What is so special about Fallout NV that makes it different from

>>390179292
it's an actual RPG

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>>390179292
You didn't play it long enough and pay attention, the politics and rp in NV is actually extremely detailed. Obsidian put more details in NV than Bethesda did in 3 & 4 combined

Also, I claim this thread in name of Caesar.

>only played through Goodsprings
>wow this game sucks

>>390179292
The game world is built in a way that it feels internally reactive. Npcs, towns and quests don't feel like bubbles, they have a relation to Nevada in one way or another and the ways you can influence them feel realistic, you aren't eliminating hunger or stopping the apocalypse, you are slowly, bit by bit pushing your agenda on the wasteland that ultimately makes a big change.

>>390179292
Consistency

>>390179585

>God tier
House
>Meh tier
NCR
>Shit tier
Caeser, independent

give me the (you)s, you know I'm right.

>>390179292
you really get to make a character from scratch and create them into who you want them to be, no forced character or background story. you also get to make choices which will reflect on what your character is meant to be

nothing of this exist in Fo4 or Fo3, they are awful RPG's but good games

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>>390181478
>House
>God tier
>Just gamble away your money, goyim, I'll take you to the moon
Wew lad

>>390181829
Well what else would he use the caps for

>>390179292
>plays tutorial of a game
>"wow this game is so boring and sucks wtf"

Literal fucking retards on this board

>>390180639
I think this was why I enjoyed fo3 better than NV
it made me feel like an explorer alot more in 3 than NV did

the uninteresting dessert expanse and quite populated areas took that feeling away from me

Fallout 4 gave me the same feeling but it was destroyed by the shitty dumb down mechanics and rather lack luster areas reskinned to be nothing but dungeons skyrim style

>>390182041
What about investing it into public works and trying to free the wasteland of raiders and mutants creatures instead of LARP'ing about the "good old days" and trying to create a space age no one wants or will ever have except for a few corrupt families on the Strip?

>>390182359
>alot
>dessert
>quite populated areas took that feeling away from me
>I enjoyed fo3 better than NV

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>>390182827
This

>>390182359
Each to their own, even with all its faults fo3 did give you the impression of being thrown into a post apocalypse, which I understand isn't really the point of a fallout game (its more a post, post apocalypse in NV) but it's still a thrilling experience to wander across a barren, intimidating, mostly devoid of human habitation environment.

>>390182725
This is my big point. The only people who will benefit from house are the privileged few, no point to it.

it's good but /v/ overblows how good it is because they don't play many games.

it's like fallout 3 but with expanded gear and features, and better map design/writing/animations etc

>>390179585

the politics in new vegas are literally just the sides from politicalcompass.org

there's not as much depth to it as you think there is.

>>390183453
That would still be far more detailed than 3 or 4. I can't browse a single NV thread without seeing anons argue about fictional politics.

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>>390182048
>>390179710
He's just trying to start a NV thread

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>>390183378
Yeah, even though Obsidian gave it a lot of features and character that make it far more enjoyable, Bethesda did the grunt work of asset creation in 3.

>>390183358
>The only people who will benefit are you and some other rich fucks
How is this different from NCR and Yes Man though? The NCR is corrupt as fuck so having them win benefits the ((((few)))) while Yes Man is all about you.
>b-b-but id save the wastes!
You can still do that gay shit with the mountains of caps and relatively free reign that House will give you, if you so wish.
>but the NCR is nicer to the starving masses
Yeah I can't wait to be driven out of business by corporate elites, voting in a worthless hereditary democracy and having my kids conscripted to die in some foreign war

>>390183358
As opposed to the NCR who will tax everyone but not bother to provide fair value in return, Legion who are a swarm of violent murderous rapists lead by a guy who misunderstood every single thing he built his ideology on, or the independent ending where you have anarchy, a potential Skynet scenario, and a backstabbing fedora tipper at the helm. House is best because he sits in his little sanbox fleecing fools and building robots, leaving everyone else be.

>>390183926
>How is this different from NCR and Yes Man though? The NCR is corrupt as fuck so having them win benefits the ((((few)))) while Yes Man is all about you.
Neither promise the things house does.
>You can still do that gay shit with the mountains of caps and relatively free reign that House will give you, if you so wish.
House makes it pretty clear he doesn't care about the wastes outside of his bubble, arguably the place that needs his attention the most.
>Yeah I can't wait to be driven out of business by corporate elites, voting in a worthless hereditary democracy and having my kids conscripted to die in some foreign war
As opposed to having a literal unending tyrant telling you to leave because you make the scenery look bad?

>>390184187
House doesn't care about the rest of the wastes, but if you do (and why would you?) you still have the freedom and resources to fuck about playing saviour if you'd like. That's my point, everyone argues House is the worst option because he only cares about a space program but you're the right-hand man and so can live in total luxury or undertake the projects you want.
>Total tyrant
Well you can't have a space program, immorality, immense wealth and bitches without there being some catch. Even after doing quests for the Boomers/Kings/whoever I kind of didn't care about them, so if they have to get screwed over for my benefit (and maybe mankind in the long run?) then so be it.

>>390184187
>House makes it pretty clear he doesn't care about the wastes outside of his bubble, arguably the place that needs his attention the most.
Why is he obligated to? It shows that his focus on Vegas has made him more successful than the NCR or Legion's empire building
>As opposed to having a literal unending tyrant telling you to leave because you make the scenery look bad?
House isn't that petty. He has a plan, he makes sure he has people working towards that plan, removes anything that could inhibit that plan even a little, but beyond that he doesn't care what people do. If the Courier in his employ wants to improve the standard of living in Freeside, House has no reason to care as long as the plan keeps going.

>>390179292
It's not a bad game, but NVBs are obsessive autistics so it is overhyped as fuck on /v/ at least.

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>>390183453
>Political compass asks questions about the Hegelian Dialectic
>Political compass gets into transhumanism vs primitivism
>Political compass gets into Hobbesianism vs Rousseau-esque enlightenment values
Wew lad

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>>390184741
>and why would you?
Well said , fellow spook dodger!

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>>390185364
I fucking love these comics

>actually get rewarded for exploration, its not just "go there and do this" type of open world. you extend the gameplay much more if you explore
>quests are innovative and interesting
>soundtrack is cool
>NPC's don't feel scripted at all, some of them appear in different places and the conversations are different depending on what you are doing
>main radio station is changing its broadcast depending on what you are doing in the game
>all factions are interesting, dialogues are funny and witty
>your reputation matters later in the game so you can't just kill people
>side quests are just as good as the main quest
>factions have some sort of animosity towards eachother, which expresses itself depending on what you do, you can't just join all factions like in other games
>have to choose sides eventually. can't be the "hero" everyone wanted

>>390179292
Superior role playing
Superior choices in quests
Many branches/paths to finish one quest
Factions

>>390179487
This, a thousand times this. It is an actual RPG in which you can actually roleplay. You get to make choices that have concrete, impactful changes. What skills you invest in meaningfully changes the type of character you play(at first anyway, before you start edging toward endgame) and you can actually replay the game to play it in different ways with a different character.

How is this different from 3 and 4? There are no meaningful choices to be made in those games. Chances at roleplay are far, few, and weak. Fallout 4 especially is a glorified action game with few RPG trappings.

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>>390185364
>>390185261
>>390184975
>>390184860
high quality content, captures the feel of the game

>>390184860
This

>>390185578
>choices matter

I've eaten nearly everyone I've killed since becoming a cannibal at the beginning of the game, destroyed the REPCONN station, betrayed factions (before they reset at the end of MSQ with pardons), turned over Cass to due after having her as my companion for the majority of the game, and generally have just been a dick. I still have good karma. I should be evil by now.

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>>390185821

>Being a Fallout 3 fag
>Being a Fallout New Vegas fag
Tale of Two Wastelands is the only way to play.

>>390187304
Buying a shit game and installing a huge mod with severe compatibility issues so I could play the shit game in NV?

>>390186938
Because most of those actions usually fall under rep punishment rather than karma punishment. And because you probably ground Powder Gangers, ghouls and the Strip for karma.

>>390188041
>Buying a shit game
$2.

>>390188236
I don't want shit, even if it's free. There are better games to play.

>>390188227
Not him but
>playing a game as a Legion ninja
>going around killing everybody who could negatively impact the Legion and stealing everything that isn't nailed down
>kill one fiend
>I have very good karma now

>>390188675
Oh yeah, forgot the Fiends. Christ, those are a karma goldmine. Respawning laser-armed raiders that are everywhere around Vegas. Only thing more beneficial to your character is fucking debug.

>>390188227
Karma should have been removed entirely.

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I'd just like to remind everyone that the Followers of the Apocalypse remain the only faction in the series to be objectively good.

And that you can only get a good ending for them if you side with the NCR

>>390189475
Oh, the death squads are nice too. I love those free giftbags.

I don't care about character roleplaying and am just into video games for the power fantasy. Is Fallout 3 still good if I liked New Vegas and Deus Ex and never played Fallout 1 and 2?

>>390189527
The best ending is for them and the khans to leave Vegas to rebuild the tribe's empire (in Idaho I think)

>>390189880
I could easily get used to death squads. Trouble is that I prefer maxing my rep with factions and beating as many quests as I can without having to do stupid things like murder all of Camp Forlorn Hope, or take Cass anywhere near the Van Graffs and either kill her or ruin her best ending.

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>>390190047

Believe me, I'm well aware of that ending. I'm the anon who originally made pic related. That's an ending slide for the Khans, though, not an ending slide for the Followers.

>>390190196
Meant for >>390189868

>>390189527
Why is their best ending trigger so obscure as "talk to them right as you're about to initiate the Battle of Hoover Dam"?

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>>390182359
FO4 is currently the best looking Fallout game with the best gunplay, but Bethesda with probably learn their lesson and make the next one slightly better. (There is hope after playing Far Harbor.)

FO4 will be remembered as a sub-par Fallout.

Its the Oblivion of the Fallout series.

>>390190341
>pic related
Yeah, and Pokemon Gen 8 is gonna take place in Germany. Don't get your hopes up, man.

>>390190407

Probably because they were one of the factions whose content took a hit from the development crunch time.

>>390190525
Fallout 4 is a prime example of the dangers of unrealistic hype.

>>390190525
Oblivion actually has good quests, Fallout 4 has fucking nothing.

>>390189527
They're also the most consistently irrelevant in the larger scheme of things, failing to make any difference or even making things worse, and enabling NCR's debauched land-grabbing rampage is not going to help.

>>390190640
Dude, they're the Followers. They really don't need that much focus.

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>>390190525
>There is hope after playing Far Harbor
Here's the thing: the reason Far Harbor was better is that it wasn't written by Emil. However, Emil is still their lead writer overall. That means the next game will be written by him, even if the DLCs weren't.

>>390190828
Fallout 4 has... what's her name again? The sexbot?

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>>390191137
Curie

yes, she was meant to be abused

>>390190608

I don't have my hopes up. I expect that Zenimax will whore out the IP to everyone BUT Obsidian.
That doesn't change the fact that I believe New Vegas planted the seeds for the possibility of a hypothetical game set in the Greta Plains.

Besides, that's not actually the setting I'd want most for a new Fallout.

>>390179292
Nothing, it's just the first game underage nu/v/ played in the series.

>>390191850
>Genocide - the most NOBLE of causes!

Played through it twice till the end. Didn't really care for it. Its a solid 6/10

Who is the best waifu in the game and why is it dala

>>390189527
>Siding with the NCR after they massacre people in Freeside
>B-b-but it's worth it because muh followers of the apocalypse!
Topkek

>>390192892
Sunny Smiles.

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>>390191850
>Gamblers, drug users, NCR fags, and raiders
>Innocent people
Topkek

>>390194427
Relative to the Legion yeah, they pretty much are.

>>390191850
>innocents
Someone's spooked

>>390191850
The ending slides being played if Caesar dies unfortunately reveal that Lanius fucks everything up during his reign. Moreover Vulpes and he himself hate eachother so much that it will lead to in-fighting and even more rapid decay.