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YOROKOBE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsMkVPWzviI

Previous: >>123709970

>[Fate/GUDAGUDA Honnouji event]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/quest_event_20151125.php
November 25 19:00 to ??? (December 11 13:59) JST
- Nobunaga is a free 4* event servant
- Ascension items are skulls from the shop (Check stock!)
- Milestone ladder awards extra Nubunaga copies: http://pastebin.com/vx4ydHd4
- Use promo servants (see link) to gain more points

- The first Nobu copy you get is temporary, at 100k points it BECOMES PERMAMENT and keeps the exp you gave her
- Copies after that are for NP upgrade

>Farming guide
- 10 AP until you get all you want from that, basically skull and 5* CE
- Then 20 AP until you get skull, 5* CE and all ascensions mats you want
- Then 30 AP if you don't have medusa ce or/and need bowls (gives a mix of bowls and spiders)
- Or 40 AP if you have medusa ce
- 30 AP on average gives 2k hp, 40 AP on average gives around 3k hp

>[Honnouji limited event gatcha]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/summon.php#limited
- Rate up in the Event gatcha for:
- 5* Okita souji (will be gone after event)
- 4* Emiya
- 3* Medusa, Lancer cu and Mephistopheles
- 5* Gudaguda poster girl
- 4* Launch order!
- 3* Fate gudaguda order


>News and Reminders
- Latest changes
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php
- Comptiq's interview with Higashide and Sakurai (about London)
http://pastebin.com/ipaXkpd2
- Regular Maintenance: Every Wed from 14:00 to 16:00 JST


>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>Data Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WI4dKGcwWjn5XpTgfLsK8c0cipRzrWbVpiLGeVr55Ks/htmlview?sle=true#
Toaster version:
http://pastebin.com/jtxyf37T

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/
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Every thread until Christmas
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xth for unrivaled
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>>123745928
Xth for where the fuck is clown anon with his max ascended and max foused meph.
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xth for Nobu a best!
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Lawful Good master and Chaotic Evil clown!
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Every thread until Astolfo
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Xth for Euryale the cutest sister!
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Tuberculosis
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Lv 60 Waver with Gudao equipped for anyone in need of a Caster friend. I accept all requests.
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So do you need your own Medusa for 40 ap to be better or is it calculated with a support?
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>>123746159
>shit quality
baka desu senpai
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>Tamamo finishes at 100% HP at the end of the 40AP every time

I can bring any motherfucker I want with me, she solo's the shit anyways.
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>>123746272
Calced with support
With your own medusa + support, you get on average 4-5 more per run which is a pretty significant advantage
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Every thread until Astolfo
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All I want for Christmas is Ozzy!
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>>123746140
>>123746441
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Jesus Lancelot is useless against this Mata Hari
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>>123746582
CHARMED
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>>123746498
If we believe, then the King will surely answer!
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How much do you want to bet DW nerfs this 40AP before the end of tomorrow
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>>123746582
REMOVE LANCELOT
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>>123746581
There's a second Astolfo guy that shows up sometimes.
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>>123746694
Doubt it. In their minds we were given caster liz, so we should be able to deal with this shit on our own. Not their problem
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Hope that next thread's image is about a fully debuffed and charmed team fighting Mata Hari
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>>123746694
It is pretty easy, also medea lily work wonder in this quest
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>>123746694
>nerf

why? because retards can't go double nobu and emiya for free win?

quest is way easier than saber and as easy as berserker but just takes longer

the only real danger would be leaving mata hari alone so she can spam def debuffs and do way too much damage
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>>123746902
I'm personally not having trouble with it, but DW nerfed those easy as hell dailies so I put nothing past them.
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>>123746902
>tfw casko

I'm going to miss how easy this daily is for me when the Archer daily shows up and the best I have is a 40 Cu.
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Hard quest. Can't fall back on my emiya
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>>123746694
Anon, I can clear the new 40 ap with this trash team.
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>>123747016
GAY BULGE
A
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B
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G
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>>123746694
>wanting nerfs because you actually have to think to win the mission
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>>123745628
I knew that but
>using Benkei
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>>123747016
So what's the max damage card order here, B-NP-B?
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>>123747139
I want to breed with Illya.
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>>123747139
>Picking Tamamo or Waver is thinking
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Forgot to attach
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>>123746651
Yes, friend! We must channel our faith and praise to the great Ozzy!
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>>123747190
Dude she's like 1
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>>123746582
I wonder how long I can get away with Kintoki-smashing everything.
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>>123747275
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>>123747275

So she's a little old, does it really matters?
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>>123747202
>medusa CE

so far I've used level 60 Emiya, 50 Nobu and 50 Okita and all have been raped by the ghosts which is good because I just want Seiba and the Caster alive but that taunt really makes them go down fast
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>>123747316
>3 5*s
Sup Keripo
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>>123747197
Killing nobbu first before matahari is not thinking like post above, any servant with single damage np is enough to kill her if you dont have decent caster
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>need 720 bowls and 710 spiders to ascend my 3* and 4* servants that I actually use
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>>123747412
Waver's not mine, m8 and Kintoki's level 1 NP. He still hits like a fucking truck though.
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Hey did you guys know that Nobunaga seems to be dropping from the 1AP quest?
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This the only pages casko needs whoever wanted to know.

Got my skulls fuck this event fighting big beefy albeit low damage bosses with a weakened party is too much.
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>>123747174
np-b-b
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>>123747583
Did you know that shiki can kill servants?
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I want Okita to sit on my lap while I hug her tighly.
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>>123747583
Hey if that actually happens that'd be great because then I'd only need what... 800k?
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>160k points

well the NP5 seems to be impossible, I'll see how it goes before thinking about apples

if DW keeps being more f2p unfriendly I may need all 70 of them for christmas if Santa Nero is actually a thing
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>>123747660
>24
Fuck, even if I get all 20 pages its not enough.
Thanks anyways anon.
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>>123747706
Don't hug too tightly now. Squeeze her too hard and she'll start coughing up blood.
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>>123747707
Yeah, I'm not bothering with this event either. I'm fine with 1 Nobu.
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>Have 10k+ attack as Tamamo
>Do arts that has a 1.0 damage multiplier
>Against an enemy that has weakness
>Do around 6k damage
Is there a reason it works this way?
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These are my enticements, and they are sufficient to conquer all fear of rolls or scam.

Please, marry me!
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I heard... there were people... talking about me... in here?
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>>123747583
sounds retarded

wouldn't you be able to reset it until you get one each day using that thing in the pastebin
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>>123747740
I swear this calculation (in the image) and the calculation of the dude who did the gold currency needs to be in op.
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The anon who suggested the tooltip is broken and does not show 160% Okita working as such, was correct.

DW are hacks.

Max ascended event CE does work for support but it does not show in the tooltip. However, I got 1470 / 4900 in the daily from the drops, which is 390% and my tooltip only showed me 360%
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>>123747852
MOOOOOOOOOT
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I'm sitting at 265k at the moment, but I may have to wait a bit to do this 40 AP. My party is mostly underleveled and/or composed of riders, so I may need to wait for the lancer quest so I can cheese with Okita support. It'll suck that I'll have to move Nobu to the back though.
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>>123747918
cheat apk
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>>123747876
Why? It's wrong.
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>>123747893
Who?
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>>123747876
And heres part 2.
Anyone saved the flat thingy calculations that some anon did?
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>>123747952
What actually IS the cheat apk? Is it just an autoclicker kind of thing that does the game for you? I play on my iPhone, so I wouldn't know.
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>>123747918
>tfw waiting for the Lancer 40 AP to cheese with Okita
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>>123747952
I'm not risking that. I'm pretty happy with my account and I don't want to lose it.
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>>123747876
That`s old and outdated
Check the spreadsheet, honnoji point tab, it has the latest conjecture / calculations

Also, the calcs you posted were done by spreadsheet anon
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>>123710386
wew lad
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>>123748094
EVERY SINGLE TIME
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>>123747993
Basically your servants do more damage than they should and another version has the battle end after the first turn.
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>>123747556
>need 2000 spiders
>only at 189
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>>123747778
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I did not know Mari's NP could charm chicks as well.

>mfw more than half the time my lvl80 Waver is charmed
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Couldnt they have given Oda some sprites as maybe something a little older? I feel weird having this hell child next to me cackling as Oda from history
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>>123748147
Have you refilled?
Are you using medusa ce?
Are you even doing 40ap?
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what the fuck is this quest anymore, is DW trying to make us spend quartz on stupid shit?
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Can't wait to get to London where level 40 Mashu will be fighting up against a level 80+ Demon with over 200k health while Mashu beats on it with her wet noodle shield for 2k damage an attack.
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>tfw can't have servant voiced by Aoi Yuuki
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>>123748381
Better have that level 60-70 clown ready
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>>123748381
>this much salt just because they can't fit Caster Liz in their team
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>>123748253
>Have you refilled?
Yes, but seeing I need 2000 starting yesterday I've only refilled twice then.
>Are you using medusa ce?
Yes, hell I even have one of my own
>Are you even doing 40ap?
And yes.
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>>123748535
>Implying clown won't be charmed
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>>123748381
It's just tedious imo. It took me 8 minutes to beat it with this team. I might stick to 10 ap until the next one comes.
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>>123748549
Different anon, but I don't have a caster Liz.
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Thank you, Mata Hari, still burning you though.
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>>123748559
2 Weeks
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>>123748549
oh, i didnt think of caster liz, I was trying to do it with gilgamesh
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Aw fuck it i am just gonna install cheat apk I feel so dirty but this is boring as shit.
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Even if you struggle with this daily for whatever reason it's just one day out of two weeks, you should still be fine unless you've literally done nothing before today
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>>123748568
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>>123748381
I think they realized that less people are buying quartz because they flooded us with apples during the halloween event (and people are probably getting bored, which they obviously don't realize) so they came up with this event that basically yells how greedy and uncaring they are for their players.
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>>123748586
I hear you. I'm doing exactly that with all my dudes equipped with the 3* CE. CLAY POTS HEAR I COME.
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>>123748717
the problem is that it's only getting harder, and our teams are super nerfed because of the bullshit we have to put on them
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>>123748732
>I think they realized that less people are buying quartz
>Game is literally in top 3 grossing apps again ever since the event started
More like they realize no matter how shit the game is or how long it takes them to release new content, just release some limited 5* waifu into the gacha and people will spend and spend
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>>123748803
cheat apk
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>>123748861
>Refunders and whales have wrecked this game.
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I have a 80 Tamamo account with somewhat leveled skills
I can power-grind her to 90 if people are interested in using her as carry for 40 AP. I can put a Gudao CE on her, too, just not a max ascended one, sorry.

Has something like 45 friend slots free
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>>123748559
Oh wait, slightly off it's supposed to be 2,200. Fuck me.

>>123748637
The quests would only get harder and harder though, I don't think I would be able to farm anything come Caster one. Hell, I have no idea how I would farm tomorrow seeing I have no Assassins.
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Who here thinks that they may actually eventually give us a way to increase NP levels without having to roll a servant?
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>>123748956
It was ruined the moment they released it as a mobage instead of a proper multiplayer.
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>>123748669
You're doing the right thing man. Your time is better spent on something else.
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>>123748861
Time limited saberface, the doom of f2p.
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im having fun
>>123748984
sure
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>>123749017
The quartz shop has been sitting in the game since launch and had literally nothing done with it, so maybe there.

Then again this is DW so they could just be massive autists and fucking forgot about it
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>>123749050
>killing the nobus first
What the fuck are you doing?
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>>123749017
It will probably be the first item in the Saint Quartz shop.
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Dude from last thread.
Going to ask one last time, does anyone actually need a tamamo or is everyone set due to caster liz?
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>>123749095
it's not like Liz's NP is an AoE
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>>123749050
Post friend code then, I'll add everyone that replies to the post when I get to my Tamamo account in a bit
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>>123749081
>>123749107
That's what I was thinking. There really isn't much else I would want to spend quartz on if I don't have to besides the gacha.
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>>123749017
As long it's no more than 20 quartz a piece, I would buy some. Doubtful though.
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Why is this allowed?
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>>123748669

My reasoning is that if DW is going to be a little bitch then so will i.
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>>123748530
Crossover soon.
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Holy shit, why do Waver and Mephisto keep getting charmed by this filthy whore?
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>>123749113
I need one as a support, I didn't get the chance to get myself a Liz during the event.

>>123749180
I imagine it would be pretty pricy, but I think it would be worth.
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>>123749153
>using the NP from the get go when you haven't soften her yet
Son, you stupid?
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>>123749212
>Finally get to burn miki
Fucking when?
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>>123749201
Pairing Shirou with anyone but his canon waifu Sakura is a sin.
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>>123749201
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I think the Halloween Event was too lenient/easy to clean out the entire shop but this one is the opposite end of the spectrum in feeling like an awful grind.

It's the good rewards of the Liz event meets the awful grinding of the Dango event but with even more extra layers of shit stacked on top of it like having to gimp yourself to maximize point gains.
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>>123748984
>Gudao CE

who needs that shit when medusa CE is where it is
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>>123748669
what are the chances of getting banned using that?
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>>123749317
>sakurafags being this deluded
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>>123749239
Level 70 ascended tamamo with gaduo ce
Feel free to delete me when you no longer need me.
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>>123749253
Casters are meant to spam NPs, you don't save it up.
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I love Nobu
But I'm only at 150K
I'm so sorry.
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>>123749050
>killing the nobus

daily reminder that thanks to retards like this the dailies got nerfed
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>>123749029
I'll be honest, I don't know how much worse the community will get if it was real multiplayer.
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>>123749348
I uh don't think you remeber the Halloween event as well as you think you do
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>>123749348
They realized they fucked up giving so many apples and want us to spend it. Too bad DW, I ain't playing your game. I'll settle with 1 Nobu.
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>>123749378
I do actually have Medusa CE on an account with a lvl 80 Waver
I can offer that too after I finish my AP
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>>123749428
>killing the boss buffer is okay guys! Because Casters are meant to spam NP you see!
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>>123749253
using 300% NP
you expect to save that shit
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>>123749272
Why would you do that?
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>>123749382
No one using the cheat apk has gotten banned yet so 0%.
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Fuck this shit game, I'm going to start Starlight Stage instead. At least the SR rates in that game aren't as dogshit.
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>>123748984
If you wouldn't mind adding me, my code is 351,136,940
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>>123749574
>>123749428
>you have to use your np when its full
This is why the dailies were nerfed. Retards like you.
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>>123749159
495929343
Thanks
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>>123749659
>>123749718
Do you prefer 80 Waver with Medusa? I can do that too
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>>123749418
>gaduo ce
into the bin it goes
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>>123749667
I actually have a much easier time killing the nobus first. Mata hari just spends a lot of time debuffing and doesn't hit much, compared to the nobus who would almost guaranteed hit every turn.
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Nero event was actully kinda fun, I skipped dongos, Halloween was kinda neat, gonna skip this event in sensing a pattern here this game is shit.
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>>123749505
There were so many apples given out (And at least a few time extensions if I remember right) that the mechanics of the event weren't even relevant by the end.

Also you could convert pumpkins into the lower currencies which made shit 1000x easier on you
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>>123749736
Oh that'd be even better.
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>>123749630
>Every time someone gives up on this game.
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>>123749667
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>>123749736
The Waver might be a better one for me, but either one is much appreciated.
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>using some nip's okita
>he changed it to casko as soon as I finished the run

this daily confirmed to being hard
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>>123749630
Rates for 4* in this game is good though
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>>123749763
Dango event was whaling cancer.

This one is too.
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>>123749747
Nobus do trash meaningless damage, have no debuff and no charm. They also spend a solid chunk of the time healing themselves.
This is not rocket science.
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Reminder we will never get an event as based as halloween.
Hopefully christmas might be better but I don't havr that much hopes.
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>>123749809
>>123749848
I got a 90 waver and open slots.
811,523,051
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>>123749882
At least we have apples now. Normal people can at least play till they get what they want while whales can just first day shop clear.
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>>123749942
Shows up at Ushi
guess gotta wait
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So this event is whale's wet dream right

I can imagine Keripo happily spending thousands to get 1.5 million points and clear the store in the first 4 hours
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>>123749836
>this quest is piss easy if you aren't stupid
>baww muh feelings go back to reddit
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>>123749882
The difference between dangos and this event is that there's a servant in it I really want to work on, but everything is limited time only.
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>>123749995
It's the leader of the last party you used right?
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>>123749912
Christmas should just have them give us shit. Or special Christmas gatcha you get to use FP on to get shit that's better than usual.
Maybe both.
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>>123749960
Clearing the shop takes an ungodly amount of grinding that even whales can't skip so I can't see many of them clearing it on the first day regardless.

It's far harder to clear the shop than to hit 1.5kk HP.
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>>123750060
leader of party 1
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>>123750060
Party one leader nigga
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>>123749912
I'm fully expecting to get the same shit as this event but added RNG when you buy something with a 90% chance of it being useless coal.
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>>123750093
>>123750094
ok should be fixed whenever server updates it then.
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>>123749667
But I have no problem clearing it, why would I want to go slow and save up just to be safe?
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>>123749942
Many thanks
>>
Things I need: 4 talons for herc 200 bowl skull, and 1 more spider ce, 5 pages.
Things I want: all 40 fou, 8 more talons for liz.
Bonus stuff: everything else.
Hp goal: 1 millon at 403,910.
I am positive I'll get the things I need and want. So I guess life isn't that bad, though worried about hp.
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Will I be able to handle the Assassin daily with my team? The Saber one was wrecking me and forced me to farm 30AP. I don't have any other gold servants, or friends with a better Okita
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>>123750130
The other 10% is the thing you're trying to buy.
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>>123750179
Consideting your team composition and the levels my final veredict is cheat apk
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>Self-insert heroine is the cutest character in the game
Why is THIS allowed?
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>>123749942
Thanks
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>>123750132
Thank you if you accept my request. I'm probably going to go to bed soon, but I'll be up in a few hours to start grinding away with your Waver.
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>>123750179
You lack Casters, so you will suffer with the assassin one as much (or more) than you suffered through the Saber one. Also, your Ushi will get wrecked hard.
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>>123750252
>Mashu
>Self insert
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>>123750252
>cutest character in the game
but anon, pic related
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>>123750313
>I will never roll her
I'll have to settle for Waver's boypussy, I guess
>>
759,189,300

Level 70 Clown with Medusa CE and maxed attack. Both skills are at 6.
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>>123749630
The rates don't mean shit when they give you literally no jewels to roll with.

>oh great, today's login bonus is 50 jewels, I should be well on my way to do a 10 roll now
>10 roll costs 2500
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If the assassin daily is this hard imagine how brutal the lvl 80 and 90 quests will be

What if the rider daily Has Marie again and she spams endless shield
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>>123750427
Then DW wins they get my 700 refunded dollars never again.
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>>123750405
thanks senpai
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>>123750405
for what purpose
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>>123750405
CLOWN ANON IS OUR SAVIOUR
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>>123750427
>level 60 Jing Ke
Could just solo.
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>>123750427
Gonna be Blackbeard I feel.
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>>123750405
I'd rather suffer than use that fucking clown
Sending invite
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>>123750489
I would force her to do unthinkable things.
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>>123750489
>>123750498
it might just be because it's late but am I the only one seeing a resemblance between these two pictures
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Post Siegfried
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>>123750414
Are you implying the Saint quartz rate is any better?
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>>123750526
Haha, no
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>>123750694
Back to the streets with you
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>rolled a clown in the FP gatcha

This must be a message
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>>123750785
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>>123750735
I did Jing Ke, Mata Hari and Mashu last time no problem.
Marie was really overrated.
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It's funny I finally got enough Archer Monuments oing the 10 AP to ascend Gil. Think I got around 7 in 4 hours.
>>
Class triangles can eat shit, my level 90 Jeanne laughs at everything regardless.
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I wonder if DW will ever release a hybrid Quick + Crit buff CE in the vein of Hakuno CE.

Shit would be pretty cash.
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>>123750962
>tfw sold my jeanne account
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>>123750962
Your level jannu also gets ignored since shes not an event servant
Meanwhile shitty clown is drowning in the fp
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>>123750962
I cannot hear you over getting reckt by Berserkers
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>>123750979
It would involve a lot of cash
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>>123750708
I don't need to imply, it objectively is. People who have been playing from the start should have like 500 now.
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>>123750962
>the worst 3* caster will get more fp today than yours
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>>123751030
>stun
>berserker just melts
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>>123751096
>implying shitty atk jannu damage can even 2 turn one of the proper berserker bossess
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>>123750093
>>123750094
>Pirate sluts with no CE since day 1 of event
te he pero
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>>123746136
SLEEP IN EMPTINESS, CROOKED CLOWN!
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>>123751182
>shitty attack
>one of the higher in the game
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Clown's profile stats are actually pretty ok
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>>123751030
Not like there will be any Berserker day again tho.
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I wish I could choose which friends show up on the friend support list. Got a lot of Okitas, but no Lizs
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>>123750962
Oh yeah, I have a level 83 Jeanne. The Rider and Archer daily is not that hopeless after all then.
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>>123751264
Stats are arbitrary though.
And his skills are awful even lorewise.
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Okay Clown anon, I know you're here.
Explain why you tolerate clown. I want a serious explanation.
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RIP whale, you will be missed
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>>123750405
Added. Lv80 jets with medusa ce.
>>
How does Nasu even justify making characters from fictional books into Servants.

It's not even like Arthur who "most probably wasn't real", it's "this person definitely wasn't fucking real because they're a fictional character written by a well known author".
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I did not realize how hard my level 80 emiya was carrying me. I actually can't complete this quest now.
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Might take a hour to update, nothing I can do about that

054,342,302
40 slots
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>Max ascended Gudao actually does give 60% as support
Thanks spreadsheet autist.
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>>123751629
Mexican prostitute
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My Caster Liz can barely carry me through Assassin 40AP, but I can't level her further because no EXP daily right now. Same for Nobunaga.
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>>123750405
>>123751629
Added you both. Lvl 90 Kintoki.
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>>123751649
see
>>123747882
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>>123750405
>>123751629
Added. Lvl 90 Gil.
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>>123751569
>nasuverse
>proper justification
>we are getting Dumas and Monte Cristo
dis nigga
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>>123751569
Dude I just wanted to write some porn back then, nobody told me millions of retards would take things so seriously

-Nasu
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>>123751829
Zero was serious.
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>>123750405
Sent you a friend request. Nobu 46 with Gudao (I usually have Lancer Liz or Chevalier lv 60+).
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>>123750979
Quick buff means more star generating on just one kind of card and the second effect is more crit damage.
May as well use the dango ce
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>>123751874
Zero was a mistake.
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>>123751903
>didn't get to max the dango CE because no drops
>2 GUDAO CE drops this event

Why didn't it drop?
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>>123751629
Added. Allow me to feed you with my FP
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>>123749494
>Gilgamesh is the strongest of all Servants
>UNRIVALED
>Achilles can handle Gilgamesh by himself
>Archer Herc when
>Vlad > Karna and Achilles
>Kojirou is and will always be the most skilled of all Nasuverse
And this are only a few examples.
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>>123751829
Nasu never wanted to write porn though, that was all Takeuchi.
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>>123751957
I know that feel.
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>>123751504
Autism
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>>123751874
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>>123751948
>Best of the Fate universe
>Mistake
Only Strange Fake can get close. Apocrypha had potential until the Sieg and Astolfo trash.
>>
Everyone adding he Medusa Waver, I'll remove you for management reasons after the assassin daily expires
I have a 90 Artoria on that account so I can add you again for the Lancer daily when that rolls around

Which daily is next anyway?
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>>123752021
Whats wrong with Herc Archer and Kojirou being the only guy skilled enough to swing true magic?
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>>123752078
That was a good CE as well, with crit star generation as well as crit damage. It's like it's made for itself.
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>>123752108
Rida
Lanca
Casta
Aacha
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>>123751569
They've even made a book into a servant.

Not a character. A fucking book.
>>
>>123752053
Takeuchi was the worst thing to ever happen to the Fate verse. Fucking bitch is not only responsible for the retarded ero scenes, but is also responsible for Saberface and DW being in charge of DW. Why is that retard still alive?
>>
>>123752094
Kerry and Seibah alter would be a good Master-Servant pair?
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>>123752096
>Best
But anon, that's Fate/stay night.
>>
>>123752164
>we will forever have dango effects at 15%
dostedt
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>>123752158
Archer Herc will probably never happen and being a one trick pony doesn't make you the most skilled of all times.
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>>123752265
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>>123752096
>Zero
>Best
Carnival Phantasm>Heavens Feel>CCC>Zero=Strange Fake(if nothing fucks up)>Extra>Ataraxia>Prism Ilya>Unlimited Blade Works>Apocrypha=Fate
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I love Nobu
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>>123752053
>loves the Saberface so much he told Nasu to make FSN a porn game just so he could self-insert himself fucking Saber
Truly cancer
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>>123752224
That's the worst.
>>
After much thinking, I've decided on a quick team, though I'm not sure if the CE is the best choice or not. Is this okay?
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>>123752169
>Rida
I think I may be fucked.
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>>123752341
Has Japan ever hated a producer of a game company more than him?

He's become a literal meme.
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>>123752338
>CCC
>Above anything
That shit is worse than even FSN overall.
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>>123752339
Nobu loves you too.
>>
>>123752339
Link to the artist?
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>>123752384
Servants practically double their level when against weak enemies, so level those assassins to 40-50 and you should be fine enough.
>>
>>123752338
I found UBW to be the least interesting once you know all the spoilers/revelations, while Fate was still enjoyable.

I would still not count Carnival Phantasm as part of Fate, since it's a crossover with Tsukihime as well.
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>>123752285
>one trick pony
>successfully duels multiple opponents who completely and utterly outclass him
I don't want to start more powerlevel shit but Kojirou really is top tier skill, even if THE BEST is debatable.
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>>123752429
Mari Okada? Mitsuo Fukuda?
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>>123749565
I for one like to spam, RULE BREAKER!
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>>123752479
>level those assassins
Wasting AP on farming exp is probably even worse than just settling for 30AP on that day.
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>>123752553
I like Nagi no Asakura.
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>>123752553
>producer
>game company
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>>123752265
So close yet so far
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>>123752582
>not leveling all your servants
It's not like he'll have to do it every event. To each their own choice.
>>
>>123752489
>Loses to Seibaface in a pure swordmanship fight without managing to do any damage at all
Top tier yes, but saying he is the best is retarded. There is no way to know who is the literal best unless some fucker with EAM EX or a NP that literally states he is the best ever appears.
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>>123752096
>>123752338

You guys are forgetting something.

Fate/Zero > Prototype Fragments > Heaven's Feel > Carnival Phantasm > CCC > Strange Fake > UBW > Apocrypha > Fate > Extra > Ataraxia > Prisma Ilya
>>
>Not a single brave chain from Waver
>Mata Hari uses NP
>4/5 Waver Cards come up
Thanks game
>>
>>123752681
fragments can't be that high because ozy a shit
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>>123752372
REGEND
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>>123752429
Hideous Baba has stopped attending Tales Fes out of fear that people will try to murder him over the Alisha debacle.

Shoji has nothing on him.
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>>123752681
>that pic
holy fuck senpai
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>>123752669
I try to level all my servants inbetween events, but I never seem to get the time for it. I blame these high maintenance 5* bitches eating up all my exp and then demanding that I farm ascension mats for them.
>>
Should I wore out Sheno or Carmilla for the Rider daily?
Considering it's likely blackbeard, Stheno would deal more damage with her NP
>>
>>123752681
Yeah, completely forgot about Fragments. Strange Fake should be on par with it though.

Fate/Zero > Prototype Fragments = Strange Fake > Heaven's Feel > UBW = Prisma Ilya > Carnival Phantasm > CCC = Extra > Ataraxia > Apocrypha = Fate.
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>>123750405
SLEEP IN EMPTINESS, CROOKED CLOWN!
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>>123752678
He deliberately lost.
>EAM EX
Considering how many characters we have who shat all over everyone around when they were alive and don't have it, I'd doubt we will even see EAM again.
Unless they give it to Musashi for NIPPON BANZAI
>>
>>123752861
>>123752681
>forgot Fragments
Carnival Phantasm>Heavens Feel>CCC>Zero=Strange Fake(if nothing fucks up)>Fragments>Extra>Ataraxia>Prism Ilya>Unlimited Blade Works>Apocrypha=Fate
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>>123752940
EAM is skill, not who shits all over everyone else. You can shit all over others by having much higher stats, incredibly good close combat personal skills, or broken NPs.
>>
What are the nips saying about the event?
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>>123752681
>>123752737
>>123752767
>>123752861
>>123753007
Hold up a minute senpaitachi, I forgot something too.

Fate/Zero > Prototype Fragments > Heaven's Feel > Carnival Phantasm > CCC > Strange Fake > UBW > Apocrypha > Fate > Extra > Ataraxia > Prisma Ilya >>>>>>>>>> Grand Order

Also 123753007-san, I don't think you've read Fragments.
>>
>>123752476
https://twitter.com/deras_bgt/status/670845352229117952
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>>123753084
Go to 2ch and read the FateGO twiter hashtag if you need to know
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>>123753007
>CCC above Zero
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>>123752849
>Stheno would deal more damage with her NP
anon...
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>>123753240
DELET THIS
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>all the gilg fags rating strange/fake low because he got blown the fuck out

diaperhead servant a best
>>
>>123753240
I love large areloe on large breast. Makes me wanna just put em in my mouth and never let go.
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>>123753303
Orion pls
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>>123753240
Whoever made this is a literal kek.
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>>123753240
I know her skills, and moves are shit, but hot damn do I still want moon tits someday.
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>>123753063
>stats and NPs
>when they were alive
Hercules, Cu, Lu Bu, Achilles and Robin off the top of head were all easily and unarguably the most skilled warriors in their era, and they don't have it.
Achilles even fought Hector without his invincibility.
>>
>>123753206
I thought I remembered Stheno dealing extra damage to males
Woops.

I guess people will just use a 90 Kintoki then
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is there a CE tier chart?
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I take it the mobs don't like Okita as much as Nobu doesn't? Every time I bring her she gets focus fired until ded while the others are ignored.
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Fuck this bitch
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>>123753303
>>123753325
>>123753383
>>123753409
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>>123753240
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>>123752639
What if for christmas they gift a copy of an event ce?
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>>123753490
>Hercules, Cu, Lu Bu, Achilles and Robin off the top of head were all easily and unarguably the most skilled warriors in their era, and they don't have it.
If she have that Poster girl CE then she's going to get hit in the first 3 turns
>>
>>123753460
If they don't have it they weren't. And yes, they had stats and NPs when they were alive. It's explained that having Rin as a Master could put Artoria on the level she was when she was alive.
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>>123753483
There's one on reddit, search there
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>>123753240
>>123753516
Sweet merciful lord. I'm trying to grind here in-game. I dont have time to grind elsewhere.
>>
>>123753516
She's kinda pretty when not drawn with the original face.
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>>123753564
Fuck quote
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>>123753549
My feelings for the game would be the same
content
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>>123753617
Can't you grind both at the same time?
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Can magical carrot butt do it?
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>>123753728
If you grind you don't want to see this trash game at all
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>>123753745
As long as she is lvl 10+, yes.
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>>123753745
9k HP, it's pretty much impossible for anyone to fuck up
>>
>>123753816
>>123753745
Which she obviously is.
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>>123752940
>deliberately lost
Not at all. He thought he had the fight won the moment he had got on even ground and waxes poetic about how he got outplayed.
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>>123753745
Still mad that her NP castle is exactly the same.
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>>123753589
No one had stats in life, that's a summoning thing. Their strength fluctuates like normal people except for freaks like Enkidu.
Half the NPs are explicitly shit they didn't have in real life, like God Hand and Ionian Hetairoi and Knight of Honour.
>if they don't have the skill, they weren't unrivaled
All those people I listed were literally unrivaled in their era, as in no one in the same time period had a chance against them thanks to their skill. Lu Bu and Robin were just normal people, Hercules wasn't almost unkillable and Achilles fought his only potential rival without his gimmick and cleanly destroyed him.
Orion and Romulus are demigods and don't have Divinity, skills don't encompass every single aspect of a Servant.
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Magical carriot butt, I will max level you tomorrow.
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>>123753628
She just needs to be drawn by someone that know how to draw.
>>
Do we have a translation of Nobunaga's my room lines yet?
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>>123753921
>deliberately clashes instead of parrying to bend his sword and create an opening
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>>123754023
Well, that neck
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>>123753958
And equally shit.

AoE NP are pretty bad for these events, since you have to fight Servants with tons of HP.
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>>123753745
Fuck this slut.
>spamming her shit AoE charm
>everyone dies to plinking and turns without action
>only Cu left
>no skills
>no master skills
>no command spells
>throw Gae Bolg
>what do you know, it misses. As usual
>she gets left with 2.5k health
>made to waste a quartz
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>>123754023
>that neck
Yeah, someone who knows how to draw alright.
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>>123753964
>kojiro was unrivaled in his story/life

nah
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Please no more dragon tomorrow.
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>>123754070
Check the pastebin
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>Debuff resistance? Totally useless, into the trash it goes
>wtf why is she stunning my whole party every 3 turns
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whats up with the new 40 ap
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>>123754171
No one is saying he was?
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>>123754116
>not using based Medusa Waver anon or Tamamo anon
Your own fault anon

>>123754260
What do you mean? It's assassins and Mata Hari
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>>123754116
The worst thing is her debuff spam. I once had like three defense downs on each servant in the same turn.
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>>123754116
I spam RULE BREAKER, right back at her and it does the trick everytime by getting rid of her buffs.
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>>123754304
I just wanted to know before going in with my crappy ushi-medusa-benkei team, but that sounds easy enough
thanks anon
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>>123754260
Weaklings lack casters.
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>>123754360
>ushi-medusa-benkei team
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>>123754360
Time to suffer
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>>123754360
RIP anon.
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>>123754360
>easy enough
Enjoy getting reckt

Also, just check the spreadsheet for whats in the quest man
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>>123754404
I fed her to Siegfried.
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>>123754289
>All those people I listed were literally unrivaled in their era
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>people actually managed to waste a quartz vs Mata Hari
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On a scale of 1 to evil witch, how evil is Saber Alter
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>>123754079
He didn't think his sword would bend from one blow and the opening was so infinitesimally small as to barely decrease the effectiveness of the attack. His super special technique was defeated by someone who had never even seen the complete thing before.
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>>123754541
Absolute Zero
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>>123754360
>Ushi
>Medusa
>in an Assassin only map
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>>123754504
Caster Liz is doing good, even if she take forever to kill her.

Caster with a ton of buster when?
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>>123754404
Tamamo is my MVP today.
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>>123754541
0, she simply follows orders.
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>>123754494
>Hercules, Cu, Lu Bu, Achilles and Robin off the top of head were all easily and unarguably the most skilled warriors in their era
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>>123753601
Thank you, sir.
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>>123754541
Saber Alter did nothing wrong. She's a good girl.
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>>123754605
>Nazis aren't evil
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>>123754541
Why didn't they use this dress in FGO?
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>>123754684
>Using a Jew term
>Not national socialist
Good goyim.
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>>123754684
Not even sure how to answer that, gj being the dumbest person out of the 73 posters. Go back to school or read up on nazis
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>>123753964
>Artoria’s abilities rose when having Kiritsugu as Master. Her LCK status decreased since even Kiritsugu still could not provide sufficient magical energy, as a result the status was affected by the Master's way of life. When having Rin as a Master, Artoria was able to unleash her original abilities without being affected by the Master.

>Half the NPs are explicitly shit they didn't have in real life, like God Hand and Ionian Hetairoi and Knight of Honour.
How they fuck do you know they didn't have that in life?

>All those people I listed were literally unrivaled in their era
No EAM means they werent.
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>>123754541
Lawful.
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>>123754706
So they could release the 5* version later.
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>>123754591
ENEMA... ELISH!
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>>123754404
I don't think i've ever seen Medea drawn so beautiful before, she even looks much better then her younger self.
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>>123754824
>ENEMA
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>>123754079
That's his own fucking mistake. He never thought the sword would bend in one single direct clash. He has no one to blame but himself.
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>>123754504
Let me spam paralyze and I can solo anything too.
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>>123754591
I don't get this pic.
Has she had her ass toyed for so long that regular toys no longer have an effect?
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>>123754768
Herc has God Hand as a representation of his twelve labours, Iskander has Ionian Hetairoi as a reprezentation of his armies bond with him, Lancelot has Knight of Honour as a representation of his duel using a stick.
Vlad could not actually turn into a vampire, Jeanne couldn't spontaneously combust as a skill, Liz couldn't summon her castle out of the ground as giant speakers.
Anderson and Shakespeare weren't even wizards, this is all basic info.
>no EAM means they weren't
>no divinity means Romulus wasn't part god
>no military tactics means Saber wasnt an army leader
>no charisma means Boudica and Spartacus had no leadership skills
Please use your head.
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JUST
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>>123755150
>at most one will die and you can kill her next round
This isn't even edging in on JUST territory.
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DW still can't do challenging fights, only annoying ones
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>>123755150
Not as worse as my 7 hp magical liz or the Lancer anon.
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>>123755093
>Herc has God Hand as a representation of his twelve labours
How do you know those 12 labours didn't give him 12 lives in Nasuverse.

>Iskander has Ionian Hetairoi as a reprezentation of his armies bond with him
He had the army with him when alive.

>Lancelot has Knight of Honour as a representation of his duel using a stick.
How do you know he couldn't make them D tier NPs?

>Vlad could not actually turn into a vampire, Jeanne couldn't spontaneously combust as a skill, Liz couldn't summon her castle out of the ground as giant speakers. Anderson and Shakespeare weren't even wizards, this is all basic info.
Doesn't seem that way in Nasuverse.

>Please use your head.
Yeah, HEADcanon is exactly what you are using here.
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>>123755206
Actually she killed both Medusa and Caster Liz that turn. Then I just got the evade master skill and could survive 2 turns with just Waver.
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>>123755274
Now that's JUST territory.
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>>123755264
None of those were bad
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How do you get the 4th Golden Skull? I can only see three in the store.
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>>123755354
(You)
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>>123755268
Eh, shakespeare said he has no knowledge of magicraft doe.
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>>123755354
>People still don't know
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>>123755354
Look closer. You might want to look a little closer at the CEs too.
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>>123755354
This bait
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>>123755354
>(You)
Look harder dumbass and enjoy grinding more mats
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>>123755354
You roll it from gacha.
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>>123755354
Nevermind, I'm dumb.
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>>123755268
>Vlad could not actually turn into a vampire
That part is stated in the Apocrypha novels. The vampire thing is not actually Vlad, but the legend. And Vlad hates that legend even if it's his NP.

In that specific case, Vlad was not a Vampire in the Nasuverse, the legend made him.
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>>123755354
Gotta get it from a drop man. It took me 27 apples
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>>123755340
Explain bad then? She could have still killed my Liz with whatever attack she could have done.
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>>123755268
>I haven't read FSN, Zero, Apocrypha or CCC
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>>123755354
>>123755437
I NEED SO MANY POTS JESUS
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>>123755593
Have fun with the spiders
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>>123755593
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>>123755553
Pretty sure CCC is not translated yet.
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>>123755709
>he can't read moon runes
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>>123755709
Its translated, its not patched.
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320 quartz and this was the best I got.
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I caved and got droid4x. Where can I download F/go? Didn't see anything about it in the pastebin.
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>>123755863
>not doing singles
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>>123755268
Look at the secondary and laugh everyone
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>>123755872
Pastebin says to google
apkpure
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>use two CS for Evil Witch soloing last wave of 40AP because I pick an EMIYA support with Medusa CE
Why people don't use CasLiz, Tamamo or Waver with Medusa CE fuck ;_;
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>>123755593
1000 pots left to get here.
All the Fou cards will be mine.
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>>123755872
DO NOT USE droid4x
Use bluestacks or Andy or any other android simulator
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>>123755917
Thanks senpai, will update with future progress.
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>>123755872
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xth for best snek.
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Is 60 apples enough to get almost 2000 spiders?
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>>123755950
What's wrong with it? A fair few people use it here from what I can tell.
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>>123756020
Do it over the course of 2 weeks and see
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>>123755872
>didn't see anything about it in the pastebin
>linked in both the mega pastebin and the faq pastebin

Don't bother, you're just blind.
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>>123756021
It doesn't emulate a device, so IF you should ever have problems with your account and mail the support, they will just tell you to fuck off since you use an emulator.
Bluestacks/Andy/Geny and all the other emulator emulate an actual device so IF you should ever have to contact their shit ass support you have atleast chances to get your stuff back.
Also droid is just bad, it's slower and has more hicups than other emulators
People just use droid, because they are too dumb to take 1 minute to debloat bluestacks
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>>123756156
wait a sec

why?
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>>123755093
I thougt god hand was a representation of the lion skin he wore and the 12 lives of the 12 labours
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>>123755393
He can't use any magecraft though, barely anything. Stated in his profile.

>>123755445
Vlad is a rare case, even having 2 versions because Dracula. He is the only Servant so far which legend was fucked up the way it was.
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>>123756156
What?
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Don't worry guys, I totally got this.
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>>123755553
>>123755895
Oh look, can't back up my headcanon so I need to say secondary because I can't comeback. I think this is pretty much done.
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>>123756275
Casko can solo it, honestly
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>>123756275
See you in half an hour.
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>>123756179
Why not?
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>>123756125
How do you debloat other tan deleting those games it has?
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>>123756337
http://www.technogeekzone.com/2015/02/how-to-stop-bluestacks-from-downloading-apps-in-background-automatically.html
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>>123748054
The accumulated 40 AP is for how many run a day?
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>>123756307
Never doubted her for a second.
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>>123748054
That shit is wrong and misleading.
- the 300% is actually 400%
- the 400% is actually 500%

It should be changed +300% or +400% to be correct or just 400% anf 500% to be more specific.

People who don't have Okita can normally only reach to 400% (or +300% as seen on the party screen) so they can only reach up to 736,800 points normally.

People who don't have Okita will need to farm 300,000 points from 40AP hell to get max NP Nobu.
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>>123756125
I'll add something about this to the faq.
How about recommending a particular one of those three?
I think not bluestacks because it sometimes gives problems when installing repacked apks. Should we recommend andy or genymotion?
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>>123756408
>took 16 minutes
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>>123756457
Bluestacks would still be the best choice, I think.
I can't say anything about Andy, since it doesn't run on my system for some reason. Genymotion takes a bit longer to setup. If I had to choose it would be Geny, I guess.
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>install droid4x for making an alternate account
>get a notif
>"low drive space!"
>check it
>pic related
JUST
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>>123756523
6 minutes.
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>>123756581
Fuck me, I need some sleep
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>>123756523
>>123756581
Shouldn't it be 4?
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Feels good having a waver right now.
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>>123756156
Excuse me, what?
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okita has the best NP
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>>123756681
You mean she has the sexiest feet. She probably sucked Saito off too. I guess this means the myths about homosexuality in the Shinsengumi is actually heterosexual.
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>>123756565
I'll just put the whole explanation then, with geny on top as noob-friendly.
Do you know if it still needs the arm-interpretation package?
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>>123756749
Okita is PURE!
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>the Waver support I had changed him for EMIYA

Fuck you.
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>>123756568
git gud
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>>123756301
>It is aReality Marble that embodiesAlexander the Great'sdreams and philosophies as a king and the bond formed with his subjects, his life sublimated as a Noble Phantasm. Like howSaber's Excaliburcan be called the physical actualization of her ideals as a king, Ionioi Hetairoi is the actualization of Alexander's commanding abilities and his kingship.

>It comes about through the combined efforts of his personal guard, who all shared his dreams and pledged allegiance to him after many victories and defeats, even after death and becoming Heroic Spiritson their own as well. They and their king recreate the land in which they once marched and shared many joys and sorrows, as it is imprinted upon the heart of each soldier, allowing them to bring about a sand-filled expanse roaring with hot and dry desert winds under the scorching sun and cloudless, clear skies without anything to obscure the everlasting horizon.

Iskander and his men could not actually teleport themselves to a pocket dimension through willpower in life. Many other NPs were only obtained after death and at least one is a manifestation of their death.
You even have people like Benkei who wasn't even the real guy, or Nursery Rhyme who wasn't real at all.
It was obvious you were just shitposting when you asked for citation that Vlad wasnt a vampire, fuck off and pretend to be retarded somewhere else with your crappy bait.
Don't expect another response from me.
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>>123756371
For all the runs possible as indicated by the tabs right to the left
7 runs and 8 runs every 5 days

>>123756429
Are you retarded? It's completely sound, you can't math.

The chat percentages are based on the bonus percentage displayed in the party screen you idiot. At 300% bonus you multiply turnout by 4 because you get the base turnout three additional times for a total of 4 turnouts

At 300% you get 300% BONUS you disgrace to mathematics. That is 400% total and 300% displayed on the party screen you infernal failure of addition.
And it's fully possible to reach 400% displayed as F2P without Okita

Nobu + 3x 3* + Benkei = 37 Cost, 140 Bonus
5x CE, 60 cost (97 total), 150 bonus (290 total)
Okita + CE support (130-160)
130+290 is 420, which 5.2 times the turnout of no bonus at all you disgusting mongoloid.
Not everyone is complete garbage like you are and burned their 3*s.

At 500% displayed you get 6.0 times the turnout but that is only possible with double Okita and max ascended CE

Also, you are completely discounting the HP gained from other maps with your retarded accusations.

How is it even possible to be this wrong and retarded?
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>>123756821
Who was he? Might have been me.
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>>123756878
My rig is a shitcomp from 06 if I remember right. A practical toaster. Worst part is, I can't bear to replace it because there's too much I've done on this computer to let go.
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>>123756975
BaohtZ
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40% of the time
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>>123756878
smalltime
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>tfw your virginity is about to be stolen by a vile succubus
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>>123757087
>waver
why indeed
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>>123757087
How did you fuck up this badly?
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>>123755978
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>>123756753
No idea if it still needs it, but I would guess so
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>>123756301
>Herc has God Hand as a representation of his twelve labours
FSN made it pretty clear Herc's 12 Lives were a representation of his 12 Labours rather than being a skill he had in life.

>He had the army with him when alive.
And Zero made it very clear he wasn't able to summon a reality marble with his entire army when he was alive. The skill was a representation of his legend.

>How do you know he couldn't make them D tier NPs?
Because literally nothing suggest otherwise besides your headcanon. He'd also have been able to wreck Gawain a lot easier and it'd probably have been mentioned in any of the work the round table were involved in.

>Vlad could not actually turn into a vampire, Jeanne couldn't spontaneously combust as a skill, Liz couldn't summon her castle out of the ground as giant speakers. Anderson and Shakespeare weren't even wizards, this is all basic info.
Doesn't seem that way in Nasuverse.

>Vlad is outright stated as not being a vampire
>Jeanne combusting would make literal no sense in the case of a nonservant person since they'd just immediately die
>Liz having speakers makes no sense on the basis of speakers not existing during Liz's time
>Anderson and Shakesphere were again outright stated to not have magic


Like ignoring cases of basic 2 + 2, all these things you are objecting are actually stated in the texts that you clearly didn't read.
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>>123756881
He had the army in life, idiot.

>You even have people like Benkei who wasn't even the real guy, or Nursery Rhyme who wasn't real at all.
Same case as Kojirou, what does that prove?

>Many other NPs were only obtained after death and at least one is a manifestation of their death.
None of the Servants you mentioned that didn't have EAM even though your headcanon wanted them to have it got any that way.

>It was obvious you were just shitposting when you asked for citation that Vlad wasnt a vampire
Didn't ask for a citation of that though?

>Don't expect another response from me.
I wouldn't expect a response from someone who got BTFO this hard because he couldn't back up his argument. "HURR THEY DIDN'T HAVE STATS IN LIFE" absolutely obliterated by the materials, of course I wouldn't expect a response from you.
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Level 80 Waver with event 5* CE
277, 699, 695

Man, he's gotten so good after his buff. Anyone know how much his defence his NP lowers?
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>>123757087
should have brought casko
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>>123757143
Then we're back to the start.
Looking at the link before it looks like there's a rooted version of bluestacks which doesn't need debloating.
I'll test it out, it's probably the best candidate for noob-friendly.
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>>123757225
Still shows as Carmilla, still added.
If anyone has a Waver/Casko with GUDAO or Medusa 5* please add 817,839,801
Okita with GUDAO
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>>123757225
At Level 100/200/300/400/500%
10%/20%/25%/27.5%/30%
30%/40%/45%/47/5%/50% after the interlude.
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>>123757340
sent
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>>123756878
>not naming the drives based on boob size

>>123757225
>what does NP do
Just consult Cirno or SS
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>>123757010
>it was
Fucking kek
I only changed for the HP daily, Weibah should be back now.
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>>123757225
Added level 80 EMIYA
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>>123757460
For a second I thought your QP were your FP and was gonna ask how you got 20 million FP
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>tfw Waver Buster crits for 40k
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>>123757340
Woops. Forgot it was only as the first team
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>>123756784
>he actually thinks any of the Sabers are pure
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>>123757579
They're all men, you can't deny their pureness
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Good night, /fgog/!
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>>123757159
It's cited by Atalanta in Apo that he had it.
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>>123757341
Jesus, that's fucking high...right? not sure about the others.
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>>123757136
I'm actually a newfaggot at this game so all my personal servants are sub-level 20. They got their asses handed to them in the second stage

I survived it though by tossing a command spell at Waver and reading that advice-drama about not killing the Nobbus
>>
So seriously, what's the overarching plot for Grand Order?
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>>123757403
Accepted
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>>123757562
I wish, without Journey even buffed Waver with Formalcraft gets me less then 200 fp a day outside of events that need him.
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>>123757460
Hah, thanks, using your fuccboi again on the 40AP.

>>123757579
Gilles is pure madness.
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>>123757651
Well his NP doesn't do damage
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>>123757418
>SS
I like this way of calling it, makes sense in more than one way.
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>>123757460
>304 quartz
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>>123757676
World's fucked, everybody good is dead, newbie Gudako is all that's left, Lev is the one fucking it up because probably Solomon, we gotta fix it
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>>123757676
Same as Dragonball Xenoverse as far as I can tell
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>>123757693
And people laugh at SS-chan

>>123757714
All hail SS :^)
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>>123757159
You're wrong about god hand though.
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>>123757496
>dat mad dog

Lovely.
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>>123757785
>>123757629
>Herc could revive 11 times in Nasuverse
But he died once. He was poisoned and set himself on fire.
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>>123757726
>not saving up for your waifu
I bet you wasted all that early quartz on Gilgamesh, you faggot.
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TL?
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>>123757897
Wrong faggot, I wasted it on Okita.
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>>123757726
Is that bad?
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>No attack can affect his body unless it is of the highest grade.
>So, he rarely takes wounds.
>In the age of gods, no one could scratch him after he had accomplished his great deeds.
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>>123757897
Who is your waifu
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>>123757932
>tfw you still don't have her.

I've rolled like 10 10 rolls between all my accounts and I still haven't gotten her.

I did get a second Seig on my main though. Totally worth. ;_;
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>>123757960
But he died. He was murdered.
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>>123757960
fuck>>123757886
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>>123757340
added, lvl 77 waver
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>>123757897
>tfw your waifu didn't even require quarts
I'm glad but sad at the same time that she's a 3*.
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How ridiculous is double waver + andersen in terms of buffs?
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>>123748586
10AP gives the least HP per AP. 20AP the second least, 30AP is the second best.
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>>123758023
Then the poison killed his body 12 times.
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>>123758092
>waifu is unreleased and a guaranteed five star
At least second and third best Fate are three stars.
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>>123758174
Who. Is. Your. Waifu?
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>>123757960
That's vague enough that it could just be used to support why 12 Labors grants effective immortality, but I'm willing to concede.

I think some skills were likely available to servants during life, but others skills are obviously modified to represent their legend since that's what servants are about, see Vlad and the like. Shit like EAM isn't something people could really have in life since it implies a huge power boost over mere mortals. (Movement from E->D is pretty ridiculous even if it's low on the power level scale)

I feel like Nasu sometimes is inconsistent on real life power levels too, since it seems like he implies that Arthuria was super strong in real life and I'm pretty sure he's stated that servants are weaker than their real life counterparts at some point as well, despite saying the opposite with the power boost that comes in being a servant.
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>>123758168
God Hand is specifically set up to make shit like that impossible.
Hercules was poisoned and then burned in a normal fire.
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>>123758174
Who's you're waifu? I only need one more Euryale till i max her NP that's one benefit of being 3*.
I wish you luck in rolling her.
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>>123757159
>The Labors were all things that a human could not achieve but Heracles completed them safely, and at the same time he was freed from slavery, he received an immortal body.
>A blessing of Gods, as well as a curse. It is a Noble Phantasm given to Heracles, representing immortality. This Noble Phantasm does not have an overt external manifestation such as a weapon or armour, but if you hazard to put a shape to it, the body itself can be called the Noble Phantasm.
CM3, BTFO.

Iskander had the army in life.

>The Noble Phantasm of a Heroic Spirit doesn't need to manifest through a characteristic object. Sometime, it can be a type of Noble Phantasm that manifests through a "unique ability" retained by the Servant's very body.
Same case as Herc God Hand. It's the other way around, retard. You thinking he didn't have it even though he has it as a Servant is your headcanon.

Vlad is also stated to be rare case of the legend merging with fiction, he is the exception, not the rule.

Andersen and Shakespeare still have no magic and are pretty much limited to what their personal skills and NPs can do.
>Though he is a Caster, he can use almost no magecraft.
>While he does not know magecraft, by putting his Noble Phantasm to practical use, it seems he can more or less produce what can be found in his literary works.

As for Liz having speakers, seems like they did have it. Real life rules don't apply to Nasuverse. You think submarines existed during Gilgamesh era? Well, they did, and they were better than the current ones.
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>>123758168
But God Hand would have made him resistant to the poison after dying once.
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>>123758228
>I feel like Nasu sometimes is inconsistent
Headline of the century there
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>>123758126
I'd be more surprised if it didn't work like that.
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>>123747004
Don't worry anon, I'm sure they'll nerf it somehow. There are no good lancers, after all
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>>123758237
His god hand was turned off, just like in this game.
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>>123758291
Why would the castle have speakers? The actual spear she's wielding is the literal castle. Don't think it was like that in life.
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>>123755054
There's no real narrative to it. It was an open-ended request to a drawfag known for being lewd, with the only real constraint being that it had to be something that wouldn't get you banned on a blue board.
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>>123758237
Hydra poison is enough to make the gods want to seek death. I would not imagine that the pain would have persisted through multiple lives or something.
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>>123758342
It's going to be Robin Hood. 3-bar NP. Enjoy
400k+ HP
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>>123758220
>>123758264
Pic related.
Euryale will get a rate up when the alternate Medusas are released, so it will happen eventually.
My Euryale is gated by hearts right now though, fucking spider farming.
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>>123758441
>3 bar NP

Why do they allow this
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>>123758342
You could say the same for Assasins.

It honestly depends on the servant they'll pick.
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>>123758029
Doesn't show up. Do you have by any means a 90 Gilgamesh without CE?
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Jesus Christ this 40AP
Tried it once with my 410% team, got destroyed
Tried it with Waver instead of Okita, lasted for a long time but Cham2Strong
Now I'm going in with both Waver and CasLiz but this is so bad in terms of points.
I don't know anymore
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>>123758228
>I feel like Nasu sometimes is inconsistent on real life power levels too, since it seems like he implies that Arthuria was super strong in real life and I'm pretty sure he's stated that servants are weaker than their real life counterparts at some point as well, despite saying the opposite with the power boost that comes in being a servant.
Think of it this way.
The weaker you are, the bigger of a boost you get from becoming a Heroic Spirit, like Stheno and Shakespeare and Emiya. On the other hand, stronger heroes like Arturia and Heracles don't benefit.

Servant containers and Master limitations nerf Heroic Spirits so Arturia needs a good Master like Rin to bring her back to her original power level.
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>>123758362
I don't think you understand Nasuverse. Real life logic doesn't apply to some universe where a little girl has a literal dragon inside her, ayy lmao aliens helped the egyptians, and people before christ had better technology than ours.
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>>123758441
>tfw it's Arash again
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>>123758526
Okita 57 max ATK fous, 70 EMIYA and Support Waver/Casko. No casualites here. You are doing something wrong, definitely.
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At a recommended level of 80, the Archer quest will be brutal as fuck.
Especially for Okita supports.
And there are no 5* lancers and Liz Lancer is not that good
Better have a 80 Liz and 70 Cu and then a 70 Cu support

>>123758441
Most likely Nobu herself as it's the last class quest before the lvl 90 final quest and it makes no sense to make that Archer if it wasn't Nobu

>>123758526
40 AP is primarily mats, the points are an okay bonus but pointless if you can't beat the map
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>>123758498
Halloween wasn't long ago, so most people playing have at least a Liz. The archer event is going to be stupidly hard unless they use Arash
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>>123758441
I really really hope it's Arash so Jeanne can just make everyone invincible and he kills himself.
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>>123758526
Waver can solo this 40 man, git gud.
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>>123758501
I did, I guess it takes a while to switch.
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>>123758291
>Vlad is also stated to be rare case of the legend merging with fiction, he is the exception, not the rule
Innocent monster, Semiramis.
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>>123758468
>Sakura
Are they making her a demi servant? or is there something I'm missing here?
Anyways i hope they up her rate, i really want to max her NP as soon as possible. I'm also gated by hearts to max her skills right now, even the amount given in this event isn't enough.
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>>123758526
What are you even doing?

40 Nobu, 77 Caster Liz, support Emiya + 3 level 1s and finish it with ease, even if it takes awhile.
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>>123758526
If you have any CEs that aren't GUDAO or Poster Girl, try and replace them with Primeval Magic or Moon Jewel. Primeval Magic will be better against the ghost but Moon Jewel is better against Mata Hari.
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>>123758576
Well, I've got max EMIYA and Nobu, took a max Okita as a support and the spoopy ghost fucked me in the ass so hard, it was basically impossible to even take half of Mata Hari's life.
Doing no damage to this bitch is so suffering
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>>123758550
That doesn't really work in the line of discussion you're trying to take.
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>>123758291
>It is a Noble Phantasm given to Heracles, representing immortality.
So noble phantasms didn't exist during their lives but present aspects of their lives/persons/legends.

This doesn't state that Herc ran around with God Hand on the regular, but God Hand was created from the understanding that Herc became immortal from his trials, which manifested as his NP.

In the case of Lancelot, EAM is just a reflection of his great skills in life, that doesn't mean he had EAM during his life and any weapon he had was just instantly better. They were just effectively better because he was skilled and as a servant that effect was multiplied becoming EAM.

>Iskander had the army in life.
He sure was good at using reality marbles too, right? Iskander proves that NPs are adjusted to be vastly different from their real life inspiration.
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>>123758609
Alright, added. Gonna see when it switches
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>>123758646
Probably doesn't have a high level CasLiz and the daily quest does not give EXP, so he can't level her up.
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>>123758646
>2 characters permacharmed
I don't know if I just got unlucky in that fight or what, but she won't even let me attack.
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>>123758634
>Are they making her a demi servant?

With Parvati, yes
And the Alteregos
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>>123758550
Liz is a dragon girl with an idoru microphone lance who summons a gigantic castle that shoots sound waves.
While that wouldn't really be out of place in Nasuverse, its noted that she didn't have any of those things in life.
Servants arent literal 100% representations of people as they were exactly, thats repeated in pretty much every fate work.
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>>123758228
>Shit like EAM isn't something people could really have in life since it implies a huge power boost over mere mortals.
EAM isn't fucking power, but skill. Just like how Anderson Silva would fuck your shit up for being far more skilled at battle, Lancelot would fuck Anderson Silva's ass because he is far more skilled, it has nothing to do with power.
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>>123758590
>>123758601
I want that but they already are using him for 10 ap.

>inb4 Orion with Mind's eye every turn
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>>123758725
The first thing I did after Halloween was level Liz because I doubt I will ever use a support caster in the next event, and damn right I am.

>>123758736
My Liz got perma charmed and stunned but still survived. NP is charm, not damage, which means there's a chance to miss, giving you a free pass.
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>Tfw literally 0 casters
>Low level team overall
And I though I had a chance in this event
This is only going to get worse, isn't it?
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>>123758601
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>>123758835
You bet.
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Who would be the best servent to mix with for demi-servant Emiya Shirou?
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>>123758835
Time to do 30 AP.
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>>123758634
Yeah, Sakura is the vessel for Parvati, the Hindu goddess of love, marriage, commitment and family.
And maybe we will get hearts for christmas, you would think all the ascension items would be presents.
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>>123758835
The suggested level has risen by 5 each day so far. Why don't you just spam the lower AP quests if you need EP? You should have gotten enough beyblades to buy the two skulls by now.
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>>123757460
man I've had you on my friendlist forever and only just now realized you were a fellow anon
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>>123758887
Avenger exist.
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>>123758835
I'll add you, anon.
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>>123758682
Doesn't seem you understand. Nothing indicates his immortality worked different than God Hand.

EAM and KoH aren't the same.

Iskander doesn't know magic, he can use IH because he had the army to begin with.
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>>123758835
>This is only going to get worse, isn't it?

Only when your last standing servant has an E rank luck stat do you know true despair
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>>123758743
>goddess of love, fertility and devotion.
Hmm, suits her rather well. Well i wish you luck in quarts hording, and may the gatcha be with you. And god i hope we get hearts, also talons need a shit ton of those for her skills as well.
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That wasn't hard. No casualties here.

Medea used Rule Breaker 5 times on Mata Hari. It took a while.
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>events are easy

THIS IS TOO EASY AND I CANNOT HAVE FUN WITH MY OVERLEVELED TEAM

>events are too hard

THIS IS BULLSHIT AND DW IS DOING IT ON PURPOSE TO FORCE US TO USE QUARTZ.!
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>>123758954
Naw man, that's not the problem.
I have a few strong supports but the rest of the team can't keep up nonetheless.
Time for 30AP as other anons said
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>>123758932
I wouldn't mind that honestly.
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>>123758921
Rider is 65
Caster is 70
Lancer is 75
Archer is 80
Final is 90

Actually I might have accidentally swapped Lancer and Caster

The Archer and Final 40 AP quest will be fucking brutal
You either need really good teams + good supports
Or you're a whale
Or you use cheatapk
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>>123758925
I wasn't on the spreadsheet for ages because it kept getting wiped.
Who are you? My friends list has a lot of moonrunes on it.
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>>123756408
>dropped all my 200 crystals and 15 tickets for Casko and got Attila
>mfw I'm sitting at 110 crystals and 11 tickets right now, waiting for Casko release
I won't stop until I get her
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>>123759003
I think the problem here is that we've been forced to dig out the unused Servants for the best bonus.
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>>123758835
GUDAGUDA Tea Gathering Hell ~Sanjiva~ Lv.50 Berserker
GUDAGUDA Tea Gathering Hell ~Kalasutra~ Lv.55 Saber
GUDAGUDA Tea Gathering Hell ~Samaghata~ Lv.60 Assassin
GUDAGUDA Tea Gathering Hell ~Raurava~ Lv.65 Rider
GUDAGUDA Tea Gathering Hell ~Maharaurava~ Lv.70 Lancer
GUDAGUDA Tea Gathering Hell ~Tapana~ Lv.75 Caster
GUDAGUDA Tea Gathering Hell ~Pratapana~ Lv.80 Archer
GUDAGUDA Tea Gathering Hell ~Avici~ Lv.90 ???

Just farm for other items for now and wait till the 40AP changes again?
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>>123759023
Ye, it's Lancer Caster Archer.
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>>123758996
What was your HP% with this team?
Seems like a lot of effort for a really shoddy reward
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>>123759003
This event would not be so hard if we weren't forced to make teams out of specific Servants we may not have leveled.
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>>123759003
There is a difference between challenging content and bullshit
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>>123759054
Hey wait a sec.

Those are all Buddhist scriptures ain't it?
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>>123758960
>Doesn't seem you understand. Nothing indicates his immortality worked different than God Hand.
Except for the fact he died from something that was a A ranked NP.

>Iskander doesn't know magic, he can use IH because he had the army to begin with.

But he wasn't able to use IH in real life, IH is a presentation of his army in the form of a NP. NPs (and servants in general) are representations of a hero's renown.
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>>123758754
>A Noble Phantasm that summons the castle that Elizabeth lived in and ruled over in her lifetime and turns into into a stage where she is prominent.
She did have the castle in live, and she lived in that castle.
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>>123759113
Buddist realms of hell.

I'm playing Tales of Zestiria right now and the malevolent crucibles are using the same names.
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>>123758992
She needs talons and hearts? For a three star?
Well at least its not gears.
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>>123759069
It's only 180% but I don't really care because I don't plan on getting a million anyways. Level 2 Nobu np is enough for me to be content. Everything after is just a luxury and a bonus.
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>>123759003
I like it when the maps are hard, actually makes people cooperate to share strats and supports and shit instead of just BBC everything with zerk rushes

>>123759048
>unused
That is your own fault
60 Ushi, 60 Clown, 70 Medusa, 70 Cu reporting in

>>123759072
This is just challenging and not even that challenging. Pre-Nerf 40 AP Rider daily was harder. Your fault for not leveling the correct servants

And this is an event map so they are not gonna nerf it, thank god.
I will enjoy most of the zerkerfags getting BTFO
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>>123759141
But she couldn't pull it out of the ground as a sonic weapon.
It was just a normal castle.
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>>123759140
>Except for the fact he died from something that was a A ranked NP.
He died when he was immortal in life too. Your point? God Hand can even be turned off as FGO shows.

>But he wasn't able to use IH in real life
Because he had the army in real life.
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>>123759173
lvl8
>Snake Jewel x6
>Chaos Claw x3
lvl 9
>Chaos Claw x8
>Heart of a Foreign God x7

Its ridiculous.
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>>123759205
>That is your own fault
How are you supposed to have every 3* leveled up without refilling? I have enough trouble leveling up my core team inbetween events.
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>>123759054
Lvl 90 will probably be a boss rush.
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t-thanks
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>>123759323
7 wave boss rush? Holy
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>>123759272
I don't think FGO should really be considered canon when considering servants abilities. That to the side, why would Herc ever turn off his immortality? Also it's an automatic skill I really don't' think it's something he'd just turn off because he could.

>Because he had the army in real life.
You keep saying that, but Iksander never had the ability to use a reality marble, effectively making IH servant exclusive. It doesn't matter if he had the army in real life or not. The ability to use a reality marble is very different from having an army.
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I think I'm gonna spam some apples today, seeing that Casko can tank everything.
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>>123759323
>All bosses from the previous 40AP quests
How fucked would you be?
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>>123759323
>>123759364
>reward is crystallized lore
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>>123759393
Yea, some Apples today and the other apples during Lancer
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>>123759428
At this point I'm not expecting anything else.
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>>123759303
Well one of the skills is alright at least.
Clown anon needs 32 gears and he's not even getting a gameplay bonus.
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>>123759428
when will this meme end
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>>123759205
>Your fault for not leveling the correct servants
We don't all have a crystal ball that can see into the future faggot.
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If Mata Hari only would drop the spiders, 4th Monument in a row so far.
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Name the hardest fight to easiest:

>Okeanos final main quest
>Marie interlude
>Stheno interlude
>Nero event final
>Orion event final
>Halloween Encore
>Rider daily (Marie) 40 AP pre-nerf
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>>123759323
>>123759428
Yep, just like Halloween.
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>>123759507
What the fuck are spiders?
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>>123759328
>vlad & medea
Maybe you should use better support that can solo them.
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>>123759529
>No Chevalier interlude
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>>123759529
You forgot d'Eon interlude
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>>123759235
You are grasping at straws here. The castle was just like that in life, as proven by her CCC Matrix. The castle appearing is because she activates the NP.
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>>123759529
>>Marie interlude
>>Stheno interlude

Haven't done them, don't know what they're like.

Nero>Orion>Okeanos>Halloween Encore>Rider daily. Rider daily wasn't even that hard if you had a decent Assassin.
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>>123759317
40 AP exp quests rain gold on you
Getting to level 50 is piss easy in a single day without refills

>>123759423
I don't think anyone but whales could beat that

>>123759495
It's called leveling your shit evenly and being prepared

>>123759529
>No mention of 1 million HP ghost in Deon Interlude
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>>123759597
Except she wasn't an idol in life, and she's repurposed it for that reason.
>Yes, that’s it! Surprisingly this lance is equipped with a microphone, an amp, a smoke machine, lights, a manager, an audio director, an audio manipulator and more! Everything needed for a live performance. (The staff comprises of workaholic ghosts that were imprisoned in Čachtice.)
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>>123759391
>I don't think FGO should really be considered canon when considering servants abilities.
Because it doesn't fit your headcanon? That's not how it works.

>why would Herc ever turn off his immortality
Same reason why Chiron did.

>It doesn't matter if he had the army in real life or not. The ability to use a reality marble is very different from having an army.
It does because he had the army in life and that's the only reason why he can use the RM to begin with. He doesn't know magic, retard, read the fucking novel.
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>>123759570
>>123759640
>can be cheesed with Tamamo or Waver support

Meanwhile there's no good Assassin servant that can cheese through 3 Medusa's spamming NP
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>>123759323
What if it's an army of NOBUs then you fight both Nobu and Okita?
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>>123759714
Carmilla is good now.
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>>123759529
isn't waver last interlude the hardest? 3 gorgon sister with 200k hp
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>>123759597
Lizs castle was not a speaker based sonic weapon, and Liz was not an idoru. CCC goes over this in great detail. Lizs NP is the place she grew up and eventually committed her atrocities, combined with the influence of her younger innocence.
She could not do that while alive.
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>>123759640
The biggest problem would be the high level Oda due to lack of strong Lancers.

I'm honestly hoping the last wave would be
70 Medusa, 80 Oda, and 90 Okita.

Sure that would be hellish but it'd be pretty cool.
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>>123759481
You can't even farm gears can you? Sounds horrible. Hearts are still bitches to get as well though, at least after this event i will only need 4 more.
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>>123759804
It's also compacted into a spear, which wouldn't really have been very doable.
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>>123759781
Did she get buffed as well?

Haven't been playing for a while. Is there a list for this?
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>>123759810
Gorgon not so smug since being molested.
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>>123759872
Ever since the Quick card buff she's actually usable
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>Not a single leveled assassin
>Rider daily

This and archer will be a mess. Guess it is time to lower that bonus.
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>>123759785
>>123759714
>yfw they can be cheesed through with Nobu now
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Is there a place with a summary of the servants interludes?
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>>123759810
Yeah, gears, pages and homo babies are unfarmable, and clown needs at least two.
Good luck with your heart farming, your Euryale will be at her full potential soon.
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>>123759714
Carmilla destroys female Riders with the power of a 1000 suns

>>123759807
Thankfully Lancers have good survival skills

>>123759958
>Not leveling chinese shiki
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>>123759958
I'm just gonna cheese it with Jeanne.
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>>123759703
>I don't think FGO should really be considered canon when considering servants abilities.
Because they're made to be balanced and able to function as a game. Not to mention a lot of them were not well thought out at all. Just look at all the EX and Anti-World NPs. Herc having a fully functioning God Hand in game would just be silly. Not to mention the power levels are defined by expected popularity over everything else. (See all the 5* Waifus vs all the 1* Bara zerkers.)

>Same reason why Chiron did.
You're going to have to remind me about this one.

>It does because he had the army in life and that's the only reason why he can use the RM to begin with. He doesn't know magic, retard, read the fucking novel.

The reason he can use the RM is because he's a servant given the ability to do so because it matched his legend. As a servant his abilities are different from his life, ergo Servants skills are different from their real life skills.Just because he can't use magic otherwise and had an army in real life doesn't mean this isn't a skill he did not have in real life.

Nothing you're saying is contradicting this.
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>>123759958
The 1AP dailies are starting to give more and more HP anyway so you can make it up that way
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>>123759697
>>123759804
She modded the castle in order to do what it does. She did own the castle.
>and this castle which is a stage modded with giant amps
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>>123759958
If the Rider:

Marie = Everyone's fucked.
Martha = Nuke her with Nobu
Drake = Nuke her down with Berserkers/NPs.
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>>123759990
Downloading the scripts and looking at them in GT is the best you're going to get. Except for the translated ones.
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>>123760013
Chiron was poisoned by hydra venom and begged for death since it couldn't kill him but it couldn't be cured.
Ironically, Hercules was the one who poisoned him.
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>>123760007
Carmilla cant break out of
>Medusa stun spam
>NP spams

You fight 6 of them, split into two waves.
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>>123760065
Given that Berserker and Assassin quests have both been bronze Servants and there aren't any bronze Sabers, Rider quest is going to be Blackbeard or George.
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>>123760065
but the thing is it well be saint george,

have fun with zero damage
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>>123759640
>It's called leveling your shit evenly and being prepared
That luxury is only possible for someone who leveled the servants he needs.
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>>123760118
That's actually pretty great, but given otu understanding of how God Hand Works, Herc does effectively die, he just comes back in good health and immune to whatever killed him, so even that type of situation isn't valid.
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>>123760037
The castle she summons as a servant is modified, her real castle wasn't.
Liz was in no way, shape or form an idoru in life.
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>>123760134
>Stun spam
Give her debuff resistance
>NP spams
Pair her with someone like David or Jeanne. So what if it's a suboptimal team.
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>>123760154
>Riding

Nobu Nobu.
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>>123760186
I know.
I'm not him, and disagree with him, I just like the parallel in Chiron and Hercules legends.
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>>123760065
Probably gonna be Blackbeard
Berserker was 2*
Saber was 3*
Assassin is 1*
There are no 1* Riders so my bet is on Blackbeard or George

>>123760134
Maxed Debuff resist CE

>>123760182
I leveled all my 3*s
What now?
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>>123760273
Yeah I like the parallel too. Mirrored endings are the best.
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>>123760237
off course he is a rider, well if he can damage it with 3 def buf active
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>>123760013
The reason why he can use the RM is to summon an army he could summon in real life? Who would have thought.

>As a servant his abilities are different from his life, ergo Servants skills are different from their real life skills.
Are you going against the materials now? Have you read them? Do I have to post the Rin Saber entry again?
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>>123760293
>What now?
Omedeto
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Would Carmilla do good in the upcoming rider 40 AP?
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>>123760293
Shame Blackbeard isn't a chick, or it would be a joke for Lesbian Vampire
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>>123760327
>not using NP instantly

You have 2 waves before to stack up NPs
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>>123760327
i mean she, i mess up with saint george
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>>123760383
>killing little trash mobs so he can spam even more
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For caster daily, Pirate Lesbians will shine
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>>123759810
Okay, what's the reason for THIS pairing?
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>>123760186
>Can't be cured
How is he going to die if it doesn't kill him and can't be cured? If he is killed he will be immune to what he killed him, not to the poison.
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>>123760380
I don't see why not?

It's prob gonna by BlackyBeardy so her NP wont be effective.

Nobu has an anti Rider skill at least.
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>>123760140
>>123760154
>>123760293

Next hell should be

>叫喚地獄
>殺生、盗み、邪淫、飲酒。
>Hell for drunks

Blackbeard it is, I guess.
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>>123760382
both bronze rider is male, if it will be boudica everyone will be happy
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>>123760451
It's not a pairing, Euryale just thought blackbeard was annoying and Blackbeard though Euryale was cute.

And fuck pairings, cant get a good image of my waifu without fluffy these days.
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>>123760482
I have her at a low level so i wondered if it would be worth it to level her for a quest that will only be there for like 2 days.
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>>123760482
Anti riding, not anti rider.
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>>123760546
Aunty Raider?
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>>123760350
>The reason why he can use the RM is to summon an army he could summon in real life? Who would have thought.
Yes that's how all NPs work, they aren't the original but a copy of the original based off the legend. Servant's NPs can be radically different from their real life counterpart depending on how the story of the servant is passed around.


>Are you going against the materials now? Have you read them? Do I have to post the Rin Saber entry again?

Go ahead.
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>>123760546
Seriously? It would even make sense considering her history.

Oh well. Got a Carmilla anyways.
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>Only 200k
Can I still make it? I can barely finish the Assassin quest.
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>>123760482
What >>123760546 said, Nobu's NP won't get its bonus either.

Even if Carmilla's bonus damage doesn't trigger, it still really hurts the enemy, heals herself, and buffs her ATK. And it's single-target so you don't have to worry about killing the Nobus and giving the boss more chances to attack.
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>>123760592
What is this argument even aout?
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>>123760505
I am pretty sure the only reason there was a 3 star is because there is no 1 or 2 stars in saber clas
Brace for Arash one day
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>>123760464
If it has an effect on him, then it can kill him, or it won't do anything to him. That's how God Hand works. It's a different type of immortality.
So either he gets poisoned and it doesn't do shit, or he gets poisoned and eventually dies from it, dies, comes back to life immune.
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>>123760592
>Servant's NPs can be radically different from their real life counterpart depending on how the story of the servant is passed around.
And there is literally no way to know unless it's outright stated. Unless it's stated otherwise, it works the same way.

>Artoria’s abilities rose when having Kiritsugu as Master. Her LCK status decreased since even Kiritsugu still could not provide sufficient magical energy, as a result the status was affected by the Master's way of life. When having Rin as a Master, Artoria was able to unleash her original abilities without being affected by the Master.
>Artoria was able to unleash her original abilities
>her original abilities
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>>123760618
I have no idea how people think it's anti rider.
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>>123760640
If it were Arash, it would be super easy. Clear first wave, clear second wave, kill adds. Arash NP, use master dodge. Doubt they would ever do that
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>>123760640
Well, we already have Arash in the 10 AP, so we might end up with Robin or something instead.

We could get Nobu for that boss, but I'm expecting her in the final quest.
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>>123760637
I think the original argument before that was if Lancelot would have access to EAM while he was alive, which I think is silly because EAM is suppose to be a representation of his renown for being the most skilled.

I'm just trying to say that servants skills in their lives are different from what they showcase as servants and that their skills are based off their legends rather than actual capabilities.
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>>123760732
They probably assume all Riders have Riding and forget about the two who don't. Riding IS supposed to be the defining feature of the class, after all.
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>>123760637
Someone thinks that Servants and their living counterparts are exactly the same.
Ignoring skills like Innocent Monster or NPs like Hanging Gardens.
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>>123760806
I thought that's pretty much obvious?

It's obvious how Iskander probably didn't have an RM in real life. Even the other Rider, Drake, definitely couldn't summon cannons out of nowhere.

Another good representation would be Hercules as he definitely didn't have something like God Hand when he was alive.

While some people may have had their weird shit like Gil, some wouldn't.
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>>123760817
A rider who doesn't ride is almost as strange as an archer who doesn't use bows.
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>>123760637
Started with some guy headcanon saying that his favorite Servants were unrivaled in terms of skill even though they didn't have EAM to prove it.

>>123760674
>If it has an effect on him, then it can kill him, or it won't do anything to him.
It can HARM him.

>So either he gets poisoned and it doesn't do shit, or he gets poisoned and eventually dies from it
Nothing indicates the poison was enough to kill him. You can have AIDS and be miserable but AIDS won't be the reason of your death.
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>>123760914
Aren't there more Archers who don't use a bow?
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>>123760732
>>123760817
>>123760914
>Reading some godawful piece of shit site for info

Cirno + SS has everything you need
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god bless Medea for carrying me through this quest.
you earned your last ascension
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>>123760925
Dunnow what you two are blabbering about, but Hercules did die from poison so it may actually be more effective than normal.
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>>123760912
>Another good representation would be Hercules as he definitely didn't have something like God Hand when he was alive.
>Directly going against canon
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>>123760969
Guess where this came from.
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>>123760719
Original abilities is pretty vague. It can mean her peak abilities as a servant or her abilities as a human.

Nasu hasn't really made it super clear on what people were capable of in the past and I feel like he has suggested that some servants were pretty OP while alive, but I don't have any quotes to check if they were ambiguous like this statement. On the other hand, Nasu also goes out of the way to express how much servants are beyond human capabilities and how heroes get buffs when summoned as a servant, so obviously their capabilities don't match the living standard. Which goes back to my original point.

>Servant's NPs can be radically different from their real life counterpart depending on how the story of the servant is passed around.

Servants are powered by their legends, that's been a pretty consistent point with the franchise since FSN. They aren't literal reincarnations of the heroes, but representatives summoned for the war. Their abilities are based off the legend not fact and given how outrageous servant's abilities in their setting, the simple solution is the assume that the source of legends simply didn't have the same capabilities are the summoned servants.
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>>123761016
I dunnow what you're talking about, anon but that's how it is in actual canon, as in Greek canon. I'm pretty sure he couldn't come back to life 12 times after his labors were completed.

Correct me if I'm wrong though.
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>>123761039
Okay, Cirno really should know better
At least SS is correct
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>>123760806
>>123760912
>Samefagging
Not only are you making the same mistakes (thinking EAM is KoH), but you are also making the same mistake of saying Herc didn't have God Hand in life when the contraty was already confirmed.

At least try to be less obvious next time.
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>>123761012
The point I'm trying to make is since he died from poison, that means he didn't have God Hand when he was living, but just immortality that we usually understand Herc to have in non-Nasuverse context.

>>123760925
Pretty sure God Hand's thing is making it so he can't be harmed by anything but something with the capability of killing him.
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>>123761080
Nasuverse Herc had God Hand, Atalanta confirms.
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>>123761089
And how does that contradict what anon said about the NP being anti-riding instead of anti-rider when almost everyone who didn't know what they are talking about thought it was the latter?
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>>123761208
It doesn't
I was only making it a point that only shit sites would mistake riding skill for rider class
Because the bonus also works on Sabers with Riding skill
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>>123761174
Didn't know that. Sounds stupid though.

>>123761109
Wrong. Calm your tits.
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>>123761292
Those people who mixes them up most probably didn't even check anything. They just thought riding = rider.
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>>123761059
>Nasu also goes out of the way to express how much servants are beyond human capabilities and how heroes get buffs when summoned as a servant
What part of ORIGINAL ABILITIES can't you understand? You got wrecked already, just drop it.

>Servant's NPs can be radically different from their real life counterpart depending on how the story of the servant is passed around.
The same unless stated otherwise.

>the simple solution is the assume
Assuming = headcanon.
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>>123760925
It started with you saying that no Servant can be the most skilled in the era unless they have EAM, which is just ridiculous.
Not every charismatic Servant has charisma, not every tactical one had military tactics, not every divine one had divinity, not every brave one has bravery.
Skills aren't a list of, this is a Servants description and traits and that's final, its a collection of some of them.
Fucking Lancelot qualifies for some skills he doesn't have.
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>>123760817
Most Sabers also have Riding (except Alter Saber). And Caesar even counts as Divine.
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>>123761174
I'll concede to that point then. Herc having god hand is fair enough because of him being in the age of gods so servant power levels were actually reasonable.
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>>123760719
Servants can have abilities they didn't have in life not that everyone's abilities is different from when they're alive.
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>>123761059
And then you have fucking Gil, where every overpowered ability of his was invented out of whole cloth by Nasu and has nothing to do with his original legend.
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>>123761538
>>123761174
>>123761080
>>123761016
>>123760912
Nasuverse Hercules, in life, has given an immortal body for completing the 12 labours. As a Servant, he is not summoned with an immortal body for obvious reasons, and it instead manifests as a representation of immortality that we know as God Hand, with resistance and 12 revivals from the labours.
Living Hercules immortal body is different to that of Servant Hercules.
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>>123761656
If vanilla Greek immortality is that OP why isn't Artemis sturdier.
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>>123760719
>>123761540

Servants can change based on legend/myth/famous acts/what people thought of them etc.

Everyone associated Vlad with the monster known as Dracula. Boom, he's now capable of turning into the actual fictional Vampire(not Nasu-verse Vampires) when summoned as a Servant.
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>>123761723
Well they couldn't make her literally unkillable in game, it would break the balance
>inb4 what balance
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>>123761723
She didn't exactly do 12 labors, anon.
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>>123761723
Well, she has 14k+ hp and a def buff skill
That's something
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>>123761656
His immortal body is represented by the fact that he cannot take damage from anything that is lower than A-rank attack/NP.

Anything A-rank or above is already considered more than Impossible feats, if not God-like feats.
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>>123761804
Heracles' 12 labors earned him what Artemis had since she was born.

Achilles' immortality is also super OP and it's a shitty version of the immortality the gods had.
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>>123761474
>It started with you saying that no Servant can be the most skilled in the era unless they have EAM, which is just ridiculous.
It's not, if you are, you get EAM, if you aren't, you don't. It's that simple.

You wanting Servants to get personal skills they don't have because you THINK they qualify is both ridiculous and laughable.
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>>123761579
Well, Ea, who made sword of rupture, was also known as Enki, whose lineage can be traced to Gil, as far as I know.

So, technically, Gil could've had his sword.
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>>123761847
>making a knockoff sword and turning it into an explosive arrow is a godlike feat
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>>123760952
>9 Archers that use bows
Emiya
Robin Hood
Atalanta
Euryale
Arash
Orion
Arjuna
Chiron
Gilgamesh(Prototype)

>5 Archers that don't use bows
Emiya
Gilgamesh
David
Nobunaga
Tesla
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Welp in 4 tries with my farming team I only been able to beat the 40 ap quest once, I guess I'll shift to the 30ap.

Pity I can't use my main team for farming
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>>123761461
>What part of ORIGINAL ABILITIES can't you understand? You got wrecked already, just drop it.

Original abilities is ambiguous because of the nature of a servant. Servants are different from the heroes they represent because they are summoned copies that have to be forced into a class which adjusts their stats and access abilities which are further modified by the quality of the summoning/master/etc. Original abilities could mean the abilities from the initial summoning without nerfs from masters, or it could mean the original ability as a hero.

In the case of FSN it could be referring to before Master nerfs, which would make the most sense given the context as it is effectively bringing Saber back to the status of "The Strongest Servant" that she was not showing at all during FSN.
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>>123761656
>I don't like how it works so I will just think my headcanon is what counts.
Sure, I'm sure you know more than Atalanta, anon.
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>>123761947
Why is Emiya on both lists.
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>>123761947
David and Nobunaga, despite not using bows, do use ranged weapons that would be equivalent. No idea what will they give to Tesla. Gilgamesh and Emiya are really just powers that throw weapons at the enemy.
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>>123761847
That is part of it, the other part is the revivals.
His living durability was not rank based, Rin proves that any magus with enough raw material can create an A rank attack, and the magi Herc knew were far more skilled then Rin.
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>>123761946
Emiya abuses the system, that's what he does for a living.
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>>123761902
Servants don't necessarily have all their skills from life. The class system cuts shit out pretty frequently. So you can qualify for EAM but not get it.
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Who's the best 4* Archer: Arrows, Bullets or Swords?
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>Clear the 40ap 3 times = 51 spiders
>Clear the 30ap 4 times = 20/36 spiders
It would cost me 30 apples to get everything that i want.
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>>123762112
Need stars? Atalanta.
If not: Nobu
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>>123762007
>Also, if the magic energy of the Master is powerful, the Servant will become closer to his strength as in the legend
You also clearly haven't read GoA.
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>>123761946
Well creating a replica of a legendary weapon and then modifying it into an even more powerful projectile would be a godlike display of swordsmithing skill wouldn't it? Emiya is literally the greatest swordsmith to have ever lived.
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>>123762060
>raw materials

That's not how Rin's jewels works.
Rin stores her own prana into the jewels. Not every third rate magus has Rin's prana stock.
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>>123762207
Legend and real life status are different
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>>123762219
That's not how Broken Phantasm does.

Emiya replicates a knock-off = It comes out with one-rank lowered.

Emiya uses Broken Phantasm = Fills it with prana to make it into an One-time nuke, gets a rank-up. Weapon is destroyed afterwards.

Repeat.
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Considering how mana burst works why is Arturia's strength ranked at B rather than E++?
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When will we get Jesus or an apostle? or someone from the OT like Moses who has been referenced through that shitty 3* CE.

I want rider Elijah.
>Fire nuke
>Free food brought by Ravens
>Best Prophet which is an even more broken version of what Jeanne has
>Ressurecting someone

Of course he turns out to be a loli somehow.
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>>123762017
Unlike someone, I can back myself up.
Apocrypha describes Herc ad having an immortal, unharmable and frankly overpowered body.
FSN goes into the ranking and resistance and revival.
At no point in Apocrypha, or anywhere else, is it said that Hercules could revive from killing blows and be resistant to them afterwards. That's a very stand out detail, but the only description is that he is immortal and untouchable in the real legends.
If you have a citation where Chrion or Atalanta mention his Servant God Hand aspects please, post them.
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>>123762157
How many stars does Atalanta produce from one Quick card?

Nobu gets like 8-10 stars from one quick.
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>>123762086
The only skills that change most of the time are class skills.
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>>123762241
True, but Age of the Gods magi were not third rate.
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>>123762409
>Nobu
>2 hit Quick
>8 stars
Yea
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>>123762327
Emiya doesn't necessarily have to Break NPs when turning them into projectiles as evidenced by him using one immediately against Caster rather than charging it up.
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>>123762409
>>123762526
Fuck, meant Okita.
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>>123762589
Okita gets like 12
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>>123762407
He also had the Nemean Lion's pelt which may have added to his durability.
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>>123762589
Okita produces more stars than Atalanta with Quicks, but Atalantas NP gives a shitload
Atalana NP + 2 Nobu Quicks = 90 Stars
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>>123762563
Yeah but this is a discussion vs Herc. Emiya needs to spam broken Phantasm against Herc.
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If Shirou traced Assassin's sword would he be able to use Tsubame Gaeshi?
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The spider drops are not going up at all right?
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>>123762407
>No one could scratch him in life after he got God Hand
>Wants someone to trigger the second effect of God Hand
Someone here is way too fucking stupid.
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>>123762714
If he was really good friends with him
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>>123762112
>>123762157
Use both arrows and bullets. Arrows produces stars, bullets uses them.
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>>123762463
>>123762086
>>123761902
There are examples of personal skills being not given though.
Like Battle Continuation and Disengage for the Cus.
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>>123762817
Caster Cu has Disengage. There is no way to know if they got cut either unless another class shows it.
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>Only 200k HP
Can I still make it?
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>>123762985
Like Battle Continuation?
Or Gilles?
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>>123763239
%?
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>More than 70k FP a day
I going to miss this event.
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>>123762756
A rank attacks are abundant in Hercs time period. Monsters and heroes and Age of the Gods magic.
Atalanta can shoot out A rank attacks with a bow, and Hercules fought much stronger enemies then her after his labours.
He is described as having a truly immortal body that was never wounded despite the divine spawn and demigods he battled.
Meanwhile, Herc in FSN is frequently injured, once from just a sheer prana attack.
Again, find a single implication that the multiple conditions for his God Hand existed in his life, because there really is nothing.
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>>123763376
What the hell? Even with Okita+Medusa I'm not getting that much.
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>>123763239
Grind for items and get 3 copies of the Gudao CE before the 1AP starts shitting out loads of points. You'll be fine if you already have a friend Okita with Gudao CE for the +130% on the support slot.
>>
Fug
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>>123761902
This game loves this give servants personal traits they didn't have in their original appearance.

Look at Casko
>Fox's Wedding
wat

And Drake
>Golden Rule
Makes sense but she didn't have this skill back in Extra.
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So Nasu constantly cites Emiya as the only Heroic Spirit to have ever come after whatever cutoff point in time there is for Heroic Spirits even if he did get there by making a deal with Alaya and becoming a Counter Guardian.

But doesn't this make Emiya even more of a special snowflake? In all the centuries to come Emiya was literally the only person that Alaya bothered to make a deal with to become a Counter Guardian? What's so special about him?
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>>123763431
What is yours Okita level? mine is level 90.
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>>123763571
Oh, a whale. Not surprised
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>>123763571
Around 30. Should I be spending apples to farm exp for her?
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>>123763561
He was probability the only one dumb enough to make a deal with Alaya
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>>123763538
Fox's Wedding is the Japanese counterpart of Monkey's Wedding, which means Sun Shower. She was Amaterasu afterall.
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>>123763561

Alaya wants to join his harem.
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>>123763616
>100% F2P.
It doesn't take much to get her to 90 if you already have the materials
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>>123763561
Emiya is an eroge protagonist. Alaya couldn't help it
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>>123763561
>>123763746
It was watching the high jump
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>>123763770
Yea, the materials are not the problem. But the EXP. You would need like 10 apples just for 80->90
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>>123763561
He could handle Gilgamesh by himself.
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>>123763561
Nasu never planned on using Servants so much. Emiya being super special is easier to believe when the next earliest Servsnt died 500 years ago instead of 60.
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>>123763561
How are the other Counter Guardians came to be then?
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>>123763538
Seems to only apply to 5 stars when they don't have enough for 3 actives. Lancelot and Martha are 4 stars and were still left with 2 actives, nothing added.
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Higher master level cap fucking when?
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>>123763882
We will find out when we meet more in depth.
So never.
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>>123763886
Yep, so they have to come up with shit to balance it out.

5-stars are now (aside from vanilla) also required to have unique animations.
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>>123763561
Alaya is a pretty feminine name. She probably wanted to fuck him.

Also there *has* to be more Guardians for the future, just by statistics, right? Doesn't a character from Mahoyo reach the Root and have a run in with (presumably) a Guardian who shows up to gank people who would use True Magic to fuck over humanity? So I have heard anyway. I guess that could be a random dude from the past, though.

Unless Emiya really is the only future one. We know Arturia managed to weasel her way out of Guardian duty so there are some pats ones I guess. I wonder if we'll come across any more would-be heroic Spirits that opted to be Guardians instead.
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>>123763384
>A rank attacks are abundant in Hercs time period.
Doesn't seem like it considering no one could scratch him.

There is no need to find implications of him having God Hand either, it's the other way around. Implications of him not having God Hand are needed. There is no default reason of why he would have it as a Servant and not as he was alive.
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>>123763561
There might be more Counter Guardians, but they don't qualify as Heroic Spirits. Or maybe they do qualify, but there is literally no way to summon them in present time because there is no catalyst. Emiya was a special case.

I think it just means he hasn't thought about heroes from the future besides Emiya back then.
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>>123763812
It took me 3 apples and 1 level up
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>>123764028
From 1->90 or 80->90?
How many super/great success did you have?
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>>123763882
Easy, they came before the temporal cutoff point.

Maybe some Ancient Greek schmucks here and there who were pretty handy with the blade but couldn't get a footnote in the history books.
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>>123763886
Siegfried.
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Why is Gil the only servant with only 1 Buster animation? Others have multiple Buster animations.
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>>123764210
Even the ones with caster like animation?
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>>123764098
> 80>90
On total it took me 15 apples so i might have rushed a little.but she is my only 5* so can you blame me?
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>>123763962
Well, there is one in the Mahoyo, as far as I know.
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>>123764341
Nah, not blaming you. Just wanted to know how many Apples I would need. Well, I still have to wait for the Saber EXP daily
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>>123764006
I've told you in depth why, and many examples of Servants with altered abilities compared to life have been mentioned in this thread.
Every Greek Servant we've seen has been capable of an A rank attack, and the person calling him untouchable herself could shoot A rank arrows just by strength.
You aren't giving me any sources because they all support my argument, because I'm right.
You can deny it all you want but that won't make me wrong.
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>>123764210
Okita also only has one Buster animation technically.
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>>123763531
I've already got 3 CE drops, all XP.
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>>123764508
HONNOUJI MATA HARI CONFIRMED MOST DANGEROUS ASSASSIN
WHO /HARI/ HERE
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>>123763934
Replace Emiya with Benkei and you're golden.
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>>123764508
Is there a collection with all of these in?
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>>123764680
No idea, just found it myself on 2ch
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Daily report on base HP from new 1AP. Up 700 from yesterday. I think we need a new approach to finding patterns in this.
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>tfw you don't have to buy those thing one by one.
Anyone who just started playing won't ever understand our suffering.
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>>123764510
>I've told you in depth why, and many examples of Servants with altered abilities compared to life have been mentioned in this thread.
That's their reasons, not Hercs. Their reasons were explained. Herc has in no way been mentioned to not having God Hand in life.

>You aren't giving me any sources because they all support my argument, because I'm right.
Actually, you are wrong. There are no sources that state Herc didn't have God Hand, meaning he had it.

>You can deny it all you want but that won't make me wrong.
But you are wrong, nothing indicates he didn't have it.
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>>123764662

I wish i could. I ended swapping the poster girl with a Gudao and left Ushi without CEs for the 1 AP daily.
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>>123764775
Anyone that just started playing suffer by can't do anything in this event.
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>>123764770
Alright, it's more than official now.
Never use logic to understand DW, you will only get fucked up in the brain
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>>123764510
>the person calling him untouchable herself could shoot A rank arrows just by strength.
Atalanta STR is D and both her NPs are below A.
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>>123764770
>Up 700
What the fuck, if this continues to just keep going up by exponential amounts, we'll get to 1M points just by doing these
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>>123764770
Scratch everything then, that's 100 more than yesterday right?
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>>123763934
>DW showers you with CE every fucking event
>you can't even use them because you go over cost, unless you are a bimbo with a team full of 3* servants
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>>123764770
On which acc are you doing these? And why don't Nobu on it?
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>wake up
>"ok time to farm"
>assassin daily so forced to bring Tamamo
>360 down to 320
>still get more honnoji points

So the difficulty went up a bit and the HP reward too?

What about the 1AP
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>>123764918
That comic is absolute bullshit.
Vlad NP is Arts.
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>>123764626
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>>123764510
>many examples of Servants with altered abilities compared to life have been mentioned in this thread.
I don't think Liz and Vlad count as "many".
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>>123764770
Maybe they didn't think up a function for the drop numbers but instead just hand-made a table. That way it would make sense that there's no proper pattern to it. Maybe they haven't even decided the drop numbers ahead of time but are making them up each day.
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>>123765047
So basically just winging it.
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>>123765021
So?
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I wonder if DW is literally wanting us to use the cheat apk. They are literally forcing us to use trash Servants while increasing the difficulty.
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>Finally reached 500k points
Only 1 million to go
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>>123764781
>literally just giving up, ignoring points and going no you are wrong
Next time try argue a side you can support.
I'm sure I will see you attempting to push your view in some argument in another thread.
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>>123765078
The Delight Works/Type-Moon way!
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>>123764890
She explicitly can shoot A rank attacks.
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>>123765047
>making them up each day
That does sound like something DW would do, yes.
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>>123765035
Semiramis.
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>>123765110
>tfw only around 458k
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>>123765229
3 isn't many either. All of them have been explained to be different than in life too, unlike Heracles.
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>only Okita friend uses Kaleidoscope

Suffering.
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>>123765035
Everyone with Innocent Monster
Semi
Jeanne
Gilles
Zero Hassan
Iskander
Drake
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>>123765190
Equivalent to A =/= A. This was explained by Saber.
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>>123765378
Does he have NP5?
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>>123765312
>lvl 7 before event, 27 now
>just reached 100k

Now I just need 3 of those fuckskulls.
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>>123765110
Man, I've been grinding pots nonstop and managed to get all I need of them in just a day. ALmost bought everything I can with them. Just need to grab the exp cards and I can ignore the 10 AP forever.
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>>123765389
Semi doesn't have innocent monster. She is elfish because she's a Half God and her mom is an ocean Goddess thus why she has Scales when defending herself
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Run with 440%. Fuck QP.

Drops are improving, though. We're up 10k from a few days ago but as others have said DW seems to be doing this at random so who knows where they're gonna go with it.
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>>123765416
Sadly, no. Most probably use it because he can't power through the new 40AP without it.
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>>123765110
>tfw only 270k
I don't think I'm even going to get enough time to buy out the materials.
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>>123765482
You are annoyed by free QP? Are you goddamn retarded? Fucking everyone gets the QP you trashhead
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>>123765130
Anon, you are the one trying to push your headcanon.

You gave up so hard, that you completely ignored the original point. Your point was that Herc and others were unrivaled without having EAM, saying Herc didn't have immortality in life, which was completely shut down a few comments after that.

Considering the fact that you got destroyed, you attempted to derail the discussion, saying Herc didn't have God Hand while showing nothing to support this, then after you knew your argument had nothing to stand up, you decided to declare yourself winner.
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>>123765473
Not that anon, but I think you read it as
>Everyone with Innocent Monster
And
>Semi
And etc.
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DW is literally fucking retarded holy shit
>restrict people to use trash units or RR only units for an event
>increase the difficulty of the event gradually so even trash units become unusable
>have a hard cap on team cost so you can't even equip the SSR CE's in order to get the most of it if you decide to do it with non trash units
Jesus christ I wish the Chinese would just wreck them again
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>>123765389
Marie, Euryale, Stheno, Benkei, Nero, Nobunaga, Chevalier, Shakespeare, Carmilla, Jack
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>>123764839
Our main mistake was just looking at the total. We need to look at each drop.

Each drop can either be a 1000 or a 300. Amount of drops vary, but I guess the max is 18 (2 per mob per 3 mobs per 3 floors).

On days it increased by 300, they added one 300 drop. On days it increased by 600, they added two 300 drops. Today it increased by 700, which means they replaced a 300 drop with a 1000 drop.

We can't predict what they'll do each day, but let me offer the following: If they can give a total of 18 drops, and the biggest drop is 1000, that means the highest total they could do is 18 000. This isn't too far from where we'd get if we just drew out a growth curve based on our current average growth. I can see them gradually adding drops and replacing 300 with 1000, until we get to 18 000.
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>>123765389
>All of them explicitly stated to be different
>Herc isn't
Your point?
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>>123765473
I was referring to the Gardens.
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>>123765625
>whine because game is too easy
>they make it hard
>whine because game is too hard
I'll agree about the CEs though. The time limit's bad enough.
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Mata Hari charmed Liz

Well I guess it makes sense since Lesbian Vampire myth and Liz is awfully fond of Squirrels
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And now she is complete
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daily boyz
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>>123765786
>squirrels
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>>123764983
I just ended up using a trash alt account for checking, because I couldn't be bothered waiting for an Okita+Gudao to show up on my support list.
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>>123765919
>tfw need fangs
>>
Something's very wrong here
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>>123765960
>not grinding assassin 20ap
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>>123765938
Liz nonsensical speaking
Pigs= Men
Squirrel= Women
Rabbits= Time
Read the Extra CCC translation and reach Berserker Liz. She's full blown of insanity there
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>>123765389
>Gilles, Drake, Zero Hassan, Marie, Euryale, Stheno, Benkei, Nero, Nobunaga, Shakespeare, Carmilla, Jack
Don't see how any of those even count.
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>>123765334
You just have to use your head

F/SN
Rider -I find it hard to believe that she actually rode Pegasus. It's never mentioned in the myth nor is her servant form even her true form.Basically anyone with Innocent Monster.

Medea- I don't even know where Ruru Breaker came from

Avenger- It's his whole shtick

Extra
Nero- This was an actual thing. Not something the real Nero did
Tamamo- One tail
Drake- Ditto with her NP.
Nursery Rhyme- Dunnow if this is considered.
Arc- I think the actual Arc was summoned? Dunnow
Vlad- There being two Vlads is proof enough

2 lazy to think of others.
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>>123765919
>turn feetfags into whales
Takeuchi is a mad genius.
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>>123765482
it will be 9 giant golden nobu at the end of the quest
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>>123766014
I'm only at 356k senpai, haven't done the new 1Ap tho.
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>need thousands of spiders to get all the items
>they only regularly drop on the 40 ap map
>which also takes years to clear
Great stuff lads
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>>123766021
All of them have skills or nps they didn't have in life.
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>>123766128
>not using cheat apk to farm this crapfest
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>TFW still at 290k
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>>123765919
Have you maxed her NP and Skills?
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>>123766050
Does apples count as whaling?
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>>123766032
>You just have to use your head
You mean HEADcanon? Yeah. Most of them besides Avenger and Vlad don't count, you are just making shit up in your head without any proof. As for the ones that actually count, they are straight up say they work different. You can't apply that to everyone when they are stated to be different to the rule.

And Nursery Rhyme didn't even fucking exist.
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>>123765402
It damaged AoF.
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>>123766146
Like? You aren't applying actual real life rules to Nasuverse rules, are you anon? Do you think Francis Drake was a girl with pink hair and big tits?
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>>123766301
>No
But she is at max level and fous so as far as i'm concerned she is complete.
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>>123766018
I thought you said squirrels to imply she likes cunts, another word for small furry animals.

Granted maybe that's what they were going for ?
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>>123766364
AoF doesn't work like God Hand. Karna could damage AoF despite having nothing A and only equivalents too.
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>>123766420
Regardless of her gender, Drake couldn't magically summon her fleet and its cannons out of nowhere, even while on land.
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>>123766535
Achilles have B+ and boosted by Bravery and he can't damage Siegfried.
>>
how do you think you'll do on the level 80 archer 40 AP when it comes around
there's only 1 gold lancer in the game, and even if you use cu and proto cu, their stats are still 3* level so you'll be in for a grind
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>>123766327
Well, anon, all these characters exist outside of Nasuverse. You do realize you have burden of proof, right?

I really don't understand your point, anon. A lot of the skills and NPs have descriptions that imply how their legend and belief in them have given them this skill or ability.
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>>123766435
What's the max amount of fous you can feed a servant? Haven't been focusing on feeding anyone fous but I have several hundred prisms so I want to max Okita.
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>>123766647
I'll just skip it
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This is the most important could get with bonuses. How about everyone else?
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>>123766535
Karna is "I'm Karna so fuck the rules", so they do A-rank damage because he's that good + his divine spear.
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>>123766662
20 of each
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>>123766032
>Rider
Pegasus was born from Medusa's blood. The name Bellerophon is the name of the hero that rode it.
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>>123766719
'I' auto correcting to 'Important'. What the hell, phone?
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>>123766779
It was a gift from now non-rapist Poseidon in the Nasuverse. The legend still exists, so she uses blood to summon it.
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>>123766750
Thanks, senpai. Maxing Okita's ATK
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>>123766825
turn off auto-correct and auto complete word senpai
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>>123766719
About the same with +390%.
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>>123766719
With 420% I get about 34,000 something, probably 34,500.
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>>123766420
Most of the genderbends try to explain it at least.

Drake was hinted to be the queen and pink hair is an animu staple.

Saber's tale doesn't really change whether he/she is a boy or a girl and 14 year old girls can look like boys anyways.

Atilla. Who the fuck knows what happened there. I'm pretty sure the rainbow dildo sword is enough to make you not take that seriously.
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>>123766874
Fair enough, lil kohai.
>>
Got 2 4* Servants in the past three days (Lanc and Liz) but no Okita.

Kill me.
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>>123766842
>Nasu completely fucking up the actual source for his convenience again
I blame the purityfags.
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>>123766652
>all these characters exist outside of Nasuverse
And that's irrelevant.

>You do realize you have burden of proof, right?
You are the one claiming they work different as a Servant than when they were alive in Nasuverse.
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>>123766891
You do know that its rainbow because Charlemagne's sword?
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>>123766719
Little under 37k with 460%.
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>>123766719
Got a little over 33k with 400%
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>>123764626
>that fucking charm every turn
More like a fucking slut.
>>
stop eating the bread so fast damn
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>>123766891
>Saber's tale doesn't really change whether he/she is a boy or a girl and 14 year old girls can look like boys anyways.
A lot changed actually. The whole thing with Lancelot, how Mordred was born, CG Dragon, and more.

>I'm pretty sure the rainbow dildo sword is enough to make you not take that seriously.
No excuses.
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>>123767073
But it is a really tasty bread.is way too hard to stop.
Please bake another for us senpai.
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>>123766978
Why? Medusa is definitely a slut. I think it's more because he wanted her evil side to stem from something else other than being cursed.
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>>123767006
Yeah but it's still a stupid design.

>>123766998
It's pretty much stated numerous times. When they are servants, they're not as strong as they're actual forms.

I never even said that. My point is that NPs, skills, and the servants themselves (Physically like Hans and possibly mentally) are shaped by the beliefs of the people.

I just entered this discussion. What is your point being, anon?
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>>123767196
Lancelots story is exactly the same apart from the insanity
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>>123767196
Kinda weird Lancelot and Guinevere fucked each other because they couldn't get Arthur to fuck them
REALLY.WEIRD
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>>123767474
>Lancelot wanted to fuck Arturia
>this meme again
>>
New thread where?
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>>123767623
Wanted to get fucked by Artoria.
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>>123767623
>I can't come up with an argument
>better greentext and call it a meme
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>>123766719
420% bonus. Hope this helps
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>>123767623
Lancelot was the worst Arturiafag, accept it
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>>123767623
Deep down, he probably did. Most people unconscionably want to fuck Saber. Even most-likely-gay Issei. Lancelot probably even more so because Guin told him Saber was a grill.
>>
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Semiramis NP is either going to be Hanged Gardens (AOE Damage+Self Buff?) or Poison Snake Zerg Rush
Both are good. Double Poison with Robin would make her Godly thought. Specially if she's AAA
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>>123767929
>>123767929
>>123767929
>>123767929

Migrate
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>>123766889
I get ~34k with 400%. How?
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>>123766891
Neither Okita nor Nobunaga are explained in any great detail and being joke characters doesn't give them a pass.

Nero is woefully unexplained aside from being both a crossdresser and bisexual.

Ushiwakamaru is completely unexplained.

Jack the Ripper is explained at least.

Overall there are more unexplained genderbends than explained ones.
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>>123768134
Sometimes big nobus don't drop two chests.
>>
>my japanese games must have historical accuracy with relevant facts and sources to back up every single design

is this a new meme?
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What sword does Okita use as a servant?
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>>123767006
wait, what? I know nothing about Atilla's Nasuverse background
>>
>>123762723
I think the boss spiders are going up, while total number of drops is going down. I'm getting roughly the same amount from 1 rider support CE.
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