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Based Tychus edition

>What's new?
New map (it sucks). Store sale for good goyim. Waiting eagerly for doe cunt.
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/19960704/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-november-17-2015-11-17-2015

>where do I find you meme-loving faggots
/join /vg/

>What hero should I buy?
Find the ones you enjoy playing and buy those. Don't buy cheap heroes just to get into Hero League, it's not worth rushing into.

>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
FAQ | Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Free Hero Rotation: http://eu.battle.net/heroes/en/forum/topic/13604571130
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/raynor
News, Updates, and Datamining: http://www.heroesnexus.com/

old thread >>123497832
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first for HORSEPANTS
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>>123590598
Not when you're too stupid to pull back when they respawn.
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So we get Cho'gall for watching the tournament now right?
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>>123593091
>not having Cho'gall already
how much of a social retard can you even be?
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>>123593091
No, you get it for having a friend
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>>123593280
I just started playing again yesterday.
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What should I buy?

I have 10k, I was thinking Tyrande but I'm not sure
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>>123593572
TYRANDE
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>Grubby
>Oh wow, Morales is taking a different talent than usually, it's the...purple one?
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Is Sylvanus worth getting? Ever since she came out I've been intrigued but never got her
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>>123594906
She's really good.
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>>123595092
How do I play her?
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>>123595129
press q w e or r whenever needed
kill things
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Is there a worse streamer than Sham was, or was Sham the worst player in Heroes of the Storm?
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That fucking ending. GG Liquid.
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>>123595129
While everyone is distracted in a teamfight, sneak in another lane and destroy the towers
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>sneaky core

feels good man
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>>123595491
I'm so disappointed in LucifroN's E.T.C. Luckily his bro VortiX carried despite being ganked twice before level 7.
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Stitches is meta
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>>123593465
>/join general
>"lf someone to poz my neghole with ogre AIDS"
>get a response within seconds
>play two AI games
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What's the fucking deal with Murky?

>Sometimes shark gibs me in a stun
>Other times it does nothing

hate this fucking meme hero
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acne boy is tilted as fuck.
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>>123596219
are you asking why some times people take octograb and some times they don't, or??
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Earthbreaker Thrall or Bucanner Falstad
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>>123596582
>do I buy a good skin for a good hero or a shitty skin for a mediocre hero?
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>>123596219
level 10 shark does nothing but stun
levle 20 shark does some damage
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>>123592886
how is your arm doing?
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>want a qm
>join game
>garbage zera/nova on other team but good thrall+murky+valla

>my team pretty meh
>lose several tributes+team fights because zagara never leaves top lane until they're capping tribute/team is dead
>goes back n forth whole game
>Get to 20
>shitty nova on enemy team gets triple tap upgrade
>repeatedly kills our entire team one after the other because no one (especially diablo) blocks beams
>goes from 8 deaths 2 kills 3 assist to 10 deaths 16 kills in about 10-15 minutes
>their core is on 10% for at least 10-15 mins but I die twice trying to get it

>40 minute game

what a garbage friday evening this has turned into

in other news, I have gold to spend. Save for doubloon or buy zagara right now?
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>senjinn et all say locust build is shit
>Hot Slogs says its his best build
Which is it? Or, why is it considered to suck?
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Liquid are so fucking passive.
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>>123597996
It doesn't. Whoever said that is just bad at the game. It only sucks if the people you are playing with are terrible and can't survive to level 16.
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>>123598084
>group up as 5
>play so passive at the objective a single hero from the enemy team out-damages your entire team and they take the objective
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>play alone or with a friend who is actually good
>win mostly everytime
>play with friends
>lose everytime
i'm so tired now, fucking casual friends
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>>123598224
it's the tyrande hunter's mark, twice it got them the immortal.
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>>123597916


Buy Nova
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If Cho'Gall was a girl, she'd be Cho'Gal
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>>123598435
Got her, she's quite boring.
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>>123596219
Depends on how the murky builds

if he goes full damage (which he should) his full combo can do upwards of 2500 damage.
If he goes for survivability (which he shouldn't, he has a 3 second respawn timer) it does like 700
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wow
Falstad really is something now
I've been playing him again and I would say he's at the same level of Valla and Raynor (more or less)
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>>123600858
He was something before this patch, too. Most people are just too retarded to make use of his skillset properly.
He's pretty OP now
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>>123597916
buy zagara
then buy her desert queen skin
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>Shitquid
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Team Liquid what the fuck was that
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>>123601176
Yeah, and even the mage build is back
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>1% of the general is discussing their biggest tournament for a long time

ded scene
ded game
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>>123601506
>>123601513
This is Liquid's true form. Scared shitless.
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that was some rank 40 decision making on the core backdoor by team liquid

srs wtf was that baka desu senpai
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>>123601575

/hotsg/ isn't really a place to discuss heroes of the storm - it just sort of happens on occasion through boredom
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>>123601575

its been like 4 hours since blizzcon

why would we want to watch some third world countries play hots
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>>123601913
>its been like 4 hours since blizzcon
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>>123601575

>watching pro hots

hots is such a boring fucking game to watch. there's nothing complex or mechanically impressive happening ever
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That Liquid play was so shameful they turned off the stream.
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>>123602076
I'm just watching while eating. It's a shame it's not as fun to watch as Dota.
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>>123601575
I'd rather watch a paint dry.
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>>123601702
where can I watch it?
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>>123602313

Dota games are far more boring though.
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tfw johanna will never bully you irl
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>>123602375
You just spam this every thread lol
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>>123602405
http://www..tv/dreamhackheroes

Tune in quick because Liquid is about to get their shit pushed in.
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>>123602375

>game is completely free to play
>you can play every hero & every map in the game for free, no paywalls for anything but cosmetics
>KIKE CASH GRAB LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>123602619

>being this new
lol
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>>123602781
>he supports overpriced garbage like 20 yurobux unicorn
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>>123602987

>supports the abuse of Brony degenerates

you're damn right m8
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>>123602987
it's not like you're being forced to buy it
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>>123602709
ok, thanks!
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>Build guide recommends bribe on Brightwing

Why? She can't clear waves for shit. I tried it once and I managed like 4 bribe charges through the who game.

Is there any reason to not get Hyper Shift?
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>>123603098

>being this much of a braindead goy
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>>123603098
>all the food in my country is now overpriced
>but im not forced to buy it
>i starve to death
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>>123603282
>food is the same as a MLP mount in a free video game
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>>123603439
But i'm not forced to buy either of them :-]
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>>123603220
...which build guide?
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>>123597996
>bad players saying the best build is shit
Does this surprise anyone?
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>>123603697
After I get Jin'do the Godbreaker
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The almost throw of Team Liquid with that boss
wtf
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>>123603676
Something I found online of heroes fire looking for something different.

I am not convinced she can gather bribes fast enough for one, and if you want to not use bribe on the last merc, it takes way too long to kill it.
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>>123603585

you are forced to suck cock though ;^)
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>>123603845
Liquid is playing like shit. They're not even trying for objectives, instead just chasing hero kills all across the map.
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>>123603845
>actually watching hots
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>>123603908
He's not forced to, he does it willingly.
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>>123603908

just like you suck blizzard's cock? |:)
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>>123604064
>he does it for free
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>>123602375

>There are people ITT that actually spend more than 10 seconds of their life posting in this thread
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Anyone here wants to play? I'm trying to get back into HotS with Sylv after dropping it since July.

It seems the usual people I play with don't play the game anymore.
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>>123603697
maybe next year
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Matchmaking fix and voice comms when?
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>>123604194

snowstorms don't have penises, though
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What level 20 talent do you usually pick on Tyrande?

If it's not Hunter's swiftness you should consider killing yourself
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>>123604890
rewind for dank owl snipes
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>>123604890
Rewind :3
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>>123604890
Rewind of course
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>>123604890
Rewind for the memeist of kills
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>>123604890
rewind all day erryday
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LOL THAT ENDING
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okay even for a staged game, that ending was pretty intense.
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Team Liquid not even being able to kill a core.
gg.
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dat finish
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kek

get fucked liquid

>we can be memeing retards and play like ass and still win ;^)
>oh wait no we can't ;_;
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>Start playing quick meme
>We are doing slightly bad
>My internet randomly goes off for some reason
>Eventually it comes back and I catch up with the match
>We are dominating and I basically just walk to core as we are about to win

I think I'm so bad that the AI is better than me.
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i suppose you guys full superb owl build when playing as Tyrande
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>kt walks up to core woth 10% hp
>throws phoenix
>doesnt even try to dodge muradin stun
>dies instantly

this mother fucker
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>>123605389

Were you ETC or LiLi?
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>>123605453
Nope

Kerrigan
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>>123605510

Kerrigan AI got improved to be able to land combos now, even if you can't :^)
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if zeratul and nova essentially fill the same role - hunt down squishies and take them out of a fight - is there one that is strictly better than the other? if not what's the difference?
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>>123605591
fug
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>>123605851
>is there one that is strictly better than the other? if not what's the difference?
Zeratul has better sustained dmg even though he also relies on CDs and doesnt instantly die the moment they see you.
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Any TLV players?

What is their current state in this patch?
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>>123605851

Nova is better for burst damage, Zeratul has better sustained and escape.
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>>123605851
Zeratul has an Ult that makes you win.

Nova goes pew pew
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>>123606456
Tlv sucks play sc2 if you want to have fun
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>fighting a murky who just throws his body at towers
>somehow is doing well considering this
>kills my Arthas multiple times
>swap lane with him
>I dominate him and pop his puffers


Why is it that one of Murky's viable strats just tossing himself at structures and objectives constantly?
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>>123607109

because he has a death timer of 5sec, can respawn almost where he likes and does a lot of siege damage
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huh
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>>123606456
Literal garbage. The actual worst character in the game right now and the only reason they have a high winrate is because only a very small number of people play him and those who do usually understands how they are supposed to be played.

They are so bad I have stopped playing them and am waiting for a rework.
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>>123607427

>worst character in the game
That's not Azmodan
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>>123607607
Soaking means significantly less now and when the vikings die, their death timers are now around ~12 seconds in the early game, making them REALLY terrible.
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>>123607242
nothing going on for dota so its pretty normal
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Dear /hotsg/

What the fuck did I tell you about leoric the moment the patch went live?
>Hurrr durrr, he's fine
>Stop complaining

RIP Spooky Skeleton
Hello Moderately Discomforting Skeleton.


>>123605851
Zera got fucked hard with the VP and wormhole nerf.
And then again with the implementation of gathering power.
It doesn't stack very well with any of his builds and nova just ends up doing even more burst than him.

Spoilerino: Nova had more burst than zera even when he had +1 second on wormhole (post double bomb nerf).

Only reason to pick him is for his ulti or for fun.
If you want anything else from him pick a different hero.
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>>123608457
Leoric is literally worthless now.
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>>123602781
Honestly if you're playing strictly F2P this game is fairly generous. By the time you max out at 40 (Like what 3 weeks?), you'll have enough gold to buy at least the 10 of the best heroes in the game.
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jesus christ that fucking game

6%, holy shit
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>>123608457
>Only reason to pick him is for his ulti or for fun
You pick him because he has an escape as well as the ability to wave clear unlike nova
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Where can I see some good builds for heroes? The only site I can find is heroesfire.
While I'm at it, what is the most common build for Tyrande and LiLi?
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>>123614498
Go to hotslogs click on a hero and filter it to master then just take the highest picked talents
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what are you graphics options set to?

i have 2x 7870s in crossfire but HotS performance has always been choppy to the point where my fps drops down to like 20 in teamfights
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>>123614704
Oh, thanks anon.
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>>123614871
this is a screenshot of what my options end up looking like in game

i picked Tyrael because he has the shiniest shit angel glowy thing going on

and i also keep gen/reddit chat open because why the fuck not, i also have /vg/ chat open in game too, but no one ever talks there except for like 4 guys who jst post memes
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>>123614871
I'm running one GTX 980
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>>123615083
well fuck me, i wish i could afford to upgrade my shit, but gotta wait until i manage to find a job
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>>123615061
>keeping general chat open in game
>having reddit chat open
>falling for the crossfire meme
literally fuck off
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What type of quick casting is better? Quickcasting On or Quickcasting On on release?
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>>123616305
>quickcasting
Almost as bad as a-moving and camera lock desu
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Is Tyrael any good? Ever since I saw him in this game, I've been meaning to get him.
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>>123616505
I like him, but he's not the easiest to play.
Try him out and see if you like him. Wait until he comes up as a free hero and run some vs. comp games as him to see how you like him in a full match.
If you still like him after that, go ahead and get him.
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>>123616468
>not using quickcast
I bet you like being a baddie who doesn't know the range of his abilities and missing skill shots because of the extra delay on your abilities. It's time to take the training wheels off, you're almost 32.
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>>123616664
>using a crutch
baka desu senpai
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johanna is purest girl
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>>123616664
>"I can't hit a spell and click my mouse within a fraction of a second of each other"
>"aiming never matters"
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>>123616753
>knowing the range and AOE of an ability by heart and not needing to have Blizzard's Baby's First Moba Guides
Your teammates must be so proud of you when you miss your Divine Shield because you had to push the button and then click on them instead of just one action.
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For some reason, I have a bug where the back of Tyrande's clothing is permanently flipped to the side.

I think I'm okay with this, though.
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>>123617352
Lucky
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>>123617352
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Is lunara next week? Tired of waiting
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>>123617352
Full moon out huh?
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>>123618112
>priestess of Elune
>moons everyone
B R A V O T Y R A N D E
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>>123604343
At least there's someone else to post this when I'm not here now.
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>>123618806
I spent 5 minutes today collecting images of Ben Brode laughing because they make great reaction images
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Would it fix Artanis to make Blade Dash do the initial dash with the first Q press, and only do the returning dash with a second Q press?
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tfw no 3d johanna gf irl
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>>123619906

I must admit, I'd love to be able to just do 1 dash rather than having to return.
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>>123619906
just make Zealot Charge baseline and make the 16 talent a slow or something
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>Leoric Traps 3 people in entomb
>Diablo puts all of them on full blast with lighting breath
>The come out lightly singed

Good god that ult.
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>>123620290
That would be the single best escape in the game. Holy shit that would be broken.
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>they get Uther
>we get a player level 9 Tyrande
ONLY
CONSTANT
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>>123623772
Tyrande couldn't carry you guys hard enough
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>>123623921
>talent gated Tyrande with <50 games played
>carrying anything
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Can you not buy skins for other people?
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>>123624614
You can only make big buys for you
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So do we all agree that the raven lord is superior to the gravekeeper?
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>>123623772
tyrande is literally better than uther right now bronzie
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>>123625641
Talent? Ha, that seems generous.
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>>123625939
>someone playing their 4th game as Tyrande is better than Uther
haha I love memes
we still won but you guys are fucking retarded
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>>123626127
you won, there you have it

also how do you know their uther wasn't also new to the hero?
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>tyrande: guys gank them at boss
>hesitate a little because mercs are about to get on our core, decide to start running there anyway start running there
>5 seconds later tyrande runs in and dies at boss
>tyrande: wtf guys why weren't you there
>tell them we all can't teleport across the map to help them
>tyrande: wtf I told you before I went in, muted!
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Bored of DOTA.

Would you recommend Smite or HOTS as an alternative? Be honest.
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When is this guy useful? How do I git gud? HOW DO YOU FIX THIS SHIT?
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>>123626459
smite is action lol
so hots
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So do people in this general think that everyone else except themselves suck at this game? I saw someone recently call an abathur player bad for taking a standard abathur.
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>>123626649
To be fair, the majority of ASSFAGGOTS players think that they are the only smart person on their team and everyone else is a pack of breast milk drinking noobs. This general isn't an exception.
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>>123626464
You can not be a pussy with him, learn to live on the edge, embrace only having half health.

http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/artanis#hcpJ
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Any Tassadar tips?

I kinda want his mecha-skin since I like the replaced voice over, but it'll be pointless if I can't git good at the hero.
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>>123626464
1. pick seasoned marksman
2. get to 16
3. get zealot charge
4. rape face
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>>123627169
tass plays itself what do you want
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>>123626464
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/artanis#doSC

T1: Whichever is better for the map, Marksman or Amateur Opponent
10: Blind against AA heavy, otherwise Purifier for 1337 zoning and damage
20: Purifier Beam upgrade is goat, take if you're able to focus the targets down for more Beams. FoW if you need to be extra tanky, Blades if you're an off-tank and need the extra damage/slow

Q: Don't spam this. Early game use it for poking behind walls and waveclearing if you know you won't get stunned. At 7 you can start using it in teamfights for more shields. You reduce cooldown on both passes.
W: Mash this like you're imagining having dirty sex with Kerrigan and making a new hybrid
E: learn when and how to use it to trip people up or pull them into CC. Don't teleport yourself into the enemy team. If you have Beam and you're close you can use it to keep them in the beam longer.
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>tfw you go full Dabu.
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>>123628050
>tfw Storm, Earth and Fire heed your call
>tfw you make the enemy team feel the power of the Horde
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>top damage charts every game
>rarely die more than 3 times a game
>be plat in league of shitters
>unranked in hots
>hotslogs says I'm bronze
fucking how
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>get to qm loading screen
>see level 7 raynor on my team
fucking why blizzard
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>>123626649
To be fair they were probably both bad
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>>123628289
because dunning kruger effect?
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>>123628157
>Do you mean throwing lightning bolts that I passively regen in lane?

>Do you mean running into me and then doing that annoying baby hop "3 hit string" when you do with windfury that dosnt look threatening but then 60% of my hp is gone with envenom on top?

While Im on this topic can we give examples of some of the more "Flaccid" animations?
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>>123628289
theres more to the game than laning senpai
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>Bored with the game
>Only thing keeping me playing is getting someone's master skin because I'm close anyway
>Decide on Illidan
>I'll just play a QM game real quick
>Illidan/Falstad/Rehgar/Furion/Valla versus Stiches/Muradin/Jaina/Kael/Medic

Goodbye /hotsg/ you were one of the better generals but I'm sure it's just because it's too slow to warrant any shitposting.
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>>123628556
I played Thrall for a while and the only ability I really liked was actually his slowing earthquake.

I honestly think it's the best ability in the game, but nobody capitalizes on it, nor do they even pick it.
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>tfw Artanis and Thrall are the exact same hero

Are we already in the LoL period for this game where we can't even get unique heroes?
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>>123629139
no they're not
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>>123629139
laziest bait of my life
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How many times do you think Abathur tried to slip his slimy dick there?
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>>123629139
As much as I love Abathur. What other aspects of the game can you base a character around? How many gimmicks?

We have a non-combat character, an artillery character, a multiplayer boss character, a hyper healer. Can you give some more?
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How overplayed is Thrall? I'm thinking of spending some gold on him, but I don't want to pick another hero literally everyone else picks.
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>>123630058
should have played him before scaling changes
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>enemy team has 3 auto-selects
>still a better team comp than 90% of my QMs
simply ebin
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>>123626815
Not me, I've had 2 major realizations of how fucking bad I am at this game.

I'm trying to fix it, my first step is:
>Those 2 characters that I like the most, I don't know how to play them, should stop picking them
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>>123630172
I would, except I've only been playing this game for less than a week
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>>123628787
Because it's garbage. The only reason to take it is the lvl 20 upgrade.
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>>123630621
Well Green Jesus is certainly more popular now, since he has a better early game. It's up to you.
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>>123630714
That's a shame, I'm still probably going to end up getting him though. Any other sleeper characters you would recommend? Currently trying to git gud with stitches.
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>>123629741
>Implying he has a dick

Genitals redundant, Copulation inefficient. Manual creation results in better sequences.
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>>123630621
He's more popular now and now that he was used in some competitive games he's probably going to even more popular, but he's really fun if that helps.
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>>123630920
Deep down he's just an horny teenager
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>>123630862
Stitches, although he got buffed pretty recently too. Kerrigan is good if you don't have a lot of melee already.
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>>123630968
>>123631126
Neat, thanks for the help.
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>>123630581
I've had the same thing with Sgt Hammer and Abathur.

I just started learning the game again from the ground up since watching my MMR tank from 3.4k all the way to 2.9k was a wake up call. Been using Sylv, Rehgar, Malf, Arthas, Sitches Muradin and Anub a lot recently. It seems Sylv is the only non caster damage dealer I know how to use.

Wish you the best of luck on your getting good journey.
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Murky or Rexxar

i just tried both of them out and i think they're both pretty awesome

Murky is great at being a dick and wave clearing stupidly easily

Rexxar seems like a ton of fun, and his controls are actually really fucking intuitive once you get the hang of it
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>>123631612
If you enjoy playing those characters and realize now that you're bad, you can only get better. Since playing heroes you enjoy means you'll probably have fun anyway, meaning learning them better won't be as boring an experience.

Basically you git gud at things you enjoy.
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>>123631641
I think Murky is a better character, Octo grab is just an awesome tool and you can just delete someone with it.
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>>123631641
if you ever plan on picking any of those two on ranked, you should get Rexxar because Murky is the easiest hero to counter on draft pick
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>>123631779
Not him but the guy he was replying to
My problem is that I need to learn a middle point, I either go too aggressive and end up dying 10 times or more, or I get too scared that I'm basically not helping the tam
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>>123631779
I enjoy all of them, I often find ways to make my own fun, but learning proper decision making with Sylv(who I find the most fun) is annoying because you are either in the right or the absolute wrong and you should kill yourself. Positioning is on point, landing silence ults on cores is on point but most of the time, people complain when im not taking camps because im getting rid of a huge wave with siege minions but they complain when im taking a camp when there is nothing else on the map because I could be in lane pushing or soaking XP

But yeah, I enjoy playing them and they allowed me to get back into the game especially now that they changed up Sylv's talent tree so that it's not solely about 1 talent at that level that you have to get all the time, especially at level 7. Her and Sitch are the thing that got me back into HotS.
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>>123602313
>watching people dance around roshan pit for 40 minutes is fun
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>>123631612

I do love Sgt Hammer. I'm constantly told she's not a good hero but hey, she's still a lot of fun.
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>>123633068
I'm not that good on her. I can only really do well if they don't pay attention to me. If im being focused, im as good as dead
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>>123633151

That's Hammer in a nutshell.

Strong situational awareness is important with her. She's not a hero who can handle surprises well.

Something to get the hang of: Going siege mode isn't always the right plan. Hammer does plenty decent damage rolling about and can keep mobile to avoid heavy AOE.

Go seige if you think you can avoid being blown away for a bit but don't try it if you think you'll need to brawl any time soon.

Also: Hammer is surprisingly good at finishing off running foes due to having a really long speed boost compared to most people's escape moves. Zoom up behind them and blast them in the ass (Or face if you can get ahead of them) with your shotgun round.

Finally: For the love of all that's holy, don't forget your mines. You can have 2 loads of them out at once. Having those in the bushes with you will give melee assassins a nasty surprise when they go after you. They also give a little LOS so you can use them to scout out bushes without going in personally. A little head start never hurt hammer when it's time to pissbolt.
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>tfw favorite hero is abathur and all of his skins are utter trash
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>>123634393
>tfw your two favorite heroes have great skins.
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>>123634393
>not liking skellethur
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>>123634393
>tfw favorite hero is Sylvanas and Anub and both their choices of skins are perfectly fine

Got Sylv's skin for free tho, I don't see myself directly spending money on this game. Especially if it's not on sale.
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is your wife for hire?
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>>123633151
playing hammer requires some knowledge of player psychology. that little ring on the ground will affect the enemy team without you ever firing a shot. Use it to zone the enemy team out, if you ever lose a lane as hammer you're doing it fucking wrong.

If you get caught in siege mode hit em with the shotgun then boost off, and lay some mines behind you (remember you dont have to stop to use the mines).Don't ever siege in a location where you won't have some kind of escape route. Remember that boost can be activated while in siege, which will get you moving faster than de-sieging and then boosting.

If you get a map that requires holding an objective (sky temple, cursed hollow, dragon shire) congrats, you basically win the game.

Always pick napalm. You can clear huge waves and take merc camps with it.

She's one of my favorites, I have an 85% winrate with her.

>>123634921
it's ugly as shit tho
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So why did blizzard make two Diablo themed maps? Didn't they say they weren't going to make maps based on their IPs? Does this mean we'll get a WoW/SC map at some point?
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>>123635054
>Getting the shitty skin when Sugar Plum Fairy is coming out.
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greymane when
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>>123635201
It was a Diablo themed event. When the other two get themed events they probably will get maps.
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>>123635205
Did you not read that I didn't pay for it? One of my friends owed me for making him lunch, so he bought me a Bnet Prepaid card for $20. I don't really care much about that skin from that angle though. I hope it looks better in-game.
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>>123635201
dear god yes, i would love to see a Starcraft themed map

full blown with minerals and gas you need to harvest and control that spawns ever increasing waves of minions

every 3 minutes, gold minerals spawn that give you a huge boost and even more powerful minions that shove lanes really hard
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>>123631925
How do you easily counter murky? I know stuns are good but is there a harder counter?
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>>123635532
cleanse, fast aa
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>>123635532
i mean, there's like a full burst combo from Nova...

a VP stacked frog when a Zera and Nazeebo combo?

...iono, i've rarely seen a Murky taken down from 100-0 unless it's a Nova, they usually survive with like 5% health and safety bubble back to full anyway
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I kinda see why sef is better than keg now. Body block, double hp.Assassins trying to escape are blocked lmao.

Also why do 99% of Cho'galls are fucking shit? Out of like 30 games with them I won 3.

CHEN IS FUCKING FUN
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>>123635316
>>123635201

I do wish they hadn't gone with the Heavens for both.

One in the Heavens, one in Westmarch would have been much more fun.

I really want Starcraft Maps. Give us one with Nuke Silo objectives or something.
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>>123635797
Luckily, I've only played 1 game with Cho'Gall, the rest were in AI games. We won the game but the Cho'Gall was dead weight and constantly complained, so we just used him as cannon fodder.

I've heard a lot of stories of people playing QM and having a total hot ass Cho'gall on their team. I'm just thankful it doesn't happen to me. Whoops, there I go jinxing myself again!
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>mfw this fucking queue time
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>>123636240
You don't wanna see what happens when it gets to 600.
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>>123636517

Sup Thisisgia, any pro tip sfor chen? Been enjoying quite a lot. Got the basics down too.Also do you pick REF most of the time?
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>>123636037

The one time I've seen Cho'Gal be terrifying was on the Dragon Knight map.

I wasn't aware that Gal could keep casting while Cho is piloting the Dragon Knight. So you end up with a Dragon Knight + Cho's spells...then a full health Cho'Gal to fight when it dies.
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>>123636517
>52 Shekels
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>>123635060
>new specimen located
>species: terran, function: farmhand
>weak musculature and mental capacity, poor combat potential
>however, numerous offspring discovered, in addition: monozygotic twins
>further inspection of 23rd chromosome reveals robust reproductive systems, fertile ovum, strong birthing canal
>can extract essence, enhance zerg birthing capability
>recommendation: assimilate gene sequences, improve broodmother strain, allow for simultaneous production of different combat strains
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>>123636819
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>>123636594
Yeah, I pick SEF most of the time, but barrel can be better against high stun comps with high-value immobile squishies like Kael. Look to barrel the squishies into your team if you take it.

In general, learn to use BB well. WE costs exactly 50 brew, so you can always press it if you need the speed boost. You can use this if you see a gank coming with not enough time to mount, etc. Don't drink if you don't need the resources or don't need to tank damage. Keep the speed boost from BB for as long as possible while chasing.
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>>123597996
senjinn here

when i play anub'arak, i play beetle build, pretty sure you can check my hotslog for that information
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I want Rexxar, KT and Arthas, which one do I buy first ?
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>>123637195
KT>Rexxar>Arthas
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>>123637337
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>>123637102

Oooh i never tough of using the speed boost that way, thanks.

But chasing at 50 brew, won't you then have to drink (after using skills on them) and letting the person run away?
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>>123636517
welp
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LMAO plebs cant even Cho like me.
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>>123637719
that was probably one of the most retarded games i've ever had the unpleasant experience of suffering through my entire fucking life

fuck this, i'm never playing quickmatch ever again, at least with Hero League, people aren't literal vegetables
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Guess who just bought Abathur
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>>123637979
>at least with Hero League, people aren't literal vegetables
Hate to burst your bubbles.
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>>123637664
In the early levels, if the person is just running straight away from you without stopping, you can't really chase them forever. In that case, you generally want to kick>WE to initiate, and then just run alongside them autoing with BB and kicking when it's off cooldown to keep up, or keg smashing to slow them (without using fire breath) if you have teammates chasing. If they stop (or get stopped) for any reason, then you can take time to drink and fill up on brew before they start running again.

Once you have pressure point, though, you can chase forever. Here's how it should go:
1: Kick>WE
2:chase and auto with BB
3: Kick>drink while they're rooted>WE
4: go to step 2
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>been a week since the new map launched
>still haven't had a game on it
I love this meme
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>>123638237
The map rotation is BfoE and the new map tho.
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>>123638154

Thanks for the tips, greatly helps.
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>>123638154
>2 levels higher.
>Fighting a hammer.

Why did you make this webm?
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>>123638237
You don't want it. It's fucking garbage.
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>>123638372
Because it was a good example of the standard Chen chase sequence with pressure point.
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im a new player who was turned off by the high prices in HotS. What heroes should I pick up to have a good pool to play with? i assume i should have 2-3 of each role in case later on the other team picks one i own
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>>123638639
Warrior: Muradin, ETC
Assassin: Jaina, Valla
Specialist: Zagara, Nazeebo. You can get away with having no specialists, though.
Support: Li Li, Kharazim (Malfurion if price is an issue)
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>>123638758

thanks, ill pick those up
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>>123638581

Yeah that's what I do generally on low level, but I tend to drink a lot more. That Azmodan is pretty bad lmao, he should have used his laser at least.

Also I'm getting Warmaster Chen skin.
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>>123638980
Azmo was trying to get away and wasn't 13 yet. Laser just would have just rooted him and made him die faster.
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Why do people focus on Muradin when there is a Li Li healing him and a Jaina beating on them from afar ?

It's like people have tunnel vision issues.
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>>123639262
1 - maybe that muradin is the only thing they can safely attack and lili is too far away

2 - maybe they're just really shit players

3 - maybe they don't have a person to help peel so the only thing they can do is attack the muradin

4 - maybe they're confident in their ability to burst down muradin because they were able to bait out avatar and it's just about to end
usually mix of 2 and 2
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>>123639262
>try to get past Muradin
>get thunder clapped
>get storm bolted
>get Jaina'd anyway because now you're even closer to her and also stunned/slowed
"just don't focus the tank" isn't good advice if the tank is going to kill you if you stop focusing him
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>>123639262
Don't focus the tank is something only bronze scrubs say. If you dive past the frontline for a carry you're gonna get buttraped.

Focus the guy out of position, that's all.
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>>123639462
>>123639524
You guys...
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How much of a grind is it to get solo queue Rank 1 in HotS?
Mate won't shut the fuck up about it. I'm 5724 in dotos and he's 3296 MMR claiming the climb in HotS was harder.
>What's the requirements for playing Ranked?
>Are there placement matches that you can abuse?
>Each rank equates to "2% of the players" - is Rank 1 #9999 comparable to Rank 1 #5?
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>>123639668
>le you're wrong but I can't say why so I'll just assume a defensive stance implying you're beneath me despite not being able to articulate my point face
anon pls
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speak pup
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>>123640161
>blondes may HAVE more fun, but redheads ARE more fun
what did she mean by this?
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>>123640351
Blondes are whores
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>>123640410
don't talk about Johanna like that please
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>>123640512
He meant Jaina.
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>>123627725
>T1: Whichever is better for the map, Marksman or Amateur Opponent

Stopped reading right there
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>>123639789
>What's the requirements for playing Ranked?
Level 30 and at least 10 heroes

>Are there placement matches that you can abuse?
win all 20 placements and you're pretty much in single digits rank

>Each rank equates to "2% of the players" - is Rank 1 #9999 comparable to Rank 1 #5?
no
bottom of rank 1 is literal shit, they only got there because they got lucky and got carried

top of rank 1 is where you actually see not-retarded plays

the whole 2% of players = 1 rank thing is bullshit and absofuckinglutely retarded system. it's doesn't even measure skill or progress, it's just a fucking number
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>Plat HL MMR
>Diamond QM MMR

Still feels like i get the shittiest players in the whole of Europe though
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>>123640786
that's because until you get to Masters MMR, everyone is actually shit
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>>123640604
Marksman is useless on 2 lane maps since you will never get enough stacks to make it worthwhile, and BHB is PVE heavy so the extra NPC damage is superior.
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I only have one specialist, and that's Sylvanas. I really like her, but I feel like I need another.

So should I get either Abathur or Zagara? They seem like the best choices. I'm just worried that picking Aba will fuck me up because there will be one less player on the field.

I will never play Hero League or strive to be competitive, otherwise I would just buy Jaina or KT
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>>123641316
Murky goddammit
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>>123639789
Getting lvl30 and the 10 heroes required could be grindy, but you can get around that abusing the free stimpack you get at lvl10 and buying all the cheapest heroes. You also get bonus xp if you play with a friend and that's going to make it even faster.
Once you can actually play ranked all it takes is 25-35 games with a decent winrate, placement matches included.
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>>123641316
>I will never play Hero League or strive to be competitive
Murky or Hammer
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>>123641316
Zagara is great but very team reliant, Murky is alright if you're not an autistic idiot, Abathur only worth it if you play with friends
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>>123640837
Mustering the motivation to grind out of this shitfest is painful though.
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>>123641946
you and me both :/

i've started playing more warriors because at the very least, i know i can play a strong front line or heavy engage

ETC, Johanna, Muradin, can't really go wrong with those three
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ASCENDANT COUNCIL WHEN?
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>>123641579
>>123641661
>>123641760

I've never played Murky, but following from the sidelines it seems like I'm supposed to push hard with him, and not be afraid of dying?

I've also noticed that Murky does a lot of damage, especially with the fish attack or whatever it is. I've got 10k gold and nothing special to spend it on except maybe Zeratul, so I guess I'll try him out.
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>>123643053
Dying as murky isn't as bad as dying with another character, since you give less xp. However, you don't want to die for nothing, because it will make you lose your stacks of Living the Dream (best talent in the game to be honest)
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>>123643126
Alrighty

What should I build on Murky? Since I've never played him, the talents make no sense to me
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>>123643053
you just pick murky for enemy nova or kael
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>>123643217
Block, living the dream, and you go full puffer after that.

Octo grab as ult, because it's so good.
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>>123640351
fugg :-DDD
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This game is going to die without hot characters.

Alexstrasza when?
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>>123643367
Pretty sure both WC and SC have their 2 most popular "hot" characters represented.
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>>123640839
So what t1 talent do you take when the maps are not pve centric Or when you're solo tank?
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>>123643564
Still need more.
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sonya nerf when?
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>>123643367
Does that mean the game is shit?
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>>123643735
Nah
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>>123643646
>artanis
>solo tank
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>>123643646
Well you're never going to be a solo tank because artanis is not a tank
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>>123643367
Alexstrasza when?
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>>123643367
You sound underage.
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>>123644023
xD
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is it just me or are assassins only allowed by blizzard to do actual game winning damage?
artanis is meant to be like a bruiser but he does zero damage
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>>123644310
I do more damage with Chen than some assassins.
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> 50% off sale

do i do, do i just buy all 10k heroes and end this nightmare
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>>123644693
>buy them all
>realise you only play 10 often
>realise all the amount of skittles and/or lettuce you can have bought.
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>>123601254
I have buyer's remorse from Desert Queen... No voice-overs and no changed abilities kills it.
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Holy shit I'm having so much fun playing Tyrande

>tfw she's fun and very viable in the meta
>tfw shadowstalk can be used offensively and defensively
>tfw owl build is fun as fuck and everything is off CDs always
>rewind for locking down someone or 360 no scope owls
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>>123645069
The hydralisks are different.
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>>123645069
Hydras and Roaches look different.
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Takada on foerests stream facing his brother go cheer him on faggots
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>>123645992
no dont' watch me through his brother..
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>>123646039
start streaming
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>>123645992

Who is Takada? Why should I care?
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>>123644023
>not fapping to hots
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>>123639789
Rank 1 is meaningless. Anyone who can move their hero and use keyboard shortcuts can reach it. Your mate won't shut up about it because he's probably shit and wants to feel superior for once.
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>>123646372
The highest MMR player in /vg/, known for playing vikings.
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>>123643053
During first one or two objective you're basically useless so just push two lanes. Slime the wave pufferfish slime again, get the xp and go to other lane. Back and forth getting the xp.

Block
Living the dream
Compressed air
Octograbing
Increased puffer damage on slimed targets
Slimy pufferfish
Rewind

Always check opponents talent picks at level 7 to see if they picked cleanse. If someone has cleanse you'll need to octograb them over anyone else
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As much as I love playing the guy, fuck do I hope Thrall gets nerfed. Feels retardedly cheap and piss easy.
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>>123643053
>following from the sidelines it seems like I'm supposed to push hard with him
No. That's a mistake I see plebs make all the time.
Play murky like you play any other character.

Yeah, you lane. But you need to help out in teamfights like any other pleb.
Else you almost guarantee a loss unless the enemy team is dumb enough to waste someone defending you or their team is so shit they lose 5v4.

Take fucking octograb and use it well and often.
Late game you want to aim for at least 1 person permanently on respawn.
This counter-acts the fact that you are a negligible sack of shit.

I have seen ONE.
ONE murky, win me the game with march.
He had like 500 games on the guy.
You are not him yet. Do not pick it.
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>people think there's skill requires for this game
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>>123648189
Loving this bait desu senpai
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>>123648260
Not bait desu, the skill cap on this game is so low it's not even funny.
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>>123648292
How many games did it take you to get masters, then?
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>>123646427
are you rank 1?

By your definition, everyone that can type (reach shortcuts) or post on this thread should easily be rank 1 yet that's not the case.
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>>123648341
>being autistic enough to grind that out
no thanks
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>>123648448
Are you at least rank 1 then, senpai?
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>>123648341
>Falling for that bait this much
stop
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>>123648487
I am, took me about 90-100 games I believe.
From what I'm hearing that's not much of an achievement, though.
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>>123648554
>From what I'm hearing that's not much of an achievement, though.
You'd be surprised how much trouble some people have with it.

Sounds like you don't enjoy the game very much anymore, though, if you've resorted to shitposting. Why stick around?
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>>123648627
>>You'd be surprised how much trouble some people have with it.
Isnt that usual in assfaggots games? You get placed in mid range ranks and youre stuck there forever
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>>123648695
>youre stuck there forever
Not if you're good. When I started this game months ago I was plat on slogs. Now I'm double masters and climbing. You just need to have the capacity to learn from your mistakes and a mindset focused on improving. Some people just aren't cut out for that sort of stuff, though, so they wallow in mid leagues winging about their team instead of trying to figure out what they could have done better.
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>>123592498

I just realized I actually hate Mobas and the reason I play this is because of the characters, and nice graphics, and hero fights. But it's not like I have any fun wining objectives. For me destroying the core means that the fun is over, rather than we won.

So I hope the arcade mode finally makes me stop playing mobas forever, when do you think it's coming? months?
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When is Zagara getting reworked?
Her talents are forever imbalanced
Mutalisk is a retarded spell
She is boring as fuck
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>>123649976

Arcade Mode?
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>>123650112
Ah it's called Arena, sorry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdUTmQvDNwg
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>>123650207

Ah so 'Teamfights: The mode'

Interesting, though I'll admit I play MOBAs much more for objectives than for teamfights.

I do wonder how they'll make that work with all those heroes who really don't like a fair teamfight. I'm not seeing Azmodan doing well there for instance.
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>>123646372
Don't care about takada, he sucks, care about senjinn, the memes about this guy is stuff of legends.
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>>123650517
Senjinn pls, you already got presents, isnt that enough
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>>123650457
welp sorry posted the edgy version, this is what it's about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DjkOAmTrvo
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>>123650701

Ah, interesting. So while it's MORE teamfight focused, it's not exclusively teamfight.

Interesting. Could be very cool.
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>>123647784
Thrall still isn't seen in competitive

He wont be nerfed
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>>123644310
>is it just me or are assassins only allowed by blizzard to do actual game winning damage?

>Zagara
>Nazeebo
>Sonya
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>>123651193

Heck, she's squishy and tricky but Hammer is a specialist and she puts some assassins to shame in ability to devastate a teamfight.
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>>123651193
Sonya damage is overrated
Nazeebo got gutted
Zagara is OP piece of shit that never gets touched for some reason
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When I AFK against AI's (for master skin dont judge) by closing the game and then coming back it says waiting for game results when the game isnt finished, what do /vg/?
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>>123650568
that dick tho.
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>>123651274
Specialist is just a fancy name for assassins with bit pushing ability
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I need a real bad hero on my team. Some character that players are usually terrible with. And make the player an asshole too.

Say no more senpai.
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>>123651734
you have to do it in training mode not vs
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>>123648507
>falling to THAT bait this much
>heh heh
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>>123651807
>Demon Illidans
>edgy 12yo memesters who think they can burst with Demon and get killed 40 times in one match
>Hunt Illidans
>literally only in a fight when Hunt is off c/d because "muh stacks"

pick your poison I'm THE HUNT all day erryday btw
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>>123651782
>gazlowe
>assassin
>vikings
>assassin
>azmodan
>assassin

go to bed /hotsg/
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>>123652782
>azmodan instagibbing people at global range
>not assassin behavior
pls
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>>123652926
Has that Taste for Blood bug been fixed for him yet?
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>>123652926
>not playing kindergarten teacher azmo with 15+ lil meme demons around him at all times

nah but for real, to play azmo well you need 110% map awareness and a mission control mindset first, then you can concentrate on your sick gibs. not that there's anything wrong with dps azmo
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>queue for qm
>abathur
>abathur
>abathur and tlv
>level 26 Nova and abathur
>abathur and gazlow
>maps that specifically require 5 man team presence
>enemy team has perfectly fine comp

Why is this shit champ still allowed to exist? Why can't I just be on the other team?
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>I play Kael'thas
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>>123653598
What is the problem with Kael'thas?
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>>123653217
what if same team has tlv, abathur and chogall in it
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senjinn here

this is my breakfast today at rehab

its an egg
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>>123654686
needs more dick
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>>123654686
why are you eating breakfast in the fucking dark holy shit
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>>123654686
do you feel like dying yet
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>>123651460
>Sonya damage is overrated
only if you're terrible at her
>Nazeebo got gutted
muh literal fractions of a point of damage :(
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>5 stack friends
>Be Diamond
>The rest of my friends are gold-Platinum and about 500mmr difference with the Plat
>The rest cannot understand my calls
>Poor ability coordination (lamb > gust, overpower > root/tyrande stun, Condemn > Blizzard, etc)
>I cannot even try to experiment and imitate pro Hots (4-1 lane, etc) because my stack gets salty on every loss
>even at 400 games in
>mfw I'm stuck with them for the rest of my hots games
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bets?
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>>123656520
blue
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>>123656520
Tough call...
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>>123656520
Please tell me it's a custom match
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>>123656447
only constant
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>>123656602
>>123656795
>>123656886
Wasn't even a 600s queue.
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what is the go to tyrande build if i'm the only support in the team?
i usually go
hunter's mark / celestial attunement (not sure about this one)
pierce
lunar blaze
shadowstalk
overflowing light
ranger
hunter's swiftness/rewind
>>
over 600s queue

place your bets
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>>123658291
>tyrande
pick a real hero first
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>>123658291
everything into owl
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>>123658414
you know that you can cancel queue every 60 sec to find partyfaster
>>
I'm level 39, and it seems that the closer I get to max level, and the more matches I win, the shittier people become. Not only worse players, but they constantly shit up the chat with "omg noobs u suck l2p" even while they are the ones messing up.

Is this what it is at max level? People that have finally discovered the chat function and keep raging in the chat about everything?
Oh, and Russians. Fucking Russians.

I might as well drop the game now if this is what I'm going to be experiencing in the future.
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>>123658884
You have low mmr.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eC1LG0CORU

her jokes are 10/10
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>>123658291
That's basically what I go for.
I find celestial atonement to be better and more reliable overall.
If you don't need damage at all I switch out pierce/ranger for shield and trueshot aura/shooting star depending on team comp.

If I don't forget to heal and use shadowstalk on cooldown I usually can outheal even uther.
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>>123658946
buff icons back when?
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>>123658935
Any way to find out what MMR I have without uploading everything to Hotslogs?

And I honestly don't know what to do about it anyway. It's not like I can carry a whole team in this game. And this is in QM, so I don't even know if it has any MMR.

I won't play HL, because that takes all the fun out of the game.
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>>123658946
>Nova is such an edgy piece of shit because she's jelly that best girl is better than her at everything
pottery
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>>123659103

Users were overwhelmed by the amount of information on screen so it had to be removed for good.
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>>123658884
I always like those games where people use their double-digit ranks as proof they're somehow better than other double digit ranks.

>Welcome to 'Heroes of the Storm': The game where everything is bronze and the ranks don't matter.
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>>123659121
Why does HL take all the fun out of the game? If you have that kind of mindset its no wonder your MMR is low.
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>>123659187
post your hotlogs mmr kid
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>>123659103
players just wouldn't understand more than 9 icons, and the circles were too big
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>>123658414
dunno why it didnt post image
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>>123659265
>hotslogs
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>>123659187
Not HL rank 39. Actual LEVEL 39. As in you start at level 0 when you get the game and end up at 40, which is max.

>>123659240
Drafting is boring. Measuring your e-peen by playing ranked is boring. People take themselves far too seriously in ranked play in any game (that's not to say that you should constantly fuck around, but I like games not being completely serious 100% of the time, if you understand what I'm trying to say).
You are never allowed to pick anything outside of the current "meta".

Basically, ranked play is a no-fun shitfest that I don't want to partake in. This goes for every game I play. I never touch ranked because people seem to think getting higher rank is more important than everything else.
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>>123659153
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfThCkXfLCY
they're great too
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>>123659454
Most the cast of the game is viable in HL play. If you just play to as you say "have fun" then i'm thinking you pick stuff like Gazlowe and are generally a burden to the team. You don't deserve to be paired with better players.
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>>123659621
>wait, aren't I supposed to be human now? Make up your mind Blizzard! Human, Zerg, human, Zerg! Pick one!
>are we really supposed to believe I evolved high heels!
the best quotes are the ones that take the piss out of Blizzard's retarded writing
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>>123659749
Gazlowe needs to be removed from the game ASAP
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>>123658495
this baka desu senpai, you'll be healing and stunning hard and fast with those reduced cooldowns
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>>123659867
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxrc41EzGjw
thrall's are still the best
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>>123659939
>6s aoe stun
>bad
gazlowe is literally top tier
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>>123660048
>1 good skill on a 60 sec cooldown
>no other worthwhile skills
>shitty trait
>mobility of a block of solid concrete

wow so good
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>>123660043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRB-UI1qjRo
>what do you think of the new armour? The last one left me feeling a little.... exposed
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>>123660043
gtfo Metzen
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>>123659621
>Are you staring at my thorax?

All day, every day Kerrigan
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>Be Abathur on Spider Queen
>Clone Teammate
>Able to turn in gems with 0 gems of your own
>>
>Not just using github sounds of the storm

Thanks for viewing! Don't forget to like and subscribe to my youtube channel
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>forced 50
Great system blizz 10/10
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>>123659749
>Don't deserve to be paired with better players

Top kek m8 i r8 it 8/8


I play all the regular heroes that everyone else plays. Tyrande, Arthas, Sylvanas, Muradin, Kharazim, Kerrigan, Nova etc.

But w/e, this conversation is going nowhere
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>>123661294
>losing to murky and tyrone
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>>123661667
they're both good masterbaiter
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>>123661139
Show me senpai

I actually typed senpai, it wasn't filtered
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>>123661950
desu senpai
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>>123661138
do not question fate, embrace it and be thankful
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>guy dives in 1v5
>dies
>"sorry my first time on this hero"

Hmm, so which is the hero you're used to that can dive in 1v5 and win? Maybe I'll just main that one so I can carry retards that dive in 1v5 on heroes that obviously aren't capable of it
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>>123663201
>Hmm, so which is the hero you're used to that can dive in 1v5 and win?
Sonya
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>>123661514
So if you play all those heroes then why are you so afraid of HL? Your mindset keeps you a shitter. The whole "I play for fun!" mindset is incredibly childish and stupid. It's nothing but an excuse for your poor play.
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>>123662672
there's some weird trick to it, otherwise you'll turn in nothing and waste your time, but i can't figure out the difference besides the fact that the cloned person must have gems. on that note, i don't know what will happen if the abathur has gems.
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>>123663201
Johanna
>>
>>123663201

Eh, I can see that happening if you overestimate your escape move and was just trying to poke them.
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>>123663201
Sonya.
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>>123663201
>Illidank
>5 seconds into the match he flips over the fucking enemy wall and dies
>"Lol I always dive a little too hard in the beginning"
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>>123664247
I did that on my very first time playing Illidan (which was only like my 2nd game ever) and then never again

These people must have learning disabilities if they're level 40 and still doing this shit
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>>123664247
>>123664503
>tfw always die to something stupid in the first few minutes whenever I play Sonya or Johanna because I forget I don't have all my talents
>tfw it doesn't matter because as soon as I get talents I wreck everyone
>>
>Tfw the enemy illidan takes the hunt just for you

;_;
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>>123665370
congrats on your free win.
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???
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>>123665370
>>123665613
>tfw Illidan takes hunt while you're playing a squishy as fuck character and you win because Illidan keeps 1 for 1'ing himself into your team but it's just fucking annoying as shit to deal with
>>
>doing boss while kharazim sits on the temple
>see cho'gall on the minimap contesting
>whatever, kharazim will probably just give it up
>kharazim soloes him
>oh. k.
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>>123666223
>gall with nether
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>>123666223
>Twisting Nether
>Upheavel
sick throw
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>>123666386
They can't throw if they were never winning.

the game was over before 10 and ended in like 15 minutes.
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>>123666662
picking the wrong heroic twice definitely didn't help though
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Post 'em, boys.
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>>123666386
upheavel is not bad you nignog
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>>123667286
it's worse than a knockback, stun, and Fire Eater synergy
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>>123667212
the fuck is wrong with your table column widths
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>>123667443
Dunno, that's just how it is.
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>>123667212
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>>123666339
>>123666386
Shadow Bolt Volley is fucking garbage. It's literally an even worse triple tap.
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>>123668028
How to spot a shitter
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>>123667286
>>123668028
t. the reasons Cho'gall always sucks
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>>123668850
>t.
how to crush memes 101
>>
Is it fair to say that assassins and specialist have the most "role bleed over"

I mean Kael can drop minions waves instantly, Raynor can blow up a fort, and Zagara can shit out insane DPS and has a monster CC.

What exactly makes someone a specialist if their are multiple assassins which are good and pushing lanes?
>>
Which Brightwing build is better? The healing mist build or the teleport build?
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>>123670245
the fact that blizzard doesn't want the roster to be 2/3 assassins, 1/3 every other class
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>>123635060
Is abathur a jew?
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>>123671004
yes
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>>123670245
specialist doesn't really just mean pusher, although pushers are usually included in it. Mostly it just means characters that have a unique playstyle.
>>
So kharazim is a better Illidan?
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>>123668850
I have well over 50% with both Cho and Gall. Picking Shadow Bronze Volley is retarded.
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WHERE THE HELL IS KT?
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why is this chat system so stupid?

like, it gives me a list of some random people in the list as if i know any of them, and the last person's name isn't even finished, it just ends with an elips...

like what the fuck, why even bother to show me the names of people i don't even know if you're not even going to use the whole list, just some random people picked out for no reason, they aren't on my friends list, nor are they even friends of friends who play this game

just give us fucking chat windows back, none of this stupid "oh, you have to tab through channels and like 40 people you've whispered to in the past 2 hour session in order to get to the person you want, and if you accidentally tab past it, fuck you hurrr"
>>
>>123671745
he's been in since open beta
>>
Grizzly Hills themed map when
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>>123671745
umm, Kael'Thas already is in the game...

>>123671884
sadly, we don't have the technology for that
>>
>Down 12 to 3 in Towers of Doom
>Somehow manage to kill the enemy team enough to steal towers and win
Daily reminder that quitters are shitters
>>
>kael phoenix is 40 sec cd
???
it does the same as raynor carrier but he have a 90 sec cd on that
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>>123671993
phoenix only hits 1 thing, raynors hits multiple
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>>123671993
>carrier

Raynor's battlecruiser class Hyperion is on a 90 second cool down because:

1 - it covers a larger area while it performs the strafing run

2 - it deals extra damage against buildings via it's Yamato cannon
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>>123671993
>phoenix hits everything in range and does massive bonus damage to buildings
????????

the better question is why is Malestrom just an objectively worse Hyperion but still has a longer cooldown
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>>123671745
His model was show in last year Blizzcon when will he be added? No idea really
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>>123671763
it was part of their survey this week but i didn't get a text box for it
never get why retards can't get a proper chat client into games, like they don't want people to be involved with each other
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>>123672395
>literally leoric with horns
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>>123672394
Maelstrom is just a glorified Burning Rage on Muradin/Johanna

one of, if not, THE, shittiest ults in the game
the ultralisk is pretty shit too

>>123672517
god damn the game is on the exact same engine as Starcraft 2 and they had proper chat windows for Wings of Liberty, and then they fucked it up so now no one even bothers chatting anymore

remember the days of SC:BW? When the first thing you logged in and saw was a massive lobby? you could chat with people, there were stupid trivia bots asking questions about starcraft lore, you could ask people for NR10 matches in lobby, then hop into a game super easily

it felt like a fucking community

now it's all just "everyone playing by themsevles with occassional chatter happening in a box that has the least intuitive 'oh just tab through everything' system" fuckign christ
>>
>>123672737
>muh community ;-;

just go to face book you whiny baby
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>>123672557
Yes anon under your skin there its literally a naked Leoric
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>>123672908
they have better games too :^)
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>>123664247
EVERY
SINGLE
GAME
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>>123672557
eh... anon, they both are skeletons.
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>>123673136
fuck off, everyone knows skeletons aren't real
>>
>>123670757
depending on the map size/objective distance, healing or mix. Most of the time you'll want Hyper shift at level 1, 4 is variable, but 7 you should probably get mistified. Heal blink ult, Damage reduction or slow at 13 based on cc, but it's usually pretty obvious variable At 16, if you have shit for CC, increase polymorph duration. if you have too much CC:damage, vulnerability. If you feel pretty confident in your team or feel good in faking it to inspire them to work together, get shield dust. Actually, shield dust is pretty good overall, just mind your comp and their talents vs the enemy and theirs, but that beginning part is a good attitude for brightwing, or fake it til you make it anyway.
So if the game has been going along and you're generally catching 3/5+ teammates (just half or more, including yourself. auto attack is still useful) in your passive, get that at 20. if you need to blink out, or heal more than one person at once with your ult, choose dubs. Storm shield is okay, but you really need to know when to use it or have a higher burst/dps team for 20% shield for 3 seconds.

If you have a way better single target healer than Brightwing will be, or Kharazim, I can almost promise you can go completely on the offensive and probably still top their healing on the board, but when you take where they came from, a passive tick hitting all of your low life teammates while they get picked off isn't as productive. It's pretty fun for Towers though, and not always useless
>>
>>123673136
>>123672395
it annoys me how Kel'thuzad magically turned into an orc when he became a lich because Blizzard was too lazy to make a human lich model for him in WC3
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>>123672737
>maelstrom
>bad

I'm sorry, but fucking what? The comparison to burning rage isn't even applicable. It does eight (8) times the damage, hits a larger area, and gives you shields for all the damage you're doing. Maelstrom is a great teamfight ult.
>>
Has Blizzard even acknowledged that Gazlowe is shit yet?
>>
>>123673397
>It does eight (8) times the damage,
8 times barely anything still isn't a lot
>and gives you shields for all the damage you're doing.
10% of the fuck all damage it does
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sapper goblin when?
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>>123673507
his turrets getting 50% of lazer damage or something
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>>123673657
oh man a techies clone-ish would be fun as hell
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>blizzard in charge of bugfixing
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I don't know which Chen skin to get.

Lunar festival skills and animations looks great but the base looks is meh.
Brewmaster Chen looks great in general, especially the black and white, but the base skills are meh. The keg change is nice though.
>>
>>123673543
>8 times barely anything still isn't a lot
Except you're hitting their entire team with it for 7 seconds. That's a lot of collective damage for a teamfight, and can easily mean the difference.

>10%
Except assimilation is doubled against heroes. Pls post hotslogs.
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>>123673397
100 second cooldown

Deals 180 (86 + 4% per level) damage per second (lasts 7 seconds)

That's literally all it does. her shield is 10% of all the damage she deals, 90% of which is going to come from her main combo and basic attacks anyway. you're getting maybe an 200 health shield from the Maelstrom itself over the course of the ENTIRE duration of 7 seconds

that's literal shit, BW's passive heal is stronger than that and she doesn't even have to do anything

it's a shit ult
>>
>>123673793
if you end game in clone you get that hero on the end screen
>>
>>123673793
>tfw Abathur has been lifting
>>
>>123673894
>Except you're hitting their entire team with it for 7 seconds
and if you're hitting their whole team with it, they're going to fucking murder you because you'll never outshield the damge of anything because Assimilation is a terrible trait
>That's a lot of collective damage for a teamfight, and can easily mean the difference.
if they literally completely ignore you while you stand in the middle of them hurting them, yeah it's a fair chunk
>Except assimilation is doubled against heroes.
20% of nothing isn't much better than 10% of nothing
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>>123672395
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>>123674261
the shit at the bottom is what i saw when i was a kid and saw the things at top

now that i look back no it, i don't think it's aged very well, but still, good memories
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>>123673793
Abathur have been training.
>>
>play fi rst hero league match in months
>our first pick insta locks kael thas
I knew right away it was a loss and when he died 10 fuckign times I was proven correct
>>
>>123674261
that tyrande boobjob
>>
>tfw you can't find a boyfriend that'll play hots with you
>>
>>123672395
>>123674261
Well apart from been the same character those two polygon’s are obviously different, the first one have a much bigger ribcage and it’s more detailed
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>HL
>our first pick instalock Gazlowe
>second pick on enemy team AFKs
>draft is canceled

thanks for having my back, bro
>>
Kerrigan's passive needs buffing to be honest.
>>
Why is Nazeebo a specialist?
>>
>>123675183
b-but Maelstrom is good if you hit the entire enemy team and two minions waves with it for the full 7 seconds
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>>123675201
because __________________________________racism
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>>123674927
i don't care if this is bait, /hotsg/ is so dead i might as well take the bait

are you kidding me?

each day, millions of fat neckbeards go lonely and have to resort to their hands each night while playing Tyrande and feeding over and over again just so they can hear her moaning death cries

>tfw you can't find a phyiscally fit and attractive boyfriend that'll play hots with you

because the fit and attractive guys are out doing shit outside because they've got the assets

fucking swear, if you're female and post your battletag here, you're gonna get millions of mouth breathing neckbeards who want to play with your because "grill"

if you're not female, post your battletag anyway, i'm sure there are other faggots here who are lonely enough

i'd rather see more of this than lili shitposting baka desu senpai
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>>123675201
Same reason why rexxar is a warrior.
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>>123675314
>tfw even Art-ANUS can stack more shields in less time just by existing near the enemy

>>123675413
I'm a boy though. inb4 "lol fag gtfo"
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>>123674927
Thats gay anon.
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>>123675380
then why can't Nazeebo run when he gets ganked and killed for the 9th time in every game?

>>123675515
>if you're not female, post your battletag anyway, i'm sure there are other faggots here who are lonely enough

did you fucking read my post?
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>>123675515
>if you're not female, post your battletag anyway
>>
what does /hotsg/ think of Gigantic
?
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>>123675876
I played the beta a bit. It was kinda meh. The initial trailers for the game made it seem like the immortals were going to be on the battlefield fighting alongside you, but they're really just an objective like every other game. The UI and interface was really rough too, but they'll probably fix that
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>>123675876
i was part of the alpha and the beta, it's pretty fun, balance is fucked but whatever, it's still in development

it's windows 10 only so fuck that shit, maybe i'll consider it next year when it actually comes out, maybe people will have figured out how to disable all that backdoor tracking shit

also, gtfo faggot, this is /hotsg/
go make your own general
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>tfw you want Kael'Thas to anal ashore his salami inside you
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>>123676031
m8 I was just asking if people who play hots like [other moba] so I can see if *I'd* like it anyway fuck you too
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>>123676042
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>>123675201
he just exists to piss off people with no escapes. good laner too if you compare everyone untalented.
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>>123668028
>Shadow Bolt Volley is fucking garbage. It's literally an even worse triple tap.

Except you can move while doing it and it actually does damage
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>A Sgt Hammer complaining about other people's choices.
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>>123676476
Triple tap is shit but it's the single highest damage ult in the game I believe
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>>123673270
I feel like Brightwing has improved with the death timers being longer. It actually matters save people early and get off surprise ambushes.


I've found that on two lane maps I generally don't need hyper shift as much and I can get away with unfurling mist. Sometime I take hyper shift anyway. Bribe is shit for her, and flare is kind of a joke spell.

I agree with most of your points, bright wing actually has relatively speaking, many viable choices to make based on team comps.
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>>123676690
>Triple tap is shit but it's the single highest damage ult in the game

Unless your target gets healed, shielded, or steps behind another hero or building

It has high numbers but the average Nova will never get those numbers to stick
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>>123676690
meant

Triple tap is shit but it's the highest damage single target ult in the game I believe
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>>123676928

Yes but you said it was shit damage, it's a shit ult on a shitty hero that counterable. But damage wise on a single target it's probably the highest damage or at the least top 3.
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>>123674549
>next game someone lock in illidan
>10 deaths
WHY GOD ARE ALL KAELS AND ILLIDANS SHIT
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>>123676192
it's free to play
or more like free to wait until their servers stop being shit and you can try it for a weekend or two, maybe

wait until next year when they've actually finished the fucking game

and fuck me? no no no, fuck you. actually the game reminds me of SMNC, god bless its soul
>>
How am I supposed to play Jaina with high ultra high cooldowns? What is the general order of her spells?

coe>backout if needed>blizzard>ult
(shoot icicle if appropriate)?

I feel like I'm playing a watered down Kael.
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>>123677735
RIP in pizza SMNC ;-;
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>>123678000
I've always wanted to try that game, is it too late?
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>>123677929
jaina have better burst than kael
ult depends on the map, having circle on battlefield or temple is better than elemental
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>>123678276
August 14th, 2013
development on SMNC was postponed indefinitely

:(

shame too, it was a really fun game, too bad not many people got a chance to play it, and those that did only have good memories of it
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>>123677929
you should try to land a frostbolt first, than coe(with root) followed by blizzard.

Treat blizzard like an ult due to its CD, dont spam it if you wont hit anything.
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Lookin for a cho bro

Riph#1744
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>be Raynor with giant killer
>forced to fight against a team with KT in a chokepoint, our healer is a LiLi
>only able to hit the enemy Johanna without risking myself dying
>lose but disengage missing only our tank and Thrall
>"raynor only atk tank"

I don't know what else I was meant to do.
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>>123679152
>only able to hit the enemy Johanna without risking myself dying

you didn't do anything wrong
there, you feel better anon?
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>>123679152
not play like an idiot, duh
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>>123659939
>mfw I topped hero damage with 155k, 9k 1d 21a as gaz
>mfw my team was gazlowe murky rexxar abathur and lili
>mfw we won
Matchmaking couldn't find a real game for us so we played against level 5s
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>QM as Zagara
>team comps are set up so the enemy team can effortlessly dive me no matter what and my team can't do shit through a mix of bed characters and incompetence
love this meme
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>>123678897
EU?
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>>123679598
>literally matched against babbies first match
>hurr durr I won gazlowe confirmed for viable

Gazlowe players, everyone!
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>>123676821
Flare should have way longer range and give wide vision along its path. Or it should hang in the air and slowly descend giving a large circle of vision that slowly decreases as it descends
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>>123680206
That was the joke. Are you autistic
>>
DAILY REMINDER THAT REPORTS DON'T DO ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR

"abusive chat" where players need to get reported in at least 70% of their games before they receive a 5 day silence

every other report function is a placebo and is there to just make you feel better
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>>123680206
>literally
>level 5
Not their first match.
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>>123678510
>>123678825
So generally Im playing around landing blizzard well? Makes since.

For cone's root, should I just not bother trying to net multiple roots?

>>123679598
I don't know why, but whenever I play Gaz my winrate is like 70% I just don't play him retardedly. I think retards on the other team tend to think "oh thats gaz, I can fuck him up!" then an illidan will dive me in range of 3 turrets and try to solo kill me.

I guess most Gazlowes would run out of cover, but if Gaz has turrets up, I don't think anyone can really solo him, not Illidan anyway. It's like the one situation where he's good. If you have turret slow all you do is take a little beating on, pop your time bomb and try and get them to walk into it while the turrets peck away. Then he can sprint for maximum kiting.

Something about Gazlowe makes bad Illidan's even worse than having a Gazlowe.
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>>123680430
Except I've seen multiple people get temp banned for racism and I got some guy who plays Nova who nobody likes on my campus perma banned for reporting him for "Maphacking" back when it was a meme to report all Nova pickers.
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>>123675589
>implying faggot attention whores have enough of an attention span to look at anything that isn't themselves for long enough to read that post
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>>123680648
racism falls under the Abusive Chat report function
no one has been permabanned in the past 4 months since release of hots because blizzard stopped listening to meme reports
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>>123680235
Yea, it's speed and difficulty to land is that of something you expect to have a huge payoff while Malf has an instant good range attack that does almost the same thing.

Instead you get like, two auto attacks worth of damage. It's so slow and telecasted, yet I've never seen anyone actively try to dodge it, because who cares.

Vision would make since given, it's a flare. It should be like Rattle Traps flare from DoTa. That would give her extra global presence and make flare meaningful. Or just a really high range like Azmo's basketball.
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>>123676192
even "satirically" saying mate, m8, or any other corruption of it is for total dildos
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>>123680014
US

Should have mentioned that
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>Play new map
>alt tab quickly to answer skype
>come back to this
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>>123681683

it's a beta
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>>123681683
>Normal Jaina on a normal horse.

Whenever you see this you know you are fucked.
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>>123680581
Well technically you can net multiple with the root if you get a blizzard wave on them and make sure the second hits with them rooted. Cone generally is best used on a chilled target since its your highest damage spell. But make sure it's used on a chilled target the root is OP
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>>123681683
>free hero week Jaina

cancer
>>
I hate Uther free week
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>kael doing less damage than chen all game and dying right before every objective
>he quickly squeezes out a a bunch of hero damage before our core is destroyed so he doesn't look bad
epic
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>>123682645
Indeed, any week free of Uther is painful. You kinda feel abandoned by the light without him (but the light abandons no man so you're fine :3)
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>>123682770
the light abandon snowman
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>tfw you disable HDR and Speculation and Uther's armor doesn't shine anymore

:(
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>>123684171
>speculation
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>>123684171
>not maxing out your settings when you play
>>
is groupies the best build for ETC?
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>>123684793
:(

:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

>being piss poor and having to manually mess around with the variables.txt file to even get a consistent 50 fps

feels bad man
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>>123684943
>not upgrading your gpu and down-sampling just for Uther

I'd like to say the light abandons no man but it has abandoned you
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>>123685319
>tfw i can only dream of antialiasing
>tfw i'm jealous of the texture level on Uther's right shoulderpad
>tfw i can make out the texture on the fucking goat's horns
>tfw the light has abandoned me

:(
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>>123661294
>play brightwing
>get team with Nova and Abathur on it
>have zero lane presence what so ever, brightwing and nova are forced to solo lane
>enemy team has perfect comp
>lose
Match making fix when?
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>>123686168
He still believes in you anon that you will eventually play him in all his rightous glory
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>50% Off Sale

You DID buy all the remaining 10k heroes you didn't have, right /v/?
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>>123688028
I already had every hero.
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>>123688028
Not spending real world money on heroes.
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>>123688028
>Buying medic

yeah no thanks
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>>123688028
>/v/

This be /vg/ yo
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>>123688028
but I hate Nova and Rexxar
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>>123689740
>Hating the Horde Batman.

What's wrong with you?
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What would the best two 10k heroes to buy be? Each needs to be a different role and preferably one should be an assassin.
>>
Medic Uther

or

Frostlord Rexxar
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>>123689946

Kharazim and Kael'Thas
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>>123689946
khara seems like the easiest pick to start with. warriors aren't really strong.
kael is the obvious assassin but all of them look due for price drops aside from butcher. that goes for the specialists as well. maybe see what happens with lunara and greymane
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>Murky builds bubble
>lose
holy fuck I love this meme
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Is it me or does MMR seem meaningless in this game?
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>>123688028
>giving blizzard money
Not anymore
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>>123691985
Is it me or is this game meaningless?
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>>123681442
No, your tag starts with 1. Anyone not retarded knows what's up.
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>>123691985
Look at the average mmr of both teams, anon. If it's even, the game is even.
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>>123692461
life is meaningless anon
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I'm diamond 3 in LoL, played this game in "technical alpha" and I'm max level on Illidan but haven't played in some time, how well will I do now?
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>>123693305
This game requires 0 knowledge, just the very basics of any MOBA.
You'll do fine.
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>>123691985
Chen, Sylv, and Li Li were all carried up to their current MMRs, those faggots don't belong there, hence why you see such a massive swing, especially for Sylv

Everyone else seems to be right where they belong with and MMR change of less than 20, except for Kha, who's almost settled down to where he belongs

Looks pretty okay to me. Sylv and Li Li better shut the fuck up and never speak again because those faggots are no where near what their skills are. Sylv is closer to 1000 and Lili is around 1800 MMR.
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>>123693196
t-thanks for the heads up!
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>>123693548
It seems impossible to climb out of an MMR even with improving yourself once you settle with this system though; like if you dropped your MMR because you played different characters. There should really be seperate MMR for each character you play.
>>
>playing as Rexar
>highest damage on team, Micro is on point
>enemy team focuses Misha instead of Kerri and Fal
>Morales gets mad at me for feigning death when they stop focusing misha and focus me
>"If you feign death, they are going to focus me next you asshole! Fucking stop you shitter"
>"I'm not going to."
>He refuses to heal me from now on
>I still 3v1 vs a Naz, Arthas and Gaz

I haven't played any ASSFAGGOTS in ages, I forgot how irrational people are. This event mixed in with people losing 1 thing or us being 1 level behind and they yell gg noobs and afk for the rest of the game.
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>>123686168
>>123684943
>variables.txt
>antialiasing
what?
what the hell is that, and all of those extra graphics?
lowfag here. dump it all into asymmetric business class internet. efficiency>aesthetics
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I was bored. Too bored for my own good.

Anyone wanna play with a above average(so I'm told) medic? I'll be in the /vg/ channel.
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>>123694532
>finally get an opportunity to play with reds
>can't play
life is suffering
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nova a slut
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>>123694058
fuck off faggot

no, there should never be separate MMR for each character, what the actual fuck is that?

it takes 20 games to get a rough estimate for your MMR after placements

20 games PER character? fuck off

how fucking bronze are you to be THAT retarded?
>>
my hatred is unending
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>>123694058
Once you get good enough there should be no visible impact on your mmr from playing a new hero. Learning enough to not be a burden takes 2-3 games max.
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>>123695379
1000 YEARS
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>>123694673
Snoipah#1274 is my battletag for later, why can't you play?
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>>123695379
of course it is, you would be too if you got 10000 years of blue balls for tyrandes sweet ass
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>>123691985
the people with bigger swings are newer. looks like sylv's literal first game

you can also look through accounts there to spot the uploaders and friends carried over the ones not. arthas probably isn't that far behind everyone there. zeratul could be inflated somehow, or an unlucky 600s queuer.

>>123693305
you probably won't get far beyond whatever percentile that is here in hero league

>>123695402
>things shitters believe
maybe if you are new anyway or garbage at everything

https://heroesmodelling.wordpress.com/2015/10/05/how-does-experience-with-a-particular-hero-affect-performance/
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>>123695936
i'll drop you a message later
still got things to work on and do
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>>123695258
Takes longer, but it would certainly create a more accurate MMR for each player and consequently a better match making. A 3k MMR player playing a character for the first time won't preform as well as he does with his best characters.
>>
>6 game loss streak
>win one game
>lose the next one to an AFK Gall
nice game hotshits
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>>123695258
it's common sense that would already be part of the game if blizz wasn't so good at selling people shiny but stripped down featureless games. you'd still have your precious rank 17 account
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>overextending: the game

15 deaths within the first 5 minutes in which TLV were afk

Never change, quickmeme
>>
I don't know what happened but it seems that because of this Black Friday Sale players got shittier. Usually the worst are those with shop-skins.
>>
>>123697747

>not using your passive

"guys, look how good i am!"
>>
>Just bought Spectre Illidan

I love this sale
>>
>go back to Illidan
>start using the hunt
>it's actually amazing

do people still favour meta or am I just way behind the metagame?
>>
>>123698435
Its fun as fuck bro.
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>>123698152
They just got eaten one by one, I didn't even get the chance to heal anything, trait or alive. First match ever that I didn't enjoy at all.
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>>123697747
how the fuck do you have such shit healing with Uther?

you have a burst target heal
and aoe line heal
you have a heal on basic attack
you have benediction which gives you 2 burst heals
you have eternal devotion with gives 4 massive burst heals

fuck me you're legit bronze projecting on others about how bad they are when you can't even play your own hero properly
>>
How is a half decent Cho remotely balanced? Starts with 3500 health, ends up with 50% or more health than a Warrior of equal level, insane pushing, great consistent damage output, two stuns, a dash, damage mitigation, and self healing.

Literally le two headed balanced ogre man.
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Lunara is cute. CUTE.
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>>123697747
more like nova:the game
such a shit character to play

>0 warriors and it's a joke
>1 warror and it might be interesting if your team is decent AND isn't crying over you playing nova
>2 warriors and you feel like leaving if their team is remotely competent

>>123698762
looks like no one to inflate numbers with. not that bad considering valla/nova can just focus whoever they feel like in a few seconds.
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>>123699004
That's cute to you? Are you into some deer cunt fetish or some shit?
>>
>>123698762
Not defending my Uther play, but Kerrigan and Valla were just solo sieging and dying. The few full team encounters we had everyone just got bursted down through all my cooldowns. Muradin hat some mad stacks.
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>>123699004
her face scares the living willy out of me
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>>123698435
I use it just for the YOU ARE NOT PREPARED
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>>123699429
thats the night elf part of her that wants to rape you
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>>123699803
>dickhead
DELETE THISSSSSS
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>>123699803
>tfw you can see the tip
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>>123699803
I'm more disgusted by the text and awful drawing.
>>
>mrw team throws by trying to base race against a DK(Arthas), Sylvanas and Murky even afterwards I told them that we had 4 up and we could've defended since they had to take our gate and keep before advancing to core

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZVjKr_nets

Why do I feel nothing but sadness when I play this game?
>>
>>123698435
Meta is still slightly better IMO, its just a 60/40 pick instead of the 99/1 that it used to be
>>
>US10 decides to lag out on me to an unplayable point
only memestant
>>
>>123701003

so what changed? did it just get a buff or did other changes happen?
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>>123699930
i couldnt help it
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>>123698269
Good goy. Give us your money for pixels that don't mean anything
>>
>>123699803
i do hope the neckbeardirators aren't watching
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>>123699002
>anub wraps him
>it's 5v3
>leoric ws him
>free hp
>leoric spectral leeches him
>500 hp per swing
>Raynor giant killer him
>ez gaming
>gets out of position once
>smart opponents wait for his stun to charge up and cancel it
>he can't escape
>it's 5v3
He sucks m8
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/hotsg/ rank 10 blogger here

it's been 3 weeks

>still rank 10
>still 10 more wins than losses
>W:L ratio has dropped to shit
>Johanna still a best

how do i get out of here?
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>>123699204
>Are you into some deer cunt fetish or some shit?
Don't know. Maybe.
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>>123699204
ummm its doe cunt get it right???? ??
>>
>>123702869
so like... does she have 2 sets of intestines or something?

like, there's her humanoid abdomen... with what i presume are all its organs... and then there's a the deer guts...

so like, does the deer part digest the stuff that the humanoid part eats? or like, how does she chew the cud if it's down past 2 sets of stomachs?
>>
>>123702678
I think rank 3-10 is mmr hell. It's almost impossible once youre stuck there. Every once in a while you'll get in a good game and be the lowest rank and no one calls you out for being shit, you don't feed, you fit in with the game and its obvious you should be there. But then 90% of your games are with actual retards that rage after the first 10 seconds, fight over vision and feed, run around solo in bushes before the game starts and die then rage at team, vallas face checking boss pits, abathur sitting in base all game never body soaking etc. There is really nothing you can do when most of your games consist of drooling retards and the game is decided not by the best player but by the worst
>>
>>123703423
>implying she doesn't digest food through her hooves
>>
>>123703836
>being an andalite
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>>123703947
<>not being andalite master race>
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>>123656447
>mfw friends list is 10% /vg/ and the rest amateur-pros, pros, and leaderboard Hero Leaguers.

If you can penetrate the high mmr games, play with them with or against often, you can find better people to play with.
>>
>>123705041
Takada pls.
>>
>>123657504
lel, tommyshark (my bud) being beat by the memest of memers.
>>
>>123703742
fuck me it certainly feels like it

i was able to slog my way up to 5, then dropped back down to 10, been bouncing aroudn there for the last 3 weeks, can't see to get out of it
>>
>>123658291
>No Battle Momentum
Do you like to lose?

Say goodbye to your 4 second burst heals, 6 second stuns. and shadowstalk spam.
>>
>>123701617

If I spend money anywhere it's literally going to a jew somewhere
>>
>>123705794
Be sure to give him shit for it for me.

For real though, it looks like he was queued with some newer players so I don't blame him. Guess I was just able to corrale my memers better than he could his.
>>
>>123696551
That sounds like a nightmare to implement. inb4 'no it doesn't, i'm a 15 year game dev and this shit's fucking simple you dumbass'
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>>123628289
Because you're a quick match shitter.

The worst part of this game.
>>
>>123707062
Yeah bro everyone should play HL and sit through 2-man ques and retarded drafts XD
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>>123707751
>>123707062
>>123628289
Who cares as long as you're having fun?
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Any one wants to unlock chogall, i need to infect people with the aids for jew gold
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So we all know he will eventually be in, around 2030, how will blizzard tackle him? assuming they do it like tauren chieftain in W3, something like endurance aura will be just too stronk, and war stomp (aoe stun)
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>>123708618
>hots
>fun
ha good one, anon, good one
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>>123708618
>Playing with qm retards is fun

At least in HL you'll get tryhards the majority of the time that draft decent teams/know how to objective.
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>>123708835
He's not going to get in. We won't even get Baine. We'll get Edgarne the retarded brother of Baine and long lost son of Cairne. Then they'll make up some skills because they are too lazy to reinterpret an existing lore character and give them suitable skills that fit their lore.
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>>123701907
Raynor is good against him in theory, but in practice Cho's massive hp pool carries him through that. Leoric does counter him, though.
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>>123708835
Same way they tackled other WC3 heroes that are currently in the game - water down his abilities while somewhat keeping their theme.
Muradin doesn't exactly have a minute long magic immunity with his Avatar either.
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>>123709389
Anon please..
i just want my foundation of durotar team

>>123709572
Muradin was a good adaptaion (at least for me) i like how avatar is mixed up with a 100% proc bash
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>>123709654
Cry to Blizzard then. Doubt it will do much, but if we continue to praise trash like Lunara they will keep doing it more and more because its much easier for them to just make shit up.
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>>123709654
Only downside of his adaptation is the fact that he doesn't shout "FOR KHAZ MODAN" every time he uses Avatar.
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Did they add bans to HL yet?
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>start playing with a friend
>hey guess what I started playing an new hero
>oh no
>It's Abathur
>fuck
>bronziest abathur epic splitpush monstrosity on Towers of Doom XD
I'm going to kill myself, see you guys later.
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>>123708835
>getting another Tauren

Anon stop, I wouldn't be able to control my eagerness
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>>123646372
>>123646605
The thing about Takada is, he can only play one character.
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>both supports build damage
>why do we do more damage than Falstad and Illidan???????
hmmm gee I wonder how running into every fight spamming moonfire and then Twilight Nightmaring does more damage than dinky autoattacks
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>>123710920
If he ever were to play a competitive match, they could ban vikings and you'd essentially have a silver or gold tier player.
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i honestly can't see more than like 3 taurens in the game max, unless they have very different visuals

like, Zeratul, Tassadar, and Artanis are all Protoss, but very unique

Zera is dark green and usually cloaked
Tassadar is golden yellow with his armor
Artanis is annoying bright white and has his twin blades

Hell, for me, I personally get confused by the different Kharazim skins because of their pointy heads and the fist dagger things
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>>123711229
I think a normal Tauren would be pretty visually different compared to a Tauren who carries around a guitar and plays music.
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>>123711229
At this point i'll take any tauren. But cairne deserves the spot (just like i said i want Rokhan in but if you're gonna get a shadow hunter just put vol'jin) hell if they wanna get sunwalker dezco with some actual gear that dosen't look human not even mad senpai
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>>123711229
ETC would be Chocolate brown with an Axe Guitar
Cairne would be greyish brown with a giant Halberd
Hamuul could be dark brown with a totem and be a support/assassin depending on what you use his druid powers for.
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>>123706521
it is fucking simple dumbass but there is no reason when most of the community wants a shitty unranked safe space in QM
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>>123711180
>>123710920
>heroes broken down by hero league wins
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>>123711682
Cairne will get in eventually. WC3 spawned Mobas in a pretty significant way. And most of the WC3 heroes are already in the game. NE are just missing Maive. Undead are missing KT and a Dreadlord. Humans have the whole cast already. Orcs have their blademaster on the way supposedly.
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>>123711804
>hamuul
yes please, we need some balance/feral action in here, not to mention dat sweet druid t6 on todays standars
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I wish Rexxar could do well as a solo tank.
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Protoss
>tfw no Fenix
>tfw no Probe hero

Zerg
>tfw no Infested Alexi Stukov
>tfw no Dehaka

Terran
>tfw no Guy Montag Firebat
>tfw no Rory Swann
>tfw no Arcturus Mengsk
>tfw no Mira Han (Mira Horner)
>tfw Tosh (and his Spectres)
(I was gonna but Matt Horner, but he already commands the Hyperion.. so...)

Other
>tfw no Duran/Narud
>tfw no Xel'naga Hybrid
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>>123712551
Dehaka was hinted in the arena picture.
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>>123682201
senjinn here

i actually prefer normal jaina on her normal horse. jaina will always be that girl in her wc3 cutscene with the ogre to me. plain, simple, but elegant.

just like she is with basic horse riding sidesaddle + default skin
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>tfw your team is actually pretty good
refreshing
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>>123713709
>refreshing
Goddamit, brewmaster.
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Building Falstad for AAs is frustrating because on lvl 20 you know you should pick Nexus Frenzy but Epic Mount is just so FUCKING cool I can't help myself
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>>123713035
Where? can't really see anything that ressembles him
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>tfw johanna looks amazing from this side
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>>123714534
she actually looks cute from that angle
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>>123714459
Oh wait, beneath morales feet on the distance, kinda looks like one of his hands, thought it was some generic bones
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>>123714914
i..... don't think that's dehaka's arm...
like, that could literally be any generic clawed arm #247

maybe? i can kinda see, but i don't think it's enough to be considered an easter egg
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>>123714534
she looks amazing from all sides you fuck
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>>123715538
It could very well be abathur's, and since it's "faded" it's whited out
You have a point but pretty much everything in the picture hints a hero .
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>>123714459
But who those weapons belong to?

Left to right:
>Thrall
>Nova
>?
>Arthas
>?

And what's lying there with a purple liquidy-glow?
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>>123716117
It's the D3 wizard's staff
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>>123716117
Far right is tracer.
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>>123716117
>thrall
>nova
>people say d3 wizard since it looks like a ingame staff but i don't know about it
>arthas
>tracer (sonic girl from overwatch)
And that's Cho'Galls' hammer of twilight, not sure why it's dropping the dark power juice

Just to recap all the shit that's on the pic
>Artanis ship on the sky
>Greymane's potions on top of lunara
>zeebos dagger with some dead spiders at morales feet
>Murkfish
>Olaf's shield
>mysterious white hand of doom
>fuckin arrows everywhere
>right side some really big dude with horns, kinda looks like a butcher
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>>123714442
>tfw building E/D/Z
>can't do damage for shit, but unkillable and everywhere
fun stuff
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>>123716416
Oh! Arcane Mage when?
>>
>tfw my favorite heroes fill the commonly wanted roles

I guess I can never use Sylv or Naz in QM.
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Starcraft
W - 1
A - 3
S - 2
S - 3

Diablo
W - 5
A - 2
S - 1
S - 2

Warcraft
W - 8
A - 6 (+2 Lunara, Graymane)
S - 6
S - 3

Retro
W - 0
A - 0
S - 0
S - 1


Come on Blizzard
(also, we only have 8 more open spaces after Lunara and Graymane get in, i wonder who those 8 will be
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when's the next hero due, not sure whether to spend my 12k on existing ones or hold out for a 15k day one broken character purchase
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>leaver queue on my NA account
>just getting the game out of the way, autoselect to make the queue faster
>roll Nazeebo against a team with no burst
>have the most fun I've had in ages

I should play Nazeebo some more but he's kind of bad right now
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>>123717674
>Diablo's massive warrior over representation
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>>123710812
>Tfw getting plowed by a big, strong tauren.
I-it's just too much... :3c
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>>123717728
>day one broken character
>rexxar
>artanis
>morales
>cho'gall

all the heroes suck now.they are trying too hard to be original and unique so they all come out shit. they need to make another raynor like character.
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>>123717883
Tyreal
Sonya
Johanna
Diablo
Leoric

5

Though Diablo, Sonya and Tyrael are more off-tank brusiers, and only Johanna and Leoric are true "tank" type warriors
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>>123715687
This guy knows what's up

>Tfw undressing johanna after a long day of fighting, feeling that musky earthy scent that's build up under that armour after a whole day.
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>>123718057
I know who they are. I just always thought it was weird that fully half of the Diablo characters are warriors, and that they managed to get 5 before they had a single support
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>>123718057
>Leoric true tank
I get it, but
>tfw getting valla, murky falstad and nova in the enemy team
>tfw you're the only warrior
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>>123717674
>we only have 8 more open spaces after Lunara and Graymane get in, i wonder who those 8 will be
It'll be expanded like before.
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>>123711934
>>123711180
Post your hotslog.
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>>123712551
We really need a firebat and marauder hero but i doubt that blizz remember Gui Montag, also a Goliath or Viking hero would be cool too.

>Rory Swann
>Mira Han (Mira Horner)
Why would you want them?
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>>123718241
oh, my bad, i misread your reply then

yeah, that's pretty fucking bullshit, especially since they have a fucking Amazon, Necro, Sorcs, hell, even the Druid and Assassins from D2 (not even including all the memes like Cain, Wirt, or the "dark wanderer")

plus, there's a ton of people in D1-3's lore that can be called upon, including various demon lords, Mephisto, Baal, Andariel, Duriel, hell we could even get Blood Raven as the 'amazon' class


>>123718260
i feel the feel that you feel bro
>>
i'm having great success with morales solo queue, is it because i'm still in shitter leagues or is she actually good?
>>
>>123711932
>being a QM shitter
>Never wrote code before
>>
>>123718667
>tfw Gui Montag never
>tfw Tom Kazansky never
>tfw Alan Schezar never
>>
>>123718692
it's harder to counter pick a Morales in QM since the teams and maps are random

the enemy team just might not have a way to poke you down or a hard engaged that can force you to back off your healee


so yeah, it's a bit of column A a bit of column B
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>>123717674
>Mephisto, Baal, Andariel, Sorcesses, Blood Raven, Amazon, Wizard all aren't in the game because they can't be warriors.

It finally makes sense.
>>
>>123718692
as long they don't focus you, a-okay. and if you can stim a nice aa guy, then all is peachy keen
>>
>>123718692
>>123718915
TFW no big manly warrior to carry my supple Morales-butt through hero league.
why even live?
>>
>>123718847
At least Duriel has a chance.
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>tfw you Radament's lair for the first time in Act II
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>>123711180
>>123710920
Before I played vikings and got to an MMR with highly skilled players, I played alot other heroes and played them poorly. It's different now. I remember I even went auto attack build Valla for 10s of games back then. And vampiric assault on Raynor. This was about 5 months ago.

I'm sure you can say the same about your hotslog bad or not.
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>>123718785
>none of this is relevant or accurate
>>
>>123719063
>big manly warrior to carry my supple Morales-butt
but Morales' best partner is Sonya
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>>123719178
>tfw when that face
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>>123719275
Are you saying Sonya isn't super manly and hot? :3c
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hey guys, the gangs all here

when will these comfy heroes get called to the Nexus?
>>
so is it just me or are tychus and morales flirting at the start of matches with their banter
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>>123719578
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>>123719261
It's pretty relevant and accurate.

Either you or anon whines about individual MMRs for each hero for QM. This is a nightmare to implement on a game that's already set in its ways. Not to mention retaining MMR data for each hero and multiply for every account and pitting that data against 9 other individual MMR hero data.

You make no mention of HL therefore you are most likely a QM shitter.
>>
>>123719578
>all that SJW pandering
no thanks tumblr
>>
>>123719578
>tfw no necromancer specialist that get skeleton out of enemy minion waves ala sylv possesion
>>
>>123719643

galaxy quest really is a great movie
>>
>>123719178
>be lightning sorc
>chain lightning all day
>everything dies
gg ez
>>
>>123709468
I don't think you understand how %damage works
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>>123717886
Ew no. I don't want that, I just really like taurens :)

Plus I already have a husbando
>>
>>123719704
nah still irrelevant. game's centered on protecting perma-casual dailies only mode because that's where the money comes from. doesn't matter how hard it is when it's useless. go ahead and say implement some more like you know what you are talking about though
>>
>>123717920
How is rexxar unique
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don't play EU on the weekend

it's not a good idea
>>
>>123721271
its unique within this game.
>>
>>123717920
Rexxar's big problems were fixed when they increased lease range and made a command to control Misha.
>>
does anyone else find nazeebo incredibly boring to play, wimpy jar of spiders, slow toads, what a snooze fest
>>
Anyone up for a few QMs? In /vg/'s channel, starting soon.
>>
>>123721213
O-oh. I seem to have misjudged you. How embarrassing. Good luck with your husbando! :3
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>>123721365
>tfw some of the worst games you'll ever play
>tfw some of the funniest games you'll ever play

Why is it such an emotional rollercoaster?
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>>123721365
>>123722386

Never underestimate the pickoff power Murky/Nova has against typical EU trash feat. Moraleshit. Had to go 7SS to augment our shaky damage base but it seemed to work out.

I enjoyed this match but I won't play another tonight incase I push my luck too far

also awoo~
>>
Haven't played in awhile, getting used to the changes. I'm still rank 1 for some reason(guess theres no rank decay?)

Anyway, what's the meta like now? I see that Tychus is still dogshit, Zeratul still broken? Raynor still good?

I usually play warriors and supports, with the occasional assassin if my team needs it.

Is the tier list still something like
Johanna Leoric Sonya
KT Jaina Zeratul Raynor
Zagara/Nazeebo
Uther Malf Tyrande
>>
>>12372425
pretty much
Nazeebo is kinda shit, replaced by Sylvanas
Malf is pretty shit, replaced by Kharazim
>>
>>123724275

Zeratul finally got told off and sent home and is now in the lower half of heroes.

Raynor is still very strong and Tychus is indeed dogshit

Also the tier list is more like

ETC = Muradin > Johanna = Leoric for maintanking
KT = Jaina = Falstad > Raynor for ranged assassin
Zagara = Sylvanas > Nazeebo for specialist
Uther > Tyrande = Kharazim for support, Tyrande advised to be paired with a secondary support like Tassadar
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>>123724275
Zeratul isn't nearly as good as he was. He's just okay now. Raynor is still very good.

Muradin / ETC/ Leoric - Sonya isn't a tank.
KT/ Jaina/ Raynor
Zagara/ Sylvanas/ I don't know maybe Murky.
Kharazim/ Tyrande/ Uther
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>>123724680
Naz is pretty dog shit now honestly. He's pretty much just useful for his ult if he can be protected.
>>
>Your favorite heroes are either meme tier or bullshit cancer tier
end me now
>>
>>123724870

I agree, Nazeebo doesn't particularly have any good points to scale or spike at compared to other specialists nowadays, which explains his rather comprehensive abandonment in competitive play. He's still fine in Hero League AS LONG AS
>he's the only hero you have which requires significant levels to get going - don't pick him if you have heroes like Kael'Thas, Artanis or Abathur!
>you have strong burst damage to work alongside his sustained damage - perhaps with Jaina and Tyrande?
>you pick your ult wisely - Ravenous Spirit is higher reward, but also higher risk! Perhaps Gargantuan if you're dead set on playing Nazeebo but aren't too sure you'll be able to be guarded from stuns?
>>
Jaina's master skin has to be the best single piece of art Blizz ever created
>currently saving 10k for her
>tfw gold sales never
>>
>>123726562
It is probably the best skin in the game
>>
>>123726562
>>123726736
Seems like a bit of an overstatement. It's nice but even the Tempest skin is better.
Muradin's master skin is pretty damn nice too.
>>
>>123726562
>juiced up mage t1
>good
>>
How is this game for someone that prefer LoL and Smite over Dota2?
>>
>>123727493
Tempest skin is her worst skin, Jaina has the best master skin in the game by far.
>>
>>123726736
but that's not grey base Uther or Kvaldir Leoric
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>>123727612
Not enough waifus
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>>123727750
they definitely tried on jaina's master skin the other master skins look like garbage in comparison
>>
>>123718204
woah chill with the lewdness
>>
>>123727864
But if I don't play for waifus, would I have fun in it?
I pretty much got interested on Johanna, Sylvanas, Kharazim, Diablo, Nova and Valla.
>tfw ping will probably fuck me up good
>>
game is so ded blizzard can't even afford a new thread long after the old thread died off
>>
>>123727864
>johanna
>not the highest on purity
she doesn't even know what sex or even a penis is.
>>
>>123727864
Why is an emo corpse in the highest tier?
>>
>tfw we get their boss on cursed hollow and reds uses a medivac to our own boss on cursed hollow and we take that too
medic confirmed top tier
>>
new therad u ufcks

>>123728585
>>123728585
>>123728585
>>
>>123718667

I'd play the shit out of a Golliath or Firebat hero.

What Roles would you think though? I'd lean Ranged Warrior and Melee Warrior myself (With the firebat having AOE melee as his passive)

It would feel weird if the Golliath and Firebat couldn't take a hit.
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