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We are all lazy edition

Previous >>123799787

Hours gone by without DW fucking something up: 73
(Change to "Days" if higher than 100)


>[Fate/GUDAGUDA Honnouji event]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/quest_event_20151125.php
November 25 19:00 to ??? (December 11 13:59) JST
- Nobunaga is a free 4* event servant
- Ascension items are skulls from the shop (Check stock!)
- Milestone ladder awards extra Nubunaga copies:http://pastebin.com/vx4ydHd4
- Use promo servants (see link) to gain more points

- The first Nobu copy you get is temporary, at 100k points it BECOMES PERMAMENT and keeps the exp you gave her
- Copies after that are for NP upgrade

>Farming guide
- 10 AP until you get all you want from that, basically skull and 5* CE
- Then 20 AP until you get skull, 5* CE and all ascensions mats you want
- Then 30 AP if you don't have medusa ce or/and need bowls (gives a mix of bowls and spiders)
- Or 40 AP if you have medusa ce
- 30 AP on average gives 2k hp, 40 AP on average gives around 3k hp

>[Honnouji limited event gatcha]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/summon.php#limited
- Rate up in the Event gatcha for:
- 5* Okita souji (will be gone after event)
- 4* Emiya
- 3* Medusa, Lancer cu and Mephistopheles
- 5* Gudaguda poster girl
- 4* Launch order!
- 3* Fate gudaguda order


>News and Reminders
- Latest changes
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php
- Comptiq's interview with Higashide and Sakurai (about London)
http://pastebin.com/ipaXkpd2
- Regular Maintenance: Every Wed from 14:00 to 16:00 JST


>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>Data Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WI4dKGcwWjn5XpTgfLsK8c0cipRzrWbVpiLGeVr55Ks/htmlview?sle=true#
Toaster version:
http://pastebin.com/jtxyf37T

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/
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Too lazy to bake bread apparently. Also Ozzy and stuff
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xth for should have let it die into the abyss
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Every thread until Astolfo
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xth for Robin Hood a cute!
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I actually got kind of scared
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This game is gay.
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>>123828716
My daughteru!
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fucking WHEN
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xth for semiramis never
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I'll take it
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>>123828884
Would have made it sooner but I was downloading some stuff for that Okita account

Speaking of which thanks again anon
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>the amount of niggers clicking ctrl-r for new thread
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>>123829036
My Husbando! we are a gay couple
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>feeling depressed as fuck
>do a 40 AP
>Mata Hari drops a GUDAO CE
>get a milestone reward for HP
>40th Quartz
>do a 10-roll

OH
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Curse DW for making me wait this long.
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>>123829198
Fuck off homo, my waifu is Cake.
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id geebs habbening
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>>123829369
you could simply make him dress up as marie
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Can someone just translate the rest of Fuyuki as a script, i'm dying over here
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>>123829147
I was baking one too, but the OP is getting so big my "edition" pushed it over 2000 words. Thankfully yours popped up. Also captcha is freaking out on me.

Tuberculosis a cute.
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>Tfw the mata hari daily is literally unfarmable for you because you leveled Medusa and not Meph
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Who's that one servant you have that makes this monotonous grind of a game worth playing? Pic related.
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>>123829458
Why would I want to do that?
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>>123829575
why not?
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>>123829147
hopefully you at least get to 100k points so you can keep the nobu though getting all the skulls would be hard. I think that account had close to 20 apples so you could probably get close.
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>>123829572
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>tfw there's an absolute madman guy with level 4 NP Emiya and Medusa CE

too bad he doesn't appear more often or how most of my friends all have gudao

anyway how many gold cards does it take to get a new servant to level 50 or 60? so many people with nobus and okitas at those levels not even counting those that are already 70 or more
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>>123829575
i will be your Sanson if you do
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>>123829572
He was the first Servant I went full autismo for in GO and maxed out. He makes me feel so powerful I feel like I'm gimping myself using any team without him.
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>>123829654
Why? Do you want me to stick in your butt while you self insert as Marie? Do you want to be a newhalf or something?
>>123829718
I'm not the anon proposing to crossdress and cosplay as Cake.
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I want a ko-gil
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This slut doesn't spread em for just anyone I guess
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>- 30 AP on average gives 2k hp, 40 AP on average gives around 3k hp

This is grossly inaccurate
Just list the baseline values, which are 1300 for 40 AP and something like 500-1000 for 30 AP

We also don't need the entire limited gatcha written out in the OP.
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>>123829689
I might not bother unless I get another device to put it on. Flip flopping between accounts scares the shit out of me since awhile back I nearly lost two accounts from doing it. Course it was the day the gil event started so that's on me
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Gotta marry this clown.
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>>123829789
5/5 NP?
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>>123829968
I'd sniff that butt.
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>>123829572
I was going to quit the game but then the 4* giveaway happened
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>>123829805

drawanon pls
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>>123829917
you can put one account on your pc. I use bluestacks to play the game as my tablet runs it like shit.
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>>123829064
>your

c u c k
u
c
k
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>>123830168
DELETE THIS
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>>123830168
I still don't understand this image
I can't think of a single connection
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>>123830168
If you're going to cvck his shit up, cvck it all the way. http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=53796696
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>>123829984
No, sadly. Only 3/5

I don't whale so I had to rely purely on luck to get what I did, so I've max-fou'd him to try and make up for that.
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>>123830168
Caligula-senpai a vampire?
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>>123830107
What do you mean I'm playing two accounts on bluestacks right now
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>>123830168
But why?
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Until I reach you by the end of London,
I'll keep enduring all these days of boredom.

Please, marry me!
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>>123830107
In a couple days or so I'll be getting another new phone so I should be able to put it on there with little issue. Main issue is the gears that Okita needs for an ascension. How much does she need exactly?
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>>123830074
Please what?
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>>123830498
15 in total, her 3rd ascension needs 5 and her 4th needs 10
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>>123830168
>>123830440
You fucks post the weirdest shit at 6:00

>>123829038
Are you drunk or did you just break
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>>123830385
I thought you were playing on a tablet. if you are already using bluestacks then I can't help you.
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>>123830168
What the fuck do they have in common? Why would anyone draw this?
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>>123829572

He just seems like he'd be a really good friend.
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>>123830520

>>123829458
>>123829805
>>123829718
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>>123830667
>tfw Blackbeard killed two Gomamon and put their skulls on his coat
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>>123829860
>onii-chan what are we going to do on the bed
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>>123830558
Oh fuck me. Well I might be able to get her 3rd ascension at least
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So since it's probably happening, what's the one's that could work as a 6*?

Note they don't have to be particularly the one's that are uber OP like Caster Jesus or Galactica Saber as some of the 5*'s are random choices.

Saber: Proto Arthur
Archer: Proto Gil
Lancer: Hitler
Rider: Santa
Caster: Demiservant Emiya Shirou (or if he's Avenger, I guess Jesus would work)
Assasin: Ryoma or Mitsuhide
Berserker: Arc
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Rate my team
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>>123830691
You want me to draw two anons having gay crossdressing sex while one is Sanson and the other is Marie?
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>>123830779
Best bait all day
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>>123830769
>stopping at the 3rd ascension
good luck with that reverse S growth curve
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>>123830842
Yes.
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>no memelot

pussy
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>>123830779
The only 6* we might get is whatever ends up being the deal with the grand class shit
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>>123830340
>found this while searching for more of this crackship by checking the tags
Why?
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>>123830779
Saber: Proto Saber
Archer: Proto Gil
Lancer: Karna/Enkidu
Rider: Perseus
Caster: Merlin or Morgan le Fay.
Assassin: King Hassan
Berserker: Warp Spasm Cu
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>>123830827
too many sabers
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>>123830779
>proto arthur
Not female
>proto gil
Not female
>hitler
pls
>santa
pls
>emiya
Hmmmmmmmm. no
>ryoma or Mitsuhide
Whatever
>Arc
Kek. In 2022
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>>123830909
I'm going to leave this general now.
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>>123830921
lancelot isn't swole, why would he be there?
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How many party members of your team fell prey of the slut pheromones?
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>>123830827
No Kintoki/10
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>>123830879
I don't think I'll be able to get 15 gears with 10 apples and 11 days to go. Hopefully the Christmas event has them
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>>123830615
I want my damn Servant already. I'm somewhat jealous of everyone else getting theirs!
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>>123830779

>hitler

Excellent taste Herr Anon
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>>123830961
I'M GOTTA WRECK IT!
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>>123831080
I want illya
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>>123830961
can ralph handle gilgamesh by himself?
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Nero or Siegfried?
Which one should I waste my Saber monuments on?
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>>123830961
Is herk going to wreck another pussy?
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>>123830779
BB
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When?
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>>123831015
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>>123830981
>alright those all seem believ-
>perseus

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, I wonder whose behind this post. Back to to bullying Medusa, fuccboi.
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>>123830827
>Vlad
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>>123831170
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>>123831170
Siegfriend
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>>123831224

>no doujin of Medusa getting tired of Persues' shit and domming him

why even live
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>>123831015
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>>123831170
There's only one answer you know
>>123831343

Never trust a whore
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>>123830981
I'd actually like Persues. Emiya may end up liking the dude though he wouldn't know why. I'd make a team with him Emiya, Rin, Sakura, and, Taiga (if ever)

Merlin prob couldn't as he's still alive but Morgan's pretty important I wonder why she hasn't been mentioned yet.
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>>123831170
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>>123831224

>being this salty over getting BTFO by Harpe

Jeez I wonder who's behind this post?
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>>123831478
>Morgan's pretty important I wonder why she hasn't been mentioned yet.
She has.
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once again I didn't switch back to my proper item farming team before going ahead

so /fgog/ how many times you've made mistakes during this event?

rolling doesn't count
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In a realistic fight, what Berserker class servant in FGO could give Heracles trouble and possibly defeat him 12 times?
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>>123831478
Perseus is a solid guy, I actually really like him., especially his mask design. But anyone who thinks he's anything higher than mid-tier is delusional. A six star Rider would be someone like Pale Rider/Achilles/Ozzy. Even though I'm postive six stars will never be a thing. Or at least not for a long while.

>>123831636
The jews of course. Calm down, perseus, I didn't mean to trigger you.
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>>123831816
Me
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>>123831816

He can't survive 12 bombing runs from an F-15J.
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>>123831768
I took a jeanne with the Medusa ce to the 10ap several times
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>>123831816
Lancelot
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>>123831816
We've only seen true level Heracles in Oceanus region, where he had twelve lives and it took a lot of effort to beat him.

Yet we did see a realistic scenario of him being beaten there.

Generally due to game-play limitations we can't see any of the servants full power normally. Unless they just make a section of the plot about that.
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>>123831816
Lu Bu maybe? or if we're counting absolutely anything maybe Thor
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>>123831816
Honestly? Asterios
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>>123831840
Almost 100% sure 6+ stars will be exclusively tied to grail ascended servants like in most mobages.
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>>123831881
Wouldn't have to

He'd be immune after the first one
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>>123831967
Would be nice if they added some animated cut scenes.
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>>123831840
>>123832070
6* are reserved for when DW hits a rough spot and needs an injection of cash,
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>>123831690
That Saber looks swole as fuck.
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Okay i would rather take a bullet to the head then slog then mara again. How do you fuck up an event this bad?
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>>123831967
You wanted DW to make him immune to anything but A rank stuff? you're not very smart
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>>123831840
>>123832070
It's going to be the grand class servants which was datamined a while back
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>>123831840

Persues is definitely 6* tier, have you seen how strong and fearsome is? Look at pic related, this hardcore motherfucker managed to kill that with just harpe, If that's not 6* tier I don't know what is.
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>>123832229
Why not? Seems like a good reason to make people roll the gatcha.
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>>123832478
You-know-who is way more likely to be 6* than fucking Perseus
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>>123832478
Archer herk must be 7* tier then :^)
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>>123831881
>>123831916
Nothing in their repertoire can penetrate God Hand 12 times. They would die before they reached the 12th kill.

>>123831967
Realistic fight, as in all servants have everything in their disposal and aren't gimped.

>>123832013
Interesting, explain how Lu Bu can give Heracles trouble, and possibly kill him 12 times.

>>123832020
Really? Explain.
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>>123832229
Don't believe I said that really

I'm saying that of course you don't really see any of the servants at their realistic level here, due to gameplay limitations. The one asking the question asked about a realistic fight about these characters, outside of a simple gameplay perspective.

If you talking about true twelve lives Heracles, we can't really measure that here outside of one section of the plot. But on the same side of the coin, we don't really see a lot of the servants true power either, just like Herc.

Because of this on another third side of the coin, we don't really know a real extent of what some of the characters can actually do, because we've only seen their abilities in this game.

I think Asterios NP lowers the stats of all who get stuck inside of his Labyrinth, but that's about it in terms of guessing. Would help to see a few of these people in an actual war. Its hard to say on a few of the others. Pretty sure Vlad's NP as Berserker works different than his Lancer self as well.

or I just forget what point I was trying to raise when I originally brought it up, and I just said most of this after looking at my comment and trying to figure it out.
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>>123832681
His stats are pretty great and he has an EX ranked NP
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>>123832478
>just harpe

You mean five other NPs mean to specifically counter Medusa. And yet the guy still struggled to win.

Also >hardcore motherfcuker

>He was completely fearless until arriving at the island, where just the nature of the island's barrier made him uncertain of victory despite having gifts from the gods. He quickly began to lose any feeling of glory, and simply wished to slay the creature as soon as possible so he could leave. He felt complete dread upon meeting the Gorgon, believing his promised glory to be useless and victory to be impossible even with the holy relics.

Perseus I love you. But this is embarrassing.
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What do you think Heroic Tales will be?

How will the promo servants be relevant in the story?

What do you think the grails will do?
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>>123832681
>Really? Explain.

Asterios has pretty high stats, higher STR than Heracles, and its already confirmed in canon that he can give Heracles a pretty good fight.

He and ungimped Herc fight in Okeanus briefly, but due to the situation Asterios wasn't able to demonstate things fully or use his NP. Rather it was just a Goku and Piccolo vs Raditz type situation, where Asterios held him down and they both got penetrated by some dick.

Asterios can make an entire speech while holding back Heracles, about his love for Eurdyne.
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>>123832842
At least he'll be easy to roll.
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>>123832681

Lancelot can just snipe hercules from a distance until he dies, it'll take a long ass time but Hercules doesn't have the tracking skills to find a Lancelot that's sniping him
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>>123832862
They will be never implemented. never ever. Because DW a shit.

Pormo servants will be mostly gatcha event bullshit

Grails will also never be implemented, poor fools that keep hanging on to that idea
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>>123832862
Hopefully something that unlocks a second NP

Maybe something in Babylonia or are the grand class servants

Raises cap to 100 and unlocks heroic tales
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>>123833068
His hypothetical sniper rifle wouldn't be of a high enough rank to penetrate God Hand.
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>>123832681
Not him but Lorewise Lu Bu is a a strong motherfucker and Godforce is a multi form NP that can break through Godhand, so Lu Bu could in theory just switch enough to kill the guy.

It'd honestly be a pretty hype match up because Herc's a little faster but Lu Bu can tank a bit better.
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>obvious facebook scammers want to buy my account
>instead of ignoring them or calling them out, decide to give them hope that I'm a sucker
>kept stalling with excuses, making them waste their time while I do other shit
>decide to give them ID: r6Em9m7ACs Pass: Suoivbo1 which backwards spell obvious scammer

need more ways to fuck with them, idea?
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>>123832681
His stats are pretty damn good plus he can cycle God Force between Halberd and Cannon, thus allowing him way more maneuverability thank Herk
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>>123832842
>>123833048

That's just slander against him because he's not a waifu while Medusa is. Also

>type-moon wiki
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>emptied the mana prism shop of all summon tickets
>15 summon tickets later
good lord singles are gross. I wish I had this luck on my main.I wish I still had summon tickets in the shop on my main.
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>>123833173
Make some level 1 accounts and name them stuff like "reddit go home"
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>>123833173
I'd take it but i'm content with my accounts thx anyways
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Anyone with casko+medusa ce here?
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>>123833358
If anyone is willing to do this for me I'd be grateful. I don't wanna bother installing an emulator to make a new account.

I'll post reactions if anyone wants.
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I want to take care of Okita.
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>>123833223
>>123832478

Both pictures you've posted now are from the Type-moon wiki. You didn't even change the filenames. You're slipping perseus. And yes it's perseus, not persues. Just read prototype, already. He's a decent-ish rider, but nothing outstanding when fighting anything other than the big snek. And even then he can't git gud.

Now hurry up and get into the gatcha.
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>>123833068
Forget God Hand, that wouldn't even work because Eye of the Mind.
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>friend with Okita and Medusa CE changes it to Gudao
ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED YOU FUCKING FUCK
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Havent lurked the threads in a while. Since when is quartz a drop? Naisu.
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>>123833068
Those d rank bullets must be pretty amazing to get though Herk skin.
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If anyone wants an Okita support. Feel free to add me. Here's my Friend Code: 883,216,317

lvl 80 - 90 Casters, Sabers, Berserker would be really appreciated. I've got around 27 slots free since I was inactive for like about a month and lots of people with strong servants removed me.

I'll level up my Okita to lvl 90 in no time after I reach the 100,00 points milestone. I have about 20 Saber monuments and all of the necessary materials to max her out.
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Best CE for Tamano?
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>>123831018
Title: 後日宝具の説明ちゃんと読みました
マタ・ハリー陽の眼を持つ女
Mata Hari: Woman with Eyes of the Day

くっ・・・
Kuh!

セイバーが魅了された!?
Saber has been charmed!?
元はアーサー王伝説の主人公アーサーだからな
Well, she is Arthur, the main character of Arthurian Legend.
ち○こついているって認識されたんだろ(世界に)
That pretty much confirms, to the world, she has a dick, right?

じゃ・・・ジャンヌまで・・・
Even Jeanne...
女性の英霊なのに・・・
But she is a female heroic spirit...
一度戦場に出ちまえば女心ってやつを捨ててねーといけねえからなあ・・・
That one time she went out to the battlefield, and disregarded her femininity definitely wasn't a good thing, huh
ち○こついているって認識されたんだろ
That pretty much confirms she has a dick, right?

まあ・・・
Oh my!

・・・!?!?!?
・・・・・・・あー
Yep
英霊なんてなっちまえばアレだ、男とか女とか曖味になるっつーか・・・
She's one of "those" cases. After becoming a heroic spirit, her gender became ambiguous, huh
ち○こついているって認識されたんだろ
That pretty much confirms she has a dick, right?
いや先輩何素直に全部聞き入れてるんですか
ついてませんよ・・・
Senpai, are you honestly going to accept all of that at face value? And no I don't have one...
ついてませんからね!?
You don't believe I have one, right?
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>>123833746
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>>123833769
Who is this nignog in red?
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>>123833769
cute
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>>123833595
jesus man
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>>123833769
Looks like something out of a Disney movie.
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>>123833790
The 5* rin or prisma
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>>123833780
Just as I start my bowl grind, well i'll add you after this
save 2 slots
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>>123833867
why are the names censored
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>>123833595

>He's a decent-ish rider, but nothing outstanding when fighting anything other than the big snek

Actually he'd be the perfect counter to Ozzy since his NP can turn his RM inside out.
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>>123831816
>in F/GO
None. Vlad with a Master like Darnic, in his home territory, stacking the deck in every way possible may have a chance but it would be very slim. Lancelot has excellent instinct with weapons but it's doubtful he's coherent enough to realize he actually needs to switch out to new ones once God Hand kicks in. As another anon said, maybe Lu Bu since his weapons have a large variety of uses and thus methods to kill Herakles.

>In the whole franchise
Thor is almost certainly an even match.
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>>123834016
Why is his spear bent
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>>123832478
>>123833223
>>123834016
Why would someone try to make Perseus the new memeservant/powerlevel shitter? Do you just go through the Type-Moon wiki and and throw darts at their screen?
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>>123833025
That would be a good fight, though I'm wondering if he can really shave off all 12 lives by himself. Considering Heracles has a rather potent Battle Continuation, and Mind's Eye.

>>123833169
>>123833218
Lu Bu sounds damn powerful. Wish I could see that fight.
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>>123833675
And you faggots call me autistic for making my own supports so this shit doesn't happen to me
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>>123833819
Mashu doesn't seem to realize that mana transfers would be far easier that way.
>>123834098
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harpe
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>>123834056
Okay what's the deal about Thor being a servant? Is it something from prisma?
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>>123834186
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If Shinji summoned Persues, would they have perfect compatibliity since Persues is a "successful shinji?"
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>>123834186
>The War God Five Soldiers [noble phantasm] P181-182
>This is Berserker’s anti-person, anti-army, and anti-fortress Noble Phantasm.
>The War God Five Soldiers is the true name of Lu Bu’s main weapon, which is a two-handed halberd. It can be changed into six different forms, which makes it as though Lu Bu has six Servant’s worth of Noble Phantasms.
>1.Slash: This nullifies all kinds of physical defense and causes heavy damage.
>2.Thrust: A heavy damage attack used to pierce through multiple enemy units that are lined up straight. It also stuns the enemy (the halberd piercing the enemy seals their movements).
>3.Strike: The halberd is transformed into a pair of giant bracers and increases Lu Bu’s defense. It can also be used in a special defensive manner to stop the enemy’s attack in its tracks and perform a counter move.
>4.Mow Down: Destroys a horizontal line of enemies with huge damage.
>5.Exterminate: A special counter move that reflects physical attacks and damages the enemy.
>6. Shoot: Everyone’s favorite “Lu Bu Beam” that shoots from the halberd transformed into a large wave-motion cannon.
>It wouldn’t be strange to see other Servants muttering, “Isn’t he more than enough by himself?”
>His halberd is quite the masterpiece.
>Slash, Thrust, Strike, Mow Down, Exterminate. It’s an omnipotent weapon that can be used to cover all the large two handed weapon attacks. (*However, this weapon didn’t actually exist in the time of the Song Dynasty which is when Lu Bu was alive.)
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>>123834056
>switch out to new ones
Where would Lancelot get the weapons? It's not like he has his own personal Gilgamesh to throw weapons at him, and random stuff he grabs don't suddenly become A rank.
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>>123834016
Pray tell, what would turning Ozzy's temple inside out do? It was only effective to breaker Gorgon because it is sight-based, and forced Medusa to look upon her own nightmare. Besides that, Ozzy is far more than just a temple. I doubt he would even feel the need to bring it out against someone of perseus' level.

>>123834167
This is likely. Though I'm trying to stop this because I like perseus and don't want to see him become a meme.
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>realize I have shit to burn
>exchange prisms for summoning ticket
>spend 10 minutes wondering whether I should use it or save it
>bah fuck it
SINGLES
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Design team or partner NPs. We could ignore how to do it (Something like both servants need 200% NP or something). Doesn't have to be too balanced just fun.

Emiya+Arturia: Caliburn (Single target, ignores defence and buffs, 700% Multiplier) or Avalon (Lasts for 3 turn with Invul, Regen, and NP increase. Emiya and Saber don't do damage when they attack)

Drake+Blackbeard: Booty Call. (Multi target. Rains stars and increases chance of red chests to appear iof killed by move.)

Okita+Nobu: Fusion Evil Saber (Immediately wins the the stage. All treasures gained are forfeited)

Liz+Carmilla-Bloody Bath (Basically Carmilla's NP but multi target, heals more, and ignores defense)

Iskander+Waver- IH (Whatever Iskander's NP does combined with Waver's NP with 100% chance on stun and extra buffs.)

Sasaki+Herc-Hundred Heads Tsubame Gaeshi (Combine their NPs)

Double Casko- Double Dynamic Entry (Single target. Both punch enemy which causes enemy to explode which hits others.)

Gorgon Sisters: Gorgon Island (3 turn stun.)

Longinus+Robin: King of the Forest (Summons Trees around enemy. Robin rains arrows from all directions with Poison)

Lancelot+Atilla:Jet of the War God(Atilla's sword opens up to become a propeller which she uses to become a jet. Lancelot than uses her to mow down enemies)

Kintoki+Tesla: Golden Dawn (Huge shockwave which stuns. Phone's screen brightness is increased as well.)
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>>123834429
>The War God Five Soldiers is a Chinese gadget masterpiece designed for Lu Bu by the super tactician Chen Gong.
>The tactician Chen Gong saw Lu Bu’s strength as that of a war god.
>China’s ancient god of war, Shiyuu, is said to be the inventor of the battle axe, the shield, and the bow and arrow. He is also said to have carried a different weapon in each of his six arms.
>Chen Gong imagined Lu Bu in a similar fashion, and so he designed this weapon with a main form and five additional forms. Lu Bu’s multifaceted weapon could blossom freely on the battlefield, and was on the level of a man-made Noble Phantasm.
>However, Lu Bu is a Berserker, so he cannot use anything but the main halberd form in EXTRA.
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I made this if anyone cares. It's pretty basic and does what it says.

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>>123834348
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>>123834186
You mean "sounds like a lizard"
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>>123834348
It's one of the cards the Ainsworth use, yes. They have pretty OP shit.
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>>123833780
You want those classes during the event or after the event
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Will London have Arturia Lancer Alter? If so, LONDON WHEN?
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>>123834572
Would you let her give you a handjob?
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>>123834429
>However, this weapon didn’t actually exist in the time of the Song Dynasty which is when Lu Bu was alive.
>Song Dynasty
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>>123834434
Lancelot with his own personal Gilgamesh would finally make the unrivaled wanking make sense...And would be funny
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>>123834572
Please don't tell me this is Thor
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>>123834348
Yes, Prisma has a class card of Thor Berserker, implying that if the rules are bent a little he can be summoned.
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>>123834672
No. Jerusalem will have all of the Arthurian knight servants
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>>123834731
Its someone who has equipped Thor's soul/power

That is not physically him, but she is wearing him.
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>>123834558
Normal Berserker Lu Bu can use both Halberd and Cannon
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>>123834458

Once he's escaped Ozzy's NP, he would use his sandles to avoid any of Ozzy's strikes and close in the distance to behead him with Harpe. Simple really.
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>>123834731
It's one of the shitty Prisma Illya villains using the Thor class card, which gives you Mjolnir and one of the gauntlets/fucking mutant arms apparently needed to wield it.
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>>123834842
Don't question the data book entries

He could probably only use the Cannon technically.
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Mashu is gonna die in the end of F/GO, how will you save her?
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>>123834731
No, that's Beatrice using the Thor card. You know like most of the installs in Prisma.
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asterios!
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>>123834558
>>123834429
>Song Dynasty
>Shiyuu
Fucking translators.
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>>123834880
tfw Angelica will be the closest we'll ever get to a Gil-ko
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>>123834965
I'm not interested in fate/pedo-bait so I wouldn't know
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>>123834978
>bullying asterios
Fuck you gudaoko
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>get a buster brave chain with kintoki
>open with GOLDEN SPAAAAAHK
>kills mata hari from full hp
Feels good.
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>>123834965
woah Miyu looks pretty busty in that image
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>>123835036
Still mad about that anticlimactic anime-original ending.
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>>123834978
Why is fluffy so cute?
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>>123834936
Berserker Lu Bu, can only use Halberd(sweep) and Arrow(cannon)
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>>123834664
During the event and also After the event. I will use those classes a lot in 'support' from now on since I finally got a decent Saber. I have no strong Berserker or Caster, you see.
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>>123831437
>>123830909
>>123830842
Fucking deviants
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>>123835286
Anon caster Liz is enough
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>>123834936
>Don't question the data book entries
You mean the same ones that say he's from a Dynasty 800 years later?

Or are you going to tell me Lu Bu's a time traveling Berserker terminator?
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>>123835146
That's what happens when 7 Illyas are around her.
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>>123835431
What, her tits get bigger the more illyas are around her?
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>>123835406
Considering he's a dinosaur, I'd say chances of him being a time-traveler are high.
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>>123835372

>requoteing those posts

Jeez anon, that's quite suspicious wouldn't you agree?
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>>123834949
That's what the grails are for. You collect the 7 grails to have a wish grant from the eternal dragon.
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>>123835523
So a chinese dinosaur terminator time traveling berserker with a transforming big stick?
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Can someone get something worse than this?
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>>123835623
>7
We're at 8 now.
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>>123835398
But her NP is quite horrible even at lvl 5. I'd like Waver or Tamamo no Mae to be in my Party.
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>>123835560
It was notable enough that I had to respond to such degenerate crap, pal.
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>>123835704
holy fuck
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>>123835505
Don't underestimate a little girl libido.
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>>123835406
>reading Lu Bus profile
>Chen Gong was a smith who made him a weapon and trained him in techniques based on the deity Guan Yu
Thats not how it went in Dynasty Warriors.
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>>123835704
Nice wakame
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Finally tipped over 100k. Feels good, senpai.
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>>123830921
Suddenly I am reminded of oily abs.
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>>123834853
It doubt very much his flying sandles would give him the agility to maneuver an ungoldy amount of laser beam spam that Mesektet can produce, or even match the ship's speed for that matter. He also has bounded fields all around him. Getting close to him alone is impossible without magical abilities to equal his own. And that's just Ozzy. He could just be a dick and send the sphinx out, sit back, and watch it eat perseus for lunch. I liked that one anon's analogy of him being a D&D final boss. Need a party of guys to beat him.

Also fun fact, Ozzy's master's mask is later found and worn by Perseus.
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>>123829572
She's the only reason I'm playing.
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>>123835704
I refuse to believe that isn't edited.
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>>123835961
Step it up, kouhai
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>>123835961
Only 900k to go, anon!
i'm only at 450k. kill me.
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>>123835138
>>123835138
>>123835219
>>123834978
Asterios wrecked the crooked clown!
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>>123830981
>Proto Gil
He's much weaker than normal Gil.
>Warp Spasm Cu
Just flash boobies at him & he calms down.
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Ever since I got Saber and Marie at the same time, it seems like RNGesus hates me.

>>123836114
>ProtoGil
>"much weaker than normal Gil"
Proof of this?
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>>123835961
Nice. I'm at 750k.
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>>123836064
I'm currently at 300k. 27 Apples left. Atm I'm just doing 20AP for the Skull, and then I'll farm 30 or 40 for spiders. I think I should be okay for the gears in the end.
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>>123835704
Shinji loves you, Anon.
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Which two servants would you handcuff together?
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>>123836313
EMIYA and Cu is the only answer
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>>123836313
Redman and Blueman
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>>123836313
Siegfried and Martha.
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>>123836151
Proto Gil lost to Excalibur, artard.
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>>123836313
Me and you
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so guys, what's the best plan, wait for an easily manageable daily (a lancer for example for the okitafags) and grind at it like crazy or risk it on the last daily?

inb4 lancer will be the last daily
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>>123836151
I'm guessing it's because he doesn't have Ea and his GoB isn't as flexible.
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>>123836313
Unrivaled and Herc
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>>123836313

Caster Gilles and Jannu
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>>123836313
Medusa and Cu chulainn
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>>123836435
>he hasn't read Fate
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>>123836473
Enki operates more or less the same as Ea.
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>>123836313

Persues and Medusa
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>>123836581
Enki got fucking EVAPORATED by Arthur
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>>123836313
I'd handcuff Euryale and Stheno to my dick
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>>123836561
Except I have, artard. Gil snaps his fingers and Saber goes down with a small beam from Ea shooting out of the vault.
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>>123836458
Just use the cheat apk if you want to blow apples and shit now.
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>>123836313
Siegfried and myself
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Despair
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>>123836581
One doesn't need to be charged for 7 days and isn't water.
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>>123831881
Unfortunately, God Hand prevents any tactics like that. Try again.
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>>123836660
Sounds like you watched the Deen anime instead.

>artard
?
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>>123834458
>Pray tell, what would turning Ozzy's temple inside out do?
If it's a proper Reality Marble, wouldn't it turn the world egg back rightside out and go back to normal reality?
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>>123829572

This guy! I would have already stopped playing this if Delight Works didn't give him out for free.
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>>123836686
You can do it, I believe in you.
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>>123836640
Arthur's Excalibur is EX, though.
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Feet soon, also bought the 4th skull for nobu
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>>123836640
Proto-Gil still survived it.
Gil didn't against Saber
???
How does that prove anything, dude?
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>>123836313
Kojiro and Medea. It would only be a matter of time before one them breaks and sloppy hatesex happens.
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>>123835998

>It doubt very much his flying sandles would give him the agility to maneuver an ungoldy amount of laser beam spam that Mesektet can produce, or even match the ship's speed for that matter. He also has bounded fields all around him. Getting close to him alone is impossible without magical abilities to equal his own

That's what Pegasus is for.

>And that's just Ozzy. He could just be a dick and send the sphinx out, sit back, and watch it eat perseus for lunch


It can't reach him if he's on Pegasus and Saber BTFO'd it so it's not that strong anyways.
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>>123835213
It ruined the anime for me. Next season is going to be shit.
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>>123836151
Imagine Gate of Babylon with less weapons, no Ea, and Gil being in love with the protagonist. If I remember right, Proto Gil ends up dying like Fate route EMIYA does.
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>>123837007
>>123837130
The humiliation of having you most powerful attack being fucking turned to vapor in a single flash
>>123837130
Are you not reading? he's comparing Ea to Enki, Enki can be fucking evaporated, Ea cant be stopped once it's fired
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>>123837282
Ea would be stopped if it clashed with another EX rank Noble Phantasm.

Why wouldn't it?
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>>123836313
Gilles and Jeanne.
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>>123836686
H-how did you get those Infinity Gears, senpai? Will you share them with me?

>>123837282
Yeah but that doesn't change the fact Proto-Archer survived said Excalibur from Proto-Saber, Gil died like a bitch against Saber comparatively.

>>123837267
Proto-Gil's GoB has the same NPs stored in it as F/Z's Gil does. Who says it has less weapons? Or less functionality? All it tells me is Proto-Saber >>>> Saber.
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>>123836779

Lancelot takes out the AA gun from his grand order NP and mows him down until he dies.
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>>123837342
It's honestly one of the if not flat out the single strongest weapon a servant has shown. I'm not sure how Enkidu and Karna fair.
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>>123828716
Is there a way of making the game look better in bluestacks?
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>>123837342
So you're saying Kiyohime can match Ea.
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>>123837342
Thats not being evaporated, it's actually a chlash, proto gil got his shit evaporated AND he got damaged
>>123837404
Who cares I'm not saying he died
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>>123837565
>can't give him a rebuttal
>reply with a non-sequiter argument instead
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>>123837442
Still not going through God Hand.
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>>123837342
Balmung and Clarent Blood Arthur clash, Clarent wins despite being equal rank due to positioning
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EX-rank was a mistake
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>>123837510
yeah, but Proto-Excalibur is also supposedly some shit.

But in the end, we -really- can't compare Proto Excalibur and Ea because we have no real reference point, aside from it cutting Enki in half.

>>123837442
Because that'll work against God Hand.

>>123837565
No, because Kiyohime's NP isn't ranked EX because of incomparable power. It's ranked EX because loldragon.
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>>123837404
I'm talking about the weapons shown.
> Proto Arthur and Arturia
Defensively, Arturia is better. Offensively, Proto Excalibur is EX ranked.
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>>123836949
Can't say for certain, but that's a good guess. Regardless, Ozzy won't even need to bring out the temple in the first place. He only brought it out as a means to sustain himself due to his master's death. And he's more than capable of dealing with someone like Perseus. I was mainly getting at the fact that he said he's a perfect counter to Ozzy. Yet the RM wouldn't even come into the game.

I still like how both isami's summoned riders. Father like son I suppose.

>>123837213
It's a sphinx, not an eagle. Plenty strong, it will just have a hard time swatting flies out of the air. As for the mount, I'd love to see it take a head on collision to Mesektet. Extreme car crashes!

I wonder when those two will come out anyway. I'm hoping for some prototype event or something.

>>123837756
Yeah proto arthur hits like a nuclear truck.
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>>123837628
But being the same rank doesn't mean they have equal power, Enkidu is A++ and it still can match Ea because he he got his power from the planet while it easily blows through Excalibur.
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>>123837681
Zero was a mistake
Anime adaptions were a mistake
Autism was a mistake
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>>123831816
I want Archer Heracles. Why can't Nasu give us cool shit like Archer Heracles?

I know he's broken as fuck but so is motherfucking Gilgamesh and nobody has a problem a with that.
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>>123836050
>being a whale
naw
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>>123837342
EX is like S class

At rank S they just stop counting anymore, its all the way off the scales. The level of difference between two EX can be incalculable, but they're both off the charts to begin with.

They're not "Well its EX and this is EX, so that means they have the exact same value". What happens when two EX rank NPs is beyond anyone's understanding, no one knows how it might turn out. It could even be over in a flash, like Ea vs Army of the King.

There are entire differences in power between EX NPs, but no one can gauge them anymore, they've stopped trying to gauge it. They just went "Fuck, its too high to count".
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>>123837883
You compare Eniki and Ea, you can come Proto-Saber and Saber's Excaliburs because they operate the same even if at different levels. You can't bring up a completely unrelated power like Kyohime's and expect that to fly.

>>123837756
So...Proto-Saber is still superior.
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>that hp value
Delightworks confirmed natsoc?
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Finally out of apples, so close.
How many quartz do I need to buy to finish today?, is 5 enough or do I need to get the 16?
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>>123837851
Well, he may be mediocre power wise, but pereus is qt3.14. At least when drawn by narahara.
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>>123837994
What tends to happen though, is a clear winner and loser will be decided pretty damn quickly when they class.

At EX rank it almost becomes straight rock paper scissors.

Avalon beats Ea, Ea beats Army of King, etc.

Its a game or R/P/S, where you don't know which one you are going into it.
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>>123838009
>still superior
When EX-Calibur can defeat Avalon.
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>>123837994
In Fate material it says that Enuma Elish is stronger but not so much stronger than Arturia's Excalibur.

Arthur's EXcalibur>>Arturia's Excalibur.

I don't see why it couldn't be on par with EA, well of course I do and that's because Nasu sucks Gil's cock but whatever.
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>>123838081

>mediocre powerwise
>took down the legendary, infamous, horrifying monster that turned countless men into stone
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>>123837994
That's exactly what I meant. We have no proof that ProtoExcalibur wouldn't be able to overpower it, they're somewhere on the EX tier.

We can't really compare the power of ProtoExcalibur and Ea, because all we know is that Proto Excalibur is significantly more powerful than Excalibur and it can cut Enki
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>>123829572
I started playing only because of my waifu initially.
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>>123838038
>Rushing this much in an event that lasts 10 more days, with enormous daily point injections

Why?
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>>123838038
Just wait for tomorrow and do the daily and use your last quartz.
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>>123838129
>Parameters overall are better
>NP is better
>Fighting ability is better
Outside of one unknown factor and one superior stat (defense), he is completely above Saber/Arturia. So yes, I can say he's better because he's superior in almost every respect to her.

Its like claiming a Raptor/F-22A is inferior to a Super Tomcat/F-14D because the latter has the Phoenix system on it and the former can't do the same.
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>>123838164
>not much stronger than Saber's Excalibur
After the Fate route, I'd question that. I'm not even sure if having Rin be Saber's master will close the gap.
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>>123838183
The same one who turned out to be an adorable snek with a tragic past?
And who he punked with direct counter NPs so effective anyone could have done it?
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>>123838229
Initially
More waifus?
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>>123837994
NP rank != power
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What would trigger Kiyohime's NP aside from her master betraying her?
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>>123838129
Name one time when Saber was summoned already equipped with Avalon. Avalon might be a catalyst, but she's never come with it.

That's not how it works, no more than Proto Saber comes equipped with it.

You get one NP, or maybe two, unless you're summoned in your homeland. Saber of course gets Excalibur as her NP, no chance. You don't come summoned with all your shit you had in life. She lost it in life, so its just gone basically.
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>>123830779
Achilles
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>>123838164
Ea isn't even full strength Ea since that's AoG Ea and there's the stuff with Excalibur against planet threat.
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>>123838343

Footless Achilles that is.
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>>123838183
Ayy calm down, don't get triggered. He's a great medusa killer, but that's all, he just average after that. Not bad, but nothing to make him a powerhouse.
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>>123836435
Are you fucking retarded? Proto Excalibur is immeasurably more bullshit than the one Arturia has. It literally counters an attack meant to flood the world and slaughter humanity.
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>>123831816
Vlad and Lancelot both destroy Berserker Herc.
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>>123838314
No, NP rank and power are very tightly interlinked. The only exception is EX, which doesn't mean strength, it simply means it cannot be compared.
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>>123837282
>Ea cant be stopped once it's fired
k
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>>123830779
Saber: Saber Herc
Archer: Archer Herc
Lancer: Lancer Herc
Rider: Rider Herc
Assasin: Assasin Herc
Berserker: Berserker Herc with god hand
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>>123838303

>so effective that anyone could have done it
>the requirement for being a servant is being the "one and only"

No one else could have slayed the the terrifiying, brutal, monsterous Medusa that was on that island.
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>>123838423
Artoria does the same thing at the end of HA though.
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Mashu, my daughteru, is the strongest Servant!
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>>123838337
There's no reason for her not to have it after she regained it during her life, aka Fate route
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>>123838589
>requirement for being a Servant is the one and only
>who is Benkei
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Nobu wants to make you work for the right to have her consider you her one true retainer.
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>>123838572
>resorting to the power of twu wuv and plot armor
Great argument, retard.
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>>123838259
They're around equal stat-wise. Avalon is a defense unlike any other in Fate. That last one is debatable. That Instinct stat is quite something.
>>123838337
Name one Grail War aside from FGO where Arturia is summoned as a regular servant and not this half-servant stuff.
>You come summoned with all your shit in life
Karna argues otherwise.
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>>123838465
Still haven't explained how Lancelot is going to take all of Hercules' lives without every getting hit once.

>>123838730
I'd like to know how Avalon is plot armour when it has been built up to and sufficiently hyped up?
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>>123838702
gaaaaaaaaaaaay
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>>123837681
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>>123838840
Why would Saber as standard have Avalon? You make this argument for her you can make it for him as well.
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>>123838572
Figured you'd resort to Avalon, but the point remains, Ea didnt get fucking turned to vapor nor got cleaved nor Gilgamesh got hurt
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>>123838710
Just like there's no reason for her not to have her spear that controls the fate of mankind, and a reality marble that summons all of her knights, and a magic eight ball that summons Merlin at will.

You don't come summoned with all of your shit in life, unless you're summoned in your homeland.

You're stuck with maybe two tops usually. The only real exception is Apocrypha, where almost all the servants there were boosted due to terrain. We know that if Arthur is going to have any one NP, its going to be Excalibur no matter what, and Excalibur has to come with Invisible wind as her second.

Even Gilgamesh technically only has one NP, even though that NP is a key, that opens up his vault that has countless other NPs inside.
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>>123832681
>Nothing in their repertoire can penetrate God Hand 12 times.
A STR with KoH. He can find more than 12 ways to kill Herc. He is one of the few that can actually kill Herc 12 times, although only the Berserker one because that one is shit with no technique. Lancelot probably wouldn't have much of a chance against Saber or Archer Herc, unless his Saber version has some OP Excaliblast.
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I know someone who came with two noble phantasms
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>>123838840
>Name one Grail War aside from FGO where Arturia is summoned as a regular servant and not this half-servant stuff.

Still F/GO, and guess what on that one.

She doesn't have it there either.
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>>123839046
It should, his sword is the same as Excalibur in every way.
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>>123838038
Hey its a post from the future when we only have 6 hours left.
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>>123839046
>A str

Lancefags still repeat this, this is not a thing retard.
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>>123838950
Why wouldn't she assuming that she was a normal servant? Arturia is a special case.
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>second Gudao CE drop
>300 saved Hiragumo
Feels good.
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>>123834434
He has A STR, no need for getting A rank NPs.
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>>123839110
>Berserker Hercules doesn't get summoned with godhand
this is you
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>>123838465
Haha, no. Neither of them have the required rank to pierce God Hand.
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>>123839141
Because you only get one NP. And if Saber is summoned in her home country, why isn't the same done for Proto-Saber?

In fact when has she EVER had Avalon starting out?
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>>123839181
He did, you just can't apply it in gameplay situations.

Okeanus proves he has it
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>>123838992
>all servant
>Karna
>Romania
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>>123839046
Can't he use Gran or something?

Caliburn burned through 7 or 5 lives
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>>123838589
>No one else could have slayed the the terrifiying, brutal, monsterous Medusa that was on that island.

Except ANYONE could. Gods could have gone to some other warrior, say "hey here's all these anti-snake weapons. Just kill her and be done, it will be easy." Then he goes and kills her, because he has the very counter to her. What makes pereus a hero are his gifts and tools, not himself. That's what makes him so underwelming, especially under greek mythology. His great-grandson Herk looks at his exploits and laughs at how set-up they were.
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>>123839160
I hope you burn in hell
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>>123839046
Can he even survive that long? Lancelot has just one life and it's fully possible for Heracles to kill him before he even takes a single life off him, let alone doing it twelve times.
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>>123839256
You seem to have missed a word right before "all"
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>>123839247
>you only only get one NP

here's your (You)
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>>123838343
Reminder.
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>>123839334
Lancelot wouldn't get touched by Herc if he doesn't want to be.
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>>123839175
A strenght doesn't mean that every atack he makes against Herk is a killing blow, I don't understand how you go from "needing A rank to be able to pierce godhand" to "A rank instantly kill herk one time"
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>>123839247
>only get one NP
Where the heck did you get this from? Invisible Air counts as separate from Excalibur, Cu's Gae Bolg throw counts separately too, not to mention the many with multiple NPs
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>>123839124
No.

Arondight is anti-unit. It doesn't have a laser beam attack
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>>123839297
>Herc making his great-grand daddy look like a bitch.

based
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>>123839046
I'll be hyped if they give Saber Lancelot an excaliblast and just like this anon >>123839124
said It's stated to be Excalibur's counterpart and equal.
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>>123839160
Thank god I finished my last bite of food before hovering over that
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>>123839254
>>123839181
Some Servant abilities cannot manifest unless the master is exceptional. Ilya was a living mana battery.
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>>123839160
nope nope nope nope
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>>123839285
Lancelot doesn't have Gram, and we don't know yet if Arondight has some kind of swordblast
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>>123839254
>He does and just not gameplay
There are so many problems with this that I don't know where to begin.
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>>123839440
Arondight is anti unit.
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>>123839375
Retard

>>123839398
Pfft
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>>123839124
Arondight is anti unit tho
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So does Avalon just not count to Gilfags or something?
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>>123839124
>same as Excalibur in every way.
>boost stat
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>>123839670
Who are you quoting?
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>>123839046
>A STR

This doesn't work. Your NP needs to be A, not your fucking strenght.

Lancelot can kill him once with Arondight and that's fucking it.
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>>123839285
Why the fuck would Lancelot have Gram?
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>>123839558
>retard.

So uh, have you actually read F/SN, or did the line in Fate/Zero where heroes have one noble phantasm cloud your memory?

Because hey, Medusa already has three. Even our dearly beloved UNRIVALED has three.
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>>123838848
>Still haven't explained how Lancelot is going to take all of Hercules' lives without every getting hit once.
EAM vs Herc smash. Not that much of a fight, Herc can't even strategize, there is no way he is winning this. The opponent is him but with a thousand times more skill. If Taiga had 12 lives, she would lose all 12 times to Arturia who isn't even using her Servant stats, because of the skill gap.

By the way if you think Lancelot is going down in one hit, that pretty much means Herc is also going down in one hit, making things much easier.

>>123839218
Both have A STR, Lancelot just switches methods with KoH. Vlad doesn't directly kill Herc, but uses the bite instead, after that Herc is forever Vlad bitch, which in a way means Vlad won.
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>>123839440
>counterpart and equal
I thought that was a mistranslation. Wasn't it as hard as?
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>>123839440
Being a counterpart and equal in some aspects doesn't equate to it having the same abilities. It would make sense for it to have though...But I hope it doesn't, the unrivaled shitposting is bad enough as it is
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>>123839297

Actually that's not the case at all, Perseus isn't some literally who, he's the motherfucking son of Zeus. If the gods had given the weapons to some random guy he would have gotten BTFO'd.
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>>123839175
Battle Continuation:A, and Mind's Eye:B means Lancelot can't do shit. Once Lancelot tries to go for the kill somehow, he gets one shot by Heracles.
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>>123839721
I'm not talking about passive abilities as NPs, I'm talking about weapons and equipment.
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>>123839046
>Anyone believing this ever

Anon you need an A-rank ATTACK to break through God Hand, having A-rank strength is not the same thing. If that were the case then Saber should have fucking slaughtered Herc.
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>>123839614
No because powerlevelfags like to pretend their discussions hold any weight at all when everything they say can be blown over by plot armor and situational stuff
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>>123839530
It shouldn't have one, Anti-Unit NPs don't have blasts.

>>123839734
Except Shirou goes straight out and says that technique is shit-tier to heracles. What he has is absolute power and technique is something humans use to get closer to real power.

If you want to quote Shirou quote him right.
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>>123839778
I knew I should have written demi-god instead. But even back then demi-gods weren't that rare since Zeus couldn't keep his dick in his pants.
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>>123839778

And that's not even mentioning the fact that he later went on to be the King of Mycenae which makes him a king.
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>>123839734
It is not guaranteed that Lancelot will always find something to use as a weapon
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>>123839734
Herc has Battle Continuation and Bravery A+, he's not going down in one hit.

Lancelot has neither of these things.

>>123839808
>breaker gorgon
>bellerophon
>Blood Fort Andromeda.

this is not counting her passive mystic eyes.
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>>123839808
Let me dismiss your argument real quick :Achilles, Siegfried, Karna
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>>123839409
A STR means every attack can bypass God Hand. A bunch of well placed hits can kill Herc as Shirou showed during HF.
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>>123839808
Perseus alone has five equipment NPs.
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>>123839557
Just like Excalibur it is also anti unit.
>>123839594
>■ Excalibur: Sword of Promised Victory
Rank: A++
Type: Anti-Unit Noble Phantasm
>>123839743
>'Arondight • The Indestructible Light of the Lake’—the counterpart to King Arthur’s ‘Sword of Promised Victory’
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>>123839734
Why do people forget God Hand gaining immunity to whatever killed Herk previously?
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>>123839734
>>123839046
>A STR

THIS DOESN'T WORK. Why are Jetfags so fucking stupid?
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>>123839734
>EAM can somehow punch through God Hand because... because EAM!

You're dumb, son. And Herc's strength isn't the sort of thing that can just be beaten out of hand by skill alone, he's vastly more powerful and agile than you even without technique. Skill is the thing you use against Herc to not die INSTANTLY. It doesn't give you the edge, it gives you a means to survive.
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>>123839945
Achilles and Seig are basically summoned in their backyard.
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>>123839945
>>123839962
>all non-canon spin-off shit
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>>123839953
Shirou used his axe sword, which is NP. Then, the technique is also a NP, which took one life with 9 slashes ( nine lives blade works). Blackened Herc has only one life, dipshit.
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>>123840037
Doesnt change anything
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>>123840037
But Karna doesn't.
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>>123839994
that was changed from immunity to resistance
hes get like +??? amount of resistance to whatever killed him before meaning he can be killed by the same thing multiple times.
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>>123839808
Is goalposts shifting your NP? Equipment -wise we have plenty. Karna, Achilles, etc.
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>>123839953
You speak as if landing a bunch of well placed hit's on Herk would be easy, even for Lancelot with all of his skill it would be a pretty hard thing to do.
>>
I have a dream that Zhuge Liang was becoming an actual servant, not just a demiservant.
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>>123840046
You realize all of karnas shit is 1000% nasu right?
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>>123839993
>Excalibur
>Anti unit

Lancelot fags are indeed retarded.

Excalibur is anti-fortress, even in fucking F/Z they say it.
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>>123840015
What is Shirou's strength rank?
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>>123840046

>everything in the nasuverse is canon
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>>123839135
>>123839701
>>123839850
STR is what's taken into account when talking about physical attacks. Read Apocrypha. Also read the fucking VN, Shirou already cut Herc entire arm with C Caliburn and A STR. No, Caliburn wasn't A+, at that moment it was still in Shirou's hands, so not the King. A STR is also further proven by how in that same fight it's stated that the sword is moving on it's own and EASILY blocking all of Herc attacks.
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>>123833595
>>123833867
>that next level filename call out
>illegal to own niggas like this

Oh sweet christ, my sides will never be the same
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>>123839993
Again, I thought it was a mistranslation. Someone previously talked about the equal part a few months ago.
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>>123839953
Forget A rank strength being irrelevant for a moment, that was a weakened Herc Shirou fought that had most of its lives taken. It's questionable if his God Hand is even still active considering Shirou doesn't have A strength. You could argue his NINE Lives is A rank, which still means Lancelot is out of luck.
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>>123840073
It does, since it was said since the start of this conversation, you don't get all your shit from life, unless you were summoned in your home turf.

If you're summoned in your home turf, you do get a buff and more items generally. Its directly stated that's the reason for Achilles being as strong as he was.

>>123840087
Karna is super special, at a level hardly seen before. Guy is stronger than the strongest Greek servants even summoned outside of his area entirely, in a situation where the Greek heroes are summoned at their best.

He's odd

You can't really compare him to anyone aside from Arjuna.
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>>123840186
*non-canon
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>>123840158
What does Shirou have to do with anything

>inb4 Caliburn
Caliburn goes right up to A+ and a fucking miracle happenes

>inb4 NLBW
Heracles didn't even have god hand anymore.
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>>123839993
You're literally just lying. Excalibur is Anti-Fortress. Arondight is its counterpart in that its origin is the same, from the Lake, granted to their wielders by the Lady there. That does not mean they have the same abilities. You'd know that if you even took a cursory read through their profiles in the Materials. Excalibur has the blast bullshit and vaguely described abilities of inspiration, while Arondight grants a raw power boost Excalibur doesn't, and also deals more damage to dragons.
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>one np
>RULES
So do people forget that the entire point of the Grail War is that the whole thing is fucked and the rules just don't matter?

A Servant is supposed to be dead, in comes Artoria.

A Servant has only one NP. Most Servants shit on that.

A Servant cannot summon another Servant, how's Kojirou doing?

Every rule established in a Grail War inevitably gets broken. The system is fucked beyond any hope of repair and the rules are abitrary and poorly enforced.
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>>123840247
Are you intentionally ignoring Karna?
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>>123840137

He'd be a 3* without waver's body.
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>>123840207
Are you implying Shirou has A rank strength, because that's monumentally retarded.
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>>123840313
I just addressed Karna

Indian servants break the rules, they're broken.
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>>123840105
It's not plus ???%, its plus 100%.
That's immunity.
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>>123840105
While multiple lives can be taken at once, God Hand still makes the next attacks ineffective. Herk won't easily be killed by the same weapon unless one attack takes all his lives.
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>>123839808
Iskander - Chariot/Bulls and Hetairoi
Gilgamesh - Too many to list
Arturia - Excalibur, Invisible Air, Avalon in FSN
Medusa - Bloodfort, Bellerophon, Mystic Eyes
Karna - Hella
Cu - Gae Bolg thrust and Gae Bolg thrown
Diarmuid - Buidhe and Dearg
Lancelot - FSG, Arondight, KoH
Nursery Rhyme - Nursery Rhyme, Queen's Glass Game

I could go on but you're just so hilariously wrong that it's not worth it
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>>123839869
Lancelot has the same stats and the difference is clear as fuck.

>>123839924
The enviroment is his weapon, are you really telling me you can't find 12 possible weapons in your room right now?

>>123839925
Bravery is unactive when he is a Berserker, read the materials. Battle Continuation also means he is dead but a walking corpse.

>>123839994
Because it becomes immune to attacks. Just swapping your methods work.

>>123840015
It does. All physical attacks are gauged by STR, so pretty much all of Lancelot attacks are A ranked.
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>>123840207
I'm kinda curious what /fgog/ thinks of this. I got into an argument a few days ago where someone I knew told me Shirou can't copy innate powers or some shit like that. It's been a while since I read the VN but isn't that practically all he does in fights?
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>>123840207
Humans don't have A STR. Do you have PROOF that Shirou has A STR? No you fucking don't.

However we do have proof of Caliburn going right up to A+, making perfect sense as it why it can injure heracles.

Are you fucking stupid? You're reaching too much here. Caliburn was A+ just by being near Saber, when she touched it a miracle happened and a laser beam came out.
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>>123840313
Is he intentionally ignoring fucking Medusa, especially considering he can't even pop the 'non-canon' excuse on her.
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>>123840371
I bet you write fanfiction and take it as canon in the Nasuverse
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>>123840371
I can't wait to see how Rama and sita are implemented
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>>123839872

Not only is he a demi-god, but he's also a King. He is "the one and only."
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>>123840409
>Chariot/Bulls
>weapon
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Month and month after I wonder why do you people feel the need to use reason and compare NASU's writing of all the things in this world? You all realize how stupid and pointless it is, right? I could understand if it was something actually consistent written by someone other than the guy who "KUURU" and slaps whatever the fuck he wants onto something. But what keeps you going with a hack's work is beyond me
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>>123840350
>>123840429
The sword does, read the novel. The scene is after Shirou projects Caliburn for the second time.
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>>123840275
>WHO FUCKING CARES ABOUT THE LORE NONE OF IT MATTERS
>BECAUSE I SAY SO
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>>123840423
>The enviroment is his weapon, are you really telling me you can't find 12 possible weapons in your room right now?

Are you retarded? The shit he grabs aren't A rank, and won't fucking work. And A rank strength doesn't mean shit since it only counts NP.
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>>123840207
>Shirou
>A rank STR

Lancelotfags don't have any argument and come up with the most retarded shit ever. You're just pathetic
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>>123840546
>equipment
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>>123840619
>weapons
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>>123840423
Whoops, I actually thought it said the mental interference part doesn't work but the damage buff does.

But no, you're still wrong. Battle Continuation means that it'll be very hard to take off a life without something like Excalibur.

>>123840371
Who about Medusa, dumbfuck?
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>>123840423
>It does. All physical attacks are gauged by STR, so pretty much all of Lancelot attacks are A ranked.
Again, that's WRONG, because if it were true Saber would have been unable to harm him at all, yet she manages to harm him in one instances.
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>>123840423
No I can't I don't consider something a weapon just because I can swing it or smash things whit it, and no the enviroment isn't his weapon, only things he recognise as weapons are what he can use, and what he does recognise as a weapon is mostly determined by whatever the fuck the author of the history needs
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>>123840423
>just swapping methods
That works?
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>>123840026
Herc and Lancelot STR parameter is the same under normal conditions unless Herc + is activated for a moment. Same for the other stats, they are pretty much both the same, but Lancelot is skilled while Herc is just smashing like a retard. Herc could end disarmed in less than a minute.
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>>123840672

>Who about
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>>123840558
Except it doesn't mention a single thing about giving Shirou A rank STR. It only says that the sword is moving by itself. THEN WE ARE TOLD THAT CALIBURN GOES RIGHT UP TO A+.

Honestly get serious here, do you seriously believe Shirou has A rank strenght? Or the canon explanation of Caliburn ranking up?

Because if you believe Shirou has A rank STR you're beyond retarded.
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>>123840659
>I'm not talking about passive abilities as NPs, I'm talking about weapons and equipment.

I swear most of you are retarded yet think you're all high and intelligent
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>>123840546
>Gordius Wheel is a war chariot
>Via Expugniato
Fucking jetfags
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>>123840558
>swords
>having strength stats
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>>123840672
You're forgetting Mind's Eye. Heracles can't be cornered.

B: (Even though Heracles’ sanity was lost due to Mad Enhancement, this skill remained effective as it is nearly an instinct. When crossing swords with a seasoned swordsman like Artoria, he would not fall for half-hearted feints. It is such a troublesome ability for Heracles' opponents. Although monstrous in size, Heracles has a high rank in Agility. As a result, it is very difficult to corner him.)
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>>123840528
I'll make him the only and only of my dick. Gimme dat fuccboi.
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>>123840064
>Shirou used his axe sword, which is NP.
The Axe sword is not a NP you fucking retard.

>Blackened Herc has only one life, dipshit
Citation, God Hand is the body as stated in materials so don't even try to argue the skin shit.
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>>123840721
That's cute
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>>123840739
>Herk
>Disarmed
Had Herk been sane would he be more deadly unarmed if unable use Nine Lives? Bravery and his martial arts are rather strong.
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>>123840840

Medusa domming trap persues doujin when?
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>>123840409
>Iskander - Chariot/Bulls and Hetairoi
That's two
>Gilgamesh - Too many to list
Only really has one, which is his key, which he can use to cheat the rules by getting in contact with his other shit.
>Arturia - Excalibur, Invisible Air, Avalon in FSN
She only has two NPs in F/SN if you paid attention. Avalon is not something she came summoned with, its something that was given to her through plot. It would be like if Heracles raided a museum and took back one of his NPs on display, and you went "I remember when Heracles was summoned with his Nemian Lion". He wasn't summoned with it, he just found it in the real world in the current age, no that doesn't count. That is not the same thing as being summoned with it at all. If Cu got Fragnaratch from Bazett, that doesn't mean he came with it.
>Medusa - Bloodfort, Bellerophon, Mystic Eyes
>Karna - Hella
>Cu - Gae Bolg thrust and Gae Bolg thrown
That's not two NPs, its the same one used differently
>Diarmuid - Buidhe and Dearg
That's two
>Lancelot - FSG, Arondight, KoH
>Nursery Rhyme - Nursery Rhyme, Queen's Glass Game
That's two

One to two is the norm, this was stated in both F/SN and Zero. You basically only get two. Getting any more than that outside of your home turn is an absurdity or ultimate rarity.

If you think about this even EMIYA and Gilgamesh are subject to this rule even now, despite how they still cheat the rule. EMIYA's only NP is UBW, and Gilgamesh's NP is his key. They can both cheat this, because their one NP will summon other NPs, yet officially they still only have one.
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>>123840751
>i can't provide an argument therefore I must rag on a typo

>>123840835
I'm not forgetting Mind's Eye, I was merely talking about his sheer durability. That's the other guy.
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>>123840707
>unironically mentions the anime
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>>123840896
First it was one, now it's two gotta love how your argument evolved as you were proven wrong
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>>123840803
Not a jetfag, you piss-ant.
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>>123840739
Anon, the Mad Enhancement IS the + to Herc's strength. And Lancelot's "skill" is fucking worthless because it doesn't provide him a means to pierce God Hand, and his Mad Enhancement C fucks with his cognizance to the point that even if he pierced it and killed Herc once, he likely wouldn't have the reason to realize he needs a new approach to do it a second time, so he'll just wail at Herc forever and ever until Herc either gets lucky and kills him, or Lancelot's Master keels the fuck over.
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>>123840896
>Arturia wouldn't come with Avalon
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>>123840064
>Blackened Herc has only one life
He had most of his lives left, God Hand was active and he was stronger than the regular version of him.
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>>123840835
Gotta love Jetfags wanking off Lancelot's ability to retain his skill even under mad enhancement and claiming Herc can only "smash like a retard" when the exact same applies to Herc.
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>herc fags always ignore rin's gem
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>>123839792
I don't see how any of those 2 will help Herc offense at all. Both are defensive skills. They won't help Herc landing a hit, they will help defending.

>>123840131
It's not but it really isn't impossible either, it shouldn't be that hard considering it's fucking unrivaled and Herc is full dependant on Mind Eye for defense.

>>123840229
>. It's questionable if his God Hand is even still active considering Shirou doesn't have A strength.
It was stated Shirou copied Herc strength. He would have never been able to even lift the Axesword without A STR.
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>>123829552
Wait for Caster daily
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>>123841009
>>123841050

>what is EAM
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>Leave Gilgamesh to me.
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>>123840987
If this were accurate for my runs, it would a burned naked raisin wielding a flaming club instead of some guy in armor.
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>>123840152
It's literally stated right here.
Fate Zero side material listed it as Anti unit. I don't know why, but it does.
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>>123841027
For fuck's sake.

REMINDER THAT YOU NEED AN A-RANK ATTACK TO PIERCE GOD HAND. NOT A NOBLE PHANTASM. AN A-RANK TECHNIQUE. NINE LIVES QUALIFIES AS AN A-RANK TECHNIQUE, JUST LIKE RIN'S GEM-BOMBS. THAT IS WHY SHIROU WAS ABLE TO KILL HIM.
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>>123841027
>God Hand was active

Prove it

It was also directly said it was weaker than the normal version of him. Blackening didn't agree with him like it did Saber. Instead it fucked him the hell up, and he had no skin and was blind.

Godhand was his skin, which was ripped off of him.
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>>123841027
>most of lives
Unsure about that. Saber Alter was there, Herk ripped off his skin, etc.
>stronger than regular self
While blind and skinless?
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>this thread
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>>123841081
I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it's harder than people make it out to be
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>>123828716
Reminder
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>>123841081
>minds eye
>won't help landing a hit.

Are you just stupid? He can, you know, read one of Lancelot's moves and counter accordingly.

Or will EAM now stop Mind's Eye from working as well?
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>>123841123

>cross series powerlevels

Is it time to bring in elder god demonbane into this discussion?
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Reminder that this entire argument is because some jetsfag brought up Lancelot vs Herc so they can complain about their non-existent hercfag boogeyman again
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>>123841245
Fuck off Herkek.
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>>123841107
EAM is proof that everybody else in his era was trash.
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>>123841227
>Fatefag butthurt Souls shits on his Nasu wank fantasy
>implying shitting on power level derails isn't a good thing
Stupid drone, who are you quoting?
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Philosophers when
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>>123840585
He has A STR, they work. STR is what is counted for physical attacks. Read Apocrypha and the rest of the novels and materials before arguing.

>>123840672
Battle Continuation means they are still fucking dead but kind of alive. Cu was pretty much dead when he was forced to suicide, but could still fight for a while.

>>123840707
When? She never harmed him even once in the novel.

>>123840715
>and what he does recognise as a weapon is mostly determined by whatever the fuck the author of the history needs
Like chopsticks, right?

>>123840730
Yeah? God Hand becomes immune to the attack that kills you.
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>>123841050
"Smash like a retard" actually WAS how it originally worked back for Herc when Berserkers were supposed to be raging retards rather than just "angry nigga" or "got a little pissy once in life." It got retconned, naturally.

It's why EAM originally was hot shit when Lancelot's sheet came out, it let Lancelot rebuff the "raging retard" flaw of Berserker.

Not that anon btw, or a Jet/Hercfag. Just chiming in.
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>>123841245
>tfw the jetfags went silent for a couple days because in their minds that "proves" that they're not the most cancerous group in the general, and after that period elapsed they took it as leave to shitpost relentlessly all over again.

They can't even blame it on their antijetfag tall tale this time.
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>>123841302
>everyone else was trash
Fighting words there.
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Lancelot literally can't win against Heracles no matter what. Jetfags are too stupid to admit it.
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>>123841156
Nine Lives doesn't have a rank you idiot.
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STOPPU STOPPU PUREESU
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>>123841123
Berserker Artorias when?
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>>123841227
That shit's overrated as fuck son.

>>123841245
Nothing new, then.
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>>123841334
When?
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>>123841410

Lancelot can attack using 12 different sniper rifles which bypasses the "immune to attack that killed you" rule.
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>>123841360
They're still alive while Battle Continuation is active, Anon, and Lancelot will have to beat it 12 times without getting whacked once due to Eye of the Mind.
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>>123841431
When Genghis Khan is summoned.
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>>123841128
Because it's both.

Just like Cu's Gae Bolg is Anti-Unit and Anti-Army.

Excalibur is Anti army with it's blast.
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>>123841431
>>123841326
>>123841123
Fate/Souls when?
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>>123841326
Poor Artorias. In life he might have been a serious threat to Gil, more than Lancelot had ever been. But the version we see is so fucked by corruption he wouldn't even last a minute.
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>>123841423
>Cu's throw doesnt have a rank
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>Lancer EXP day
>want to spend some apples leveling Cu so I can get ready for the 40AP Archer event
>need 2 octuplet stones to get his 3rd ascension
>only at 305k HP
The indecisiveness is annoying
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>>123841423
It's confirmed A+
>>123841538
B+
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>>123841491
Is that before or after getting pummeled to death?
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>>123841532
Standing up to Manus > anything Gilgamesh did against the Grail or Angry Manjew.
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>>123841360
Exactly, he used the chopsticks on a humorous segment of a fanservice game because who wrote that needed something to make fun of, just like he uses a jet in zero because Uro wanted le epic dogfight
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>>123841491
Where's he getting the twelve sniper rifles? And they'll only have D Rank anyway so they won't pierce God Hand. And as usual, jetfags are retarded. The weapon used to kill you isn't important, the method of killing is. You'd have to snipe him in twelve different fatal areas. Again, assuming you can even get past God Hand all twelve times.
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>Leave ISIS to me
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>>123841491
Its not immune to the attack, its immune to the method.
So slashing, fire, lightning, piercing and so on.
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>>123841530
After Miyazaki has finished DS3

I wish
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>>123841628
>What is sarcasm
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>>123841491
>the sniper rifles don't scale off his attack and the bullets harmlessly bounce off his skin.
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>>123840873
Bravery isn't active as Berserker and he has no technique as a Berserker either.

>>123841009
>Anon, the Mad Enhancement IS the + to Herc's strength.
Headcanon. + are modifiers, not ranks.

>and his Mad Enhancement C fucks with his cognizance to the point that even if he pierced it and killed Herc once, he likely wouldn't have the reason to realize he needs a new approach to do it a second time
Read Zero, Lancelot can strategize and figure out how NPs work even after seeing them only once.

>>123841050
Are you going against the novel?
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Couldn't Lancelot just hit Herc with a corrupted Spirit Bomb?
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>>123841630

It's when Hercules doesns't find him cause he lacks the tracking skills to find a target that's shooting from miles away.

>>123841661

Same places he gets the gun in his grand order NP.
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Imagine a jetfag actually summoning Berserker Lancelot in a Holy Grail War, and how fucking horribly it would go because their delusions leave them completely unaware of Berserker's actual strengths, and they send him into a completely unwinnable situation because "EAW will save him :^)"
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>>123841227
>>cross series powerlevels

Are you MOTIVATED /fgog/?
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>>123841661
No, you don't realize, Lancelot's A rank strength will impart itself on the bullets he fired because the strength of his trigger finger enhances the power of the shots he fires due to EAM allowing him to kill Berserker multiple times with each shot. Trust me on this.
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>>123841373
You underestimating their skill to reject reality and supplement it with one of their own making.
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>>123841508
We agree then? Good. Which begs the question if Pure Arondight will have a blast or not. We will see once Saber Lancelot is out.
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>>123840429
>However we do have proof of Caliburn going right up to A+
There is no proof of that. Caliburn goes A+ in the hands of the king. Does Shirou looks like a King to you? The miracle was later and that's when it went up to A+, when it was back were it belongs.

>>123840780
>THEN WE ARE TOLD THAT CALIBURN GOES RIGHT UP TO A+.
In the hands of the King. Shirou isn't the King, is he?
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>>123841728
Since we're at it with power levels anyways:

The Slayer of Demons > The Hunter > Chosen Undead > Bearer of the Curse

Yurt a qt as well
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>>123841860
Trust him on this one, that's how guns work I know because my father Is a guy who makes guns
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>>123841843
How butthurt would Vergil get after Emiya traced his swords?

>>123841812
Doesn't answer how the sniper rifles pierce God Hand. And Lancelot's GO phantasm is just a fanservice reference to the jet in Zero you sperg.
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>>123841730
First day in /fgog/? This place can get pretty goddamn retarded. You just never know. We had one Lancelotfag seriously argue that Lancelot could kill Goku.
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>>123841812
>he lacks the tracking skills to find a target that's shooting from miles away.

Sure he does, that's why he's not able to react and intercept Caladbolg II right? Oh WAIT, he fucking DOES.
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>>123841756
How the fuck is he going to figure out how Nine Lives of all things works instantly? It's more complicated than the common beam. Are you that one jetsfag that had a meltdown?

Also, Hercules still maintains use of Mind's Eye, so even if he's fighting on instinct, he isn't completely without technique... because otherwise he wouldn't be able to, you know, react to predictions given by Mind's Eye.

>>123841841
>that filename
Godlike. Thank you.
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>>123841843
When?
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>>123841936
I'm interested, post your reasoning
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>>123841957
inb4 the jetfags wave their hands and start screaming "NO THAT WAS THE ANTIJETFAG THAT LIVES UNDER OUR BED"
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>>123841158
No reason to prove something that is obvious. God Hand is the body, the body was there, so God hand is active.

>Godhand was his skin, which was ripped off of him.
Herkeks proving they haven't read the materials again.
>This Noble Phantasm does not have an overt external manifestation such as a weapon or armour, but if you hazard to put a shape to it, the body itself can be called the Noble Phantasm.
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>>123841946
>Emiya
>Tracing supersword capable of sealing worlds
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>>123841946

Lancelot's strength carries over to weapons via EAM, which is why he's so effective with the street pole in zero.

>And lancelot's GO phantasm is just a fanservice refrence to the jet in Zero you sperg.

Everything in the nasuverse is canon.
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>>123841957
>implying he can't
Blessing of the fairy ensures Goku can't touch him, and KoH, and EAM will throw Goku's Ki attacks back at him. It'd be Goku vs Broly all over again, only this time Goku loses.
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>>123842052
I thought this was basic stuff. Both Dark Souls I and II's protagonists operate at lower levels and don't deal with eldritch abominations or Lovecraftian styled horrors like the Old Ones or Great Ones that the Slayer of Demons and Hunter do in Demon's Souls and Bloodbourne.
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>>123842081
Lancelot turns weapons he grabs into D-rank Noble Phantasms. That, plus Lancelot's innate skill, is the reason they're so deadly. That does NOTHING to suggest they somehow instantly become A-rank.
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>>123842053
>ANTIJETFAG THAT LIVES UNDER OUR BED
It's 8:14 and I'm too spooked to go to sleep now
Thanks a lot
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>>123842140
Which version of Broly are we talking about there? Galactic emperor?
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Nasu was a mistake
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>>123841968
Not talking about Nine Lives, talking about God Hand. How is he going to figure out Nine Lives if he has never seen it? Are you stupid?

>Hercules still maintains use of Mind's Eye
Eye of the Mind Fake is a defensive skill that alerts Herc from danger. It does nothing more than that.
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>>123842081
>Lancelot THE Lake
>Arondight chained when he's clearly sane
Even jetdrawfags are retarded
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>>123842081
>Lancelot can swing a pole extra hard
>this means he must be able to fire bullets extra hard too
I hope you're trolling.
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Why is Souls lore so much better then Fates?
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>>123842140
>Lancelotfags are the Brolyfags of Fate

IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW
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Even as a Berserker, there are very, very few Servants that can single-handedly take out Herc. God Hand is OP as shit.
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>>123842221
The stronger one.
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>>123842143
I don't know much about Demons Souls, so I wanted to hear about the shit you kill there that's on a higher scale than the shit in bloodborne, but yeah shit on Bloodborne is on whole different level than thing in Dark souls
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>Leave Gilgamesh to me
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>>123842248
That was a typo and clearly meant God Hand, considering we're talking about Berserker Herc.

>>123842081
melee weapons... not... ranged weapons... because these don't use his strength, and...

No, holy fuck. I hope you're one of those trolls who don't believe a word they're spewing, because...

I'm done. You know what. I'm done. You are too fucking delusional.
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>>123841497
Eye of the Mind Fake is a defensive skill, not offensive. Do you even read the skills descriptions before you post?

>>123841491
Jetfag here, this doesn't work. This is most likely the anti-jet retard. Sniping doesn't use Lancelot STR parameter because it's not a physical attack.
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>>123828716
COOL THREAD
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>>123842358
I dunno I think they'd get along pretty swell, what with their shared hobby of rejecting gods.
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>>123842328
It's funny because Heracles is a more fitting Broly.

That scary big guy who theoretically should stomp on the main characters but keeps jobbing over and over due to plot.
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>>123842341
I'm calling bull, no way goku can handle the strongest version of Brolly. That whole arc was bullshit
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>>123842291
But that's how guns woooooork anon
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>>123841326
>>123841227
Acceleartor vs Gilgamesh

who wins?
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>>123842291

>it works for melee weapons
>it arbitrarily doesn't apply to ranged weapons because reasons!
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>>123842081
>Lancelot's strength carries over to weapons via EAM
No.

This goes for everyone in this thread:
When using a NP, the NP stat is used.
When using a physical attack, the STR stat is used. Even when using one's NP to hit someone.
When Arthoria hits with Excalibur, her STR stat is used. When she unleashes it into the Excaliblast, her NP stat is used.
This is how it works for everyone.
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>>123842143
The fact that the Great Ones in Bloodborne can be killed at all means they really ain't shit compared to Lovecraft's horrors.

Demon's Souls I can't really speak for because I know pretty much nothing about it.
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This general should just die already
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I have brain damage
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>>123828716
Can we just talk about how cute liz is? Please?
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>>123842329
Herc reminds me of Tyrant Baal from the Disgaea franchise.
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>>123842471
Accelerator easily.
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>>123842424
>antijet boogeyman
Fucking called it.
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>>123841217
>That's not how Eye of the Mind Fake works you retarded piece of shit.
>A danger avoidance ability based on Intuition/Sixth Sense, gained through many ordeals and adventures. Even though Hercules’ sanity was lost due to Mad Enhancement, this skill remained effective as it is nearly an instinct.
Literally alerts him from danger and nothing more. He can feel the incoming attack is dangerous, that's all it does. That's why Herc can react to Calabolg and stuff like that.
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We were better off without a thread
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>>123842424
>implying he can't modify the sniper rifle into a blowgun to take advantage of his rank A strength lung power
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>>123842424
>This is most likely the anti-jet retard

Every fucking time with you delusional shits
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Okay let's stop this power level shitfest and talk about something more interesting...Like how would Siegfried and Gilgamesh get along?
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>>123842358
>I was joking about killing everyone pal, you can have some of muh treasures as proof of my good will
>haha it was a joke, I-swear
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>>123842291
>he doesn't know that the bullet strength depends on the shooter's strength
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>>123842437>>123842471
for a moment there I thought I was on /a/
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>>123842554
carrot butt?
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>>123842345
That's because Bloodbourne is also basically the sequel to Demon's Souls. The ultimate entity responsible for the Fog and the invasion of demons corrupting the entire kingdom and spreading to the world was literally THE OLD ONE.

It will not stop eating souls, it will infinitely continue the cycle unless put back to sleep. It cannot die, it cannot be killed, it cannot be banished. Even the monumentals for all their power can do nothing and if you refuse to aid them you will be stuck in the Nexus for all eternity.

Demon's Souls and Bloodbourne are simply WAY up on the power level totem pole compared to Dark Souls I and II. Though Artorias is bad ass and Manus isn't too shabby either.

>>123842507
The Old One in Demon's Souls can not die. You can't kill it. You can't beat it. You can't hurt it. You can't banish it. You can only get him to go back to sleep.
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>>123842646
HE HAS NO COUNTER TO EA AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUCK MY ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>123842036
Reminder
>Vergil literally has the Muramasa blade a weapon that can counter abilities like God hand hard.
>Vergil also has summoned Swords that can counter GoB
>Vergil has Yamato a blade that can cut through anything even a full Enuma Elish/Excaliblast into pieces.
>Vergil has Devil Trigger that can boost his powers a hundred fold
>Beowulf flash gauntlets and greaves that can boost his melee 10 fold
>But, the most important thing is that Vergil has the bigger dick
Reminder that if Vergil is summoned as a Saber he would be the most overpowered fuck in Nasuverse.
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>>123842081
That's not how it works you idiot. EAM means being skilled, not transfer of STR rank. But nice try anti-jet.
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>>123842424
Do you? It alerts Herc of encroaching danger and is advanced to the point of telling him where they're coming from and how to react.

Are you saying that he can't counterattack Lancelot using it for... reasons? Like what reasons?

>>123842612
Are you stupid? If it just did that, he still wouldn't be able to react. It doesn't just alert him from danger, it clearly also lets him counterattack, because otherwise, he wouldn't be able to counterattack.

What you're saying is not even remotely hinted at in that description. It allowed him to avoid danger by dodging or countering the shit fired at him, which is literally what he woudl be doing.
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>>123842685
Old One in fact was affecting multiple worlds with its fog and soul-eating, at least six iirc. He also causes mental influences indirectly with his telepathy bringing out the worst of "humanity" via the fog.
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Posting cute girls
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>>123842707
But I am talking about if they would get along with each other or something like that
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Wait, why can't I find any picture of Nasu?
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>>123842578
Anti-esp weapons
checkmate athiest
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>>123842719
Baal can handle him by himself. He's Heracles on God Steroids.
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>>123842646
Apathetic at best
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>>123842746
>>123842424
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Post servants you want.
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>>123842746
Every time a jetfag tries to play off their own fanbase's retardation as persecution by the antijet boogeyman, take a shot.
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>>123842813
NO COUNTER

JUST FUCK MY ASS

I know I just felt like screaming for some reason.
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>>123842685
Doesn't the slayer of demons become the new Old One if you kill it in demon's souls?
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How different does one weapon have to be from another to negate Herc's immunity? You obviously can kill him with two different swords with similar designs in Excalibur and Caliburn's case.

Like, if you killed Herc with Excalibur and then tied it to a pole and renamed it Excalispear would it be able to bypass Herc's Excalibur immunity?
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More cute girls

Drown out the powerlevels by posting cute girls
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>>123842683
A CUTE, CUUUUUTE
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>>123842809
Same
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>>123842680
I mean why not all this powerlevel wanking is like /a/ at this point.

inb4 Lancelot can also defeat Saitama :^)
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>>123842746

>implying A rank strength isn't the representation of being skilled
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>>123842968
The method of killing is the important part, not the weapon itself. For example, Shirou killed Herc multiple times with NLBW by targeting different vulnerable parts of his body. It's also implied Archer did the same thing in their Fate route fight based on the various deadly wounds Herc is described with.
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>>123842906
Genghis Khan
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>>123842798
>>123842685
Dragon God also was powerful as shit.

>>123842946
No. You kill the Maiden in Black in the Bad Ending, and leave the Old One awake.
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>>123842685
You're probably right, but I do just want to throw out that in Bloodborne most humans seem "normal" at their base but in DS they have the whole Dark Soul/Humanity/Abyss shit going for them.
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>>123842906
Dumas' dad
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Did Liz;s candies disappear after her event ended?
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>>123842809
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>>123842780
>Do you? It alerts Herc of encroaching danger and is advanced to the point of telling him where they're coming from and how to react.
Nope, how to react is entirely up to him, Mind Eye doesn't tell him how to react to the attack, it tells him that attack is dangerous, therefore had to be dealt with.

>Are you stupid? If it just did that, he still wouldn't be able to react. It doesn't just alert him from danger, it clearly also lets him counterattack, because otherwise, he wouldn't be able to counterattack.
That's not what the ability says. It alerts him from danger and reacting to that danger is up to him. He reacts because A AGI.
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>>123843068
He'd just be a dindunuthin girl who was raped frequently as a child and so chose to revolt against them
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>>123843048
No A rank obviously is the representation of shooting bullets harder
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Cute
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>>123843086
But it is killable in 1 hit.
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>>123842809
>>123842981
>>123843009

Please fuck off back to /c/, as bad as the powerlevels are it's easily more desirable than waifufaggotry in a thread about a series about heroric figures being summoned into the modern day to fight each other.
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How does KoH work? I assume the weapon is active when used to steal weapon, because it can change from random weapon to NP rank D. Excaliblast = A++, excalibur sword = no rank, right?
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>>123843056
>implied
>forgetting mentions of the multiple NPs Archer had and how Ilya couldn't pinpoint who he was
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>>123843110
Yes
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>>123843192
It's ALWAYS D rank, no exceptions
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>>123842897
>>123842641
>>123842910
>>123842605
Sure because we have never seen you pose as others, anti-jet shitposter. Never at all. >>123493787
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>>123843226
I'm just saying it's implied Archer used similar tactics in the targeting of vital spots.
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>>123842719
Cool. He still can't beat Dante.
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>>123843191
(You)
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How will F/GO write him in London? I cannot wait to see.
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>>123843304

Would demi-fiend as a berserker with dante be unstoppable?
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>>123843192
Lancelot grabs the spirit bomb, corrupts it and throws against you at A rank because that's his strenght
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>>123843280
I hope you realize that lancelotfags in this general are getting to the point where other people might actually s start to hate them, right?
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>>123843192
If it's a NP who's rank is above D, it keeps its rank. If not an NP or below D Rank, it becomes D.
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>>123843191
>discussing waifus in a waifu sim is worse then cancerous, unrelenting and irrelevant powerlevel shitposting
Come on now
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>>123843273
If he steals another NP ie Gil it retains the rank
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Lets end the powerlevel shitposting with some real discussion.
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>>123843280
Oh my god, he's still clinging to that. He still has that link SAVED. He is still bringing it up every time his ass chafes, even though he hasn't, a single time, managed to explain how a single person pretending to be the drawfag proves that everyone who ever called him a retard was the same person. This is a level of autism that shouldn't be possible.
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>>123843343
Well he has an interlude with faust and Sakurai can be pretty crazy
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>>123843192
It retains the rank of the weapon if it's higher than A.

>>123843023
No Servant can beat Saitama. Lancelot could have ORT and Slash Emperor and Saitama would still BTFO. Just look at Garou, it's pretty much a buffed Lancelot, still got BTFO.
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>>123843267
Is it the same now? We have to max ascend Nobu before the event ends or we're screwed?
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>>123843192
KoH keeps the NP rank if Lancelot "steals" a NP.
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I hope you've been feeding your Liz for the level 80 archer 40 AP quest
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>>123843056
>Shirou killed herc multiple times

Shirou killed him once, Heracles didn't have God Hand anymore.
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>>123843273
What I want to know is if it's active (thus using NP rank as attack rank) or not (thus using STR as attack rank). I'm sure you couldn't shoot beam using KoH'd pole.
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>>123843391

There's already a containment board for waifuposting, at least powerlevels are related to the lore of the game.
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>>123843407
Pretty easy choice, this wrold sucks and Siegfried is cute
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>>123843454
Yes
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>>123843375
>are getting to the point

I would say that they crossed that point weeks ago.
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>>123843280
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This guy can solo Nasuverse
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>>123843407
Red. If my waifu were to become real she would become human, and to be human would be to introduce imperfection and flaw into what was meant to be perfect and flawless. To accept her humanity would be to deny what made me love her. This I cannot abide.
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powerlevels and cute girls, together at last
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>>123843426
>this level of autism shouldn't be possible
See CWC
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>>123843375
I don't mind being hated if I'm defending what I believe is right. I do however mind being hated if it's because of some idiot posing as part of the fanbase. Being hated for being right even though the world doesn't agree with me, I'm fine with that, being hated for something I didn't even do, that, I will not allow.

>>123843426
Of course, so when you try to say HURR BOGEYMAN, you can get btfo, just like you did now.
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>>123843191
>as bad as the powerlevels are it's easily more desirable than waifufaggotry
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Is it true that a Popsicle is stronger than Ea?
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>>123843523
I was being nice so he wouldn't have an excuse to immediately accuse me of being that one asshole who might not even be one person.
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>>123843428
You're setting up bombs with Mephisto in his Faust interlude and you happen to meet Faust while doing so.

I don't expect him to be written into a dindu nuffin, but who knows
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What if Nasu and Takeuchi lurked /fgog/?
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Why the fuck are we discussing Lancelot vs Hercules anyways? Can't Golden handle Herc by himself lore wise?
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>>123843407
Red.
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>>123843554
B-but why did you post as picture of luke? Fuck I don't know what this thread is anymore.

I'm scared and want to wake up.
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>>123843617
But you are wrong anooooon
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>>123843617
>I said he's wrong in a really upset tone, that means he got BTFO!

Are you 12?
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>>123828716
Sakamoto vs Lancelot and Gilgamesh.

Who wins?
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>>123843469
She's 70 but I know she can handle it by herself.
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>>123843110
>>123843267

I almost had a heart attack
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>>123843498
Grand Order lore is an unholy mishmash, and the only positive part of the game is cute girls.
Powerlevel shitposting is /a/ shit.
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>>123829572
The one that's not in...yet. So I'll keep playing, until the day she'd added.
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>>123843617
>literally one person did it once
>everyone is doing it all of the time.
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>>123843623
No
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Who /jeanne/ here?
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Why is UBW so weak, really? Nasu takes every opportunity to try to play it down, insisting that it's really not hot shit at all and completely impractical most of the time and little more than a annoyance to powerful Servants.

But really, who can defend against an onslaught of literal infinite swords unless they have some sort of high powered defensive NP like Avalon? Nasu keeps saying other Servants can but he never provided the actual mechanics of the scenario. Assuming Archer can actually get you trapped in his RM of course.
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>>123843476
Citation, this has been btfo many times already. God Hand is the body, not the skin.

>This Noble Phantasm does not have an overt external manifestation such as a weapon or armour, but if you hazard to put a shape to it, the body itself can be called the Noble Phantasm.
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>>123843714
Miyu will never be a servant fuck off you pedophile
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>>123843768
I'd berry my dick into her arc
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>>123843701
And I forgot pic
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>>123843768
No matter how much I have to spend. She's the perfect buddy for my Saber Alter.
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>>123842981
Cute girls you say? I can handle that.
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>Light Yagami can solo every servant in the nasuverse with prep time to find out their real name and see their face.

Refute this statement.

Protip: You can't.
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>>123843847
They're there? Good.
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>>123843801
Aren't most of the swords pretty weak?
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>>123843883
>it only works on humans
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Drakefag can defeat Hercfags. Discuss.
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>>123843732
Not saying everyone is, but everytime you see the "Goku" or "Demonbane" shit, it's him without a doubt, or someone following his steps. Things like the EAM STR transfer is also that tier of retarded, so I would think it's him too, considering whoever made the argument isn't even posting quotes to prove it.
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>>123843801
Because Nasu doesn't want to make Shirou OP so he says whatever the shit he wants.

Even if the exact same method always works for Gilgamesh
>but muh rank downgrade

It doesn't fucking matter, it should still be useful.

>>123843904
They were powerful enough to counter GoB swords so no
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>lancelot vs herk
>cute girls
>Prisma
>clown
>do the Candies expire
>bloodborne
What is going on in this thread
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>>123843867
That's a cute girl you've got there. Here, have another cute girl.
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>>123843847
>no proof that this pic was taken after the halloween event

Noise
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>>123843937
what about deermudfag
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>>123843883
>God Hand
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>>123843904
Does that matter when he's using them as fodder projectiles? Literally the only time sword quality matters is against someone like Herc or Sieg.
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>>123843883
Most servant's are already dead...
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>>123843801
>Why is UBW so weak, really?
It isn't. Nasu is retarded and you shouldn't take anything he says seriously.
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>>123843883
>Batman can begin investigating the Kira murder case, identify Light Yagami as the culprit, and bring him to justice before his identity can be revealed and his name written in the Death Note.

Refute this statement.

Protip: You can't.
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>>123843617
>I don't mind being hated if I'm defending what I believe is right.

But you AREN'T defending it. You're asserting it every chance you get, only to back off as soon as anyone calls you a faggot in order to cry about how you're being hated.

You're literally using the SJW tactic. You're literally as bad as SJWs.
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>>123843987
Is there a powerlevel chart for the fanbases?

Saberfags would obviously be top tier, by the way.
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>>123843987
Ozzyanon can handle him by himself.
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>>123843987
Diarmud vs Cu.

Who wins?
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>>123843469
>wants to level Cu because only Lv 44
>have to prioritize the spider grind
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>>123843889
Yes they are still here. Besides, it would be an incredible dick move to erase ascension materials after an events ends. At least they give you a warning about Nobu being gone if you don't get to 100k HP if anything.

>>123843986
Who hurt you?
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>>123843617
Holy shit you nigger, do you really think you're some kind of persecuted minority standing up for justice? You're an autist crying on a Filipino tatooing imageboard about how your favorite Japanese fictional character loosely based off a Mary Sue from Arthurian myth is the bestest ever and can beat up god because you love him so much.

There is nothing admirable about your cause. You may as well be crying that his armor's the wrong shade of blue.
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Where do I get stuff to level up my servants?
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>>123844003

>what are different causes of death
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>>123844135
Nasu says Diarmuid, even though a cursory glance at their legends would tell you how Cu outclasses Diarmuid so hard it's not even funny.
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>>123844169
what does spider stand for?
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>>123844068
Daily reminder that ozzyfag with prep time can solo the saberfags with Unlimited King Works. But Astoflofag is his hard counter thanks to Every Thread Works.
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>>123844059
I'm not backing off, I'm still defending my point of A STR with every quote I know off. The problem i the other faggot claiming EAM transfers STR rank to the weapons. No matter how you see it, it's a clear troll.
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Where does she stand in the Nasu Powerlevels scale?
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>>123844135
Cu, easily. He spams the shit out of GB all the time.
>>123844290
>Nasu says Diarmud
Except he never said nor implied that. He only said Diarmud has more firepower because of a better master, which means he has better stats.

Those stats aren't saving him from Gae Bolg.
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>>123844135
No matter who loses, I win.
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>>123844068
Saberfags do fuck all in these threads.
They appear in droves for seibahface but they don't shitpost.
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>>123844135
Probably Cu, especially if we're talking the full Heroic Spirits and not them being limited by class.

>>123844290
Nasu's words on the fight nerfed Cu by taking Masters into consideration.
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>>123844347
Saber Typhoon would kill Ozzyfag before he even gets started, stop trying to enforce your meme.
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>>123844293
>Spiders (order Araneae) are air-breathing arthropods that have eight legs and chelicerae with fangs that inject venom. They are the largest order of arachnids and rank seventh in total species diversity among all other orders of organisms.[2] Spiders are found worldwide on every continent except for Antarctica, and have become established in nearly every habitat with the exceptions of air and sea colonization. As of November 2015, at least 45,700 spider species,[3] and 114 families have been recorded by taxonomists.[1] However, there has been dissension within the scientific community as to how all these families should be classified, as evidenced by the over 20 different classifications that have been proposed since 1900.
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>>123844365
>it's a clear troll
No, it's just another one of you faggots being retarded like usual.
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>>123844293
Peter Benjamin Parker
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>>123844449
Post sauce
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Would Shirou + Iskander be the most broken Master Servant pair ever?
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>>123844507
Why is he so cool? He's a better hero than all Nasuverse Heroic Spirits combined
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>>123843617
>hurr durr i'm being oppressed
Fuck off back to your Tumblr account faggot.
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>>123844290
>Diarmuid
It was that it'd depend on their masters with Fastwheels being a better magus than Kotomine.
>Legends
The part where Diarmuid takes on those two armies?
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>>123844257
Flip here.

I mostly ignore the Lancelot whatever autism but am wondering what this Filipino tatooing board came from? I mean, we're not really asian-ish and hsing tatoos are kinda streching it so the "Chinese catoon, vietnamese drawing, thai doodles" joke doesn't really work here.

Unless there's something special about our tatoos?
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>>123844365
That doesn't change the fact that your own point about A STR is completely wrong
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>>123844543

Have fun getting shot in the head.
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>>123844543
Still cant beat Hakuno and literally anyone.
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>>123844449
Can Lancelot KoH work on spooky spoder?
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>>123844479
Doesn't seem like it considering anti-jetfag is already proven to pose as other people.
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>>123844543
No. Herc needs a lot of Mana, we already saw how he was doing with Waver.

>>123844596
Read this >>123844406

Cu also has feats of taking armies, also of killing people even after death.

Every irish hero takes armies.
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>>123844417
Saberfags are lazy and don't shitpost, but when they're being serious they show an immense amount of strength. They have the best stats out of all the fags and the best skills. Saberfags can kill every fanbase by themselves.
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>>123844596
>only two armies
laughingdog.png
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>>123844443
Its not a meme when it's true. The saberfags fight with diarmuidfag in the Diarmuid's Feel route proved the saberfags are hard countered by husbando spam.

>inb4 you say it's not canon

>inb4 you try to say Ozzy's Feel isn't canon
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>>123844608
I'm betting it's about them traditional tattoos done by some hundred-something old woman.
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>>123844543
Nope, me and Siegfried would be the most broken, because love conquers all
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>>123844624
Who would win in a fight, Hakuno with EMIYA as a Servant or Emiya with HAKUNO as a Servant?
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>>123844543
No, they probably wouldn't be compatible. Iskander had a lot of problems with Saber, I can't imagine he would want a master with similar motivations.
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Why is this general so shit?
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>>123844694
>herc

Welp, I meant Iskandar obviously.
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>>123844365

>>123843497
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>>123844765
>Hakuno as a Servant
What NP and class?
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>>123844653
On ORT? Of course, how can that shit be seen as anything other than a weapon? Yes, I'm joking in case some retard anti actually takes it serious.

Now, as for the Herkeks that seem to not have read the novel, I have it right here for you. Caliburn, while being in Shirou hands, is C rank considering it's a projection and when it's not in the hands of the king, Caliburn is B.

Now, I saw Herkeks saying "Shirou doesn't have A STR". Well, for that moment, he did, 2 images for this. Something you people could easily know if you had read the fucking novel.
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>>123844365
>BACK THE FUCK OFF????!?!?!
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>>123844543
No.

You can't have two Reality Marbles up at once.
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Guys I just had an epiphany. Lancelot could KoH Hercules' Master command seals and use them to force hercules to commit suicide 12 different times. He doesn't have magic resistance so he HAS to follow those orders.
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>>123844531
Does this count as a rare pepe?
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>>123843801
>an onslaught of literal infinite swords
It isn't
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>>123844919
while I know you're trolling it's actually specifically stated that if it wasn't for illya and hers being special, command seals would barely work on him.
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>>123844725
That's basically fanwank written by some faggot who isn't Nasu, so who cares about it? Not even fully translated.

That was a bad matchup also, the Deermudfag had a higher devotion stat than Saberfags.

Watch Saberfags go against Ozzyfag and fuck him up.
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>>123844905
Set up IH then trace swords in the RM. Don't need UBW and IH up at the same time
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>>123844808
it's a general about a mobile game with no content. that and because the type moon fanbase is cancerous as fuck.
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>>123844889
Where does that say Shirou has A rank strenght?
Why do you keep pursuing this when the canon explanation is that Caliburn goes to A+?
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>>123844549
Because he's just a kid from Queens who barely knows right from wrong, let alone how to be a superhero, but he tries his best to try and do right by the family that raised him, and use his power responsibly. He's like the antithesis of heroes like Achilles who had limitless power and privilege from the day they were born.

Also, just did some math. Spider-Man, by Nasu standards would have A+ STR. How does this make you feel, /fgog/? Could he kill Servants?
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>>123844905
Shirou can project a decent number of weapons without deploying UBW though.
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>>123844694
Pretty much. Cu is this fourteen fingered, fourteen toed pretty boy who slept with every woman he saw.
>>123844543
Master Artoria and any Arthurian servant minus Mordred. Their Arthur-boner would increase their powers exponentially.
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>>123844968
ENGLISH GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
LEAVE ME WITH MY CRISPY JANNU TENDIES
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>>123843970
You also posted a very cute girl, let me post another!
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>>123845024

How is that relevant? Illiya would be the master so my statement still stands.
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>>123844889
Second image, he was EASILY blocking the attacks. Keep in mind B STR Saber was getting BTFO and sent flying by Herc. And the sword is moving on it's own too.
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>>123844808
Because it's full of fucking frogposters and reddit.
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>>123845159
How do you tell the difference between the 2 sisters?
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>>123845173
And did you miss the part where it was Caliburn doing all the tricks?
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>>123845159
I like it.

Here's some more cute.
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>>123845051
>Why do you keep pursuing this when the canon explanation is that Caliburn goes to A+?
The canon explanation is A STR. Caliburn doesn't go to A+ unless a king is using it. Shirou is not a king, hence C rank. The sword is literally stated to be moving on it's own and no matter the rank of the NP, it's impossible to block attacks with just NP rank, let alone do it easily as stated >>123845173
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>>123843801
He's Batrman the servant, he was alwatys called Batman the servant, and he'll always be Batman the servant.

Batman is a guy who doesn't beat Superman by running up and punching him in the jaw, which is something you should get.

Batman is someone who knows he's inferior, he's not the best anything, so he hones what he has to its utmost and uses his knowledge and abilities to their utmost combined with versatility to apply his gadgets perfectly.

You bitches want him to be Superman, but he'll always be Batman. He's called a guy who can't rely on his NP like its the only thing or it'll be brushed off, and his stats are subpar, but if he uses it effectively with his knowledge then he can beat almost anyone. He's a guy who has honed his own sword maritial arts, mind's eye, tracing, shit-talking etc to be quite formidable at throwing people off balance. If he relied solely on any one of those things he'd be dead though, its gotta be all of them.

You really don't get shit if you think what Nasu's saying is that UBW is shit, but he cannot use it like GoB, it cannot be mindless spam, or else he'll be dead in seconds. He has to be Batman, he has to use it effectively and smartly. UBW is very dangerous, but its never going to be Superman. It has a lot more drawbacks against other servants than GoB does.

Its like the whole "Nasu hates guns" debate, I can walk people through it a hundred times, and they still come out all "So you're saying Nasu hates UBW?". UBW is an effective tool, but it in itself if he just tries to use it like GoB, or spams, he'll be dead. It doesn't work like that, its not GoB, no matter how many times I have that discussion with someone going "So you're saying UBW is GoB but way better?" they are entirely different despite seeming superficially the same.

He has to use it his own way for it to be effective, but it has been shown to be more than effective when he has used it properly.
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>>123845250
Ones tsundere and ones lazy.
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>>123845316

It could be said that Shirou is the king of seigi no mikoto's
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>>123845250
Headband and personality.
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>>123845375
Which is which? And I meant from the looks.
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Did someone call me?

I'll fight any seiba or ozzy or lancelot!
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>>123845424
Euryale is a tsun, Stheno isnt.
And they have different headbands.
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>>123844620
It's not and the novel proves it. Don't care if you can't handle it and decide to ignore it with your headcanon. My quotes are there, therefore I'm right.

>>123843497
STR is used for physical attacks only, The bullet isn't going to become A ranked because of it. However if you hit someone with the gun itself, it's A ranked.

>>123845251
Swinging itself with A STR.
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>>123845032
>implying Nasu didn't supervise and green light the whole route

Saberfags only managed to kill of 3 of Diarmuidfags' 12 lives. And that was him under Mad Enchantment, who couldn't even use Nine Lives: The Shooting Hundred Husanbandos. Ozzyfag with full motor skills and NP access would handle them fine. As soon as the Promised Time activates he's won. Saberfags best bet is to overwhelm him with the Gate of Saber. But of course they won't be serious, and let him activate it.
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>>123845316
There's no "canon" explanation, that's your headcanon explanation. Nasu pretty much states that the reason of Caliburn being so strong is its reunion with Saber. Nothing more. NOTHING.
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>>123845419
>>123845513
>headband
They look the same in HA.
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>>123845173
Why are you posting this again?

Do you have this sort of delusion that even if your headcanon of A rank STR works Lancelot would not get killed before by Herc? Herc is vastly superior to him.
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>>123845250
In the original art you could only tell my slight differences on the mouth and the expression of the two, now you can tell from the headband.
My waifu is Euryale, not Stheno.
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>>123845359
UBW is a stronger GoB, deal with it.
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>>123845557
>dismissing anything said against him as headcanon

I've been on this general for too long, I'm starting to be able to tell the autists apart.
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>>123845683
They appeared in one scene in Ataraxia.
Ataraxia is also a decade old and no longer relevant in the nasuverse.
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People still arguing about Shirou's strength when wielding weapons?
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>>123845359
UBW is superior to GoB.

GoB can kill servants.

Therefore UBW should kill servants.
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>>123845784
If we are only going by GO, then their whole outfit is different, not just the headband.
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>>123845678
Yeah, that's when she grabbed it and then Herc got destroyed, that's when it was called a miracle. Before, it was C ranked, as stated in CANON, because the reason given for Caliburn to reach A+ is being used by the king, read Lily profile.

If you can't handle that, then that's your problem, but that's how it works in canon.
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>>123845787
He has literally had a magic arm transplant in that scene.
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>>123845557

>The bullet isn't going to be A ranked because of it

>what is the lancelot vs gil jet fight where he uses his a ranked jet machine guns against gil
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>>123845787
You're not helping yourself. Shirou needs Archer's arm to have the strenght to use a big sword.

Archer's arm just to swing it.

In Fate route he doesn't have Archer's arm, in fact he's the weakest shirou.
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Whew, that was a harsh journey. Finally got that last skull I needed and got our new recruit's NP to level 2. Everything from here on out is smooth sailings. Its time to set my Captain back as the leader for the rest of this expedition (after this Assassin thing is done). I miss using her already.

I don't really care about having level 5, as long as I have them along for the adventure, its all fine by me.
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>>123845935
He literally uses the same magic in Fate and UBW and goes through the same steps as Archer..
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>>123845787
Yeah, Shirou with Archer's arm is definitely on the same level with Shirou and his 3rd or so successful projection.
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>>123845775
If it's against the quote, it's headcanon. Is there really any problem with that?

>>123845787
Herkeks can't handle the fact that he has no chance against Lancelot therefore need to make whatever excuses they can come up with even though they know they are wrong.
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>>123845970
You're misreading it. In that situation, he is saying he cannot handle the sword because he's not capable of tracing it. But his arm, taken from Archer, is.
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>>123846031
>he has no chance against Lancelot

Hercules is superior to Lancelot in every way.
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>>123846031

It's always the fucking herkeks that try to start shit and provoke the lancelot fans,
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>>123845787
>Shirou's strenth
>post Archer's arm strength

>>123845829
UBW is not superior to GOB. Heck it can't even carry wines, submarines, clothes, aircraft, etc.

Can Shirou wield UBW better than Gil wielding GOB when it comes to swords? yes.
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>>123846152
>literally use the same magic

Read the steps of projection sometime
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>>123845631
>spreading that rumor again

Saberfags got debuffed by the Lancelotfags and Hercfags who had teamed up to fight them, so of course they'd be weaker. Diarmuidfag and Saberfags is simply a bad match up that fucks over Saberfags.

Saberfags can just tank through the NP by force of number to have a chance at killing Ozzyfag. Their other NP, Eternal Saberface, really makes them unrivalled against anything.
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>>123846152
Gil kills faggots with those same swords, so yeah.
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>>123845970
>>123845993
>>123845935
Proven wrong >>123844889 and here >>123845173
Miracle happened after that when Saber actually grabbed the sword with Shirou, which is the condition given for it to reach A+, being used by the king. Before that, it's B, or C in Shirou case.

>>123845695
>Headcanon
Novel is with me, the only one arguing with headcanon here is you.

>Herc is vastly superior to him.
Herc has the same stats and no skill compared to Lancelot top tier skill. The one that is vastly superior is Lancelot, Herc has 0 chance of winning besides a Kariya heart attack.
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>>123846031
Just having quotes there doesn't help an argument if you're blatantly twisting them. Caliburn is wielding itself at first, its imbued technique allowing it in Shirou's hands to fend off Berserker's attacks. But it still never lands a hit. You have no proof it was an A-rank attack because we never see it kill Herc until the end. You can claim it was being wielded with A-rank STR, but that's a meaningless declaration considering Saber was previously, and afterwards in the VN, shown to be able to block Herc's attacks with only B-rank STR.
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>>123846249
>Top tier skill
Herc has top tier power which is flat out stated to be superior to skill
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>>123846093
How is he superior when he has the same stats, and no skill as a Berserker?

>>123846135
Well, they started, it all originated from >>123831816
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>>123846386
That's not "starting shit" that's asking a fucking question meant to provoke discussion about the abilities of various Berserkers. You got plenty of people posting actual match-ups and how they'd go down like Asterios and Vlad, only the jetfags were asspained enough to fling shit and make it a shouting match.
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>>123846249
>Novel is with me
No, your bullshit interpretation is.
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Well, that's another thread ruined.
Hopefully the next one will be better.
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>>123846152
Gil shits on a ton of people just spamming weapons so there's no reason why Shirou can't do the same.
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>>123846461
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>>123846386
>Hercfags (If any actually exist) are utterly silent for threads upon threads
>Supposed Hercfag shows up after JETSfags have been BTFO and shat all over for thread after thread recently
You lancelotshitters are pathetic
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>>123846461
It won't be better unless the jetfag goes on another 4-day vow of silence in some deluded attempt to "prove" he's not the one that starts shit, only to come back and start shit again as soon as his sabbatical ends.
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>>123846468
Except he has less versatility, mana and his swords are weaker?
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>>123846468
GoB costs no mana and UBW costs a shitton. Shirou can't sustain it long enough to make it as big as a problem, and neither can EMIYA.
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>>123846461
>jetniggers
>being able to control their shitposting urges
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>>123846347
Same stats, so they are the same in power. Lancelot has skill on top of that which destroys Herc chances.

>>123846294
>Caliburn is wielding itself at first, its imbued technique allowing it in Shirou's hands to fend off Berserker's attacks. But it still never lands a hit.
It does land a hit, it cut Herc arm allowing Rin to escape. >>123840207

>You have no proof it was an A-rank attack because we never see it kill Herc until the end.
You need A rank attack to HARM him. The attack took his entire arm.

>You can claim it was being wielded with A-rank STR, but that's a meaningless declaration considering Saber was previously, and afterwards in the VN, shown to be able to block Herc's attacks with only B-rank STR.
Was sent flying many times while Shirou is outright stated to have done it easily. It's using Saber's original STR rank, A.
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>>123846585
>>123846568
This. The swords being weaker isn't a huge deal considering he has the luxury of breaking them to increase their power, but the mana drain is enormous compared to GoB, and only a top-tier master would be able to sustain Emiya well enough for him to pull off extensive use of UBW.
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>>123845359
Nasu spouts a lot of bullshit without substantiating any of it and yet there will always be people like you who choke themselves on his cock acting like everything he says always makes perfect logical sense.

There is literally no downside to mindlessly spamming weapons ON TOP of doing what he always does aside from burning through mana faster, and that isn't even an issue in UFOTable canon since he maintains UBW for ages while running on empty.
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Power level discussions for Fate are a joke because Fate itself is pretty light hearted and battles are pretty much won and lost solely because of plot.
This isn't a powerlevel series it's a waifufaggotry one.
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>>123846649
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>Lancelotshitters and Herckeks trying to talk
>Neither of these jobbers have won a single Grail War whereas even pic related has won up to two
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>>123846460
There is no bullshit interpretation. We have been shown how Caliburn works by Lily, we know the sword is C when wielded by Shirou, and we see it taking Herc arm and easily blocking his attacks.

You saying Caliburn is A+ goes directly against the established canon.
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>>123846635
>Same stats

Just because they both have A doesn't mean it's the same. Heracles has way better strenght feats and Endurance than Lancelot.

Your point goes back up there to the
>EXcalibur is equal to Enuma Elish because they're both EX rank
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>>123846797

He's the fucking writer for the franchise, if we can't trust what he says then what the fuck do we believe?
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>>123846635
You're right about the arm cutting, I had forgotten about that. Though if it's not being used as a Noble Phantasm, and just as a weapon, that would mean it's an A-rank attack. I don't see how that inherently means Shirou has A-rank STR. After all, Rin isn't known to have have A-rank MAG but she's able to harm Herc with her gem magic.
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>>123846840
No!
Leave UMU out of this!
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>>123846805
>waifufaggotry
Post cute girls!
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>>123846635
>Lancelot has skill
Saber, Archer and Gilgamesh stated that Heracles' skill is superb. Post that VN screenshot with Shirou's words again, I dare you.
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>>123846206
Ozzyfag can still get by if he has enough quartz in the vault though, which keeps growing every week. The stat parameters he gains have no limit. And god help it if he pass the luck check with the gatcha.

>eternal saberface

Not this shit again. Fate/Saber Zero was a mistake. All of those Astolfofag-fags secondaries started swarming the thread very since it came out.
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>>123846929


>>/c/
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>>123846929
Nobu is cute! Cute!
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>>123846929
Posting
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>>123846201
If Shirou uses Nine Lives with his normal arm, it would break apart. He can copy the skills and the sword will swing accordingly, but that doesn't make his arm strong enough to actually follow the sword's movement.

Unlimited Codes shows this as Shirou feeling pain in his arm then collapsing afterwards, though for gameplay purposes, they can't really tear his arm apart for doing his super.
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>>123846871
We trust what he writes, not what he says. When it comes to interviews there's little sense to be found, considering how much he contradicts himself in them. Best to rely on feats solely within the visual novel itself.
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>>123847063
There's something about Blossom-sensei today
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http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=53814650
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>>123846871
You take everything he says with a sizeable grain of salt since he plays fast and loose with his own rules as long as the end result is cool.
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>>123847193
Thanks for that.
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>>123847102
I don't think you can take everything in UC at 100% face value.
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>>123828716
Newfag here, where do I get good level up cards for my servants?
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>>123847314
>Tfw can't view on mobile
Can someone imgur it, please?
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>>123847319

Everything in the nasuverse is canon.
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>>123847193
what the fuck
>28 year old female from spain
letting gaijins onto pixiv was a mistake
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>>123843469
Would a level 70 Cu be able to handle that quest by himself?
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>>123847383
Uhhhh, you don't want us to do that. Trust me. Really.
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>>123847346
Exp dailies in the Chaldea Gate. The bottom most quests.
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>>123846857
>Just because they both have A doesn't mean it's the same.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, they both have A, both are the same. They are both at 50. Read materials to know how parameters work.

>Heracles has way better strenght feats and Endurance than Lancelot.
It's the other way around. Lancelot could easily block all the incoming attacks from the GoB, while Herc was getting his Axesword repelled.

Also Lancelot tanked Gordius Wheel without dying and Saber attack to the head, but this is hard to compare as Gordius Wheel was the equivalent of 8 B ranked attacks and Saber attack was B ranked, and the only way to quantify Herc END feats are with A and up rank attacks.

>EXcalibur is equal to Enuma Elish because they're both EX rank
Enuma Elish is EX because of the concept, not because of the firepower, have you even read the materials?
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>>123847346
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/quest_daily.php#nav
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>>123847481
Is it bad? All I could see was the sakura saber and r-18 tag.
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>>123847193
kill it with fire
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>>123846938
So you know about the VN quote, then why are you arguing? You are basically going against canon here. Where did they say that? Anime? That's not canon.
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>>123847193
DA is moving to pixiv
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>>123847547
Thank you anon.
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>>123847489

Whoever made the "muh riggings" picture, we nee a "muh materials" one ASAP
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>>123847578
Yes. Yes it was.
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>>123847581
>>123847528
I regret asking for this.
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>>123846891
That doesn't mean Shirou has A STR, but his attacks were A ranked STR at that moment because it traced Saber original STR.

Still, it proves you can harm Herc with A STR, don't really know why I went to this extent when even questions made to Nasu confirm this.
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>>123847614

Everything in the nasuverse is canon.

>>123847627
>>123847581


This is why waifufaggotry is undesirable.
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Think the bigger issue is she has a patreon and is getting 75 bucks a month for terrible art.
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Cute
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>>123847646
>Can't back up his headcanon so he needs to resort to memes now
Well, this is done isn't it? You could have just accepted that you lost instead of falling this low.
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>>123847727
Except Shirou's tracings are imperfect, so by your logic he should still only have B rank STR.
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How do JETSfags justify him going out like a total bitch in France?
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>>123847807
>the quartz in the background
STOP MOCKING ME
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>>123847702
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>>123847807
>>123847627
literally /b/ seiba
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>>123847818
There's no-one replying to you anon. You keep posting shit and nobody cares because we all know Hercules>>>>Who the fuck is lancelot?
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>>123847738
just kill me now
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>>123847865

Gameplay, not canon. You could potentially kill any servant with fucking Mozart if you wanted to.
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>>123847489
>Also Lancelot tanked Gordius Wheel
Not a proper Noble Phantasm attack. And he's wrecked by that attack and forced to retreat. Also
>muh EAM
Diarmuid with the same Agility and without EAM dodged that.
>Saber attack to the head
Through the motherfucking van? That van sustained several bursts of D-rank NP bullets.
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>>123847959
Except he gets BTFO in the story, too.
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>>123847391
Not game mechanics. Game mechanics haven't been canon since Melty.
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Lewd.
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>>123848045
disgusting
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>>123846847
It's almost like a miracle that her sword was a+ in the hands of the guy who had dreams about it for half the game and has the sheath of a king inside his body.
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>>123848024
>implying that there's no reasonable explanation of TATARI evening the odds.
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>>123848024
Is Banana Shiki canon?
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>>123848084
Jetfags will still repeat that Shirou, a 17 y/o ginger has A rank strenght.
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JETFAGS AGAIN
Holy shit can you limit yourself to 2 or less ghreads a day for the love of god.
This is already the 4th thread TODAY, you'd think that after 7+ fucking days they would get tired of this.
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>>123847735
>Everything in the nasuverse is canon.
So, Heracles being unable to handle a barrage of 4 GoB without being damaged is canon? So much for the superb skill. Invisible Air harming God Hand is canon (no A STR either)? There was so much wrong about the anime that I can't help but laugh at retards that think it's canon.

>>123847860
Do the Projection rules also harm the projected stats or was it only the NP? Nine Lives makes it clear he copied Herc STR. Regardless of it being imperfect or not, B ranked Caliburn isn't harming Herc either and physical attacks are counted with STR, not NP rank.

>>123847865
No jets and Saberface made him go retarded. This happened to him in Zero too, Saberface is his kryptonite.
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>tfw I just bought my 5th GUDAO CE this morning
Guess it's time to level up my strongest GUDAO then
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>>123848219
One could say that their autism is unrivaled.
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>>123848124
As canon as sugoi sugoi in an aoko mirror match
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>>123848208
You're intentionally misrepresenting the argument.
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>>123848024
If Nobunaga who was created as a gag character for a gag manga is canon. Then everything is canon.
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>>123848248
Nero confirmed for the counter to UNRIVALED. Saberface + Aestus Domus Aurea where she can become UNRIVALED herself if not UNRIVALED among UNRIVALED status.
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>>123848219
Jetfags are truly unwanted
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>>123848248
>Saberface is his kryptonite
Then he's fucked in every single normal HGW.
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>>123848397
Not every single war strange fake is perhaps the only latest war that has no saber face. It's a step in the right direction at least.
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>>123848321
heyo thats from reddit aint it
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>>123848248
>Do the Projection rules also harm the projected stats or was it only the NP?
Both of them. This is explained in the UBW route when Shirou is comparing he and Gil's abilities. They are both described as owners of weapons who, while in possession of many extremely powerful weapons don't possess the skill or training to unlock all the abilities of many of them. Everything Shirou creates is an imitation, including the skills he copies to wield the weapons he projects, and is thus ranked down from the original.
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>>123848512
Morgan is the True Caster.
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>>123848321
Gag series are canon. Game mechanics are not.

The Moon Cell Grail War was not won with Rock-Paper-Scissors, Hakuno's name was Hakuno and not FAGBALLS, and Hakuno's Servant wasn't summoned with Es in every stat.

Characters from Melty like the maids or Miyako can't stand up to monsters like Arc or Kouma, and literally nobody in the cast can kill Nrvnqsr except for the Shikis. And Arcuied doesn't even have Magic Circuits.

Shirou never learned how to project Caliburn and use Crane Wing/NLBW in the same timeline. Rin can't just pull out the Jewel Sword whenever she wants to. And characters like Kirei, Sasaki, Rin, or Bazett can't hope to 1v1 Berserker Herc and come out victorious.

And practically none of the skills in Grand Order work in the lore the same way they do in the game.
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>>123847984
>Not a proper Noble Phantasm attack.
Still 8 B ranked attacks.

>Diarmuid with the same Agility and without EAM dodged that.
Because he saw it coming, Lancelot actually did something impossible via EAM during that part.
>Lancer quickly flipped backwards and avoided the chariot in time. But for Berserker, who kept all his attention of Saber, he didn’t even have time to turn around and register what was going on.
>The black knight, who was stomped upon by the divine bulls, finally managed to bend his body around and crawl away from the chariot’s path. He had noticed Rider, and luckily avoided the decisive maximum impact of the chariot wheels.
>Had Rider wanted to, even Saber, much less Lancer, would have fallen prey to those hooves and wheels.
While it's stated both Lancer and Saber would have been hit by the wheels if Iskander wanted, Lancelot did the impossible and did what was stated that they couldn't do, dodge the wheels.

>Through the motherfucking van? That van sustained several bursts of D-rank NP bullets.
The van was gone after a few seconds, this is why you should stop watching the anime and read the novel.
>At that point, the rain of bullets targeting Saber crumpled the truck as if it had been a paper model.
>Berserker continued to shoot, using the machine gun to mercilessly smash the structure of the truck to iron chips. Even though the heavy frame of the truck quickly met its disintegrated fate, from Saber’s perspective, as long as the ‘temporary shield’ could close the distance and bring Berserker into proximity of her sword’s attack, it would be enough.
The parts that got hit were going like paper. It wasn't taking shit.

>>123848084
That doesn't matter, Lily already told us the requirements for it being A+, Not only that, but physical attacks are counted with STR, and Shirou was easily blocking Herc attacks, which cannot be done with NP rank.

Just accept you are wrong, your headcanon isn't going to work against canon facts.
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>>123848680
>Tfw I will never roll her
Just fuck my shit up senpai ;_;
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>>123848769
>Arcuied
I see this often. It's Arcueid. Spell my waifu's name correctly please.
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>>123848910
>Arceuid is mai waifu.
I see this often. She's a shit. Please get a better waifu.
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>>123848352
>>123848397
He isn't fucked as long as they are left alone. Whoever, every time he got BTFO, it was because the retard picked up fights with many supporting the Saberface. When they were left alone, then his shit Master was the one to stop him. I really don't get why he doesn't have E Luck with that Lancer tier luck.

>>123848636
Skills don't translate to stats, anon.
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>>123849004
>She's a shit
9 out of 10 whales disagree.
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>>123849004
>Having taste this shit
I'm not surprised. This general is Fate related afterall.
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>>123849078
Redesign Arcueid is literal shit, fucking kill yourself if you waifu that
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>>123849013
Not him, but how do you explain Gil not just speed blitzing Shirou then with his superior, inhuman Servant AGI? The only answer is that Shirou projected the speed and strength necessary.
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>>123849013
So you're telling me the Noble Phantasm itself receives a rank-down, all the talent, experience, skill and technique of the person Shirou's copying receives a rank-down, but the strength of the person who wielded the weapon ISN'T ranked down? How on earth did you come to that bizarrely selective conclusion?
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>>123848910
95% of the time I just call her Arc so I just never bothered to learn how it's actually spelled.

She's great, though.
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>>123849121
Redesigned Arcueid is the only acceptable version of her.
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Fresh bread
>>123849168
>>123849168

>>123849168

>>123849168
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>>123849121
Arcueid is literal perfection. Fuck off.
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>>123847735
>Everything in the nasuverse is canon.
https://youtu.be/CRsIzKNr8cQ?t=1m37s

Reminder Herc has such superb skill he can't even handle more than a barrage of 2 without getting hit. So much for "the strongest in the world". Herkeks are probably as delusional as Illya.
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>>123848784
>Still 8 B ranked attacks.
Still forced to retreat.
>did what was stated that they couldn't do
That's Rider not attacking everyone after the initial charge.
>The parts that got hit were going like paper.
So Lancelot couldn't tear it apart in time even with IDKFA NP SMGs?
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>>123849121
Redesign Arc is fine. Her air intakes could stand to be a little better, and she isn't as good as old Arc, but she's still best Tsukihime heroine.

You'd think that, what, three years after the remake designs came out, the redesigns would have grown on most people, but apparently not.
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>>123849138
Read the fight against Gil in the park.
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>>123849138
I'm not saying he doesn't copy stats though.

>>123849153
Well, first of all, it's not stated that gets ranked down, second, it's said the Axesword can only be used by Herc because of his STR. If the STR was ranked down, Shirou wouldn't have been able to wield the Axesword.
>It’s only because of Berserker’s ridiculous strength that such a thing can be considered a weapon at all.
Fate/complete material II: Weapons: Nameless Axe-Sword
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>>123849349
>That's Rider not attacking everyone after the initial charge.
Literally stated that he could have made them eat the wheels if he wanted. However, the same was not said about Lancelot, in fact, he dodge the wheels.

Fire rate was stated to be at around 20 per second and it only lasted a few. As strong as the small machineguns were now, they were still not enough to destroy the truck completely in time. However, the parts that got hit went like if they were paper mache. It didn't tank anything at all.
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>>123849227
Literally this
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>>123849356
The air intakes are a trademark part of Arc
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>>123850715
They're still there, they're just downplayed.
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>>123845250
You literally can't.

If I remember correctly, In Hollow Ataraxia it was said that you can't possibly differentiate them. It's impossible to begin with since they call each other 'ME'.

Well, in other words buzz off and play Hollow Ataraxia Instead of playing this crappy spin-off mobage all of the time, you filthy secondary.
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>>123850897
The best
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>>123853061
>The top face in the right

>Ooooi Shiki..!

It's that face when Shiki mocks her or treats her weird.
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