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>Fucking fire emblem 2 got a 3DS remake and it's great

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>Fucking fire emblem 2 got a 3DS remake and it's great
>Now Metroid 2 gets a remake and apparently it's great

Bizarro world activated
So who can we expect to work on the Zelda 2 3DS remake?
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>>390059845
>wanting a zelda 2 remake
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>>390059845
Majority of people hated that game, so no.

If it did get a remake, then it would turned into a metroidvania style game
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>>390059845
FROM
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>>390060443
>Majority of people hated that game
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People hate Zelda 2 for a good reason
>You just can't handle things that are different!!
I can't handle things that suck ass
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>>390059845
All three games were already good, the remakes just make them better.
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>>390059845
Zelda 2 remake by Vanillaware when?
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>>390059845
Oracle games remake when?
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What other black sheep sequels are there to remake anyway

Devil May Cry 2?
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>>390060443
>>390060641
>Upon its release in North America, Zelda II became one of the most popular NES games of 1988, with many retailers reporting that the game was selling out that year.[36] The game ultimately sold 4.38 million copies worldwide, making it the fifth best selling NES game, behind the Super Mario Bros. series and the first Legend of Zelda game.
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ITT: The "artificial difficulty" generation doesn't appreciate a good game.
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was it a good game?
Legit question, I'm running out of zeldas to play.
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>>390060443
>it would turned into a metroidvania style game

That sounds pretty good. Just remove the overworld thing and random battles
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>>390061612
No it wasn't
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>>390061204
Mario bros 2
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>>390061612
It's obtuse at some points, but otherwise good. Give it a shot.
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>>390060443
>>390060641
Fuck off, it's just hated by idiots.
The biggest complain it gets is "not traditional Zelda" even though it's the fucking second game

>>390060828
Holy shit, yes.

>>390061612
Yes
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>>390061206
This. When I got it as a kid I was hype as fuck and played the shit out of it. It was one of the best NES games.

People who hate on it are the brats who weren't born yet when it came out.
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>First game is a landmark title that either creates a genre or redefines it
>Second title is either a completely wacky deviation in style or just shit
>Third game doubles down on what made the original good and is seen as one of the greatest games of all time

Question: what franchise am I talking about? Here's your answer
>Final Fantasy
>Zelda
>Metroid
>Fire Emblem
>Castlevania
>Devil May Cry
What else? You know there's more.
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I love the sound track man.

Honestly, we keep getting ports of later Zeldas but this could really use a remake
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>>390061612
It's a very good side-scroller for the NES.

The main problem is that some parts of the quest are very random (you have to visit some very specific tiles of the map, if I recall) due to a lack of hints, or unfair (that fucking dead end in the final dungeon...).

Most people shit on it because hivemind and some quote of Miyamoto pulled out of context.
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>>390061617
The overworld was great though.
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>>390061612
By NES standards and for its time? It's decent
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>>390061612
It's worth at least one play-through. The game does feel a bit dated in that you might have to wander to find some things, but I wouldn't use a guide right away.
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>>390064035
Need for Speed
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>>390064035
Star Fox
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>>390059845
I've been wanting a Zelda II remake since the Gamecube days. I swear, hating Zelda II is the biggest sign of someone jumping on the bandwagon.

People act like it's Simon's Quest or some shit.
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>>390060443

To be fair, Fire Emblem 2 wasn't necessarily popular either, and yet it got a remake.

It's like Nintendo is giving these games a second chance, and it's great.
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>>390061612
Yes. Unlike the first Zelda, it's actually a good game.
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>>390065783
??? star Fox 2 la really similar to the first one
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>>390065843
This
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>>390065843
its not that bad but its not that good either
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>>390059845
Zelda 2 has interesting ideas

I have no idea who'd work on this though. Yacht Club Games might be good at it, since they're good at 2d action gameplay and Zelda 2 is at its most fundamental level a 2d action game, but they also seem pretty busy.
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>>390064035
>Metroid 2
>Castlevania
>Devil May Cry
All of these are wrong though, especially Metroid 2. When it came out the only complaint was that the screen was too small and the final boss was too hard from people who didn't understand how to slide down the neck.
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>>390061571
This.
The people who claim "You can't beat this game without le nintendo power" are fucking brainlets.
If you actually talk to villagers, they give you enough hints to figure out everything you need to beat the game all on your own.
Literally the only part of the game that's bullshit level of difficulty is the final boss fight witch can just be cheesed with the hide in the corner trick.
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>>390064035
Supa mario bruddas TWOOOO
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>>390066103
Vanillaware was suggested and they'd be perfect.
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>>390059845
Echoes wasn't great tho. It was ok.
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>>390064035
Mario
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Everyone posting in this thread saying anything more glowing than "it was an okay game at best" or getting hyper-kneejerk-ass-blasted about people saying it was a fucking dumpster fire are either trolls or rose-glasses faggots.

It's an objectively bad game using a good IP that has several design sins behind it. The problem is not that it was "different", it's that it was a fucking poorly designed piece of shit. Why does it have a lives system? That alone makes playing the game a chore, since if you run out of lives, you then have to trek through a dozen fucking perilous caverns to get back to the dungeon you Game Over'd in, risking some of the lives you need to beat the dungeon in the first place.

And the few "shortcuts" they availed you were so sparse that oftentimes you still had to make your way through half the game world just to get back to getting your ass kicked with one or two lives left.

inb4 "git gud" faggots. There's an acceptable level of frustrating game design, and then there's a fucking player-hostile product. I could level so many more complaints against Zelda 2, and I still own the game, but that by no means makes it a "good" game.
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>>390060443
Thats the whole point of a remake.

Fix the wrong parts.
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>>390065957
(You)
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>>390059845
I'd like for it to get one. I don't like the original at all but I think it could be fun if they remade it.
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>>390065957
Holy shit, someone else who liked 2 better than the original.
I thought I was the only one.
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>>390066819
>and then there's a fucking player-hostile product.
>Wastelands make hostile environments

Whoda thunk it.

Practice more and get adequately skilled :^)
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>>390066308
Metroid II was far more linear and "rail roaded" compared to the original game or Super Metroid.
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>>390066982
Thanks for taking my bait, friendo.

:^)
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>>390059845
Legend of Princess
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>>390067025
That doesn't make it bad though and it was the second entry. Non-linearity wasn't set in stone at that point.
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>>390067014
0/10
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>>390060443
It was a metroidvania style game you fucking retard.
It was one of the pioneers of that type of game. And it was never hated on release I'm not sure why everyone says this lie over and over.
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>>390067134

think you mean -1/10 for blatantly ignoring an inb4
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>>390059845
Zelda 2 has a lot of great things about it, but the sword fucking sucks. The sword is so short that it just makes you feels crippled for the entire game, and not in a fun way.
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>>390067176
How would you even measure this? Every fucking faggot in here saying it was "widely acclaimed at release" is full of shit. There was nothing but word of mouth and paid critics or reviewers in game magazines because, surprise, there was no widely available public forum via internet to discuss these things.

You say other people are pulling facts out of their ass, meanwhile you dumbshits keep claiming that "EVERYONE LOVED IT." Who? You and your 5 friends on the playground?
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>>390067037
Oh, my bad, I thought I wasn't alone. My bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHTVuP5P4ok
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>>390061612
May be confusing without a guide, but yes. It's one of my favorites in the series.
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>>390059845
Don't bother with Zelda 2. Play Castlevania instead
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>>390067037
Fuck off, you impersonator. It wasn't bait and Zelda II is way better than the original.
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I think zelda 2 is a legitimate contender for their next remake. There is a trend here. They're releasing these games with reversible covers on a very consistent schedule so far with reveals six months apart and release four months after. This can't be purely coincidence. Come december we'll find out what they have planned next I'm sure. Zelda 2 is near the top of my expectations.
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Just to clarify, there's nothing wrong with liking the game even though it's a piece of shit. People can like whatever they want. But white-knighting its obvious flaws to the point of attacking the people pointing out it had flaws makes you a faggot and I'm going to continue to shit on the dumpster fire that is Zelda 2.

If you love it, embrace it, and just say it "I like it even though it's a heavily flawed game." That gets you a gold star as far as I'm concerned. Also I hope Ubisoft does the remake since that has the highest potential for jimmies-rustling.
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>>390067738
If nothing else a spiritual successor would be nice.
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>>390067731
>>390067353
>>390067037
>>390066982
>>390065957

samefag
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>>390067353
I prefer Zelda II to Zelda I, anon.
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>>390066819
git gud

But seriously you sound like a blathering bitch of a man. The lives system isn't that big of a deal since you can continue at a dungeon assuming you get a game over.
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>>390067894
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>>390067862
Like a link between worlds that would be great too. That game even began development as a straight up remake. But with this trend whatever they show off will certainly be a remake of something.
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>>390067943
Same
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>>390068015
What's that supposed to prove?
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>>390061706
>>390066395
>Super Mario Advance
>Which came with a remake of Mario Bros. that was ported to almost every other GBA Mario game

Though to be fair, it's been 16 years
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>>390067943
Yeah. They're both good tho
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>>390067894
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>>390068309
Okay I'm genuinely curious what's up with the #

But he is right, anyone can edit an image to insert (You)s
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>>390066468
>post yfw the whore is replaced by a busty chef
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>>390068572
Phoneposting.
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>>390068453
That was basically a port of the super mario all stars version
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>>390068572
It's a link to the post. If you press it it doesn't get inlined and just takes you to the post instead.
Also I didn't edit the image, that's lame.
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>>390068652
Fuck off retard.
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>>390059845

I'd play a Zelda 2 remake if it was good, hell 3DS already has loads of good Zelda, why not more
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The contention that's gripped this thread is real.
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>>390068598
>Every female npc has boob physics in place
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>>390060443
I would genuinely love that. Something in the vein of Rygar, maybe.
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>>390060078
the game is actually pretty good but brutally hard and super rough around the edges, i'd wager it needs a remake more than most other contenders.
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>>390067351
Yeah well who hated it? You and your 5 friends?
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>>390069269
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>>390069582
Would gladly let them restore my life.
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>Wanting Nintendo to ruin yet another game with a remake
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>>390069579
Everyone who keeps saying they hate it in these threads is evidence, not of EVERYONE HATING IT, but the vast majority of people who post all over the internet saying they hate it... news flash... probably hate it. Meanwhile, there's a minority of people who love the game, but those same people also insecurely say "EVERYONE LOVED IT"

Hell the evidence is in this thread. Why do you have to try so hard to defend it? People hated it. It's okay. YOU'RE ALLOWED TO LIKE IT. But don't make up imaginary statistics because you're insecure about liking it. Not everyone who says they hate it is trying to rustle your jimmies, I promise.
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>>390070384
>Everyone who keeps saying they hate it in these threads is evidence
Evidence of people hating it now. But that's not what we were talking about.
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>>390070384
Vocal retards does not a majority make.
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>>390071197
And my point is that your credibility is immediately nullified by ad hominem.
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>>390060078
Oh please, you just suck at video games. I beat this fucker when I was 10. Back in '87.
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>>390067351
Mainly because game reviewers back then actually played games and where good at them the only obvious shill was NP and even then they was mostly fair in their criticism.

If you was around in when it came put and played it upon release we all was playing it and not many people complained about it because forbthe time it was a great game and even now it's still not bad and helped establish what would later be tweaked into the "metriodvania" style of games
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>>390061612
It's a good play, but do NOT expect any hand holding. The game will NOT give you a whole lot of hints. The best thing to do is explore everywhere, and when you get to Death Mountain think LOGICALLY about what direction you want to go in. Also, do not save and quit if you are near leveling-up: you'll lose those experience points. Keep going until you level up, THEN quit.

Zelda II is one of the few games I would recommend a map for on first time play if you weren't raised on the NES or earlier.
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>>390071947
What's it like being an old man on /v/?
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>>390072660
I can only imagine what it's like being 40+ year old and seeing all these 18 year old faggots talk shit about Zelda II just because every other Nintendo fanboy says so even though barely anyone played it, let alone finished it.
It's one of my favorite Zelda games, unlike the others it's actually challenging.
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>>390071947
>game plays nothing like a zelda game and is basically a pile of shit
>y you just suck!
sorry I don't force myself to play all the way through shit games
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>>390072660
Boring. Everything you little faggots think is cool was done to death generations before even my own. I sit here and laugh at your idiocies while getting paid to do so.
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>>390073045
What did he mean by this
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>>390073045
Go away then you old fart
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>>390073027
>>game plays nothing like a zelda game

This is really the crux of the situation. LttP and OoT solidified the Zelda formula. People go back to play Zelda II, get mad that it "doesn't play like Zelda".
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>>390074084
And yet people shit on Federation Force for "not playing like Metroid".
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>>390073045
>Boring. Everything you little faggots think is cool was done to death generations before even my own.

Not really. Even in 1987, which was late in your childhood, there were still a lot of young genres and a lot of uncharted territory in the videogame world.
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>>390074014
Sorry, I don't slack off on the job, or just quit for no reason, like you do.
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>>390074301
>Everthing
>Thinking "Everything" pertains exclusively to video games
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>>390074252
People flipped over Prime as well. Its not a new phenomenon.
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>it's great
It's shit, or a mediocre effort at best. Samus Returns seems largely glossed over by fans of the retro series, mostly because of the sheer amount of dumb liberties it takes without actually improving upon the original game in any way. Metacritic scores don't mean shit. Paid reviews are a reality whether or not you want to admit it.

>Zelda 2 3DS remake?
I'm guessing this is some newfag's idea of irony. Zelda II was never unpopular or the "black sheep" of the series, despite what some underage e-celeb tells you.

You don't know shit about classic games. At least you had the consideration to post this retardation on /v/ instead of /vr/.
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I don't want a remake of Zelda II
I want a remake of Ages and Seasons in the ALBW engine.
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>>390060078
Gas yourself for good and all, Pepe. You lead a hollow existence and are a drain on society.
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>>390075162
Why not both?
But yeah if I have to choose I would prefer a remake of the oracles games.
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Zelda 2 is a pet favorite of a lot of internal staff at Nintendo, or at least was. Starting a remake of it was their go-to for testing out their new hardware. Out there, somewhere, there's a Super FX-based SNES remake of Zelda 2, however incomplete, floating around.
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>>390075985
Will it ever leak like that SNES Rayman prototype?
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>>390075162

I want everything you don't want. Ages/Seasons are perfect and only need rereleases, not remakes. Zelda II, however, is a style of Zelda that I sincerely believe deserves another chance. There's a great game in there marred by obnoxious enemy patterns and needlessly obscure logic in places.
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>>390075737
So are you for thinking that more aggression is the answer to combating alt-right anarchists. Be a good samaritan worth speaking to or stop getting in the way of those who can make a difference. You meme-spouting idiot.

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1504676721355.webm
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>>390076327
I would be more than OK with a 3D classics version with no password management, but Nintendo doesn't make them anymore.
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>>390075162
Ages and Seasons don't really need remakes, I'd only wanna see them if a third is made as well.
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>>390059845
Probably MercurySteam again since apparently they didn't screw the pooch on Metroid. I'd expect to see them handle the next Nintendo handheld Castlevania as well. We'll probably get some 2.5D instead of nice pixel art but I'd really like to see a LoZ2 that's not so rough around the edges.
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>>390076568
>>390076327
>>390075162
Isn't there some weird 3rd quest you can unlock if you have both oracles games?
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>>390059845
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>>390077230
If memory serves, you get a code or something after beating one of them, which you then input in the second one after you beat it, which in turn unlocks the real final boss, Ganon.
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>>390080183
actually, you have to put in the code when you start the other game. i made this mistake on my 3ds and had to replay it from the beginning
i never did finish 100%ing those games. ill go back....eventually
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Just wait for the PC Zelda II remake.
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>>390059845
Stop wanting remakes and killing video games. Stop being a causal web 2.0 baby. Stop being shit.
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>>390080776
>Balls hanging out
Slap some tits on that and /v/ will be all over it.
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>>390080776
Faxanadu plays kinda similar, too.
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>Navi is annoying
>water temple is hard
>Zelda II is bad

Any other normie Zelda memes?
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>>390081120
Stop spamming buzzwords in place of cogent sentences.
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>>390081120
STOP SENDING ME HENTAI! STOP SENDING ME TRAPS!
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>>390081383
The Battle of Olympus, too.
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>>390069412
I think it's fun enough in its current form.
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>>390081723

>I didn't like the three day mechanic in Majora's Mask. It's too haaard. I just wanna relax when I play Zelda ;_;
>Song of Storms
>HIS NAME IS LINK, NOT ZELDA! ZELDA IS THE PRINCESS RRRRAAAGGHAHGA
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>RPG battles that aren't random encounters
>Combines sides-scrolling gameplay with top-down world map exploration complete with towns
>EXP system
>Spells that are actually useful
>Downthrust makes 2D combat excellent
>two different world maps
The shit they managed to pull off for a game in 1988 is really fucking impressive.
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>>390076327
>obnoxious enemy patterns
Disagree. The combat in Zelda II is the best in that style of game. It's snappy and precise. Faxanadu and other similar games are shit in that department.
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>>390082652
the other normie mm opinion is usually
>majora's mask is really underrated, it's so dark and full of atmosphere
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>>390066819
>Why does it have a lives system?
For you to git gud
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>>390081723
>unlike most people i actually love wind waker's art style
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>>390060078
fuck you, nigger.
AOL is way better than overrated shit like TP.

t. massive zelda faggot.
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>>390083962
I always got the impression normies want a REALISTIC Zelda or like a coworker of mine once said
>it should be mire like skyrim
But yeah, the zelda cycle is real thanks to the eternal hipster
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>137 replies and no one has said it yet
It's cause it's the Dark Souls of Zelda games.
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>>390081383
>NES game with different background layers popping out
That's some amazing sprite and color work there. I really should try Faxanadu some of these days.
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>>390061206
Yes, what a surprise that Zelda 2 would sell well when Zelda 1 was phenomenal. Why didn't people just warn eachother on /v/?
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>>390085440
>word of mouth wasn't a thing in '88
It also topped the user-rated NP best game chart for years until SMB3 and then ALttP came out. Clearly not something that happens to bad games.
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>>390059845

It would be shit because they'd just hammer shitty 3d models on it like everything else Nintendo has made the last decade. Make it have beautiful sprite art and I might care.

TAOL is my favorite game in the series but I don't want your shitty half-assed, "remake" with low-budget lifeless polygons like Metroid 2.
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