/twg/ - Total War(hammer) General

>>121540792
Is Rome 2 good yet

>>121541469

yes, its called attila now

>>121541516
What about Rome 2 itself

>>121542280
Better than Attila.

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>>121542375

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I want to do a Medieval 2 run but I don't want to play vanilla, whats a good mod /twg/?

>>121543887
Stainless Steel or Bellum Crucis

>>121543887
Stainless Steel or Bellum Crucis for Medieval setting

Call of Warhammer/Third age for fantasy setting

>>121543887
call of warhammer, if you want to bugger around you can get the 1.6 ersion with giant units working too.

>>121544048
>>121544143
>>121544157
appreciate it

>>121540792

Who here would have preferred a CA/TW spin on WH40k, and not vanilla WH?

The original DoW by Relic was great, Dow2:MOBA WH40k not so much.

Fantasy WH is just a snoozefest to me. It was so bad that even GW practically nuked it in the most recent installment.

>>121544851
NOPE

NOPE NOPE NOPE

total war warhammer is every thing i ever wanted and fantasy is perfect for the total war team.

>>121544851
40K wouldn't work. Same reason WWI or WWII wouldn't work

>>121544851
I really prefer fantasy. We wouldn't be enjoying the Old World on TW if GW hadn't foolishly nuked it.

>>121544851
40k wouldn't work with Total war, leave 40k to relic

>>121545519
>>121545097
>>121544994

I suppose I was more referring the 4x, RTS, strategic level gameplay--not necessarily the tactical level RTT gameplay.

DoW: Soulstorm captured the 4x strategic level gameplay well; but CA has a better handle on it.

>>121544851
>Who here would have preferred a CA/TW spin on WH40k, and not vanilla WH?
I prefer better Warhammer instead of both of them.

>>121546028
I'd be okay with a galactic 40k campaign. but i don't think CA is the best choice for it.

I'd also be okay with more tactical level game play in 40k.

>>121547438

Sins of a Solar Empire is probably the better base for 4x-type 40k.

Ideally, though, some kind of turn-based with a heavy military focus would be great.

I don't like naval battles, so I'd prefer they just play out like Paradox plans with Stellaris (modified dice rolls between assembled ships, no actual real-time control), but I'd love to be able to autistically manage ground campaigns on individual planets, and then get to play Men of War or Total War style land battles at the key moments.

>>121545417
This

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So I've been burning my way along northern Germania, razed Flevum which the Saxons then colonized, sacked Angulus (would have puppeted them, but I need to liberate Denmark from Angle rule first), and now attacking the Varinians to annex their settlement, and establish a stable base of operations on the Baltic.

I'll burn it down as soon as I finish up over here, of course.

>>121546295
So 40k?

>>121540792
that's probably one of the most fly helms i've seen in attila

>>121544994
Good thing the total war team won't be working on it eh

>>121543887
Stainless Steel for crusading and heavy cav rape, Bellum Crucis for historical, Third Age of you like LotR.

RoDG is my favourite though

>>121544851
40k wouldn't work at all for TW, DoW 2 was better in multiplayer than DoW through I agree the campaigns didn't have the same replay value.

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>mfw just found out world of warcraft and warhammer are two separate things

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>>121550128

I fucking love skirmishers. Their flaming javelins of death just melt any unit they shoot at.

>>121553189
it's ok anon, warcraft was based off of WHFB anyway

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>come to /twg/ expecting to find a like-minded community who enjoy playing vintage TW games like Rome 1 and Medieval 2 on sub-par rigs
>it's actually a bunch of fucking normies wanking over Attila and Rome 2 which they play on their £10,000 Alienware laptops
>they actually look forward to World of Warhammer TW rather than ridiculing it for the sellout hackjob that it is

Would anyone happen to know a better forum or discussion board than /twg/?

>>121554281
Just talk about Shogun 2 with me buddy

I'm poor, but I really want to give Attila a shot. Would it still be fun if I only bought the base game for 25 Trudeaullars, or are the DLC necessary for a fulfilling experience?

>>121554281

>being this edgy

I could run Attila on my 7 year old comp, that had only been upgraded with 4 gigs extra ram, a medium-tier ATI CPU, and a GTS 450.

I could run it really well after getting a $250 ATI GPU.

Attila is fun.

You're a faggot. Lots of people here play with Medieval, but most people aren't edgy cunts who will only play games that were released 10 years ago.

>>121554605

DLC are absolutely not necessary.

The base game includes at least 2-3 good campaigns - migrating barbars (worth two or more if you pick different tribes, the Alans in particular play differently with plenty of good Sarmatian cavalry, including horse archers), WRE survival, and now the Lakhmids if you want to play with a desert faction with Sassykid tech and buildings, but without the total easy mode of being the Persian Empire.

>>121554875
I tend to gravitate towards Heavy Infantry and "civilized" aesthetics, but I like to start small, will I find a faction to my liking?

>>121555129

Hmm, you could get the Roman Britain mod.

Alternatively, you could try the Lakhmids. They get Persianate architecture, and I think they can get Roman defector troops, which are heavy infantry decked out in Roman equipment, and even capable of Testudo.

>>121555129
civilized heavy inf while starting small is going to be hard without the DLC but the franks and saxons have loads of heavy inf, including based heerbann for the franks which are some of the best units in the game. Ostrogoths can also recruit roman units units from captured roman military buildings, but they can't build said buildings themselves.

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>>121555523
They can't get Roman troops, but they do get crazy good infantry

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>>121540792

> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>121555621
>>121555628
Thanks a lot! I'll try to wait until the Xmas sale.

>>121554281
I started tw with medieval 1 and played every total war since.

but I was playing warhammer long before that.

I'm hype for total war warhammer.

>>121554281
>vintage TW games

Vintage would imply they didn't age like milk

>>121554281

Atilla fixed almost everything wrong with Rome 2 (probably the weakest entry in the entire series) both stylistically and technically.

Vintage, vanilla Rome was good--but you've got your nostalgia goggles on a little too tight. It took a good year or 2 of work in the modding community to make a more hard core, historically faithful game than the original that was technically and historically satisfying.

>>121554281

The original Rome game was MUCH more fantasy than anything historically accurate.

Three Roman factions? Ancient Egyptians in Ptolemaic Egypt? That's pure fantasy.

>>121556069
shit was awesome though

>>121557779

>tfw you're conquering your way through German Sarmatia, and you besiege a town of Amazonian women with elephants

So much wtf, but I had to chuckle.

>>121557779
>people love the most fantastical and a-historic total wars
>complain about warhammer because muh history

>>121544851

Please go dive under a tractor.

>It was so bad that even GW practically nuked it in the most recent installment.

Remove yourself from existence

>>121553189

Blizzard ripped both their big franchises shamelessly off from Games Workshop after a licencing deal fell through.

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>>121561501

Did someone insult your favorite fictional setting? Oh noooooo.

WH is the less interesting, less successful, and less original ugly step child of WH40k

What's the point of total war: warhammer without any elves to rape and conquer under the boot of the glorious empire?

>>121561727

>40k is literally WH Fantasy but in space and was released five years after WH Fantasy
>"less original"

Ayy

>>121561727
>15 year old spess muhreen fanshit detected

>>121561806
unlike 40k High Elves and Empire are closely allied. Teclis taught humies how to use magic and established the first schools of magic for humans.

>>121563065
Obviously I meant dark elves. We would never betray out dear high elven friends.

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what are these little banners supposed to be anyway?

>>121554281
This should be a new copy pasta here on /twg/

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>>121563761

>The Empire
>Conquering the Dark Elves

You fukken wot.

You think a land as pressed and constantly besieged as the Empire has the time to cross an ocean to conquer an enemy that mostly doesn't even bother them?

>>121564162
Experience rank

anyone got the roll faction picture?

>>121564369
So your telling me I have to wait until the high elf/dark elf expansion to invade elves and I won't even be able to do it as the empire?

>>121564971

I mean, if they're put in the same campaign map I guess you could DO it.

A bit like you can start out as Denmark and go conquer Israel right away.

It'll just be hard and not make much sense I suppose.

I turned 21 today, fellas.

Fucking kill me.

>>121566858
happy birthday faggot

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I thought they fixed Rome II. Why is my bronze gate on fire?

And why the fuck do my barbar units sound exactly the same as in Attila? I can't fucking play this when I hear the same "MOUNTED WARRIOOOOOORRRSS" from Iberian mercenaries under Carthage as I heard from my Visigothic cavalry in Attila.

>>121568081

:^)

>>121568081
>sieges
>in any TW game
>fixed

just be glad you units can move off walls now

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>>121566858
Happy birthday anon. I turned 26 recently, so just remember, you're here forever.


Whaddya think /twg/ do I take it? I'm feeling merciful towards the WRE so I'm tempted.

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>>121568529
Jesus christ, I've been consolidating up north for a while and it seems that the Huns have been through.

>>121561806
>end tmes
>good guys conquer anything
kek

Really fucking hope CA has been given some freedom when making unit rosters and so on for the minor factions.

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>>121568964
>end times

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>>121568081

Went back to Attila.

281 fucking hours in, and now I learn that it DOES have direct artillery control. I knew Rome II had it, but there was no button in Attila, and it wasn't until I saw that it was linked to cinematic mode in R2 that I thought to look for a cinematic mode hotkey in Attila.

Fucking hell, I loved this feature in FotS, I'm pissed I didn't get to use this in any of my earlier battles.

>>121569881
first person for arty is so goddamn fun, even more fun when you cheese other people with it that don't know about it

>>121570327
I can't wait till warhammer because of those goblin artillery.

https://youtu.be/kYb9isGvk0k?t=177

>tfw have to wait 5+ years for CA to release Elves.
>tfw have to wait 5+ years to conquer Ulthuan as based Slayer King.

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>>121543887
Thera is a great time.

It's a bare knuckle brawl between different eras and peoples from history.

Multitudes of various cultures killing each other such as mongol samurai, vikings, Romans, Ottoman turks, Renaissance Germans, Conquistadors, monster men, Aztecs, Indian tribesmen, slavic blood knights, medieval French, Scott-Irish clansmen, Moorish caliphates, Russian boyars, English pirates and more still.

I'd say it's worth a go.

>>121570670
>tfw no Dwarf cavalry in Warhammer.
>no Dwarf Phalanxes.

Tolkien did Dwarves better desu. I hope database mods will be able to put Dwarves on those Chaos chariots.

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>>121570464

>>121570969
>Cheesing mages and heros with kamikaze goblins

I love history but this still looks like fun.

>>121571262
Just like the table top game.

>>121569840
>Archaon's return
>not End Times

>>121570936
>tolkien
>ram cavalry
kill yourself

>>121571665
They had it in BFME, I thought the trend might have come straight from the source.

>>121571707
>battlewagon
they were driven by random beasts
GO YE BEAST absolutely based

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Name a man more based than Mike Simpson.

protip: you can't.

>>121571327
CA have said that they're not including anything Endtimes.

The Chaos and Archaon shit is all Storm of Chaos.

>>121572078
>CA have said that they're not including anything Endtimes.
Source?

>>121572148
forum thread when they first showed the announcement trailer. How out of the loop are you?

>>121572148
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?687395-New-game-announced-Total-War-WARHAMMER&p=14480530&highlight=#post14480530

>>121572010
simon mann is pretty based

>>121572010
Fuck him, he is probably responsible for chaos being dlc.

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>>121572252
He obviously enjoys what he does and is passionate to fuck about Warhammer, but I'm not as big a fan of his actual work, I think he botched the "back and forth" dynamic he wanted for Attila.

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>>121572438
He's the Creative Director, so yeah he was. He explained his reasoning behind it nonetheless though.

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Name a man more shit than Al 'Just fuck my game up' Bickham

protip: you can't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY

>>121572456
what do you mean by the back and forth mechanic?
the wavering, breaking and regrouping thingy?>>121573114
its like darren went back in time

/gsg/ is talking shit about us again

>>121573654
Yeah, Simon wanted to make Attila a game of "dynamic snakelike frontlines" by giving units lower morale but a higher chance to recover.

I didn't see much difference desu.

>>121573818
>caring about what retard corner says about us.

>>121572539
What the hell did he get a BAFTA for?

>>121573818
>/gsg/
they must be waiting for their next DLC to be downloaded
>>121573910
wait, you really didn't notice that?
do you even barbar bro?

>>121574259
http://www.creative-assembly.com/news/100319/empire-total-war-wins-bafta-best-strategy-game

>>121574850
>>121574259
https://youtu.be/HS3BnEYGinc?t=175

>>121574850
>Empire winning anything.

Well BAFTA is usually pretty desperate.

>>121574850
>>121575006
Good god. It also looks like that category isn't around anymore either. Empire had to have been the death knell.

>>121572539
money?

>>121575816
Basically yeah.

>>121575816
In a sense, yes. His rational behind it was that it got them more money from the publisher so that they could build a bigger game. He claims that chaos warriors wouldn't have existed at all in the first game if they weren't preorder dlc.

>>121576034
More money to buy bigger yachts you mean.

>>121575720
Shogun II won it the year after, with XCOM after that and Papers, Please after that. Looks like it was discontinued after that though.

>>121576214
>newcom
>papers please

No wonder it died.

>>121576103
That's not how business money works anon.

>Hey Mike, how did you get your new yacht?
>I released a new preorder DLC for a game i'm working on, SEGA let me keep all the money, and it's not like I needed any of it for actually making games.
>Cool, any idea what you're going to name it?
>The Bane of Autists.

>>121576256
It got merged with Simulation, which makes the PP thing a bit more understandable.

Strategy gaming hasn't been too healthy the last few years, what with Paradox jumping the shark with DLC and Total War proddling along without innovation.

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>>121576362
Bane?

>>121576362
The way business works is that you're assigned a budget and extra profits is all pocketed by the boss.

>>121576649
Nice a The Dark Knight Rises quote.

https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_5_Friendlies


should we arrange a friendly vs /gsg/?

http://strawpoll.me/5941229

>>121578431
naa, we always lose.

>>121578451
I don't see them ever giving chaos warriors for free. If they did that they would need to move up another faction that was planned later to become the preorder bonus. That faction probably won't be in the state to be released so soon.

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ded

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Deader than an opium addict

How's TW:Arena?

>>121555712
Die tombkek?

>>121564369
Need pointy eared sex slaves

>>121570898
Who can fight best? Aztecs, Romans, Prussians, Asians, King Arthur or Vampires?

What a based mod

>>121576034
Meaning his company was willing to ship an even more half assed game if they didn't get their jewish needs satisified.

>>121576750
Hahaha, man we are all so fucked, there are way too many people that think this is how it works.

has rome 2 ever been on steam discount sale?

I want to play it but I won't pay $50 for it

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>playing dei
>graphics lag mod doesnt work anymore
>attack city in a 10k battle
>black screen after 5 minutes, not crashing but just the visuals crashing
>happens twice

What

>>121564369
>that world map

where did I see it before?

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>>121585494
>Look it up
> http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/145014-Game-and-voice-working-but-get-black-screen-randomly?s=2154b2828459e5451d0722a4bf7a9595
>official thread with no solution

Ok then

>>121585419
Has been time and time again

>>121584632
get geheimnisnachten
play norsca

>>121585914
guess I'll have to wait

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GOOD LUCK BRO

IM BEHIND 7000 HOPLONS

>>121586450
Non-chaos norscan master race. Chaos is a crutch.

>>121588692
Good luck yourself, I'm hiding behind a dozen stacks of 20 camel archers

>>121589494
that was the enemy army actually.

I attacked Rhodos and 7000 spears emerged and began moshing together into the pit you see there. It might have been because I had artillery, but it still doesn't make any sense. They continued to mosh in circles until my game black screened, as described here:
>>121585494
>>121585851

I'm going to try turning off unlimited video memory and see if that helps

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Attila ain't got shit on river crossings

>>121591007
Who's the blue?

>>121591007
>Ally
ah man I love ally battles
>let them duke it out with the enemy
>snipe their general with artillery when they're winning
mop up the rest of the enemy when ally routs

I bought Rome 2 instead of Atilla because the unit icons at the bottom of the screen are cooler. They're paintings instead of boring 3D models.

>>121592616
Okay.

>>121592616
Alright

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>>121592616

>>121592616

Alrighty

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>unit speed not shown in rome 2

>>121585619
Tolkien?

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>>121564369

>>121555869
>(probably the weakest entry in the entire series)

Anyone who says this can't possibly have seen Empire at launch (or at all, really, that game is beyond repair entirely)

Next to Empire, Rome 2 was flawless

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>>121596456
Saving this so I can laugh at your retardation in 20 years

>>121596437
It's like the whole world had the same unfortunate accident that is Norway's coastline

>not using the Terminus Total War - Roman Revolution mod for the true Roman experience

It's like you guys don't want to revive the Empire.

>>121597779
And to top it all off, the coastline of notNorway that should be like that is pretty tame compared to the rest of the map

>>121597431
>I never played empire at launch the post
Saving this so I can laugh at you next thread

>>121598442
Kek, you're right

Meanwhile the not-Americas are out of control

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Invasion of Rhodos

Pardon my shitty textures, but I'm going to dump this battle because PONTOS

I don't normally play sprites: the game but I had to just to run this fucking battle. Something about the city and the blobbing, idk. 1.1 desperately needs a performance fix like the old patch for toasters out there.

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Meanwhile, le how alexander would have done it: the faction

Did anyone else get an into Total War Arena recently. I just found it in my spam folder I think everyone who pre-ordered Rome 2 is now getting in.

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if the Gaugamela feels weren't there yet, they are now.

Their cavalry charge to my right, basically asking my companion cavalry:

>just fuck my shit up

my cav turn into the infantry main body.

Do you use any StartPOS mods for Attila (shit like Fertility +1, turns per year, Sassanid rework, etc)? If so, what do you use? Just curious.

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I'm careful with my micro, making sure not to commit too much or blob anywhere. The key is sending then all around to attack everywhere, and then converging.

>>121600092
>preordering R2 got you the Arena access
oh right

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The enemy's rear evaporates under hundreds of angry men and horses; my axes and thureos swords on my left flank push their advantage.

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My companions spread out evenly across the enemy line, second wind/wedge formation.

my friends

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and here it is.

the greatest strategy ever

the most true understanding

the most strategy

the

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...Hammer and Anvil: The Faction

P O N T O S
O
N
T
O
S

And then I slaughtered the innocents and razed the city, the end.

>>121600476
You don't have to micro in DeI, just gruppe all your kavallerie und spam charges at der thickest enemy blob.

>>121601459
In my experience they fuck up when blobbed and are most effective when you keep dragging them through into other targets. I basically melted their rear and charged straight through to their frontline, and i did it by spreading all around them and dragg ling them as wildly as i could. If your cav is inside another unit and you tell it to charge another behind it, theyll charge through the blob killing anyone in their way, and they keep moving forward with the spear instead of drawing swords. Theres a bit of micro to be done.

>>121602159
Since you have all the time in the world to spam hammer and anvils in DeI your microing is only saving you a couple minutes.

>>121602597
The new update revamped the DEI battle mechanics so it's a lot faster now.

Anyone here watch the Massive Battles series?

https://youtu.be/hOVZd8AKK7o

I'm hoping we get battles like this in Warhammer.

>>121602597
>>121603268
Battle was 8 minutes btw

>>121603312
You can't have massive battles in TWWH.

>>121603735
You can with multiplayer/allies.

>>121603312
>>121603851
they'll come in waves as reeinforcements. It just feels right and is more challenging.

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>>121603429
>8 minutes
>barely a scratch on the infantry

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>>121603975
Having a system like that actually gives us a bit of a back and forth too, like the glorious Mann (pbuh) envisioned.

>>121604839
Oh geez, so there's a 4th Mann brother? This is getting ridiculous
Not even sure which one I work for at this point

>>121604839
I cannot agree more. That is why I preordered total war warhammer and you should too.

>>121604219
I dont understand what youre trying to imply.

>>121605727
I'm saying the battles in DeI is still slow and you have plenty of time to spam charges.

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>>121603975
>>121604839
>>121605142
Die shills

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>>121605142
I couldn't agree more fellow Total War™: WARHAMMER® customer! I feel like The Create Assembly has delivered another critically acclaimed edition to their award winning series with this game!

Hey, which of the three Legendary Lords™ are you thinking of playing when you finally get a chance to play the Total War™: WARHAMMER® - Chaos Warriors Race Pack™? All three I hope!

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>>121606050
>that image
>tfw Vampire Counts never ever.

>>121605998
Fuck off and die /pol/, this has to be one of the worst shit I've seen on the Internet and I've been here an awfully long time..

>>121606574
But you don't understand, it's funny because it's a scene from a movie with their heads changed to be edgy and cool! All my friends at /b/ loved it!

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>>121606574
You havent seen much then ;3

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>>121606721
>>121606574
Sorry forgot my trigger warning

What exactly are the applications of each kind of skirmisher? Archers are better at range against unarmoured units, slingers are better against other skirmishers, javelin are better against armoured opponents especially from behind or flanks? I really don't know when to use what

Reminder that 1453 was an inside job
Constantine XI destroyed the walls himself so that he could be whisked away into the strong arms of the Ottoman Sultan

>>121608421
All correct except slingers are your mid tier armor penetration and are better than archers for that.

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What you gonna do when Hexwraithmania comes after you, meatbag?

That's right, you'll be dying to cavalry that can phase through buildings and terrain.

>>121610885
Why not disguise yourself as a rock and watch them phase through you

>>121611775
Presumably because them phasing through something living fucks it up in some horrible way.

>>121594972
nah looks suspiciouslly similar to our world's map heh

>>121612175
but wood is organic material, so just build everything out of wood and you'll know they're coming

>>121598498
He's right though, Empire at launch at least the AI could move its units. However Empire was never really fixed even to this day, it is easily the worst in the series.

>>121612558
Unless the effect on living things is more of a mental thing like it completely shatters your mind.

>>121606574
Can't flim flam the zim zam tumblr

>>121613721
But what happens to orks, does it make them civilised?

>>121613721
Apparently it's worse than that:
>Spectral Hunters: After a unit of Hexwraiths moves in the movement phase,you can pick an enemy unit it moved across. Roll a dice for each Hexwraith that passed across it; for each roll of a 6, that unit suffers a mortal wound.

>>121613721
So listen for the wood to start screaming.

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>oh man this is going to be so great
>n-nevermind

Will CA ever fucking fix cavalry charges ever ever? Will it ever be possible to have them fucking charge through and keep on moving?

>>121615128
Not as long as they stick to the Warshit engine.

>>121616839
>implying the previous engine had good charges
Kek

>>121615128
>cavalry sliding around

Nothing bothers me more in terms of visuals than that

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>every time there's a total war sale I'm either taking a break from it or are playing a different game in the series and I forget to buy the otomo DLC

FUCK. I WILL NEVER ENLIGHTEN THE NIPS WITH THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR

someone post the roll image for attila please

also, if playing The Last Roman should I deactivate FotE? Are the units balanced around it yet or not.

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>>121621386
Why don't you buy it during the break like an investment and then come back to play it when you feel like it

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1 Huns
2-3 WRE
4-5 ERE
6-7 Migrating barbars
8-0 Desert Kingdoms

>>121621386
You could literally just convert to Christianity as any other faction.

Was wondering about DeI and its relation to DLC factions - do they essentially make them superfluous since non-DLC ones in the same area will also have good rosters and shit? Will DLC factions be essentially useless since their unit roster is changed around with the mod? Fuck I hate DLC factions

>>121621386
It was pretty much my favorite playthrough. Gunning down endless hordes of nips with my white armies

>>121622402
What kind of attack leaves such a deep scratch into a metal helmet and such a superficial wound on skin, and also on that shape and at different depths (considering his helmet is centimeters ahead of his eye)? I mean what kind of attack or accident was that?

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So this is my Pontos campaign so far.

So far I like how multipolar the world is. Carthage is huge, Rome is huge, Greece recently united to face the threat of Rome, all the major barbar cultures are still relevant, egyptians are relevant, and the eastern cultures have eliminated bactria and solidified themselves against the sillykids. Speaking of which, they're monstrous, which is awesome because they used to get rekt easy; they're my defensive allies right now but we all know what eventually has to happen. Right now I'm just focusing on conquering armenia, then I'm going for total control of the black sea-. After 80 turns of relative turtling, it's interesting to see how closely it resembles history without my involvement.

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>>121553189

>tfw no Warcraft mod for Medieval 2

I have no idea how to build my settlements in DeI

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>>121622470

but I can't fuck shit up with those hella sick Portuguese units and the superior gunpowder units

>>121621803
Because I just simply forget.

I'm not even sure if TW DLC goes below 50% in sales anymore either. I remember waiting like 3 sales for empire DLC to go below 50% and it never did so I just bought it at 50%. Then not too long later there was that TW humble bundle sale with a shit ton of the games and DLC

>>121626702
>Industry town
>build mines and other shit that supports industry
>Slave town
>build shit that supports slaves and industry
>Farm Town
>build shit that supports farming
>Commerce town
>build shit that supports commerce

Fakin ez m8

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COULDN'T DO IT

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>>121630714

DID IT

turn 2, suck it alaric.

this is my first roman campaign I'll probably get BTFO anyways

>>121630714
You allowed Alaric to survive. You failure.

>>121631460

There's two DeI collections on Steam, one with 5 parts from Selea, another with 6 parts from Dresden.

Which one is legit?

>>121632604
Don't quote me, asshole.

Also, get the six part one.

Are there any mods for rome 2 that make it so you have to compete or bribe for positions in the cursus honorum?

>>121631348

Happens, I had my current rome game blow up due my vassals getting uppity. I dont understand how the sassykids gets to keep their chain of memeorbirters. Mine always breaks away after being held for long enough about 5-7 years.

Current in a campaign where I absorb German lands up to the angles and before Heryncia. Not exactly sure what I will do with the rest of the nodicks and the alaman that are still posing a threat. My campaign finances also dropped from nearly 20,000 a turn to 11,000 right now but my armies also got big as fuck.

>>121632882

Oh, sorry, I use the quote feature to bring up the reply window without scrolling back up top, usually I delete the actual quote, but I just forgot this time.

And thanks.

Does DeI solve the fucking gate-burning bullshit? It bothers me so much that I might just wait for Ancient Empires to be released for Attila.

>>121632882
>asshole
No bully

>>121633186
I really hate war vassalising
>they hate you for the past war
>your allies hate you for "peacing out"
>your enemies hate you for military actions against their friend

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I've taken a break from TW for over a month and now I returned hoping that a 24 turnns per year mod for the Imperator Augustus campaign had been released for DEI but nope. Even though Dresden was kind enough to inform us he'd updated it for patch 1.1 he still refuses to answer a simple question :^)

>>121636303
also anyone wanna play some multiplayer battles?

Medieval 2 maybe?

how many cities are in Rome II?

maps look forsaken as hell

Empire or Napoleon? Looks like Napoleon is just a glorified expansion a la Attila

>>121637052
Napoleon for superior battles and better multiplayer. Empire for better campaign map

>>121637162
Thanks. Probably going to load up Empire then.

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How do you
fight horse archers armies?

Do you think bottlenecking them on bridges is cheating?


I just can't stand losing my precious legions

>Sorry in advance for crappy resolution

>>121637453
There's a reason Attila and later the Mongols caused so much damage.

You don't fight a horse archer army. You get wrecked by it.

>>121637713
Why did no one ever develop a counter-tactic to horse archer armies? I mean, it isn't like nomads were new to people. The first civilization had to deal with them. The Romans had to deal with them. The Islamic world and Europe had to deal with them. How do you go so long with developing a way to defeat them.

>>121637917

In Europe the best solution would be to force the horse archers into a bottleneck like a river crossing. Then put your best troops at dealing with missiles ahead to block the crossing, support them with siege weapons like the scorpion to out range the horse archers.

I tried to use some crossbowmen, but it would only take 2-3 volleys from the horse archers to even kill a formation that was in loose ranks.

>>121637917
Because before the widespread use of gunpowder there was no counter other than getting lucky geographically, and even then that was sometimes not enough.

A bunch of Mamluks repelled the Mongols, but that was because they were a small force left behind while the leader went back to Mongolia after the death of the Khan.

>>121637917
Maybe there was no real counter against horse archers armies?

Maybe choosing terrain (where horse can't properly fielded, wooded, etc) or strategic movimients could be a counter IRL, but in RTW engine (at least in Rome 1) horse archers can even tear armies apart in city combat, whicht can be infuriating.

>>121637917
There were of course those speciale ones who managed to not only defeat but crush horse Archers armies.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman%E2%80%93Parthian_War_of_161%E2%80%9366

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jaxartes

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han%E2%80%93Xiongnu_War

A balanced army, critical use of foot archers and a brilliant tactician can beat a horse archer army, apparently

>>121624527
is that rome 2? what mods are you using?

>>121639540

Crossbowmen with defensive palisades set up would be able to deal with horse archer armies when attacked. Without defensive fortifications, or terrain to force their movement it is just stupid to engage the army.

Though I suspect in reality that horse archer armies would haver much less troops compared to what a regular army could field. Since for every man that can ride a horse and shoot would also need 2-3 horses each. Can't go to battle with the same horse you use to pull your shit. Can't go through a long battle without another stead to replace yours when it gets tired.

>>121637162
>better map
>1 (one) I (Unum) Uno Mono Uni region West West Germany

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Do you think this was absolutely necessary?

>>121640048
It's DEI, and if it was Rome 2, all the fun factions would be dead and the map would be filled with literally wohs

How long does it take to get roads? I have expanded most of my settlements in lands that can take it so that they all have road development. Tired of my armies taking forever to get around portions of the empire.

>>121640810
depends on the game

>>121640903

Attila. Colonia as WRE.

>>121641179

God dammit.

Could anyone please post the working version of this?

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>>121640527
One of the best battles I've had in my current campaign. An auxiliary army got engaged by the ostrogoths desesperately trying to rally to Napoca in Dacia, and lift the besiegeing army led by Valentinianus

3000+ ostrogoths against my 1500-2000 wearied army (it was its second battle in the same turn)

Those numerus illiricani really stooded their ground

Now I only need one more settlement to reconquer the Dacian province

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what kind of empire do you want Famius Maximus?

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>>121641553
>soon

>>121640245

One of the reasons that Eastern Europeans and the Chinese stalled behind Western Europe and Japan in military capability was that their armies were overwhelmingly oriented towards fighting horsefuckers, and not other civilized armies.

>>121637453
>>121638382

You can try forming up in a testudo square, but if the enemy is technically firing from behind you, even if the arrow arcs down at 80%, they still get to ignore the formation defense bonus.

Still, you could just try tanking them through their ammo. Unless they're Savarans. Fuck Savarans.

FUCK.
SAVARANS.

literally no counter except faster cavalry in equal numbers

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>>121642513
I feel these iazyges will cause me trouble sooner or later

>70 horsemen
>20 shock cav
>surround the general with melee horesmen as the anvil
>hit him with shock cav in wedge
>General takes 15 casulties and routes all the cav

I have the sinking suspicion they were underfire from crossbowmen. The AI seems to face no consequences from friendly fire, so if the ai decides it wants to field enough archers instead of spears you start getting into trouble.

>>121641553
>filename
But ignoring the minimap is required for Arena
I'm going to rambo the enemy teams tier 3 skirmishers and spearmen with my tier 2 cavalry and tier 1 swordsmen
WOW WTF HAX THIS GAME IS STUPID AND GAY

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>>121644207
My german limes has been in peace for a very long time (I believe around 10 years in a 6tpy game) altough pacifying it was the main objective in this campaign (SAI julianus 355 AD campaign)

I pay the franks, alammani, burgundi and visigoths tribute but it doesn't matter since I make plenty denarii - this is the cost of peace after all.

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>>121645112
funnily enough, these bastards have caused me the biggest pain in the ass.

Altough I've taken from them Dal Raida and Ichthuhill (now named Magnentiopolis and Pinnata Castra Victoria) they've been sending raids from Hibernia almost every turn (I suspect there is a script that creates those armies), So I had to sink all their fleets to prevent their invasions.

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>>121645641
The gaelic general's guard making a last attempt to break into the city

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>>121646391
these irish guys are not the brightest out there.

(I blame the besieging AI, they lose half its army as target practice for my towers and archers)

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>>121646656
Another irish raid, this time defeated by my Brittish Legion and the local converted christian gaelic levies

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We're outnumbered quite a bit, but I think we'll do okay.

Playing as WRE. Managed to get things settled. No more barbarians to threaten me. All that's left is to fix my public order.

How do I prepare for Attila? I have 5 or so years. What kind of units work best against the Huns? Is my cavalry any good against theirs, or should I go infantry + crossbow?

>>121637367
Get a mod that turns off fort building.

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Definitely glad I set them up this way.

>>121638632
Med 2 you just deploy stakes nigga

>>121640527
What mod?

>>121656682
wat

>>121656913
IB - SAI for Rome

>>121655065

I'm sorry anon, you're fucked if you're just now preparing for attila.

Simple guide for fixing public order though here. Look at a province, decide on sanitation. If you are going to have 13 or less squalor in the capital you can do this amazing strategy of two balnae (maxed out bathhouse) in each town. Gives 8 public order, your sanitation need, and 1700 gold all for 80 food. That, plus upgrading your towns to colonia (rank 2) gives you road connections eventually as well as +1 public order for 10 food.

Two bathhouses(80)+Govenors mansion (50 food), the city (30 food), auditorium (30 food), and two colonia (40 food)=230 total food.

In the worst climates you can expect 70 food from cows (-5 public order), 90 food from food emporium (-6 public order), 90 food from fishing piers (-6 public order), So two cows+either a food emporium or a maxed out fishing pier will stabilize the food of the province and make it a rather decent money maker even in the worst of climates.

Here's the bonus public order from this system 13+7+3+1+1+4+4=33+
-5, -5, -6=-16

so a positive 17 from buildings, which on very hard difficult will still cause your province to stabilize. Down the road you may have problems with a lack of public order builds left you can build. Another weak, but cheap option would be monuments

You can upgrade the govenors house which will cost another 50 food from you. One option is to build a sheep barn which will give you the 50 you'll need at -5 public order which will be a -1 public order net gain. The other would require having a port, which would be food emporium (90), maxed out fishing warf (90), +2 cows (140) which is 330. So you can build the govenors mansion and upgrade the city to level 2 and still be producing a net gain of food.

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>>121656642
Hopefully they wont catch onto the fact that there might be some romans coming to stab their backs.

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>>121554281
wow, this

>try to play one of the two WRE factions in the clovis mod
>dead on turn 3 every time

So many barbar full stacks jesus

>>121657854
B-But I was busy fighting barbars ;_;

>>121540792
>War(hammer)
God this fucking general is awful

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>>121657962
>wew look at me I can flank

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>>121659632
These guys will all be gone in a second.

>>121658198
WE WAZ KINGS how many of you have migrated to /his/?

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>>121660116

So um... Total War Arena is uh... pretty bad. I don't wanna play total war to micro three units. I mean maybe if I had friends this would be fun maybe. I don't think Moba and Total War is good combination. Also are the special abilities how you win or is it the units? It's all very confusing.

>>121657795
If you deploy stakes from your archers right in front of the gate the Mongols will murder themselves on them.

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>>121660739
Arverni on suicide watch.

>>121661448
The abilities are better but yeah it's pretty much trash.

>>121662401
I don't know why the went ahead with this project. I can't imagine it making them any money at all. This is gonna be a huge flop.

>>121662684
Because CA is retarded? We have a lot of evidence of this.

>Gaetlatians
>defensive passive
>no trade relations with anyone
>offer him trade
>1400 gold per turn for him to gain
>better keep these jewels all to myself

its like he's asking to get invaded.

>>121662116
oh but you're talking about Med2 I haven't, played it long enough desu. I'm currrntly playing Rome 1

>>121663245
I honestly think this was an idea pushed down from Sega. I don't think CA wants to make a game like this. Then again these are the people that made Stormrise. I hope Warhammer doesn't play like this at all.

>>121661448

You need to stop thinking of it like a total war game. It's not meant to be played like a traditional total war game. Appreciate it for what it is and it's pretty fun all things considered.

>>121664593
It's not that bad, it just makes me want to load up a real total war game though.

>>121662189
>posted with my very hard to use legionaries

>>121664805

Well Arena isn't meant to be a substitute for main-line games, it's a different kind of experience and fun. I just think a lot of the people shitting on it just don't like that style of game, which is fine but it isn't meant for them.

I don't see what's wrong with a company trying to expand and try new things, it's not like the main games are going anywhere.

>>121664854
m8, give me a break. it's my first campaign.

>>121637453
>Do you think bottlenecking them on bridges is cheating?

I don't understand how anyone can think anything in war counts as "cheating." There's shit that evil and wrong and not doing it makes you morally superior, but in the end winning in war is far more important to the individual and society than any game.

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>>121554281
>Actually enjoying the gunpowder units in late-era M2TW.
>"Maybe Empire isn't so bad after all."
>Install it for the 17th time.
>MFW

The FAQ pastebin is dead

Dear senpai, haven't been here since very early Attila, is the game "done" at this point, or are they still working on DLC?

>>121669931
>he game "done"
This

>>121660353
I did but I'm staying clear for a bit. I got banned for making a joke about Israel, I think that place needs to have an armistice before I go back. Either that, or /pol/ wins the war and at least the place has free speech.

>>121669931
There may or may not be an awesome Charlemagne dlc. But other than that, yes, they seem done with Ayam a Dealah.

>>121667702
I installed Empire twice - shortly after release and years later after lots of modding and patching.

Neither was enjoyable.

I didn't mind Rome 2's release so much. It had problems, it was disappointing, but it worked and wasn't terrible for me. Empire remains the biggest let down, especially because it was so ambitious and failed so spectacularly. Napoleon is my favourite TW game, but the scope is so limited.

>>121670330
I got a warning for making an extremely obvious sarcastic comment about black historical revisionism.

So for total war if what part of the computer does it use the most? Like if I wanted to build a computer for total war where should I put the most money in.

>>121671229
Unlike most games TW aren't console ports so they actually require a decent CPU. Don't even think about AMD.

>>121670918
As I said, at least /pol/ overlords guarantee free speech.

>/pol/ wins battle for /his/
>becomes mostly a satire board
>has high-quality /his/ posts on very limited topics
>free speech, but expect banter if left-wing

>/lit/ wins battle for /his/
>half-serious, half-high-level shitposting and memeing
>more frequent "good" threads on a larger amount of topics
>absolutely no free speech, anything right-of-center or anti-Marxist gets banned, Christianity and theology get a pass

The best scenario would be that people chill out and just accept banter is part of making new boards, but 4chan hasn't been mature enough for that in a while.

>>121671813
Both /lit/ and /pol/ are awful though

>>121671727
Hey, AMD can run vidya
Sure it takes 6 months of patches and updates in both the game and drivers and by that point the game has lost al its hype but you can still run it!

>>121672374
the level of "hype" around the game isn't going to change the game when you're playing it.

>>121672120
One is much more of a problem than the other. I don't want to make this too big of a discussion because it could be a very large tangent. /pol/ at least can claim they are very authentically 4chan, if the most childish expression. Modern /lit/ is very feminine, very nu-internet, doesn't belong here. They don't have much of a unified board culture, they just have memes and ideology. They are very person-focused, with the number of trips they have, rather than interest for or against ideas. They prize being "decent" and "quality" over being free or authentic. Them being the majority of multiple boards bodes ill for 4chan.

>>121673180
Its going to kill it for you though, because it takes 6 months to play on AMD but it takes 12 months to actually be worth playing

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>tfw EB2

medium cavalry

>>121543887

third age

>>121674441
Isn't "heaviness" determined by armor and the size of the man and horse?

>>121543887
Planetwar is the mod of the year all years for all games

>>121606473
Of course they'll do VC eventually, they're probably the single most-beloved army outside of the Empire.

>>121674617
yes, except for medium cavalry which isn't real

>>121664115
You can keep moving the blame for everything to Sega, but one day you'll understand that they're the same company.

>>121669931
Might be another campaign in the works but the DLC is all trash other than the latest one which introduces hilariously overpowered camels and hook-nosed infantry.

>>121674718
medium cav would be a soldat in chain armor as opposed to plate.

>>121671229
Here's what you do, you buy a very good i5 K, and then get a GTX 780 or something.

Attila has shit optimization so you shouldn't waste your money building a PC to max it.

>>121672120
As bad as /pol/ is, it's not nearly as bad as /lit/

>>121675390
it's not shit optimization, it's just built for the future. Don't listen to this guy. Hardware powerful enough to run Attila doesn't exist yet. Wait for better hardware before upgrading.

>>121675231
No, thats just light heavy cav or heavy light cav depending on the role

>>121675231
That's stupid. Fuck off soldat.

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Hello

Atilla player here, how do I stop Saxon faggots from being sub-human barbarians?

t. WRE

>>121676530
Shed their blood

>>121676793
I mean I'm overextended so I don't want another war but they keep wrecking my client states in Northern Europe while I'm fighting the Sassynids in North Africa.

What do they want? I have everything they want for trade, I have a strong Imperium, I am a popular leader, I have no other negative traits in their eyes save the war with the Sassanids yet everything else is high.

What the fuck.

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>>121676530
say that to my shieldwall not online see what happens u roman fucking shit my gedriht is fucking on call and ready to fuck ur homo """"civilized""""""" ass up if even think of forming testudo near me, geoguths fuckin on lock with javelins ready 2 go right thru ur pussy shield fucking hell u cunts kno nothing about shields and formin a fuckin wall stupid shits
PS me and me mates stopping by londinium l8r better keep a watch on ur wives they might be lookin for some treachery from our long knives ;)))))))))))
t. Gewis

>>121677274
Stinking GERMANIC lowlifes cannot be reasoned with my friend. All they wish is to destroy everything they in their path and steal true Roman (Hellenic) culture and enginerring for themselves. The thought of subhuman germanics shitting in the streets of the greatest empire of history disgusts me.

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>>121676530


Try attacking their enemies in order to gain their favour, or bribe them

That or you need to shed exactly 4000 filthy saxon men so that they stop being filthy saxon men