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Dueling Network General #2001
Last Thread: >>123572556

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● Remember to play-test constantly and try suggestions before you discard them, even if someone recommends a weird tech choice.
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You're all shit.
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Xth for Trash cards that suit you perfectly
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>>123667032
Reeeeeee
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Alright, after doing some testing, I've decided to stick with the Odd-Eyes Magician build.

Deciding on whether or not I'll be using Flying "C", Concealing Light, and Denko in the side deck.

Extra deck options also have Black Rose, 101, C101, and Majester Paladin.

I took out Luster Pendulum from my main deck since the lack of Pendulum Wizard means you can't pop it to rebuild your scale with Dragonpit.
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>>123667272
>>123666876
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>This game is getting too expensive! I'm quitting!
I'm amazed by people like this. Buy three of the structure on Friday and a handful of dollar cards. Now you've got a great deck for like $40.
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Is there something fair about this card?
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>>123667759
0 Def.
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>>123667759
What's supposed to be unfair?
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>>123667759
It's a Dragon instead of a Warrior.
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>Game is called Duel Monsters
>Most of the recent archetypes are Humans or robots instead of actual monsters
?????????????
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>>123668013
>Google the book that Kaiba is reading
>It's a song
what the fuck are they teaching in that school
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>>123668013
Cryptid and/or legendary creature archetype when? Imagine summoning Bigfoot.
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>>123668013
>>123668270
>Kaiba is so smart that he doesn't even bother reading normal books anymore, he reads sheet music and hears the songs in his head
what a truly enlightened duelist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rzDXNQxjHs
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>>123667338
Don't forget for him to add R4s for those clowns. He clearly needs to be told.
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>>123668505
>>123668270
He's on some next level shit
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>>123668282
The Fableds had legendary creatures like the Cerberus, Pegasus, Unicorn, Cockatrice, Kudan, etc.
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Is clownblade any good?
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Show me some Rage Quit webms. /dng/
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>>123668505
Kaiba has good taste in music.
>>123669334
No.
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>>123669404
Okay thanks for the response anon.
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>>123669334
Clownblade is proto-Pepe, so kind of. No deck on this format will ever be tourney viable without Luster Pendulum, but it's not bad.
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>>123669404
So, why haven't you switched to Uno yet?
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Is there even a deck that would make use of DMoC if it came off the list, other than Infernoids?
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>>123670169
We had a dedicated Uno team on /dng/, but the faggots at Zynga shut the Uno site down.
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>>123668270
>>123668013
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thus_Spoke_Zarathustra

Kaiba is reading neitzche
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>YCS Sao Paulo isn't even going to have any feature match articles
nice job, konami
>>123670371
Prophecys could use it, but they'd rather just use World of Prophecy typically
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>>123670371
Post-errata: Fucking nothing, it's awful now.
Pre-errata: Spellbooks, Reasoning Kozmos MAYBE
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>>123670432
>Kaiba's favorite ancient philosopher is Nietzche
Is he better or worse than Sun Tzu?
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>>123670371
Other than Noids? No. People swear up and down that DMOC isn't unbanned or unerrata'd because it'd cause some sort of loop but can't for the life of them tell you what loop is causes outside of stupid shit with D.D.R which isn't a fucking true loop because you'll always need cards to discard. These are the same people who think cards like Triber, TER, and Zenmaity should still remain banned despite having no clue on what little impact they have

Frankly Infernoids having yet another card that they could sack with would have done absolutely nothing major to the game, and if anything would have improved sales as more and more people would have crawled over themselves trying to buy packs to build Noids.
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>>123670531
>The errata changed it adding in the End Phase

You weren't kidding anon, this is awful. Why didn't anyone tell me they fucked DMoC?
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>>123670736
I bet Nietzche thought card advantage didn't matter as long you win.
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>>123669365
What the fuck. How some duelists so fucking BAD?
WHY WOULD HE FELGRAND?
WHY WOULD HE TACHYON?
WHY?

Fucking Xyz shitters, Academia did nothing wrong.
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>he hasn't switched to Hackidu
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>Is the strongest vanilla beater in the whole game
>Set the status quo that for a monster to have over 3000 atk or 2500 defense it must have some kind of drawback.
>Set the status quo that all YGO rivals must have a 3000 beater as their ace.
>Is the ace card of the best YGO rival
>Is one of the mascots of the franchise
>Is the first card ever drawn by Kazuki Takahashi, creator of Yu-gi-oh
>Is the favourite card of Kazuki Takahashi
>Very first booster pack has it as the rarest card
>Has been printed in all rarities
>Has the most alternate artworks
>Fusion of three is the strongest vanilla fusion in the game
>Evolved fusion is the strongest light monster in the whole game
>Support is printed in the exclusive KC rare
>Is the soul of qt girl
>Is on the same level as Egyptian god cards
>Is Light so lots of support
>Is a Dragon so double that support
>Has an amazing draw engine
>Has a special summon engine in Hieratics and its own deck for rank 8 degeneracy
>Is part of the glorious Synchro summoning master race and can dabble in xyz and fusion.
>Used in almost all dragon decks as generic beatdown
>Counterpart is even worthy to be compared to it.
>Got only 6 cards to make it a decent deck while its counterpart got 9 and still sucks in comparison.
>Will be one of the best petdecks of 2016 since everybody loves Kaiba and Komoney is sure to dickride him for all his worth.

Why is Blue-eyes the best dragon in this entire game?
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>>123670862
>WHY WOULD HE FELGRAND?
For a 2800 beater that can survive card effects on his opponent's turn?

>WHY WOULD HE TACHYON?

Because he lost his Felgrand and panicked probably
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/dng/ football cup is up
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>>123670862
>WHY WOULD HE FELGRAND?
It's bait to get him to waste the Rai-oh
>WHY WOULD HE TACHYON?
You seriously don't know the Galaxy-eyes OTK?
Two Blue eyes would do 6000 points.
Dark Matter + Chaos emperor + Dr.Red and Blue eyes would be over 9000 points of damage.
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>>123671260
A lot of good that did him. Why bait and then flub the OTK?
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>>123671243
Excuse me?
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>>123671516

because if he didn't Rai-Oh would have negated the summon of Dank Mater, making 2 extra deck spaces go to shit
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>DNG is 1 down after 20 seconds
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>They haven't switched to Hanafuda yet
What are you waiting for?
>>123671243
>>123671705
Link whatever the fuck you're talking about, cupcake.
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>>123671591
>>123671841
twitch / uselessnepgear

currently 1-1 against /feg/
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>>123671516
>Why bait and then flub the OTK.
Open up, time for the spoonfeeding.
The Galaxy eyes OTK requires you searching and adding back Dr.Red from EW and summoning another Dragon for gg.
Thunder King had to go but it can stop any special summon and he didn't have effect removal so he needed bait to get it to kill itself.
Once Thunder King died, He was free to play Melody for +2 Dragons, so he could overlay and Rank up into Dark Matter who will send 3 dragons from your deck to banish 3 monsters from your Opponent's deck.
The dragons to the grave will be a Light dragon, a Dark Dragon and something else.
After that he detaches Full Armor Dragon from Dark Matter and summons CED and EW returns Dr.Red which he summons by banishing CED and Dr.Red brings back full armor for -10800 off his opponent.
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>>123671516
>flub the OTK
Well the guy kinda fucking quit before he had a chance to OTK him so.....
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>>123671913
>feg

Soo, worst two generals in a deathmatch to the death.
Cool.
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>blaster ;( carrying the team
all according to keikaku
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>>123672073

The Light dragons sent to graveyard through Dank Matter effect are not random dragons, remember, first target should be Eclipse Wyvern to search for whatever combo piece you're missing
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>>123672515
He never even implied that the Dragons sent by Dark Matter would be random, and it should go without saying that if you're sending a bunch of shit from your deck, then at least one of those shits should be Eclipse, which he didn't need to send if you bothered looking at the webm where he had already sent an Eclipse from his hand

Honestly your input was wholly unnecessary. You're the type who just likes to see themselves type
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>>123672654

He said "something else" and if that person doesn't understand why he baited Thunder King with Felgrand that means he most likely doesn't know about Eclipse Wyvern existence
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>>123672773
>>123672073
Ok I was under the impression that the BEWD player was the one that Rage Quit. I've never seen webms where the quitter was the POV.

I knew the combo but I thought the dragon guy fucked up somehow and quit.
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>>123672773
>He said "something else"
That literally doesn't contradict what I said where you implied that he was saying to send random shit from your deck. Again, your input there was wholly unnecessary because if you bothered watching the Webm, you would have seen that he had ALREADY sent Wyvern to the graveyard and if that idiot couldn't put two and two together as to why a fucking Mega Foolish w/ 4k attack for no reason isn't a good situation to send Eclipse Wyvern to the fucking graveyard, then no amount of spoonfeeding would have helped him figure it out

Again, not even the same guy, but your input wasn't necessary and pointing out obvious shit isn't going to help anyone actually get better at this shitty game
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>>123673112

Your whole post is unnecessary as well.
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Since we're on Chaos Dragons, When will Dr.Red be put at three so Chaos can finally be at full power?
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>>123673430
I remember fondly the GX days when this motherfucker was at 3. Those days were good to me, anon.
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>>123673430
They can't bring REDMD to 3 if they don't want Hieratics constantly OTKing
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feg got rekt.

>>123673719
Nothing wrong with a bit of fun and OTKs.
Everything just needs to run 3x Maxx "C" and MOR and we'll be just fine
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>>123673430
I miss that REDMD + Lightpulsar two-piece combo. Everything was so simple.
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>>123671841
>You can open the Moon OR the sake, or both since they apparently didn't take either one of them
Your hand is broke, man.
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>Uno, Go Fish, and Hanafuda all take more skill than YGO
What card games actually take less skill than Yugioh?
War? Vanguard maybe? I don't even know.
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>>123672425
is /dng/ playing the friendlies? I am not watching the stream
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>>123674775
/dng/ savaged /feg/.
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>>123673368
Your whole life is unnecessary
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>>123674973
sмh tbн faм
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>>123674971
great, can't wait for the league to start and see /dng/ get its 3rd star
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>>123673430
I say do it, let the game descend into the madness that is OTK vs OTK even further.

Unban Sixth Sense as well.
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>>123677442
>Unban Sixth Sense
Some people just want to watch the world burn, I guess.
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>>123677442
Well if we're going all the way
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>>123677595
>>123677442
Synchro Brionac
Pot of +1
All @ 3.
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>>123677689
Why is Pot of Greed banned anyways?
What does the card even do?
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Buy Magical Springs. You heard it here first.
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This guy wouldn't be so bad if there were more Super Quantum support cards because to use its grave effect, you'll probably wind up having to use Super Quantum monsters (or the Field Spell) more often than not which can get you anything from a moderately helpful +1 to absolutely nothing on the off chance that the extra draw will be more helpful than whatever you discarded.

Also, Blue Layer should've let you draw an extra card after shuffling whatever amount you did into the deck when she's sent to the grave.
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Should Gem-Knight Seraphinite be hit?
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>>123677828
Pot of Greed is banned because it both limits deck space (because why the fuck wouldn't you run a free +1), promotes sacking and benefits better decks more than it benefits worse ones.
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>>123670736
sauce?
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>>123679972
You only need 1 and NO. Honestly if they reprint Ghost Ogre I could even see FuFu coming back at 1. It's cancerous when you don't have any turn one options to deal with it but nowadays there are so many ways to cope.

Milling creates degenerate original decks. The keyword is original. You don't have to rely on archetypes to make good decks when milling is strong. Konami bans milling because they've created too many ways to plus from the grave and instead of dialing back the grave effects they just limit anything that mills.
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>>123679972

nope, Brilliant Fusion is the thing that allows the faggotry. But a Fusion that pays for itself it's not that big of a deal on pendulum era where you can arguably go +2 or even more every turn and your deck still loses.
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>4 Duelists remain undefeated! The Top 32 tables are playing Kozmo, Performapal/Performage, Majespecters, HERO, ‘tellarknights, PSY-Frame, Burning Abyss, Infernoid, Yang Zing and Performapal/Majespecter.
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>>123680665
The main problem is that you can just mill Damage Juggler or Trick Clown for degenerate combo starters.
It's a Foolish that gives you an extra normal summon.
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>>123680848

thing is, Brilliant will fade into irrelevancy, first with the structure deck and once bosh comes it will finally die.
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>>123667336
Odd-Eyes Magicians run Monkeyboard shittia
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>>123670958
I hope the new support comes to TCG relatively soon
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>>123670736
>reverse search turns up an /r/ thread
RIP
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McDuffie just 5-0'd Desmond with Clown Artifact Traptrix lmao
Rip PePe
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>>123681841
>Desmond
Is that the scrub who follows Hoban? If so, he was probably using a bad build
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Where are people watching Sao Paulo? I can't seem to find it.
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>>123682878
Have you tried google?
They're not posting any Feature match articles anyways, it's just the standings.
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>>123682902
Voted for Igknightfernity.
Post you are name too, I really want to watch if you're on DN.
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r8, dont h8, any advice for side-deck would be apreciated, just came back to dueling after a long hiatus.
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>>123683181
Sort that shit
Jesus Christ man
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>>123683181
Fuck Synchron, and sort that shit.
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sorted, r8, dont h8, any advice for side-deck would be apreciated.
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>>123683181
>crush card
>veiler
>gorz
>maxx "c"
>running plants without lonefire
>junk gardna
>junk archer
>no synchron carrier
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>>123682878
Not being streamed like usual I believe. Only articles of Feature Matches and Top performing decks
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>>123683747
can you elaborate on crushcard,veiler,maxxc and lonefire? the only plants i have are bulb and dandylion.
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>>123683181
Play Synchro Fusions. From what I've played with it it's a neat little combo deck that has some play ability in this format since the guy who piloted it was able to get 17th at a Regional. Since you seem to love Synchros it'll be a good way for you to guide yourself back into the game, without doing incredibly boring shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clEXOZEk9kw

Don't expect to fucking crack the code or anything, chill out on that shit, but here's a fun deck you can play that isn't *complete* garbage that'll suit your playstyle
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>>123683992
Crush Card isn't worth running.
Maining both Veiler and Maxx when your engine requires good hands to plus is asking for a brick.
Dandylion isn't really worth running if you don't have ways to special summon it.
>>123684030
How much does gem knight shit cost now?
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>>123683032
>>123683987
Alright thanks
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>>123684215
A blumpkin
http://yugiohprices.com/card_price?name=Brilliant+Fusion
http://yugiohprices.com/card_price?name=Gem-Knight+Seraphinite
http://yugiohprices.com/card_price?name=Gem-Knight+Garnet
We should seriously just put Yugioh prices into the fucking beginning of the thread, it's really not that hard
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>>123684215
>>123684030
>>123683747
Thanks a lot for the advice guys, i'll test these options and see where i can go with them.
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>This card's Xyz Summon cannot be negated. When Xyz Summoned, your opponent cannot activate cards and effects. This card gains 1000 ATK and DEF for each Xyz Material attached to it. Once per turn, during your opponent's turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; your opponent cannot activate cards or effects for the rest of this turn (this is a Quick Effect).

Your move ;)
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>>123684497
>8 American Burgers for a 1900 vanilla
nice card game fags
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>>123688127
Can't you just cheap out and go for Tourmaline?
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>>123688560
Well yeah but there are several reasons to run Garnet

It's the highest attack vanilla monster that Gem-Knights have
It has zero DEF for Masked Chameleon plays
It's the coolest looking non-Extra Deck Gem-Knight

You can run Tourmaline if you don't give a fuck about any of that, but there's a lot more reasons to Garnet
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im just testing this shit. why is allowed to combo zaborg and n'tss??
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>There are 16 Kozmos, 10 Performapal/Performage, 2 Infernoids, 2 ‘tellarknights, 1 PSY-Frame and 1 Majespecter Decks in the Top 32 in the final round of the day. Here are the standings after Round 8 at the YCS – Sao Paulo. Only 1 Duelist remains undefeated.
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>>123688943
How about you try that again, but in fucking English
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>>123689021
>1 Majespecter
B-BUT MAJESPECTERS ARE GOOD - /dng/
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>>123689021
>1 Duelist remains undefeated.
Which deck is he using? Performage?
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>>123689021
B-b-b-b-b-but /dng/ said Kozmos were Tier 2
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>looking older than your mother
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>>123689021
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>>123689021
>16 Kozmos in Brazil
A bunch of BR's were able to afford Kozmo /dng/ What's your excuse?
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>>123692467
They're not Brazilian and are in fact Euros or Hot Blooded Americans who travelled to the toilet of the world to get an easy win.
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>>123692467
Selling drugs gives you a ton of money.
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>>123690572
>They're both cute
>Aged cute
>Soft cute
I just want to kiss them both.
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>cant use my kaiju deck since the last package didnt arrive on time
>Cant use the synchron deck since that same package had some extra deck cards
>Cant use resonators because that fucking package had main deck stuff
fuck this shit game, im not giving them anymore money masters of pendulum is going to be the last thing i buy
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Why do black people like YGO so much?
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>tfw a card being sent from Euroland takes a shorter amount of time arriving than a card from this same state
I don't know anymore. Also, does Euro Secret Rares look different from American Secret Rares?
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>>123693749
You're encouraged to lie, cheat, and steal in Yugioh so blacks feel well at home in the YGO community.
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>>123670958
>is the ace card of the best YGO rival

But The King never played blue-eyes
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fuck man, I can't build an odd-eyes deck that is good
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>>123683695
>those ratios
>gorz
dear god man at least put in a second synchron explorer, and take out that stupid ass bls
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>>123695661
Let me see what you're working with so far.
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>>123695661
>fuck man, I can't build a deck
Have you considered getting good?
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>>123694368
A card once sat in a post office three hours away from me for four days. The US mail service is a fuckin joke.
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>>123688943
too many monsters and
>upstart
take that garbage out
>>123692467
pretty easy when 80% of the population sells drugs
>>123694991
that mother fucker has red nova and calamity I think he'll be fine
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>>123695906
>>123695905
I might just take out the whole performage engine
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>>123696598
>More than 1 Nobledragon EVER
>2 of every Extra Deck Odd-Eyes Dragon that comes in the Structure Deck
>2 fucking Vortex as if you're ever going to be in a situation that warrants you needing or even getting 2
>That single, random Unicorn
>ZERO FUCKING MIST VALLEY APEX AVIAN IN A GOD DAMN MAGICIAN DECK

Yeah dude, you just can't deckbuild. Just go netdeck and tweak it for the TCG's banlist
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>>123697083
You're making it obvious that you can see, and I congratulate you on that, but what exactly is wrong with the observations that you're making? I'm not the guy posting his build btw
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>>123697284
I'm telling him that it's fucking bad you idiotm I can't be bothered to sit here and lecture him on his poor choices because I'm not fucking Blu and I don't feel like doing that shit

Go get spoonfed somewhere else
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>>123697083
now hold on everything else you stated is solid but Ive had vortex fucked more than once, it doesnt hurt to have 2
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>>123697083
granted, I did netdeck this off someone last thread. I might just replace the extra deck. Im not gonna put mist valley apex.
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>>123697498
Sorry, if you're not a net decker like me then you don't know what the fuck you're talking about
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>>123697559
Aww, are you upset that I told you that we don't spoonfeed?
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>>123697083
>>More than 1 Nobledragon EVER
not him, but whats wronf with having more tha tone nobledragon?
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What happened to BFK? I haven't seen him in a year
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What's better. PePe/EmEm/Circus/whatever its called or Kozmo?
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>>123697669
Yeah I got pretty upset man now idk how to deal with it other than pretending to be you. Sorry
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I'd really want to side Raigeki, but have no space in my side deck and don't want to main Wavering Eyes.

>>123697743
You only need 1 since it summons itself from the grave.
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>>123697743
Why would you ever need more than 1 Nobledragon? What is the purpose of having more than 1 of a card that doesn't do anything really on its own, has most of its utility in the graveyard, and a card that is the SHITTIEST scale ever?
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>>123697880
Quit posting your meme build faggot
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>using trap cards ever when Royal Decree exists
lol
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>>123698035
Better than anyone else's. Still deciding on whether or not I'll be using Flying "C", Concealing Light, and Denko in the side deck.

Extra deck options also have Black Rose, 101, C101, and Majester Paladin.

I took out Luster Pendulum from my main deck since the lack of Pendulum Wizard means you can't pop it to rebuild your scale with Dragonpit.
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>>123697880
oh, ok thanks

>>123697949
k.
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What is considered a meme deck?
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>>123697743
This is why Buster Blader isn't allowed to be good.

I hate Dragons as much as the next rational guy but this is obscene. Buster Blader is that one cop who takes his job a little too seriously.

On a related note: Shaddolls go in everything. That Fusionist Deck has me trying to make decks that can utilize mill fusions and I think Buster.dek may be one of them. Nothing crazy goes on but it sets up the deck really well. I don't feel comfy sharing a list because It's just in testing (Read: it's still shit) but I encourage others to try it out.
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>>123698187
anything you like
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>>123698187
You're favourite deck
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>>123698126
Are you SERIOUSLY trying to say that your build is any better than any of the other ones?
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>>123698198
Post list, I'm interested.
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>>123698367
Well it is better than most of the shit that's been posted
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I kinda fixed up my deck? Im getting mixed reactions here
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>>123698585
Apex Avian is better than Odd-Eyes. I only run 3 Odd-Eyes for thematic reasons. 3 Apex + 2 Odd-Eyes is a better ratio.
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>>123698432
>My shit deck isn't as shit as the other's
Come on now son
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>>123698198
>testing out new Blue-Eyes cards
>run into Buster Blader
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>>123698768
3 apex seems to bricky imo
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>Watch Capital G's newest video
>He's hyping up Flying "C" as the hot tech against Circus
>RIGHT after he sees Pendulum Wizard blow up 2 cards on the field and search

Is this man clinically retarded? How the fuck does anyone watch this shit, I've got an actual headache now
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>>123699239
Cl would be Wizard targetting cards for destruction and Flying would be CL 2, right?
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>>123699239
He can't read and has literal 12 years olds moderating his stream, what do you expect?
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>>123699351

yes
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>>123699351
If you're trying to summon Flying "C" at that point, the summon response window should have already passed. And even if that isn't the case, it's the fact that Circus can easily search ANOTHER Wizard piss easy and just blow up Flying "C" anyway that just makes it baffling that anyone would hype the card for that matchup
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>>123699239
>drake meme image
Didn't even read your post
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>>123699617
Sounds like you need to call me on my cell phone~
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>>123699551
It's still on the summon window since that faggot wizard activates on summon as well. At the very least, you're slowing them down for a turn so they can't fuck you over with Infinity or Rafflesia
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Can someone link me to the "Basketball/SlamJam" deck?

I can't find it anywhere ;-;
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Yo guys, what up? Can I post my channel here? I'm almost at 2 million subscribers.
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>>123700595
Are you that qt guy that opens yugioh packs on youtube?
If so yes :3
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>>123700595
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>>123700791
I don't pander to faggots sorry friend :3
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>>123700791
No, I have a gaming channel with ALMOST 2 million subs, a comedy with over 1 million subs and a blog channel with 600k.
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>>123700595
JacksFilms?
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>>123700883
link to your channel?
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>>123699239
isnt he ghetto black straight out of college, "needs to get a real job", and exactly like azneyes where his entire fanbase are bad players but will blindly follow anything he says even though he's never topped shit and always wrong
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>>123700883
Post your channel and a timestamp.
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>>123701131
He can sometimes be insightful but a lot of the times he has a bad case of the /dng/ where he doesn't read
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>>123700975
lol you didnt hear? he reached 2 million when he posted YGS 100 last week
now we can only make fun of him for his forehead
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>>123700975
No

>>123701107
>>123701167
I don't know anymore, I don't want you guys to sabotage me at this point.
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>>123701583
Sabotage you how?
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>>123701583
>"hurr durr, can i join? im super famous and hot stuff"
"yeah anon just give us a link to your super famous channel"
>"herr derp, no you guyz r bully n i dont want sabutage"

wait, it was bait right? damn i fell for it
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>>123701583
fake AND gay
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>>123702080
It didn't work out for BFK either, even if he wasn't "super famous", but that was his own fault regardless.
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>>123701901
>>123702080
Fine, can you sub please?

https://www.youtube.com/user/DashieGames
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>>123702631
literally who?
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>>123698198
>over 10,000 atk
Oh shit. What deck was that?
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>>123702631
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I got the components to make both Pendulum Magicians and Pendulum Performages, which one should I make for locals?
Keep in mind that there is only 1 other Pendulum player there, the rest is petdeck.
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>>123702631
fucking literally who

also, lel i rused you, im gonna hack you anon
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>>123703451
Whatever the fuck you want man
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>>123703289
>>123702713
did you sub?
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>>123702631
>Goes for the worst girl in huniepop
unsubbed
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>>123703451
another petdeck shit
dont be that anon that tries to hard
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>>123703669
I only put up the funniest parts in that video. I still play that game.
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>>123703972
You still haven't posted a timestamp.
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>Top 16 decks of Sao Paulo aren't posted anywhere
nice fucking game yugibabies
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http://yugiohprices.com/card_price?name=Xiangke+Magician
Going up and up. Currently lowest is at 9 bucks
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>>123705127
I'm glad I got one for trading that Majespecter quick-spell.
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>>123705127
fug and i just wasted 35 burgers on meme decks
can maigicians be good/decent without him?
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I have 150 bucks

what deck should I make irl?

for going 2 regionals and shit
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>>123705916
PePe
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>>123674738
>vanguard less skill than YGO
kek
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>>123705916
circus,pp, perfomages or what ever you want to call it
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>>123705876
The deck needs at least two copies of him in the deck as a scale, for his effect, as a beater, or as another seven for R7 plays.
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>>123706002
all the deck lists I've seen are much more expensive.

where the 150ish decklists at

Also what if I don't wanna run pepe, infernoids are kinda dope
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>>123706060
hot damn, well, there goes my last 20 dollars of budget
thanks anon
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>>123705916
Make like 100 more dollars and then go and buy Chaos Dragons or something nigga, you can't buy a competitive deck with only $150 what type of fucking game you think you're playing?
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>>123705916
D/D
You've get some wins here and there.
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>>123706847
the infernoid builds that topped cost $150, if you exclude galaxy cyclones.
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>>123706847
>Chaos Dragons
>Competitive
lol
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how much is this dik going to cost?
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>>123707640
They have more tops than Nekroz, Qliphorts, Shaddolls, and Ritual Beasts combined this format
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>>123707992
>They have more tops than other non-competitive decks
congrats?
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>>123707891
Gonna be Super at leastt.
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>>123707891
Probably five bucks at sneak and then it'll fall under if it's a Super. If a common, less than a dollar
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>>123708128
>>123708334
fug i just notice, sorry i was referring tot he entire deck
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I've been away for a bit playing other card games. What's the meta look like right now?
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>>123708656
You're either playing a Pendulum archetype or Kozmo.
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>>123708656
dumb frog meme posters everywhere
dumb kek wars keks everywhere
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how the hell did Ignister go up to $25 in one night
It was fucking $15
Did some fag do the Odd-Eyes fusion shit again
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>>123709209
Have you just been paying 0 attention to the meta or do you just like posting dumb shit all the time?
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>>123709209

it's a card used on 2 meta decks that it's the most easy out against Kozmo shit and it's part of a pack that hasn't been reprinted.

It's obvious it would go up like foam. Once we get EmEM watch it go even higher.
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>>123709350
>tfw bought a playset for $12
Keep or watch it rise like Luster Pendulum did
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>>123709883

I would like to say it's a gamble but now that I think about it, no, it isn't.

BOSH could either come with Pendulum Wizard or not. On any case, we get Dinoster Powerful who is bound to increase the price of the entire Dracoslayer engine as a whole. So keep them.
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r8/h8
ignore side
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I like Mario more than Edgar
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>>123710687
Why don't you shadow duel him if you're so tough?
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>>123710853
Kek you
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So after PePe dies to erratas/banlists what comes next?
I'm thinking that Konami is going piggyback off nostalgia and reset Yugioh so Blue-eyes and Magicians are the meta. The six cards that BEWD.dek have really turned it around and opened so many OTK scenarios
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>>123712146
I will rip up my most expensive card on camera if that happens. Screen cap this post.

Also what are your most expensive cards?
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>>123712753
Just a crap load of ghost rares and secret rares that have all been powercreeped like BLS, Rescue Rabbit, Tour guide, Neo Galaxy eyes, Two Red eyes, Dark Magician, Blue eyes and others.
I stopped collecting for a bit because it was getting too costly and decided to chill out on online simulators.
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>>123687328
Bait out your detach for the turn, then play monsters until you either run out of materials or I can play a monster that can just run you over.
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>>123713154

>not XYZ Encore on his End Phase

step it up senpai
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>>123713154
>Bait out
You don't have to bait out shit, it's basically a guarantee that they will activate it before the start of your main phase.
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Please feel free to bully.

I didn't want to afford the second Odd-Eyes fusion and it clogged anyway. I barely like the first in my deck even though it's amazing when I search it.

I feel like I need another high scale
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>>123713489
Use fucking Unicorn.
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>>123713489
>please feel free to bully
You smell weird
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>>123713489

don't use that many Oafdragon, 2 is standard.

Also why the fuck Chicken Meme? If you don't like/can afford the second Odd-Eyes fusion you can always add MammotSplash as a janky fusion tech.
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Anyone has a good D/D/D deck?

I'm trying to make one but there are a shitton of cards.
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>>123714256
Try this.
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>>123714005
His deck is shit but no one is going to take advice from you. Kill yourself.

>>123667336
You suck at deck building. Typical redditor.
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>>123714256
>>123714431
Shit, forgot to mention only cards that were released in the TCG. Me and my friends are going to enter a tournament next week with archetypes we have never used.

Thanks anyways.
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>>123713489
Remember Skullcrobar works as a high scale as well if youre desperate

What the hell will Odd-Eyes fusions price be when the structure comes?
I still need a second
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>>123709350
Is luster pendulum gonna reach $80-$100 when full PePe comes out?
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>>123713489
WAVERING EYES
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>>123715161
>T/C/G

No, anon. No.
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>>123715430
Why not?
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>>123715161
I hear they aren't that good in the TCG, sorry anon. Try getting one to two Leonidas at least?
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>>123715161
>D/D/D
>TCG
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>>123715161
>D/D/D in TCG
Don't do it. We're still missing key cards for the deck's operation, and one of your cards that you need at 2/3 is $7 a card for some fucktarded reason.
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>boss monster's type/attribute doesn't match the rest of the archetype
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>>123713661
I can't do anything with 6's and it targets so it doesn't even do anything Avian doesn't already do, including being unsearchable outside Majester

All it's good for is being a bouncing beater who can be used as a scale, but there are better scales and it clashes with most of the magicians.

>>123714005
Chicken Meme lets me run 3 Terraforming for Sky Iris to protect my scales/make odd-eyes more consistent and field spells are a +2 with Ancient Fairie Dragon anyway. It was mostly leftover tech from 2x Fusion for 5x targets, giving me a lot of reason to want Iris early for plusses and not wanting upstart.
Fusion is only good because of the extra deck thing. Splashmammoth is shitty once per duel who can't even be used for a scale because >4

>>123715243
That's true, but Joker is unsearchable from Pendulum Call.
It can probably hit 50-80 if it tops, being a secret and all. Looking at Eccentrick at least.

>>123715398
Already in side
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>>123715562
>>123715678
Damn it, me and my bad luck. We all agreed to go with archetypes chosen at random. So there's no hope for me?
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>>123715925
>I can't do anything with 6's and it targets so it doesn't even do anything Avian doesn't already do, including being unsearchable outside Majester

All it's good for is being a bouncing beater who can be used as a scale, but there are better scales and it clashes with most of the magicians

It bounces shit to the hand at minimal cost to you DURING BOTH PLAYER'S TURNS you retard, holy shit.
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>>123715925
>it doesn't even do anything Avian doesn't already do
Okay, you're an idiot, nevermind then.
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>>123716027
No, there's hope. What did he roll?
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>>123670736
Fucking christ what is the sauce?
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>>123697783
He still lurks.
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>>123715925

that's the reason I said jankie

I still don't like Chicken Meme at all.

And Kirin is free removal, read his effect, it's so much different to Apex Avian.

I would rather use Wavering Eyes on main (you're guaranteed to run into pendulum decks and even if you go against Kozmo you can get Joker to hand)
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>>123716204
My friends are going with
Battlin Boxer
Galaxy
Gishki
Dark World
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>>123716027
>>123715161
I tried making tcg d/d/d a bit ago and here were the tries.
>>123716435
Pray none of them run excessive backrow.
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>>123716435
you could try the TCG build that did ok in dng tourney last week
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>>123715925
>It can probably hit 50-80 if it tops

Nigga you are retarded. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
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>>123716435
Gishki might give you some trouble if they open great, but TCG D/D/D outpaces all of them.
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>>123716435
You should be fine so long as the banlist applies.
>BAHNING KNUCKLAZ
May give you problems. Prevent Lead Yoke from staying on the board always.
>Galaxy
Non-Issue. They're a joke even among Petdecks. The worst thing that'll happen is that you'll have to read some R8s that you're not used to.
>Gishki
To my knowledge, none of their shit has protection. Valkyrie anything they put on the board. Consider siding Mistake if you have some, but don't worry too much if you don't.
>Dark World
May cause salt, but you should pull through in the long run.
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>>123716570
As in it'll go higher, or you don't think it could hit that?

Obviously it could get higher, but if if Odd-Eyes Magicians tops, 50 is practically a minimum given Dracoslayer is 40something now.
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>>123716654
It seen you don't shit about what you're talking about anon, or you're just retard enough to realize the power of the deck.
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>>123716654
Nah, the card is a 1 of, unless you're running another copy of Fusion for the mirror or for silly reasons.
>>
YOU PEOPLE ARE RETARDED

ODD EYES FUSION LETS YOU USE
MATERIALS FROM THE EXTRA DECK FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.
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>>123716654
> 50 is practically a minimum given Dracoslayer is 40something now.

It will never hit that price. Thats not how this works. Please stop talking about stuff like this. You don't know what you are talking about.

>>123716817
Shut up, retard.
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>>123717092
Your opponent needs to control two or more monsters while you don't but yeah it's really fucking good
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>>123716509
>>123716567
>>123716606
>>123716641

Thanks mates, will post results in a week.
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>>123715876
How forgotten is this guy?
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>>123717092
Yeah, and it's searchable, but the best way to use it is when your opponent has 2 or more monsters, and Vortex can be summoned with Absolute too, so better play 1 copy.
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>>123716817
>It seen you don't
>or you're just retard enough
Alright.

>>123717050
Yeah, but even one-ofs in decks can hit high prices if they're low supply, like secrets or every XYZ staple in the game before reprints. It already hit 30 despite being in a deck that doesn't exist yet.

Hype alone brought things like Dracoslayers, Eccentrick, and Brilliant Fusion up to stupid prices. It's more a jab on the Yugioh economy than anything about the card itself.
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>>123717092

that's what I have been saying, I thought everybody knew that the reason you run Odd-Eyes Rebellion is to send it to grave with fusion so that Vortex is a -1 in hand advantage without setup
>>
Anyone have that NicoNico Blue-Eyes video?
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>>123717585
Don't fucking patronize me.
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>>123717735
...Yet the fucking tripfags are the only noticeable problem, they say.
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>>123717903
Shut up you dumb faggot.
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>>123717903
I do tripfag it's just that I take it off when I shitpost :3
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>>123718018
>>123718101
Share content or stop shitposting, fags.
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>>123718159
Same to you gay boy
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>>123717585
The one with Yoshi music?
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>>123718219
There is nothing wrong with being gay
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>>123718496
>Current fucking year
>Being a faggot
LOL
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>Nobody translated the manga where they made ancient philosophers into anime girls
How will I reach enlightenment now?
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>>123717585
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27683010
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>>123718807
>manga
>clearly a novel
You were never going to reach it anyway
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>>123717410
this is the deck that one mexican player manuel used in TCG tourney 2 weeks ago, if this real life I advice you this might cost you a bit much
>>
What time should I come to /dng/ to avoid blatant shitpostin? I definitely know I shouldn't come on the weekends unless there is a tourney
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Fuck Reading General?.
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>>123719171
Don't come here during Euro hour or alternatively you can go to Reddit since you're a little bitch
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>>123719171
Schooltime during American hours probably has the least concentration of shitposters since the Euros/aussies are asleep by then.
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>>123719334
Sorry I hurt your feelings by calling you a shitposter
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>>123719004
I'll reach enlightenment one day, just you wait.
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>>123719489
It's okay. You are forgiven Reddit friend
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>Get friend into Yugioh
>asks to make hima deck online so he can play with it and learn how to use
>He really wants to use Obelisk
>tell him to just throw one in there since Pendulums can afford the tributes
>complains Obelisk got spinned by Ignister
>WTF WHY DOES IT DO THAT
>Ask him if he read the card
>says " no why would I read"
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>Resolving Wavering Eyes for 4
Is there a better feeling?
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ritual beasts still worth running @ locals?
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>>123720442
you gotta keep telling him to always read the cards, that is what a good friend will do
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>>123720442
>"they are the egyptian gods man, how could anything beat them!"
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>>123720489
Yes, negating it with Juggler.
>>
also hows the infernoid v pepe matchup?

my friend also wants to run synchrons, whats the best variant of it atm?
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>>123720649
Hot damn that just reminded me of a game where a guy got absolutely SHITTED on by a dude who negated TWO Wavering Eyes with TWO Jugglers

It was fucking amazing
>>
Seriously though is Damage Juggler the single best hand trap in the game?

>Has a slight Swift Scarecrow effect
>Has negation on effect damage
>Also has massive utility in the graveyard as a RotA for a splashable engine
>Level 4
>LIGHT
>Spellcaster in a meta with actual Spellcaster support

This nigger is insane. This is everything you need to know about current Yugioh in a single card
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>>123720489
>opponent axtivates Wavering eyes with 4 scales up
>chain MY Wavering eyes to take the 4
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>>123721027
It's so fucking amazing that I run the non-Pendulum Clown engine in almost every deck I can use it because of Juggler.
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>>123720524
Nope. Ironically enough Konami killed the same way they killed GB's. One well timed solemn and you lose the game so there's no point in playing anymore, gotta shill kozmo somehow.
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So what cards do you guys predict konami will eventually hit to hurt PePe/EmEm/Circus/whatever? That is assuming konami actually keeps releasing updated banlists.
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>>123721702
too much stuff but they already are without shock master and lavalval
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>>123721702
horsayy
that way they can shill nova inifin with koz and dmist
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>>123721702
They must hit Luster P and Wavering to fuck over the deck.
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>DevPro replays keep breaking
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>>123721702

OCG needs to hit Pendulum Wizard, Ariadne, Flame Mascot, Luster Pendulum and make sure to add OPT to every shit that triggers on destruction. Wavering Eyes deserves an unrelated hit for being a sacky card.

TCG would need to hit Luster Pendulum and any part of the Perfomage engine, be Juggler or Flame Mascot.

But knowing Komoney, the hits will be;

Brilliant Fusion, Trick clown and Ignister
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>>123722687

The japs already dropped Ariadne, no point in hitting it
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I don't know why the fuck we always get so many newfags somewhere after banlist season but you've got to be the biggest fucking idiot ever if you think Konami TCG is going to make any serious strides to hit the meta deck in the very next banlist.

This is the same company that took an entire fucking year to hit Shaddolls significantly, and 9 months to hit everything else from DUEA to THSF. OCG might actually try something new eventually but you faggot better get used to Meme dick shoved down your throat because they're making it obvious that they REALLY want to sell BOSH
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>>123722928
>you've got to be the biggest fucking idiot ever if you think Konami TCG is going to make any serious strides to hit the meta deck in the very next banlist.
>So what cards do you guys predict konami will eventually hit to hurt PePe
>eventually
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>>123722818

>Already dropped Ariadne

>the Clash builds being the ones that dropped it and for the mere reason that going over 45 cards impacts too much consistency

Ariadne is degenerate shit whether people run it or not. I'm sure that if you hit any other part of the EmEM engine but leave Ariadne untouched she's going to go back to the Clash predominant builds.
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>>123722928
Is not just the newfags, players on my locals that have played since 2007 were talking today like

>so what are you building for the christmas $500 tournament?
>Hero
>why not pepe/kozmo?
>because Im sure pepe, kozmo and monarchs will be destroyed by the list on january and ptolemaus banned before infinity arrives
>mfw
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>>123723074
It's not just Clash builds that are dumping Ariadne. In terms of EMEm, it's the least popular variant of the deck. Clash seems to top the most, vanilla builds second, and the disparity between Vanilla and Ariadne is huge because at some point everyone just fucking dropped it. It still pops up from time to time but definitely not at the rate that Clash and Vanilla builds do

Still not sure if you should call it Vanilla Meme
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>>123720489
>Resolving Royal Tribute for 5
>Resolving Yamata Dragon for 5
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>>123723558
I feel you anon

>be at locals buying some D/D/D
>tell them leonidas is run at 0-1
>tell me I am crazy even by the only D/D/D player present that insist even now OCG plays 3 (he just bought 3 leonidas)
>I got all the commons, still need Kali Yuga and Ceasar, got no leonidas because I know better
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>faggot thinks he can kill me with Red-Eyes Flare Metal burn
>mfw I pull out Trapeze Magician
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Trying to make a HEROs deck with an Extra Deck similar to this. Any suggestions?
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>>123724193

killing yourself because other than the dark and water fusions everything else is shit
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>>123723943
I swear that Leonidas is NOT necessary at 3. You can replace it for any other main deck D/D/D for a budget build.
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>>123724193
- bad HEROs
+ more Dark Law
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>>123724372
yes but people talked as if that was the truth, I ended up frustrated and I still dunno why they think that? Did D/D/D won an ARG meme tourney or something?
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>>123724193
Drop the vision heroes. You will never want to pull them out. Adoration is a maybe, but never Trinity. Run Gaia.

Run Old School City Beat with 420s and Mist
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>>123723943
>>123724372
>running Leonidas at 2 in my deck
T-t-that's fine right?
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>>123723558
>Tournament on Christmas
???????
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>>123724843
>NOT having a tournament on Christmas
Are you retarded?
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>>123724843
Most card shops do it right before christmas or right after, but it's still "the christmas tournament"

Just like Christmas office parties.
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>>123724761
2 is good right now, hope you bought them cheap tho anon, is just that once TCG gets all the cards available at DOCS he should be run as a 1- of.

But before DOCS he was run at 3 mainly because we lacked D'Arc which was thankfully printed as a rare.
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>I spend Christmas playing a children's card game
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>>123724843
Holy shit, you are retarded.
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>>123725352
No one said that you fucking retard. God damnit, how fucking new are you?

Also, I don't see how a tournament on christmas eve would be any worse than going to a christmas party.
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>I waste Christmas Eve playing a children's card game
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>>123725645
>>123725352
Who are you quoting? Or are you going to play yugioh on christmas eve?

Here is a tip: The arrow you used is usually used to quote people.
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>>123725908
Sorry I'm pretty new at 4chan so I just like using the greentext feature :)
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>>123725964
Its fine. I just hope you are enjoying your first month here.
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>tfw all three of the pendulum fusion support monsters are garbo
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>>123724843
>>123725136
>>123725152
>>123725382
Yeah on December 22th our shop is hosting a tournament for $2000, everyone calls it the $500 tournament because the 1st place gets $500.

However only a few guys are bulding meta decks because everyone else is thinking that we're getting a meta nuke again on January.
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>>123726260

Splash Mammot, Trump Witch and Trump Girl?

Trump Girl is everything but shit
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>>123726485
I really like girl, she's the way to go for this kinda thing, but the problem is she's not generic enough. I can't wait for more generic fusions.
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>>123726434
Well, sounds like easily earnt $500.
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>>123726260
>not running Make America Great Again Girl in Chaos Field Arcanite
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>>123726434
That sounds fun, where's the store anon?
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>>123726589

yeah, we need fusion pendulums with better targets, but right now she's good at bringing out Rune-Eyes and Vortex. It's also pendulum summonable by Monkeyboard and Dragonpulse.

She can also make easy Supreme Arcanites and Windas for what is worth
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>>123726749
>Chaos Field Arcanite
what the figurative fuck. tell me more
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>>123726849
>King of the swamp pendulum retrain
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>>123725645
3D Monster models >>> 100 dollar paper cards
I hope they just officially cancel the card game and turn Yugioh into a digital game
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>>123727087
>Konami
>Wanting to make anything other than Pachinko machines
???
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>>123727087
Nice bait.
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>>123726862
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>>123727192
Are you admitting you like spending 800 on a deck that might not even win?
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>>123727223
I'm aware of the synergy. I just don't see how to make it consistent.
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>>123727278
I don't mind. I'm not poor. You are stupid.

You can already play yugioh online for free. Why do you care about the IRL game?
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>>123727285
Not him, but:
Sekrit tech in Lightsworn (Minerva + Felis/Raiden), or Shaddolls (Falco/Beast or Winda).
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>>123727285
Shaddoll Fusion into Wendigo using MPB O-Lion and Hedge
Summon token and Falcon,
Synchro into Accel
Normal Summon MAGA Girl
Arcanite, Pop Field
Pendulum back MAGA Girl and fuse into Supreme
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>>123727517
>I don't mind. I'm not poor
Still not a good reason to spend 100 dollars on a single card
There are much better uses for money than a dying card game
>You can already play yugioh online for free.
All the simulators are very flawed
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Why do you guys are such tryhards trying to follow the meta when it's all just an elaborate ruse by konami to jew you people up? I mean all the meta deck will be soon be made useless by konami in favor for the next big deck.
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>>123727834
>flawed
Elaborate retard
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>>123727849
Konami still doesn't understand the cards they make let alone why they sell.
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>>123727849
>m-m-muh tryhards
The cry of the scrub
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>>123727517
>Why do you care about the IRL game?
What money are you winning from locals every week on YGOpro?

The closest is tripfag donated DNG tournaments.
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>people thinking there will be a new banlist in January when it takes Konami FOUR MONTHS to make a SHITTY banlist
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Realistically speaking, what card getting hit would result on the most stuff coming off the banlist?
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>>123728519
Exodia
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>last list was July - November
Calm down, we're not getting a new list until March. Enjoy your PEMPEm format.
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>>123727834
>There are much better uses for money than a dying card game

Thats just your opinion. You may have a better use for the money but thats not my problem. Kill yourself.
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>>123728519
Dewloren?
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>>123728210
>m-m-muh scrubs
The cry of a true tryhard.
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>>123728319
You shouldn't respond if you can't follow the conversation.
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>>123728319
>Kazuki Takahashi will never allow Konami to turn YGO into an esport

>>123728519
Blaze Fenix getting banned could probably clean up a handful of things
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>>123728519
Exodia or Royal Magical Library
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Which cards are only on the banlist because they cause salt alone?
>Card Destruction
>Monster Reborn
>Chaos Emperor
>Brionac
>Thousand Eyes Restrict
>Snatch Steal
>Change of Heart
>DRAGON RULERS
>Self destruct button
>Harpies feather duster
>Heavy Storm
>Giant trunade
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>>123728616
>errata Exodia into a divine/divine-beast that deals 4000 unavoidable life points by discarding 5 pieces
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>>123728873

Brionac is there because of insane loops, retard, not because of salt

Giant Trunade is there because it's a better Heavy Storm

Snatch Steal and Change of Heart are sacky cards
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>>123728873
Those cards are on the banlist because they are too strong. Except for maybe Monster Reborn and TER. It has nothing to do with your Salt meme you underage faggot.
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>>123728873
Morphing Jar, Morphing Jar #2, Self-Destruct Button, Last Turn.
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>>123728519
>>123728616
>>123728825
This
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>>123729145
>Self destruct button
I remember playing selfdestruct turbo in singles when it was at 3. It was immensely amusing to harvest salt with it.
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>>123729145

Morphing Jar is a +5 if it goes through, not to mention whatever bullshit you're discarding you're discarding for effect and may have effects making any supposed disadvantage into advantage, retard
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>>123728873
Trunade isn't salt. It's just unavoidable without a Bribe or Jammer and resets any of your own face-up lingering cards. Just fucks Floodgates in the mouth. I would love it back honestly.

Broken. As. Fuck.
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>>123728873
Cyber jar.
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>>123729313

>just fucks floodgates in the mouth

>HERE, LET ME GET MY EMPTINESS, MISTAKE AND FIENDISH CHAIN AND COTH TO HAND TO USE THEM NEXT TURN WITHOUT ANY LOSS WHILE I FUCK YOU FROM BEHIND BY DOING WHATEVER THE FLOODGATES BLOCKED BEFORE
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Since we're talking banlists what broken ass cards would you love to see off the banlist anyway?
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>>123729527
None. They are all sacky and bad for the game.
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>>123729075
>Sacky cards dont cause salt
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>>123729275
It also wastes your normal summon for the turn, can be seen a mile away in anything that doesn't normally set monsters, and the opponent can still just set all their S/Ts and swing into the Jar to benefit about the same as you, especially if they also have cards that benefit on discard.
The main reason it's banned is because Konami hates alternate win conditions so Empty Jar and Jackpot 7 had to die.
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>>123729313

>lets whoever is using the floodgate to get it back to their hand so they can play without being affected by it for a turn

Wow great idea, that sure fucks over floodgates.
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>>123729527
Rescue Cat Shock Master optional
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>>123729645
>every card on the banlist is sacky and bad for the game
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>>123729647
You should try not being retarded for a day.
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>>123729527
Heavy Storm

Substitoad since I'd really like to see what it's capable of without Mass Driver.
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>>123729647

>because they cause salt alone?
>cause salt
>salt alone
>>
What is even wrong with sacky cards


You people sure do love your helmets
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>>123729527
They could unban Last Turn and absolutely nothing would change since it's a pain in the ass just to set up and you could have just played a better deck instead.
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>>123729658

>IT MAY BENEFIT THE OPPONENT THE SAME SO IT'S FINE

So let's print Card of Sanctity without any real nerfs, ok?

Also Book of Taiyou is a thing for any deck that may want to abuse Jar
>>
Heavy storm needs to be back.
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>>123729862

>absolutely nothing would change

>give an autowin button for any deck that can main 3 copies of Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo or Jowgen the Spiritualist

you know how many fucking decks using both or fuck's sake, even the Barrier Statues along with draw power and lp decrease (something Chicken Game excels at) would appear just to abuse Last Turn right? And they would be consistent as fuck decks, not petdeck shit
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>>123729527
Free my nigga Exciton Knight.
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>>123729645
>Chaos Emperor is bad for the game
>Thousand eyes is bad for the game
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>>123728420
But the last banlist was great.
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>>123729527
Super Rejuvenation
I want to plus like the bery vest
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>>123729784
Thats not what I said you dumb faggot.

>>123730096
Those aren't broken. Read the post before replying.
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>>123729275
Future Erratas
Morphing Jar
>Both players discard hands and Draw 5
>You can't activate effects for the rest of the turn

Brionac
>Hard OPT

Change of Heart
>The monster you take can't activate its effects, its effects are negated and it can't attack

Harpies
>No Battle Phase

Heavy
>Take 800 damage for each opponent's destroyed card

D R A G O N S
>"Dragon Ruler" effects are now hard OPT and their summons are inherent
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>>123729863
Book of Taiyou is L I T E R A L L Y only used in Empty Jar.
Morphing Jar also isn't ever a +5 unless you have an empty hand or all the cards you discarded have some effects that triggered on discard, and even then it wouldn't be considered a +5 in overall card advantage since your opponent just refilled his hand as well.
Morphing Jar was fine at 1 for a long ass time, even back in the Goat Control days but they banned it because they don't like alternate win conditions.
>>123730035
It's not that easy to actually get down to 1000 or less LP without running terrible cards like Wall of Revealing Light, and at that point it's just a slower Reversal Quiz OTK since you still have to set it and pray that your opponent didn't MST it if they went first.
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>>123730030
Better Duster, Heavy would let you activate your Plushfire and things like that while destroying your opponent's backrow, and let's not begin with Giant Trunade.
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>>123729862
Last Turn is kind of silly against certain situations of last format decks
>Nekroz that used all of their non-rituals up already
>Infernoids that used up their few normal summonable monsters
>Qli that have Towers out keeps towers but can still lose
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>>123730096
CED is ruined so dont worry.
TER isnt doing shit. He is slow as smashing ground.
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Unban Delinquent Duo, Confiscation, The Forceful Sentry and Trap Dustshoot. The game is fixed.
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>>123730185
>nuke every deck just to sell what just came out
>nothing got unbanned
>ROTA at 1
>Dmoc still banned with an errata
>feather duster still banned
>Lavalval chain still banned
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>>123730250
Heavy
>Take 800 damage for each opponent's destroyed card

Change of Heart
>The monster you take can't activate its effects, its effects are negated and it can't attack

Glad you're not in charge of making cards at konami.
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>>123729527
Superpoly was used in all my shitty petdecks
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>>123730340
>chain still banned
It hurts my petdecks so much.
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>>123729683
>>123729516
>Using Trunade
>Not winning that turn
You guys are terrible fucking duelists.
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>>123730252

you know that you can get down to 1000 lp just by using

a) Hope for Escape
b) Chicken Game
c) old and classic "getting beat down to my last points"?
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>>123729527
Mind bastard
Cock master
party boat
Last will
Self destruct
Sixth swag
Jadgement
UO
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>>123730330
>implying I don't run 3 of Respect Play in every deck already
>>
>If a card is not uber broken it's shit
-/dng/
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>>123730374
Change is just Mind Control 2.0
Regular Heavy is fine in my opinion, but 800 damage doesnt ruin the card.
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>>123730504
Oh, and both cyber and fiber jar
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>>123730551
That's literally true though. Welcome to Power Creep: The Game
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>>123730559
>Change is just Mind Control 2.0
Regular Heavy is fine in my opinion, but 800 damage doesnt ruin the card
I'm saying it's a dumb effect. Paying half your LP for clearing backrow is barely a cost.
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>>123730374
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>>123730489
You still have to get down to 1000 LP, actually summon Pachy/Jowgen/Kristya, and have your opponent not fuck either Pachy/Jowgen/Kristya or the Last Turn itself, which still ends up being a worse Reversal Quiz OTK.
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>>123729527
Brain Control
Cold Wave
Dimension Fusion
Pot of Avarice
Royal Opression
Card of Safe Return to watch the world burn.
>>
Reminder guys.
Erratas are for nostalgia retards that don't read cards just use old favorites while making the card competitively useless.
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>>123730478

If it's about floodgates then why not just fucking bring back heavy instead of trunade?
>>
Card destruction LITERALLY does nothing. No retard will send their pendulums to the graveyard. Shaddolls are dead. Burning anus doesnt have enough power. Super Rejuv can come back too
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>>123730671
You mean figuratively.
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>>123730887
>Resolving card destruction in dark worlds
I want to so badly.
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>>123730887
B-But Dank Werld.
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>>123730761
How would they ever negate Pachy/Jowgen/Kristya without any cards?
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UNBAN MEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>123730887
Card Destruction was banned because it let D R A G O N S win worlds, and is bad card design in general since they have to make sure any new card/archetype they design doesn't plus out the ass with Card Destruction unless they just want to put it back on the list, which would be sillier than just leaving it on the list.
Super Rejuv is in a similar position, it limits design and forces them to make sure any new Dragon archetype doesn't work well with Super Rejuv.
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>>123719305
I didn't realize the webm was looping and thought that this person kept trying to SN Rafflessia over and over again.
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>Run a card at three because it's good as shit in the deck
>Never draw into it
>Run a card at two because it's a solid tech that can possibly clog if drawn in multiples
>Draw none or draw both
>Run card at two because it has an interaction that requires you to run it
>Draw it all of the time
>Run a card at one because it's part of a card interaction
>Draw it every fucking time
Does this shit happen to anyone else? I always feel that the odds are stacked against me
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>>123731105
You can chain stuff like Breakthrough Skill to the Last Turn.
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>>123731128
funny how you mention cards that limit design and yet you want sangan unbanned
>>
>>123731243
I only play decks where my searchers's searchers can search my searchers.
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>>123731243
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
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>>123731243

Do you play in real life or just DN?
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>>123731441
*tips helmet*
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>>123731510
Both
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>>123731568
Clearly you need to learn to stack your deck better
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>>123731331
Sangan is much slower and harder to abuse than Card Destruction or Super Rejuv, and doesn't really open up super duper combo plays since it doesn't plus as hard as Card Destruction or Super Rejuv.
It can stay banned if they actually see it as a design limit, but it's mostly just banned because it can search Exodia shit and because Tour Guide used to be relevant in case they wanted to make more Tour Guide style cards.
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>>123731630
That's against the rules...
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>>123730850
Follow the chain of the conversation. Read, god dammit.
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>>123731243
Fuck Messengelato
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>>123731789
I can't believe this even has to be said at this point:
It's not cheating unless you get caught.
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>>123731859
USE PENDULUMS, NIG
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>>123732003
Nigga I started this pendulum shit, drawing Messengelato is still fucking ass. Esepcially when you draw both
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>>123731859
Don't you know, he loves you and wants to be with you all the time.

>>123732106
Bullshit. I started it with geddon, heiress, eccentrick, dragodeus and RotA.
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>>123731243
>win tons of casual games, sack people a lot
>always eat the dirt in tournaments, brick a fuckton more than in practice games/casual games
>this stays true for meta and petdeck
I dunno
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>>123667032
I last played Bubble Beat when E-Dragons dropped.

Then I had to sell my collection and join the army cause reasons.

What's happened to the meta since then? I bought the Masked Hero Structure and some fusions to play casually.
>>
>>123732263
Fuck off man I started it. Don't try to take my credit
>>
anyone have a pendulum dolche list?

also take my yang zings or infernoids to regionals?
>>
>>123732293

If you consistently do decent in casual games but do awful at tournaments, it might not be really bad luck.
>>
>>123732293
I'm the exact opposite but don't know if it's any better
>top every single locals most of the time, most even going undefeated
>playing casually, brick hard against structure deck shitters for 5+ turns
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If they erratad morphing jar to be a hard opt it could go back to 1 tbqh.
It'd still be a fairly strong card in some decks but it wouldn't be overly oppressive and janky alternate win con decks wouldn't be able to abuse it if it was a hard opt.
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>>123731243
You don't know how many times I opened with Falco or Altair first turn and wished they were anything else.
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>>123732403
Depends on your builds for both.
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>>123732403
I have one, yes.
Would you like to see it?
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>>123732552
That shit was why I started maining Foolish Burial in Tellar
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>>123732335
E Dragons dicked everything than got gutted
power vacuum happened, HAT made people salty
then DEUA came out, power creep up the ass
then more power creep with Qli, the first good pendulum deck
then more power creep with Nekroz, a ritual deck of searchers
Nekroz dicked everyone for a while in the tcg while the ocg nuked them and had the ultimate R4 cancer dominate
then after a long stale meta and worlds KoA nuked all the meta decks leading us to another power vacuum meta, with Kozmo intended to be the best deck by KoA but the R4 cancer of performage pend decks is continuing.
In the future we are getting Pend Magicians, more degenerate Performage shit, more degenerate R4's we had been missing, and nofun monarchs
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>>123732263
B-but Gelato is a cute girl

Actually, I'm not even sure anymore whether someone tried the Empowered shit before I started messing around with Risebell

>>123732403
Several. Risebell build, Magician build, Performapal build, Performage build, I got more pendulums than you can waver at
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>>123732456
With confidence issues/making shitty decisions under pressure, you mean? Yeah, I have had issues with that. Its still annoying to draw a good hand as Gishki without my opponent having disruption/maxx c twice out of dozens of games.
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>>123732403
Infernoids are better against PePe.
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>>123732724
So what you're saying is I should just go back to tabletop Magic and Vanguard and say fuck it on ever doing a regional again, tracking.
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>>123732862

Not just that, skill as well. You're going to be facing better players in tournaments than you would in casual games.
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>>123732879
Magic is much better if you actually want to play competitively.
YGO is only good for casual shit.
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>>123732879
Are you scared, anon?
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fuck it just hit me with a pendlum dolche list that wouldcost 200ish.

already got staple traps/spells
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>>123732879
Nah, Magic is in its most expensive standard to date right now. Performage Yugioh is actually cheaper to get into at this point if you forego Archfiend Eccentrick (no 2 scales to resummon her anyway) and just stick to the maindeck commons +dracoslayers
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>>123732802
Not him, but would you mind sharing any of those lists, or at least some of the key combos? My friend is building Madolches, and I want them to try a Pendulum build out.
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>>123733130
>Playing Standard
lol
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>Pendulum Burial
>Send 1 Pendulum Monster from your Deck to your Extra Deck, face up. You can only activate "Pendulum Burial" once per turn.
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>>123733186
for what purpose
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>>123733115
Just go look at Yugioh topdecks and build Brilliant Dolches. Stop subscribing to people memeing about an already shitty deck with even shittier tech.
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>>123732978
I just trended towards it at the time because I had a BLS and some staple spells and traps. Plus back in Chicago YGO scene was hot.

>>123733056
Yes, when I first built a Hero-Rabbit build I took a while to learn actual rulings and how the new extra deck cards worked.

I was in the "lol summoned skull was the best back in the day what's this new shit" mentality. But I actually kind of liked the new complexity.

I guess now I just don't feel like having to get over a new learning curve all over again.
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>>123733186
>Let's make Pendulums even more broken
>>>/pojo/
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>>123732879

>not wanting to play the upcoming glorious star wars vs rank 4 format
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>>123733137
Standard madolche plays, except now you can resolve palooza every turn. If you're using risebell builds, you run a puddingcess so that you can hardcast choco. Perfomapal builds run skullcrobat, monkeyboard, and lizardraw, and they use lizardraw from extra to make R3s. Magician build uses pendulum call to put something in grave for tiaramisu at the same time it searches your scales. Performage build presumably abuses plushfire to make trapeeze and damage juggler for protection. I've no experience with performage, and last used magician long ago.
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>>123733290
Pendulums are the future of YGO. Deal with it.
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>opponent opens plushfire + luster + wavering
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>>123733186
>Settingu Caado
>Quickplay
>Set 1 Flip Monster from your Deck.
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>>123733186

>Pendulum Discard
>Send 1 pendulum monster for your hand to your extra deck, face up. Then, banish your opponent's hand.
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>>123733137
>>123733506
Oh, also, my risebell build uses two unexpected dai as well, since dai and anjelly is effectively the same as mew>anjelly
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Is shaddolls petdeck now?
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>>123732724
But Monarchs are fun.
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Japan seems to be doing just fine with Card Destruction, HFD, Shock Master, Super Rejuv, Monster Reborn, Cyber Stein, Chaos Emperor, Dark Magician of Chaos, Solemn Judgement, and Lavalval Chain
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>>123733186
>pendulum burial
that doesn't even make sense, sis
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>>123733687
KaiDolls are sekrit meta.
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>>123733723

>Japan seems to be doing just fine

No.
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>>123733651
Neat, I think I'll try helping them with the Risebell build first. Thanks, anon.
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>>123733889
Painful decision is your dear and precious friend.
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>>123733845
They are if there top decks dont even use any of those cards bar solemn, which is only thanks to Ariadne
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Are Shiranui going to get more support, or are they like Psyframes and SQMP, doomed to 1 set and petdeck status? I'm splashing them into something and am frustrated at the lack of options.
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>>123733889
>>123733651
>>123733506
>>123733137
>>123732802
>>123732403
>>123733954
Not the same anon but what is this Risebell build Im hearing about?
I have a friend that plays dolches and I was trying to help him improve his deck with perfomapals but I never heard about risebell.

Can anyone share a basic list or what pendulums should be used?
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>>123734104
Risebell and flash knight. Painful decision. Unexpected dai. RotA. 'Dolches. At least one puddingcess in the main. Risebell lets you hardcast choco.
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>crash sliprider into feral imps
>summon strawman
>strawman into sliprider
>tribute strawman for second sliprider
>tfw overlay into volcasaurus and pop ignister for game
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>>123733137
Do normal Madolche stuff. Pendulum summon to get extra monsters to OTK with (actually OTKing with Madolches usually required Mew+Anjelly/Hootcake and the ability to get out another level 3). You can also use it to play around negations because a well timed negate always fucks Madolches hard. If you can pendulum summon, you can make Tiaramisu just by having a Magileine in hand

Risebell build is pretty nice because even if you don't use it to hardcast Choco, you can make Hootcake level 4 which opens up more avenues to make Tiaramisu. Like >>123733954 said, Painful Decision is your best friend. Decision and Hootcake in hand is another 2-card Tiaramisu like Mew+Anjelly, with the benefit of not getting your face fucked as hard if they Veiler you
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>All these dummies playing all these retarded Kaijuu builds on /dng/ and DN
>No one has figured out the obvious and splashed Kaijus into Gustos
>Not seeing the obvious as fuck utility and OTK potential, along with an easy way of removing Kozmo Ships
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>>123734351
>implying Shaddolls aren't best build
But seriously, that sounds neat as fuck. I always knew Sphreez was good. List?
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>>123734302
Decision ns hoot is also any generic R4, which can also be surprisingly useful.

It's also fucking hilarious to go mew>anjelly with scales in hand, do everything with chateau up, and then pendulum summon out what tiaramisu adds back. Chateau also protects you when they TT in response to gelato, since you can then just pendulum summon back everything chateau gave you back.
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>>123729527
Pre errata CED
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DECISION ONLY WORKS ON VANILLAS RETARDS
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>>123734763
What the fuck do you think Risebell is, retard

Next you're going to say you were just pretending
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>>123734763
>Anons are clearly talking about Risebell build
>Risebell is a normie Pendulum, a card that would work with Painful Decision

And yet hear you are spreading your stupidity and autism everywhere. Good job
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>>123734763
>Risebell
>Flash knight
STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES
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>Anon tries to BTFO other Anons
>Gets BTFO himself
I mean, at least you tried but damn you're autistic as shit dude
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>>123679548
>Also, Blue Layer should've let you draw an extra card after shuffling whatever amount you did into the deck when she's sent to the grave.
I actually thought this too, but I think I underrated the effect, since it's basically totally free gravy on top of an etb effect you'd play it for even if it had no other effect, and it allows you to play only 1 of each Mecha Beast (though lists I've seen always seem to play 2 Granpulse-- I thought the reason was 1 to summon and 1 to xyz change into Fully Armored Black Ray Lancer but I've seen a list with 2 and no Black Ray Lancer so I honestly don't know. My best guess now is that it lets you put 2 out to blow up 2 scales at a time instead of just 1 which doesn't really affect pendulum decks). It's not good but it's sufficient I guess is how I feel.

Would have been pretty sweet if it did draw a card though.
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>>123734763
>>123734904
>>123734934
>>123735248
Just use Summone'rs Art to add the vanillas to the hand retards, why the fuck would you use an overpriced as fuck secret rare when you can use the common summoner's art from the magician deck?
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>>123735630
>L5 or higher
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>>123735630
>Summoner's art
>For a level 3
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Don't reply to him. His b8 game is getting weaker
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>>123735630

>Summoner's Art for level 3 and 4 vanillas

You must be baiting
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>>123735630
>Level 5 or higher
>Risebell and Flash Knight are level 3 and 4
This is getting out of hand
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>>123735630
>Use Summoner's Art
>SUMMONER'S ART
>To add a Level 3 or a Level 4 to your hand

You are just on a fucking roll today
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Thanks for the (You)'s guys.
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>>123736057
No problem desu. Have another.
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>>123736057
If "full of shit" a meme?
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>>123734302
>>123734237
Why play Unexpected dai? Except for the occasional Rank 4 or 3 it seems like waste considering you need those scales in hand.

How many are recommended? 2?
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>>123736210
Man I wish An Unexpected Dai could have a real legitimate reason to be used. I love that card. But I have a soft spot for vanillas. I hope we get another vanilla pendulum Bujin eventually to have an opposite scale to Hiruko.
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>play a monarch user
>his deck is so monster dependent that he literally has nothing to counter a First of the Dragons and I can just stall him to death
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>>123736210
Two. It's dead when you have field presence, but if you've got it and anjelly, then that's a live tiaramisu.
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>>123734904
>>123734934
>>123735248
>>123735493
>sending pendulum cards to the grave and not extra deck
Its shit
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>>123736545

was the shitter not running Stormforth?
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>>123736483
I have a playset of Unexpected Dai rotting on my binder since they came out, I pulled the 3 from entry packs on my locals and nobody wants them but at the same time I not even sure if I want to trade them either since they have virtually no value and Konami continues sperging vanilla pendulum shit.
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"Johnson, our profit margins are through the roof, what do we suggest we do to improve our forecast?"

"Well this meta we have is pretty diverse, people seem to like the fact that there is a ritual based deck, a fusion based deck, an xyz based deck and synchro based deck as well as a deck supporting our new pendulum mechanic. But what we need to do now is get rid of all of that shit and go back to a tier 0 based meta where everyone pendulum summons."
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>>123736678
>Hootcake food
>Shit
Also searches any of the numbered harpie ladies.
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>>123736210
I personally don't run Dai, but then, I'm a scrub so I'm probably missing out on sick tech

>>123736678
You just keep going, huh
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>>123736884
>synchro based deck
FUCKING LOL
Daily reminder that we're in the middle of the Arc-V era and every other mechanic has had a Tier 1 archetype EXCEPT for Synchros
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I'm paranoid about niggers stealing my shit if I go to locals/regionals.

what security measures do you guys employ?
thinking about getting a portable alarm or some shit.


also anyone use a shuffling machine irl? my friends always 2 lazy 2 shuffle
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>>123736884
This game reaches it's peak every time we get a Tier 0 deck, or 2 decks at least raping everything else.

Everyone knows that even if they don't want to accept it.
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>>123736884
"Where every fucking turn wavering eyes into draco slayer cancer bullshit helmet faggotry mongoloid plays for days assfuckery."
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>>123737223
>I'm unable to accept change
That's a warning sign for autism.
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>>123737098
>what security measures do you guys employ?
Not being retarded and watching my shit
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I found some old Yugioh magazines in my basement.

Can you get all 20?
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I'm new to Yugioh, is this an ok deck? Also, are the graydle monsters treated like spell/traps when they are equipped to an enemy monster. If so, can you negate their effects with effect veiler or breakthrough skill?
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>>123737861
I'm guessing it depends on if both Relinquished have monsters equipped. They didn't specify that monsters were equipped so let's just say they're on the field as is, so they would both die since they both have 0 ATK. I would think, anyway.
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>>123738316
They're treated as spells when equipped, so they can be MST'd.
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>>123738316
You might need a few more monsters, bro.
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>>123738420
>they would both die
0 vs 0 means nothing happens, you can't destroy without any attack.
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>>123738556

Do you have a single fact to back that up?
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>Looking up prices of cards from 2003
>Polymerization was $25-45
>Flame Swordsman was $10-20
>Raigeki was $10-25

>>123738420
To my knowledge, in your situation, neither would be destroyed since 0 ATK monsters can't destroy anything.
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>>123738435
Are they treated as monsters as well? I just played against a guy that used effect veiler on his main phase to get back his own monster.
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>>123738606
>http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/ATK
>"The only exception to this would be when both monsters have 0 ATK, in which case neither monster is destroyed."

Trip on Vorcia
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>>123738537
What do you suggest? I've heard of a build combining Kaiju and Graydles that is pretty good.
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>>123738714
Is this implying that Relinquished's effect activates on attack? Is that some old stupid thing that got errata'd out?
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>>123725645
Are these models just made up on the spot or does every monster get drawn with full artwork that's cropped for the card?
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>>123738717
No you were cheated. One because you can't fucking veiler a spell, and two because veiler can't even be used in the players own main phase.
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>>123738606
It says so in the rulebook dipshit
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>>123738934
No, Beckett is a notoriously shitty fan magazine. I remember getting them for a while as a kid too, and even back then there was incredibly wrong info being spread around that you could easily google to find the correct info. I remember one issue made when GX first started airing in Japan that said Crowler was the dorm head for Slifer and Banner was the head for Obelisk
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>zombie
>doesn't have 0 def
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>>123735608
If you just have one of each, then if any get banished, the whole Magnas strategy is pretty doomed.
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Why did Kaiba's starter deck have such spooky cards?
He wasn't even dark in the anime
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>>123739480
>FIRE
>has over 200 def
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>>123739480
>Zombie
>Doesn't have a graveyard effect
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Which one did you get as a kid /dng/?
Where my Joey bros at?
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>>123739480
U talkin' shit bout muh waifu?
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>>123740091
Yugi
Pegasus was the objectively best one though
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>>123740091
Kaiba, then Yugi. My first ever Yugioh purchase though was a few Japanese LOB boosters that K-Mart had for whatever reason.
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>>123739480
>Fiend type
>not dark
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>>123740730
Look at how many Light Fiend monsters there are.
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>>123740891
Dont reply to me Vorcia
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>>123740730
>Fairy
>they're actually angels
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>>123738742
>>http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/ATK
>>"The only exception to this would be when both monsters have 0 ATK, in which case neither monster is destroyed."
WHAT.

I feel as if a good fraction of my life has been a lie.
>>
What do you want to see as the next summoning method?


I want cards that are summoned from the extra deck via a sacrifice of a specific monster and a certain cost of life points. The duelist and their monster fuse.
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>>123743118
Proper transformations. Maindeck cards that swap places with extra deck cards. Think of it like mask change, except inherent with some small cost, and when it would leave the field, it goes back to extra and the original goes to grave/deck.
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What decks strategies would be stronger if you could run four copies of a card instead of three?
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>>123740091
Believe I was all about dat Yugi pack. A recall a friend getting Joey and promptly stomping me for thinking I had protag powers.
>That feel when you couldn't build a deck for shit
>You always lost 1st round in tourneys at the local 10-20 mans
>Card shop closes
>Cousin is into the game
>Buy a DT box
>Build C.Beasts
>Give cousin the leftovers
>MISPLAYS FOR DAYS
>Cousin moves, give him CBeast deck complete with case and sleeves
>Cousin actively avoids rest of family now, mom is a cunt
>mfw his only friend, me, and that deck were his only pieces of happiness
Did you make someone happy with card games?
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>>123743264
All of them.
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>>123743264
Exodia :^)
Lightsworn
Super Quantums
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>>123743407
A girl exchanged "happy endings" for cards on my local shop a long time ago.
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>>123743118
>I want cards that are summoned from the extra deck via a sacrifice of a specific monster and a certain cost of life points
So basically a shittier version of HERO's?
>The duelist and their monster fuse.
Like what happened in the Noah arc in DM where you have a deck master? Could be neat.
>Proper transformations. Maindeck cards that swap places with extra deck cards. Think of it like mask change, except inherent with some small cost, and when it would leave the field, it goes back to extra and the original goes to grave/deck.
So basically a faster, more broken version of Pendulum?
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>>123743535
>Prostitution
>For cards
If there isn't already a doujin for this, there needs to be. Pic related seems like the perfect type for it, too.
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>dueling Kozmofags
>Leave them at 3000 life points and after attacking with Vortex and Xiangke
>overlay into Flare Metal
>They burn themselves to 500 to summon Dark Destroyer
>they target Red-Eyes for its effect
>didnt even bother reading
>that activation burned him 500 more
>runs over Red-Eyes
>they have 500 LP left
>my hand is at 0 with a scale 6 and 8 and no level 7s
>tfw topdecking pic related
>kill them to 0
>Game allows me to continue while he's dead
>surrenders
>/dng/ hates sacky cards
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>>123744219
Oops, meant they were at 1000 when they summon DD
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>>123692140
Fuck me, that's beautiful.

I just wish it didn't have the stupid ass "release date" and Coretcg written on it
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>>123743694
Not quite. Synergy with pendulums, but really it's an excuse to have an actual magical girl archetype.
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>>123744219
Decklist?
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>>123743868
She actually looks like that, and she is a proper prostitute now.

We were friends back then but her current sugar daddy is very paranoic so we don't talk much anymore.
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>>123744526
Better?
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>>123745149
Needs Hungry Burger somewhere
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>>123745231
What we need is someone creating a Star Wars-like theme that fits with Kozmo
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>>123745149
Much appreciated, m8.
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>>123744219
>Watch DN admin duel some dude
>Kozmofag
>He plays DOG fighter
>Everyone openly mocking him for playing it
>B-but it's great for the mirror, guiz
>Loses 0-4 against Infernoids
>A deck Majespecter and Kozmo shouldn't have issues stomping
>Claims he opened bad even though he had e-tele, farmgirl, etc in hand 2nd game, wickedwitch in 3rd, and had the standard Kozmo hands for all 4
>I b-bet your decks brick, t-too
>Point out his ratios are shit, he's shit, and should contemplate playing sudoku
>>123744868
>Magical girl archtype
I feel like we've been down this road before
>>123745143
>Looks like Rin
>Didn't assert your dominance
>Didn't claim her
>And then whore her out for cards
>mfw
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>>123746147
>I feel like we've been down this road before
Several times. Every time, someone says fortune ladies, and every time I say one that doesn't suck.
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>>123744891
Plz bully
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>>123746238
>one Odd-Eyes Fusion
>Luster Pendulum
>No Ignister
>Omega with no way of summoning it
>Dark Rebellion
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>>123746238
Eh. Could be better.
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>>123746936
>Replies to a trash build with an even shittier build
I'll never understand you shitters
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>>123746147
/blog

Nigga she is greddy as fuck, I know her worse side very well and no amount of dominance or dick would convice her to settle down or give anyone else her money.
She may look cute or innocent to the common eye, but her hungry for money and hypocrisy makes Konami look like a charity.

I always told her to save some money and make a savings account but she never listens, now I just don't bother, I know very well that in some years she will either try to settle down with one of her sugar daddies or settle down with me because reasons.

Not that Im interest in her, but eh. /blogend
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>>123746936
>Running Yuzu
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>>123747221
Shadow Duel me then, with your obviously better build.
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>>123746147
DOG Fighter is actually really good though, mostly for the mirror match
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>>123747461
YUZUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>123747762
why the mirror?
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Could you cuties comment on my ratios?

Hopefully the 3x Anti-Pepe Fragrances help out.
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>>123747762
>DOG Fighter is actually really good though
Hahahahaha
>mostly for the mirror match
HAHAHAHA
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anyone have a good exodia ftk list?

iwant to become the cancer
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>>123748070
>Air force over dust force
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>>123748201
good topping players: *runs dog fighter*
/dng/: LALALA I CANT HEAR YOU ITS JUST A MEME
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>>123748264
The fuck does dust force do?
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>>123748353
It's the earth mirror force
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PRINTED MOTHERFUCKERS
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>>123730238
what you said is
"None. They are all sacky and bad for the game."
what he said was
">every card on the banlist is sacky and bad for the game"
the only way that this could have been said any differently is by replacing the word and with or and its still the same implication
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>>123748809
What is that?
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>>123748440
Right.. well I'll look into it.
There's the obvious advantage of not feeding my opponents hand and flooding up his field with useless cards, letting my engine do its job.

Sounds like a good call in pure Geargia. I'd opt for Storming in the Kuri variant since clearing the field for OTKs, but Burying looks good here.
It's not TCG yet though.

And we're getting Notice pretty soon too, meaning it's likely that the Forces are just gonna get swapped out for those.

Anything else you'd like to point out?
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>>123748992
The original post was talking about ''broken ass cards''. We weren't talking about every card on the banlist.
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>>123749245
Moonlight Cat Dancer, the boss monster of a fusion based beast-warrior anime archtype that revolves around battling and extra attacks. Serena, the character that uses them, debuted them like a year ago so it's about time they get printed.
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>>123749607
You could have just said ''irrelevant shit''.
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>>123748345
And I repeat
>Lost 0-4 WITH DOG fighter
>To Infernoid
Stop being a fucking retard
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>>123748809
This can't be real. I'm gonna keep on being mad about this until Abyss Actors get printed.
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>somehow managed to beat full power PePe on YGOPro

God damn, I love you Anti-Pepe Fragrance
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>when they finally release minerva and giant hand for the masses

i would literally cum. yeah yeah i know "git gud"
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>>123681634
that was actually me no joke
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>Waited months
>Finally come back
>They added literally three Kaiju cards
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Is this still real nigga hours
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There weren't any feature matches for Brazil?
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so, when will this card be banned again?
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>One turn/1st turn kills are becoming more common every year

Does Konami even care about the game or do they realize it'll be dead in 5-10 years so they're wringing it dry for everything they can?
This series is doomed to implode on itself
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I swear I just dueled a bot or someone insanely high, the guy was making plays not only fast as fuck but was perfectly typing out what he was doing at the same exact second with proper grammar.
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>>123757592
on DN?
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>>123757695
Yeah
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>>123757085
New archetype. All its monsters, Continuous Spells/Traps, and Field Spells have "If this card is returned to the hand or Deck:" (or "Extra Deck" for the Extra Deck monsters).
Also, Giant Trunade comes back. :^)
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>>123757515
>In an era where they are cutting back on soft OPTs with Hard OPTs they release a counter trap fetcher that negates payments, and has no OPT at all.

It's ogre.
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>>123754379
>handholding pro
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>>123758823
Good for testing because games are quicker
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>>123758876
Also you should try burying mirror force if you have spqce unless they play partnaga to tribute summon they have no outs
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>Come here to ask for deck advice
>get told its shit and to run a PePe deck
>go to /vp/ to discuss Pokemon
>half the threads are PePe posting
There really is no escape
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>>123758928
Pretty much certain that I'll run Burying already, since it's basically a straight upgrade from Storming. But it's still in the OCG and I'm keeping my decks nice and pure TCG.

Once they come out I'll be looking to fit Burying and Notice.
Those along with Raff should make Geargia quite a bit better.
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So its agreed we all buy a box of BOSH

>Infinity
>Rafflesia
>Solemn Notice
>Neptabyss
>Ariadne
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>>123759753
I'm hype as fuck for Raff.
CDI is nice and all, but god damn it takes up the extra deck.
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Soul of Silvermountain just does work in Geargia.
I love the little thing
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>>123733980
>They are if there top decks dont even use any of those cards bar solemn,
>Circus doesn't use Cock Master
Wot r u on familia??
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ALL MEMES
ZERO ARIADNE
ALL CLASH BUILDS
43 days until BOSH fucks the TCG meta ;^)
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>Next Arc-V episode contains new Yugo's dragon
>Cat dancer confirmed on SHVI so Crystal Wing should be on the pack too

I CAN'T WAIT FOR NEXT WEEK, PLEASE, DON'T BE SHIT, CLEAR WING IS ALREADY HALF GOOD
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>>123765287
next week you mean tuesday
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>>123743118
I honestly don't want more summoning methods, just better utilization of the ones we already have.
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>>123765373
no, I mean sunday
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>>123766321
underage?
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>>123766376
;)
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>>123740091
Pegasus all the way.

The man was the classiest of rogues with a theme song to match:

https://youtu.be/yy7td3qoXHc?t=9

Though their summoning conditions and various nerfs was a shock to a kid who was expecting something more in line with the show, getting so many high-powered Toon Monsters in one set was a real treat for my younger self and Relinquished made for an unconventional, if extremely potent, ace monsters. You know those schmucks in the shows that go "no attack points? Lame!" That was me until I read its effect.
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>>123759563
>Pretty much certain that I'll run Burying already, since it's basically a straight upgrade from Storming
I mean, you know that's not right, right? I dunno why people here are so on Sand Force. You'd think it puts monsters into the absolutely-freaking-removed-from-the-game-forever zone when all it actually does is leave the monsters on the field for you to have to run over. You have to use another answer afterwards to deal with those things again. That's not very efficient at all. At least Air Force gets rid of the monsters outright for a turn and lowering the opponent's momentum for you to capitalize on. Sand Force barely affects their momentum and blunts yours by not only not allowing you to swing, but also still having to play answers instead of threats to deal with it. I'm sure Sand Force can still have a niche but I don't think the niche as a "straight upgrade" to Air Force.
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>>123743118
So like what Vanguard is doing now but specific? example, summon "Monster A" then use "EXtra deck spell" to summon bigger version from extra deck, let's call "Monster A+" uses original monster like Xyz but function, becoming part of it, more like a fusion monster, this monster in effect use. Function more like Neo Spacian fusions in that they return to the extra deck but the original monster returns. Make these new extra deck monsters red to differentiate.

>>123765684
Yeah, gotta agree. there. Thought that's what we were getting with Arc-V, but now it's gone all Pendulum retardedness. Really hope Pendulums go away entirely in the game.
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>>123766508
>shockingpikachu987
>that intro
Old Youtube was cringeworthy.
Bakc on topic, Pegasus was truly fucked up. I doubt know what the most creepy thing about him. The fact that he's 26, he talks gay as fuck, has a dead wife who he wants to bring back, loves fucking around with people or that loves cartoons despite his age.
I'm glad Bakura killed him in the manga, good riddance
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>>123767571
>but now it's gone all Pendulum retardedness. Really hope Pendulums go away entirely in the game.
I mean, you know the best Pendulum deck is the best Pendulum deck because it's actually the best Rank 4 deck, right? It's actually Xyz that are ruining the game.
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>>123767571
I think Pendulums are fine. Performapal needs to get neutered a bit, but it's an all right mechanic.
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>>123767898
>It's actually Xyz that are ruining the game.
You shut
SHUT
SHUT
YOUR WHORE MOUTH
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>>123768056
>implying HOPU and its evolutions are balanced.
>implying Castel ;) is irrelevant
>implying Rank 8 isn't the reason people care about D R A G O N S nowadays
>implying Rank 4 isn't why PePe is as bad as it is.
>implying it didn't give EVERY deck a full extra deck regardless of their monsters.
Synchro was AIDS : It's horrible but you can live with it so long as you live smart. xyz is cancer : It just deteriorates the body until there's nothing left
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>>123768056
...but anon.
That's entirely true.
The entire overwhelming power of the best deck of the coming format is due to a bunch of generic black cards, the decks just good at summoning them.
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>>123768336
>>123768372
SHUT UP JUST SHUT UP
SHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUP
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>>123768479
NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU REFUTE IT.
REALITY WILL NOT CHANGE.
ACCEPT IT.
RANK 4 IS CANCER.
>>
Whoever said something about a new Summon mechanic that was a "fusion" between the player and a monster (whether or not it would actually use lifepoints as a cost to do it), I think you were on to something really smart.
>>
Let's put it to a vote, then.

http://strawpoll.me/6133339
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>>123767642
>has a dead wife who he wants to bring back,

No, anon, didn't you watch the dub? She turned into a flower.
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>>123768850
This sounds cool, but they'd have to have a hard limit of 1 on either side of the field unless otherwise specified on the card.
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>>123769271
I hadn't really thought of any specific things about it, just that a mechanic that puts an avatar of the player onto the board would be a totally new thing for Yugioh and it seems like something that'd make for a good anime, even if it's something that's already done a lot.
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666 POST TIME TO BRING GOD INTO THIS GENERAL
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>>123769679
Nice job
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Post cards with great art.

>>123769679
Dude, Om Is amazing. Thought everyone in dng had shit taste.
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>>123770120
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>>123770120
cards with great art.
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>>123769385
We do have a bit of precedent for it. Hope Zexal for one, and several monsters from DM being ancient Egyptians. Plus I'd adore versions of monsters like Neos and Rainbow Dragon revolving around this mechanic, old busted-ass monsters that are useless being retrained as support for their archetype.

I'm also a huge sucker for new Extra Deck type cards. Your idea's way better than mine, though.
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>>123769679
TIME TO BRING GOD INTO THIS GENERAL
>>123770120
cards with great art
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>>123770561
>that useless surprise box

You should kill yourself.
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I took a break a while ago but missing my shitty lil petdeks has made me curious about getting back into the game.
What's the new hotness now? What should I start learning?
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Holy shit I haven't been here in ages, how is YGO doing
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>>123770120
cards with great art
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>>123770789
Cancerously
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>>123770738
>>123770789
Don't bother playing anything other than PePe or Pendulum Magicians.
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>>123770789
I fucking hate PePe. Had some of the most boring games ever because I OTK'd everyone. Most people just scooped as soon as I started playing.
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>>123770789
Its too complex for people who can't use a question mark. Stay away.
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>>123770789
Competitive play is really bullshit right now. "Open an unbreakable board that recycles itself and/or completely stops your opponent from playing on your first turn or you lose" is how the game works right now.

Casual play's some of the most fun shit that's been around in a while, though. Lots of good decks at the casual level, all of which can play well against each other without anyone feeling particularly underpowered. Unless you're playing one of the nostalgiabait retrain archetypes, in which case I'm sorry.
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>>123770894
Time to get started on the pendurum shokan then, I suppose
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Kozmeme won YCS Brazil for anyone who cares
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>>123771062
>Competitive play is really bullshit right now. "Open an unbreakable board that recycles itself and/or completely stops your opponent from playing on your first turn or you lose" is how the game works right now.

This is how the game always has worked at competitive levels whenever the power level spikes, it isn't a new thing unique to now.
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>>123771026
>>123771050
>>123771062
Hang on, let me try the CANCER TEST

Is the deck more degenerate than dragon rulers? If the answer is no (it is no) then the game can't be as cancerous as it was back then, since then you at least had Prophecy as a second viable deck.

If the answer is yes, then why are we still playing
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>>123771443
where are the feature matches?
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>>123771449
I never implied it was something new, but that IS how the game is working right now.
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>>123771629
The answer is fucking yes, and not even by a small margin bitch boi
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>>123771645
That you thought it was a notable discovery you've posted about at least twice now, while you didn't say it was something new, I kind of thought it was implied, but my bad if that wasn't your intention.
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>Top 8 of Sao Paulo was 1 Satellarknight, 1 PePe, and 6 Kozmemes
Hoban status: BTFO
>>123771636
There were none since Konami truly doesn't give a fuck at this point.
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>>123771706
What.
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>>123771750
How many time till Hoban enters "I-It doesn't count ;)" mode?
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>>123771706
>Pepe more degenerate than Dragon Fucking Rulers
GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>123771804
Did
he
stutter
?
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>>123771852
Eh... I mean... I could see it, at least in the OCG at full power. I think we just don't see it as much because we don't really have tournaments like that anymore, both in numbers and using either OCG or imaginary formats.
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>>123771819
>Tournament in a meme country like Brazil
DOESN'T
FUCKING
COUNT
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>>123771804
Emem can open boards with combinations of multiple solemns/other counter traps, infinity (when Ptol was legal), shock master, raff, and/or other xyz monsters. Even D R A G O N S designed specifically to beat Emem lose to generic Emem builds.
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>>123771804
>>123771852
>>123772128
>Even D R A G O N S designed specifically to beat Emem lose to generic Emem builds.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27644715
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>>123771629
I'll give you an idea
Remember "Laggia set 5 ;^)"?
Alright
replace Laggia with 5 beaters that can always search/replenish themselves or have some sort of protection, and if you're playing OCG, those 5 sets are all Solemns and similarly degenerate cards
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>>123772568
Ok exaggerating scenarios doesn't help prove anything, they play like 5-6 traps at most, they're not going to open all 5 and then also open with a way of making 5 beaters that search and replace themselves that's like physically impossible. A deck isn't as good as its best case scenario, from from it, and that's like beyond that. Performapendulums are ridonkulously good and I think they are probably better than Dragon Rulers overall but come on.
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>>123771745
Ah, sorry. I probably should've indicated that it was a recurring state of the game.

It really doesn't get less bullshit each time it happens, though. Been playing tournaments on and off since the very beginning, and the "off" is usually right after a power spike like this.

I honestly wouldn't even be in /dng/ rignt now if the casualfag cards weren't still hella fun. ZeXal era casual/anime decks were garbage.
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>>123772772
Not 5 beates but close enough
>>123733056
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>>123772772
You know those 5-6 traps are searchable right? 3 counters and 3 beaters is a pretty average first turn for them, 4 beaters and 5 sets is good but nothing miraculous.
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>>123772772
>they're not going to open all 5 and then also open with a way of making 5 beaters that search and replace themselves that's like physically impossible.

They can have at least 2 set Traps and 5 monsters on the field. That's pretty bad on its own. He exaggerated, yes, but not as badly as you say.
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>>123772772
>Performapendulums are ridonkulously good and I think they are probably better than Dragon Rulers overall but come on.
They aren't probably better than Dragon Rulers. They are hands down significantly better than Rulers were in their prime.
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>>123772337
ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS PUT A OPT CLAUSE ON PLUSHFIRE, ARDIANE, LUSTER DRACO AND HATTRICKER.
Will busting out Blue eyes silver dragon and Azure eyes Silver Dragon on the the first turn our only hope of stopping EmEm ?
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>>123772337
I gave up trying to make sense of this around the point where the EMEm player's Solemns that he somehow searched out weren't even making him pay the LP costs

Does Konami even give a shit about balance anymore
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>>123773518
scret rare anti-mEME tech
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>>123773702
>destroy all cards in the spell and trap card zone.
Great, what about the pendulum scales, shock master, Traptrix xyz and other Rank 4 they have?
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>>123773002
>ZeXal era casual/anime decks were garbage.
Eh, I think that's when they actually started to pick up and they started to push anime theme decks though I think that was closer to the middle-ending rather than throughout the whole era.
>>123773038
>>123773118
>>123773150
All I was saying was that it was a pretty big exaggeration. 5 monsters and 5 set traps is not what happens there and it doesn't actually happen all that often, even in the Ariadne version. A perfect hand with 2 traps and 3 monsters one of which is Ariadne will probably net only 4 traps by the end of it. I know that not every single hand gets me 5 beaters and 5 traps from playing the deck. Traps in fact rarely actually factor into it. I have a hard enough time just seeing Luster Pendulum, and it's equally as likely I see Ariadne as him, except my Waverings will be spent search him instead so technically I see Ariadne even less. Lots of traps factor into the nut hands more than the average hand with the deck is all I'm saying primarily.
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>>123773683
;^)

Do some OCG build also run Curse of the Forbidden Spell? Considering you no longer pay the cost to activate it and it permanently fucks Heavy/Duster
>>
>>123773893
Did you read Ariadne?
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>>123773274
This.

Nekroz, D-Rulers and Circus Act are the strongest decks Yugioh have ever seen at their full powers, the so-called tier-0 decks. Nekroz took that spot due to an enormous amount of disruption, search power and general utility with every one of their cards, and the ability to lock out your foe from Special Summoning easily with the Djinnlock. They never went -1 due to these reasons. It's likewise with D-Rulers, having massive consistency with almost every card having a way to start off a combo and easily putting stuff on the board while never losing advantage.
Circus Act, on the other hand, has the same advantages of being obscenely consistent, easily able to bring out powerful bosses and disrupt the opponent and most cards being able to start combos with other cards, but Circus Act one-ups both these decks by using Pendulum shit to never, NEVER lose advantage from paying costs like for Sorcerer and Plusfire. This means, while generally they'd be going +-0 for Plushfire, they're going +1 on every use of it because it's easily summonable from where it is. Not only that, few of their cards have OPT clauses like Nekroz and D-Rulers do, so they can easily pull 3 Plusfire effects a turn to go +3, potentially more if they get anything that plusses on its own as many of their cards do. And then you have Ignister. Fucking Ignister and Dracoslayer are two of the single most broken-ass monsters in the game, and Circus Act utilizes them better than anyone else.
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>>123774037
Don't forget X-DAD, it was T0.
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>>123774037
The only question is how will Konami power-creep this even further
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>>123774030
>You do not discard cards to activate Counter Trap Cards.
Did you?
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>>123769385
I don't want this shit until I get Armor Monsters and Avatar of Red.
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>>123772337
>triple Dr.Flare can't stop the MeMes.
Don't worry, take the true counter to MeMes courtesy of Seto Kaiba
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>>123774208
Maybe that mechanic will be how they do it? I guess that wouldn't stay true to the anime though. If they ever did something like that they probably wouldn't remake those cards to fit the mechanic, but maybe they'd make new legacy support that did.
>>123774254
I still think this card would be better if it just removed what the effects actually say and just said
(1) Fucking Pendulum Summoning
(2) Fuck Performages, Burning Abyss, and Monarchs
(3) The other bullshit thing this card does it doesn't really matter since you used effects (1) and (2).
>>123774037
>>123773518
I also strongly disagree that this stuff not being hard opt is really that notable of a factor in what makes the deck so good. I think the deck would still be in a similar position just getting one effect off it per turn.
>>123773893
No, none of them do, you don't really want Ariadne as your scale anyway, at least to stay there. It can but it's not really what you want, he's just there to float into solemns. Maybe if you were playing a dedicated Counter Fairy Pendulum deck or something.
>>
WHY THE FUCK IS ARIADNE A GLASS FAIRY???
>>
>>123774118
Tele-DAD was only T0 because Yugioh was young as fuck. It's nowhere nearly as powerful as full-power Nekroz and Dragon Rulers.

Here's my official Power Levels of Full-power decks, assuming somehow there was no banlist. In descending order tier-wise.

Tier 0
FTK degeneracy
Circus Act (This is debatable due to Shock Master, these two are interchangable on the list)

Tier 1
Dragon Rulers
Nekroz
Fuccboi Mermails
Qliphorts
Hieratics

Tier 2
Synchro masturbation decks
Inzektors
Spellbooks
Infernities
Kozmo

Tier 3 and below is everything else.

>>123774148
They can't. They need to butcher Circus Act and forget it happened.
>>
Help me break this card interaction:
>Dark Doriado
>Enchanted Fitting Room

The best vanillas of each Attribute in my opinion are: Tune Warrior,The Igknight reverse scales, Risebell and the Draconian Level 3.
>>
>>123774860
er, what about noble knights?
>>
>>123774647
>I still think this card would be better if it just removed what the effects actually say and just said
>(1) Fucking Pendulum Summoning
>(2) Fuck Performages, Burning Abyss, and Monarchs
>(3) The other bullshit thing this card does it doesn't really matter since you used effects (1) and (2).

Add "Ignoring any summoning conditions to the third effect" and it would be the Undisputed MeMe counter.
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>>123774860
>Kozmo
They may be uncontested in the TCG currently. But even if it may be under the TCG/OCG format, even my pet decks regularly beat Kozmos.

So Kozmos are no doubt powerful. But they are hardly on the list of best decks of all time if they regularly fold to pet decks.
Kozmos will fall in the TCG when we get new cards unless the future Kozmo support ends up being some truly broken shit.
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>>123774860
The bad part about Performapendulums is that it's really a combination of so many factors that makes the deck strong. There's not really any individual thing you could hit. Maybe Luster Pendulum but that's kind of a joke when you think about it since Luster Pendulum is really not THAT good, just a perfect storm has occurred around him. Plus I don't even know if that's enough with Pendulum Wizard and Wavering still around. But hitting either of those would probably have less impact than hitting Luster Pendulum. They really ARE gonna have the butcher the deck into pieces in order to make it not good at all.
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>>123774860
That list is bad and you should feel bad
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>>123775190
1. Plushfire
2. Damage Juggler
3. Monkeyboard

These are the problem cards. Throw in Trick Clown too if the above isn't enough.
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>>123770449
Try harder.
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>>123774860
>Mermails and Qliphorts
>On the same level as Dragon Rulers
lol, if you're being that generous spellbooks really should be on the same level. Spellbooks are definitely better than Kozmos. I think people's outlook on Spellbooks is kind of dulled by the fact they occurred with Dragon Rulers, but the deck was pretty fucking insane dude, just worse than Rulers. I think if Kozmo deserves to get listed here, Burning Abyss at least the version of the deck at full power right now in OCG should too, since it's the only deck besides distant third Monarchs that is able to compete with Performapendulums. I'd say they're like the Spellbooks to the Dragon Rulers.
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>>123775023
My mistake. I must have forgotten Noble Knights in my Tier 0 breakdown. After waiting for Merlin it's obvious they deserve a spot.

>>123775129
I put Kozmos on the list there due to the fact that cards like Dimension Fissure, Allure of Darkness and Macro Cosmos, if they came off the list, would lead to some truly broken shit with the deck. Besides, they're at the lowest end of the list behind Inzektors, Mermails, Qlis and Hieratics because they're essentially a lite version of those decks at full power, OTK or nothing. It's just that, as of right now, Kozmos are lacking cards that make them as consistent as the others at full power. Especially Mermail, who seem to have slipped under the radar completely and might actually make a splash when we get Neptabyss, even against the overwhelming Circus Act.

>>123775267
Would you like to make your own and show me what you feel is an upgrade?
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>>123775470
It's just ridiculous. I read these cards, they're definitely good (at least definitely good in context as with Plushfire, who I don't think is that good in vacuum but kind of gets insane in context), but are they really on the same level as some of the stuff on the list? It's kind of funny to imagine.
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http://imgur.com/a/im1Ln

worth buying for 100usd?
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>>123775932
Nigga fuck off and look up the prices. Its not that fucking hard. Kill yourself.
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>>123775552
Mermails are insanely consistent, as are Qlis with Sacqlifice and Scout at 3, and they easily dole in excess of 8000 damage a turn. They both deserve to be on the list with Dragon Rulers, by far.

>lol, if you're being that generous spellbooks really should be on the same level. Spellbooks are definitely better than Kozmos.

Spellbooks should at least be above Inzektors, you're right.

>I think people's outlook on Spellbooks is kind of dulled by the fact they occurred with Dragon Rulers, but the deck was pretty fucking insane dude, just worse than Rulers.

You're probably right. As a devoted D-Ruler deck I personally never met a Spellbook player that could beat me, so I'm almost certainly biased on this.

>I think if Kozmo deserves to get listed here, Burning Abyss at least the version of the deck at full power right now in OCG should too

Ehh, I hesitate to do that. BA is powerful, but the Rank 3 toolbox just isn't good enough to match anything there. They don't even have an out to Dark Destroyer except Acid Golem, for christ's sake. If R3 was at a similar level of even Rank 5/6 they'd certainly be in Tier 1 above Hieratics, but as it stands they're just not strong enough with even 3 Tour Guide.

Also, shit. Monarchs should be in there too, I forgot about them in Tier 1.
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What the fuck is Troll and Toad doing why the fuck has it not shipped for 2 days
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I'm gonna throw it out now: Qliphorts weren't that good. They were second fiddle to the deck they were designed to beat both mechanically and flavorfully within the story. They were still second place to El Shaddoll Fusion dolls in OCG
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>>123775932
>Trishula
>Stardust Spark
>Leo
FUCK YES. GET THAT SHIT.
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Dunno where I saw this, but which Archetype has these giant monsters and mechs? I wanna play them?

I haven't played YGO in a few years so I haven't kept up with everything.
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>>123776173
>leo
Leo is worth almost nothing
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why are japs siding graydle eagle?
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>>123776071
>I'm gonna throw it out now: Qliphorts weren't that good

Are you kidding, anon? Are you forgetting that Qlis could maindeck Lose 1 Turn, Skill Drain and Vanity's Emptiness, all at 3, and suffer no penalties whatsoever? Not to mention Scout and Saqlifice. The amount of times I wasn't allowed to play the damn game against them was heinous.
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>>123776173
>>123776308
That's a super Stardust spark so neither is that.
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>>123776308
>>123776439
Shut up, retard.
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>>123776534
Don't reply to me, faggot
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>>123774860
They can.

In two years we'll be complaining about Megasyloks that special summon from anywhere whenever you special summon one via any method and synchro/xyz summon into monsters that can sacrifice themselves for extra effects, enabling you to plus literally forever.

Then we'll be complaining about the pachinko machine archetype that literally turns the game into a RPS match.

We will always be powercreeping and we will never be free of this game
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>>123776225
Giant monsters are Kaiju, mechs are super quantum, there is no relation between the two.
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>>123776225
"H-hey guys! I-I'm here to help you fight that giant metal meanie and its dumb pilots! I mean, um, look at them! They're like wearing their underwear on the outside! Buncha technicolor gimp suits, amirite?"
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>>123775932
Yeah I looked up all of the prices on Yugioh Prices and it turns out that they're undervaluing all of their cards :3
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>>123776378
It's just a fact that Shaddolls were still very clearly better than Qliphorts, going by number of tops, in OCG where both decks were at full power. I don't know what's skewed your view on them but I mean, it's just how it was. Qiphorts had a lot of built in advantages over Dolls too, like being pendulum and tribute summon centric, voiding Winda and Construct, and having stuff like Shell specifically designed to do stuff like punch past defense position monsters and Falco set ups. OCG dolls had Star Seraphs that could make Shock Master so.

It's also very clear that Burning abyss are better than Monarchs going by results as well right now, so if Monarchs should be up there Burning Abyss DEFINITELY should be since we have the two concurrently at full power together in a format. It's provable
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>>123777142
why is this punching bag talking
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>>123776225
>IT'S MORPHIN' TIME!

But they're all ready morphed in that picture.
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>>123776934

I guess Super Quantums aren't in the TCG yet? Not seeing them on singles websites.
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>>123777314
Oh and Carrier bouncing instead of destroying monsters whereas Archive destroyed s/ts. Ltos of little things clearly meant to give them an edge over dolls that didn't actually work.
>>123777467
No, they are practically brand new as it is in the OCG
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>>123777467
How can you be this fucking retarded? Honestly, you should kill yourself.
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>>123777632
Rude much?
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