>Nintendo makes a shitty console with only 32GB storage >somehow

>beign that jewish that dont want to make your game in better cartridges
>sell the game for actually 40$

yeah, nintendo fault

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>>390143764
>Advertise it as the best version of the game
>It isn't the best version of the game
>WTF IT'S NOT UBISOFT'S FAULT

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>>390143764
Like I fucking care about jewbisoft?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idA9BEA4Hxs

>>390143875
>nintendo makes a shitty extremely outdated cheap ass console and sells it at the regular console price
>devs are fucked because the hardware is terrible
>1-2 switch is $60
yeah ubisoft are the jews

>>390143875
>>sell the game for actually 40$

wait a sec, nintendo fagits have to both pay the tax and the have the game in a small cartridge ?

>>390144096
>nintendo makes a shitty extremely outdated cheap ass console and sells it at the regular console price
>run a game that 1000$ PC cant emulate at barely 30fps

also

>re-re-re-release a 4 year old game with nothing new
>make it the worst version, cutting content to make cheap production
>40$

Yeah, nintendo is the worst company ever

>>390143764
They shouldn't have given it a misleading title. That was entirely their choice.
It would be the same game if it was just called "Switch edition" or whatever and then these shitty articles on shitty news websites wouldn't exist.

>didn't even use a 8GB cart
>uses a fucking 4GB cart, the cheapest of all cards
Literal jews

>>390144370
>The Nintendo Switch’shardware specificationsarched some eyebrows when it was revealed that, once again, Nintendo was launching a console with a shrimpy 32 GB of flash memory on board. Now we know what it really means to a user.The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wildrequires 13.4 GB of storage spaceif it is downloaded to the Nintendo Switch. That is a little under half of the internal capacity of Nintendo’s new console.

The Wii U had the same amount of storage and that version was still better. No idea what Ubisoft was thinking.

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>>390143764
>Have to scale it down to 2.3GB apparently
>32GB Switch Carts exist

It's fucking Ubisofts fault.
Again they couldn't really be bothered and just wanted to make a quick buck.
There was no reason to scale down a 10gb game to 2.3GB to fit a Switch cart when 2,4,8,16 and 32GB carts exist.
So go ahead tell me how it's Nintendos fault.

>compress the game so a 9gb game can fit on a 8gb cart (so you can maximize profit from buying the cheapest carts)
>game runs and loads like shit as a result

Fixed for you OP, because this is what actually happened.

>>390143764
The game only requires 6 GB's of space for the PC version so

yeah

Just a lazy port by Ubishit.

>>390144489
Storage in the cartridge, not in the digital version
Nintendo makes diferent cartridges with diferent storage for game production, Ubisoft shrink his game so it can fit in cheaper cartridge so they can make more money

>>390143764
Yeah, it's Ubisoft's fault. Fuck off.

>>390144582
9gb game on a 3gb cart

>>390144603
>nintendo wants to charge them more money
>this is ubisoft's fault

>>390144765
>ubisoft want to sell for 40$
>its nintendo's fault
you are retarded dude

>>390144285
>run a game that 1000$ PC cant emulate at barely 30fps

You are fucking idiot that don't know what emulation is.
I hope this is bait or your place is in a mental hospital.

>>390144096
>nintendo makes a shitty extremely outdated cheap ass console and sells it at the regular console price
considering how powerful it is for a handheld it's probably the least outdated system they've put out in years

>>390144849
cmon, emulate it on you pc

>>390145048
>cartridge isn't as cheap as a fucking disc
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

>>390145048
I love how he never provides any actual numbers.

>>390145048
What's this, damage control for ants?

>>390144924
> He still doesn't understand what it means to emulate.
>He thinks that if the game was released on PC officially it wouldn't run at 120fps with a toaster.

You are a fucking tool.

>>390145170
Same goes for the cartridges are cheaper than blurays in bulk faction.

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>>390143764
But the game is only 5.7gb

>>390145170
Of course you can't provide numbers you incompetent twat. Any game company is going to have the cost of cart or disc manufacturing under NDA.

>>390145048
cost 63% more of what, like 2 dollars max?
jewish fucks making a game intentionally worse so they can save literal cents

>>390145048
>Source
>My fucking ass

Considering a good 64GB MicroSD is like £11.99 on Amazon and all the cartridges are are read only SD cards sorta I have to say this post is fucking BS.

This guy on twitter always defends sonys actions and always downplays any other companies actions. Look it up.

>>390145048
Doesn't the LA Noir game have a couple other features on the switch that the others dont? I thought there was some touch screen stuff added or something.

>>390144463
And?

>>390145313
so how does he know they actually do cost more

>>390145313
>This damage control

Lmao

>>390145323
The shit press might actually lose them more money than just spending on the damn carts would've.

>32gb storage
>have to shrink the game from 7gb to 3gb
???

>>390145372
Don't forget the graphics downgrade (or lack of any upgrade from the original version rather).

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>Ubisoft defiles Rayman with the most unjustifiably worst port of a Rayman game this generation
>Ubisoft redeems the Rabbids with literally the best version of an XCOM game within a Mario RPG

How do you pull this shit Ubisoft? Is your staff filled with legitimately autistic employees?

>>390145308
Yeah I'm thinking they went for a 3GB cart

>>390143764
Okay, so what's the excuse for Tetris on PS4 running like shit? A fucking Tetris.

>>390145372
Touchscreen for things and motion controls.

If you remember the bits in LA Noire where you use the right stick to look at an item or move your hand around you'll be able to do that through motion. Aka move the joycon to select an item and rotate it to look around the item.

>>390145465
oy vey

dont you know how many pennies we saved by using the very smallest capacity card?

silly goyim

>>390144528
there is a reason, to keep costs down.

>>390145465
its just op trying to throw nintendo under the bus when its clearly all on ubi being massive jews

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>>390143764
>taking up for ubisoft just to shit on nintendo
How the fuck is this place nintendogaf again?

>>390143764
>people still say dark souls trilogy is there

>game that takes up at most 6gb of storage space on PC
>decide to compress it down to a 4gb card for no reason except money
>this is somehow the fault of nintendo

How come people weren't mad when a shit ton of third party devs had to restrict their games to 4gb for vita cartridges and all the multiplats on PS4 and PC suffered because of it?

>>390145389
because it's logical, and 8 GB sd is way cheaper than a 32 one

>>390145762
ITS ONLY BAD WHEN NINTENDO DOES IT

>>390145758
Actually it is since nintendo choose to use cartridges instead of discs.

>>390145661
>literally whole thread is defending nintendo's jewish practices

>>390143764
>it's not ubisoft's fault if they can't optimize their shit
Rayman Legends should fit on a a single layer DVD you fucking moron.

>>390145762
Name me these multiplats that suffered as a result of a Vita port.

>>390145762
vita was an actual handheld and people didnt cry about the vita version being worse than the PS3/PS4/PC version

>>390145827
And they can choose to release it digital only if they want to

But nooo they got to be huge jews

>>390145892
Every single multiplat game that is on vita/PS3/PS4 had to be 4gb for vita cartridges. Games like atelier sophie for example.

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>>390145827
>using full size dics for a portable
people cannot be this stupid

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>>390143764
>Definitive/GOTY/HD/ Edition
>isn't actually definitive
post other examples
Also get used to getting inferior versions of Wii U games/multiplats and then no third party support at all, fucking Switchbitches, I know this is the first time you've owned a Nintendo console so it may be out of the ordinary to not be catered to constantly but you'll soon learn true disappointment
salty Wii U owner here

>>390143764
>ITT: Ubishit Defense Squad: THE THREAD

>>390145762
IT
IS
OKAY
WHEN
SONY
DOES
IT

>>390145920
>The Switch isn't a handheld.
Sure, ok.

>1080p and straight 60FPS no drops PS3 version with 512mb RAM and Cell processor better than 2017 version on 2gb RAM
>PS3 bluray faster than switch flash memory and cartridges

Rayman Legends was a fun 3 years ago. To think it runs worse on Switch than the PS3.

>>390145892
The Secret of Mana remake comes to mind.

>>390146037
Bamham
Wind Waker

>>390146021
How does your post have anything to do with mine? It doesn't change the fact that nintendo choose cartridges over discs, it doesn't change the fact that developers are deciding to screw over customers to cheap out. All you are doing is looking for justifications, nintendo is still the reason for it happening.

>>390143764
Considering the Wii U version runs fine on worse hardware, yes, it is Ubisoft's fault.

>>390143764
>don't want to compress your fucking audio files and all that and end up having a game that is 60+ GB
>proceed to complain

>>390146037

But Sonic Mania and Mario Kart 8 deluxe on Switch are objectively the best versions Anon.

>>390146284
Mania on Switch is the only version with framerate issues.

>>390146021
>I-it's a portable guys!
But it's priced too high
>Th-thanks because it's a home console f-faggot
You literally just said its a portable
>it's both depending on what I'm arguing against REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Nintautism at its finest.

>>390146230
didn't know they let people post on 4chan from the retard ward

>>390146185

The PS3 version like all non switch versions was uncompressed.

When you compress game like that you have to at least try to optimize it before release. At this point the 3ds version of Origins might be a more competent port than Legends for Switch.

>>390145506
>Ubisoft defiles Rayman with the most unjustifiably worst port of a Rayman game this generation

That's not 3DS Origins version.

Anyway, the team behind the Mario + Rabbids game was clearly dedicated while as the ones behind the porting of a 4-year-old game didn't exactly think things through. Now, I don't know if it's Nintendo's or Ubisoft's fault, but Ubisoft has ALWAYS been knowing for having already released less-than-stellar ports of a fucking game.

And even though Nintendo's cartridges are clearly expensive compared to what's available in the market, that still shouldn't excuse Ubisoft from fucking using a 4gb fucking cartridge for a game as massive as Rayman Legends, who's game is only massive due to the uncompressed assets needed for the art, level design and uncompressed music, even though the game is essentially, at its best, a fucking platformer.

>>390146230
Tell me how you can fit a full DVD into something that's hardly bigger than a 3ds xl, I would love to know.

>>390146481
Nice ad homine. Well since you're basically admitting you don't have an argument here I'll just move on.

>>390146416
its a portable
its priced high because its very powerful portable
you seriously gonna sit here and tell me the system would have been better if you had a full size disc spinning inside it while in use?

>>390143764
32GB? phones have 128GB for storage nowadays, I don't get it.

>shitch
Retarded Certificate.

>>390146549
>Origins 3DS
>not Rayman 2 3DS with crippling framerate issues if you don't have a hacked N3DS as well as not being able to collect all lums

>>390146316

>Frame rate issues

Proof? I haven't experienced any frame rate issues at all with Sonic Mania on Switch in either portable or dock mode.

I will recognize that home button issue though.

>>390146741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXturRMOzU4

>>390146586
fine
its not a fucking choice to use discs.
you cannot viably use standard discs for a portable without making a fucking shit system, you are making your own custom disc or cartridge either way. production cost will ALWAYS be higher.

>>390145613
>is a reason, to keep costs down.
how much of a corporation cock sucking enslaved sack of shit can you be?

>>390146550
Did you even read my post? I have never said they should use cartridges. I have said they choose not to use them and that developers cheap out because of it. If they decide to use a more expensive way of storage then they should know that developers won't pay for it out of their own pocket. They are not free of consequences for the actions they choose.

It's the same for sony and their properitary vita cards. The whole system flopped because they decided they can put extra costs on the consumer. The switch is doing fine but they are essentially doing the same thing.

>>390145323
This, the marginal cost on a DVD is fucking pennies.

If flash memory is only 60% more expensive than that, then flash memory is way cheaper than I thought.

>>390146416
It is both. That's the definition of hybrid, genius.

>>390146817
>its not a fucking choice to use discs.
It is. There are multiple ways of going around it. Not having any physical games would be one way. The other would be to put a fucking disc drive into the dock and have games installed through the dock. Maybe there are even other mehtods, but it's not my job to find a way around the shit they've made.

>>390146938
>I-it's a home console when people complain about the price!
>I-it's a portable when people complain about the power and storage!
Nintautism

>>390147074
Thank god you don't work with hardware development

>>390146874
The vita got fucked over because of the lack of marketing, poor support and the cost of the PROPRIETARY memory sticks. The cartridges that store the games got little to do with it.

So again, to the retards complaining that it's Nintendo's fault for this. Why would ubisoft compress a game that's >>390145308 size on PC when they can easily fit is into a 8gb cart with little to no issues?

>>390147139
>I-it's a portable when people complain about the price!
>I-it's a home console when people complain about the power and storage!
I can do this too.

>>390146661

I haven't tried that port honestly and it feels like I won't any time soon. Dang, that sounds bad.

>>390147171
>Why would ubisoft compress a game that's >>390145308 size on PC when they can easily fit is into a 8gb cart
Because 4gb is cheaper for them? They are a business. All their decisions are based around maximizing profit.

>>390143764
Why is Nintendo such a small dick company?

>>390146874
You're a retard

>>390147140
The PSP used optical media, it's hilarious that Nintendo are so retarded they didn't want to use cheal dual layer umd sized blu-ray discs.

>>390147426
>The PSP used optical media
and that was one of the biggest flaws with that console. Switch battery life already sucks, do you want to make it even worse?

>>390147426
>PSP UMD
How big are they and how much do they cost?

>>390147426
theres a reason they dropped that shit for the vita

>>390147229
Literally not an argument.

>>390143764

Why not offer the option to install higher resolution textures or whatever that can be downloaded to internal or SD card?

>>390147532
Why would I argue with a shitposter?

>>390146801

>3d bonus stages

Fair enough I concede, I 'll admit I didn't notice the drop in frame rate for those stages.

>>390147470
>1.4gb for a handheld in 2004 was a "flaw"
Technology advances. You can get gamecube sized blu-ray discs that house 25gb nowadays. Not my fault Nintendo provide small batteries.

>>390147684
Flash memory became so cheap so fast that it made actually using UMDs a terrible idea.

>>390147605
>admitting defeat
Nintautism

>>390147684
Prove it, and how much do they cost?
>small battery
Nigger, the battery is almost as big as the whole console.

>>390147260
They are a shitty business
Fuck their UPlay DRM on PC especially
I hope they die in a fire. Ubisoft is the most nu-male developer ever.

>>390147074
>option 1 on how the switch could use discs
>be digital only and dont use discs at all
>option 2
>make the console cost 200 more dollars for the consumer just so some jew can save 50 cent on bigger cartridges

wow

>>390144528
>retarded ass flash cards for games
>not nintendo's fault

>>390147815
>put a fucking disc drive into the doc
>make the console cost 200 more dollars
You fucking what?

>>390145323
Wait do you not know how maths works? Do you know how much of a fucking increment in costs 60% is?

>>390147909
>>retarded ass flash cards for games
What's the alternative?

So what makes this version so bad? I watched a couple reviews, and while not adding much, it doesn't seem to remove anything.

>>390147891
>ad hominem
>non-argument
Good goy

>>390147921
Are you fucking retarded?
Then how the fuck are you going to play the damn games on the go?
And don't tell me internal storage because that shit is small and a lot of people don't even like installing their games if they can help it.

>>390145323
They're not making one copy of the game, anon.

>>390148036
Sorry but you're moving the goalpost right now. I replied to a post that said it would cost $200 to include a disc drive into a dock and I'm not arguing anything else right now.

>>390147771
The switch has a 4310mah battery, that is fucking pathetic in a large and thick, tablet like device. There are slim 5 inch phones that have the same. Also
>being unable to use Google in 2017

>>390147996
I'm not the one defending literal jews, THAT'S YOU.
Ubisoft are the biggest whiny crybabies out there

>>390143764
The game was compressed due to a less expensive cart sized used. The Switch is not at fault here for a less than definitive game. It is Ubisoft for cheaping out on the cart.

>>390146635
phones literally cost more than most peoples imaginary costs for PC's

>>390147909
>retarded ass flash cards
You mean the "way of the future"?
Because SD cards are a way better format than obsolete garbage like Optical Media. Fuck the industry for still keep this dinosaur tech around when they should be pushing flash storage in every goddamn possible front. For fuck sake I fucking hate how slow the technology industry is.

>>390147921
>disc drive
>dock more complex in general with extra connectors to transfer data between dock and console
>massive increase to internal memory since every single game is required to be installed

200 might be a bit much but there would definitely be massive price up

>>390148142
>literally posting "no you!"
I get it, you're just a shitposting meme lord with nothing of actual substance to say

>>390148123
I'm not moving shit you retard
The Switch is a handheld. Adding a disc drive to the dock is just wasted money.

>>390148384
>I'm not moving shit you retard
>proceeds to talk about another issue (aka moving the goalpost)

>>390148340
Just kill yourself

>>390147921
>put disc drive on the dock
>it does nothing because the dock is just a charger and a hdmi cable

you would have to redesign everything to be needlessly complex and the price would show for it

>>390145048
>Game needs to be on an 8GB cart to make the same margin as PS4/Xbox BD disks
>Ubijew still went and used a 4GB cart for extra shekels

So, what's wrong wit it?

@390148464
>no argument whatsoever
>the most overused, meme-tier ad hominem you could imagine
No more (you)'s for you, shitposter-kun

>>390148642
This. Nobody will give any sort of reason

>>390148274
Absolutely fucking not. Flash storage has a shorter lifespan and far likelier rate of failure than optical. One day years from now you will wake up and all your Switch games will be dead. Meanwhile I'll still be enjoying my PS2 discs.

>>390148642
Watch the digital foundry video on it. I think most notably were loading times and the lack of some multiplayer features so people are arguing that it's not the "definitive" edition.

>>390148429
How in the living fuck is it another issue?
What is wrong with your brain?

>>390148642
>>390148948
Watch the video you lazy cunts

>>390149193
Oh that's not too bad. All this talk about cartridge space made me think they cut levels or something

>>390149193
>>390149215
I'm not going to watch a fucking video to see which features were removed, those can easily be listed. Worse loadtimes/framerates isn't a case of scaling down, that's just bad, and didn't seem like what the OP meant.

>>390148726
When your opponent resorts to "@" you know he's triggered and you know you've won

>>390149175
>Flash storage has a shorter lifespan
Sauce? I'm aware that flash memory has limited write cycles, but that shouldn't matter for a ROM.

>>390149175
>Flash storage has a shorter lifespan
Nice meme moron

>>390149212
I don't know why it is so hard for you to understand. That anon claimed that the inclusion of a disc drive in the dock would push the price up another $200. I questioned that statement. Nothing you said has anything to do with those $200. I'm not arguing anything but those $200. Can you see how things unrelated to $200 are a different issue altogether or not? I don't know how I can explain this to you in an even simpler way because even a 5 year old child would understand at this point.

>>390149296
>I'm not going to education myself on the topic at hand!
What a fucking retard

>>390149408
>to education myself
Ironic. But no, I asked here because I assumed it was a simple list of features being cut and I didn't care enough to get a complete answer. An anonymous fucker posting something that's slightly correct would've been enough for me.

>>390149378
>I don't know why it is so hard for you to understand.
Back at ya moron. The switch is a handheld not a console. Wasting money on a disc drive for the dock(not to mention when it would only be to shut up crybabies like Ubisoft) is not worth it.

>>390149557
At this point I'll have to assume you have some sort of disability. Until you prove to me how your post has anything to do with some other guy claiming that a disc drive in the dock would cost $200 I'm no longer replying to you.

>>390143764
Can a /g/bro explain why didn't Nintendo add more storage to their console? I thought terabyte of storage is peanuts nowadays, why not make consoles with more than puny 32gb

>>390149681
>a disc drive in the dock
Not him, just passing by. Why the fuck would you ever do that? I've seen terrible ideas, and then there's that.

>>390149741
Because you can't put an HDD on a portable console.

>>390149741
hard drive in a handheld doesn't sound like a good idea
but I don't follow that much, do handhelds do it?

>>390149741
>I thought terabyte of storage is peanuts nowadays
Terabyte of flash storage isn't peanuts. Hard disks in a handheld is retarded.

>>390143764
The game was comprised

>>390149821
*tablets

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>>390149175
>Flash storage has a shorter lifespan

>>390147909
Posts like these makes it easy to see who started with a PS2

>>390143764
so what's wrong with it? lack of content or somethin?

>>390150142
Not an argument

>>390147470
What? Switch battery life is great considering what's it being used for. Any other device trying to run something equivalent to BotW will be lasting roughly the same amount here.

>>390149817
>>390149821
>>390149850
phones tho

>>390150271
Load times mainly.

>>390145835
More like people are rightfully blaming Ubisoft for releasing a shitty port for a quick buck. You act as though this is the first time Ubisoft has done something like this.

Why?

>>390143764
But this whole game was on the Wii U. Why would it need to be downgraded for the Switch?

>>390150361
What about them? They hover at around 32GB as well, more expensive ones having more.

>>390150361
Pretty sure 32GBs is the standard for phones.

>>390150415
To save an extra penny on costs.

>the Switch is making a killing
>companies shooting themselves in the foot over a few $ for bigger carts
Anyway, it's another port that I'm personally not interested in nor have I seen a huge turn out of people who were asking for it.

>>390150428
>>390150449
is it still? my 4 year old phone has 32GB storage

>>390149175

Fucking moron.

>>390147260
So they'd rather shoot themselves in the foot to shave off a few cents off the dollar and somehow this is Nintendo's fault?

For fuck's sake anon, next you'll be telling me that uPlay is acceptable.

>>390150415
Because they compressed the hell out of it so they can use a smaller card and save a few cents per unit sold. You know, the usual jewery. Jokes on them, though, I'd have bought it if they hadn't done that.

>>390150415
Same reason that Ubisoft aren't using the French actors for South Park despite using them in Stick of Truth: To save $$$$

>>390143764
Yeah, actually, the Wii U version was fine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKk_OgZss1Q

>>390150575
How much did it cost you?

>people still think that flash storages are bad and still think technology evolve at all
Do you faggots also think that optical storage still look like and function like floppy disks, you fucking cavemen? I've seen normies have more knowledge about technology than this fucking shithole.

Just when I thought that /v/ could get not any lower. Truly fucking incredible.

>>390150575
It still is.

>>390150614
>So they'd rather shoot themselves in the foot
Did they?

>>390150575
I think the s7 had a 64gb model but was $100 more. Kinda pointless when you could have got a 64gb micro sd for $25 at the time.

>>390143764
It's a 6gb game. Jewbisoft probably used 4gb carts

>>390150679
I at least am not buying the game anymore. How many copies do they need to sell to compensate for that?

>>390150329
t. PS2baby

>>390150679
Yes, because they released the shittiest version of their own game just to supposedly shave off a few cents off porting the game to an 8gb flash drive.

Considering there are better versions of the game available, there's practically no reason to buy the switch version either.

>>390150746
How many copies would they have to sell to compensate for using more expensive cartridges? Maybe they save more money from using cheaper ones.

>>390150770
Not an argument

>>390150875
They save money, sure, but they are, as a matter of fact, selling less because of it.

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>/v/ hates nintendo so much that they'll side with fucking UBISOFT cheaping out and getting shitty cartridges

>>390150902
Nigger.

>>390150838
Eh, it's still better than the Vita's, if i were to chose either for portability I'd go for the Switch. But still, it's ridiculous how they handled the port

>>390144285
>run a game that 1000$ PC cant emulate at barely 30fps
please be bait

>>390150952
>how dare anyone say something negative about muh ninty

>>390150931
I'm not working for ubisoft. I can't tell you how much they make but if it costs less for them to produce copies of the game then they have to sell less copies to make the same amount of money. I'm pretty sure they'll figure it out on their own, anon.

You know, I think the whole Disc Vs cart debate is all the industries fault.
Because for the last 20 odd years the entire entertainment industry has pretty much hailed Discs as being the best and ultimate choice for shit and has spent that entire 20 years making Discs as good and efficient as possible and completely ignored carts because those were seen as being obsolete tech even though they had not hit their peak potential.
and now discs are starting to reach their limit of how good they can get, and no one wants to go back to carts because that tech was pretty much abandoned due to being 'old' and 'shit' tech
and Sony is one of the biggest causes of this opinion due to them pushing CD's, DVD's and Bluray as hard as they did with the playstation brand

>>390150727
This makes a hilarious amount of sense.

>>390145661
Because there are Nintendo fans present.

>>390143950
thread should have ended here
if the hardware is shit and you don't feel like working with it, don't call your software something like "definitive"

>>390146230
You must be way too young for posting here or you forgot about the PSP.

>>390151018
>>390144285
rayman legends was on pc, you dont need to emulate it?

>Take a 7gb game and condense it to 3gb
>Because reasons

What did Ubisoft mean by this

You could say that Nintendo fans got Ubishafted by the decision lol.

>>390151086
But they can't control the amount of units they're gonna end up selling. That's the thing, the uninformed customer will buy the game anyway, and they make a bit more money from them, but the informed customer won't buy the game, so they're losing a ton more money for every informed customer that doesn't buy the game that what they're making for every copy sold to uninformed customers.

>>390144463
Why would you install it on the system memory when it loads as fast from the game card?

>>390150658
400 bucks

>>390151415
What is your source on them losing money? Do you have some insider information that tells you that they are actually losing money from this? I doubt it.

>>390151493
I assume it means downloaded from the eshop

>>390151549
The source is myself. I'm not buying the game anymore, and the game costs 40 bucks, so they're losing around what, 30? On the other hand, for every copy they sell they must be gaining 1 extra buck at most.

>>390151710
Look, how am I supposed to argue with you about anything when we're making up numbers right now? I already told you that I have no clue how much money ubisoft makes from this and it's up to them. Go complain to ubisoft directly if you want.

>>390151540
Well, there you, the Switch costs 100 bucks less. Meanwhile, you can get a 32GB card for like 10 bucks.

>>390151710
I think there'd be more than 30 times more people that will buy this game than people who won't buy this game because of these issues.

>>390150962
Not an argument

>>390143764
>rayman on ps4 was 9gb
>no loading times at all

I'd rather have no loading times desu.

>>390151563
Why would you buy Nintendo games on the e-shit if they are available on a cartridge, if it will cost you the fucking same, will load at the same speed, won't take space and you will be able to sell them afterwards?

>>390151403
It wouldn't be the first time Rayman Legends got fucked over on a Nintendo console.

>>390151832
Because it's fun to try to figure things out.

>>390151878
Rayman is not that popular, though. The game sold the most on PS4, 1.2 millions. Meanwhile, DF's video is at 52k views. If we used those numbers, and sure I know not all of them would buy or not the game, but still, that'd mean there's only 23 times more uninformed customers than informed ones, so they'd be losing money.

>>390145827
>Discs
>On a portable
I'm starting to think that people should take some form of test before being able to post.

>>390152502
>Rayman is not that popular, though. The game sold the most on PS4, 1.2 millions. Meanwhile, DF's video is at 52k views. If we used those numbers, and sure I know not all of them would buy or not the game, but still, that'd mean there's only 23 times more uninformed customers than informed ones, so they'd be losing money.
No. DF's video views isn't related to the number of people that won't buy this game because of these issues and there's no reason to believe it is. At best I'd see maybe 10% of the viewers falling into that group.

>>390152706
You'd fail instantly since nobody said they should use discs. The guy you are quoting said that they didn't. Which is a fact. And by not doing it they'll have to live with the consequences of not having a disc based system which in this case means ubisoft gimping down their game to cheap out on the production.

>>390152760
They are all informed potential customers though, you should be looking at how many of them will still buy the game.

Anyone else find it hilarious that Switch fans are treated like the rejects of gaming?

I'm so glad Monster Hunter is out, never have to become a Switch degenerate.

>>390152303
I don't know man, i'm just telling you the argument that this people use to shit on the 32 GB internal storage

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>>390152871
Let's be fucking honest here, it doesn't take much for Ubisoft to release a broke ass game during the best of times.

People are only blaming Nintendo because the people ITT have an irrational hatred for Nintendo, so much so, that they'd literally defend one of the worst video game companies imaginable just to spite Nintendo and make them seem like the bad guy in this situation.

And if you don't think that's the case then let me ask you something, if the cause was Nintendo switching (pun unintended) to cartridges instead of discs, then how come Ubisoft was able to produce this fucking monstrosity in spite of porting the game to digital and disc based formats?

>>390152992
>you should be looking at how many of them will still buy the game.
Why? It wouldn't mean shit without also knowing other people won't buy it because of those issues that haven't seen that video, and knowing how many people will still buy it. So basically with that information you know literally nothing.

>>390153264
>Anyone else find it hilarious that Switch fans are treated like the rejects of gaming?
No, that'd be Sonybros.

>>390152992
>They are all informed potential customers though
Nah, plenty of people that will watch that would've had absolutely no intention to buy it, or wouldn't even own a Switch.

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>>390148274
Solid state drives only last 8 years. Flash memory isn't Godzilla in life span. 20 year old music and PS1 discs work on my PS3. Eat shit, Nintendo apologist.

>>390153305
You should not try to defend the retards, people will confuse you with one of them

>>390154073
Flash memory only "lasts" for 5-10 years, discs do as well. That some last longer is the case for both. Biggest reason for flash dying faster is because of write cycles, something that won't happen with gamecards.

>>390152327
Are you referring to the delay on Wii U? At least it's still the best version

>>390154073
Okay, I have cartridges from 1985 that still work as well, and I don't have to deal with load times or scratches to boot.

Checkmate atheists :^)

>>390149681
Is it really that hard to comprehend that gluing a disc drive to the dock itself wouldn't do anything and that you would have to redesign the console?

>>390152871
Yes. But you must concede that, given what Nintendo wanted to do with the Switch, disc-based wasn't an option. Which means that saying "they shoot themselves in the foot for taking cartridges over discs" as if it were a last minute call is wrong. There's no reasonable way to make disc-based Switch. It's a necessity.

Saying "they should have taken discs" means that they would have needed to make a completely different console.

>let's make a console with handheld limitations

t. Nintendo Exec

>>390143764
Ubisoft is he one to blame, guys. We all know that.

How is Vivendi doing anyway? Still scared of that big boy, Ubi? hahahahaha

>>390155693
>But you must concede that
No I don't. They are not free from consequences only because their design didn't allow for other options. Cartridges come with downsides. Nintendo build their system around cartridges which means they have to live with those downsides. You can't just give them a free pass and say that developers themself should pay extra because the system wouldn't allow for discs.

>>390156036
>You can't just give them a free pass and say that developers themself should pay extra because the system wouldn't allow for discs.
I can when Ubishit decides to cut a game in cut a game in half to fit on a 4gb cart while going on about it's the "definitive edition."

Tell me something, why is it that we can get plenty of other third party titles that work on the switch, but when it comes to this game in particular, everyone wants to go on about how cartridges are flawed and how Nintendo is at fault for Ubisoft's incompetence?

Vivendi cannot buy Ubisoft soon enough, I'm sick of 'em.

>>390147965
are you an idiot? something costs $1.

it costs 60%more!!!
it's now$1.60. oh boy. that'll sure hurt the wallet.

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>>390157168
>that'll sure hurt the wallet
It will, if you're selling a lot.

Plus, let's be honest, nintendawgs will lap it up anyway.

>Ubisoft is committing self sabotage again on a Nintendo system
>not only that but again with Rayman
>with the same Rayman game
It's pretty sad knowing that there are people here who also defend ubisoft's anti consumer practices just to shit on Nintendo.

>>390143764
rayman legends is a wii u exclusive

>>390157316
>nintendawgs will lap it up anyway.
You say that but they're hyper critical as fuck.
If you fuck with their games you know that motherfucker is going to flop hard.

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>Want to pick up this game because I've never played a Rayman game
>Rayman Legends is appearently the best one
>Finally a great game I'm interested in on the switch
>Ubisoft fucks it up

Do I buy it or not? If I buy it, it tells Ubisoft that it's okay to fuck up Switch games, we'll buy it anyway. If I don't, Ubisoft will probably be less likely to give us ports and games

the better question is, why are there people that haven't played that game yet?

>>390157451
>If it's third party you know that motherfucker is going to flop hard.

>>390156036
>and say that developers themself should pay extra because the system wouldn't allow for discs.
Of course they should, they're the developer. Along with their publisher that's part of their job. Not to mention they were most likely paid more than enough to cover larger carts already.
Are you really going to defend Ubisoft spitting in the face of the fans that were waiting for a decent portable version just because they want to pinch pennies?

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>>390143764
Let me hug my Wii U version.
Hey, I guess you can start begging to port the Wii U version, since that's the best thing Switch owners can do.

>>390157491
If you don't own any other version I'd say go for it. It may not be the definitive edition, but it's still a fantastic game with a tiny bit of new content

>>390157550
>If it's shit you know that motherfucker is going to flop hard.
Ftfy.
They don't go by first or third party anon.

>>390157762
>They don't go by first or third party anon.
lmao
Whatever you say, toddler.

>>390143764
played the demo
fucking trash

>>390157491
Rayman Legends is on everything. Just get it used on console or pirate it on PC.

If you really want to show Ubisoft you want good games buy rabbids.

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>Buy this game because I fucking loved Legends and want it on a portable
>My face when the Murphy levels

Why didn't they just cut them? The "press A to Murphy if he's in the right position while you try to play the level normally" thing is BAFFLINGLY awful, I'd have rather the cut content than this "work around" blocking progress.

>>390157712
I'll wait until friday or so. Maybe /v/ is blowing it out proportion with how bad the issues are. Framerate and loading times, right?

>>390157860
Are you really going to argue that when CNS, Federation Force, Color Splash and Star Fox were failures?

>>390152502
DF is mostly Sony/Xbox console warriors and PC mustards gloating, I don't think they're the intended audience m8. Just look at the comments on any exclusive and you'll see what I mean.

Hell look at the comments on that Rayman video.

>>390143764
Needing more than 32GB of space for a shitty platformer.

Ubisoft "devs" sure know how to code and optimize

>>390157907
Watch the digital foundry video, the issues are overblown in the sense that there's no good reason for them to be a thing so Ubi needs to be called out on it, but there's nothing game breaking in this port. Yeah, the biggest problem are probably the loading times, also because they were almost non-existent in the original releases

>>390158210
That's not even kind of the situation anon.

Read the thread, get informed, or something.

>>390157870
I mean, it is, but I'd rather get it new, and on a console I actually play often. But I guess I'll look into that option as well, see what the differences are

>>390157168
No, but you clearly are, you think they only buy ONE "thing"? now buy thousands or millions of those things at 1.6 instead of 1 usd. Like how can you be that retarded?

>>390157959
No, I'm not going to argue with you, toddler.

>>390158264
Reminder, this kind of bullshit is directly caused by promoting Sony and Microsoft while letting Sega die.
With no quality assurance measures third parties have gotten far too big headed and demanding.

>>390158890
Didn't mean to reply there.

>>390144920
>considering how powerful it is for a handheld
any phone in the last 3years is more powerful. #SAD

>>390158793
Of course you aren't.
Well it's more that you can't.

>>390159072
No phone made in the current year is as powerful anon

>>390157878
>The "press A to Murphy if he's in the right position while you try to play the level normally" thing is BAFFLINGLY awful
That's how all versions that weren't on Wii U and vita played.

>>390159090
Sure, toddler.

>>390159292
Then try and argue it.

>>390158210
Is this autism?

>>390159364
Nah, I'm good.

>>390159938
The only autism here is coming from the anon defending Ubisoft

>>390145892
Dragon Quest Builders?
World of Final Fantasy?
God Eater 2?

>>390159167
Available CPU Speeds Available GPU Speeds Available Memory Controller Speeds
Undocked 1020MHz 307.2MHz 1331/1600MHz
Docked 1020MHz 307.2/768MHz 1331/1600MHz

6.2-inch IPS LCD panel with a 720p resolution

source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-nintendo-switch-spec-analysis
----

Iphone 7 specs:

1334×750 px resolution (326 ppi)
2.34 GHz quad-core CPU
650MHz(OR 1 GHz, depending on which custom GPU they went with) even the lowest of the options apple had is still two whole times better than the switch

source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_7
---

Conclusion:

The switch is an extremely underpowered device for gaming in this day and age. The iphone 7 is more than twice as powerful, is significantly smaller, can do way more things, HAS MORE GAMES, and can actually last you more than the switch for gaming and other media.
If you had a choice between the switch and an iphone, you'll be a complete utter moron to chose the switch.

I've now debunked your bullshit, there are far better, stronger, and smaller devices that out perform the switch.

>>390160440
Please delete this

>>390160523
No.

>>390160440
IPhone costs triple the amount senpai

>>390143764
So what are the differences?

>>390143764
>>somehow it's Ubisoft's fault that they have to scale the game down

The game was also on Wii and Xbox360. So blame ubisoft for being lazy, of course.

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>>390160538
MODS HELP ME

>>390160585
not the argument.
initial argument >>390159167

>>390143764
They could have at least made it the same file size as the Wii U version. Wii U was 32gb as well and people coped with downloading stuff on there.

>>390160440
>iPhone's better because it has a lower clocked GPU
???

>>390158479
Sell them for 0.6 dollars more than you would normally would. Wow what happened? Also, they wouldn't be losing money on this, they would be earning less, and that is a different issue.

>>390160440
iPhone 7 Plus throttles to like 50% clock speed on the GPU and CPU.

>>390160925
>"Heh, I will point out this one small thing :^)"
Also
>what is architecture?

>>390160925
>"Heh, I will point out this one small thing :^)"
Also
>what is architecture?

>>390160440
The redpill

>>390160440
>throttle when realised even 50% of that because no vent or anything else
>vs
>a handheld console that actually can keeep up this spec

go play a real game on iphone on 720p and then look how fast this shit melts in your hand.

>>390143764
Bump

>>390145190
>He thinks that if the game was released on PC officially it wouldn't run at 120fps with a toaster.
Sure mate, keep dreaming.

>>390161729
Not an argument
>mate
Cunt

>>390161158
>>390161203
It's like that only thing that he posted about the GPU, which is important for games. I thought those specs were to make me believe the iPhone was better (for games). Yes architecture matters, but that's not defined there.

>>390160440
>theoretical specs
Kek.
An iPhone like that would burn a hole in your hand which is why it can't even access like 75% of it.
Phones are basically like the myth about the brain but real.

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How is Rayman of all things taking up that much space to begin with?

>>390145324
>Considering a good 64GB MicroSD is like £11.99 on Amazon
Nintendo is notorious for jewing devs on proprietary media.

>>390162782
I bet they took the code of the Wii U version and simply lazily copy pasted some assets and adding more uncompressed ones.
Basically, a rushed port to cash in.

>>390162829
>Nintendo is notorious for jewing devs on proprietary media.
I think you've got that backwards son.

>>390162782
It's not that Rayman takes a lot of space but that they literally opted to go with the cheapest cart option.

>>390160440
Name a single worthwhile mobile game if it's so great

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does rayman legends still require uPlay on steam or did they patch it out?
I'm pirating it if they haven't

>>390160440
>http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-nintendo-switch-spec-analysis
>2016
>venture beat
do we have the real specs?

>>390146549
>even though the game is essentially, at its best, a fucking platformer.
what is that supposed to mean, boy
platformers are THE video games. there's nothing more "video game" than platformers. platformers are the master race of genres. you fucking pleb

this thread is dumb. ubisoft cheaped out to save some money and the obvious thing happened, the game runs like shit. big surprise.

>>390163980
lets-a-go

>>390144096
>300
>regular console price

>>390143764
>Definitive Edition not so Definitive

I guess you can say Rayman...doesn't have a leg to stand on.

>>390143764
the switch's only real flaw is that Nintendo didn't include a 32GB SD memory card

and also the lack of a headphone port anywhere

monumentally stupid oversights there

>>390164862
It includes 32GB of internal memory. And it has a headphone port.

>>390164651
This is neo-/v/.
They "forget" that PS4 and Xbone were 400 and 500 respectively at launch.

>>390164862
>and also the lack of a headphone port anywhere
Oh you mean like the one between the fan and card slot?

>>390164862
it has a headphone jack (that does support mics, if that's what you meant, it's the software that lacks mic support) and a 32gb microsd is like 10 bucks and if you're that worried about space you'd probably want to get a larger one anyway

>>390165014
What?

>>390164862
Did you just confuse the Switch with an iPhone?

>>390143764
>Expecting discussion about 100gb games that cant fit into gamecards
>Its fucking rayman

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>own a copy of Rayman Legends on Wii U
>disc gets ruined because of, reasons.
>never buy another copy because I'm kinda a poorfag (technically I could pirate it, but whatever)
>Rayman Legends: Definitive gets announced for Switch
>decide to wait for that instead, since "definitive" implies more content
>turns out to be a shit port

>>390145323
For simple math let's say a disc costs 1c per disk. This means a cart would cost 1.6c. Now let's say you ship 1M units. That's an extra 6,000$ they save.

>>390165220
You can read can't you?

This shit happened a lot on the 3DS too, I don't get why you would cheap out so hard over a couple thousand bucks total out of hundreds of thousands of $40-$60 copies sold that it actually damages the game.

>>390165385
>$6000
Wow, it's fucking nothing.
These are multi million companies with their fingers in every pie. They could and have literally pissed away 6000 not to mention had they actually paid that they would have made it back and then some.

>Ubisoft makes a shitty game
>Somehow this is Nintendo's fault

>>390166261
Sonykids will take every opportunity to shit on Nintendo regardless of if they were at fault or not.
There's a reason why Neo-/v/ became a term.

>>390151128
WAT? Do you not comprehend why we switched to disc? Catridges had a lot of benefits but if your not glad for the conversion you have no comprehension of the industry, consumer vs distributor vs producer.

>>390167528
You know the only reason for the switch to disc was because devs wanted to cram in FMV cutscenes right? Hell that's the reason why the PS1 used multiple discs for games like Final Fantasy, the games themselves weren't particularly large.

Basically it was the beginning of the end for games being made for entertainment rather than plain profit.

>>390152054
Not an argument.

>>390153410
>implying that devs have screwed over ps and xbone more than they have the switch the past few months

>>390169901
They have, just not in the way you think.

>>390169901
Sonybros are always finding reasons to shit on Nintendo, even when they had nothing to do with whatever the fuck's going on with their libraries.

I mean, look at this thread. People are actually defending Ubisoft for trying to make a quick cash in and blaming the fact that the switch uses cartridges.

Shit's insane yo.

>>390143764
Do you really expecting someone blaming nintendo for something?

>>390169901
>Sony and Microsoft are barely supporting their systems to the point that the fanbases have to rely almost exclusively on third party games
>third parties continuously fucking consumers over from fuck tons of DLC and broken games to games so bloated that 500GB is barely enough for 6 games
>third party games are getting progressively worse with each subsequent game all while treating consumers like retards
He's right anon.

>>390170671
Proper English anon

>>390152303
The same reason online distribution is used everywhere else. Normies don't buy physical anymore, they can't be arsed to leave the couch when they can just purchase everything online. Also consider that Switch is supposed to be a portable console first and foremost, it's fucking common sense to buy shit online on a portable device. Who the fuck would want to drag a huge stack of carts aroundwith them like it's the 80s?

>>390145048
>$10 difference
>only possible if a single copy of a game on PS4 costs $16.67
>Switch version must therefore cost $26.67 per copy
>manufacturing is about $3 for a PS4 game
>Sony's console owner fee is 11.5% or about $7 on a $60 game
Something tells me this is bullshit unless Nintendo is charging more than double the fee per copy sold.

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>>390171145
>Game is 150gb but have like 100 gorillions of different languages and use shitty uncompressed audio because consoles.
>Repack is like 10-20gb at best.

>>390171801
>Who the fuck would want to drag a huge stack of carts aroundwith them like it's the 80s?
Are you too poor to afford a carry-on case? It's not even like the carts are even that large.

>>390171801
You're confusing neckbeards and Normies as well as buying games online with buying games digitally.
Normies get their games delivered physically which is why digital sales still fail to exceed physical.

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>>390171801
>huge stack of carts

Switch carts are about same size as 3ds ones, you can fit like 10 of them in some cheap case.

>>390172457
I think switch carts are a bit smaller actually.

>>390172746
The point is that they aren't that big.

Retards still think that carts are at same size as snes or n64 ones.

>>390164717
get out

>>390165385
well, if a 100 people get turned off because of hyper jew antics which is probably an understatement, then they just lost 6000 dollars. Now I do understand that not all of the 60 dollars is actually going to them, but you wanted to do simple math, so I figured I'd join in.

>>390143764
I really don't understand the multiplat obsession with the Switch. Nintendo consoles (at least from the N64 onwards) have always been about the exclusives. You don't fucking buy a Nintendo console to play random Ubisoft crap, or Deus Ex, or EA Sports.

>>390145758
Thats good nintenbros can suck it

>>390150838
Good just gives a better reason not to get the system

>>390175241
>Buying consoles
>For ports
Kk Sonybro, I see you.

>>390171801
I dont think the system has enough games to even have a stack

>>390175674
Im a pc user dipshit

>>390175896
Even funnier!

>>390175674
>buying PC
>for ports
lel
how does it feel to be abandoned by devs and having to rely on 'community patches' and downgrades to be able to even start something?

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>>390160585
dunno why he went with the 7, the 6s is more powerful as well and you can get those for 270 bucks. it even has a built in microphone! anyways, the best actual current arguement for the switch is "its a physical drm machine and you cant play its game on other devices technically!"

The game is 9gb uncompressed on PS4, its 6gb on Wii U and 2gb on Switch

>>390143764
>32GB storage
Ah, i remember when my PC had a 32GB HD.
What year was that.. 2002?

I really don't understand.Is blind fandom this powerful?

>>390176431
It feels good knowing that we always win eventually while you're forced to run on the never-ending treadmill of mediocrity that is the modern video game industry.

We have a backlog that can be measured in giga bytes and unlike you, our games aren't on a half-life.

>>390151710
>and the game costs 40 bucks, so they're losing around what, 30?
Confirmed for not knowing shit about how much profits are made on games.

If you spend $40, Ubisoft is going to get $20~ off that as a Publisher+Developer.

The rest is split between Nintendo, the retailer, logistics/production costs etc. So yeah that's why even $0.20 do make a difference. You're already talking about 1% there. The $20 Ubisoft make isn't net profit, you have to remove cost of Marketing, PR etc. All the Publishing effort that's needed.

Those companies don't make 20% net profit or something, it's more like couple percent once you deduct all cost (including labour costs). So yes even $0.20 is a massive difference.

>>390143950
This

>>390176831
Physical games don't take up storage

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>>390144528
Margins on using an 8GB cart are about in line with printing a PS4 disk. 4GB cart (ones used here) are a little better margins than printing a PS4 disk.
Going for broke and using a 32GB cart is 60% more expensive after production and licensing fees than printing a 50GB dual layer bluray for PS4.

This is an issue that will keep popping up as the Switch goes on and will cause more and more games to either cut down size like this or go digital only.