/wowsg/ - World of Warships & Steel Ocean [& shipsluts]

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>>123518548

You forgot the tech tree links for curious anons.

STEEL OCEAN TECH TREES:

Germany: http://imgur.com/a/TDWY3
Burgers: http://imgur.com/a/Ze1j4
Japan: http://imgur.com/a/MzuNT

>>123518730

Whoops, sorry about that

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>>123517786
Actually I was playing Fallout New Vegas.

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>>123518820

Its okay.
Thanks for making the thread.

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>>123518734
That isnt Hotel dancing with a bunch of plates of food?

>>123518548
>pic shows two double guns on the front
>the ship in the game only has one double and one single

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>>123519513
>Pic also shows night battles.
>No night battles in one of the games

Turkey has been consumed.. time to sleep?

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>>123519513

The WoWS version is the pre-1941 modification, where it was rearmed with 8 4' DP's.

Any worthwhile Warships mods?

>>123519343
it's inazuma watching

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>>123520905
>Implying the dance is not in Inazuma's honour!

Does WoWs have locational damage? Am I supposed to be targeting specific parts of the ships?

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Meanwhile in SO I just took out the Mutsuki for the first time after ignoring DDs for 4 tiers.

5 kills, survived the battle, struck the killing blow on a BB to end the game. Only after the game was over did I realized she didn't even have commanders.

I know it was lucky but damn, girl.

>>123523343
With HE shells, just target wherever. With AP shells, try to hit their sides at a 90 degree angle and aim for the areas under turrets and smokestacks near the waterline. Those will net you citadel penetrations that do massive damage. Though destroyers don't have citadels, so always HE them. And obviously that means you should try your best to never fully expose your own citadel. A typical strategy is to angle in a way that you can sway your ass and bring all guns to bear to fire then tuck it back in to hide while you're reloading.

>>123518730
Jesus at this rate you SOfags should just get your own general.

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>>123523779
>sway your ass and bring all guns to bear to fire then tuck it back in to hide while you're reloading

What this anon forgot to mention, is that by following this strategy, you will either be closing on the enemy, or retreating from him. This will either draw you closer, and make you easier to hit (at the same time as pulling away from your backup, if theyve decided not to help you), or draw you away, and limit the time you have to shoot at your target, especially if your reload is slow.

In order to change course, you will have to broadside at some point - so time your enemies reloads, so they coincide with his optimum chance at hitting your citadel.

Or use cover when changing course.

In all cases, vary your speed, keep an eye on your allies, and constantly be aware of any terrain to use to your advantage

So far, I have played about a dozen games with the Warspite, and I haven't lost once.

Is this bote suppose to be the harbinger of doom?

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>>123524974

From what I hear, it burns to death really easily

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>>123523621

Yeah, she's a great ship! Lots of amazing things done with her stock, let alone fully built. (And without commanders? hehehe. Nice!)

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>>123523892

Now now, no need to be upset.

>>123522159
I like Ikazuchi most out of those four, she's got good spirit.

>>123523343
Well in a DD duel you can target their steerage/screws in theory if you're at close enough range. But at that range you should be more concerned with torps anyway.

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>>123525404
She is hilarious

SO looks like shit

>Cap a point
>Hit 2 torpedoes
>Team loses
>Still finish top
Such is the life of the Mutsuki.

>>123527234
Yes but it has subs
I may give it a try, despite having no serious complaints about WoWS, just for subs

>>123527726
Actually, I did it for that too. How does one get the Thanksgiving bonus?

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>>123527234
Well at two and a half times the size.. One would expect the larger one to look prettier than the smaller.. (Unless it is C.O.D. in which case it'd be anybodies guess.)

And graphics can of course be improved upon (HD texture packs such as the ones in tank games(WT,WoT,AW))

>>123528087
I believe they will be delivered in the next day or so.

>Fault line
>80% of the team throws them selves into the narrow corridor at C
>Literally fish in a barrel
>They circle around and pick everyone off

Are 99% of the players braindead people who just think shooting ships is all there is to this game?

>>123528320
yes

>>123528134
The base game for SO has crappy graphics but meatier content.
It can improve its graphics to look like WoWs.
WoWs on the other hand has much more dumbed down reliable gameplay thats easier to get into while looking much prettier.

SO needs to stop running like shit at high settings, then we can talk about graphics. Like in ultra mode it's not even that ugly, it's just that you'll be running at silky smooth 15 fps.

>>123528773
The ships also feel much better.
Granted controls can be improved and physics can be added to SO, the question is will the chinks do it. The graphics aren't the issue as much as the controls and feel of the game, and those are the points really holding SO back.

How do I get the new russian battleship? I see a lot of North american server people using it

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>>123528087
>>123528134
Screencap of the announcement.


>>123528963
check the premium store

>>123529004
>check the premium store
fuck that jew noise

>>123528943
Nah fuck off. The only thing that seems kind of wonky in SO is momentum and that's because wows makes everything weight a million tons to make up for their teeny tiny baby toy ships.

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>>123528943

Well that's the problem.
SO is a much faster game. With games rarely lasting beyond 10 minutes.
If you overall decrease the speed botes go, this just makes it easier for CVs to dominate and slows down the game entirely.

Coupled with the spotting ranges in SO, if every bote was slow then they would have to rework every single spotting mechanic in game ontop of reworking the maps.

Also on top of all this, the scale much different compared to WoWs, so it throws off many people. Coupled with to scale ship sizes will throw you for a loop. You then realize that some ships are really slow in comparison when your BB for example gets outplayed by a DD in CQC.
At higher tiers the game slows down a bit because you have to think about your actions but its not all complete run and gun. You die quickly that way.

>>123528320
It's alright if you want skirmishes in that channel
Massing your team over it is a disaster

>The christmas contest is a free Mikasa if you make and MAIL a physical tree ornament to wargaming

AHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAAHHAHDAHASHDHADAIBLEBFRFLBFVWL

>>123529127
It's almost like the ships in WoWS actually handle like actual warships that weigh tens of thousands of tons

>>123529316
Not talking about decreasing speed, just making ships overall slower to respond based on weight and engine power.

>>123529885
>Slavs are so jewish they won't buy their own tree ornaments.

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>>123529885
>physically mailing something to Russia

yeah no

>>123529885
If I mail them a gingerbread stalin will I get a year of premium?

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>>123530027

Again, Steel Ocean is a faster paced game. Ships are slower to respond based on their size. With DDs and subs being the most responsive. You learn the differences when you play them in game.
CVs and BBs handle like cement trucks compared to cruisers which handle like pick up trucks.
DDs are motorcross bikes and subs are 4 wheelers.

You learn this when you play the game and get used to it.
Yeah I want my botes to have slower start and stop times so it makes my life as a CV captain easier.
At the same time it would just make CVs in SO even stronger.

>>123529929
It's almost like WoWS makes a cartoony mockery out of ships' power and sizes so you feel like you are getting 'stronger' as you go up the tech tree.

>>123530396
and SO doesn't? the 127mm secondaries at tier 10 do more damage than the 305mm guns at tier 2

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if anybody is starting SO, feel free to whisper ShootMeDead
And we can wreak havoc upon low tiers!

>>123530637
Are you seriously comparing ships made thirty years apart.

>>123530102
it's na server only so you should mail it to their american office i suppose

also what's wrong with mailing to russia? it's not very expensive

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>>123525078
>tfw

>>123531178
doesn't matter, a 305mm gun should do more damage than a 127, no matter what

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T5/T6 division starting in Steel Ocean.

In WoWs, is there any reason at all to take the shitty aircraft setups on the Indy? I feel like strike loadout, like on the Bogue is retarded like what carrier sends out attack groups with no fighter cover? It's stupid as hell. I think the last time it was tried was a ton of B-52s and people buying into the hype thinking they didn't need escort, then something like 10% of them made it back.

So strike is worthless because it's so easy to get completely shut down by fighters. Then Anti Air loadout is too much escort for weak attackers being 1 bomber group. You're not capable of helping your team even if your clear the sky.

So I always take balanced group which Bogue didn't really have.

Am I doing this right? Am I missing something?

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>>123533036

>Actually playing CVs in WoWs
Anon, its time to let go.

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>played Tales of Zestiria
>completed twice with NG+ content too
>playing Fallout 4
>buggy and shit
>played Starcraft too
>almost wasted time
>comming back here
How much i will regret this?

>>123533350
Just learn manual bombing tovarisch :^)

>>123534085

Depends.
If you liked a rapidly dwindling population, a CV population on life support, BBs and DDs being even more prevalent, then this game is for you!

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>>123534243
Anon, i was grinding Krauts boats

>>123534243
Anon, I think you're mistaking DD's and BB's for CA's.

>>123533350
>>123534243
I don't get why people are shitting on CVs, it's still a fun and useful class to play.

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>>123534243
>CV population on life support

Compared to WoWs, the gameplay on SO falls behind spectacularly. For example, the speed of the boats in the two games is more or less the same, however, the size of the maps are very different, which leads to it being more of a speed game rather than a strategy game like it should be. Or at least, like it tried to copy from WoWs.

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>>123535620

It didn't copy WoWs anon.
It was out in China before WoWs even was in alpha. This game has been out for over a year.
Its WoT on water with Battlestations Pacific mixed in.

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>>123535620
was typing an explanation when Below, beat me to the punch in a short sweet, and to the point way.

see
>>123535916

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>>123536005

>Lupin the third
I approve.

>>123534683
come join us in ranked premier league where 50% of the players are Bensons and Kievs and every game is decided by them.

>>123536182
except it's decided by amagi

Do your ships get experience boosts on some sort of timer? Just started played WoWs a couple days ago, and I've noticed that usually the first time I sign on in a day my ships have an experience multiplier that goes away after a while, but the multiplier is back the next day.

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>When you've been playing these games for a little too long.

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whose poopdeck wud u sniff??

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>>123538254

How many CO points are there in total?

>>123538039

>Wait, when was the last time I ate an actual meal?
>I lost something important as a human being...

(:

that's how i felt when i began to take my anti-depressants btw, i briefly completely lost any desire to eat and the feel of hunger, so i forced myself to eat when i felt my stomach began to ache. was a pretty amusing overall, later the appetite mostly returned

>>123538942
18.. or .. 19 Think it is 19.

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>>123538254

>>123540787
http://exhentai.org/g/733624/9613ab3d8d/

>>123540956
>http://exhentai.org/g/733624/9613ab3d8d

Those faces are extremely annoying.

subs = evil

t. BB

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>>123538254

>My last game in the mutsuki
>I got a game I might actually submit to Jingles.

>>123541884
RARE BOTE BUTT
Who is she?

>>123542226
Wakaba

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>>123542226
Wakaba

>>123542226
Ugly, irrelevant DD.

>>123542423
what a slut
I already like her

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>>123542662
>You will never find a shipgirl confident enough to land a job at hooters with a figure like that, who daily competes against botes such as Kaga.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EioUJCiy7_Q

Shootmedead and Armyguy, thanks for the games in SO.
An absolutely outstanding 100 percent winrate while we div'd together.

I just had an epiphany.

Can BBs shave their reload time with the armament switch time CO skill?

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>>123544152

No? Maybe?
Like switching from one shell type, then back real quickly?
You should test it out. :^)

>>123544152
As in instead of waiting 30 seconds to reload, you switch immediately after firing to shave it instantly to 21?

destroyers are pretty fun to play

>stay outside of spotting range
>launch torpedoes
>receive kills with zero risk

does this keep going to tier 10?

>>123544685
You can't stay outside of detection range forever. People learn to turn before your torps even reach them.

Well, smart people anyway. And those are the ones you need to take down but can't. Killing retarded BBs wouldn't do your team much good.

>>123544685
Only in low tiers where everyone moves in straight lines.

And you can't stay undetected forever, gunboats and cruisers can hunt you down.

>>123544798
>Killing retarded BBs wouldn't do your team much good.

Sure it does. In domination the enemy team loses points and also your team is forced to fire on more important targets since the easy ones are dead.

Do the destroyers not get good until later on, or am I just shit? I can't do anything with this Watakate.

>>123544421
>>123544271
>>123544152
The skill supposedly only triggers when your shell is already loaded and you switch. I'm not sure if this includes queuing a shell type change and firing, but I doubt it.

>>123544421
Has anyone actually tried this before?

>>123545178
Until the Mutsuki, ijn DDs play pretty similarly, get the situation awareness Captain skill and find out generally at what range you might get detected, generally 6km in your case, your torps have 7, try to abuse that.

>>123545178
Tiers 3-5 are the golden period for japanese DD's. Shit becomes painful at 6.

Target battleships, only try to torp cruisers if there are no battleships in range. Try to torp from outside detection range so you don't clue anyone in that you're there. This is the big point. Any cruiser or battleship with half a brain automatically goes full stop and hard rudder the instant a DD is spotted.

Torpedoes are basically retard removal, and Japanese destroyer playstyle is completely different to every other ship.

>>123545178
Depends what style of DD you actually like, Jap ones are pure torpedo sluts, slavs are gunbotes, never played the US one but I think it's the middle ground.

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dead game

>>123544685
No.

as you get higher in tiers you get worse while the enemy gets better.

most of your torpedoes will be in the 7-9 max range with 50-68kts. The best torpedoes in the game only have 67kts with a range of 20km, but your enemy has 11.28 seconds to react.

at 2.10km.

11.28 seconds to impact at 2.10km. If they move even slightly to the left or right or slightly slow down before that, they won't come close.

>>123548286
Don't forget that it takes ~27s for the 67kn torps to reach 5km.

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This thing is a fucking beast, I love it. Every hit is a citadel.

>>123548563
>that filename

>>123548645
>Caring about filenames
I got it off their site, you autistic piece of shit.

>>123548286
Wow that's really bad. So I should stop levelling IJN DDs?

>>123548678
you got triggered for no reason and you have no idea what i was implying

now.. what type of people get triggered for no reason? autists?

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>>123548645
>Giving a shit about filenames.

>>123548737
until wg gets their head out of their ass and stop catering to babbies and cvnts, yeah.

>>123548779

>WG
>Catering to CVnts
What.

>>123548737
You can still have fun in jap DD's as long as you play your own game and stop caring about your winrate. Even when you torp 5 battleships and deal more damage than the rest of your team combined you cannot carry them when it really matters and shitters will steal carry you into losses through no fault of your own.
Playing jap DD's past tier 5 are like this
When things work out, they work out well, but when things don't work out for you big guys crash the bote with no survivors.

>>123549403
That's what I was doing on my Isokaze basically.

I can get at least a kill a game but when it comes down to the clutch I'm pretty useless.

>>123523892
all three of them ?

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Corvettes when?

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Rip

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>>123534243
>CV population on life support
The second I played a CV in 0.4.0.1 I knew it would go the way of the arty in WoT with "rebalances".
All these WG fuckers need to do is to change the manual drop mechanics, so that CVnts cant drop torps 500m from you from both sides.

>>123550242
whats it like being full of shit

>>123550242
Aside from manual drop mechanics they need to revamp carriers entirely, down to the useless flight control choices and NATIONAL PECULIARITIES. They can't bandaid CV's, they have to rebuild them from the ground up.

>>123550543
what do you mean ? please elaborate

>>123542423
>You'll never choke wakaba to orgasm

>>123550620
>NATIONAL PECULIARITIES
like how early american torpedoes were complete shit ?

>>123551649
National peculiarity is the most obvious in DDs.

>>123550910
i mean you're full of shit and everything you said is completely bullshit to compensate you as a shitter

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>>123551784
nice points you have there

>>123552056
your point is?

all you did is spout bullshit to compensate your shitty skill level.
fucking autist hipsters

>yeah bro i played this game really long time ago at patch 4.0.1 and i could predict everything, you just gotta believe me

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>>123552162
>shitty skill level
>autist
>hipster
Projecting much ?

also
>0.4.0.1
>long time ago
LOL

>>123552428
you know man, i played in the early days of closed beta and i could tell that cruisers would be fucking broken and put everything else on life support because when i played hashidate for the second time, i just realized everything what would happen to the game and here we are today

much amaze much autism

>>123552785
keep it up man, I'll get the popcorn
this shit is hilarious

>>123548563
> Soviet flag
> Emperor Nikolai I

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I'm really liking being a napalm hose as Kyma right now but I noticed from Furutaka onwards they're all heavy cruisers with slower rate of fire, is there a drastic difference in playstyle?

Incidentally should I switch to Nazi botes if I want to keep the CL playstyle?

>>123554685
Mogami starts as a light cruiser again and can be upgraded to a heavy cruiser.

Japanese cruisers have amazing HE because #remembertsushima
I've one-shot destroyers in my myoko with a full salvo. The Furutaka has a bit of a learning curve but the Aoba kind of feels like a middle point between light and heavy.

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>>123554685
I'm at Myoko and the playstyle is similar to Furutaka aka your guns cant keep up with any fast turns.
Dont get me wrong, they're all great (maybe except the taco) and I've had some of my best games in the Aoba.
The american cruisers at tier 4 - 6 are great CL's, cant talk about later tiers because I have no experience with them.

The german tier 4 sucks donkeyballs, but after that you get a 16.5 km range with a reload around 6 seconds. Shame that their HE shells suck for some reason.

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>>123555136
>Shame that their HE shells suck for some reason.

They make up for it for having great AP though.

With as shit as the Karl is, it can still pump out respectable damage with its AP. Its just not enough to keep it alive, or make it bearable

>>123555242
they should just switch the tier 4 with the tier 3, problem solved

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>tfw playing ranked and enemy team says "wp" specifically to you only and i can only flame them

the moment you realize how fucked up your personality is, you start to consider suicide

>>123555531
wp - well played ? and that makes you angry ?
if yes, then you're worse than the mexican faggots that spam their monkey language in chat on the NA server

>>123555627
no i mean i flamed them in previous matches and they're being nice to me

>>123555659
please consider killing yourself

>>123555136
I like it when the ship is responsive aka good maneuverability and turret turning. I figure if I used the Furutaka and above I wouldn't be able to efficiently use the turret traverse Captain skill. Hence why I was thinking of the Nazi cruisers since they have fucktons of spammy under 15cm turrets.

>>123555242
So I would basically have to use AP on everything but DDs?

>>123555740
no my friend, you need to fuck off because you're a shitter

>>123555849
>ship is responsive aka good maneuverability and turret turning
have you tried non-IJN destroyers ?

>>123556279
Haven't touched US or Germany, only doneIJN and slavs.

>>123556515
Situation awareness or basic firing training for german cruisers?

>>123557420
both

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tfw it took me 3 hours to get rank 4

fuck this bs game

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>>123557837
how bad are the teams at tiers 7-8 ?

>>123558065
why would it be bad?

>>123558105
because any shitter can get carried to rank 10 and they can't lose that rank

>>123557686
Would I have enough for both?

>>123558306
so get to rank 5 and play with 1-5 ranks

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German CV when?

Summonning Anu

>>123554685
You will have to deal with slow ass turret until you get to Mogami

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this is creepy

>>123562862
lmao

>>123562023
German cruisers it is then. Just got to the Dresden, just how strong is their AP? I tried using it on a Kawachi but it just dealt scratches, same thing with an enemy Kolberg.

>>123563187
It can penetrate fellow cruisers with easy
Spam HE against BB as usual

>>123564039
Only cruisers of equal tier or less?

>>123564158
Any cruiser that turn broadside to you, especially Kuma

>>123564921
But like I said, I spammed it on a Kolberg's broadside non stop and only got scratches out of it. I was in the Dresden.

>>123565358
I'm not sure about AP rounds on early tier ship
But I can do that constantly with Konigsberg

What is the most fun bote in WoWS and why is it Minekaze?

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>tfw one win away from rank 3

>>123562862
did u fug
lol rofl lmao

>>123548563

So it's worth the $20 shekels?

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>>123561557

I'm awake and in game.

>>123569043
omw

Strait is such a horrible map, it's liteerally spawn and just shoot each other dead.

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>>123572194
> spawn and just shoot each other dead.

>>123562862
Maybe you should stop shittalking all the time, Goldberg.

Why is Mutsuki such an enormous steaming turd?

Minekaze was a floating genocide, but Mutsuki struggles to maintain a 1-1 K/D ratio. Is it the shitty torpedo speed? Is it the fact she only fires once a minute? Is it her shitty handling and inadequate armament?

3x2 is FAR better than 2x3.

>>123529054
ONE SHEKEL TO RULE THEM ALL, ONE SHEKEL TO FIND THEM
ONE SHEKEL TO BRING THEM ALL AND IN THE DARKNESS BIND THEM

Kolberg is sooooo slowwww

>>123548563
>2 turrets right next to the engine
I get the feeling you just need to aim near the middle of that boat and it'll wreck itself

>>123575164
get used to her, Mustuki isn't that terrible compared to Hastu,Fubuki and Kagero.

>>123576869
Whats wrong with Fubuki?

>>123577225
She was a shitty MC

>>123577225
Being a tier8 DD

>>123577484
You mean you think it should be lower tier for its performance?

Domination has to be the shittiest mode next to Encounter.

>Hurr what's that you guys are stomping them?
>Durr let's make it so one straggler can win the game

>>123577878
No, it's just IJN DDs get more unreliable the higher tier they are.
After Minekaze only Shimakaze with all the camo bonus can be half reliable

SO fleet battles when?

>>123577353
u wot m8

>>123578290
Tonight in like six and a half hours, I think? The ingame event tab shows the time according to your timezone.

>>123578430
>10AM

time to go to sleep then

see you guys in a bit

>>123578197
Unreliable in what way? What does the Shimakaze do better than the others besides have a lot more torps?

The only problem I see with higher tier IJN DDs is the hidden stat that lets torps be detected from farther away. But even then, if a BB see's them coming, I can still land 2+ on one using my Fubuki if I lead them properly.

>>123578906
>Unreliable in what way? What does the Shimakaze do better than the others besides have a lot more torps?
Exactly, Shimakaze is a 41kn ship with 3x5 fast long range high alpha torps.
All tier6-9 IJN DDs have less, slower, lower range torps and since mid/high tier torpedo boats playstyle is based on luck mostly Shimakaze has more chance to do something than a top tier Hastu, Kagero and Fubuki

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Skinning is F-U-N

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>>123579967
>no ragnite radiators at the top of the smokestacks

fucking dropped

>>123580595
You can't skin that bit.

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>>123580870
next you're going to say that you can't mod in a victory pose after you murder someone

>>123579967
>>123580595
>>123581125
There is this one music track in WOWS that sounds like just ripped from VC.

When I first heard it I actually thought they stolen it from japs.

>>123582413
which one?

>>123582447
I never bothered to check the name

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>>123582549
well I'm looking through the soundtrack right now

>>123582413
is this it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgPUEt5_dyc

>>123583459
Middle part sure sounds like it

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>buy Imperator Nikolai I like a good goy
>It's basically a New Mexico at Tier 4
>Abuse tier 6s
>Slav Bias Intensifies

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in an attempt to remain off topic

>Last month, series publisher Sega filed trademarks in both Japanese and English for Valkyria: Azure Revolution. No further details were disclosed then, other than the fact that the trademark referred to a video game.

People who said the Myoko is good must only have the luck use it in very specific situations.
Otherwise it's mediocre at best.
You cannot use anything but your front two guns less you want to expose your side to bring your other guns, and torps, to bear. And good luck with that. Swing the ship around to broadside and you're going to be lit ablaze by HE or destroyed by AP citadel hits.
It's like the Aoba before it, but with the fatal mistake of making you think you can do more with your increased weaponry. And then when you fall for that trap you pay for it.

>>123584898
Sounds like most CAs

>>123584898
But you will get the best CL/CA in the game if you get past that.

>>123584307
>Goth lolis in goth loli costume in the middle of a battlefield
>Glowing melee swords prove superior against ranged weaponry
>Spider mech
It looks disappointing so far. Looks and feels more like a Tales-of-X game than Valkyria chronicles. I mean, it might sell more if it tries to be more like any other run-of-the-mill JRPG, but it sure as hell lost my interest in the franchise.

A shame, since it's one of the best recent entirely-new franchises. It was truly painful to see it being underused, mishandled and mismanaged.

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>>123555531
>>123555659

Thar' be power in them thar' words.

>>123572194
well Anon, if I was in game, they'd be shooting me dead, ShootMeDead.

>>123575164
because WG decided to make her stock shit.
6.6km detect with 6km torpedoes.. so that you get a taste of what it was like to play american DD's... except your guns traverse is so slow it'd make some BB's grimace. You have 1 AA now apparently with two guns that have .9km range to AA-meme those planes that almost crash into you! (CBT wasn't that low)

Once she gets her 10km torpedoes/2nd-hull she isn't that bad as long as nothing major has changed since CBT.

Now based on CBT, normally I would say get the -Detonation chance module, and +AA damage/range and become an AA boat in your spare time in that window of experience between between hull 2, and not-shit-torps.(Which is now fucking 4k?!)

However: CV's seem to be more rare (And XP gains lowered, costs raised.) so perhaps ^ doesn't work anymore? I am not quite to my own Mut's 2nd hull to properly test.
Island camp, or play like a shitty gunboat beside your allies I guess?

>>123544685
yes, it's how ijn dd play till t10

>>123590207
>>Once she gets her 10km torpedoes/2nd-hull she isn't that bad as long as nothing major has changed since CBT
m8, it takes a full minute for the torpedoes to hit at max range. It's virtually impossible that someone won't have turned in that time.

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>>123591648
the point is the 10km torps have the option to kill people from outside your detection range..

I hated the 7km's on minekaze (Compared to 10km CBT) because I couldn't provide the same area denial/support, or attack targets moving away from me without getting dangerously close to being seen. I played like a spotter who happened to have high powered relatively inaccurate nukes. I was there to shepherd the enemy into traps, force broadsides to be exposed, keep the enemy lit for my allies to murder them, AND occasionally get a hit (With Minekaze having 3 sets, steering the enemy fleet wasn't too difficult, Mut with two.. is very tricky.)

The Mutsuki with 6km torps means you have been seen for .6km if they are traveling side-ways, have to be closer than 5km(speculating, could be higher/lower) to hit if they are running from you, and can only fire 'safely' if they are heading right towards you (which leaves a tiny ship profile to attempt to torp/aim-at)

10km's mean you have wiggle room without being nuked. (Also minekaze and mutsuki in CBT had 5.8km detect, so the Mut was at least invisible for .2km of your torp range.)

Basically if the xp gain mechanics from Steel Ocean, or World of Tanks were in WoWS, IJN DD would have a much easier time.
(Light up targets for the entire match with little to fear from anything except other Minekaze/Muts/Iso's.. or planes, which are/were easier to dodge than people think.)
screenshot included to provide example of SO's xp gain options, and my Minekaze CBT stats to show I'm not 100% talkin out my ass.)

>>123575164
Triple launchers have the same spread as quads and quints. The slow torps, bad reload, and poor gun-fighting ability dont help but the real problem is just how much space triple launchers provide beyond 7km.

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>>123551152

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How do I win in Steel Ocean? I'm around 55% in WoWS but I couldn't manage to carry in the chink game if my life depended on it.

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Its finally over.

>>123599937
that looks like you didn't do too badly.
Ensuring low hitpoints people are nuked to stop them from shooting your allies.

Looks more like your team might have just attempted to zerg, and just effectively 'funneled' to their deaths one or two at a time. (or, the enemy advanced and created an effective wall. 'camping' your spawn.)

>>123601384
ENVY

>>123590207

mutsuki has dual-purpose guns so her aa is decent

also it's just tier 6, it's not hard to upgrade her torpedoes playing pve or with the free exp

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>>123601384
What a sleek bote.

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>>123601874
The best

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>>123602003
Those lines are perfection.

>>123599937
Your damage is miserably low, shows you sniped more kills rather than actually contributed.

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MUUUH DIIICK

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2nd battle. FreeXP'd the engine and rangefinder. Stock hull.
Colorado is pretty fun so far.

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>>123602003
The QTest DD after Bucky.

Can't wait for her to be added to WoWS.

>>123604162
so never?

>>123601384
she looks like some coast guard patrol boat
chinks cannot even graphics...

>>123604162
Is it wrong that I prefer Akizuki over Teruzuki?

>>123584898
Myoko's strength is in her AA and torps. Her guns are, as you pointed out, actually worse than Aoba, because #3 turret is utterly useless and her reload is actually slower. Aoba is a more fun ship to play offensively, but Myoko really needs a BB to escort IMO. Her AA is - astonishingly - even better than her American counterpart at the same tier.

I'm on Myoko now and I agree with you on most all counts. All she can really do is protect bigger ships from air units and HE spam BBs if you correctly time broadsides with enemy reloads. In a straight gunnery duel with basically any other cruiser, she's SOL.

For also those reasons I also rebought Aoba for fun / matchmaking, just because her performance is so consistent

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For those times you absolutely have to kill absolutely everyone, there's always Nagato.

inb4 killsteal

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>>123604561
It's not wrong.

Actually, it's the only right thing to do.

>>123604983
Myoko can actually put a lot of shells on target, you just have to turn away from the enemy, so that your retardedly placed #3 turret can work.
Get the rudder shift time upgrade, and keep waggling your ass, you can actually zig-zag between salvos.

As you say, the best place to be is supporting a BB.
But do not underestimate your gun power, you just have to be careful about it.

>>123606391
>not wanting both

pls

goddammit just drop for me please ;_; i don't want to drown in all these trophy BBs

>>123601384
>that gold

show me your secrets, master

>>123610226
I got it for free, by some stupid eventsseriously

>>123610337
>thanksgiving login
>login

>nothing happens

;_;

>>123606840
What are the best mods for Myoko? I'm thinking Main Battery mod 1, AA Guns mod 2, Propulsion mod 1, and obviously Steering Gears mod 2. Is that about right?
Captain skills would also be nice to go over, just to be sure.

>>123611080
Well, here's my captain skills for the guy I've been using since Furutaka:
>the tier 1 damage control skill
>the turret rotation skill
>the tier 3 damage control skill (gained before the AA barrage became a limited consumable)
>the 20% range on AA and guns under 155mm skill

Looking back, I'm thinking that the tier 3 superintendent skill might have been a better choice, but I'm not sure if I want to go beyond Mogami or not. I plan to get the tier 5 visibility decrease skill next, I've got two points left to gain.

>>123610226
play a match(or matches) with an elite ship, any tier. 300-400 ish,
(Look at events list button.)
Will also be getting some from the thanksgiving event in the next day or so.

The daily events:
Nuke 3 Americans for 50% of the cost of a new commander.
And
Win two matches with a T3 or higher elite (fully upgraded) ship for 50,000 silver
Are quite nice.
Along with the daily injection of 2k+ free xp for ranking between 1st and 3,000th place for kills.

Weekly/monthly events:
15 wins in a week for 3 commanders.
100g and a day of premium for signing in two days in a row.
Sign in 20 days in a month and get a pretty good commander (rotates each month.)
>>123611072
>Devs posted when the thanksgiving log in was announced "Will be delivered in 2 days"
So you'll get it soon.

>>123611387
>superintendent on a CA captain
I don't see the point. I'm never attacked by aircraft often enough to need more than three AA charges, and I never get my fighter destroyed more than once.

In BB it's nice because in a long game it's basically free health and in a DD I consider it absolutely mandatory

>>123611647
Unless the port display is wrong, Myoko only gets 2 charges of Defensive AA Fire

>>123611647
You need it at tier IX-X for an extra heal

>>123562862
bet you don't have friends IRL too

>>123611387
>>the 20% range on AA and guns under 155mm skill
Fair enough, but +fire chance is great on Aoba, since it pushes her to a 20% chance of starting a fire with HE

>Decide to get my cleveland captain a 3x in my arkansas
>After defending against some torpedo bombers at the start the enemy team dies so fast I couldn't get any shots in.
Should have just taken the torps desu. At least I wouldn't have wasted a 3x then since I'd have been able to shoot shit.

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>Start match in Sub
>Critical error to desktop the moment I see my sub.
>RAGE!!.jpg
>Get back in and two allies are dead.
>See an ally spotted a SS right near cap right before it nuked him.
>Launch a torp or two that direction as I move to intercept.
>Torps miss, but cause the SS to adjust course giving me a broadside to plant two into her stern.
>KILL
>Immediately notice two enemy SS spotted by the BB they are assaulting to the west.
>Fire off three and head over
>Two actually hit.
>KILL!!!
>Lose sight of the I-19 who'd been farther back.
>Turn around to defend base from any comers.
>About to come up for air because why not.. just a CA,BB, and that I-19 left, and my ally is somewhere in the east heading west like the settlers.
>WILD AOBA APPEARS as I quickly mash escape to stop surfacing.
>Fire off two torps
>HIT HIT, NOT DEAD!
>Too close to use torps
>Surface, and laugh as she launches her full load of torps right onto my face.. but she's shootin blanks today..
>Cannon comes around, POP POP and she's going down into the depths.
>Feeling very.. VERY good right about now.
>Two enemies now. Ally is taking out the BB and I spot the I-19.
>We face each other down and let loose our torps at each other
>DODGEx6 on both sides!
>Our eyes meet as we stare at each other from across the gap that is now too close to torp each other.
>The mood is right...
>Rush up and slide side by side against each other, she's movin... I'm moving, Can't go anywhere.. Wouldn't go anywhere even if we could
>Allies on both sides going "WTF IS GOING ON?"
>Going at it like there is no tomorrow..
>Suddenly Oxygen Klaxon goes off. 20s left.
>Know I've got to go, but not wanting to let her slip away.
>Set all engines to MAX and slap that surface button hard.
>Rising to the surface in 5,4,3
>out of oxygen in 7,6,5
>Instead of rising to the surface, sudden "KILL" flashes across screen.
>The force of our coming to the surface literally ripped us apart.

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>>123617529
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqkwykA4iFw
>Definitely started playing at ">the mood is right."

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>>123617529
Too long. Nobody cares.

Post yfw you die 5 minutes in for trying to push a flank and force it to crumble because the top tier battleshhip with you turned around to snipe and ended the game doing less than you.

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It just a good, solid ship.

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>>123617963
I know.
TL;DR point at ">DODGEx6 on both sides" Just entertaining.

>The match before SS on SS action.
>Also a DC/Crit-error at start


Amazing how they gather in such nice packs.
>One escaped, one was taken by an ally after torps hit.
>This was after nuking their CV's and a CA

Subs are very entertaining.

someone post botebutt pls

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>>123619912
BOTE
BEARING
HIPS

>25 hits with Myogi across various targets
>overpen
>no damage
>no damage
>overpen
>only 2 citadel pens
>against a st louis

What the fuck, I've hit this Whyoming 15 times, why can he get citadel pens yet I get fucking overpenetrations every fucking time.

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>>123620818
Make way. Most fecund ships coming through.

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seriously, wg
2 south carolinas, kuma and phoenix on my team when i queue for a kiev game?
and they don't even understand why i call them retards

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>>123621459
>tfw I have no bow or stern profiles of Yamato

reeeeee

>>123621149
Is this problem exclusive to the Myogi or are all BBs this bad? I'm stuck at the Myogi and after grinding once for Houshou, I can barely stand to use it anymore, just gonna get 20k of free xp for Kongou.

>>123622391
Don't. Fully upgraded myogi is pretty good. You're going to want to save your free xp to avoid the stock kongo grind

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Hotel: Literally, the QTest.

>>123622493
I already have all the Myogi upgraes save the rangefinder because I'm going to hit fuckall from firing at that range anyways.

High Alert or Superintendent for IJN BBs?

And is basic firing training worth it for them? Should I go with Basics of Survivability instead?

>>123620818
>>123622554
both shit tbqhfams

>>123623212
Who called the pleb patrol?

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Hotel: Literally, a beauty.

>>123623650
>>123623795
I don't know, what are you doing here?

>>123622603
DDs kill me, CAs have a good chance of burning me to death, I only stand a chance against BBs.

>>123623904
Sounds like every battleship then.

>Be Myogi
>Knifefight other Myogi near my team
>Teammates just fuck around and watch
>Two of my turrets perma break

Battleships are just so bad.

if you could make any type of boat with anything on it, what would you create?

hardmode:It has to actually have an ability to float

>>123625375
A kawaii yandere onee-san with a feminine dick

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>>123625782
I didn't know you could float anon

>>123625847
Fat floats.
Tenryuu is most buoyant bote

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>"PCEC005_Camo_NY_3": {
"GSIdealRadius": 1.0,
"GSMaxDist": 1.0,
"GSShotDelay": 1.0,
"PMDetonationProb": 1.0,
"afterBattleRepair": 1.0,
"burnTime": 1.0,
"camouflage": "camo_new_year_1",
"canBuy": true,
"collisionDamageApply": 1.0,
"collisionDamageNerf": 1.0,
"costCR": 0,
"costGold": 30,
"creditsFactor": 1.0,
"expFactor": 2.0,
"floodTime": 1.0,
"hidden": false,
"id": 4289654704,
"index": "PCEC005",
"name": "PCEC005_Camo_NY_3",
"regenerationHPSpeed": 1.0,
"shootShift": 1.04,
"speedCoef": 1.0,
"typeinfo": {
"nation": "Common",
"species": "Camouflage",
"type": "Exterior"
},
"visibilityFactor": 1.0,
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},

I hope you gentiles enjoy the generous 100% XP boost and 4% enemy accuracy reduction for the low price of 30 gold per game

>>123626228
>camo_new_year_1
So it's a temporary premium camo pattern just like their Halloween camo pattern. Big deal.

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>>123626228

Meanwhile, Steel Ocean has ship skins that cost gold but are permanent and give a boost to detection rating and come in various patterns of your choosing. Ontop of this you have the ablitity to fit custom flags or any listed nation's flag on there as well.

>>123619223

Abrach, why are you still playing this dead game? :^(

>>123626743
>paying 30 gold per battle for a christmas/new years gift
no thanks

>>123626228
ordinary -4% enemy accuracy camo with +100% xp boost

>>123627236
>It's a gift
LOL
I suppose you think the Halloween one was a "gift" too

Is there really a good way to use the Myogi? It's accuracy is so shitty even perfectly lined shots miss.

>>123629191
And even when they hit they deal shit damage, why even give them 30 second cooldowns then, thee's no reward for the shit you have to go through to hit shit anyways.

>>123625375

animal/robot ears animal/robot tail with a cute bow

>>123629390
>>123629191
The Myogi is just straight up bad.
It's the same with the other low tier BBs that people have to grind though. You just have to put up with it until you get to the Kongo, which is where things improve.

So do German AP shells really work on Cruisers? Sure I seem to do more damage, but I think I've never seen a citpen yet.

>>123631087
German AP gets cit pens at extreme ranges due to plunging fire (rarely) and at ranges below 8km (all the time).

My tactic with German cruisers is to use terrain to get within 8km of another cruiser and then unleash hell. A normal game for me is 6-8 cit pens with the Konigsberg.

>>123631087
You still have to wait until enemy turn broadside. That is your golden chance to score citadel
I could get like 5 Citadels per salvo if I was brawling at 6 km

>>123631583
I'm still in the Kolberg though, maybe I'm just not hitting them in the right places.

>>123631087

yeah, but it chooses when it wants to be effective theres no reasoning with it, its fucking stupid

is it just me or are german cruisers made of kindling ive been lit up at least twice a match its starting to get annoying

>>123631980
>kolberg

No, just spam HE in the Kolberg, don't bother with AP unless they are giving your their broadside at very close range. That being said you can use your AP to delete DDs rather quickly if you are confident about hitting, the 105mm shells often won't overpenetrate and will actually do a considerable amount of damage.

>>123632436
German Cruisers have probably the weakest modules/turrets and and the most flammable decks in the game for some reason, just short of IJN DDs.

>>123632584

okay i thought it was just me being shit at this game halfway through the karlsruhe

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>>123626840
You can also buy them short term for 7 days using silver and get the same effect from the camo/flags

>>123632584
>Play konigsberg
>Every shot knocks out rudder or engine
It's like I'm actually driving the Tiger in WoT

>40 hits
>against other BBs literally broadsiding me as hard as they can
>no damage
>little damage
>no damage
>ricochet
>1 citadel penetration

Seriously, fuck the Myogi so hard.

>>123635956
I actually had a bit of fun with her. She seemed better as a DD killer as stupidly retarded as that sounds...

Load HE and wait for an ally (or you) to light up an enemy DD and wait for the inevitable broadside to fire.

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I will regret playing this shit again right?

>>123638157
how is that mod which changes your deck but doesn't touch the ship skins named?

>>123638519
what?

by deck i mean that carousel of the ships at the screen bottom... w/e you name it

>>123638602
It's default UI there

>>123638602
Kancolle ship icon from Aslain's modpack

>>123627038
Because it is fun? I still enjoy it a lot, and I didn't find Steel Ocean appealing or interesting enough.

It is a bit sad that none of the people I used to division with plays anymore.

>>123639260
ty

>over 3 minutes of queue at tier9
DeD GaMe

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those guys (girls?) from pravda really dislike american ships ;_;

also congratulate me, i got my very first arsonist achievement with kiev on fuso (fuso was the victim)

>>123643079
#rememberWWUU

I just tried Aslain's modpack and wow the quality of life changes really do make a difference.

>>123635801
ive gotten used to having the rudder busted whenever im under fire i just stop trying to dodge lest i get stuck in a circle due to the inevitable rudder break

moving in circle is actually a good way to dodge

>>123642321
For tiers 9-10 to not be dead wargaming has to either change the economy so that you don't lose half a million if you die, or implement clan wars so there are super serious clanwars fags to populate tiers 9 and 10.

>>123639390

does Chain even still play?

or did he sail off too that big type 59 in the sky?

Is there a reason to keep lower tier ships if you don't plan to convert xp?

>>123644583
For fun.
How low are we talking?

>>123644626
3 onwards? My highest is still tier 5.

>>123644583

except for fun they are useful for:

playing ranked, t5-6, t7-8 right now

grinding money for the higher tiers. for instance you can get enough xp to unlock a tier 8 ship not having enough money to buy it, the money are easier to earn with a tier 5-6 ship than with a tier 7 etc

>>123644803
Keep Tenryuu, Kuma, St. Louis for fun

If you're hurting for port slots don't bother keeping anything under 5 though.

>Still have to do New Horizon mission (2 kills and win)

CV is so fun on SO

>>123644949
I wish I could pay a Lexington to just sit planes over my cleveland so I can finish the kill 100 planes part of the cruiser thing.

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>>123644957
They're miracle of the universe

Thanksgiving rewards in SO are up. Just got mine

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>>123646196
No.

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>That one BB on your team that plays like a DD and skirts the sides of the map the whole game all the way to the enemy's cap
>Gets to cap, doesn't do evasive maneuvers, proceed to try and fight enemies around the area
>Dies anyways without achieving anything.

This shit triggers ms every time.