/vtg/ Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide General

Killing Floor/Horde mode soon.

Hopefully I'll be able to toss pfennings around

>Deep Pockets
>While equipped, there is 8.0% chance that any consumable item you pick up will be duplicated.

How exactly does this work?
Does it mean that sometimes I may take something, and another one remains there for another person to take too?
Or does it mean that I somehow get 2 for myself?

The name "Deep pockets" implies the latter, but how would that even work?

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First for pretty elf nails :3

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1st for white elf pubes in your face

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>>122048846
first option


same goes for the potion and nades one

>>122049258
That's weak, but I guess I was naive to expect the other option to be true.

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>>122048978
This is what those pretty elf nails are used for.

Air guitar

>>122049623
He's just nervous, that's all.

Repostan from old thread:

What if anything did that update change? There didnt seem to be any increase in performance in the game I just played. Did they revamp the loot system? Also when are thet gonna get rid of the fucking launcher for the launcher?

>>122049623
>11
>13
>glitching
disgusting

Even I did all the levels legit in normal before fagging around with CE

>>122050340
They made the Hagbane Swift Bows able to melt Rat Ogres in seconds.

>>122050672
My exotic hagbane with hail of doom and a str potion sure as hell didn't do noticabely better against ogres.

>>122050963
Try again then, this time without missing the majority of your shots.

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>>122051542
nice

Would things get too easy if Rat ogres were potentially a patrolling type thing that could be avoided by a careful, stealthy group?

>>122051542
I didn't miss majority of my shots. Why are you being a hagbane apologist? The bow is utter shit.

>>122053731
yes.

>>122053731
yea I think so

the game needs something looming and unavoidable to save things (bombs in particular) for so you can't just use everything on horde

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>>122048139
Patch notes here:
http://steamcommunity.com/games/235540/announcements/detail/753586315657496925

>revamped loot system in less than a month

Thank God

So I want to get this game.
I ask you all, is it worth the price? Because if so I'll buy it right now.
well after my next paycheck anyway

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>>122056535
The free DLC will introduce a number of new features including player control of what loot is dropped in-game and a new altar in the Inn, that provides ways of sacrificing existing loot to improve the player’s arsenal. In addition to this, the DLC will include completely new traits added to the loot tables and new, unique weapon drops in the “red” loot class for each of the 40 weapon types in Vermintide. Each red weapon features a set trait combination, taking top tier gameplay to a new level.

Aside from this first DLC, Fatshark is separately planning on adding a private mode, for players wanting the challenge of facing off against the Skaven alone! Realism mode is also on the way, removing the game HUD, crosshairs and more to create a truly immersive and authentic (and hardcore!) experience for particularly skilled Vermintide fans. Last but not least, Fatshark will be adding a survival mode to the game, allowing players to take on endless waves of ever-increasing enemies.

>>122056627
You can get it for $7-$15 on some of the brazillian/russian sites. I've put in 100+ hours so it's been pretty good value.

>>122056627
It's worth for me. Of course there are a lot of bad things, but melee is pretty cool and the whole gameplay have a potential to be really great thing. It was nice to return in Empire after fo4.

>>122056627
Do it Anon.
Get the game, play it for an hour, if you like the essence of the gamplay then you will most likely get a lot of mileage out of it.
If you don't like the core gameplay then refund; it does get better with time, but it doesn't change fundamentally.

i have a 100% luck trinket, does that mena i have to open all the chests? or is it already applied to the entire party?

>>122057765
It means nothing because Luck trinkets are a big fat placebo that doesn't actually do shit.
Prove me wrong.
I hope you can

If my entire party has the Star of the Sisterhood trinket which creates a common health pool, does that mean that one person healing distributes the healing over everyone?

Or is the trinket's effect as simple as 'divide damage by X users'

WHAT ARE THE PARAMETERS?

They sure did nerf the packmaster pretty hard, he often misses entirely if you just backpedal a bit at the right moment.

>>122058141
Well... he was kinda bullshit.
Motherfucker was sneakier than the goddamn Assassins.

>>122059198
>>122058141
I just hated how you were basically fucked 90% of the time even if you saw them like 5 second before they grabbed you. I like the emphasis on teamwork it created but it really should've been a bit easier to save yourself if you saw what was happening (like it is with the other specials)

What exactly did they do to it? I haven't played in a couple days.

>>122056627
Its not worth the Steam price given that the developers are legendarily incompetent. Get it from a key site for 15 dollarydoos or so.

>>122059404
It looks like they just reduced the grab range to be more in-line with the visual length of his pole.

>>122049012
I miss when /tg/ was allowed to be lewd.

>dwarf gets hooked
>before we can respond he pulls him through a fucking wall and hangs him outside the map
>respawns behind us after we've jumped down and can't get to him anymore
Nice

What are THE best trinkets? Or alternatively, which combo is best?

>+6% movement speed
>12% chance of item duplication
>grimoire health boost (what %??)
>25% chance a grenade won't be used up
>20% chance a healing item won't be used up
>allies with 15m will be healed for 20% when using a healing item on yourself
>20% self-heal when healing an ally
>+100% luck
>+50% faster revival
>shared team health

Personally I think the best combo would be

>shared team health
>grimoire health boost
>20% chance a healing item won't be used

>>122059858
+100% luck
Grimoire health boost
AoE heal

>>122059858
Grim Health Boost
AoE heal
20% chance to not consume heal item/25% chance not to consume bomb

>>122060006
>+100% luck
tell us the secrets anon

So when are these threads going to become warhammer game general? It seems like this general could use some more posters.

>>122064108
When Total Warhammer releases.
>It seems like this general could use some more posters.
By turning it into a Warhammer general the extra posts in the thread won't be about Vermintide anyway, you'll get the same amount of relevant content if you only come here for Vermintide.

>>122064483
probably less because some /vtg/ posters might leave/come less often

I know I probably would

>>122064108
See:
>>122033151

Everyone seemed to like that idea. I really don't mind the general being kind of slow. It will probably get busier when they fix some of the glaring issues in the next few weeks.

>>122064942
I post in this one fairly frequently, but I doubt I'd move to a non-specific one.

>>122064483
I realize that the new content wouldn't be Vermintide, but I like Warhammer in general so I wouldn't mind seeing posts about non-Vermintide Warhammer games.

>>122065018
Ah. I didn't see the other thread. Waiting for the release of TotalWarhammer sounds like a solid idea.

I like Sienna.

She seems like the kind of wild woman who would go to one of those 80s-themed discos, drink way too many cocktails, and dance like a madman.

>tfw she'll never be your auntie

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>Play for a whole fucking night
>the only thing I get for WH is this
JUST

JUST

JUST

JUST

JUST

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>rolling a green trinket

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>>122066635
>level 27
>only loot I've rolled for WH is white repeaters
>decided to try to combine level-up whites for 60% chance at a green SOMETHING
>nope

>>122066830
Is there a way to trash orange items?

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>>122066830
>>122066635
>170hs
>level 117
>cheated bp in the begining and white rat after
>abusimg CE to give myself grims in white rat
>got surprisingly decent gear for the classes I don't wish to master
>got ok gear for my classes

>>122066972
CE players belong in >>>/trash/ desu

>>122067237
I don't mind CE players because they at least know what they want and don't just go through the motions to justify it to themselves

>>122051542
charge shot is bugged you retard

>>122066952

Just salvage it like anything else.

>elf player, level 90 joins the team
>level is impressive, but
>elf
>runs ahead, demands we take 2 grims despite our pub team not being able to handle it
>is consistently grabbed by packmasters, assassins
>ends up on the wrong side of a horde, gets splintered off, downed
>rats kill him before we can get there
>ragequits

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>full party of mid level 20s
>Supply and Demand on hard
>get to the finale
>they all scatter
>get pounced by assassins and are constantly swarmed so I have to keep trying to save their asses as best I can with drakefires
>they pick up the sacks and never. fucking. ever. let go even if there are ten clanrats hitting their backs
>instead of bunching the sacks up in front of the statue they carry each individual sack all the way back to the cart
>we all wipe at the Ogre
>turns out none of them had ever played that map before
Those players were all levels 24-28, what the fuck were they doing this entire time to level?

>>122069260
Probably playing HoM over and over again.

I don't understand how people don't get fucking sick of that mission.

>>122069445
people REALLY REALLY like colored swords
I honestly feel like if they didn't color the weapons and just gave them varying stats the game would be way less loot focused for manyplayers

>>122069445
To be fair the maps fucking suck at this point. They're all more or less the same, the objectives suck hard time and there's really no point in playing the others story wise. So yeah, no real point in playing anything else than HoM if you want loot since it's way too much based off tomes.

>>122072420
There is a pretty big variety in the main maps, other than 1-2 that are just city like HoM

HoM is one of the worst maps to grind and not interesting which is why you probably feel that way.

>>122072420
there's more they could do for variety but it's ridiculous to say the maps are all more or less the same

even aesthetically they're fairly well-differentiated given they're all within one city

So when does the DLC hit so we can actually praise sigmar

>>122073091
December 3rd

>>122072948
I did finish the game and tried some "grinding" some more of the maps. Sure, I'm sick of HoM, but at least it's pretty easy to get the tomes and grimoires.
>>122073030
Like you said, they could do better. Honestly I would have prefered 5 maps with some variety, better objectives and some story than many of them that are all the same, to me at least.
I mean, it's severely lacking events and stuff. I know it's not L4D, but still. When I get some explosive barrels, I expect shit to actually blow.

>>122073539
I think they're fine in variety, but more is never a bad thing
>wizard tower with its fucked up tower and defend the four points
>engines of war where you blow up doomwheels although i wish the doomwheels were active
>hom where you do generic horn survive
>i forget the name but basically it's wheat and chaff at the end of a map
>white rat

>>122073539
This actually makes me wish that the side maps were grouped with the story maps L4D style and culminated with a big event like
>start out in smugglers run
>find out town is near deserted
>do hom
>need supplies for next set ofmissions
>do supply and demand that culminates with black powder as the big event
>start with garden and go into waterfront to well watch

>New updates
>Can no longer do TWR Cata exploits anymore

fug, now where can I get loots quick without resorting to CE?

>>122074351
Why n ot just play another game that is actually loot based?

Best bow? I'm guessing it's either Longbow or Trueflight?

>>122075247

Longbow. Trueflight has less ammo, less damage, lower ROF, and locks on to random shit instead of going where you're aiming.

>>122075247
>more ammo
>penetration
>no aimboting random shit for no reason

Longbow is bestbow.

>>122075773
>Nightmare/Cata
>Stormvermin is behind a teammate
>Target, shoot up and over them

>Ratling Gunner is shooting
>Target through wall, shoot outwards and around

>Stormvermin on Ramparts
>Kill the first lot before even dropping down into the main area

Trueflight is great, it just takes skill :^)

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God damn Krubers life is depressing

>run away from shitty abuse farm family and enlist as a kid
>he does well and leads a famed regiment
>is winning a major battle until a wiz casts a dark orb that sucks out the souls of his soldiers
>is only saved because one of them threw themselves between him and the orb
>is the sole survivor
>applies to go home to grieve and be with is family, gets denied
>Saltzpyre had to convince empire to let him go
>tells him during the skaven outbreak that his family is probably dead

>>122076749
That's not a bad life all things considered when you're living in a world where
>your soul can become the eternal plaything of mummies / vampires / necromancers / gods that are evil incarnate
>you can be a slave to any number of the hostile races
>you are mutilated by the wildlife
>greenskins destroy everything you know, probably you too
>crazy cultists capture you and torture your mind and body until you become one of them, their plaything, a host for their demons or die
>only to go to their gods' realms to become playthings for all that dwell there
>could be a bretonnian peasant
>could have been born outside of the empire and subject to the mercies of the crazy elves that want to eat you / do tests on you / kill you and rape your family outright

At least he probably fugs the shit out of Kerillian after they kill the seer, and he's alive still. He's living a better life than probably 80% of the world.

>>122076749
>Kruber returns to his family's farm
>They are all alive
>He lives out the End Times with them
>Gets replaced in the party by a peasant

If combine the potion sharing trinket with the not consuming the potion when you use it trinket, will your party become Gods

Goddamn, why the fuck are shitty groups so insistent about picking up grims? Guaranteed rolls mean nothing if you can't survive with the lowered health pool and actually finish the mission.

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>>122075773
>>122076590
>6 orange hagbanes
>4 orange trueflights
>not a single orange longbow

>>122059858
AoE potions is a huge benefit, maybe even a must.

I'd say
AoE potions
Shared health
Grimoire health boost.

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>>122078123
>Have both tinkets although not orange
>Drink speed potion
>Not consumed
>Drink it again
>Still not consumed
>Repeat until I have 4 speed potions effects at once, potion finally disappears from inventory
>Team becomes super sanic gods for a brief moment of grace
>Break finger by clicking M1 like a retard
>Everything is dead
>Go so fast I pass through the walls and reach etheral ascension
>mfw it was the tightest shit ever

I also remember the time we threw 4 bombs at an ogre with a double strength potion.

>>122078123
If it procs, yes.
That's why everyone should have at least the potion sharing trinket. A single potion will almost completely trivialize a horde and having four potions active against a rat ogre ensures it will never be difficult again.

>>122072420
>thinks the game is boring
>still playing it
>so he can get colored swords
>for the game he doesn't want to play

>>122075247
Hagbane
Seriously

>>122076948
This is the same setting were skulls grow out of the ground natural. Shit's fucked yo.

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>>122059764

Fucking hell, got myself an exotic shield + mace and one handed mace right afterwards, for the soldier.

How the fuck can anyone use this shit? Both the mace and the shield go from AoE attack to single target, it's unpractical as fuck. I keep getting hit because all of sudden my weapons decide to fuck me over.
Looks like I gotta head back to the white two handed hammer...

>>122080072
>everyone should have at least the potion sharing trinket
I wish it was that easy

Do the level-up rewards increase in quality eventually

>>122082567
Third strike is always the overhead, which can be useful for storms. Really you should just be using a charged for your third strike or just spam charged and nothing else.

Single mace is garbage though.

>>122082697
Problem is, the shield also does it and it seems the pattern is completly random at the moment. Not for the mace itself, but the shield tends to fuck up. I'll just use my hammer again, fuck it.

>>122082567
single mace is great, mace/shield is also great
you slash twice and instead of using your third attack which is an overhead, and rly good for everything if you can get it to hit on the head, you should block and shove/dodge/evade or just release block and start slashing again depending on breathing space/circumstance

>>122082768
>shield also does it
What?
Mace+shield the normal hit lmb combo is 3 strikes, 2 side to side with the final overhead. The charge attack is you bashing their faces in with your shield which ALWAYS hits pretty much everything infront of you and knocks it down.

That's why with a mace and shield you do 2 left clicks and then a charged hit. You should never get the single target overhead because the your breaking the combo and it's always the 3rd hit.

Again you can also just do nothing but the charge attack and come out fine too. I did a nightmare wiz tower with mace and shield and left clicked maybe 10 times max and got top kills and damage because my team was shit

>>122082696
You start getting greens at lvl 34 or so.

>>122083903
Wow
What's the cap by the way

>>122081058
Elaborate

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What should i name it /vtg/?

>>122083110
Shiet. Well I'll try using it again.

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Daily reminder that if you find an exploit, keep it to yourself until the loot gets fixed.

Why is there no real cash shop? I want to buy stuff.

>>122085031
Thank you leddit for ruining good times for all, again

>>122085494
We "saved" Ubersreik, so maybe we could actually start seeing NPCs and shit around, and maybe walk around the city instead of the inn.

>>122085494
I mean I understand not liking a game, but that's a pretty odd reason to drop a game

>>122085828
Yeah I understand, just thought that was an odd point to fixate on specifically. As for the Warhammer lore, how I understand the licensing works with GW is they give you a setting and a very constrained set of rules to work in, hence why most 40k games are based on Space Hulk / off shoot chapters in middle of nowhere places

>>122085494
>literally every guardsman is already dead
>A lowly sergeant is able to kill thousands just fine
The least they could do is add some static rat corpses near the dead guardsmen so it at least seems like they put up a fight

>>122086026
>rats have time to clean up their own or do whatever they do with them
>rest of the guard has fled / is in hiding so no time to care for their dead
That's how I thought of it at least

>>122085828
Not that guy, but I agree. It's pretty much a straight clone of L4D right now, with some gimmicks.

Hopefully they end up letting us go to non-combat, non-mission areas. It'd make more sense if we got our weapons crafted at a blacksmith, we or could potentially buy items before a mission starts from some vendor in town.

I hope they don't end up just cramming shit into the inn either. The furnace, anvil and soon to be magic bookcase thing look out of place. And since the missions seemed to change the inn, the least White Rat could have done was open the inn door, even if it was just into an empty part of the city.

>>122086103
I would assume they would eat the bodies, although for that logic to work it would mean they ate their comrades literally to the bone but left the guardsmen mostly intact.

It would have bern cool to see something like a dead rat ogre surrounded by dozens of guardsmen though. Environmental storytelling and all that shit.

>>122085567
>"we saved Ubersreik" during the end credits
>innkeeper has gone mad and in reality it's only the 6 of you, the carriage driver and possibly the wizard left
even though I'm joking it could very well be true since you never see any signs of life anywhere else

>>122086626
>"Like him, I'm the brains of this operation, and don't willingly put myself in danger"
Probably wasn't at all intentional, but when he says that before White Rat, it does sound strange

What's the story behind Garden of Morr again? Like why are we there? I can't remember it ever being explained very well.

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>>122086894
Rats pissing in the water.

What's the point of protecting the wells for 10 minutes and then fucking off with dozens of skaven still chasing you? I mean unless you post extremely competent guards there forever won't they just come poison that shit the moment it isn't being watched?

>>122086894
Rats are fucking around in a garden known to host necromancers and spirits
It's also a set terrain piece for WHFB I think they just really wnated to shoe in

>>122087059
A 'garden of Morr' is literally a graveyard
Morr is the God of Death, prayed to for the safe passage of souls

>>122087021
I hope a Well exploit is found so it being farmed makes sense in the story.
>yeah, we're back to the wells again because as soon as you fucks leave they're back trying to poison us again

>>122087021
Well Watch makes the least sense of any mission.

>the rats are only suddenly attacking the wells when you show up, even though they clearly RULE the place, and you've been busy for hours elsewhere
>fucking NOBODY is going to be using those wells anytime soon, judging by how everyone is dead
>the rats only attack one of the wells at a time, and have periods where they aren't fucking up the wells
>the moment you leave they don't just poison it, like a skaven probably would prefer to do
>and at the end of the day you're only protecting TWO fucking wells, who gives a shit about TWO wells?

>>122072420
>>122072948
>>122073030
>>122073539
>>122073710
>>122074294
The maps are poorly designed for longevity. They needed variable event scripting and alternate routes. They play out identically each time minus the minute changes in special balance and timings. When you consider how horrendously low the chance of getting best in slot gear or hats is, you have to assume they intended people to smash this game and smash it hard. I honestly doubt there's anyone with a grain of self-respect who could stomach this identical shit until filling out their armory completely.
I enjoy the gameplay and don't regret purchasing at all, but they dropped the ball on maps and exploration.

>>122087561
Yeah, it's a garbage map. It's not even fun on the first play through.

>>122087638
Diablo 3 was fairly decent in this regard, I think?
Each of the maps weren't random, but there were multiple events that could appear in each level. Could have been completing some random event inside a house, defending a chest, opening a tomb etc.

Instead of the grimoires and tomes being in set positions, they should be hidden behind random objectives. The health reduction of the grimoire already feels really weird, and it would make a lot more sense if we actually destroyed the grimoire, with finding it in the first place was the challenge.

>>122087930
I agree. Release D3 sucked but the random events were a pretty good idea.
Agree on the grimoire thing too, it's a book of the skaven's chaos magic. We should be carrying it to a hallowed flame or similar and burning that sucker.

>HoM NM
>Ogre spawns on roofs
>I get hit and thrown out
>I end up on the poorly textured decor roof where you are NOT supposed to be
>Try to jump my way back and die miserably

Bravo Fatshit bravo

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>Nightmare
>2g3t
>Two helmets
>Roll a hagbane
FUCJK YOU

>>122090601
...did they make the loot system worse?
Why the fuck are there two whites on NM?

>>122090601
>two whites on nightmare
What in the ever loving fuck.

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I like the voice acting, I really do. I find myself coming back to this every once in a while.


It just feels weird to be the only level 100+in a normal or hard pub match.

Now, I'm not as much as a shitter as you may think but I like to play for fun with pubs and leave hardcore gayming to a coordinated sexy voiced team.

>>122091801
RIGHTEOUS FEEL NO PAIN
BE THOU UNRIGHTEOUS?

>>122091471
The only difficulty without whites has always been cata.

>>122092275
I only play NM and cata. NM table is one white at the bottom roll anything and you're green or better. Never ever seen 2 whites on it. Has this shit always been a thing?

>>122092892
Just as NM can have up to 3 oranges at the top, the other item types can vary just the same.
Pretty sure 2 whities is really rare.

>>122093107
Ahh, makes sense. Thanks for clarifying.

>be level 22
>hard is becoming mundane for me
>have already beaten a few levels on nightmare
>look for a nightmare game
>join this level 69 witch hunter
>"leave my game you asshole"

>>122094725
Unless they somehow let us see the stats or in game achievements(games finished, victories, etc) of players I would also rather have people under level 30 to leave.

Not only because level 30 allows for the underwhelming 3rd trinket slot but it implies that a player, even though they may not know all the maps, have experience with the game mechanics and will somehow pull their weight and improve upon given instructions.

A level 22 shiter is most certainly a grim sight that I'd rather avoid.

>elf shoots me with hagbane for the fourth time during HoM cata
>wait for a horde
>beam the fuck out her remaining health
>guys what happened to me
>blame the dwarf

>>122095994
Good job man
You sure showed her

>>122059858
Potion share, 25% free bomb and grim hp boost.
Just gets more ridiculous with every other player using it.

>>122097023
>it's ok! w-we're using whites!

The netcode in this game is fucking atrocious. Finding games/players is always a hassle.

>>122097443
wat

>>122097531
how's life in somaliA?

Dead thread it seems.

Dead thread, I'm sure of it.

I know this area, it's a dead thread.

>>122087561
to be fair the wells are probably connected to aquifers which would fuck up a whole lot more water then they let on with just two wells that are probably connected to the same body of water

>>122100828
It's a dead thread! Where's your sense of direction?

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Markus Kruber: "Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide Collector's Edition!"

What did he mean by this?

I feel like side missions need their own way to get good rewards since there's no tomes/grims and I feel like people shy away from them as a result.

>>122103968
They really do, some of them are actually pretty fun but people don't want to fucking run them.
I'm not sure exactly how though... maybe hiding some cursed bonus dice in places where you are guaranteed to find them? Their chance of a successful roll is pretty shit anyway, it's not like they would break the game.

>>122103968
They make up for it by being quicker I think

>>122104519
or maybe just fix the fucking loot system and let aestethic things be random as shit but guarantee at least what you're looking for so you can craft it up

We'll see what they come up with in a handful of days from today.

>>122087638
There are minor alternate paths in most maps and there is a ton of exploration involved in finding tomes/grims, or even just finding all the resource spawns.

I really dont see how they could be improved by adding longer alternate paths, people would just take the shortest one every time if they were replaying for loot instead of fun.

The same thing goes for different events, Rat ogres/patrols/hordes already do a good job of adding difficulty spikes.

Is the axe for the witch hunter really terrible?

I got an orange one and my best melee weapons with it are a green rapier/flamberge

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>having a series of good runs on Nightmare pubs
>get a fucking green on every single one of them

motherfucker this has happened 10 times in a row including the goddamn ones where we got tomes and grims and even one where there were 3 oranges on the board FUCK YOU GAME

>>122107042
You force them to take alternate patchs. Garden of Morr: a different tomb opens.
Horn of Magnus: Skaven blow up the bridge after the first tome in horn and belch forth from a tunnel system.
Well Watch -- is deleted. Cause it's irredeemably dull.
Waterfront: New and exciting warehouses.
Engines of War: there's a cave in and you have to take the river instead after the cave in shook the debris loose.
Wizard's Tower: You get teleported elsewhere, new and exciting geometry awaits you.
Enemy Below: additional caves and cave ins.
The Rest: I cannot be bothered listing shit off the top of my head.
There are plenty opportunities to mix it up. The levels as they stand are 100% a known factor and you should be able to clear them 100% of the time on Nightmare and below after Packmaster nerfs. I think that makes the game dangerously dull.

>almost near the end of tower in nightmare pubs
>be full hp
>die for no fucking reason on the stairway

And not just grounded, but dead and teleported above, what the fuck.

>HoM Nightmare
>Everything going fine, double grim
>Ogre Spawns, only the grim people are alive
>Packmaster pulls Soldier away, down a flight of stairs and through a wall
>Runner flies through an adjacent roof, tackling the witch, and somehow also knocking her off the cliff
I feels like the specials are more buggy than ever with this patch, maybe I'm just paranoid.

>>122084334
>>122013408

>>122091801
>It just feels weird to be the only level 100+in a normal or hard pub match.
I know how that feels. People always comment on it every single time then expect me to lead the charge as some sort of immortal god who can do no wrong ever and will surely lead them all to victory effortlessly.

Then they all get overconfident, play like shit, and blame me for not carrying them hard enough. If CE could delevel me I'd do it at this point.

>>122114751
It probably can.

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>4,352 In-Game

>>122118251
Still doing better than evolve did, a much hyped AAA title. That was under 1000 in like a week tops.

>>122107195
it's okay. armor pen on light attacks is great. I'd say use it until you get an orange rapier or zwei

What's everyone's favorite maps for fun?

I really like man the ramparts. Wiz tower is really neat from a design perspective too.

>>122119426
I love Man the Ramparts. no one ever runs it though

>>122119426
Ramparts, Waterfront, Smugglers run are all really fun, I think part of the reason I like them so much is that they are short and I don't feel like I've wasted my time if the group wipes.

I'm also pretty fond of Wheat & Chaff because it's a short but very high intensity sort of mission.

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>>122119262
i remember the plebs
>WHO'S GETTING THE MONSTER RACE EDITION XDDD :))))
>I DO!! I DO!!

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>>122119426
>Wiz tower
Easily my favorite. Horn of Magnus is second.

>>122120104
PUFFY

>>122120297
SQUID BEAKS

>>122119426
I rather like Engines of Doom and Well Watch.
Well Watch can be pretty bullshit, but I like the idea, sort of like a Tower Defense stage.
Luckily for me Survival Mode is coming.

>>122119426

Smuggler's Run is pretty good. I feel like it keeps the pressure on for just long enough.

What are the major differences between Hard and Nightmare? I've been thinking of making the switch lately. I have an orange axe/shield and blue drakefire pistols for gear, along with some crappy trinkets.

Is the game fun if you have no friends

>>122123559
There isn't that big of a different between hard and nightmare really, it's just far more important not to take damage.

>>122123564

No.

I'll play with you ifyou're not a fuckin' weirdo.

>>122123798

So average rat damage is up, I'm assuming. Okay, thanks. Are the rats tougher at all, or just more spiky?

>>122123559
Ranged and bombs Friendly Fire.
Storms are even bigger assholes
Globadiers can easily wipe a team from the impact damage alone

>>122124029
They are a bit tougher, shouldn't really be noticeable though unless you're stuck using whites/greens.

>>122124137
Don't forget packmasters. Teammates block shots so if you get grabbed get ready to be dragged forever as your team fills you with holes.

>>122123878
Can we erp about rimming musky rat butts?

>>122124694
Not that guy but only if the elf is being forced to do the rimming

>>122124694
My Witch Hunter would rim... I mean investigate the butt of an elf.

>>122124694
Only if it's cute rat friends rimming each other to empty their massive rat balls.

>>122124984
>>122125513
>>122125743
So the WH is rimming the Elf, who is being forced to rim a Skaven, who is himself rimming another rat? Sounds complicated.

>be level 50
>play with other level 50+s
>repeatedly carry your team with shittons of kills
>lose anyway

Is this the curse of being gud?

>>122126542
But why are the other three members of the team being left out? And what about superdom stormvermin senpai?

>>122126801

>Kills
>A useful measure of skill

Pick one, homie. Damage done and damage taken are the only 2 that are even remotely relevant.

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>3t2g nightmare run on enemy below
>we get the end, victory is practically guaranteed
>the fucking Elf moves way too much forwards before sniping the Stormvermin, triggering the even hordes
>takes forever to snipe them and fails at it, letting the Stormvermin even jump up to us so I have to kill them
>we wipe because a gorrillion rats swarm us from behind
THE TRUEFLIGHT BOW WAS MADE FOR INEPT FUCKERS LIKE YOU, FUCKING USE IT IF YOU'RE GOING TO PLAY ELF

>>122126915
A Rat Ogre is beating the shit out of the rest of the team while the Stormvermin are all having a loud gay orgy in the middle of the street

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>>122127041

lol

>>122127374
Ok cool. I was worried that some people were missing out on the fun.

>>122127721

So brag about that, not kills. Bragging about kills makes you look like an elf

Two questions: has anyone figured out what that statue in the last bit of Supply Lines leads to yet? The one that the characters all yammer about if you look at it. And is anyone actually playing? If so, what difficulty?

>>122128282

But shotguns do overkill damage so kills are more accurate.

>>122087059
Literally one of the best set pieces they released.

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>Enemy Below
>Everything is going well
>At dropoff to Pillar room
>Finish sniping the Stormvermin, about to drop down, check behind me
>Stormvermin in my face
>Go to shove and follow-up hammer swing, he shoves me at the same time
>Right off the fucking cliff
>I had a grim

I'll take "Shitty ways to die" for $500, Alex.

>>122048139
So, has anything changed recently?

>>122131626
New patch:
http://steamcommunity.com/games/235540/announcements/detail/753586315657496925

>>122090601
The only oranges Ive ever gotten were from the quick maps on hard whilst getting a lucky roll.

I mean, I get grims and tomes, but they never feel like they give you a better shot at loot. The system is just fucked.

>>122101107
A dead thread? Who lead us to this place?!

>>122131626
No new content until 3rd December

>>122132184
>I get grims and tomes, but they never feel like they give you a better shot at loot

Uh, chief, there seems to be an error here.

>>122133647
In the most literal sense of the word you are right, but you are also missing the point.

Finally got my first drakefires after 60 hours and only seeing them on the loot table twice. Blue with regrowth on any hit and the attack speed buff chance. Holy shit they're fun, I didn't realise they didn't use ammo either, I can just pop away all day. Not too bad at taking down specials either on Hard, just wish they had targeteer.

On a separate note, all the characters seem to talk about the "hidden treasure" under the bridge on Black Powder. Is this anything worth investigating, or is it just a reference to some lore thing?

Which animal is the horn of magnus made of

>>122134583
you are mum

>>122134583
Bronze, a legendary demon of Khorne

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>everyone in my group that I play with getting awesome loot
>playing WH
>still using starting pistol with 2H sword/rapier
>keep getting shit for Ranger

BUT I DON'T WANT TO PLAY RANGER

>>122124687
>block shots

Use a weapon with penetration senpai.
On nightmare the FF damage is negligible compared to getting dragged off and gangbanged.So put a hole in your team to save them. Even bombs aren't too bad on NM if you're not currently double grimmed. A bomb into a Stormvemin+Horde might do bit of team damage, but if you think the FF is less than the bumfucking the storm is about to give your idiot teammates, go for it.

Arrows stuck in enemies?

So I will only really see arrows stuck in enemies from headshots?

They seem to stick in everything else fine, but someone mentioned the ogres back looked like a porcupine and I couldn't see shit, only one or two in his head.

780ti/6600k all settings maxed.

>>122076749

he will make a fine Khornate Champion

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Anyone wanna play fatshark's other game Bloodsports? It looks fun, but shit is more dead than Warhammer Fantasy tabletop.

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>Level 57, join game
>Vote kicked immediately

But why
I just wanted to smush some rats with my giant hammer.

>>122136940
I've actually seem more people playing WHFB at my local store in the last couple of months, even saw some dudes playing fucking the Blood Bowl table top after a game, which I've literally never seen

>>122136949
Join game full of level 20s as a level 60 shield kruber
>"lol get lost nerd"
>instantly kicked
Alright

So I've been doing to experimenting.

I don't think the AOE poison on the Hagbane works if you aren't the host.

Go to the inn and shoot shit as the host, you'll notice the AOE causes shit to go flying like a mini explosion. Now if you join a game. The only items affected are the ones directly hit.

Only reason I can think of that I melt ogres in seconds and find it cuts through hordes, yet other people say it's worthless garbage.

I just started playing, is setting rats on fire with conflagration effective? Because it's fun as fuck

>>122118251
baka desu senpai

that's an excellent number of fucking online players in an hour

>>122141386
Aye, not the fastest and sometimes you'll need to blast them twice to assure your team to take them quickly. Plus in chokepoints and in highter difficulties is pretty useful

I'm really hoping for a Knight of the Blazing Sun outfit.
Going to play Empire soldier just hoping for the day it exists.
Hell it might right now, the wiki isn't fleshed out enough for me to know if armour is even a thing.

>>122144420

Armor is not a thing, but hats are.

>>122144649
Then why the totally different armour on the hero page of the website?
It has a model of their armour but it's totally different ingame.

>>122144649
>>122144769
>>122144420

It'll be one of the DLC's, definitely.

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Do niggers exist in Fantasy? Would a decent, likeable, attractive, Irish accent'ed niggress be feasible?

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This was my night, how was yours?

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>>122146995
Yeah, they do.

>>122146995
Most of the north half of Warhammer's Africa is skeleton territory, with Araby (Yes, exactly what its uncreative name suggests) occupying a small pocket
South half is Lizardman-owned jungle

>>122147295
Was standing under that floor, hackrat just pulled me up through it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urV8MIcLDFk
>feeding to the hungry rats for dinner

just remembered dishonored, good game.

>>122147330
They're British's finest you illiterate prick.

>>122147607
What?

>>122147713

>Britain's finest

The Orks are space cockneys.

>>122147295
What the hell is wrong with that Packmaster's head?

>>122148910
His head is turned, looking over his shoulder.

>>122148910
He's looking around giddily at all the other man-things to snatch

>tfw you just want a group to run cata with

>>122148210
yeah Britain's, my caveman language doens't differnetiate nationality from country

Aren't they Orcs tho?

Are great axes any good on higher difficulties? They only have 2 stamina shields and they are slow so it's pretty hard to avoid damage.

>>122149319
Orcs for fantasy Orks for spess

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>>122148910

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>>122149623
I've got an exotic with extra stamina, 8.5% health regen on kill, and greater pushback. It's been incredibly useful on Nightmare, although I've yet to test in in Cata.

>only level 25
>haven't had much time to play
>try to play tonight
>booted from 3 games, barely loaded into any of the games

The fuck is going on? It's not like I'm playing on NM or Cata, just hard.

Please don't tell me this community has gone full douche bag like the L4D/L4D2 communities did. Christ, it took a few months before people became insufferable faggots in those games.

>>122149623
I tried them once and didn't have a very good experience with it, it felt like a slightly more lethal 2h dwarf hammer that hits less targets.

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tfw you will never get this

>>122150031
They were probably waiting for a friend that crashed

>>122150094
Is this bugged or actually requires a 7 roll with all regular dice?

>>122150215
Nope, I got it yesterday with grims, tomes and the other dice. First time it had actually registered though, I'd rolled the same twice before.

>>122150215
Regular dice.

I hope you have enough room in your mouth for Ranald's dick because that's the only way you'll ever get it.

>>122149679
yeah senpai and they have a goiblin there so its an orc

Is there a better spot to hold out at during the 2nd gate event on Smugglers run?

The collapsed stair bit really doesn't seem defensible at all.

>>122150335
There's grotz too in spess

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>>122150307

>that's the only way you'll ever get it.

>tfw you hate Conflag staff but it's apparently "the best"

>>122151283
Isn't the beam staff also 'the best'?

>>122151283
The best in this game is what you're the best with, if you can get more shit done with the fireball staff in your group, then go for it. Conflag is just a good fallback staff because it doesn't ff and that's a huge bonus in pubs

Conflag isn't bad but Beam feels better to me

>popping strength pot and roasting like 50 rats with ease

Does the strength pot affect ranged attacks or not
And whats the multiplier

>>122151283
>tfw you are trying to get loot for the Witch but the only staff you have is a White rarity Bolt Staff.

>>122152265
[vomiting and screaming]

>>122151283
I think beam staff is way better. No cast time and the ability to rapid fire it in situations where you're in a bad spot with a horde bearing down on you make it so much better than the conflag staff for getting out of tough situations.

Beam is actually useful as well - stunlocking runners and, to a lesser extent, other specials, and the range + accuracy is great. With a strength pot, it does huge damage to ogres, as well. Beam does have strong friendly fire, but that's also helpful if you're actually looking to down teammates, such as before using healing supplies.

>>122152265
using a particular class doesn't increase your chances to get loot for it, just use anyone

>>122152257
strength pot affects all attacks, even bombs

>>122152695
I dunno about that. I only play elf, as in haven't even completed a mission with any other hero and my loot is firmly weighted towards WW gear.

I feel like such a shitter whenever I'm taking damage from trash rat hits but at the same time I don't know how do stop it from happening because the majority of hits come from outside my FoV while I have teammate on my flanks.

>>122152982

>not using 360 fov and spinning around 2400 RPM constantly

Looks like you have to some basic meta research.

>>122152695
I agree with >>122152784 my only Orange weapons are for Dwarf, my main character, and ever since I started learning Witch I have seen staffs much more frequently in the loot tables, I just keep fucking missing them by 1

>>122152784
>>122153627
And I'm inclined to say you're full of shit because I play almost exclusively dwarf and BW and I keep getting fucking 4 elf swords on my loot tables.

>>122153627
>>122152784
really? because i play witch and witch hunter frequently, and get loot for every class but those two

>>122153802
You can believe anything you want m8, I just think it would be too much of a coincidence.

>>122152982
It's all about positioning, Your team should be watching your back and you watching theirs. This is how I lose health 90% of the time. You can mitigate it by keeping your head on a swivel, but if you're facing a horde down, one of your team needs to pick up the slack and pick off any that get pushed behind/spawn behind.

I always play this kinda roll with my group because they're tunnel vision as fuck and I need to carry them I play elf and can do everything pretty well and therefore am able to respond to anything usually resulting in my coming top across the board but bragging aside the issue I have when pubbing is that so many times you'll get people just hanging back and expecting you to protect them from the front while they lazily cast fireballs or try to snipe the stormvermin across the map in the middle of a tide. Worst part is when a tide spawns from a new direction they retreat and either let it sandwich the guy in front or reach critical mass instead of cutting it off while it's manageable. Back supports the front. Not the other way around.

>>122153927
>>122153802
>>122153627
What this says to me is that by exclusively playing a class you can weight the table, but by splitting your time between multiple heroes you don't get it, so playing 2 heroes is the same as playing all 5. Worth a thought maybe? Try playing 15-20 games in a row with one class and see how it affects you?

I might be just lucky but I've got 4x the weapons for WW easily.

Did the devs say anything about how we will be able to acquire red weapons? I'm sitting on a relatively small pile of oranges and I need to know if I'll need a shit fucking ton of them for red weapon to know if I'll have to farm for more or if I can give myself a break so I don't burn out from the game before the update is out, as I already have 150 hours on it.

>>122154539
Either they're going to be completely based around getting 7 rolls, like red hats or they'll require crafting, since we'll finally be able to do something with unwanted exotics.

>>122154539
In store cash shop to buy special die.

>>122154539
>The free DLC will introduce a number of new features including player control of what loot is dropped in-game and a new altar in the Inn, that provides ways of sacrificing existing loot to improve the player’s arsenal. In addition to this, the DLC will include completely new traits added to the loot tables and new, unique weapon drops in the “red” loot class for each of the 40 weapon types in Vermintide. Each red weapon features a set trait combination, taking top tier gameplay to a new level.

>>122154226
That makes sense, I only notice the change when I play a class for several consecutive games.

>>122154747
>Each red weapon features a set trait combination

This. I like this. I hope they've done away with the stupid fucking chance variance for this tier, too.

>>122155472
I wouldn't mind chance variance if they allowed us to re-roll traits or even swap them out for others through an investment of crafting materials.

All the combinations of traits are pre-set on all the weapons already. Only the roll on the proc chance is RNG.

>>122155780
That's also true. Being allowed to re-roll would be great.

A couple hours ago I got a long sword for the bright wizard - bloodlust, earthing rune on normal attack and devastating blow. Really lucky, even if earthing was on normal attack. I
I got the lowest possible rolls - 10% on earthing and 3% on bloodlust.

Sorry for the blog but I am still pissed and wanted to vent to a bunch of anonymous strangers who will forget me after this post.

>>122156295
That's the awful thing about it all, it's so rare to get an exotic with 3 good traits and all of that can be ruined by bad proc rolls. Way too much fucking RNG involved with loot.

>>122155780
That's a pretty neat idea, I would be OK with that.
Have you considered telling Fatshark about it on Twitter or something? I like to think they take feedback into account.

>>122157014
Fatshark lurks all places the game is discussed :)

>>122157186
Can you stop changing the grimoire addresses? I really wanted to use cheat engine and get myself that grimoire health trinket.

Has anyone gotten a Bodkin bow yet?

It's mentioned on the VT site and I just saw a tooltip for it but I've never seen or even heard of anyone using it.

It's not the longbow either as the arrowhead is clearly a braadhead.

>>122157909
>that trinket

They need to make that one more common than the others. At least before you actually have it.

It seems like it's a very important trinket to have.

>>122157909
>too retarded to even cheat

holy shit kill urself my man

I just found out bots can actually take tomes if the way to getting right next to one doesn't involve any crouching or jumping. This means you can actually do a 3t1g run of Enemy Below on Cataclysm for a guaranteed success since pubs are more awful than bots and you can run ahead full speed since the bots will just teleport to you anyway.

>>122159493
Bots will still immediately drop tomes if they spot medpacks and don't know how to function in the presence of special rats.

>>122159493
Bots prioritize healing items. If you run into any draughts or kits they will drop it and not pick it up again.

The most you can do is 2t1g if you're quick enough to be greedy with all future healies.

Anyone play FO4? Is the melee as satisfying as this or is it still like Skyrim wherein you just keep swiping like your slicing at air?

>>122160017
It's a bethesda game on gamebyro, what do you think?

>>122158163
Definitely one of the best trinkets in the game.

>>122159594
>>122159720
Well that sucks, but still sounds doable with a bit of luck and medkit hogging. Since Fatshark is so focused on the bots' AI they could make it so if you highlight a tome a bot will drop its healing item and pick up the tome instead.

>exploits fixed
>the only games up are still HoM
>pubs fall apart completely on any other missions


for fucks sake

>>122160604
Just wait until people realize Enemy Below is easier to do than Horn of Magnus. Which will never happen because ruining an EB run is as simple as walking forwards too much at the very end and down the toilet goes your last 20 minutes if a pubbie decides to do just that.

>>122160604
They aren't too bad on nightmare, except for Well Watch, that one seems nearly undoable with pubs.

>>122160839
>Well Watch
>not Wheat and Chaff

>>122160980
After the nerf W&C is fairly easy.

Is this game worth the $24 it'd cost on GMG?

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>>122158163
I had no idea that trinket was even a thing until about ten minutes ago when I noticed our bright wizard still had a fuckton of health during our 2 grim runs.

Was also an excellent bright wizard, which is always a plus.

>>122160495

>still sounds doable

Only if you get really lucky. Watched a bot bright wizard stand in a corner 30 feet away from the group tonight because she saw a special rat through a wall and was trying to chase after it. One of many such instances I've experienced with the bots since the patch.

>Trying to finish the story
>Noone wants to play White Rat on hard____ because the exploit is fixed

Sometimes I hate this community.

>>122162134
What is your steam name? Make a lobby and I'll help.

warning i'm an elf

>>122162397
Well
>I don't post my steam name
>I only play Elf
>I'm an Ausfag

So I doubt you'd be able to help.

>>122162973
Ok filthy

>>122162134
The problem is you get absolutely nothing from failing a mission, and doing anything other than Horn of Magnus means people won't get 3 tomes and 2 grims which means shit loot, so nobody wants to do it. Fatshark should have first and foremost found a way to incentivize people to play w variety of maps before trying to fix the loot system.

>>122163318
Something like every time you clear every mission you get a bunch of free rolls.

It would need to be a lot to make it worth while

>>122163318
But what about doing a mission for fun?

>>122163492
Nah, just something like MGSV's or PD2's system of diminishing returns. Every run on a map you do increases the amount of whites or moves the loot table down a difficulty. Playing other maps replenishes the table. Playing 'Random' nets you a bump up type thing

>>122160017
>>122160110
The melee is a bit slower in my opinion, in Fo4.

I've only tried using medium speed weapons out of fast and slow and they can feel kind of sluggish at times. Like a ghoul or raider will get a hit in on me in between my strikes.

Melee is definitely not as strong as in New Vegas, but I feel like with the right weapon it can be satisfying. Your strikes have a certain weight behind them I think.

Vermintide's melee is superior of course though.

>>122161365
Yeah, it's a really fun game. I have 92 hours on it and I'm not bored of it. Granted I play other games in between, but this game is pretty damn good. Cool characters, cool maps, and it's Warhammer Fantasy.

You can probably get it a tad cheaper from cdkeys or g2a though. Collector's edition too if that interests you.

Daily reminder that Fat Shark will not "fix" the loot system because it is not broken in the first place. All they are doing is adding ways to improve the loot you already have, but the majority of the system will still be based on RNG.

Despite what faggots tell you, this is not a bad thing.

>>122166450
>All they are doing is adding ways to improve the loot you already have

Which is fixing the loot system.

>>122166450
Please go back to r/fatshark.

>>122167297
>I run HoM for shiny swords

>>122167839
Cool projection, dude.

They ever going to give Lohner his rag?

>>122170630
I concur.
He'd really need that rag.

>>122171671
His lack of rag is ruining the game for me.

Does.... does the normal longbow even exist? I had a white one at one time, and that is the only one I've ever seen. I'm pretty sure I got it as a level up reward.

I've gotten three orange hagbanes and two orange trueflights, as well as a couple of blue and green swift bows. What does the longbow loot icon even look like?

>>122172340
110 hours played only as elf and I think I've only ever seen a single exotic one on the board.

Pretty sure it looks very similar to shortbow.

>>122049623

is that skaven turning into the skaven version of doof-warrior?

>>122163318
You get XP, and every single one of the main maps is either faster or easier if not both than HoM.

People not getting tomes/grims is your problem, Ive never had an issue.

>>122163739
Those are awful systems because they penalize players for playing things they want to play.

Its would be even worse here since you will end up with missions without grims/tomes half the time picking random.

>>122165298
Are those sites safe to buy off of?

>>122057006
What sites?
Australian here, game is a bit precious at $42 considering it'll have tons of DLC.

>>122174620
http://www.nuuvem.com/item/warhammer-end-times-vermintide
You need a Brazillian proxy/VPN to purchase. There are some guides around on google.

I'm Australian as well, and I think when I bought it the collectors edition came to 24 AUD (the collectors edition is shit though, so don't buy that one).

>>122174831
Woah shit what?
Tutorial me Anon, I want those dumb fucking hats.
Please I want to slay rats with you
That seems pretty bank-unsafe, but thanks a ton for the link. What kind of pay would be best for that?
Paypal?

>>122174831
>>122174908
Interested also, how does one purchase something that wants Brazillian Real though?
Does it just auto convert at the exchange rate through paypal or something?

>>122175004
It auto-converts through paypal, but whatever you fucking do make sure that you do it safely.
When I did it, I changed my paypal password to something else, paid through a proxy, and then changed it back. I think though, since the payment is made through a secured connection (https) that it is safe.
I'm fairly sure there is a way to pay without being connected to the VPN, but I'm not sure.

Just google "buying through nuuvem" or something, or "buying through nuuvem with hola". There are a few guides.

>>122175129
Thanks man.
Not sure how you'd pay through poxy but my internet skills are weak when it comes to money, tend not to buy online.
I'll see if I can figure this out.

>>122175163
Actually, if you haven't bought it yet, I'm not sure sure it will work anymore.
There is a disclaimer that says:
>This game cannot be activated outside South America and some countries from Latin America (BS, BZ, CR, SV, GT, HN, NI, PA).This game cannot be activated outside South America and some countries from Latin America (BS, BZ, CR, SV, GT, HN, NI, PA).

I can't remember if that was there or not when I bought it.

>>122175129
"This game cannot be activated outside South America and some countries from Latin America (BS, BZ, CR, SV, GT, HN, NI, PA)." ?
The guides about Nuuvem mention if they display a region lock message it won't work.

I mean it worked for you, clearly, but that's worrysome.

>>122175419
>>122175452

Dammit, anywhere else you can think of?
I don't think this game is popular enough or been around long enough to see if that message is really indicative of a region lock or just a legal discourager.

>>122175685
That disclaimer does mean it can't be activated. It got added recently.

Here are some alternatives:
http://www.allkeyshop.com/blog/buy-warhammer-end-times-vermintide-cd-key-compare-prices/

The first site, "instant gaming" looks fine, and has some sort of reputation (and specifies that it is a global key).

>>122175904
Well lets go with that.
I'll grab four, because actually have a ton of friends that want to play this.
Maybe do that as one purchase, see if I get it and it works, then do three more.
Thanks a bunch, hopefully see you on the killing fields.

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In which ways have you begun to reconcile with the fact that your character will never look this cool?

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What's up there

>>122178665
A bomb! Just like Okri used to make.

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>>122178665

Why do people complain about the loot system when it's practically the same with all other games that have loot in them?

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>>122180727