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>Guild
The guild is being 100% purged probably on the 9th in preparation for the new league. More details in this and the next thread.

>Tempest & Warbands info
http://nembibi.com/

>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/2a5WBcBP

>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/

>Read this before asking for build advice
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/510084

>2.0 Passive Skill Tree
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree

>Offline Skill Tree Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases

>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

>Delete This
https://github.com/ben-wallis/Filtration
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Nth for excited for 2.1.0!

Pic related me and catposter excited for 2.1.0
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>>124066000
"In the arms of an angel"
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>>124066000
holy cat is a trip in another general I frequent
to explain the filename
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>>124066283
>>124066153
>>124066000
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

DUMB
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>>124066353
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>catlovers

Enjoy your T. gondii fuckbois
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whats the deal with asians and atziri?
>every single asian streamer farms her 24/7
>the only two asian friends i have are always farming uber sets
>people selling disfavors always have asian-y names
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>>124067779
asians play nothing but shitcore standard and farm all day with some super mf build

something about asians that draws them to the most jewish style of play
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>10 frenzy charge IR viper strike build

>viper strike > melee splash > melee phys > void manipulation > rapid decay

use bloodrage and darkrays for frenzy charges
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>>124067905
>jewish style

More like conveyor belt style :^)
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Does any build aside from maybe archers use the second weapon option?
Are there any builds that actually use more than one attack?
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>>124065825
next thursday
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>>124066395
>>124066283
>>124066153
>>124066000
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>>124067942

>melee splash
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>>124069486
most attack based builds can utilitize a weapon swap for single target or aoe damage.
I did that for my groudslammer. had a marohi for aoe and a similar dps rare mace in the swap for singletarget moltenstrikes.
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Would it really be much of a mistake as a marauder to get the ele resist from the bandits in normal, instead of the life? I mean, 40 life is not that much in the long run even with +life% nodes, while the resist keeps being relevant.
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>>124070170
>40 life is not that much in the long run

it's literally like 300hp
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>>124069823
not sure what else to use

there's no good aoe option for that build
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>>124070223
>300hp
No its not. That would take over +600% max health from the tree/gear.
People get 200% tops. Its more like 100hp.
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>>124070170
>while the resist keeps being relevant.

no it fucking doesnt

eventually you get so much resist from your gear that it becomes useless. nice wasted bandit choice
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>>124070771
>People get 200% tops

hello softcore
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>>124070771
200% would be 120hp

retard softcore player fuck off
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>>124071134
>>124071564
melee faggots got butthurt
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>>124072046
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>>124071134
>>124071564
It hasnt been necessary to get over 175% in hardcore since lockstep was introduced.
Maybe you two should git gud.
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>picking bandit for min-maxing reasons
>not roll playing and picking whom to help accordingly
fuking casuls
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>>124071564
>>124071134
>mfw have a 92 darkshrine hc character and a 93 tempest hc character and both are a little bit over 150% hp
lmao you guys must be pretty shit at the game
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>>124072458
post proof including character/account names

also passive tree
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>>124072541
so you can spam me with butthurt shit? lmao stay mad faggot, there's several people with the same stats just look online retard
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>>124072672
just post it you insecure fag lol
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Speaking of bandits. The normal bandit rewards are very nice. Stuff that you cannot simply get from 1 skill point on a tree or on a jewel, not super important or build enabling, just how it should be for normal. Merciless too is really fitting. By far the best rewards, they enable builds and are very strong boosts to what you're playing. Why the fuck is cruel rewards such pantsu on head retarded horseshit? All of that shit can easily be rolled on jewels or from a single node on the tree depending on your class(for example ranger with the starter 8% AS node) and the skill point gives you the flexibility as well.

Why is cruel in general so shit tier and pointless garbage? REMOVE CRUEL.
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>>124073125
Cruel might disappear one day once couple more acts are finished.

Just look at what happened to ruthless.
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>>124072458
you can get to 92 easy running shit maps and dried lake.
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>>124074130
You're talking like the people that grind to 100 run the actual end game content and not the easiest of the high mid-tier maps while skipping anything challenging whatsoever. And they still fucking die all the time.

And to the rest of the faggots in this stupid post chain, the amount of maximum life % is heavily dependent on your own build and to a lesser extend whether you play in a party or not. Stop being retarded, there is no "200% mininum benchmark or you're softcore lel" benchmark or any of that. At the same time, just a bit over 150%, there's very few builds that could do that for high end content.
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>>124074980
How many level 100s are there in hardcore anyway? Do we have access to data like that?
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REMINDER

>Guild
The guild is being 100% purged probably on the 9th in preparation for the new league. More details in this and the next thread.
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>>124075423
just... look at the ladders, you mong? 20 100's in darkshrine HC, right now.
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>>124075825
Didn't know there are ladders.
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New player here
What's a fun Templar build?
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>>124077270
dual incinerate totem
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>>124077270
>pee oh ee
>fun
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>>124077270
The standard race build

otherwise reroll a good class
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>>124074980
>not the easiest of the high mid-tier maps

rofl it's clear you have never played this game past 96 or so. Mid tier maps give absolute shit XP, anything below 80 sucks.
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>>124077270
firestorm
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gieb new league already
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Are there any good places to find fanart for this game?
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>>124081759
There really isn't any
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>>124082496
there is some good r34 stuff

mostly atziri
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>>124084473
>good
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>>124084473
No there isn't, just the Joe Duncan ones but they're basically sketches
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what about fucked up knees girl?

is cosplay fanart?
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>>124085650
deactivate desu senpai
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**GARENA CIS PLAYER THERE**
ask ur answers
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>>124086159
>**
this isn't sosach, my russian friend)))))))
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>>124088559
I THINK U %%PIDORAS%%
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>>124088641
>Bы пoгибли 123 paз.
no u))))))
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im new to arpgs, any other good games? is van helsing good?
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>>124088764
go on ur kokor, unhuman
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>>124088954
nope.
%%poe>shit>mocha>daesh>moderator>diablo3>ur mom>van helsing%%
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>>124089148
why?
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>>124089281
cose its poe thread, pease of shiter
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>>124086159
>ask ur answers
I lafd.
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>>124089010
is this how you russians call hardkek league? ebin, we have to adopt this mene
took me a second to get it though

t. russian learner
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>>124089563
**WHAT WHAT U SAY???//**
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>>124089608
>is this how you russians call hardkek league?
YEA %%DA%%
>ebin, we have to adopt this mene
yes, i know it
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This is the best the thread has been in nearly a year
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>>124090201
hi anime
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>>124090075
omy gosh its a dead thread on dead game
lets go on sosach, there has been not dead %%alive%% thread
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>>124090201
hi anime
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>>124090201
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>>124085650
>girl

got some bad news for you
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>>124090314
better bring more sosach menes here
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>>124090462
>those hieroglyphs

this is an AMERICAN image board
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>>124090492
is it anime thread?
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>>124090680
oh realy? i think its moon imageboard
>>124090667
other later
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on this pic we can see a god of path of exile%%(no)%%
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hm..bump?
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new player here

should i start on the darkshrine league or normal since a new league is starting next week
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>>124092658
yes you can
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>>124092658
It doesn't matter really, but since you're new maybe you'd prefer not to have the league to think about while you learn the basics.

When the league ends your character and your stashes are transfered to standard anyway.
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>>124093090
>When the league ends your character and your stashes are transfered to standard anyway.

>admitting to playing shitcore
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>>124093169
What? I assumed the poster was thinking about the normal league, not the hardcore one.

If you do play on the hardcore one, your character and tabs are transfered to hardcore.

Why were you even so hostile?
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>>124093345
the typical chickencorer is extremely insecure about xhis choices in this game so xhe needs to constantly tell xhimself xhe chose the right playstyle
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>>124094541
Hey, sure man...
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>>124094541
dont bully esk
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more memes
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>>124095194
when i kill a meme it stays dead.
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>>124095194
lost pic
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New poison support gem where? ;_;
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>>124095369
>Hi, I'm Chris Wilson from Grinding Gear Games.
>To incentivise the usage of Viper Strike skill gem as well as existing uniques such as Mortem Morsu, we decided not to include the Poison support gem in the game.
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>>124074980
>>124074130
You don't get 100 by alching and doing very hard maps.

You get 100 by transmuting and having like 90-100 IIQ from gear. They usually skip hard bosses as well as the reward isn't worth a potential rip.

>>124075423
92 in regular hardcore about 20 in darkshire, though darkshire is easier than regular due to lel +500% xp and how easy it is to gain stacks of high tier maps. But in regular hardcore you have access to some pretty OP'd legacy items, too bad trading is hard in regular hardcore since not a lot of people play it. Same for challenge league hardcore, there are a lot less items overall compared to standard.

>>124080039
Meh 80+ are not sustainable even if you alch pack size on them all and have high iiq. It's a lot easier now since now you can run 77-79s easily without ever running out just by transmuting and ocassionally receive 80+ maps.

Most players in hardcore just skip bosses like Core Malachai.
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TREE?
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>>124099742
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee8NvgURCZs#t=48s

>waiting for 2.1.mp4
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ded desu
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>>124103374
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> tfw darkshire feels dead
> go to regular hardcore
> feels even more dead, can't even find 300 dps 1h mace on poe.trade of people that are online (and haven't just let their shop up for 9 months and never logged in again).
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>>124103664
>implying this game has a hardcore playerbase

l m a o
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hourly shitpost quota
is anyone even going to bother with bladefall?
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>>124106157
>>124046639
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>>124106157
depends on how much str and block i can get from the new tree
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>>124106157
single target for my vb build and It may become more than that if it turns out to be insane (which I think it will)
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SCION IS CUTE
CUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>124109173
traps usually are
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blast rain looks like shit though
is anyone gonna bother trying to make a siege ballista totem build?
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>when you meme too hard in global chat
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>>124109829
Why would they when the unique that specifically supports this is not gonna be around until Ascendancy? Blast Rain is okay depending how many projectile fires each time. If it fires 5x then it's 200% damage every time and since it is guarantee to overlap on the casting location.
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>>124109927
>having global chat open at all

normies
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>>124111394
what else am i gonna do? i've lost all will to play this game
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>>124111606
closing the game might be a good start
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>>124111831
no way
i have to wait another 2 hours anyway
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>buttmaster crafting
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>>124113304
So, is devilian out yet?
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How to fix the trading system.

Add an action house but with buyout option only available for currency items.

Further add a Mail service that allows people to trade remotely, but still only if both are logged in. (aka you name a price and if your trading partner wants to take the item out of the mail he has to fill in named price first. Also could cost some lower tier orbs depending on the items rarity)
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>>124114562
LITERALLY just started playing it now
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>>124115182
Damn that looks ugly.
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>>124115182
i'd rather play rift
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>>124116165
it's easy as fuck so far and you can't do anything without spending money
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>>124115182
Y-you can be a kawaii rori in it?
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>>124116514
>you can't do anything without spending money
Based trion
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>>124116575
That's not kawaii and not a rori.
That's a smashed up midget hag who also happens to have dwarfism.
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Do Projectile supports just work for all Bow skills even without the projectile tags?
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already bored of devilian lel
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>>124117317
Oh never mind, it's projectile or bow keyword. Knew I should've read the wiki.
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EIGHT

FUCKING

DAYS
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>>124119112
well do something productive with your life until then, dumb catposter
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>>124115182
>adult legs on child torso

asian char design
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>>124119253
>doing anything productive
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For some chaos I can teach you a bunch of obscure brazilian memes so you can shitpost on global chat and chimp out with the rest of hues.
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Is that d2 fag still around? I can't for the life of me find an eastern sun closed realm.
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just found out your ES can recharge even in no regen maps haha epic

i'm 100% playing a CI ZO contagion build in HC talisman now haha
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>>124122892
There's a difference between regen and recharge you mongoloid

ZO aint gonna shit for ya
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friendly reminder to use exalted recipe when you reach 74+ maps

friendly reminder you can buy trash uniques for 1 fuse each to make eternal orbs from recipe
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Why does RAT have an additional -50% LESS penalty in addition to 30% LESS attack speed compared to Spell Totem?
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>>124123027
good post
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When that crisis hit us, hit the whole general and the game started to crumble and it started crumbling at its weakest link. Of course the weakest link being Chickencorers.

I'm not saying there is something fundamentally wrong with playing "harcore", what I am saying is that this particular approach to the game was always going to start disintegrating after the great disaster of 2.0 and had GGG pulled itself together and had gotten its act together in the last year ... we would have been in the place of where /tg/ is or /bwg/ is and we would not have been the first domino to fall but we would have been one of the first few dominos to fall.

The decision to play chickencore was an ill fated decision for every chickencore player because let's face it, they are all regretting it now.

Once you are into the chicken farm, you cannot get out but what you can do ... you can play the same cyclone or fire totem build you had 2 years ago and let the twitch streamers work out how to deal with that situation.

Temp HC leagues are a thing i would have never wanted to see into operation but now that we have it, it is essential for the global relevance of the game that we sustain it and that we fix it and we sure it up and eject cement into the foundations. Because if we don't, If we do not the Chickens will drag the rest of the game and this general in to the mire for the third time in a row.
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SO IS DEVILIAN OPEN BETA?
HOLY SHIT THIS CHANGES _EVERYTHING_
FUCK YOU CHRIS LOL GET SOME GOOD IDEAS NEXT TIME YOU DEVELOP A GAME FOR 4000 YEARS LOL
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>>124124274

>trion
>installing glyph malware (have fun trying to get rid of that)
>game made for chinks and pinoys

nope
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>>124124587
hello chris! don't take it personally, but I think your game is a piece of shit and you are, too.
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So besides Explosive Arrow and Incinerate, are there any non-melee skills that don't benefit much if at all from offensive auras?
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>chickencore meme actually caught on

im pleasantly surprised
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https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAmy1fOYrwxILpRsqQhNlHfr02ZU2-p9X4xLjBgi_MTUZi7ITv2sEFLXTteu9AoNNvRrcyTsC_rK8bl6mVDPd4DcAaqW534wHcbzs1krXy2L2mV03j_o864fJF_gqDXzwtg8xTpRynDF_Grl8_UEfvDhQgMft_4z38jM_2SFhjxFgaPvIveTl-4ikufLjPfq2N2WFXDfGsaGXzm-Is0TYJMxUgLYMZtNN-73r2oz3iSO54rhutdqzlzz0-kn33Mphv3CNqAZe0ValyqcT2ggfyQdIh2Xw53UPn5FH-VA3NK1Aczq-n_rp9dWebrj63PunV

Rate my HC reave build for talismans. Never actually played a non-RT build, but yeah. Not that much crit, but I really don't want to die. Also plan on playing into 2.2, with OPOP 100% spell block. Ideally, want to use aegis aurora + a decent 1h sword.
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>>124125085
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>>124124587
>cries about malware
>uses windows
?
>game made for chinks and pinoys
too hardcore for you?
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>>124124919

pretty much any cold-based spell
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>>124125426
fuck off trion
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>>124125548
nice retort, chris.
btw if you don't stop bumping these threads when they're about to die I'm gonna have to consider reporting you.
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>>124125669
FUCK
U
C
K

OFF
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TRION
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>>124124274
Yes, I'm playing it right now.

>>124124587
It was easy to remove after ditching archeage
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>>124125085

>poebuilder
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>tfw talisman leagues are starting soon
>tfw that means all the reddit/casual/normie scum come back to poeg and ask for advice

prepare for an onslaught of 150% life poopbuilder builds and stupid questions
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>>124127804
>>tfw that means all the reddit/casual/normie scum come back to poeg and ask for advice
>come back
WE NEVER LEFT, WE ARE LEEJUN.
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i challenge poeg to make a hc viable ele hit build
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>>124129515
>ele hit
why even bother
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>>124129607
>>124129515
actually I just realized you could use it in a windripper build instead of SA and it would just be a strictly worse version of it, the links would be ele hit - GMP - chain - BM - life leech - added cold or something like that
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Devilian sucks monkey cock, just in case you were wondering.
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Hey /poeg/ how are the races going? :^)
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>>124130794
i was bored after 15 minutes

the only thing i like about it compared to poe is the combat. your spells and attacks feel much more powerful because of the recoil or whatever you want to call it. i wish GGG did more for poe in this regard. this game is bland as fuck.
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>>124130794
could have told you that without ever playing it
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Where the fuck is the new skill tree, Chris?
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>>124132989
5 more days at least
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>sister's birthday is Saturday the 12
>have to go home that Friday for it
>the day the new leagues come out
>not going to have access to PC and won't be back until Sunday
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>>124065825
>>124099742
>>124125227
>>124132989
>yfw tree barely has any changes besides minor shadow starting adjustment
>GGG been hiding it for no reason at all
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>>124133603
>implying they aren't adding a parry keystone for dualwield builds
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>>124133603
Duelist will remain unchanged, due to GGG thinking it's the "ultimate softcore cyclone class".
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if poe is the best arpg on the market, then what does that make ggg?
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>>124133576
plenty of time to tap dat ass
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>>124133576
Why do you have to go to it?
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>>124136672
>small company lucks out
>incompetent in almost all areas
>think they know shit now because game is popular
>keep fucking up everything
where have i seen that before
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TREE
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>>124137515
t-b-h, if d3 didn't suck ass then poe would be literally nothing. i'm not sure if this was calculated by ggg but their success literally hinged on blizzard fucking up.
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NEW


TREE


WHEN
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>>124133576
post her feet
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>>124138859
>>124137837
this>>124069382
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>tfw still no build ready for the new hc league

JUST
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are you retarded?
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>>124139528
no, just autistic
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gonna post a cat picture and complain about something related to poe
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>>124139736
>still no AH
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>>124139957
>>124139736
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>124140406
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>People are going to play on Standard Talisman
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>>124141018
fucking pathetic innit
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>>124139736
Thought this thumbnail was someone pooping
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>Every single Oro Flicker Strike build I've looked up has sub 5k life.
>Claims to be HC viable.
What the fuck?
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>>124141469
Maybe if they're overcompensating on armor and using Darkrays.
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>Self-discharge build without Voll items
Can I do this and do up to Tier 14 maps?
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>>124142515
you sure like that image
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>>124133952
duelist is getting changed, they removed block chance reduction cluster, moved bleed cluster to its place and added a new unknown cluster where the bleed was
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>>124144536
>block chance reduction
>pvp
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>>124142690
I do. It's 2 memes in one. Animeposter and catposter.
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>>124144536
>added a new unknown cluster where the bleed was
some dev said it was a maim cluster
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>>124144705
very efficient anon
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>>124144758
you misheard him saying it was a meme cluster
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>>124124919
>incin doesn't benefit from offensive auras
>>
>We have been considering how to do multiple pets for a few years now. Our initial plan was to include them as a perk of a top-tier supporter pack, so that our highest supporters could show off the several extravagant pets that they have received by this point.
>We eventually decided that while this was an attractive reward, it might make more sense to make it available to more people by pricing the feature at say $10-20 and allowing anyone to buy it. This idea prompted a lot of internal discussion about selling optional cosmetic features.
>Eventually, and in the spirit of Path of Exile's monetisation, it was made available for free to everyone. Please buy all the pets ;)
why don't you have pets yet, anon?
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>>124145607
>spending money on free things
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>>124145607
i got a frog and a scorpion from the st patties day mystery boxes
still never going to use them because pets are stupid as fuck
>>
GUYS
TIME TO

TIME TO BUY

A SECOND BELL LIZARD
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>people unironically spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on a free game just so they can look cool and brag on forums

disgusting
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the way they can make money on poe is to create an auction house where we can sell our player's name. we get 90% of the profit the rest girguamesh gear gaem collects as tax.

names used to go for lots of forum gold on d2jsp back in the diablo 2 days. people will pay mad dollas for a name like god or templar or whatever. you wouldn't believe but people spend crazy amounts of money on all kinds of retarded digital shit.

and also they could build name changing into the game kinda like how support will do for you but instead it will help facilitate the name ah. and it will make reusing your names easier in new leagues as you can just change your name to your preferred name so after you buy that elite name off the ah for $10,000 you can easily reuse it ever single league you're in.

names are a big deal ggg needs money and players won't their unique snowflake name. not copying some of the important ideas that came out of d2jsp was a mistake.
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>>124146457
Disgusting, but not unexpected.
People spend ungodly amounts of money to peacock in real life too.
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I just watched The Final Girls (2015) and Chef (2014), both great movies.
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>>124146756
high five
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Paid Leagues would solve:

Botting/rmt
Stash problems
non-viable self-found Solo play
Skill balance given the econ never mixed with permaleagues

and with a separate dev team working solely for the paid players we could have:

League Exclusive AH
League Exclusive weekly events
League Exclusive Preview of all new features before they are released for freefags

paid leagues fucking when
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>>124146756
get out hans
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>>124146871
>Paid Leagues would solve:

>Botting/rmt
how
>Stash problems
how
>non-viable self-found Solo play
how
>Skill balance given the econ never mixed with permaleagues
how

>and with a separate dev team working solely for the paid players we could have:

>League Exclusive AH
why
>League Exclusive weekly events
why
>League Exclusive Preview of all new features before they are released for freefags
why

you're a fucking retard seriously
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>>124146871
nice try, but im not getting b8'd today m8
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2 W O P E T S
W
O
P
E
T
So now they just need to make Bex a pet!
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>>124147037

>Botting/rmt
>how
>Stash problems
>how

It wouldn't

>>non-viable self-found Solo play
>how

Ridiculous item rarity set by the league owner.

>League Exclusive AH
>why
>League Exclusive weekly events
>why

Because the league owners pay for them.

>League Exclusive Preview of all new features before they are released for freefags
>why

They shouldn't, this one is stupid
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honest question? devilian worth a try?
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>>124148142
nope

it's an MMO without ANY end game(literally no end game) and it's easy as fuck(literally can't die unless you're literally retarded) AND(and this is a big one) AND you have to pay money to be able to use chats(as in any chats), auction house(literally the only way to trade items), guilds, friends, storage(can't even use the free storage they give you at lvl5), and a ton of other shit.

you can try it out but don't get your hopes up. it's literally shit
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T R E E ?
R
E
E
?
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>>124149093
https://youtu.be/SozE6X7IuHs?t=89
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where is the new treeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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TREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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WHERES THE NEW TREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>124149527
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here's your tree friend
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>>124151108
thanks dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5TpUKvjCwI
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Just give us the tree
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>>124153080
Ema pleases old men for money.
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Is the /poeg/ guild good? I might join soon, my current guild is dead
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>>124154015
being reformed when league starts

of course this info wasn't put into the OP
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>>124154090
yeah I know, but has it been a good guild in the past? Decent players running high tier maps together or autistic fuckers running around doing whatever they want?
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>>124154196
yes
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>>124154196
the guild is shit. full of memespewing redditurds and finns. all the good players left
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>>124154196
They were autists trying to act socials, and literally incapable of communicating except trying to act retarded to cover their actual retardation.
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>>124157669
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>want to do low life
>calculate the advantages from PA
>only adds up to be 140% increased spell damage with good gear

wtf
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>>124154307
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>>124157963
>implying it will make a difference when the GM and all of the officers are literal redditors
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>>124157779
>good goy gaming adds a new support gem that gives ~60% MORE spell damage
>ignores PA which requires a massive investment for a measly 30% more spell damage
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>>124161210
>>
Why don't people do Puncture Builds?
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>>124161795
because it can't be used as a primary skill and people don't like having to use more than one ability
>>
I just want to be a bosskiller in a party but I don't have a party.
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>>124161936
I plan to try to make it work with the poison support gem we've been promised.
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>>124162232
viper strike would probably be better t-b-h
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http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1487491

OH SHIT IT'S HAPPENING
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>>124163959
FUCK YOU BEX WHERE IS THE TREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>124163959
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>>124163959
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>>124164901
>25k points
what the fuck is that in real money?
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NO TREE BUT WE GOT
M U L T I P E T S
U
L
T
I
P E T S
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>>124164993
2.5k
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>darkshrine was dead three weeks ago
>still a week until talisman

wew

this game is bipolar
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>>124166223
ggg's doing you a favor by not allowing you to play
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>>124144692
It is retarded as fuck.

GGG's quest to purge block from the game that is for PvP reasoning, while less than 1% of the playerbase even pvps. While a tiny percentage of players even killed Malachai on merciless in a hardcore league.

Meanwhile we have super broken incinerate and flame totems. Both are so overpowered that you wonder what the testers were thinking and you'd seriously wonder why they haven't been nerfed after 2-3 weeks of 2.0 being live they were that overpowered.

Aside from that poison arrow, explosive arrow, cyclone, summoner and SRS are broken as well.
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>>124166416
i think they're fucking with me personally
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>>124158009
>>124154307
I did ask for an invite sometime ago, nobody ever bothered to reply so I joined some high end guild that was advertised on the official forums.
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>>124125085
> aegis aurora

Goodluck buying that in any hardcore league ever for 10 ex starting, a 250 dps sword does mediocre damage. The RT will give a better damage increase than the crit does, only take the crit if you can afford decent accuracy on gear.

Put those last 15 points away, so you have a good idea what your build will look like at 80. Its better to plan it around 55-75, so that at these levels you don't die. Its much easier to die at these levels than 75+ in my experience since by then you have so much hp, armor and regen that you don't really die especially not with block.
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>There are three main tiers of Talismans. Combining five first-tier ones gives you a second tier, and combining five second-tier (i.e. 25 first-tier) gives you a third-tier one. If you're able to combine five third-tier Talismans (125 first-tier!), then you can summon a portal to fight Rigwald, the Wolven King. He drops a special type of fourth-tier Talisman

so if you kill rigvald enough times to get five different tier 4 talismans, can you sacrifice them at a stone circle to create a tier 5 talisman?
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>>124166939
no
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>>124167024
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>>124166474
Summoner is broken? In this game?
In what way exactly?
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>>124167203
In the way it's fucking unplayable because you have to find decent level spectres EVERY TIME YOU LOGOUT REEEEEEE
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>>124167250
They even nerfed Spectres indirectly twice after 2.0

Revenants lost two projectiles and all act 4 monsters lost base damage.
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i have a terrible secret

i advocated pvp back when they were looking for feedback. the fact they spent 4 months working on pvp is probably partyl my fault. i typed up a huge post talking how great pvp in d2 was and how poe should have pvp too

i-i'm sorry....
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>>124167452
now apologize for posting dumbass frogs in the thread
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>>124167452
ARPG PVPers don't want organized PVP with rules.
That is what they did wrong.

Is it your fault that they went with arenas?
>>
So the game is dying because they're focusing on pvp? Why the fuck does every arpg do that?

This is the third game that's died from focusing on pvp in a pve game.
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>>124168780
They aren't really dying.

The game has always been like this. The game just got flooded in 2.0 since everyone wanted to play Act 4, and then after a month or so it returned to its original numbers.

They just have a problem sustaining players. But it kind of makes sense, the majority doesn't play this game a lot.
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>>124168780
They dropped the PVP focus like a sack of hammers but some of the stupid choices they made still have an effect.
Game is growing steadily.
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>>124168780
game isn't really dead 2-b-h

but they spent a few months working on pvp for no good reason which put them behind schedule for more important things like the upcoming challenge leagues and expansion

pvp basically wasted everyone's time
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>launch game
>run a map
>sit in hideout for 15 minutes after

2.1 when
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>>124169459
just spent 28 regrets respeccing my build haha

i gained 560 dps

totally worth it
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>>124169007
It also skewed some balance decisions. The percentage of playerbase wanting pvp content was extremely tiny. If I want pvp I'll rather play something like League of Legends or a game that is optimized for pvp experience, not path of exile. The developpers should have realized this. The competitive aspect comes from races.

>>124168780
>>124168997
Really? I thought the game was just as popular as usual. Most players don't talk or do anything with other players in the game at all.

There's always a surge of popularity shortly after a new update or expansion and then the next 2-3 months of a league are more empty.

>>124169459
8 days and 7 hours or so. I'm more excited about the balance and tree changes they will be making as then I can make a build I'm going to play next league.
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>>124086159
>no full helmet of the tsar
Mde...
>>
fuck pvp, what were they thinking with the leech changes? why would they think anyone would bother investing passive points into more/better leech?
>>
the best thing about pvp update is that most dedicated pvpers think that pvp was better before then

shame grinding gay games dropped absolutely all pvp support though, another pvp season wouldn't hurt
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>>124137974

blizzard has not released a good game since activision took over. Even if GGG was betting on it, it was a pretty safe bet.

I fucking love GGG, the simple fact that they have publically stated "we will not cater to the casual mass, we will cater to the hardcore".

I WANT A GGG FOR RTS GAMES T.T
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>>124170086
>I fucking love GGG
go back to lebbit
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>>124170132
us jaded 4channers
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>>124167203
>>124167250
>>124167440

Summoner is still fucking fantastic. After the patch i think it'll be amazing (especially for SRS but i don't consider that a true summoner)
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>>124170086
>"we will cater to the hardcore".
>>Which is why we've forced everyone to run Cyclone builds and have killed a large portion of creativity in the game
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>>124170023
Leech is still decent in combination with regen. But regen is just way better since you don't need to deal damage and the leech rate cap isn't capped. Only on warlords mark it is decent if fighting multiple enemies. But enfeeble is a way better defensive used and just get life regen.

A lone node giving 0.8% life regen at the starting point of marauder and then a bigger node giving 1.8% regen already gives 2.6% regen from 2 nodes.

Meanwhile a life leech cluster at an awkward position on the duelist tree gives something like 0.8% leech. The life regen is infinitely better discarding that the leech can stack and works against multiple mobs. The worry of builds shouldn't be groups of enemies but rather smaller groups or single powerful monsters.

Almost every build clears groups of mobs together efficiently and fast.
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>>124170086
they aren't that great

they lie a lot and ignore a lot of issues
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>>124170132

b-b-but i like shitting up the 4chans and muh webms
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>>124169746
go on "dvoryanka" Cyka
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>>124137515
What did GGG ''fuck up'' so far? Almost all of their major releases except for pvp made me excited to play again. There are not many games where I put in 300-400 hours of playtime in and still discover new things.

>>124170272
Why? Just run lightning strike or ice crash if you want a different melee build you can even make dual strike work, you're just not building well enough. There will always be builds that are more efficient than others. Incinerate is pure cheese mode though, even more powerful than pre 2.0 flameblast but flameblast was powerful due to it being somewhat fail proof of desync.

>>124170086
Somewhere around when they merged they also turned WoW into shit with dungeon finder menus, trial of the crusader, gated content of icecrown citadel and multiple difficulty crap. The casualization and killing of community started at Wrath. Though 10 and 25 man raids were a brilliant idea overall, multiple difficulties and menus for dungeon finders etc killed it.

It also became a game where you'd be looking at a next patch instead of catching up, and also a game where there is no social aspect anymore... but its a MMO. The lelling process also was made extremely easy after Wrath it seemed the devs didn't care about low level balance and made levelling extremely easy for every class.
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>>124170293
Its better to ignore issues than to actively keep changing it every 2 weeks or so.

Haven't really seen GGG lie about anything.
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>>124170887
jesus christ
>>
> people levelling to 100 in 130 hours of playtime
> 98 to 100 in one session

http://i.imgur.com/vSD7VJm.jpg

What a fucking horseshit. Vaal Spark is so broken it clears every map if you just run around with it.
>>
>tfw ggg is fucking retarded
>they're not competent at their jobs
>they're terrible at PR and building hype

...

>they're still probably top 10% in game devs because the average one is completely braindead
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>>124170795
>flameblast was powerful due to it being somewhat fail proof of desync

why are you even posting when you have no idea what you're talking about
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>>124169578
Haha
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>>124171424
he had crazy gear and good maps though

vspark is kind of retarded but you need an insane amount of investment to make it work
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>>124171424
>tfw I'm fucking trash
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>>124172180
conveniently ignoring the fact they started taking our money almost 5 years ago and have only solved one(1) of the major issues with the game(desync) but that solution(lockstep) ended up causing more problems than it solved

i could continue listing things but i don't feel like playing shitpost olympics with you
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>>124172804
I acknowledge that.

I'm simply stating that the average dev makes GGG look decent.
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>>124172683
>dying in poe
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>>124170795
You're so fucking stupid. I know it's bait but you're a stupid fucking person.
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>Tfw wasted hours making your hideout comfy.
I wish they kept the hideout layout on new leagues.
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>>124173282
if it has more decorations it will u tard
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>>124173316
>on new leagues
>>
What is happening? Where did this GGG defense brigade come from?

>>124173316
Re-read, you drooling retard.
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>>124173402
>>124173432
>for new leagues*
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>>124173282
>GRINDING gear games
You have to grind ALL THE THINGS, all of the times.
That's the point.
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>>124173651
>grinding GEAR games
You have to grind GEAR, not fucking decorations.
That's the point
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>>124173870
Well Chris did say they will make something like that happen. Soon...

I would love it if they reduce the cost of decorations and have the points from masters gather in a single pool.

Would be easier to make themed decorations that way. Owell.
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havent decorated a hideout since they first came out honestly... and it was a shit hideout(pic related)

decorating is gay honestly
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>>124174871
so you're a faggot with no sense of style. anything new anon ?
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D
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>>124183503
alive gaem
alive thread
fuck off
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new
tree
when
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>>124183764
Never, have a trailer for some new pet skins
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>>124185330
I like how it says FREE as if you were expected to pay for the shipping yourself.
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Ded game t'b'h'
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>>124166893
If that's the case, then I'll just remove all the crit and accuracy and just spec into RT.
Something like this:https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAmy1fOYrwxILpRsqQhNlHfr02ZU2-p9X4xLjBgi_MTUZi7ITv2sEFLXTteu9AoNNvRrcyTsC_rK8bl6mVDPd4DcAaqW534wHcbzs1krXy2L2mV03j_o864fJF_gqDXzwtg8xTpRynDF_Grl8_UEfvDhQgPfyMz_ZIWGPEWBo-8i95OX7iKS58uM9-rY3ZYVcN8axoZfOb4izRNgkzFSAtgxm0dqz3MmoBl7RVqXKpxPaCB_JB0iHZfDndQ-fkUf5UDc0rUBzOr6dnm64-tz7p1XzZ

Aegis Aurora is probably going to be something I pick up much later or chance/drop myself. It doesn't necessarily rely on it, and just serves to make myself unkillable in all but the strongest 1 shot potential. Problems with this build I can see from here is that I don't really want to dodge, but not sure how I can fit in Unwavering Stance, even though it is a few nodes away, because if I do get it, it doesn't make much sense not to get the Life cluster and Armor cluster right next to it.
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>>124186661
>poebuilder
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>>124186661
Additionally, this tree https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAmy1fOYrw6UbKkITZR369NmVNvqfBgi_MTUZi7ITv2sEFLXTteu9AoNNvRrcyTsC_rK8bl6mVDPd4DcAaqW534wHcbzs1krXy2L2mV03j_o864fJF_gqDXzwtg8xTpRynDF_Grl8_UEfvDhQgPfyMz_ZIWGPEWBo-8i95OX7iKS58uM9-rY3ZYVcN8axoZfOb4izRNgkzFSAtgxm0037vevajPeJI7niuG612rOXPPT6SffcymG_cI2oBl7RVqXKpxPaCB_JB0iHZfDndQ-fkUf66fXVnm64-tz7p1Z_LpzCkGbYsJd8b-gHnGJG8n_xLFE2ezQ== is what I'm going to be aiming for, the last ~15 nodes towards the ranger tree being what I put in last. I'm considering if it is even worth heading to that area, since I only get ~8% life, 9 block, 8% attack speed, a bit of accuracy, and 40% increased damage, along with some defense onto my shield. Maybe heading up towards the Templar tree will be better, but I'm not convinced.
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>>124187062
she's clearly not croat
a true croatian wouldn't be at the match or would be celebrating getting slammed by mexico

she's probably a fucking "american croat" or some shit.
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>>124187062
why not?
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are you retarded?
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>>124190959
filtered
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>>124172420
True. He ran a support build along with someone who already had GG gear. So they cleared super fast due to that I guess.

>>124172683
My highest hardcore char is 89 and has 4 days played but a lot of that was afk or trading, or having my screen open while reading the wiki or forums.

80-90 takes probably about the same time as 1-80 took me, I levelled a melee so no flame blast and act 4 was new so the char also put a lot of time into act 4 (was tempest league).
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>>124186661
>>124187634
I was the guy who originally made the post. I have something very similar but I'm using ice crash.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwQAAecEswUtBjkLYQxfDPcNzRQgFE0U9hXsGJEaPhpVG5ccpxzOITQrUC_MMk41kjboOzs8BTwtPQ89_ECgQT9GaUd-TUZQR1FgUeZTpVcNWGNfP2EhYuxlTWjycql07Xasd1N5OXrvfNl-4oIHgpuDX4PMhNmE74Y7hymK8IzPmjuexZ7Nn9-iAKcwqZWsr62Nr2yvp7Qvtz65HbyfvTa-p8BmwL_BgsQVxPbGrsqQz37SIdi92WHaweRR6Ubp1eoY7w7vfPAf8i_yQfMG9kj3Mvuq_Ev-Cv5U_o8=?accountName=Sogolon&characterName=PridefullReaper

The main problem your build will have is that it lacks damage. Therefore it will lack some speed clear time. I have quite a bit of offensive nodes and with a bringer of rain (with blood magic and 3 auras, hatred, herald of ash and arctic armor) + 285 dps mace I still have only 20k dps, and most of it from auras and elemental.

Problem with builds like these is that you forget that dealing damage is also damage mitigation.

It's quite hard to die with my build that has 60% block, 11000 armor 2k evasion. I also have enfeeble just in case and if I'm really worried about a particular boss I can take out a gem and put in fortify. Fortify + enfeeble alone give amazing mitigation.

The biggest problem with shield builds such as yours is that you will be lacking damage.

I also suggest picking up a bringer of rain early in the league they often aren't that expensive only around 1 ex and they increase damage a lot. Even with the block nerf its an amazing item for shield builds especially if you can't afford a 6 L. Otherwise obviously a 6 linked chest with 2-2.5k armor would be better.
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>>124197254
Interesting build. I question whether dodge on a block based build is a correct decision. I like the idea of using curse on hit with Tempest Shield/Reckoning, and dodge prevents a bit of that, but I guess whatever works. Personally, I like physical damage only, since I feel that elemental damage is really artificial, given at the percentage of mobs that have elemental resists, which is why I try and stay away from abilities like Ice Crash. Of course it will be expensive getting appropriate gear, but since my passive tree is so defensive, wouldn't I be able to compensate by running more offensive gear, especially in the ring slots? I haven't really run into problems with running lower (comparative) dps builds. My greatest concerns aren't really rushing through content, but rather preventing 1 shots, staying alive through random laggy moments, and surviving extremely unlucky reverse lottery situations.

I never really had hardcore characters live past 80, so I really want a character that can potentially push to 100.
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You can't say tree without reeeeeeeeee
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I'm really excited at the prospects of talismans, though I'm not sure at whether I would use them on my build or not. Stone of Lazhwar and eventually The Anvil (for 100% spell block) when Ascension hits are probably what I will roll around in. Unless there is a talismen with properties that greatly benfit block, I can't see how much I would use them.

However, for most other builds, they seem to be extremely strong. I can easily see T3 tally have properties such as take X% of physical damage as Elemental, and perhaps there are stronger properties not yet hinted at. Them not being able to be crafted is interesting as well, and if you find a GGG one, it can't even be mirrored. Very well thought out, though sure to be expensive without lots of luck.
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DW Essentia Sanguis Ascendancy secret OP
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>>124200013
Anvil gives +3 to max block, which would at best put spell block to 78. Where do you get 100%?
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>>124163959
who needs mercenaries when you can have functionless paid pets instead!
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Buying tree
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>>124198786
I just have it because of bringer of rain (evasion).

Its not worth it.

Yes elemental damage like ice crash is a bit iffy, if I run frostbite it deals a lot of damage but otherwise it is meh. Then again ice crash deals 150-184% of physical damage but ground slam 85-104% but is slightly faster. Problem with elemental damage on melee like the ones from auras (hatred, herald of ash) is that sometimes it gives a huge damage increase such as when I use a frostbite curse on something with low cold resistance but at other times it doesn't do that much. Though the penetration is very noticeable in damage increase.

No you don't really compensate by running more offensive gear like a death rush in the ring slots. Your base damage will just stay low.

At 85+ survivability becomes less of a worry and clear speed more. You'll be doing quite a bit of crappy tier 7-10 maps where you won't even be taking any damage. The biggest worry is running rip tier mods which is how most people manage to get 90+ characters killed (to sustain high level maps). Or by lagging / dcing. With 600 hp regen, 11k armor, 7k life and 60% block I'm not really worried about any non bosses killing me with 2 blue mods.

Also consider getting increased item quantity on gear. On rings, gloves etc. At high level mapping, increased quantity is the stat that gives more items and thus bigger chance to receive more maps. You can get 80 iiq from gear quite easily. It massively helps with sustaining a map pool. As if you run a regular alched map you usually have just about 60-70 increased item quantity depending on the mods. So it really does help.

My char has lots of room for improvement currently though.

The best way to avoid random one shots or unlucky moments is to avoid running maps with the following thing:

-% elemental resistances
vulnerability
2 increased damages (increased lightning + increased cold for example)
no life regen
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>>124202946
He means 100% conversion making the block conversion from stone of lahzwar not needed anymore.

Though I'll doubt those ascendancy trees will go live they're way too overpowered and will cause GGG to even buff mobs more since now you have some characters with permanent fortify or double base armor from chests and 1000 accuracy.

Not quite sure why people said Marauder passives are weak. Get 2500 armor chest -> 5000. Get 250% armor and you have 17.5k armor just from chest. You can easily get unflasked 22k armor like that with a 2handed build along with the 1000 accurracy it's overpowered as fuck.
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>>124167452
diablo 2 style pvp was awesome

>open world just step out of town and boom your pvping
>can hostile a whole public group of players from town and hunt them down in game and kill them
>can harass bots
>when you kill someone their body drops
>when you kill someone gold drops
>when you kill someone their ear drops with their name on it and you can keep it as a souvenir in your inventory
>when you kill someone in hardcore they stay dead and you can keep their loot

they were going to add a guild system and probably would have made for some ebig gvg pvp battles but sadly it all fell apart.

ggg cares more about pandering to redditards these days than making the dream arpg. that's what i got on board for back in 2011 when i first heard about this game and been following it through development ever since. about the time they started listening to reddit is when this game seems to have undergone a catastrophic philosophical shift away from hardcore dream arpg into mega casual arpg with tacked on hardcore mode. they have to appeal to the masses of redditards now and there's no getting around it. game is slowly turning into farmville 2.0. each time they try and make a change to say, "see guise we still hardcore" all this means is they're making some new bullshit broken game mechanic since they've changed the foundation of their game too much for it to matter.
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>>124203641
But you're also ignoring the fact that if you're ascended, the mobs can also get new toys to play with the new content. Imagine Ascended Rogue Exiles that have also survived the trials before.
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>>124203278
Also avoid harder map bosses especially in combination of the above mods. Elemental weakness also need to be avoided if you can't get the resistances somehow.

A lot of maps feature some bosses that are totally not worth it.
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>>124203813
Yes I purposefully did that.

The problem with this is, that some classes are getting massive increases in survivability and others are well not getting that. If GGG adjusts damages so its appropiate for classes that have all these tanky options available, you can expect damage from monsters to be even more spiky against classes that don't have these options.

I'm not really sure if people are looking forward to that. Because there will be a large gap in survivability.
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>>124203668
People aren't going to pvp like that in hardcore.

Act 4 was pretty sweet at release. I also thought it was quite balanced and not as super overpowered as people made it out to be except for rakango's and pre first nerf Malachai (his later nerfs were not necesarry imo). Piety just had a slight problem that for some dumb reason they made her laser speed the same in normal as in merciless, but people in normal sometimes don't have movement speed boots at that fight. Thus making the fight harder in normal than merciless in some cases.

They just had to increase difficulty of the previous act so the most difficult things you encounter in act 1-3 aren't just Brutus + Dominus.
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>>124203278
I completely understand that reasoning, but even though the game is relatively easy 99% of the time, what kills most of my chars is that 1%, the random spike in difficulty. Whether it is getting gimped by an extremely unlikely mechanic, to an exile popping up and ganking me, or a super boss double crit, I want to prepare for that 1%, not the 99%, if that makes any sense. Speed isn't really something I worry about, and as long as this game doesn't have true enrage mechanics, I will probably always prioritize defense within reason.
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>>124205652
>People aren't going to pvp like that in hardcore
Just like they didn't in Diablo 2, oh wait.....

People don't pvp because it's not a natural part of the game like it was in Diablo 1 and 2. Nobody wants to stop what they're doing and aimlessly go to some arena. And there's nothing interesting about pvp in PoE like there was in Diablo 2 with ears, gold drops, body drops, hostile, etc. It's totally sterile pvp. It's telling that bandit pk and cut-throat race events were the only remotely popular form of pvp ever in PoE.
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Send help
What build to play in Talisman
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open world pvp won't work in PoE, but for a completely different reason and that is broken mechanics of some skills, the main offender being explosive arrow with its unavoidable damage
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>>124207009
Diablo 2 had auto lock on hit fist of the heavens, trap sins who could stunlock you with mindblast while automatically hitting you with traps, teleport namelock/stunlock, guided arrows that literally follow a player around a screen, hammerdins who could fill an entire screen with hammers, etc.

It's better when it's up to the community to make their own meta out of it rather than try and balance it. Let the community decide how to handle imbalanced shit such as simply not playing with people who use broken skills, mocking players who do and accept the fact that griefing exists and it's a necessary part of the game.

It's the ASSFAGGOTS retards who ruined pvp
>waaaaaah everything has to be 50/50 or it's not fun

faggot kill yourself
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>>124186661
>>124187634

>poebuilder
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>>124206540
one of the new ones, or vaal spark unless they nerf it (they will)
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>>124207904
but the current meta in hld pvp is that you either play EA or you lose, you retarded cocksucker, and making pvp open world wouldn't change a thing about it
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>>124208451
Arena pvp isn't comparable to Diablo 2 style pvp. Apples to oranges.

In Diablo 2 people who did organized pvp it was common to do class vs class or class and build vs class and build like barb vs barb or smiter vs smiter.

Besides this, nobody pvps in PoE there';s not enough to form an opinion about it.

And again, even if EA always wins, that doesn't mean people are only going to use EA. There's something called pride in killing somebody with other skills it's one of the best parts of pvp you retarded little shit.
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>>124208841
>your opponent uses a high burst damage skill with unblockable and undodgeable damage, while having 10k life and staying at a safe range
>just b urself bro, use any skill you like, everyone's a winner


>I don't pvp
>this means nobody pvps and there's no meta
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>>124207904
>such as simply not playing with people who use broken skills
>we're only going to PvP with subjectively defined opinions on what's OP and what's not, and somehow our arbitrariness gives legitimacy on what people can and should play.
This sounds awfully autistic to me. For people who enjoy it, fine. You have your silly arena to dick around with. I would hate for them to give more resources to this retardation.
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>>124209312
>pop ruby flask and become nearly invincible
>have some max fire res gear in stash just like sorbing in Diablo 2
>being this big of an ASSFAGGOTS mongoloid with no concept of Diablo 2 style pvp

seriously just end yourself you're worthless.

Only retards pvp in PoE right now because it's not fun plain and simple. There could be a million counters to EA in pvp and you'd never know it because anybody with a brain doesn't pvp in poe because it's shit.

The engine is shit so the game feels clunky
There's no compelling pvp modes such as cut-throat or Diablo 2 style pvp

The game is shit and only shitters with broken gear pvp all of five of you, all of whom are eternal supporters.
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>>124209481
>I would hate for them to give more resources to this retardation
Exactly the redditard mindset that ruined PoE. Enjoy your forever dead and shit game, retard. At this point all PoE is is a shittier version of Diablo 3. Everybody uses the same skills the build system is just convoluted trash, the gameplay is clunkier and the graphics and music are shit. At least in D3 there's some kind of actual competitive meta built into the game. Fuck you retards I'm outta here.
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>pvp
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>>124209614
>what is fire pen

but even if fire pen didn't exist
>just get ruby flasks so you'll be able to get 3.5s*2 uses*5 flask slots = 35 seconds of 40% less damage taken
>each round lasts 1:30 and there's at least 4 of them

face it, you're just absolutely retarded
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We should get the 5 people who actually play PvP to join the discussion.
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>>124209965
>Everybody uses the same skills the build system is just convoluted trash
You just said your circlejerking friends would not PvP with imbalanced skill based on your stupid ass' whim. How is that for homogeneity? Just fuck off with your stupidity. Go make a thread for /arpgg/ and contain your autism there and stop getting assblasted about the whole thing.
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>>124210625
I only play lld

t. frogposter
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>>124210206
>each round
rounds are for retards. the element of surprise is a formidable advantage which is why builds other than your retard tier EA works in non retard tier pvp such as open world griefing and ganking. you can buttfuck somebody before they have a chance.

it's not supposed to be balanced you shit eating retard. it's all about adding some flavor to the game. not just mindlessly grinding maps forever. somebody might pop into your game and hunt you down. you always going to use EA? can't always use the best pvp skill

also there are items like rise of the phoenix. you can stack max fire res high enough to mitigate anything.

>face it, you're just absolutely retarded

there were completely broken skills in Diablo 2 pvp. Face it your shit a eating ASSAFAGGOTS player who thinks you have to use the one broken skill. you are the cancer killing video games. end yourself retard.
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>>124210703
>defending no real pvp in poe
i remember poeg when everyone would argue for cutthroat now the game attracted the mega casual wow/lol crowd. it's over i'm only here to shit on you now.
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>>124210758
>It's not supposed to be balanced!
>b-but if it's not, me and my friends won't play with you! boo, he's playing EA! let's mock him until he changes his build!

also
>muh max fire res
lvl20 fire pen removes 37%, RotP gives 8%, do the math yourself and see how much % less damage taken is that

>rounds are for retards.
so you're going to portal out every 30 seconds to refill your precious ruby flasks which don't do shit because fire pen? ebin groundbreaking PoE pvp strats, my man
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>>124210952
>shit on you now
Boohoo, implying anyone right now is actually playing. The only thing you're doing here isn't shitting, you're still just being maximum asshurt that the game didn't go the way you want. You're just as retarded as that faggot Charan, except you aren't even rich enough to splerg like he did.

That just makes you a poor, assblasted autist, who's posting on an anonymous board thinking your opinion's even worth a single speck of dust of weight. Just how fucking lonely and worthless as a human being that you have to do this here? Fuck off before you embarrass yourself even further.
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>>124211423
you're obviously a completely retarded ASSFAGGOTS player who thinks balance has fuck all to do with it.

and besides this they could simply make some shit work at a reduced effectiveness against players just like they did in Diablo 2 it's not hard it's only retards like you who thinks pvp has to be a 50/50 balanced segregated game mode while ignoring the fact that balance has nothing to do with it.

>>124211437
whatever you say reddit. your game sucks. it's more fun shitting on you than playing your shitty casual game.
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Why do people use Devoto's instead of Alpha's for Mjolner when Alpha's gives you easy 100% fire res?
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>>124211842
Keep crying froggie, REEE harder.
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>>124211989
I don't know. Maybe they want to deal damage?
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>>124210758
forgot about
>you can buttfuck somebody before they have a chance.
or their cwdt+frost wall sets off, blocks you and they shoot a fuckload of EAs exploding in less than half a second at it, killing you before you can even get away
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>>124212129
yes there are many things you could do but in any given scenario you will only have what's available to you unlike balanced pvp where you gear towards being pvp alone players are going to maximize the imbalances to the best of their ability.

this is why arena pvp is retarded you have to homogenize and sterilize everything so you retarded ASSFAGGOTS retarded shit eaters don't cry about balance.

in diablo 2 pvp it's supposed to be imbalanced the whole point is it's not fair you're doing it to take shit from other players, to kill them, to end them. not to respawn and use your ebig rng hit skills to win.
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How much is the new tree expected to change? Will it restructure it entirely, or just add some new nodes and then reballance the existing ones wiht an up- or downgrade of 1% or 2?
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>>124212456
Nobody knows unless you work for GGG.
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>>124212456
from what we've seen it looks like shadow and duelist will be hit hardest
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>>124212358
>g-guys EA is totally balanced in pvp, believe me! t. doesn't play pvp
>b-but it's not about balance anyway! it's about killing other people! disregard what I said earlier about avoiding people using OP skills!

and last pvp balance patch was before pvp season 2 if i remember correctly, so it's currently completely unbalanced, just as you like it
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>>124212583
Well, I haven't been around for any other tree changes so I guess there would be some people able to make an educated guess.
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>>124213180
ranger and shadow area reworked with a few changes in other places
though values of other things might change even if the placement stays the same
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>>124213180
It seems big enough to warrant a tree reset, so big enough? I hate those these tease shit that they do, I would trust anything until you actually see the new tree yourself. Planning skill at this point's completely pointless.
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>>124212928
>keep referring to pvp as needing to be a balanced esports event rather than the form of pvp actually being discussed where balance isn't a matter at all

literally retarded twitch/ASSFAGGOTS culture ruining gaming. this is why we can't have nice things.

you have absolutely zero concept of attacking players outside of competitive arena. it's not supposed to be competitive retard.


and what I said about using OP skills stands. they could easily mitigate damage versus players just like they did in Diablo 2 so that pen only works at a reduced effectiveness just like in Diablo 2 it's not hard in any way as it only applies to players it's as easy as can be.

but that's not even necessary as generally pvp will occur with whatever you have on you. unlike arena pvp you won't be gearing for pvp you will be gearing to clear maps and seldom will someone try and attack you but it's enough to make pvp a real thing in poe just like in diablo 2.

balance is literally a moot point kill yourself idiot
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Shitposting pvp fags fucking up the thread.
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>>124213573
>non-competitive pvp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxymoron

>unlike arena pvp you won't be gearing for pvp you will be gearing to clear maps and seldom will someone try and attack you but it's enough to make pvp a real thing in poe just like in diablo 2.
but an EA guy may gear strictly for pvp and rape literally any player he wants
unless the target logs out as soon as they see him, which would be how 99% of to-be pvp encounters would end
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>>124213180
>>124213440
I think Scion ranger and Shadow reworked, maybe Marauder and Witch nerfs.

Possibly some block nodes removed and replaced with something like more damage when wielding shields or shield defenses etc.

Incinerate, flame totem nerfs.
Explosive arrow possibly poison arrow nerf
Cyclone nerf
SRS nerf

Buff to melee splash. Melee elemental damage buffed. Evasion buffed. Leech buffed. Some useless skill gems buffed that might now be worth building around and form a new meta.
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>>124213524
This.

The thing is that they often change more than just the tree, but also gems in general. Them nerfing a support gem might mean your build is suddenly a lot worse or a lot better if they buffed it.

Also stuff like life, armor, evasion, ES is changed frequently. Armor used to give -1 phys reduction per 12 armor, now its per 10 armor for example.

But from what I see I think Scion is most likely to be nerfed on the tree, simply for being too strong end game.
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waiting for tree
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>>124214118
holy shit you're fucking retarded.

let me explain to this to you in the simplest terms possible.

In nearly EVERY SINGLE SITUATION you will encounter in diablo 2 style pvp, you will not be up against a balanced fight. THE ENTIRE POINT IS IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE IMBALANCED YOU GOD DAMNED RETARD.

You want to meticulously collect perfect level 30 year, create an OP as fuck level 30 build and see how many high level retards with shitty builds you can gank? You can. You want to take your faceroll mapper into a low level area and harass noobs? You can. You want to just do an about face on your body and hostile them in a map, totally catching them off guard? You can.

The situation that presents itself whereby which you're having a matchup between two players looking for the pinnacle of competitive balance is WHAT ARENA PVP IS FOR RETARD. The developers can waste all their time trying to balance pvp their. That's not what world pk is for. The whole reason why it's enjoyable is because it's NOT BALANCED and that you can kill or be killed by anyone anytime.

Maybe that means everyone will play EA all the sudden fine well guess what everyone played hammerdin in D2 with their unresistable 15k+ damage magic hammers and that didn't stop people from pvping So it looks lkie your EA meme is dead, retard.
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>open chest
>chaos orb
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>>124216846
I just masturbated to eri
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>>124217010

>fapping to degenerate anime porn
>not doing nofap

LMAO that's why you're a virgin.
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>>124217492
>doing nofap
HOW DO YOU DO THIS? I'm on my third day and I'm going insane.
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>>124217492
>doing nomeme
enjoy that increased risk of prostate cancer family
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>>124217492
>>124217828
>Guys I've turned a new corner today, 5 days before my 60th day i took the elevator just now with my 'porn type' the type of girls i used to watch for hours and hours. The result? Heart rate was steady not elevated, I wasn't creepily trying to check her out, my thoughts were composed, i was standing upright and i confidently said hi to her because she kept staring me up/down.
>This is what i wanted, to slowly erase any conditioning.
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any of you lift while waiting for updates?
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>>124215840
God, I'm not the guy you're arguing with, but stop embarassing yourself. From all that typing and breathing you might get a hear attack, you fat childish fuck. You're saying that the game should be open as in cutthroat leagues, aren't you? That's the most retarded shit ever and it wouldn't work, because fat fucking idiots like you would camp low level zones in hardcore and kill everyone. No one is going to listen to your opinion, It's fucking dumb, so can you please fuck off already.
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What's your favorite sadpanda tags, /poeg/?

>rape
>mind break
>heart-shaped pupils
>prostitution
>double penetration
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>>124217492
>doing nofap
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>>124218931

i lift ere day anyway. wtf is that pic??
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>>124217492
>not tricking your brain into thinking you have already reproduced so that you can have peace of mind
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>>124219746
the only truth
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>>124219429
>ss
>futa
>gangbang
>elves
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>>124219429
chikan english
>read them all
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general status: derailed

:>
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>>124219313
>it wouldn't work, because fat fucking idiots like you would camp low level zones in hardcore and kill everyone
just like in Diablo 2, right? think before posting retard. you're probably wheezing right now from your fat retard filled lungs you god damned mongoloid. go back to ASSFAGGOTS general you fucking moron.

>>124219649
just found it humorous
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>>124219958
my boyyyyyyyyy
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D
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>>124220902
esecrate
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>>124220978
is this game still shit
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>>124221183
It's great cause no PvP.
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>>124221304
I wonder when the next time they'll spend a few months developing PvP content will be
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Is this true? That you don't really have to restart if you're just playing standard leagues?

Or is this guy just misinformed?
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>>124221453
depends if you build gets hit with tree changes or a straight out unplayable nerf

but you still get a free passive reset anyway
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>>124221453
It's true, but Standard's retarded. Only mirror worthy stuff are dumped there. You would never accumulate enough currencies to get them unless you RMT or be autistic Jew trader.

Most people play the game to test out new mechanics during new leagues (it takes 3 days to get to 80+ if you play slow, that's less than 24 hours of real game time), which is why if the league mods suck, the league dies super fast.
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>>124221453
Non-HC characters always get dumped into Standard when a non-HC league ends. The problem is that Standard has a really overinflated economy due to this, and a lot of stuff that's worth something in other leagues becomes worthless.

It's great if you're not an autistic RMT poopsocker who has to get 200ex at the start of every new league so that he can play a normal build though, since it actually allows for gradual upgrades over a longer time period.
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>>124221889
>standard is great if you're not autistic
>you have to grind for 5 years to buy something you can get in 5 hours in a temp league
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>>124210625
now this animeposter is truly a gentleman and a scholar
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i just woke up but im going back to bed because theres no tree
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>I know this has been mentioned before, but I truly don't think anyone is prepared for the absolute devastation Virtual Reality Porn is going have on current and future sex/porn/masturbation addicts.
>For anyone who might have a porn addiction and doesn't know it yet, this could be the escalator that ruins their lives. I predict that this is going to do to sex addicts, what the internet did 20 years ago.
>Just be ready to welcome thousands of new members in the coming years!
>(Also, I think we should be extremely grateful to not have to experience VR PORN. If a regular porn reacts in an addict's brain similarly to what cocaine does to a blow addict, I can't even begin to imagine what VR PORN is going to do to people's insides.
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>>124219313
>you fat childish fuck
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>>124223357

addiction to virtual reality porn is going to be the absolute least of VR addicts' problems. within 80 years we will be able to dilate your perception of time to match with hyper-speed quantum processors, effectively letting you in seconds live out years of virtual reality completely indistinguishable from real life. just gotta make it 80 years, /vg/
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>>124223357

>tfw just waiting for VR so I can hug my waifu once and tell her how much I love her so I can finally kill myself
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how friendly is this game to new players
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Fresh off the presses
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Hope you picked those scrolls up
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>>124223853
yes you can
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I havent smoked pot in a week
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>>124224535
>>124223937
Fucking hacker FUCK
reported to chris you fucker
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As usual that fucking CUNT Atziri gives me nothing but FUCKING SHIT

Thanks a lot your fucking FOUR TITTED MONSTROSITY
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Do you think that lebit can beat our boys in a 5v5 dota2/csgo match?
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>>124225510
I want to FUG that little white haired loli!!
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>>124225510
i only play aram in league lol
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>>124225510
Put me in lmao, i'm better then any of those 5 fags in either game.
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>>124225510
me on the left
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>>124226604
Me touching your shoulder :3
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Can we have someone from GGG to mod this board and apply these rules please?

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1457463
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>>124225510
me on the bottom right
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>>124226742
Hi, this is Chris Wilson from Grinding Gear Games. Just thought I'd personally let you know that we'll be looking into this. Bex_GGG has already gotten in contact with Mister Hiroyuki concerning /poeg/

Have a nice day :)
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>>124227000
SUP CHRIS NICE TRIPS AYYYYYYY

WHO'S HIBERNATING UNTIL MONDAY
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>>124227000
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http://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAx4GIwagDjwPqxDMFHEWvxo4H0EjMSSLJbwmlScvKgsqEyynLag2PTsoPC1Bh0rESshLCktXTDJVS1WFWOVZ81orWlJd8l-wYQZh4mKsZIRmnmh0aoxsjG1sbqpvnnBScNVyD3Kpdqx3B3sggwmDzIcTiWuJ04wLjDaQVZSgm12btZyknaqi2aPypcuomqk0rKqtjbDYsZC1SLc-t9a32bl8wOPDOsT2xq7IFMpKz37YTdpi20_bWd-_4MPqGOx07LDxs_KX8-r1b_au9zL4k_jr-b356P6H

how retarded is this build? dual/triple crit EK totem scion
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>>124226742
kill y'our self
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>>124227069
LOL
MONDAY?
LOL
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>>124227229
retard
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w-why are the servers restarting? is there a patch?
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>>124227291
Hello,

This will be your first written warning. The posters of /poeg/ no longer tolerate this type of language. Please refer to the rules posted above to avoid future transgressions.

I have contacted your ISP so they issue a wide-range 24 hour block on your 4Chan internet connection.
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>>124227229
>crit
>less than 300% from tree
>no investment into power charges
>127% life
>BM with aura reduction nodes but no investment into energy shield
You're dumber than catposter sick meme tho.
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>>124227460
could it be t-tree?
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hold up
the fuck is this
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>>124227617
BR? BR. HUE HUE
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>>124227617
some kind of

brazilian squad?
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>>124227591

how would you make an EK totem build that uses ancestral bond? is it even possible?
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Where the fuck is the tree?
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>>124228123
Read the thread >>124227069
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>>124228169
>reading reddit posts
back to reddit with you!
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>>124228273
I told you to read the thread, not reddit. Do you have brain problems?
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>>124228390
holy shit you're right. it's fucking 2015. 4chan is literally reddit. i guess i should leave
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>>124224334
Me neither going to pick up a couple oz tomorrow for Shitman
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>>124228638
But anon, you just read his picture. You can no longer be pure, you can leave but you're already a redditor.
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>>124224535
hope you ID'd those kris
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>>124228989
I actually forgot

By reflex during atziri runs I tend to ignore most rares dropped
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>mfw i secretly know that "monday NZ time" is actually sunday night for the civilized world
>mfw i'll be looking at the three 12 hours before everybody else
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>>124229410

dumb frogposter
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>>124069382
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this game needs diablo 2 style pvp Tbh
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0-9 cyclone
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>>124230245
>GGG's balance team
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>>124230395
>>
>Pretending to hate Chris
>Pretending to hate GGG
>Pretending to hate the game
>Pretending to hate Hans
>Pretending to hate reddit
>Pretending to hate Softcore
>Pretending to hate fotm skills
>Pretending to hate PVP
>Pretending to hate anime
>Pretending to hate cats
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>>124231342
>pretending

chris = ggg = retarded = hans = reddit = softcore = shit

pvp also a shit
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>>124231342
I only hate carebear PvP where it has no impact on the actual game.
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>>124231637
if hans is retarded and softcore how did he get to 100 in hardcore twice?
And why haven't you reached 100 yet, anon?
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>>124231961
it's a well-known fact that hans gets carried by his reddit buddies

free gear, free maps, supports sucking his dick, never has to run his own zones while leveling, more donations from his fans than even streamers get, etc etc

real players here like esk or catposter deserve respect but not that retard
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>>124231793
this
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>>124232210
esk also gets carried by lebin kids and catposter's only demi was as an aurawhore

so no. fuck you
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>>124232409
>hans and his plebbit army mad as fuck
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>>124232409
esk isn't a redidiot

catposter's aurawhore demi is worth more than your entire life
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>>124232210
except I know him and most of this is false, the only time he has been boosted and given free items was with his last character
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>>124232625
esk may not be a reddiot, but they always just end up leeching off of hans map supplies (donated by his reddit c-uck buddies) past 96-97

you can also literally just buy a demi off of some chinese rmt site you fucking pathetic loser
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>originally think GGG had all the supporter effects ready to go
>and were holding back a few so they could play the "we listen to the community" card, then add them in
>they reveal the effects
>the effects really look like they were cobbled together in a day or two

Here I was thinking that GGG was playing a master ruse. Manipulating the normies and such.
Turns out they were just incompetent from the beginning.

Hanlon's razor strikes again.
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>>124233307
>implying the effects aren't cobbled together
>realizing they're shit
>pulls the ruse
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>>124233556
I still don't see much reason to hate on supporter packs that give you 95% of the points per dollar spent.
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>spending money on a free game
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>>124233998
>>124233556
>>124233307

You are NOT buying something by getting those packs. You are SUPPORTING continued development of the game, be fucking glad they are nice enough to give you anything at all as a gesture of thanks.
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>>124233998
>>124233556
this is the best point. you're basically paying $5~ dollars for the lowest pack of items, plus a $45 of points. Think of the other perks as costing $5. It's not so bad now, is it?

People just love to bitch.

>>124234434
Also an excellent point, it's quite literally like donating.
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>>124234549
I can spend 0 dollars because it's a free game
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>>124234434
no, I'm buying something.
only "supporting development" is called donations, unless you're a corporation in which case it's called sponsorship.
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>>124234597
Exactly, so what the fuck is your point?
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>>124234285
>being poor
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>>124235070
>thinking being poor has anything to do with it
>>
>havent been on steam in 5 days
>log in
>zero notifications

tis the fate of one lonesome man
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>>124235203
esk?
>>
reminder that you are OBLIGATED to spend money on poe to support ggg because they are the greatest company ever to exist

anyone that says otherwise is either poor or retarded
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>>124235260
no but esk is one of my few """"""""""""""friends""""""""""""""""""""""
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>>124235521
dethox?
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someone make a realm for eastern sun
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>>124235435
for the record this post is sarcasm. i know there are some literal retards here that would take it seriously
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>>124235435
How did a redditor become so lost as to end up in a place like this?
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>>124235435
Fuck off chris
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we'll have an entire week to theorycraft builds

i'm probably going to do some kind of CI ZO contagion build and then go low life when i get a Shavs
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>>124236893
that sounds like a really original idea good luck :)
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>>124236893
you understand essence drain doesn't leech life? ZO would be pointless
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>>124236974
well that's the biggest problem with this game. if you want to be competitive you have to play meme builds.
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>>124237123
how do we already know contagion will be meme tier?
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>>124237269
it's pretty clearly meant to be the new spooky toss
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>>124235070
actually have about 280k atm and i'm selling another house next year so i'll have 450k haha but ggg still won't get none outta me
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>>124235435
>PoE is not free software
D R O P P E D
R
O
P
P
E
D
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>>124238198
free as in freedom
poe is not open source
poe does not respect your rights
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>>124238381
That's what I said
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>>124238189
>lying on the internet

why
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there is literally nothing wrong with playing a support character
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>>124227803
https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgMAVa5Eq4-mghDfsCyc0PVBlgVCrrPbXlAwIG5Ms-_r0B9VxoPbBAc6WF8q6-SuEkShg_M2xR8CWK5epRNxj0anCNgktvr3po5kHRTjahZv-tI26SSqKhNY5Waeo_JaK2u3hX0WQNWmV5QpT-08mjuCm6IA4XMEs8Bm8B9wUonTcNVd8g5IEZZ_xqKjwfOVIC0ftUjz6ioLAx4fQQYjYeImlRa_VUuMNklR8NWVLgce8h1knev1j_pjQw3RakPAVLzqaxcI9Emx18_5N--IkydTUkWdmuDr7jpCS3jdqDBx1CONvwW16NbndG1sWAc5Uhhqm6E=
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>>124238198
seriously, PoE would be a perfect candidate for being licensed under MIT or GPL or something. Their business plan is already practically based around donations, and the added community and mods would increase the playerbase by a fuckton. It would also set an example to the games industry to quit driving bullshit into Macro$hits pockets.
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>>124238551
>he didn't capitalize on the real estate collapse in 2008
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>>124238874
i was 16
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>>124239007
me too
1992 buddies
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>>124238874
are you so insecure that you need to make up a whole narrative when someone calls you poor on a jap pedo board?
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>>124238856
are you 12 or something?

even if poe used 100% in-house developed tech (which is highly unlikely, specially their packet encryption), think for a second about what happens if evert bot dev and cheater has access to client code and packet encryption keys
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>>124237110
why would it be pointless? i'll have ~1500 ES/regen per second. essence drain would be nice if it restored ES though. it would make doing no regen maps a lot easier
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>>124239973
A) They wouldn't have access to packet encryption keys, just the software behind it.
B) More people reviewing and forking the code would make it more secure against botting. If it would even make a fucking difference because the game is almost entirely calculated serverside.
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>>124238874
literally doing gods work
we need people like you
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>>124240486
>A) They wouldn't have access to packet encryption keys, just the software behind it.

then it cant be GPL. not sure how MIT license would handle it

Apache has a less restrictive license model, which is why many major corporations use it instead

>B)

when everyone can compile their own client, its not the client you need to secure, but the server-side interface, of which everything would be now exposed to people looking to exploit it.

UNLESS you also release the server code, which would inevitably lead to forking and fragmentation and that would be it for GGG
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>>124238761

>poebuilder
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>>124241131
you would be able to play on GGG sanctioned servers which are "hack free" like they are right now. There will also be all the fun sketchy russian ones that are full of dumbasses running through at 9999xp. Think of how WoW is now but actually free or open source.
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>>124241268
its obviously a ruse post m8

>>124241357

GGG would simply stop making money

Yes a portion of invested players would keep playing official servers, like people still play wow. But just like wow, a few excellent pservers will pop up and while it would be better for us as players (competition in providing servers forcing for better quality that is), ANY sort of fragmentation would be terrible for GGG, since they dont have activision-level backing or an stablished catalog of IPs.
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>>124241820
like I said they are practically make money off donations anyway.
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>>124244234

yeah off of people who play their game

the moment they are no longer sequestering the development of poe, those donations will flow to other forks
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>>124245980
They would still be developing official patches as well as incorporating user modifications and forks into their game each patch.
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>>124246067
i think you dont know what "sequestering" means. anyway its a stupid discussion. as it has zero chance and it in no way benefit ggg
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>>124246314
>"sequestering"
isn't that the fancy word for horses
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how much coke would i need to not kill myself while doing 1-100 summon zombies only
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>>124247042
no catposter; that word is "equestrian"
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>>124247413
dumb smartposter
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>>124247309

im not even sure zombies-only could kill cruel malachai
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>>124247042
the word you're looking for is estrogen
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>>124247551
>>124247413
>>124247042
STOP YOU GUYS ARE INTERRUPTING MY SERIOUS DISCUSSION FOR THE BETTERMENT OF MANKIND
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>>124247754
dumb freeposter

>>124247673
i'm gunna do it
but fuck levelling to there zombies only
>>
>PoE wasnt nominated for anything at the game awards
>GGG wasnt nominated as best dev

why
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>>124248240
game sux dick
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>>124247042
Dying of laughter here. Based catposter.
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>gardening all day
>hands splintered and torn
>want to play manly vidya
>poe is in coma

what else is there?
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>>124247042
literally a dumb catposter
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>>124247042
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>>124075825
>20 100's in darkshrine HC

i have a simple solution for this that won't negatively affect anybody:

literally double the xp needed to level to 100, but only beyond lv90. leave 1-90 the same
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>>124249862
why not just increase level cap to 200 or 500?
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>>124249862
oh god no

i'd never play past 90

i hardly do as it is
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>>124250813
>500

kek

autists would be poopsocking maps for YEARS and i think ggg realizes this

they don't want people dying while playing their game. they would lose money
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>hanz
>reached 100
>implying that's an achievement anymore
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>>124252805
he cheated the whole way through too
hey hans
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>2045
>no trade improvements
Nice gayme pootards
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TREE
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NEW
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BOB ROSS WHERE
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>>124235435
the truth is, every whining and complaining about GGG and the state of PoE can be countered wit one simple sentence. Ready?

>They implemented loot filters

Now go buy some packs, people
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>>124257670
but GGG didn't make any loot filters, they just implemented the means to use them
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>>124257670
Fuck off chris
RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>124257670
that jif is terrifying
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>>124257670
>webm
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>>124257794

i don't think you understand anything at all about the back end of game development. or of anything, really.
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>>124258075
>>124258046
got another one
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>>124258308
i dont think it fucking matters. GGG half-assed loot filters just like they half-ass everything else
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>>124258346
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>>124258346
nope nope nope
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>>124258373

you don't think it matters because you don't understand. they wrote a fucking scripting language -- not exactly something you'd win a nobel prize for but it's not necessarily easy either
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>>124258346
>the moment that he realizes what he's done
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>>124259210
no big deal. i'm bilingual because i know memespeak. not impressed
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>>124259321

>the exact moment you decide to try to start trolling
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>>124259210
It depends on whether they used a formal parsing system, or just hacked together some Perl at the last second. Most "real world" programmers are allergic to any formalism at all, so I'm guessing the latter.
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>>124260767
normal thought process is

>make it work
>then you can make it pretty

but by the time you make it work, you have 8 other things to "make work" before you have any time to make it pretty.
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>>124259419
>implying i haven't been trolling you all along

i'm the author of all your feels, mr.anon
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>>124239236
>jap pedo board?
That... explains a lot of shit.
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>>124266342
go back to redshit
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>no new tree
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>>>/an/2009252
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part of me wants talisman to be easy as fuck so i can be a casual scrub and still complete all my challenges

the bigger part of me wants it to be invasion-tier impossible because it would be more fun but also more frustrating, but mostly for the epic meemz that will spawn from it

so here's to talisman being hard as fuck
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>>124249862
>>124251782

Needing 25 million xp to reach 120.

Lol.

>>124249862
The problem is that some players have found a way to get stash tab full of t15 maps using the shrines. There are literally people like that. And it made levelling extremely easy.
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>>124268528
Talisman grinding is basically torment ghost grinding. It cant be difficult by that virtue.
The Rigwald encounter might be hard. But knowing GGG, Rigwald will just be a poorly balanced warbands leader/beyond boss. Which, despite being overtuned, still wont be very hard.
And he will be nerfed in the first two weeks because of lebbit complaining about how "impossible" he is.
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>>124268993
top players will probably have rigvald on farm within a week regardless of his difficulty(unless he's like uber atziri tier).

just imagine all the dosh top players will have from selling rigvald talismans. they will be rich as fuck.
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>>124269372
>they will be rich as fuck
not really.
its hard to make money off items early in a league because nobody has currency to buy it. and any currency you do make depreciates in value over the course of the league.
the only way to make money off items in the first week is to literally be the first person farming atziri.
hc players could make some mad dosh on standard by ripping some talismans, but thats about it.
the real money at the start of leagues is in selling bosskills.
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>>124269639
>the real money at the start of leagues is in selling bosskills.
i always forget to do this. i usually just rush to maps. i might spend a week selling cruel mala kills this league t-b-h
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Witch's smelly pussy
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>>124269639

how can people not just roll double flame totem or incinerate or something faceroll like that and not just cruise up to merciless?
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>>124270774
if there's one thing i've learned about this game, it's that most people are really fucking bad at it. this is especially true in softcore
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>>124270774
After the six time you do exactly that, if you have any sanity left, you either do something else or don't play anymore.
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>>124270774
80% of the games population doesnt read anything about poe.
most dont know how good flametotem is for leveling, some arent aware flametotem even exists
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>>124270873
Here's to hoping we get different leveling builds in 2.1
lel who am i kidding
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>>124270815

i'm not trying to say i'm really good at the game but i just picked it up last week. fucked my first character up but looked up a build and my goofy ass double flameblast spell totem witch is running maps pretty easily with all self-found gear. game really isn't that hard
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>>124270947
your autism powers give you an advantage over the average normie casual
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>>124271024

i feel the power coursing all the way from the tip of my atrophied penis to my blackened, plaque coated heart
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>>124268993
>>124269372
He doesn't sound so bad.

From his description I guess it will be a boss utilizing a lot of traps, bleeds and possibly some movement skill to deal damage (flickr strike, whirling blades).

Of course I won't know how hard he is. It might depend on the map level too. If he deals purely physical damage and is a high physical claw damage dealer it might be hard for some classes that lack armor.

>>124269748
This is pretty annoying if you don't have +25% movement speed boots at least it takes long to clear the 3 sub bosses over and over.

It was much better money in the old leagues when everyone was buying Malachai kills since he was very overtuned before his first nerf (the second nerf was unnecesarry imo).

GGG didn't fix Piety properly either. If they wanted to make Piety easier in normal they should've reduced the speed of the beam. Because the speed is the same in all difficulties I had less problems with Piety on merciless than on normal.

>>124270774
I played crit freezing pulse last league because I was tired of these skills. Levelling would've went twice to thrice as fast though with something as lame as flame totems and firestorm.

>>124270928
>>124270774
It's because information is really hard to get about this game there are ample guides and the build guides you do have, well there are so much from you don't know what to pick. Most people don't watch streams either.
>>124270945
I just hope they nerf incinerate, flame totem, explosive arrow. Those skills are all broken in their own way. Poison arrow is a good one as well.

Casters will then go back to flameblast probably yet again though :/
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>>124271391
>From his description I guess it will be a boss utilizing a lot of traps, bleeds and possibly some movement skill to deal damage (flickr strike, whirling blades).

i reckon his biggest killer will be viper strike and/or puncture
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>>124233005
alt art demi is incredibly rare and is worth over 1000 USD I thought.

The 1000 point race rewards are enough to buy you a car, there are people who want to buy those alt arts as well.
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Would you play an anime ARPG, /poeg/?
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>>124272129
If the animes had hairy legs and pits, sure.
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>>124266342
Lurk more you newshit redditor. You don't even fucking know why 4chan was created in the first place.
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>got my first 5L drop yesterday
>used my first regal orb on a Lava Caller's wand, got decent rolls
>was at 92% of the way from level 59 to 60, would have been my first hardcore character to get to 60
>ripped in Daresso's Dream

I was almost on top of the world man. Almost.
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>>124272129
I already did and it crashed harder than a Jihad running a Discharge CoD build
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>>124273104
>no vaal RF before CoD
shit build
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>>124273079
>5l
>lava caller's wand
Why do you want a +2 wand if you have a 5l? you're probably going to use your main skill in the 5l, aren't ya?
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>>124271574
where do people buy those shits more? HC or standard?
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Hey guys what do you think of my quad trapper?

I use voltaxic on swap for bear trap / bosses

twitch dot tv/numeta/v/28188532
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>>124273789
>twitch
retard
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>>124273931
IMport to youtube takes an hour . I'm lazy
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bets on ggg adding a curse that reduces enemy chaos resist in 2.1?
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>>124274023
not when wither exists
also vuln works
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>>124273737

The 5L was going to be for a different character, I've just never had one before.
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>>124274217
well in general you probably want to use your skill on a 5l, +1 or +2 is generally fine for leveling specially with flame totems that only need faster casting and fire penetration while leveling, but later you probably want to switch to a 5l as soon as possible
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why is wither not a curse when it functionally is a curse?
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>>124274564
probably so its not affected by curse effect?
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>>124274564
cuz it stacks

you could literally use a wither spell totem and it would stack indefinitely

combine wither with abyssal cry and temp chains and you basically slow enemies so much it's like you're freezing them

it's going to be broken
>>
Any idea when the Ascendancy tree's come out?
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>>124274723
E A R L Y 2 0 1 6 next year
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>>124274671
I bet my left testicle that slow effect won't stack
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>>124274361

Well what the idea was in the long run was to have just a fireball with conc effect and fire pen in the wand just to have something to focus on single targets with. Flame totem and firestorm were my bread and butter.
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>>124274946
>>124274946
i bet they'll allow it

even with max dps the chaos dmg won't kill stuff very quickly in high maps. we'll need some way to survive while everything dies to the poison

basically run tri-curse with blasphemy: vuln > enfeeble > temp chains

then use a wither totem

then spam contagion and then abyssal cry or essence drain for bosses
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>>124275379
just cast contagion once and whirl away
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>>124275578
could it really be this easy?
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>>124275578
>whirl
>using a dagger with contagion
>implicit crit chance on a spell that doesn't benefit from crit
>instead of spell damage implicit
dumb WB addicts should stop trying to force it into every build
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>>124275683
>15% spell damage vs fortify + lightning fast movespeed
tough choice
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>>124275726
rolling a wand with spd + spd/mana hybrid and cast speed would be way easier than a dagger
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>>124275789
why would you need cast speed for contagion if you're supposed to cast once and watch shit die? and consider the fact that daggers without crit mods are dirt cheap on xyz even if they have high spell damage + hybrid spell/mana rolls
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but spell daggers are slow as shit

how would a 1.2aps dagger with whirling blades be faster than flame dash with some cast speed
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>>124276028
>spell daggers
you don't care about implicit crit on them if you're using contagion, so you might as well pick up an ambusher or any other dagger with high aps
not to mention that whirling blades gives free fortify and doesn't have just 3 uses
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>>124276152
meh

i dont like whriling blades personally. i prefer things you can jump over terrain with
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>>124276481
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aren't they buffing traps and mines in 2.1? why isn't anyone hype for that?
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>>124276849
probably because they aren't?
You're still confusing 2.1 with ascendency, mang.
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>>124276795
>wrong order
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>>124277041
>ggg announces two announcements within two weeks

confused af desu senpai baka
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What should i be throwing my orbs of chance at?
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>>124277807
strongboxes
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TREE
R
E
E
WHEN?
H
E
N
?
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Why does it take so long to update when all data is downloaded? What gives?
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>>124279659
>STEAM
found your problem.
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>>124279687
That was uncalled for.
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>>124279659
i think your pc shit the bed
>>
literally have no idea why people use steam
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>>124280086
they like spending money on things they don't actually own
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>>124279742
He's right tho.

Just don't use Steam for PoE. Do you really need to C how many hours you wasted on this shit game?
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Yes!!! You have to go on fucking Reddit to learn when the new tree will be up....

I do it so you don't have to, bros :^)
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What's wrong with Steam?
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>>124280938
also this>>124229410
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>>124280938
>>124227069
>>124229410
>>124229410
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>>124281018
>>124281084
Bet you didn't know this :^)

Again, I do it so you don't have to bros
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>>124280975
absolutely nothigng
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>>124281817
it's literally malware and uses up a lot of resources

steam poe also patches slower than real poe and if steam crashes then poe crashes too
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>>124280975
Normal PoE client gets a 100MB patch and "injects" it into the content.ggpk

Steam client takes the same 100MB patch and rewrites the whole 5Gb content.ggpk. See example >>124279659.

So enjoy having 40 min updates for miniscule 10MB patches at the start of leagues.
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>>124282839
I havent had a regular patch take longer than 30s on seam.
Awakening took 15mins though. But Im sure GGG servers were just as swamped.
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>>124282839
I hear everyone complain about this, but i'm sitting on my 500 down 100 up line and i haven't had any issues with the steam version.
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>>124282520
>steam
>malware

top jiji
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>>124282520
Only thing true in this post is that if steam crashes the game does so as well. Though i've used steam for over 8 years and it has never crashed even once.
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>>124283516
me too, downloading new patches with steam doesn't take long
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Is incinerate totem that much better than flame totem? I like having an extra gem slot with flame totem.
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>>124287429
it is consistently better
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/poeg/ really represents how dead this game is when GGG waits weeks after a leagues death to make a new one.
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>>124288343
leagues die 2 weeks after they start desu
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>>124288343
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>>124288593
Exactly, /poeg/ has been the same for around 2 weeks now
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>>124288919
I noticed an increase of GGG shills in the last 2 threads tho.
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how do I make more currency in temp leagues poeg? this is almost all I made in darkshrine hc, well, I lost a character with at least 5ex in gear and spent 3ex to gear another
>>
>want to play
>have new build in mind
>new league starting soon
>either make a character in standard HC now or wait for the fun league to start in a week
>spend all my time shitposting in poeg instead

W E W
E W E
W E W
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>>124289367
Family, religion, friendship. These are the three demons you must slay if you wish to succeed in Path of Exile.
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>>124273789
ehhh, why do you only have 3k life? I mean that is a serious issue, you're getting chunked for half your hp by a skeleton arrow.
Are you using the trap boots? those are a free 5 link, too.
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>>124290291
>fun league
>fun
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>>124290339
you forgot work and studies
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>>124289367
First, you go get a job. Then you get paid after two weeks working 20 hours a week. That's ~150 dollars if you make around minimum wage, and then you RMT, getting around 30-60 exalts for that. Best way to make currency right there.
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>>124291183
I make 1.5-2.5 exalts per hour.
so no. thats not the best way.
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>>124290805
Family, religion, friendship, work and studies. These are the five demons you must slay if you wish to succeed in Path of Exile.
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>>124291346
>minimum wage
So literally the least qualified autist can do. If you actually can get a job with more than the minimal qualifications, you can make much more than that. You working at a real job and hiring a chinese sweat shop worker will always be more efficient than actually grinding the game yourself.
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D
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E
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A
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D
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D
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G
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Alive
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M
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E
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>>124291384

>2015
>having a family that hasnt given up on you
>having a full time work
>having friends
>being into religion
>studying

normies i guess
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>>124298017
>not being a hybrid
Literally the best of both worlds, pleb
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>>124229410
mate its more like saturday night

t. NZer
>>
poe failed to be the dream arpg diablo 3 is superior now dead game
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>>124300340
>>124300340

nah. poe failed and d3 failed harder. but Devilian saved the genre and its pretty much GOAT arpg
>>
honestly need a build for the new hc league lads

srs or incin? incin seems dangerous tbqh
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>>124300895
>incin
>dangerous
incinerate is like one of the safest build, I mean you can kill yourself to rare reflect but you would have to be really stupid to actually die to that
>>
>>124300895

>nearly zero need to invest in offense
>dangerous

dumb nig
>>
>>124301074
>>124301143

It's more the having to stand still to cast that scares me, I'm used to movement heavy builds.
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>>124300895
just convert it to chaos with infernal and that other meme item i cant remember right now
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>>124300580
>installing korean money making scam to your ssd
too lel
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>>124301649
dont worry i also have NZ rmt money making scam stuff on it
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>>124276028
flame dash has a cooldown and a cast animation

whirl + fa isn't really that slow
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>>124302292
>whirl + fa isn't really that slow

specially if you link it to a 20q fa
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>new data patch
>still no datamine on skill scaling
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>>124302292
you can escape from freeze boxes with a well timed whirl
wouldn't try it on kekcore though
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>>124302818

Why not? It doesn't matter if you die in cúckcore just hit the respawn button like it's nothing.
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>>124303119
>le meme reversal
love this meme
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>>124303119
cúckcore isnt what you think it is
>>


just get wordfiltered you faggots
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>Zeno playing EleHit right now
>literally has to use Reduced Mana and Mana Leech to sustain this garbage while leveling while also wearing Elreon Rings
Is there a worse skill in the game? This gem truly deserves to be deleted.
>>
>>124303592
no fám
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>>124303656
Should've used Blood Magic you idiot.
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>>124303656
dom blow

glacial hammer

RAT

wild strike

frost blades

prolif
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>>124303656
freeze mine desu
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>>124303856
i like how the prolif nerf simultaneously gutted glacial hammer and killed any chance wild strike may had

all to keep pizzablast alive
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>>124303845
He will eventually. If he does it now with Storm Cloud and Ele Hit mana cost he'll fucking die.
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>>124308158
rollan
>>
i want reddit to leave
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>>124308158

ecksdee
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>>124308158
HERE

WE

GOOO
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>>124308158
simbly ebin
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>>124308158
roll
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>>124308763
>>124309148
>>124309158
>>124309289
>>124309305
Dumb rollers.
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I was doing a skill gem version of which meme are you but it took too much effort
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>>124309148

turns out i'm a pretty rare meme

2bqh faṁ im smdh rn rare af lmaooooo smdh smdh
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>>124310695
>you have to share a board with these niggers
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>>124310843
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>>124308158
leggo
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u guys seem optimistic about the new league compared to the pre-awakening release, when everybody was hating. did they fix the game?
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>>124312230
We aren't optimistic, we just want new toys to play with for a week before back to shitting about the game.

That's unless there are some GOOD balance changes in the patch/tree next week. Talisman itself's just a buffed up rare mob with the promise of build enabling items, but most builds are going to be start with just your regular build. I very, very much doubt anyone will reroll since most players just quit after a month anyway.
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>>124312230
2.0 was bad to the point where everyone here who disliked it actually stopped playing and coming to the thread
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>autism and mental retardation
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>>124313008
i'm one of them, but i couldn't tell if i was just bored of the game
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>>124303656
>meme streamers playing a meme league using meme skills in their meme builds

>>124308158
I know which meme I'm not! 4Head
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>>>/an/2009252
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>>124314598
someone linked it earlier and nobody shitposted it
could it be that /poeg/ is actually responsible and mature outside of /poeg/?
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>>124315451
Anything is possible anon, besides Trump having a chance at presidency.
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>>124300580
you can't be srs, I tried having fun in that game but couldn't
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>"pssshhh, nothing personel kid" - Daresso, King of Swords
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>>124316750
Why does he looks like berserker from fsn?
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>>124316498
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Kaom's Dream is literally the worst area in the game. Why the fuck is it so big.
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>>124317438

both of the dreams are fucking terrible
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>>124316498
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>>124317509
I thought Daresso's was pretty cool the first time i went through it.
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>>124317689
>>124317509
filtered :^)
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i have full cleared the fucking marketplace at least 10 times and still have not found the decanter on merci. the fuck?
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>>124319307

nevermind, found it literally as soon as i bitched about it
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>>124319464
See! You should've bitched about it earlier.
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Are there actually people here who play softcore? lmao
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>>124320127
c.ucks
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>>124320127
i do

but only because my toaster runs a silky smooth ~5 fps during the dominus fight.
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i take it lebbib is raiding us or something?
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>>124322421
>>124322421
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can you kill yourself with ci and bm, or would it just not let you cast
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