/bbg/ - Bloodborne General

>>123753813
The fanart is coming

I am ready.

The DLC is incredibly easy the second time you go through it.

I'm going to nightmares only to laugh at those pathetic retards believing in some "honor rules".

I hate people who think that souls games are some kind of a fighting game. They are always the most whiny, pathetic people crying about nerfs to everything they can't counter, listening to twitch fucktards and following their retarded made up rules. Even /bbg/ has a fair share of BL98 circlejerking retards seriously believing that this level actually saves them from encountering players who don't want to play by their rules.

Anyone gonna update the Beasthood+Beast Claw pastebin to include the changes made in The Old Hunters?

I don't really know all that much about it outside of what the wiki says.

>>123753929
i think i would be less of a problem of BB PvP was more organic

because the system is so bad compared to previous systems it forces people who would normally just invade to get involved in TOTALLY SERIOUS MENSIS PVP and shit

>>123753927
Yeah, something I noticed is how short the Fishing Hamlet is if you just beeline for the shortcuts, lamps, and then Orphan.

Being cautious when you don't know where everything is lengthens the whole process considerably.

>>123753929
BL98 is strictly to avoid the BL150 fags who were cropping up on sites like Reddit. That's all it ever was and is. It has nothing to do with wanting people to play by rules or anything like that.

>>123754170
Oh, there's an invading upper limit now?

My fun rankings:

1. Maria
2. Ludwig
3. Orphan
4. Failures
5. Laurence

You, anon?

>>123754170
BL99 is strictly to avoid BL150
BL98 is strictly to invade Kobra in FCs

>>123754251
0. ludwig
1. orphan
2. maria
3. laurence
4. failures

i actually like failures, i just like all the bosses in this DLC. i like laurence because he's not THAT hard but people lose their shit because they're dying to "cleric beast"

>>123754251
1. Orphan
2. Maria
3. Ludwig
4. Failures
5. Laurence
Orphan and Maria were practically tied, and Ludwig is very close to them both.

>>123754046
I just cleared out fishing hamlet in NG+ and had the same thought. In fact, all of the DLC is pretty short once you know where you are going. Though you can say that for the non-DLC areas too.

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Was that last sentence always there? It's the lore note when going into Cathedral ward lamp.

>>123754251
Orphan
Ludwig
Maria
Laurence
Failures

>>123754398

Yep.

>>123753927
>>123754046
>>123754371
welcome to the souls series

Anyone up for Gas Can?

Ringing Beckoning Bell at Boss fog

>>123754475
pass?

>>123754475
>>123754506

bbg

>>123754547
>>123754506
>>123754475

wow that was like 15 seconds

>>123754727
I expected to fuck up and die but that Moonlight blade R2 combo breaker is sex itself.

top lel, warpigs will fight each other.

>>123754251
Ludwig
Orphan
Failures
Maria
Laurence

I actually had a lot of fun fighting Failures

Alright how to I cheese cursed amygdala? Been stuck for 3+ hours now

>>123754251
1. Maria
2. Ludwig/Orphan
3. Laurence
4. Failures

Though I did enjoy the fight with the failures and I don't think it's a bad boss fight

Dear Kos(some say Kosm),

Why did you leave me your stupid kid? I hate kids especially, giant, pale, eldritch horrors. All he wants to do is fight. I'm not ready to be a parent. I'm sorry.
-Shitty Hunter

>>123754854
What build? You shouldn't have difficulty with her until she rips of her arm. When she does that keep going behind her because she can only jump forwards, you can take potshots at her dangling arms until you kill her

How the fuck do I get more brain fluid? None of these stationary brains are dropping them.

So someone last night suggested that one of the two hunters near the elevator where you get laurences skull was saying the same prayer that vicar amelia does.

Anyone got anything more on that?

>>123754960
Kill the NPC wanting the brain fluid, obtain fluid, then hunter mark and talk to her again

>>123754960
The ones up the top on the rafters.

The one near the fog gate to Failures next to the hunter.

Kill the lady asking for it after she turns into a blob. She revives then you give it to her.

>>123755016
She's still strapped in the chair, though.

>>123755034
Killed the rafter one, got the brain fluid. Killed the one by the hunter, got nothing.

>>123754854
With Hunter's Axe untricked I literally just kept near its left leg the entire fight and slashed at the hand that dangled close to it.

Avoid getting stepped on by the way and keep running to its left if it starts swinging and pivoting instead of trying to step on you.

I literally did the entire fight only hitting its left hand.

>>123754854
in phases 1 and 3 you can cheese amygdala by getting behind her, hitting her tail, making sure to avoid her stomps, and waiting until she jumps. when she jumps, stop moving and charge an R2. she'll miss and you can aim the R2 at her head if you position correctly. this isn't terribly effective in phase 1, but it's the perfect strat for phase 3, because she'll jump constantly

you can cheese phases 1-2 with projectiles (especially executioner's gloves). if you're a melee build then you need to learn her attacks. in phase 1 hit the head, but in phase 2 seriously, just hit the arms. it's not worth it to hit the head. then cheese phase 3 with the jumps

i have killed amygdala maybe 100 times. you can literally treat her like a robot once you know this strat

are the normal gem versions of the chikage/bloodletter the best?

>>123755068
It takes a bit. Took me a couple of respawns for her to become moeblob mode. Have you killed/activated Failures yet?

>>123754975
it's the one in the white robe near the altar and yeah, i can confirm it. i was just there and i turned my volume way up to listen. it's the same prayer

>>123755130
Yes, I've beaten Orphan at this point, and she's still in the chair. I swear I only gave her one brain fluid, though, I don't understand what the deal is here.

>>123755118
the lost version has a circular slot for tinge gems, which are strictly better if you're a pure tinge build. they will gimp your regular damage and viscerals so if you ever use the 1h, use radial-radial-triangle versions

So I'm still on my first character. Currently getting all the stats to the soft cap. Are those +scaling gems actually worth it later on at like 99 skill and strength?

>>123755193
She gets out the chair after you give her two. The one in the rafter and the one by the hunter should drop them, if they didn't then try again because they'r the only sources.

>>123755219
thanks bro. was not familiar with tinge gems.

>>123755229
scaling gems are garbage EXCEPT Abyssal scaling gems from depth 5 chalices, which are better than % gems at 50 STR/ARC. you can't find Abyssal SKL gems

they stack very badly, so most weapons only want 1 scaling gem

>>123755253
Well, I've been trying multiple times on multiple reloads, so I'm not sure what to do. I think it's just the game being shitty at this point.

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Not touched BB for a while now. How is the online now? I struggled to invade anyone at around level 90 when I was playing. There a good level to be at for it?

>>123755257
phys gems work on both bloodtinge and phys damage increase for chikage/bloodletter.

Tinge gems are only for guns.

>>123755378
it's currently very active around that level in the DLC areas because, well, the DLC just came out

personally though once everybody got to Mensis i never had any trouble getting pvp there

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So was this a glitch or someone managed to somehow summon two invaders outside of sinister chalice somehow?

>>123755339
Uhhhhhh check your inventory to make sure you don't have it already although i'd assume youve done that.

Aside from that...you ARE aware it drops from the ones that are just heads lying on the ground right, not the full bodied ones. Just in case you're going to the wrong place.

If neither of those works then yeah it would appear you've got a bugged quest.

>>123755339
Here's what I did across four different characters.
>Talk to her
>give brain fluid
>get blood
>use blood
>talk to her (don't be greedy teehee)
>bold hunters mark
>repeat, talking to her after every use of blood
Worked flawlessly for me. Maria was alive too so that's not it.

>>123755381
so which gem do i get for the circular slot for the lost version?

>>123755339
>>123755458
Wait if you've beat orphan you have 100% given her two it's the only way to unlock the failures. My friend had the issue where she wouldn't get out of the chair and a couple of compete reloads fixed that so idk persevere I guess.

>>123755501
tinge gems. they're not just for guns.

normally only guns have a circular slot, and tinge gems can only go in a circular slot. the exception is Lost chikage and bloodletter, which have a circular slot despite not being guns

>>123755529
>it's the only way to unlock the failures
Um no

>>123755529

No, you don't need the balcony key for the failures. The door to them is unlocked.

>>123755456
Hopefully it wasn't

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>>123755458
>>123755472
I'll keep at it. Thanks for the help, it's just frustrating that I got it earlier on my non-arcane character, and now I'm having issues getting it on a character with 50 arc.

>>123755543
i see thanks again. got confused with the previous post saying it was only for guns.

anyone wanna help me with paarl? doing him early on, level 25. ringing where you enter from hypogean gaol.

pw: bbgp1

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Ludwig should have been the "final" boss. (Ignoring Orphan)

Maria was okay but she holds literally no wow factor other than the points that she was probably Gehrman's fuckbuddy at one point, is cute, and uses an anime weapon.

Ludwig is a terrifying beast that halfway through pulls out THE fucking magnum opus weapon of all FromSoft's games and turns from a hideous horsething into a swordsman.

Ludwig was just overall more impressive than Maria was.

>>123755571
>>123755564
tfw you try to assist and just make things more confusing

I am just vermin

>>123754916
>>123755071
>>123755089
Thank for the tips, but it's just not working out. I give up, this boss is making me drop the game.

>>123755706
Orphan was a better final boss, imo. Ludwig was nice but not nearly as difficult.

>>123755715

Oh no, anon, not at all.

You're a living failure.

>>123755219
I'm making a bloodtinge char too. So if I have 50bt I should be using lost versions? By gimping regular damage you mean 1h damage?

>>123755706
>Ludwig should have been the "final" boss. (Ignoring Orphan)
What do you mean here? That Ludwig should have come after Orphan?

>>123755706
imo ludwig is the best boss From has ever done

he's good mechanically, and he's fantastic artistically

>>123755794
Before Orphan.

>>123755702
At the little drop off area before Paarl? I'm ringing there.

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>>123755706
>Have used the MLGS in every game it has been in bar King's Field
>"You were at my side all along..."
>MFW

>that maria pic

Oh god I cannot wait for all the fanart.

>>123755702
hahaha thank you based pizza cutter, I think I hit him twice.

Speaking of bosses, Maria is everything I wanted the gehrman fight to be. When you finally fight him it was like woah he's the first hunter this is gonna be a straight up 1v1 and then like instantly he pulls out his ridiculous teleporting and magic shit and it's like oh....he's not like a hunter at all he's like a regular boss. Maria's first phase obviously has quickening but for the most part it feels like fighting a really fucking strong npc hunter, fuck if you catch her off guard you can stunlock her, I didn't mind dying to her because I felt like I got ouplayed.

Not that gehrmans fight was bad just not what I was expecting.

>>123755967
I like Paarl extra cheesy.

>>123755776
Only go lost if you only plan exclusively using trick mode
You'll be trading a 27% gem that affects both modes for a 31% gem that affects only trick mode, effectively trading a huge amount of 1h damage for a bit of a boost to 2h

Is the Old Hunter Bone Maria's?

>>123756080
I would like to think it is..

does the wheel deal only blunt damage?

are blunt%,flat arc better than %phys,flat arc?

>>123755706
>>123755742
>>123755794
>>123755812
>implying Laurence is not the true final boss

Even his theme says so

>inb4 "lol reskin"

>>123756169
Yes and (potentially) yes

>>123755706
Nigga shut up. Most of the games it's appeared in the sword was a secret weapon that was there just to be a King's Field reference.

Most people aren't going to give a shit about it, and the majority of the people that whine about it not being in the base game haven't even played any King's Field(which is the only series the sword is even important.)

Ludwig is the first boss because you're going back in time tracking down the sins of the hunters.

Maria is the missing link storywise between Byrgenwerth, Cainhurst, and the Hunter's Workshop. She's the last stop right before we hit the original discovery of Great Ones.

Ludwig is one of the least important figures in the game. That's why people are bitching so hard about Laurence being a Cleric Beast reskin on fire, because he's one of the most important characters to the story.

Quit being a faggot.

The moonlight sword is just a cool throwback more than anything else. It doesn't even have lore wank in its description.

>>123755458
>>123755472
After another reset the brain fluid dropped. I don't understand but I'll take it.

Also, should I go Uncanny or Lost Kos Parasite? Is there even such a thing for the DLC weapons?

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>>123756080
>Gehrman probably never confessed to Maria about his feelings even though she had at least admiration for him
>she most likely got involved with the church at some point and went into nightmare, leaving her own body to death on physical realm so Gehrman made a grave for her right near his own workshop and created the Doll while being unable to cope with grief and then accepting a position of host of the dream himself
>there's a photo of some man standing in a middle of tomb stones and looking at light on Maria's table, probably depicting a moment of MP's beckoning

What should I level next? I'm currently lv88 with 40vit, 20end, 10str, 50skl, 10blt and 8arc. I use BoM, Burial Blade and once I get them the Saif, Rakuyo and perhaps the Bowblade.

"This grave stands in memory of a hunter I once knew. Though enchanted by the dream, she remain strong, and eventually saw the light of dawn. …I pray you have found meaning, and comfort, in the waking world."

What does this MEAN because I thought the grave was Maria's which would mean the dream was around when Maria was alive unless that was symbolic and either way it doesn't sound like she's talking about the horrible experiments followed by suicide Maria when she says she remained strong.

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Fuck bros, I think I'm in love with this orphan fight. Really, really struggled with it on NG, but I just had an incredibly fun duel with him on NG+ dodging hits, chipping away, getting flattened by his placenta club and finding space to heal, dodging his second form sonic speed attacks, throwing in the occasional visceral attack. Jesus christ.

>>123756269
>you're going back in time
Is this stated anywhere in the game? I've seen enough people saying it and I feel like I missed something, having played through the dlc more or less blind

>>123756080
Considering she flash steps like heck during the fight, probably.

>>123756365

Theres a coffin behind Maria with the white flowers on it too.
>Gehrman put the flowers on her coffin during the funeral

>fighting djura
>nigga jumped off and killed himself

wtf. how do I get his items now?

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>>123756269
>MLGS
>Secret weapon

In DS1 you get it for cutting off the tail of Seathe, it's no more a secret weapon than the Drake Sword

In DS2 you get it for trading in a boss soul, it's no more a secret weapon than any other boss soul weapon

In DeS, you got it from a fucking nest. Super secret indeed.

>Ludwig isn't important
>But the "missing link" to the discovery of the Great Ones (That we still no nothing about because that's the point) IS SUPER IMPORTANT GUYS

Knowing Kos gave birth to lanky kong and that people would flip shit because the healing church was connected to the Great Ones (Which they never found out anyway so it's a moot fucking point) is just about as important as my fucking balls. Ludwig still beats the shit out of Maria AKA shitty False King in every department.

Anyone feel like giving a guy help with Orphan of Kos on NG? I'm BL 80

>>123756521
Reload and it'll be by his mingun.

>>123756503

You're not going back through time, he's just a moron.

You're entering a dreamworld, a nightmare realm based on the sins of the Old Hunters and the curse that cursed them and 'their children too' (children in a metaphorical sense meaning those that followed them in the path of the Hunter).

>>123756319
Uncanny Parsite - radial radial triangle. Shoot for that sweet 27.2% arc triangle.

>>123756269
Maria felt too relevant to me, like she was forced relevancy, almost mary sue tier.
Everyone loves her and she gets to retain her dignity and appearance, Maria dindu nuffin, it's just too much.

>>123756551
Slap a password on and I'll ring at the lamp.

>>123756563
just did, nothing there.

I stopped the game at the one reborn and didn't touch it since.
How much more comes after it?

>>123756519
There is also a lone grave near the lighthouse in Hamlet with lumenflower on it. Wonder who is buried there. Maybe Maria brought the flower there.

>>123756603
Great, thanks

>>123756503
It's thematic.

Ludwig is one of the church hunters, someone that trained them, and helped excavate more chalice dungeons for the church.

Laurence predates him, coming from the days of Byrgenwerth. His knowledge helps create the church. Likely a part of the group that drilled the holes into the heads of the fishermen.

Maria is one of Gehrman's first students, and Gehrman was there when Laurence was still alive and beckoned the Moon Presence.

Then you find the village where Kos washed up dead and the Orphan started the curse because of what Byrgenwerth did.

>>123756585
Nigga shut up. You're way too literal. It's thematic, not timey wimey bullshit. How the fuck can you talk metaphors when you can't even understand one retard.

>>123756628

Thats because she's not meant to be an evil figure, she's a tragic figure like Gehrman. They represent the Hunters that wanted to protect people.

And 'forced relevancy'? she's one fucking boss that gave us some answers on the mystery of the doll and the old hunters bone. She's not the centrepoint of the DLC.

>>123756660
Nothing? His badge wasn't there?

>>123756690

You literally said 'you're going back in time'. Its not my fault you made a poor choice of words dumbass.

I've seen too many people say its literally time travel and I dont want you confusing some poor retard with your shit.

>>123756628
No shit. She was Bloodborne's Maiden Astraea.

The only person in outside of the Hunter's Nightmare that cares about her is Gehrman. Inside the nightmare she governs the place that the Church used to use to experiment on people filled with meatbags that no one cares about because they're failures.

>>123756747
Stop being dumb then nigga. Jesus. No wonder you're an insufferable cunt jumping folks like a bitch ass throat slinging shit snatched rug steamer.

>>123756731
exited the game and went back and got it.

>>123756652
Nvm m8, just did it by myself.

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>>123756806
>Say going back in time
>IT WAS JUST A METAPHOR I DIDN'T MEAN IT

Kill yourself with a rusty fucking knife nigger

HAHA JUST A METAPHOR DUDE OBVIOUSLY I MEANT SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT

We're going through a fucking dream, the fact that you used "Time" at all when describing it just proves how fucking inept you are. He isn't in the wrong at all, cumguzzling faggot.

Uncanny for kosm [\spoiler] parasite ye?

>>123756684
One last area

>>123756887
Ye.
>>123756603

>>123756628
>Forced relevancy

You could cut her out of the story and the only thing that would need to be explained is who gehrman is grieving over.

It's useful that she DOES exist in the dlc but she doesn't particularly have to.

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So why there's cainhurst nobles living outside of cainhurst? Like Maria or Arianna?
Did their ancestors flee to the city when executioners rolled in?

Hey, Is Church Picks tricked mode piercing damage? You do sweeping attacks, but since it has that spike in top of it the damage is piercing?

Also, I have 15% physical radial gem in it. I just got it to +10, is it better idea to put skill scaling gem in that slot to make it scale A with skill, instead of B? I have 25 skill if that matters.

>>123756943
Thanks, didnt see that post

>>123756437
Please help. I plead you, gaming gods.

I have a skill, quality and bloodtinge character and thinking of making a new one to tackle the DLC. The obvious choices are an arcane build or a STR build. Can someone sell me on either? Which one is more fun, or effective? What are the best weapons for each (DLC included) ?

>>123757020
>5 skill weapons and one skill/bloodtinge weapon
>Hard capped skill, base level bloodtinge
You tell me

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Post/rate yer Hunters boys

Also anyone looking for help on a DLC boss? BL; 100 here.

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>get invaded by deerhat
>get all his items
>go talk to him and he talks mad shit
>go back through the caves
>he invades again
cheeky cunt

>>123757126
Arcane is only good for super mega endgame, and thats for cheesing people in PvP
Go strength, get pizza cutter, shitpost with the rest of us

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>>123756690
>Maria is one of Gehram's first students

Except that's where her relevancy ends, she has absolutely nothing to do with Kos and what happened after. She isn't a "missing link" like someone else stated. It's also painfully obvious that they poured all their love into Ms.Waifubait 1.0 and completely skimped out on stuff that should have been used for Laurence so we just got what was essentially the Asylum Demon ---> Demon Firesage tier reuse of assets, which is why I hate her with a burning passion.

But yeah, at least we will get some porn of a generic pale girl in Victorian clothing.

Fuck you Gehrman I hope you rot.

>>123757156
>pizza cutter
AWAY, AWAY

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>>123757156
Comfy.

>>123757278
>best STR weapon
>away
u wot fám

>>123757164
>invaded by deerhat outside his door
>holy shit im dying
>respawn at lamp
>ok lets go
>die again
>FUCK
>ok one more
>run past him
>go down to his door
>open it with the key
>slap him with my saif
>he dies in one hit
>go outside
>invader dead and item dropped on the floor


I dont know what I expected but im thankful for it.

>>123756080
Possibly, but the fact that it's the exact bone Gehrman is missing means it's probably his.

>>123757224
Holy fuck do you have Beasts Embrace on? What is that thing?

I've got to Brandon, but where's the key to open all the other locked doors in the jail after Ludwig?

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>>123757156
my bucket bretheren

>>123757296
Overused as fuck, I need to be an edgy contrarion and cuddle my Beast Cutter and say its ok.

Can someone lend me a hand with Cleric Beast 2: Fire Boogaloo

I'm BL80 on NG

>>123757349
Some room in the Research hall. I barely remember where it is whenever I look for it. I use a body with an item on it as a marker when I do find it, though.

>>123757402
>boom hammer is shit
This pleases my inner special snowflake

>>123757262
>Except that's where her relevancy ends, she has absolutely nothing to do with Kos and what happened after.

Are you fucking high? She's the one who gave birth to the Great one used to summon the Moon Presence.

Is it me or is the Whirligig dog shit in pvp?

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Rate my autism

>>123757461
Its you
it's fucking fun in PvP

>>123757327
>Gehrman is missing a bone
What?

Of course is OHB Marias bone. It looks the same and the grave you get it from, in the Old Abandoned Workshop, is Marias grave as Doll-chan is praying to it all the time in the dream.

>>123757461
L2 stunlocks the living shit from players.
All DLC weapons aside from boom hammer are amazing in pvp.

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Would ludwig be easier with just Valtr or with valtr and the Madaras twin?

>>123757527
He's missing a leg.

>>123757503
>Attack Arcane Radial

I didn't even know those existed. Where did you get that?

Nice Kos

>>123756883
And dreams in bloodborne are concurrent realities existing in their own space shared with others.

You're like those faggots that get mad at scientists for saying looking at stars is like going back in time.

>>123757536
>>123757507
Then how the hell do you use it effectively? You get parried all the fucking time.

>>123757152
The thing is I'm not sure if I should level blooding or arcane. Or perhaps raise end to 25.

>>123757527
You didn't notice Gerhman's pegleg, which is also his blunderbuss?

>>123757556
Valtr is good enough

>>123757591

Bone ash hunter at Isz : cb7jig9p

>>123757625
stop being a predictable shitter

>>123756438
She is talking about your character, the dialogue is in the vanilla game when you pick the sunrise ending

>>123757503

What's your damage like?

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>>123757503
>tfw still can't find a single arc atk up % + flat arc
Still seems to do at least the same damage as pure scaling gems.

So the Hunter's Nightmare is Gerhman's nightmare, right? The Doll's dialogue post-dlc pretty much confirms it.

>>123757705
Thanks

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Anyone else wish Gilbert in central yharnem had a backstory? He seems like a bro and it sucks he ends up turning into a beast

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>>123757503
>only 5 extra arc AR
Fuck I wanted to farm that gem, no point if it gets such shit returns

>>123757874
He pretty much gives you it - sick guy who moved to yarnham to cure his disease.

>>123757625
Well dont try to stunlock people too much, its predictable as hell
try making effectively use of it's moveset, mostly the transformation attack, running R2 is also crazy good.

>>123757938
The hunter came to old yharnem for a cure for an illness aswell

Why does/did the orphan of kos exist if the great ones children are stillborn.

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>>123757938
>blood cured his illness
>he was in pain from beast transformation while not even understanding it

>host rushes the boss fog after losing both his co-operators

So lame.

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>could use 6cb7ieyy as password for things
>it's complicated but easy to remember
>it's branded into my mind like the hunter rune

>>123758183

whats on that dungeon?

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>>123757156
>mfw was turtling since des
>mfw loch shield + church pick

>>123758183
>The /bbg/ covenant

>>123758296
Loch shield is mostly against arcane attacks though

Whats with laurence and spamming attacks. I was trying to see what you could bait him into doing and he literally chased me from one end of the room to the other just doing left swipe right swipe left swipe right swipe with no break at all. I've never seen a boss spam like that with no break or opening in this game.

Ludwig NG+ tips?

I'm using Valtyr but still getting my shit slapped.

>>123758232
/bbg/s pvp dungeon.

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>>123758382
It is as good against physical weapons as wooden shield.
Which means rakuyo and other fast spammy shit bounces off it.

I'm level 95, 40BLT, 25SKL, should I go 16STR and hit level 102 for the Bloodletter?

>>123757343
This was taken pre-dlc, not sure what you mean.

>>123758530
He's saying your character is ugly.

Anyone wanna help out with Rom? Pw: bbg
Can help back with something else

>>123758183
>Glyphs I no longer have to look up
pwmf22gu 27.2% radials
5pwjuscd 27.2% triangles
3nawt3ys CRF Isz with blood rock and 4 easy ritual blood (5) to get to
huy83p9r CRF Isz chunk farm
They really are like caryll runes branded on the inside of our minds. They even grant us power THROUGH GEMS

>>123758569
Rude, she's a looker.

>>123758673
Any sort of radials/triangles?

Parasite of Kos increases the damage of bare hands right?

so is there any upside to using the pistol over the blunderbuss? seems easier to stagger with blunderbuss and thats really all I ever use the weapon for.

>>123758745
The radials are almost exclusively tempering, the triangles you get bolt/fire/arcane/beasthunter/kinhunter sometimes, just not often enough.

>>123758821

What, without the Milkweed rune? I doubt it.

>>123758827
You can parry from further away, it doesn't clip through your attire if you're twohanding a weapon.

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>>123758827
Pistol has longer range which is better for parrying heals.
But blunder is way better for pulling a midrange parry thanks to spread.

>>123758908
I think I saw a webm of it doing more damage with the parasite equipped but without the milkweed. Problem is I can't find it if someone has it please post it.

>>123758821
>>123758908
It does. See:
>>123748225

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>doing SRRC coop
>keep getting summoned to hintertombs
>finally get summoned to a C/R/F ihyll
>die like a shitter to basic mobs

Anyone have good RGB values for light blonde hair like Doll/Maria

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>all those laggy rakuyo japs near the first hamlet bonfire

>>123759025
Oh yes. I can finally make a Seiya build complete with the his supermove (thanks to ACB)

>bl18
>Got my Whirligig
Oh I cant wait... Hehe...

>>123758673

5pwjuscd 27.2% triangles. These from boss?

What's your best AR on your Kos Parasite and what gems did you use? I'm using 2 +18 droplets from mensis and one flat boosting arcane, the 19 rank cold gem I have doesn't seem to boost the AR by alot and I have 40 ARC

>>123759197
Yeah, the watchers. It's a Cursed + Rotted + Fetid Isz.

Since when the fuck can Ludwig track on that massive powered slam with his sword? How's that fair if it covers such a massive area?

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>>123759227
See >>123757894 and >>123757503 and >>123757821

You need to go chalice diving to get the fun out of this thing.

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>find all npcs to rescue
>kill the nice guy
>"I.... only wanted... to be... your friend..."

>>123757207
Any other DLC STR weapons any good?

>Going str/blt
>Get Gatling Gun
>Get to Ludwig
>Realize that Gat doesn't work so well
>Going evenly between STR and BLT up until that point means that, despite being at level 60, neither of them are good enough to deal damage to really whittle away at his health
>Even with the floundering corpse for easy farming so I'm always at max, I can't
>Can't get to Bloodletter without beating Ludwig in the first place

What do?

>>123758514
Anyone?
I don't like the idea of going beyond level 98 but maybe it's worth it.

>>123759384

Get gud.

It doesn't matter how little damage you're doing if you're dodging his attacks.

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>>123759369
He would have betrayed you, sooner or later. You didn't give him the chance. You're better off playing it safe anon.

>>123759375
Amygdalan Arm and Beast Cutter are fun.

>>123759384
Summon?

Are you cold?

>>123759361
Alright, where can I find % arcane up? I know where to get cold abysalls and I've been farming Keeper NPCs but all they drop are fire gems

>>123757002

Anyone?

>>123759361
Damn, the twinking is through the roof.
I hope DaS3 will be a good game.

xth for bloodborne having the best souls DLC of all time

>>123756992

Distant relations and family trees. Chances are Arianna's ancestors were cousins of cousins of cousins.

But for Maria, she was alive before the executioners rolled in. Her gear was made for her in Cainhurst so she was an active part of the Cainhurst nobility before she left to join the Hunters.

>>123759557
I think it does thrust damage since it seems to be hitting massively on counters and can gib brainsuckers. For your AR, you can preview the gems and it will show which is better.

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>>123759594
Twinking is not going anywhere in any souls game my friend.
Better find another franchise to follow.

So do we know what drops Vermins? Nightmare hunters? I think I got a couple from them.

Ah, Kos...

>>123759539
cb7jig9p from the Bone ash hunter near the lantern for 23.1% arcane radials. Actually just look at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true

It will tell you what you need to know.

>>123759594
With every game invaders get the shaft. Why do you think micolash-anons don't invade outside of mensis? Pro tip: it's not because of lore reasons. It's that unless you have an overgeared twink you will be destroyed by a host and a cooperator who know what they are doing. So we hide behind enemies, we bring chalice gemmed weapons, we play like the fucking worst twinking scum because it's almost necessary to ever win. Fun invasions rarely happen outside of the Nightmares.

>>123759656
I still remember the time when DaS was new and I went through the game at SL 30 to make a Lightning Katana +5 and two shot people in the Depth.

Good times.

>>123759676
Ludwig drops one too

Does the League rune work only when you're the one being summoned for coop, or does it work whenever you coop with someone?

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What are the best types of gems for bowblade if I want to minmax the fuck out of it?

Also fashion because this is literally my first post here

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I wonder how Gehrman was even able to educate Maria with such a raging boner.
Guy probably spilled spaghetti constantly.

>>123759854
Oh, then I only got one from the NIghtmare hunters.
Can I farm them, do they drop Vermins consistently?

>>123759594
>people still think invasions are supposed to be symmetrical
Invaders get better gear and can use mobs for support
Hosts get allies (whom often have better gear as well) and outnumber the lone invader
Its not like getting invaded isn't easily avoidable anyway
Hell, in most areas you'll end up killing the bell maiden before you even get an invader

>>123759947
>and this is how you swing the bat, here, let me show you
>what bat? There's no bat here

I forgot: the npc you find after having dropped all the way down in healing church workshop, does he give anything? I talked to him just now after killing vicar amelia and he just laughs.

>>123759947
Perhaps they were lovers. He built a replica sex doll of her ffs

>Played BB for so long
>Tried DaS2 again

Oh god it's so bad.

I hope DaS3 will be good.

>>123759947
It's sort of hilarious and sad at the same time when lonely nerds think that no man is able to cooperate with a woman without having a diamond hard-on 24/7, just because they themselves can't due to being in desperate need

>>123760084

No, they have to have been tragically torn apart before either of them could reveal their feelings for the other, resulting in Gehrmans obsession with her.

I like my love stories depressing and brutal

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>>123760105
You just don't understand anon, DS2 is a deep game with high skill ceiling.

I wonder if the original purpose of beckoning a great one was to bring Maria back to life. Gherman builds her a fake body and everything, but it turns out the Moon Presence can only do it via dream world and misinterpreted his request anyway.

>>123760126
Yes, men need pussy, more news at 11.

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>>123760126
We're talking about a guy who built a full size doll replica of a girl he liked and whose entire workshop is filled with books about picking up fair maidens.

>>123760126
The guy made a lifesize doll of her, he is a desperate lonely nerd

>>123760267
I bet he practices pick up lines with the Doll when you're not around.

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>This transcription of the Great Ones' inhuman voices ripples like a watery reflection.

So the blip blops and slip slops are the Old Ones speaking to proto-emissaries?

>>123760173
The doll's dialogue indicates she was at least partially linked to maria, so maybe he was close
Maybe if he had given her the hair ornament instead of you, some stranger, it would have worked

So what's the lore behind Hemwick Charnel Lane?

Why are there only women? What did they do there? What was the purpose behind this little shithole?

>>123760173
Maybe. I mean it would explain why he resents the doll even though she's his only companion. After seeing the ending cutscenes im still rolling with the idea that the host of the hunter's dream is the moon presence' "surrogate" by the way it hugs you and turns you into the new gehrman if you dont have the umbilical cords. Idk how true that is though, might just be a hopeful theory.

Why is Ludwigs jump so FUCKING STUPID!?

How is that an attack that can be consistently avoided?! Literally all you can do is spam roll and pray. So fucking tilt now.

>>123760267
>>123760289
Yes, only the pussy matters always

>>123760409
For the short jump, just roll when he lands
For the extended jump, turn around and start sprinting

>>123760031
The invader in the webm was almost invincible against all opponents and was able to oneshot them while having mobs as allies.
That is not good balance.

When will the DLC guide come out?
I want the Bloodletter but I don't want to kill npcs if I can avoid it.

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>>123760493
Good, souls games are not meant to be balanced.

>>123760392

It seems to have been a glorified cemetery and the women were widows. At least thats what I got from it.

>>123760489
Yeah, it's not that I don't know, I'm just tilting really hard and venting like a shitter.

I'm underleveld too and refuse to use any bloodchunks before I get mah MLG, so I'm not exactly making it easy for myself.

>>123760493
In my experience when invading, at least one summon has gear equal to or better than my own
Kin mode does seem a bit unbalanced though, and will likely be nerfed down the road

>>123760512
>>123760512

no mercy for infected ones
and you must accept execution

>>123760537
So there was nothing wrong with Soul Memery after all..

>>123760602
>Kin mode does seem a bit unbalanced though
Only against retard coopers.
If we're nerfing kin mode, lets also nerf bloodletter's r2, rakuyo's spin2win, mlgs l2 and amygdala's arm charged r2. Which ain't happening because BB is very careful with nerfs.

So far I have 152 stamina on mt Str/Blt build and it's so damn good. Being relentless really pay off.

>>123760662
>BB is very careful with nerfs
I hope you're right, because fromsoft has a history of nerfing fun shit into oblivion

>>123760662
>bb is very careful with nerfs

>cannon is now useless for pve
>can still oneshot people which was the problem in the first place
Wew

>>123760794
DS2 has a history of nerfs, not fromsoft.
The only retarded DS1 nerf was to burger king axe.

>>123760621
Of all the bad things DaS2 brought to the table, Soul Memory and limited enemy spawns were the ones I hated the most.

I really didn't like DaS2.

>>123760602
>>123760493
Twinks are limited by their level so they have at most 30 VIT which gets eaten away by 30% vs the host only. Now if you include another 2 players, the only real advantages you can have are +10 weapons with gems and hunter tools.

Ayymode's L2 is really strong for ganks but people will catch on like they did with WoG

Bowblade is one of the best DLC weapons and if you don't agree you just don't have the build for it yet

>>123760409
>pray
Yep

Same as gascans jump

>>123760537
Is this a skill build or blt ?

>>123760826
I think they overdid it a bit with the crystal ring shield
I understand it was bugged, but they should have made it scale with int
They also slowed down all greatswords a shitload, when they should have just reduced their stagger time until they could no longer infinitely stunlock

>>123760853
What is the build for it ? Skl or blt ?

>>123760853
Do you miss on anything if you murder Simon as early as yo ucan?

>>123760929
Nope. The weapon drops when he dies, and the key he would give you is near the lighthouse lamp.

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>>123760801
They don't give a shit about pvp you fucking nerds.
They nerfed it because 4 shots were too powerful for pve. They fixed arcane rifle because it allowed to stomp pve by doing thousands of damage at range. Parasite's L2 is unable to kill even a nightmare hunter with one shot and opens you up to attacks of trash mobs as well who can finish you off before you finish the casting animation if you're not careful.
>>123760872
Pure BLT.

>>123760920
Equal skill and blt, i go 40/40
>>123760929
Nope

No love for the iron lump with holes?

>>123760984
Ok, i'm currently doing a build for it, and I thought abou going 40/20 skl/blt and stop at 80, with 40 in vit. Is the blt worth it ? Should i go 38 (I wanna stop at 98)

>>123760920
From what I understand normal mode scales with SKL and bowmode scales with BLT, so SKL is worthless because you'll never use the normal mode over your second weapon anyway.
>>123760984
>40/40
Yeah, no.

>>123761030
I like it, but the stamina consumption is annoying.

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>>123760984
>Equal skill and blt, i go 40/40
Bowblade has S/S scaling and at 40/40 you won't achieve the truly best damage output with both modes.
It's either 15SKL/50BLT or straight 50/50 if you aren't interested in retarded BL98 "meta".

>>123761056
You can't think of a reason as to why you might want a blade over a bow> You just think bow supercedes blade every single time purely because it's a tricked mode and for some reason you never use untricked? Even if that wasn't retarded, the two modes of the Bowblade in particular are incredibly different and the stats reflect that. Your post is laughable in a number of ways

>Reliably slaughter entire groups of enemies no problem

>It's the one lonely random fuck mook that gets me

Christ this has been my problem since Demon's Souls

>have a fuckton of trouble with Ludwig
>spend days trying to beat him
>completely wreck him this morning
>beat living failures 1st try
>beat Maria 1st try
>beat Orphan of Kos on 2nd try
>all on NG+

Holy fucking shit.

Is the Whirligig L2 attack counted as Thrust? thinking of throwing on my Blunt gems but that L2 is a bucket of fun too.

>>123761051
And how do you expect to deal damage with 20 BLT, if I may ask?
Right now a BLT build should go 14STR for the Bloodletter, base or 25SKL for the Chikage's and the Bowblade's normal mode and 40SKL at level 98.

>>123761108
Seeing as they both softcap at 40, why are you stopping at 50? Surely the 'truly best damage' would be 99/99?

I will say that having the bowblade just for one mode strikes me as retarded when the two modes compliment each other so well, but if I had to choose one, it would definitely be blade mode

>>123761238
>both softcap at 40
WHAT?
Softcap is 50.

>>123761186
>>123761184
High quality blogs guys, keep it up.
Where do I subscribe?

>>123761229
All right time to replay my edgy bloodcrow then

>>123761186
You got good anon. You got good

>>123761051
If the build is specifically for bowblade go equal stat in BT and skill, each mode scales off a completely different stat

>>123760598
He screams twice on the big jump.
As soon as you hear 2nd scream, roll.
Works everytime for me

>>123761273
I can smell how butthurt you are.

>>123761238
>>123761270
First caps for dmg stats are 25, then 50

>>123761184
>random pale white trash mob in chalice dungeon
>threaded cane
>r1 at him
>swings past him, does no damage even though cane connects visually
>he attacks past me
>i'm actually behind him at this point
>hits me and kills me with counter damage
Fuck those shitheads in the chalice dungeons. They make the most annoying sounds too.

>>123761273
Donate to my patreon

>>123761312
>Smelling
How about a taste ;^)

>>123761321
25 is meaningless for weapons with S scaling and low-ish base damage.

>>123761176
>You can't think of a reason as to why you might want a blade over a bow
That's not what I said at all, idiot, I said that you wouldn't want shitty Bowblade normal mode over another weapon you can use anyway. At that point (if you level SKL) it will always be better to use a pure SKL weapon over it.

>>123761270
Even so, why not take both to 99 if your philosophy is to go for 'true' best damage? I'm aiming to keep within reasonable level range

>>123761273

How mad are you right now anon.

Looking to make a strength build focusing on powder kegger weapons
What's the most badass set I can wear with no shirt?

>>123761370
If I wanted to taste salty vagina I would have ordered fish.

>>123761404
You're hitting me with the "You mad? ;)"
Is this 2007

>>123761293
>>123761229
I meant 40BLT, not SKL.

>>123761392
>why not take both to 99
Because it gives a hilariously low damage increase compared to 50, at expense of 50-100 more levels, retard.
50 is a sweetspot for S scaling weapons, 40 is like going for 40 FAI in DS1, you won't achieve optimal damage output per level investment.

>>123761416
yama pants and old hunters wraps my nigga, bucket aswell if you really want to /fa/

>>123761294

I was really starting to doubt myself and thought I would never beat Ludwig, I guess I just woke up in the zone or something today.

>>123761443

Damn you're mad.

>>123761416
Steake driver plus Gatling gun.

>>123761373
No, blade made is excellent and pisses all over bow mode when used individually, but really they should be used together. Bow by itself seems completely redundant.

Don't kid yourself into thinking you are 'suing' Bowblade if you are just using one form, especially bow form, why would you?

I'm in a bit of a bind fellas. I recently made a str/skill build and I now I want to try my hand at messing around with arcane and shooting moon beams. However from what I gather going Str/arc with 50/25 split is superior than the inverse. I wanted to have arc as my main stat to optimize ayy mode and the hunter tools. am I better off creating a pure arc character and then making a hybrid or would 25 str and 50 arc still be fine?

>>123761416
Sorry but no hunter looks badass shirtless.
The malnutrition in Yharnam means everyone is skin and bones.

>>123761030

Can't parry, right? Seems kind of useless.

>>123761416
STR/BLT.
With STR scaling gems you can completely ignore SKL scaling on most weapons.
Use cannon, minigun, steak driver, boom hammer and whirlgig.

>>123761186
>>123761184
>>123761273
>>123761324
>>123761404
>>123761443
>>123761312
>>123761370
>>123761435
AWAY, AWAY!

So DSP really gave up before Ludwig? Actually, gave up? He's not going to try again? I enoy watching that useless fuck blame everything except himself

>>123761475
If I was mad, would I be replying to all of your posts about how not-mad I am?
Didn't think so pussyfart

>>123761087
ye and no fuckin green blossom alternative in bb
Also what right weapon makes the best synegy with the fist?

>>123761464
well the option is always there to take it further, given as im sticking to 100, I wont though. You say this like I don't know 50>40, obviously sacrifices have to be made when making a build though

If I wanted to use Saif and Cutter without going arcane, is going 25/25 enough without proper gems alright or do I need to go like 50/50 if I wanted to manage NG+ or even the endgame with shit gems/gemless?

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>>123761582

Nice comeback.

>>123761512
>why would you use a unique weapon that when charged deals the highest damage with bullets?
Gee, I wonder.
The only reason why I managed to kill the giants that drop the Rakuyo is thanks to that.

>>123761562
>still thinking DSP is serious
You're retarded, no seriously.
He acts like that to get viewers who all laugh at his "mistakes", all while drumming up free advertising from fucks like you.

>>123761561

Smells like you stranger.

>>123761683
>advertising
>what is ADB plus?

>>123761628
I was only pretending

>>123761608
Your sacrifices are shit. If you want a bow build on less than BL100 you stick to BLT scaling and compensate lack of melee option with second slot weapon, not spread stats across two different stats while not achieving full mastery even in one.
And given that you didn't knew that 50 is a real softcap i doubt you understand how to optimize a build at all.

>>123761683
It's fun to go to see a movie even if an alien isn't reaaally getting blown out of an airlock irl anon.

Besides, I only ever watch the compilation vids people stitch together at the end of it.

>>123761683

>still thinking its an act

Anon we've gone far past the limit of an act with DSP. If this was an act he would have dropped it when he saw how hard his numbers have fallen.

>>123760392
Looks like it was meant to be a rural district of the town that also took care of the massive amounts of dead bodies that would pile up during hunts. The women look like housewives that stayed home while their husbands went to town and got fucked by the beast scourge. Then they themselves got fucked by the beast scourge and a couple of Pthumerian cunts.

>>123761763
No, stop.
He cant be real
I thought I had this world figured out...

>>123761752
This is a BOWBLADE build, the point of it is to use the BOWBLADE

You can't see the forest for the trees, ie. your rigid autism

>>123761683
People like you most likely think that ParkourDude91 is merely pretending as well.

>>123761742
He still gets views, which are beneficial for his channel even without ads.
Its true though, its an act. Nobody is that oblivious, and his gimmick works well.

>>123761683
>>123761756
>>123761763
>>123761808
>that computer episode
>an act

>>123760830
>>123760830
Soul memory almost singlehandedly ruined that game it's incredible they got that concept through.

>playing through with a friend
>get invaded
>he lags and walks off a cliff
>had tons of souls
>suddenly my soul memory is 50k above my friend and we cant summon each other anymore despite being the same level

WHY DID THEY THINK THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA

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>>123761526
That's a pretty hot opinion you got there

>>123761752
>>123761752
>If you want a bow build on less than BL100 you stick to BLT scaling and compensate lack of melee option with second slot weapon

who the fuck is this cancer? So you use just only trick mode Bow and what, only trick mode Chikage or only trick mode Bloodletter?

You are the reason people say BB has no build variety you autistic fuck

>>123761824
You still has 400 AR on base stats in blade mode with 27.2% you stupid fuck, which is enough to ward off enemies getting too close.

>>123761586
No idea. I just like how it looks with my weapons when I don't have the gatling gun out. Maybe a slow weapon so you can get a quick hit in that stuns them.

>>123761752
There's a very good reason to go 25 SKL on a level 98 BLT build though. The visceral bonus helps with lots of stuff in the game.

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>>123761880
>Friend is a shitter who won't play unless we play together
>do a coop playthrough
>he gets invaded in belltower before I can get summoned
>"Hahaha! He just jumped off a cliff! Holy fuck I got like a million souls from it!"
Worst game, worst mechanic.

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>Mercy for the poor, wizened child
>wizened = dry and wrinkled often as a result of aging or of failing vitality
Damn, with his Mother dead, this fucker came out uglier than he normally should have been.

>>123761898
And you are the stupid cattle that i slaughter during my invasions because you either do literally no damage in both modes or have virtually no vitality.
If you want hybrid builds, go over BL100.

>>123761904
But the difference between 40 and 50 BLT is incredibly significant and you should base a build around it, completely sacrificing half the weapon roster? You're an idiot

>>123761824
>>123761898
He's right, you stupid fuckers, learn how to build.

>>123761994
>But the difference between 40 and 50 BLT is incredibly significant
Yes, because it will be your primary damage source for the wast majority of your gameplay.
Blade won't.

>>123761971
>And you are the stupid cattle that i slaughter during my invasions

hahahahaha this DLC has brought forth pasta galore

>>123761851
He doesn't get views with ADB.

>>123761962
I want to boot up my console just to hear the npc's dialogue again.

>>123761997
No he isn't he's literally saying there is no way to use Bowblade beneath level 100 because you can't hit softcaps. He is talking about min-maxing, not making builds. Builds take stuff like weapon variety or being built around a single weapon use into consideration. He is on a single minded pursuit for most damage. That's a build of a sort, but just one kind of build