, if capitalization matters then it is a lower case "p".
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Could we try to not make two threads this time?
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>>124435027
It's Bloodtinge scaling is terrible.
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>>124434578

With that stat spread, your best weapon is probably the Wheel. Amy arm is the better out of the two you posted, though, since it'll actually use both stats at the same time.
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>>124435027
Its gun is weaker than actual guns on a blt build, so there's really no reason to use it on a blt-focused build. It's more or less just a pure skill weapon with a slight blt requirement.
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>>124435069
NEW THREAD WHEN?
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Literally my saif is saifing these nigga lmaoooo
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>>124435147
The arc scaling on the amy arm is abysmal, it's like D at +10. You'll never get good arc damage off of it, no matter what.
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>>124434578
amy arm with nourishing it is thanks m8y
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Anyone want to give me a hand with Amelia?

Level 35

Password is bbg, outside the door
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>>124434514
The only bosses I felt moved around as much or more than he did are Abhorrent Beast, Paarl, Logarius and maybe Gehrman? All of whom tend to move around faster than any Souls bosses barring maybe Gwyn, Allant or Alonne.
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>farming brains at hamlet
>want to get a beast down and a durability down for my bow
>stamina stamina stamina
>HP depletes HP depletes HP depletes
>kin down kin down kin down

Is this a thing where they won't drop specific curses or am I having horrible luck? This makes it 20 runs I think.
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>>124432375
It very slightly increases the damage of regular attacks, but not so much that arcane stat investment or gems are worthwhile.
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I AM ALFRED THE R1 MASHER

I HAVE COME TO FIGHT CLUB TO FIGHT
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>>124432781
das is a lot less hopeful, plus it has the ancient evil awakens type vibe. it does it well though. everyone in das is fucked no matter what really.

BB is simpler, especially from your own point of view. You became a hunter to find a cure, you fuck beasts up, that's that. don't mess with blood and you won't have to deal with any of it.
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>>124435053

I'll do my part by just sitting here and waiting for someone else to make the thread.

>>124435215

Yeah, he should be using a wheel. But Amy at least won't waste one of those stats like the Whirligig will.
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>>124435069
Ah, I didn't know that. So the chikage would be a better choice with the bow blade?
>>
new thread where
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Does Eileen not show up in cathedral ward if I've already killed Amelia ? She's not in her usual spot, I talked to her in the sewers if it matters
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>>124435315
put a shirt on you fucking communist
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>>124435379
Yes.
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>>124435285
Bow nerd on my way senfamily
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>>124435414
Open the Hunter Chief Emblem gate. How you do it doesn't matter.
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>>124432375
In one hand mode, ARC doesn't matter.
In two hand, it only really matters when you use R2 and L2, which are ass without ARC.
You either leave it at 14, 15 for tools and never use R2 and L2, or go 25 and lose out on some R1 damage for increased projectile damage.
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>>124435379

Chikage and/or Bloodletter.

>>124435414

No, you have to finish the fight with Henryk before you kill Amelia to trigger Crowsteel.
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>>124435445
Thanks, appreciate it. Does the piercing rifle have any actual practical use? It seems like an interesting weapon to use.
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>>124435310
I'm pretty newish to the game (just finished first playthrough couple of days ago) and totally new at PVP, so maybe the answer is pretty obvious, but it's not to me:
Why are you rather having beast down than kin down on your cursed runes? As far as I can tell many more mobs and bosses are beast class than kin class. And kin enemies are usually super easy (ayy lmao mobs, ayy lmao emissary etc.)
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I want to make a Bloodletter build, any tips? I basically will not have my weapon until the end of the game and Im not sure what I should use beforehand. I don't want to have to waste points into SKL for chikage
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How the fuck do I beat Lawrence second form?
You cant stand in front or he smacks you and you cant stand behind because he is pooping lava. Stand to his sides? No he has lava poop there.
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>>124435648
I think it's now the best gun the game damage wise, barring maybe the cannons.
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>>124435671
You'll be fine if you just have well upgrade equipment up until chikage.
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uhhhhhh new thread guys?
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>>124435671
The ideal bloodletter build is just a pure tinge build with enough base STR/SKL for the bloodletter, chikage and bow. If you don't want to do that I guess maybe just use a hunters axe and beast blood pellets?
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>>124435690
I just learned the rythm on the crawlstomp and dodged backwards until he got tired. Then I mashed R1 a couple times and got away.
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>there will never be a new thread
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>>124435671
The str scaling on the bloodletter only applies to the untransformed mode, so it's completely worthless. In the transformed mode it's 100% blt, just like the chikage. In other words, after 50 blt you can put points literally anywhere and your bloodletter will still be maximum efficiency.

You have more than enmough points after 40-50 vit, 10-15 end and 50 blt to toss some points in skill for the chikage.
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need help with ludwig, level 80, password: gud
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Would anyone mind helping me kill the two fellows living within the well?
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>>124435285
you still there?
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>>124435285
I'm ringing, where the shit are you senpai
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>>124435887
I'll be there
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>>124435896
Gimme a password an I'll hop down there and peck away at them
If I die just wait for me to get summoned again
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>>124435896
what level are you? password?
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>>124435932
O-oh, that wasn't you?

Someone joined me shortly after posting... I just beat her


I do need help with the DLC next though if you still want to help me.

I'm just trying to rush getting the Gatling Gun as soon as possible
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>>124435896
eat shit weeb faggot
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>>124436065
Password is pain, ringing at the lamp. Now do you mean you'll just run in alone and kill them?

>>124436070
66 and pain.
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>>124436092
That was me. I usually help ppl with Ludwig and other DLC bosses but you were around my level so I went to amelia.
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New thread

>>124436259
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>>124436208
Yeah, that's the plan
>>
NEW THREAD WHEN HOLY FUCK YOU LAZY FUKS.
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>>124436208
ringing now at grand lamp

14 female not telling
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>>124436120
Now why exactly is the Rakuyo weeb? I know it's all special snow flaky and such but weeb? I feel like I missed something. I just want to dual wield something without having to deal with the range of a tuning fork.
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>>124436351
Nigga u dumb
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>>124436330
>>124436375
I will await you both then. Thank you friends.
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>>124435932
>>124435987
I'm sorry I started the boss without you


But if you, or anyone really, want to help me out at the start of the DLC?

I just need help reaching the Gatling Gun Hunter and killing him. Then I'll play through the game again at my regular pace.

Just wanted to try using the gun as my main for fun and want it as early as I can
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So pic related are my stats.

Have I fucked up? Do I need 25 skill if I'm going bloodtinge?

Why the fuck did I go to 20 endurance?

Fuck, I feel like I should start this character again.
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>>124437612
>Fuck, I feel like I should start this character again.
You probably should., Next time, don't start noble scion. It wastes a bunch of points in arc that you'll never use and is generally really inefficient for a skilltinge build.
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>>124437612
There is nothing wrong with it besides losing 3 points by picking the wrong starting class. Just put 30 points into Vit and 30 into Blt.
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>>124437913
>>124437723
What is the best starting class for skilltinge with more of a tinge? I want to do bowblade but don't wanna fuck it up that bad.
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>>124438606
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com/

Professional or Lone survivor for 50/20/10/25/50/-
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>>124432829
>No need to be jealous.
Your character looks like the character creator version of someone who's just starting to learn to draw and trying to draw an attractive woman.
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>>124432670
Shes laying with her head on the ground, crying. The water in the Altar of Despair is her tears. When you get her to second phase in the fight she is surrounded by a field of misty energy that damages you. This is the arias described in the Rosmarinus, arias being related to Great Ones. The final line in the description of the Rosmarinus "Oh fair maiden, why is it that you weep?" Why is Ebrietas crying?
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>>124439256
Thanks.
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>>124435312
>>124435523

Thanks for the advice.
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>>124439256

No need to be jealous.
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Damn, made it to level 53 but I;m getting 3shot by Ludwig.
Was hoping I could save a few bosses for bowblade but I guess it'll be a NG+ thing. Do you think 60 is high enough?
Should I cap out 40 skill or 35 vgr? Using BoM
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how new is dlc lads?
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>>124431502
Get a better internet connection. Stop blaming others for your problems.
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