Tree of Savior General /tosg/

Glad this is going to be wiped before the circlejerk crews fully develop

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Someone please tell me where do I buy EXP cards with icoins

What does the fear debuff actually do?

>>122621110
Reposting from the old thread.

Should hunters c3 tier provide them with a skill that allows them to use multiple pets at once? (Overall pet damage is reduced per point put into this skill up to level 5)

I should have just let people keep falling for the highlander meme.

Now I'll have to deal with other peltastas swashbuckling near me.

>>122621065
get a time machine to 2017 and buy them from the icoin merchant

Why do you have to walk all over the flowerbed and get your feet wet to pray at the statue in Klaipeda?

Pretty questionable design

>archer takes more than 1 point in oblique shot
>wonders why he has no SP and has to chug potions all the time
Epic

>>122621907
>archer takes 1 point in oblique shot
>wonders why he does no damage and has to use it a ton of times to kill something
Simply ebin

>>122621907
the dmg and sp cost basically scale at the same rate, levelling it will just make you do the damage quicker.

not levelling it is just a waste of time unless you are one shotting mobs with it (you aren't)

>>122621210

Well, how deep into the Rodelero class you want to go in? C1/C2/C3?

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>>122613492
You know Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego?

It's basically that, but with Goddess Laima instead.

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>>122620779

is it faster to solo demon prison f2 or 5 man party?

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>>122622376

>>122622265
C3. ALL IN! Specially because High Kick sounds interesting. I'm thinking on:
Sword -> Peltasta C2 -> Rodelero C3

The other option is:
Sword C2 -> Peltasta -> Rodelero C3

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>>122622459

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>>122622376
Oh, it's my shitty icbt1 character.

>>122622376
I don't care if Thighlander isn't the best later on. She is still the cutest! Would totally play the class again in OBT.
Still hoping for 2h sword buff though

>>122620904
>you cant fuck cartoons
We'll see about that.

>>122621757
maybe only revelators can teleport with them and they're a recent thing? that's my headcanon at least

Man, swordfags get salty as fuck when a bokor's zombie train rolls in.

There's literally a grand total of 2 places to get a certain crafting recipe, and these turds get pissy because I don't act like he has a fucking monopoly over one of them. Being a Bokor is suffering. I ain't yielding you shit.

>>122620904
Shut up Bernie, this is why I'm voting for Trump.

>tfw no more demon prison

>>122621610
Literally everyone is getting peltasta now. Only redditors will play highlander.

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/archer-classes-feedback-r-i-p/90381/344

Why can't you extended the beta on the other servers like you will for the fucking BRs, IMC?

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>>122622870
Yeah
I'll keep the rest of my top secret meta tips to myself, don't want everyone running around with top tier builds.

>killing Bramble
>It's almost dead
>FUCKING FATAL ERROR
>Had to restart the boss
>two hits and he got my items to 0% durability
>when he does that aoe he literaly oneshots me with all the map range attack (I'm a wizard)

please go on and complain about archers being weak.

>>122622765
am I the only one that congas with the zombies if I run past them?

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>>122622291

>>122622975
Your grammar is like a BR yourself m8

I can't log in myself to check at the moment. How potent are alchemist potions?

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where the fuck are our bonus exp events IMC?

>>122623238
atleast twice as strong as npc pots with half the cooldown

>>122623330
Are they cheaper

>>122623402
Unless you find the wrong alchemist, yes

>>122622543

Sword > Peltasta > Hoplite/Barbarian/Peltasta2 > Rodelero3.

Barbarian: You get to use two-handed swords which will carry you through the early levels, and you have a few more skills to spam.

Hoplite: You get to use Spears and keep Pierce/Stabbing which stay relevant through the entire game, specially against bosses. You can also use Synchro Thrusting to deal damage against blocked enemies (it deals more damage depending on your shield's defense). And Finestra.

Peltasta 2: You get Shield Lob to throw your shield, and higher levels of the other skills, but they don't add that much damage. The only real thing you get from it is a higher level of Swash Buckling, which will aggro more mobs.

I think the best option would be Hoplite, unless you really want to be able to taunt 16 enemies instead of 11 with a higher level of Swash Buckling.

>>122623452
How much do they usually go for

>>122623025
>swashbuckling is good

This becomes more obvious than something really obvious the moment someone does it near you.

>>122623456

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>new bug that causes your game to cause if you get hit by a bullet type boss attack
>yfw this is a stealth update to fuck over casuals

Can you even use swash buckling with a 2h sword?

>>122623568
Somehow it took this general 3 weeks to figure it out, and the rest of the game still doesn't know.

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>>122623680
>yfw grazing bullets for extra loot and xp

What the fuck is wrong with Wendigo Searchers?
>everything else in the area
>not a lot of damage, they're melee or casters
>Wendigo Searcher comes along
>90% chance to hit
>1.8k damage a hit
>ranged
>can double shot
>can poison
Did they add an extra 0 to its stats or put them in the wrong area?

>>122623464
If you do anything more than Pelt 1, you'd better be sure about what you're doing. Especially if what you're doing is for Shield Lob...

>>122623464
Synchro Thrusting doesn't do more damage to blocked enemies, that's Umbo Blow. Synchro Thrusting does a bit of both Strike and Pierce damage, and you can attribute it so it does more Pierce than Strike.

Barbarian:
The main reason for Barb is Seism and Frenzy, not 2H weapons. If you want to use 2H weapons take a rank in Highlander for both 2H attributes, and Crashar Stroke.

>>122623703
No.

>>122623763
Just wait until the fucking lizardman magicians

>Just want to quest and grind normally
>But doing the dungeons is pretty much mandatory once they pop up

Oh well

>>122623703
Yes. It crashes the game.

>>122623752
I will literally have a bullethell orgasm if they add Shikigami no Shiro mechanics in this game.

>>122622765
>Zombies can't pick shit up
>Recipes don't make a sound when they drop, so you can't tell if one dropped at the tail end of the conga line unless you actively check
>People still have the balls to whine about Bokors having an item farming advantage

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>killing strike-weak bosses with one broom trap

>>122623763
Almost every map for the rest of the game has an enemy like that.

>>122624062
Post vid

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>>122622765
>area with medium/low mob density
>highlanders desperately trying to hold on to 1/4 of the map as my conga line takes up the remaining 3/4 effortlessly

until my zombies die and i have to go to a different map to restock

>>122623464
Thanks for the input, anon.

I have tried Barbarian but I don't think it will have that much synergy with Rodelero. Peltasta should work out, then again aggroing 16 mobs sounds fine for farming but my memories from RO tell me otherwise (Venatu Effect). Hoplite sounds tasty, and looking at the skills, it could be nice to get C2 on it.

I need to think this a lot before I decide.

>>122623783
>Synchro Thrusting doesn't do more damage to blocked enemies, that's Umbo Blow.
http://www.tosbase.com/database/skills/10304/
Also im a hoplite c2 so i can confirm it does its still shit though

>>122624246
I stand corrected. Umbo Blow does the same thing better though.

Still good if you take Hoplite because their cooldowns are all kind of long.

>>122623464
>>122623783
>>122624160

Scratch the Barbarian part, I was thinking of Highlander. Barbarian C1 only gives a few skills to spam.

You can't get Rodelero C3 if you go with Hoplite C2, at least for now. We will see if that path is more viable when more ranks are available.

But yeah, not many choices available, between Hoplite and Peltasta, I think the former one wins, unless you are really into being the ultimate shield user.

>>122624126
I should have expected nothing less from the design geniuses at IMC.

>>122624246
Synchro Thrust is cool in that it scales with something other than just skill levels, but the shield scaling is the same for all levels, and Finestra, Stabbing and Pierce are just so good that it's hard to justify more than a token single point in it.

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>>122624884
>Altar Way
>walk past some Shamans
>suddenly I'm missing 3/4 of my HP
this is not fun

>>122623464
>>122623783
>>122624246
>>122624697
>>122624947
All right, given all this input I'm divide between this 2 skill builds. I need your help to know if I'm doing this right or I'm just going full retard and beyond.

Option A: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/7iv4rrgzhz/

Option B: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/qb2zs0n3wj/

>>122624962
>>122624884
>>122624126
>>122623763
Doesn't this remind you of something vaguely familiar?

Hunterfly, Mimic, Familiar, Drainliar

That one monster that's there just to ruin what would otherwise be a great levelling spot for solo.

>>122625308
yeah but at least those guys were melee

>>122625308
I don't remember mimics and hunter flies in any otherwise really easy areas.

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>>122625265
>mfw when option b
Wasnt your objective to be a C3 rodel?
Also hoplite is the only class (besides fencer) that allows you to use a one-handed pierce type weapon so thats pretty much a must.
Option A by far.

>>122625463
gravity put hunter flies in geffen underground 1 and GH graveyard and they instantly died as good leveling maps. those maps where low levels and high levels would mingle and help the newbies. such fun areas, why did gravity kill those maps...

>>122625308
>rideword, mimic, hunterfly
>all impossible to hit and give shit exp and ruin your day

Don't remind me. ;-;

>>122625640
Yeah, my final objective is Rodelero C3, I won't lose my way. I just put the option B together for the lulz and taking into consideration the skils from Hoplite C2.

So i'm a Wizard 3 and i'm planning on picking Elementalist and Sorcerer 2. How fucked am I?

>>122623870
I grinded those buggers from level 169-175. They are a pushover.

>>122625265
It's hard to say, that one point in spear lunge is a huge boost in damage output with spears.

>>122625921
If you went through the trouble of Wiz 3, you may as well go full on Ele to capitalize on Quick Cast.

>>122625718
Oh yeah I forgot about Geffen Tower B1
At least there were other decent spots to level in place of it
:^)

>>122625718
Back in the day I leveled my acolyte to job 50 in churchyard by healing ghouls, wraith and skel/zombie prisoner despite the hunter flies. It was doable, but you always had to be ready to teleport.

>>122625308
That isn't really comparable. Those monsters were made to keep you on your fucking toes but they played by the same rules as anything else.

The annoying mobs on ToS are just damage turrets that can't be dodged or escaped from because FUCK YOU

>>122626010
What about going Ele 2 Sorcerer 1? I don't really care for the circle 3 skills

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>>122625786
>Don't mind me, just farming Raydrics as usual
>A pack Ridewords come out of nowhere
>Driven into a corner where an Absymal Knight is waiting
Muh PTSD.

>>122626153
AHHHHHHH! THE MEMORIES!!!
I have seen war, Jhonny.

>>122626018
They totally ruined geffen dungeon with this shit. Gef dungeon 1 wasn't even a high level area, it was pretty retarded to throw the hunter flies there.

>2hu boss crash literally making it impossible to beat this quest boss solo

goddamnit

>>122626295
Yeah, I remember it being only poison spores, familiars, and spores, or something like that. At least I think it was like that when I played on IRO before the Comodo update.

Then I started playing on private servers and it was hell.

>>122626153
>a knight on peco appears out of nowhere with a huge pack of whatever mobs chasing him and runs over you

>>122625265

I would probably use something like this: http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/38y1t0wpwv/

Maxing out the highest hitting skills (specially those with overheat or low cooldown), keeping 1 point in those with utility/CC. For
Slithering, I think 1 point will be enough if all it does is increase damage, but if it increases evasion as well then depending on how much it does, will decide if it is worth spending more points into it or not (still remains situational though).

>gargoyles in glast heim courtyard
why

is the 130 dungeon safe to do? or is there some crashing bug in there?

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>everyone going pelt now
so is this true after all?

what was the equivalent of BRarians in RO?

>>122626853
I'd rather solo as a swash buckler and steal kills

http://www.tosbase.com/database/quests/40500/ does this quest exist in our CBT?
I'm looking all over where it says the tablet should be, but it's not here.

>>122626504
The only problem I have is those points on Gung Ho. Aren't those kinda unnecessary because you will be using Guardian all the time? Also, more points in Shield Push won't be worth it? That defense down debuff is tempting as fuck.

>>122626853
Swashbuckling is the joint penalty of the swordsmantree.
Skills that only serve as a minor convenience but regarded as a godsend and absolute requirement by other players.

>>122626973
It's there

>>122626853
It's an elaborate ruse to get highlanders buffed.

>>122626882
A geared hunter
>press improved concentration
>auto attack
>kill everything

Or fire mages before monsters had spells
>fire wall
>solo MVPs

>>122626882
Creator

>>122627069
Imagine if EXP isn't so hard to grind and we get all the EXP events and shit. I don't think many will pick Peltasta at all.

>>122626950
> Swashbuckling stealing kills

Trust me, swash buckling will do anything but that.

> Swash buckle
> Get a whole bunch of mobs near me
> Suddenly every BRbarian, highlander and pyromancer is converging on my position
> Can't kill them fast enough because I'm using a shield

Also swashbuckling doesn't work on mobs that are aggroed on a player that isn't in your party.

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>simply swelling the enemy will make it give you half the exp(1x) and half the drops regardless of who kills it even if they're outside the party

So has anybody managed to claim black hair on a newly created character? Or has it been officially 'not working' since a few patches ago

>>122623029
>killing Bramble
>It's almost dead
>FUCKING FATAL ERROR
This. I'm a good wizard though and I fucking nuke his HP in 10 seconds, but then he does that same shit that makes me crash right near the end.

>>122623752
If only Parfait Station had come out or Valkyrie Sky were still around.

>>122627585
I got it today

>>122627585
made a character a few hours ago and I managed to get black hair just fine

>>122627585
Couldn't even get black hair on my level 145 character after killing 500+ Hanamings

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>>122622291
kek, that describes this game's incredibly complex storyline pretty well

>>122627903
Next OP image.

I'm doing a story quest, the one with Rexipher releasing a hostage. I got to damage a boss he summoned then I got an error.

>>122627903
Saved.

>>122627573
Bug?

>>122628067
Any boss that goes 2hu mode crashes people. Have fun advancing the storyline.

Don't worry, they're really on top of fixing things like the friends list, the market, and the party feature. I'm sure 3 weeks from now you'll be able to progress.

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>>122624147
This guy wasn't weak to strike though.

>>122626981

Most of the time you will be using Gung Ho over Guardian, but if you prefer to use Guardian all the time then sure, get Thrust/Bash instead.

Shield Push would require more testing, but since the defense debuff is just a flat amount and not a percentage, then it would barely make any difference unless you really go ham with it and get level 15 (-210 defense). But then you would have to sacrifice the rest of your good damage skills for it. I don't think it is worth it.

>>122628224
>3 weeks from now

>>122628238

You will love using that skill when grinding at demon prison, it is amazing.

>>122628238
stats? I know I'm not doing as much damage as you

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>>122628067
dodge the bullet attacks

DODGE THEM

>>122623029
>>122627680
The game crashes if one of the Touhou bullets touches you, and he tends to use it on low health. Stay as far away as possible for most of the time so you can dodge them all and you should be fine.

>>122628238
So that's what a broom trap is. I thought it's some kind of Dievdirby statue.

anyone up for lvl 130 dungeon?

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>>122628440
I know, I can't wait.

>>122628449
Something like 2:1 STR:DEX. I have some cloth pieces and blue gems in them for more SP.

>152
>No motivation to play prison savior for hours on end only to be wiped in a week.

Send help.

>>122628679
thanks

>>122626882
Geneticist. They can do everything in the game better than any other class, except arguably support.

Just like BRbarians can do everything in the game better than any other class except healing.

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>>122628572
>The game crashes if one of the Touhou bullets touches you
That's not true. I would get hit by the bullets a couple of times and I was fine. It was some bigger attack he would do that crashed me.

Although, I just now managed to beat it after I disabled all graphical effects. I think it was the one where he makes thorn spikes shoot up from the ground in several directions over a large area, since I had never seen that one in the times I crashed before.

The game still screwed me over with these unpickable coins though.

>>122628278
Ok then, I think I have it now. This could be it, what do you think?
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/wbgsis3nq0/

>>122628679
So what's the best class progression for sapper? Sapper c3 worth it? Too bad none of sapper skills can be used with reiter when mounted.

>>122628993
Bramble is an exception though, overall the Touhou bullets are the cause for most boss crashes that have been happening since maintenance. Good to know though, I have an alt almost at that point.

>>122629145
It'd be more viable if the pet could be told to not attack. It's a pain in the ass to dismount and then remount in combat at the moment.

>>122628993
Is that Corrupted? if so aoe spikes were not game crashing for me

>>122629145
Archer 2 for the Swift Step crit buff. I haven't talked to anyone who tried c3 yet, but posts on the forums suggest that Spike Shooter is a really terribly designed skill. I'll probably still go c3 Sapper anyway just for more levels in Broom Trap, because there's not really any other choice at tier 5.

Is flame pillar worth it? And if so, which skill is less useful compared to it? Firewall or fireball?

>>122629356
No, Bramble.

>>122629445
don't get firewall

Sometimes it crashes me when they initiate bullet"hell" or when a bullet touches me and sometimes it doesn't, both when I'm near or far enough for the boss not to show up on screen. On Low Mode

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CRYOKINO IS COMPLETE GARBAGE

Its combo is not that good, hell Pyro does arguably more damage against bosses.

Long ass cooldown after making that combo

Eats SP like it's nobody's business

Cryomancer is only good in C3

Psychokino is never ever good by itself


Meme combo classes, you're better off taking Pyro/Linker or Pyro/Thauma or hell even Wiz/Ele.

>>122627342
I would, because my character is a girl and girls cant use two handed swords with out breaking my immersion, so my barbarian would get nothing long term beneficial from c1 highlander

Cryokino or Cryolinker I'm going elem

>>122629656
Thanks for trying out Cryokino and letting us know.

So can I not buy varv skins without someone expecting 30k+ for each? I only need 6 more to make the shield and haven't gone out of my way to grind them yet.

>>122629656
But Linkers are a useless meme class

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>>122629706
Any other suggestions are welcome

>finally befriended a group of Taiwanese players
>"okay be real with me, are any of you grils?"
>"nope"
>o-oh
>"All the girls are playing at Saule. don't know why though"
>legitimately considering to move to Saule

On another note

>"But keep in mind we have a saying here in Taiwan. With girls it's black first, white second, brown third and yellow last."

>>122629795
niceme.me

Linkers are probably the ONLY future proof class in the game as of right now.

>>122629540
I guess I won't increase it, but why not get it? It's useful, hits flying, and buffs damage.

>>122629894
They want that BR nigger dick at Saule

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>>122629896
>buff sharing link
>have a c3 hoplite give over 150 crit rate to everyone with finestra
>everybody can't stop critting

It does work on those types of buffs right? I mean that's the reason to have a buff share skill in the first place right? Sharing normal buffs everyone could get unless they miss the AoE is useless.

>>122629706
linker, that plus cryo atributes has increased damage with lightning

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>>122630207
>spiritual link
>finestra's int attribute is actually useful

>>122630207
I get Gung Ho, Concentrate, War Cry, and Frenzy and shit when I play with my Barb friend, so probably.

>>122629896
> Linker in my party
> Can't use gungho because spellcasters in my party are going to get mad at me

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>>122629656
show me a PyroLinker who could do this

>>122630341
nice, I guess

>>122630351
Teach them how to cancel that shitty buff

>>122630351
>Using memengho past lvl 90

what's the point?

>>122630396
Psycho also has a combo with Pyro's fireball

>>122630396
k lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok2RyVFsvH4

>>122630207
Unless you have Dainos though, Spiritual Link is going to fuck over all the buffs you have because Spiritual Link is also a buff.

>>122630335
>10% of int
>only 40~ damage with a 400 int person in the group but everyone gets it
unless it works completely different

I'd say they should buff it to like 20% so it's not so low that it's useless but not so high that it's broken as hell.

What's a good level to stop grinding the level 90 dungeon so I can get to 130 without grind? 105? 110?

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I want to play dievdirbys,but the'yre broken.
Why IMC?

>>122630207
Oh shit
Also have a rogue use burrow and everyone is invulnerable

>>122630625
105 is a good place to stop because you need 103 to continue the story mission

>>122630592
Well that's just at lvl 200 cap, with shit itemization.
At 600 with high level gear it will be fucking stupid, but yeah it should be 20%, and finestra is shared so it should give the effect to everyone, unless attributes aren't applied through spiritual link.

>>122630290
The lightning damage I know as much, wasn't really sure what to pick as third circle though, thanks

>>122630553
Fuck that fire ground was so big before the change, they should've left it like that.

>>122630756
>15 links in a raid with Finestra alone being nice
>add on like 80~ to everyone from the 800 int sorc that sits afk while his summon fights

Might be neat.

>>122630553
how does he have 3 charges on his balls

>>122631038
That's the magic missle spell from wizard c1. The fireball spell still has 2 charges.

Archers, quick question.
Is it viable to go only once circle into rogue?
I'm debating whether to go archer c2 for the swift step critical, or rogue c2 for sneak hit rank 10 and backstab. Keeping in mind I already have 3 circles in another class.

Essentially:

> Archer > Archer > (C3 Class of chioce) > Rogue
Or
> Archer > (C3 Class of chioce) > Rogue > Rogue

>>122630701
Yeah, tried Diev up until C2 and all I can say is that the class is not only bugged, it's completely broken and useless right now. The gimmick is cool but the AOE is very small, the buffs are not worth it for the amount of time it takes to carve, teleporting statue is kind of stupid unless they make teleport scrolls really expensive or rare, the owls are meh

>>122631232
I thought you needed Scout for Rogue?

>>122631232
You need Rogue C2 because backstab is the only reason they're good.

>>122630207
Useless unless you have a krivis

>>122631343
Why do you need Scout for Rogue?

>>122630740
Thanks anon. Guess I'll just finish up my last round of runs and move on.

>>122631503
So you can actually backstab someone in PVP without having to literally walk to them and blow up.

>>122631418
+80% critical chance 100% uptime is not good?
It would essentially eliminate a large amount of points needed in dex, and instead you could focus these points into STR for more damage

>>122631551
>PVP

>>122631503
Just for cloaking, sneak hit and backstab remember?

>>122631591
you already have Swift Step and god knows how much dex, I don't think you'd need anymore crit than that honestly.

>>122631591
how do you plan on backstabbing things outside of a party?
they just turn to face you instantly.

Should I have more STR or DEX? Ranger here

>>122631615
Sneak hit only works on the first of backstab.

Senpais, please teach me how to color text.
I've browsed the previous threads and can do the Character Creation and bold meme text now.

Please senpais teach me.

>>122631602
It's what's going to be rolled when live is released.
>muh single target boss shredding
Other classes shreds boss fast enough while actually being useful against groups of normal mobs.
But yea sure, keep rolling builds that will be outdated once beta is over.
You sure aren't wasting the opportunity to test out future actually useful builds with that.

>>122631965
Stop being a build autist and play the classes with the best outfits

>>122629108

Looks good. Depending on how good/bad Slithering is, you might want to spend those points into Montano instead. But we will see.

>>122632075
His build isn't even all that useful except for PVP. Just leave it.

>tos has no sound now

t-thanks

>>122631680
>>122631631
>>122631786
Does sneak hit not work 100% of the time under duration? For example when partied and another member aggro's simply move behind enemies for 80% critical increase for a 70 second duration, as long as he holds the aggro

If not that makes it quite a hard choice.

Any suggestions on what to go if not rogue? If I were to go archer c2, that will still leave a space for 1 more class advancement.

Of course consider this entirely hypothetical, considering beta is nearly over and the next beta will have rank 7 options anyway

>>122632278
Clearly the work of Ganma

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If you could actually aim teleport I bet you everyone would go Psychokino. I wish it could overheat like swap at least.

>>122632534
Too bad you can't. Maybe a future class.

>>122632534
It's gonna be core in WoE.

>>122632629
I can't wait til they implement WoE

>>122632629
>>122632678
>with these bugs
>with these balance
gonna have to wait until 2020 then

What hair doesn't clip through shields? It drives me nuts

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>>122632678
>Enemies converging on the Emperium
>I just use my level 10 Swap on them into a Fire Pillar death trap

>>122632919
Roll a dude

>>122633014
>not swapping the emp away

>>122633018
Don't joke like that

>>122622969
>I have a Archer > Ranger > Hunter > Hunter
>Can kill things 50 levels higher then me, probably could go even higher.
idk what kind of weed this guy smoke

>>122633496
I don't know what he's talking about but you can do that with wugu poisons

>tfw I can't kill Bramble because halfway through I get some weird client crash error

>>122633496
I guess if he has a super high level pet from another Alt he could

In regards to hunters 'Retrieve;
The description states "Companion bites the target and brings it to the player."

Can you effectively continuously move away from your pet meaning the enemy will be continuously dragged around? Or does it drag it to the spot the skill was cast?

Playing cryo is a little strange after coming off an autoattack priest.
It's the controls that are just so imperfect. Either I use mouse an keyboard and be able to perfectly pick my targets but limit my movement while charging a skill. Or I can use a controller and have the ease of charging moving and not having to reach for the right spell, yet it's almost impossible to hit what I want to hit.

>>122633841
yes playing a Cryo is pretty horrible although at C3 your skills have an AOE of the size of the screen so you don't have to aim. Only play Cryo if you are a Masochist.

>>122633841
One suggestion is to use a mouse with function buttons.

>>122632534
Can't you, though? I've been holding down an arrow key while pressing teleport and I've always gone that direction, but maybe I just have stupid good luck.

>>122633950
I was going to make another archer now that I got to C6 but I might try cryo instead.

>>122633760
After reading the skill levels, I'm going to assume you most likely can, due to rank 10 having a maximum duration of 70 seconds:
http://www.tosbase.com/database/skills/30406/

>>122633950
As bad as Cryo is, I feel like tolerating suffering up to C3 at level 80 isn't that bad. I'll probably make one for my alchemist build on release. That fucking Frost Pillar, man.

>>122633760
Hunter here, yes you can. But there is a companion bug wherein your pet would walk so fast hence the duration is almost non existent.

>>122634320
How fast is the pet? Perhaps it would be easier if you can make a quick Webm?

>>122634320
hey, can i try pvp with you? i heard hunter have a skill that can stunlock.

>>122634190
I do wish cryo had a bit more damage to it during c1 and c2, or lower cooldowns in general. I know it's suppose to be a defensive class, but come on. I mean they killed off Ice Blast so all we have is Ice Pike and Ice Bolt. I really got the feeling ice blast was gonna be the cornerstone of the class in terms of aoe damage. Ice Wall as well if you don't mind the fact we can't use it to it's full potential without a Rank 3 class.

So even with the supposedly random rewards from the Fedimian missions every time I re-create a party for new mission when I get a repeat one they still have the same reward.

The only one that gives me exp cards is the cyro one and thats bugged out, send help pls.

>start quest
>6 lizardman magicians spawn
There's no way anyone actually tested this game.

>>122634661
just complete them and hope you get exp cards

i've already said the rewards are always the same now

>>122634731
wait till you get 12, then 22

>>122634731
I'm sure looking forward to that quest when I can't respawn with coins

anyone for 130 dungeon on gabija need healer and a dps

How does tanking even work in this game? Looking at the skills the only one who has any kind of Taunt is Peltasta. Does everyone with a blue class icon just generate much more hate or something?

>>122634731
>all these areas with unavoidable death

man, if they dont changed this shit im gonna be so pissed

>>122634878
There is no rage counter.
They stick to the first guy that they see unless someone else stands next to that guy or the enemies get knocked around too much.

>>122623705
How is it good?

>>122634990
That's really good to know and explains a lot, thanks for the info

>mfw Cactusvel in front of the Mausoleum right now

I'm never progressing any farther on this character, I guess.

CTDs, CTDs everywhere.

>>122634923
Like what if you partied with someone though

>>122634731
Party up with cleric, safety zone at the start, one shot the mobs if you're barb and they're close enough.
MMOs aren't meant to be played solo.

>>122634847
avoid 1st boss. My entire party client crashed there.

>>122635063
Could just ask some people for help

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>>122634990
then why is this a thing?

>>122635145
It's not the boss killing me, the game just constantly crashes because koreans are good at patching games and stuff

Not like I haven't already leveled 3 fucking characters past this without a single problem or anything.

>>122635110
Random leveling quests aren't meant to require a specific class combination so you don't die

>>122635234
Yeah, that's what I'm referring to. Get some people and push his phase past the bullet hell part since that's what seems to crash people on basically any boss since the last patch

>>122635251
this desu senpai
And even if it was meant to be a group quest, a group quest shouldn't be "you die right away because you didn't have a Cleric".

Should I pick Pierce or Strike for the 40-80 weapon?
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/202102/ (85-96 for 50k)
or
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/201109/ (96-109 for 30k)
I'm a priest, btw

>>122635234
gotta kill it before it manages to crash you
you can try standing far back when he shoots all the small shits to despawn them

>>122635409
>Should I pick Pierce or Strike
Both.

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Demon Prison District 2 vs Second Demon Prison

which is better exp wise

>>122634406
It's like when you're playing with latency issue and suddenly you get teleported to a certain place. I'll try doing some webm after I got home.

>>122634431
I'm on Zemyna server. Theoretically, yes Hunter can do a lockdown, but rush dog even with maxed attribute is overrated, it rarely procs. Also don't forget dispeller scroll.

>>122635553
district 2 until the exp penalty gets too high, but by then you can just use cards, second prison is for keks who didn't save cards.

>>122634658
What was ice blast like before the nerf?

>>122635714
0CD

Honestly I can't see it really being that good even back then because half the time I cast it it gets resisted
meaning that NOTHING FUCKING HAPPENS and I just waste time and sp

>>122635798
I think it used to be AOE too, it would combo so well with Ice Pillar since Snowball has a longer cooldown

every time i make pots while sleeping something happens and i have no pots

>>122635553
Second prison is a lot faster if you can kill the trees efficiently.

>>122635569
too bad I'm at Gabi. How about Retrieve?

>>122635506
Seriously?
Even on 40-80?

>>122635553
is that really all a blue mob will give at DP?

>>122635930
Wanting to retrieve a certain target in a group of enemy is impossible. The targeting system for pet skills needs some fix. It can also be dispelled by scroll.

>>122635553
>level 145 and never seen any blue mobs

>>122635798
>>122635862
it actually had more damage as well I believe. They really nerfed the fuck out of it.

>>122635998
Armor weakness helps. Also 90% of bosses seem to be pierce weak for some reason.

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>>122636048
if you can't overkill it yepp

>>122636115
Good IMC
Now do swordsman next

>>122635409
you buy both, but I can give you a +5 Spiked Mace if you're on Gabija assuming I havent chucked the thing already.

>>122636093
>this is what people in the forums wanted

>>122636093
>level 160 and never seen any blue mobs

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>>122636093
it was my second

>>122636226
>>122636130
Okay then, thanks.
I'm not on Gabija, but thanks again.

>>122636252
was that cause of international players whining or the koreans?

>>122636332
if you hit 75 though, buy a Golden Falchion. The damage you'll get off the crit kind of beats out on most damage weaknesses anyway. They're pretty easy to make if you got a gold bar from the level 50 dungeon.

Where's a good place to level a level 30 archer?

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/a-few-questions-to-you-for-our-future-development/118702

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Hello. We are IMCGAMES TOS Team.

We want to ask you a few questions for our future plans for TOS so it will be really appreciated if you could reply your answers below this post. Your answers will help us with our decision making regarding future development of TOS.

Do you want your character voices to be dubbed in English?
POLL : http://www.poll-maker.com/poll484888x1dCEf346-194

Please recommend us emoticons that can be used in chats in the game besides Korean style emoticons that are used in the game at the moment.

Thank you for your participation.

>>122635553
I'd only ever get like 1.5m exp per hour in District 2, but managed to break 2m several times in Second Demon Prison. You need a C3 Cryo for bunching and locking down those annoying trees. Lots of AOE in general helps as well.

>>122636414
>>122636440
>English dubs

NO
NO
FUCK OFF

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>>122636440
dont waste your fucking time dubing some terrible english voice into this game.

waste your time actually fixing shit

>>122636440
>>122636494
Sweet jesus no. Get that the hell out of here.

>>122636440
Jap pls

>>122636440
Fuck no

I want map, formula, bug, and class fixes

spend the time and money on fixing this shitheap of a game

>15 runs, still no dagger
Maybe the next ten will give me one

>>122636414
>>122636440
>Voted yes
Can't wait for the autist butthurt :^)

>>122636440
I actually didn't know there are no English voices before this, right when I installed the game I changed the audio language to Japanese

>>122636440
BRs come in handy for polls like this

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>>122636440
HATE CRASH

>cerberus spawns
>crashes with bullet hell

Where to level a Level 30 Archer shitter?

Chapel is a no go.

>>122636886
Use you goddamned cards

>>122636932

>using your cards pre 75

I love this meme!

>>122627585
Got it on one character 3 or 4 days ago. Created a character the day after and didnt get it. Neither character were in parties. I think its arbitrarily not rewarding the achievement in full for the characters that dont get it.

Tempted to kill another 500 of them and see if i can retrigger it.

>>122636932
no u

>using cards before the 199 slog

>>122637093
>Using cards at all
Fucking plebs.

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>>122636093
I feel you man.

>>122635714
>>122635798
>>122635862
https://youtu.be/MteDTdf0-Dg?t=45s

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tfw no exp counter

Reminder that cards is from evil. TRUST NO ONE

>>122636730
The default voices are fine though. Kind of cute and a bit of engrish. I like how clerics sound when they cast their spells. Too bad as a hoplite/corsair the only voice line I get is Fe-vah! (Fever, Jolly Roger).

>doing quests

>>122637353
>bit of engrish
>eyes pike

>>122626130

Frost Cloud is the whole point of Elementalist.

>Just turned Psychokino from my first circle Cryo
>Cool downs for the two main spells are 30 and 40 seconds each with only one use

and I instantly lost interest in this character.
With the exception of icewalling a boss I see no point in this class, at least until it's third rank.
Although even Gravity Pole seems like it's too long a cool down for too little use.

>not saving your cards for rank 7 grind
you guys know you're going to keep your characters for next beta right?

>>122636730
Buressingu!
Ribaibu!

So in the latest korean update, they nerfed monster gem power in gem leveling, and made it so removing lv1 gems from items will destroy the gem. If they're still character bound, what good will they be...? The idea of grinding mobs for your specific class gems sounds rough even by korean standards. Or giving someone your gear and then having them give it back with the gem... but that's a whole other pile of issues.

>>122637353
I love the engrish. Especially the wizard's "Ice tits"

>>122637602
in that case I would just grind class exp through daily dungeons.

:^)

Can you use Hoplite skills while mounted on Cata?

>>122637519
Frost Cloud should be a Cryo C1 skill like Flame Ground. Then we can pretend Ele doesn't exist.

>>122637626
SAFETEEE WALLUUUU

Besides gem mats and the minigame, is there anything I can do with boss cards if I'm not a summoner?

>cerebrus is up
>client crashes when he does that galaga bullshit

>>122637237
>party icons with members' heads
I want dis

>>122637884
play yu gi oh

>>122637051
>saving level 1 and level 2 cards that will, combined, earn you probably a single level post 75 if you use all of them


You should eat all the level 1s after you leave crystal mines. Use the level 2s to help you get to 40 so you can get a better weapon and grind faster

Level 3s should be used after running the level 50 dungeon 5 times, or 10 if you dont want to do any grinding anywhere else for a while

4 and 5s should be used to just keep you at zone recommended level as you quest through stuff. between levels 90 and 110 you should not use any cards, but run the dungeon instead.

6s can carry you through mage tower, unless your a build that grinds at mage tower. Either way you are grinding, use the 6s to help dictate where you will be grinding.

Dont touch those 7s and 8s

Or do since its too late to get c6 now anyway

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>>122637232
>hey remember that really great Cryomancer skill that lets them grind at a reasonable rate?
>yeah lets nerf that

>>122637232
So really they took cryo1&2
and removed the good and fun

Fuck that shit wouldn't even be OP here, not considering some of the stuff going on

>>122637925
AND THE CHAT TOO I DIDNT NOTICE THAT
THAT IS COOL

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Done gemming this one up. Now for some over-upgrades, but that'l be tomorrow.

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This one of you memers?

What do you take for Sapper?
Archer2->Sapper2->Rogue2 any good?

>>122638230
FUTURE PROOF BUILD

>22k HP Pelt2 Rodelero1
Yep, its a tank alright

>>122638262
archer 2 -> sapper 3 -> falconer ??? lol

>>122638283
ayyyyy

>>122638230
ultisupp

Broom Trap is a really dumb name. I can see why it's called that, but the guy who named it needs a few writing lessons.

>>122638262
thats one of the standard builds

i hate archer2 though, the buff doesnt last long enough, its always needing to be recast

sappers pretty shit, you arebasically going sapper2 just to get broom trap

id go archer3 quarrel shooter rogue2 (for stun, scout a shit)

id also go a dex build and use only the archer crit buff, so i didnt have to waste points on the rogue crit buff, but thats theoretical since i always quit somewhere in archer3 when i try this because archers are shit.

Who pushing Jews away with icewall here?

>>122638004
>>122638051
Like I posted earlier, I believe Ice Blast was suppose to be the cornerstone skill of the class. Like how Flame Ground is to pyro.
But nope, got to "BALANCE" cryo so lets nerf that into oblivious and beyond.

>>122638004
>>122638051
I rolled Cryo thinking they only nerfed the cooldown. 30s with charges is fairly reasonable. Little did I know they also removed the splash and refreeze. Making the skill complete and utter garbage. I Immediately rerolled Barbarian out of spite. Then dropped that too because I can't form an emotional attachment with anything other than a caster.

>>122638420
Stop falling for the Archer 3 meme then.

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>crash like 3 times
>still get a drop
>wow it's nothing

Also it's so easy to steal the bosses agro as a swordsman. Even after dying not even 30 seconds later I could get his attention back to me.

Do any gabija fencers want this meme rapier?

http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/314101/

>>122638420
Is sapper 3 bad?

>>122637232
>You can move around during psychic pressure
Now I don't know whether to take that or C1 Linker again. Also, was that really so broken that it needed to be nerfed that badly? Just the CD + 3 overheats would have been enough.

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anyone know what to do with this or is it a quest not implemented yet

>>122637626
>>122637841
the effigy one is the best
https://youtu.be/41E9gnMMkHE?t=1m

>>122636440
>Was going to vote "yes" because I hate the sound of Korean
>Realized from >>122636730 >>122636642 that I can put it in Japanese voice mode
>Do so
>Realize Koreans pronounced the English lines better
>Still can't stand the non-English Korean speak
>Want to vote yes again

>>122637353
>Fe-vah

Oh, so that's what she said.

>bleed is a good mechanics it does more damage to physical dps because it scales with critical rate and critical damage
- said no one ever

bleed does 180 per tick and 500+ if critical for 14 ticks, if it crits half the time i am dead.

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>>122638601
>that laugh

Honestly they just need to get rid off the overkill mechanic entirely. Or if they want it to stay change it to only affect silver and maybe loot. Jobs that can overkill levelling 3 times as fast is just ridiculous

>>122635553
I broke 2.3 mil with 2 linkers in my party. Didn't have enough AoE for how many links were thrown around.

>>122638872
What happens if you use that thaumaturge move that doubles exp and then overkill?

>>122638401
When there was a push here to fix the translation and a shitton of pushes got done, there was a good bit of discussion about renaming broom trap

Because what the fuck is a broom trap
But in the end nothing came of it because there is no good, short way of describing it simply.

Broom Trap sucks, but what else are we gonna name it that will be better and of reasonable length

>>122638981
You probably won't be able to overkill since it doubles the max HP, but it works on it. It's only additive though, not multiplicative. Both also work on Blue mobs btw

>>122638787
Maybe you should try being a cleric

Bleed is one of the two debuffs that I've found cure can actually remove.

It made orange lizards a prime grinding spot.

>1 magic arrow costs 350 silver to make
OY VEY

>>122638729
still the jap voices are so much cuter though

What the hell do all those consumable herbs do that enemies drop? The game doesn't say shit about them and they don't seem to have any effect.

>>122639265
They might be a little too high pitched though.

>>122639265
But unlike Koreans they can't pronounce the letter L. This is very important. Very.

>>122638523
Is Cerburus card better than Templeshooter?

just lost 80% of my gems

t-thanks IMC

Just finished all of Mausoleum and the other areas and got to 70% into 84.

Do I just grind until 90 now?