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Have you noticed your kohai today? edition.
Previous >>122340943
>[OKEANOS]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20151105
- Scenario written by higashide and nasu (only drake's lines)
- Medea Lily (4*) is the stage unlock servant
- David (3*) is the stage reward servant

>[Drake gatcha event]
November 5 (Thursday) 19:00 to November 18 (Wed) 13:59 JST
- Rate up in the Story gatcha for the new servants and CEs:
- 5*: Francis Drake
- 4*: Anne Bonney & Mary Read
- 3*: Hector, David, Euryale
- 3* Golden Hind, 4* Extra Rin, 5* Hakuno M, 5* Hakuno F CEs
- No need to complete Okeanos to unlock them
- They will not be removed after the event ends


>[Chaldea Gate Renewal]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20151110
November 18 (Wednesday) 16:00 JST
- Mana prisms will be reset every week
- New 40ap version for all the quests
- New quests (see link)
- No more Master Training, but you can farm free quests for that:
(Okeanos) 18 AP: 12,000 EXP - 17 AP: 10,000 EXP


>News and Reminders
- Latest changes (11/11)
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20151111
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php#20151104d
- Regular Maintenance: Every Wed from 14:00 to 16:00 JST

- Comptiq's interview with Higashide and Sakurai (about London)
http://pastebin.com/ipaXkpd2
http://imgur.com/a/jCif2
- Today is the last day to do Master Training quests -


>Dropmaps [Now with Okeanos]
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/G669xgbK

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>Data Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WI4dKGcwWjn5XpTgfLsK8c0cipRzrWbVpiLGeVr55Ks/htmlview?sle=true
http://pastebin.com/jtxyf37T (toaster version)

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/
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KING
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>roll for Pirates Slut
>got Whore of Babylon

I should to be happy for this ?
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>>122384252
Of course
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4st for Sagashite.
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>>122384252

She's worse than sieg
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>>122384027
>- Today is the last day to do Master Training quests -
One job, OP.
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I love my waifu!
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Every thread until Astolfo
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>>122384252
Nah burn her for acting like a 3DPD
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>>122384252
If you're a Nerofag, sure. Her stat curve is rough and Imperial Privilege is her only good skill, so you may be better off just using Caesar. I wouldn't use my gears on either of them, though.
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Cutest clown, cutest hat, nice thighs.
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>>122384341
How do we get huge amounts of master exp after this?
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>>122384630
Okeanos.
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>>122384630
What >>122384648 said.
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Can someone repost that one image of young Medusa? She looked kind of like a more serious-faced version of her sisters and still had her forehead sigil thing.
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Evil Witch
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>>122384685
You mean the free quests? Because story isn't replayable. I doubt the free quests for it give as much either. I swear this game just gets worse and worse.
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>>122384530
Her NP can work very well in an Arts team, though.

definitely not as bad as dragon dick.
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>>122384770
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>>122385089
That's the one, thanks.
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>>122384809
Last Okeanos free quest gives you 13k exp for 18 AP and have 3 enemies that drop plumes and 5 that drop nuts so it's not that bad.
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>>122384932
Yeah, that's the other thing I forgot. Her NP is decent for setting up NP chains. Much better than Siegfried's.
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>Mata Hari is UNRIVALED when it comes to a HGW because she can just charm the enemy masters into killing themselves

refute this statement

protip: you can't.
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>>122384252
Those Rins...
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>Try the Tamamo personality thing
>one google search and several *Stroke tamamo's behind her ears* later
tfw no cutie fox grill to call you master
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>>122384809
Lamia free quest
>17 AP for 8.1k exp

Centaur free quest is
>17 AP for 9.8k exp

Amazon free quest
>18 AP for 12.5k exp

You will be grinding these for ascension materials anyway.
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>>122385471
>you will be grinding these fo ascension mats anyway
Not if the revamped dailies next week turn out to be really good
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>>122385279
Poorfag version of the amount of keikaku that can be done with FSG.

Also Archers can fuck her shit up regardless of whatever charm she uses as they don't give a shit about Command Spells or their Masters dying.
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>>122385565
Charm the enemy master into multiple command spell suiciding their servant and then kill them
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KOJIRO LOVE JING KE
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>>122385546
I'm not getting my hopes up about that.
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>>122385645
I think that this might the first GO shipping that i'm fine with.
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>>122385785
Let him dream anon.
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>>122385546
Am I the only one whos going to be enjoying the tears?
I say with 90% certainty, they combine skill stones requirements aka servant last waves with ascension materials last wave so theres only a 50/50 chance each time you even fight against ascension mat enemy.
To top it off, the enemy being level 60 req will have 500k health + just so you can't grind fast and have to take ages each time
Screencap this as it will be as true as christmas event having no gears
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I've barely played at all the past few days and haven't been feeling much like playing except dor my waifu, bit it's just so shitty.
Please give me motivation to play it for her so I can be a better husbando. If only my waifu didn't come from such a shitty series...
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>>122385645
NO, NO, NO

KOJIRO LOVE MARTHA !!
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I'm the anon who rolled Gilles and Medea from near the end of the last thread. Any tips on who I should put with her?
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>>122385638
Not gonna work on Archers as it was already pointed out. She is fucked. Battle Continuation Servants will also fuck her shit up.
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>>122385565

>kerry summon saber lancelot
>disguise himself as the enemy servants so that he can bring the other masters out in the open while Kerry snipes them

Is there a more perfect 4th war pairing?
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>>122386181
>Bait enemy Servants into a room full of KoH Tactical Cocaine
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>>122386119
Try changing things up a bit and/or listening to her lines in myroom. They are translated after all.
E.g. Changes would be using liz (presuming thats your waifu from the image) in her caster form within a quick team or using all 3 liz
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>>122386178
Archers aren't immune to suicide commands
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>>122386157
I think you should reroll, and I mean that unironically.
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>>122386181
Kerry and Robin Hood would be a pretty dope combo.
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>>122385546
Don't worry, they won't. This is DW we're talking about.
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She literally passed up on a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Seriously, why didn't she fuck the horse?
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>>122386157
>gilles
Reroll anon whilst its still early
Medea works best on arts teams so you'll be wanting to put her with people like emiya or marta with their triple art cards.
Also make sure to level her divine words aka her first np giving skills to like level 4-5 so it insta boosts np gauge to 100%
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>>122386140
NO, NO, NO

MARTHA LOVE GEORGE !!
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>>122386375
So that you could fuck her instead.
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>Rolled Drake and lesbians in back to back singles
>Tfw you spent the longest time back during the launch happy as can be with Caesar and Cu as your best Servants
Who was your first Gold Servant, /fgog/? And who was your first Servant, period? Do you even remember? Mine were Jeanne and Caesar respectively
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>>122386427
I kinda figured the account might not be worth saving, even with Medea. The only reason I haven't gotten rid of it is because of Medea.
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You know, it's okay to make a new thread before the old one dies. A lot of generals do it.
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>>122386469
First servant ever was Boudica

I re-rolled
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>>122386469
Boobica, which will get exp and acensions once everyone else gets theirs...which might as well be never.
Fuck her first skill being so fucking useless
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>>122386140
>martha beats kojiro
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>>122386291

If lancelot had KoH'd the C4 on kayneth's hotel, would diarmuid have been kill?
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>>122386295
IA, Gilgamesh has already shown that he gives a fuck about Command Spells with IA rank A under Tokiomi.
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>>122386469
Vlad & Jing Ke
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>>122386469
Uncle Vlad was my first and only gold servant for a long time. Jing Ke was my first servant roll.
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>>122386375
Because Chiron is 2pure and she knows it.
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>>122386375

Could she handle the horsecock by herself?

>>122386427

What skill is that?
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>>122386469
First servant was Darius. First golds were Martha and Stheno since they came together with the 10 roll.
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>>122386435
NO, NO, NO

MARTHA LOVE ME!!!
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>>122386519
Medea is rare and great however gilles basically means you're fighting theough the tutorial with medea, cu caster, mashu, 1-2* and a support who will likely be carrying your ass.
Honestly, you're not losing out on that much
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>>122386435
NO, NO, NO

MARTHA LOVE SIEGFRIED !!
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>>122386591
Doubt it, they only destroyed the foundations of the building, and the building came down as a chain reaction. Although the destructive power of the C4 will obviously be much stronger with KoH, I highly doubt it would be able to destroy the entire building on its own.
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>>122386519
You can now focus all resources on feeding the mashu along with your medea
Seems good to me, medea insta-np rule breaking is pretty stronk
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>>122386469
My first servant as Darius,my first fp roll was George,,my first 1* was 4 Mata-Haris in one ten roll,my first gold was Atalanta and my first 5* was Vlad.
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>>122386786
This has pretty much been my experience thus far. I rolled a Leonidas, but he isn't doing much, and Medea doesn't really synergize with the rest of my team. The support has consistently been what keeps me going, which I don't like.
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>>122386469
On my first account I rolled Ushiwakamaru and retard cat back to back. I thought this meant your second roll was always a servant, so I re-rolled because I wanted someone else.

On my current account, Caesar was my first servant. and I picked Stheno for my free 4* for first gold servant. Got JETS shortly thereafter.
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>>122386992
>not liking easy mode due to having stronk support
Its like you want to go through dragonhell france or waste 3cs and barely win against alter jannu due to there being no stronk supports
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>>122386992
If only Leonidas didn't require three fucking talons. I would have used him a lot longer if he didn't.
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If you finished Martha's second interlude, you would know whom she really loves.
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>>122387136
I just don't want to have to rely on it is all. I'd like my team to have some power of its own. So far, I'm really liking Medea, so I might keep my account and hope for some luck. Besides, this game isn't hard enough to warrant constant rerolls.
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>>122387243
>cvcked by Jesus
Should have known. Fuck you, Jesus.
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>>122387278
You do know the reason this game "isn't hard" is due to everyone being insanely overleveled right?
Newbies who are actually at the correct level using the story support will find great difficulty in lots of situations
E.g. Demon in rome, alter jeanne, herc in fuyuki, stuff like the halloween quests, etc.
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>>122387043
Did you at least remember to keep the bind code for the first?
Or did you have a huge rage fit of losing a 4* due to the second time being KEYS and REJOICE
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>>122386795
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>>122387243
Was Jesus a harem lead?
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>tfw the level 90 support you've been using since day 1 unfriends you
I-it was fun, guess even with me giving you so much fp every day you still don't give a shit ;_;
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>>122388351
I really wish you could see who actually uses your servant as support.
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>>122387926
Imagine if he was a Japanese school boy.
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>>122388351
It would probably help if FP was worth a single shit. The prospect of getting some Fou's or other 3* things is undercut by the fact that I don't want to spend time getting rid of the inevitable dearth of 1* EXP cards and CEs I will get too. Like most things DW does, very poorly implemented.
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So David being better than EMIYA is a meme, right? There is no way some 3 stars can be better than a 4 stars, because the 4 stars always have better stats.
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>>122388624
LN title
>My Father is God and My Mother is a Virgin?!!
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>>122388797
>the only thing that matters is stats.

David's skillset is very, very, very good. I don't know if he's better than EMIYA, but his skillset definitely makes him comparable.

We have a 2 star that's better than 3/4 stars. Why are you so shocked?
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>>122388797
They have different niches
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What does this mean?
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>>122388797
David has significantly better skills and gains np faster outside of the rare crit which emiya hardly ever does even with his stars boosting skills.
Charisma and team dodge is insane team support.
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>>122388797
EMIYA has better stats, but David has far better skills. I still use EMIYA because he's convenient for killing saber mooks and putting a dent in waves with UBW. I also don't feel need to ascend EMIYA to his third stage, whereas I would with David. Fucking hearts.
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>>122389061
b&
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>>122389061
https://imgur.com/rebggVs
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>>122389061
ding dong
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>>122388797
David does emiya's niche of being a triple art deck much much better.
The only reason emiya was even considered good was because of his 3 arts deck.
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>>122388816
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>>122389061
Banned.

Like, actually banned. This one isn't a meme. You seriously, genuinely got banned.

>The ID associated with this account is stopped
>Would you like to start a new game?
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>>122389061
Ding dong, you shouldn't have used first wave clear or the 500* damage
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>>122389061
>he used the cheat APK
>now he's pretending to be retarded
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>>122389061

>someone actually got banned

Cheat APK everyone
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>>122388797
Emiya's skills are dogshit compared to David's full pary avoid, and the stats difference doesn't matter enough because primarily art servants hit low damage anyway, you want to use useful skills.
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>>122389140
>linking a picture on an imageboard
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>>122389436
You forget to mention david has fucking charisma as well.
Outside their nps in which case emiya is betrer for saber enemy wave clear, david completely rekts rmiya
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>>122389312
And of course the Redditor gives a serious answer.
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>>122389379
>>122389402

but i thought cheatapk wasn't bannable
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>>122389556
Davids np is single target right?
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>>122389556
Even np wise david beats emiya due to how easy it is to get 5 copies of the jew. Theres also the point that emiya is stuck in ascension hell whilst david isn't
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SINGLES ! ! ! !
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>>122389061
>from reddit post
I love how everyone's fear mongering about cheat apk when only a single dude has been banned.
https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3svfsc/help_i_cant_go_into_the_game_whats_this_mean/
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>>122390020
>linking reddit
Hey. how about you fuck off?
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>>122390069
>muh reddit witch hunting
>muh off topic whining when the post is on topic
Are you literally autistic?
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Why is Cake's NP gain such shit?
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>>122389379
>>122389625
Still using it
0 fucks if I get banned
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>>122390020
>average lancelotfag
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>le ebin cheatapk ban maymay

Fuck off back to moral highgrounds reddit
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>>122390270
>le let's convince everyone to use cheatapk so they get banned meem.
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>>122390270
>>122390443
If you look through the post history of the guy who got banned, it looks pretty clear that he doesn't cheat apk (Asking for fucking friend requests?)
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>>122390443
>le lets convince everyone not to use cheat apk so everyone farms as slow as I do
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YUKIMURA when?
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>>122390506
Maybe he bought an account from a known seller?
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What would be the best CEs for Medea?
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>>122390506
He probably tried to get free quartz by using LuckyPatcher or something.
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>>122390620
who the fuck would buy an account with lancelot and evil cat?
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>I have been playing this shitty game for 100 days
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>>122390770
>/125
White whale
Holy grail
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>>122390861
>implying
I'm full f2p anon, why would I give my sheckles to DW?
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>>122390712
LuckyPatcher does not work for server sided games.
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>>122390946
Does DW mean dreamworks?
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>>122390861
>someone has to point out every single time someone has spent money on a mobage like it's some new concept
well meme'd my friend
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>>122390741
If he's not using the cheat APK, I don't know why else he would be banned.
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>>122390986
Does it not work for in-game purchases?
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>>122390770
>spending money on a game you don't like
Simbly ebic
You're basically a real life tsundere
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>>122390993
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>Roll for Kaleido
>Get Hakuno
>It's not even the male one
Female Hakuno was a mistake, even her CE is fucking shit.
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>>122390946
>full f2p wasting quartz on expanding space
You're either retarded or a really bad liar.
Pick one
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>>122390993
>not knowing the name of the company that's jewing you
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I only get gold star servants when I roll. I've been trying to get Medusa for fucking ever and I can't..
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>>122391097
Basically, the way lucky patcher works is that it modifies the app values so it spoofs a fake purchase. For server sided games, such as Fate Grand Order, Clash Of Clans, etc, they will server sync to check if the data between the game and the server is the same (For Quartz Purchases, not for battles, as you can see that's how the cheat apk works since the values it modifies are not server checked and are offline). If the server detects a quartz amount mismatch between your app and the server, it'll fix it right back or some apps will think your data is corrupted and force a restore data.
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>>122391392
FUCK OFF YOU CAN VISUALLY SEE HE'S USING BLUESTACKS YOU BLIND FUCKER
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>>122391358
>I'm soooo lucky, oh woe is me
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>>122391247
>not expanding space for more convenient EXP farming
>staying confined to 50 spaces
>not having all the servants you want
If I really did spend money on this game I'd have maxed out the inventory slots for both CE and Servants.
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>>122390175
Her damage is shit too. Sure, she's tanky as fuck, but it's fucking pointless if these gooks don't have a method to influence who gets attacked. Taunt is only on a handful of Servants. Characters like Marie and Sieg are often not worth it because of these issues that they still haven't addressed.

Hell, they can't even fucking make normal speed higher than half speed, and that issue has been around for well over a month.
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>>122391475
Shat the fuck does he using bluestacks have to do with anything?
Are you literally autistic?
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>>122391247
Nothing wrong with expanding the inventory, especially if you're keeping one of everything to keep from having to empty EXP super frequently. I wouldn't expand it more than 30 at the moment though.
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>>122391626
>all caps
>spouting random unrelated shit
>calling others blind when he is blind himself or lacks reading comprehension
ofcourse he's autistic anon, how could he not be
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>>122391392
Ah, alright then. I remember hearing someone got banned for spoofing quartz in the first few threads, but I guess it was something else.
Thank you for explaining, anon.
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I- is buying more space for servants okay if I want to collect all the servants...? (including every 1/2/3*'s)
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>>122390861
Not him but I'm sitting on about 75 and I'm totally F2P. I just keep every Servant I get so that tends to clog up my cards.
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>>122391515
>roll 5 star servants more often than 4 star servants
>people constantly shit on my 5 star servants and talk about how their 4 servants are better
Actually feels surprisingly bad.
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I thought I was banned until I realized that I was playing F/GO right now
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>>122391247
I'm f2p and have 41 servants,so is either burning some of them, expanding my storage or stopping to sell exp every 2 quests.
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>>122391847
what servants do you have
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>>122391751
It might be possible that DW is really fucking incompetent so it can be exploited, but then they'd just ban you after. Never tried it myself so I don't know.
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>>122391771
You need to roll them first.
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>>122391771
Better than using 4 quartz on black Keys
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>>122391771
Do what makes you happy not what another anon would agree with
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>>122391771
I say it's okay. I'm at 41 servants myself. Soon as I hit 42, blowing a quartz. I like to keep space for two runs of experience, thank you very much.
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>>122391653
I thought the standard procedure was to just use those gold exp immediately and burn the silver ones. Saving for the class bonus exp hardly seems worth the quartz.
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>>122392041
this
people who hoard exp can do it in their gift box
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>>122392041
Wait do you use 5 at a time even if they're not class bonus or what?
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>>122391935
Attila, Tamamo and Drake.

I don't think they're shit myself, but it still bothers me when people say that Alter is the best Saber, Tamamo is utter shit and Mary&Anne are better than Drake.
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>>122392041
Eh. Every bit helps.

Plus, ain't it frustrating when you could have gotten a level if you'd just gone for the class bonus? Or when a silver is exactly what you need to cap out someone?
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>>122392295
>best rider
>cutest saber
I don't see how that's bad
at least you didn't get orion
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>>122392295
They are all fine,just not compatible with each other.
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>>122392295
But Arturia is best saber, Tamamo is indeed utter dog shit and pirate sluts are on par with Drake
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>>122392295
Tamamo IS shit and shes even my waifu.
The issue is that waver is significantly better than her in every way along with her having such competely shit skills (outside her 3rd), even her np is meh due to needing a np to do it whilst she also charges np slower than normal by 0.12
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>>122391751
>>122391940
To spoof a purchase and get those free iap will take serious time and effort. You have to get the timing right (within ms) and you have to keep trying to find which packet the server will accept. If your gonna try it, hope DW is incompetent to make your job easier.
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>>122392456
Attila works with Drake, but both are better of not being teamed up with Casko
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>>122392218
Yes, I don't get servants outside of the FP gacha since I'm saving, so focusing on one servant at a time suits my needs. The only real inefficient part of this is QP, but I'm still sitting on 20+ million.

>>122392308
I'm not bothered. That's what the left over silver exp is for, like you mentioned.
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>>122392518
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>>122392295
As someone who owns tamamo, I can testify that shes utter shit even after the np upgrade.
Her np is complete and utter garbage.
She doesn't even do her niche of arts (like how orion rekts men) well due to waver completely rekting her
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>>122392453
Orion is cute too, as long as you keep the game on mute.
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>>122392456
Nah they work fine. Drake and atilla both have two art cards and casko can get their NPs out fast while drake and her shit out stars
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>>122392737
>Orion
>Cute
>That shitty art
Wrong.
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>>122392295
>Alter is the best Saber
Yup, her cost to performance ratio is too good.
>Tamamo is utter shit
She's awful in any non art team, which is what you have so kek.
>Mary&Anne are better than Drake
Pirate Sluts nuke NP is great but Drake's ability to generate stars and generate NP for herself quickly puts her above them in most cases. So at least you have one 5 star who's good :^).
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>>122392719
>>122392553
So what do I do when she's my favorite out of them?
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>>122392737
I agree, Orion is cute.
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>>122392295
They're wrong besides tamamo being trash
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>>122392846
Her face is not bad,is the rest of her that is shitty
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>>122392842
You want 9 art cards for Tamamo to be worthwhile, otherwise Tamamo's spot would be better replaced by another servant.
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>>122392913
35 Stars just from Drake using her level 2 NP and skill, then add some quick cards and other servant skills and you can easily get 60+
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>>122392956
Except Tamamo is not trash

Glad we're back to this shit
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>>122392737
She looks soft. I want to sleep on top of her.
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>All this tamamo hate
;_; can't even argue against it since its true
Tamamo buff fucking when?
Is this going to be extra all over again that shes only good at the very end of the game? Is DW going to put her fucking interludes all in babylon or something?
Because thats what I'm reading due to how shit she is currently
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>>122392737
I like listening to Orion though.
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>>122393206
>Tamamo Buff
Siegfried needs one way more than her
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>>122393206
She's not shit fucking christ. It's the new 'cool' thing to spout out about ever since Waver got his retarded buffs
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>>122392956
But she is a qt.
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>>122393293
But she really is.
Shes second worst 5*
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>>122392295
I actually like Tamamo and Drake together, with Drake's skills she can spam her NP even more often than other servants with Tamamo and all the crit stars from Drake help them build up NP more from arts crits. If you level skills at all on servants with good skills and NPs, Tamamo's really good. Even without a full dedicated arts team with 9 arts cards I'm getting Tamamo's NP off constantly, I've found her to be very useful.
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>>122393169
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>>122393206
>interlude in babylon
no, that's probably attila and gil
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>>122393391
In these scenario who is the first one to die?
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>>122393435
Hideous
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>>122393405
Yes because unless your the very best then you are automatically beyond shit. Besides if we're talking about an arts team formation then she would be number 1 or number 2 if you want to fellate Jeanne and waver so much
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>>122393206
Unless you spent unrefundable money to roll her, I don't really see any reason to complain.
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>>122393264
Why?
She is Miyuki worst role by far.
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>>122393743
>she would be number 1 or number 2
>Jeanne
>Waver
At least learn to count
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>>122393605
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rate my roll
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>>122393543
You.
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>>122393752
I used money alright. But then I refunded it hehehe
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>>122393908
I don't think anyone honestly thinks Jeanne is better for an arts team when all she can do is bring damage thanks to the multiplier and block NPs which David can already do better than her
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>>122394030
WHITE WHALE HOLY GRAIL
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>>122394030
76/190
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>>122393752
Got her in free 40 so guess no room to complain... Just want her to be better since only 5* ;_;
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>>122393908
And you should learn to read.
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>>122394030
waifu/10
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>>122393951
This is much better.
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>>122394030
>at least Lv2 NP vlad
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>>122394153
Any 5* is something worth cheering about. Especially If it's someone you wanted

Seriously stop caring what people say about x
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>>122394030
White whale
Holy grail
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>>122394168
I read your post just fine, but Tamamo is still inferior to both Waver and Jeanne, even in arts teams
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>roll a ticket

>best saber guilles finally makes his appearance after dodging him until now

>now I can't do FP summons at all

it's funny hows things work...
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>>122393416
I wanted to try building something like this, but still need more levels to test it out properly. 8 art cards means slightly higher than 50% chance of getting an arts chain, which together with maids CE lets Tamamo get up her NP often, which makes everyone's skills and NPs more spammable. Both Drake's NP and Liz' skills produce crit stars, which Drake will suck up since she's a Rider, thus the Hakuno CE on her. Liz getting damaged from the black grail shouldn't be that much of an issue when her skills and Tama's NP heals her, and 60% damage on a level 5 NP should be interesting.

Obviously it's not optimal to have 2 casters, but isn't that a lot of synergies?
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>>122394030
>>>/beastslair/
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Should I do it? Already have Male Hakuno, Drake and 4* sluts
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>>122394030
>vlad isn't new
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>>122394397
>can't make my own decisions.
Fuck off.
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>>122394397
Do it
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>>122394397
Yes.
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>>122394372
you should put female hakuno on drake if you have it, or dango CE, since you have an arts team, you probably will prioritize arts over busters when selecting drake's cards
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>>122394187
I just noticed it was a resized version. Let me fix that.
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>>122394604
Why is she bullying Orion?
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>>122394372
I'd recommend using something like Projection Magic or Formalcraft once you have Tamamo's Fox's Wedding skill, those are also supposed to increase NP gain because of the increased damage. Personally I want to try to get the Another Ending CE for my team.
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TFW you don't have enough plumes to max ascend Arturia, but you can max ascend Lily and Alter. Fucking plume drop rates..
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it's confirmed what servants will be in the next gatcha ?
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>>122394030
Snax/10
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>>122394896
Have hope anon have hope, the new dailies might save you.
and than despair, hope was in pandoras box after all
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>>122394782
Orion was made for bullying.
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>>122395068
Not at all. Could be waver/Vlad or iskander. If it's a new event they'll announce it tomorrow morning
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How much bond do I need for retard cat interlude?
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>>122394550
Only have male Hakuno, figured he'd be good since her NP is buster. Dango isn't maxed either. Does it even affect how many crit stars you get from NPs? Never thought about that.
>>122394814
Only have Projection Magic. Is it really worth it? 15% doesn't seem like much on arts cards, when they deal so little damage in the first place.
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>>122395628
I've been using Projection Magic myself and I haven't noticed much of a difference in NP gain between it and Divine Banquet, so I'd say the extra damage is worth it. Fox's Wedding is also like a 3 turn arts Prana Burst on any ally, so that's just extra damage you can stack with it if you use it on Tamamo.
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>>122395891
Does art with Kiyohime and Gudao even exist?
i think a only see him with Olga and Gilles.
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>>122396504
No but there's one with him and Gilles
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>>122396627
I'm almost beginning to enjoy posting this
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>>122396504
I have seen one but yes Gudako and Kiyohime it's more prevalent.
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>>122396779
Thanks for haunting our memories as we slumber anon
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Post dream teams
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>>122397303
semiramis, gilgamesh, enkidu
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>>122397303
A team of 5 5*s all equipped with 5* craft essences that fit their decks
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>>122397303
Atilla, Da Vinci, Scatahch, David, Drake and Mashu
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Someone posted a summary of the most recent chapter of Fragments on BL.

Bryn finally snapped. Also, Manaka can stop her spear with a single finger.
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CE that increases skill effects when?
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>>122397303
Semiramis, Scathach, Lancer Alter Arturia
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>>122397303
Lancelot/pirates/Jack
Just waiting for Jack, I hope to god she's not the London rate up.
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>>122397530
Did she go around trying to rape men or something?
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>>122397303
Scathach, Semiramis, Evil Cat, Pirate Sluts, UNRIVALED

>>122397614
>Hoping someone you want isn't rated-up
Excuse me?
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>>122397574
>Davids dodge now 2 turns and 3 when the CE is maxed
Please no
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>>122397303
Amakusa, Frankenmoe, Shakespeare
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>>122397574
A CE that reduces skill cooldown is more likely.
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>>122397760
If London comes within the next 2 months, I'm going to miss it.
If delightworks delays London until March though then sure I'll be excited.
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>>122397530
Did she die yet?
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>>122397303
Nero Bride, Nero, Mother Harlot

The rest don't matter
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>>122397303
Attila,Brynhildr,Parvati.Mordred and Medea,
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>>122397530
>Manaka continues to be "lol look at how OP I am the character"
>People actually like this
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>>122397303
Ozzymandias, Lancelot, Arturia

Hopefully Ozzy's NP provides stars (and hopefully they buff those bullshit skills they gave him)
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>>122397303
Scathach, FSN Cu, Caster Cu, Proto Cu, Cu Alter
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>>122397303
Saber Arturia, Saber Alter, Saber Lily, Arturia Lancer, Arturia Lancer Alter, Nero, and Mordred.
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>>122397530
Sounds more like Manaka's special snowflake/pure demon status just makes her immune to it rather than it being a strength feat. Because she's so evil, Lancer feels nothing at all towards her despite liking everything else just a smidgen.

>>122398080
Nobody likes it, but it's part of her character. I'm expecting the final chapters to sort of break it all down as she gets shanked by Saber.
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>>122398080
it's because she's best girl
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>>122398142
>chivalry
>imperial privileged the most OP skill in the game once leveled up enough
>bad
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Zouken vs Acht when?
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>>122397753
She steamrolled her way through Hassan, brushed off Phil's magic tricks like it was nothing, and in general she just went berserk with her 300 metric tons of spear-shaped love. She seems to have started hallucinating a bit as well, getting Arthur and Sigurd mixed up in her head. Her Master tried to stop her with a command seal, but she just ignored it.
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Need. more. gems.

>>122397303
Saber Lancer Alter, Plain Clothes Medusa and Grand Saber.
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>>122398290
Acht is just another puppet in the end

The real Einzeberns are dead
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>>122398257
>chance based skills ever being good
>leveling skills beyond 4-6
>he seriously levels skills
Enjoy needing all those hearts, talons, plumes and more.
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Even if my body decays,

please marry me!
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>>122397303
You, Me, Us
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>>122398362
Saber does not automatically equal Arturia now.
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>>122398431
Just reopen the game and try again if you don't like the result
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>>122398362
>only 20 apples left
Yeah gl with getting the christmas event CEs
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>>122398504
Saber will always be Saber. And who would want a frilly Saber in a dress using a large quill as a weapon?
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Help what is happening I usually get 75-100FP per day
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>>122397303
Ozzy, Brynhildr, Gilgamesh
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>>122398623
>And who would want a frilly Saber in a dress using a large quill as a weapon?
I would. A more feminine Arturia in general would be welcome.
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>>122398257
Bad as fuck, his imperial privilege isn't even EX rank, which means the % chances of what it does will also be lower than the optimal amount that EX provides, his charisma should also be buffed from B to A
Hopefully they rework him
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>>122398794
They will touch him up like they've done to everyone else.
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>>122398290

Kotomine vs Zouken when

Still mad that they hyped that matchup but they never ended up fighting.
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>>122398725
>What is Lily for 500
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>>122398794
If he does end up being a 5* he'll probably be buffed considerably. Chances are though he's a 4* since he has a dick
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>someone made Manaka and thought she was a good idea

Thanks TM, I enjoy edgy mary sues in my stories!
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>>122398662
What the actual fuck.

Urayamashi.
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>>122397303
Saber, Gawain, and Lancelot should be pretty funny together.

My other dream team would be the maximum cute team with Lily, cute book and Illya (Stay Night) as members.
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>>122398954
And she's a great daughteru, but I meant someone at least FSN's body type, if not Alter Lancer.
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>>122399005
We already had Ryougi though
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>>122399005
Is she really a mary sue when the one person she actually cares about stabs her in the back because she's so fucked up?
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>>122398982
>Chances are though he's a 4* since he has a dick

That makes me kinda happy, since he should be theoretically easier to pull in that case, but it also makes me sad since he'll suffer from lower stats and he deserves the 5* since he was fucking everyone's shit up in proto
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>>122397303
Ozzy, Enkidu, Attila.
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>>122398917
Fucking secondary scum read the goddamn VN.
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>>122399145
>Shiki
>edgy
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>>122399145
Leave Shiki out of this.
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>>122397303
Front
ARASHU, Asterios

Back
Mozart, Mata Hari, Kojiro
All with max NP, Grail Ascended and maxed 5* CE's.
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>>122399207
Maybe he'll be in the Alter Saber tier of 4 stars that perform like 5 stars.
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>>122399350
The revenge of da Vinci's furnace team.
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>>122399350
>not moving support to back
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>>122399207
By the time they release him we should already have grail ascension,
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>>122398080
Supposedly it's not because of any power inherent to Manaka. Bryn's spear just doesn't work because Bryn hates the fuck out of Manaka. Like, there is a total absence of any positive feelings whatsoever. The spear's power is proportional to the love she feels, so in regards to Manaka the spear is useless. It still doesn't make much sense since it's still a sharp object swung with superhuman strength, but whatever the details the fact is that it doesn't work. And yes, I know it's all shit.
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>>122399397
That would be pretty good too, but it would depend on which of his NP's they implement

>>122399461
Do we even know what grail ascensions will do? I don't remember reading anything about the perks of doing it (though the logical thing would be better stats, maybe another NP unlock?)
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>>122398982
>>122399207

He is a male, but he is also in the DW's Golden trio, with Gil and Kintoki. Even leaving aside is OPness, I just can't see him being anything but a 5* due to that fact alone.
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>>122399509
What if Bryn just slapped Manaka? Would that work?
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>>122399509
How could the spear translate into gameplay?
Like Euryale NP? or something like "more damage to charmed opponents"?
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>>122399554
So, far the only guess is that it'll unlock lvl 100 limit for any Servant.
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>>122399731
Dunno, maybe. Bryn seems to have quite easily stomped her way through Hassan and Paracelsus.
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>>122399509
>Kuzuki can't barely budge EMIYA's face with a full power punch
>Brynhildr can't kill Manaka with a Noble Phantasm spear and B+ strength because she doesn't like her
Explain this shit Fate fags
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>>122399839
She's going to be another orion/euryale probably

So irredeemingly shit
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We can already add Brynhildr high here
>gets betrayed by her own master
>gets fucking destroyed by Manaka
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>>122399554
10 levels per grail ascension with lvl 100 cap
This fits with how all previous ascension works.
Cap of 100 fits because data mined growth rates went up to level 100 and with mmo tradition
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>>122399509
How the spear works has been recorded since CCC

Its not really a spear, rather its Byrn's heart given physical form in a sense. An inversion of love and hate, the more you love the more you will kill them.
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>>122400064
Inbetween Vlad and diarumuid seems about right
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>>122399996
How is this hard to understand? The spear is Byrn's heart essentially, it has no power without love.

Her only power is yandere love turned into destruction. If she feels nothing for the target, then her attack has no substance.

This is why she has to basically be a harlot to win a grail war.
>>
So who wants to break it to the brynhildr fags that they're waifu is going to be the worst 4*? What are her skills?
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>>122400064
>Cu killed his son
>lower than the zero crybaby
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>>122399996
That's because Brynhildr NP works in who she loves, and she loves pratically everything.

>>122400064
Fuck, just now I realized I forgot to save the updated version where the two Karnas were one and the Enkidu pic was updated to the one from F/go.

>>122400184
This seems right.
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>>122400307
Even without the spear she's a fucking servant, she should be able to beat Manaka down with B+ strength alone
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>>122399350
How is your team looking?
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>>122400434
The chart is based on how much they whined about it, rather than the shit they went through.

Diarmund was a bitch about it.
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>>122400064
Will Scathach be inversed? Since her suffering is being immortal.
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>>122400405
Does she even have any real fags? There have been a couple around but most of the ones posting about her only came out with the recent chapters and are about as interested in her than in a pornhub video
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>>122400493
Sadly, the chart isn't reflecting what you say. The chart is shit or you are shit.
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>>122400405
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>>122400450
Maybe she could, but not if she's using the spear at least.

Just use your hands.

The spear can only be ranked on a value of love in terms of damage.
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>>122400626
She has a Mana Burst derivative so that alone should be fine so long as it matches with her NP
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>>122400626
So just prana burst? Damn
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>>122400591
Those two
>>122397974
>>122398682
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>>122400591
I-I
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>>122400064
Posting the version with updated enkidu
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>>122400626
>Passive: Increase debuff resistance by 18%

>Passive: Increase overall damage by 100
>Self: Increase critical damage (3 turns), Increase debuff resistance (3 turns) 18-45%
>Passive: Increase quick card damage by 10%
>Self / All Enemies: Greatly increase Buster Card damage (1 turn), Inflict Burn to all enemies (10 turns)
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>>122399005
>>someone made Manaka and thought she was a good idea
That someone would be Takeuchi. She's one of his creations.
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>>122400456
>Maxed Mozart and Mata-Hari
Why?
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>>122401107
So the generic Lancer deck then
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>>122400626
>rune magic aka useless
>divinity e of 100 damage which means jack shit
>riding: lel
>prana burst flames aka basically what prana burst pumpkin does but with a stronger dot
Outside prana burst she has literally nothing, her np will probably be gender focused too.
So overall, shes as bad as stheno, maybe slightly better due to prana burst
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>>122401107
>Only two active skills
Thighs 5* confirmed
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Why is EXP the only good thing to buy in the prism shop? Who would want some crappy Fou CEs?
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>>122401410
Arjuna just have two skills too.
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>>122401746
The Fous let you increase a Servant's HP and Attack IIRC.
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>>122401746
Here's your (you)
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>>122401746
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>>122401746
Why would you trade 30 silver exp for one?
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>>122401410
>>122401789
Can always just add a skill. They did it for tamamo too
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Is Halloween Carrot worth leveling to 80?
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>>122401356
>Rune Magic useless in the post-crit-buff era
Get a load of this guy.
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>>122400738
I'm just gonna take a guess and say her NP will just be a damage bonus against male foes. Maybe with a twist on it, like the damage bonus increases against foes that attack her, or that it scales with the level of the enemy, or something.
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>>122397530
I guess Manaka has EAM rank EX.
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>>122400064
>>122400184
Making it now.
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>>122402195
yup
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I'm going to escape this hell
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>>122402231
>>122401071
Make sure to use that version and thanks anon
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>>122402195
>free 4* servant
>ascension items are given out in event
>not leveling her
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>>122401746
620 prisms stocked and nothing to spend them on. Life is suffering.
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>>122402231
Use this as a base.
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>>122397530
>Tatsumi tries to talk lancer into ending the war
>gets ignored
Man, this guy really didn't know how to pick his battles. He just spent all his time lobbying to people who didn't give a shit, he's like the most >relevant master of them all.
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>>122398362
Here's my Servant and CE List.
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>>122402528
Should have used CCC Karna and not the Apocrypha one, it's more proportional, do this >>122402231
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>>122402907
whale
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>>122403120
F2P actually, just been playing since launch.
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>>122386375
Why is she so cute?
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>>122400450
Maybe it's a conceptual weapon kind of thing? As in, the destructiveness of the spear is what increases as her feelings grow stronger, so without any love the spear conceptually cannot harm anyone no matter how forcefully it's swung.
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>>122403303
Sure thing
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>>122403120
>5 rolled golds
>No 5* servant
How is that a whale?
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>>122403390
Or maybe Manaka has EAM EX.
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>>122401312
>not using servants that you like
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>>122403371
Handicap moe.
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>>122402962
Do you know the font used for the names?
I'm looking for it online.
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I want to marry this snake!
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>>122403620
Enjoy getting cheated on.
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>>122403620
>cowtit giant
No.
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>>122403620

>Medusa can walk around without covering her eyes in stay/night and no one gets petified

why is this allowed
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>>122403620
Why does her eye color look so much better there compared to in GO
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>>122403120
Is this the new meme now? To call anyone who posts their box a whale?

We really need to work on our memes, because this is getting lame.
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>>122403620
Post Sweaterdusa then we'll talk
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>>122402907
>also only 3 Halloween Princess
I feel your pain m8.
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>>122403728
>giant
Since when 172 cm is being a giant?
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>>122403620
If you unlock her interlude, you actually marry her.
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>>122403303
Having that amount of gold servants as a f2per is normal
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>>122403390
Unless it specifically overwrites STR.
Servants use STR when swinging weapons/NPs, even if they are E- ranked STR is what matters when they are not used as NPs.
Essentially, it doesn't matter what she wields, be it her spear or a wooden stick (although that one would most likely break with her STR).
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>>122403981
When your sisters are the ideal greek lolis.
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>>122403728
She's only 174. How freakishly short are you if you consider 174 centimeters to be gigantic? You could just say she's a shit or something and that'd be okay, but instead you express something so completely wrongful as the idea that 174 centimeters should be considered exceptionally tall for a fully grown adult.
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>>122403857
I don't want to talk with you.
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>>122404006
>2 5*s
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>>122404260
I have Drake and Arturia, f2p. It is possible if you are not a complete dumwit
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>>122403570
Goddamn, that combination of helplessness with apparent acceptance of her condition and gentle humility towards those she depends on really tugs on my heart. Do I need to read whatever she's from now?
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>>122404260
it's not that unusual for f2p to have multiple 5*s
if you reroll for one at the beginning, it's not that hard to roll another one with the amount of gems we got so far
pic related is not even my main, and it has 3 5*s
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JACK WHEN
LOLIBUTT FUCKING WHEN
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>>122404260
I have Gil + Kintoki
both max ascended
along with a few 4*s on the third ascension
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>>122404375
>I have Drake and Arturia
>f2p
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>>122404395
She survives, but Apocrypha is pretty shit after volumes 2 or 3ish.
There's some love-ish-ness between her and Chiron, but nothing really happens.
Since Apoc is basically missed opportunities: the thing, Chiron isn't a centaur and Fiore doesn't get to ride on his back.
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>>122404395
She is into horsedick anon.
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SHIKI
H
I
K
I
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>>122400064
>>122402231
Couldn't find the original font, but this one's close enough.
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>>122404608
I'm sorry you have shit luck anon, most f2p players have more than 1 golden servant. Hell I've gotten Jeanne twice, Orion and Attila.
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>>122404541
>that fat butt
>loli butt
Her butt is not one a loli should have.

>>122404608
I have Saber and I'm sitting with 320 gems, didn't even reroll. I also have Vlad in my other account, it is not impossible to have two 5* as a f2p.
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>>122404807
Saved.
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>>122404773
She could be so cute if the artist didn't make her look like a creepy skeleton woman with claws.
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>>122404807
You did good anon
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>>122404917
Actually no. Most F2P have one golden servant, two if they are a bit above average luck.
On average it takes 400 gems to get 1 golden servant. Fairly sure as F2P you couldn't have gotten 800 gems even if you played since launch.
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>>122404608
I laugh at your shity laugh as well.
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>spent 80 bucks
>only Tamamo and Zhuge
Fuck this game.
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>>122405106
>Getting two 5*s for $80
You're lucky you didn't just get 3*s and 4* CEs
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>>122404807
Why was Brynhildr so misfortunate?
From what I have heard, it doesn't sound as if she went through worst luck than Diarmuid.
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>>122405106
Why complain? You have the makings of a great arts team
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>>122404807
I'd argue Bryn has the most suffering but I guess that's up for debate.

Also didn't Karna suffer a bit?
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Vlad Lily when?
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>>122405063
No way. If thats the case then my luck is Ex+++
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>>122404761
Can't blame her, I would be too if I was a girl.
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>>122405146
>Spending money
>Not refunding like 500$ worth of stuff and endless ce's
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>>122405196
She hasn't hit the wall yet, but it's looking to be pretty bad.
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>>122405106
I got those two as a fp2,both with tickets,
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>>122405240
Yes way. The rate for a 5* servant is 1%. 100 rolls is 400 gems.
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Is the first refund guarenteed?
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>>122405196
When summoned her master drugged her so she would want to fuck Arthur with the force of a million suns
Her master betrays her like an owner would with a useless toy
Everyone is an ass to her except Arash who explodes into fairy dust to save his master
Gets wrecked by manaka not even doing anything
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>>122405063
>400 gems for 1 golden servant
Now that's just silly talk. 80 gems and a couple summon tickets is more than enough most of the time.
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>>122405063
5*s aren't the only golden servants.

But yeah, that guy has EX luck.
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>>122405063
>400 gems to get 1 golden servant
you're full of shit
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>>122405343
Holy cow way!
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>>122405210
It's scientifically impossible to make karna suffer

So no he didn't
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>>122384027
I don't even know what this general is, but what is that op pic from? All results are in JAP
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>>122404608
I'm starting to imagine that this shitposter is someone with E rank luck who somehow hasn't managed to get a single 4* or 5* servant despite playing since day 1, and tries to deal with the pain by denying the fact that it's impossible to roll gold servants at all as F2P.
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>>122405063
They gave two gold free, one 4* to your choice and Halloween Liz.
If they rerolled for the servant they wanted, then they have a third gold servant.
Plus the other one you speak of, you have some players with average luck with 4 or 5 gold servants.
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>>122405461
It's a 1% chance to get a 5*. DW themselves have said this.

Just because you're lucky doesn't mean that the statistics are wrong.
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>>122405063
I thought I had E rank luck, considering I've never rolled a 5* until recently.
I guess it's A by your measure.
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>>122405504
So it isn't an objective take on it.
That makes sense I guess.
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>>122405626
why are you acting like 4*s doesn't exist
you should also have rerolled for a 4* or 5* if you're not retarded
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>>122404260
The average is one 5* per 400 quartz. I think the total amount of quartz one could've have acquired by this point is less than twice that. Now, assuming you reroll until you get a 5*, the most common number of 5* servants people have would be 2 or 3. If most people didn't reroll for a 5* but instead settled for any gold, the most common number of 5* servants is 1-2. And there's plenty of people who didn't reroll at all. They will most commonly have just one 5*.

The sample of people who post their collections here are certainly not representative of the average. There's nothing to brag about being average, so the average player doesn't post.
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>>122405526
It's from a doujin.
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>>122405421
>>122405448
>>122405461
Well, yes, 4* are also gold, but considering how the only servants namedropped there have been 5* I assumed the discussion was about 5* servants.

And there isn't any room to argue that on average 1 5* servant=400 gems. These are official released numbers and whatever surveys people conducted at launch were very close to 1%, even if these "surveys" aren't any proof in themselves, but they do back up the official numbers
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>>122405063
>Jeanne,Drake,Atalanta,Lancelot,the lesbians and Stheno.
>the free 4* Martha and caster Liz
completely f2p
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>>122405626
DW gives more opportunity to obtain a 5* servant to the people who spend money in the game unlike F2P players.
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>>122405682
Yeah. Bryn still has a ways to go before she surpasses Vlad but she's not dead yet so anything can happen
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>>122405720
>acting like 5 stars don't exist.

Uh? He literally said '1% chance of rolling a 5*' and you're the one counteradicting it.

Are you incapable of reading or are you just >pretending to be retarded?
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>>122405737
you wouldn't happen to know about any links to it, would you
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>>122405854
read my post again before you accuse me of lacking reading comprehension retard
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>>122405854
Take the (You).
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What's the cheapest place to get a lily code nowadays?
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>>122405915
you're the one arguing about how someone claimed 4 stars don't exist when he literally just posted the numbers for 5 stars.

Whether 4 stars are gold or not are irrelevant when the number was about 5 stars, you retarded chipmunk.
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>>122405359
Guaranteed for ban.
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>>122406015
back in time

>>122406029
just stop posting, you're just telling the world how retarded you are
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>>122403120
Is this whale?
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>>122406259
reroll
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>>122406259
No
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>>122406259
is this whale?
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>tfw 3 5 stars, f2p, no refunds
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I can get a lily code for 4 bucks, worth it?
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>>122406259
Other than Gil you have pretty bad servants, so no.
Everyone knows whales only get good servant rolls.
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>>122406451
If lily is your waifu then yes.
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>>122406451
4 bucks for 8 quartz is worth it
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>>122406451
It would be a steal anon.
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>>122406451
Yeah, the average sale in Japan is $20.
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>>122406421
Same here, in addition to having 220 quartz saved up.

No point in gloating, though. I'm sure there's some faggot here who got 4 5 stars using only tickets.
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>>122406421
Same. I have 4, actually, but it was Tamamo 2 times, so it doesn't count I don't even use her
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Who's more worth it: d'Eon or Nero? I only have 3 sabers the other one being Lily.
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>>122406662
I can only roll gold cards. I haven't gotten a single silver card at all.
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>>122406532

I'm mainly considering it for the quartz, but is lily better than ceaser/gilles?
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>>122406736
Nero unless Eon is actually going to be tanking for someone
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>>122406736
Nero for arts team,D'Eon for anything else
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>>122406806
barely
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>>122406714
What the heck were you doing rolling that much during her event if you didn't even want her?
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>>122406736
d'Eon.
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>>122406773
All I want right now is plumes for Waver and 4 blue black keys so I can max them for Jeanne.
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>>122406907
because the prerequisite for having good luck is being retarded
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>>122405914
I don't know if it's in the panda but you could try searching by tags. The character on the right is Caren Hortensia I think and the one on the right one of the many Sakura clones.
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>>122397303
Enkidu, David, Solomon, Gilgamesh, Tiamat, and Semiramis.
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>>122407152
it's hakuno and BB
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>>122407239
Hakuno is pretty generic then.
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>>122407152

How did kirei's daughter end up becoming such a slut? This isn't what god would have wanted!
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>>122406907
I didn't know her stats and I kinda wanted her anyway, since she's cute. Also, I don't use her, because Waver is much better right now, back then he wasn't that great. Maybe I will use her later, who knows.
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>>122406496
There are no good Servants besides Gil and UNRIVALED anyways and I have UNRIVALED with Kaleido on my alt.
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>>122407339
>How did kirei's daughter end up becoming such a slut?
Well when your occupational designation is "Woman who fucks the evil out of demon possessed humans" it comes with the territory
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>>122397303
Drake, Jack, Atalanta
Also Attila, Brynhildr, Arjuna

I also want(need) an Arthur.
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>>122407328
That's their whole shtick anon. Being plain as fuck.
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>>122407439
>There are no good Servants besides Gil and UNRIVALED
When will this meme stop?
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>>122397303
I already got Jeanne during the harsh voyage of getting my dear Captain. So I'm more than half way there!

If I get Extra Vlad, I'll try him out but I will probably stick with Cu because he is so good.

Also I like Li Shuwen and Jack about equally so either one of em will do as well.
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>>122408198
>Meme
Mention good Servants then. Reminder that all the 5 Stars are weaker Gils and Lancelot is the only Berserker that can make use of Gil stars.
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>>122405253
>wanting to be banned
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Lvl 3 NP caster Cu or Medea?
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>>122408740
Oh, it's you O CAPTAIN, O MI CAPTAIN anon, mostly good taste, the only one of your favorites I dislike is Assassin Jack (I like the Berserker one), also, I don't believe Frankenstein Monster is going to be a 4*.
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>>122408942
>implying they will ban.
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>>122408942
>this meme again
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>>122409020
Yeah, I only updated it to include my Captain's art. I think Frankenstein is 50/50 chance of being a 3* or a 4*. Hell, after my Captain become a 5* I don't know what to expect anymore.

I'm about 70* sure Jack is going to be a 5* though, so that means both the Assassins I want will be 5*. This is going to be killer.
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>Just discovered that servants have a special line for reaching max level.
Does anyone know what Jeanne, Nero and Hassan say? i already have those three at max level
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>>122409019

RULE BREAKAH
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>Someone on twitter drew Enkidu in a cop uniform
It's official, he's going to be my Fate son.
>>122408740
You have excellent taste. It's also nice to see someone besides me anticipating Ranma, he's one of my favorite Indian heroes.
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>>122409213
>Jack is going to be a 5* though
She is not that popular, nor she is as strong.
Even with her female rarity up, I would be surprised for her to be more than 4*.
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>>122409463

We live in a world where the tutorial servant of a PSP game became a 5*. Anything's possible at this point.
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>mfw got my fouth 5 star servant and did not spend a cent in this game
>mfw (You)
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>>122409586
She was strong as fuck.
Almost every Extra servant antagonist is powerful in some way or another.
Just look at things like Gawain, Karna Nursery Rhyme or Arcueid. Jack is nowhere near that level of broken.
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>>122409771
>fourth
That's normal.
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>>122409436
Hell yeah, as soon as I saw Rama announced I was super hyped. I love his story of going through hell and defeated the king of demons to get his beloved back. I'm a sucker for those kind of stories. Also he is my main hunter in SMITE..

On top of the fact that he is being voiced by Sawashiro. Holy shit I don't know what to expect. Shota Rama? Genderbent Rama? Either way I'm pretty excited.

>>122409463
I dunno, I think DW won't pass up the chance to make one of the only lolis a 5*. There isn't a 5* loli yet and no 5* assassin either. I think the 5* assassin slots are going to belong to Li Shuwen, Jack, Semiramis, and King Hassan. That sounds good to me.

>>122409586
To be fair, my Captain is quite strong. Shinji is incompetent and whatnot. Materials and the manga says she is top tier, but then again, you can take that however way you want.
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>>122397303
UNRIVALED, Achilles (The Strongest), Vlad (Can handle Karna and Achilles by himself), Heracles (Stronger than Achilles), Saber Alter (Strongest Servant without dispute), Mashu (Can handle Alter by herself).
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>>122408740
You have good taste, capitanon.
I hope Rama turns out to be good.
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>>122394604
Still hoping to God we get Earthborn Orion as a 4 Star or something
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>>122409829

>jack is nowhere near that level of broken
>implying stars have anything to do with powerlevels

just look at minotaur,arash and blackbeard
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>>122409845
Jack isn't loli enough for the Japanese pedos.
They might make nursery rhyme 5* for that.
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>you can't spend QP to buff drake

why
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>>122402448
I have 100. Man I just wanted golden tickets but it seems we're trapped on this hell forever.
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>>122409978
At first I was thinking that Nursery Rhyme might not be 5* but as time goes on I do think that she will be 5*. But I'm still almost certain Jack will be 5*. About 70% sure.
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>>122409938
Every 5* has been a top tier servant.
It's just that not every top tier servant is 5*.
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>>122402448

The prism shop really should restock weekly, come on DW
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>>122400434
>>122400493
The chart is actually based on the shit they went through during the grail wars, not during their lives.
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>>122410378
>Kintoki
>Top tier anything
Maybe top tier author wank
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>>122409978
>loli
>pedos
What?
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>>122409938
>blackbeard
But he IS a weak Servant, his gimmick is
More people in his ship = More power
Just like Towel Archer, to defeat him, first you need to defeat his gimmick.
If you really want a Servant that fits your categories, go with Romulus.
The thing that pisses me of is that Bonney and Read are strong without this gimmick.
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>>122410378
Tamamo, Waver, and Kintoki would be trash in any war.
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So how long until London? Will I have enough time to gather gems to roll for Jack or should I save the ones I have? Thinking of doing a 40 roll to see if I get Drake.
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>>122409845
Jack is not loli enough. Euryale seems more like a loli than Jack and she is 3*.
If we talk about loli assassins, there is always that ninja that is gonna be designed by the Prisma author.
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>>122410604

Waver would be top tier if his master was someone like kerry,bazett or kuzuki and he buffed their attacks to be able to harm servants
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>>122409978
Watch as the Japs lose their shit because Nusery Rhyme isn't all WaifuWaifu with them and shit
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>>122410608
3-4 months

>>122410625
Euryale wasn't in Apocrypha. Nips love their Apocrypha shitchars. Also not even DW would release 3 5* Archers that early
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>>122410608
At the rate they're going, expect some filler events and the London will hit say...Feb?
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>>122410625
>there is always that ninja that is gonna be designed by the Prisma author
Who?
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>>122410608
February. I say go for a roll, 3 months is enough time to gather quartz.
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>>122410608

dude we got like 20 quartz to celebrate the okeanos launch just roll
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>>122410604
Tamamo has three tails.
Waver strength doesn't lie in raw power, but in his head.
Granted that Kintoki underwhelming, but he has a lot of plot armor.
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>>122410829
>Hiroyama Hiroshi: Mochizuki Chiyome
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>>122410608
IMO save it for the Christmas event. Most likely there will be some CE that will lower the grind for the event.
>>
We'll probably get some shitty rate up for some previous 5s. Like Vlad, or Waver as filler. Then the Xmas event, the London mid-Feb.
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>>122410829
Mochizuki Chiyome, leader of an all female ninja/spy/prostitute clan.
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>>122410945
>Mochizuki Chiyome
>a feudal Japanese noblewoman of the 16th century who created an all-female group of ninja agents in service of the Takeda clan.
mite b cool
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5* rider when?
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>>122410608
If you don't have at least 5 gold Servants to use in your party, I'd roll now.
If you're happy with your party, why not save for the servant you want the most? It could take you 2000 quartz.
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>>122411104
Drake
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>>122411104
What is Drake?
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>>122411052
>Hiroyama Hiroshi which means she will most likely be a loli
>prostitute

My dick is ready
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>>122411249
Don't we already know what she looks like in nasuverse?
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>>122411081
Its gonna be a Loli who is Slutty as fuck. That's the only thing Hiroyama is good at after all
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>Full of memes and overused jokes over and over
>Talking about reddit shit nobody cares about
>Waifushit and Berserker wars still on going
>I have 5129389 gold servants and I haven't spent shit, am I lucky yet?!!?
>Gays I have an obvious as hell choice about my gems/party but mamma isn't here and I can't think by myself WHAT TO DO?!!!?

Weren't these threads supposed to get better after Okeanos?
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>>122410608
I we assume DW is competent and just got delayed by updating the game, hopefully January.

If we look at reality, probably March.
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>>122411362
Only reddit shit believed that
I guess that makes you reddit shit
Should I tell you to fuck off now?
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>>122411326
Miyu is a pure maiden and best Prisma.
The other two are the slutty ones.
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>>122411362
>4chan will become better after X containment board is added
KEK
E
K
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>>122404761
>not wanting to play with his nipples while he holds you up and fucks you against a wall
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>>122411362
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>>122411518
WELL she sure as hell get wet as fuck anytime NiggaIlya does anything lewd and doesn't fight back at all
Slut likes being passed around and you know it
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>>122411559
So, is he officially the guy with the largest penis in the Fate/ franchise?
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I DID IT
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F2P Masterrace
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>>122410539
You didn't know?
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>>122411559
We don't know if Asterios Bullparts are only his Horns after all
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>>122411808
That'd be Darius.
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>>122411808
Darius and Heracles probably.
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>>122411832
Congrats, anon.
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>>122411362
there is literally nothing to talk about but off-topic stuff because this is a mobile game literally designed to be played while taking a shit
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>>122411808

that title belongs to astolfio
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>>122411808
Not officially.
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>>122411808
Lancelot has the UNRIVALED penis though, and it even got ranked up to D rank NP everytime he put his hands on it.
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>>122411873
>sanson

THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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>>122411832
Can you post one of this but with Asterios? I want to make that expression a reaction image.

>>122412185
Who has it officially.
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First for best girl.
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>>122412290
Saber, like five feet long
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>>122412347
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>>122412290
>Who has it officially
Arturia probably
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>>122412068
He said largest anon.
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>>122412290
You mean this?
You can find them in the op.
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>>122412575
Yes, thanks.
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Maki-chan servant when?
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>feel that my meatshields don't tank enough hit during ORLEAN
>Start doing dailies
All that XP shieet
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Nobu when?
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>>122412347
Best girl
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>>122412719
Who cares about Makidere, Saigusa is the best.
plain is a best,
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>>122412838
>tfw we will never see Gil getting BTFO by Nobunaga.
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>>122412838
Literally 'NIPPON STRONK' the Servant. It's what Nasu tried to avoid while writing F/sn.
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>>122412903
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>>122413016

Could she handle gilgamesh by herself?
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>>122385395
What is this
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>>122413029
It's also said Servant Xian would be too strong in the 4th war, making him much stronger than Chtulu, Iskander, Gil, UNRIVALED and Arturia. I don't want to imagine what kind of monster that would be.
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>>122413029
Aren't her stats that we have her w/ fame boost? She could be a lot weaker otherwise.
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>>122413029
She has plenty of weakness, and she'd still below Gil and Karna-tier even at max output according to magazine summaries.
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>>122413264
Her shtick is literally 'fuck people with divinity'
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>>122412838
Majin Saber when
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>>122411326
>miko ninja loli semen demon
Dear god, this can't happen soon enough.
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>>122409436
Cop servants you say?
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>>122413446
Taimanin has Lolis?

Well Yukikaze is pratically the closest thing to a loli there So we get Yukikaze Fate Version as Chiyome
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>>122412896
You called?
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>>122413669
I'm sure the browser game has a loli or two
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>>122413029
She is strong as hell against old heroic spirits but weak against young ones. Nothing wrong with that.
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>>122413806
I will laugh so fucking much if the nips go

'Taimanin on Fate?'
'Yup Taimanin Taimanin!'

It would be a riot since Nasu is trying to avoid his porn days like the plague
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>>122412838
>Literally Japan-wank the servant
>Shits on everyone who has "mystery" as part of their legend (So 90% of heroic spirits) for free no matter how powerful you are otherwise
>Even if you are a heroic spirit without mystery she still has ridiculously high stats you need to deal with for no reason

Strength: B Mana: A
Endurance: B Luck: A-
Agility: B N. Phantasm: E~EX

Why the fuck is this allowed?
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>>122413067
I have the same taste as Gil. he might not be so bad after all.
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>>122413948
>Even if you are a heroic spirit without mystery she still has ridiculously high stats you need to deal with for no reason
>no reason
One of the most famous Japanese Servant summoned in Japan, mate.
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>>122413168
Unless he used EA, probably. She is a counter to anything with divinity or a high mystery attribute.
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>>122413948
She is still weaker than Gil and Karna
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>>122413948
Nobunaga's Fate is insanely shit and she faced consequences for everything she did. Why the fuck is her Luck so High?
Mana STR AGI END might make sense if she is a Mixed Blood like Kouma or Innocent Monster in effect
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>>122413419
Apparently her gimmick can only get her as far as giving her a way to kill them, but it'd still be a pretty even match. Gil still has a huge variety of weapons to choose from and Karna is hard as hell to kill, not to mention he has a nuke.
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>>122413902
Would Emiya have a chance against her, then?
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>>122405210
Karna, Extra Vlad, and Enkidu were quite happy even when they went through some real shit.

Karna had a gaping hole through his chest for half of CCC, but he felt it wasn't so bad.
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>>122414090
Gil and Karna can fight her despite all the buffs, doesn't mean they are stronger.
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>>122414053
>Has stats that are almost on par with the most famous hero in existence summoned as a Berserker
>Not just being Nip-wank
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>>122414165
The thing about Karna is that he is basically positive thinking incarnate, it's nearly impossible to get him down.
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>>122410936
>Affection of the author: EX
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>>122413948
>Lancelot has no divinity
>With Arondight he loses pretty much all the mystery FSG could grant him
>Without Arondight he can use modern weapons as NP which means they fuck her shit up
UNRIVALED > Nobunaga.
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>>122414165
>Enkidu
>happy
Even when he was with Gil he was constantly doubting his worth and being absolutely self-loathing. In Extra CCC his memories cut-off with him asking a bunch of worried questions in regards to Gil because he's under the impression that's he's fucked up Gil for all eternity.
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>>122414164
Probably."Three Thousand Worlds" would do minimal damage to him (and it could be countered easily with UBW) and "Demon King of the Sixth Heaven" (her Reality Marble) would just be a little hot for him instead of a burning inferno.
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>>122414257
Take a look at Apocrypha's Vlad, it's pretty much the same thing.
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>>122414364
That doesn't mean he didn't enjoy his life. He's just self-conscious of being a literal tool. He's at 120% happiness in strange fake. We'll see what happens if he goes all Berserker for some reason.
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>>122414351
Lancelot has a ton of mystery just from being in the Arthurian mythos, he would get just as fucked up. It doesn't matter if he uses Arondight or not, his entire existence as someone who might not have even historically existed would be enough to trigger Nobunaga. I don't think people understand how stupidly bullshit her discernment of what qualfies as "mystery" is.
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>>122413948
Her rival is Okita Sougo for a reason

Okita has no real mystery or divinity, is just a swordsman that isn't too old in terms of age, etc.

People like Okita, Li Shuwen, EMIYA, Robin Hood, or maybe Andersen kind of shit all over Nonobunga.

Nonobunga is sort of a one trick pony; she's super effective against certain types, and can't effect other types too much to the point of it being called "Annoying" moreso.

Even her 3000 rifle attack isn't too dangerous if you don't have high mystery or divinity. Might be weak in close range as well unless she's in demon mode. She's more of a commander rather than fighter. She's good at fighting people from a range.

A compatibility type servant.
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>>122414525
What's wrong with Vlad? Dracula is one of the most famous characters of all time.
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>>122414660
Mata Hari > Nobunaga
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>>122414728
I meant that he got a tremendous stat boost for being summoned in his own country. But is that Romaniawank? No.
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>>122414351
Just being from Arthurian mythos alone would fuck him up.
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>>122414660
Even against servants without divinity or mystery her 3000 rifle attack can still win. She's just a wank servant who has an absolute advantage over 90% of servants and then can still fight on par with the remaining 10%, worse than UNRIVALED and Gilgamesh doing the fusion dance.
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>>122414302
Karna himself says that Gatou's reckless happiness and ability to move forward is something beyond Karna's understanding.

Karna is mainly just "All accepting" as a personality, which is why he doesn't get down too much.

Rather than being Mr.Happy or Mr.Positive, its mainly just that he sees everything as equal, or sees everything as "Yeah, that happened". Even with Jinako's lifestyle, he comments there's nothing especially wrong with it.
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>>122414571
>We'll see what happens if he goes all Berserker for some reason.
Geez, that will be when? Vol. 6? Narita needs to hurry up with that next volume so we can start getting into the juicier bits of the story.
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No QP, no hearts, no pages.

Tamamo lvl80 forever.
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>>122413806
>loli kunoichi
Indeed it does.
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>>122414857
Still without being in his area, he got Legend of Dracula, which makes him as strong as if he was in Romania without needing to be there.
The thing is that Nobunaga was created by the Japanese.
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>>122414973
How do you have no pages, just do Blackbeard interlude
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>>122414973
Try Blackbeards interlude. That'll at most give you 7
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>>122414351
He was raised by faeries, in an age of great mythos and mystery, and has a super powerful blade of blah blah blah and has this legend and spiritual blah blah

He has high enough mystery.

He's no Andersen or EMIYA in terms of "Nah, that's not really divine mystery or anything, that's normal".

If you have dragon element anything or you were born as the super special this thing, Nonobunga has an advantage.

If you weren't born as super special anything and you're just a servant due to your own feats, and not because anything was handed to you, then likely you have the advantage.
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>>122415079
I wish I had him.
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>>122414990
I was enjoying myself until I noticed the breasts. What the heck man
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>>122414887
Does he enjoy anything aside from fighting? I think dancing with Siegfried was the happiest he's been.
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>>122414887
Pretty much that.
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>>122415189
FP roll till you get him.
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>>122414990
That thing is not even close to being a loli.
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>>122415189
Just roll the FP gacha, he's easy as fuck to get.
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Who is objectively the strongest servant of each class and the strongest servant overall? No fanwank please, only facts.
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>>122415196
They are really small and in a skintight suit, how else they are supposed to look.
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>>122415210
He enjoys being with Jinako

They consider themselves like sister and brother basically.
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>>122415270
>>122415303
I wish I had friends.

;_;
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>>122415136
>at most
I got 4 from the first part and 6 from the second part. Or maybe it was 3 and 7. I got 10 total anyway.
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>>122415327
end yourself
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>>122415196
Yeah, practically a couple of pears.
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>>122414779
Drake > Nobunaga

Actually not really, it's pretty much a 50/50 in her case.
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>>122415351
You could start by adding a bunch of people from the spreadsheet. Do you think people just started with 50/50 friends?
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>>122415337
A lot less pointy.
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>>122415327
Saber Gilles
Euryale
Benkei
Boudica
Andersen
Mata Hari
Caligula
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>>122415327
Gilgamesh for every class

Gilgamesh for strongest
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>>122415440
Drake is screwed because of the shit with Elizabeth
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>>122415390
it's 4 and 6 and they're guaranteed drops
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>>122415327
>Saber: you
>Lancer: you
>Archer: you
>Caster: you
>Assassin: you
>Rider: you
>Berserker: you
>Ruler: you
>Avenger: you
>Shielder: you

wow anon congratuations you're the stronngestg
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>>122415351
>he doesn't have 200k+ FP saved up from people using his servants

baka desu senpai
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>>122415275
Okay.
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>>122414598
>Lancelot has a ton of mystery just from being in the Arthurian mythos
Citation

>I don't think people understand how stupidly bullshit her discernment of what qualfies as "mystery" is.
And you do? Doesn't seem like you do. Her shit doesn't work against heroes that became heroes without achieving, learning, or obtaining mysterious or supernatural powers. Lancelot was known for being UNRIVALED in terms of skill but there is literally nothing supernatural about him besides Arondight, and MAYBE FSG in terms of mysterious because of how it hides his identity, although that doesn't seem to be what it takes into account when it gauges mystery.
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>>122415517
Are Blackbeard and Tamamo the only interludes with guaranteed rare drops?
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>>122415506
It's less the Elizabeth thing and more the Wild Hunt and Avalon thing, I feel.
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>>122415519
That's fucking bullshit man, Mashu is the strongest Shielder.
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>>122415341
Aw, that's cute.
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>>122415649
What if that anon was Mashu?
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>>122415608
Orion, she gives out Snake Gems.
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>>122415608
Orion has like seven snake jewels.
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>>122415327
Seibah: ???
Archer: Gilgamesh
Lancer: ???
Rider: ???
Caster: Solomon
Assassin: ???
That's all I know.
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>>122415327
all me
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>>122415597
That's a fucking dangerous pose to sit in while wearing those shoes with blades attached.
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>>122415804
She's a ninja, she'd be fine.
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>>122415447
Do you really get that many friend uses from having a lot of friends?

I always use the same guy for everything as long as he's available.
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>>122415804
Its okay. They are actually facing to the sides.

Not to mention that everyone in Taimanin universe, who has superpowers, is a descendant of a demon/human pair.
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>>122415506
The thing with Elizabeth doesn't actually give them high mystery.

Mystery =/= being mysterious

Mystery = more like, "I have a dragons core in my chest, as dragons are beings of high mystery and fantasy".

Mystery is more about having something super special, but not something super special you naturally obtained or created. Mystery is like a shounen protaganists super special ultra power that's better than all other powers perhaps.

Its more about stuff like "I was given this sword by the great lady of the lake of whom I am..." , "I have super special eyes that were taken from a dragon-gorgon, and crafted by elves", or "I was granted divinity by the great divine spirits of ancient..."

Mystery = High concept

You could say

Assassin's Tsubeme Gaeshi couldn't be called high mystery, its just something he obtained himself, its just a technique he developed.

Mystery = Legend, perhaps?
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>>122415181
>If you weren't born as super special anything and you're just a servant due to your own feats, and not because anything was handed to you, then likely you have the advantage.
EAM is him being unrivaled. KoH was obtained because of his skill. FSG was obtained because of him constantly hiding. Arondight was granted to him because he was UNRIVALED.

The only supernatural things about him are Arondight (granted to him for being unrivaled to begin with) and PoF (Raised by fairies because parents ded).
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>>122415327
Saber Arthuria
Lancer Karna
Archer Gilgamesh
Rider Achilles
Berserker Enkidu
Assassin Mata Hari
Ruler Amakusa
Avenger Angra Mainyu
Shielder Mashu or Galahad
Alter-Ego Kingprotea
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>>122415327
Its impossible to really say,any one who says a servant is the strongest is a jetsfag.
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>>122415597
>tfw noone uploads the sex scenes
True suffering
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Would Hitler be the perfect counter against Oda since he has no mystery?
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>>122416061
>raised by faeries
>Protected by faeries
>Arondight the super super legendarly fuckhouse blade of shit I was given as a child by faeries
>I was granted super ultimate strength because blah blah faeries
>FAERIES
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>>122416153
He has the legend of the spear of destiny working against him. Hitler oddly enough has a lot of legends surrounding him.

Okita, Sasaki, Li Shuwen, EMIYA, or otherwise already work as counters.
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>>122415979
Anyone has the newest version of the viewer?
Shit is hard has hell to find
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>>122416046
In that case how about what >>122415613
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>>122416146
Competing with jps and chinese that not only use scripting to farm, but also spend a lot of money for gacha is kinda hard.

But I hope somebody buys the materials book to scan it
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>>122416315
Also Tesla
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>>122415978
The more friends you have the higher the chance that someone uses you. I generally rotate between like 10 people depending on who's available. The chances of you appearing in the rotation of these people is simply higher if you have more friends. And even if there's someone only ever using you specifically then you still get more FP if there's two or more people doing it rather than one.
Sometimes I get a few hundred, today I got 3000 for example because someone went on a spree.

How would having more friends reduce the amount of FP you get anyway? So I don't see why you wouldn't want more
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>>122416315
Sasaki doesn't work because he never existed, he's one of the hardest countered by her shit

Nobunaga is literally a servant written by a 5 year old. She counters 90% of heroic spirits and then still has a fighting chance against the other 10%
>>
>True name: Oda Nobunaga
>Gender: Female
>Height/Weight: 152cm/39kg
>Alignment: Lawful Neutral

Strength: B
Endurance: B
Agility: B
Magic: A
Luck: A-
Noble Phantasm: E~EX

>Class Skills
■ Magic Resistance: B
Nullifies all magic that requires less than three verses. It is difficult to hurt her even using great magic or ritual magic.

>■ Independent Action: B
Ability that allows independent movement even after the Master's magical energy supply is cut off. With Rank B, it is possible for a Servant to stay in this world for two days after losing its Master.

>Personal Skills
■ Military Tactics: B

>■ Charisma: B-

>■ Demon King: A
A monster whose perception in life later twisted what she had actually been in the past.
Abilities and appearance have been distorted. In Archer’s case, she can choose to activate or deactivate it at her own choosing because it’s something that she in life had called herself. She’s able to receive its benefits without any demerits. In other words, she can go from being a loli to being racked. It’s a skill similar to but dissimilar to Innocent Monster.

>■ Tenka Fubu - Innovation: A
Innovation, a special skill granted to heroes who brought about a revolution in an era.
The wording "Tenka Fubu" is added to Archer's version of this. A conceptual revolution of subjecting the old with the new.
It grants modifiers leaning more in one's favor the higher the opponent's rank in Divinity or Mystery or the more that opponent is a Heroic Spirit who is a guardian of the establishment.
Thanks to it, Archer boasts an absolute advantage over Heroic Spirits and Noble Phantasms with Divinity and Mystery. It's the ultimate game of compatability. However, it has no power over Heroic Spirits of the modern era with little Mystery. And not only that, but the effects of his other skills and Noble Phantasms drop.

>>122416469
Sasaki does count, don't whine and keep saying 90% just because you don't understand things.

You could name several dozen servants that work.
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>>122416437
Makes it harder to search through everyone for that one guy I actually use.
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>>122416469
But he did exist. Just wasn't Kojirou.
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>>122416571
>Noble Phantasms
>■ Three Thousand Worlds (three line formation)
>Rank: E~EX
>Type: Anti-Army Noble Phantasm
>Range: 1~99
>Maximum number of targets: 3000 Person
>Three thousand matchlocks are deployed and fired at once.
>Because of the all too famous anecdote of Nobunaga defeating the most powerful cavalry in the age of warring states, their attack power increases against Heroic Spirits with the Riding skill.
>If used on the Rider of the Fifth War for example, her unique skill "Innovation" would also be factored in, making for a [Quiz Derby catchphrase] crazy effect.
>They are usually mere matchlocks against heroic spirits with low divinity and mystery, but 3000 guns are still annoying.

Against a low divinity or mystery servant, this is an E rank phantasm that's described as simply "Annoying" rather than anything much.

Against Gilgamesh it would be EX

Against Arthur it would probably be A+
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>>122416595
Come on man, just add a lot of useful people and you'll have no problems.
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>>122416201
But he wasn't granted Arondight as a child. He wasn't granted ultimate strength because of fairies either. He was literally just some guy born "completely overpowered" for no reason, his parents died and he had to be raised by fairies, and he happened to become unrivaled during his era in terms of martial arts, then, because of that, he was given Arondight.

What's the mystery behind that again? The fact that he was raised by fairies?
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>■ Papiyas, the Demon King of the Sixth Heaven
>Rank: E~EX
>Type: Anti-Divine Noble Phantasm
>Range: -
>Maximum number of targets: -
>The true noble phantasm of the demon king Nobunaga, destroyer of Shinto and Buddhism.
>A reality marble transforming him into a being holding absolute power against those with Divinity and Mystery.
>Visually, it seems she becomes naked, hurray!

>It's a Noble Phantasm based on the burning of Mount Hiei and the other brutal deeds she had performed when she was alive.
>The accumulation of the fear and reverence that the people held for Nobunaga after death materializes a scorching hell.
>It's difficult for those with high divinity to even continue existing in its space.
>On the other hand, it's just a tad hot to those Heroic Spirits with low divinity.

Against a hero with no divinity or low divinity, this can't even be called an attack.

People bitch and bitch and bitch about "Ohhh, soo overpowered, a five year old created this".

It really is nothing more than the ultimate game of compatibility.
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>>122416571
Sasaki literally didn't exist as a real person, how is that not mystery? Anyone from mythology, old legends, religion, etc. is fucked against Nobunaga.

>>122416671
It doesn't matter because he's in the container of "Kojiro". It's the same reason why he'd be fucked if he fought against Musashi just like Hector is fucked if he fights again against Achilles.
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>>122416595
There's a sorting function in the game. I can't imagine a combo that would absolutely require one specific servant with a specific CE and nothing else would ever work. Most of the time I just sort with highest level first and pick one of the available servants that does the job. Doesn't matter whether I use that dudes level 80 gil or the other dudes level 80 gil. Or that level 80 vlad who also clears just fine if not better
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>>122415327
Archer: Gilgamesh
Rider: Ozzy (or pestilence)
Lancer: Enkidu
Saber: Arturia
Berserker: ?
Assassin: Zealot
Caster: Solomon
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>>122416840
>, how is that not mystery?

You don't understand what mystery means in this context at all

Koujirou, a ghost randomly plucked from the area around the temple and shoved into a servant container, isn't super high concept or special anything. Being an oddity doesn't immediately make you special in this sense.

High mystery are things like Arthuria
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>>122416571
So basically, just send Hassan to and things should work themselves out.
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>>122416796
Not him, but just think of the fact that he was added to the arthurian mith by the french.
We can't know if he really existed, so there's the mystery.
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>>122411873
Someday I'll match up to you, someday.
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>>122416571
>In other words, she can go from being a loli to being racked.
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>>122415776
Saber:Lancelot
Berserker:Lancelot
Glad I could help.
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>>122416984
Hassan would already have died because Assassin is never allowed to be relevant in a Grail War.
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>>122392737
>>122392846
>>122393032
>>122393169
>>122393435
>>122393264
>>122393849
ORION IS THE BEAR YOU IDIOTS
THE GIRL IS ARTEMIS
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>>122416984
Don't send a Hassan with a super special type of Zambiya, or an especially well known Hassan.

She can still fight back if she sees it coming probably, but if the hassan is worth their shit at all, she won't.

Then again, Hassan is known for fucking things up.
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>>122416864

You mean Persues for Rider right?
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>>122417131
We know. Calm down sperglord.
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>>122417131
What makes you think anon wasn't talking about the bear and hates his voice?
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>>122417009
>We can't know if he really existed
Like almost all the heros on the roster.
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>>122417228
Because they kept saying "she" and "her".
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>>122417176
It depends. What does he bring to the table?

Regardless, I feel I should have put Pestilence as my sure choice since it can't really be "killed"
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>>122417131
But I did mean the bear
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French ruin everything,
See Astolfo.
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>>122417437
terrorist detected
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>>122417269
And that's why we're saying that Nobu is a hard counter for most servants. Lancelot being one of them doesn't really cast him on a bad light, it's just normal.
Nobu's just broken.
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>>122417437
That was the nips ruining something French.
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Charlemagne as ruler when?
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>>122417131
No, the girl is Orion and the bear is Oliver.They say this loud and clear when you summon then.
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>>122417358
Is the evil cat a voyeurist?
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>>122417506
This.
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>>122415327
>Saber: Heracles
>Archer: Heracles
>Lancer: Heracles
>Rider: Heracles
>Caster: Solomon
>Assassin: Heracles (somehow?)
>Berserker: not Lancelot fuck off
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>>122417009
He did exist in Nasuverse though. If we go by that logic then EMIYA is a mystery because he was created by Nasu.
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>>122417542
Maybe
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>>122417551
whew lad I was not prepared for all those expressions
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>>122417540
What the fuck no?

Learn to read Japanese.
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so evil
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>>122417506
The other 11 paladins when, preferably men (NO SISSIES ALLOWED)
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>>122417590
Every single one of Archer's abilities could be explain under modern thaumaturgy at the time he became a hero. He had no mystery to him
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>>122417668
the evilest
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So can we all agree that Solomon is probably the strongest Caster by far?
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>>122417609
>Saber would probably like Atalanta because lions.
>Nero wants to tap her too.
Maybe the Saberface syndrome makes you pursue cats or something.
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>>122417737
Why do Okita and Nobunaga strip when they are defeated? H-Scenes when?
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>>122417590
Doesn't being a CG makes him something different?
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>>122417865
All characters drawn in Koha style lose their clothes when they lose.

Because Koha characters are always drawn without clothes.
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>>122417740
The mystery is that he was created by Nasu, therefore doesn't exist. Following the logic of the post I replied to.
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>>122417865
A reference to Koha Ace probably.
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>>122417865
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>>122417910
Its nothing that has high mystery

In fact its kind of the opposite, they are CGs rather than proper heroes because they didn't have high mystery at all.
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>>122418038
DELETE THIS
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>>122417356

Kibisis naturally
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Kiyohime is olev
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>>122397530
>Manaka can stop her spear with a single finger.
I hate that kid so much.
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Was looking at the leaked servant list.
What the fuck are these?
Jaggerman (Taiga)
Emiya Alter
Kid Gilgamesh
Ishtar (Rin)
Parvarti (Sakura)
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>>122417176
He has about 5 or so NPs and average stats. And he can only use each NP one at a time. Perseus is in no way even close to the upper tier of Riders.
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When
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>>122418254
>Jaggerman (Taiga)
Pseudo Servant
>Emiya Alter
Already existed
>Kid Gilgamesh
Already existed
>Ishtar (Rin)
Pseudo Servant, like Waver. Cannot be summoned naturally, so it had to inhabit a similar person to herself.
>Parvarti (Sakura)
Pseudo Servant, like Waver. Cannot be summoned naturally, so it had to inhabit a similar person to herself.

Pseudo servants aren't demi servants.

Pseudo servants need to find an appropriate vessel.
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>>122415327
Saber: Attila
Lancer: Enkidu
Archer: True Archer
Caster: Solomon
Assassin: Zealot
Rider: Disease
Berserker: UNRIVALED
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>>122417356
>What does he bring to the table?

meh/10 stats, and six equally mediocre NPs (beside Bellerophon and maybe Kibisis) that were given to him to counter a big snake, and yet he still managed to have difficulties winning. But still a solid mid-tier Rider.

He also has a really cool mask.
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>>122416712
>Gygax caster
>Tomb of Horror reality marble
How fucked is your favorite servant
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>>122415327
Don't mind me, guy who actually knows what he's talking about coming through.

>Saber: King Arthur (prototype)
>Archer: Heracles
>Lancer: Karna
>Rider: Ozymandius
>Caster: Merlin or Parvati.
>Assassin: King Hassan or Semiramis. Potentially Cain.
>Berserker: If >Moon Cell counts, then Arceuid. If not, Heracles or Enkidu. Potentially Cain.
>Ruler: Jeanne d'Arc.
>Avenger: Angra Mainyu
>Shielder: Galahad.
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>>122418254
>Jaggerman
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If I obtained the Holy Grail, my wish would be that this game got enough content to keep people too occupied to have powerlevel discussions.
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>>122418628
Fuck off fujo
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>>122418628
>This list
>Sakura picture just to bait further
Fuck off
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>>122418628
You clearly know nothing.
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>>122418628
Mooncell always counts, it has to count, literally

There's an entire data entry where Nasu says that Mooncell and Throne entirely line up with each other.

Anything real within the Mooncell is the way it is in the Throne.
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>>122418648
Taiga confirmed for #1 servant.
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>>122418628
>Don't mind me, guy who actually knows what he's talking about coming through.
>Lancer: Karna
>Caster: Parvati.
>Assassin: King Hassan or Semiramis. Potentially Cain.
This is some weak bait.
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>>122418628
>guy who actually knows what he's talking about coming through.
>Archer: Heracles
>Berserker: Heracles
>Assassin: King Hassan
>Lancer: Karna
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>>122418680
If I got the Holy Grail I would wish for money, immortality, and bitches.
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>>122418784
I don't know if I want this.
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>>122418680
>Every time someone starts a power level conversation, suddenly a new servant is released or the game gets five new missions.

Before the end of the week the game is longer than any novel to ever exist. Pretty soon downloading it at all will cause your phone to die automatically, from sheer size.

Only the Mooncell will be able to run this thing by week five.
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>>122418628
I think your right about Saber and Rider. From what we've seen through the series though the others are fairly debatable. Besides the filler classes of course.
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>>122417651
>女「はーい! アルテミs……じゃなかった。オリオンでーす!」
>熊「ペットとかぬいぐるみとかのオリべえでーす。よーろーしーくー」
You cant fool me anon.
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>>122418691
>>122418735
>>122418748
>>122418832
>>122418834
>this autism because I didn't list your favourite servant

Probably a bunch of Enkidu and Gilgameshfags ww.
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>>122417823
We know nothing about Solomon as a servant. I doubt he brings his demons into play as his NP, but he will probably be the strongest Caster because of his title.

Funnily, the strongest Caster as of now is still Nursery Rhyme.
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>>122418254
>Kid Gil
Only the dead will know peace
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>>122418874
You'd get tired of those things before long.
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>>122418874
its not a genie lamp
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>>122416571
tfw you know she is probably stronger than Napoléon.
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>>122419004
That's what I thought about 4chan 8 years ago
>>
>Try out Drake for the first time
>Use quick attack once
>The enemy starts shitting crit stars everywhere

Kinda wish she had a QQABB set
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>>122418972
Tamamo is stronger
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>>122418972
Is that only really because of the compatibility with Alice? With her being a ghost and all there is no strain on her body.
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>>122418970
Once again, weak bait.
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>>122418970
Even if you are anti Gil, there are better options

Lancer Vlad who is said to be able to easily deal with Karna with LoD
Berserker Lancelot and Zealot Hassan are objectively the best of their classes.
Archer David or True Archer instead of Herkek.
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>>122418970
Fuck off fujo.
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>>122418874
>Not wanting to reach the root
Get a load of this faggot
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>>122418937
>>女「はーい! アルテミs……じゃなかった。オリオンでーす!」
She's trying to hide her identity but she's a dits who forgets that she's supposed to be hiding it, idiot.

>Archer's identity is originally portrayed by her as being Orion (オリオン, ?) in her profile, written in first person by Archer, while saying that she doesn't know the origin of the "weird voice" that can sometimes be heard around her. She is later revealed to be Artemis (アルテミス, Arutemisu?) the moon goddess and goddess of the hunt of Greek mythology, and that the voice is the actual Orion in the form of a small bear
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>>122419069
Fine. I wish for the Holy Grail to be my personal genie lamp.
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>>122418749
Not for Arc though. She just popped in with Gatou from the Himalaya mountains.
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>>122419276
The fuck am I supposed to do with some moldy old root? I'm not a botanist.
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>>122419004
>bored of Immortality
I can see that happening

>bored of bitches
Maybe after a few centuries

>bored of money
You lost me
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>>122419175
That was brought when she overwrites the arena protected by the Mooncell with her RM.
Presumably, it would be just normal strain if she just used it at battle.
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>>122419436
Fuck off David
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>>122419175
Alice still feels tremendous strain on her soul

But since she has no physical body, its like having your limiters taken off a bit. You can overclock your soul directly to feed your servant more power in some ways.

If you were linked to a body, your body would burn out faster or it would stop your soul from burning itself out by putting some limits on this.

Since she's just a soul, it means she can burn herself out entirely without the stoppers being turned on.

However that only comes up when she rewrites an entire level of the arena. Manifesting a reality marble within more normal limits wouldn't really hurt you.

She also wasn't a magus in life really, which is why she needed to be able to overclock herself to be a threat.
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>>122419284
>A god summoned as a servant,
Right, what next Berserker ORT
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>>122419276
It's time to stop posting, Toki. You're dead.
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>>122419632
In Artemis' case, she's nerfed down to Orion's level. Otherwise, why she can exist is still a mystery.
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>>122419632
ORT is peak Lancelot mount though, but I guess he can still be a Servant if Bucephalus was one.
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Are people seriously speculating Arcueid being the NPC of London? And her being released in FGO because of the moon cell? That shit's so out of the blue I don't see it
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>>122419139
How does she overcome the Jabberwock, the immortal card army, the slowly elimination of his master existence or the world reset?
Without Rin or Rani help of course.
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>>122419676
All the cool people in Fate are already dead though.
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>>122419264
>Lancer Vlad who is said to be able to easily deal with Karna with LoD
And then is easily disposed of by Amakusa. When Lancer Vlad goes into LoD state, he's not fighting them for victory, he's fighting them merely to get past them and reach the grail. Also that can hardly be called Vlad since he fused with Darnic and the text admits he's a new entity now that's neither Vlad nor Darnic, but a vampire in his own right, not truly a servant or a human but a weird mix.
>Berserker Lancelot and Zealot Hassan are objectively the best of their classes.
>Berserker Lancelot
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Semiramis is definitely more powerful than Zealot Hassan, and King Hassan, I'm assuming, is the most powerful of the Hassans as their leader, but that may prove wrong once he's released.

>Archer David or True Archer instead of Herkek.
Nasu has confirmed that Heracles most powerful class is Archer and he is the most renowned Hero ever. David definitely hasn't got anything on him. True Archer is still an enigma so you can't possibly make that claim, but he's only been noted as being "quite strong" by Lancer, not insanely powerful as other Archers are.

So I was wrong, I guess you're a Strange/Fake fag :^)
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>>122419632
She wasn't summoned. She forced herself during the summon because muh husbando.
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>>122419783
>a series about wizards summoning dead people
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>>122419276

Would he have reached the root if not for kotomine's betrayal?
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>>122419632
Less that and more Artemis sorta hijacking but using Orion's Stats Skills and Noble Phantasm if anything
Look at how Stheno and Euryale have EX Luck and Mana and are full Godesses, while Orion/Artemis have only Mana A and Luck A+
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>>122419783
The coolest ones don't care.
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>>122419528
>David getting bored of bitches.
Kek
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>>122419632
Orion is the servant, Artemis is just coming along.

Also why are you acting like Gods being servants is something new?

>Heracles
>Tamamo-no-Mae
>Stheno
>Euryale
>>
A Command Seal appeared in your hand, you have been selected to join the Holy Grail War, you have 24 hours to get a calasty, who do you summon?
No, summoning a Servant with personality doens't count.
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>>122419765
She's just one of the few from Extra who match the six character limit of the censored name. Nobody actually thinks it will happen outside of Nasu being totally nuts with overseeing the scenario.
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>>122419881
He'd sooner be bored with women than riches
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>>122419850
Damn, Fate sounds a lot less romantic when you put it that way.
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>>122419765
99% sure she's not, she's not even listed in any of the data files, while much more ridiculous characters are
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>>122419676
>>122419865
This isn't about Tokiomi, secondaries.

This is about magi in general. Almost every magus wants to reach the Root one way or another.

Souren did nothing wrong.
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>>122419264
>Vlad is better than karna
Not this shit again
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>>122419276
Go to sleep, Doc.
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Orion and Artemis Stats
Strength: D Mana: A
Endurance: C Luck: A+
Agility: B N. Phantasm: A+

So yeah its Artemis with Orion stats, Tri-Star Amore Mio is probably something like Phoebus Catastrophe -A Prayer/Blessing that can be brought foward without much hassle-
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>>122419962

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Audie-Murphy-Autographed-Signed-Signature-Original-8x10-Photo-/400875578898?hash=item5d560be612:g:1TUAAOSwv0tU9LkI
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>>122419962
Semen of old men and money
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>>122419769
Getting rid of the master directly is always an option. She can summon a million troops from her tails as well apparently, or call on her other eight selves any time she wants.

She just doesn't typically do it since it might end up becoming a bigger problem than the thing she was trying to deal with initially, since she doesn't really get along with her selves all the time.

Witchcraft[EX] means her spells are born from within her rather than other magus way of doing magic, which apparently this makes them special somehow. Supposedly this is special in a good way.

There are always options; she's also pretty good in CQC.
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>>122419962
Vietnamese King Arthur
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%AA_L%E1%BB%A3i
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>>122419765
No, nobody seriously believes that except Tsukishitmefags. All the waiting for their new game made them even more delusional.
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>>122419962
>Forced to summon Leo Major
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9o_Major
I think I have a shot at winning this
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>>122419962
>Command Seal
>>
VIVE LA FRANCE!
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>>122420090
Would orion be a great caster?
>>
Who would in a fight

>Kotomine (F/Z)

>Anderson (Hellsing)

>Souren (KnK)
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>>122420112
>she's also pretty good in CQC.
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>>122419962
I try my damnedest to get Roland
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>>122419962
>my best choice is Mario Quintana as a Caster
Fuck.

>122420169
Where would you find the Catalyst.

>>122420210
But why.
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>>122420112
Aren't Bazette and Tokiomi the only successful cases we've seen where a Master was targeted over their servant
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>>122419941
>>Heracles
he is just a demigod

>>Tamamo-no-Mae
Is just a small piece of Amaterasu

>>Stheno
>>Euryale
The Gorgon sisters are goddesses.since when?
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>>122420224
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>And then is easily disposed of by Amakusa.
After the novel states that they have weakened him.

Berserker Lancelot has the highest versatility of all Servants shown so far, with KoH being called "endless". Besides he can actually use his skills as a Berserker because of EAM, unlike Herkek.

>Semiramis is definitely more powerful than Zealot Hassan
She gets fucked by Zealot Hassan, not even close.

>Nasu has confirmed that Heracles most powerful class is Archer
And Herkek is a scrub. David wrecks with Ark and can steal NPs, True Archer has the stats of a Berserker and a NP that can supposedly match EA, also fucked up GoB while Herkek got trashed by it.
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>>122420061
That man looks very trustworthy. I should introduce him to my loli daughter, I'm sure he could teach her some great spells and alchemy.
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>>122384027
So andy crashes when I start it up, any advice?
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>>122420374
I'd say Shirou had more than a few run-ins with this same situation

Many of them were successful

A couple for Rin as well

Ilya, Sakura, Kuzuki, we've seen a few target the master overall which led to something happening.
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>>122420230
He has High Mana and Luck because in one version he is a Homunculus made 2/3 God from the Blood of Zeus and Hermes and of a human king
Also didn't piss of any God other than Apollo, and that's because Apollo is a jealous cunt who does shitnothing to gain Artemis attention

He is probably a High Speed Archer since he is a Hunter of Divine Beasts that in nasuverse Beat Artemis, that's why she is so thirsty for him, she has a Power fetish 'Weak die, Strong Trive' type of thing. Brutal Nature Hunt and stuff
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>>122419980
>Mata-Hari figure
>Ever
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>>122420410
>pumpkin wo cake
Not this shit again just does this even work?
>>
/fgog/ what catalyist could a NEET easily aquire (through ebay/amazon/whatever) that would result in a servant that could win a HGW?
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>>122420552
>pumpkin wo cake
>just does this even work
???
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>>122420548
Just get a blowup doll from the corner sex shop same thing more or less
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>>122420406
>he is just a demigod
Heracles ascends to Olympus and becomes a God at the end of his myth.
>Is just a small piece of Amaterasu
She is an aspect of Amaterasu, meaning while she is not complete Amaterasu, she is still 100% divine.
>The Gorgon sisters are goddesses.since when?
Since always? They even have EX Divinity in Fate.
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>>122420609
A picture of hideyoshi
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>>122420512
Oh wait, shit you're right if we count potential dead ends. Shinji and Rin both go after Shirou in UBW
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>>122420501
get a job
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>>122420609
Still in the 24 hour window? Depends on where you live and how much money you have, obviously. If you have more prep time, just buy yourself one of those mini-museums.
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>>122420609
A golden ipod could summon you an hero
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>>122420710
Shirou dies at least forty times from fuck ups.

He's killed by basically everyone in the game at least once. Which is a good demonstration of how possible this can be.
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>>122420112
>She just doesn't typically do it since it might end up becoming a bigger problem than the thing she was trying to deal with initially
That's what happen when everyone want master

>>122420370
Because he's one of the rare french canadian with an easily accessible catalyst his tomb and he's either a decent Archer or fall into ruler category
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>>122420690
>EX Divinity
It's Perfect Goddess
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>>122420112
Targeting a master is always an option, but in a direct confrontation the cute book has the edge.
Tamamo had no way of beating the Jabberwocky back in Extra, they needed the Vorpal Blade which Tamamo couldn't make.
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>>122420416
>After the novel states that they have weakened him.
You didn't address my other points, Vlad is out.

>Berserker Lancelot has the highest versatility of all Servants shown so far, with KoH being called "endless". Besides he can actually use his skills as a Berserker because of EAM, unlike Herkek.
Stop, seriously, this is just sad.

>She gets fucked by Zealot Hassan, not even close.
This isn't making a case for it. Semiramis is the first poisoner and Hanging Gardens of Babylon is riidculously OP.

>also fucked up GoB while Herkek got trashed by it.
That was Heracles as Berserker, we are talking about Heracles as Archer. If you had read the VN, you'd know the only reason Heracles lost against GoB was because he didn't have the mental capacity due to being a Berserker to do anything but run at it. As Archer, he'd have his vast intellect, something Nasu has always commented on.

Seriously, you're just a Lancelot F/Z secondary memer who hates Herc for no reason, that's why you don't like to admit he's the best Archer.
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>>122420924
It's a skill encompassing that and more. They're full on goddesses. Only Medusa fell from the position (although Loli Medusa is probably going to be full god),
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A few weeks ago it was Jeanne, now is Attila.This guy is living the dream.
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>>122420926
The fact that some random master could make the vorpal blade however, is an indication that its not such an impossible thing.

It requires a bit of prep-time at most; battles aren't as simple as "Its gotta be decided here and now without chance". If you're at a disadvantage then run for now, and come back to kick their ass when you're ready. As long as you take down Jabberwocky she doesn't have anything else that can stand up to you.

Even with the Jabberwocky there are some chances to be found if it has to be here and now most likely.
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>>122420863
The only ones who never kill him are Shinji and Archer.
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how to whale?
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>>122421142

He uh... has quite the wife
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>>122420745
What?
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>>122420984
I'm not the same anon, but you could make a case for Zealot over Semi if you consider how much prep time the Hanging Gardens needs. Zealot comes packaged with several useful skills and can use the majority of them very effectively, whereas Semi needs time to set up the Hanging Gardens to be truly effective.

Semi with Gardens > Zealot > Semi without Gardens
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>>122419962
>No, summoning a Servant with personality doens't count.
Yes it does.
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>>122420609
Do you have enough confident in your cooking skill?
Then make some food that will satisfy your king.
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>>122421280
Shinji kills him in Fate

Archer kills him in UBW if you don't bring Cu with you to battle
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ALWAYS
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>>122420609
Kill some kid and summon KUUURU
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>>122421378
I jerk off on some cereal. That should be more than enough to satisfy her.
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>>122421437
I can't wait for it to happens With mashu and gold all xp
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>>122420609
Ice cream?
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New bread, anyone?
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>>122421437
But she's so happy.
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>>122421331
That's a good point, but if we're talking overall powerlevels rather than the circumstances, then Semi, by virtue of having hanging gardens accessible in the first place, is more powerful.
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>>122420984
>You didn't address my other points, Vlad is out.
Your other point means shit when the comment wasn't even talking about the fusion, it was mentioning Vlad using LoD.

>Stop, seriously, this is just sad.
What is sad is your delusion. Lancelot is simply much better as a Berserker than Herkek.

>That was Heracles as Berserker
And you thinking he has a better chance as another class is headcanon. You also decided to ignore what was said about the 2 other candidates because you can't handle the fact that Herkek isn't the best anything.

Seriously, you're just an Herkek Sakurafag memer who wanks Herc for no reason, that's why you don't like to admit he's the best nothing.
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>>122421418
>Archer kills him in UBW
I played through FSN multiple times and never saw that.
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>>122421278
Of course, tactics are always gonna be better than just raw power.
That's why you will not reveal the fact that you are using the Jabberwocky like Alice did, or how the RM that eliminates you from existenc works.

Tamamo can win, but not with her raw skills an abilities, she needs to study her opponent and plan.
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>>122421650
In that case, I agree. Semi easily has the most power out of known assassins at her best. Being a two-in-one caster and assassin with a fortress that makes you invincible is better than being a swiss army knife of assassin skills.
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>>122421703
>Your other point means shit when the comment wasn't even talking about the fusion, it was mentioning Vlad using LoD.
Your talking specifically about the point where he "beats" Karna as evidence he was more powerful, but he was fused as that time. Plus, as I said, which you still haven't commented on, they were only trying to contain Vlad. That was not a fight to the death and Vlad wasn't fighting them with the intention to kill, only the intention to escape.
>Lancelot is simply much better as a Berserker than Herkek.
Ahuh :^)
>And you thinking he has a better chance as another class is headcanon.
Nope. Nasu has said that Herc as Berserker is gimped because he doesn't have access to the intelligence he would have as Archer.
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Do pictures actualy count? If I print out a pic of Vlad III, can I summon Uncle Rad with it?
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How the hell could hercules be summoned as an assassin?
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>>122420609
Just go to your closest cathedral and ask them if you can have a look at their most prized relic.
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>>122420984
>because he didn't have the mental capacity due to being a Berserker to do anything but run at it
And he wouldn't have the mental capacity to fight against EAM
Archer Hercules could probably beat Berserker Lancelot, but Berserker Hercules is basically just a tank that does badly in all of his fights but has 12 lives that he even manages to lose to archer.
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>>122420374
Because of writing more than anything else.

>>122420416
>She gets fucked by Zealot Hassan, not even close.
That's almost funny anon.
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Manaka and Medea replace Team Kuuru in Zero. What happens?
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>>122422023
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>>122422124

Kerry snipes her
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>>122421650
Ichor of Reverie and Delusional Heartbeat destroys Semi.
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>>122422023
I bet his presence concealment is shit.
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>>122422108
>>122421945
this is bait son.jpg
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>>122422124
Manaka can't stop bullets with her hands.
No, don't even try to make a case for it.

Also Gil.
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>>122422016
You could just use a shish kebab.
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>>122422023
He did assassinate his wife and kids.
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>>122422096
EAM is also Lancelot has going for him, otherwise he just charges and wails, just like any other Berserker. When it comes to charging and wailing, Herc really is the best for that.

Moot point though. I said Arc was the strongest Berserker anyway :^)
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>>122422232

>implying he wouldn't have secret intel EX so that you can't detect him as a hostile
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>>122422303
I'd love to see doctor Gil perform surgery on her.
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>>122421945
I'm talking about the novel saying he can beat Karna and Achilles. He never did it, but it was said he could.

>Thinking Herkek is a better Berserker than Lancelot
Ahuh :^)

>Nasu has said that Herc as Berserker is gimped because he doesn't have access to the intelligence he would have as Archer.
How does that translate to a better chance against GoB or being better than David/True Archer?
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Is Kerry the strongest master in the fate series by default since people die when they are shot in the head?
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>>122422382
Yeah, because that turned out great the first time.
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>>122422348
Lancelot wouldn't even be hit by EMIYA because of EAM, Hercules dies 6 times.
Lancelot is better at charging and wailing and any standard fight, Herc might better against niche enemies like Assassins and Casters just because he can die a couple times and figure out their gimmicks.
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>>122422289
>Actually thinks Zealot can match Semi
I gave you a chance to make it funny, anon. You didn't improve and I am severely disappointed.
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>>122422432
>I'm talking about the novel saying he can beat Karna and Achilles. He never did it, but it was said he could.

"Could". Could could mean he wins by sheer chance or through luck and would only win 1/50 times, not that he's guaranteed more powerful.

>How does that translate to a better chance against GoB
Because he wouldn't charge at it like a madman and instead would dodge and snipe Gil from a distance like an Archer would.
>or being better than David/True Archer?
David is a resoundingly average Archer. He's a 3* in F/GO and F/GO is the only Fate material he's appeared in, so there's nothing to suggest he's powerful.

As for True Archer, as I said, not enough is known about him to definitively make the claim he's more powerful, but Enkidu acknowledges that he is strong, he's not awed by True Archer in the least. He's powerful, but he's not the God-tier you'd expect from Archer Herc.
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>>122422348
>I said Arc was the strongest Berserker anyway :^)
You also said that if no Moon Cell then Berserker Enkidu or Heracles. Not only did you say Berserker Herkek is better than Berserker Lancelot, which is already wrong, but you compared Berserker Herkek with Berserker Enkidu, which are worlds apart in terms of power, they aren't even close.
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>>122419962
Go to the Catedral and try to summon a lewd saint
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>>122422649
>Herc might better against niche enemies like Assassins and Casters just because he can die a couple times and figure out their gimmicks.
He can't even do that because he is retarded. He can become immune to their shit though.
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>>122422709
Different anon with a nitpick. You can't possibly use star count as a way to show how weak or how strong a servant is. That's just idiotic.
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>>122422753
>Not only did you say Berserker Herkek is better than Berserker Lancelot, which is already wrong
No, it's true.

Remember, Herc is a GOD from the Age of Gods, whereas Lancelot was just a knight of the round table.
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You know the drill
>>122422889
>>122422889
>>122422889
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>>122421812
>Tamamo can win, but not with her raw skills an abilities,

You could basically say the same about any servant, "You can't beat Jabberwocky without prep-time, therefore you're lesser in raw power. Without prep-time you don't stand a chance"

Its like "No shit, you literally need prep-time to beat Jabberwocky at all". Nursery Rhyme is a fairly weak servant though that might die in one hit, which is why I say there are some chances to win even if Jabberwocky is there. Jabberwocky isn't beating the servant, Jabberwocky is just a meat-wall that's in the way of beating the servant. Whether they can naturally beat Jabberwocky isn't really a factor, since no one can beat it naturally. Unless you're Gilgamesh I suppose.

Its like saying you can't beat Alexander unless you can beat Ionioi Heiteiro, or you can't beat Medusa unless you can beat Pegasus. You can still beat them even if you can't beat their mount.

Tamamo could win with raw abilities if she summoned her other tails, but like I said, that's likely to create a worse situation than having to die against Alice in the first place. Its really not a smart thing to do.

Its something to avoid, its not even the type of thing that could be called a last resort.

She's a sweets spirit in the first place, so she rarely cares about losing or winning compared to just having fun.
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>>122422927
You can when it's the only indicator of a servant's strength. David has only appeared in F/GO, his F/GO stats are all we have to go off when assessing his power.
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>>122422649
>Lancelot wouldn't even be hit by EMIYA
You are overestimating Lancelot.
If Cu, Herc and Saber could be hit, Lancelot can be hit as well.
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>>122422124
They might be able to get Hassan to betray Kotomine. Hassan was waiting for an opportunity to find a new Master and with Rule Breaker in play it could become quite an easy feat for him. If Manaka and Medea can bolster their capabilities with the intelligence gathering and subversion potential of the Hundred-Faced Hassan, together they'd become a ridiculously dangerous team.
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>>122422382
I don't think that ripping someone heart with your bare hand is a approved medical practice.It is anti-hygienic.
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>>122422676
I'm not him,actually I agree with you,I just don't understand why you respond to him he's either baiting or retarded.
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>>122423060
That's why I say Nursery is "stronger".
She gives you a better and more options in war.
Saying she is worst than Tamamo because she is phisically weak, it's like how Gil is bad because spamming weapons and using EA is everything he can do.
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>>122422432
That was also Karna without full use of his NPs. He was being dragged down by the fact that they were all running on Amakusa and couldn't get help from their real masters.
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Who would be stronger, Nanaya reinforced by Medea or Kuzuki reinforced by Medea?
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>>122424374
Nanaya.
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