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>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.

>Class Poll
- http://strawpoll.me/5756393

Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (open until 6th): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Thursday, November 25, 2015, 23:00 PM (EST)

>Leveling Guide for Idiots
Check your maps for recommended levels and grind there faggot

>F.O.E. list/spawn timers by some anons
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
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>>122080609
Silver and gold bars
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SHOW ME THAT ARCHER BOOTY
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>>122080610
>Doing 130 dungeon
>Maintenance notification
>Have 30 minutes can finish
>Oh no wait you now have 2 minutes

Bastards. I really wish they'd give more notice.
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>>122080610
kkkkkkkk xd
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>>122080657
I cant be arsed to play a wizard, but what you are describing seems like a nice endgame.
Also the idea that you open a portal to fight monsters so you can help people upgrade their armor sounds cute as fuck.
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Every few quests
Until you like it
10 monsters with 2000+ damage seeking attacks
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>>122080823
Another maint that accomplishes nothing. What a waste of time.
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>>122080896
Please understand.
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>>122080865
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>>122080896
they are +10 from your level
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>>122080823
>xD
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>>122080896
should've taken fire pillar
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>>122080939
It makes no difference at this point.
Things 10 level below still hit the same.
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>>122080823
xD
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Did anyone else catch that in the announcement they said that bug fixing in our beta is a best-effort only thing?

They'll fix what they can and leave the rest.
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>>122080973
>>122080896
Should've saved all those exp cards so you can skip that level xD
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>kill a blue mob that someone didn't notice
>gain only half a level
did i make a mistake somewhere
i'm only level 78 at mausoleum 2f
i already did gytis settlement area
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>>122080862
Item awakening is cute until you use it on a lv170 weapon and it gives you a lv202 boss. Wrecked my shit, man. I'm really happy with this though, I'm having a lot of fun making stuff.
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This new meme is great xD
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>>122081025
Probably just a little critter, they give little exp
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>>122081015
What exp cards?
I saved all 130-165, you'd need to save a lot more to be 186+ here.
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>>122080917
Pyro c2 > Linker > Sorc > Alch

It was pretty much suffering because of the linker bullying until I got sorcerer and the summons just kicked ass. I could basically run in circles in demon prison 2f and the templeshooter summon would kill everything in 1-2 hits aside from the harugals, which took 3-4 hits. Had to suck down SP pots like crazy but I'm better off now that I can make pots with 30s cd instead of the 60s cd one you can buy from Fedimian.
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>>122081081
is the leveling still ok at that level? besides dying to shit like that
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>>122081095
Laima

I'll be in Klaipeda ch7 when the servers come back up
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>>122080896
What's your build? Super curious.
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>>122081125
I quested all the way from 165 to 184, now I'm kinda stuck until 186.
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>>122081109
Are there any other boss cards that are somewhat useful, or only Temple Shooter?
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/imc-we-do-not-have-the-kcbt-rates/115765
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>>122081250
Throneweaver has pretty good poison AOE, and Harpeia is pretty fun. Necroventer/Chapparition is alright too. Haven't tried Dullahan. The rest are pretty much food to feed to the superior summons.
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>>122081250
Oh, and Unknocker has a billion skills and is super fun to play as. You just throw money at things and they die.

Fun fact if you're going sorc and need cards to level your summons, use an unknocker against specter monarch cards. You absolutely cannot lose. So just go on shout and ask for people with those and pay them per.
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Finally got my meme dagger drop for my monk, +100 damage from what I've seen. Its alright.
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>>122081214
I went Pyro c3 and psy c2.
Fireballs and Flame Ground last for long and hit hard; I felt it was strong enough to hold on it's own so I went Psy which is fun really bad aside from Pressure.
Level 15 fireballs with pressure are basically a boss nuke.
I have 50 con, 30 spr and rest int.
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>>122081223
That's interesting. Can you elaborate on when you grinded/used your cards?
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>>122081297
Rithiris or whatever he was called was cool, but he has like no fucking HP so enemies will shred him. Like he has less HP than the average player, while cards like Chapparition are 50k+ HP. The plus side to mister sword golem was that he had like 1k Attack and Magic Attack at 1 star and jumped high over every level he got. But way too glass cannon to use over Chapparition
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>>122081256
Yeah, IMC is not actually capable of doing what promised.
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>>122081410
fun but really bad*

>>122081414
Just save cards after 130 and grind at prison 140-165. I might have missed some cards so save a few more lv 7s if you can, to be safe.
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>>122081297
>>122081356
Neat, thanks. Guess i'll have fun with trying different bosses until i get Shooter.

>>122081410
Can you post .webm of fireball+pressure on boss? I saw that once, but never on boss.
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>>122081410
pyro c3 and psy c2 in that order?
Crazy that you didn't try out any of the r6 classes
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>>122081109
This is reinforcing my desire to make an alch first in live. You say that build was suffering until you hit sorc though? That worries me since I have the same build planned minus sorc.
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>>122081419
My level 5 Templeshooter hits things for 1.2 - 1.5k twice each for about 2.5k damage per autoattack. There's a reason everyone uses one when grinding

>>122081502
Messing with summons was half the fun of being sorc. Have fun man, it's the most showoff class in the game.
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>>122081256
>That one guy who's trying to say that OP's just jelly.
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>>122081490
people are saying that there isn't enough cards to go to 177 from 160

but you're able to go from 165 to 184 on cards?
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>>122081410
I think Wizard girl looks so nice in both concept art and fanart, but I dont really like how they look ingame, I wonder why.
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>>122081109
What do you think about same path except cryo c2 instead of pyro? Totally worthless?
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ITS UP
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>>122081576
The chibi models lack the big boobies.
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>>122081583
I won't pretend to know anything about cryo because I never played as one and I have never partied with one. Just keep in mind those first 3 circles is going to power you through 80% of the grinding.
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SEA server when?
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>>122081576
same here
dress looks kinda lame. like the stockings tho
cant wait to get alchemist
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>>122081534
Rithy was like the highest damaging card I've seen, with really good AoEs when you're riding him (also because flying swords are like the coolest AoE a summon has) but again, he's fucking impossible to use because he just dies as soon as something hits him. Impossible to use without riding him, while Temple Shooter is superior overall and actually won't instantly melt when he's left to auto attack things.

The coolest boss summon, made of sheer fucking glass and unfortunately needed to be fed to anything more reliable. Shame a lot of neat bosses are mutants so you can't use those. I'd love to use Glackuman as a Sorc, but that has to wait until Necro
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>>122081583
People seem to agree that cryo is c1 or c3, nothing in between.
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>>122081534
>most showoff class
also you forgot
>fuck you
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>>122081490
Oh, I thought you meant carding until 165 and then questing from there. Too good to be true
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Servers are up.
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>>122081410
Post boss nuke webm
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>>122081583
This >>122081708, I tried plenty of Cryo builds and really, c2 is not worth it.
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Market down

Real nice fix
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>>122081781
>No items on the market
IMC does it again!
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market's fixed guys :)
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>>122081708
I know that too, but i want to take cryo to have godlike pvp potential, Linker kind of really helps the group in my opinion but might just ditch it and go for cryo c3>sorc>alch.
>>122081659
Y, i know that. Levelled rogue using c3 archer>scout, so, basically c3 archer all the way.
>>122081801
I know that cryo c2 is a bad circle for cryo, the problem is in ditching linker for c3 and staying c1 is just too widespread.
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>>122081851
>>122081839
>>122081820
IMC truly are best devs.
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Doing instances with a party filled with mostly pyromancers is so much fun and so fast.
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>>122081851
Hey, on the not so bright side, parties work
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dluKwf3XHC0
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I didnt got IPFd, somebody else shartes my luck?

>>122081851
>Shout wasnt supposed to be implemented in the first place
I completely agree
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>>122081502
i can give you TS card if you are on Gabija.
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Is there an xp penalty on killing red (higher level) enemies?
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>anyone done the Grand Corridor quest Tremendous Effect?

>I have no idea how to complete this... the fireball does nothing...
anyone?
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>Ask for bonus levels to test the high level content
>TC's just jelly
>Ask IMC for better exp on monsters
>GO HOME CASUAL

At this rate, I might as well go get a KR phone number, an english patch and play the KR Open Beta.
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>>122082043
T-that's not what everyone is gonna do?
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>>122081860
can i leave archer at C2? i know that i cant leave Ranger at C2.
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>>122082082
Your chances of getting into kOBT are rather small.
I got mine by begging a korean on omegle.
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>>122082086
It depends on what you plan to go for. Rogue doesnt even need that crit rate increase. You get +flat crit chance from behind with 10s cd @ rank 5. If you want to go for pure pve rogue you might as well go for ranger 3. Ranger c2 is as bad as cryo c2 afaik. You only get increased Barrage levels.
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>Still thinking the gooks care about the international community
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>>122081576
>>122081645
>>122081680
Wizard is cute

CUTE
U
T
E
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>>122082143
I know people who got into kCBT, so I'll ask them for advice
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Who else fell saving cards meme
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>>122082235
fucking missed a word
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>>122082143
What, its an open beta. Don't you just need a nexon account?
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>>122081502
>>122081785
I recorded my last boss kill, you can see thsi monster wasn't big enough, so the fireballs got pushed, but just that first seconds did a lot of damage.

>>122081508
yes, they didn't really interest me

>>122081565
from 160, but from 165 there should be
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>>122082235
Why aren't you using two-handed swords?
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What class is this? Found it on pixiv, I'm not even sure if its an actual class, though.
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>>122082374
Meme Dagger's pretty strong, in his defense
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>>122082043
Is this mostly the ROfags that are shitposting and calling out 'casuals' though?

I'm a former RO player myself, but I agree with the OP in that post.
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>>122082235
Weren't you like 145 yesterday? What the fuck
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>>122082043
Fuck, ToS forums are more elitist than /tosg/.
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>>122082452
Yeah I grinded from 145 to 156 in Demon Prison for a little over 12 hours and then used all my level 3-6 cards. I still 21 lvl6 cards left.
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>>122082012
I am on gabigabi, almost ready to roll a sorc.
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>>122082514
More like hardheaded and unwilling to accept criticism
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>>122081851

more like reeeeeeeeeeeee of savior
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>>122082576
Around How many cards did you use to jump from 156?
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>>122082576
Where's the best spot in Demon Prison to grind?
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>>122082626
forgot pic
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>>122082626
call me up when you roll a sorc
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So after reaching rank 5 for my cleric, I realized something amazing: paladins and monks should never go full str and instead rely on spr to act as their damage increase.

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/1ts8bev9tg/

You go 1:1 Con Spr until you hit 50 Con, then you go 1:3 Spi Dex until you need more health to survive.

With the build, 1 spr gives you the usual stuff and it gives you AND your party 2 physical damage, 1 crit attack and 0.8 crit rate. At 200 you'd wind up with something like 50 Con, 80 Spr and 140ish Dex.

You'd end up playing like a hybrid healer/support/DPS that upkeeps buffs and debuffs between smites but also provides a ton of dmg to the group.

This epiphany actually makes me regret not going for this build. It just seems like the right way to play Paladin/Monk now that I think about it.
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>>122082714
629 cards. Here's the image from yesterday.
>>122082771
Just find a party in District 2 and sit in one of the rooms.
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>>122082789
Creepy
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>maintenance
>Sorry xD
>party chat broken
>market down

What did they even do
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>>122082946
>Only have 100 lv6 cards saved at 141

Fuck. Off to prison for a long time.
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>that new trailer
HOLY SHIT
THE 200+ AREAS LOOK SO PRETTY
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>>122083114
6 aren't really important anyway
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Did they just break everything except parties?
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>>122083159
They're still 6 million jew exp.
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MARKET WORKS
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>>122083178
Yeah, yeah they did. It's okay as long as when the market returns it didn't completely eat everything for a fifth time. Shout worked for a few seconds and then killed itself a bit ago
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I really want to play as a merchant squire but the fact that everything is gonna be wiped in a week forces me to play a korea approved build
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>>122083263
Two weeks
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I thought getting to 175 would make the game get easier, but it hasn't actually been that way. The dungeon helps, but the actual grinding spots aren't nearly as good, meaning I am getting less exp than I was at 16x.
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>>122083362
Yeah but you're rank 6 now so you can stop caring
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>>122082441
>>122082441
It is mostly ROfags but what ROfags don't realise is the game is nothing like RO and they felt for 3rd party marketing.

They're also the same ones who defend the games linearity, awful stat system and poor class balance with vague retorts that don't really address any of those issues such as;
>It's just a beta!
>Well some classes are support and sum r dps xD
>in RO u pump 1 stat too!!

It's amazing how a playerbase as pretentious as ToS with all the hootin and hollerin about saving MMO's and being Ragnarok 2015 and how all other MMO's are linear pieces of shit with no sense of community actually defend a game that in it's current stage is the exact same thing.

I don't even hate the game, I hate the idiots it attracts.
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Forestry if you're still around, we can continue with the merc quests.
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What are the best skills to choose as an alchemist right now? I'm kinda confused about how they work.
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>>122083429
Still 60% away. And I do care for lvl 200, since there's plenty of time left.
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where do I farm money at 100 ?
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>>122083429
By the way where is the official post about this armband that you get if you reach rank 6?
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>>122083579
No such thing. Officially, corean testers will get one though
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You have a new friend request.
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>>122083539
do you get to grind the final 15 class levels?
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>>122083512
>Another wasted beta key :^( I hope IMC gives them out to more worthy people who can appreciate their masterful work
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Did anyone else here go chronomancer and lost the will to play on their character.
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>>122082887
what is it with people and ratio builds?
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>>122083663
I was really thinking of playing Chronomancer. Like it was my top 5 pick because holy shit TIME MAGES.

But after the beta started and I learned a bit of the mechanics I realised Chronomancer would be a steaming pile of shit. Still hoping for some people who went Chronomancer to update us how whether Quicken is shit or not and if Back Masking revives party members.
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This bow fucking sucks
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>>122083663
I went Sorcerer and lost the will to play on my character.

Watching your temple shooter take 3 seconds to aim and miss the enemy while a Barbarian/Cata rushes past you at twice your move speed and murders everything in two basic attacks is just depressing.
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>>122080896
Heh, you havent seen anything yet on that map. The last quest will leave you scarred for life. Even I as a sorc was surprised and had to run away like a little girl.
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>>122082887

>support monk/paladin

3/10 for the effort
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>>122083512
ITS GOOD WHEN IMC DOES IT
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>>122083663
Every single chronomancer ever, and its not even the "I want to reroll another class" effect that some archers go thought. Going Chrono actually makes you never play this game anymore.

I hope they make the class worth something in future updates because the outfit is adorable.
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>>122083761
I already finished it. If it was the one you have to survive for a few minutes, I just ran around like a bitch and it worked.
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/this-game-is-nothing-new-and-not-much-good/110900
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>>122083752
Why? This is more or less how all the bonuses against types (and sizes/elements) should look.
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>>122083663
See the reason you dont want to play anymore is that Wizards are kinda boring to begin with and you invest large amounts of time to become a more boring Wizard.

It takes me 1hr to realise Archer is shit and reroll Memelander, but 100 hours to get to Chronomancer and its shit? I'd be burned out.
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>>122083750
I'm only class level 3 chrono but one point in quicken does absolutely nothing. I'm curious about if back masking does that to, since that would make it good, but I bet it only works on enemies or some shit. I wonder though. Their skills overall are just so underwhelming though...
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WOW! THEY DID MAINT AND NOW CHAT AND MARKET NOT WORK ON ZEMYNA EVEN THOUGH THEY DID BEFORE
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>>122083750
It is shit, also its only thing in your arsenal that has some use, but its shit.

Black masking dont revive party members, its a skill so useless I'm not even kidding.
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>>122083878
Basically get shit on nerd desu senpai
>Zemyna meme server
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>>122083875
What weened me off Chronomancer was actually playing Archer and seeing the ASPD increase from Kneeling Shot. It was practically nothing and the stats were only a couple dozen points lower than Quicken.

Archer saved me from 100 hours of investment into disappointment.
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>want to be musketeer
>musket are 2H weapon
aren't classes with 2H will be dead since they cannot use the meme dagger offhand?
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This shit PQ took literally 20 minutes, thank god I got these. I wonder when you start getting Lv 9s.
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Can anyone help me out with a sorc spec?
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>>122083956
kek, theyre gonna be nerfed to the ground. Im calling it.
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>>122083871
Yeah this basically, at least I know I won't be picking Chrono in open beta! I do quite like wizard though, their support classes besides chrono are very good too. Thaumaturge is REALLY good but it's not very fun to play. I might just go and make an elementalist c3 in open beta/release, seems fun.

>>122083949
I hope they rework the attack speed values, it feels too insignificant. Yet in the video preview of quicken you see the character attack at crazy speeds, but that might have been lv 10/15 quicken.
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>>122082789
Lei-lei.
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>>122083920
Zemyna is the best server though.
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Wait there's a new trailer?
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>>122083848
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Do swordies just pump STR or STR + DEX like archer?
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>>122083996
They should, it's pretty retarded.
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>>122083959
i heard u can just reset until u get the ones with exp reward ?right?
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This place is like Demon Prison, but without the good music.

Please send help.
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What determines whether a monster will automatically aggro you? Not the dungeon type ones, just out in the map
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>>122084074
yea but only a few show the reward before you complete it
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>>122084121
If they were programmed to attack the player without provocation or not.
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>>122084121
Having certain quests in the area active makes enemies do that.
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So what did the patch fix xD
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>>122083512

>I don't even hate the game, I hate the idiots it attracts.

Same here.

RO to me was more about dumb moments I had as a teenager in my first MMO anyway. ToS doesn't need to be like that, and it already gives me the nostalgia I wanted as is, but it could use a number of changes and improvements as stated.

I admit, I actually squealed when I pressed the Insert button to sit the first time I did it in ToS though.
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Holy fuck, help, I'm enjoying Demon Prison too much
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>>122083736
Ratios are there so mouth breathers don't ask "well what stat ratio should I use?". Any sane, intelligent individual should know how to stat by feel and experience.

>>122083789
If you want to be a DPS monk/paladin, reroll swordsman instead. Paladin and Monk dps is a fucking joke compared to what swordsman, archer and wizard does.
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>>122083959
Which quests can be soloed and that I can see the rewards before hand?
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Why doesn't pyrlight pendant add to damage like arde dagger?
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Did they increase monster density?
I walked into a room and it had more monsters in it than I've ever seen there. And I've farmed that area with no other players around
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Once you hit 166, its okay to simply use all experience cards at once?
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>>122084425
All of them can be soloed. The quests from Watcher Erra and Sorcerer Master.
But the reward is always white tiger mask and bride coronet for me.
FUCK
I'm gonna do it and hopefully the reward will change next time.
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>>122083993
Anyone?
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>>122084517
I tried the miner's village one, and it kicked my ass. Defending an area for 12 minutes agaisnt hordes of high HP monsters with magic attacks isn't feasible.
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>>122084510
it depends how many you have

http://www.tosbase.com/game/exp-tables/base

I recommend grinding until you can hit 177-178 with your cards, as there are no quests at 175 and 176
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>>122083993
>>122084552
I'm sorc, but I promise nothing
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>>122084139
wait how do you reset the quest? i can remake the party but the quest still lingers on my log. theres no button to abandon it either
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>>122084583
Some are pretty hard, but doable. Now we have alchemist potions so it's easier.

>>122084618
Just make a new party and change zones.
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>>122084674
What are the alchemist potions?
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>>122084584
I have 40,707,814 in experience cards
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The most incompetent devs I've seen.
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Where can I get the noot?
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>>122084740
These babies.
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>>122084674
do i still have to talk to the first npc to tell what the reward is? or am i able to tell for certain quests at the start (merc outpost)?
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>>122084792
party quests

>>122084812
for the two quests I mentioned, it will show the reward on your log at the start
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Was there a patch? What did it change?
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>>122082383
it looks like some redesign of hoplite, nothing actually looks like that in game
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>>122084595
well?
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>>122084956
Players were unable to see their items on the market, so they took the market down.
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>>122082383
I would kill for a dress like this.
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>wanna buy something from the market
>can't
nice game tosbabbies
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>>122084757
According to the chart, it will take roughly 41.8 million to reach 177.
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>>122084981
Oh you want me to do everything for you
I thought you'd post something and I'd offer input or something
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>>122083956
>Falconer icon

musketeer replacing falconer?
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>>122085062
Are there any efficient monster spawn areas around 177? As I'm already out of prison, nor do I particularly want to attempt to go back in and find a group.
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>>122084110
>tfw have a good build
>kill every enemy here in 2 basic attacks or 1 skill
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>>122080610
Any first trying this game for wizard?
I was going to go necromancer because they looked cool.
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>>122085082
Can I salvage Wiz > Pyro > Linker into sorc?
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>>122085391
Don't
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who /warlock/ here
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Klaipeda has the best music.
It's been stuck in my head since icbt2 started and I'm not even upset about it.
Crystal mines a close second.
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I literally cannot do this party quest because I cannot protect the objective thing. Monster kill it before I can kill them.

Blame it on my shit class progression, I guess.
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>>122085463
Klaipedia's pretty good, but most forest themes are really high up there. Same for the section of the Grand Cathedral, Demon Prison and Tenant's Farms
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>>122085391
There's no way you'll make it to necro by the time the beta ends now. You took too long bro.
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>>122085401
My current build is Wiz > Pyro c2 > Linker > Sorc, I didn't have any problem soloing it for the most part
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Is this just me?

>drop fireball
>link enemies
>hangman knot jutsu
>supposed to be instant kill
>monsters suddenly hits the ball far away from them

Fucking IMC
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>>122085513
just let the birds gust it away
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>>122085639
Fuck that was actually what I had in mind. Some builds go ele c1 for whatever reason. I think ele c1 is really weak.
>>
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/imc-we-do-not-have-the-kcbt-rates/115765/11
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>>122085712
Yeah I'm currently lv179 and the pyro+linker skills are still pulling me through when I don't have summon out. Pyro skills still do decent dps and the parties love the joint penalty+hangman.
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around what level do you hit rank 6?
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>>122085809
177/8
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>>122085772
I really wanted to try Pyro Linker pyro pyro necro but it's not enough time anymore to hit r6 I guess.

So I will settle for sorc.
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>>122085529
Ah, alrighty, any tips then? mainly wondering int/spr ration.
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>>122085513
It's too bad you didn't take a clerk path.
You can totally heal anything like that.
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>>122083848
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>>122084584
I'm going to go ahead and use the cards. As I have yet to complete Viltis forest and laukyme swamp, hopefully the experience cards from those areas can provide enough of a boost to 177.
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>>122083959
How do you even locate party quests? The database doesn't list them.
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>>122085905
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>>122085953
By exploring, using your brain and your eyes. You know, like humans used to do before the internet?
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>>122085650
Link is fucking weird. Some times it only brings two monsters together and the fireball wouldn't go in with them.
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http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/124101/

or

http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/123110/
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>>122084894
i think out of the 5 times i've gotten the sorcerer master quest, ive seen pink ribbons as reward and it hasnt changed. is it locked in until you complete it?
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>>122085953
What do you mean? They have minimap markers.
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>>122085924
Don't forget there's also a dungeon at 175. I don't know how much exp it gives, but it's something.
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>>122086052
I swear this shit keeps on happening today, for the past week I could just link them to fireballs then they melt instantly.
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>>122086081
I'll find out tomorrow, wasted mine to try it.

>>122086168
It only gives about 20%
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>>122086193
It's been happening for days now. I've tried doing it but only two monsters get pulled together every dungeon while the other two and the fireball just fly off in the other direction.
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>>122085513
>15k HP
This niggor knows what's up
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Anyone wants to do the 175 dungeon o Zemyna? I can't find a party without Shout being up.
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Any druids here, and what are your thoughts on the class?
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I absolutely dislike Peltasta in 50 and 90 dungeons.

>0 damage
>aggro complete room with body pull and proceed to just block
>mobs break out and rape everything
>pawnds shooting 360°

So fucking annoying everytime. Hoplites doing the same shit.
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>>122083959
probably when you are 187
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>>122086379
According to the forums peltasta is overpowered and needs to be nerfed.
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Anyone know where to get Wind Runner recipe?
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>>122083959
I tried that at level 184 doppelroony and couldn't protect the fucking totem. Not doable as melee barbarian.

Another point for the Wizard class I suppose, again. :)
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>>122086359
Nobody?
In any case, I'm presuming druid is a class that requires more then 1 rank to be efficient
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1more for merc quests 125-130
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>>122086661
just do this >>122085693
The mobs can't attack it.
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>Got the Nuale card
Praying for it to not suck so I can have the closest thing I'm getting to an angel summon
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>>122086705
that doesn't work

the birds gust it to the side but the mobs still will hit it

look closely, the totem still ticks 1 damage when they hit the empty space the totem used to be

I always got it down to 2 minutes and then BOOM it fails so I gave up
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>>122085639
Any chance you could post your skill distribution and stats?
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>>122086791
Oh, damn.
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>>122086763
Nuale completely bugged

she only has one basic attack and the camera fucks up too
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>>122086534
From Earth Canceril
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RIP Gabija market and shout.
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>>122086379
Mind if I ask what Pelts and Hoplites should be doing?

I play the latter myself, but I was told not to block and only to kite.
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>>122086893
>>122086763
Do all bosses in the game have a chance to drop a respective card?
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>>122086893
oh and I forgot, her health starts at like 15% too
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>>122086963
Yeah, though I never got the cards I really wanted (any of the previous demon lords, Succubus etc.)

>>122086893
>>122087051
Yeah, just ended up feeding her. Hopefully people start paying attention to world bosses on Laima more often. Don't really want to pay people to lose their cards to me
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>>122086856
Pyro: All skill points into fireball, flameground, fire pillar (because it stun locks mobs)
Linker: The only skill not at max is joint penalty because you get 5 links at lv4
Sorc: Get summon, then riding, then templeshooter and fuck shit up. Max out summon then put the rest into whatever

Stats were 2:1 int/spr until around level 130 when I decided I didn't like getting one-shot by archer mobs and started going 1:3:2 con/int/spr.
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Blessing should be an aura, draining SP over time. Having to constantly recast it is a pain.
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>>122087115
Did anyone ever find a Mirtis card? It's the one I really wanted but I'm not sure it even exists. Maybe that guy who restarted over and over for the helmet would know.
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>>122087115
>>122087257
I'm curious to know if anybody has ever had this boss have his card drop :
http://www.tosbase.com/database/monsters/41232/
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>>122087205
No way, that would interfere with other class outputs
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>>122087363
At the very least, the card is in the database so I imagine it could drop from the quest or another encounter later. I definitely didn't get the card to drop, though
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/644100/
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>>122087363
only remember fighting this at sanctuary. and the card did not drop
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Anyone got a spare card of Templeshooter on Gabija ?

Just starting out sorcerer and I thought summon servant would be permanent, too bad the cat just come and goes right away.
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jesus fuck I have waiting an hour to get a party for 90 dungeon, I'm 100/8 with about 20 lvl 5 cards stored I just wanna fuck around with rank 5. Will I have to grind before it ?
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Is there any reason to pick INT as wizard, I mean spamming Z is boring as hell, while I could just spam my skills instead, that cause much more dmg at the moment.
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>>122087653
Stop fucking memeing
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clearing dungeons with randoms is kinda fun
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Hi guys. No one asked but here is what happens if you find a lucky mob (not blue, think this was white) and activate Double Pay (which doubles drop rate / exp) and over kill it.

I couldn't imagine the EXP gains from a Blue Mob that was overkillable. Essentially if you found a blue mob and knew a Barbarian friend and a Thaumaturge you could party up and gain 2x3x2=12x the EXP rates (boosted further with party exp, then divided to 3) and 2x2=4 drop rates.

My dream is to one day make a Thaumaturge slutfriend in release and we both go mobbing together, just me and (you).
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>>122087526
yes, where do you want to meet?
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/content-in-the-game-so-far/115871/4

This Stoner Sunshine guy is alright.
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>>122087763
Jesus Christ
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>>122087653
Until now I went full INT on my Cryomancer, is that wrong?
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>>122087553
plz help, can I pop the cards yet ?
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>>122082014
Not exactly, no.
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>>122087763
Klaipeda ch.12 Priest Master ?
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>>122087761
How's Doppel?
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>>122087673
Thanks, I know the dankes memes even with first character.
>>122087830
Dunno?
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>guy in Fedimian selling Alchemist potions
>have asked him 3 times over a few hours how many potions he has because I want to buy a large amount
>never responds but is willing to talk to his SEA friends
Guess I'm never gonna have any.
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How do I abuse these party quests for exp cards? There are specific NPCs that show the rewards before you do the quest?
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>Grinding
>Suddenly lag increases a lot
>Stop
>Shout is back for 20 seconds
>Dies
>Repeat cycle

They're obviously working on trying to get things working again, without success. Databases shouldn't be crashing this often, and they probably can't figure out the reason either.
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>>122088070
just pretend to know pinoy

use google translate and call him a fucking faggot
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>>122088070
I'll be an alchemist as soon as I get out of prison. Send help.
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>>122087763
Shame you cant trade them.
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>>122088214
>IT'S JUST A BETA, IMC can do no wrong
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>>122088070

Tell him put tank in a mall and he should respond.
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Meanwhile, at IMC headquarters:

Dev 1 - Guys, I need ideas on how to make boss fights as annoying and frustrating as possible.

Dev 2 - How about we add them to every quest line? Make them appear literally every 10 minutes?

Dev 1 - Uhh won't that put a toll on our art department? You know, having to create several hundreds of different bosses?

Dev 2 - No worries, we can just reuse their models and animations, paint them a different color and slap in a different name prefix with increased base stats.

Dev 1 - Sounds like a plan. Gameplay?

Dev 3 - Make them completely immune to half the players' abilities.

Dev 1 - That's a given. Anything else?

Dev 2 - Knockdowns...

Dev 1 - Sounds bland.

Dev 2 - ...on every attack.

Dev 1 - That's better. What else?

Dev 4 - Give them long periods of complete immunity to damage while they unleash their drawn out attacks the player must avoid while not being able to do much other than running around.

Dev 1 - Excellent idea, that increases the time players must spend in the fights without really adding anything substantial to the challenge. I like it.

Dev 2 - Speaking of time, I think the fights are too short. I can two hit them with my barbarian. Should we increase the boss' HP?

Dev 1 - Yeah, let's start by tripling the value.

Dev 3 - Sir, that would make each boss fight last more than ten minutes for a wizard.

Dev 1 - Should've rolled swordsman.

Dev 3 - Fair enough.

Dev 1 - Check this out, we could also add these traps. They could have different effects, like rooting the player...

Dev 2 - Or silencing them.

Dev 1 - Yeah... wait, doesn't silence stop basic attacks, too?

Dev 4 - Fire traps! Make it so the bosses can chain them by knocking the player into one for an instant kill.

Dev 1 - Nice. Anything else to wrap it up?

Dev 5 - BULLET HELL PHASE. THEY SHOOT BULLETS LIKE TOUHOU.

Dev 1 - Woah, Ed. I think that's kinda... out of place in this game.

Dev 5 - TOUHOU.

Dev 1 - Okay... we'll see what we can do...
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That's it, Pyro/linkers are now shit.

>fireball, link into hangman knot
>fireball travels to opposite direction
>have to manually strike fireball to mobs

Thank you IMC
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>>122088278
Does the star rating improves the summon ?
>>
This game has too many issues for a release even be possible within an year.
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>>122087978
I've stopped playing.
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>>122088687
Gabe Newell will fix everything once the game comes out. And make it use source 2.
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>>122088645
Yes, but only of the sub card.

Main card is what you summon, sub card determines its stats.
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>We should have shit exp rates because this is just our second cbt
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>>122088739
So you put the one you want as your main and then level the two sub cards?
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complete shitter here

can someone post that leveling guide image

i'm kinda retarded
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>still can't play cause gaem broke

Every day i am edging closer to suicide
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>>122088820
Two sub cards?

You can only equip one. But you can equip the same card in both main and sub slots.
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>>122088869
Guess I remembered wrong. I don't know where I heard two.
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>>122088838
Good
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>>122088827
I dont have it, but check the previous thread, it was there.
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Where do I grind at level 130?
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>>122088827
You don't need it.

Here, use this map: http://www.tosbase.com/game/world-map/

Here, use the quest list: http://www.tosbase.com/database/quests/

Map level MINUS 10 is when you can do quests there.

Keep changing pages on quests list and keep it open. It also pretty much tells you exactly what is your next map to go to and then just look it up on the world map.


It's that simple anon.

You will never need another shitty guide again. Just save cards after 130. Grind to 164~166 and pop your cards.

Cards give a random bonus EXP sometimes, that is why all these guides show success at different levels.
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>>122088816
I kind of like the XP rate we have. I only got to level 130 though, heard it gets pretty bad after that. But the pace of getting to rank 5 felt pretty good with these rates. I really hope we don't get cbt1 rates on release, I will fucking kill myself. It took me like 15 hours to get to level 35.
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>>122087205
No. Blessing(and other buffs) should only affect you and your party members

What the fuck is this retarded buff sharing crap.
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>>122089045
I like these rates too.
The only time you really have to grind is between 145 and 170.
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>>122088838
Too late faggot you already have way too much icoins, you will never truly know peace
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>>122089196
The rates are decent but they need to work on streamlining the levelling/grinding experience from 130+
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>>122089045
>>122089196

The exp rates are good, they could be slower if there were other maps as good as demon prison.
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>>122089045
The only thing I really want is an instance at 70 and for IMC to fix the shit curve between Tenet and Royal.

Not mention more maps with good density and the obvious add more channels.
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>>122089317
They expect you to do the dungeon at 50 5 times to get to level 60. The dungeon is so easy to miss if you're a new player though.
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>>122089357
Sometimes I feel they expect us to grind dungeon until we are at least 70
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>>122089267
They stated already somewhere that they will move the peaks closer to the level of the gear.

This means the peak of experience will be moved either forward or back closer to 70, 120 and 170 so that when you gain new gear you will stay in those levels a little longer than just burst level forward so my guess is the peaks will move forward which makes early leveling easier.

It makes sense too. New gear means faster killing and as such faster leveling. All they need to do then is to balance the monster amounts. Grind Prison 2 needs to be lowered in spawn count and all the other 10 maps everywhere else needs to have their spawns increased. Also add at least 2 channels to all the late maps.
>>
>that musketeer and shinobi

nngh
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>>122084060
Full CON. STR and DEX are useless.
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>>122089442
Full STR is not useless
Full CON is meh
Full DEX is useless
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>>122089419
>tfw shinobi looks super fun but it will no doubtedly be one of the most played classes
wew
Those new mage classes they showed look really cool too though, everything does to be honest. Glad we are getting a proper spear class with Dragoon too.
>>
>>122082334
What exactly do fireball+pressure do?
>>
Do I get the extra party EXP if I'm alone?
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>>122089507
>caring about what is most/least played

lmao hipster aids
>>
>>122089357
The dungeon shouldn't be mandatory though. And its ridiculous how the game just randomly bounces from 50ish to 46, goes up to 60s then back down to 58 and up again.

Or the huge jump in the side quest next to the first town where it goes from 69 to 84.
>>
Post the trailer
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>>122089017
hey man where does story quest pick up after mausoleum ?
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>>122089640
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sayYpOhqJXg
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Is Cartar Stroke still crashing entire party if used with Blessing?
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>wrote a helpful post about INT and STR gains
>forgot how much the bonus is per rank
>delete 1700 character guide
>don't post a reply at all
>watch troll responses giving bad info
>feel bad for the guy asking for help

W-what is the gain again? I thought it was 10% per every rank. 5 points into a stat gives +1 and after 50 it's every 4 and after 100 it's every 3? R-right?
>>
PSA: IMC ANNOUNCED TEMPORARY MAINTENANCE 8:45 EST TO 9:30
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>>122089734
google retard
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MFW MAINTENANCE AGAIN!
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>>122088470

New patch: Bosses have spellcards and all of them must wear hats now
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>>122089415
Yeah, things like this are a step in the right direction.

Mob density, channels and exp curve adjustments to fit gear levels seems like a good step. If the exp curve peaks are put at the gear levels (40, 70, 120, etc.), there should be a decent flow of quests in general at all levels, with the need for grinding picking up around the Level 150+ region.
>>
>>122089678
>video showing off level 200+ people
>to make these videos they most likely do a /levelup command untill they are at the slightly enjoyable levels

A shame that most people who play won't actually get to that point from quitting due to "lrn2grind wow babby" parts.
>>
>>122089673
Story line quests pop up automatically when are the right level. Don't worry about those. They will tell you exactly where to go. Just follow what I said anon, don't be lazy.
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>>122089715
It only really crashes me when fighting Glackuman at Second Prison. Everyone on screen is instantly crashed.

I use it on every other world boss and nothing happens.
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>>122089602
>Wanting to have an entire server of brbarians and narutos
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>>122089873
I'd be able to buckle down and grind if it were in any way a viable option to leveling other than just running instances and hording EXP Cards.
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>>122089918
>caring about what memeclass subhuman pick
>not just playing whatever you like because you need to feel like a special snowflake

end urself
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>>122089554
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>>122089580
>party
>alone
kek
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>>122088470

kek

be glad that bosses don't have pissy boss mode like in RO.
>>
I'm level 120 and have 138 Level 6 exp cards saved up should I use them or should I grind Mage Tower?
>>
>>122089715
My entire group just crashed with that in the 90 dungeon, so yeah.
>>
JUST
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>>122089982
show it against monsters anon, of your level
>>
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19INHom4oQtDS4-qQTMYm9-_XSt3Wqp1pl-ONrwwvDZ4/edit#gid=1735075940


str dex calc
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>>122090001
I made a party though.
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>>122087761
I was in a party with an ele as a thaumaturge once and it seems because of the double hp he couldn't overkill as well if at all with meteor.
>>
>having fun
>maintenance

I'll never have fun again
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>>122089820
xD
>>
And so maintenance claimed the lives of many
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>>122090023
Can't now, but it makes it hit faster and with higher AoE.
It only works well with lv 10+ fireball tho
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>numbers
>hebraic
>oy vey
>thorwing fiery winged wheels on enemies

Best class on best branch. Time to become a cleric who becomes a lituanian priest to become a catholic priest to then become a hindu beggar then a shialin monk then a celtic druid and then accept our true savior Moses.
>>
>Another maintenance
FUCCCCCCCCCCCCK.
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>>122089982
So it makes the fireball an AOE attack? Was this intended as a combo or is it a coincidence?
>>
Anyone wanna trade a Vuvuzella for an Arde dagger on Gabija?
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>>122082334
Cool, now show this on world boss.
>>
Is the Cryomancer master party quest still bugged or can you do it now?
>>
>>122089967
Not him but did you just read what you just wrote. Hipster picking literally is a subset of playing what you like.
>>
>>122090079
>Find qt Thaum with broken engrish
>Having fun
>Suddenly maintenance
>>
What confirmed new classes have we seen so far?
>>
>>122090065
I'm a total noobscrub who cannot overkill. Does lowering the creep's hp to 10% and then hitting it with your strongest attack work or does it only count if you 100-0 it?
>>
i didn't see how long maint is

also what are the odds on it actually being fixed for real this time?
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>>122088816
Even though it's our server they run directly, it still feels like they care about the Korean audience a lot more.
>>
>>122089962
If every monster gave at least 0.2-3% a kill instead of below 0.01% it would be nice.
But then then you get people who will only say shit relating to RO or something about "I remember getting less that 0.001 percent for killing 100 mobs in my day."
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>>122090220
In the trailer?

Swordsman; Templar, Shinobi, Dragoon
Wizard; Warlock and Featherfoot
Cleric; Kabbalist and Plague Doctor
Archer; Musketeer and Cannoneer
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>>122090209
It's probably a hairy fat monkey.
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>>122090251
Nah, instead they're going to remove the Korean runes from the friend list error and leave it broken. Probably going to bring back the dick error, too
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>>122090251
45 mins.

I'd say about 66.66%. Repeating, of course.
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>>122090220
Musqueteer, Cannoneer, Shinobi, Dragoon, Centurion, Murmillo, Kabbalist, Taoist, Shepherd, Mimic, Piedpiper, maybe something else I'm forgetting.
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Who's going to make a Dragoon regardless of how strong it is

I know I am
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>>122090220
Witch Doctor, Mimic, Pied Piper, Army Chaplain, Shepherd, Appraiser, Hackapell, Murmillo, Templar, Musketeer and others.
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>>122089873
Needs more stuff to grind for and better zones. Grinding was at its best mid-late C2 when you wanted to get drops to make the Goat Horns.
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>he went peltasta/rodelero

HAHAHA
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The only reason I got excited for this game is the Shepherd class based from the early trailers. The moment I saw the shepherd and dog, I knew I had to play as one.

Unfortunately, with how things are right now and based on some information floating around the internet, the Shepherd is light-years away in terms of release and in terms of actually unlocking it as a class.

Damn it ;_;
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>>122090347
If the class can has some kind of spear jump, then yeah.
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>>122090289
Those people are retards and literally think that ToS is tailor made for them and is in no way a product that's aiming for mass appeal to generate money.

Shit like Secret World can stay niche all it wants because at least you get a payment out of your player. However if you tell these people that Tree of Savior will just be another dead forgotten MMO they'll turn their heads and say that's perfectly fine.

They literally want a dead game.
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Is the lvl 120 dagger as good as the arde dagger or is the fire damage the whole damage increase?
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>>122090356
Grinding is at its best when you can see your exp bar move even if just a little after killing a mob or two instead of after 100 mobs.
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>>122089873
In the Korean version, they actually level easier than we do because their cards benefit from the rate, too. They also get exp events, and if they keep it like that in release then Korean players will easily see 200+ pretty quickly. Question is if we're ever going to have events and the change to exp cards like Koreans have
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>>122090114
Fireball is an aoe itself, activated by whatever touches the fireball and it seems to be limited to your aoe attack ratio.
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There will be only 10 ranks plus a hidden one right?
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>>122090463
Its better
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>>122090436
Secret World isn't even all that niche. Funcom just sucks at selling their games. Always have.
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>>122090347
What's up with this inane amount of damage? Is this even remotely fun?
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How many more ranks will the Korean open beta add?
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>>122090354
>hackapell
MONGOLIAN LIGHT CAVALRY WHEN
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>>122090394
Damn, I was going for this, at peltasta circle 2 right now.
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>>122090467
Wouldn't an EXP event be something started by like a GM or something? Like the one that log on for 2 minutes at fuckall hours on iCBT? Or is it some kinda of daily event at a certain time?
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>>122090568
go cata
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>>122090465
>0.1% per kill since the 70s
>And it only got worse from there

They need to realise that this isn't 2001 anymore.
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>>122090556
Only one before launch.
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>>122090495
Thank you.
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>>122090436
Every MMO nowadays gets a horde of players on betas and release that won't stay for long.

Why?

Because they are jaded WoW players looking for a fix. Developers know of these players.

They won't stay long. They never stay long. They want to grind to the end as fast as possible and beat the content and say "I did it" and quit instantly.

With ToS they can't do that without a big time investment. So what do they do? Say it's shit and impossible and whine on the forums. That's what WoW players do.

They will play on release. Get to close to 100 and quit because they didn't plan on staying anyway.

No one wishes a dead game or low population. Low population just happens to every MMO after release. It will only take a few months. There is no perfect MMO and ToS isn't perfect. It directly caters to oldfags from RO periods and the player who likes Korean grinds. It is as fucking niche as it can get. It will alienate any WoW player entirely. Why bother catering to a WoW faggot who will quit anyway to go back to his little furry Druid?
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>>122090347

Yes, its the complete realization of Cataphracts.
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>>122090467
if they make it easier for the koreans but leave it harder for westerners, then I KNOW that I died last night and only continue to exist in this one universe where there's one thing obviously off
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>>122090664
10/10. Post it on the forum and tell me how many likes you get.
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So will the cheaters/hacker sbe benevolent people in the next beta after they find a way to reliably dupe EXP cards in the next beta? Since it's fuckall for security because beta at least they could let people who won't grind for 8 hours a day make progress too.
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Really though, how did IMC fuck up Chronomancer so much?

>Let's make a time mage class!
>But give all the cast time/cooldown manipulation skills to other classes.
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/whats-funny-in-grind-10-hours-for-day-for-get-1-lvl-pls-we-need-more-and-more-quest/115913/2
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>>122089967
Reread my post senpai
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>>122083115
I wonder if they really kept up the quality of the adventuring and dungeon-erring in ToS up to their supposed 600 level cap.

This is already more fun than Diablo and RO1 combined.
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>>122090762
>let's make 50 support classes in the wizard tree that can't deal damage at all
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>>122090664
if you think there are enough of you faggots right now to sustain a rather large budget mmorpg you're out of your fucking mind
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How exactly will Rank 9 and 10 classes even work? They'll only get 1-2 circles.
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>>122090603
>% per kill mattering
>not how fast and efficiently you can kill

lol
it takes like 2 hours for a level at 160+, and under an hour before 150, factor in quests / party quest daily exp and you'll hit the current level cap in such a short time for an MMO.

>b-but level 500 cap
They're only slowly increasing the level cap, release probably won't even have lvl 300 cap, kOBT is only confirmed to go up to 260, you'll be able to hit cap before they raise the cap again easily on release.
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>>122090762
More like, all their time skills are 180s and up in cooldown. No point in going them if you only get to use them once in a blue moon.
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Is the maintenance ongoing?
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I finally talked to someone when I did the lvl 50 dungeon with randoms, it was so much fun. Wish the friend list worked and there were guilds.

So I leveled all the way to 61 from 5 runs, till which level should I stay here?
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>>122090770
OP is just being a whiny toxic pissbaby :)
Tree of Cookie Clicker is the best MMO ever and is tailor made for me, I click class master and have to wait 7 minutes such a great experience I get absorbed in the atmosphere! xD
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>>122090891
They're fixing te market and breaking something else.
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>>122090831
you haven't leveled much over 160 if you think it only takes 2 hours / level
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>>122090598
cata a shit
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>>122090891
~42 minutes left
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>>122090762
>Fuck over spellcasters with huge cooldowns
>Give swordsman insane damage skills with overheat and 20 second cooldowns
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>>122090907
70
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Are the servers down? I want to play but I'm gettiing "Cannot connect to server." at the server list.
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>>122090943
It's amazing at c3
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>>122090891
They're gonna fix the market and shout.
But instances and warp statues are going to stop working entirely
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>>122090664
>600 is the cap
>game turns solely grind based before 200
>the grind before 200 is making people quit the game it's so dull
>the only actual audiece to hit 600 are the koerans who literally will play till they die

They could just use slow exp as an excuse to not finish stuff. Sure you can say "but it's beta" but it's also going into open beta soon which is basically saying the game is done.

"If the player can't reach it then we don't have to finish it"
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>>122090950
Is of balance!! :DDDD
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>>122090907
>I finally talked to someone when I did the lvl 50 dungeon with randoms

I don't even talk even in dungeons. ;_;
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>>122090950
play as melee tanking everything you fucking whining faggot
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>>122090930
>They're fixing the market
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Anyone up for some 175 dungeon runs after it's back?
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>>122091004
>>game turns solely grind based before 200

Hey I hadn't realized we had IMC's game designer and producers in this thread.
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>>122091032
Brbarian detected
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>>122091016
Alchemist is amazing. You just chill in town making your potions and people come up and hang with you all day. I made like 5 friends yesterday.
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>>122090950

>please understand xD
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>>122090995
Maybe, but most people won't get to c3 Cata in this beta. Especially with Pelta c2.
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>>122091004
>the only actual audiece to hit 600 are the koerans who get tons of exp events
Fixed that for you.
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>>122090762
They fucked over everything because they're OD'ing in mene.

>Let's make Carve deal the same amount of damage from level 1 to level 15
>But let's amp the SP cost to 90+
>Surely the % chance to get items will be worth it when you can simply fucking buy them and not get screwed by no plants mobs on the area.
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>>122090940
I'm lvl 183/184 or something right now my man.
I levelled up to 164 taking only ~2 hours per level up to that point, then I just used my cards, now quests are carrying me, haven't had to grind once past that point.

People complaining about grind are seriously retarded, hitting 200 in this game is probably easier than hitting 200 in current Maplestory.

Yeah, there's only one channel, yeah, there's not many places to grind, that's a problem, but that doesn't mean the grind is difficult or long at all.
If they ever fix the channel system you'll probably see just how easy it is, having the entire demon prison just to your party is stupidly fast grinding.
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>>122091115
"friends"
they just want free potions/roast out of you
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>>122091115
I'm thinking of making one in open beta. Hopefully it'll help me make money too.
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Anyone know if the open beta in December will include international? Or if there will be a followup?
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>>122090847
Even without the long CDs the skills are kind of ass.

Quicken is only useful for auto attackers.
Slow is a basic skill that enemies have been using since like level 25.
Stop is a glorified stun without the ability to hit the stunned target.
Reincarnate is a gimmick only useful for bosses. Though I'd love to see the attribute proc on Earth Archon just to crash the channel even harder.
Haste barely does anything.
Back Masking does nothing at all.
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>>122091157
On this note, how are the overall "average player level" in comparison with koreans and international players?

If anybody who has played since the start of KCBT and ICBT can compare the speed of the average players and how quick people were levelling
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>>122091223
lies
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TO ANY NON-SWORDSMAN PLAYER:

We should strike. Linkers, don't link for BRbarians, alchemist, don't enhance gems or make pots for Memelanders. Clerics, Krivis, Priests, don't heal or buff Kiritorsairs. Archers, don't play.

We need to let IMC know we are not OK with how underpowered our classes are compared to Swordsmens'. This needs to change now.
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>>122090950
Yeah I agree Corsair is insanely OP.

/tosg/ is in denial about that though
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>>122091157
>tfw you will never be doing quests in the tenet chapel and suddenly blue pawnd/pawndels start raining down and you end up hitting level 60 on accident
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>>122091016
God damn anon, its an mmo!
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>>122091241
that's funny because they insisted on paying when I offered them for free
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Do Koreans get multiple channels after level 50 too?
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>>122091289
lol
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>>122091268
>Reincarnate is a gimmick only useful for bosses
Does it even work on boss? Imagine it only working on normal mobs.
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ATTENTION ALL RO FAGS
GET OUT OF MY GAME
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>>122090995
How so? All i see is skills with long cooldowns and no overheats. Attributes don't really seem any special too. Just don't see the point to go cata except to get 2h spears for hoplite.
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>>122091289
>we should strike
Okay anon, sounds good
>archers should not play
b-but
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>>122091289
>Archers, don't play
kek'd

>>122091290
My Fireball can do like 1,4k tick on mobs in lv90 dungeon and i'm like lv125. I wonder what damage i would do at his lvl.
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>>122090950
BUT I HAVE TO WALK TO MOBS TO HIT THEM Y-YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT'S BALANCED
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What would happen if you cast Quicken on Double Weapon Assault BR/Corsair?
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>>122091094
Its not like I am fucking wrong, fucking retards in /vg/ dont know shit about balance. Go past 130+ with barb and see for yourself if you can facetank everything, fucking shiter


>>122091289
Kill yourself, please. Since you show much lack of attention from people I ll give you this reply
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>>122091004

You never played RO i guess
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/why-tos-isnt-fun/110711
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>>122084806
Man that's nice. They're like priests in a bottle. Tons of hp per 30 sec pop.
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>>122091385
This guy is a paid Korean IMC shill. His shit English confirms it.
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> There are people in /ToSG/ who play as male character
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>>122091289
You forgot my Barbie from that list and I'm offended I'm not on the list of OP classes.
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>>122091289
>Archers, don't play.

:/
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>>122090309
>>122090345
>>122090354
>Rogue is archer tree
>Shinobi is sword tree
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>Wanted to play for an hour before work
>Server down
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>>122091289
>Archers don't play
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How many friends have you guys made? If none, why not?
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>>122091289
I would enjoy breaking you with my 2h leathery greatsword, little supportslut :^)
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>>122091505
Yes i play as male, but only for sorcerer outfit.
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>>122091436
What damage your fireball does depends on the element of the monster.

A lot of people seem to be forgetting there are weaknesses in this game and just post themselves killing the monsters that are the weakest.
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>>122091296
Did that actually happen in kCBT?
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>>122091504
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>>122091505

How else are they supposed to lure their prey?
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>>122091289
Your tears are delicious.
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>>122091490
Spot the brbarian. Game gets difficult after 130, no fucking shit.
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>>122090770
Altought I dont like when I have to rush trough a game's content to progress in a tolerable pace, the way the game is right now is not acceptable.

But them again, I find it stupid 100+ evels in any game, feels like big numbers just for the sake of it. It also doesnt help that at level 160 I feel that my characters is even weaker than when he was around 20.
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Should i give up on my cyro and just go memelander?
memelander looks easier leveling up than any wizard class
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>>122091546
I've never used the chat.
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>>122091490
>implies you must facetank
>>>/trash/
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>>122091385
i like how in spite of broken english and incoherent, incomplete thought structures he's passionate and relentless. Like if fanboyism manifested as a tornado and ripped through some poor african village
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>>122091662
If you want easy levelling play a barb.
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so, what do you think about my damage lines?
sorry for no webm

https://youtu.be/tntH0OUZUVQ?t=31s
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>>122091662
No? You just haven't seen the greatness yet that is a C3 Cryo with a meme dagger and OP rod.

I have and I'm a Barbie. Those spell casters shit out damage like it is nothing later on that puts Swordies to shame.
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>>122091380
Wouldn't surprise me.

>>122091439
C1 Peltasta here
Eat shit, Memelanders
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>>122091662
brbarian > memelander
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>>122091546
Been in the same party for 4/5 days with random people I joined for party quests. Alongside a few people who added me on steam for alch pots.
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>>122091380
If that's the skill that prevents fatal damage, then in my opinion it was very useful during the level 50 dungeon.
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>>122091592
That's actually really crappy system. Meleefags can just easily change their weapon if damage is inadequate, what happens when you are pyro and run into full fire resist mobs?
1 damage 1 damage 1 damage 1 damage whew lads
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/please-stop-announcing-maintainance-5-minutes-before-you-take-the-servers-down/115942
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>>>122091716
Keep implying, fucking faggot. Doesnt make me wrong even a bit.
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>>122091751
Epic.
I can kill it faster with my 156lv Hoplite though.
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>>122091662
Its easy, too easy actually. I dont even know if the other classes are too weak or if these memeswordies are too strong.

Even when people were saying that archer is bad on pve, but it shines on pvp, its bullshiot, the only reason its like that its because no one is making pvp builds.
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Blue gems increase Matk but have a shitty sp penalty, while red ones increase all attack and don't have such a shitty penalty while only having a slightly lower value. Is there any hidden problem with using red gems over blue ones in magic weapons?
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>>122091592
This was damage on shadow element monsters. And i don't even have meme dagger yet.
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>>122091889
As 130 barb you still oneshot overkill any shit you encounter so your point is invalid little supportslut
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>>122091115
all i do is awaken items solo
so ronery ;-;

i keep forgetting to pay the jewmaster and the attributes take ages
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Servers are up
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>>122091990
No you cannot. You can over kill weak, low hp, weak to SLASH monsters. Later on you can't anymore and you will have to bring the monster HP low to over kill at all.

Have fun.
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>items on the market are invisible again

my sides
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>>122091978
You can roast the gem and remove the penalty.
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>>122091223
aka i grinded in demon prison for 3 days when it wasn't much of an option for anyone that came before me and now say 160+ is easy
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>>122092091
It's still better than any meek damage supportwhore can bring :^)
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What's a good class path for a Squire? Thinking about going Peltasta C1 > Holpite C1 > Holpite C2. I want to be more of a tank for my Swordsman class, not so much a damage dealer. I'm playing a lvl 95 Pyro Linker and a Krivis Bokor and it seems tanks and aggro pullers are really useful in both lvl 50 and 90 dungeons I've played so far.
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>>122092018
I wish I had someone to awaken items for me.
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>>122091854
They take servers down unexpectedly in a closed beta? Who would have thought?
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How do II escape this ipf meme
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>>122091834
No different from any other MMO, except that ToS railroads you into grinding against type advantage forever.
>>
Any Priest c2 Paladins know that Smite double hits with sacrament?
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When do you hit C6 again?
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>>122092091
>BAAAWWWWWWWW I HAD TO HIT MOB TWICE TO KILL
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>>122083956
any news on the new classes, post rank 6
i cant find anything besides gook ideograms
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>>122092198
see >>122090347
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>>122092238
Sacrament will give+170 to damage, but no second line
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>>122091834
Melee fags cannot.

As a C3 Barbarian my only options are Slash weapons. There are no 2H hammers and I cannot use spears at all for pierce. I can level thrust from C1 Swordie to do pierce but it's so low it doesn't matter.

Most of my abilities do Smashing damage.

I don't know where you get your meme data from but I'm guessing your own anus.

As a barbarian you are limited to 2H swords, that's it. 1H swords are a direct downgrade no matter what and even if you go sub weapon dagger or something every sub weapon hits for nothing at all so stabbing with those is pointless.
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If I plan on going Pyro, Linker and picking Sorc up at rank 5, should I go Pyro2 or Linker2?

Also what do you even do with the Unbind Linker skill? I don't really see a use for it
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>>122092160
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying, except I didn't even do that, if I did it would have been even easier, I had to grind it out at the bee farm instead which is slower.

And it is easy, the problem is with the game having only one channel, not the grind being hard.
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>>122091423
I saw one doing that spear swing thing and it seemed nice.

>>122091483
Quicken does almost nothing unfortunately.

>>122091546
I made several on the demon prison.

>>122092214
webm
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How do you rotate your characters head while standing? I want to take a few screenshots with the body at an angle but the head facing the screen.
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>>122092296
See what? I don't care how strong Corsair is, I want to be a Squire.
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Forums not even once
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>>122092312
Level 5 link lasts 35s

Say you killed 4/5 mobs and are left with 1 mob you want to link onto another 4 that spawned

If you link that mob again, it will have 2 joint penalty debuffs.

If you hit that target, it will do no linked damage to the new links because the old one takes priority.
Or you can just use it to unlink yourself from asshole teammates.
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>>122092395
the only reason that's doing so much damage is cause he went hoplite, even as a c2 hoplite c2 squire your stabbing + spear lunge is still going to melt bosses.
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>>122092219
>No different from any other MMO
You played some wonderful shit then son, any mmo except probably korean crap does not makes ANYTHING you bring to do fucking 1 damage effectively rendering your class choice useless at these encounters. Either it deals just slightly less but still manageable damage, or you can change elements, or you don't have this cheap mechanic in the first place. This is how proper mmo should be done: you lose some effectiveness or gain some, but you are not fucking useless pile of junk simply because 200 levels ago you chose fire instead of ice.
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>>122092363
sit down and tilt it?
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>>122092501
Oh ok thanks.
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>>122092521
I tried but it snaps back into the direction the character is facing when I stand.
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>>122092501
what about mobs?
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>the only person who sent you a friend request from your party yesterday didn't talk the entire time

For what reason?
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>>122092521
hold alt
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>>122092158
The difference doesn't seem big enough to bother though. I'm really asking if the all-attack increase somehow doesn't actually work with magic even though it says it does, I guess.

How does bonuses work? Things that increase damage against types seem to work on magic, but do aoe increases work on any spells or only on the staff melee attack?

Does the pyro's staff attribute that increases fire property damage only work on melee or does it mean fire spells are stronger or does it mean everything does extra fire damage? Same for enchant fire. Is it melee or everything?
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>>122092578
hold shift
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Would any higher level player mind writing a quick guide on 'how to' in regards to gems?
For example, what would be the best way to upgrade my gems, to what level should I be aiming to upgrade my gems to? There is a "level decrease" when you de-socket an item, and taking into consideration the cost of some of the higher levels for gems, is it better to not invest too much into gems with 120 gear, and simply save everything for 170?

Etc etc
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>>122092501
The absolute madman seems to have gone Swordsman C3 too.
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>>122092501
Gotta min / max for the 5% of the game content amirite senpai?
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>>122092363
Hold shift. Or left alt, I'm not sure.
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>>122092679
Additionally, I have managed to come across a few monster gems, should I be trading these for monster gems of my own class, or is it best to feed them to improve other gems
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>>122092605
hoplite is pretty shit at mobbing, but if you have peltasta you can just aggro all the mobs and destroy them all in seconds.

>>122092691
no, it's peltasta 1 hoplite 2 corsair 2

>>122092710
?
if you can have fun playing a strong build, why not?
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Anyone selling treegool strem?
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Is Syncho Thrusting any good?
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160 or 165 in prison? I'm not sure how much more I can take.
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>>122092612
They are shy, anon.
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/whats-funny-in-grind-10-hours-for-day-for-get-1-lvl-pls-we-need-more-and-more-quest/115913/20
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>>122092797
no
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>>122092501
This is because they haven't implemented weapons for the rest of the Swordsman classes. Mainly 2H. There just isn't weapons available past 120 that are as good as the spears that all give 3x extra attacks and insane skill bonuses like +1 to all your skills while 2H swords are hidden as rare world boss drops that give nothing at all. Even the sword posted a few threads back had really weak physical even at +8 and only like 30 STR bonus.

Itemization is all over the place. I would love to see some good 2H swords being added in later so you Kiritosairs can start crying tears.
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>>122092797
>requires shield

If you can stand not having memedagger
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Servers are back. Shout and Market work again, but the same items that were invisible in market continue to be invisible now.

In other words, it's back how it used to be.
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whats the ideal stat build for archer?
2:1 STR DEX?
or something more specific?
any suggestions? ty
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Hoe long does it take for dungeon to reset? I ended at 2 am before I went to bed
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>>122092808
I left at 165 and now I have to grind 185-186 on shit places. This is with 120 lv7 cards and all level the 8.
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>>122092787
Post build and stats pls, what are the best skills for a Holpite?
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>>122092878
>kiritosairs
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>>122092976
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/ph65schbbb/

Here you go
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>>122092878
Uhh corsair/hoplite can't use the 2h spears that have 3x hits.

This is my current spear and I have to say it's pretty much garbage, barely an upgrade over my grand spontoon, so yeah I agree, there needs to be way more items in the game to choose from.

also the kiritosair build is brbarian, not hoplite.
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Druid player, are you here?

How is the class?
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>>122092958
I have 135 level 7 cards and haven't used any level 8 either.
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is the game up now?
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>>122092976
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/0mm3il6ymj/

i just dump all my points into str and a little into dex, with green gems and like 80 dex you'll have enough crit that getting more wouldn't show any real increase in crit rate.
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>>122093126
It's the only useful class to take if you went diev3 but it's "meh".
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>>122093281
Does it seem to be a class that will get immensely better once circle 2 and 3 come around?
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>>122093363
Absolutely.
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>>122092908
Fine with me.
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>>122093054
That still is a good weapon. It's purple and level 170 and easily obtained.

Show me a level 170 2H that is just as easily obtained. You can't as there simply isn't any in the game.

Just saying.
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Anyone play Cryo+Psyho? Its shitty againts FIREBALL+FLAMEGROUND or fine too?
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>>122092945
Please respond
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>>122093363
This is true about all the Rank 6 classes that don't have C2~3 yet.

This is why Corsairs and Sorcerers look so appealing as they can at least unlock C2 in this beta.
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>how to fix ToS
>swordsman normal attack is now single target
There
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>>122093407
Purple doesn't mean good, just compare the items, the purple lvl 170 gets 2 aoe, like 100 more base attack, 80 less crit damage, double the generic spear medium / large bonus.

It's honestly not easily obtainable either, go ahead and try to find a Chaser spear to make one, if this wasn't a beta I wouldn't even waste my time for that weap cause it's not worth the price, grand spontoon would easily last me until 200.
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>>122093054
>item is literally named "good spear"
>it's shit
>failing to live up to your name this catastrophically
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>>122092501
Think it's worth it to go C3 Hoplite > Fencer?

I know Fencer's a meme class, but I dig the outfit, and at the same time, I love Stabbing too much.
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>>122093506
You do know Wizard, Cleric and Archers can also hit multiple targets with their normal attacks if they get AoE attack right? Fucking retard.
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>million silver item gone from market.
>no long listed as being sold
>item cabinet completely empty
>again

That settles it then. Gonna vendor everything.
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>>122093506
>Spellcasters and archers also have the range of a swordsman.
There, everything is balanced.
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>>122093565
t. never played archer or wizard
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>>122093506
>Have giant 2H sword
>hits only single target
No.

Now if they make Corsairs and their one hand swords and meme daggers normal attack single target then I can agree.
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>>122093506
the nerf everything until we are Aa monsters with wet noodles logic

retard alert
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>>122093548
I don't know anything about fencer except their skills require a rapier and that hoplite skills require a spear.

that alone makes it not worth it for me.
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>New items disappeared from my listing
Oh fuck you.
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>>122093503
Perhaps, however classes like Doppelsoeldner are still useful in their first circle, and deal/provide good damage.
For comparison, if druid was similar to borkor, in that circle 1 is essentially lacking all necessary skills for the class to be actually efficient killing monsters, it would be fair to say some are simply stepping stones whilst others can be viable on their own.
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I'm sure they'll completely destroy thighlanders and BRbarians, you shouldn't worry about that. Rest of the swordsman tree classes are pretty balanced.
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>>122093606
Yes, archers and mages should be melee
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>>122093506
>I don't know what the aoe ratio stat does
>>
ARE PARTIES FIXED
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Just when I think pet AI can't get any worse my temple shooter goes mad and starts killing my skeletons.
This game is so fucking broken.
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>>122093456
Yes, I have both cryopsycho and firelinker and I must say the difference is day and night.
You don't have to run around waiting them die, you just box yourself in ice wall, pressure it and anything within screen dies. You can KS barbkeks easily with fast and insane damage of pressure. You can troll and even PK people with telekinesis. Compared to that pyrolinker is crap.
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>>122093363
No, why?

I mean they have three spells who are useful, chrosmata, carnivore and the barrier. Most class get 4 spells at the start, so the 4th is probably transform. Then at C2 they'll probably move the transform without target to C2, maybe one new spell. C3 will have the amazing mind control (lmao) and another spell.

Seriously going druid is retarded af.
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>>122093728
Thighlanders thighs are a miracle of the universe. Don't bully. We only provide easier leveling but not as broken as Barbs.
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>>122093838
Your thighs will not save you from your fate!
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>>122093782
Well what did you expected you slut? Your thighs belong to your demon, and then he sees this new skeletal competition, of course he's mad.
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>>122093795
What class did you take after cryo psycho?
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gaba 90dg anyone? If not I go with brazil
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>>122093679
Only Stabbing and Pierce carry over because they can be used with a Rapier, yeah.

What makes me wonder that is because there's an attribute for Stabbing that increases Evasion as well, and most of the Fencer attacks are Pierce.

I might test the feasibility of it in OBT or the next CBT, but I've been too busy to level properly this time. Won't get anywhere near Rank 6.
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>>122093535
>It's honestly not easily obtainable either
It is. I can walk up to the market and buy one right now. For the recipe parts I could spend an hour to get them, that's it. I also have the recipe in my warehouse as a random drop right now.

You failed to see my point. There isn't 2H swords of that caliber in the game at all. Grand Spontoon is also a great example of a cheap chest weapon that can last you the entire beta, however there isn't one like that for Barbarians. Flamini is utter rubbish. Collecture is a joke and just an ingredient.

Most of the 2H recipies listed in Tosbase don't even exist in the game at all. They are just datamined / obtained from the kCBT. Just click on any in the last few pages (sorted by req. level) and you will see there is no monsters listed as to where they drop.

2H swords also seem to be lacking in stats as we can't even use a 2nd sub weapon or shield for more gems / stats. There is a clear itemization problem here.
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ok now its saying my ipf files are damaged. and the usual work around isnt working.
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>>122094032
Haven't decided yet but aiming for necro. Wall+pressure stays actual towards very end even with 1 rank of both cryo and psycho since meme dagger adds damage to EACH shard.
Probably linker and then necro.
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In Namu Temple Ruins, where's the exit to Istora Ruins? I can't find it for some reason.
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So, I'm squire now. What skills do I invest? Do I need more than 1 in arrest? How much do I need to invest in repair to be usefull?
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>>122085905
But the he did daid that the game has glaring problems, though.

If I understood correctly, he's saying that the game has problems, but "not being (like) RO" is not one
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>>122093704
>Doppelsoeldner
I am a Doppel. Our spin is great damage, but long cooldown of over 50 seconds. If you max that out you cannot max another skill. It's great, but I've seen a Druid cast his flower bed and it does comparable damage as my spin in a bigger AoE.
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>>122094179
>it doesnt say where they drop so they must not drop
Maybe you should explore a bit more
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Think server just crashed
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>market ate 250k while I was sleeping
t-thanks imc
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>>122087135
>Linker: The only skill not at max is joint penalty because you get 5 links at lv4
I got a Joint Penality monster gem, so mine is lv5
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>healer
>can't find party
>everyone wants dps
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>>122094498
Level?
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>>122094185
anyone else? just me?
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>>122094498
>being a dedicated support class in a game that let's everyone scale in such a way that they have no problem soloing anything
lol
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>>122094575
Just verify game integrity on steam
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Was the bug report button always there?
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>>122094179
>There is a clear itemization problem here.

Yeah, and it's not just 2h swords, which is what I'm saying, that spear is shit, relative to the price of it, I could just save myself a couple million and not use it because it's not worth using, maybe if you go hoplite 3 and make a spear throw build it'd be decent but for my build it's not good at all.

Also, you have lapis katzbalger for your op as shit level 75 weapon, you can use that forever, just like I can use my grand spontoon forever.
Honestly feels like they just stopped creating items after lvl 75 cause everything past that is the same with minor increase in stats or just straight up worse.

And if the chaser spear for that recipe is so easily obtainable, feel free to share, cause I couldn't even figure out where they come from, letalone actually get one.
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>>122094620
did that already
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>>122087653
Spirit doesn't reduce cooldown
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>tfw passing an EXP barrier level
Just skinner box my shit up
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Is IPF fixed? I'm not getting it anymore.
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Does the 200 boss needs to be summoned?
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>>122094358
Click recipe. No monster listed.

Maybe you should stop acting retarded.
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>>122094498
you wot mate. having 2 priests is redundant, but finding dps is much easier.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knf1hdohjrw
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>Remove rodelero, change fencer to rank 4 and make centurion rank 6 again
yes/no

>>122094679
Im not getting it either, i think its fixed
And it was because of a fucking 5 minutes market maintenance
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>>122094637
>Honestly feels like they just stopped creating items after lvl 75 cause everything past that is the same with minor increase in stats
Well then we both actually agree. I just seems to be worse for 2H swords than it is for spears at this moment.
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So does Memelander synergizes well with any other class? BRbarian seems to be the way to go if you want to be a Corsair, and Holpite/Cataphract seem to be their own thing.
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>>122094759

>11 Class levels unspent
>12 Stat points unspent
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>>122094858
No, it's purely a leveling class to get you to mid game quick.
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>>122094965
>BR
What did you expect?
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>>122094612
I'm not dedicated. The other healers aren't either, they're all going to be monk.

>>122094543
56
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Holy shit Sadhu is amazing.
I think when this game comes out I go full masochist with Cleric c3 > Sadhu c2 > Druid
With Safety Zone and Fade constantly up I can shit out damage without taken any.
Probably have to put points into Dex so I can shit out better damage with my mace since heal and cure in the beginning is pretty lackluster. After that have to invest money for a stat reset scroll.
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>>122094858
you need 2h swords to get crit damage attribute, so br and dopel
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So.

Who /cute/ here?
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>>122095057
What is a good Saddhu build right now? Someone told me to go Cleric > Krivis > Krivis > Saddhu > Saddhu > Druid but I think I might've been meme'd as he told me to stack INT.
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Does anyone know if this haistyle is already in the korean verson?

Its on this character creator, so
http://www.tree-of-savior.fr/simulateur-de-personnage/
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>>122095056
>56
Good luck anon! Sorry I can't join you, but 50 was probably the best time I've had in the game. Try to find someone fun to play with.
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>>122095129
ERP fags get out
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>>122094745
There are plenty of those that drop from dungeons and world bosses, quit acting retarded.
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>>122094740
goddammit this thread is so uselless
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>>122095057
>>122095148
I'm planning on Cleric -> Priest C2 -> Sadhu C3.

Cleric is quite painful to level even if Heal does a shitload of damage. The Priest buffs help a really fucking lot. No idea about Krivis though.
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>>122095129
me
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>>122095057
Cleric C2 > Krivis C1 > Sadhu C3 or C2 and a C1 Druid seems to give the best results. Your Krivis can buff your Sadhu's auto attacks
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Can someone help me test the repeatable party quests?
I'm trying to figure out how rewards work.

I The first one I got a hat which I figured I had to complete for the other rewards to unlock, then 3 lv8 exp cards.
But now after 5 rerolls all I'm getting is silver, i'm trying to figure out if the rewards are set or if I'm just really unlucky.
We need a larger sample size which is why I'm asking if anyone's willing to try on their end as well.
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Anybody willing to sell me a katzbalger recipe? Zemnya
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Is fireball + icewall anywhere comparable to psychic pressure?
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http://www.tosbase.com/database/quests/17016/

where is this quest exactly?
please respond
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>all wizards classes past Rank 4 are either shadow/demon/blood based or utility

What do I do after Elementalist C3 for a traditional mage? Go back to fucking Pyro/Cryo/Wizard?
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>>122092771
>>122092679
Anybody?
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>>122093795
>You don't have to run around waiting them die
>icewall
>cooldown: 65s
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>>122095549
Talk to the table.
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>>122095565
Pressure decimates everything in melee range actually.
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>>122088470
>Dev 3 - Sir, that would make each boss fight last more than ten minutes for a wizard.
>Dev 1 - Should've rolled swordsman.
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>>122095557
Go Thau and start gettin swole son
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>>122095481
What level for party quest and what server
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>>122095296
I have no problems leveling as the pet can carry me easily to level 100. But now you're giving me a third build so I have no fucking clue what is a good Saddhu build.

Krivis gives critical attack, but not crit rate so I'd imagine I'd need hardcore gems or DEX build to hit with that and Priest buffs seem good with Saddhu hitting a lot and Cleric seems good too for extra shields and fade so......

fuck
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>See Arde Dagger on Market for 1m
>Sell one of my extras for 800k
>Immediately sold

It's gonna go up on the Market for another 1m in like 2 minutes isnt it?
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>>122095604
theres a million tables
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>>122095761
better get started
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>>122095546

why not take both?

They nerfed the fireball + pp combo (pp now pushs the fireball away after some hits) but u can trap the ball with your icewall and create your own bullet hell spell!
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Is the Red Devil Wing recipe a guaranteed drop?
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>>122095756
Do you even jew
>>
>>122095756
Probably

some people play the jew when they play games like these
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>>122094498
You are that sadhu at 90 dg right? I'm just too lazy to make parties since I get my ass invited to parties as 'tank' anyways
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Archers would be amazing if their base damage came from dex instead of str.

Its something other games do right, I guess.
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>>122095741
You can do it by yourself.
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>>122095935
No one's base damage comes from DEX.
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>>122095815
that what i was thinking, but i'd rather hear from someone first before doing another wizard.
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>>122095839
Pls respond.
>>
how are you supposed to do the quest in forest of prayer where the teleport statue gets constricted by vines and mobs come?
the mobs just ignore me and wail on the statue and i fail the quest no matter what
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Do any Paladin skills scale off INT?
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>>122095756
Fool and his money are easily parted.
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>>122095749
Isn't the pet really fucking expensive though?

Anyway, it seems that everything works with Sadhu. I'd say that Priest or Cleric builds seem easier to build because you don't need INT, just SPR and maybe STR or CON to tank a bit more or kill faster before getting to Sadhu.

With Priest and Cleric you will have to kill with autoattack mostly and use Heal whenever it's up.
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>>122095992
Yes, in ToS, its just something common for archers in a variety of other games.

But them again, all kinds of possibilites when it comes from this game, since there are even skills with damage that scales with SPR.
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>>122090002
Good times.
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>>122095393
How does Krivis buff the auto attack damage of Sadhu? OoB is a complete magical attack based on your INT. Divine Stigma scales really poorly in the later game so it's pretty much a dead skill.
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Where is the 90 dungeon?
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>>122096272
Zachariel Crossroads, where the Zemyna statue is
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>>122096317
Bless you
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Anyone on Zemyna have timers for any of the bosses?
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>>122095839
>>122096009
Please respond.
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>>122090005
HALP! I want to pop them all and get to C5 but I don't know if thats a good idea or not.
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>>122096249

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObfMYKkJOQI
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Reposting to warn would be pardoners away from hell.

Things pardoner needs fixed:
>Pardoner: Donation
It does literally nothing. Toggled on or off, no damage of any skill changes. I had a feeling it increased the capacity of the box but after raising it another 10 levels, no change was made to the damage of indulgentia through the Oblation attribute
>simony
The fact that they cut down what skills you can craft to such a pitiable amount just guts every reason someone would have for wanting to play this class. Alchemists, Squires and fletchers still have their core fun stuff that go with being a vending support class but pardoner gets the shaft. Literally no skills other than daino, zalciai and cure can be crafted through my build and a priest build would only include one of their two damage buffs on top of it. It doesnt even seem like any other sector in cleric would have a skill crafted onto a scroll either
>Spell shop
Needing a skill that takes reagents is mind boggling as to why this is even in pardoner in the first place. Give it to priest. We dont need it.
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>Pyro C1 > Linker C1
or
>Pyro C2 > Linker C1
?
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>>122094621
Yes. Ironically, the button is missing most of the time.
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>>122096562
THe answer is always grind
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>Gives Highlander a skill that can deal additional damage to enemies with piercing attacks
>Highlander has no piercing attacks
>Highlander has several skills that deal addtional damage to bleeding enemies
>Highlander has no skills that reliably add bleeding

why
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>>122096674
it is missing depending on what input mode you use
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Just a little bit longer to Doppel.
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Anyone went psycho c3?

How is it?
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>>122095749
Going Krivis will ease your leveling experience but you will lose alot of self protection later on as a Sadhu. You will be forced remove from OoB when you take a hit so you have to make sure you stay invisible & invincible the whole time.
At Cleric c3 your Saftey Zone can take 30 hits in 20 seconds and Fade has a duration of 30 seconds. Which means as soon as one skill will end its duration, you can cast the other skill and stay in OoB.
But until you hit Sadhu, leveling will be a pain since you have to count on your weak auto attacks.
Also lvl 15 cure is one of the strongest attacks later on since it scales with INT, which you should have alot as a Sadhu.
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best gem to put on my memedagger? i'm cryo/psycho.
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>>122096721
Crosscut is your bleed skill, the skill text is wrong.
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>>122096667
>Pyro C1 > Linker C1 > Pyro C2 > Pyro C3/Sorc C1
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>>122090664
>It directly caters to oldfags from RO periods and the player who likes Korean grinds
Then I go look at the forum
>RO doesn have quests
>not grind since lv1
>this game is shit, it should use x like RO

I don't think they are "cated" right now
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>>122096667
pyro link pyro?
Just max fireball and attribute for killing bosses
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Will be trying out the 130 dungeon for the first time but just curious, what do you get from it? Another memedagger or ??
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>>122096721
>Gives Highlander a skill that can deal additional damage to enemies with piercing attacks
What?
>>
>>122090762
>is a time mage
>has gigantic cooldown
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>>122094162
Considering the star of the Hoplite show is Finestra, I'm not sure it's worth doing Fencer and missing out on that one.
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>>122096372
Kereberos in 10min
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>>122096660
Hey mate, tell us more please. What spells can you craft, and what you can't? it depends on Skill level? About scrolls? About shop? pls
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>>122097156
Talt
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>>122097156
Talt and more Talk and also Talt
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Curious, doppel skills apply on all weapons right?
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>>122093795
>pyrolinker
>best group utility in game
>crap

Linker automatically gives you a not-crap pass. Quarrel Shooter or Rodelero, now, that is 100% crap.
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so I'm level 150 and have 150+ saved up lvl 7 scrolls. heard you also get a bunch of lvl 8 scrolls. at what point should i be using them all up to skip the horrible grind that is 165+
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Okay, so after about an hour of testing and rerolling I came to the conclusion.
Quest rewards are pre-determined, you can reroll all you want you won't get a different reward until you complete the current quest.
Out of 5 missions I got silver once, 3 exp cards once and hats three times.
So I guess it's all just luck and no patterns.
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>>122097372
165
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>start a potion delivery service using shout
>hire friends as delivery employees
>all have a blast meeting people

Holy shit how comfy does this game get
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is Party dead again?
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>>122097365
>Beta almost over
>Thinking about C3 Hop at rank 5
>Might go Rodelero instead and quit right after
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Are Doppel/Fencer anons lurking in here?

What's the next good levelling spot after the 177-178 range?

Does it finally stop being SUFFERING once you reach 18x? Please tell me the ride gets easier from here on. All the guides I read seemed to suggest that beyond 17x is just bliss and questing to 200, but I find it hard to believe.
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>>122097253
how much is Kereberos resp time?
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>>122097151
>and attribute for killing bosses

?
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>>122097350
if it doesn't specify a weapon it's usable with all of them
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>Cleric C1 > Krivis C1 > Bokor C2 > Monk C2

Tell me why this isn't the best damage dealing build for Cleric
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>>122097165
Crossguard. Not sure if it works with all Piercing attacks but Thrust deals 1 extra hit for a couple seconds if you guard successfully.

>>122096721
>>Highlander has no skills that reliably add bleeding
Crosscut, 2 overheat, 20-ish second cooldown.
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>Squire with a 6 hour cooldown on Base Camp.

Holy shit its horrihble, Is this DnD, with a skill I can only use once a day?
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>>122097607
i mean linker does jack shit against bosses, fireball + burn damage is best thing pyro has against bosses by far.
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Most of these problems will be immediately solved if they just put a few extra channels into demon prison and dina bee
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>finally get to prison
>grind for an hour
>60%
I'm supposed to stay here for 20 levels? Fuck off, I'm out.
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>>122097031
You can go back classes?

The description text say you can't.
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>>122097680
Have you seen maxed Blessing+Sacrament with Monk?
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I am getting random disconnects from klaipeda ch1, yet it doesn't seem to be crashing, wtf?
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>>122097717
At least in dnd you could piss a day away if your group wanted.
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>>122097775
>burn damage

The fireball attribute? It's shit. The dmage is small and it adds 8 fucking seconds to the cd. Thats an increase of over 50%. It tanks your dps.
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>>122097851
Only useful in the early levels. Endgame Priest skills are pretty useless since they don't stack with anything.
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>>122097935
>I have no idea what I'm talking about
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>>122097935
But that's wrong.
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>>122095206
Thanks! :3
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>>122098029
Blessing and Sacrament gives you +200 flat damage with every attack. Later on when your auto attacks do over 2000 damage you still get only +200 damage with Blessing and Sacrament.
It's useless, Nii-san.
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>>122097905
burn ignores armor/resistance, which is great on bosses and higher level mobs
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Why am I level 120 and still don't have Zachariel Bangle? Why?
I don't have the recipe and I fought Bearkaras many times already and he never drops Bearkaras fragment.
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>>122098235
>I have no idea what I'm talking about
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>>122098235
that's 10% of damage. How's 10% of damage useless?
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>>122098272
It's shit m8.
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Will pay someone to create a table, showing all gems and their stat increases up to level 5.
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>>122098281
He's not wrong though. Whether you consider the extra damage worth it or not is up to you
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>>122098291
When you have to waste 2 classes for only 10% more damage while other classes add way more utility.
Priest is a meme class which should be ignored.
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Are you ToS GM yet anons?
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>>122098483
>he

Nice try fag.
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>>122098380
it's not m8, i've killed things that were taking 1 damage from any of my spells entirely from burn damage of 1 fireball + link
against things that die without butn you don't need shorter cd.
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>>122097542
you might have to grind out one or 2 levels but mostly quests will just take you to cap after that
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>>122098491
>more utility
>zaibas useless on non int
>zalciai not scaling
>daino can easily be replaced by scrolls
>zombies
>KEK

get fucked turboshitter
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>>122098491
What utility does bokor add, exactly? Just asking because I'm krivis c1 bokor c2 at level 120 right now and it almost feels like bokor has been useless for me. I'm probably doing something wrong.
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>>122098542
Reply to both and I'll make a webm proving that there's only one (You)
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>>122098279
Please respond, where and when did you guys get the recipe and bearkaras fragment? This is driving me nuts.
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>>122098637
(You) really doesn't mean anything, considering editing text into a webpage takes 0 effort.
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>>122098548
It's shit m8. It deals no damage.
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>>122098492
I bet he means Gay Male
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>>122098736
You missed the quest because your level was too low.
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>>122098747
I'll even refresh the page, I won't mess with the html
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So Wiz 3 is apparently very good at PvP
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>saddhu
>int

why? doesn't saddhu shoot out attacks like a fucking crazy machine gun? why wouldn't I just go full DEX for crits or does it not crit?

I'm total noob to the class I'm just theorizing.
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>>122098848
if it is magic it doesn't crit.
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>>122098832
Why? Because of Reflect shield?
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>>122098235
>auto attacks
>not using multi hit skills for blessing to add thousands of extra damage
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how much for Trident recipe?
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>>122098631
Always depends which class you wanna go with.
For example my Sadhu class needs 100% OoB uptime so Cleric c3 is in need. Priest will have no meaning for Sadhu.

>>122098632
Yeah, you probably are.
Bwa Kamiyan is one of the strongest skills out there. You just need alot of Zombies.
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>>122098235
blessing + corsair / fencer = rape
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>>122098907
wait, saddhu damage isn't physical? it looks like they are hitting them

please be as elaborate as you can with your response.

I'm already in captcha hell so I can't ask questions without having to pick out 30 sign posts off of blurry google street images
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>>122098989
His progression path was for monk.
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>>122098736
I think the quest was at the 4th floor room right before 5f mausoleum's entrance
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>>122098848
Sadhu's OoB auto attacks are completely INT based and it's magic. And magic doesn't crit but also doesn't miss.

>>122098631
By your shit logic, Blessing and Sacrament can also be made into scrolls.
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>>122099032
Faggot, it'S maggic. It doesn't crit and never will.
You use a ground buff or anything and go with your ghost into it an get a damage boost due to a bug.

>>122099098
>By your shit logic, Blessing and Sacrament can also be made into scrolls.

Not possible anymore.
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it seems to me that its much cheaper to +7 a level 40 weapon than to +5 a level 75 one, and get the same relative attack power
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>>122099098
>By your shit logic, Blessing and Sacrament can also be made into scrolls.


Retarded shitter confirmed that he has no clue what he's talking about. KEK
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Is anyone running the 175 dungeon at all?
I'm sitting here with my cock out and no idea what to do otherwise.
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>>122099032
Out of Body will be scaled of your Magic Attack and INT. Meaning if you go Sadhu equip a rod, not a mace. This will give you more damage.
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>>122098938
Quick cast, Magic Missile and Surespell.
Reflect Shiel and Sleep.
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>>122098989
Bwa kayiman hits for about 400-600 damage a hit, and attacks as slow or slower than autoattacks. It's only useful for giant groups of enemies and its completely useless for bosses. Most classes still run circles around me even while grinding, because it takes time to get enough zombies set up and then they eventually die.
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>>122099248
yea, it's not hard to solo/duo btw
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>>122099248
Shout for it, nobody waits outside unless they have a party already.
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>>122099243
It's your failed class which you have to reroll. I'm just giving you a warning here that you shouldn't waste your time on Priest.
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>>122099363
Have fun with your crap build turboshitter. You already proved twice that you have no idea how this game works.

Get fucked nigretto.
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>>122099283
I hear Surespell is broken and doesn't actually work.
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The only good thing about being a Chronomancer is that you can show off to everyone your big heavy clock
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>>122099435
It does, but obviously doesn't when you are knocked back.
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wait, so can you only complete 5 party quests per day? If I get a hat, I miss out on 3 exp cards?
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>>122098626
It might seems that way, but the math doesn't work out.

There are quests to do at 177, 178, 180, 181, 183, 184, 186, and 187. Still, there's an awful lot of gaps in there, and even for the levels with quests, they only give about 75% of your total EXP bar, so you do have a considerable amount of grinding before you get to the reset at 186.

What I am asking is: Where are people grinding at to fill those gaps?
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>>122099252
Thank you.

Would you recommend going C3 cleric for Saddhu build or C2 Krivis? Krivis damage seems amazing and the buffs are good but C3 cleric looks to directly to help your Saddhu build plus you'll be a good healer in any dungeon with heal so high and all.

Blessing seems fine for early game but I can't see it being that useful very late, so I'm not going priest.

Diev looks insane with Owl totems. I've seen people use Owl totems to AFK farm Demon Prison, solo, for like 2.4 million exp / hour
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How can I check gems and their levels + exp requirements?
There are no tables or websites out there with any information
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>>122097542
I'm doppel. I grinded at verkti square till 187 and quests took me to 193. The rest is just easy levels, but most of the maps have high hp mobs so soloing might take longer.
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>>122099319
It isn't?
What classes can do it most easily?
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>>122099420
To each his own, I guess.
I already know that my Cleric > Sadhu > Druid roll will be amazing and shit out a ton of damage while not getting hit at all.
I have 2 utility skills which will make me invincible and one which will make me invisible so OoB will have a 100% uptime. Also Druid has the strongest skill of all classes so I will have no problem in huge mobs and also crush bosses like they're nothing.
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>>122099693
BR+healer
pyro/cryo+healer
no healer and you have to sit around, nothing hits very hard and there aren't many monsters
it only gives about 20% exp
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>>122099698
>Cleric > Sadhu > Druid

Thats a standard burster spec you retarded faggot.

>>122097680
Is talking about
>Cleric C1 > Krivis C1 > Bokor C2 > Monk C2
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>>122099579
C2 Cleric is more than enough, fade lasts 20 seconds, shield lasts 20 as well, both have 40 second cooldown, you can use one every 20 seconds meaning you're pretty much invinsible forever as long as you have the MP to keep casting them one after the other.
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>>122099760
20% with a full party?
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>>122099873
I got 20% with 3 people
exp/monster is god but it's a really small dungeon
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>>122099689
>Verkti Square

That map is a nightmare. It feels slower than Mushrooms, and it consumes tons of potions, and you die a lot in there too. I am doing Anchors right now, and while it's not much better, it's a lot less stressful. Also, are you implying that you quested to 193 without any grinding whatsoever? How does that work? The math just isn't there. None of those quests gives enough even for a full level.
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>>122099579
see
>>122099698
As I explained already, you will leave OoB when you get hit so your main priority will be not to get hit. Easy as that. For that you need Safety Zone and Fade. When Safety Zone is up and close to end its duration, cast Fade. As soon as Fade goes into Cooldown, cast Safety Zone. Nothing will hit you anymore (besides those pesty boss moves which knock you over even if you don't take any damage)
Also Cure will hit like a truck later in the game thanks to its INT scaling.

>>122099798
>Thats a standard burster spec you retarded faggot.
Not everyone wants to be a useless special snowflake who's not getting any party invites for dungeons.
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>>122099998
exp resets at 186 right? so grind over the hump and quests will start giving you more than a level
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When's bosses?
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>>122100009
why do you have to post fucking shitty animu reaction images to taint your otherwise helpful posts?

don't give me the bullshit response of we're on 4chan so we all have to act like obnoxious weaboo's or little loli girls

just stop this now anon, you're embarrassing
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>chronomancers are shit

you just gotta be patient, guys. your time will come. who know what might happen in the future. time is on your side!
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Anyone have the EXP chart handy
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>>122100009
>Druid
>Useful for parties
>Not a special snowflake class
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Alright, as things stand now i am thinking of following for release:
1) Cryo c3>Sorc>Chem
2) S3>Barb3(Barb 1>cors2)>Shinobi
3) QS>Sapper>SR
4) A1>Ranger 3> Rogue.
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>>122099963
Well I went in by myself.
Always nice to see stuff weak to pierce and the exp is pretty decent but I wonder if I can survive the whole thing alone.
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>>122100218
Anon, we're on 4chan.
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how come my seal of space wont work with the monument at demon prison 1?
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>>122100218
>just stop this now anon, you're embarrassing
Self awareness much?
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>>122099817

reported to imc for game-breaking
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>>122099501
175 dungeon runs give you an extra 50% or so a day, and once you hit 186 you're basically done
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>>122100009
What are you going to go for instead of Cleric C3 going to Sadhu? After reading the thread I'm starting to think that Cleric > Krivis C2 > Sadhu will be a bit gimped later on with the lack of Fade.

>>122100218
Have a (You).
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>>122100280
Druid seems fun.

Other classes seem boring.

I would go Druid.
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>>122099698
>>122100009
You know someone is already mad and/or losing an internet argument when they start posting smug anime reaction images.
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>>122099998
It was either 192 or 193 without any grinding, not sure because I hit 200 last week. I grinded with almost full dex so I rarely used any hp pots.
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>>122100280
So are you calling every DPS who only shits out damage a special snowflake class?

>>122100218
This your forst time here?
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>>122100287
>QS to sapper

No. Absolutely not. If you go sapper, you go archer c2 for the 25% crit bonus and more oblique/multishot.
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>more 10 levels than boss
>still can't kill it within 1 minute
when will archer class can kill boss easily?
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How do I get across the gap in Royal Mausoleum Contructor's Chapel lads? Speed buff doesnt last long enough to jump it.
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>>122086960

Hoplite:

You have to use Swash Buckling to aggro the mobs, then block their initial damage and then proceed to deal damage to keep aggro on them. Once they are correctly aligned, you can just destroy them with Stabbing/Pierce too.

But yeah, the important thing is keeping the aggro on the mobs so you don't lose control of the situation.
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>sacrificing Monstrance/Zalciai interaction that doubles your damage for more time invuln
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>>122097156
amulet recipe that +8 to all stats.
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I'm going to go krivis c1, bokor c2, monk c1, druid c1, am I retarded?
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>>122100287
QS is a big NO
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>>122100427
I'm pretty much set to suffer through Cleric c3 but if you want another approach, maybe go Krivis. Heard Zalciai buffs your OoB damage alot in the early stages. It also scales with SPR so if you're into SPR, go with that.
But you should atleast get Cleric c2 for Fade. It's pretty much the only reason Fade exists.
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>>122100495
The reasoning for QS is spike traps. You are able to use them while mounted and they do decent damage. Im planning on achieveng crit rate using dex/gear.
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>>122100540
You can't tank anything later on since magic damage rapes your face. Even if you have full con. And if you do have full con you don't deal as much damage at all.
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I found out I can brew some pots while I let my summon take care of the item awakening dungeons

Sorc > Alch is good stuff
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>>122100419
That's a lie and you know it. I did it at 175 and it gave me under 40%.

Basically, I am now stuck at getting less than 1 level per day, because the only way to progress now is to do the dungeon twice a day?

That's somehow even worse than before. At least during 16x I could put in the effort and maybe get a level and half every day.
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>die after the boss cause adds were hitting me during slowmo
>nothing drops

nice game
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>>122100515
find a c2 chronomancer
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>>122100629
To you too>>122100706
And i do know it is going to be a huge pain in the ass levelling that shit up.
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>>122100560
It's only useful if you invest points in SPR and who does that?
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>>122100745
Neat.
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>>122100772
you can also, you know, play the game. I hear you can level that way
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>monster stops moving
>keep hitting it
>suddenly drop to 10% hp
>frozen for 8 seconds
>see "Ice Spike"

Just become aware that the 180 maps can be like this or Lizardmen times 10.
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>>122100772
No, git gud and do it with 3/4 people, you will get more exp.

And just play the fucking game, you can either grind or afk and do dungeon, your choice.
>muh grind is too hard
your own fault for fucking up your build
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>be new kiritosair switching to dualwield after lifetime of 2H barblord
>test my new chopchopchop attackspeed on about 3 mobs
>scumbag cataphract charges in out of nowhere and destroys them
>play it cool, never been the type to ks others
>stalk him from a safe-ish distance for a while
>he gathers a huge wave
>charge right in and seism twice overkilling everything
>hold shift and spam down arrowkey next to him
>YOU HAVE AWAKENED A POWERFUL DEMON TODAY
>feelsgoodman
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>>122100954
>barb corsair
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>>122100745
the formula on the forums for # waves seems way off for me
like a white 3 star is 6 waves not 15 (5*3<stars>*1<quality>)
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>>122097254
>Can craft
Sacriment, cure, zalciai, daino, aurakus

>Cant craft
Literally anything else

>skill level
Increases the potency of the scroll, thats it

>about scrolls
Dispeller is great, the rest are mediocre and are the same cooldown as my normal spells

>shop
Literally useless unless you went priest pardoner. If your buff doesnt require reagents, you cant sell the buff
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Is it possible to browse for gems on the marketplace?
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>Cat with literally 10hp afk in owls
>swash buckle and fight on top of him, he is ded
>feel bad, notice BR in name. Proceed without fucks
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>>122098492
Everyone was a GM in one of the 2 million pirate servers.
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Why is the game so buggy, why does it lack basic features like keybinds menu, UI customization, proper fullscreen mode and why doesn't it use more than one CPU core?
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>not_even_my_final_form.jpg

>>122100467
That's just not possible. To get from 177 to 192/193, you'd need like, twice the cards that you get from the quests between those ranges.

>>122100875
>>122100928
Getting burned like this hurts because I know that if I had saved up my cards properly, I'd be 200 for a while already now.

I've come too far to stop now. Gotta take this shitty character all the way to the end.
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Where do i grind these few lvls from 127 to 130?
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>Dievdirbys Bugs while carving statues. It is a biggest bug at this point, and we're trying best effort to figure out it ASAP. (New)
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>>122101257
Why would you level Plate Mastery as a Corsair? Only Monks benefit from the extra Stamina. You should have gone full Leather Mastery.
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>>122101251
Because Koreans only know how to design a cash shop.
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>>122101365
Main chamber quests exp cards, and then grind like shit. I got to 124 without cards left too and finally got to 133 after days of shit grind. Prepare your anus, depends on your class I guess.
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>>122101119
So i cant just go and buy sacrament+blessing MaxLVL and crush everything, you mean?
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>>122100009
Fade is amazing, but Cleric 3 is quite painful to level alone because flying mobs. On the other hand it's extremely good support, it just sucks everyone kicks us for priests because Cleric C2+ is underrated as fuck. I've had a much better time supporting as cleric than priest so far. You can pretty much fade anytime, go into a huge mass of mobs and safety zone unscathed. Cure is no zaibas by any means but it's pretty good once you get the interval reduction attribute in C2.
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>>122101387
Double Weapon Assault uses stamina but I think he's planning on fucking his build up even further so idk
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>>122101393
But come on, this is 2015. Some things are just pants-on-head retarded such as alt+tab cycling between chat modes.
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>>122101387
My build wasn't retarded enough. Also, I only use 3 pieces of plate, since gloves are Vubbe Fighter. I do it for the HP.
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Any Psychokino's available on the HUEHUE server?
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>>122100903
fuck ice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zIW0629PUo
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>>122099070
Thanks. Got the missing parts now.
Bearkaras fragment from 4th floor and the recipe from 1st floor.
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>>122101537
You can get up to level 10 unattributed sacrament and buy the blessing buff from the spell shop if hes a priest. Thats it.
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Why aren't there any Thaumaturges? Seriously your buffs boost my crits from 2k to 3k easily. Your damage applies at the base of our damage. You are the best support in the game. You can also make us gain 2x exp from mobbing.

Why aren't there more of you beauties? I saw ONE in my dozens of 130 dungeon runs and that run was amazing.
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>>122100696
Is it worth giving up Krivis C2 to go back to another Cleric rank? I know I'd have to give up the Zaibas splash for Fade.
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>>122101979
Right here lad.
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>grinding in demon prison f2 lvl 150
>2 hours 60% exp

this can't really be the best place to grind right?
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>>122101257
187, not 177. I grinded at verkti square from 172-187 and did the quests in between since I didn't save my cards beforehand. The grind after those new quests is pretty quick regardless. Took me less than a half of a day to hit 200.
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>>122102283
>Grinding demon prison D4 at 171
>12% an hour
You'll try to leave, but you'll end up coming back.
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>>122102418
psh i got over 200 cards saved up for lvl 165. no chance im gonna be in that hell at 171.
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>>122101983
Giving up the Zaiba Splash is not really bad when you have a Linker in your party. In fact you should turn off Splash as soon as you have a Linker in your party. Linker makes everything fucking easy cheesy.
You probably don't want to suffer through Cleric c3 since it's quite a pain. But keep in mind that all Krivis c1 skills can be made into scrolls so everyone can use your skills and you won't be helpful at all.
You should think of what you want to be in the end, not what makes it easy to reach that class.
Go through every class there is. Maybe you want to roll a complete different class.

Maybe consider choosing Dievdirby as a class instead of Krivis. Everyone will kiss your ass when you have the statue Lamia up.
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>>122102283
you doing something wrong
im pretty sure i got more than that in 2h at 158 yesterday
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>>122102284
>Verkti Square from 172-187

How did you sanity hold up dealing with this? Also, how long did this take you?
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swordsman > squire
wizard > alchemist
cleric > pardoner
just realize that archer can't jew.
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>>122102589
appraiser soon
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What's the use for cc when you can't use it on bosses?
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Sorc vs Necro

Which class is better?
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>>122102770
PvP probably , hopefully they do something interesting and worthwhile outside of a deathmatch.
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>>122102589
archer is for 420 quickscoping stoner bro`s
they can not jew
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>>122102770
>big ass pull in dungeon
>drop fire phillar
>???
>profit
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>>122102520
I'm pretty much set on going for something in the Cleric tree. Now on Krivis C1 with an alt that was supposed to be a Sadhu since I forgot about Fade and how I'd need it during OoB. I wanted to try Diev but not sure if it's already fixed.

Maybe I'll see first how Krivis C2 would work and then go for Cleric C2 since I don't want to fuck this up on release. Thanks anon.

>You should think of what you want to be in the end, not what makes it easy to reach that class.
y-you too
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>>122102284
>>122102558
Also, how do you deal with spending 60%+ of the time walking between islands in that place because the spawns aren't instant, or when the Goblins that do 4k magic damage decide to jump from the ceiling and instantly nuke you?

Easily the worst grinding spot in the game so far.
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>>122102721
>to estimate the monetary value of; determine the worth of; assess:
maximum jewing?
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>>122101979
It's a full support class on an archetype that is mostly picked for aoe massive damage and some people dislike the visual effect (i had a few).
Also it's in direct competition with elementalist which once again, is probably many wizard main goal.

Really good class though that's for sure, i'll probably roll another one for release. Especially since the later rank damage classes are more what i was looking for (blood and dark spells, featherfoot even seems to be able to heal allies).
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>Spend two hours grinding in Demon Prison
>Gain one and a half levels

Why is this place so horrible
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What are the acquirable hats so far?
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>>122103259
>two hours
>anything

lol
get good kid
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>>122103259
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>>122103259
>two hours
>one and a half levels
>>>>>>>horrible
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>>122102830
Sorcerer has one amazing thing pet in temple shooter and one sort of okay skill in salamion.
Necro has shoggoth which doesnt hit very hard but is pretty tanky and doesn't consume mana or despawn until it dies or you change zone.
Corpse tower is nice but stationary and skeletons do nice damage but are really flimsy and worst of all their AI is horrendously buggy, I thought I knew how bad pet AI was in this game but skeletons bring it to all new levels.
Hard to say which is better honestly. Temple shooter is better than most of necro shit combined but necro shit barely uses any mana while keeping temple shooter up will drain all of your mana.
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How do I stop having 20 fps in crowded towns?
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>>122102558
I was there for about 4 full days or so. I still dream in my sleep of rambears and magicians.

>>122103070
There was always someone in the middle of the map so every corner/area of the map respawned by the time I got there. I saved my cyclone and stun/cleave for the magicians so I never had trouble with them.
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>>122103391
sorc replaces boss hitbars and makes you unable to see buffs/debuffs on normal mobs
and it is really easy to click on their giant fucking summons instead of your target while they are butt fucking

worst class imo
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>>122103024
I can tell from experience since right now I went Cleric c1 > Krivis c2 > Sadhu.
You're great support early in the game and Zaibas is a good damage dealer which will make your grinding experience not as painful.
Also Divine Stigma sounds good at first but when you have over 1000 INT later in the game and it only adds 43 INT, it's not impressive anymore.
But right now I miss having Fade since dealing with your enemies has to be fast orelse you will always be forced out of OoB and since you only have Saftey Zone which can only spoonge 10 hits, it's always a race against time.
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>>122103259
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>>122103509
you can't. Even my i5+290+16gb ram can't handle it.
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>>122103509
change channel
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New thread when?
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So, I was planning on going c3 priest c2 monk with my cleric, but I got bored of autoing shit all day so I went paladin c1 instead of another rank in priest.
I justified this to myself with the theory that 5 skillpoint in a skill almost as strong as cleave except on 8 second cd might be better for leveling than +20 damage on blessing. Free regen with restoration is always welcome , also resist element sounds nice, altough I'm not sure how strong "+49 property resistance" is really.
What do you think? Was it a bad idea?
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>>122103564
I am not a BRbarian, but I am getting Cyclone soon. is 1 point into it enough to kill the Wizard Goblins?

Until then, I can't kill the Wizards. At all. Any attempt at engaging them results in 50% HP loss or death.
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>>122103595
When do you get 1000 int?
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Who abusing /partyquests/ here?
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Paid some BR 200k to duel me and throw me up on a ledge because I have nothing better to do than 100% explore maps. Now he won't stop PMing me about how much money 200k is.
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>>122103610
I've got a similar setup and it's atrocious, lowering all gfx settings to minimum doesn't help AT ALL. What the fuck is going on?
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>>122103776
Unfortunately, people only choose Paladin for the cute outfit. Smite is the only damage dealer they really have and it's not impressive at all.
Resist Element is the only good skill they have but other classes have way more utility.
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Anyone managed to get this quest?
http://www.tosbase.com/database/quests/16700/
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>>122103887
I didn't do any. It takes too long to cycle quests until you get one with a card. You waste time there which you could spend grinding. Do what you want though.

Wish there was a guide to them already. I hate them.
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>>122103887
I am convinced that EXP cards from party quests is just another elaborate /tosg/ ruse. I only ever get silver from this shit.
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>>122103887
It's annoying when the rewards are silver and a shovel.

Fucking Crowley
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anyone else have trouble with chrome tabs crashin g when tos is open
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>>122103862
Someone made a chart where he calculated points and such with each level and also the bonus points you get.
At lvl 555, he had 1478 INT.
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NEW BREAD

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>>122103806
1 point should be enough to kill them in 1 hit, if not close. Having 5 magicians rain down on me and popping cyclone was great.
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Any sorcs interested in buying a +1 to Summon Salamion gem on Laima?
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>>122101979
It's full support, I went Pyro C2 before Thaumaturge and while the damage is fanfuckingtastic everything else takes 3x as much effort to set up compared to any other class. If I could get parties reliably I wouldnt have dropped it for Memelander.
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Mass Heal is such a buggy piece of shiet. It doesn't heal me half of the time.
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>>122082887
>support character
>no aspersion
>no resist elements
>monstrance 10/10

Nigger stahp, you clearly have no idea what you are saying, stop thinking you found something bi clicking shit in the char builder that no one else has figured out.
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>>122096660
Gotta post that stuff on the forums for IMC to (probably not) see.
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>>122104272
this is basically what happened to me as well.

Its just too much of a hassle, every little thing is buff and fireball, it gets old. Kill one mob? Buff and fireball. Kill 10 mobs? Buff and fireball.

I wonder if cryo-psyko would have been a better path
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>>122090735
>be american
>earn like 10x more than any other country on the world
>f2p game requires you to spend a couple hundred dollars to get the same experience as some shit ass totalitarian country where all the females are ugly and need surgery.

Welp anon, the only thing off is your common sense.
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>>122090418
sheperd is a hidden class, there's no guarantee that sheperd will be circle 9 or some shit like that, it may as well be a circle 2-6 thing that requires an item or whatever. *wink* cash shop *wink*

personally I don't see why you people are so excited about a class that has a dog if you don't have any idea of the skills... might as well just buy a cosmetic dog pet form the CS and that's it... dog fuckers?
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