Tree of Savior General /tosg/

First for bokors.

Crashing my party with only one survivor each time

>>123981545
>>123981412
2 gems won't give +2 to the skill.
Max is +1 per skill.

Now even the latency is shit for some reason, some crappy 1 sec delays for everything. Its like the game degrades and falls apart over time.

>>123981659
nope, tool tip says +2 sec

>>123980537
Wouldn't be better to use a bow instead of a crossbow for the base damage? I mean, Stone is based on p.attack and arde only gives you a flat bonus.

>>123981659
or do you mean 2 gems don't stack on 2 different weapons

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>>123980672
There are a lot of ways for bosses. Teardown his traps on him, especially Silence ones. Multiply+Rapid Fire. One can use Caltrops, though i didn't even to learn it. Or you can just stand there and use Stone. It have good damage, as always. Especially on Plate bosses.

>>123980981
It's comfy to run like that. QS have a lot of useful skills, i think. Though, im not using them usually.

BTW first for Quarrel Shooter is the Best Shooter.

>>123981659
I'm not sure. I saw guys with 17lvl skills somewhere out there, so it looks like you can put a lot of gems to boost skill, or some equip.

BTW
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/182103/

one just can use this thing.

>>123957457
Is Owl that good for going C3?

>>123981779
Well if that's the case than let me rephrase, for most skills (I've tried 10 so far) gems don't stack.
So I cannot for example have on my weapon
+1 Firewall
+1 Firewall
for a total of +2 Firewall, it will just give me +1 to Firewall instead
(Can be tested with both damage numbers shown as well as tooltip, but best way to test is with actual damage numbers shown)

>>123982091
You can use some equips yes
for example Ludas Staff and +1 fireball skill

>>123982091
Yeah but meme xbow is so good later on, also you won't want to use that for the rest of the game,so you need something realistic as you progress
Hoping we see lvl 230 gear or something

Honestly it's still up most of the time which is fine.

>>123981798
no, every damage with stone shot going *150% (stone) *150% (plate) +100% (attribute)

with other skills too. Though, other skills doesn't have 150% attack power scaling.

>>123981454
Man I really wanna tittyfuck that.

>>123982335
gross

>>123982335
>>123982382

>>123982268
weapon+subweapon/shield, dunno if you can't slot the gem in other equips I fed mine to my needy red gem.

>>123982268
but you can just switch your weapon to Grand Cross with +Running Shot gems, use buff, and then switch to main weapon that have +attack or +crit gems

if you want 100% uptime so badly

>>123982382
Is it really? Naktis looks like she has a good body. I want her to break me and turn me into a corrupted Revelator like the ones you fight.

>>123982382
>>123982403
fags

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FUCK

>>123982541
She probably has a fat futa cock, Anon.

>>123982664
run as admin

>>123982091
What can you teardown exactly? All placeable objects?

Haaaaaa, And I so wanted to squeeze a few more months on the quarrel is shit and unplayable but cute meme but I guess the info is out there.

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I'm cheering for a shield with +elemental damage to make sense picking Priest 3 for Stone Skin, as until rank 4 priest2->pala seems good but then there is nothing great on rank 5/6, then priest3 would make more sense on rank 5 and I could just pick Oracle or Krivis on 6. Just preparing for plague doc on 7.
Archers sucks and I would not live until rank 7 for musketeer/cannon, same as Warlock. Dragoon seems nice but also shit with his skills, sort of. That only leds me to narutard bushin no jutsu and maybe a nice costume with non shitty skills/cooldowns, but turns me off since I wouldn't have the same support as Cleric except for Squire which isn't that great and only route that doesn't sucks is Highlander3 instead of Barb2->Squire2.
All those classes and none atst.
>tfw no qt waifu yet

>>123982747
I did, it just took a while to start, thanks anyway.

>>123982529
This is probably what I'll settle for to be honest.

>>123982432
It's buggy right now so it's hard to say.

None of my weapon/glove gems will work in gloves for me (Pyrolinker) so I can't actually test if +1 in weapon and +1 in glove will stack

>weapon with my +5gem is missing
Whoops, must of npcd it

>>123982769
looks like

As far as i know:

Boss traps
Boss pavise
Mine Pavise
Dievdirby Statues

maybe Saper's traps too. don't know more. But it's useful on bosses, cause boss makes 4 traps at one time

anyone got the exp viewer to work with class exp?

on none of my characters is it remotely accurate even after setting rank/class level

also why does it STILL bug out every time you level or switch characters

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>stop playing for a week
>arde dagger is no longer in the market
>the money isnt there either
Darn

>>123983521
everything a boss lays down is able to be broken

rethink your view on caltrops

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What's this guy butthurt about?

>>123983624

switch channels

what's they broke in this maitenance? they fixed reflect shield?

can't play for now

>>123982721
EVEN BETTER

>>123982664
Everytime I boot the patcher, dem wiztits distract me.

>>123984191
if only bitches had tits like that ingame
>>123984006
ikr m8

What's the best build to become THE

THE

Unkillable tanklord? that can still do damage and solo grind

>>123984525
sword>pelt>hop3>doppel
for defensive
barb3 for offensive

>>123984525
Dex based Priest 3 monk 2?

>>123983927
surely got scammed that noob.
I saw monmon's Shout earlier but his offer was too good to be true.

>>123984525
I hear full con wiz 3 is pretty future proof because of earthquake.

>>123983521
Can you kick multi things?

>>123984734
kek, the full con got added.

>>123983141
>shield
>stoneskin
you just fucking block shit even without a shield if you have stoneskin up.

>>123984789
yes, but I always prayed to god that you can't

>>123984805
maybe, rumors say CON adds to EQ dmg if its Lv15
im to weak to lvl wiz3 and dont know tho

>>123984525
Would require Pardoner to become the unkillable memelord due to MDEF not being easily obtainable elsewhere in such large quantities.

200+SPR (L10 MDEF)
+0.2 per SPR already

1:1:1 CON:SPR:DEX
Do 0 damage, but never be hurt

Physical resistance is literally piss easy to get anywhere on any class, because you just need decent DEX for Evasion paired with CON. Throw in heals you get as a cleric and safety zone and you are more than fine.

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Remember it is your duty to kill AFK farmers where ever you may find them.

Thank fuck Arde dropped or I'd have had to actually buy it

>>123985040
Tell me the trick and I'll be a loyal disciple of this practice.

>>123985240
>trick

You just use Red Orb monsters anyone with a brain can figure it out

>>123982091
If you really don't like the other archer classes, archer3 to QS makes more sense. Stone Shot's scaling means nothing in the beginning and Twin Arrow covers Cloth armor

what the fuck last patch
3 or 4 times game crash out of nowhere today. had 0 crashes in 12+h before

>>123985306
Blue orb and then log out turns them feral.

>>123985404
They fixed that since they only fix EXTREMELY IMPORTANT bugs

>>123985520
That's not really it, they're fixing bugs that can result in griefing and other such things. Presumably most skill and class balancing will happen between major tests.

>>123984698
Scammed on what?

Closing in to r4 pick on my Sword, but i think i've fucked up going Pelt>Highlander trying out stuff (manly leveling with Cartar Stroke as my plan was to go Hop) for future betas/release. Was aiming for a tank-ish build but Pelt c1 seems to hold well enough on it's own.

What could be a decent choice to bring this character back on track?
All the c2 options open seems kind of poor, and new ones do not seems that great either.
Maybe Hop (and maybe at r5 too)?

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Revelator tries to use their brain for once, but there is not enough space to fully express their thoughts.

Anybody got the github/pastebin/something of the awakened items? I've seen it but can't remember where it was extremely rough and tedious to go through so I didn't actually payed attention to it at that time.

>>123985520
How do you think I killed >>123985040? I dropped a Bavon blue orb and logged out to character select. It still works.

>>123985791
>someone spent entire weeks or months writing all those no replies

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Reminder to not fall for these memes:

>full dex builds
>str/int is the worst stat in the game
>memelander
>sword2/3
>quarrel shooter
>wizard2/3
>cataphract
>archers and mages don't become any better late game
>full spr mages
>full con swordies
>save ALL your cards until 165
>muh 500 level cap
>full spr archer
>swordsman class is op
>elem needs wiz3
>archer3

>>123985761
trading money to one character to the other while the trader becomes 20% of the total sum.

>>123986056
>archers and mages don't become any better late game

...so is it a meme that they DO or meme that they DON'T?

>>123986056
next time add:

>there are better or stronger skills then EQ L15

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what's everyone's opinion on the game now that cbt is almost over?

>>123985382
I crashed four times running the 90 dungeon. Each time it was myself and other other person, but there were other crashes where I was fine. I'm not sure what they did or what even triggers them

>>123986152
Some archer in gabija keeps getting cubes even if he's not in a party during boss fights. Think about that for a second.

>>123986326
is it that archer3 scout 3 guy

>>123986284
Its fun and addicting, Despite its glaring bugs the fun factor actually covers it which is rare for a game.

>>123986365
I don't know his build, but he always gets a cube.

>>123985962

Do people even read OPs anymore?

>>123986284
Unpolished and our version has had some weird bugs that we really shouldn't have been able to get. The lack of prior stress testing is also really evident (not enough betas is the reason I'm going to stick with for this, though you could also say they just don't play the game themselves)

Ultimately, I've had more fun with this unpolished and rather buggy game than I have in a long time in terms of MMOs

>>123986446
>>123986326
I don't get it, I'm sorta new

>>123986448
Oh shit so that's where I've read it thanks.

>>123986415
I have the same opinion as this anon.

>>123986284
I'm digging it, but there's plenty of stuff to fix (from bugs to stability to balance to UI to design fuckups).

Would still play the shit out of it once released even if none of that got fixed though.

>>123986497
So you're a masochist. Got it.

>>123986056
You forgot full con mages.

NO KISSING IN PUBLIC PLEASE

>>123986610
If I couldn't have fun with a game despite bugs, I would never have played the beta to begin with

>>123986528
>World boss drops 10-15 cubes.
>Cubes are only given to the top DPS
>If you're in a party your party's DPS is added

Basically this guy is doing DPS well beyond 5 people.

>>123986446
I've only seen a solo Reiter get a cube at Dullahan.

How many level 8 cards are there? Was it 189?

>>123986284
The gameplay is FUN but they really need to rework how classes scale and how things are balanced

so I'm done with demon prison and am now getting more lvl8 cards. should I use the cards I have to get in the map's level range or am I supposed to wait until I have all that I can?

>>123983141
Superior Kite Shield
Awakening: Lightning Attack +47

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Slut tier: Sorcerer, Archer, Oracle, Peltasta, Highlander, Scout, Squire, Necromancer, Sapper, Pardoner*, Wugushi.

Not a virgin tier: Rogue, Bokor, Barbarian, Rodelero, Fletcher, Linker, Quarrel Shooter.

Pure tier: Falconer, Swordsman, Dievdirbys, Sadhu, Monk, Priest, Krivis, Cleric, Psychokino.

Cutie tier: Druid, Chronomancer, Fencer, Hoplite, Pyromancer, Cryomancer, Hunter, Ranger, Paladin, Doppelsoeldner, Corsair, Schwarzer Reiter, Pardoner*, Thaumaturge, Elementalist, Alchemist, Wizard, Cataphract.

* = can move quickly from cutie to slut.

May all of you cuties have a great day, filled with lots of love and kisses!

>>123986841
this is actually false you just need to cross a certain damage threshold to get a cube

>>123986284
Plenty of potential, needs a bit of work to really shine. Probably a lot of work actually, but still fun.

Game seems to improve as you get more involved in it, I'm having more fun now that I have a general handle on things than I did initially.

>>123986992
Barbarian is still more slutty than Necromancer

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>>123986056
>He thinks Cataphract is a meme

>>123986992
>falconers are pure sluts
I knew it

>>123987019
He's right though. How can you compete against 30-40 people if you're not hitting hard enough

Is it true swordies and clerics fall off DPS wise at end game and archers/mages only get better?

>>123987019
When damage threshold is a % of the total HP, there is still definitely a limit to the number of cubes available. And it's definitely shared by party, since party members that do 0 damage still get cubes.

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>>123986992
ayy too bad i'm not a degenerate

>>123987212
yeah he is but he probably isn't out dpsing 5 people

What's the best skill on the Archer tree to take down a tank? Backstab?

>>123987223
My zaibas still melts bosses.

>>123986992
If you lick a Wugushi do you get poisoned?

When does the main quest pick up after Tyla Monastery?

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>>123987058

>>123987296
With hair like that you surely are.

>>123986448
Nobody ever reads long winded ops.

>>123986284
Fun combat system and interesting quests, but needs to fix, rebalance, add, delete, and shuffle skills around and the quests will be boring and repetitive after the first time you do them.

Any type of homing bullet needs to go, and there needs to be armors that have passive damage reduction. I mean like something that bluntly adds a 5% reduction to damage just by wearing it and stuff like that.

The world isn't cute or fun and there's no where fun to go or hang out, like in RO, so I can't see myself playing it to just to play it after I get done making a character, unless they add some major interesting content. As long as I can finish it for completely free I won't care though.

There's also too little customization, so there better be some more stuff and ways to get cute outfits without paying. And they need to not remove potential upon trading.

I am level 151 and in Demon Prison district 3 questing.
Enemies are lv 157 onwards. Do I get some kind of exp penalty? I know I get a penalty when killing mobs that are lower than 5levels.

>>123987240
This is actually hard to test unless we can get 6 partys doing equal dps. if all those 6 partys get a cube we would actually know if theres a limit to cubes if its threshold or top dps. 1 party might damamge the boss for like 20-30 percent so the last 5 partys have to compete for the last 70% but the threshold might just be 10%.

>>123986841

i've got a lot of earth archon cubes solo as a cryo/kino

>>123987557
it makes me mysterious and edgy, not a degenerate.

>>123986284
shittiest devs I have seen

>>123984789
can i what?

Teardown is AOE. You kicking everything at once: lot of traps, or all the shields. Besides, if you kicking a trap - it destroys neayby traps in a moment, giving 5 damage, instead of usual 1 damage to traps.

>>123985347
Stone shot means everything everytime. You don't need twin arrows with 30 sec cooldown.

you just can fuck around and take any classes, if one wants. Like, hunter for costume, Falconer, Schweizer, Rogue, or something.

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>tfw getting the cafrisun set in 1 round of camping him

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>>123986152
I dunno, there's definitely stronger jobs out there, but I feel pretty decent.

>>123988726
>camping

Power of money, baby.

is there anything like Blitz Beat with falconers?

>>123988990
>+50%
Embarrassing.

>>123985040
Fuck off melonpan.

>>123986284
Making this game based on gamepads was a mistake. They need to improve mouse support and let you rebind keys in a convenient manner.

>>123988990
What's that dashing spell you have there?

>>123989209
well anon, not everything can be as strong and OP as EQ Lv15 _____ :^)

>>123989308
That's just gust knocking me around. Stupid trees.

>>123989289
I don't get the joke, sorry.

>>123989305
>mouse
is ok to me, sup ?
>rebind keys in a convenient manner.
KR has ingame keychange, we should get it next beta

>>123989305
supposedly rebinding keys is coming, but mouse mode right now is a source of constant frustration.

anon do you also have trouble with the party ui blocking your cursor by any chance

>>123989067
What do you mean?

>>123989537
>that mausoleum 5f invisible wall when your in mouse mode
This actually stumped me for 15 minutes before I changed to keyboard mode.

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I thought you guys were joking about the laugh.

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>tfw i made an archer to see how bad it was but might end up making one for obt instead of a Thaumaturge.

>>123988568
On a cloth target, Stone Shot is one shot of +50%, Twin Arrow is two hits of +50%

>>123989702
Even in mouse mode, just use WASD, m8.

>>123989702
You can still use arrows to move even in mouse mode (the num pad arrows)

>>123989890
>>123989982
yeah but at that time I actually didn't know those things

>>123989734
The "huehuehue" is a joke, then it became a meme and some use it ironically. However, there's a similar internet laugh brazilians use, like the one in the pic. Also
>playing on Saule

>>123990057
I'm in gabija.

>>123989702
you mean invisible floor things?

i had nowhere problems with mouse, just as >>123989890 said

>>123990057
That's Gabija, I've partied with Rodox a few times.

>>123990121
that was like the first major bugged are/quest with mouse mode, more will follow

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>>123987647
I agree we need cute places to hang out and be cute at. Something like an outdoor restaurant where players can sit at the same table and maybe even put two straws in the same drink to share it.

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Ok, how about this....

A full DEX/STR/SPR Bokor build

Even at circle ONE my zombies are enough to completely distract every enemy and allow me to hit them as many times as I want. Not to mention SPR = more zombie hp and STR/DEX scale with some abilities too

Is that totally retarded? It seems completely legit to me but I'm still not super well read on this game

>>123989890
>>123989982
yes, but there are a bunch of problems with mouse mode

you know how there are 3 levels of buff bars? the party member tiles stack them all end to end horizontally, and they're fixed width, so the party ui winds up taking up 30% of the screen width. if you have a full party it makes the whole left side of your screen unusable because of invisible hitboxes blocking your cursor

>>123990279
>full
>3 stats

>>123989637
http://irowiki.org/wiki/Blitz_Beat

The hunters in RO had hawks that could smack groups of enemies for def ignoring fixed damage. Is there any sort of good falcon based AOE attack? Or are they only good for flying around on?

>>123989734
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3n_NsvGZSg

Have you ever seen someone laugh with a fucking Q?

BRs, they did it.

Any other baka gaijins here playing in the JP CBT2 or am I alone?

>>123990456
as in no INT at all. Maybe no DEX either, just STR. Would I be able to wield a viable weapon?

I'm totally serious about this as a main in the release game and would like some feedback

>>123990537
No

>>123990537
http://www.tosbase.com/database/skills/31005/
there's this, the problem is that Falconer has long cooldowns and your bird is pretty weak despite that

>>123990639
Wait there an ongoing jp cbt? need more info on this

>>123989537
If you mean the nearby parties on the side of the screen, then yes. I also have a problem with hos close my character is to the skill box and accidentally clocking on skills instead. Also a problem with the skill box not acting as locked at certain times even though it is and occasionally resulting in me dragging a skill off the bar.

But the primary problem is there are lots of things that can't be interacted with by clicking and certain (direction based) attacks are hard to aim.

>>123990639
shit, its cbt do you need a key to get in?

>>123990813

It just started today

>>123990262
had no problems there other other places (except things not interact-able. switch to keyboard only for that, but they 'gonna fix that someday')

>>123990639
>Playing CBT2 when kOBT is around the corner

baka.

Fuck sappers. As a bokor currently attemting to suck demon dick and get over that hump, these assholes feel the need to wreck my zombify circle. I didn't even KNOW they could do that until I got here. Maybe because nobody's a big enough asshole outside of this self-imposed hell.

THE DEVS ARE ALREADY SHITTING ON MY JOB CLASS ALREADY. I DON'T NEED YOU DOING IT, TOO.

Fuck imc.
Fuck everyone.
Fuck this gay earth.

>>123990537
There's Pheasant like the other anon posted. it's weak, but the AoE is huge and it will cause the enemies to fall on their backs. Falconer is kinda underwhelming and clearly unfinished/incomplete desu

>>123990279
>>123991303
HELLO WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS

A MELEE-FOCUSED BOKOR3 BUILD

>>123991294
I know kanas, I dont know hangul.

Also paying for a SSID is just you waiting to be scammed, if you actually know how easy it is to retrieve it.

>>123991303
>these assholes feel the need to wreck my zombify circle.
How?

>>123991556
Test it out. I can't do it since I'm more of an INT bokor.

>>123991303
I feel no sympathy for you Bokors that destroy entire channels by themselves. If I was a Cleric I would put cures in the entrances to cockblock your zombie trains.

>>123991556
Um, I don't know if you're asking a question or attempting to mock me for doing something that was working out rather well until imc completely buttfucked Bokors even further a week ago.

>kill 5 ashrong
>5 consecutive long hasta drop
The game is telling me something, I just can't put my finger on it.

>>123991675
detonate trap probably works on zombify circle because this game is lazily coded so everything is the same

dead game

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Can you just farm a perfect +50 weapon using back masking whenever it fails?

did maintenance fix the channeling bug yet?

>>123991303
Considering how much bokors crash the channels, I applaud the sappers.

>>123991743
>Buttmad swordfags who believe they hold complete dominion over grinding/farming spots and all that spawn upon them

Kill yourself.

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>>123992050
What if they made back masking global?

>>123992050
someone make a c2 chrono also be sure to go full con wiz 3

>>123992276
Hey, you know what? Since I can't progress or do anything, maybe I should just do that, instead.
Thanks for the suggestion.

>>123991873
Lord and savior long hasta.

>>123992050
there's no way this works

...is there?

>>123992674
We don't know yet. I doubt it does but Back Masking is broken and just crashes your client right now.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if they just removed it from the game which would fucking suck. Even if it isn't as exploitable as that, it's still a really neat idea for an ability.

>>123985520
>they only fix EXTREMELY IMPORTANT bugs

And yet they leave a bug that renders a job class completely useless to go unfixed for the remaining two weeks.
A bug they've already fixed before, but inexplicably decided to UNfix.

>>123992889
but we already know it reverses dead bosses, how broken is that

>>123993131
except it doesn't

>>123992651
now I have 10 long hastas is this normal?

>full con wiz

what is this new tank machine i'm hearing about?

>>123993131
I thought that was reincarnate? I was trying to find some information about them from the korean beta and I found a link of someone in our beta saying it only works on one or two bosses, so I assumed that was a glitch. Both sound really overpowered. I do think masking should let you re-roll loot boxes though, but only once. That would be really hard to program I guess.

>>123993264
Lord and savior Long hasta.
It's a 20% drop

>>123993264
Yes it's a 10% drop rate.

It's one of the better areas to farm around that level if you need money and not experience. The orange dandels also drop dilgele at a good rate and some 13k selling gloves.

>>123993339
it has perfect synergy with L15 EQ

>>123993264
It's fine, it's 10% drop rate, I've gotten 40 in an hour when farming there early on.
They npc 5k each, not bad.

>>123993403
>>123993419
>>123993563
that explains it

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>join great party for the last couple days
>go from 150 to 170 in no time
>grind some more today
>now level 173 Class Level 13
>still have over 200 level 6 cards
Will the level 6 cards boost me to rank 6 or should I start the level 7 card quests?

>>123993428

Shouldn't you almost be invincible with lvl 15 reflect shield as well?

damn, how does this thing die?

>>123993339
A ran a partial con wizard since my group of friends didn't have a tank and I had to tank. Worked surprisingly well since your defensive stats are useless and the type of armor you use matters more than anything.

>>123991742
>>123991815
I'm totally %100 serious and want some legit feedback on it

is there anything that would prevent me from doing good melee damage? Are the weapons Bokor can wield shit? Would going Monk 6th be a good idea?

is this even remotely feasible? It just seems that I have SO much time in between spells to wack away at targets with basic attacks that I'm wasting time not having a ton of STR

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>>123993762
>she did not save all L1+L2+L3+L4+L5 cards
you screwd up babygurl, better reroll right now

>>123993789
kek, this meme build might actually work if you dont go full con retard

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/sorcerer-feedback/105517/46

>I just got Sorcerer Lvl 1, and I took summoning 1.
>The summon[...]Damage per SP is 2000/3 = 666 Dmg/SP.
>Damage per SP for: Quickcast Energy bolt is ~28 Dmg/SP
>Quickcast Magic missle is ~50Dmg/SP
>The SP efficiency of summoning is monstrous compared to the other 2 Wiz C3 skills.


This nigga not even calculating EQ lv15

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Remember, you can tell what kind of person you're dealing with off their costume choices.
>Barbarian
Retard, Brazilian
>Cataphract
Inferiority complex, mild depression
>Sorceress, Thaumaturge
A walking talking anime
>Clerics, paladins
Shy, will fall apart and melt if you try to kiss them
>Bokor
Slut
>Peltasta
EXTRA SLUT

>>123994159
>sorc L1
>wiz3
>faggoty math
is sure EQ15 tier shitposting

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>>123994252
As a Bokor, I assure you I am extra slut.
Adjust your list accordingly.

>>123986056
I leveled peltasta 2 times in succession (first time I got sick of pelta c2, now I'm going pelta/barb), and I have to say that going to 50 str first before anything else makes a big difference.

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zaibas gets me so fucking wet

this damage

>>123993762
According to my lazily rushed math, it will give you 1 class level. So yes you need to start questing.

>>123993762
use to 175 and do the dungeon or use 6+7 to desired level
>should I start the level 7 card quests?
should of done them by now

>>123994048
I think you should go priest > bokor > monk or something for your build if you want to do it.

>>123994252
>EXTRA SLUT

Uh oh

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>>123986284
It has potential but this CBT was pretty bad even for a beta. There's some really basic things that just weren't present in the test and from the ground out the game has issues like optimization, bad UI causing clutter and frame drops, gamebreaking bugs, an over reliance on multi hit skills and abilities and the biggest one being class balance, particularly when it comes to Archers.

It's very addicting and it has charm though. I'm looking forward to it but

>>123993762

>150 to 170

look at this guy

u could have been 200 already

>>123993762
You're fine, but yes start doing those quests, never go 5 levels above the next quest area.

>post yfw beta extended for 1mo and gets rank 7/8

>>123994252
I'm playing on Saule and BRs seems to enjoy more archers/wizards than barbarians.
Barbielander was a thing on first week but thats it.

Some neet crazy enough try to go con spr reflect shield wizard3>thaum3, this might actually work

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>>123994627
I just learned today that Zombify's "max zombie summons" limit is only PER CAST OF ZOMBIFY, so I'm reconsidering going Bokor3

how about Cleric>Krivis>Bokor>Monk>Bokor>Monk?

Or is Ogouveve too important to miss out on?

The only thing giving me pause is future Cleric classes like Witch Doctor requiring a ton of INT, so obviously this entire build will be a wip until the game is released/we get another beta/we get more class info

I'm hurrying as fast as I can into more Bokor circles because I really wanna get a good feel for the class before doing all this shitty theorycrafting. I'd really appreciate the help of others

>>123986284
I had fun. I'll certainly play it once it's live as long as they fix the most gamebreaking bugs and at least make a halfassed attempt at balancing. All I need is for them to not go overboard on jewing the cash shop.

>>123994910
Not going INT/SPR and transposing CON
It's like you're not even pretending to be retarded

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Why can't I talk to him?

>>123995093
was thinking on the lines of killing shit with reflect but yeah that can also work

>>123995106
He's dead senpai

Pixel kisses are the best thing in this game, prove me wrong.

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Is turn undead decent or smite is better?
I'm basically auto attacking everything as a priest by now and I heard that Smite sucks (at least on Pala1).

>>123993762
Speed through all the quests in the game, it'll take like 3 hours and you literally don't have to grind anymore.

>>123995093
actually scratch killing shit with reflect might actually be viable, guess I'll go retard
>>123995252

>>123995093
>>123995602
I actually remember how hard the bosses hit when they have reflect up

>>123995401
It's really good for what it does, since it affects a surprising amount of enemies, but you have to remember to hit the mob first or it won't give you exp.

>>123995401

i've heard that turn undead kills = 0 exp

>>123995084
Monk is r5. And if you're going phys better take priest.

>>123995353
I think the best thing is when people go back to other generals, to be honest with you, my amigo.

>>123994910
>this might actually work
In being completely useless on its own, Wiz3 does not synergize with Thaum you dont need surespell if you just position yourself right and you'd be safer with Linker for actually landing Swell/Shrink body on something and Thaum's spells are all locked to the animation so you dont need Quick Cast either.

Reflect Shield is 95DMG+Your SPR with attributes so unless you go full SPR you're not reflecting shit. You can get better damage by picking Pyro C1 overall with just Flame Ground, Fireball and Fire Wall if you so choose.

Going full CON just for Transpose is a neat idea but I'm not too sure how that'd play out over just pumping a minimal amount of CON & SPR along with some gems and just dump everything into INT.

>>123995093
Dont go full retard, I've tried it. if you go Full INT your max HP increases but your current HP wont be refilled. If you're going to even bother dicking around with transpose you need a shitton of CON to begin with.

Pyrokino>Thaum may work though since you woudlnt need any SPR.

>>123995919
I would have gone Priest in my current build since it seems objectively more useful than Krivis (yes/no?) but someone talked me out of it. Thank god they did because without Krivis I wouldn't be able to kill anything

how do you? It seems nearly impossible, especially with Bokor. Would I just have to party with people here on release day?

so cleric>priest>bokorc2>monkc

>>123996136
reflect is damage recieved +75+spr unless its not the same for players and bosses

Is it even possible to be a Virgin Sorcerer?

>>123996292
I'm aware of that, Reflect Shield is still shit though because you have much better options in killing things rather than just standing there. You're still taking damage.

>>123996412
No, that's why they mention they wear equipment meant to deal with their summons easily.

>>123995084
>I just learned today that Zombify's "max zombie summons" limit is only PER CAST OF ZOMBIFY

um... what. No.

>>123996262
I'll go sacrifice my priest c2 to test how viable priest> bokor is, too bad I'll probably be busy tomorrow.

>>123996475
I'm still going retard anyway, I got nothing better to do

>>123996412
The Sorcerer quest involves being filled with Demon Semen in every hole so no, it is not possible.

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>go to crystal mines
>people afk autoattacking entrance
>monster gem just laying on the ground

i will gladly take this free money, ty

>>123996412

male sorcerer? sure.

reflect dmg is a good pvp skill. that's one of the reason that the wiz 3 > ele 3 is so good on that team matches, level 15(16) reflect for your team and ofc a good chunk of con and int for your mementalist rocks. spr is useless

>>123995401
>CD: 100s
No, it's not really good.

>>123996475
I'm still casting while standing there

>>123996507
it's telling me my max summons is 8. I think I have more than 8 here lol
>>123995084

>>123996262
I don't think it's a good idea to take priest without taking c2.

Added ch.2 timers for all bosses (except one), and servers.

http://www.tosbase.com/database/monsters/41199/

Does this guy exist anywhere?

>>123995106
use the book on another floor

>>123996770
Male sorcerer can't be a virgin, he starred in a gay porno.

>>123996475
I have this really crazy idea that it will work.

>>123996832
Thanks!

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>80 likes

the life of a qt

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Will mimic copy monster abilities or other class's abilities?

>>123996912

I knew that "Fuck you" guy was familiar.

>>123997047
Given the way druid works, it'll probably suck either way.

>>123996136
actually wouldn't wiz3>thaum>sorc work with this con spr build, poeple who are retard/crazy please help think

>>123998158
>putting con on a wizard
Get a load of this meme

>>123996994

More like the life of a slut. I bet you do things like asking to exchange likes and shit.

>>123998158
C1 Thaum C2 Sorc or C2 Thaum C1 Sorc?

>>123998328
dunno which one is better?

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>>123996412
Cryomancer Sorcerer's are all pure

Pyro Sorcerer's are sluts

>>123996884
thanks

>>123998328
c2 thaum I guess since I see more synergy with that more than sorc c2

>>123998554
What about Wiz C2 Sorcerers

im in need of skillbuild and gear advice for sword1,pelt1,barb3 please

d-does anyone have money they'd be willing to give away to a noob now that beta is coming to an end? I'm super poor and even 50k is a lot to me. I just wanna level up some weapons :<

>>123999021

What do you have planned so far?

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>>123998762
Mitsuba tier purity

>>123999214
Lv10 sword atm, going pelt soon
but dont rly know what next

Now that I'm seriosly considering wiz3>thaum2>sorc. Isn't the sure spell attribute kinda op?

http://www.tosbase.com/database/attributes/201011/

>>123998554

As a Cryo 3 - Sorcerer, I'm therefore the purest.

>>123999320

Well, just go full STR early on.

For barb skills, you want to max Seism, Helm Chopper and Cleave. You can put the rest of your points into Frenzy, Warcry and 1 point of Giant Swing.

For barb build you can go either lots of DEX with some STR, which is mostly about using your skills to deal damage but you have downtime while they are on cooldown.

Or a hybrid with more STR than DEX, so your auto-attacks deal actual damage and don't hit like wet noodles. This means your skills won't be crits as often, but you can still overkill.

Just buy a few reset scrolls to test out different builds, but early on (at least until barb C2), STR is the best.

>>123999531
oh shit ! does that mean... 50% more damage to EQ L15 ? holy fuck. game breaking new build. gg p2w and im going to quit

>>123999537
Hello, my long lost sibling

>>123981454
>strawpoll
>/tosg/
>elitist/end game PVM/PVP/WOE
>implying we won't dominate game
warbros arise

>>123999653
thanks kind anon
is skill spam with elemental meme gear worth it ?
im not looking for 'best dps'. just decent lvling and some fun until beta ends

its for a alt. my main can feed potions and money.

>>124000006

You don't really need any gear, just get the best sword you can get with high physical attack. At level 120 get an awakened Dress Sword (+107 Physical Attack).

You can invest more into gear if you want to, but not necessary. Vubbe gloves help early on though.

>>123999531
if you go wiz3, go ele3. that's the only legitimate reason to ever go wiz3. nothing sorc or thaum has works will with that quick cast attribute.

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How do I do lots of damage with cryokino?

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Best skill per Class: Wizard edition.

>Wizard
Quickcast.

>Pyromancer
Flame Ground.

>Cryomancer
Frost Pillar.

>Psychokino
Psychic Pressure.

>Linker
Joint Penalty.

>Elementalist
Memeteor? well, it's the most funny.

>Thaumaturge
Swell Left Army.

>Sorcerer
Summon Temple Shooter.

>Chronomancer
Haste.

>Alchemist
Item Awakening.

>Necromancer
Create Shoggoth.


Come at me, bros.

>>124000245
read above the thread for my retarded con spr reflect idea. I'm not doing it for legitimate reasons.

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>>124000294
run in front of boss, cast icewall right under them, reflect shield, psycho pressure until it dies

how crazy does this sound:
an attribute for enchant fire that adds one more extra hit. possibly even one per attribute level.

>>124000346
>Elementalist
Frost Cloud, it combines Cryomancer's CC with Pyro's Flame Ground

>>124000346
>Pyromancer
Balls Nìgger

>>124000440

OP. Do you want people with 5 attack lines?

Fucking shit Reflect does the reflect twice on level 15

>>124000346
Bwa Kaiman
Sacrament+blessing
Doublepunch
Stone SHot

>>124000685
oh wait that might be reflect 9 times total per cast. never mind

>>124000659

Fireball is not that good, hard to work in parties. OFC it's pretty good and has some cool combos, but the FG is the one that you'll lay on the floor and your party throw the mobs into and no melee will fuck with that. both skills are very good, but for this sole reason i put FG above FB.

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I find it weird that c3 elementalist just gets 2 frost moves. You'd think it would be some combination of the 4 elements.

>>124000771

i'd like to see a full list per cleric class.

>>124000883
ok, sounds legit.

i dont party a lot and got link1 for epic ball combo
nvm me

>>124001021

C4 elementalist will turn you into the fucking Avatar.

>>124000667
yes. yes i do. it would be good fun and lots of numbers!

what if it's a pyro c3 attribute

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If I use all my cards will I be able to get to r6? I want to afk some awakenings for /tosg/ while I study

>>124001374

http://calc.ragnosphere.com/

>>124001021
i find this super weird as well. elementalist seems to be tilted towards Ice damage, what with the two way wombo combo with cryomancer. there doesn't seem to be any interesting synergy with fire skills, past the explosion attribute which i'm pretty sure doesn't work anyway

>>124001374

imo u should pop only enough to stay at that 5-10 level exp zone of the oon going quest maps.

you'll lost some decent exp if u stay too far above the level of the monsters.

i liked that reddit post of yours, with the hidden name

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>>124001187
>implying c4
Archer C7 will be the best with 36 hits multishot!
Also, phoenix shot.

>>124001461
Oh thanks
>32.7% into level 11

Welp

>>124001504
I think Cryo gets those attributes that massively increase electric damage on frozen targets, ya? That must make electrocute really strong. Once mimics are out and can copy Zaibas Cryo will be number 1, you'll all see.

how do i level up a pet when i'm already high level?

>>124001461
oh wow, this is great.

thanks lad

Do we have any Chronomancers anons?

>>124001714
>i liked that reddit post of yours, with the hidden name

What

>>124000883
Flame ground is almost silly good compared to some of the rank 2 offerings.

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/tlvanqxj9u/

some spr, mostly con, maybe some str or int (depends on how transposes equilibrium works}

Youre basically a tanky melee reflect wizard with some spells until rank 6 then you turn into a melee tanky reflect wizard with some spells with a friend who does damage.

Now to actually level this

>>124001939
yeah, and elementalist gets a matching attribute that boosts electrocute dmg on frozen targets. throw a joint penalty boosting lightning damage into the mix...

>>124002292
So why is c1 elementalist considered weak? That sounds ridiculous.

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Scythe class when?
For that mixed feeling of qtdomgirl + edgy.

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>>124002281
>wiz3
>but not eq15
how much can you even screw up

>>124000346
Absolutely, devastatingly accurate

Alchemist is tough though, honestly potions are very very fucking lucrative, we'll have to see what the real OBT awakening list looks like.

>>124002396
because it actually still kind of sucks. Also Cryomancer can't freeze a monster long enough to cast Electrocute and Hail can't freeze until C2. It works okay in parties though.

>>124002428
eq is useless once you actually understand the concept of elemental weakness

>>124001461
Why are people suddenly linking to a shitty website when the excel sheet is superior?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2VuMyfpCIiua3JMdWdUUWFjams/view

>>124002049
>>124001939

No problem! Thank the dude on the forums that made it, really useful. Saved my life quite a bit.

btw guys remember that this probably doesn't take into account the bonus exp that may sometimes pop whenever you eat your healthy EXP Salad.

>>124002420
I don't think they need to be adding any more weapon types... all the classes with skill / weapon restrictions really shits on the available builds.

>>124002428
also flying enemies, not every meme can be forced

>>124002509
Oh is the cast time of electrocute that long? Well that's disappointing. I guess it wouldn't be much good on bosses either.

>>124002728
Fair, but I still doubt it would get me to 15. I'll just afk some attributes today like usual.

>>124002509
>Cryomancer can't freeze a monster long enough to cast Electrocute
Yeah that's a shame, It need high coordination to cast Electrocute after freezing the enemy with ice bolt

>>124002891
>>124002509
Why not just freeze them with icewall so they get frozen again while you cast it?

>>124002891

How come you can't freeze them long enough? I can't say what Electrocute's cast time is, but Ice Bolt freezes for 5 secs. That's more than enough to cast most spells afterwards.

>>124002396
>>124002509
ideally i would want to try this with cryo1 > linker1> ele3. electrocute scales pretty well with the skill points. i got nothing for the freeze duration though. the freeze from hail seems to last pretty damn long but i'm not sure if the cryo attribute works with it.

i would try it if i could muster the patience to level up with cryo/linker

Does Stop pause debuffs on the enemy? Could it be used to get 100% uptime on some debuffs?

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>>124002742
I just want a qtgirl that fights for the semen demons.
Fuck those goddesses.

>>124003396
cryo/linker really isn't so bad. R2 is perfectly fine since pike is one shotting everything, and bolt is 1-2 shotting everything. Linker is linker so it makes for an easy rank as well, then when you get ele you can use that for damage. The build wouldn't be bad at all, just not pyro/linker spoiled.

Is anyone here:
Psychokino 3
Thaum->Sorc/Necro
Pardoner2

I had some questions that I wanted some info on here.

Raise - Does it CC or just turn them into flying.
If CC, can mages/archer still hit you while cc'd
Is it just the circle around you? Is the duration for mobs in the air or duration of circle?
What happens if they're inside the circle and not on the circle?
Gravity Pole - What's the width range on it look like?

Does swell's extra damage work on Summons?
Are there any hijinks with summon pvp against a thauma to gain extra damage?


Indulgentia - Is the skill aoe? Does it use aoe ratio or true AoE? How large of an area?

>>124002719
Yeah this is pretty infuriating, the spreadsheet has been around longer and is simple to use and works well.
The site might be easier for scrubs who have never touched excel though so who knows.

>>124002719
how do I edit the cells

rate pls
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/hxv9d5bjun/

>>124003585
yeah, my main is pyro c2 WITHOUT linker and i'm still spoiled by how super easy it is to just grind on flame ground. still, i might give cryo/linker a shot if i get bored of awakening stuff.

>>124003591
>Does swell's extra damage work on Summons?
>Are there any hijinks with summon pvp against a thauma to gain extra damage?

No it does not work, but there are some buffs that work on my summon from sorc, will do more testing before beta.

>>124003734

People kind of prefer what is prettier, cleaner and looks easier to use. Sadly the site has all of that when compared to excel.

>>124003734
why? once its out on the internet you have no control or ownership of it also its other people problem if they wanna use the site instead of of the obviously superior excel one.

>>124003760
You save a copy for yourself and use it at your leisure.

>>124003585
Cryo/linker is bad later on against the mobs with 30k+ hp but otherwise it's pretty good, it will even kill swelled mobs decently.

>>124003760
Click open in top and it makes the sheet for you on your own google account (copies it essentilaly)

Then edit like normally, click into the ones that matter (Fairly obvious?) and type in the number you want.

>>124003980
The excel is actually much cleaner, just as simple to use (unless you've never used excel and are getting lost because of that, but honestly if you've played games for more than the last 5 years chances are if you ever minmaxed at all you are very familiar with spreadsheet programs)

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soloing the 90 dun is pretty good exp
took 61 minutes

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>tfw linker is so broken that i will pick this circle in my r6

>>124004874
i really feel like linker is way too front-loaded into c1. that's a helluva lot of crap you get for just a single rank3 class

>>124004860

61 minutes? Sheesh, what class did you use?

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>>124004874
>tfw pyro is so broken that i would consider picking it above every other dps class at any ranks

>>124005027
bokor

>>124004860
What class? It shouldn't take that long unless it's not a class very suited for it.

>>124004860

lol i remember doing this when parties system was broken. wall, pressure, bonfire, alt tabto shitpost in /tosg/... i miss the 90's

>>124005250

Oh dear. How'd you manage?

>>124004168
That's assuming you aren't taking any other damage trees though. I was talking about in context of the build he mentioned. If you're using cryo as your only damage source all the way through then it's going to be a little suffering.

>>124003591
No, you can't swell arm your summons. You do get a good amount of extra damage from familiars though since they hit 5 times, same with flesh cannon.

>>124005018
maybe joint penalty shouldn't do 100% splash damage then, make the damage scale with the level so people actually have to get more circles in it

>>124005018
The bigger problem is how underwhelming c2/3 are comparatively.

Bring back linking up to 15 targets and 1 target per level and linker will be good.

Better yet
L1 3
L4 4
L5 5
L6 5
from here scale roughly 1 per level
L10 10
L11 11
L15 15
L16 16
Makes gems relevant and takes away the biggest problem being the chain difference of only 2 from C1-2 due to gem.

Then just nerf the recursive damage from AoEs a bit for balance instead.

>>124004874
Linker and chrono should be swapped

>>124005660
This is also a good idea. Hangman should stay in c1, unlike what some people are suggesting though. It makes the class a lot of fun and fun should never be nerfed.

>>124005440
my main damage spell is bugged and does 1/3rd of what it should

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How could thauma be any better?
Unlock big head at C1?