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Holy Cake War Edition

Previous thread: >>122671015

>[Okeanos]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20151105
- Scenario written by Higashide and Nasu (only Drake's lines)
- 4* Medea Lily is the stage unlock servant
- 3* David is the stage reward servant
- Okeanos Gacha is already over

>[Da Vinci's Top Handsome Men Limited Gacha]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/summon.php#limited
November 18 (Thurs) 19:00 to November 25 (Wed) 13:59 JST
- Rate up in the Event gatcha for the:
- 5* Zhuge Liang (El-Melloi II)
- 4* Siegfried, Lancelot
- 3* Cu Chulainn (Prototype), Alexander

>[Chaldea Gate Renewal]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20151110
November 18 (Wednesday) 16:00 JST
- Mana prisms will be reset every week
- Only need to complete each once to obtain Mana Prisms
- New 40AP version for all the quests
- New quests (see link)
- No more Master Training, but you can farm free quests for that:
(Okeanos) 18 AP for 12.5k, 17 AP for 9.8k/8.1k
- Don't bother with the 30AP and below EXP dailies
- 40AP is pretty hard unless you have a max level team
- Additionally there is a Great/Super Success rate up going on when feeding EXP/CEs

>News and Reminders
- Latest changes (11/18)
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20151118
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20151111
- Regular Maintenance: Every Wed from 14:00 to 16:00 JST

>Comptiq's interview with Higashide and Sakurai (about London)
http://pastebin.com/ipaXkpd2
http://imgur.com/a/jCif2

>Dropmaps [Now with Okeanos]
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ - Under renovation!
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>Data Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WI4dKGcwWjn5XpTgfLsK8c0cipRzrWbVpiLGeVr55Ks/htmlview?sle=true
http://pastebin.com/jtxyf37T (Toaster Version)

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/
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EVIL WITCH
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xth for Robin Hood a cute!
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Xth for laser beam guaranteed to blow your mind
Anytime~
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MC taste in food > FeMC's taste
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Xth for Vive la France
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>>122722479
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At this rate I'm probably gonna hit 200 Quartz before Iskander or Ozy come out ;_;
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Tomorrow my Captain.

Tomorrow, we will hunt for these hearts, and you will be swimming in all the Gold you can ask for!
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https://tsukinoura.wordpress.com/2014/10/14/entry-141-ellipsis/
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Mephisto, I will marry him and I don't mind him killing me.
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MASHU BIKINI

Remember to be the Senpai she would be proud of.
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Xth for best girl,
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>>122722521
bitch I'm THE diarmuidfag
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>>122722557
Speaking of which I just got my 100 days login bonus today, pretty happy.
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WHEN?
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>>122722592
The Captain is getting all my apples tomorrow and getting maxed. She deserves it.
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I'm in Viva La Hell, why is this a thing?

She casts her invulnerable every turn...

kill me
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>>122722693
That's not BB, but the hair is close at least.
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>>122722986
>he didnt level an assassin
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>>122723037
BB is number two.
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>>122723130
I mainly blame the big dragon on wave 2/3 that fucked over my whole team.
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>>122723246
>he didn't level an assassin.
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>>122722971
Amen my friend.

All these 40 apples will go to getting those 2 blasted hearts I need. I can feel she has been nagging at me for not working hard enough, but tomorrow I will make up for it. Don't worry Capitán, I didn't tread the harsh waters of Gacha hell just to not ascend you all the way.

Tomorrow, Demons' blood will be spilled everywhere.
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>>122723246
>big dragon
You are a really lucky men anon
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>>122723246
Hassan and Jing eat that dragon for breakfast m8
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>>122722693
Good taste
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>>122723421
He gave me the shitty skill up cookie.

>>122723440
I have a Hassan, but he's gated since no more gears.
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Anyone have a maxed Kintoki I can add?
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>>122722986
Get a Carmilla or Sanson support
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>>122722971
I'm in the same boat but with david. After he gets his chivalry skill he will truly be a worthy member of my arts team
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>>122722729

Who is the best fate/zero master for diarmuid?
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>>122723626
At least you met him, i haven't seen him even once the whole day
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Every thread until Astolfo
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Are you all ready for Waver to be in tomorrow's daily?
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>>122723923
My Captain and I are ready to fill him full of holes!
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>>122723849
Lord El-Melloi
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>>122723923
If it's Tamamo we're still fucked because she can spam her defense up skill
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>>122723849
Kotomine, because I love them both like my own children.

Kayneth, as long as Sola Ui stays home.
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>>122723923
>Lancelot
>Marie
It might be Medea Lily you known.
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>>122723923
>Today is Cake with invincibility spam
>Tomorrow is Single digit damage Waver
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>>122723849
Waver, probably

No betrayal, no regrets.

Except Diarmund isn't a very personal guy really, so he wouldn't make Waver into a man. Its noted that part of the reason why his contract with Kayneth failed is because Diarmund didn't really care who his master was, he just wanted to serve someone. Because of this he never paid attention to Kayneth as a "person", but rather just as a master. Its said that if he saw his masters talents as something interesting, or took an interest in him personally, they would have gotten along rather well.

I guess Kayneth is weak to people taking an interest, and wants to show off a bit. As it currently stood, he only saw Diarmund as a tool until the end.
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THANK BASED YOU DW
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>>122723923
It's probably Caster Liz, the past two have been 4* and Medea Lily isn't enough of a threat for new dailies
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>>122724154
That wouldn't be too bad. She can't spam defense up buffs like Tamamo and waver so I don't think anyone would have an issue with her
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>>122723904
Well, thank you then, I will appreciate my luck a bit more.

I'm sorry, and I hope you meet him and rip his scales off.
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>>122724252
>a halloween themed unit
>permanently the enemy every week
I don't think so
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Well at least a monument is guaranteed now. All 5 runs so far have got one. No scales though.
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>>122724373
Monument isn't guaranteed but the chance is higher than silver
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>>122723923
Just charge Ignore Defense NPs and watch him crumple.
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>>122724276
Except when she keeps healing the 200k Demon that spawns with her
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>>122724373
At least we can grind out some monuments in between ascension material handouts.
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>>122724537
It's time
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>>122724587
It's just 5000 hp. Not that bad
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>>122724671
t-thats not Medea
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>>122724587
It's just going to be a 20k ghost or servant along side her. The 200k Demon rape comes in the wave before.
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The Archer and Assassin daily and their 3 turns NP charge will be the death of me.
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>>122724076
Kayneth still made horrible decisions without her screwing him over.

He basically lost the War as soon as he tried to invade the Einzbern castle.
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100 x 40AP runs:
11 scales
34 gold skill stones
102 red skill stones
19 blue skill stones
62 monuments
79 pieces
50 claws
10 void's refuse

Instead of doing this every day of the week, I think I'm gonna start assuming that they're all roughly equivalent.
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>>122724943
Are you ready to get your shit slapped by an NP charging Archer with 200k hp?
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Guys, what's the deal with Marie? NPC are barely using dodges and even BCs, I'm pretty sure that DW lowered Servant's priority for defensive skills after that "fix".
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>>122723923
>lancelot
>Cake
>medea lily
>Stheno
>siegfried
>Emiya
>liz
My dad works at nasu
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>>122725140
>50 claws
fuck, I mean teeth

they still look like claws to me, so I forgot myself
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>>122725235
>siegfried
You know what, I'll believe you on this one. Because clearly someone at DW has a boner for him
And yet he's still garbage
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>>122725415
You laugh now, but Siegfried has a defense up skill he can spam, and an NP charge skill.
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>>122725519
>defense up

against dragons
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>>122725415
Enjoy watching 300k sieg spam charge up before balmunging
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>>122725519
A defense skill that only affects like 5 rare servants, and an np that hits like a wet tissue.
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>>122725235
Nero nigga, Nero is the one in the old 20(30)AP daily.
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>>122722817
On the one hand, corruption is totally hot, but that's not how you get a Jeanne Alter and she also doesn't have a braid.

I am still waiting warmly for her.
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>>122725235
>stheno charges np every 3 turns
>literally does nothing against female units
So basically stheno is a free win.
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>>122725691
>np that hits like a wet tissue
Enemy servants don't care about that.
They'll rule breaker your ass into nothingness and you'll like it.
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>>122725856
It will be Carmilla anyway, she's the one in the old Daily.
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>>122725842
>Not posting best version.
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>>122725954
>carmilla of iron maiden spam with 200k+ hp
Pls no
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>>122723923
>level 46 Drake
>level 40 Ushiwakamaru
I'm not really sure. How hard are these dailies?
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>>122725235
I don't see how Arturia won't be the 40 AP boss. Takeuchi wouldn't have it any other way.
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>>122726136
>Today our hero
>Tomorrow our worst nightmare
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>>122723923
>80 pirate sluts
>60 Ushi
>60 Martha

dis gon be gud
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>>122726094
I have it saved because it's hot but I don't think I'll ever upload it first.
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I had a thought whilst leveling stheno with all these assassin exps. Assassin counters rider in the triangle, but most riders at high levels are female (so far).
Stheno's NP doesnt affect females, so doesnt that effectively make her worthless?
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>>122726136
>mfw all of my party members are female
I'm fucked beyond belief.
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>>122725954
Just like Kintoki is the 40 AP Berserker boss? Oh wait, it's fucking Lancelot.
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>Weiba tomorrow

He is going learn what Rule Breaker means
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>>122726461
Yes. Tfw have stheno NP lvl 3 and still don't want to use her.
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>>122726571
>NP lvl 3 Stheno

I burned my extra Stheno for mana prisms.
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>>122726461
Correct
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>>122726524
She is twitter friends with Tamamo

They talk about housewife stuff. Tamamo also runs an advice column website in her spare time which Medea subscribes to.

Tamamo is also e-mail friends with Kiyohime
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>>122726253
Looks like those dailies are composed of a single enemy class, so even with lower level servants you basically get a huge damage boost and some decent resistance if you use the triangle.
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>>122726480
Well yeah, "all final boss are 4* theme and whatnot". Not to mention Lancelot is a boss in the lower APs daily.

Also Marie is the boss of the old highest AP daily for Rider and she's here too.
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>>122726136
Surely they won't do this r-right?
I mean most people have waifu teams so...
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>>122726094
Chocolate Jannu is best Jannu
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>>122726571
>>122726701
So for a high level assassin should I just be leveling hassan then? I mean I got her to 40 but...if I can't use her NP she isnt much good to me
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>>122726703
>Twitter friends with Tamamo
>Tamamo friends with Kiyohime
>Tamamo would get along with Arcueid

All 4 of them need to hang out.
Arcueid would also be the one that keeps Kiyohime from going over the top.
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>>122726829
That's the reason for them to do exactly that. You're a shit husbando if you can't protect your waifus.
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>>122726461
I used her to kill shadow EMIYA in the prologue once. That was her crowning achievement three months ago. I am only now starting to level her again.
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>>122726918
Hassan is ghe number one star generator and second best assassin so yes you should be leveling him
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>>122726921
hueg alter tiddies
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>>122727128
>second best assassin
Who's the best?
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>>122726921
>tits bigger than saber alter's head
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>>122726921
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>>122727298
Such a bully
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>>122727283
Carmilla of 0-100 gauge in one aqq brave combo
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>>122727283
Probably Carmilla. She's generating a lot of stars and charging her NP super fast (or maybe that's because of Rider daily).
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Dear Dr. Frankenstein:

May your p***s get struck by a lighting. I'm going to marry her.

Sincerely, anonymous.
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>>122727093
All the high "love" types are connected in some way

Sakura
Medea
Tamamo
Kiyohime
Passionlip
Nero
BB
Lizard
etc

They get along well, unless their love ever comes to head with one another. Even then however its noted they do get along rather well when they're off the clock rather than fighting over the cock.

Tamamo and Nero get along well despite fighting over the same person at times.

Tamamo says she understands Passionlip's insane feelings quite well, after all Tama herself is rather like that and she gets along with Kiyohime already so something like this isn't off putting, but she can't approve of her as long as she's going after her man.

Yanderes have their own pride; they've formed a circle of sorts where they encourage each other in their pursuits of their love interest. They surprisingly get along quite well.
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>>122727525
Dr. Frankenstein would never have any interest in fucking any of his creations.
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>>122727475
Is the best CE for her Heaven's Feel? Or would maids be better to make her fast NP charging even faster?
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>>122727283
Carmillia
Spams np and she can stack her np buff due to thus too
E.g. http://imgur.com/a/FKcey
Too bad shes outclassed by people like hassan in stars gen
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I remember Nasu said that Sakura and Rider has the best compatibility out of all the Masters and Servants.

Who would be the second?
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Allright who is gonna win dw or me in getting 4 hearts I am armed with 41 apples.
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Is it gay to love your master?
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>>122727904
>no more master training daily
Dw for sure
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>>122727964
A servant will always be closer than any person ever will be to their master.
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>>122727890
Hakuno and anyone

Rin and Gilgamesh

Shirou and Arthur

etc
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>>122728179
>Rin and gilgamesh
you what now?
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>roll the 10 new tickets
>get 5 gold CEs, 4 silver CEs and ROMA
I don't what I was expecting.
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>>122728323
loadsa emone
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>>122728323
Nasu says they have pretty high compatibility in a data book entry.
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>>122728323
Rin has the personality that would not put up with Gil's shit in a way that he would find entertaining and follow it through for the fun of it. Think about objectively, you can honestly understand how Gil would have been better off with Rin.
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>>122728524
Yeah sure they'd have some interesting dynamic going on but I wouldn't exactly say their compatibility is among the highest.
They don't exactly share the same goals or life views
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Wouldn't Gil see Rin sort of like Ishtar as we're meant to believe? Wouldnt that stir bad compatibility?
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>>122728524
>inb4 MANA for GEM scheme
I can see it happen, the king treasury is in danger.
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>>122727829
That's insane.
Gonna lvl my Carmilla and Hassan right now.
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>>122727664
I use her as a star generator so mine is rocking Tokiomi at the moment. Halloween Ilya/Iri are good if you're trying to maximize her NP.

Black Grail is passable since she heals on NP but use at own risk
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>>122728956
If I recall Gil turned down Ishtar because she was known to bring trouble with her whenever she found a new partner. So maybe Rin and Ishtar were similar in different aspects.
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>>122728524
>that would not put up with Gil's shit

Even with Hakuno, standing up to Gilgamesh blindly can lead you to some very quick and exciting bad ends.

Not putting up with his shit won't keep you alive, but being a pussy about it won't earn you any respect and will make him very bored of you very fast. Which is another way to get a bad end with him.

You're always kind of walking a tight rope with the guy; you have to stand your ground, but don't be stupid when you're being confrontational. He can see right through you no matter what you answer, so just try to show some guts, but don't act like you're the boss.

It helps just to be earnest in a sense

>>122728956
He says she's quite like Ishtar in CCC, but he also comes around to her when he sees how much she loves dosh.
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>>122728347
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>>122729167
Ishtar was apparently a tsundere

Gilgamesh says that's a pretty shitty trait.
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>>122729352
Atleast I can get his interlude quartz now.
Then burn him.
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Who should I level for tomorrow vs. Caster dailies?
Medusa, Ushi or Blackbeard?
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>>122729553
>he doesn't already have an ascended blackbeard from getting his interlude pages
If you want the chance to solo tomorrow, a max level medusa should probably be able to do it with some minor support
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>>122729362
Well he's right, tsunderes are complete trash.
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>>122729819
I have everyone past first ascension but I have enough monuments and pieces from today to second and third ascend 1 more.
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>>122729209
Like this for example, two choices that you get within the first few days of the game. One of these will result in Gilgamesh killing you just because, and the other makes him laugh a bit at your foolishness but ultimately spares you.

>[ ] …I can’t think of you as a Servant.
>[ ] There’s no way I can trust you!

Which would you pick with the guy?

He's complicated
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>>122729362
And he's right, tsunderes are just awful.
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>>122730121
Is I can't think of you as aservant the right choice?
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I like this change. There's hiccups here and there but it kind of teaches us that we should not rely on just leveling our favorite servants. Though, I'm kind of worried when archer dailies come since I only have a lvl40 Cu and I don't have any other lancer servants. I wish that they at least change the 30ap dailies and make it similar to the previous 40ap dailies.
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>>122730193
No

You'd be dead right now if he was your servant.
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>>122729923
Fuck you beat me to it.
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>>122730209
Content that actually matches the levels people are at is always nice, but the issue is more the jump from 30AP to 40AP for new players and lack of 5* exp
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>>122730121
Gilgamesh a shit
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Holy shit does Marie ever run out of invul?
12 turns and she's still going.
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>>122730445
He's hard mode in terms of personality, yet easy mode in terms of power.

That's about the only balance you'll find regarding this guy.

>Gilgamesh :: My Noble Phantasm? Whether initialized or not, my Noble Phantasm is always at hand. However, it would be too much for you. I will only display my most treasured, most hidden sword for worthy opponents and worthy battles. It is not for the eyes of the likes all of you, at present.

>Leo :: …I, I see…I shouldn’t expect it to be easy, with mankind’s oldest hero-king…Yes. The best of luck with…everything, Hakuno. Negotiating relations with one’s Servant is a task for each individual Master, you know.

>Sakura :: Um…Noble Phantasm aside, it’s true that Miss Kishinami’s Servant has something initialized. That golden man is…well, he may be an EX ranked Servant, but his personality and current status maybe be…overly problematic…
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>>122730786
The daily quest renewals were a mistake.
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>Waver's unlimited defense buffs tomorrow
This game is shit
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>>122730121
>[ ] There’s no way I can trust you!
Obviously the right answer. Who can trust such a piece of shit?
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>>122731187
So is life. it's like pottery
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>>122731280
He quite liked that answer, because it was smart. Of course you can't trust someone you don't know yet.

[>] There’s no way I can trust you!

>If I stay quiet, I’ll die. If I raise an objection, I’ll be killed. I’m fine like this. So, if I die no matter what I do, I may as well say whatever I want! Let’s go, let’s go, let’s go! I pull together all my body’s strength, put some kick to my trembling throat, and glare at the self-important Servant before me. One, two…

>“I cannot trust a person whose true self I don’t know!”

>Gilgamesh :: —-.

>I, I said it…! My knees are embarrassingly trembling and my throat went dry at the first word, but in the end I managed to say what I wanted to…!

>Gilgamesh :: There’s a saying in your country, “A cornered mouse will bite the cat,” no? If trapped in a corner, even a mouse will challenge its enemy…Very well. I will forgive your gaze. They may be minimal, but as my Master you have some things to recommend you. In any case, you are the fool who sacrificed your three command spells to me without knowing who I was. I wonder if all of your actions will continue to be so amusing.

>…frustratingly, I can’t respond to that. Under the gaze of those red eyes, my animosity gives way to fear. It goes without saying why I’m frightened. This Servant is a devil. The instant he decides the other party is useless to him, even if it’s his Master, he’ll cut them down.

>Gilgamesh :: Which is not to say that I will consider your feelings. Your ignorance is astounding, but it appears even you have your reasons. — All right. I will allow you to investigate my identity freely. When you find time, it would be well for you to search it out. You know my true name. It should be simple to discover my legend.
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>Lancelot's crits
>Marie's invuln
>Waver's defense buffs
What's next?
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>>122731446
Carmilla's NPing ever turn
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>>122731446
Gilgamesh NP spam
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>>122731446
David spamming party invul every move

Also Marie joins in that fight
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>>122731446
Cu dodge spam
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>>122731446
>Hassan evasion and NP spam
>Gae Bolg being shoved up your ass on lancer day
>Gil NP spam
>500k hp Sigfried
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>>122731824
>500k hp Sigfried

Going to have to double that if you want that sorry servant to be scary.
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>>122730430
Pretty much but the ascension dailies are too difficult for their own good. I mean christ the hp is too large and the appearence rate for the special enemies are too low
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>>122732042
what if his np charges in one turn
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>>122732204
33 runs of 40 AP, 1 dragon
Might as well now even exist
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>>122731668
Marie, Tamamo and Gilgamesh for maximum rape. Gilgamesh charging his NP in 2 turns, Tamamo fucking your NP gauge and making Gil and Marie destroy you faster than usual and Marie being the wall you can't kill. Beating them gives you a premium ticket and 1 of each ascention material straight to your present box.
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>>122732421
Yes

No real better use out of those gears.
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>>122732485
Cheatapk
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>>122732510
None of my servants need gears but what if I need them in the future
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>>122732640
Their HP is doubled if cheatapk is detected, also you will be randomly given status effects during battle and your NP gauge won't increase.

More games need to be dicks
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>>122732640
Might as well use that to ignore all the Marie shanenigans. But judging from all the comments seen all day, that option is not as popular as one may think.
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>>122732485
I bring my friends level 90 NP 5 Kintoki and put a bunch of disposable suicide fodder like George and Leonidas.
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>>122732775
>detected
Also I can manually edit HP, NP gauge, servant HP and wave if I so desire

>>122732814
>popular
And I would give a shit why?
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>>122732942
Values are reset or reversed when you edit them.
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>cheating in a mobile game
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>>122733058
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>>122732640

[greentext]using hacks on a phone game[/greentext]
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>>122733402
I don't know. This just seems too... bait-like
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>>122733446
It's called a joke m8
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>>122733402
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>>122733058
How do you get the time to farm on all your alt accounts without the cheat apk?
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>>122733402

Why isn't my comment green?
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>>122733573
Surely nobody really does this
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>>122733573
>Having alt accounts
Not everyone here is autistic anon.
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>>122733573
I cant even bring myself to play my only alt, what the fuck.
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>>122732775
Why would I care if the fight ends at turn 1
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>>122733547
I don't think this is a man
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>>122733019
Do you know the programming implications of that? They would need a very sophisticated anti-cheat program that encrypts all values because even if you force value origin every few seconds, you can still just freeze the value and stop that from happening entirely.
So basically, will never happen, you shitter.

Chouginga Kantai did forced value updating and I was still able to cheat easily.

The only thing that is a bitch to circumvent are full on game-wide anti-cheat measures like in FF Record Keeper and you need a seriously good dev team to do that. Never gonna happen in FGO.

Next time don't spew bullshit when it comes to stuff you have no clue about.

>>122733573
You have more alts than me, even if just barely, how is this possible
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>>122732942
Why are you asking such an inane question? If you want to use that cheatapk, do so. You're not worth a debate over whether one should use that or not.
If you do cheat though, just remember to cry like a raped bitch over here when they inevitably ban should so /fgo/ can have a small laugh or two at your expense.
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>>122733573
I don't even have an alt.
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>>122734045
>inevitable ban
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>>122734196
JP PaD banned those who used cheats in the past. It's bound to happen, no matter how many bait images you use.
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>>122733573
Old phones.
I only have 1 alt but I consider it my 2nd main since I work on it just as much.
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I want to get into this game, I'm a HUGE Cu fan and I was wondering if anyone has a spare account with all 3 versions of him that wouldnt mind giving out? [email protected]
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>>122734349
>comparing PAD with FGO
Hint: Only one of them has good devs and management
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>>122734637
neither of them have good devs you stupid cunt
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>>122734637
You stumped me which one?
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>>122734576
Begging never gets you anywhere.
You get caster cu for free after fuyuki.
Lancer cu is a 3* so easy to roll.

There aren't any other cu's as of now
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>>122734637
>PaD
>good devs
Good joke anon.
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>>122734684
>>122734692
Maybe I'm biased due to seeing DW as the norm now
But compared to DW, the PAD devs clearly know what they are doing.
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>>122734719
Yeah there's Prototype Cu but alright, what are my chances of rolling both him and normal Cu?
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>>122734805
no

they are both objectively fucking retarded
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>>122734814
They're only 3* out of five. The caster is guaranteed and it's pretty easy to get the others.
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>>122734814
Riiight forgot about that one.
Both normal and proto are 3*. 3*servants have 40% chance in the gacha. Plus they can appear in the FP gacha, although rare
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>>122734910
>>122734938

I see, should I re-roll if I dont get them by the end of the first scenario or wait till I finish the story?
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>>Most successful cell phone game ever made
BETTER CALL THE DEVS RETARDED.
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>>122734992
You'll get them eventually if you just play the game normally

Source: I have all three Cu
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Do the CEs that increase "arts card performance" increase NP gain? Likewise, do the ones that increase "quick card performance" give more stars?
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>40ap
>wave 1 dragons all get crits
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>>122734992
I'm in a good mood so I dusted off some of my old reroll accounts in a notepad I found.
There is one account that has 2 copies of FSN Cu, and probably some CEs. It also dates back to the first month of the game, so it should have a fuckton of gems or something by now too.
No proto cu though but I doubt you'll complain
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>>122735224
Pretty sure they just increase damage
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>>122735326
Proto Cu has a rate up right now anyway
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Oh fuck me, when did these new summoning tickets appear in the shop? Been just hoarding my prisms because fuck getting a bunch of sparkledogs one by one for 30 a pop.
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>>122735470
Yesterday.
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>>122735326
Thank you Spreadsheet anon!
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>>122735595
Just remember to change the name and gender if you wish and read the OP/FAQ
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>>122735281
>a serious VN
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>>122735725
I will, ty
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>>122735224
Art CEs definitely increase NP gained
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>>122735737
>Ataraxia
>Serious
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>>122735224
More arts damage definitely means more NP gauge being built
More quick damage MIGHT mean more stars

The CEs that specifically provide an increase to NP gauge charging faster or "increase star rate" are definitely more effective though
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>>122735737
Ass to mouth is serious business
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>>122735181
Isn't that Angry Birds?
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>>122736039
Damage does not affect neither NP gain or crit star gain. They are tied to modifiers and number of attacks.
That said, arts card boosting CEs apparently affects the modifier or something. I haven't bothered to check any source for this so go figure it out yourself from the OP
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>>122736193
>apparently
>info was datamined that it does four months ago
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>>122736182
candy crush saga
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>>122736326
Yes. Apparently. As in I haven't bothered to check up on any of this shit since the start. I am going by what people have written in these threads. I have not checked any of these datamines myself and I'd rather not give my word on something that I haven't checked up on myself
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>>122736182
Depends on country but candy crush is one of the most succesful in western countries whilst puzzles and dragons is one of the most succesful in asian countries
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>number crunching in a mobage
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>>122736516
If you have no idea what you are talking about, why say anything?
People running their fat mouths is most of the reason this general is so shitty.
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>>122723849
Fastwheels surprisingly. Had he not encountered Arturia & Kerry, they would have faired much better.
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>>122736745
I'm literally telling him to go check the OP instead of taking my word for it
Is this some sort of reverse meme where the "read the op" fuckers get told to fuck off? ebin
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>>122736745
Ohhhhhh I always thought it was no content.
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>>122736795
You what
Kayneth would have had to change his entire personality for them to have a shot at winning, their compatibility was ass.
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>>122737020
Kayneth without Sola would be perfect. Deercunt "waga aru g" would just be Kayneth's tool with no diagreements
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>>122737013
That can't be it, because we had jetfag shitting up the general during the Okeanos release.
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So far I can tell that 40AP beats 30AP in all gold drops (gold skill gems, monuments and scales). Not even gonna bother checking 10AP and 20AP, since it doesn't seem like anyone cares about common drops.
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>>122736562
Yeah, but Asia is the smaller market in terms of profit than the globe so the most successful is Candy Crush or Clash of Clans.
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>>122737098
And? They still would have lost easily without Kayneth having a massive shift in goals and perspective.
Sola made shit worse but they weren't going to win anyway.
Compatibility is more then just no disagreements.
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>finally have all the tusks i need to ascend lancelot

mmm tasty
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Really, did Kayneth have any chance at all to win the war? Just having Kiritsugu and Kirei pretty much ensures he wouldn't even make it to the end.
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>>122737631
Not with that muh duel pride attitude
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>>122737631
Nasu made a checklist that gives him a guaranteed win.
And says Lancelot cant beat him.
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First for best girl.
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Which interlude should I do, guys?
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>>122737885
Both?
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>>122737856
You mean second best?
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i don't even like cake
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>>122737885
REGEND
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Turns out they are only lowering the difficulty of the 40 AP exp quest
They are also improving the drops of 10, 20 and 30 AP exp quests
Ascension quests are untouched

https://twitter.com/fgoproject/status/667224534617985024
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>>122738528
>They are also improving the drops of 10, 20 and 30 AP exp quests
Thank god. Hopefully they make 30 AP a decent spot for fou farming again.
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i want to roll the gggggggggacha
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>>122738528
Thank god
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>>122738528
nice, i'm worried they'll lower 40AP ascension because i can finally have fun with it
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>>122738574
I expect 30 AP will be mostly like before

>>122738683
>>122738632
I am glad we get to keep the ascension difficulty levels because fuck the people that are bad at the game and think BBCing everything with zerkers is the way to go
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>>122738528
>They aren't touching the ascension quests
Kill me now. But good on them for fixing the exp dailies
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>>122738528
>lowering the 40 AP dfficulty
Was it really that hard?
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>>122738951
It's hard for underleveled people, i.e. the ones who need exp in the first place.
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>>122738951
It wasn't hard but it took much too long for a daily.
Also 30ap was literal trash tier.
Basically they're listening to the newer players who can't do the 40ap and have to do the 30ap
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>>122738528
>boo hoo, this game's too fucking easy
>boo hoo, this game's too fucking hard
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>>122738528
>Turns out they are only lowering the difficulty of the 40 AP exp quest
They really weren't all that hard in the first place, it was only the drops in the other EXP dailies that needed the buff.

>Ascension quests are untouched
FUN IS PRESERVED
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>>122739030
Isn't that the point? You don't really need a ton of gold exp for lvl 40-50 party.
>>
Guy's they said the ascension quests are still being checked. They may be changed yet
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>>122739145
Not when 30ap gives 3-6 bronze exp it isn't.
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>>122739032
People want hard endgame content, not hard daily farming dungeons that you're have to do in order to power up your servants to be able to do hard content.
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>>122739145
30AP gives bronzes, think about it for a minute.
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>>122738916
>Kill me now
My pleasure.

>>122739032
I am happy they not messing with the ascension dailies you sick sack of shit

>>122739124
>FUN IS PRESERVED
Pic related

>>122739228
So do 30 AP.
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>>122739228
This. Make the events hard, the level 90 Halloween was fun.
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>>122739208
Wait what? There were 1-2 bronze EXP and 7-8 silver before daily change.
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>>122738781
Shit like Marie's Invuln + Regen skill spam is pretty nonsensical though. I mean I just stack Kintoki and Carmilla NPs to destroy her before she gets a chance to use her abilities, but it's still pretty nonsense that the safest way is to burst immediately.
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>>122739385
People are killing Marie with just 2 servants + a support. The nips are making a contest out of who can beat Marie with the weakest servants available.
And before you claim it's full lvl 90s
It was two 2*s and a Jeanne

So people need to stop being total shit and git fucking gud
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>>122739385
My strategy was to just park my Assassin at the very back end of my party so that when they finally showed up on the field it would just be them and Marie so I could brave-chain through the invuln and NP spam her to death.

It was pretty easy really, and it didn't matter who you ended up with once you finally got to Marie.
>>
How bad is it that I beat all of the story content without knowing you could switch targets?
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>>122739481
>and a jannu
You do know jannu completely xounters marie right?
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>>122739568
Not really that bad nowadays since high level support carries are a thing and France is nerfed.
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>>122739595
Clearly that is why people in this thread are still getting reckt by Marie with a Jeanne present

Wait, you're right
Those people are just shit at using Jeanne

Even so, taking Marie down with George, Hassan and Jeanne is somewhat impressive
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>>122739481
Are they beating it with servants that aren't max ascended, though?
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>>122722457
I missed you.
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>>122740154
You can get to max ascension without doing 40 AP with 2 servants + support
So that's not the point whatsoever
30 AP is not that much worse than 40 AP and people's idiotic fixation on being able to do 40 AP when clearly they lack the units and the gud to actually know how to play is the cause of all this shitty whining
That you /can/ do it with two max ascended 2*s and a support means you can also do it with a bunch of 1-2 ascended 3*s and a support

People need to learn how to calculate the remaining deck, NP gains and shit.
They need to do one thing in general
Stop being shit at the game
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>>122740494
>30 ap is okay to do goy
DW apologist pls stop
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>>122740494
This isn't gonna happen with half of the people using cheat apk and skipping the gameplay and a good amount of the rest being zerker shits. Just face it, the faggots here aren't gonna give the gameplay much thought. Only the nips will.
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>>122740494
>2 max ascended 2* who were tailor made to beat this stage
Until you do it yourself, your arguements have no merit.
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>>122740494
>30 AP is not that much worse than 40 AP
>when half of the 30AP drops are bronze EXPs
>>
The only hard thing about the 40 ap is the cunt spamming invincibility, other than that I like the difficulty
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>>122739481
>needing 3 servants, one of which is level 90 to beat 40ap stage when someone in this general has beaten the whole stage solo with non max ascended servant
http://m.imgur.com/a/FKcey
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I kinda hope they'll even out the difficulty of the 40 AP ascension quests. Normally its a cakewalk but occasionally you'll get lucky/unlucky and get stuck with a 200k HP boss that eats up your NPs before the real fight. Would be nice if they buffed the normal 2nd wave and toned down the HP of the random Gold drop guy a bit.
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>>122740494
>30 ap is okay
Do you work for DW?
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>>122740572
>>122740775
>>122740938
30 AP ascension
What the fuck is wrong with you illiterate assholes?

>>122740708
>half the people using cheatapk
Wow, that is some delusions alright. It's closer to 5%, if even that
Every time I mention cheatapk outside of this thread, people ask me what I am talking about

>>122740843
>People are doing this and here is an example
>YOU REQUIRE THIS
Learn to read
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>>122740494
I got a single dragon scale in 64 runs of 30AP. It's pretty fucking shit, man.
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>>122740969
>5%
You clearly do not know how much this general and 2ch use it.
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>>122740876
Pretty much, 280+k boss after a 200k boss is not fun, at least make the Servant at the end 150K or make both 200k or something.
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>>122740494
30 ap is okay goy, don't worry. You don't need to ascend your characters within this month.
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>>122741073
Vocal minorities
A vast majority of the players do not go to 4chan or 2ch

>>122741036
No Dragon Scale in 51 runs of 40 AP, it's pretty fucking shit, man

>>122741158
Learn to read, faggot
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>>122740494
>30 AP is okay
Keked
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>>122740969
>complains about others not being able to read
>doesn't reas himself
Based hypocritical autist, you're almost as bad as spreadsheet autist and whoever runs rgw/lols discord in your autism
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>30 AP xp quest
Wew
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>>122741391
>I got called out on my shit, quick, let's project it on that guy to make me look less stupid
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>>122741412
Jesus christ they made it literally useless. Bravo DW.
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>>122741412
>2 golds
Wow.
I got 6 bronze, 2 silvers and 1 gold before I decided that 30 ap is retarded even for farming fou.
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>everyone ignoring that they officially announced they will buff the drops from 10, 20 and 30 AP and continues to whine about it

Nothing less from a general that is full of exceedingly retarded people
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>>122741462
Oh the irony
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>>122741571
Just stop trying
You can play the game of "project the projected projection" etc for all eternity but it will only make you look dumber with every post
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>>122722252
My daughteru
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>>122740494
>calculate the remaining deck
What? Are you implying that you draw from a limited amount of cards, instead of getting 5 completely random cards each round? Can't find anything about a mechanic like this in the wiki, pastebin or spreadsheet.
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>>122741556
They better either remove bronze hands completely or at least noticeably reduce their appearance rate in 30 AP.
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>>122741641
Whats funny is your love of pointing out perceived errors of others whilst being blind to your own issues.
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>>122741673
You have 15 cards, 5 for each servant
You get 5 random cards out of those 15 for the first turn
Then you get 5 random cards of the remaining 10 for the second turn
Then the 5 leftovers for the third turn

This is super easy to prove by just noting down your active servants cards and then crossing out the stuff you used

After turn 3, it is shuffled again and you get 5 random cards from 15 again

See image
This is a confirmed mechanic and is essential to not sucking at the game because it lets you know what cards you can get in turn 2 and will get in turn 3

>>122741678
Probably just make the new 30 AP the old 30 AP with more HP
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>>122741673
3 servants = 15 card deck, you draw 5 of them per turn and then it's reshuffled. 3 turn cycle.

that's the tl;dr anyway
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>>122741896
I wish there was a turn counter in the game, sometimes I'm not paying attention and then I forgot what turn I'm on.
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>>122741896
Wtf am I staring at?
thats 100% wrong and everyone that plays the game can tell you
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How long is this gonna take me?
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>>122742061
try it out
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>>122741896
Are you sure?
I'm 90% sure this is NOT how it works.
thanks if its real and nkt a meme
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>>122742061
All that cheatapk has muddled your brain or what's left of it
Everyone knows about this and knows it's accurate

Now fuck off to reddit or whatever ridiculous shit place you crawled out of
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>>122741896
>tfw did not know this till now and had been playing since gil event
Thanks anon
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>>122741896
This is... wrong on so many levels
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>>122741896
And how exactly you're supposed to use that? By just executing various chains asap since you won't get them next turn?
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>>122742153
Why would it work otherwise? They even show you each servants deck in their status, so it is clearly important.
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>>122742098
About 2-3 ap bars of 125ap.
Okeanos 14 ap golems drop them moderately frequently
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>>122742258
Fuck off retard.
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>>122742310
Thought the deck was reshuffled each time so servant deck only mattered if you want lots of buster/arts/quick chains
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>>122741896
>This is a confirmed mechanic and is essential to not sucking at the game because it lets you know what cards you can get in turn 2 and will get in turn 3

Does it really help that much? I've been aware of it forever, but counting is just too much effort, especially since knowledge of your next set of cards doesn't seem very useful when the best selection out of any hand is fairly obvious.
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>>122742153
Just test it out yourself, good god
How do people not notice this? Literally how. Are you a panda or something? A bear? Playing with bear hands?

>>122742295
If you are seriously asking this and not just baiting, you should move to an easier game like angry birds

>>122742258
Fuck off retard
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>>122742295
It lets you make an educated guess as to what you will get next turn. By counting the cards, you can know if it is possible to make a chain next turn or not and plan your skill usage and target priority accordingly.
It is also important when choosing which servants to pair, stacking one card gives you lots of chain bonuses, but might make your tactics less flexible.

Of course, this doesn't matter unless the fight is an actual challenge. But at least it adds more depth than a purely random system would.
>>
cheatapkfags don't play the game past the first turn so of course they don't know how the game works
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>>122742437
i've never known about this and I've been fine the whole game.
Beat all of the final event maps quite easily with level 70ish team stuck in ascension hell.
New dailies have been pretty easy too due to only one class.
This game is much too easy to need to know or notice shit like that
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>>122742528
Does it even make that much of difference seeing the first turn cards are always by mercy of RNG and you can't even shuffle deck?
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>>122742528
As far as I can tell, it makes nearly no difference except for a few skills
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>>122742437
Nope, that's not a bait and I'm genuinely interested. Since I'm pretty much sure that it's useless on practice, especially if you need to write your deck down every turn. Teach me, senpai.
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>>122742418
I know I will get a BBC next turn
I have Lancelot
So obviously I try for as many crit stars as possible this turn so he can wreck massive damage

I know I will get two arts cards with Waver next turn. He has NP ready. So I know I can do a ABC, so I adjust my plans accordingly

Infinite etcs

>>122742528
>Of course, this doesn't matter unless the fight is an actual challenge

40 AP ascension daily for example. Knowing your card lineup actually helps.

>>122742604
Sure thing, whatever you say.
Is this the new baiting?

>>122742668
Having an educated guess of turn 2 and knowing for sure what's in turn 3 is pretty significant compared to full on RNG for all 3 turns
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>>122722817
s-sauce? Google gives nothing.
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>>122742758
>Need to write it down
It's not hard to actually memorize what deck your servant has and then cross out stuff in your head

I use this all the time to decide when to use NPs, what NPs to build and when to grab quick stars and such. Also when to use skills. There are too many examples and possibilities to make any specific one.
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>>122742863
>what is sad panda
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>>122742295
Here's another example since these geniuses can't think of ways to take advantage of knowing what cards are coming up:

Use Drake's NP on a turn where she didnt draw an art card, then next turn she can use her crits on art cards to gain obscene amounts of NP and literally charge back to full in one turn.
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>>122723904
Irrelevant you fucking faggot.
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>>122741896
Wait this is actually a thing?
Didn't know till now
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>>122742973
Just give me the fucking sauce, cockmongler.
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>>122743273
This should go fine with Alter.
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>>122743273
It's on fucking pixiv, even. It's not hard to find.
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>>122742770
>>122742528

Fair enough. My team is a simple Buster/Arts focus with NP CEs and simple attack bonus skills, so honestly the only timing I need to pop them is checking if my NP is ready, if I have a good target to hit and if I have two other cards to make a brave chain. The knowledge of the existence of rotations almost guarantees the last condition within 2 turns.

Planning out crit distributions are useless when you don't really generate stars.
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About NPs, does it when you place them in a chain?
Does an Arts NP get a bonus from an Arts Chain?
Does putting an NP at the end of a chain of normal cards increase the damage?
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>>122741896
>you actually use the whole deck, then shuffle it
>you don't just have a static 1/3 chance for a servant, X/15 chance for Buster, etc.

If the deck actually behaves like a deck of cards instead of a d15, I will be very happy.
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>>122741896
Thank you based anonymous, learn something new about the game everyday
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>>122743839
This is not theory
This is proven, solid, understood game mechanics
There are no if's here of any kind

>>122743804
If you use a NP that is arts and form an arts chain with it, you get +20% to your NP. And it gets reduced to 0 because you use it.
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>>122743804
Tfw its been 3 months and STILL no-one knows how nps work, not even dataminers can find out
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>>122744228
Naked Mashu when?
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>>122744228
Woah Mashu
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>>122744228
Nice delusions, DW.
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>>122744228
>mashu actually stripped due to not tellingg gudako anything she didn't know in the previous comic
Ayy lmao. The fact they're joking about themselves and how they seem to never provide useful information in those tidbits to the players make it even more lolsy.
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>>122744228
In the year 2016 F/GO is worth playing and successful?
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>>122744228
>fgo being popular
Ebic, also, translations when?
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>>122744228
Olga is so cute why does she have to be dead, fuck fuck fuck
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>>122744834
Well, it is. Just for the wrong reasons.
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>>122744753
If they fix the gacha this year, sure.
>>
Christmas Miracle event
Single currency event, with a feature where you get more points each time you replay the same stage, with a 50 AP, lvl 90 stage providing the biggest overall points

You can get a ton of ascension mats
Or you can save all of your points and buy a Olga Demi Servant at the very end


10/10 would save points
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>>122744228

>Mashu: In the past 3 months we covered all the fundamentals.
>Gudako: Let's look at the Chaldea and see how history was changed.
>Gudako: Th-this is!
>The year 2016
>FGO is in its greatest boom!!
>Guy: FGO is fun
>Th-that's the director!!
>Olga: Please try FGO~
>The director is going all out to promote FGO!!
>Gudako: The future was saved!!
>Mashu: Thank you, director!
>Olga in the sky: The future is carved out with our own hands...
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>>122745062
So that they can sell more quartz with a time limited 5* Olga servant.
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>>122745602
>Guy: FGO is fun
This is how you know it's in some alternate reality future
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>>122745746
That must be bizaro world because FGO is the anti-thesis of fun
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>>122745893
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>>122745602
Thanks based anon
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>>122745946
This is the average FGO player
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30 AP in one picture
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Can't even do FP rolls without this jew showing up. Fuck off already, your rate up is over.
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>>122746186
At least you can sell him and get tickets later right?
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>>122746154
You think 40 AP is better?
Anon, please.
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>>122746305
I have no idea which one is better, but since Marie is blockhealing like crazy I figured the 30 AP to be better timewise
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>>122746302

I only need hearts and talons to ascend my current servants, so i figured i might aswell get all the 2* and 3* i can and use them on the new ascension dailies, because, you know, nothing else to do.

35 FP rolls got me him, Boudica and Jing Ke.
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So casters and demons after this right?
Who's hoping they choose medea lily of zero damage for an easy daily?
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>>122746664
it'll be Waver of single digit damage
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>>122746664
>we heard everyone was complaining about the dailies being too hard
>so we made it medea lily
>we also heard people complain about RNG
>so we decided to remove RNG and permanently set wave 3 as Medea Lily + 2 100k demons, glhf
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>>122741896

What if you have only 2 servants? Reset every 2 turn?
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>>122744228
>>122745602
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>>122746915
You won't get any cards during your 3rd turn
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>>122746915
Yes
That is why with 1 servant you get the same 5 cards every turn
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>>122747002
I want to bring Olga home and make her a mother.
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>>122747002

>ded person promoting a ded gaem
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>>122747094
like pottery
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>>122747002
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>>122747218
What's the difference
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>>122747568
Olga becomes cuter.
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>>122747568
Are you blind?
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>>122747568
I corrected a thing
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I know the chance for this is increased, but it still triggers me.
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>>122747803
>rate up
>still only getting success
>only get great or super success one level before the limit

Working as intended!
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>>122747803
>do 5 golds at once
>success
>do Fou
>SUPER SUCCESS
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>>122741657
Sorry for late reply, father in law. Honey took her time changing before coming to visit you.
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>37th run
>finally a dragon
>drops a skill gem
This game is fucking garbage
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>>122747803

This has to be on purpose.
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>>122748267
Jeez, all they need to do is give the dragon 100% droprate on the scale and increase his spawn chance by a bit, then everyone is happy
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Why is herc the best berserker?
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>>122748936
>reverse s growth curve
>needing excessive amounts of hard to get acsension materials
>jack of all trades master of none
Hes not the best berserker, kintoki is.
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I am REALLY regretting taking Cake instead of Carmilla in that 4* giveaway.
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>>122749064
Cake is cuter and other Assassins can fill the same niche as Carmilla
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>>122748214
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>>122749360
Only carmillia out of the assassins can solo the whole 40ap event by herself.


Don't know why the guy is complaining about owning cake when he'll be needing her for whatever tomorrow is.
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>>122749414
Because she has laid, abandoned at lvl 30, ever since I got Medusa. Who in turn is 60 now.
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>>122749064
>People shit taking that I got Carmilla as my free servant instead of Emiya or Cake

I'm glad I got my third favorite assassin. I just need to start levelling her up. I think I might actually ascend her completely since I probably won't get my favorite or second favorite.
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>>122749579
Motivator for you anon:
http://imgur.com/a/FKcey
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>>122749559
>not teaming Medusa up with Cake and another quick-based Servant for an effective Quick team
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>>122749847
>wanting to be raped by assassins
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>>122749690
Seen that already, it's nice.

I'm mostly playing this game to have all my favorite servants together, even if they suck and the game is hard. So seeing feats like that is fine but I prioritize getting the dream team over effectiveness.
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Maintenance later.
http://typemoon.com/news/2015/6lsqmy
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>>122750386
1 Quartz 1 Apple
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>>122750386
TL anybody? Typemoon's website is blocked by my government so yeah I'm too lazy to use proxy or whatever
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>>122750502
>blocked by my government
What kind of crazy shithole do you even live in?
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>>122748307
Why the fuck those Four-kuns even have that Super/Great Success chance?
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>>122739228
40AP isn't even hard, I farm first wave for NP and then use Alter and Tama Cat NP on waves 2 and 3. Everything gets 1 shot past first wave which is easy to deal with.
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>>122750724
You never faced Fafnir?
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One thing I want to see is Achilles Lily

As in Achilles before Troy that Tethis made him crossdress and take the name Phyrra

It would be hilarious
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>>122750502
basically about how they'll fix exp daily, maintenance starts at 22:59, 1 gem and 1 apple as compensation
internet positif?
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>>122750386

I can't wait.
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>>122750824
What kind of 'fix'? Did they mention it?
ya
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>>122751006
see >>122738528
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>>122750989
Nips are gold for making this.
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>>122741896
This doesn't explain the most important part of this and that is when a servant leaves/enters your front line. It's very easy to have this entire thing become convoluted as fuck if someone dies.
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>>122750752
>face the dragon
>lose frontline despite NP spamming
>barely win the whole thing because my support was Jeanne and Marie's buddy was Boudica
The dragon needs the nerf more than Marie does.
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>>122751279
Or his droprate should be atleast 100% on dragon scales, noone needs the golden skill gems, since the first black dragon in the first wave drops it like almost every single time
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>>122751218
>when a servant leaves/enters your front line.
It's restarted back to turn 1.
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>can't get any 4-5 stars servants during drake event
>event ends
>roll for kicks
>pirate lesbians
I don't even know.
Anyway I think they should have been Archer. At least the other pirate Riders have their ship as NP (even if Teach doesn't actually have Riding either), these two don't even own a ship and their NP is shooting a guy with a gun.
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>>122751419
>Archer
>not using a bow
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>>122751419
They "rode" each other and lots of men.
Do you seriously not know their legend?
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>>122750752
Gintoki stuns him on turn 1 as he eats 3 NP then dies on turn 2 or is left severely crippled to the point where the replacements finish easily.

That said he isn't an exp daily so I don't fight him often regardless. 99% of my time is spent fighting hands.
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>>122751629
>my post is randomly deleted
Uwut, anyhow I'll say it again.
They're riders because they "rode" each other and lots of men
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>>122751279
Yeah, the Fafnir, Chimera type should've only have 100k health or something. Fighting 200k+ HP boss back to back is not fun.
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>>122751636
Those EXP dailies are a joke, and you were boasting about being able to finish them with ease? Alright, you make no sense.
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>>122751636
>Golden Spark stun ever actually working
Roll a single.
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>>122751636
>30% chance stun working
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>>122751979
>Eating Euryale
Why? Why would you so such a thing?
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ded
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>>122752590
Game
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>>122725140
Why don't we combine all of /fgog/'s drop stats. We could get a big enough sample size on many maps with our combined efforts.

But what's the best way to do this? Send screenshots to one guy who makes the stats so that we can be more sure the stats are correct? Or make a spreadsheet everyone can edit where each person adds one row of data to a map and then protects their own addition?
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Are some servant designs movie-inspired? Because the only time I've ever seen Mozart represented with that kind of big hat was the poster for Amadeus.
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>>122753238
They're inspired from many things.
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>>122753238
>Leonidas
>Darius
>>
Rolled for Waver today, anon?
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Damn I need gears but I don't know where to get it. Spreadsheet says that it can't be farmed yet.
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>>122753412
Darius isn't the Persian from 300. Completely different guy.
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>>122753526
I know. Type-Moon doesn't know.
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>>122753582
They have too, they have Leonidas and Alexander in the same game with different rivals.
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>>122753582
They know, they just didn't give a shit. Probably because they ARE from the same empire and only about 100 years apart.
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>>122754062
Does Leonidas think that Darius is way stronger than Xerxes? Were there some interactions between them in Rome?
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>>122754208
He shouldn't, since Xerxes shits all over Darius the coward.
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>>122754328
>Disengage A
What a pussy.
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>>122751561
>use a bow
>explode
No thanks.
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>>122754719
>he doesn't have Nightless Rose
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>>122749875
There's not enough gangbang porn with Zayd.
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>>122754823
You still explode, you just walk it off.
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>>122754901
And how is that not the most badass thing?
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>>122754948
You just explode again right afterwards, you can't exactly brag to your mates at the pub about it.
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>>122754719
I want this bomb to protect me.
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>>122754948
>139 quartz
>20 tickets
Yet no motivation whatsoever to roll.
Hows your hoarding going /fgog/?
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>>122755573
0 quartz 0 tickets here.
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>>122741896
Nice guide, I'll add it to the faq.
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>>122752915
An everyone edit spreadsheet will just get vandalized by le ebin trolls from reddit

That's what spawned the current spreadsheet anon
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>>122755573
125 quartz and 10 tickets, most of the tickets are still in the shop but eh I'll get them before they expires.
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>>122755934
Not to defend reddit or anything, but you know as well as I do that the home-grown shitposters will be over that just as fast as, if not faster than, reddit.
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I wonder if the Archer Ascension 40ap daily can be done if you don't have Liz and you only have a level 40 Cu.
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>>122756176
Should be fine, just get someone in your friendlist to carry you.
Jannu, herc and kintoki can also easily beat whoever the boss is if you leave them in the backline
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>>122756176
My Casko at level 80 almost made it through the rider one.
If you're not depending on a high level saber you should be fine. Especially if your team has some synergy (I got 3 NP chains off before Casko got rekt by the glass horse).
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Hey guys, check out my Ex-rank luck!!
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Will I have to wait until May for him?
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>>122756491
>Jannu, herc and kintoki can also easily beat whoever the boss is if you leave them in the backline
Unforunately, I am depending on Alter most of the time
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>>122756563
If he comes via the story and not an event, likely longer.
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>>122756176
Today's daily is only "hard" because of constant invulnerable.
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>>122756521
Awesome my friend, sunday soon
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>>122756610
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>>122756631
Of course it is. Though that pose a question, what if the fatal battle is with EMIYA who spams evasion?
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>>122756631
And yesterday's was "hard" because of Lancelot oneshotting all but the tankiest of Servants.

Archer dailies should be fairly difficult because of dealing with a 280k boss that charges their NP in 3 turns.
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Every fucking time
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>>122756685
Didn't notice it with Lancelot.
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>>122756631
Archer and Assassin would be harder because they can charge their NP in just 3 turns, now combine it with 200k+ HP.

And if they're Carmilla and Gil make it 2 max.
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>>122756746
Hope you have Taiga CEs or a Kojiro/Drake.
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How good are my chances of getting Rider pieces on the 30 AP? I only need 18 more.
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>>122757057
>Rider pieces
One or two for every run
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>>122756947
Ganbatte, anon-kun!!
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>>122757093
Huh. That's better than I thought.
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>>122756981
>carmillia assassin boss
>250k+ health
>charges np in two turns max, normally 1 turn
>iron maiden boosts her attack and that can stack, it also kills waifu teams
Are you guys prepared for hell?
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>>122757115
Why do I want to fuck Euryale whenever she makes that face?
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Anyone who has the marie edit on the skeleton taking 0 damage?
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>>122757164
Becasue you're an M and you want her to step on your dick while smiling smugly. Just like me.
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>>122757139
0 if you get monument though
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>>122756981
I doubt Assassin would be that much of a problem since almost everyone here got Caster Liz. Moreso if people rolled for their Casko. People are going to have a problem more with Archer especially if the final enemy is Emiya who spams evasion and with an NP that reduces damage. Unless you have a Lancer Liz or a berserker, I doubt it would be easy.

Personally speaking, I'm also worried that I'll be able to do it since my strongest is Alter. Though I'm confident that I'll be able to breeze through Lancer Ascension.
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>>122757141
shininasai
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>>122757206
Here:
>>122677149
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>>122757141
I'm literally fucked, my team are all females.
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>>122757009
I have a Taiga CE. However, I don't have any damage dealer for Archer team.
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>>122757278
Thank you~
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>>122757221
This pleases my dick.
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>>122757141
Yfw everyone brings male servants to counter carmillia and stheno of male-insta death instead.
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>>122757245
>Caster Liz has shitty stats and is female
RIP
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>>122757368
Not even a Berserker?
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>>122757425
>implying it won't be both together
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>>122757429
>Caster Liz has shitty stats
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>>122757141
>my best Servants are female
>only male Servants I have are so weak that they'd die to the NP anyway due to low rarity
I think I can deal.
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>>122757392
As it should.
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>>122757445
As shameful as it is, I lack shoes to CE my Lu Bu and Kiyohime is not really that efficient. Because of that, most of my support end up being berserkers with Kaleid.
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>>122757554
>8,616 atk with 0.9 atk modifier
SO GOOD
Just because she's the highest atk 4* Caster doesn't mean it's good when all Casters have horrible stats.
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>>122757578
P-please stop. I don't want to feel like this.
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>>122757141
You forget she drains np at the same time as building her own np along with her np healing her.
Not to mention theres probably also a 250k demon with the always crit triple hit before that as well depending on ones luck
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>>122757221
>>122757578
What a disgusting slut
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>>122757648
You cant stop this ride, you're her slave.

>>122757720
>Pure maiden*
ftfy
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>>122757717
>Demon
>Caster-type enemy
>in Assassin daily
What?
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>>122757720
Anon pls
you're a disgusting slut.
>>
>>122757578
Why is Euryale much more useful that Stheno? It seems like Stheno's purpose is to spread her legs into male servants. Does she also spread her legs into centaurs? Hope DW at least boost Stheno.
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>>122757762
T-then can she stomp harder? I want to feel like a slave.
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>>122757763
Apologise, brain had a derp.
Whats the assassin big boss than?
Rider has fafnir, berserker has chimera, caster has demons.
What does the rest have?
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>>122757717
Demon is a Caster anon.
It will be Robespierre ghost instead
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>>122757579
It's OK. My best Berserker is Lu Bu, too. I actually have Herc, but I don't know if 9 apples is enough to max him out. Also, I personally don't like him enough to level him.
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>>122757827
Halloween quests had an Assassin dragon.
Otherwise either a ghost or homunculus I guess.
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>>122757789
Which is exactly why I can immediately tell one apart
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Posting best snake.
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Guys, if there's no Horseshoes today, does that mean we won't get Pages, Babies and Gears as well but there'll be 3 days for Plumes?
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>>122757853
>not liking the objectively best Berserker
>>/reddit/
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>>122757813
Anon, she will crush your puny little cock with a great big smile.

>>122757803
Mostly because she's easier to get making her NP easy to level up. That and her NP is just spam-able as fuck.

>>122757943
You mean second best right? of course you do.
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>>122757878
>Homunculus
On one hand, finally, Homunculus Babies.

On the other hand, fuck, annoyingly tough enemies that leech HP.

>>122757958
Don't fucking start.
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>>122757945
Yes. There is little to no chance of gears or pages.
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>>122757969
>You mean second best right? of course you do.
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>>122757958
>wanting to start shit
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>>122757945
Most likely. If DW won't even put already implemented enemy, there's little chance they would make new enemies for them. Wait for London I guess.
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>>122757945
Seems like it.

Not that I mind. I'd probably grind Centaur Island for those damn things anyway. At least I'd waste less AP that way.
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First for best girl.
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>>122758051
>London's icon is literally intersecting gears
>won't have farmable gears
I'd laugh so hard.
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>>122758065
>500 posts in
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>>122758051
They don't need to implement new enemies though. Look at Blackbeard's Interlude.
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>>122758037
>trying to beat the twins at smugness

>>122758065
She truly is second best.
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>>122758171
This pic is an eyesore.
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>>122757969
I don't think that is just it.

NP: Euryale > Stheno (unless you fight with male servants all the time)
Skills: Euryale = Stheno
Stats: Euryale < Stheno

Stheno's saving grace is only her stat since she's a 4*. However, her stat's not that good for a 4*. Her NP is a disaster since I would assume that Assassins mostly have Quick as their NP. Really, just downgrade Stheno as a 3* or buff her up.
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>>122758154
As far we can tell this 'Chaldea renewal' is just a rehash of the old dailies with those same exact enemies but with a new name and more-- focused. So most likely even if they don't need to make new enemies if they're not in the old dailies, they won't show up now.
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>>122758318
Euryale actually functions as a 3* archer.
Stheno doesn't function as a 4* assassin.
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>>122758439
No no no it's not a rehash it's new content. Yorokobe works genberously gave us this month's new content with the chaldea renewal
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>>122758065

I want to go to a pool with Medusa!
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>>122757827
it could be a new mob with gear/page or other nonfarmable yet item as a drop
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>>122758272
>Shiki
Oh please, that guy wouldn't even be able to kill Shirou.

>>122758318
Well, either way i just use servants because i like them. It really doesn't bother me whether ones better than the other though i'd have to agree with >>122758489 .
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>>122758318
>>122758489
I still don't get how Stheno's 4*. Is she that slightly more popular than Euryale and Medusa?
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>>122737856
>>122757943
>>122758037
>>122758065
>>122758565
BEST
E
S
T
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>>122758862
She was said to be the strongest and most violent of the three, so my guess is that's why.
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>>122758862
iirc she's the older / first sister of the bunch or some shit like that.
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>>122758862
They obviously needed more 4* assassins
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>>122758862
Stheno and Euryale were literal nobodies before Grand Order, while Medusa has been one of the most popular servants for a decade.
Its completely arbitrary.
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>>122758934
Medusa is the strongest and most violent by a gigantic margin.
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>>122758862
There was a need for 4* assassins. Meanwhile, Medusa is old and busted while Cake and Martha are the new hotness.
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>>122759006
Aren't they supposed to be unsummonable by the normal fate system? It's just a way to ride the rider train.
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>>122759005
If they wanted another 4* Assassin that badly, they could have added in Jekyll. I'm sure he'd be a hit with a fujoshis, even if he'd take forever to appear story-wise.
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>>122759096
No, read the story Sthenno was the only one of the three who deliberately went out of their way to kill people just for the fun of it.
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>>122759217
In Nasuverse Stheno and Euryale killed nobody. They didn't even have a way to do it to begin with.
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>>122759096
Nah, Stheno actually killed people for fun.
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Is there any TM character who could handle Manaka's bantz?
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>>122759158
>>122759005
>they needed multiple four star assassins
>four star casters, five star lancers and assassins and riders
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>>122759158
She doesn't feel like a 4* assassin though. She doesn't even have a 3rd skill
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>>122759289
ORT and Crimson moon.
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>>122759303
It's like that with Nero and Martha too. Which is weird in Nero's case, since I figure she'd be popular enough for them to at least try with her.
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>>122759291
>five star lancers

You mean gold lancers in general
>Enkidu, Karna, Tights and Yandere event only.
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>mfw my team is three riders
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>>122759286
>>122759217
Stheno is sadistic but she never killed anyone, she was as weak as a baby. They were completely and utterly defenseless without Medusa, who ended up losing to bloodthirst, even almost doing it in Ataraxia.
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>>122755934
But wouldn't it work as good as the friendlist spreadsheet where people protect their own additions? Doesn't the owner have the ability to remove protections from shitters that wouldn't follow the rules?

The other option is to gather screenshots from people and one person collates the data. A vandal would have to construct a believable screenshot or spam the same one multiple times in order for the data to be polluted. Requiring the image of the whole game screen and not just the drops would provide some protection against multiple additions of the same drops.
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>>122733573
why not just play another game and have a drink while your AP recharges. There's no reason for this much suffering.
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>>122759303
Meh, lots of 4 stars don't have a third skill.
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>>122759407
I just need one, ONE(1), fucking horseshoe and it refuses to drop.
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>>122759407
Your face looks like a buttcrack.
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>>122759419
Yeah well, but at least make her servant skill different from Euryale who's a 3* or add a third skill.
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>>122759276
>>122759409
Hmm, reading up on it she wasn't like that in nasuverse. Well, maybe they still decided to just go with that for the sake of a stronger assassin.
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>5 Gils
How?
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>>122759552
>but at least make her servant skill different from Euryale
I thought they make it mostly identical because of twins and whatnot.
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>>122759567
Its literally arbitrary.
True Assassin would be a better fit.
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>>122759567
It's because they are too hot for their own good. The hotter the servant, the higher their stars.
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>>122759674
>Mata Hari and Kojirou are one star
Nah
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>>122759743
Wrong kind of hot. Kojirou is cool, but cool doesn't win points.
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>>122759674
David should've been a 5* then.
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Time to max Medusa, so I could breeze through caster daily when it arrives.
>>122759534
You should lift your gaze.
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>>122759634
>ghost_holding_up_google_play_cards.jpg
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>this thread
Pretty comfy.
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>>122759783
No, Kojirou is hot
I would fuck him, no homo
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>>122759674
Mashu should be 5* then,
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>>122759674
That's a lie.
The entire Lancer class would be made up of 5*'s save for the few like Romulus and Benkei.
Liz would also probably remain a 4*, she's cute but not hot and it's better that way.
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Maintenance in a few minutes.
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>>122759817
You can thank the sisters.
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>>122759902
They will, so people will spend money rolling for them.
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>>122759902
Romulus is the single sexiest Servant.
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>>122759802
Why is Ushi so perfect?
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Maint in 5 minutes.
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>>122759998
How long is it?
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>>122760048

1 Hour + the time it'll take to fix whatever they break during it.
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>>122759989
Probably because fun.
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>>122759962
I won't acknowledge such a statement until I see what hair cut lies beneath that helmet.
What if Romulus is bald?
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>>122760145
Hint, that's not a horn.
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>>122760145
>not liking bald
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>Got Drake to 90 right as maint started

EX timing
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>tfw no level 80 Carmilla on friends list
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Just watched Fate/Zero. Well, shit is kinda depressing, with exemptions of Waver and Kirei no one achieved anything and everybody ended up depressed/dead. That's a prequel for you, I guess.
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>>122760145
>What if Romulus is bald?
Even better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOqIngh_-_A
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>>122760334
You're a liar, anon.
You would not dare kiss the shimmering bald head of ROMA.
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>>122760517
And now you know why Saber behaves like an emotionally dead robot for the first half or so of FSN.
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>>122760517
The Butcher strikes again
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>>122759674
Medusa should be a 6* then.
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>>122759674
Jeanne would be a 10* then.
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>>122760545
>implying I wouldn't
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>>122760517
Most of them got their wish though. Fastwheels got his duel, Kooru master got to see his blood, Kiritsugu got to save the world.
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>>122760756
Kayneth got a deceitful murder duel, not an honourable wizard duel.
And Kerry got the news his wish was evil and impossible, not his wish.
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>>122760641
Gilles pls
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>>122759674

Arturia would be a 20* then.
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Marie just fucked my shit up in the 40AP.

I went with Saber Lily, Hassan and Stheno. The bitch used her defense shit every fucking turn, and I don't know why but Guillotine Breaker did a lot of damage to my pokemon.

This shit sucks.
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>>122759674
Darius would be a 100*.
The only one, no debate.
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>>122760756
>Fastwheels got his duel
Nope.
>Kooru master got to see his blood
Well that's right.
>Kiritsugu got to save the world
Nope.

It's unsure of how much Waver got from it, in terms of his original goal of recognition, but he's likely the overall winner of it.
Tokiomi a shit. Zouken and Kariya were doomed to begin with. Kirei was pretty eh.

It's a Butcher story, after all. It really isn't surprising.
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1* Saber Sader when?
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>>122760990
>Zouken was doomed
He got exactly what he wanted though.
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>>122760936
Rule Breaker is almost a OHKO when an enemy uses it. The damage of enemy NPs is through the fucking roof.
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>>122759674

Astolfo confirmed 1 galaxy.
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>>122761017
>this bootleg is more expensive than some legit figures
>has its own popular doujin
>1*
Please, Sader would most definitely be a 5*.
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>>122760936
i've been using jeanne/martha/support with stheno/alter/nero and haven't had any problems, other than the battle lasting longer than i'd care.

try bringing a jeanne in active party or a zerker in backup.
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>>122761070
Actually, its the same as your NP damage.
I guess Gudako can't handle giving her Servants as much HP as they deserve.
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>>122761087
Don't get ahead of yourself now.
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>>122760930
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>>122761154
I have shit Servants, not ascension items and no exp. I'm doomed.
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>>122761172
Gudako should get herself a mana battery like Amakusa.
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>>122760882
Dude. She's hot as fuck. You could say she's on fire.
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>>122761270
>ORT is capable of speech
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>>122760990
What if the grail actually granted Kiritsugu's wish albeit indirectly in the form of Shirou?

Also, fuck captcha for asking for pasta when there's only steaks and fries.
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>>122761306

I still think Marie is miles ahead of her.
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>>122761306
>Not 'smoking hot'
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>>122761230
anon... are you new? besides the fact that you should probably reroll you can probably make it even with shit servants, just use a decent support. don't you have any high lvl jeanne friends?
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>>122761358
Shirou abandons Kerrys wish though.
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>>122761376
>don't you have any high lvl jeanne friends?
No... Only a lot of Arturias.
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>>122761306
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>>122761449
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>People aren't killing Marie first and saving her first last

naze da
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>>122761449
Depends on the route.
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>>122761510
>Archer
>Canon
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>>122761516
Kinda confusing dood, what are you trying to say exactly
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>>122760930
True.
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>>122761306
Carlos, stop. Actually laughed though.
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>Just woke up
>Maintenance
Did DW broke the game again?
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>>122761880
The game was never not broken.
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>>122761489
>tfw about to give you my code but game is in maint

also, top kek at DW for fucking up html code

http://game.fate-go.jp/Webview/SerialCodeTop
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>>122761959
I'm glad I got to hear her again in the new gundam.
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>>122761880
They're dialing back the difficulty in the exp quests
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>>122759373
>Implying they didn't intentionally gimp her to make Nero Bride better later
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>>122761516
did you have a stroke while typing that?
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Managed to meme roll Vlad with store ticket before the maintenance.
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>>122762085
I hope they do Summer Nero
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>>122761880
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20151119
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>>122761496
Gosh, that outfit. A little girl shouldn't be wearing something so evocative.
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>>122762203
Why is Nero so perfect?
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>>122762241

>Lower the difficulty of some Daily Quests and improve the items that drops from enemies.

Why? It's not even that hard
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>>122762368
for a whale
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>>122761959
The game was perfectly fine during release.
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>>122762368
Lowering the difficulty aside, I like that they're improving the item drops from enemies.
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>>122762368
The 40ap exp quests are impossible to do for new players and the 30ap and below are absolutely worthless
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>>122762368
It just takes the tedium out of 40 AP exp quests and allows newer players a better chance of completing them. The 30 AP exp drops were shit and needed to be buffed.
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How the fuck are people having trouble with Marie? Why are you idiots leaving her for last? You should be killing her first, then Boudica.
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>>122762368
They are lowering the difficulty for the xp quest only.
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>>122762454
Yes, all those guaranteed blue gems.
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>>122761961
I-I'll wait!
222,745,236
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Servant Lancer! My name is Phyrra!

Tell me Fgog how likely it is that they are gonna put Younger Crossdressing Achilles as a servant? Since you know Lily versions everywhere and Liz/Carmilla deal
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>>122762409
All that money and they still can't beat the new dailies. It's so pathetic, it's almost funny.

>>122762368
Only the EXP quests. Ascension quests are still hard.
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>>122762479
Boudica? She was with a dragon in my run.
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>>122762526
About the same of they putting fem Gil and Arcueid.
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>>122762526
We don't even have regular Achilles yet.
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>>122762526
I don't know if they've ever changed an established servant's gender, and I doubt they would even start with Achilles if they decided to.
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>>122762539
>>122762409
There isn't a single person with two gold servants who actually complains about this game being too hard. And if there is, they are pathetic for being this bad a a brain dead mobage.
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>>122762651
>Crossdressing
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>>122762539
For now. They said they were still looking at ascension dailies
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>>122762714
It's not even the same thing if we're talking about Lily bux.
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>>122762409
>>122762465
I don't get why people were complaining so much.
If you have a single leveled assassin, it's easy.
If you don't have a leveled assassin, you shouldn't be able to do high level rider quests.

What is the point of the trinity if you don't need to use it? Resistances and weakness are supposed to be part of the difficulty you plan around. You shouldn't be able to complete the most difficult rider quest in the game without an assassin, and you shouldn't be able to do every quest as a new player until you level up.
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>>122762704
I have seig and saber lily
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>>122762526

Can Younger Crossdressing Achilles "handle" Gilgamesh by herself?
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>>122762651
>who is Proto Saber
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>>122762751
I was talking about the exp dalies anon not the ascension ones
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>>122762751
You must be bad at the game than, my team of 42 martha, 41 caster liz and 60 emiya beat the 40 ap rider quest without even using any cs.
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>>122762704
>need level 70+ servants to do the only worthwhile exp source
>when your servants get 70+ they start maxing out and you don't need the exp on them anymore

Whew lad. New players don't start with their core servants at max level
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>>122762760
So do I, and this game is a cakewalk. If you are following class weaknesses you can level bronzes and have no issues.
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>>122762751
They are talking about the exp daily.
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>>122762780
Yeah, I just remembered, but this is Saber dollars so, it is no surprise. It's not like they would take Gilgamesh and make a female Lily version out of him.
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>>122762818
He's still right though. New players shouldn't expect to be doing the highest level daily of even the EXP quests. Its not nothing new. Pretty much every other mobage's high level exp stuff kicks your ass at the beginning too.
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>>122762840
>40 ap xp requires level 70 servants
I don't have a smug enough Emiya.
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>>122762840you can finish the exp quest with 50-60 teams if you play properly. There is also supports that anyone any level has access to which can give them a 70/80 to rely on as a crutch/cover their bases
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>>122762870
Indeed
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>>122762764
Well given Phyrra is a few years before Troy that means Younger Achilles would already have his famed Agility/speed and training with Chiron is already done. Probably Poseidon's horses too since Tethis is a Water Goddess as well
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>>122762939
Is he good enough?
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>>122762465
>The 40ap exp quests are impossible to do for new players and the 30ap
Of course it shouldn't. If all quests can be completed by new players then what's the fucking point of leveling up?
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>>122762890
Yes but the problem is the 30ap and below are absolutely garbage. They weren't enough to prepare people for the 40ap
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>>122762957
Never ever.
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>>122762824
Exactly, if anything it's too easy.
Not being able to complete the 40 ap quest should be an encouragement to get better.

People don't bitch about master difficulty being too hard in starlight stage or raids being too hard in Granblue. They just get better.

Why is the FGO audience love doublethink so much?
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>>122762780
SaBucks strong, yo.
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>>122762890
Yeah the only real problem is that fact there's such a big leap to the good rewards.
30 ap quests do need to give better rewards though.
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>>122762890
You enjoying that bronze exp from 30AP, anon?
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>>122762957
That looks familiar.
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>>122762991
Needs more eyebrow.
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>>122763005
Butlermine never.
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>>122763087
Of course not, he already maxed out a few from all the previous dailies. :^)
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>>122762751
My only complaint about any of this was Marie being able to spam invulnerability, and also getting dunked by a beefy chimera/dragon on turn 2 without guaranteed rare drops.
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>>122763102
>tfw got her from 40 to 70 yesterday after I saw how good she is
good feel
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>>122763137
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>>122762349
Shortstack (mostly), fun attitude, dtf.
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>>122763143
Butlermine and tired Oji-san Kerrytugu.
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>Demon drops a gold chest
>Fuck yea, a heart
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>>122763021
Good job reading the thread there
Except with FGO you don't level your servants by doing quests and every single daily below 40AP is so abysmal with its rewards that 40AP is both earlygame and endgame so if you're new have fun trying to claw to the levels where you can actually do 40AP because there is no other reasonable option
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>>122763021
While I do agree with the "People should just get better" mindset, it can't be helped when Mari can spam invulnerability until her NP charges up. If someone doesn't face the right servants for basically a turtling battle, they're fucked. At least in SS for example, you just need skill to pass a master song, not better cards.
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>>122763196
>When i first posted my level 80 Carmilla they called me a madman.
Who is the madman now?
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>>122763348
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>>122763102
>>122763196
>have her at Lv 1
>want to level her after seeing that guy post how he solo'd the Rider daily using Carmilla
>less than 10 apples left
This won't be enough, won't it?
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>>122763430
You can get pretty far

Wait until the next assassin exp daily though
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>>122763430
If you do the 40 ap it should be.
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>>122763419
I'm so sorry I ever doubted you anon
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>>122763531
>>122763562
Thanks anons. Waiting until Saturday then.
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>five 4* exp cards
>super success
my nut
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>>122762520
added, 89 jeanne
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They didn't need to nerf it this hard, i was actually having a bit of fun arranging different teams compositions.
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>>122763718
>2 gold and 7 silver exp
time to farm for those tickets
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>>122763718
It's back to the previous difficulty, isn't it?
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Every single time, even more so with the success rate up
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Caster Daily boss is Waver.
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>>122762520
Added. Level 90 Jeanne.
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166k health boss waver
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>>122763718
Goddamnit DW
Don't nerf the 40AP, make 30AP 80% silver exp instead. Would be better for prism farming too.
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>wave 1 snake jewel
I like this already.
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>>122763690
>>122764056
Thanks guys.
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>>122763718
>spend a fuckton of apples on multiple accounts to find the exact HP of each enemy variation
Fuck this shit, I'm gonna have to do it all over again.
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>>122764124
Triple rider team, here I go.
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>>122762520
Hey i added you too, level 59 Blackbeard
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>>122764138
Does any caster even need those things to ascend?
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>Waver
NUKE EVERYTHING
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>>122763718
How lame.
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>>122764507
Shakespeare is the only Caster that does, but plenty of servants from other classes need them too.
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>>122764507
It's not caster ascension because you use materials to ascend casters, it's ascension materials that drop FROM casters.
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I told you fags it would be Waver of infinite buffs
But no, you wouldn't listen
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>>122764604
I known that. i was just wondering if any caster at all needed them
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>30 ap giving me tons of Snake Jewels
>Still no hearts
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>>122764682
Except the vast majority assumed it would be waver
Fuck off
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>lost the battle and dropped out due to maintenance
>repeated the last wave after maintenance was over
>healed myself with a restored CS
>won
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Diarmuid!
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>marta vs waver
This just feels so so cheap.
This might have been the easiest fight by far.
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>>122764750
>vast majority
>damagecontrol.jpg
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yesterday carmilla solo'd the rider 40 AP
today, marie solos the caster 40 AP
http://imgur.com/a/ab4xa
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>>122764961
Of course it is, you pansies have had the difficulty lowered twice now.
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>>122765120
>twice

Literally making shit up
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>>122765120
The difficulty has only being lowered once for ascension daily but they're "still testing".
Honestly even without a nerf, waver is still an easy as fuck servant to beat due to his zero damage.
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>Tamamo lead
>Marie as 2nd
>Pirate sluts Support

EASY
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It just me or are the gems dropping way more frequently than yesterday?
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>>122765161
>Marie and Lancelot are too hard whine moan whinge
>maintenance nerfs everything
>XP is too hard bitch cry sob
>maintenance nerfs everything
So now the game is going to have zero challenge until London, great.
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>>122765264
They said they are looking into ascension dailies, not that they nerfed it
Get your facts straight
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>>122761489
I'll be your friend. I have a ton of space on my list because I almost exclusively add new players.

491,031,684
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>>122765102
Are you going to solo Carmila with Waver tomorrow?
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>People actually wanted to farm dailies where the reward is barely better than it was before but took twice as long due to HP walls
Even though I could clear the maps fuck that
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>>122765341
Are you hallucinating shit or something?
The first emergency maint was to fix a bug
There was no nerf
The maint after that was just now and was nerfing the EXP 40 AP difficulty only

How does it feel to be this much of a fucking illiterate piece of shit spoonfed redditor?
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>Yuu Asakawa acting lonely again on twitter
I want to hold her
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>>122761489
Adding people from spreadsheet is also an option. I'm sure there are high level people who want low levels since they spam quests more often
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>>122765341
nigger the only thing that got nerfed was the 40 EXP daily.
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>>122765432

That's my problem with the ascension dailies, they can make it even harder for all i care, as long as the rewards are worth it.
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>"First you complained about it being to hard"
>"Now you complain about it being to easy"
>"YOU PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU LIKE"
>"FUCK YOU, NOW WATCH US MAKE SCATHACH HAVE .001% CHANCE OF SUMMONING"
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>>122765478
>he isn't shit at this game
>must be a redditor
Nice projection, faggot. Go back to your hugbox.
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>>122765478
No, they nerfed all EXP daily.

Beginner level:
Enemies yesterday have 3000~4000 HP.
Enemies today have like 1200~1500 HP.
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>>122765585
It isn't worth it though. They drop more skill stones than ascension materials.
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>>122765605

>"FUCK YOU, NOW WATCH US MAKE SCATHACH HAVE .001% CHANCE OF SUMMONING"

Why would they increase it?
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>>122765102
>la solo'd the rider 40 AP
>today, marie solos the caster 40 AP

Does Quick updates really make NP gaining really fast with Quick Chain?
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Can anyone confirm Demon being here yet?
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>70,000+ FP
>Still no Blackbeard
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>>122765660
The current mobs drop lamia eyes constantly
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>>122765792
I've seen him on the 30 ap
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>>122765641
I stand corrected then
They still didn't touch the ascension dailies so my point about them being illiterate shitters is fully valid

>>122765792
Spreadsheet updates in real time so follow that
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>>122765641
I really found the new exp dailies strange since they were vastly more difficult than the original exp dailies with shittier rewards than the old ones.
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>>122765775
All of the extra critting from the update does.
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>>122765413
I don't have waver, maybe with caster liz
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>>122765885
Pretty much, the 40AP not even exclusively gold hands.
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>>122765885
I am constantly getting more gold from 40 AP than I did from the old 40 AP
How is that shittier
Also 3x the master exp
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>>122765821
>5 Apples
>1 Jewel
>Constant
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>>122766026
I've gotten maybe two 3* EXP cards from the new 40 AP EXP total.
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>>122765809
>30+ 2* Servants
>no Sanson or Andersen
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>>122765885
The 40ap was always infinitely better.
The 30ap is now better than it was, before it was even. It gave 2-4 bronze xp sure, but it also gave 1-2 more gold xp than before which evened it out. They just nerfed the mana prisms you could get out of it, the xp levels didn't change.
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>>122766118
I get 1 per run on average
As opposed to 3-4 average per run from before

This thread is full of shitters that do 2 runs and think they know all the rates
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CARRY ME TODAY TEACH
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>>122766216
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Cleaned out some people and now i have some friend slots, Anyone wanna add a Drake?

039,507,756
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>>122766096
I've had 6 drop for me anon at around 2 refills

You just have shit luck
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>>122766290
reported to dw
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>>122766337
Not that anon but you must have ex luck since 3 apples and only 1 here
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Feels good having a lvl 90 Drake with 6/4/8 skill levels alt for support reasons
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>>122766474
I just want the demon to show up so I can get a heart
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>>122766337
Is this 40ap?
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>>122766494
Feels good having Drake on my main.
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>>122766601
>He thinks he won't get a gold skillgem
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>>122766337
Not that anon but give me 5 of those please
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>>122766619
Yeah though they drop in 30 too
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>>122765809
When I started playing, I rolled Blackbeard and burned him down.

Now after playing for three weeks, I regret it like you have no idea. I need those fucking pages too.
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>>122766601
>desire sensor
If you need 5 jewels, you will get 5 hearts
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Has anyone actually managed to get a heart from a demon yet in 40ap?
Did a refill and still saw no demons so I'm just going to wait for christmas hearts instead of this ascension hell.
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>>122766925
Didn't saw even one demon in 40ap
Saw exactly one demon in 30ap and he dropped a heart for me.
8 more to go for me....
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>>122766925
Can probably conclude that the demon has the lowest appearence rate out of the rare enemies
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>tfw lv80 pirate sluts

They just one-shot Waver in the 40AP with their NP.
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>>122766806
If only.

None of the 'rare' enemies ever spawn for me in the last 2 daily, I don't expect anything different today.
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>>122766801
That is why i will never burn anyone, Even if a can only do a single exp daily before having to use then.
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>>122758709
Shirou has metric shittons of plot devices that saved him, only Fate Shirou that could muster Avalon would stay alive for more moments than other Shirous against Shiki.

Stupid vg Fate plebs, geez.
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>>122767110
Anon...
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>>122767048
>mfw
I really hope this is not true.
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>>122767110
Theres so much wrong about this post I don't know what to day.
It was outright stated by nasu that a fight between shiki and shirou is determined by whether shiki manages to close in and rape shirou with his eyes first or whether shikis eyes die due to extraneous usage against shirou swordspam first
The only shirou that actually outright loses to shiki is fate shirou due not properly understanding his projection abilities.
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>>122767209
It's true, i used 16 apples so far and i've only gotten 3 hearts
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>>122767209
>4 hearts
I'm sorry anon.
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Can we take multiple Interlude quest from a multiple same servant?
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s-surely christmas event will save us from this talon and hearts ascension hell r-right?
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>>122767379
No.
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>>122767317
Screencap the demon when you see him next
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>>122767209
Time to take it easy until Christmas. Who knows, maybe nip Thanksgiving will save us?
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>>122767282
>not properly understanding projection
>becomes Archer
Come on now.
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>>122765821
I've gotten more Hearts than Snake Jewels after 4 runs of 40 AP, and I've only had one heart drop so far today.
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>>122767209
At least by the time you get the last heart, you should have more than enough gems to max out all of her skills.
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>>122767317
>>122767338
;_;

>>122767434
A-at least Tamamo is linear, if this is happened to my Drake I might just kill myself.
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Going to try and solo 40AP with my level 70 Medusa
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>mfw im sitting ontop of my pile of 12 hearts
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>>122767521
I hate this desire sensor
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>>122767485
Not at that point of time anon. We're talking about shirou during fate route, at most the shirou near the end of fate route.
Either way, he still gets rekt by shiki until he learns to sword spam.
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>>122765809
>>122766096
I have the same problem with Shakespeare
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Hearts, Scales and Talons are just as fucking rare as they were before
Hearts and Scales are probably rarer
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>>122767282
>It was outright stated by nasu that a fight between shiki and shirou is determined by whether shiki manages to close in and rape shirou with his eyes first or whether shikis eyes die due to extraneous usage against shirou swordspam first
The thing that was stated is "Shiki wins unless Shirou uses a beam sword"
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>>122722252
Can you git gud in this game without moon knowledge and withou paying? Or is it one of those games there's a wall if you don't pay that makes it terrible?.

Also some tip to level up, farm and git gud?
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>>122767740
Scales and talons are more common but only slightly more

Hearts still have an abysmal rate from the look of it
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>>122767740
No hearts talons and scales are all much rarer than before.
At least before there was assured appearance even if the drop was random.
Now its both randomised appearance and randomised drop.
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>>122767757
Shirou can't beam swords by himself.
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>>122759369
Potnia Theron > ORT > Crimson Moon
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>>122767776
Go back in time to the end of July and play it from the beginning.

New players don't understand the suffering we went through when it first came out.
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>>122767856
Then Shiki wins.
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>>122767813
If by slightly you mean instead of 1% it's 2% now, then yes

>>122767829
The drop is much, much higher now but the appearance rate is much lower. It evens out to what it was before, maybe extremely slightly more so. Learn some statistics.
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>>122767776
You can clear all content with zero difficulties as completely F2P. Gameplay wise this game is fine for F2P.

What fucks F2P in the ass are the low gacha rates so good luck getting your waifu. If you don't want a specific waifu you're smooth sailing, although I havent met anybody who plays fate for something other than the servants yet
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>>122767282
No, the swordspam wasn't the problem.

A beam like excalibur was the problem.

And the thing of overcharging was about Shirou AND Shiki, not Shiki.

Shiroufags forget that he also dies when he overcharges his circuits
>inb4 a few NPs will overcharge Shiki
No they won't, he killed Arcueid and didn't overcharge i'm pretty sure he can kill Shirou's swords.
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>>122767776

You can git gud without paying. My F2P friend have better servant than my 200$ spent account. Luck is the most mattered in this game gacha.
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>>122767962
I'm not sure how people continue playing this game once they get and fully max out their waifu/favorite servant.
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>>122767776
Yes, you just need to be patient and not lust after any particular 4*/5 servants*, otherwise you will be disappointed. However, you can beat even the hardest battles with just 2*/1* servants, so bad gacha luck won't hinder your progression if you know how to play.

Best way to level up servants in through Chaldea Gate dailies. Save the quartz you get from story missions for 10 roll to improve your odds at something decent.
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>>122767776
You only need moon knowledge if you want to enjoy the story.
If not than you'll need to check archives for synopsis and occasional translated scenes.
This game is p2w like most mobages or it tries to be however DW fucks up so much that they give tons of the paid currency for free so even f2p can have 4-5 golds (aka ssr and sr).
The guide to leveling is to use cirnopedia/spreadsheets in the op to check for when to farm as using the exp of the right class provides bonus exp. additional tips is to not do any exp runs besides 30ap or 40ap as the other exp dailies suck balls.
Last major tip is to get yourself a high level support carry and to "reroll" if you get a scantily dressed rider boudica or saber gilles.
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>>122768050
Hop in and out when they announce actually meaningful events like halloween. Only login daily if there's nothing but daily grind.
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>>122768050
I only play it on the bus to pass time.
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10 FP roll gave me only 1* exp shit.

I NEED BLACKBEARD FOR FUCK'S SAKE.
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>>122767890
I played it when it came out but dropped it because I didn't know moon and because I just simply was in a bad mood during that week.

>>122767962
I don't really care about waifus at all, Fate girls are pretty bad in my opinion, well I enjoy Nero and Rider but Rider was pretty easy to get in those first days I played it back then.
I'd really like to get EMIYA though.


Thanks anons
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Using your own Drake and a support Drake is fucking broken. Crit stars forever.
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>>122768050
I'm playing this and I'm not a waifufag nor do I have a favourite servant. I'm nit even that much if a type moon fan. I'm just okaying this mobage to waste time since its an IP I can at least recognise, is turn based and has a somewhat active community compared to stuff like granblue where everyone is a literal who and theres no communityy to speak off
Am I weird?
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>>122767856
He can though, just not Excalibur because he normally can't trace it. The strain put on him is absurd because it's not a sword that can be stored in UBW so he practically has to make it from scratch.

He can create a pretty close recreation in CCC though and use it multiple times in a fight. So presumably the real barrier stopping him is a lack of mana. If he has a good source of it to draw on he could project and use Excalibur.
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>>122766096
I'm done with this
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>>122768410
why not just play starlight stage then
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>>122768305
>Fate girls are pretty bad
>I enjoy Nero
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>>122768305
You sadly missed your chance. A while ago there was download milestone event and you could choose a free 4* servant of your choice, emiya was one option

But can always pray at the gacha/hope for rate up event
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>>122768470
Screencap the demon anon
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>>122768496
Not turn based.
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>>122768050
Nothing else to play.

Also try to get in the mood to level another Servant.
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>>122768410
I'm playing for very similar reasons, but this is probably the minority for F/GO. I actually have someone I'm saving for, but I don't do waifus. I think if this general died I would be a lot less concerned about this game.
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>>122768505
She's fun as fuck and not annoying. She's pretty much a bro, what's not to enjoy?

>inb4 purityfags
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>>122768439
He can make swords with beams, but he cant shoot beams from those swords.
Caliburn was all Saber and Excalibur kills him/was Extra bullshit.
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>>122768410
>playing this shitty game without having a waifu to see you through the storms known as ascension hell
Why?
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>>122768630
She is basically the opposite of what you just described.
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>>122768620
>if this general died I would be a lot less concerned about this game
this desu
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>>122768630
>Nero
>Not annoying
You are trying too hard.
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>>122768630
Shes less of a bro and more of a "friend with benefits"
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>>122768620
Same. I played Granblue as well, but it just felt so dead playing it. Even though you don't directly interact with other players the support system and community gives this game a lot more life. Now if we could get some more content
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>>122768305
>Fate girls are pretty bad
Fate characters are pretty bad.
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>>122768145
And about powering up the low level servants? Just use them a lot? I remember having a lot of items and not knowing how to use them at all, one of the reasons I got mad.

>>122768154
I asked about the language for the reasons above, I didn't know how to use items or the reroll thing. Hell I only knew how to get new servants and that's pretty much it.

I'll check it out now and have more patience I guess. The only problem is that I had uninstalled the game from my phone and dunno why it seems it didn't "save" the account I had at all. I guess another thing I didn't understand because of no moon knowledge.
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>pirate sluts can finally shine

15k + 25k crits on a quick card is amazing.
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>>122768470
>I forgot about the seeds
Really regret ascending Cu now
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>>122768781
Granblue basically has the same support system as this game though

Community I guess, in the sense that this game has a general while Granbluefags are probably in the mobagegeneral among others
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>>122768973
I still have 30 of those things after dangos, and I'm sure I've used at least 12 since then.
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>>122768895
You should learn to read the OP and faq as theres a play guide.
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making new bread, anything that needs to be added?
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>>122769085
Can you make this the OP
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUMCaoRUAAQlpqa.png

Servants in Black edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0oFiSRM3Kw
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>>122768895
This game is by far one of the easiest game to navigate if you don't know moon. Half of it has english text on it and the other half of it is colour coded. Also just keep in mind the option on the right is always confirm/accept and the left option is cancel.

Just read the OP for the rest. There's a FAQ and guides answering all of the questions you've mentioned

>>122769020
From what I played you never really use their character in combat, though, just as an attack. But I more meant it was just a bunch of random nips. With this game at least I have a bunch of people from this general and can see them progress and whatnot
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>>122768906
What CE should I put on them? I just maxed them to lv 80 and have a them on a team with evil cat and UNRIVALED
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>>122769237
I threw dango on them for extra star creation and crit damage.
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>>122769237
>unrivalled on the same team as sluts
You're doing it wrong.
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>>122769162
It's weird to see Romulus without his goofy hat.
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>>122769237
If I had them, I'd use black grail and focus on using their NP nuke.
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>>122769232
Yeah that's understandable. Granblue is sort've literally who in terms of IP still and a lot of people who play mobage are waiting for the English patch before giving it a try I think, so in that sense yeah this game is better if you just want to share your shit with anons
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>>122767594
Walter pls go hoy somewhere else.
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Level 70 Marie (Rider) if anyone needs her. Check the spreadsheet.
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>>122768973
Seeds drop often in the final stage where you can farm phoenix plumes, should not be hard. The bronze unit amazons love to fucking drop gold chests, but the silver cunts, pretty much never.
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>>122769470
>>122769470
>>122769470
new bread
>>122769470
>>122769470
>>122769470
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Totally worth the 40AP
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>>122768642
Since when can't he shoot beams from the swords? Excalibur killed him in HF but he was already seconds from death in the first place and had no mana to draw on besides from his shitty circuits, we never see him try to use it in an ideal situation with mana to draw on. Of course all of that's irrelevant in the first place since it's proven in the VN itself Shirou absolutely can use sword beams so you're full of shit.
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>>122769439
Oh good, I thought you might have Marie (Saber).
Why do people do that on the spreadsheet?
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>>122769381
Not much of a nuke if you didn't overcharge it.
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>>122768439
Rin Archer doesn't even have enough mana to maximize a "saber class holy sword" so my guess is it is mana problem for Shirou that's why the interview says that it's a different story if he can.
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>>122769583
Beams are an actual function of a noble phantasm that the owner uses. Shirou couldn't beam with Gram or Balmung if he projected it, and no where in the vn does it say he could, you fucking idiot.
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>find a demon on 40 AP
>kill him and get a red chest
>it ends up being a skill

Fuck this shit I can already picture this happening often
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>>122769970
objectively wrong
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>>122769970
shirou projects more than just the sword itself, he projects the skill and history of the weapon with it, meaning that he can do beamspam just fine.

If he had the mana to, at least.
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It it me or is this daily far less cost efficient than the master exp daily?
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>>122771169
It's physically impossible to have done enough runs at this point in time to create a large enough (400+) sample size to say that with any reliability
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>>122762840
>need level 70+ servants to do the only worthwhile exp source

I used these to do today's and yesterday's 40AP XP.
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Can someone with a high level Jeanne add me?

I was in the hospital for 10 days and my 90 Jeanne anon deleted me ;_;

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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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