/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

>>123511941

Really late to the party here but I just beat DS1 for the first time today. What a game. Fucking pumped for DS3.

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You can't see Gwynevere's eyes in the game.

post ds2 sliders

>>123512163

I've only seen one, maybe two sets of DaS2 sliders posted. You might be out of luck here.

So, after DaS3 they're finally going to move onto something new? These games are getting really stale.

Why is Durability so low in DaS2, my mace is in danger after 50~ hits and I'm basically going bonfire to bonfire because if I don't all my shit breaks

Doing a "Ranger" style run with a bow weapon. So far using Composite bow. Bow is useful for:

>Asylum demon
>Quelaag
>Capra demon
>Taurus Demon
>Moonlight Butterfly

Not useful for:
>Bell Gargoyles

They're too fast to get many shots in, and then there's two of them. Totally chaoic fight, and I've never been good with them. Only fight that gives me trouble.

Bows are under rated, and a headshot will typically stun a boss.

>>123512749

What version are you playing? PS4 and uncapped PC versions have fast durability drain. PS3 is fine. Also consider yourself lucky, the durability used to be a lot worse before the softs release.

bloodborne sucks

>>123512919
Ukranians don't even have defining characteristics
that's like saying she looks white.

>>123512878
I'm on PS4, but I played the base game on PS3 and never had this issue.

Also holy shit, Drangleic Castle is great. Thank god I don't have to fight Freja, that bitch scared the shit outta me. Fuck you forever, spiders. The Mirror Knight is such a hype boss.

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>Feel sympathy for Fair Lady
>Join her covenant
>roleplay that I'm gonna save her
>Look around me
>see three dudes with parasite eggs in them
>remember the other member is a dude that invades people and kills them for humanity
>Name of covenant is "Chaos Servant"
>realize I might be a bad guy doing bad things for empathy

>>123513531
It's chaos servant because she's a chaos demon
That doesn't mean anything though
She's only sick because she sucked the blight from the citizens of blighttown.

>>123513531
Quelaag was gathering Humanity to help restore The Fair Lady's life, you realize. And Ceaseless Discharge was just defending their sister's corpse.

None of the Chaos Witch family except the mother did anything wrong. They're like Sif.

>>123514098
>Brown hair and eyes
Do you realize how common that is?

>>123514056
>>123513709

What's up with the dudes with parasite eggs on them? Did they willingly sign up for that?

Quelaag attacks you on sight. Not very nice. And the act of harvesting humanity implies killing and stealing it.

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>Playing Sotfs
>Constantly die to enemies
>Constantly die to falling off shit
>1-2 shot ever boss so far with no summon
>mfw

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>>123514197

Light skin, with slavic features and brown/brown combo? That's eastern Euros.

Other Euros have more diverse hair and eye colors.

Here we see a Kurdish girl. Brown/brown combo, but different skin tone and facial features.

>>123512749
they decided to make it count in this game but went overboard
you're supposed to visit a bonfire every 10 enemies or keep 2-3 upgraded weapons, it's retarded but it's like that

>>123514276
Yes, the willingly chose to bear her eggs after she cured them from the blight.
The guy next to her tells you she sucked the blight pus against her sister's orders
Quelaag is just protecting her home, she gives the humanity from the undead who tries to reach the bell of awakening to her dying sister as a bonus.
And also you could actually talk to the fair lady if you had picked the old witch ring in the character loading screen.

>>123514276
>What's up with the dudes with parasite eggs on them? Did they willingly sign up for that?

Harvesting Humanity, probably. And given one serves The Fair lady willingly, she probably eased their suffering too.

>Quelaag attacks you on sight. Not very nice. And the act of harvesting humanity implies killing and stealing it.

From immortal beings that wander into her domain. She's not ganking anybody, or killing anyone permanently.

>>123514560
>And also you could actually talk to the fair lady if you had picked the old witch ring in the character loading screen.

You can also trade the light hat for it too.

Speaking of, what's the fastest way to get 25 humanity to open up the path? I gave her 5 already.

>>123514670
Going hollow as an undead is a worse fate than death though. She's still not evil though.

>>123514762
Play through the game normally, you should have over 30 by the time you actually need to go there
Alternatively, famr the rats in the depths or the humanity phantoms from the dlc

What's the most active spot for dragon bros? I feel like actual PVP would be more interesting than farming drakes for an hour, unless it takes me an hour to get summoned.

SL 27 on PS3

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>>123518583
I would like to fight, but I'm at SL 90

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>>123518886
literally just danbooru m8

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>watching friend play DaS1 for the first time
>don't say shit about the first Black Knight
>don't say shit about Havel
>don't say shit about Demonic Foliage's grab attack

All around fun time.

Give me one good reason why I shouldn't just give myself 48 more Loyce Souls with CE instead of spending fucking days farming for them.
Seriously, what the fuck were they thinking with this? Sometimes I think I'm only a DaS2 defender because some of the absolutely HORRENDOUS game design can be bypassed with Cheat Engine.

>Fight Ceaseless discharge for the first time
>his attacks magically go through solid objects and giant rocks

Dumb.

>>123528256
all attacks do that though.

>>123528256
>your roll magically lets you pass through his attacks without taking damage
woah
it's almost like we're playing dark souls or something

>>123528317
>>123528389

It's a big fire attack. Solid objects should protect against that. How is fire going through rock?

>>123528502
>how is fire going through rock
i think you're underestimating the power of intense heat
also the "it's a video game, it works like that for gameplay purposes" applies
if his attacks didn't clip through walls you'd be able to effortlessly hide from him

So what am I supposed to do for this guy? died like 10 times and no strategy is really popping up.

>>123528743
>also the "it's a video game, it works like that for gameplay purposes" applies

I am using video game logic. By video game logic, I should be safe from such projectile attacks.

>if his attacks didn't clip through walls you'd be able to effortlessly hide from him

Then they should have changed the stage, or done something where the rocks are gradually heated up.

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Hey boys, nice thread.

Should I buy DS2 + DLC for $25 on steam or should I just wait for Bloodborne/DS3 to come out on PC?

>>123527693
It was fun when the dlc came out. Usually what they do is they give an alternative a few months later since the game isn't active anymore. Shame they threw away the game so quick.

>>123529208
>By video game logic
stop immediately
there is no universal video game logic
each game is designed within rules that suit that game

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>>123529238
>Bloodborne/DS3 to come out on PC

>>123529208
Wow, I can't believe nobody told you.

Trigger the boss to chase you and run back to the fog gate. See what happens to him

>>123529208
Here is a hint


Run away

>>123519654
Yes I remember 2014, too

>>123529238
Just wait, ds2 is total shit.

>>123529238

Refund it if you think it's bad.

I've been thinking about this for too long, who the fuck is on the cover of SotFS?

>>123530813
a forlorn, right? I thought it was aldia at first (hell, i thought the ancient dragon was aldia before scholar)

>>123531421
Oh they're only in SotFS, that's why I had no idea. Also, everyone thought he was Ancient Dragon. don't feel bad

>died again because I jumped when I wanted to roll

LAME

Whoever decided that jump should be dash + roll should be shot. I've died so many times from this.

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>invade estoc user
>alt f4

>>123532391
It's fixed in the later games. So just suffer now and get through it

>>123532391
>sprinting in cqc
dunnno why would you do such a thing, running isn't what you would use in battle

>>123463256
>>123514762
Dupe fire keeper soul

I never truly had fun in dark souls until I started giving less of a shit and actually participated in jolly co-operation/invasions/online play in general.

Now I can't put this shit down, even farming iron golem for medals with random anons is fun.

can i still do old monk invasions even after i beat him in my own world?

>>123534302
>Dupe fire keeper soul

why?

What part(s) of DS/DS2 made you ragequit the game for an extended period of time?

DS1--Anal Rodeo rooftop archers
DS2--frozen loyce gauntlet to reach Lud/Zallen + the actual fucking fight

>>123535443
Infinite humanity

>>123535646
Capra Demon on my first play through of DS1. The fact that I was a sorcerer didn't help either.

>>123535646
Bed of Chaos before I knew what the fuck I was supposed to do
>enter fight
>pushed into hole
>enter fight
>smacked twice, dead
>repeat 30 times

I'm trying to use cheat engine to make my game ng+3. I input 3 and check the boxes but nothing changes. How is it done?

built my entire build around a weapons dropping
it didnt drop
any way to glitch or hack it in on ps3?

>>123537598
>built my entire build around a weapons dropping

nigga why

>muh build

try to be more flexible

>>123537690
for fun

would lessen the fun

>>123537796
what weapon? what game?

>>123535646
When I first played DaS2, the pursuer.

>>123537826
barbed straight sword, das1

>>123538097
>barbed straight sword
The only possible way you want to hack it in is because it messes up your fashion. Just get the dark sword or something that will go with whatever you wanted with the barbed sword.

>>123538285
its not about practicality, its about a themed build which is fun.

it what you need after 3 years of playing.

>>123538407
We'll if that's it, you're going to have to figure this out on your own. Good luck

They say the Old One was placed there by God in case he wanted to erase existence or something. That's how I got it.

>>123535646

Demon souls - 1-4 trying to get past the blue dragon
Dark souls - Gargoyles and Seth on my first playthrough when he managed to curse me.
Dark souls 2 - Shrine of amana

>>123535646
Capra Demon was kinda bullshit the first few times I fought him till I found out about the stairs.

Farley and Spade were really starting to piss me off. Ornstein always fucked up my rolls or randomly stabbed me from behind Smough. It was really just getting invaded everytime I tried to regain my humanity to summon Solaire. I never, ever, made it to the fog gate without being invaded by a Dickwraith.

In closing, fuck Arnor Londo.

>>123529238
>Bloodborne to come out on PC

>>123537598
start again
lower burg skip->use firebomb trick to kill capra->kill kirk

who made the first flame? who made the dragons?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m1Zd__VMqg

I'm skipping around, but he's not showing his build. how did he get his composite bow to be so strong?

>>123543757
Red tearstone ring

>>123543757
Lobos is known for cheesing with the red tearstone ring like a little bitch.

>>123544059
>>123543989

he used that early game, but later game he's doing hundreds per shot and I never got that much with my bow.

How to get 30 petrified dragon bone before getting to Aldia's to farm it?

I want to play dual mytha's but they're shit without being +5 and I don't want to waste souls leveling other weapons I won't be using in the end.

>>123544317
>dual mytha's

>>123545012
Rude. Powerstanced with Flynn's, RoB and Stone Ring makes them quite deadly.

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>Tanimura-san, so we made animations for mace weapons, there will be a second long delay before attack animation starts and actually deals damage, we thought it's important since the reach on the weapon is really poor, so you'll have to pretty much hug the enemy to actually hit it. Oh, and we decided to give it as a starting weapon to a class with no poise, armor or enough strength to wield the weapon effectively.
>Yeah, sounds good.

>>123544317
leveling up 1 weapon for pve isn't going to blow out your sm. the sm range is huge at higher levels. unless youre planning to twink.

does longsword counter bonus only work if you use the r2 thrust attack?

>>123545309
get gud shitter powerstancing mase is broken as hell

>>123537305
Anyone?

>>123545963
I'm on my phone so I can't show you but assuming you have the specific DARKSOULS.ct Cheatengine there is a setting for it that works just fine.

>>123546404
That's what I'm using, I checked the boxes after putting in '3' and nothing changed.

>>123535646
Things that have made me ragequit in Sotfs:
Vengarls body
Shrine of amana
and the one i'm currently stuck at, the ivory king fight.
Fuck that having to kite for ages while they close the portals.
By the time the ivory king actually shows up i'm already down to like 2 estus flask charges

>>123546762
Get a loading screen and attack an enemy he should be stronger than before.

>>123546854
Doesn't loading into the game count as a loading screen? Btw, do I have to keep it on the whole playthrough?

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Mods for SOTFS when?
FUCKING NEVER.

Is there any reason to use faith in DaS 2 during PVE or should I just go quality? On one hand attack spells are nerfed but I figured the boost to lightning/fire damage would make it worth using fire and lightning infused crossbows for ranged instead of spells

>>123547008
It would be most effective to be a spellsword. Infuse with lightning, buff with sunlight blade, etc. Pure spells are a no no.

>>123547003
Seriously it would be awesome if people made SotfS updates

>>123546953
M8 I think I know what you're doing wrong now.
You need to make the character and while playing him you need to alter the save to be NG+3

Can someone post the weapon tier list for DS2? Trying to think up weapons I haven't used before but can still get me through the game.

>>123546953
And no you can change the NG level if you want to make the game harder/easier.
If I remember correctly you should get the Estus Flasks BEFORE you change the NG+ because otherwise you don't get the Flasks.

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>>123547274
I just want my texture replacers back, please god.

Have they hinted at what kind of damage formula they're going for in Dark Souls 3 ?

I grew to loathe the formulas of DaS1, and while the DaS2 ones aren't perfect I ended up finding it much preferable to its predecessor.

>>123545309

you bad or something ? mace is great
try not swinging like a retard maybe, people used to longswords usually have a hard time transitioning into actual skill based weapons

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>>123547274
Right now I'm in blight town trying to change it. I'll see how it goes but I'm pretty sure I've already done that.

>>123547404
Yep, already got it.

>>123545279

Its kind of annoying that playing an assassin style character pretty much always takes 3 of your ring slots.

>>123547708
>DS2
>skill
That's not how you say "luck", anon.

>>123547785

please explain what luck could possibly be involved into chosing when to swing your weapon

>>123547897
>what luck could possibly be involved when you're swinging a weapon at enemies with shitty hitboxes
Lost of it.

>>123547404
Works now, I'm being gravelorded already. Cheers.

>>123548080

The hitbox perfectly matches the animation and weapon model anon

Using shortsword + 8 now.

Doubt I should be using a starting weapon mid-game. I've rung the bells and have just been running around. What should I move to?

I'm low level dex build.

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>>123548134
Sure it does. Enemy shield hitboxes are also 100% perfect.

>>123548187

Proof that they aren't ?

The only seemingly bad hitbox in the entire game is the character rolling because the animation doesnt properly convey where the character's hitbox actually is, and it's completely irrelevant to this conversation.

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Thinking about a newer Band of the Hawk Guts inspired build. I'm not that happy with the ones out there. One made him a "Wanderer", which is wrong, he's clearly a knight (who wanders).

Band of the Hawk Guts:

>Knight
>claymore
>Bandit's Knife
>no shield
>standard helm
>elite knight gauntlets
>knight armor
>Hard Leather Boots
>Red Eye Ring
>Wolf Ring

Stats:
>high vit
>high str
>high end
>rest stats default
>no magic

Sadly, outside of mods you can't get the glorious Band of the Hawk style armor, with a metal breastplate + cape, with leather boots and gauntlets. Warrior set is the closet. So I just mix and match from the Knight set to see what looks closest.

>>123548407
Hollow soldiers during shield bash animation. If you hit them head on when they windup the shield bash, the damage will be blocked as if the shield is still up.

>>123548497
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0Mz2MiXKGo

>>123548583

That's how it always worked anon, shield up is a status that gives damage reduction from attacks that come from a particular direction.

I could headshot a spear & shield undead in DaS1 too and not get full damage

I'm not sure why you think a shield bash shouldn't grant block frames.

>>123548135
Katanas (Iaito or Uchigatana) are cool and I can also recommend the Halberd, but you might feel overpowered with it because the R1 combo damage/speed is ridiculous.

>>123548631

What is that, Balder set? That can't help but looking really dorky.

>>123548748
>That's how it always worked anon
lolno

It's the same reused animation from DS1 or even DeS, but it works completely different in DS2 probably because they fucked up hitboxes when reworking it for 60FPS.

>>123548834

hitboxes has literally nothing to do with this, again it's just the attack now counts as being shielded

the way it works is exactly how shielded status has always worked

>>123548894
>hitbox should change to match animation and allow an opening for attack
>does that with broken timing
>hitboxes has literally nothing to do with this

>the way it works is exactly how shielded status has always worked
>works differently in DS1/DeS
>BUT IT HOW IT ALWAYS WORKED
You're a bit on a slow side, huh?

>>123547708
Yeah but even though it has good damage for pve sometimes it's annoying as hell. It's so slow and combined with terrible range you often cant get more than one hit in at any given opportunity because by the time the second hit is about to land your either vulnerable or your not close enough to the enemy's hit box. It's situational I guess but the range is definitely a trade off especially when you might be getting 2-3 hits on a boss instead of one using a different weapon.

>>123549017

>still has his shield up while he's charging the attack

I'm not sure why it's so hard to process for you that it behaves the same way any attack shielded attack does

>works differently in DS1/DeS

The attack itself does, the shield status itself doesnt.

And now, it still has nothing to do with hitbox placement, nor does it do anything to reinforce your point that any of this is "luck based" considering even if you don't like it, the behavior is consistent.

>>123549105

I'll agree on that, but the poise damage is amazing.

Regardless, it's mostly meant as a poise breaking, anti armor-can weapon (and for the occasional skellington), it's not really an all-purpose tool.

>>123549164
>I'm not sure why it's so hard to process for you that it behaves the same way any attack shielded attack does
>The attack itself does, the shield status itself doesnt.
You really are slow, aren't you?

>the behavior is consistent
Consistently shitty, yeah. You see, if the animations matched hitboxes properly, it wouldn't be an issue. But when the animation shows one thing and the hitboxes act differently, it's still just luck until you figure out all the nuance of fucked up hitboxes in the game.

>>123549373

Shielded status never matched hitbox and will never do because otherwise shields would be next to useless, you're a retard

>it's still just luck until you figure out all the nuance of fucked up hitboxes in the game
>plural when he only could mention one

cute

>>123549543
>Shielded status never matched hitbox
Just admit you haven't played DS and DeS, so I could just drop this point entirely. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
>you're a retard
Ah, the sweet irony.

>cute
Want me to mention Mr.Hugs? "DS2 hitboxes are okay" is the worst forced meme I've seen here.

anyone got a good rapier build for das2?

>>123551014
go int/dex and buff it with crystal and infuse it with magic desu

>>123551042
is magic buff better than faith?

>>123551392
I think so, but havent played both builds in a while.

Crystal magic weapon is still good

>>123549651
Nigger what. In DaS1 a dude holding up a buckler will always block an arrow aimed at his head or toe. How the fuck is that an accurate hitbox?

just bought dark souls 1, can i make my character really cute somehow? post some cute characters

>>123552535
You can make something relatively decent if you play with sliders long enough.

>>123552535
Make the female indian preset white and a few small adjustments.

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>meet the first merchant
>spend my Last Giant souls on some branch thingy that should help me with the statue I've seen in tutorial area
>go there
>clear the area
>spend some time dying to Hippo duo
>jump into some stone boat
>get ready for DLC or just some optional area
>come out
>my qt is a dude now
12k souls well spent.

Never played DS before but think I should try it to see what the fuss is about

Is it actually as hard as people say it is?
Is it actually as addicting as people say it is?

pls respond

>>123554118
>Is it actually as hard as people say it is?
DS1 is fine, but the learning curve is steep. Once you get going, it's a blast. Avoid DS2 like a plague.
>Is it actually as addicting as people say it is?
It is.

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>yfw fextralife continues to split the wiki community with their shitty wiki for Dark Souls 3

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>>123554118
It's a hard game, not as much as it has the reputation for being, but the learning curve is really tough near the start.
Once it clicks, which is normally after you get past the second or third boss, you'll start seeing the game for the challenge it actually is.
As for addicting, the core gameplay in this is just sublime, there's no other words for it. I personally spent about a hundred and twenty hours through multiple playthroughs before I even touched the multiplayer, and at the moment I'm about 750 hours in.

Besides the stuff in the picture, best advice I can give you is to not look up anything and just enjoy the game for what it is.
If it feels like a boss is impossible to get through, summon someone and enjoy fending off invaders.
Also, read the item descriptions on everything to enjoy the worldbuilding and every now and then stop to look at the spectacularly designed environments and creature designs.

This game is a masterpiece.
Dark Souls 2 doesn't exist.

>>123554118
That game turns to shit halfway through and has the worst pvp in the series due to balancing issues that even affect pve. You're better off just watching a playthrough to admire the pretty good last gen graphics, but if you want good gameplay don't bother.

>>123513531
>start to really like her
>stand in front of her and pretend to talk to her about my day
>she always listens
>put controller down, accidentally hit R2 button
>huge deomon's spear lunge
>dies

i was considering restarting the game, but i played on

>>123548497

Try Balder Armour instead for the chest piece.

>>123554118
>>123554991
Also, despite what the picture shows, there's one big fucking mistake you can make in character creation that can potentially fuck your enjoyment of the game significantly:
Don't go with the thief starting class or get the Master Key gift; they're very useful for going through the game fast and skipping corners, but they will absolutely remove a lot of charm from your first playthrough.

>>123555206
I fucking hate people who advise choosing MK.

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>>123554118
Be prepared for geometry constantly getting in your way anon. Play DeS to not deal with this shit.

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>>123555158


Looks too run down, too dingy with too much exposed skin. Originally, it would have looked a lot like Band of the Hawk armor, but it has since decayed. You can't get that armor exactly, so just go with one of the knight pieces.

>>123555641
>not just using a boner

>>123555616
>>123555206

Yeah, I don't recommend master key first run. You'll get lost. MK is more for people who have already beat the game and want to sequence break.

>>123555641

Is that with 60fps?

>>123554118

Do Demon Souls first. Best game. Then Dark. Then Bloodborne. DS2 is optional.

>>123555794
Not to mention you can just buy it from the sheepfucker.

>>123555925

yeah, but by the time you get that, you've rung the two bells and only a few doors will remain that you need it for. Not that useful.

>>123555984
But it carries into NG+, where it's most useful and also doesn't break anything.

Can someone explain to me how does the havel's tower work?
I mean it goes down to darkroot garden which has an open sky while above there's undead burg.
Also why is artorias grave so much bigger in normal game while the DLC is even smaller than normal ones?

>>123555641
Any time this happens, just face away from it and backstep.

>>123557137
>I mean it goes down to darkroot garden which has an open sky while above there's undead burg.

The Undead Burg is behind the tower when you look at it from Darkroot. When you come out of the tower to Darkroot you can see the bridge where Hellkite sits on your left.

>Also why is artorias grave so much bigger in normal game while the DLC is even smaller than normal ones?

It's not even the same location. The DLC gravestone is a makeshift one Ciaran made.

>>123532417
What if it's offhand estoc?

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>>123557137
>Can someone explain to me how does the havel's tower work?
>I mean it goes down to darkroot garden which has an open sky while above there's undead burg.

>>123545309
While all the things you listed are true it's still the best (and most boring) pve weapon in the game.

do you dupe souls/humanity or do you play organically? i always dupe now because i usually have a build in mind and want to cheese through to the pvp

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>>123512163
A year ago, someone incidentally made a Simon Pegg character slider, it was great, he even made an Imgur slide for us.

>>123557794
I though basically royal wood is the past version of darkroot.
I mean those gardeners and stone guardians are pretty easy to imagine being turned into the darkroot version and artorias arena is basically sif's

>>123555037
>Dark Souls 1
>Worst pvp in the game
"don't punish me for playing dumb!"

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>>123559254

>>123559520
>Dark Souls 1
>Please punish me senpai, I sinned by pressing R1

>>123559520
>muh punishing

>>123511941
Hello anon

I've recently bought Dark Souls on PC, as I've had the intention to play it for the longest and I never got around purchasing a PS3 / Xbox360

I have downloaded the game and installed DSFix. I am having problems with my controller however, as the game refuses to pick it up. This is what I have : http://www.thrustmaster.com/products/dual-trigger-3-1-rumble-force

How can I get it to work? Friends have suggested downloading SCP Driver Package and trying to jerry-rig it to work fine. I've also been told to stay the fuck away from Motioninjoy

Worst comes to worst I'll download DSMFix and play the game

>>123559972
>How can I get it to work? Friends have suggested downloading SCP Driver Package and trying to jerry-rig it to work fine. I've also been told to stay the fuck away from Motioninjoy

This is good advice. PC DaS uses XInput, which means that only Xbox compatible controllers work out of the box. So you'll need a special driver for other controllers like the PS3 controllers. SCP driver should work. Motioninjoy is Chinese malware and you should stay away from it.

Everyone said controller was better and im playing with a controller for the first time, but I like the pc controlls way more. How am I supposed to sprint and move and control the camera at the same time?

>>123561574
Hold B to sprint with your point finger
Controll camera with thumbs

get fucking good

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What's this?

>>123561052
Thanks very much anon. The game picked up the controller, but it's fucked (camera is always spinning, very common issue when multiple devices are used)

Guess I'll go ahead and set up SCP. The game started off great, so I hope I get to play it

I picked a Knght as my starting class, I hope I didn't botch it

>>123562135
>4 copies of the same game
Autism

>>123554108
>using boss souls for souls
>not trading them for weapons
Wut.

>>123562158
>starting class
It matters way less than you think it does after 3 bosses.
Remember than a good 70% of the good items and cool stuff is found by exploration.
Try to get a sense of where you are going.
When you get kidnapped don't go into the graveyard but go to the top right instead.
Luring enemies one at a time is basically how you roll.
Rolling is also how you roll but shields help a lot too depending on what kind of hit the enemy is using.
Literally walking backwards after baiting an attack also works with minimal stamina consumption
RES is literally worthless

>>123554518
yeah I don't get why people use it. The information is less thorough and generally poorly laid out, especially when it comes to details like weapon stats. Plus sometimes it clogs your browser with it's stupid chat thing and random unrelated youtube videos you didn't ask it to play.

>>123562583
Souls, not soul.

I bought SotFS on sale a few weeks ago. I had played like 5 hours of DaS2 and just couldn't get into it. I'm really enjoying SotFS though.

I don't really get it. What changed between them? I've noticed some different enemy placement but everything else seems about the same. It just feels not as shitty for some reason.

Also I recall my weapons breaking all the goddamn time in DaS2, but now they only threaten to break if you're banging them against a wall constantly.

Is there a recommended level be at before you do any of the DLC content?

>>123563243
Oh, I thought you meant you popped the item. I've totally seen people do that on their first play through of a Souls game.

Can't you just go back to change your character back to a grill?

>>123561574
index finger or right joystick
>i like the pc controls more
what the fuck

>>123563447
I did, I'm just saying the whole thing was random as fuck and unrewarding for something that ate a 12k souls item.

Well, there's also that smoky guy, but no way I can beat him without a decent weapon.

So I beat the last giant in DS2 where the fuck do I go now
Am I right in assuming that I should use that branch thingy from the merchant and go to where that dwarf is?

Also holy fuck why did I spend 15 soul levels on strength right off the bat? Rip character

>>123563727
meant to say
index finger on right joystick and thumb on circle or B depending on what you use

>>123563847
OH
or should I use the branch on the petrified guy in the tutorial area?
Shit

>>123563943
no DONT
DONT DO IT
ill tell you where to go if you dont

>>123562135
What >>123562215 said

>>123564048
Alright senpai. Do I use it on the petrified guy by the dwarf then? Or neither?
I really don't feel like going to the tower of flame just yet. Fuck those big ass mace wielding niggas.

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Rate my build that make PS4 owners everywhere cry to sleep


https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/471581

>>123564175
You should make sure you've explored all of the area from the Last Giant bonfire. There's a lot of good items that make it worthwhile. Also the Pursuer boss fight, which is doable as long as you bring some summons.

After that the best place to go is the Tower of Flame. The big guys aren't that tough once you've leveled up your weapon a few times.

>>123564450
Shit, made a typo on the title

*Hunter

>>123564532
>pursuer doable with summons
what are you a fucking faggot? people new to the game should play without summons and overcome the challenge.

>>123564532
Alright thanks.
Fuck summons tho.

I found that fire greatsword but it's damage looks like shit compared to the broadsword I started with, although I don't have the stats to properly equip it yet.

>>123562135

They're going to make BB2.

>>123562135
>>123564843
No, it means Bloodborne is coming to two more platforms, being the XB1 and PC.

>>123564981
>no reason to buy a PS4 anymore
noice

Finished Dark Souls 2.
Is there any valid reason to play the first one? Other than "muh nostalgia goggles"?

>>123564637
I like playing with summons. It's fun to do bosses together. The difficulty isn't really a thing in most early bosses, IMO.

Plus summons make multi-enemy bosses bareable.

>>123562750
holy shit. I must've messed up something with SCP, I got a BSoD for the first time ever on my rig after starting up Dark Souls with my controller connected

At least I know what a BSoD looks like on W8.1 now

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>>123565565
Definitely. Dark Souls is a better game.

>muh nostalgia goggles
people are still playing the game

>>123565602
The only people you should maybe summon are side characters that advance their plots, like Creighton, Pate, Lucatiel and Benhart.

I would never recommend any other summoning to someone who goes in blind. Do what you want on NG+ though

>>123565602
I personally really like summons. The coop part of the Souls game is always really fun.

>>123565565
It's not like a CoD game where the difference between the new and old ones are just the number of weapons. Of course there's a valid reason, you should play it because "it's a good game".

How active is DS1 on PS3, and what levels?
Last time I played was SL120 a few months ago, and it was dead as shit even in the forest and township.

>>123565885
>there's a valid reason
>but I won't bother giving it
You have one job.

>>123565710
How?

>>123565924
The Executioner Chariot.

>>123565565
you should play das1 because das2 is complete garbage.

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>>123565710
http://steamcharts.com/app/211420
http://steamcharts.com/app/335300

>more people play rushed 2011 game than 2014 one with hundreds of hours of content
B-but DS2 being bad is just a meme, guys!

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>>123565991
>How?
They just are

>>123566018
Why do people keep repeating this meme?

Where is the Benhart of Jugo summon for the Elana boss fight? It's not where it should be. This is on NG+.

>>123566157
So it's just your opinion.
Why am I not surprised that DaSfags can only stutter "b-b-b-b-but it's better" instead of giving a legit, valid reason?

>>123566186
Because it's the truth.

>>123566265
No, it's not true at all. They're both good games, DaS is just better. Now go away meme kid.

>>123566038
Dark Souls 1 put quality over quantity
But with Dark Souls 2, B team took a shit on a disk and called it a sequel

>>123565565
Play DeS or BB. DaS1 is garbo.

>>123565791
>>123565764
Summoning people is fun, working together is fun. Plus seeing different builds is a great time. I enjoy helping out others and so I'll always try to put down a soapstone sign after I beat an area. It makes it feel more like a community game rather than a solo, grindy, muh difficulty game. But you are absolutely allowed to enjoy the game however you'd like, since it doesn't impact how I play through my games.

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>people still die here in huge numbers

>>123566318
No, DaS2 is a shitty game.

>>123566229
CREATIVE BOSS FIGHT, NOT JUST GUYS IN ARMOUR
CHALLENGING BOSS FIGHTS
INTERESTING, NON-LINEAR LEVEL DESIGN THAT LOOPS BACK IN ON ITSELF
DARK SOULS 2 RIPS OF SO MANY BOSS FIGHTS FROM DARK SOULS 1
DARK SOULS 1 WEAPONS DON'T BREAK AFTER 5 SECONDS
IN DARK SOULS 1 YOU CAN LEVEL AT ANY BONFIRE, NOT HAVE TO GO BACK TO MAJULA EVERY TIME
DARK SOULS 1 IS HARD
DARK SOULS 2 IS EASY AS FUCK

There's a few reasons for you

>>123566470
Literal meme complaints

Go to bed kiddo

>>123566318
not him, but i spent 600 hours in dark souls 2
i have the right to say it's a shit game compared to DaS1

>>123566452

I think the game has fake bloodstains.

>>123566434
It's especially fun in Souls game because they are not really meant to allow cooperation.
If you compare, I dunno, Dark Souls to Borderlands, Dark Souls is a fuckload more enjoyable. Borderlands just constantly slaps your head while yelling to bring friends.

>>123566470
>all opinions and exagerations

In Ds2, what's a place to drop a summon sign down with 150k~ SM

Not sure if i'm not being summoned because too high/low or simply ded gem

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>>123566525
>I spent 600 hours playing the same game but it sucks
Not very original anon

>>123565991
>I won't bother giving it

I did give it.
"It's a good game."

What kind of reason do you need besides that? Are other games offering you cash prizes?

>>123566229
I'm retarded. You were asking how it's a better game.
The main thing that makes DaS1 a better game is it's world design. Everything else(besides graphics and lore) is subjective. You would be doing yourself a disservice to not get it since it's always on sale.

>>123566470
you forgot
>better movesets and animations
>dark souls 2 literally and unironicly has a stat that increases i-frames
>better level/world design
>better audio and music
>weapons and metal don't look like plastic in dark souls 1
>better and deeper pvp with a better meta
i am not going to say dark souls 2 is a bad game but holy fuck
people actually believe that DaS2 is better than DaS1?

>>123566229
>baiting this hard

>>123559693
use a faster weapon

>>123559701
Yes I want a game with a high-skill ceiling thanks

>>123566798
Oh yeah, and the NPCs are FAR more interesting in DaS1. DaS2 really dropped the ball with it's NPCs.

>>123566798
I have seen that reason given multiple time, and I was hoping you could convince me that the gameplay is better or something.

Oh, well, at least I'll go sightseeing a bit. I hope there are some HD mods out there.

>>123566858
>people actually believe that DaS2 is better than DaS1?
They need to justify the fact that they bought the same game twice + dlcs somehow.

>>123566858
>das1
>deep PVP
Everyone look at this faggot
What a funny faggot

>>123567024
I still play both games

You need to justify being such a nigger that you'd argue over something so pointless

>>123566452
Black phantoms

>mfw I put 1400 hours in DaS1 and 700 hours into DaS2 and think DaS2 is the better game

>>123567063
anything can be deeper than "rely on i-frames" the game

>>123567086
I played both. While I like DaS for the feeling of walking a kingdom who's already dead, I prefer DaS2 for the better gameplay and for the fact that it allows more builds and still has some freaky stuff.

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>>123567063
>DaS2 pvp
>good
>apply 80 buffs and r1 spam
>good

>>123566936
>ds1
>high-skill ceiling
triple kek

>>123566321
DS2 is just a prime example of more = better. And everyone knows it doesn't work that way.

>>123566858
>better movesets and animations
Funny because there is no point in swinging in DaS1. DaS2 is the better game, because it has actual gameplay.

>>123567389
i have no idea what you mean by that sentence

The only reason to play Dark Souls is Gwyn's theme.

>>123567595
Not even the best theme in the game.

>>123567675
I want to play Dark Souls with all musics made by that guy : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nouRoNlnFWM

>>123567016
The gameplay isn't necessarily worse.

You don't have as much weapon selection, but the movesets are more diverse. You don't have powerstancing, but most of the time powerstancing is less efficient than 2handing anyway. You don't have to worry about AGL. You don't have lifegems, but you have Humanity. Stamina usage isn't nearly as intensive and regens faster (this is the main thing people refer to when they say DaS2 feels slower).

Of course, there are things that are just "different" that will be up to personal taste, like how healing is applied between DaS and DaS2 Estus.

>>123567798
I mean the infusions. EpicNameBro explained that infusing weapons is useless in Dark Souls except in some specific circumstances, due to the way defense works.

R8 my Gobbler build I did recently. Didn't need to be low level, I just increased vit and end as I went. I wanted to coop the build but it didn't happen.

Forgot to add in the link, dark hand is a very big deal for this build.

http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/471585

>>123511941
Where can I find the latest DSfix for Dark Souls?

>>123567920
It's far from useless, but elemental weapons do less damage than pure physical with full damage stats, as they should.
You're supposed to use magic/divine weapons in int and faith builds and fire/lightning in hp gouge/low level builds.

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>>123567546
look at all those movesets;^)

>>123567920
In DaS the regular upgrade path is the best if you have points in the stats the weapon scales with just like it should be. In DaS2 even if you have 40/40 in str/dex you still deal more damage with elemental weapons which makes physical builds useless.

>>123567798
This. My biggest gripe with DS2 is that it has double the weapons(probably more), but less than half of the unique movesets.

>>123568112
>shitters who don't know how to avoid getting backstabbed
geez

>>123568284

It always makes me sad that the Black Knight UGS/Greataxe doesn't have that fucking homerun swing anymore.

>>123568265
Actually, it's better go just make your weapon raw and wear ring of blades + flynns for stupidly high pure physical damage with no stat investment, which is arguably even worse.

>>123568380
Every time I think about making a build with Black Knight weapons in 2 I just get sad and stop.

>>123568112
>benny hill.mp3

>>123567747
That wasn't the same composer, but it's still a good theme.

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What do you guys think of this?

>>123569046
I think you're a pleb that doesn't read threads before posting in them

>>123569224
what good would that do?

>>123569046
Both games are better than dark souls.

>>123569690
haha epic

>>123569690
There's not a single game in the series that is objectively completely better than the others.

The best game will always be the one whose flaws affect you the least.

>>123569690
yeah i'm hoping this is a hint that they'll remaster demon's souls

>>123569046
Bloodborne II, clearly

>burn human effigy to block invaders
>this same faggot with endgame equipment invades me for the 7th time anyways
This is fucking lame

should i infuse my moonlight greatsword in sotfs or leave it be? I want to make it magic.

>game counts a Sin if I kill Creighton, Pate or just watch and do nothing
The fuck

I'm using Lost Sinner's Sword here faggot B Team

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Is this a good build?

>>123573324
if it had katanas and cursed weapon then it would be

>>123564450
havent played bb myself but the barbed sword/notched whip is supposed to be like the threaded cane, right? thats pretty damn neat. are black flame and firetempest similar to some specific arcane(or whatev the 'magic' is) items in bb?

>host stands in corner and let's me solo boss

Nope fuck you, suiciding this. At least put a bit of effort in

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This cap came out pretty rad!

>>123571689
That's messed up. Did you maybe leave the area affected by the effigy without realizing it?

>>123573097
I believe as long as your INT is at least 50, then magic infusion is worth it. You may also want to consider making it Enchanted, which will turn all the damage it does into physical damage while still scaling with INT. This lets you mix up your damage types and allows you to use the Ring of Blades for added damage as well.

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>finally buy the SotFS upgrade
>...
>pursuers fucking everywhere
>pursuer in the starting area
>pursuer stabbing you in the back when you open a chest
>pursuer fights in narrow spaces with instadeath falls
>pursuer with 7 dogs and two crossbowmen
>also let's just double the amount of trash enemies and petrified statues
>also have with fun with no invasions or co-op because of soul memory and because we absolutely had to cleave the already dwindling userbase in half
>did you rike how we made eet even more charrenging? ;^)

And I thought b-team was a meme. This shit isn't even c-team, they probably outsourced the changes to the hobo camping in the back alley of their office building.

>Tanimura-san, terrible news ! QA has reported that it's actually possible to land where you aimed with your jump
>Masaka !
>Daijoubou, Tainumura-san ! We're working on an animation that'll trigger on any fall with the slightest bit of forward momentum, that'll make the player roll much farther than anticipated and make it impossible to jump on small platforms !
>Excellent ! How is progress on the baby-fueled furnace ?

Is the cast speed increase from 40 to 45 dex remotely worthwhile?

Is there anything I can do with all of these trash equips I find in DS2? Like hollow armor etc

>>123574664

Yeah I hate it too when there are ennemies in my videogame

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Decided to try invading on my old Depths twink. I dunno if it's cause it's Friday, the sale or both but pretty much every single try went through in seconds. My character is built to bully people, really high armor, tranquil walk of peace, level 3 dickwraith Dark Hand suckage, Dung Pies, Poison Darts, the works. I just walk towards them and tank the damage if it's not too high. My biggest joy is when they panic and do something stupid, just killing them is too easy and not fun at all, I want that terror to set in. The last guy I invaded was the peak of fun in my autistic invasion game. I was grinning by the end.

>invade him and keep walking towards him
>his attacks barely register so I don't even block or roll just poise tank
>I tranq walk he's too heavy and can't roll
>suck his humanity twice
>dung pie him to toxic
>starts running away aggroing zombies
>I just walk towards him, his panic is delicious
>he obviously doesn't have moss
>he kills the zombies and chugs
>I just walk
>he tries to run but ends up in the room where Laurentius is trapped
>hides to the side hoping I won't see him
>his terror is delicious
>I tranq again and walk in
>look at him
>he acts defeated doesn't even try to attack me
>just stares at the wall
>his HP is nearly out
>I wave to him and walk out
>he chugs what must've been his last estus charges
>I walk back in
>he's still toxic and dropping
>still facing the wall defeated
>I stand next to him facing the wall as well
>he alt+f4s

I know it's autistic as fuck but this shit really puts a smile on my face.

>>123567349
yea, i had a million times more fun in my first time playing des, that lasted a 20 hours playthrought, than i had in my 100 hours of ds2.

>>123573981
does the sorcery clutch ring (increases magic attack) increase moonlight's damage if uninfused or infused with magic?

>>123575402

If you find someone who can wheel, maybe you can deal

What's the minimum adp again? Was it so agi is 100?

>>123575457
>>123575457
I wish there was a button triggering an option to rape players if they act defeated, regardless of their sex.

>>123574664
Pursuers stop showing up after the Bastille, after that there is like one in Iron Keep still. The new pursuers don't drop anything useful and fuck off if you leave their confort zone for a second anyways.
>also let's just double the amount of trash enemies and petrified statues
yeeeeup
>also have with fun with no invasions or co-op because of soul memory and because we absolutely had to cleave the already dwindling userbase in half
I don't understand this. SM was already in vanilia dark souls 2. Also the userbase isn't really cut in half, since there are like 3 people playing the original dark souls still. There is the agape ring now though, if you are willing to waste a ring slot for controlled online tiers.

>>123575393
If you can spare 5 levels, yes. Otherwise, it's not such a big necessity that you should sacrifice other stats for it. 40 dex is fine too. If you won't use dex weapons and only invest for magic cast speed, god no.

>>123575402
A friend might be willing to buy them from you for a few souls on the side. He's rummored to be hiding out in the area after Heide's tower of flame...

>>123575639
99 agility gives you i think 12 i-frames on your rolls, 100 agi nets you one more i-frame on your backsteps compared to 99. Stay on 99 if you won't do backsteps, go for 100 if you plan to, get 105 if you can spare the levels.

>>123575402
you can sell them to gavlan, you don't get much for them though.

>>123575865
>agape ring
Don't give a fuck about a wasted slot, but the ring doesn't exactly help much. I just want to play the game normally, while engaging in some online experience every once in a while. Like using a few cracked orbs when bored, or dropping my sign down to help a fella out while scouting the area and the boss risk-free. Especially when it feels like From intended the game to be played this way, but it just doesn't work. What happens now is that you get fucked out of any co-op or most pvp action because you white phantomed one time too much or because you played the areas in wrong order.

Thanks b-team, thanks SM.

>>123576926
I get you man. Thankfully DaS3 is back to SL matchmaking, so there's that.

Is Dark Souls mechanically demanding? It looks interesting but I have no clue how the controls work.

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>the only way to not get Sin from Pate/Creighton fighting was to ignore them and run straight to The Duke's Dear Freya
Sasuga B-Team

>>123577964
play the game an find out.

>can't take on these fucking old knights with maces
Should I just uninstall?

How bad are hackers in the pc version?
I'm not sure if i want to buy SotFS again.

>>123565924
>not liking 4 kings

what's wrong with you?

also the worst boss is that chimera thing from the DS DLC

fuck that shit

>>123578394
Just stay calm. Let him attack. Collect data, and strike when you're completely safe.

>>123578597
How is the guardian a bad boss?

is try tongue but hole the greatest meme there is?

>>123577964

Nah, the combat system is really simple.

>>123577990
Doesn't the pardoner clear all your actual sin (not just invasion sin) one time for free?
>>123578557
I meet one or two like every hour on IKB at 3mil SM. I don't think i've seen a single one at 5-6mil SM/low SM.

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>>123575472
Yes to both.

>>123578557
I've played lots and have only encountered overt cheaters maybe 6-7 times (all came as invaders or were in the arena). In all the time I've spent invading myself, I've never encountered a cheater.

>>123578806
no anything involving skeletons is. Specially when they shouldn't give up

>enter dragonrider arena after carefully taking down all the old Knights
>he goes for the stab
>try to roll out of the way
>the stab tracks
>sends me flying off of the arena
Yay

>>123580075
Don't roll 6 minutes too early then

>>123578867
I didn't know about that and accidentally used it up when I used Sunlight Blade or Spear in the Crypt near Agdayne and aggro'd him

Starting dark souls 2.
How do i fix the keybinds so i don't have to die everytime i want to pick up items and instead backstep into a cliff?
I want to use stuff like ctrl+middle mouse as little as possible

>>123580357
How about a big fucking nigger in full iron armor not be able to spin 90-180 degrees while lunging forward with a spear?

>>123580837

Boy you're gonna love mythra

>Can't do 2 hit combo with 1H Dragon Tooth

The hell is this?

>>123566470
>DARK SOULS 2 RIPS OF SO MANY BOSS FIGHTS FROM DARK SOULS 1
Like two? I'll give you Old Dragonslayer, but having another Gargoyle battle is no different than DSI's one, which was just Maneaters again.

>>123578597
>liking 4shits
what's wrong with YOU?

>>123580578
>using M+KB for dark souls
what the fuck are you doing
pick up a controller or something, PC controls are terrible

Ok dragonrider was ez once I took all my armor off

>>123581645
I managed absolutely fine with ds1.
Also too poor for a controller and i bet those 5 dollars one are not compatible

>>123582229
>wearing armor at all
Shits useless in Dark Souls

>>123582492
>not Fashion Souls'ing it up all the time
it's like you want to miss the fun parts of the game

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>>123580578
Here's my set up.

Movement: WASD
R1, R2: Mouse 1, Mouse 2
L1, L2: L.Shift, Tab
Lock-On: Mouse 3
Switch Targets: Z, X
Two-Hand Weapon: L.Alt
Sprint/Roll: Space
Jump: F
Change Spell/Item: MWheel Up/Down
Use Item: Q
Interact: E
Switch left/right hand equip: C, V

Also, make sure to disable double-clicking in the options, otherwise there will be some HEAVY delay when you left/right click. Furthermore, you need to disable it every time you start the game, because even though the menu will remember your selection, the game won't recognize it when you restart.

Protip: Once you turn off double-clicking, you can just open the controls menu to make the game remember your selection next time you start the game, you don't actually have to toggle the option.

>>123582492
But the fashion.

>>123582249
My set up is essentially the DS1 KB config, so it should work for ya. I have an Xbone controller but I still prefer M+KB for the camera control.

>>123582986
I think I spend way more time picking out what to wear on my way to fight a boss than actually getting through an area to said boss.

Is it a good idea to infuse Orma and Reeve shields with something?

>>123575734
dark hand r2 is as close as you can get

>>123577964
Not at all, controls are extremely straight forwards.

>Decide to do some invading in Dark Souls 2
>Remember that months ago when I last played the game the arenas were filled with nothing but buff stacking
>it still is

Jesus.

>>123575734

There would be too many Gwyndolins using Dried Finger to get their butts invaded.

>>123584401

>All the buff stacking
>Unreliable Poise

Goddamn Dark Souls 2 Pvp

Someone got the list of stuff to do before going to NG+ for sotfs?

>type this post, click checkbox, "you seem to have mistyped the captcha, please try again"

wtf

>>123584401
>>123585273
>buff stacking
One body buff and one weapon buff.#
C'mon

Why don't you fags just buff yourselves?

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>>123577243
Like in BB? Nothing can go wrong with this..

>>123586107
>muh twinks

>>123586247
But he's right. Twinks are cancer.

>>123586107

How can people go back to dark souls after playing this, goddamn

http://mmdks.com/7si3
What is more tryhard, BDCR or DWGR?

>>123586751
>BDCR
???

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>>123586247