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/lisg/ - Life is Strange General #249

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"Amortentia" Edition

Previous Thread: >>123310761

Life is Strange is an episodic interactive drama from DONTNOD Entertainment. Set in the Pacific Northwest in the town of Arcadia Bay, the player follows the story of Maxine Caulfield and her seemingly newfound ability to turn back time. At the prestigious Blackwell Academy, Max must prepare with Chloe Price for the incoming storm of returning to her hometown after five years. Available on Steam, PSN and Xbox Live.

>Official Website:
http://lifeisstrange.com

>Steam:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/319630/
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/4chanlisg

>/lisg/ Permalink:
http://orph.link/lisg

>FAQs, Old Threads/Strawpolls, Soundtrack/Music & Leaks:
http://orph.link/lisgarchive

>/lisg/ Community Written Fan Fiction:
http://orph.link/story

>/lisg/ Content Producers(updated!):
http://imgur.com/a/DOAKn

>Strawpolls:
http://strawpoll.me/5994248
http://strawpoll.me/5994318
http://strawpoll.me/5994342
http://strawpoll.me/6018472
http://strawpoll.me/6033385
http://strawpoll.me/6049599
http://strawpoll.me/6050066
http://strawpoll.me/6071082
http://strawpoll.me/6089148
http://strawpoll.me/6089453

Questions :
>You used the focus ability and traveled back in time while EP5 was still being written. Christian Divine is nowhere to be seen. It's up to you to finish the story. What is your ending?
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Messed up the last thread link too oops.

>>123463238
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>>123572209
I am putting together a flowchart (a-la-/mu/) of music similar to LiS

Currently working on a few different thoughts for the flowchart. If you guys have any ideas, please share. Current plan is 3 categories; Victoriaish, slowcore, and indie pop. To bad I have literally no motivation to work on it...

>tfw I just ate some soup

Pastebin of collected (unsorted) songs so far:
http://pastebin.com/MJrjdDpe

If you want to contribute, please contact me on steam, or reply to this post.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198048865860

not-so Current Pastebin of game's music/progress:
http://pastebin.com/LaUcnMej

Thanks to photoshopgril for putting together the background image and the second chart,
polaroidgril for assembling the album covers/artist names/etc. onto the background image,
Dr. Zaius for helping in general.

I have a torrent of all the games music, Morali's OST, the Vortex Club party, all the licensed songs (most in lossless format), and all the albums they were taken from.

Magnet link:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:4AF55CE2E1F48771E92E4CCE8E92156EC6A96152&dn=various+artists+life+is+strange+ost+2015&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.me%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337

https://kat.cr/various-artists-life-is-strange-ost-2015-t11495485.html

Alternative download on MEGA, if you get it from here, please add the files to your torrent folder to facilitate easier downloads for others.

https://mega.nz/#F!LsBkkBwT!p-2sVb--sT3Tb9K_QDhznA

Spotify playlist of the licensed music here:
https://play.spotify.com/user/pieisablessing2me/playlist/0hlcayMf9otvePDw2MZ6qk
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You will never see Kate being secretly cute around Victoria. :3
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>>123572434
Duty best faction

Freedumb a shit.
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>>123572209
I like the updated content producers album. Thanks for doing that.
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>>123572209
Who the fuck is that supposed to be in the OP picture?
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>>123572691
Thank old OP. I took no part in it. And Savescreen, one of our drawanons, for the idea.
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>>123572758
pretty obviously Kate, m8.
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>victoria will never sit sideways across your lap so you can rest your arms on her toned stomach and feel her warm ass on your lap

Why even live again?
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xth for Kate is simply the best

another Kate thread another great thread
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Any news on anything? ...Even just some fanfic update that you liked or whatever.

>>123572783
Hey, it was my idea! And Savescreen doesn't post stuff here anymore, not that I'd seen at least. Nova is the only one we have left producing content here, but at least it's high quality!

>>123572984
Imagination.
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>>123573284
lol pathetic kek, go to bed already nobody likes your shit character
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>>123573371
There's more lit if you didnt see it already.
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>>123573371
Nothing came up on the Rachel's brother/season 2 anymore, so I guess it probably was a hoax after all.
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Have you seen this man?
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>2015
>January-March totally normal
>pick up LiS on a whim
>rest of the year is a blur of waiting for new episodes and cuteposting on /lesg/
>tfw next year will be back to normal
how do you readjust?
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>>123575679
>tfw next year will be back to normal
Oh, the naivete of youth.
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>>123575679
It's never going to be back to normal. It takes a while for you to fully readjust and start playing shit games like Fallout or the next Morrowind. I can only hope that LIS will never find a sequel to pull me back in, or has a character so unlikable that I ended up turning off from the series completely.
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>>123575679
This is the norm.
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>finally over this stupid game
>I can finally return to society as a readjusted upstanding citizen
>LIS surprisingly sold well world wide
>Squeenix commissioned DONTNOD to make a season 2
>continues Max and Chloe's story at the cliff
>this time Max intervene gets shot but survives
>wakes up in a hospital
>story is now cute girls doing cute things without shitty tornado end of the world plot holes
>they still solve mysteries but with a cute resolution
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>>123576458
>story is now cute girls doing cute things without shitty tornado end of the world plot holes
>they still solve mysteries but with a cute resolution

All of my fucking money, dontnod really have no idea what they had and what they pissed away.
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>>123576458
But neither Max Chloe or Vic is cute, Kate is a qt3.14 tho.
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>>123576458
Even without the tornado destroying the town and killing people, the story still would have been sad and messed up.
While the tornado was pretty lackluster and forced a crappy final choice, getting rid of it wouldn't have suddenly made the game happy.
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>>123576458

this with more comfy sitting prompts
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>>123577165
The tornado is just something that they added to create tension, I mean it was interesting but by episode 5 I was fucking over the nature phenomenon bullshit.
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>>123573284
Did I hear Kate thread?
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>>123577176
Max will bring along her guitar for when every time she sits she can break out into songs. Also more camera prompts, and free will to do things like go out on dates to the new coffee shop/club with Chloe.
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>>123576898
>Rachels necklace
>high boots
>jeans
This Max draws a lot of influence from Chloe it seems.
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>>123577306
The tornado has been there since the start. It's the first thing we see in the game.
It was always planned, but they definitely showed it too early. Since we're supposed to believe Max causes it from using her power...even though she sees it before she even know she has a power.
A better way to do the same story, but make it believable would be to:
>Start game with Max in Jefferson's class
>Class lets out, she goes to the bathroom and takes that picture of the butterfly
>Chloe dies
>Later that afternoon Max is sitting in her dorm
>We learn Max knew Chloe, we can look at the photos she has of them, read her diary, etc.
>Max is sad she never kept in touch with Chloe those years
>Max looks at the butterfly photo from that morning and feels strange
>Suddenly she's back in the bathroom
>Use the hammer to save Chloe
>Fade out of photo focus
>Tornado nightmare
>Max wakes up in her dorm thinking it was all a dream
>She looks at her phone
>She has a text from Chloe telling her to meet at Two Whales next morning
>Max realizes it's not a dream
>Max looks outside, but something is off
>It's snowing
>End of episode 1
It still leads down the same story path, with the same flaws and final decision, but it's at least consistent.
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>>123577387
why did they never let her hair down in the game? Is it because it would be too hard to render?
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>>123577597
Looks pretty good. Nice color combination, is that shirt dip-dye too? And the buttons on that jacket we have to assume are on the inside (they just forgot to add them of course) which makes for a very clean look when buttoned up. That belt (?) is kind of strange.

How do you know it's Rachel's necklace?
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>>123578438
It was from one of the pictures Chloe showed her. I think the belt is from Chloe, I would really like to explore how Max draws influence from Chloe more maybe she might even get a tattoo like Chloe. She seems to come out of her shell after meeting up with Chloe again, they compliment each very well.
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>>123578294
A lot of the short here is because of that, it would have insane clipping issues if they let her hair down. Hopefully season 2 gets more budget. That being said I wouldn't mind seeing pictures of her hair down in an epilogue.
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>>123579042
>Max getting a tattoo, ever
GET OUT
OOOUUUTTTTT!!!!!
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>>123578294

Yeah, it's why hair is always up or just short to begin with. They didn't really have the tech to properly animate the faces in the game so I guess it should be assumed they didn't have the means of implementing hair.
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>>123579042
Oh yeah to see how their relationship would unfold under "normal" circumstances would be great. I just find it interesting that Rachel wore that necklace. That's one of those native american dream catchers, supposed to keep nightmares away.
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I think I prefer Chloe with her original hair.
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>>123578142
I think it works well in retrospect for people who have played the game and know the characters, but it would have been a bit of a downer to play for the first time, to have to watch a girl experience the death of her childhood best friend first hand and then grieve over her. You're basically forcing someone to watch 'Sacrifice Chloe' as their first experience of the game before they get the 'super hero time power' stuff.
It's nice idea to introduce the focus power so early though. Would make Max going back to save William a bit more purposeful and the built up with angsty Chloe feel less random if we're thinking 'oh, we can do something about this!'
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>>123579412
They did have npcs with long hair though.
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>>123579701
Yeah, because for these you hardly have to do any animations or poses and so it's easy to get the hair to look at least somewhat appropriate and not clip all over.
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>>123579256
Her and Chloe can get matching ones.
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>>123579256
I wouldn't like it if regular Max got one tohugh.
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>>123579504
She looks like Gwyneth Paltrow but with blue hair instead of blond.
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>>123579957

>tfw they both get half of a butterfly
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>>123580340
Get half butterflies on wrists. So when they hold hands it makes a complete one.
Nothing too big, bot sure I could see Max with a sleeve.
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WHAT HAPPENED TO THE FUCKING NATO EDITION REEEEEEEEEE
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>>123580905
idk, but my post earlier ITT about the WarPac got deleted for being off-topic. Sometimes mods/janitors delete stuff.
So I'll just stick to LiS, and Pricefield, stuff for now.
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>>123581161
>>123580905
Do we have any STALKER fanart with the girls?
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I want to pluck Max
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>>123580231
Season 2 with punk Max and nerd Chloe when ?
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>>123581161
das not good enough u lil shit
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>>123580905
I couldn't come up with a proper idea for a /lisg/ related thread unfortunately.. and I didn't want the thread to get deleted.
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>>123581261
I think there was one cheeki breeki edit, but I can't find it.
Other than that, no.
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>>123581795
>punk Max is a miracle of the universe
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>>123582779
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bomp
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>>123583163
>Harry Potter and fem Ron (Rhonda?)
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>>123584384
We were barely on page 8. Don't bump it so early FFS.
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>>123584520
>barely on page 8
dis nigga
also i need some entertainment because gmod servers take a long ass time to load on macbooks
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>>123584793
You're clearly new here. Just stop.
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>>123584384
>>123584793
Fuck off retard. Go back to whatever shithole you came from.
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>>123585198
So rude!
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A few days ago people were talking about if LiS was in the 50s. The fashion, having different gangs/ cliques, how non-white characters and same-sex relationships would be treated.
So anyway, I found this was was reading it.
http://archiveofourown.org/works/5232665/chapters/12068018
I like it so far. Greaser Chloe, nerd Max, social groups, etc. And as of the second chapter, Rachel planning something.
I want more of these different era AUs.
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>>123583163
>tfw no more pricefield cuteposting posts
Why live?
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>>123579256
She gets one in this post bae fic and I liked the way it was handled.

http://archiveofourown.org/series/341395
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>>123585831
For Kate
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>>123586405
Kaattttteeeeee
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>>123586405
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At least 10 thread ago an anon recommended some music (Broken Social Scene, Sonic Youth, Red House Painters, Kaki King, Do Make Say Think and some other stuff). If you're still around (or if someone else volunteers) can you pretty please spoonfeed a retard some more?

I'm going to bed so I won't be here to thank you if you do help me so have a Kate instead.
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>>123573960
I read that the second it was released!

>>123575298
I wonder when they will make official statements about that second season. I mean, we know they want to and most likely will be working on it, so no reason to keep that under lock for too long. Maybe an announcement around christmas or for the new year? If by then there's nothing more concrete I'd start getting worried.

>>123585595
Cool, different eras work pretty well because you can kind of still have everything in there that you liked in the game's story but still give it a new feel.

>>123585831
You can post cute pictures too, you know.
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>>123585831
What? That was literally what the post you linked to was about.
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>>123586405
If all I have to live for is that fugly beehive-haired hypocritical slut I might as well go and Kate myself right now.
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>>123578142
This, would have immediately made for a consistent and very evocative emotional theme of looking back and ruminating on 'what you would have done, if only,' and doing anything to fix a mistake or just get 5 more days with someone you love and the chance to say goodbye. Even without exactly knowing she would go back in time, the ultimate tragedy of the story would be earned by Max having had time to understand and regret her mistake of inaction - even if she didn't really know she was going back in time, she'd desire it enough in the moment of doing so to make it more effectively her decision, rather than as is with her simply reacting to the murder of a stranger and then doing basically the only decent thing on impulse and being horrifically punished for it.

But it's pretty obvious that the reason they fucked up something so extraordinarily simple is because they changed the cause of the storm, even if it would always ultimately lead to the same final choice.
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>>123588525
>fugly beehive-haired hypocritical slut
This is /lesg/, right? Only thing in that list that correlates with features of Kate (or anyone else than Rachel) is beehive-hair, and it's cute as fuck.
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>>123591163
She is a slut though.
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>>123590292
She would realize she could also rewind at a different point. Or maybe not at all,only having the ability to jump into photos where she is present.
Anyway, it would still be choice-based As I said it would still be the same story, except introduced differently to be more concise. I almost feel like Dontnod new their "twist" that saving Chloe caused the storm was predictable so they presented it in a dishonest manner to make people think it was something else.
Although I would have applauded them for for a predictable, yet fulfilling story, over what they did: give us whiffs of things, lead us directions, just to bring us to a dead end and reveal our first thoughts (That we quickly wrote off as being illogical) was the truth and to end the story we need to pick two extreme choices with no in-between.
Then they botch it even further by making one of those endings completely unsatisfying and gives no actual closure.
It either comes down to Dontnod being shit writers (Which they've proven they're not throughout the game) or that someone (That they don't want to reveal and doesn't just involve budget) happened between Episode 4 and the release of Episode 5.
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At what point in the story do you think Chloe figured out that Max saving her was the cause of the tornado?

As reckless as she is, Chloe is actually pretty fucking smart (apparently she's a closet science nerd even in the main timeline).

She tells Max the storm and her power are connected in the truck conversation towards the end of episode 2, and she has a book on mystical weather phenomenon she was using to research after Max tells her about the tornado.

Is it possible that Chloe actually figured out quite early on that the storm was Max's fault, but avoided ever directly blaming her because she didn't want to scare her or make her feel guilty (unlike Warren)?
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>>123591576
If you say so
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>>123588525
>Kate
>hyporitical
Nigga, are we even talking about the same person?
She thought Max had the hots for Warren and went with it without even batting an eye because she didn't want to judge.
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>>123592127
Thanks for finally admitting it.
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>>123592310
No problemo, anon
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>all these people hating on Kate
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>>123592121
A scientific, smart person could never figure it out because the tornado has no logical connection to Max saving Chloe. Especially a person who understand Chaos Theory.
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>>123592782
Your waifu a shit.

Vicky will always be the one true queenfu of /lesg/.
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>>123593008
>Vicky will always be the one true queenfu of /lesg/
Lies
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>>123593008
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>>123592953
>>123592121
What does Max even say to Chloe on the cliff? What order does she tell her the vision and saving her happens in? It wouldn't make sense for Chloe (or anyone ffs dontnod) to conclude Max's time-fuckery caused the tornado if she told her she had the vision and /then/ got her powers.
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>>123593008
Not true! Kate is best girl.
>>123593231
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>>123592121
>she has a book on mystical weather phenomenon she was using to research after Max tells her about the tornado
I remember that. I like how they were hitting the books trying to figure shit out. It had potential, it felt like there could be intricate connections underlying everything. Then jump to ep5 when suddenly everyone knows it's just le chaos theory
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>>123593231
>>123593335
>>123593435
The only thing Kate is best at is being the Vortex Clubs toilet!

Your waifu a shit!
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>>123593398
Even if you can conclude that Max messing with time caused the storm, you cannot argue with how stupid it is to think that messing with time even more would fix a problem caused by doing just that.
Like thinking you can extinguish a house fire with a flamethrower.
I get they wanted to have multiple endings as a selling point, but with how shoddy their logic, and choices they gave us, were they should have just committed to one ending and ran with it. Preferably saving Chloe because that was what Max wanted.
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>>123593398

If anything, the logical conclusion most people would come to would be that Max got her powers to save people from the tornado. Which she could have done if she didn't go full retard while dealing with Jeffershit and wasting all week playing True Detective.
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>>123593839
S-stop being so mean!
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>>123593839
(You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You) (You)
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>>123594150
This thread has a no sluts allowed policy. Leave immediately!
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>>123594150
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>>123594305
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Reminder that Kateposting is forbidden. Only non-sluts can be posted here.

Post more Vicky.
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>>123594305
You ogrebaesh.
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>>123593915
Yeah, time travel stories always assume that the last time travel automatically resets the timeline to zero and doesn't count your last time fuckery to even get there. But if that was the case, Max could have just saved Chloe anyways, because she got back to a timeline BEFORE she ever used her powers to save her. Chloe never died in that timeline yet, which means her future was still unwritten and saving her regularly, without using any time rewind shouldn't have fucked with the universe.
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>>123594594
>Post more Vicky.
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>>123594594
>non-sluts
>post vicky
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>>123594305
Well go on then and be sure to leave with ur mum
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>>123594617
Plus Max used her power before saving Chloe because she used it to fix her camera after it falls off the desk, as well as to answer Jefferson's question correctly. So even if she lets Chloe die, she changed time prior to that. Plus you could argue that letting Chloe die is also changing time. Since Max originally stepped out screaming "No!", which either gave/ activated the rewind power. Not intervening and letting Chloe get shot is doing something different than the original. The only logical reason to assume Max even got that power in that time was to save Chloe and cause the storm that would give Arcadia Bay a new chance.
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>>123594678
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>>123594790
Vicky is a non-slut, fuck off with your arrows.
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>>123592220
>Makes a big deal out of her faith
>Throws it out of the window the first opportunity
"Suicide is a sin? Who the fuck cares amirite? :^)>>123591163
>beehive-hair, and it's cute as fuck
That's why the pic you linked to downplays it 100% compared with how it actually is in-game, right? Right.
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>>123595116
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>>123594594
>Only non-sluts can be posted here.
Yes sir!
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Why is everybody bullying Kate?
Where are all the Kate posters? Post Kate please.
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>>123595229
Sure, but it's still cute as fuck

>Makes a big deal out of her faith
No way!

>Throws it out of the window the first opportunity
>"Depression? Never heard of it"
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>>123595229
>>123595561
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>>123595561
Because her family supports the KKK.
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>>123595561
Okay!
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>>123595652
This is next level delusion. Katefags should be eliminated.
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>>123595684
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>tfw watching titanic with my friend
>'what if jack was a time traveller and he found out that letting rose fall off the boat meant that the ships path was diverted slightly, meaning that the ship avoided the iceberg?'
>'And then he had a choice to go back and let her fall but save everyone, or let everything play out but both him and rose can get to safety and survive.'
>'goddammit anon, not that fucking game again'
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>>123595776
>not posting the webm
Why?
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>>123594305
>>123594594

then why are people talking about vicky. aka the town bike?
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>>123595561
Now everyone can get their own Kate Marsh tee!
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>>123595664
that's aplus in my book
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>>123595980
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>>123595973
>Kate
>sluts it up with the whole Vortex Club
>has a sugar daddy she fucks for drugs
>gets BTFO by family

>Vicky
>pure maiden who isn't a hypocrite slut

I think you're confused.
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>>123595960
Okay okay, there you go.
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>>123594617
>Max could have just saved Chloe anyways, because she got back to a timeline BEFORE she ever used her powers to save her.
No. Max went back to the point when she had already used her powers.
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>>123595684
This is cute.

The girls in the gif remind me of Max and Victoria for some weird reason. Just the look they giving each other.
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>>123596223
>Vicky
>pure maiden who isn't a hypocrite slut
who's fucked every dude she finds convinient to fuck.

dude, she even tried to fuck jefferson (which, on retrospective, didn't turn out well for her)

>Kate
>sluts it up with the whole Vortex Club
isn't vicky the leader of the vortex club?
>has a sugar daddy she fucks for drugs
fkon w0t m8?
>gets BTFO by family
so?
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>>123595795
>Delusion
>"B-but Vicky ain't slut, right? Right?"
Oh boy
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>>123595128
The ultimate sad ending.
Turns out in the original timeline, Max shouting would have gotten herself killed as well if it weren't for the time rewind. Her survival summons a tornado too a few weeks after the bay ending, so in order to prevent the tornado for good, she has to go back once more and let Chloe die, then shout and let Nathan kill her too.

"Thank you for crying. Life isn't fair, fuck you for playing our game" - Dontnod.

The end.
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>>123596451
Reminder that Kate buys drugs from Frank
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>>123592097
>give us whiffs of things, lead us directions, just to bring us to a dead end and reveal our first thoughts (That we quickly wrote off as being illogical) was the truth
They managed this really well with the reveal that Rachel isn't some mystic figure, but just a naive girl who ended up dead. That was a terrible downer, but it felt real and fucking beautifully done. The endings just feel cheap and purposelessly cruel, I can't even feel anything for their situation because I just don't buy it on such a fundamental level.

The difference is, Max, Chloe and other characters acknowledge at multiple points that Rachel could be dead. Even if we as Max avoid floating the possibility, the fact that the prompts are there keep it in our minds as something Max is thinking but won't say.
There's no such feeling of denial and inevitability when it comes to the storm and its cause, it's simply left entirely unaddressed. There is plenty of opportunity for the girls to visibly avoid talking about it (eg the many times they talk about Chloe's almost-death awakening Max's powers) and to blame it on outside forces (eg the Prescotts, Rachel, etc), but they simply don't even discuss it. So rather than feeling like a red herring, the Prescott connection simply feels like an aborted plot line at best (which it most likely is), and a poorly handled red herring that was much more interesting than the real story at worst. There was no reason not to have the girls acknowledge that if it was simply a red herring (unless it wasn't, at the time).

The saddest thing about these endings is that they could have made for a really amazing story even with them written as they are with all the same context, with just a few tweaks here and there.
Instead, it seems most likely that Dontnod was telling a very different story and just got far too ambitious for what they could deliver on.
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>>123596451
>who's fucked every dude she finds convinient to fuck.
Untrue.

>she even tried to fuck jefferson
Also untrue.

>isn't vicky the leader of the vortex club?
Untrue and irrelevant to the fact that Kate sucked all the members cocks in one night.

>fkon w0t m8?
Why else do you think she's going to Portland? She needs to make money somehow to support her addiction.

>so?
If you think her getting disowned by her family isn't a big deal you're probably just some trash degenerate too.
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>>123596223
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>>123596694
reminder that so does vicky.
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>>123595874
It's astounding to think of small stuff like that.
Regarding Titanic, if one Officer that left the ship didn't take his key with him then the ship likely would have survived.
Some crew changes prior to sailing and one Officer that was transferred to the Olympic took his locker key with him when he left the Titanic. Inside his locked was the pair of binoculars meant for the lookouts. Who didn't notice the iceberg with just their eyes until it was too late to avoid it.
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>>123596534
Vicky is the 2nd biggest slut in Blackwell after Rachel, Chloe is firmly in 3rd and Dana is 4th.
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>>123596752
She doesn't though.

>>123596534
She's not. Sorry you can't handle in game truth.
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>>123596694
Reminder that it's confirmed she didn't
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>>123596734
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>>123596752
It's hilarious that the only way for Kateautists to defend Kate is to try and mudsling Vicky. Because you know that Kate is actually indefensible. Truly an eye opener.
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>>123596878
Where is this confirmed?
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>>123596991
During the dev stream people asked if Frank's "Katie" is Kate Marsh and they said no.
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>>123596935
>wahhhhh I can't handle the truth so I'm going to spew memes and cry bait

Eric
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>>123596765
For anyone interested:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Blair_%28mariner%29

It applies to other disasters as well. Little, seemingly harmless, things done without thought. Which is why it's hard to place blame on a single person when big tragedies happen.
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>>123596878
>>123596807
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>>123597202
>bait
projecting much?
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>>123597104
Pulling things out of your ass isn't confirming, retard. Katefag damage control is pathetic.
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>>123596310
That blonde girl looks really cute.
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Guys, let's stop with all this hate! Pricefield cuteposting nao!
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>>123597296
I'm not even a Katefag, just telling you where it was confirmed. I'm equally annoyed by both factions. You are both obsessed with insignificant side characters. /lesg/ much like the game itself is all about Max and Chloe. These threads are always at their worst when Kate and Vicky fags are present. This sort of shit flinging never happens during Pricefield hours.
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>>123597487
PRICEFIELD
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>>123597537
You have no proof of this being confirmed, so I don't give a fuck. Fuck off.
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>>123597623
You know it!
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>>123593915
>Like thinking you can extinguish a house fire with a flamethrower.
Ahem, back burning.
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>>123597487
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>>123597671
>you don't have a proof that xy
If you didn't watch the dev stream doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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>>123593831

There was a ton of research on Max's part that you could read at the start of episode 2.
Then episode 5 turns her into a retard who forgets all about the storm literally seconds after it was right in front of her face. After already forgetting all about it in the gallery timeline.
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>>123597840
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>>123597903
If you don't have proof to show me it means it's still canon, sorry!
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>>123597487

S O C U T E
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>>123596310
Oh, they're going to do a line. Hmm just like Maximum Victory do in AU.
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>>123598208
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>>123597998
Go to SE's twitch channel and find the real video.
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>>123598658
No you.
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>>123597487
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>>123598535
cosplay kisu
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>>123599383
Where is Chloe's tattoo?
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>>123600339
look it up
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>>123600384
You look it up.
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>>123600090
>Warren getting the shit kicked out of him at the parking lot as Chloe and Max casually drive away on her bike.
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Where did Chloé learn to defend against knife attacks?
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>>123600704
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>>123597487
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>>123600090
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>>123597163

Anyone interested in completely avoidable tragedies should read Killer Show, super well written and poignant story of all the small bullshits building up over decades that led to an absurdly deadly nightclub fire breaking out and killing 100 people in 90 seconds, just a buncha wide eyed small town era who just wanted to take a break from their boring lives and see a washed up 80s band.
(It was mostly the owners faults though, bloody shitstains, so there's still satsifaction in pinning most of it on someone).
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>>123600981
Oh damn, that's really cool! Source? Google reverse search comes back with none.

>>123601187
That's about the Station Nightclub Fire, correct? As someone studying Fire Science, I've read a decent bit about it and have seen the video. It came down to no sprinkler system, people not knowing of other exits and falling back on instinct to using the way they came in (Which lead to people collapsing from the smoke, piling up, and blocking the door), and perhaps most of all: using pyrotechnics in a fucking tiny space.
Nightclubs have had histories of bad fires with high death tolls. Both accidental and intentional.
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Daily reminder that Chloe and Rachel is the town bicycle. Vicky is still a slut. The only two pure waifus are Max and Kate.
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>>123600793
there's really no justification for it other than that maybe Frank wasn't really trying and couldn't bring himself to stab a girl.

There is almost no defense against a knife attack irl, even if you're a black belt in karate it's nearly fucking impossible the only exception being that if someone comes at you Psycho killer style (knife point facing down) you can use their momentum to stab them in the gut.

But if someone comes at you with a knife pointed upwards, forget it you're done the fights already over.
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>>123602112
>Max
autistic rat

>Kate
resident vortex club slut

Vicky a best.
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Reminder that Kate's "bible study" group is a sex club in disguise.
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>>123602612
200th for kates ass getting pounded by old men on the lords day
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>>123602806
Funny cause this is literally canon.
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>>123602112

>Chloe
>town bicycle
>maybe had meaningless sex with a few guys before realizing shes a dyke

She's Max's bicycle ;)
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last thread there was thread wars

this threads it's vickyfag vs katefag wars

will it ever end?
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>>123603319
European race wars when?
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>>123602190
well Frank doesn't really seem to want to kill the girls, more just scare them and get them to pay him or piss off.
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>>123603396
Not soon enough.
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>>123603447
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>>123603319
Only when everyone has accepted Pricefield as the one true OTP can there be peace.
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>>123603319
Can the 250th thread be the "Make love, not war" edition?
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>>123603447
It's stupid how he gets pissed off for Max knowing Pompidou's name. When there's a food bowl outside the RV with Pomp's name on it.
If anything, hopefully Frank learned a lesson from being shot/ stabbed in the leg about not drawing weapons unless you intend to, and can, use them.
At least Chloe didn't fuck around. Even though she feels bad afterwards.
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>>123603816
No. "War... war never changes" edition has to come first.
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>>123603731
Not so fast bucko. Your otp is stale and uninteresting now. New hotness coming through
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>>123603957
Yea, it's literally Vickyfags vs Katefags every other thread.
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>>123603151
>realizing she's a dyke
>still carrying around a pack of condoms
>wad of cash
>imply she isn't having sex for money/drugs
your naivete is cute.
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>>123603868
Even more stupid if Max pulls the trigger at the junkyard and he lectures her just moments before on that subject.

>"Don't ever point a gun at people unless you're willing to use it"
>points gun at them
>Chloe manages to wrestle it away from him and shoot him in the leg
>"Fuck! Leave me alone! I wasn't gonna shoot you!"
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>>123604232

>wad of cash
>68 cents
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>>123604005
>new
ehhhhhhh
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>>123604556
She's a 10 cent whore.
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>>123604232
Chloe has less than a dollar in change and the condoms are probably old. The only reason she needs her wallet is for her driver's license, otherwise she has no reason to use/ clean it out.
She's made mistake and slept with guys, and has admitted it was a phase in the past. She seems pretty ready to be in a committed relationship.

>>123604298
Yeah. I don't know what Frank was thinking. I don't think there's a single intelligent use of a firearm by anyone in this game aside from Jefferson.
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>>123604232
>still carrying around a pack of condoms

I've heard this plenty of times posted here, but where does it actually come from? She doesn't have it in her pockets during episode 2 and that's the only time you get to check what she carries around with her.
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>>123604943
Gratz Max Chloe is a fine catch for a fucking kek.
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>>123601609
Pretty sure it's by http://nameless-walls.tumblr.com - they only posted it on reddit though, apparently. There was a very similar render as well if I remember correctly.
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>>123605432
Your parsing is atrocious
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>>123605495
> Stop being mad and go to sleep, seek help. Just because you stay home everyday posting on the 4chan and have no education

what do you expect from a mentally ill kate autist? he gets abused by his father on the reg
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>>123605475
Thanks. Unfortunately they don't seem to use tags for their own material, and Tumblr allowing the user to create the layout leaves me without a way to hide/ filter stuff reposted from others.
That image is pretty nice though too. Although the shading on Chloe's face looks a little off. Looking at the pic is reminding me of some Adult Swim shows, specifically Metalocalypse.
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>>123605432
Someone sounds hella jealous
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>>123603816
I support this. Victoria and Kate practically beg to be paired to eachother.
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>>123605245
It's in episode 3. They probably added it in there for those that don't want to romance Chloe or they didn't want to make her look totally gay. I don't know. :/
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>>123607475
>supporting degeneracy

Why? Victoria shouldn't be placed near that slut in images, let alone have that picture be the OP.
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>>123607542
Cut content hinted that Max was supposed to comment on this out loud. I wonder how it would go.
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>>123607858
Why are you changing your trip so often?
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>>123607542
>didn't want to make her look totally gay.
Chloe is totally gay. Well...old Chloe was. ):
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>>123608025
No, I just don't spend 20+ hours shitposting on lisg like Kateautists do.
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>>123607858
Was that the "Hey Chloe, what are these?" in a kind of joking manner?
If Max said anything, Chloe would be honest and once again say how she went through a phase. It's not like she hides it, she admits to it and Joyce even mentions it. They may even be old and forgotten about, they're with a bus ticket which Chloe wouldn't need now since she has her truck.
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>>123608492
Shut up retard.
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>>123608583
No, you.
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>>123603868
>hopefully Frank learned a lesson from being shot/ stabbed in the leg about not drawing weapons unless you intend to, and can, use them.
I love how he lectures you on this once you get it right, after he's potentially broken his own rule infinite times.
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>>123607542

>you will never be a young male during Chloe's experimental hetero phase and get to be inside her

;____________________________________;
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Just finished the game.. Dam feels...

To the moon is 10x more though. I actually cried like a baby. Not like 1-2 tears. Like crying for real.

Any other recommendations? Emotional games i mean
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This "rewind time and try, try again" is actually like reading Greg Egan's "quarantine" only with less consistency in the mechanism and more drama. Max could get rich hacking.

I didn't even twig on the PUK code... damn.
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>>123608140
Old Chloe looks amazing. I like her rainbow shirt.
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>>123608792
Not your blog, cunt.
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>>123608227
> "Hey Chloe, what are these?"
Oh man I forgot about that, anyone have the link?
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>>123608792
Try playing the game of life as our general's shitposter >>123608853

Now that's sad.
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>>123608792

Let me guess, you picked the overly focused ending that makes no sense and was thrown into the game for the sake of being tragic and making delusional people think that crying = it was an amazing ending?
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>>123609003
Nice shitpost.
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>>123609205
Only to appease you anon. Shut up retard.
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>>123608956
Here it is
http://chloepriceprotectionsquad.tumblr.com/post/126206514259
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>>123609380
Shut up retard.
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>>123608738
really a terrible feeling.. at least she'll finally be happy with Max
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>>123607915
I have different numbers saved on different browsers/computers.

>>123608227
She said the phase was just a boy-toy one though, doesn't necessarily mean she doesn't still have sex with guys. I wonder if she would have confirmed that or just said she uses it for something else, because it's unlikely she would still be carrying those around from all the way back then. They're also different brands, so it's not like those are just leftovers from the package.
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>>123608738
>ywn observe Chloe's bored impression as you thrust into her
>ywn watch her close her eyes and try to get into it
>ywn hear her moan Max's name as she cums
>ywn see her turn red as she realises what she moaned and hear her apologise
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>>123608956
>>123608227
the 'What are these?' comment was about her boots, it was a reference to that shitty meme. No one understood it so they cut it.
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>>123608792
A bit of a cliche answer at the moment, but Undertale is pretty good ... if certain conditions are met.
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>>123609856
I don't think she would be sleeping around anymore. She seemed pretty set her thing with Rachel, or trying to get one going, and got angry when she found out Rachel was sleeping with Frank. I get Chloe didn't really like Frank, but if Rachel really was here friend then she wouldn't need to lie to her...unless she was hiding that she was with him because it would be cheating on Chloe.
Plus, from what she says throughout the game it seems like she's pretty much done with boys and only cares for Rachel and Max.
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>>123610007
I wouldn't mind if she pretended I'm Max when I go down on her
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>>123609856

Pretty much any modern school will have free condom handouts from an assorted container. Given what Chloe's character is like, I feel her boy-toy phase was when she tried to find happiness by being intimate with some guys. When we rekindle with her, she definitely seems more solitary, and constantly speaks down towards males.
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>>123609856
>They're also different brands, so it's not like those are just leftovers from the package.

Your reasoning makes no sense. It's more unlikely to have 2 single different brand condoms lying around if you frequently used them, instead of one opened package.
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>>123610291
I wouldn't mind either, but I'd rather the two of them were together. I think I'd just feel a bit sad taking Max's place, even if Chloe is gorgeous.
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>>123609856
She could have gotten different brands and been given some while she was still at Blackwell. Tons of schools have condoms in the nurse's office or have people give them out on occasion. I really could not see her having sex more than once or twice before deciding it didn't make her feel any better.
Hell, I have a few of a different condoms and I've never had sex. I don't keep them in my wallet though.
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>>123610663
>this autistic post you typed out
>tfw Katebros will never be this pathetic

feels good man. we're easily the best LiS fanbase
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>>123610663
Lmao bro. I hope you know I'm a Katefag and I'm just laughing at you every thread. Don't forget to ask me to shut up retard. Good attempts either way.
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>>123610869
agreed
inb4 multiple people
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>>123611262
lel the reddit cancer exposed himself
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>>123611696
You need new tactics, shitposter. This just isn't working. Look it up.
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>>123609734
Based
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>>123610170

What meme?
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>>123611901
Shut up retard. But no really, keep going. You're hilarious.
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>this mentally ill kate autist sperging hard yet again

thank you for making him angry
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KATE
ATEK
TEKA
EKAT
KATE
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>>123612674
VICKY
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>>123612778
YES
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>>123612778
CHLOE
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What even is this little war raging on? Can't we all just get along?
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>>123612835
She forgives you, anon.
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>>123612972
Are you new?
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>>123610256
>She seemed pretty set her thing with Rachel, or trying to get one going, and got angry when she found out Rachel was sleeping with Frank
Didn't she mention to Max pretty nonchalantly that Rachel had something going with some guy? I think she was more upset that she realized she was going with Frank right under her nose and seemed serious about it to boot than that she was sleeping with a guy in the first place.

Rachel's letter to Chloe seemed to be more her acknowledging that Chloe wouldn't approve of Frank really, at least I didn't get the vibe of a lover apologizing she was cheating at all. Rachel sure didn't sound apologetic about it at least.

>>123610567
>>123610745
The whale one does look like a free handout now that that I think about it. I really don't think she would be carrying around leftover condoms all that time though, at least not on her wallet. If they were in a drawer or something I wouldn't think twice about it, but on the wallet...

We should also keep in mind that those were put there by the devs with a specific intent in mind, because they wanted to portray something specific about Chloe. So going with far-fetched explanations like she did it to play around (something that is usually brought up on this topic) or just forgot to take them out would be a bit disingenuous.

>>123610698
No because if they have a high turnover rate you're more likely to stock on them or get different types because you know they'll be used before they expire.
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If Nathan is behind this shit, there will be hell to pay
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To the TRICKY LE VICKY spammer, try again dumbfuck.

This is boring. Come up with something new. Meanwhile, I'll keep Kateposting. So hurry the fuck up.
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>>123613193

No I just always skim past this shit or pop in after half the posts have been deleted, but ignoring it doesn't seem to be making it go away.
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>>123613989
The tricky le vicky poster hasn't been here in like a month. What are you going on about?
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>>123613805

What am I looking at and what does it have to do with Nathan?
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>>123613413
Can you stop talking about this dumb shit already?
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>>123614207
Nice response. I guess it's just you shitposting then.
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About Chloe's sexual past: I could see her sleeping with Justin.
Did it while high, or because she wanted to feel some type of love. But nothing ever really came of it. They had some type of friendship so they agreed not to mention it again.
He seems to be the only person in Blackwell that Chloe hung out with and wanted to talk to when she went back there with Max.
She may have thought about sleeping with Nathan to try to get money, but those thoughts would have gone away pretty quickly once she realized how insane he was.
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>>123614225
This is a STALKER screenshot. I have no idea how it corresponds to Nathan...
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>>123613368
Be nice anon.
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>>123613413
>Rachel's letter to Chloe seemed to be more her acknowledging that Chloe wouldn't approve of Frank
The letter was about Jefferson. Dev confirmed it.
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>>123614307
>but those thoughts would have gone away pretty quickly once she realized how insane he was.
I don't think she ever realised that until they found his expunged file in ep3. Even at the end of ep1, when she assumes he's a rapist and he just attacked her with a gun, she talks about him like he's just a shitstain rather than completely unhinged.
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It's been over a month, boys! It's really over! After all this time and all these discussions we've had! At least the sales were really good...

SEASON TWO WHEN?!?
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>>123614757
When you die!
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>>123614254
Should we just shitpost about Kate and Victoria then? Introduce a more interesting subject if you don't like the current one.
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>>123614307
I believe you about Justin.
They made it seem like she was sleeping for money when I first heard it in-game, but I believe she was waiting for Nathan to pass out to take his wallet and credit card.
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>>123615125
>I believe she was waiting for Nathan to pass out to take his wallet and credit card
She was, but who knows what she'd be willing to do if things progressed. You can only play coy so long before you either go for it or get out of there.
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>>123614434
True, forgot about that.

>>123614307
Justin couldn't even remember Chloe's name though. I think she was just tagging along with Rachel.
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>>123615114
Maybe we could shitpost about Kate and Victoria doing cute things?
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REMINDER THAT ALL OF THIS BICKERING IS POINTLESS BECAUSE MAX SAVING CHLOE IS CANON, MAX AND CHLOE LOVING EACHOTHER IS CANON, MAX AND CHLOE NEVER GROWING TIRED OF EACHOTHERS BODIES AND DYING OLD IN EACHOTHERS ARMS IN CANON

:)
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>>123615114
>Should we just shitpost about Kate and Victoria then?

Yes.
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>>123615463
Justin not remembering Chloe's name in Episode 1 was kind of weird considering he seems to be one of the only other students at Blackwell she was friendly with based on what we see in EP2 and EP4. Maybe they had him refer to her as the "blue-haired" girl for the purposes of keeping Chloe's identity a secret until the parking lot scene.
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>>123615745
She was friendly because they did hang out before, along with the rest of the skaters. I don't think it would have been any different if it was Trevor instead of Justin. AFAIR there's no romantic undertones the time when they met up.
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>>123615546
I don't disagree with any of that. I was just speculating on what Chloe did while she was trying to fill her need for actual love through vices like meaningless sex, drinking, drugs, etc.
Joyce wasn't wrong when she said Max would be a good influence on Chloe. Max is what Chloe needs: someone to love, that loves her back, that will be honest with her, and balance out her rashness/ impulsiveness.
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>>123615546
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>>123616684
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>>123615463
>Justin couldn't even remember Chloe's name though.
In ep4, Max infers that he's got a crush on her, and we can eavesdrop on him talking to Chloe about how they should hang out more.
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>>123616430
my heart... why are they so perfect for eachother?
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>>123617035

Well, that's because it's true.
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>>123616430
>Joyce wasn't wrong when she said Max would be a good influence on Chloe. Max is what Chloe needs

>"Thanks for covering for me and giving my daughter the unconditional love she desperately needed, Max. That one kinda got away from me."
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>>123617470
Fuck off.
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>>123617286
Because the whole time they were apart they were thinking of each other. And when they reunited they realized how crappy life was when they were apart and didn't want to make the same mistake of being apart again.

>>123617470
I think Joyce knows she messed up, but she doesn't want to admit it. She got over William in her own way, by finding love in David. And then made the mistake of thinking that Chloe would be similar and get over it in the same amount of time. And I can't blame Chloe for not. She lost her father, who she was very close to, and her best friend within a short period of time. Then her mother brought home someone she clearly disliked and who brought his own mental issues to the potluck of existing ones in the Price house.
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>>123617464
Ah, Warren. He really wants to put the R into Ape.
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>>123617464
Come on man, Max wasn't even looking at him when she handled him the drive, so she couldn't know he was going to the hug. That was like a deliberate move to friendzone him at all.

Everything else is she just fretting out about being awkward and not know how to react. Just like the Everyday Heroes contest, the more she wants something the more she denies and avoids it. She's just like that.

You guys are delusional. You take very clear signs that she's into Warren bad and twist it around becuse you don't even know Max and how she reacts to everything. So sad really.
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wew

some next level shitposting in here
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>>123619753
>Bestboibestcouple.jpg

Who's the boy in that pic?
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>>123619753
i was thinking more vicky and kate posting desu senpai
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>>123619753
Warrencυck please. We've been through this.
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>>123619815
Haha very funny. Not!
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>>123620056
I'm being serious, lad.
Did you not see that scene in ep4?
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>>123615546
no way max has boobs that perky
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>>123620056
>I have the biggest crush on warren ... Why can't boys be like that instead of jerks
>THE KISS WAS HOT, THE HUG WAS SO CUTE, THEY HUGGED EACHOTHER SO INTENSE
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the fact that warrencvck isn't on some sort of government watchlist at this point boggles the mind
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>>123620678
Use this 'υ' so you can type cυck
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>>123620646
>Yeah, I also saw the scene where Max let Chloe die so she could hang out with Warren and the rest of the gang. Pretty clear where her love lies.

I said episode 4, m8. Did you see it or not?
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>>123620735
How long till anhirohito clears the filters?
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>>123620839
Never desu
It's the hottest new meme to go to qa and make a thread demanding things though, so who knows.
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>>123620928
So many new boards though
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>>123620839
He's trying to create /news/ again so I'm guessing never. In his Q&A he answered that he's here for the old 4chan and old memes.

You can't link >>>/news/ yet but you can access it from url
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>>123620524
>THE KISS WAS HOT
Wat de fuk? 2 second kiss is hot? =kek
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>>123621045
>he's here for the old 4chan and old memes.
why
h
y
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>>123621150
He even said his favorite meme was the pedobear because it has history.
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>>123621252
but why is he trying to fuck with the site's culture
just leave it as it is
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>>123621150
4chan was at its highest point in 2004-2007. Best, classic memes. Anonymous was the feared last boss of the internet before Project Chanalogy turned us into granola idealists faggots and 4chan became known to the wider public. Fuck off newfag.
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>>123621449
out with the old, in with the new, faggot.
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>>123620646

>Max's subconscious is showing Warren being creepy

Gee, I wonder why.
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>>123621371
Well, lets just say he wants to make 4chan great again.
>>123621449
>complaining about newfags
>on /lisg/
Woah there.

Also, we really are turning into /ksg/ aren't we with all these off topic posts. Not that I'm complaining.
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>>123621757
>Well, lets just say he wants to make 4chan great again.
well fuck him, i'm a newfag and i think this place is fucking great
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>>123622017
Anyone oldfag enough here will be able to spot you newfags from a mile away. The only reason we're not complaining is because this is /lisg/.
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>>123622407
in order for this place to survive, you can't cling on to the past. moot's goal was always attracting more users
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>>123621756
You've never waited outside a girl's classroom so you could strike a convo with her? You didn't, protip you might be an autist.
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>>123623005
>refuse to assimilate
how so
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>>123622696

>Warrenshit doesn't know the difference between a dorm and a classroom
>Warrenshit doesn't notice Max is wearing what she sleeps in
>Warrenshit thinks there's nothing weird about stalking a girl that clearly has no sexual interest in you

Who are the autistic ones again?
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>>123623005
Crying cancer and oldfag lamentation has been around since the beginning. The truth is that quality fluctates and different boards peak at different times
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>>123625396
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>>123625396
>Barely Page 9
>bump
Why can't you just leave it to us and just lurk more?
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I much prefer the Sacrifice Chloe ending because I feel it deals with its respective choice and following consequences much better than Sacrifice Bay.
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>>123625945

The thread is moving too slowly for bait, anon.
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>>123625945
I much prefer to not settle for one of two shitty endings and disregard Episode 5 in its entirety as canonical.
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>>123625945
You could always just ask directly for the bait images anon. I'm sure someone would be nice enough to post them for you.
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wew janitors sure are active in this thread now aren't they
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>http://archiveofourown.org/works/5300945/chapters/12237653
Found a cute story where Kate dresses like a punk and gets concert tickets to impress Chloe.
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>>123628548
hah I remember this series, if Max, Chloe, Vicky and Kate all agreed to a four-person relationship
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>>123628735
Yeah they started the continuation. The second chapter has a slightly older story where the other three give Kate a kinky birthday surprise.
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>>123629220
>Warren as drums.
That should've been Chloe as drums and Warren putting people in their seats for the show.
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>>123625945

Sac Bay is a step above just turning the game off, it's basically just "fuck this plot I'm outta here". Sac Bae is for chumps like me who fool themselves into thinking there'll be more to it. And in true ep5 fashion are punished for their hope while Baefags don't even have to see a body.

It's "Abort the Story" vs "Destroy the Story."
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>>123629220
Wonder what kind of music they play
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Jesus, Max comes across as a cunt in this comic. It's been maybe a day since a ton of people died and she's whining about her parents (quite reasonably) wanting her to come home with them. Why does rowanred81 always have to write Max as this bratty snarky asshole?
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>>123630378
Why don't you sue them or something
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̖̱̰̯̤͖͇̟͔̺̦̩̣̗̖̤͒ͨ̓̀́̐̋E̖̫̗̞̹̳̭̱̲̘̻̖͚ͯ̉ͮ͒V͇̥͔͙̩͇̫̱̿̃̈́ͦ̄̐̃͊̍̂́̾̅̎I̙̯̤̞͙̺̬͔̰͚̹͙̘̊ͦ̿̏ͅL̠̥̪̩͈̮̠̜͈̻̙̟̣̎̍̂ͯͅ ͚̝̰̣̭͉͓͉̻̘̣̤̊̿ͥ̄ͮ̎̉̆̋̔ͭͅK̠̲̝̙̟̭̗͎̙̗͚̭͙͕̰̝̩͇̣ͦ͆̑ͫ͋ͫͧ̌͛̒̉̽ͨ̂̋͗͊͆A̩̻̩͚̳̼̣̞̰̎̋͐͛ͬͤṬ̯̮̳͔̥̰͎̩̿́́̾̿̔̐͋͛̅͌̉̎ͬ̚E ON XMAS
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>>123630378
Hahah yeah his Max is off somehow. I do like the idea of filling in her journal more
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>>123630495
HYPE
Y
P
E
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>>123623408
Get down from your fucking high horse man, he ain't gotta binoculars or anything so it's not like he can see her panties from there. He's not spying on her, he's just waiting for her to come out so he can talk to her casually.

By all we know he's looking at the door, just you pervs think he's looking into her window.
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>>123630495
Sure it is.
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>>123630495
Sure, Dementiaz. I'm sure something crazy will happen like a tornado hitting your living space and whisking away your tablet and it'll be delayed again.
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what power for season 2
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>>123631361
Shrinking and growing.
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>>123631397
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>>123631397
kys
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>>123631474
So rude!
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>>123631009

>D A M A G E C O N T R O L
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>>123630495
Sorry guy, but too little too late. Nobody cares about anymore, the wave's gone, LiS's disappointed us and so have you. All that's left is bitter hatred. I'm really sorry about this but it's true.
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>>123631504
it's fucking stupid. and it's a weird-ass fetish
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>>123631582
How about you kill yourself? Giantess anon has been in the general since early times.

>newfags coming in acting like they own the place
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>>123631582
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>>123631582
>>123631661
Rudeposting not allowed!
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>>123630619
>im so happy that my selfishness only killed the people I don't care about
This comic is literally stupid.
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>>123631661
but why. how is shrinking/growing sexy in any way at all. why is giantess fetish a thing.
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>>123631542
I know, Im just shitposting, Evil Kate wont happen
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>>123631680
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>>123631749
it's human nature
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>>123631769
It's not, it's just a meme. Some people like to pretend they have quirky unique fetishes so the make up stupid shit like this.
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>>123631749
Thank you for saying literally, otherwise I might have thought you meant figuratively the comic is stupid.
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>>123631859
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>>123631749
Max being selfless is what caused all this trouble in the first place. If she just worried about herself, and didn't show concern when she saw someone being shot, then nothing would have happened and she would have saved herself a week of trauma.
Remember that, kids. Just mind your own business and don't speak out/ help when someone is in trouble.
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>>123631749

>I'd value the possible lives of numerous strangers over the guaranteed life of a dear loved one

You're either lying or a psychopath. There is no middle ground.
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>>123631898
Hey there Redditor!
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>>123631837
Oh you don't say? Who would have guessed!

Literally nobody cares.
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Did anyone know if the guy updated that fanfic about nerdy blonde Chloe and popular punk Max? God that feisty Max is fucking perfect.
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>>123631749
Has anyone written a story where there are survivors but it turns out they're made up of people that the duo don't know or care about?
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>>123632071
>Le Reddit maymay XD
Upvoted!
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>>123629721
2015 AOTY's:
Max - Father John Misty
Chloe - Fools Rush or Wimps or some other low-circulation NW punk band
Vicky - Kendrick
Kate - Sokolov Salzburg Recital
Warren - Death Grips
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>>123632103
>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11580260/4/Opposites
This one? It got updated a few days ago.
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>>123632197
>Le ebin le meme rebuttal maymay
Upboated!
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>>123632072
I kind of do but I don't trust Dementiaz to get Evil Kate finished, let alone release it in time for Christmas.
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>>123632241
>Vicky - Kendrick
>Warren - Death Grips
they know what's up
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>>123632416
Last time, he said for entering December. No it's Christmas.
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>>123632325
this is way too meta guys
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>>123632595
I never said that
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>>123632736
DAMAGE

CONTROL
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>https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11441887/17/Black-Swan
While this story does kind of interest me I don't see how it could connect well with Life is Strange's main plot. It just seems too high concept with the government conspiracy and superpowered black ops team.
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>>123632736
I'm pretty damn certain you made multiple claims that you'd release Evil Kate (or at least portions of it) prior to Episode 5's release.
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>>123632939
Nobody cares.
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>>123633063
it's lis related
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>>123633129
It's a pointless post.
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>>123633038
Nah

>>123633129
Dont talk to the troll

>>123633063
Some people do, not me, but some people cares, so shut up
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>>123633297
Looks like you're upset from getting BTFO.
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Has anyone else literally never given a shit about evil Kate and entirely failed to understand why it's become a thing?
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>>123633354
It's just you, redditor.
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>>123633354
I quite like Evil Kate
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Product of my boredom.
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>>123633297
>https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/118549684/#q118584154
>Sat 10 Oct 2015
>The wait is nearly over (? Evil kate almost ready, final touches and tomorrow will be out
>Along with Queen Vicky
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here's my suggestions for how Warren could have been fixed as a character to make him at least slightly more appealing to Max

>make him taller
this shouldn't even need to be discussed
>make him less boyish with a deeper voice
come on he's 16 his balls must have dropped by then
>ditch the earnestness and obsessiveness
girls hate that in guys, they should have made Warren apathetic to Max at first only for them to possibly grow closer, that's the basis of a good romance from "Pride and Prejudice" onward, and also the exact way Chloe and Max's plot progressed
>give him any backstory whatsoever
what problems does he have in his life? Chloe has a whole long history of stuff and Warren has well nothing
>give him a singular identity
so he's a weird science nerd but he's also a talented artist? That doesn't really fit pick one or the other. Personally I think they should have given him a hobby unrelated to Max's photography or art in general so he seems more removed and unattainable
>give him random friends to hang out with
again this is so obvious it shouldn't need to be stated.
>involve him in the plot
he basically just exists to beat up Nathan once and is otherwise disposable, a confrontation they could have easily just cut out and nothing would have changed in the story.
>involve him with Chloe
Seeing as Chloe is the most important NPC in the game having them not interact almost at all really limits the character. I think if anything Warren should have known Chloe from living in Arcadia Bay all those years, and possibly have him replace that one guy Chloe talks to before they sneak into Nathan's dorm
>have him know about the plot/Max's powers early on
If you wanted people to care about him at all he probably should have at least known slightly what was going on so he can react and show emotion in any meaningful way
>cut that dumb chemistry "puzzle"
seriously that was just terrible
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>>123633935
See >>123633063
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>>123633347
BTFO? whats that? Im not upset at all mate

>>123633354
It became a thing because thread was all shitposting, shitposting, shitposting, renderfriend stuff, my stuff, shitposting and more shitposting

>>123633587
Awesome XD

>>123633623
So? Queen Vicky was posted
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>>123629721
It's slow and comfy... until Chloe has few to drink, breaks out an electric guitar, steals the mic, and starts screaming into it
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>>123634115
>So?

Stop lying, you piece of shit.
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>>123634115
BTFO stands for Blown The Fuck Out
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>>123633935
>to make him at least slightly more appealing to Max
But that defeats his entire purpose.
He should have been even LESS appealing, with Max's retarded optional reciprocation sidestepped altogether.
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>>123629220
>Vicky not hogging the spotlight on vocals

I love the band au idea but this is just not realistic
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>>123634115
>Queen Vicky was posted
It was. About two weeks after you made that post saying it would be released the following day.
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>>123634293
>He should have been even LESS appealing,

I'm not sure how that would even be possible
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>>123634168
Mmmm, whatever, i dont understand whats the point of telling me that

>>123634147
It was
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>>123629220
>Warren on drums, the 'animal' instrument
>Vic on keyboard, the 'lamest in the band' instrument
>Warren in a band at all

Chloe on drums, Vic on vocals, Warren as a roadie.
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>>123634554
Making him look like this.
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>>123634293
It's kind of hard to tell what Warren's purpose was. At times it feels like he was deliberately meant to come across as annoying and overbearing (but not necessarily a bad kid) while other times it seems like the developers genuinely thought he was a good romantic partner.
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>>123634450
So what? It was posted, its not like the requester needed asap that drawin
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>>123634869
I don't remember the link but one interview from earlier in the game's run had the devs talking about how they found it weird Warren was seen as creepy and unliked by some players. They said he was supposed to be funny, was some one of their favorite characters,and clearly likes Max. And Max would be able to return the feelings if the player wanted to.
I guess if they wanted that they should have let us interact with him more than a few minutes.
Even then I wouldn't pay much attention to him. PRICEFIELD FOR LIFE!
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>>123635606
You're one dense cunt.
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>>123635701
Yes, i should stop coming here, it was nice while it lasted lisg, bye :3
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>>123634869
He's life is strange's answer to Wesley Crusher. Basically an insert of the developers' younger selves who shows up and info dumps the (utterly moronic) answers to the heroes at the last minute, who are all suffering from plot induced stupidity.
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>>123635606
It's just kind of tiresome seeing you make wildly inaccurate estimates of when you'll post your drawings. If a drawing isn't going to be finished and you have no idea when it will be then just keep working on it at your own pace and don't draw attention to yourself. Even if you do release Evil Kate around Christmas the response will probably be underwhelming considering how long you've kept this little hype train going.

Also I was the requester for Queen Vicky.
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>>123634618
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>>123634115
>Im not upset at all mate
Suuure... We totally believe you.

>Dont talk to the troll
Says the confessed shitposter.
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>>123635639
Hello, young Max. Do you have a scarf I can borrow?
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>>123635774
Finally, good riddance. One shitposter less, 14 to go.
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>>123636663
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>>123637051
>le misunderstood geek
spare me
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>>123637514
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>>123637051
>says that to the person he wants to have sex with
>thinks it's okay to say that to anybody at all
What the fuck. I mean, I'm extremely socially awkward, but this is the new low even for me.
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Wowser
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There needs to be an edit of this.
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>>123578294
I personally think in that engine long hair would look horrible..
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>>123585595
>1955
>Meteor

I wish /o/ didn't give me autism
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>>123643262
>Meteor was a marque of automobiles offered by Ford in Canada from 1949 to 1976
>from 1949
What's the problem?
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>>123643402
I isn't Canada, for one?

A '49 Ford or '50-ish Olds 88 would've been more believable.
Okay that's just autistic nitpicking.
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>>123643658
>I isn't Canada, for one?
I'm not familiar with 50's American/Canadian laws, but couldn't you import cars?
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>>123635639
There was another interview where they talked about him embodying the awkward first crush dealing with rejection and shit.
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>>123633587
That's some weird font proportions, anon.
Is the game title PlayStation? Is it played on a Life is Strange console?
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>>123643725
You probably could, but why? Those were just regular Fords w/ fancy trim

Have an aesthetic Toyota
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What is this game ~really~ about?
I've been walking for a while and did nothing too much. I get it's time travel, but is there any actual plot with real story eventually? Or just slow drama with relaxing music?

I am walking to the parking lot with the flash drive atm.

Also, for a game about taking photos, everything is blurry and water colored muddle.
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>>123647040
>What is this game ~really~ about?
Learning to use your imagination:) and learning to cry for a shitty vidya
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>>123647137
Hour + of no actual story besides a kid bringing a gun to school is sort of extremely slow paced.
Does the plot get better maybe?
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>>123647227
No. You might as well just stop now.
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>>123647227
I think so, but keep in mind that ending doesn't answer a single question that pops in your mind. NOT A SINGLE ONE.
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>>123647227
You learn that there's a conspiracy going on behind the scenes that you learn at the end would have been resolved by the police if you did nothing in the bathroom. In other words the plot goes to shit in the finale.
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>>123647412
I told the Principal about the kid. I wanted to see what would happen well after the gun part, but the game wouldn't let me.

>>123647405
The ending route I chose is bad? Or do you mean 'episode 1' out of the five episodes.
I kind of want to push through a bit because I bought the full package.

>>123647393
Daaaaamn iiiiiit
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>>123647502
Telling the principal about the gun has a semi-positive effect in Episode 2's final choice but it really is pointless in the end. Episode 4 is the high point of the game and it actually looked like your actions were starting to have an impact. Episode 5 on the other hand does away with that completely and has only one consequential scenario that's handled in a pretty tasteless manner.
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>>123647659
So pretty much Episode 1 is setup for characters
2 and 3 are pointless
4 shows that your choices had an effect
5 is the end, but it went into a lame ending anyway.

Is that all correct?
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>>123647502
>buying the game you weren't familiar with
Are you cereal?
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>>123647709
1-4 are comfy-tier.
5 is shit, but you'll play it just for closure.
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>>123647709
Episode 1 is a setup. Episode 2 and 3 are a mix of slice-of-life, character development and deepening the mystery. Episode 4 is mostly focused on the mystery with a reasonable amount of character development thrown in. Episode 5 is a disjointed mess of a finale with an inexcusable amount of filler, dropped subplots, shoddy characterisation and a tone that feels like the writers went out of their way to be as edgy as possible.
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>>123647741
I'm not poor.
It's cheaper to buy them all at once if I -do- enjoy the game.
I like supporting games, especially ones that people told me had multiple choices that impact the game etc.

>>123647813
I'll try playing it more, but it's super slow paced at the moment. Got into Chloe's car.
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>>123647040
The plot progression is a bit weird in the game. It's a bit stop-and-start, and there are a few "plot-progression" scenes in the next few episodes that seemingly exist only to give you information you already know. Episodes 2 and 3 are more about character relations, world building, slice-of-life etc, so don't expect much on the plot-progression front (though Ep2 has its own short single-episode plot line).

A fair bit happens in the next few episodes, but I'd be hesitant to say it progresses the plot in any meaningful way. Pretty much all of the plot happens in Episode 4, then Episode 5 is about resolving the storm.
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>>123647841
>people told me had multiple choices that impact the game
You've been deceived.
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>>123647841
>people told me had multiple choices that impact the game
The worst part is this game really did have the potential to do as it advertised. It really was damn close to being one of the best adventure games this year.
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>>123647841
Well, I played it just to be a quirky hipster lesbian girl.
Wasn't disappointed.

The story is kinda weak, but still manages to suck you in by giving you the illusion of agency. And then there's ep 5.

Overall, it's not a bad game. It's just that dontnod didn't really know what they were doing with it, fluked on the first four episodes, in a very spectacular way I might add, and fucked up the fifth.
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>>123647873
People are awful liars. : (

>>123647813
That's a bit vague, but I get that 5 is 'bad' when endings are usually 'the best' part.
Shame

>>123647840
Thanks. Dropped subplots though? That's pretty lame when a story should be about development like that.

>>123647968
I wouldn't call it an adventure game.

>>123647986
How does this general survive when the people that use it all say the episodes were lame overall?


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Is it just appealing to be a hipster lesbian girl?
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>>123648087
>Is it just appealing to be a hipster lesbian girl?
Is it not?
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>>123648087
>people that use it all say the episodes were lame overall?
These people are in minority. Most regulars here were disappointed by the anti-climactic ending and dropped plotlines, but liked the overall atmosphere of episodes 1-3,5 (that last part of ep4 tho) and character development.
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>>123648087
>Dropped subplots though? That's pretty lame when a story should be about development like that.
To be clear, most of the posters here are exaggerating a bit here.

There are no dropped subplots. It's simply that there are some elements of the game which are left deliberately mysterious (not going to mention what, given that you seem to be new to the game), and there are some subplots that seemed fairly substantial during the game, but were wrapped up extremely simplistically in one or two lines of dialogue. The resolution of a lot of the subplots is just underwhelming. And in a few cases, the devs seem to have been somewhat misleading in how they've gone about "advertising" the game (eg. saying in interviews that some of the mysteries that are left deliberately unexplained would all make sense at the end).

I'm not sure if it will have such an effect on you though. For most of us, we've been following this for many months. We've been obsessing over small details here and there, coming up with all these elaborate fan theories about how everything works together ... and in the end, the actual outcome was very simplistic and kinda dumb. But if you're going to play it all together without waiting months between episodes, it's likely you you'll not catch all these smaller details, and it's unlikely that you'll obsess over everything as much as we did. So it's possible you won't be as disappointed in the finale.

We all sound bitter as hell, but I hope you can see past that a bit. Overall, we love the game. I think it's worth you playing through it. It's got it's fair share of problems - big problems in some cases - but I still think it's an awesome experience overall.
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>>123648153
>but liked the overall atmosphere of episodes 1-3,5 (that last part of ep4 tho)
Have feelings towards Ep4 changed in retrospect somewhat? My impression has been that it was, almost universally, considered the "best" episode. It's only after Ep5 that I'm now seeing people talk less highly of it ... maybe I just missed these people prior to Ep5?
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>>123648087
As a "game" I can't say it was anything too special. The aesthetic and atmosphere are nice, but ultimately the plot and format disappoints.

As an immersive, episodic character study, it's pretty outstanding. The characters and their relationships, how perfectly the game places gaps and silence in everything to authentically explore the depths of relatable everyday life, the mystery implication (and location as well as cute girls) giving it all a better taste, - as that it just made for a very enjoyable experience. Especially if you had weeks and months inbetween episodes to talk in-depth about interpretations, backgrounds, theories, experiences, choices, opinions etc. to really get engrossed in the LiS world, the sweet anticipation that comes with that. It's more than a game or a story, it's part of your life in some pathetic way and it's really hard to let go because why would you want to let go of such an enjoyable "part of your life"?

If I had only now discovered and marathoned the game, especially with how Episode 5 turned out, I don't know. I can see it being a decidedly more easily forgettable experience then. That said, slow pace is lovely; if you don't like that why would you buy an episodic, dialogue-heavy point-and-click title?
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>>123648591
>There are no dropped subplots.
Don't start with this shit.

>>123648686
Episode 4 was the first one to have cut lines related to possible subplots, so it's safe to assume that developers began discarding them even before the work on episode 5 had begun. Its ending also destroyed the comfy atmosphere of the first three episodes.
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>>123648591
>but were wrapped up extremely simplistically in one or two lines of dialogue.
I'm sorry but I can not buy into this idea that those were merely red herrings. Nathan's cut/trailer dialogue references the storm explicitly when he supposedly has no knowledge of it. That suggests that Dontnod either had different plans for the storm earlier on or they're complete fucking idiots who have no idea how red herrings are supposed to work. You don't invent a more intriguing subplot just to mislead people who look through the game files.
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>>123648591
>there are no dropped subplots

What are the Prescotts
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>>123647502
>The ending route I chose is bad?
Your choices don't matter. Best just rip that bandaid off now. The end is determined by a "choose ending a or b" decision directly beforehand and none of your previous choices factor in whatsoever - not at all for the endings, and barely superficially in the entire final episode.

There is a lot of passion surrounding this game so it'll be hard to get contextual replies without playing it. It's a slow start, then it reels you in and captures your heart and imagination, then it takes a wet shart in your face and runs off hooting like Daffy Duck.
Just play it all, might as well. Ep1-4 have enough interesting bits to be worth playing for the small time/money investment considering you already bought it, and ep5 is terrible in a lot of interesting ways.
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Wowser Maxine can be created on Blade & Soul
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>>123649058
What's up with the bacon?
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>>123648994
Choices don't matter at all besides some dickhead running up to you and yelling at you or "man my album is wet!" and "I'm sad you broke the snowglobe".
So it all just is a single story narrative that leads to >>123647741 ?

That's sort of sad.
There are so many butterflies that 'change the story' too.
'Remember Me' was more interactive and fun with time travel (or memory traveling).
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>>123620056

>kissed Warren

>given 2 friendzone option implying friendzone him canon

>still it was 2 second kiss

>didn't mentioned him as Love route like Chloe even game's files

>followed his(player) own feelings

>didn't follow Max's true feelings

>even her mind is still saying Chloe

c.uck pls
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>>123648087
>How does this general survive when the people that use it all say the episodes were lame overall?
Because we fell in love with it over its 10 month release and many of us engaged with it on a level we'd never engaged with media before, dissecting characters and solving mysteries. Then it took a shit on everything it created in the finale and now we're all left with a rage that no one else can understand but each other, so we stay here and discuss it. Sometimes looking at the previous episodes in a more negative light now that we know where it ends up, sometimes simply expressing small grievances we've always had but didn't feel welcome/justified in sharing before the shitty finale.
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>>123649157
>taking the 8 hours old bait
This is why we can't have nice things.
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>>123647040

Before Episode 5's release:
>Lol Mari's theories're shitty.It's way more than shitty to become true
>Chloe has to die thing doesn't make sense.Don't worry they will come with unpredictable story
>We're gonna learn everything about Max's powers,Rachel and Prescotts even Nathan,spirit animals..
>Jefferson knows about Max's powers
>Nathan,Frank,David or Samuel's gonna save us
>Victoria's with Max,she'll save her
>(After seeing Cemetery scene from leaks) I'm sure it'll be Williams,Rachel's or Kate's grave.
>Rachel's the doe and Butterfly and probably we'll see her in Max's dream
>Blue Jay's Chloe

After Episode 5's release:
>Mari's shitty cliche theory became right
>We visited the SF art gallery for 3 seconds. FOR 3 DAMN SECONDS
>Jefferson became a silly bad guy from Disney
>David came to save us.He's a former-soldier but he can't even fight,just listens teenager's orders. Even he doesn't know she has some time travel powers.
>Victoria's with us in the dark room.Laying there and we can talk her or not.Just it.
>Nathan get killed,Victoria too
>Nathan knew something about the storm but they cut it.
>Warren explained Max's powers(!) (thanks warryn) We found out her power causes/related with Chaos Theory and storm.It's not like we didn't know or something.
>Storm is only coming for Bay because Chloe lives in there but Max's the one who keep changes the time
>Prescotts story erased.Nobody even mention their name.
>Rachel's story fucked too.She isn't doe,or butterfly,bluejay or even shit.
>Spirit animals thing died.Blue Butterfly's Chloe just it.
>Chloe dies again in one of endings (unpredictable) It gives you a lesson: You shouldn't have used your power.And you shouldn't play this game.Now erase your choices and cry like a bitch.
>Chloe has to die thing comes true, Cemetery scene explained with that.
>The other ending's short but it's less cliché than other.We saved Chloe,storm's hit the town and gone.That's it.
>Epilogue: Use ur imaginations:)muh budget
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>>123648591
>But if you're going to play it all together without waiting months between episodes, it's likely you you'll not catch all these smaller details,
I don't know about catching details, but pretty much every person who's come here after just blitzing it has said there is a noticeable drop in quality come ep 5.
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>>123648686
I still stand by Episode 4 being the best of them. It's the most tightly-paced, shows Max and Chloe at their most competent during the investigation, has some good character moments and balances the comfy with the sad. It only looks retroactively worse because it had the unfortunate duty of setting up the stupidity in Episode 5.
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>>123648686

While overall hailed as the best, people have criticised how ep4 ended ever since it was released. But yeah people were generally a bit more forgiving when we thought it might stick the landing.
As is, the last leg of ep4 stands out as where things really started going wrong for the series as a whole considering there significant changes and sudden lack of logic.
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>>123648792
>>123648946
There are no dropped subplots. This is almost an undeniable fact at this point.

The only question that remains open is Nathan's cut lines about the storm. But it's not at all clear what their context actually is.

>Episode 4 was the first one to have cut lines related to possible subplots
You're talking about two or three lines that never appeared in the game (out of, what, hundreds of cut lines across all the episodes?). Cut lines of which we have no context. Which may have existed only for the trailer; or may have even been included simply to spur on fan theories. Hell, we already know of other lines that were added into the game files specifically for the people data hunting, and we know of silly joke lines they recorded for fun (eg. Max's 4th wall breaking joke about code puzzles if you fail the code 50 times in Ep5). Just because something exists in the game files (or even the *game*, see the last example), it doesn't mean we should take it as canon.

It MIGHT be indicative of something cut. But pretty much all information we have on hand makes this mere speculation. Speculation that doesn't really make sense given everything we know about the game's design/plot in retrospect.

Just drop this point. We're not going to learn anything new about it until the devs finally explain what the context of the lines are. Until then, we've got nothing.

>>123648993
>What are the Prescotts
This was fully explained in the game. It was just a let down, not a dropped plot.

The Prescotts are just a dickish rich family. Nathan's father is an asshole, and wants Nathan to follow in his footsteps working in the family business. Nathan has obvious problems that his family are not helping him with. That's about it. Nathan has a very spoiled attitude AND problems, which makes him dangerous. Somewhere along the lines he gets involved with Jefferson and they conspire together on the dark room stuff (funded, ridiculously, but Nathan's father).
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>>123648591
>There are no dropped subplots

>Cut audios about Nathan
>Prescott's story
>Poor Rachel Amber

Michel gtfo pls
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>>123649405
>Which may have existed only for the trailer
>Thinking it's okay to put red herrings in the trailer
I'd advise you to take up writing lessons; this kind of idiotic move should not be tolerated in game development.
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>>123649141
>So it all just is a single story narrative that leads to >>123647741 # ?
Exactly.
Now imagine finding that out without warning after 10 months of hype.
You're welcome.
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>>123649440
>There are no dropped subplots
Sigh.

>Cut audios about Nathan
The last genuinely interesting unknown. But until we get further context from the devs, there's not much to discuss. It's interesting, but hard to draw such massive conspiracy theory-esque conclusions from this alone.

>Prescott's story
Nothing to discuss, it was covered in the game. The resolution was shit, but it WAS resolved.

>Poor Rachel Amber
Yep, poor Rachel. That's about it.
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>>123649405
NOBODY TAKE THE BAIT, HE DOES THIS ALL THE TIME, JUST IGNORE HIM
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>>123649404
For me the real warning sign was Episode 3. It was by far the most poorly paced episode of the original 4 and the focus ability turned out to be one of the game's biggest missteps. Even before Episode 4 was released I was almost certain that the alternate timeline would only be glanced over and it had way too much potential for retcon abuse.
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>>123649297
Okay then, what actually is the mystery?
"Where is Rachel?"
Right? The whole 5 eps are about that?

>>123649520
pffft
I didn't get the buildup and I was spoiled a bit through everyone's replies to me (no big deal if the story is good).
That's just hilarious. Totally needs some fanfiction or something to even make staying here worth it.

Thanks guys for the help.
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>>123649591

I felt the same, but god damn it, episode 4 sucked me right back in.
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>>123649517
>Thinking it's okay to put red herrings in the trailer
Where did I say this? I don't think it's ok. But it wouldn't be the first example - there are other bits of seemingly-deliberately-misleading dialogue in the Ep4 trailer as well.

I'm not saying it's OK. I'm saying that we don't know that this isn't what they did. Given that we have other examples of somewhat misleading things placed in the trailers; we have examples of dialogue hidden in the game files never intended for use in the game; we have examples of dialogue used in the game that isn't supposed to be canon ... how can we draw any solid conclusions about ~2 cut lines of dialogue with no context? Especially when the conclusions we're trying to draw are conspiracy theories which don't make a lot of sense given what we know about the game's development?

>>123649574
Cute.
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>>123649624
>Where is Rachel?"
>Right? The whole 5 eps are about that?

>he thinks Rachel will matter in ep5
>laughinggirls.jpg
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>>123647741
>Multiple endings depending on your choices you made

What we've got:

-Your choices will be completely erase in Bay ending.Max's powers didn't explain(they gave this chance(!) to that fucking kek) .Max's powers cause to the storm but Chloe has to die for some reasons.

-Your some of choices will be remain in Bae ending and only our imagination Lord knows other people managed to survive but who fucking cares they left to fucking town.
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>>123649690
Then what's the plot?
Just big tornado?

Is it Walpurgis Night?
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>>123649740
>Your some of choices will be remain in Bae ending
STOP
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>>123649758
>Just big tornado?
Literally just that.
And it's truly a thing of beauty how they even manage to fuck that up.
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>>123648591
>>123649550
>>123649768

>same baits

>same shit-eater

>same arguments
come on dude you could do better than this.
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>>123649682
The lines aren't just misleading. There is no logical context for Nathan to start ranting about a coming storm and everyone being killed if he's unaware of the fact that there really is a tornado coming. They're not metaphors, there's no room for interpretation. Those lines unambiguously confirmed that Nathan had some awareness of what would take place on the Friday. This isn't like them hiding Chloe's presence in the trailer. This is either a dropped subplot or an egregious fucking lie. Either way that is not how a red herring works.
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>>123649768
Turn off your fucking caps lock key and yeah some of your choices will be remain in Bae ending wtf is wrong with that? blame Michel for it not me
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>>123648686
The end game of that episode is what confirmed all my doubts and fears, so there's a grudge there by association. Overall the episode is pretty great still from a game and story perspective alike, but even then quite a bit of untapped potential I think. For one thing, and you mentioned this one or two threads ago, the emotionality of what has been building up as well as just now happened comes short and gives the episode a kind of sloppy and forced feel from the get-go.

I mean, Max and Chloe and their relationship is at the core of what the game deals with, and Max comes back from that AU inmidst a storm of emotions (and first true realization of just how much they mean to each other - literally the most important thing in the universe for Max, or so her choice to go back has to be understood); this is the setup for one of THE most crucial scenes in the game, but then they don't really go anywhere with it and Max clicks back into her inexplicable indifferent normalcy almost immediately, strategizing around banaly - "Were you messing around with time again?"... "Hehe, I better not let show that I just had the most profound moment of my life and literally destroyed a universe for this person, that might get uncomfortable."
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>>123650017
>needing caps lock for a four letter word
Is your shift key broken?
And this is old bait, you know exactly what you're doing and you insert it into posts with absolutely no reason all the fucking time trynna start shit.
So again.
STOP.
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>>123650017
It still means fuck all. None of the choices you made with Chloe (the handicapped fund, Frank's potential death) has any impact on the ending and everyone else you interacted with may well be dead. Even if some of them survived your interactions with them are still going to be meaningless after their lives were damaged by the storm and Max ditched the town.
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>>123645139
No. You see, PlayStation 1 games (in PAL regions) have the PlayStation logo at the bottom. Thus, no matter how horrific font proportions are, it should be immediately obvious that it's played on the PlayStation console.
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>>123650094
>Thinking it's bait

I'm showing my fucking hate.BECAUSE BOTH ENDINGS ARE SHIT AND SOME OF YOUR SHITTY CHOICES MATTERS IF YOU COMPARE WITH THE OTHER. WTF IS WRONG WITH THAT?

>>123650120
Stop whining and blame Michel for it.
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>>123649861
>The lines aren't just misleading. There is no logical context for Nathan to start ranting about a coming storm and everyone being killed if he's unaware of the fact that there really is a tornado coming.
I agree. Which is why it's so confusing given everything we know about the game's development in retrospect. Because it's extremely unlikely that anything on this level of significance was altered in the story by the time these lines were recorded. The idea that they altered significant portions of the final episode - despite not altering any of the scene locations (which we've known for months) in any meaningful way - when it took them several weeks of delay just to add in the optional Ep4 Kate scene? Or after they've been open in saying that they ran out of time and would have liked to add more to the Bae ending cinematic?

It just doesn't make any sense.

But there are a few other possibilities. We know they had a few other nightmare scenes planned at various points. Given that these exist in Max's head, it's reasonable to suggest this line might have been intended for this. And there is always the "just for the trailer" possibility too.

But, like I said, we just don't know. We need context.

>Either way that is not how a red herring works.
Again, I didn't suggest that it's a red herring. I simply suggested that we don't know what the line's purpose was.
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>>123650474
>But, like I said, we just don't know. We need context.
And we're likely never going to receive that context from Dontnod. They'll probably just keep flip-flopping over the meaning of those lines and toot their own trumpet about how clever they are. So I think I'll stick to those "conspiracy theories". Dontnod has done nothing to earn the benefit of the doubt.
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>>123650625
>And we're likely never going to receive that context from Dontnod.
We might, eventually, sometime down the line. Hopefully.
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>>123650278
You mean Sony(r) wants people to know that they're playing a PlayStation(r) game on the PlayStation(r) console?

I still think LiS font is ugly and too small. The hell is this, Resident Evil?
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>>123649682
Between Nathan's cut lines, Sean's stuff about an "Arcadia enema", pan estates and his strange demand to have the party take place as well as bunker funding and the general idea that "the Prescotts are evil", I find it hard to see how you can call it leading to nothing not being a dropped subplot. Even if we accept they never wanted it to have to do anything with the spirits, visions, time travel, atmospheric phenomena and other magic and just call it a "very misleading and badly handled red herring", it still is very much a subplot that was building but then left a construction site. What is this enema, what is Nathan's "destiny", why does everybody think the Prescotts are evil, why is Sean so interested in that party taking place, what is with the Prescott history, the bunkers and his note to David? Even if we believe they never had anything to do with any of what the game deals with, even if they never intended to go anywhere with it, it's still "dropped". The conclusion that it doesn't have to do with the storm doesn't resolve that subplot.

I mean, if you argue "dropped" means strictly that they at some point decided to write it out I'd be more inclined to agree that this stuff wasn't necessarily "dropped" (and I guess you do but I won't delete this post now that I typed it), but even then I find it hard to see that they really never thought about what all that stuff means - they just decided not to tell us and I'm not sure they never intended to tell us. Maybe they did plan to reveal more about Sean. I mean, Nathan says "my father is coming!" and so at least it's possible there was some plan there that they then just realized in working on the final episode was not feasible.
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>>123650375
>I'm showing my fucking hate.
Go all the way or stfu. They are equally terrible. Choices matter in neither. Stfu or accept it. Stop saying they matter a little in one. They don't. How many fucking times, anon? How many times do we have to go through this?
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>>123650837
The Dark Room conspiracy feels a whole lot less believable without Sean's direct involvement. Before Episode 5 I figured that Nathan's status as an accomplice was due to his father's nepotism (or the family "legacy") making him overlook the fact that Nathan's incompetence. However we discover that Jefferson tolerated Nathan even though he was a huge liability and Jefferson was implied to have kidnapped girls before Arcadia Bay. Not to mention there's the absurd costs of the equipment in the Dark Room. It doesn't matter how rich the Prescotts are or how spoiled Nathan is. There is no way Sean would be willing to have his family bunker renovated and expensive cameras purchased just to help with something as trivial as Nathan getting photography tutorship.
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>>123651393
Look anon we're the same team.We're arguing because of that son of a bitch Michel.But you should agree SOME OF THEM (even just two choices) were matter in that ending even endings are shit.If you agree, i'm not gonna talk about it anymore i promise, but just accept the truth.
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>>123651561
NO
STOP
IM NOT GOING THROUGH THIS AGAIN
YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOURE DOING
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>>123651490
Yeah, he sank in what, 1.5 mill for the bunker alone? For Nathan? When the bunkers are strange to begin with. Oregon gets no severe storms, there's no war (and wasn't when they began). Why all the bunkers? Why a 1.5 million dollar bunker?
At some point I thought the bunkers, pan estates, all this was Sean's plan to rescue the Arcadians from the giant storm his family has a history of having visions of (that's how Nathan could have known).
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>>123651594
CALM THE FUCK DOWN ANON
I KNOW YOU'RE ANGRY
THEY WANT US TO FIGHT AND HATE EACH OTHER
BUT WE WONT!!
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>>123650837
>Between Nathan's cut lines, Sean's stuff about an "Arcadia enema", pan estates and his strange demand to have the party take place as well as bunker funding and the general idea that "the Prescotts are evil", I find it hard to see how you can call it leading to nothing not being a dropped subplot.
Because it's pretty obvious that the Prescott's stuff WAS just a red herring. In much the same way that the Vortex Club stuff was built up a lot, but ultimately played no role in anything.

The "Arcadia enema" was the completion of Pan Estates, further fucking with the land value of Arcadia Bay, strengthening the Prescott's hold on the town. Nathan's "destiny" was continuing on in his fathers footsteps running the business ... hindered, of course, by Nathan's mental state, which his father approached in a really shitty way. It seems like Sean Prescott's approach to controlling Nathan's outbursts was to try to continue to spoil him - hence his note talking about indulging him of his hobbies/extra-curricular activities (all the photography equipment, the parties, etc).

And so on.

All of this makes sense given everything we're told about the Prescotts. The developers obviously intended us to think they might have some involvement in the supernatural stuff - and I totally agree that it sucks that this was seemingly just a poorly constructed red herring - but there's nothing here that should explicitly lead us to suspect that they made sweeping changes following this. Nathan's cut lines about the storm ARE interesting, and I'd love to know more about the dev's intentions. But otherwise, the accusations about the cut content with regards to the Prescott's seems to be based more on wishful thinking than anything.

1/2
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>>123650837
>>123651802

>... and so at least it's possible there was some plan there that they then just realized in working on the final episode was not feasible.
But that's the thing - I'm not sure that it is. Given that we have some rough idea of how long it took them to implement Kate's short, optional scene in Ep4 (a few weeks), it just doesn't fit that they could have changed significant parts of Ep5 in such short notice. Especially given the amount of polish Ep5 had in comparison to the others (lip-synch + improved lighting/effects).

Given that the more suspicious Prescott stuff was introduced in letters in Ep4 (the stuff talking about Nathan's destiny, the Arcadia enema, etc), they could have easily covered a lot of their tracks by simply removing these few bits of optional material. This seemingly puts a bit of a timeline on when these "changes" might have been made. If it was prior to Ep4, they probably would have removed/altered these letters, right? But if it was after, given what we know about the development cycle, there is no way in hell they'd be able to actually change that much content.

All of this just seems so unlikely to me.

2/2
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>>123651658
1.3 million, though it almost certainly wasn't purchased for Nathan. However renovating it into a photography studio with ridiculously expensive camera equipment and a surveillance system is still nonsensical. I can believe that Nathan would be spoiled with a flashy car or cool electronics, but I can't believe for even a minute that his dad (who threatens to make him take an office job) would be willing to throw so much cash around for high school projects. Why not just send him off to an even fancier boarding school for the gifted instead?
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>>123651658
>Why all the bunkers
That's the 1.5 million dollar question, anon.
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>>123609130

I cried to to the moon, not life is strange tho. Wow what a community lol everyone is so nice
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>>123651802
>but there's nothing here that should explicitly lead us to suspect that they made sweeping changes
Nothing explictly, and no "sweeping" changes, but maybe at least a few more key hints that actually help resolve this subplot? Again, they could have done that without linking to any mysterious stuff and just have it be as banal as you laid out there (although there's still some pretty questionable stuff there that can't be explained away as easily I think - the disparity of indulging in your son's extracurricular activities and building a million dollar bunker for example).

>>123651864
>If it was prior to Ep4, they probably would have removed/altered these letters, right? But if it was after, given what we know about the development cycle, there is no way in hell they'd be able to actually change that much content.
Your argument is of course pretty solid, and I'd agree that it's very unlikely they had some big Prescott reveal/involvement planned, but it is obvious to me that all the connections that can be made wouldn't just go past a team of writers/devs; the bluntness of all that just being mystery bait is too tasteless for how the game is otherwise constructed. I just can't help but think there was a bigger purpose there that then was just left completely open so that people would even after the finale go on wondering, when initially maybe they did plan to deliver at least a more conclusive end to that (another text/letter/voice message from Sean would have been enough to try and do that).

>>123651876
> though it almost certainly wasn't purchased for Nathan.
To go with >>123652265: For what then? Sean apparently hasn't ever been there, and isn't expected to ever do either (otherwise Jefferson wouldn't have set up a rape bunker down there, obviously), so what's it for?
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>>123652480
>For what then?
For the possible event of a disaster. It may not be likely but the Prescotts supposedly had a history of bomb shelters and maybe Sean just figured he'd follow the family tradition as an insurance policy. I'm guessing he lent it to Nathan and Jefferson, thinking it was for a harmless project. Sean paying for all the equipment is pretty crazy to begin with but him actually setting up a massive million dollar bunker for his teenage son is fucking ludicrous.
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>>123609130
>Fake cry

>Their mom's actually cutting onion in the background

>Set their videos name as ''TEARS!! I'M CRYING''

Fucking LPers.
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>>123651709
I will physically fight you if you keep saying that choices matter in the Bae ending.
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>>123652835
Okay.
Choices(at least one/two choices) matter in the Bae ending.But you still don't understand that it doesn't fucking mean that i'm supporting endings or that son of a bitch. Agree with it anon, also they're not gonna make alternate endings.We have to agree with it.
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>>123651709
>THEY WANT US TO FIGHT AND HATE EACH OTHER
Then stop looking for positives in the bae ending. I don't care if it doesn't retcon the story or if the game was all about protecting Chloe. It's still an utter disgrace and the game deserved better than that.
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>>123653035
Still I DON'T FUCKING SUPPORT ENDINGS OR I DON'T SUPPORT BAE ENDING FOR OUR CHOICES MATTER.I'm just saying yeah some of them matters but who fucking cares, but it doesn't change the fact that endings are shit.
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>>123654046
What the fuck is up with their irises?
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>>123654324
Tumblr of course.
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>>123652759
>For the possible event of a disaster. It may not be likely but the Prescotts supposedly had a history of bomb shelters and maybe Sean just figured he'd follow the family tradition as an insurance policy.
The thing is, a disaster as severe as needing a million dollar bunker and emergency provisions is so unlikely that sinking in those million bucks at all is ridiculous. And the other that having a history of building bunkers there is puzzling to begin with. I mean I guess the first world war was going on roughly around the time the documents allude to, but there were no atom bombs, Oregon wouldn't exactly be a place of interest for bombings to begin with and then they apparently kept their bunker "business" up when there's no war, let alone storms... I guess you can always get eccentric rich people to buy a bunker but Arcadia isn't exactly shown as having many people of that type.
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>>123629220
>not The Imaginations:)

Come on, man
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>>123654324
>Life is Senpai

that was just a start. wait for Japanese version of LiS
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>>123607542
>>123609856
>>123613413

After these conversations we can clearly make sure about they're just leftover just like bus tickets. Also i saw someone mentioned ''then why didn't we see them in Episode 2'' For god's sake people they were in diner.

>Cue_E3_5A_ChloeRoom_CHChloe_MaxChloe_Max_015="I can't see you with any of the guys around here..."

>Cue_E3_5A_ChloeRoom_CHChloe_MaxChloe_Chloe_017="Because you have a good eye. That's why I was so glad Rachel came along to rescue me."

Also you guys reminded me of that retarded youtuber girl, i forgot her name and if i remember correctly she talked about itcondom throughout 3 hours. I'm glad that forgot her name.
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>>123650697
That's the idea, mate. Playstation 1 covers really did look ugly like that.
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>>123649203
>Everything I don't like is bait
No, THIS is why we can't have nice things. Everywhere on 4-chan for that matter. People sperg out and call bait whenever someone outside the hugbox echochamber arrives with a dissenting opinion. On every single board. Just try it out if don't believe me.
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>>123657391
>taking the 4 hours old bait
You're improving, m8.
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>>123657442
>Replying to posts several hours old
It's par for the course in a slow moving thread, bucko. If you're gonna limit yourself to recent posts you'll have to reply to 3-5 posts.
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>>123657391
Fuck off cυck
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>>123655105
It will never come out SE needs all of their money for the next FF mobile phone game.
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>>123649740
So how do we know that autopilot Max don't use her powers after Chloe got shot?
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>>123658261
Shut up retard.
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>>123659543
Her 'normal' rewind doesn't seem to trigger the tornado anyway, because when resetting the timeline in Sacrifice Chloe, you're resetting it back to a timeline where Max already used her time powers in the classroom.

The normal rewind is probably limited by Max's conscious state, meaning she wont be able to rewind back and undo Chloe getting shot when she takes over from friday-Max. She'll just hit a rewind limit of the moment the focus ended.
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>>123659543
She made a decision not to save Chloe when the player had control. When you leave the focus, the decision sticks, it's not like the universe goes back to the previous state or something.

That's why it's fucking stupid to call it autopilot.
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>>123662171

That's not how autopilot works. When Max leaves the past, the Max of the time point she takes control of regains consciousness. The sac Chloe ending takes place during the second bathroom visit after Max had already discovered she could go back in time and after using her power to fix her camera. There is no logical reason why she wouldn't just go back again go save Chloe under her own will, as its what the original Max did on that Monday and why she's in the bathroom in the first place.
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>>123662171
Max-o-psychopath. :)
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>>123662656
Actually, no.
When Max leaves the past, her "consciousness" has no idea of what the Max-in-the-past did during the time between the focus entrance and exit. There's nothing about undoing decisions Max-in-the-present (the one player has direct control of) did when "controlling" Max-in-the-past.
But then DONTNOD said something about "co-existing Maxes" on their twitter, which frankly makes no fucking sense and is not supported by the game.
So, the most likely answers is "SHITTY WRITING", as it would seem it's also dependent on which way Max-in-the-present is travelling in the time dimension and which leg the Imagination Lord put in his pants first that particular day.
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>>123660294
ok
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>>123663210
>"SHITTY WRITING"
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>>123662656
>There is no logical reason
Well, one possible reason is that she lost her powers when she willed herself into not intervening. That's as logical as it gets in magic/time travel stories. Of course, the implication of that is that the powers existed solely to save Chloe.
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>>123663210
The co-existing Maxes thing is about the continuation of previous timelines she's amended. So they're saying there's a version of Max apparently still stuck in the wheelie-chloe timeline who has to deal with the aftermath of our Max's choice, a Max who dies in the dark room, a Max stuck in SF as the tornado hits, a Max stuck in the diner. And both the original 'sacrifice Chloe' timeline and 'sacrifice Arcadia Bay' play out regardless of which timeline Max chooses to stay in.
But there's nothing confirming this within the game for certain, only Max's own speculation and fear of it.
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>>123662171
Then why did Max have Chloe repeat everything she said to her autopilot self? Because if she didn't then the autopilot Max would just redo everything exactly like she originally did and so nothing would change.

It's not fucking stupid to call it autopilot, it's a fucking perfect fit.
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>>123662656
>There is no logical reason why she wouldn't just go back again go save Chloe under her own will, as its what the original Max did on that Monday and why she's in the bathroom in the first place.
What >>123663954 said. The logical interpretation is that correcting her "mistake" of saving Chloe causes her powers to vanish. It's pretty obvious that this is what happened.
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>>123664323
Jog my memory, what was the scene about?
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>>123664409
The Warren party photo focus. Max tells Chloe she's going to have to parrot back everything Max just told her, because her autopilot self wont remember anything from the last few minutes.
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>>123664125
It's kind of interesting that Max would have died quite a bunch of times if it weren't for her time travel powers. So if in the end they come to the conclusion that the tornado happened because Chloe was destined to die, maybe Max was too.

Remember, in the original timeline, she shouted and came out of hiding when Nathan shot Chloe, unlike the sacrifice Chloe timeline where she remains hidden. Who knows what would have happened in the true timeline if she never got her time rewind. Maybe Nathan would have shot her too and she was supposed to die alongside Chloe and the tornado will still come for her.
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>>123662171
>When you leave the focus ...

Think about this for a second. What happens when "we" leave the focus? "We" instantly snap back into the future ... but we're in some other location, as if the Max whose body we just jumped out of went about the intermittent time doing things on her own. Kind of like, on an auto-pilot.

The game is clear to show that once we jump back out of a focus, Max's body goes and runs through things like she would have normally, without any knowledge of the events that took place DURING the focus. Max literally explains this to Chloe in Ep5 during the Vortex Club party focus scene. We we de-focus, Max's body runs in an auto-pilot-like state until she catches back up to "our Max" and we take over control again.
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>>123663954
There is absolutely nothing at all suggesting that she lost her powers, though. I find it more likely the other way around, that she has always had the powers to begin with and the bathroom shooting was just the what triggered Max to discover her powers, not what gave them to her. This is backed up by the fact that Wheelie Max never realized she had them.
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>>123657391
>that butthurt

We're talking about truths, and you will never understand that.

Max isn't a goddamn RPG character.You can follow her real feelings(like she says kek about Ew., doesn't want to lead him on or how she can regret if you didn't kissed Chloe,also nightmare sequences) or you can follow your own feelings.It's up to you.
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>>123664406
But that would pretty much confirm that saving Chloe is the only logical choice, if she got her powers just for that reason.
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>>123664758
Dude if we follow game's logic(!) after we saved William in AU and storm has to hit the town ''Before 5 years'' but nothing happened. (and remember we never saved Chloe in the bathroom and we never altered the original timeline but after we let William to die we came back to the timeline where we saved Chloe.I don't know it's just because Max destiny is saving her or it's just because of shitty writing.Nobody knows..)

So our explanation is: Shitty writing.
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>>123664758
Hm, it's unlikely Nathan would shoot Max seeing as how the first shot was an accident to begin with, he drops the gun and is freaked out by it. So for him to pick it back up and deliberately shoot Max...
And then all her other deaths are a direct result of altering the timeline, i. e. they weren't supposed to exist and so it's kind of the opposite implication there; that she puts her life at danger messing with the course of things, not that the course of things does that to her.

>>123664806
It's an explanation and just like there's nothing to suggest that she did, there's nothing saying she didn't either. If anything, the fact that she doesn't rewind (Chloe dies) when she is logically compelled to, must logically mean she lost her powers.

>>123664983
No? That doesn't give us anything, the choice comes with exactly the same ethical baggage. Stop trying to make one choice right or more logical or whatever.
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>>123665136
>So our explanation is: Shitty writing.
It really is shit writing.
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>>123664806
>There is absolutely nothing at all suggesting that she lost her powers, though.

There is though. It's the logical conclusion.

Following the defocus, autopilot-Max would naturally want to use her powers to rewind and save Chloe, like she did previously. She didn't rewind to save Chloe. Ergo, she couldn't.

Letting Chloe die here takes away the supernatural storm. So it's also perfectly reasonable that it also takes away her supernatural powers.

The only other alternative is that "our" Max is in the focus for so long, that by the time autopilot-Max takes over and realises what happened, she can't quite rewind far enough back to before the gun fires. This is unlikely though, Max's rewind seems to have a much greater reach that what we see in this scene.

The most obvious answer - she lost her powers. I think it's safe to say this is the canon answer.
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>>123665136
Yeah, it's shitty writing. Maybe the storm was just locked in at a certain point on the timeline relative to where Max started, regardless of what other changes she made. But it's really fucking irritating this is all such a mess, I'm used to consistent time travel theory in shit like Futurama where they actually have a scientist on the writing team.
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>>123664771
>The game is clear to show that once we jump back out of a focus, Max's body goes and runs through things like she would have normally, without any knowledge of the events that took place DURING the focus.
When you say DURING, you mean the things that happened in the past, or the present?
No time passes in the present between entering and exiting, it's all done instantaneously.
And if you mean past - you're kind of contradicting yourself - first you say past-Max continues living with the decision present-Max did, but then you say she's not aware of it at all.

>>123664323
Hold on, imma have to rewatch some let's play, I've got the biggest memory hole of what was it Max-in-the-present had to relay to herself through Max-in-the-past and Chloe.

But I gotta say we're all faggots and we're all wrong, because we're trying to find sense in something where there's none.
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>>123664983
There's no logic about story and there's any explanation about Max's powers origin. They chose to explain(!) Max's powers with this shitty dialogue like we didn't knew it before. >>123649740

Max's the one who keeps altering the timeline and her existence can fuck up timeline(because she knows everything) but they chose to shitty 'dramatic' ending to make cry their fans with cliche story. ''You shouldn't ve used your power because fuck logic and sacrifice someone you love or fuck the town and live with your consequences'' Fuck it.
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>>123665321
>She didn't rewind to save Chloe. Ergo, she couldn't.
But this could be 'she couldn't rewind at all' or it could be 'she cant rewind something she wasn't conscious for'. See >>123660928
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>>123664825
No you fukcing moran I already explained to you that Max is awkward and her reaction to things is the more she wants something the more denies it and avoids it. It's the same with the contest. You're the one making her a rpg character by projecting your lesbianism into her. She's always saying she likes boys and thinks her kiss on episode 3 was just a prank. The fact she avoids warren proves that she's completely into him and the fact that she is natural and confortable around chloe proves that she sees her as just a friend and therefore has no deeper insecurities.

Stop being a fucking simpleton and take everything at face value. Psychology is complicated unintuitive, I should know I'm a psychology major.

Sorry for being rude but I'm fucking livid at all the ignorance in this board at this point in time.
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>>123665516
>what was it Max-in-the-present had to relay to herself through Max-in-the-past and Chloe
That it was Jefferson who was the big bad and they needed to go back to Chloe's house where it was safe and stay there.
Max didn't know about Jefferson before Warren took the photo, she wont know about it after 'future Max' has had her moment in control.
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>>123665291
>No? That doesn't give us anything, the choice comes with exactly the same ethical baggage. Stop trying to make one choice right or more logical or whatever.

If Max got her power specifically for the purpose of saving Chloe and said power defies the fate of the universe itself, then the implication here is that Max got this power from a being, entity, god, whatever you want to call it that is above the universe itself and this entity wanted Max to save Chloe.

If the universe throws a tantrum and summons a tornado because Chloe lives, what would that entity who gave Max power over the universe do if you defied its will and let Chloe die? I for one wouldn't want to try to find it out.
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>>123665636
>The fact she avoids warren proves that she's completely into him
>psychology major
And people ask me why I dislike psychologists.
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>>123665291
>It's an explanation and just like there's nothing to suggest that she did, there's nothing saying she didn't either. If anything, the fact that she doesn't rewind (Chloe dies) when she is logically compelled to, must logically mean she lost her powers.
>>123665321
>There is though. It's the logical conclusion.

That's just digging a new plothole to fill another. A more sensible explanation would be she left herself a note or something explaining to her autopilot self not to rewind or something.
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>>123665636
>I'm a psychology major
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>>123665516
Okay, rewatching that scene.
>Chloe, don't do <thing>, I'm actually from the future and doing the <thing> will result in bad things
>Nah, bullshit, Nathan is the killer, not Jefferson.
Fuck that, the stupidity, fucking kill me.

You know those fics where the writer mixes tenses and it all ends up a jumbled incoherent mess? This game's writing is the direct equivalent of that.

>>123665814
I have an inkling feeling that negates some vital aspects of time travel the game established throughout the 4 previous episodes.
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>>123665636
Boy, it must really suck for you Warrenkeks that you have to ignore Max's entire diary just to keep your delusions going.
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>>123665636
>thinks her kiss on episode 3 was just a prank.

-E4_Page04_A_KissChloe="I've never been so glad to see Chloe in my life. The second I saw her blue hair and that beautiful pissed off face I wanted to kiss her again."

-E4_Page04_A_NoKissChloe="I've never been so glad to see Chloe in my life. The second I saw her blue hair and that beautiful pissed off face, I kind of regretted not kissing her when she double dared me. Maybe if she had double dog dared me..."

and if you kissed her she sees states her as ''LOVE'' route

>E5_Page08_CLOVE="Chloe is more than my best friend, but who knows how she really sees me? She did dare me to kiss her, but she seemed surprised that I actually did. I am too, but I don't regret it for a second. Maybe that's why I hated watching Chloe being so cruel in the nightmare, calling me names and flirting with all those people... I was surprised that it was like a physical pain in my heart. Is that the power of friendship... or love? \nI believe you're about to find out, Max Caulfield."

I never said Max's gay. She's bi but mostly she's Chloe-sexual. But we all know (even you) that she has never attracted Warren as you can see from the start(without your choices, if you say yes or no to the drive-in) so these're Max's true feeling.As i said before it's up to you.
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>>123665904
Why do you think she avoids the contest then? Because she really don't want to win or because avoidance is her go to response when facing something she really wants?

Everyday Heroes constete, Warren, it's exactly the same thing, same response, same context.
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>>123666250
>same response, same context
No, it isn't.

John avoids Bob because he's a dick.
John avoids Nathalie because he's in love with her and he's afraid of doing something stupid.

Are you going to tell me that John is secretly in love with Bob and wants to taste his juicy weiner just because he avoids him?
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>>123665636
>thinks her kiss on episode 3 was just a prank.
why does nightmare-Chloe say 'You should have seen her make a move on me in my room, hella lame'? Max understood there were more implications to that kiss than it just being a dare, and she's worried that Chloe was not impressed by Max's romantic advances.
I'm not going to deny that the game offers a Warren 'route' based on your choices, as shitty as that route is,
but you have to accept that Chloe's is the main romantic option for the player to experience or reject.
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the forced discussion ITT is off the charts
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>>123665636
I'm nobody to usually hate on Warren or whatever and think that whole c-uck thing went from a little funny trope in Episode 1 to people being aggressively defensive about something completely irrelevant. But if you are above the age of 10 and write "Ew." into your diary about the prospect of being with a person, I'm sorry "psychology major" guy, that means you don't really like them. She can grow to like him somewhat, especially after the things he does - but she doesn't in one week discover some hidden love in herself. A Warren route was always going to be awkward and feel like a forced dating sim after what Max thinks and says, but after leaving him to be beat up and later sending him away after he saved you and is scared and confused - there's no room for romance. That "kiss" option is ridiculous, even more so considering the circumstances (she is lying about her reasons for being there straight to his face, and leaves him standing there to save Chloe and in the next moment doesn't even think of saying a word that could save his life).

>>123665871
Implying implications: The post. We don't know the source of her powers. Not what they mean to the universe. Not that both the "tantrum" and her powers stir from the same origin. For all we know her powers could just be the "power of love", the manifestation of her bond to Chloe and the storm Rachel's revenge. Or everything could be a dream, too. We have no definite insight into any of that to make statements about either being "more logical". Your " I for one wouldn't want to try to find it out." is straight paradoxical.

>>123665924
This is not a plot hole. We had this discussion before - read up on those or just go read the definition of plot hole. Since there is a possible explanation, it can categorically not be a plot hole.
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This whole conversation is retarded. Max forgot about the fucking tornado, but here is what she said before our Max leaves.
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>>123666450
>Warren 'route' based on your choices

you mean fanservice route which isn't main characters's true feelings
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Caps anon
Caps anon
Caps anon

We need you, we're doing what dontnod wants us to do - arguing between ourselves and that obscures how shit the story is.
Save us, you're our only hope.
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>>123666010
>I have an inkling feeling that negates some vital aspects of time travel the game established throughout the 4 previous episodes.
Max's focus amnesia is honestly one of the few consistent things in the game. You might need to replay.
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>>123665516
It works like this.

We have "our" Max. We focus on a photograph and jump into the body of ourself in the past. We are then free to make some change within the bounds of the photograph. Then we jump out.

We jump out at the same time that we jumped in. No time has passed between jumping in and jumping out.

HOWEVER, the Max whose body we jumped out of when we defocus goes about living her life like normal, only with some aspect of it altered (eg. in Ep3, once we defocus after saving William, Max was apparently not so affected by his death and went on to be more confident, therefore making her a bit of a bitch, therefore allowing her to befriend Victoria). WE jump out at the LOCATION that this autopilot-Max ended up at, at the same time we jumped into the photograph. The autopilot-Max that continued living her life after we jumped out of her body on defocus doesn't remember anything that happened during the focus.

It's pretty easy to understand, it's just difficult to explain in words.

>>123665924
>That's just digging a new plothole to fill another.
I swear to god, nobody in these threads understands what a "plot hole" actually is. Autopilot-Max not rewinding to save Chloe in the "sacrifice Chloe" ending isn't a plot hole, because there are simple explanations which are logical consequences of information the game gives us. Either she loses her powers (easily the most likely explanation), or >>123665605's "she can't rewind things she wasn't conscious for" explanation works as well.

"It wasn't explained" isn't necessarily equivalent to "plot hole".
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>>123666176
The funny thing is that even if you don't kiss her, even if you kiss Warren, this last diary entry is still mostly the same, just not the beginning about being more than friends.
Even if you go full on Warren route and you do all anti-Chloe choices you can, It still says:

"...Maybe that's why I hated watching Chloe being so cruel in the nightmare, calling me names and flirting with all those people... I was surprised that it was like a physical pain in my heart. Is that the power of friendship... or love? \ I believe you're about to find out, Max Caulfield."
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>>123666595
basically, fanservice for insecure girls plus 'author avatar gets the girl'

>>123666446
Bob x Nathalie best ship desu senpai
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>>123666607
I miss caps anon
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>>123665605
>she cant rewind something she wasn't conscious for
But she can. Autopilot Max clearly can use her powers, since Chloe from both San Fran and the torn photo timeline is aware of them.
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>>123666250
>Everyday Heroes constete, Warren, it's exactly the same thing, same response, same context.

You're right, I completely agree.

>"There will always be another Warren, Max, but you only get one Chloe."
>"Sorry Warren, Chloe comes first."
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>>123666828
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>>123666820
You're a cunt.
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>>123666828
You misunderstand what I meant.
> [ max is free to rewind normally ]
> { focus segment: the max who is focusing can rewind but only to the start of the focus }
> [ autopilot max cannot rewind back into focus segment because she was not conscious for it ]
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>>123667016
You are too anon.
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>>123666501
I never understood why so many people keep bringing up the tornado in this scene. Max didn't forget it.

Both Max and Chloe have thought the tornado was real for DAYS. They're not on the fence about it at this point in the timeline, they're fully confident it will happen. What, do you think they've just gone through several days of supernatural powers and bizarre/supernatural weather phenomena ... but are still inexplicably on the fence about the existence of the storm? Of course not.

They both know about it, they both believe it will happen. Max reaffirming it to Chloe in this scene doesn't achieve anything. Especially when her top priority is to give Chloe as much information as she can about Jefferson.
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>>123666765
>The funny thing is that even if you don't kiss her, even if you kiss Warren, this last diary entry is still mostly the same, just not the beginning about being more than friends.
Even if you go full on Warren route and you do all anti-Chloe choices you can...

That's why i'm saying ''Max's true feelings'' no matter what if you choose to just kiss c.uck she still sees Chloe in her nightmare flirting with everyone, if you chose to kiss them both she still sees Chloe as LOVE route not kek.

You should see this too:

>E5_Page07_BLOVE="How could this not be some kind of fate or destiny? \nEven though we're opposites in so many ways, we're also so alike. We'll always be pirates in spirit and we'll always want to take on the world... It sounds so stupid to say that she's my hero, but if not her, who else? Sometimes Chloe and I feel like yin and yang. \nWho knows? Maybe we're here to give each other strength... or more."
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>>123667163
Are you stupid? Max telling Chloe to warn at least Joyce to not go to the diner would have saved her life. Max could also have easily warned Warren if she wanted to.
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>>123667139
This would imply there is a connection between the timeline and Max's consciousness. And that's getting dangerously close to some weird Japanese mahou shoujo shit.
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>>123666608
Was there another instance of it?
>replay
Nah.

>>123666682
Hmm..
Okay, so the story says it works like this. I can accept that.
It's still stupid, if you think about it - past-Max' memory about doing some thing shouldn't be removed, because it's an aspect of her that SHOULD have an impact on the decisions she made after regaining control. Otherwise it suggests that after, for instance, tearing the contest photo Max should start wondering where the hell she put it and why can't she keep postponing entering it.
It's fucking stupid, and a little scary.
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>>123667373
>Was there another instance of it?
The timeline where Max tore her photo. When the autopilot kicked in, she wasn't aware of the whole Jefferson jumbo, so she didn't warn David => she got caught again.
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>>123667163
What was Max's plan of surviving the tornado though? She knew she could regain consciousness just at the time where the tornado was about to hit town. If autopilot Max hadn't told Chloe about the lighthouse, for whatever inexplicit reason, they both would have died.
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Guys how can you talk about endings when there was no logic about them? Is it power of Imagination:) ... or autism?
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>>123667163
My issue with it is that she didn't try to at least warn her about the diner explosion.
I understand that at that point, they didn't have a solution to stop the tornado, and by now Max has been through so much shit she just wants to get to Friday with Chloe by her side so they can decide what to do together. But just one more sentence could have possibly saved the lives of Joyce, Warren and/or Frank, considering the explosion was certain death and they might have otherwise been comparatively safe in the diner.
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>>123667318
>Are you stupid?
Are you?

Max and Chloe could have done this at any point in the game following the diner scene in Ep2 where Max convinced Chloe of her powers. They didn't. For whatever reason, not warning people of the storm has never been high on the girl's priorities. So there is no reason for people to get such a storm-boner over that one particular scene. You're not saying anything that we haven't been saying since Ep2 released - the girls are convinced of the storm, but aren't doing anything to warn anyone.
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>>123666765
This is why I hate the diary, it's just the pandering devs fanwaking and railroading their romance line because they realized Pricefield was popular (and therefore profitable).

Notice that until episode 5 she would never say something like "maybe it's love", and doing so when you are anti-chloe and pro-warren is ridiculous. It just makes no sense and it's there obviously for the sake of pandering, and personally I consider the diare as barely a step up from fanfiction or prima guides. Was the retard who wrote the entries even part of the core writing team? I wouldn't be surprised if they just relagated that to some junior intern who had no idea what was going on with the actual plot.
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>>123667802
It's severe autism!
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>>123667956
>and doing so when you are anti-chloe and pro-warren is ridiculous
You completely missed the whole "Max isn't a blank character, she has a pre-established personality and preferences" thing, huh?
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>mfw there's a kek in the thread
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>>123667163
>Max reaffirming it to Chloe in this scene doesn't achieve anything.
First of all: Yes? A simple "Oh, and tell Joyce not to go to work on friday." would have achieved quite a bit, and that's obviously just the start of it.

Also: "The storm! It's actually real!" - Yes, Max "believed" it was going to happen, but only when it did did it really hit her. She already forgot about the storm in the SF timeline, - so she wasn't necessarily completely convinced before. And now not only does she definitely know it will hit, she also has seen what it does, has seen people die. And she still doesn't bother to mention that they have to warn people and stuff. Before she always thought they were somehow going to prevent it, that's maybe (not really) an excuse not to ring alarm bells constantly. But now she does, should be shaken to her core after seeing Warren and Joyce blow up, people get crushed by cars and stuff, but she doesn't even think to mention any of it.

>>123667849
>For whatever reason, not warning people of the storm has never been high on the girl's priorities.
Because they had this vague idea of it resolving itself after investigating Rachel and Kate and that someone was guiding her and what have you. Joyce, the person Max looks up to, that she "worships", blew up right in front of her. "So there is no reason for people to get such a storm-boner over that one particular scene." is a pretty unreasonable assessment.
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>>123667956
>m-muh pandering!!1!

somebody sounds assblasted desu
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>>123667956
>anti-chloe
no such thing m8
you can keep things platonic but chloe is always the most important person in max's life.
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>>123667956
>butthurt intensifies

also answer's this >>123668059
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Is this still a meme game?
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>>123667956
I think it's more the fact that Warren was never meant to be Chloe's rival. Even if Max dated Warren and saw Chloe and "just" her best friend, she'd still love Chloe as her friend more than she would ever love Warren. That is proven over and over again throughout the game. She just doesn't give much of a shit about Warren.
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>>123668471
>She just doesn't give much of a shit about Warren
Then she wouldn't date him, there's no 'even' about it.
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>>123667956
Pricefield was already canon from the start. And they clearly confirmed this relationship in Episode 3. I'm saying this for the last time, Max isn't a blank RPG character follow her feelings or follow your own feelings. Get over it.
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>>123667825
>>123668089
>First of all: Yes? A simple "Oh, and tell Joyce not to go to work on friday." would have achieved quite a bit, and that's obviously just the start of it.
Missing the point. Max is convinced the town is going to be destroyed. It doesn't matter if Joyce is at work or at home.

Again, you're just focusing in on a specific problem that has been with the game since the start. Max and Chloe have been convinced of the storm for days, so pointing fingers during one specific scene where Max obviously has something else at the top of her priority list is a bit naff.

>She already forgot about the storm in the SF timeline ...
1) She had been thrown into a pretty big situation with all the gallery stuff, especially after the rollercoaster ride of all the Jefferson stuff minutes earlier. She hadn't experienced the storm head-on at this point yet, so I could forgive if it weren't at the front of her mind.

2) Did she? It's not even clear to me that she didn't think that last little bit of focus shenanigans fixed everything. Without going back to re-watch the scene, my impression was more that she was surprised the storm was still happening, not that it was happening at all.

>But now she does, should be shaken to her core after seeing Warren and Joyce blow up, people get crushed by cars and stuff, but she doesn't even think to mention any of it.
I agree, it seems unlikely. But her priority was much more on making sure Chloe was alive. She gets pretty worked up about CHLOE in that scene, so I think it's reasonable to forgive that this was the focus of that ... focus.

>Because they had this vague idea of it resolving itself after investigating Rachel and Kate and that someone was guiding her and what have you.
Things were getting worse the more they investigated. They made basically zero progress until ~24 hours before the storm hits. There is no reason they couldn't have been warning loved ones earlier than Thursday night. But they didn't.
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>>123666682
>Either she loses her powers (easily the most likely explanation)
How in heavens is that a simpler or more likely explanation than "she left a note to herself"?

And yes, Max losing her powers after letting Chloe die makes absolutely no sense. She still had her powers even when the bathroom scene never took place to begin with. Specially since the only reason it is being considered is to explain why she didn't rewound, which can be explained better by her simply writing up a note.
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>>123668656
The last interacting Max has with Warren outisde the bay ending, is that she runs into Chloe's arms and lets him walk towards his certain death, without even bothering to warn him.
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>>123668089
You know why they didn't have Max warn Chloe about the storm/diner? It's another fucking final choice balance thing.

Final scene plays out like
>Chloe: so many people in AB deserve to live.. b-but at least we managed to convince my mom to go to the shelter
>Max: and Frank and Warren, and Warren got a bunch of people from Blackwell to join them, right? (Variable dialogue to include Kate if alive and Victoria if friendly with)
>Chloe: yeah.. but shit Max, there's still so many people down there.. they don't deserve this
>Max: you don't deserve to die in that bathroom

a way larger proportion of players are going to be like 'fuck the nameless townspeople' and pick save Chloe. It's all manipulation for the sake of that final choice.
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>>123667956
>Her diary written by the devs
>Fanfiction
Here, this is for you!
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>>123668656
2_Page04_B="I only told him a little about what was going on with Nathan. The less he knows, the better for him. I would love to at least tell him about my ability to fucking reverse time and space, but ironically I don't think it's the right time or space... Besides, he would want to marry me immediately, just so he could have his own human time machine. Or capture me for scientific experiments... Or make me go to the drive-in with him."

E2_Page04_C="Oh wait... I did say I would go to the drive-in with him. Hope he doesn't make a lame move on me... (Not that he would, egomaniac.) Warren and I do have a lot in common, but he's like a supercool geek brother... Anyway, I definitely need a movie escape."

E2_Page04_D="Oh wait. He did try and get me to go to the drive-in with him, and I refused. I'm not really in the mood this week, and I also don't want to lead him on..."

there's nothing left to say. also nightmare sequences clearly implying everything
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>>123669082
>How in heavens is that a simpler or more likely explanation than "she left a note to herself"?
Because we literally see that she didn't leave herself a note. We see her focus in, we see her sitting there huddled behind the stall while Chloe is shot, and we see her focus out. There was no note writing.

>She still had her powers even when the bathroom scene never took place to begin with.
No, she didn't.

OUR Max has her powers, she did all the bathroom stuff.

Alternate-Max (Maxine) never had powers. "She" only got powers when OUR Max jumped into her body. The powers are seemingly associated with consciousness, not the body.
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>>123669136
>The last interacting Max has with Warren outisde the bay ending, is that she runs into Chloe's arms and lets him walk towards his certain death, without even bothering to warn him.
That was quite a dick move, TßH.
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>>123669464
You're still here? Are you mentally ill?
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>>123667802
> Is it power of Imagination:) ... or autism?

both
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>>123669079
>Missing the point.
Missing the point. "Reaffirming" can be anything here. She could also tell her to tell Joyce to go to a bunker or to leave town.

>Max and Chloe have been convinced of the storm for days
That quote I used there is direct evidence that Max wasn't ~really~ convinced the storm was real, let alone what it would do to Arcadia.

>She hadn't experienced the storm head-on at this point yet, so I could forgive if it weren't at the front of her mind.
Considering that the storm vision started it all and is front and center of her teenage space travel oddyssey I wouldn't think to forgive her forgetting about it over some art gallery. She was pretty relaxed there too, the Jefferson effects weren't all that apparent for her other thoughts that'd make me think that she forgot about the storm over that.

>It's not even clear to me that she didn't think that last little bit of focus shenanigans fixed everything.
Fair enough, could be. Not sure right now what her exact reaction is myself. Is just a side point ultimately anyway.

>But her priority was much more on making sure Chloe was alive.
Yeah, and this is what people get boners over? That she would be that unfazed and oblivious to the storm right after coming out of that Diner and all that happened. That's saying "the storm is not her priority because the storm because it's not her priority".

>There is no reason they couldn't have been warning loved ones earlier than Thursday night. But they didn't.
Exactly. People have gotten storm-boners the entire game through, calling Max retarded left and right. But at least there was still the idea that some mystery connected to Rachel and some magic to do with spirit animals etc. would resolve everything if we just followed that.
But now they get huge storm-boners in this scene. It was kind of dumb to trust on a spirit doe and not constructively think about the implications of the storm to begin with. Here it's just unblievable for many.
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>>123669525
Pretty much.

Forget Max being in love with Warren, If she even truly cared about Warren as a friend, she would have had him join the investigation at episode 4 after he beat up Nathan. He flat out says he wants to come with them and Max rejects him because either she doesn't trust him or doesn't want to have him around. Then once again at the party focus. She could easily have told Warren to trust her and stay with them, to save his life, but she didn't, because once she saw Chloe alive again, she completely forgot Warren even existed.
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>>123669579
>Alternate-Max (Maxine) never had powers. "She" only got powers when OUR Max jumped into her body. The powers are seemingly associated with consciousness, not the body.

You are forgetting that once Max changes back William's death, her autopilot does everything we did before previously, including saving Chloe, telling Chloe about her powers, proving it to her at the junkyard and all that stuff. If autopilot Max couldn't use her powers, then how the fuck would episode 4 Chloe know of her powers when Max came back from the AU?
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>>123669579
Now you're just making making the explanation even more convoluted to fit in. Her powers are associated with her conscious now? When the simpler explanation is that she simply never realized she had them in the Wheelie timeline? This is a textbook failure to apply the Ockham's razor. Just because she isn't show to write one doesn't mean she doesn't. The camera doesn't stay with her all the time. When you hear clopping think horses, not pink zebras.
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>>123669734
>Why are you still here even though I'm still here myself
I must be mentally ill, because in your post I'm seeing levels of retardation that can't possibly exist.
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>>123670492
He may be, not sure if I'm understanding the consciousness argument properly in this context, but his original point stands. It's an entirely possible and at least somewhat reasonable explanation that Max lost her powers after deciding not to save Chloe in the moment that originally granted her, or summoned, or whatever - her powers.
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>>123670061
after this shitty dialogue >>123649740

after whole shitty ''who's causing to storm'' ''holy shiet Max going back to the time causes it.chaos theory also butterfly effect'' dialogue we can ''don't kiss him'' even we can don't get that kissing option or ''kiss him''(which's doesn't fit with main character's feeling also people calling it as fanservice) but we can have ''two friendzone'' which's are canon options for Max because she never said that she sees him as ''more than friend'' :

>Act_E5_5C_Diner_CHWarren_Look02_Max_020="I hope Warren knows how much his friendship means to me."

>Act_E5_5C_Diner_CHWarren_Look02_Max_025="I like how Warren just does his thing no matter what."

but actually to me, whole warren dialogue in that diner is just fanservice.
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>>123670798
So in Bae ending after we saved Chloe storm hit the town and gone for forever? did they confirm it?
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>>123671162
Yep, that's what our imagination god said.
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>>123670361
Autopilot Max CAN use powers - once she gets them herself. She doesn't get them until she saves Chloe in the bathroom.

>>123670492
I'm not making anything more convoluted, I'm simply explaining what the game presents to us. We know that the powers travel via consciousness because Max uses them while in her 13-year-old body, and it's undeniable that she didn't have powers at this age.

It seems very unlikely that alternate-Max (Maxine) had powers. If she did, she certainly didn't know about them. And the powers are seemingly tied to the same event that caused the storm - Chloe's death in the bathroom. Alternate-Max (Maxine) didn't experience this, so it makes most sense that she simply doesn't have powers.

Occam's razor would state that "Max loses her powers once she lets Chloe die" is probably the correct answer. It makes the most sense in terms of how we know autopilot-Max behaves, and it makes the most sense given the fact that this action removes other supernatural entities as well (the storm). The "autopilot-Max can't rewind before defocus point" is also reasonable, but it's a bit less straight forward.
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>>123671162
Yes they did. They said they have a clean slate in the bae ending. So the blood god of Arcadia Bay was satisfied with the sacrifice.
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>>123671397
>She doesn't get them until she saves Chloe in the bathroom.
She already got them. Max goes back to the point when she took her second butterfly photo, which is after Max first saw Chloe get shot and rewound.
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>>123671353
>>123671469

so what's the point of other ending then?: ''don't use your power erase everything only god knows who gave it to you but you shouldn't have used it and don't you ever dare to use it anymore.''

>>123671541
storm
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>>123671596
We don't know that though. Max should have 2 butterfly photos representing different timelines, one where she already got her powers and one where she doesn't. We never know which one she gave Chloe.
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>>123671596
Yesh, hence the idea that she loses them when she doesn't do what she rewound for originally. You are just going in circles now.

>>123671397
I think rather than tying it to her "consciousness", we could also argue when she "jumps into" her older selves she "becomes" those and they are not themselves. AU Maxine is still Max once we "arrive" there again. It's not a different person with our "consciousness" put into. It's literally Max, just that she doesn't remember what she did in the meantime in that timeline.
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>>123671902
We do know that though. Photos that Max takes don't survive her powers, that's why you can't take the photo of David and Kate arguing, then rewind and still keep the photo.
Why do her powers affect her photos but not the rest of the inventory? Good question. Ask the Imagination Lord.
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>>123671801
To bait people and what you said. To never use your powers for good because....consequences of time travel. :/
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>>123671801
>you shouldn't have used it and don't you ever dare to use it anymore
yup, bend over and let the universe have its way with you
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>>123671397
>and it's undeniable that she didn't have powers at this age.
Not really, it's perfectly possible she always had them to begin with and just didn't know about it.

>Occam's razor would state that "Max loses her powers once she lets Chloe die" is probably the correct answer.
Again, no. Ockam's razor states:
>Among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected

Now, her losing her powers must assume the following to be true:
1- Her powers are tied to her conscience
2- She was granted those powers on the first time the bathroom scene played
3- Her powers are specifically tied to that scene, and if the scene plays out without her using the powers, she loses them

That's 3 assumptions, and quite big ones at that. While her simply leaving a note only requires her leaving a note off-camera. Which we know for a fact that she does -- we never see her writing any entries in her diary, yet there they are.
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>>123670765
Ebin rebuttal! Upboat 4u!
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>>123672179
Come on now.
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>>123672043
then fuck the universe man.. just think if you had powers,you are time goddess and some fucking shitty universe says you stop using it, don't try to help anyone because destiny because chaos theory muh shit. of course i'm gonna use it nobody can stop me also i'd rather be with someone i love.
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>>123672352
>Spidermanposting
>outside of /b/
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>>123672352
Dude epic! XD
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>>123672589
This excites me greatly.
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Helloooo :) Did I come at the wrong time?
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>>123672107
>1- Her powers are tied to her conscience
No. Who says it's her consciousness that goes into a photo? It's literally herself that does. It's always Max, with her soul and whatever magic that comes with that. He may be making things more complicated saying it's tied to her consciousness, but we don't need that assumption.

>2- She was granted those powers on the first time the bathroom scene played
>3- Her powers are specifically tied to that scene, and if the scene plays out without her using the powers, she loses them
These are identical assumptions and the only one that this theory needs.
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>>123672753
You came at the perfect time! Hopefully you'll still be here when it's time to make a new thread, I love posting in your threads.
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>>123670923
>realizing how much somebody means to you when that person who was willing to take a bullet for you
>lol fanservice

>two girls making out on a cliff
>10/10 writing bra OSCAR contender

Fuck off you have no diea what you are talking abotu.
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>>123672753
Make us a thread now!
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>he's still this assblasted after hours

mental illness
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>>123672754
>These are identical assumptions
They aren't. Assumption #2 is about when she got her powers — during the bathroom scene, earlier or she had them all along. Assumption #3 is about the bathroom scene being the trigger for both acquiring the powers and losing them, and also about certain specific conditions (letting the scene play out/letting Chloe die) that must be met in order for the trigger to get... well, triggered.
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>>123673029
What's the point of this, we all know its there.
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>>123672903
>''Psychology major'' couldn't handle truths

pls stfu
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>>123672754
>but we don't need that assumption.
You do to explain why she carries the power around when she goes into the pictures. Call it consciousness or soul, the point still stands that the powers must be tied specifically to that.

>These are identical assumptions and the only one that this theory needs.
Still one assumption too many.
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>>123673107
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>>123673029
I have to say it's quite impressive that they managed to carve that out in perfect cursive calligraphy.
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>>123672107
>Not really, it's perfectly possible she always had them to begin with and just didn't know about it.
Who is trying to invoke Occam's razor again?! No, it's EXTREMELY unlikely that Max had her powers at this point and simply never realised it. It would be a MASSIVE coincidence that Max had her powers all along and only HAPPENED to realise she had them during the EXACT even that caused the storm.

No. 13-year-old Max didn't have powers. She only has powers in the focus moment because OUR Max jumped into her. This is a pretty slam-dunk statement.

>Now, her losing her powers must assume the following to be true:
Negatory. We don't ASSUME these to be true. We KNOW these are true. You can wave your little hands around and play invisible pink unicorn as much as you want, but the game is pretty deliberately clear to demonstrate that this is indeed what is going on.

Occam's razor implies that the simplest explanation is PROBABLY the most correct. Not that it IS the correct answer. But this is a moot point, because the "Max loses her powers when she sacrifices Chloe" is by far the simplest, most logical explanation.

Surely you're trolling at this point?
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>>123673608
Magic
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>>123673069
I'm afraid I don't follow you there. The assumption is she never had the powers and got them there to save Chloe. So now when she decides not to save her there she could lose them as a result.

And then, how did you guys arrive at Occam being relevvant here to begin with? Even if I were to grant you that there's 3 or 4 or however many assumptions needed for this theory to work, it does still work and so it's not a plot hole. Yeah, it's unsatisfying and less clear and spectacularly concluded in the game than we had hoped - but that is obvious anways. It's still within the realms of logical (within itself) possibility that this is how things went down. As we concluded in all those prior discussions about this: It's a shame they didn't leave a hint in there to say whether she did or did not lose her powers in either ending (but then it's a shame where they have gone with it all to begin with). We could always ask on twitter I guess...

>>123673202
>the point still stands that the powers must be tied specifically to that.
That the power must be tied to her current self, yes. And that her current self travels into those photos. Not too outlandish.

>Still one assumption too many.
Yeah, sorry if I jumped in on your occam debate there without really intending to defend him on that anyway. I'm just saying the explanation itself is not impossible and therefore neither is the ending, i. e. no plot hole.
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>>123672903
(during the storm)

Warren: "Should have done that a long time ago.|But damn, Max... I can't believe you actually drove down here|in the middle of a fucking E6 tornado, just for one photograph(actually for Chloe)...|I mean, I know you didn't come for me. :(

Max: Warren, I came for all of you. Just tell me you do have the photograph." says tiredly. (oh just gimme that fucking photo)

Warren: I just want...

Max: Now shut up and listen.

(3 seconds later)
>Max leaves Warren leaps into Chloe's arms

He only cares about his d-i-c-k Max only cares about Chloe and yeah it was clearly fanservice. They gave change to him explain(!) Max's powers which's implying they didn't overcome about Max's power get over it Fucking bait poster.
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I need some cute Marshfield fics/pics. anyone?
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>>123674416
>I need some cute/sexy Maximum Victory fics/pics. anyone?
Fixed.
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>>123674548
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>>123674416
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>>123672873
>>123672914

Oh i will don't worry :)

>>123674805
Not nice but still everything fits perfectly to Kate :)
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>>123673807
>No, it's EXTREMELY unlikely that Max had her powers at this point and simply never realised it. It would be a MASSIVE coincidence that Max had her powers all along and only HAPPENED to realize she had them during the EXACT even that caused the storm.
No, her using the powers is what causes the storm. This isn't even an assumption, it's explicitly stated in-game and is the whole point of the endings. The time when she discovers the powers is the trigger for the storm, so it's not a coincidence it's just cause and effect. If she had discovered her powers before due to some other reason, that event would be the cause for the storm.

>Negatory. We don't ASSUME these to be true. We KNOW these are true.
No, we don't.

>You can wave your little hands around and play invisible pink unicorn as much as you want
>Surely you're trolling at this point?
Oh, I get it now. I'll keep the reply since it's already typed and all, but I'm done here.
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>>123674416
>Scat Story Writer
>"I need some cute Marshfield fics/pics. anyone?"
Yeah, how about no?
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>>123674940
Thanks! I enjoyed your last thread while it lasted.
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>>123674921
Thank you! :)
>>123675126
What did I ever do to you?
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>>123674416
Based scat anon, I missed you.
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>>123674139
>being this much of a yurifag
Seriously you purityfags are pathetic. Chloe is the town bicycle, I hope your Max don't get whatever the fuck she already has. Also you're just mad because a guy ended up with your waifu. The majority of the demographics this game catered to, you know GIRLS and not fucking guys in their mid 20s and 30s living in their mom's basement, chose Warren. Don't believe me? Look up the kiss statistics, and look up all of the youtube videos. The only ones who choose Chloe are virgin yurishits.
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>>123674139
Stop responding to bait.
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>>123674548
I have read this one on the recommendation of an anon here and it's really pretty intriguing: http://archiveofourown.org/works/4577451?view_adult=true&view_full_work=true.

There's some things I don't like about it (ranging from petty like Vicky not being a natural blonde to more essential like having her character in reverse in some senses to how I understand it from canon) but overall it's a great and captivating read with a lot of substance and surprising literary finesse for fanfiction.

Max will be introdcued in the final chapter. Not sure where they are going with it seeing as how it's mainly about the Nathan/Victoria relationship, so sexy/cute Maximum Victory might not be all too accurate here (at all), but I thought I'd highlight it for people that like me miss it because it's not tagged as Max/Vicky and maybe want to get in on that sweet anticipation.
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>>123675241
I don't trust you... I'm scared that you are going to use them for something weird. But okay, this time.
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>>123675563
Your posts and blatant shilling is obnoxious. Stop posting that garbage fic.
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>>123675572
I'm not. I have no time left.
>>123675308
I have missed you too, Anon
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>>123675346
>watching shit-eater LPers

>tfw you watched Square Enix's twitch

>tfw you saw they chose 'Leave c.uck''

>tfw you saw they chose to ''Bae ending''

>tfw ur 2 second non-canon kissing choice is still decreassing

now gtfo and cry like a bitch.
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>>123675346

It literally doesn't fucking matter what the kiss statistics were. This isn't an RPG, Max only liking Warren as a friend is canon via her actions and diary, and the kiss was stupid fan service for keks like you.
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>>123673969
>And then, how did you guys arrive at Occam being relevvant here to begin with? Even if I were to grant you that there's 3 or 4 or however many assumptions needed for this theory to work, it does still work and so it's not a plot hole.
Ockham's razor is relevant because it states to always pick the simplest of the competing hypothesis. The two hypothesis to explain why autopilot Max didn't rewind Chloe's shooting in the BAY ending are:

1- Max lost her powers after letting Chloe die
2- Max left some kind of note warning autopilot Max not to rewind

2 is arguably simpler than 1. That is not to say 2 is definitely correct, but it is definitely the most likely to be correct given what we know at this time.
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>>123675346
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>>123675156
Hahah we'll see :)
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>>123675878
>68% still chose Warren over town slut
Yes yes and femshep is canon as well...

>>123675884
>its real in my mind!
Okay...
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CUNT POSTER THREAD WHEN
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>>123675346
>being this delusional
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>>123676001
I-I don't trust that guy at all... Something is clearly very shifty about him and that smile.
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>>123676180
>town bicycle
>virgin yurishits
>purityfags
>town slut
anon I think you have some personal issues you need to reflect on
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>>123675993
Hm, I would be inclined to agree with him there in that we just don't see her writing a note or something. But fair enough I guess... Since this ultimately doesn't deal with the point I was trying to make I don't really want to wrap my head around which of the two needs more assumptions or is more likely to be correct, so sorry for stepping in without having read that initial exchange properly.
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>>123675694
>I have no time left.
Why anon?
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>>123675563
Thanks anon. :) I'll read it.
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>>123676180
>c.uck proud of non canon kek choice's still decreassing

poor cu.ck
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>>123676626
They have three days to live. Scat story writer will be the next poster to die off from this general.
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>>123676748
>68%
>still decreasing
Sure thing Tumblr. Even if it went down to 51% and it won't, I still win.
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>>123676748
Use this 'υ' so you can type cυck
>>123676878
Shut up retard
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>>123676953
So rude!
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>>123676656
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>>123676885

No, it would mean you're still just part of a majority comprised of deluded people who lack the basis instinct to pick up on hinted subtext, even when it's in plain writing in her fucking personal journal.
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baka desu senpai
After all this time, people continue to respond to blatant bait.
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>>123677246
So rude!
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>>123677347
Rudeposting not allowed!
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>>123676885
>tumblr
N E W
F A G
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>>123677242
>a majority comprised of deluded people
>majority
>deluded people
>I'm not crazy, everyone else is!
Okay... *backs away slowly*
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>>123677242
Doesn't help that you're calling everyone cυck like a fucking SJW white knighting faggot. Also the journal CHANGES as you made your choice you fucking retard. If Max agreed to the date with Warren it implied that she likes him. Stop going by your version of the journal.
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>>123676885
>Even if it went down to 51% and it won't

Ah don't worry it will. Also it was 75% a week ago and now it's 67% and still decreassing so maybe you should prepare yourself to die if you care about people's shitty choices.
Nothing's gonna change that it's still non-canon choice you fucking baitcυck.
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MAX LOVES CHLOE
CHLOE LOVES MAX
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>>123676656
>>123677172
No problem, hopefully you'll like it despite not being Maximum Victory fluff. Are there anymore swaps where those came from?
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>>123677587
>calling everyone cυck like a fucking SJW white knighting faggot.

Xir, if you're getting this triggered by that word perhaps you should try out tumblr. They won't invade your safe space and will be completely respectful of things that upset you, unlike this horrid place!
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>>123677587

You're right, it changes to this

>>123669525

She, as the character we inherit, does not see Warren as anything more than a friend. Get over it.
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>>123677587
>If Max agreed to the date with Warren it implied that she likes him

anon pls don't start that shit again:

>E2_Page04_C="Oh wait... I did say I would go to the drive-in with him. Hope he doesn't make a lame move on me... (Not that he would, egomaniac.) Warren and I do have a lot in common, but he's like a supercool geek brother... Anyway, I definitely need a movie escape."

>E2_Page04_D="Oh wait. He did try and get me to go to the drive-in with him, and I refused. I'm not really in the mood this week, and I also don't want to lead him on..."

and you should rewatch nightmare sequences.
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>>123677756
look it up
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>>123677770
Are you saying the same thing to /pol/acks when they get angry after being called kikes or niggers or anything? Are they SJWs? Your logic is 10/10
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>>123677604
>he actually looks everyday
Being this pathetic really?

>>123677770
Nope I'm from /pol/ I am used to shit. I am just saying that cυck is the only thing your feeble mind can throw out instead of having a real debate like civilized people.
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>>123678017
Xir, there's no need to get aggressive, it was just a word of advice.
I completely understand not liking the word (TW: slurs against betas) 'cück'. It can be rather upsetting to see, but I can assure you that tumblr will welcome you with open arms and would ever say that word to purposely upset you.
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>>123677756
This is the only one I have. It's dark though.
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whoever is making the next thread dont forget it's #250, it deserves a good edition
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Post limit or image limit first?
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>>123678168
You do get me angry by calling me with made up gender pronouns, that's for sure. Since when has anyone else than warrenfags been called cυcks?
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>>123678518
#250 THE END OF EVERYTHING PARRTAY
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>>123678058
What did you expect from the general for Tumblr: The Game? Nothing but sjw and faggots here. Some threads ago there was even whining about "racial representation" here, despite more than half of the cast being non white. In fucking Oregon for crying out loud.
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>>123678518
If it's a cunt poster thread it'll always be a good edition.
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>>123676626
No time left to write stories. College has swarmed me
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>>123678639
Like I said, there's no need to be aggressive. I'm just respecting your preferred pronouns.
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>>123678771
>College has swarmed me
I know how you feel. I'm writing a 6 page essay right now. College kills.
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>>123678684
I'm on it uhhhh 10 posts to go.. :)
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>>123679191
I'm looking forward to it.
Nine more posts!
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>>123676656
>>123677172
>>123678497
Maximum Victory needs to be more popular. ):
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>>123679251
Any variation of Victoria shitters need to fuck off.
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Sacrifice Bay and Sacrifice Bae: How do you improve them?
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>>123679251
Maximum Victory used to rule these threads along with Marshfield. Chloefags were in the minority until episode 4 at least.
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>>123679251
>tfw there will never be a fanfic about AU Max who is the leader of the Vortexfags
dat dripping wet vicky tho...
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>>123679442
Lesbian intercourse. That goes for both, of course.
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NEW THREAD
>>123679587
>>123679587
>>123679587
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>>123678840
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POST KATE TILL IMAGE LIMIT
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NEW THREAD

>>123679827
>>123679827
>>123679827
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>>123679825
YEAH KATE KATE KATE KATE KATE
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>>123679825
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>>123680027
KATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATE
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real thread

>>123679827
>>123679827
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>>123680350
YEAH KATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATEKATE
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>>123680350
>>
Why are you faggots making 10 threads again?
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>>123681614
this >>123679790
anon made thread before we bump the limit

Come here >>123679827
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>>123684630
Yeah, no. I prefer the good thread with the pretty picture.
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>>123684756
you can post there >>123679827 whatever you want
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>>123684837
No.
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>>123684929
whatever
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So why the fuck are all those threads still up?
Thread posts: 765
Thread images: 239


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