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Vermin Edition

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>Patch 1.07 Info and How to Access the DLC
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/11/20/bloodborne-the-old-hunters-out-tuesday-patch-1-07-detailed/

>Planners
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com

>MP Range Calculator
https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/

>Screenshots
http://gematsu.com/gallery/bloodborne/
http://imgur.com/a/UsDJ2

>Guide Scans
http://justsomefaggot.imgur.com/

>Concept Art
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_bloodborne_a.html

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Chalice Speedrun Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkznHPuGY4
http://imgur.com/a/YobZp

>CD finds & Weapon Variants
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848
http://pastebin.com/V03vDSCq
http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3184gy/chalice_dungeon_resources_faq/

>Where to go next in BB
http://pastebin.com/kr9TbvKS

>Wikis
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/
http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodborne

>I need help in Chalice Dungeons!
1. Make sure you don't have an Oath rune equipped, your network is set to Worldwide, & your chalice is set to Open
2. Set a password with at least one number & one letter (the more the better)
3. Provide glyph if necessary
4. Due to 1.05, there is no longer a way to Dungeon skip via SRRC
5. More info regarding MP for CD's @ http://pastebin.com/R2ZSmner

>Wheel, Fight Club, and Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/dD7Cv5mx
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The Amygdala Arm is my janky waifu
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is the beast claw as much fun as it looks?
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First for Boomer
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>just spammed undead giant to death with Accursed brew

This spell is awesome, does decent damage for a ranged item, has an AoE, and looks cool.
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I keep hearing about a hard battle in the well. I think I'm right before the well, at least it looks like it. Is the "battle" a boss battle or a regular fight?
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Dont go here you fuckers
Theres already an existing thread
>>123284701
>>123284701
>>123284701
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how the fuck are you supposed to beat orphan on NG++
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what the fuck is this random ass lightning striking me in the fish place?
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Someone please help me ludwig
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>>123330183

How do you get it?
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Is the Beast Cutter any good? It looks fine as fuck but I dunno how to make a build for it. 40 str 20 skill 25 arc or something?
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>>123330128
The new one? For sure. just not for Orphan
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>>123330012
NG++ BL: 189
Need help with Ludwig, help p|ox
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>>123330398
you get 2 npc summons how are you struggling with that fight at that level

i 1 shot ludwig in ng++ at BL 106
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Fuck that cunt Maria
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>>123330361
Why would you go 25 arc? Just go 50 strength and 25 skill.
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>the Gatling Gun is the worst gun in the game! It does no damage at all! -- DSP, 11/24/2015
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>>123330521
Could also be at NG+++. It's been a while.
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>>123330620
well the arc scales slightly better than skill for it, and it gives me access to most of the fun hunter tools.
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>>123330521
NPC are useless.
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So when I killed Ludwig and then spawned at his lantern later his head surprised me and I accidentally attacked him right away. You can talk to him? What does he actually say?
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>>123330798
one tanks and one does insane damage
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>>123330718
He was literally shooting a rock, what a fool.
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>>123330808
something something allusion to vermin something, then genuinely frightening demon horse sounds

he says something else if you wear church attire but i never thought of it at the time so idk what it is
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Can anyone help me with character creation sliders? I really want a character that looks like me... There may be pay involved
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>>123330998
does the zombie guy from the intro say anything if he survives the fight?
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>>123330808
talk to him in church garb and he gives you the moonlight sword. Thats all.
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>>123330808

He gives you all kinds of cool lore about the history and etc and gives you his sword and armor set but you fucked up and only got his sword.

>Missing out on 250 physical defense chest piece
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>DSP on Ludwig NG+
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DSP just reached Ludwig.
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>>123331059

Nope
I was sad
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>>123331226
lame
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>>123330718
is it me or does ludwig's face become more human when he gets his sword
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>>123330795
then why increase skill or strength past their base requirements if you're going to go arcane? arcane scaling doesn't apply if you're doing physical damage, and physical scaling doesn't apply if you're doing arcane damage.
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>>123331092
wat
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anyone wanna help me kill laurence?

NG++ tier damage, I'll set a password if people reply this time

I just want that beast's embrace rune
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>>123331059
that kind of win condition would cause me way too much stress, let alone probably taking hours unless i over level and attempt it

i'd be inclined to believe it wouldn't yield anything though
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Did anyone feel bad for skeleton man pounding fruitlessly on the gate? He's so close yet so far. He could just crawl around it.

And the Ludwig intro creeped me out. The skeleton guys getting tormented by Ludwig for eternity until you show up
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>>123331181
hahahaha he died hitting once and used 15 vials
>dodging doesn't work
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>>123330317
seriously what the fuck this nigger does not stop attacking ever in phase 2
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>kill Ludwig for host the second after he dies

You were so close, bro.
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I-I CANT DODGE HIS MOVES, HE'S A HUGE AOE
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>>123331457
that's what she said
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>>123331365

It's not hard for him to survive. He has all the times I've fought Ludwig
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>dsp tests a weapon
>spams r1
>transforms, spams r1 again
>GOOD WEAPON
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Can anyone think of any reason why neither Valtr or Henriette's summon signs are appearing for me before the ludwig fight? I have already joined the league
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when you ring the beckoning bell but can't use bold hunter marks or lanterns, but no one comes, is that a bug or is the game trying to connect someone but failing?
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So

Is the beast claw a good weapon yet?
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>>123331968
You just gotta wait a minute until it gives you the message about not being able to find another player
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Every single normal sized hunter in the DLC is a fucking asshole armed with a repeater and high BLT.

>The Black Church hunter before the Research Hall elevator who spams repeater
>The White Church lady who spams Blacksky Eye while you fight the Black Church hunter
>The Church Pike Yarha’Gul Hunter hiding in the jail cells who spams repeater
>The Black Church hunter who spams repeater in the middle platform of the Research Hall
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>>123332736
Forgot to mention

>the hunter with the gatling gun in the cave filled with corpses and an angry BSB
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Guys the cameras a fucking piece of shit and the reason for all your failures
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Far out. How do you take Lawrence's second phase? Lava fucking everywhere.
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>tfw you realize everyone and their mom will be using the beast claw now
>tfw you will no longer feel like a special snowflake for maining the most underused weapon in the game
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>>123332896
stop crying afro
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>>123333401
time to pop out that frenzy spike nigga
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>>123330332
Them fish bitches been playing ff7
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>>123333401
real hunters use the Bloodletter
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Laurence is a fucking prick
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>>123333723
Real hunters use claws without beast mode to kill ferals
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PLEASE GOD TELL ME THERES A MIDDLE LAMP SOMEWHERE IN THIS NEVERENDING LOVECRAFTIAN FISHING VILLAGE
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Is there a DLC weapon list somewhere? Im not sure what i need for the trophy
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>>123333903
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/The+Old+Hunters+Weapons
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Does anyone know how bone marrow ash works on the minigun?
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Anyone wanna help out with orphan real quick? His hp goes down quick but he's fucking on crack
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>>123333997
Thanks, just had to buy Piercing Rifle
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>>123334063
Watch it be one ash per each bullet fired
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Can someone please help me with Bloodborne character sliders? I'm willing to pay
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fucking getting through fishing hamlet alone feels like a boss
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>tfw trying to suicide run to the pizza cutter

I just can't get up that fucking ladder to the home stretch
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So my current NG+ character's build is
Vit: 34
End: 24
Str: 25
Skl: 20
Blt: 12
Arc: 10
Would I be able to make a build using Amy arm, blood letter, or beast cutter with this?
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I wish they had changed the title screen to this when the DLC went live
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>>123334287
No one?
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Is Orphan weak to fire or bolt or arcane?
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>>123334770
this is such a badass cover. i'm kinda disappointed that Maria wasn't sitting like this, waiting for you, when you meet her
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How's the MLGS with a 20 str/12 skl/50 arc build?
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>>123334857
check leddit
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I'm going to play through bloodborne again as a new character.
What's would play differently too vit/str/end and hunter axe? How viable is arcane?
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Hows pure arcane in the DLC?
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Yo could someone help me with this Ludwig motherfucker? i already beat him as a confederate for a few other players.

Password: confederate
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>>123334989
no
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>>123335449
on my way
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>>123335259
bad
MLGS is a quality weapon
Does phy in both its modes, only does arc damage from its projectiles
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So uh... I just killed Annalise's celestial baby... without her dying.
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>10 new weapons
>Chunks are still rarer than me getting laid
yay thanks from
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>>123335449
I came up with this password before i typed it in, and there's a text limit so it wont work, the REAL password is :

124829
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>>123335537
now she'll fuck you
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>>123335537
how
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>>123334489
I'm mad
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>>123335581
Valtr is not a bad summon
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>>123335515
Actually in it's transformed mode the damage is split between physical and arc, so with 25 str and 50 arc you could get decent damage out of it with nourishing gems
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>>123335774
Nothing special, I just R2'd the baby. Annalise can't be talked to. I tried hitting her a few times, and she died on the third strike, although she never said anything and died as if her baby was killed. Guess I'll just chalk it up to some weird glitch.
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>>123335917
His sign isn't appearing for me i have no idea why
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>>123335093

Its part of her lore. She's been trying to kill herself since she made the nightmare, it would be strange seeing her like that instead of her corpse-ish intro.
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Maybe gotta level up the covenant with more vermin?
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>>123335581
We still have 1 slot open !
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What's best for a pure STR build?

Whirli or Beast Cutter or Claws?
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>>123330012
What do the vermin do even, senpai?
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>>123336548
Claws are a str leaning quality weapon
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>>123336572
increases your social link with bucket-senpai
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Why the fuck am I doing like <1% of laurence's health with each hit at 40 str and +10 weapon this is bullshit
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>>123336649
who
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>plip plop
>I can hear the rain inside me
is brain girl the purest waifu in the dlc?
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>>123330521
>2 NPC summons
Not that guy but I only found Henriett, who's the other summon? I've been getting my ass hammered by Ludwig for the better part of today.
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How are you supposed to kill the frog monsters to get Rakuyo? Is there some sort of cheese or safespot for them?
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>>123335858

help
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>>123336463
>remove its ability to parry
????
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>>123336821
Hug their right leg and just roll behind them constantly. When the second one drops down use a shaman bone blade.
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>>123336770
What new game are you? I'm at +3 & doing something like yours, but I'm at Ludwig, not sure if the bosses get more hp as you progress.
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>>123336793
This sounds comfy desu

I wish I could hear rain inside me

Are you... uhm... willing to rain inside me, anon?
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>>123336843
So it's a viable and good upgrade to Evelyn? Not that it matters much if you have a high BLT gem right?
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Jesus christ man, I'm sorry.

I didn't even know he had a move that could apparently oneshot me.
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I was thinking of doing a SKL/BLT build. Should I split it 50/25 or go more towards 40/40?
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>>123336232
Put on his rune
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Just beat Ludwig, what percentage am I done with the DLC?
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>>123336779
Valtr, get 1 to get a blt tool and then 5 to get his bucket
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>>123337009
Nbd dude i think thats how i was taken out last time
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>>123337102
1%
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>>123337102
33%
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>>123336892
Just ng+. Maybe it's the weapon I'm using? Not sure how good the wheel is supposed to be. I want to use the Holy Moonlight GS but it's only +7.
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>>123337038
25skl/50 blt or 14 skl/50 blt so that you could put the rest into end/vit
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>>123336867
Bone blade fucked them up real good, thanks man
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>>123336829
His armor appears on the ground in the areas he invades you in
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Did the DLC add any weapon that would be better than Ludwig's Holy Blade for a character with maxed out stats?
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They did it right /bbg/, mano a mano with a fucking alien.

Kosmfags BTFO

DLCOTY
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>>123336829
He's supposed to invade you in the jail so you get his headpiece
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>Peeve is just now going through Research Hall
>he was streaming the DLC for over 11 hours yesterday

did he really truly get stuck on Laurence for THAT fucking long?
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Fuck the police
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that works fine for phase 1 but doesn't work very will in phase 2 when hes dashing all over the map and doing 180s with every attack
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>>123337370
Yeah, but you need to get invade 4 times right? I just got invade 2, I'm missing the chest and leg piece.
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>Maria in charge of not being another parry bait boss
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>>123337452
absolute heresy
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Where is the beast cutter exactly? Only weapon I'm missing from the dlc.

>>123334770
Yeah, tbqh this game's cover looks like fucking ass. There are so many cooler looking ways they could have done it.
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Anyone interested in coop for Orphan of Kos? I've been playing for 6 hours straight, and the second phase always gets me. I'm at the lamp near the elevator.
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>>123337448

Peeve isn't good.
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tips on the failed abortion running around at sanic speeds?
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>>123337512
meant to quote >>123336882
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dues the impurity rune work on the host as well or is it just the co-oper?
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>>123337452
MADMAN
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>>123337448
>He was stuck on it when I went to bed last night, and I saw he was still streaming, and still stuck on it this morning when I got up. I think he pulled an all-nighter just to get repeatedly bodied
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>>123337524
He always invades in the same areas.

>On top of the roof just past the second lamp
>On the ground level in that same area
>Down one of the underground tunnels, near the Orphan fight
>In the prison area after Ludwig, outside his chamber
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>>123337524
If you kill him in the cell you can just go to the areas that he's suppose to invade you in and his armor pieces will be laying there
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Can I do anything else with Ludwigfriend's head?
Or is one thing of dialog all I can do?
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Fuck that beast mode Hunter
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>>123337448
peeve is awful at the game
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>>123337645
Host can summon valtr
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>>123337430
This fight is amazing. It feels so fucking sad for reasons you don't really understand.
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>>123337728
>>123337721
Holy shit, loading now, you guys are awesome
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>>123337769
Attack it to get the MHS
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>>123337769
Did you wear church garb and talk to him?
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>>123337689
>>123337448
What's his ng and lvl?
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Help us beat Ludwig! ~~ :^)

PW: 124829
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>>123337001
If you have less than 30 bloodtinge you're better off with the hunter's pistol.
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Where do I get the key that opens all the jail cells after ludwig?
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So apparently, as of 1.07, you now lose the Tiny Music Box upon NG+.
Just noticed when I went into NG+.
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Does anyone else wish the other oath runes had effects on other weapons?
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Are there any other enemies weak to Righteous Damage other than Castlevania?
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The leaker said something about the fishing hamlet NPC changing his dialogue slightly if you wore the Mensis Cage. Is that true? I haven't gotten it on this character yet.
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Adeline's laugh is so fucking cute.
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>>123337986
ayylmaos
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>Fighting Maria in beast mode
>Die like 4 times, using almost all my blood vials before second phase
>Decide to try again with regular claws, no beast mode
>Fuck her up on the first go
Oh vanilla claws, I'm sorry I ever doubted you and your fast as fuck attacks
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>>123337961
They changed the little girl quest altogether
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>>123338080
Huh, what got changed?
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>>123337859
so many questions, like why was he special compared to the other slug people? why did they have cute maria faces? what killed kos?
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miyazaki is a sick fuck. fuck this game.
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Does the Bloodletter work like the Chikage?
As in Tricked forms scales purely off Bloodtinge?

Thinking of making a character with 14/14/50 Str/Skl/Blt.
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>>123337887
I did not. Just vanilla church garb?
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>>123338124

You can save her now.
:^)
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>>123338124
Instead of the little girl asking you to look for her mom then going out and getting killed now the quest is the older sister telling you to look for her piggy in yarghul
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Serious question, do any nonPS4 owners lurk /bbg/? What is your honest opinion from what you see
Why haven't you bought a PS4?
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>>123338259
I know the white one with the stole works.
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>>123338259
Anything that works for church garb. Even Gascoigne's shit works.
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>>123338220
>Does the Bloodletter work like the Chikage?

It eats up a portion of your health but it's not continuous

Yes transformed is scales of BLT

It has an AOE Frenzy inducing attack
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>>123338349
Yes
Some of you are fags but truth be told this is one of the better generals that I lurk
Savin' dat money, hopefully round holiday time I'll have enough
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>>123338349
Dunno if you're new here but there's always some obvious pkuck from /v/ every once in a while trying to throw mud in the game.
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>>123338425
Using it on my shitty quality build character, and damn do I wish I had leveled up bloodtinge. Even if I'm not statted for it I'm still using it because damn is the moveset fun.
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I beat the game about a week after launch and then sold it, so haven't touched it since but I think I still have my save file at the very start of NG+. Just got the GOTY edition or whatever with the DLC bundled in. Should I create a new character or go into the DLC in a NG+ run?
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>>123334063
Saw a video of someone using it. Appears to work the same as flamesprayer, buffing every shot of the first bullet
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only way to get the bloodletter is by killing crazy assassin rite?
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>>123338349
yes
mostly here for waifus/weapons
poorfag, even if I could afford a ps4, I wouldn't have the money to buy a game along with it
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>>123338443
Won't get much better than this, hombre.
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>>123337915
Still open
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>>123338518
I'm doing NG+ and its fucking tougher than I expected. Just got the first shortcut and I'm stuck on that beast mode hunter.
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You know, I came into this DLC being really stoked for the MLGS for my arc build
But instead... I fell in love with something completely different
And by Kos is it kinky
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>>123330120
>Blood-starved Beast took down an Amy
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>>123338643
Good looking out, mein freund
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>>123338660
I'm not very good, if the difficulty jumps that hard I might be better off starting fresh. Thanks Anon.
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>>123338726
Maybe it just bit an itty-bitty arm off.
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ANYBODY WANNA HELP ME WITH THIS MARIA BITCH? PASSWORD IS memelord and I'm level 63.
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Oh shit. Ludwig is asking me if the church were cool guys. What gives me the things I want? Doesn't even matter?
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>>123338823
Are you actually having trouble with her? You know you can parry her, right?
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>>123338701
wtf is that lol? so many fucking new shit.
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>>123338832
both do similar things

tell him they're cool anyways tho
dude's suffered enough
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>>123338832
say no and he gives you the MLGS
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>>123338832
It doesn't matter but saying yes is always nice. It's so warm and fuzzy.
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>>123338832
Say yes
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What if Soulsborne player characters had voice acting and dialogue choices?
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best weapon for 30 strength/25 skill/25 bloodtinge? I don't want to use ludwig's but unfortunately it seems like the best option.
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>>123338701
>tfw planning Milkweed build
>callin it S'thoth ma' fofz
>going full lovecraft
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>>123338701
>those dashing animations
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can someone do me a huge favor? I'm away on vacation so can someone post a full body picture of a male character, face forward, in good lighting, with the executioner set, bucket helmet, normal bloodletter, and loch shield? It's for my DnD game tomorrow.

many thanks


if not i'll try again later
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GANK SQUAD LEVELS ARE CRITICAL.

This is ridiculous to be completely honest. Is everybody a complete pussy who needs multiple allies to tackle the DLC?
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>>123338701
>those ridiculous poses
Oh my god I love it
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>>123338701
>Jojo pose AoE
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I just got the DLC like 3 hours ago after getting home from work. Rushed a new character to it and ran into some hairy beast-man hunter near the river of blood.

Is there some trick to him or am I just shit and my +5 weapon just isn't all that great for this area because he has a fuck ton of HP
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>>123338823
on muh way
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>>123339182
Come back with +7/+8 and 30 Vit.
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>>123339029
well you cant invade someone unless they have someone summoned
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>>123339182
The DLC is endgame content, just because you can access it after Amelia doesn't mean you're supposed to, unless you just wanna suicide run and get some of the new weapons.
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>>123338547
I tried it and it doesn't even seem to amp damage even for the first shot.
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>>123338349
Yes. I actually played through the entire game at a friend's and enjoyed it immensely. I'm here for the montages and lore discussions. I'll get a PS4 eventually.
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>NG++
>Finally about to kill Ludwig after fighting him all day
>He's at about five percent
>He swings his sword and hits my buddy for an instant kill from full health out of nowhere
>I'm on the staircase recovering from some hits with two vials
>mfw he charges up his laser cannon shit and turns towards me
8 fucking hours man. I'm going to bed.
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>>123339182
You can bait him to the wheelchair with an explosive

It wont kill him but it'll do a decent chunk of damage
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>>123339291
I never EVER summon more than one person. Anything else invalidates all the challenge and fun.
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>>123339352
this isnt dark souls you cant choose who or how many you summon
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Whats in that chest on the second floor of the big church elevator room? There's a giant gap that needs to be jumped and I keep missing it
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>having trouble with orphan in ng++
>wait for a summon
>as soon as we go in a 2nd nigga gets summoned

Well shit that killed the challenge orphan didn't stand a chance
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>>123339182
Stunlock him against a wall with transformed Blade of Mercy
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>>123337859
>>123338143
Orphan was legitimately adopted, or not human instead of being infected by a Kos parasite. You're basically wailing on an infant which either remembers that it's village got raped or have a harem of slug women that got (skull)fucked
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>>123339242
>>123339294
I wondered why everything seemed to have so much damn HP.

I went there after doing Hemwick and Amelia with +6, I managed to kill the Beastman though it just took a while.

fuck those gun turrets
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>>123339439
Only challenge with 2 summons is the framerate during second phase
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>>123339439
what level? ive been sitting here praying for summons to beat this piece of shit
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>>123339415
i think it was a gem
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>>123338972
who is this semen demon
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>>123339398
>this isnt dark souls you cant choose who or how many you summon
Yes it is. Fucking Silence your Beckoner once the first guy comes through. If two comes through by accident, kick the guy who arrives second.

You do know what I Silencing Blank is right?
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Holy hell, is the Forgotten Madman supposed to fuck me like this? I just want his clothes.

On an unrelated note, suiciding running a new character to the Amygdala Arm is totally worth it.
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Would you take adeline's head blob with you?
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>>123339551
>being this autistic
if you need to summon one person to beat anything in this game you might as well summon two
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How do I get in the jail cell with the guy freaking the fuck out in the hallway after ludwig?
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>>123339551
treat doll with care
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>>123336270
No, she isn't. She's guarding the place and she's just recovering from the last time she seppuku-ed and murdered the shit out of the church people.
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>>123339635
>if you need to summon one person to beat anything in this game you might as well summon two
No. Because working with an ally is fun. Working with a swarm of button mashers isn't. There's enough enemies in a map for two players to share and work together well. Once there's three, you're just a wirlwind of DPS and one of the three of you is just playing catchup at any given point.

Two summons is basically just admitting you're unbearably casual and need people to play the game for you. One summon means you like playing co-op games and care about having a fun time.
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>>123339667

>he didnt notice the poison cup
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why are you guys calling the obvious sperm whale/moby dick monsters, frogs?
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Imagine if Maria kept playing dead, and let you touch her stuff.
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>>123339772
>trying this hard to justify how shit you are for needing summons
>"i-i only summon one!"
lmao
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If anybody wants to help with Laurence I'll be ringing by his gate.
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>>123339225
been ringing ever since I made my post are you still on your way or is my connection fucking up again
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>>123339854
I don't need them. Weak bait champ.
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>>123339835
innsfolk
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>>123339880
thought i waited there a while
where you ringing? near the entrance to maria's lair?
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>>123339512
149

And yea I've been waiting for a about 2 hours almost getting people like every 30 mins or so then outta nowhere 2 just get summoned at same time
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>>123339908
sure thing :)
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>>123339798
How did you know that it's poison?
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>>123339974
yep been ringing the entire time I'll try restarting the game see if that helps
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>>123340015
>implying I care what a retard like you thinks
It's an anonymous website kiddo, nobody cares either way. Acting like a turd only diminishes the quality of the thread and the website overall.

enough shitposting.
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>>123339772
>stop having fake fun!
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Where is Madara's summon sign before Ludwig boss? Been running around and still haven't found it.
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>>123338701
this is fucking awesome. best expansion ever. beast mode and lovecraft mode.
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>>123337448
peeve is shit, surprise!
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>>123340113
>champ
>kiddo
one of those people, lol
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>>123340034
oh i think it was me sorry

my connection just dropped so it might be shitty
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Anyone wanna help with Laurence? BL130, Valtr just isn't cutting it.

Pass is bbg, I'm on the stairs
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Never turn your back on KOS.
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whats the meta currently? i stopped playing when it was 110
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>>123340157
It's not fun. It's johhny-come-lately casual babies who just play these games for idiotic bragging rights.

>>123340207
>confronted with juvenile nonsense
>call them out on it with diminutives that focus on their obvious lack of life experience.
Yup. Sounds about right.

Get the fuck off the site if you're not 18. If you are 18, you should be deeply ashamed that you're still a 14 year old mentally.
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>>123337614
>>123337689
>>123337819
>>123337892
>>123340205
I LOVE THIS PEEVE IS SHIT AT VIDEO GAMES MAYMAY
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So, now that the expansion is out, how, in your opinion, will it effect this bullshit:

> BB = DaS >DeS>DaS2
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>>123337448
peeve has always been shit
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Research Hall is damn fun to coop.
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>>123340318
>calls someone else underage
>has done nothing but hurl baseless insults like a teenager
you can't make this shit up
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>>123340293
That guy made the right choice.
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>>123340034
pretty sure i have it all correct
memelord
sitting in front of Maria's room at the bottom of the stairs
maybe Miyazaki hates our potential friendship

i'm seeing lots of other ghosts trying to get summoned
maybe you'd have luck with no pass
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What does the guy in the jail telling me to go away do? Anything important or should I kill him? I assume he attacks if you try to come in
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What the hell? Where the fuck did my cape go...
I kind of like it actually, reminds me of the wanderer's coat
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>>123340341
DaS w/ DLC = BB w/ DLC > DaS > BB = DeS > DaS2 w/ DLC >>> DaS2
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Can't wait for the Maria porn
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>>123338330
wut? so you cant get the music box asap and wreck gaskwan on the first go?
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>>123340515
I'll see if I get anybody with no password or maybe From's servers are just shitting the bed
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Can someone help me with Laurence?

Pass is bbg
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>Amy arm
>Huh, what a silly bonk bonk attack string.
>Lets see what the transform is
>Ohshit.jpg
>I wonder what the charged r2 is like
>OHSHIT.jpg

In other news, I think adeline bugged out because I have brain fluid and I can't give it to her. She just keeps trying to give me blood.
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>>123337448
peeve is trash. worst part about the expansion is all dem soulbrantfags, kockbra and luci are back.
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Oh and amy arm or Boom hammer?
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>>123340639
did you go to the hunter dream and come back?
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>>123340639

I'm trying so hard to love the Amy arm, but I have no Arcane gems on this character yet.

;n;
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>>123338701
did the beckoner fuck you or something? why cut it off there
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>>123340615
Just look up doll porn it's literally the same thing
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>>123340639
samething happened to me. all you have to do is use iosefka's blood and the quest will continue.
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>>123340737
Yep.

I even restarted. Eventually I just killed her. I don't really need that transformation a strength character anyways.
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>>123340821
It's not though
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>>123340615
>>123340821
>Doll AND Maria porn
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>2 bosses back to back

well that's disappointing I want to explore the clock tower
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>>123340937
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http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/1732424#search=Bloodborne
best doll image coming through
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>>123335463
Bolt added about 200 damage for me.
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cainhurst castle is my favourite zone so far in the game. everything about it was awesome.
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>>123341085
>paheal

get the fuck out
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the orphan fight isnt even fun

fuck this game
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man i'm disappointed in the rakuyo moveset. not even half as cool as maria. R2 dagger poke is trash.
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>>123341180
>not using paheal
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Hot damn, this Pizza Cutter is outrageous.

Best weapon in the DLC?
It has my vote.
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Finally got the moonlight greatsword. I had exactly 16 chunks saved especially for this baby and I'm not disappointed. Holy fuck this thing is god tier.
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Anyone want to help with Orphan sanic? I don't have the patience to beat him on a strength build
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>>123340937
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>>123341209
This has probably been asked 1000 times but is the Moonlight sword's transformation scale off of Arcane? Or is the Arcane damage just for the beams? Need to know for muh gems.

>>123341209
I know what you mean, I was hyped after seeing her use it but damn it's a letdown.
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MLGS or Amy Arm for 25/50?
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Just got done with Research Hall and god damn this is underwhelming.
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>>123341383
My bad, I don't know why I replied to you twice.
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>>123341383
i know this version isn't suppose to have the blood effects but it would have been cool if we got one that did.
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>>123341443
The whole DLC or just that area?
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Who are these two overpowered sluts in this big bedroom?
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Complete retard here, but...

How do you make a weapon do its listed Arcane damage? Specifically talking about the Amygdala Arm.
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seems like there is nothing for bloodtinge builds in the dlc rite?
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Fucking finally beat Laurence. What a cunt of a fight.
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Hey /bbg/.
Where's a good place to help fellow confederates at level 60?
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>yfw the cosmos is an ocean

>>123341284
greatest utilization of the L2 button in the history of the world
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>>123341383
Untransformed is pure physical

Transformed is half and half physical and arc, having one strong should make up for the other one being weak, plus the double scaling meaning nourishing gems increase the damage by nearly 40% each

Beams are pure arc, at point blank range the damage would be devastating
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Should I kill the enlarged heads with bodies that have dialogue?
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Been following that guide for Arcane character, the image one passed around.

I got the saw spear, started with cane since it says I need it later, and got the flamethrower up to +3, beat Amelia, BSB, Cleric, and Gascoigne.

So far my strongest implement is my torch.

What level do I have to upgrade the saw spear so I can put the waning gem it calls for into it? If you upgrade the saw for elements why bother with the cane? I'm at 20 vit, 20 arc, base everything else (cruel fate), what should I be upgrading?
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Anyone know where I can get the rest of the beast pelt set? I just got the helmet.
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>>123341632
The DLC so far. Glad to see others having fun though I guess.
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do i kill moose hat guy or leave him alive
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>>123341870
Yes, although they don't die anyways. Attack them so you can get brain mush
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>>123341695
There's the Madaras Whistle, which is in the main game now, the Bloodletter, and Simon's Bowblade scales with bloodtinge.
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>>123341187
>tfw ng+++

fucking flailing fuck
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Why the fuck am I not finding anyone for Ludwig coop?
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The old hunter set is the greatest looking armour in the game.
I dont care that everyone is using it; we can all look amazing togethet
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>>123341383
Just the beams scale with Arcane
the Trick and untrick version scale physical
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Servers down??

Can't log in
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Requesting help with Micolash. Level 71.
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>>123342083
yep thats what im on as well, his tracking and lingering hitboxes are ridiculous and they all do 50%+
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how many weapons can I fully upgrade? I've been using saw cleaver and got it at +7, but I'm also starting to like ludwigs holy blade which is at +4.
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What should I say to Brador? Do I hear a bell? I don't want to mess anything up.
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Is Eileen attacking me part of her quest line? I thought you were supposed to help her kill someone but she just attacked me. I hadn't aggroed her she said some lines then came dashing after me.
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>>123342083
up your parry game. 2nd phase go balls to the wall.
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>>123342230
Literally all of them if you farm countless hours
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The sky and cosmos are one! This is freaky as hell.
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>>123342230
just play the game blind you fool
come back when you've finished your first playthrough
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>>123342230
how much do you want to grind?
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>>123342083
>>123341187
>ng+++++

I've made a mistake
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>you can juke without having lockon if you're in monocular mode

THE MORE YOU KNOW
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>>123341305
>Holy fuck this thing is god tier.
It's really not. It's mediocre as hell.
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>Maria
>Third form
>Stabs from across the entire stage

I've never felt a pressure like this!
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Making a new build for a moonlight wielding ayy lmao with arcane at least 40

What weapons would be good for a build like this?
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so fwiw my Kos parasite with 50 arc and perfect abyssals (2 cold, 1 arcane) hits players with the L2 roar for 750

it's pretty brutal
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What level do you guys recommend I be for the Old Hunter DLC?
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>>123338972
Frognation know better
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help at paarl?
lvl 31
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>>123342296
enjoy brah. use some fucking new dlc fashion.
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>>123342351
Lucifer, have you ever been happy with literally anything?

Every single time I see you, you're whining. And yet you stay here. Why?
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I'm level 138, at the very beginning of NG+ (just beat the Cleric Beast). Am I too overpowered for the DLC if I continue through until I get there? Or should I just restart? I haven't played since I plat'd the game in April.
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>>123341876
torch actually has strong ARC scaling so that's not surprising

i think for saw spear it's +6. what you should really do though is go into the first chalice and kill the dudes with flaming weapons. there's some near one of the lanterns and they can drop cursed fire *radials*, which will let you m ake any weapon extremely powerful very early

the cane has a triangle slot so it's easier to do elemental arcane damage with it, but IMO you can skip the cane really easily
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Repostan

You can see an underwater city in the fishing hamlet in the area where brador invades you. The small shanty town area. Check it out by the edge of the water. Looks like yharnam. No pics since I'm on mobile
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>>123342380
And can someone post the arcane101 chart
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>Spent all that time getting hype for the bloodletter, MGLS and beast mode shit.
>Ended up falling in love with the pick

I didn't realise I had such a boner for war picks.
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>>123342440
Over 60. Or at least have your weapon +9
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>>123341305
>Holy fuck this thing is god tier
I know right, Whirligig is GOAT
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I just went up the stairs from the Ludwig and found a bunch of beds in a cathedral area.

I than heard talking and walked torwards it.
She stopped talking and than I died.

Am I.... not supposed to go here yet? Are these two Chikage Knight 2.0?
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F I N A L L Y
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>>123342301
I am playing it pretty blind, this is my first souls game. get locked out of opportunities 100 hours in because I made a mistake 5 hours in tho is not fun for me. maybe this isn't the souls mentality??

>>123342307
if by grinding you mean play the game and slay monsters, well a lot. I really enjoy it.
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Does anyone want to help me with NG+ Orphan?
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>>123342497
I finished everything and just barely noticed, damn I'm late.

Yea I need to see these new fashion choices. Once I kill Maria on my female hunter, I will get her gear because it's sexy.
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>>123342592
no dude the pick is BY FAR the best weapon. people just haven't caught onto it yet

it's like the 2 best weapons in all souls games, only glued together, AND it has sick animations

pick, whirligig, and kos parasite are the unexpected tier 1 weapons of the expansion
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Why the fuck can't I summon henriett?
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>>123337721
>Down one of the underground tunnels, near the Orphan fight

Where? can't find it
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>>123342512 have you ever been happy with literally anything?

The claymore in DaS1, pre-nerf.
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Haven't been here in a while. How's the DLC, /bbg/? Worth the price?

How are the bosses, the clothes, the weapons, the levels, the NPCs? Is the clock Hunter from the promotional pictures in it? Does it get as horrifying as the main game or even more so?
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>>123342592
>go in lusting after every single weapon except that shitty scythe cleaver
>fall in love with scythe cleaver and it's surprising moveset
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>tfw female character beast form is male.
>miyazaki pls.
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>>123342623
By grinding, we mean killing the same exact mobs over and over with a low percent drop rate on the item you want.
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>>123342623
in the main campaign there were enough chunks to get 2 weapons to +9, and a 3rd to 7 or 8. there was one rock for +10

the DLC adds another rock and enough chunks for another weapon. so you can do about 4 weapons per game clear to +9, and 2 of those to +10
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>>123342692
So...overpowered stuff?
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>>123342623
Don't think of them as mistakes, nobody finds 100% of the content of a souls game on their first playthrough. I usually look shit up that i missed after my first playthrough.
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>>123342083
I did all the Dark Souls 2 DLC in NG+++. I've learned my lesson and stuck to NG until this came out. I'll finish it THEN go NG+.
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>>123342679
Kos parasite was a lot better than i expected, the long range and reliable damage make it a powerful weapon in the hands of a passive player
Unfortunately you'll have a lot of trouble punishing people who heal though
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>>123342762
Beasthunter Saif is actually super based.
I even dropped my best secondary dex and am probably just going to main this.
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>people summoning on their first run of the boss
>just helped a guy who was trying living failures for his very first time
>he summoned me and another guy
>we killed everything before they even got the change to cast the amazing cosmo meteor shower spell

Why even buy this thing? Might as well just youtube it.
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Jesus christ I wish getting chunks wasn't such a chore.

Is there any better way to do it now?
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>>123342147
Password?
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>>123342765
I think a female beast molested Miyazaki as a child so he refuses to portray them
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>>123342618
Please respond
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>tfw fighting Maria for the first time just now, had no idea what to expect
>tfw she goes full fucking DMD Vergil on my ass
Holy fuck, fights like these are the best
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>>123342083
>>123342320
NG+7
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>>123341967
What did you expect? The second coming of Christ?
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>>123342867
i wish your first playthrough of anything, including DLC, would be NG even if you are on NG+(+)
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>>123342692
But then you stopped using it later because you wanted to fastroll because you thought you couldn't midroll through Wog right?
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>>123342623
The whole fun of your first playthrough is the sense of exploration, and not knowing how badly you're fucking things up. Once you finish your first playthrough and know what you're doing, then you can start looking things up and going for a perfect run, getting every item, doing every npc quest, making a creative build, etc.
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>>123342259
Anyone? Why would she aggro on me right away? I've killed rom and only talked to eileen in central yarnham
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>>123342883
Living failures I can kind of get.

People who coop maria should be banned.
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>>123343070
That would be far too smart for FROM to even consider.
That would come far after making chunks common.
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>>123342259
You were supposed to help her kill Henryk back in Gascoigne's area first.
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>>123342578
Yup.
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>>123343020
Why?

Nothing even changes; except for everything being a massive damage sponge.
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does anyone else feel the expansion is better than vanilla?
>weapon placements all over the shop
>trick weapons that are crazier than anything the soul series has that really makes bloodborne unique.
>npcs with tons of dialogue.

if they can only make matchmaking way better it would be awesome.
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How do I dodge Ludwig's attack where he jumps, disappears for a bit, and then slams down? I roll around but only have like a 25% chance of actually dodging it. That's what's really fucking me up in the first phase since it almost one-shots me
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>>123343097
i still remember how vast Central Yharnam felt to me. The mobs that outnumbered my character, the branching paths, the repugnant and seemingly endless sewers, and the lack of save points.
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>>123343251
The challenge and I loved replaying the game that much. I did that with every souls game except Das2, only made to +3 because it was so boring.
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>>123343301
It is, mainly because you actually feel encouraged to find new items because you know they're useful and interesting.
In the main game it's just another goddamn blood vial or coldblood.
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>>123343301
The weapons are amazing. Shit like Kos parasite and the Amy arm are what I want ALL arcane weapons to be like.
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>>123343301
>>123343363
This. Making new characters is going to be fun after vicar. So many weapon options to choose from.
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So is this the last possible DLC ever?

Or could one more be on the way?

Pretty sure the basement door in Byrgenwyrth hasn't been used, maybe there's an Amy down there waiting to take us somewhere awesome and exciting again
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>>123342820
>>123343097
youre both right. I will play this for some time because I'm really enjoying it.
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I have $20 and Bloodborne is on sale at GameStop, should I pick it up?

I've never played any of the souls games except a bit of the DaS
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So I'm about go flick the Rom switch from off to 'everything is fucked'. I've done Amy, Paarl, old yharnam and hemwick. Am I missing anything?
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>>123343212
Ah crap. What a bitch though
>this guy didn't help me so I'm gonna attack him
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>>123339772

Am I reading this right?

Am I seriously seeing someone bragging about how l33t pr0 they are for actually summoning people at all?

Is this Nightmare /bbg/ or what?
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>>123343463
Naw this was it, apparently this was separated into two DLCs but they just put it together.
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>>123343502
Get Annalise for easy umbilical cord
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>>123343079
Post-nerf my new weapon-fu became the silver knight spear

>>123342802
No, well balanced stuff
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>>123343564

Already got her waiting to get knocked up
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>>123342529
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>>123343375
Yup. Souls never gonna do that shit. Guts character in bloodborne before souls.
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>>123343337
i don't know, maybe look up, where he jumps?
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Be honest

http://strawpoll.me/6096165
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I haven't played BB in a long time, I had a level 80 hunter and always found invasions at the upper loft. Is there a recommended general level for invasions now? Or a level to play with /tg/?
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>>123343543
yep, and from a guy who was originally whining about encountering other people's summons when invading
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>>123343481
You should get it.
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>mfw I can go from character creation to the Whirligig Saw, Amygdala Arm, Beast Cutter, and Boom Hammer within the span of an hour

this game just went from an 8/10 to a 10/10
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>>123343674
>/tg/

whoops. Also, are there general tiers for what vit everyone has?
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>>123343632
>Well balanced
>Silver knight spear
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>First time entering the DLC
Oh shit them weapons and giant axe cuthulus.
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>>123343481
do it bro. get the dlc too.
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>they didnt add a respec item
gg fromshit
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That's a lot of fish
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is pizza cutter a pure str build? Should I dump points into end too?
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>>123343632
They wouldn't have nerfed it had it been well-balanced.
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>>123343337
He has two types of jump. When you are really close, he will jump up and cling to the ceiling. Bloodtrail will drop so just keep sprinting until you are not under it. Alternatively, sprint to the stairs since he can't drop past it.
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>>123343725
i'm so happy. perfect decisions to make it after VA and not rom. could even get the mlgs kek.

>>123343810
found the dark souls 2 faggot.
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Whats your DLC weaponfu?

Whirligig saw is mine.

I LOVE THIS SAW! THIS SAW IS PART OF ME! I'M GONNA MAKE IT PART OF YOU!
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>>123343814
Goddammit, those snails remind me of a certain Junji Itou moment.
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>>123339005
someone?

anyone?

please?
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>>123343674
BB has a wide invasion range and you can get them anywhere from 43 (the minimum) to 150 (the highest meta). people in /bbg/ usually stick around 100 although you'll see 60-120 very frequently.

40-50 vit is standard in any normal "PvP meta". 30 is fairly glass. less than 30 is pure glass
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Where is the beast hide garb at? I've got the hands, the legs, and the helmet already.
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>>123343765
It was balanced. Nice reach, okay damage, could not be buffed.

>>123343821
Yes, they would. From sucks at balance in all of their games, even outside of the souls series. They will nerf things if enough people whine about them.
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I thought it couldn't get worse than the ogres from DaS2

BUT THESE FUCKING GIANT FISHMEN JESUS CHRIST
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>>123343481
You could wait a few weeks for the main game DLC special edition combo.
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We should set a default password for the DLC. I'm sure I'm not the only one with NG+ Ludwig problems
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>>123343810
Respec shitters BTFO

>>123343902
MLGS, I fucking love this thing, gonna make an arc build just for it (in;b4 butthurt)
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>>123343902
Moonlight greatsword.
It's always the moonlight greatsword.
Even in Dark Souls 1 where it wasn't very impressive.
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>>123343902
I can't even choose, Pizza Cutter, Beast Cutter, Moonlight Based, Saif.
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>Gehrman came before Ludwig

And yet, Ludwig seems straight out of antiquity, a crusader used to his mount
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>>123343902
Saif
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>>123343925
>THE WEAPON I ABU- I MEAN USED WAS BAAAAALAAAANCED!
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>>123343819
S strength and D skill at +10
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>>123343725
whats needed to get in the DLC?
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the oldman in the wheelchair bomb is so miyazaki. he should have made it dealt more dmg though, he def got me there.
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>>123344025
Nerfing everything isn't balancing.
Improving really shitty weapons that could have been cool is.
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>>123344017
*fused
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>Defiled Chalice
So this kind of fucking sucks dick. Like I hated Chalice Dungeons to begin with, but this is just awful. Every boss has a few bullshit one-shot moves to begin with, but now every single attack can kill me in one hit. Is there any way I can make this suck less, or do people actually go through every single one of these chalice dungeons every time they make a new character?
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>>123343902

Amygdala Arm

The Saif has me hoping for a sabre in DaS3
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So basically the strategy for Kos is: parry him in phase 1 to conserve blood vials, then in phase 2 start jiggy dancing and hope you get lucky enough to hit and run
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I AM BEYOND PISSED
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>>123343920

Thanks friend, I guess I'll keep on track with my 40vt/15end/50str/25skl character to put me at 93.
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Hey guys, where's a good place to invade at level 50~60?
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>>123343938
They're not that hard to parry, and if you can't do that, then just bait out their slower attacks and fuck them up from behind.
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>>123344240

What is even parryable? Whenever I shoot him dick all happens.
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>>123344209
Improve yourself AKA acquire skill AKA get better AKA git gud
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>>123344240
lmao this is exactly what i did. phase 2 is kill before you get killed.
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>>123344243
>that reveal

I just wanted to be a dapper beast hunter hero. Babies, Old Men, and now this. Why can't this game let me be the good guy?
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>>123344243
Calm down anon. You're going to need to keep yourself under control if you're ever going to get through the boss after this one.
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>>123344240
Naw in phase 2, you git gud. All your souls training of dodging shit comes into play here.
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Any ideas for new pvp area?
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>>123344243
I killed her right as she finished me off
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>>123344263
that's an extremely good build for the expansion
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>>123344383
youve obviously only encountered him in NG babby mode
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Maria is a fucking joke.

All you have to do is run towards her and dash past her from the left. Her attack whiffs and you can get one or two hits in.
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>>123344243
respect. what level are you? you got the same amount of health as i do. seeing streamers making it way to easy by being level 100+ with a fuck ton of stamina.
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>>123344316
Almost all of his attacks have been parryable. At least the physical ones. Even his leaping jump attack. Haven't gotten that charged up two swing 180 swing to parry yet, but I'm betting it can and I just fucked up the timing.

So far I haven't been able to parry anything in his second phase which is why I'm guessing that's the git gud aspect of the fight
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>>123340341

Single player:

BB with or without DLC>DaS with DLC=DeS>DaS>>>>>>>>licking Gherman's ass after he's just taken a dump>>>>>>>people who unironically say "DkS" instead of "DaS">>>>>>>>>>anything related to DaS 2

Online multiplayer:

DeS>DaS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DaS 2>>>>>actually giving a shit about vaatividya, ENB or any other e-celeb>>>>>>>>unironically discussing bloodborne with reddit>>>>>>>>>BB with or without DLC

Nothing touches Bloodborne's atmosphere, level design and aesthetics, but dear god, have they fucking dropped the ball HARD on the multiplayer part. I like the bells instead of summon signs, it's more practical and the way password works is very, very convenient. But the fucking Bell Maiden was single-handely the worst thing they could have possibly implemented in this game. It's simply not geared towards pvp in the slightest. It's why I stopped doing muh honorabru duels and now I just twink it up and fuck people's shit up the best way I can. Making new characters and doing the sinister bell challenge isn't fun because invaders are always expecting ganksquads, so it's always gonna be a twink that's coming.

To me DeS was the best overall because it was the only game that actually understood invasions. You had real incentive to try them out. Now they just want to shove this outstanding mechanic they fucking invented aside and pretend it doesn't exist as much as possible by nerfing it further with each passing sequel. I loved DeS' crazy builds such as hyper modes (hyper archer was fun as fuck) and bullying newfriends with the scraping spear. I could barely believe the Old Monk shenanigans when I first saw it. The thought of becoming someone else's boss completely fucking blew my mind on the spot.
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>>123337859
>>123339468
Well at least this baby could actually fight back.
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>>123344481
63 I dodged in for the last hit and she pulled some stupid bullshit right when I started to do my R1
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>>123343902
What gems would be the best on whirligig saw?
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>>123344243
Are people really having a hard time with her? You can stagger her very easily, and parry her as well.
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>>123344486
Do you have to wait for him to be a fucking inch from your face to parry his jump? I tried and always got booty rocked.
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>>123344506
Jesus fucking christ orphan is ludicrous.
He just moves around so fucking erratically.
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>>123344487
>Nothing touches Bloodborne's atmosphere, level design and aesthetics

True. The Souls game were pretty standard hodgepodge Dark Fantasy. Bloodborne on the other hand was all about DISEASE and never let you forget about it.
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What style of coat is this
Looks real warm
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>>123344589
Yeah with his leap attack he needs to be pretty much in your face by the time the bullets fire, so you end up having to shoot a little earlier than you would think. Basically when he starts descending on his arch
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>>123344557
haha im 65. perfect level for ng dlc. have fun with the next boss though.
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>tfw cant beat ludwig
kill me now
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>>123344586
Says the guy that couldn't roll through fucking WoG of all things in DaS

>>123344618
Trench coat and the hat that goes with it is a fedora
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>>123343814
those are slugs m8
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>>123344487
Whats wrong with bell maidens? It's same like in DaS. You can't be invaded if location boss is dead
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>>123343902
Bow blade for sure

The dash trickshot is the coolest shit, nevermind backstabbing dudes from range
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Boom hammer or Saw for strength builds? the fucking explosion on the boom hammer is awesome every time, but it's move set is kinda lacking.
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But like really, they should just add chunks to the normal shop or lower the insight cost by a ton. It's such a fucking pain in the dick to get chunks, what the fuck was Miyazaki thinking, whopping 30 insight for just one chunk.
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>>123344740
>we're all squids now
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>>123344618
nazi
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>>123344597
Something I just thought of today that I never really thought about before is, imagine how it would fucking smell in Yharnam? The smell of burnt fur in Old Yharnam, the smell of damp rotting in the Forbidden Woods.

Imagine how it would smell while you're fighting Ludwig, in a basement just filled with stagnant blood and rotting corpses. Waves of musty air kicked up with his every movement, and that's not even considering how he would smell.

No other game has ever made me think about something like that.
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>>123344240
I found him way easier to parry in phase two for some reason.
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>>123344758
I would like the bowblade a lot more if it wasn't entirely reliant on Quicksilver bullets. Shit made me drop it hard.
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>>123343902
Amygdalarm, mlgs, and parasite. I'm thinking of dropping mlgs and just doing a kin mode tentacle build with the other 2 weapons
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>>123344752
>Whats wrong with bell maidens? It's same like in DaS. You can't be invaded if location boss is dead

What? That has absolutely nothing to do with bell maidens.

You can only be invaded when a bell maiden is present, but to spawn one you have to first summon someone.

This means that for people like who whose first run is always a solo one, you'll never see an invader outside the nightmare areas. And if you want to invade, you'll always be put against a ganksquad.

It's literally a No Fun Allowed: Casual Padding Edition mechanic.
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>>123344784
there's a reason eileen wheres a mask.
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>>123344798
I hate how Bloodborne made summoning actually make fights harder.

Huge HP scaling + low phantom HP means that once someone gets shit on for being bad that you're dealing with a buffed up boss.
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>>123344784

Seeing the steam rising from the giant piles of corpses just in front of Ludwings entrance made me shudder.
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>>123344586
dude you have trouble with chalice rom, you are literally worse than shit-tier
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>>123344784
You should play Cooking Mama.
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>>123344784
I guess that's why most of the outfits cover the nose and mouth.

The only game I think comes close to atmospheric stench is Dishonored because of all the fish, rats, disease, and dirty water. That, and all the urinating guards.
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>>123344835
I don't mind at all, does plenty of damage

It has a fine enough moveset as a sword too. I'm using it and Reiter as my main weapons, with loch shield for style and rosmarinus for usefulness, absolutely loving it
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>>123344752
maiden doesn't spawn in most areas unless they summon

so in most scenarios you will be fighting 2-3 people, but more often then that they will be summoning at the boss fog and just enter when they get invaded. like half of twink invasions end this way
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>>123344835
They should have made the melee mode fill up a blood meter. That meter should have been used to make blood arrows.
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>>123344848
>This means that for people like who

This means that for people like me* whose*
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Did anyone notice the snail girl before the Whirligig Saw? Is she interactable?
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>>123344776
but I'm a kid now
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How many new bosses are available to fight in the Old Hunters DLC?
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>>123344967
snail waifu.
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>>123344934
That's stupid and unnecessary. Why the fuck would a projectile not take silver bullets?

Did any of you think it wasn't going to or something?
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>>123344882
Actually, I don't have trouble with chalice rom, kiddo.
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will I be a hostile if I coop with beastman rune?
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>>123344784
True that.
One other game that made me think that kind of shit was Metro 2033.
Say what you want about the game, but that shit's atmospheric as hell
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>>123345004
Just one :/
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>plip plop slip slop
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>>123344848
You can use the Sinister Resonant Bell to spawn a bell maiden, then use the Silencing Blank to cancel the invasion, but keep the bell maiden.
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>tfw keep getting ludwig to 10-15%
>keep dying
;_;
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>>123345025
to be fair the fiction for bullets in bloodborne has always been really sketch

you're asking "why the fuck" a bow would not require bullets
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>>123344864
That's honestly how it always was, it's just that with BB and the increased speed of attacks for enemies and yourself, you can die a hell of a lot faster in a tough boss fight than in something like DS2.

Like most of the time with DS2, when I summoned and the summoners died and I was stuck with that shit damage to health ratio it didn't necessarily make the fight harder it just took longer to finish. And because the longer the fight goes on it's more likely that I'll fuck something and die, it made it seem harder.
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>>123345025
I actually think that's a great idea. A mainhand weapon shouldn't rely on ammo that you can carry only like 27 of to be useful.
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>>123345021
Is she dead? I couldn't do anything with her.
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>think I'm about to get outplayed
>Madaras outplays himself
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>>123345074
>You can use the Sinister Resonant Bell to spawn a bell maiden, then use the Silencing Blank to cancel the invasion, but keep the bell maiden.

Yeah, but as I said in >>123344487
>Making new characters and doing the sinister bell challenge isn't fun because invaders are always expecting ganksquads, so it's always gonna be a twink that's coming.

It's just not the same. In bloodborne everybody who invades is 100% of the time a twink outside of nightmare areas. This wasn't the case for the other games at all.
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>start DLC
>respawning hunters spam placed everywhere with 270 degree attacks that force you to visceral attack
>same area as before only daytime and some rock shit placed everywhere making the level design slightly different
>only notable loot is bad looking hunter's gear and twin blood shards
does this dlc get better or is it this shit the whole way through
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>>123345167
fell from the sky. yeah she ded.
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Anyone remember the depth 1 pthumeru glyph for the messenger shop with the lost/uncanny DLC weapons?
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>>123345074
that gets you a bell maiden, but very few people do that, so it doesn't get you fun fights because most low-level invaders are twinks set up to fight 3v1s
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>>123344967
Just to scare you and to foreshadow a coming event
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>>123345074
Too bad that still means only people searching for PVP get it

It prevents people from actually being invaded

>>123345121
>>123345154
Because every projectile attack in the game takes bullets. You don't get a limitless ranged cheese. Some blood mechanic to restore its shots is also way overdesigned when there's literally nothing wrong with this.

Were you upset when the flamesprayer took bullets too, or magic?
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>>123345025
Why would a Bow fire bullets? Considering that it can't parry and has an entire mode dedicated to it, not to mention how important bullets are, the blood meter would have made more sense in terms of mechanics. It would have been more fun too.
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>>123345004
5.

One is a reskin, another is very similar to another fight in the game but with different mechanics.

The other three are all awesome.
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>>123342941
rx78
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>>123344927
with what build anon? full bloodtinge?
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>>123345195
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>>123345270
>One is a reskin

love this meme tbqh
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>>123345137
It's not even the increased attack speed though.

In DaS and even DaS2 you would rarely get 1 shot by enemy attacks as a phantom, let alone the host. In BB there are a lot of attacks that will straight up kill you in one hit, and a lot of bosses normal attacks will ALSO 1 shot you if you play in co-op. It renders the whole Rallying system moot when you always need to be topped off in order to survive attacks.

The shit damage to health ratio does make a fight harder too, since a lot of fights in BB hinge on hoping you don't fuck up and get killed instantly. At least in the DLC.
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>>123344396
N-no one?
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>>123345243
>Were you upset when the flamesprayer took bullets?
No
>Were you upset when magic took bullets?
Yes
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>>123345298
be there soon
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>>123345243
>Were you upset when the flamesprayer took bullets too, or magic?

No, because that's an offhand weapon. Bows have always been unlimited ranged cheese. I'd prefer that mechanic so that you can restore your ammo but have to switch to melee so that way you can't spam endlessly, but not have to worry about 'welp. out of bullets.'

For a gun that's fine, but not for something I want to actually use as my main method of attacking.
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>>123345074
Besides it takes away from the element of surprise. You'll be expecting it and you have to go out of your way to not kill the maiden.

Whereas on the other game you always feared the thought of an invader after a really tough fight or running out of resources. It added to the dreadful atmosphere and subsequent moment of relief in dark souls 1 when you reached a bonfire.

It's just not the same. Bloodborne's invasions are just shit plain and simple.
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>>123345202
That sounds like something someone would make up for shits and giggles but if it's true that's great
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>>123345249
>can't parry

Wew lad, Lucy being wrong on the internet again, who would have thought?

>made more sense

no it wouldn't, it's adding an entirely new mechanic for one weapon instead of following the rules of all ranged projectiles in the game

>how important bullets are

If you have a fucking bow what else are you using bullets on?

>>123345367
Deal with it then

>>123345308
40 Skill 30 Bloodtinge
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>nowhere near some of Maria's attacks
>still take damage because a tiny droplet of blood lands on my coattails
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>>123345454
lmao. based miyazaki.
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Does the bloodletter scale exclusively with bloodtinge in its transformed state like the chikage, or does it still keep its strength scaling? Want to make an edgy as fuck character with it but I want to be sure I'm not wasting points.
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>>123345454
anon please. Maria is so easy to parry there's really no point to complaining about her hitboxes.
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>>123345386
>Bows have always been an unlimited range cheese

Like fuck they have, you had carrying weight and ammo capacity in DeS and then ammo capacity in all the others. Of course you could buy 999 but the point remains it was never legitimately infinite and intended to be finite.

But that's talking about Souls anyways. This is Bloodborne, and not a single ranged attack is free. If you want to use the bow as your main method of attacking then become a fucking bloodmage, get parries and backstabs with the arrows, and keep refilling your health and spamming blood bullets. Presto, hundreds of bullets.
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>Orphan of Kos second phase
Holy shit does this thing ever stop attack
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>farming chunks for three weapon
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>>123345416
Found it in the archives
sp5wddug
Depth 1 pthumeru
Of course, you have to have found the original weapon for the lost or uncanny versions to show up

Should I go with a Lost or Uncanny Kos Parasite?
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Anyone know how much stamina the boom hammer uses on a firey charge attack? Currently at 21 stamina and it still isn't enough to leave me with a sliver of stamina in order to follow up with another attack or dodge roll.
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>>123345440
There is no other bow in the game. The mechanics of it being unique would have been fine. It's not like they didn't add in new mechanics for other weapons, such as the parasite.
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so the bow do good damage to make it full 50 BLT?
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Do Beast Mode or Kin Mode have any other benefits besides the minor rune bonuses and moveset changes for their respective weapons?
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CARYLLFAGS BTFO
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>>123345440
> entirely new mechanic for one weapon
You mean like ayymode, beastmode, chikage, HMS etc? even HMS can still work without boolets.
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>>123345589
Yes.
When it dies.
Which unless you've got some good dps will be never.
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Should I kill all of the enlarged heads in the Research Facility except for Saint Adeline? Or are some of them important NPCs?
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>>123345440
>no it wouldn't, it's adding an entirely new mechanic for one weapon instead of following the rules of all ranged projectiles in the game

Yeah no, not him but it definitely would. I always thought it was incredibly stupid that you needed fucking bullets to cast space magic. The same bullets you need to fire guns. The same bullets you need to fire a fucking bow.

It's extremely retarded and they definitely should have come up with something else. Just "bullets" is about the laziest excuse they could have come up with.
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Anyone disappointed they didn't add a new chalice with dlc enemies/bosses inside? Missed chance to add new gems too (to maybe help the transform modes)...
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>>123345335
I've never come across a true one hit kill in this game outside of defiled chalice, that's a straight up lie. Two hits, sure. Three hits,all the fucking time. But there's always room to recover from those if you know what's coming. Which brings back the important aspect of every boss fight in these games, which is knowing the movesets of bosses.

People can easily take down bosses from 50% with no vials, relying on the rally system
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>>123345638
no
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What the fuck is up with the exploding shelves in the Research Hall?
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>>123345650
None of those are a mechanic entirely designed for a single weapon

Chikage is just health drain, ayymode is just a rune transforming you, same as beast mode

None of these is the same as having to design a new mechanic only a single weapon in the entire game uses
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>>123345298
where specifically are you ringing your bell
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if I equip a fire blood gemstone in ludwig's holy blade, it seems phys attack is replaced by fire type attack. is that attack damage boosted by the arcane stat or?
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>>123345705
If you've never came across a 1 hit kill then you're either massively overleveled for everything you do, haven't done the DLC or both.
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>>123345375
Okay.
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>>123345716
There are pressure traps on the floor, it's acid.
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>>123345796
Right near the fog gate.
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>>123345819
it actually change it to fire damage? i don't bealive you anon
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>Tfw I lived long enough to see them finally get off the boat.
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>>123345693
I disagree completely and think it's a pretty great system, on the same level as DaS3's art points and magic-refilling estus. Tying special things and abilities to a single common "ammo" streamlines the game and allows easier balancing.

Instead of having a convoluted magic system with either each spell having casts or MP bars or whatever now it's all a shared resource you can use to limit your ability to straight spam ranged + magic, etc.
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noob babby here on NG, just killed Ebrietas and want to do some Chalice content. where in the hell do I find Tomb Mold 1? according to the Internet the messengers sell it, but it's not appearing for me, only Ritual Blood 1.

>>123345819

yep
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>>123345924
and it's Micolash that you're having trouble with correct?
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>>123345189
A similar thing happened to me with that guy that drops the bloodletter. I backstabbed him for most of his HP, then when he got up he just fucking used that bloodletter shit and killed himself. I was like "wat"
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how do I get into the lighthouse?
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>>123345926
what do you mean you don't believe me? If I equip the fire blood gemstone in the workshop my phys attack is at 0 and fire ATK is at 160.
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>>123345820
Haven't gone over BL 90 in anything NG, or vitality over 30. You probably have a wonky assumption of what overlevel is
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>>123346000
Progress through more low level chalices

It'll sell it eventually
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>>123345747
Try using the parasite outside of Ayy mode.
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>>123346049
Yeah. Embarrassing, I admit.
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>>123345976
>TOH released the same day they got off the boat

Miyazaki knew
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>>123346085
Yes thats what all arcane gems do to every weapon. Don't equip them unless you have strong arcane and the weapon has good arcane scaling
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i wish i could use the orphan of kos's bladed yo-yo placenta
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>>123346128
Are you retarded?

Do you not realize nothing about that is a new mechanic you moron? It's just a changed moveset for the item whether you have the rune on or not.

The rune and the item are literally just model changes, there's no underlying new mechanic there you retard.
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>>123346096
Because now I know you're bullshitting.

Sitting at BL75 fighting Laurence at 30 vit, and he has a fair amount of attacks that will one shot me. Orphan of Kos is a little better about that until you get to his 2nd phase.
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Have my fellow Confederates been completing their Civic duty and slaughtering these foul beasts?
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Tips for Maria? Her first phase is no problem, but the hitboxes on her second phase seem a little bs. Staying behind her doesn't really work, and she's got a lot of front and side attacks that are difficult to dodge.
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Are there any new weapons you can get before the first boss?
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>>123346315
Don't really know what to tell you other than dodging to the side is most useful and to keep a little distance when you aren't attacking her

Good luck on her third phase if her second is giving you trouble
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>>123346252
>it is not possible to cosplay an ayy and acquire vermin
:(
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>>123346370
Yes.
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8i29rqz3
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>>123346370
Something like 3~5 of them you can get before the first boss
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>>123346370
i think 4. mostly STR but there's a GOOD skl weapon in there
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>>123346247
Alright well I haven't gotten to Laurence but that is literally the only boss I haven't beaten at least once in this game.

There should be nothing with Kos that one shots you unless you're like vit 20 or going naked, or both. You're just straight up exaggerating because you find the game hard
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>>123346152
not getting anything do you happen to have any covenant runes?
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>>123346315
Run towards her and dash past her from the left side when she attacks. She should whiff basically every time and you can get a free hit or two in.
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>frame rate when 3 manning Orphan

truly the cinematic experience of a lifetime
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is the bowblade missable? I made it to the lighthouse lantern and found the key, but simon isn't here
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>>123346071
What?
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Has anyone actually solo'd Orphan of Kos here?
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>>123346370
4 weapons, more or less str stuff
2 off hand stuff
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>>123346212
Changing your moveset based on your run is a new mechanic. It has never happened before the DLC, and the parasite is basically worthless without the rune.

>>123346315
Stay close and use a fast weapon. Toss out a parry when you can. I beat her on my second try using one handed LHB and a hunter pistol for parries.
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>>123346492
Impurity. Should I remove it?
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anyone wanna help with KOS??? Ill return favor
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>>123346570
with my skill character, it was easy as fuck
i spent hours on him on my pure arcane character though, ended up just summoning
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wonder what plip plop is all about
Maria's boss room, see blood dripping from her body. Plip plop plip plop.

All is well.
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>>123346570
I did and I'm sure a lot of others have done it as well. At least for me I follow my rule of never summoning anyone the first time I beat a boss.

Took me 2 tries.
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>>123346610
probably should just to be safe
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Guys guys guys.
Help.
Valtr is not in my game.
What is happening
I wanna join the league guys
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING
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>>123346570
Yeah. Just got to rev up those viscerals for the second phase.
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>>123346675
One sec.
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>>123346404
How could you acquire vermin when you, yourself, are vermin?
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>>123346668
>>123346661
NG?
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>>123346570
Yep, I refuse to Co-op my first run at bosses.
+7 is a bitch
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>>123346594
Except it's not changing your moveset based on your rune, it's your rune transforming you and then a weapon working with it. No different than a weapon tricking into a different one on the player's end.

In the scheme of souls in general it's just the fucking dragon covenant via a new method.
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>>123346771
I'm >>123346668 and yeah, NG.
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>>123346771
yeah
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>>123346747
Rune's off, getting into position.
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>>123346801
The dragon covenant never changed any weapon movesets.
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>>123345747
If you think the Chikage isn't a new mechanic then you might honestly be retarded. Your idea of what constitutes a mechanic or not is shit.

Adding a simple 'charge up to fire' aspect to the bow would've been the easiest shit ever. The bow faces the issue where it's just simply inferior to using guns if you bump up your BLT. The only reason you'd want to use it is for ranged backstabs.
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I wonder if they actually created a new model for Maria or if they just covered up the doll joints
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So, did they add nothing about Annalise? Still can't give her whatever fucking hellish baby she wants? Can't get her mask off? Nothing? Literally nothing at all?

Gotta say I'm severely disappointed.
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>>123346861
>>123346887
no offense but NG is babby mode, i doubt he meant that
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Any chalice dungeons with DLC weapons yet? and I don't mean in messenger baths, those are only for the weapons you found, and I can't get DLC until next week.
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Seriously, did anybody expect the DLC to be this beautiful? I have no words, just an enormous amount of feels.
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>>123346771
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPLLhitW8j4
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>>123347038
like i said i did it first try on my skill character but i have no good arcane gems on my other character so i basically had no dps, which pretty much made the fight impossible
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>>123347002
The chikage is the complete and polar opposite of a new mechanic, are you joking me

Do you know what poison is? Have you played Demon's Souls?

How is it a new mechanic period if it does literally the exact same thing as status effects in the game, the exact same thing as weapons in old Souls games, and is flatout just removing health?
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>>123346657
anyone?
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>>123347123
>R1 on the Rakuyo does almost the same damage as the R1 on my non-beast mode beast claw
Damn son, is that thing fully upgraded?
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>>123346917
I'm there too trying to help btw if you're still searching
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>>123347226
I have 40skill
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>>123347259
Appreciate it.
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So the scientists just left a god to rot on the beach instead of moving it?
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>>123347351
Is your matcher set to worldwide or local?
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>>123347078
I was really pleased with Tower of Latria 2.0 although they completely missed a gigantic opportunity of making a true homage to the level by adding mind flayers.

Fishing Hamlet was atmospheric as all fuck and I felt I was inside the lovecraft inspired movie called Dagon.

A funny thing I noticed about it though is it suffers from the same thing that people hated in dark souls 2's level design, which was the notorious incident of the lava lake atop a mountain in the sky
You're suddenly at a sunny garden in a very high place in the sky, then a single wooden house going forward later you're suddenly at a rainy place with a giant city that's completely sunken below a seemingly endless sea/giant lake
Don't think people realized this yet because I haven't seen anyone mentioning it. At least Bloodborne gets a pass because that place was literally inside a nightmare with some really, really fucked up shit, including a river of blood, so there's that
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>>123347358
I mean, look what the fuck happened when YOU tried to move it.
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So forgive me if this is a stupid question. I just got back into the game recently for the DLC so it's been a while for me.

Can you still PVP at higher levels? Like my character is level 95 right now and I thought somewhere around there was ideal for pvp. Can I just keep boosting them through into NG+/++ etc. and keep pvping, or will it become harder and harder to find enemies? I didn't pvp when I first got the game but want to get into it now.

Also, is there any point to making different characters for different builds? I have 2 characters right now, one for str weapons and one for skill. Can I, in theory, just play the same guy until I hit all the caps and then just do whatever, or is there a good reason to make multiple characters?
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>>123347386
Worldwide.
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>>123338701
So AYY LMAO mode > BEAST mode???
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>>123347038

It's basically the same thing on NG+ as it is with a fresh character (weapon not fully upgraded, poopy gems, low health).
For a character you've already cleared the game with though, yeah.
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>>123347409
That's precisely why no one questions it, there was no such thing justifying it in Dark Souls 2. There it was obviously an oversight/rush job/unpolished, but here that's the entire idea, unsettling and bizarre geography changes and shit.

>>123347442
Just checking. Still ringing.
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>>123347409
Except you're using some pendant to unlock this giant clocktower in a nightmare. It's obvious that you're not just straight up walking from one location to the next.

It's not really the same thing at all.
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Maria is weak to ARC right?
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>>123347538
Thanks for repeating literally what I said.
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>>123338701
>back in middle loft shit
WHY MIYAZAKI? Why you didn't give us new pvp area?
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>>123347594
She's weak to GUD. Try getting some :))
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>>123347478
>It's basically the same thing on NG+
lol
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>>123347629
fuck off, your post showed up after I sent my reply
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>>123347409
Not-Innsmouth is inside a nightmare, so yes, it gets a pass.
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>>123347686
The fucking post you replied to said it. Go to bed.
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>>123347629
Jesus calm down faggot.
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>>123347409
>level design expert
/ic/ pls
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>>123347686
Thanks for showing you're retarded once again. I'm actually the first guy you quoted and, again, I had literally said bloodborne gets a pass because you're inside "a nightmare with some really, really fucked up shit, including a river of blood" and you replied as if I were saying otherwise.
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>>123347424
pvp is based on level. NG+ has nothing to do with it

98 is the most popular level in /bbg/ but people pvp from 43 to 150
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>>123347673
Does he get moveset changes on NG+ or something? Otherwise yes it's about the same, dying and killing it at the same rate.
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>Kos lightning

how the fuck do you dodge this
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>>123347673
NG with a fresh character into the DLC as early as possible is gonna be about the same as NG+ with a character that has 20% blood gems and fully upgraded weapons and realized stats yes
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>>123347892
>NG with a fresh character
>same as NG+

lol
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>>123347857
Run toward the fog gate. It should run out by then.
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>>123347857
By being in i-frames when it crosses over you.
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>>123347857
i ran towards the fog gate and looked for the gaps, orphan shouldn't being doing anything while its happening. you can also roll through it
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I killed PlipPlop. Forgive me.
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>>123347780
>it takes a level design expert to know that there shouldn't be a lake with an entire sunken city a house from a sunny garden atop the sky

Now that's some top tier gem set of +retardation. In any case, he's just pointing it out as well as the fact that it get a pass based on the nightmare stuff. Chill.
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>>123347947
>orphan shouldn't being doing anything while its happening
The Orphan always goes berserk whenever he does it for me
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>>123346705
N-no one?
Please?
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>>123347781
I reiterated it because you claimed it suffered from the same problem, when in fact it fucking doesn't because there's an explanation for it. Why did you even bother claiming that it has the same problem if you didn't think it did?
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>>123346705
Try Bergenwyrth instead of Forbidden Woods
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Aww yeah.
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>>123347806
>dying and killing it at the same rate.
LOL
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>>123347078
mah nigga. delivered more then what i was expecting. double the weapons, beast form, squid form. this expansion alone adds replayabilityto the whole damn game. it's also not a slog like ds2 dlc.
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>tfw you can become blue brocolli in this DLC
loving the shit out of it already
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>>123348005
for me he just screamed in place and started moving when the lightning was almost finished.
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>>123348043
Where'd you get it, anon?
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I-I don't think I can do it, Orphan of Kos is too bullshit, I think I'm gonna have to summon
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>>123348067
This website called Luna's Warehouse.
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>>123347806
>dying and killing it at the same rate.
have you ever gone out of NG in any Souls game?

don't respond, I already know the answer
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So I'm at the clocktower already, and since this was basicly the cover of the DLC. Please tell me this isn't the final boss fight
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>>123335950
Can't I fix that with Arcane gems?
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>>123347793

So I pass into the 200~ area I probably won't be finding anyone to play against?
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>>123348113
Cool, thanks friend.
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>>123348036
Birgenwyrth? Valtr appears there?

>>123348103
You can definitely do it solo, anon.
I believe in you.
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loving the kos parasite
the moveset is just so fucking weird, its awesome
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>>123348151
yeah dude that's it
also be careful because Maria is the host of the nightmare, so killing her will send you back to the dream and you can't go back until NG+

make sure you get everything first
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>>123348171
You'll certainly find way less.

Take note though that using the password system massive expands your level range, at least for summoning. Not sure about PVP so not going to pretend I do.
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>>123348171
i can't really say, i know that most people here don't do that. so you won't find people here

120 is on the upper end of what people do on 4chan, elsewhere 150
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>>123347925

Not him but that video was basically the exact same shit I faced with my character on NG. In fact I felt mine was actually way harder because that guy was comfortably taking Orphan's hits with that large health pool effortlessly.

NG+ doesn't mean fucking shit if you're high level with top tier shit. Do you think NG+ has some kind of special hidden magic or something?
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>>123347925
>>123348047

Did both and watched videos of both, friend, it's true.
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>mfw laurence isn't headless bloodletting beast.
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Anyone want to help a poor ausfag with the orphan? pass is memes
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>>123348191
I've heard he can appear there if he isn't in Forbidden Woods but that could be a total lie
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>>123348262
>watched videos
lol stop
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>>123347446
Right now AYY is just a gimmick that people dont know how to fight. Later on it will be a last resort and hunter tools will be the primary weapons.

Beast mode is just super solid and can carry itself.
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>>123348151
there's another major area
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>>123348306
I like how you purposefully ignored the part that said "did both" and how you can't come up with anything other than "lol".
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>>123348160
Not really since weapons with build in arc scaling can't have the damage converted to pure arc, arc gems will only increase the arc scaling already on the weapon.
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>>123347925
Keep laughing man.

I'm finishing up the DLC on NG+ right now, on Kos, it's probably easier than it was for my level 30 all in all.
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>>123348131

Yes. There's a bigger disparity in Bloodborne than the other souls games in character strength because of blood gems and chalice dungeon runes.
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>>123348201
Ayy fashion where?
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Still waiting by Micolash.
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>>123346570
Yeah I solo'ed him on NG+2 on my BL98 Arcane build.

Firesaw+Augur backstab+R1+L1 instead of the visceral for first phase, then Old Hunter's Bone and dashed around like a madman for second phase. Took me like 10 tries at least, and each time I got him low I was very low on vials. He's tough, but Ludwig gave me more shit.
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>>123348286
I'll try, im not the best though, took me a couple of hours to kill him.
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I'm in love with Maria and want my next run to be as her. What firearm does she use? Should I just make the doll in the character creator since they apparently have the same model?
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>>123348218
>>123348245

Alright cool, thank you. Any comments on the second portion of my question? I guess I'm not really sure how to phrase this, but should I make new characters if I want to do different builds, or is there a certain level where you can just do any build with a single character, while still being able to (for the most part) partake in pvp?
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>>123348304
Hm.
Weird, I'll check it out.

I think my game bugged though. I updated to 1.07 a couple days back and helped my friend beat Shadows of Yharnam. When I got back I got the One-eyed helmet as a reward (???)
I didn't know what the fuck it was at that point but I just read that Valtr drops it.

Did...
Did Valtr kill himself because I helped someone without being in ZA REEGU? ;_;
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>>123342592
>the overwhelming disappointment that is Boom Hammer

It doesn't even have a tricked > untricked transform attack.
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>>123348442
Still there too man.

Pass is still rx78 right?
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>>123348376
Alright. I like the MLGS to not mind it being slightly subpar, but thanks!
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>>123348470
It's pretty much like a fire tonitrus.
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>>123348201
i love the image of an faceless tentacle monster holding up an eyeball to it's face to launch a eye laser.
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>>123348462
for better or worse half the reason people set the level cap so low is to discourage "do everything" builds. so no, not really, most people have multiple characters for pvp
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>>123348270
someone call loranon
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>>123348515
Yeah, dunno what's up.
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>>123348365
if you actually had done both you wouldn't have said that you watched videos because it would have been irrelevant
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>>123348468
Definitely sounds like you glitched out somewhere. If you got that helmet he's damn sure dead.

You can still get Madaras Whistle by summoning someone who's in the league btw

>>123348462
I'd suggest doing it like I do it: have a main you keep levelling and going through NG+s that can do everything, then have specialized builds if you wanna replay the game again etc.

The level most people play around is 120.
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>>123347409
I think it gets a pass, not just because its in a nightmare realm, but because the fucked up geography is acknolwedged by the developers.

Right before you get the whirlwig saw, one of those shell ladies drop from the sky. A direct reference on what actually lies up in the apparent sky you see in cathedral ward.

It makes no sense but makes perfect sense at the same time
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>>123348454
Looks like she uses the Evelyn and it would make sense with her being affiliated with Cainhurst.
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>>123348618
I'll keep waiting around as long as you are. Must be on your end because I've been getting steady co-op all night. Try resetting your router? I don't know.

Either way I'm just smoking a bowl and chilling with friends til you summon me.
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>people summon for Living Failures
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>>123348642
damn son. good explanation for the snail waifu.
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>>123348621
Yeah, I guess adding more evidence to support your claims by seeing how it was for other people as well really sounds contradictory. That's some top tier logic there m8.

Btw I'm not that guy, I'm >>123348248. Just pointing out how hard you're trying to sound witty and failing.
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>>123347989
>summon and I get double killed by kos yo-yo spin
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>>123348738
>people like multiplayer
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>>123348738
Its irony
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>>123343961
Ludwig was cake, Laurence is another story. I've gotten him to something like 2% a dozen times, but I just can't finish him.
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>>123348738
Living Failures is a very fun fight with multiple people though
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>>123348794
>get Laurence low, cheese him with gunbow
best weapon
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>>123348794
I just kited him and waited for the fireball spam to get some hits in
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>>123348806
Yeah, stunlocking them and killing them before they even have the change to cast the spell, which is the one thing worth seeing in this entire fight, sure does sound like fun.
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>>123348834
>tfw unloading 20 arrows at the end of a boss fight to take out their last third of health

Love this fucking weapon dude

Nevermind all the backstabs I get on Kos co-oping with people, it's the best
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>decide to try summoning for Maria
>last 3 summons have all ran up and got themselves instakilled when she does that shit where she stabs herself and does that blood AoE
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>>123348876
If you're all using heavier weapons to stunlock them I guess.

I did it with someone earlier and the extra health bonus + inability to stagger them with either of our weapons (reiter on my end no idea on his) made the fight last much longer, and they still got off the meteor shower twice.

I'm sure a three man gangbang of ludwigs or any weapon that could actually stagger things would make it pathetic as fuck but it worked well for me
>>
I wonder if there are any extra cutscenes you get from doing the DLC shit first, like the added Sif cutscenes.
>>
You know, it's hard to feel sorry for OoK like we're supposed to when he's this fucking annoying
>>
the third brain fluid is from the quest npc herself when shes a blob, right?
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>>123349009
Right

She'll be out of her chair hiding next to the door
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>>123349009
yes, i think you have to have living failures killed before its triggered.
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>>123349009
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>>123348970
>tfw was the first to find that cutscene and post about it to /dsg/
>tfw no one believed me
>tfw videoed it right after when doing it a second time for a friend and forced them to believe me

I'll never forget that feel
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>>123348970
That's what I been wondering. I really hope there is.
>>
>>123349048
>>123349059
>>123349062
thanks i wanted to make sure before i killed her
>>
Is there a large tophat that you can get? Seen those old hunters wearing it.
>>
should I go with lost or uncanny Whirli saw? Or normal?
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>>123349146
Silly anon

you can't kill the headblobs

They can only choose to die
>>
What would be a rough minimum level to start the new zone on? Like maybe 50 or so?
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Anyone wanna co-op the Orphan of Kos? He keeps kicking my dick in near the end of the fight when I get low on vials.

Password is nodens if anyone's interested.
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That's it, I give up

Anyone want to give a BL98 hunter a hand with NG+ Orphan?

Pass is kosm
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So who else noticed that human-form Kos Parasite and Fist of Gratia allow for unarmed fist wizard builds?
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>>123349192
50 or 60 is gonna be a bit rough unless you're pretty good

The enemies don't give a ton of souls despite how tough they are mainly, bosses aside
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>>123349204
>nodens

Good fucking taste, anon.
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>>123349192
50 was when I started and I'm doing ok despite getting stuck on some bosses might be different experience for you since I went in with weapons that were already at +9
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How did you twinks defeated Laurence and Maria?
Maria is pretty easy to parry into the third phase, but then it get's really hard.
Laurence has his own level of bullshit in second phase.
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>>123349192
I'd say 65+. And go in with a +9 weapon.
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So, why do I see people giving Uchi a hard time? I've literally seen nothing but ludwig's on people for fucking ages, but somehow Uchi is the meme weapon.
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>>123349204
I'll help you if you help me >>123349210
>>
new bread pls
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>>123330012
So after like 15 tries I can reliably get Ludwig down to his second phase.

Honestly this boss isn't THAT bad, just he leaves little room for error. I don't think I've mashed my head this hard against a boss since Fume Knight.
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What does BL# stand for?
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>>123349282
Thanks friend. Took me a while to think of a fitting one.

Though I'm more a CAS guy myself

>>123349347
I only have 30 vit so I'll probably die horribly to your NG+ version but sure I'll go for it.
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what is Orphan of Kos even weak to!? My arcane build feels like hitting him with a wet noodle...and no one is ringing their small bells.
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>>123349380
Blood level
Its your characters level
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>>123349380
Boy Love
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>>123349380
Boy's Love number it measures how much you loves boipussy
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>>123349407
Alright, let's start with yours, ringing now
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>>123349465
Alright I'll be before the fog.
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so how good is the kos parasite in pve and pvp? yea, it looks cool, but how viable is it?
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>>123349286

I'm there now as a level 85ish, I'm just trying to plan for one of my lower level characters. Thanks you, though
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>>123348618
Did you get him?

Can't believe I got hit by Call Beyond there, fucking camera clipped all into the wall, my bad man.
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Anyone care to help with chalice rom?
I'm way too tired to deal with his shit and I just want my lost bowblade before I go to bed
BL40
Pass is fuckrom
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>>123349508
it's actually insanely good. on a 50 ARC character with perfect gems my L2 hits OoK for 1000+ and players for 750. the regular hits are ~350-400 and it basically functions like a slightly slower threaded cane but with hyperarmor

it's a real weapon and that's basically surprising. i had no trouble cooping bosses or pvping
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>>123349602
>perfect gems
and those gems would be?
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>>123349337
what the fuck
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I'm not getting any fucking summon help at Orphan, anyone want to lend a hand?

BL76 and NG+
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>>123349416
piercing and i think fire

i think he's basically invincible to bolt
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>>123349645
eh?
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>>123349337
What the fuck is that thing? Did she come straight out of fucking Reboot?
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SL58 NG at Ludwig
Am I underleveled for this shit? I'm barely doing any damage to this fucker. Managed to get him down to his last 15% but I got caught in the fuck me up moonlight death pillar.
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>>123349440
>bl544
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>>123349337
>Uchi

Huh?
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>>123349498
Shit, let me know if you managed to finish him off, I'll ring again if you still need help
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Protip: combine the sawmill L2 with flat arcane gems to break the game
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>>123330012
Can someone please tell me ludwig doen not need to be beaten to progress casue im sick of the bastard.

I have goten him to phase 2 twice and pretty much get one shoted or 2 shotted everytime.

Im done
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Orphan's second phase literally has unescapeable combos that kill you. It's bullshit.
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>>123349713
He's dead, thanks anon. I'll ring for you now. I don't quite have the timing of his wide placenta yo-yo down so apologies in advance if it cleaves me in twain with one hit.
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>>123349710
My Bad, Chikage, just got off a twelve hour dark souls binge.
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>>123330521
Wheres the other npc?

Cause Henriette dies the moment the second phase starts up.
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>>123349769
I was wondering what that would be like
How fast are the damage tics on that thing?
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>>123349795
No problem anon, I just need a little bit of a edge on him so I'll probably do most the heavy lifting anyway.
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>>123349795
>>123349713

Same pass? nodens?
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>>123349769
i tested that earlier and wasn't happy with the result, was i wrong?
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>>123349337
Did they change endgame hunters dream? Or did I just forget after not playing for awhile.
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>>123349847
behind the rock where the skelly is scratching at the gate on the other side of the two fat guys
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>>123349857
Yep, no reason to change it now
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>>123349857
>>123349925
You guys ringing at the lamp or the slug woman communion?
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>>123349961
Slugs
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Doll hunter bitch sure has some fucking nasty range on her
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>>123338349
PC fag here.
Friend let me borrow his PS4 for Bloodborne since he knew I liked the Souls series. Beaten Bloodborne twice, browsing now to learn more lore about the new DLC. Orphan of Kos is interesting as fuck to me.
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making a new thread, hold up
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>>123349848
Hits like the wheels dash attack, so a quick burst of 3 repeated over and over, around 200 or so a tick, works great in pve
>>123349865
If you can bait someone into it their HP will get ripped apart
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>someone summon you in fuckin NG
>800AR beast claws on Ludwig
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>>123347925
fresh (ie: no chalices) lvl 45 NG DLC was harder than for my fully gemed out 95 main, so yeah, he's right.
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>>123349769
Show me your arcane build
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>>123349925
>>123349961

God damn it. I can re-ring if you'd like with no rune on.
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>>123350164
Sure mang, all the help we can get on NG+ is appreciated
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Is rifle spear still OP? Haven't played in a while, did they patch it?
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>>123350218
its been patched
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>>123349910
You sure cause i dont see it.
I dont have PS plus so are you sure it wasnt another player?
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>>123350001
Hope you got him.
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>>123350385
yep, its Valtr

do you have the League ruin on?
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>>123331287
Surely.
You can see his eyes widen and his expression bring out his human characteristics.
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