>2017 >8th (eight) generation >Removable batteries are

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>>389994782
problem was solved a long time ago anon

>>389994782
>PS4 controller batter lasts 5.5 hours
>as long as the switch console

I'd rather a controller use AA batteries than some proprietary piece of shit battery that can't be easily removed or replaced.

>what is a rechargable battery

Meanwhile, Switch pro controller lasts 40 hours, and wii u pro controller lasts 80 hours. I never have to charge my pro controller.

>>389994782
rechargeable batteries are a thing, retard

>>389994782
Microsoft does this to force you to buy a plug and play set from them. Shit adds another $20 to your controller. Best way to nickel and dime their fans.

>>389994782
you know they sell you the controller with a detachable battery for it don't you?
they actually sell you a controller with it...
they actually give you the option of not charging/recharging your battery if you (for some reason) need to be always plugged

>>389994842
>>389994969
>>389994981
>>389995059
that makes it significantly more expensive than the competition

also extra hassle

>>389994842

Are these actually good?
I hate still having to use batteries but I use my GBA a lot since I put an LCD screen in it.

>>389995150
yeah but dualshock 4 lasts for 4 hours while bone controllers will last for days straight

>>389994842
>you have to buy extra shit to use your controler

>>389995210
thats due to the retarded light. dualshock 3, nintendo controllers lasts for days too on internal batteries

>>389995150
>that makes it significantly more expensive than the competition
Rechargeable batteries aren't expensive anymore.

>also extra hassle
Hardly, if a controller is ever close to dying you just quickly swap out the batteries with fresh rechargeables and then start charging the ones you just took out.

only argument i have for this is if your battery goes out in the ps4 controller, you technically need a new controller.

>>389995320
still its an extra expense

might aswell get xbox live because its "not that expensive"

>>389994782
Xbox One controllers last at least 6x as long as dualshock in terms of battery life.
Sony changed something for the sake of changing something, its a determent to the controller.

>>389995450
that's a pretty good argument

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>>389994782
>Take batteries out of back
>Plug in micro-usb
>No longer need batteries

>>389995543
>cant sit far away
>cant lie on bed

>>389995320
>Rechargeable batteries aren't expensive anymore.

I was literally just cleaning out an old drawer a couple hours ago. I found some old Radio Shack rechargeable AA's which I think cost $10 each, and I had 8 of them. I laughed when I saw them and dropped them straight in the trash.

Factoring in inflation I could probably get 100+ Eneloops for what those old shitty rechargeables cost

>>389995089
I use the xbone controller for my pc with a cord, isn't it just a micro usb to usb cable? That shot costs like 2bucks.

>>389995089
and people defend it as seen in this thread

>>389995472
Oh no, I had to spend $4 on excellent reusable multipurpose batteries

>>389995169
Modern Rechargeables are great, just grab a few sets, a decent charger and 2 little plastic bins so you can easily track which ones are to be charged and already charged and you'll never have a battery worry ever again.

>>389995946
you can do that with literally any controller

wireless is needed for some people/convienience

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>>389995210
>PS4 pad runs out
>Plug in micro USB aka the most abundant fucking cable ever

>Xbone runs out of battery
>You don't have any more
>To continue playing, you need to leave your house, go to the nearest shop, pay $ to get batteries, make your way back, put them in then continue playing

>>389995637
You can get a 6 foot extension for $1

>>389996193
>wanting long ass cables everywhere

i've done that with controllers and an extension cable for headsets, much prefer wireless

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>After 2 years, ps4 controller battery is down to 1.5 hours of charge
>Have to play wired and sit closer to the TV, take the entire thing apart and place an order for a sketchy chinese knock-off, or buy an entire new controller

haha yeah, fuck those AA-users, right? thanks Sony

>>389996189
>you need to leave your house, go to the nearest shop, pay $ to get batteries, make your way back, put them in then continue playing

I spent $50 to get a little stockpile of Low Self Discharge batteries like a decade ago. I haven't bought a battery since. Everything in my house is using them

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>>389996189
>buy a pack of eneloops from costco for $20
>never have to worry about batteries again

>Xbone controller on one charge: several months
>PS4 controller on one charge: 10 hours

Really makes you think.

>>389994782

It's so they can cut cost on the controller itself and then sell you the rechargeable battery pack that allows it to work just like every single other battery-powered electronic in the universe.

They've been doing this forever- remember when they launched the Xbox 360 with no built-in WiFi (and the adapter was ~$90IIRC) and only included a hard drive on the $400 SKU? Nintendo cheaped out on rechargeable batteries with the Wii but even they had built-in WiFi and internal storage.

>>389995307
leds don't use that much
from what i've heard it's the useless touchpad that doesn't even do anything except act as one or two extra buttons.

/v/ will defend shitty things like the microsoft controller and I still don't understand why. Every controller ever made is superior.

>>389994782
>buy third party rechargeable batteries
>have AA slot as a backup
Don't really see a problem desu

>>389994782
I've been a PC/Sonybro my whole life and i wished they used batteries.
Mainly because you could replace them with these hotcakes >>389994842
The xone controller has faults (much like the ps4), but the choice of using oldschool AA batteries is not one of em.

>>389996476
I've had my PS4 since Bloodborne's release in 2015 and the battery charge lasts 6 hours on average, the fuck did you do to it?

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>>389994842
fpbp

>>389994842
One last great thing of Japanese engineering.

>>389995169
I'd personally just rather buy a 50 pack of AAs which would be the same price as 4 of those. Controller batteries don't go dead that quick. For me, it would take like a decade for me to use 50 batteries in my Logitech controller, and maybe it would have been cost effective by then to have rechargables. Depends on how you use them, I guess.

>>389996075
Or I can just buy a bunch of energizer industrial batteries from the store and write them off as a business expense so they cost me a grand total of $0. Stay mad poor pleb

>>389996189
Xbone pad works over Micro USB too you know?

PS4 controller runs out? have to sit closer to the TV so you can charge your controller. With each cycle the time this takes reduces slightly

Xbone runs out? have to change the batteries putting your old ones back into the charger and then continue. While this cycle speeds up over time, replacing the batteries is cheap. Not to mention you can recycle the batteries for other uses like torches and

It's just a difference in preference.

>>389994782
I bet you anything it's vertical integration. They probably have a secret deal with duracell so they make their controllers like that.

>>389995307

I don't think it's due to the light, I just think they cheaped out on the battery in the older models. The newer ones have enough battery life that they're unlikely to die on you as long as you plug them in to charge when you're not using the PS4.

>>389994910
>$6 a day for batteries for xbox

>>389997390
you can also charge it off of your laptop
or your desktop
or literally any adapter plugged into your wall

you don't plug your phone into the PS4 and sit in front of the TV when it runs out, do you?

>>389997223
50 packs of AA's are generally shitty, and run out in under an hour. Also they self discharge at around the same rate as Eneloops. But unlike Eneloops when they get old they swell up and leak goo everywhere. Eneloops don't cost much more, like $2 each for genuine ones, and decent knockoffs can be had for <$1

>PS4 controller
>3-4 hour battery life

Seriously, this thing is a piece of absolute shit.

why the fuck would you even use wireless? just hide a powered usb hub under your couch, run the main wire back to the console hidden under a rug, wire the controllers, and your fucking done. no more battery jew. wireless and glass glossy tvs are the biggest fucking memes.

>>389997856
But, that powered USB hub will cost you as much as Eneloops...

>>389995472
>still its an extra expense
You know what's an even bigger extra expense? Trying to search for working controllers that both hold a charge and can be recharged 15 years after the console they're for ends production because said controllers used proprietary batteries that couldn't be easily removed or replaced.

Batteries die and eventually leak. AA batteries are cheap and ubiquitous, and are thus future-proof.

>>389994782
>decided to start a new game of Lost Odyssey last night, so I dusted off my XB1 and got ready to go
>"WHY HALLO THAR, YOU NEED TO SPEND THE NEXT HOUR DOWNLOADING 20GB WORTH OF UPDATES THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO EXPLAIN WHAT THEY DO BUT IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO DOWNLOAD NO GAME FOR YOU!"
>all the downloading and installing finally finishes, and I get to playing
>not more than 20 minutes later the console starts screaming at me that the controller batteries are dead

Xbox was a mistake.

>>389997856
or. Here's a thought. Buy some batteries that aren't shit. Rechargeable batteries are dirt cheap as are the chargers for them. Just having 2 to 4 batteries as charged spares. Most games auto-pause now when it detects the controller disconnected (in this case died) so you can just swap batteries with little issue. I bought a $11 8 pack of Energizer Lithium Ion based AA's for my 360 controller like 2 years ago. I'm still on that same pack.

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>charge once
>battery lasts a decade

use the pro for pc now, i fucking love this thing
its not like it got any use on the wii U

>>389998094
>this amount of damage control to justify his purchase of an Xbox
You poor das bastard

>>389994782
there is literally no problem with batteries. eneloops are so easy and cheap to get and last years and they add a heftiness/weight to the controller. of course a dumb autismal anime watching virgin loves his shitstation controllers.

>you have to sit next to the console or use a long cable
you don't need to charge the PS4 controllers directly from the console, you can charge the controller with any power source while playing. I have a power outlet right next to my couch and just charge my controller there while playing. I'm pretty sure the Xbone controller should work the same.

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>>389998348
>That joystick placement
Fucking. Dropped. It's trash. and so are you

>>389998509
I have a PS4. AA batteries is the one thing M$ got right.

>>389998348
awful build quality, abysmal dpad

>>389998509
I don't own an Xbox, you faggot. I'm giving you a real, quantifiable reason why AA batteries are an objectively better battery to use for controllers than the proprietary batteries that are in Sony and Nintendo controllers. The Xbox controller using AAs is one of the only things the Xbox controller does right.

Take the fanboy cock out of your mouth long enough to understand the point I'm making here.

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>>389998559
I just made it a point to buy a dual controller charging dock. When I went and bought my PS4 and shit, I just went all out. What's another $90 for another controller + dual dock charger when I'm spending $900 today at FUCKING GAMESTOP?

>replace DS4 battery with a DS3 battery
>it last like three times longer
>Actually its not the touchpad or light fault
Fuck SONY for being big jews and use shitty batteries.

>>389998348
I remember not using my wii u for a year, turning it on and the wii u pro controlller still had 3 bars of battery

Shit never dies

>>389996258
>But I can't do thing
>Sure you can here's workaround
>BUT

>>389998616
Stop using that Mini Kitty garbage

>wireless controllers
>batteries

Just use wired.

I like having options for easily replacable batteries, so that when the included battery dies for good the controller isn't just a hunk of junk.

It's especially shitty for the Vita and presumably the Switch.

And the battery on the dualshock is unremovable, so when it goes bad youre fucked

I usually buy the play and charge kit, its a bit more expensive but that way i dont have to pay for batteries and i dont have to worry about trashing a perfectly good controller because the batteries are shot

also the duke 3 is just more comfortable in the hand

>>389994782
>xbone controller dies
>spend 20 seconds swapping batteries
>PS4 controller dies
>have to wait an hour for it to charge

It's really a rip off that DS4 controllers are fucking $60 a piece. They're garbage quality when you get down to it. Squishy triggers and the battery itself has an expiration date like some anons mentioned.

Where as the 360 and XB1 controllers are great. I say this as a mustard ricer and PS4 owner before all the spergs lose their minds. Nothing really beats my gen 1 Wavebird though. Man i miss that thing.

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>>389998348

Better built and ergonomics with the same 40 hour battery life.

>>389999314
or just plug it in

>>389999314
How do you have to wait an hour?

Just plug it on your PS4 with a micro usb cable

>>389998747
Is that ana and mcree? Whats she doing?

>>389999314
Also

>Xbone controller dies 10 years from now
>Spend 20 seconds swapping batteries
>PS4 controller dies 10 years from now
>Frantically search the Internet for a replacement battery, and if you're lucky enough to find one, you have to wait days for it to arrive
Guess which option is more sustainable?

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>>389997279

>has to cheat the system by writing off personal use batteries as a business expense in order to afford buying shitty disposable batteries
>calls others poor for buying high quality rechargeable batteries with their own non-written-off money

>>389999037
>And the battery on the dualshock is unremovable
it isn't, the batterty is attached to the board with a plug and is pretty easy to replace.

>>389999037
>And the battery on the dualshock is unremovable, so when it goes bad youre fucked

Actually it is changable, there's a proprietary connector inside the DS3. But you'll be buying Chinese garbage to replace it, and there are a few different battery fit methods from the different DS3 revisions, so you'll maybe be packing foam around it to keep it in place. But it's quite possible

>>389998714
>getting this asshurt
U mad? U sound mad bitch boi

>>389999314
>Spend $$$ buying batteries
>Spend $ buying a pack of 5 cables with differing lengths
>Use a super long one for wired controller
Moron.

>>389999473
>10 years from now

that's enough time for 2 more console generations
Why would you play PS4 then?

>>389999395

Yeah, I guess if you want to sit on the floor because that chord is so short. Plus, that controller is so shit in ergonomics its pathetic. I don't know why Sony can't ever get controllers right.

>ps3/4 controller degrades over time
>Xbox controller can swap batteries any time
Xbox and eneloop master race

>>389999349
>same 40 hour battery life.

But the Wii U Pro Controller has an 80 hour battery life. Longer if you don't use rumble.

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>Removable batteries are still used
>mfw i charge like 60 bucks for non-removable batteries that cost 6 bucks and take 5 minutes

i cant fucking wait for the switches to start failing at the 2 year mark. account tied to a device with a non-replacable battery? 150 fucking bucks for that 9 buck part. 59 minutes estimated battery life in just fucking 4 years?

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>>389999435
yup. And Ana is....comforting lil Mcree. Nope I don't have source. Was posted in some random thread forever ago.

>>389999640


Hot damn!

>>389999580
That defeats the purpose of having a wireless controller idiot.

>>389999349
i actually just really like the wiiU stick placement
everything else is a bonus

>>389999589
>Why would you play PS4 then?
So are you saying that this generation has no games that will be worth playing in 10 years? If that's the case, why are you playing video games at all?

>>389999805
That's your problem you fucking brainless retard.

>>389999480
>calls others poor for buying high quality rechargeable batteries with their own non-written-off money

You can still write off Eneloops just as easily. Also as a business expense, there may also be some local environmental subsidies you can claim, so Eneloops would be cheaper than free.

>>389994782
>PS4 battery is absolute shit when compared to XOne standard AA batteries
nice thread though

>>389999973
In 10 years there will be objectibly and technically better games, why stuck with an older console?

>>389994842
this. OP is retarded.

>>390000190
In 20 years there will be games that are better technologically than the games 10 years from now, so why play games 10 years from now?

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>>389994782
>lets pollute the world with lithium batteries

It's like they want our children to be radioactive.

>>389999805
It's not like your controller explodes or something, you can still play comfortably unless you're half-a-mile away from the TV

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>>390000315
>yfw literally the second post refutes this post over an hour ago

>>389998795
I can't believe you expected serious posts in a thread this shit

>>389999973
Knowing game publishers now all the worthwhile games are just going to be remastered in 10 years

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Fuck anyone who recommends wired controllers. I have been through so many mother fucking wired controllers that have all broken at some point, all thanks to one glaring issue manufacturers can never get right. This shit happens EVERY FUCKING TIME too.

The problem with wired controllers is the part that actually connects to the controller. Know what happens if you so much as sneeze on it or put the controller down on a weird angle? THE PIECE OF SHIT GETS LOOSE and then doesn't maintain connectivity anymore. I'd be playing through a game and even slightly moving the controller up or a down will disconnect it and I'm left with a game over screen.

Wired controllers are the worst thing to happen since the Holocaust. I'd rather buy a million batteries than ever deal with a wired controller again

>>389999872

I also use the Wii U controller as my PC gamepad for this reason. It's one of the most comfortable controllers I've ever owned AND it lasts me 80+ hours of gameplay before needing a charge. I've played through entire RPGs on a single charge.

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>>389994842
>>390000430
You do know that they wear out eventually.

When will everyone learn to use fission energy?

>>389999632
>ps3/4 controller degrades over time
>Xbox controller can swap batteries any time

Dunno if you've worn out any sticks yet. I have on the PS3/360. Chinese replacement sticks for the 360 are way easier to get, cheaper, and better quality. I dunno why, I'd think they should be equal, but they aren't.

>>390000703
>When will everyone learn to use fission energy?

I think you mean fusion energy.

>>390000612
are you holding the controllers by their wires and swinging them around

because I have never ever ever had that problem with any of my wired controllers and I fucking wrap them up like some kind of mongoloid

>>390000706
>buy one of those pad accessories to put over analog sticks
>PS4 Anniversary edition controller still has all of the material intact, even after two years of non stop playing

>>389994842
fpbp
The issue of having to change batteries is basically moot with Eneloops.
Not trying to shill or anything here, but the price-to-performance ratio of these batteries are so good that they're totally justified over the long run.

They work so well from personal experience that I'd rather use them over an internal battery that will eventually die out and be a pain to replace.

>>390000880
No, I'm always extra careful with them and it still fucking happens.

>>390000612
Gave my OGxbox controller and monster cables with a faulty connector that was causing blues to not show. Guy opened them up, said "oh the sodder just came off." he warmed some up and saved me $50-80 on new cables.

>>389997101
>All peripherals ever bought are exactly like mine and you're at fault.

Yeah. No kiddo. Double A all l the way homie.

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>>390000853
No, I don't

>>390000612
adding onto this, wired controllers with detachable wires are just as bad if not worse because after some use the connector won't stay in the fucking controller and easily falls out

>>390000967
You must be doing it unconciouslly, i never ever had problems with wired controllers

>>390001118
FROM MY POINT OF VIEW WIRED CONTROLLERS ARE SHIT

I have an xbone controller. I use rechargeables in it. The rechargeables last about 6 or so hours.

>>390000967

>set down controllers super carefully
>pick them up by the cord
>wonder why the cords break after you set the controller down so super carefully

>>390000967
>No, I'm always extra careful with them and it still fucking happens.

That happened to me, with the Atari 2600 when I was a child. It hasn't happened in the 30 years of gaming since, and I'm not being particularly careful

Alkaline > Sealed Lead Acid >Ni-Cd > Lithium > Ni-Mh > Lithium Ion > Absorbed Glass Mat > Lithium Polymer > Nuclear Fission

>>390001207
Fair enough

>>389997580
>using regular batteries
Literal retard

>>389994782
>solved
Removable, swappable, common batteries are a much better solution.

Microsoft gives you choice, Sony takes it away.

>>390001468

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8

>>389998573
see kids? only a nigger can dislike the Wii U controller

>>389994782
>plug controller into console with micro USB
Whoa problem solved

>>389994782
do you want to get jewed with a battery pack? if you fuck up the battery pack you are screwed. Rechargeable AAs are cheap and reliable.

Learn to technology, anon.

>>389996042
you don't have to buy the battery pack. Get some rechargeable AAs and you are done. With Sony, you get the dick in the ass from the beginning.

>>390000612
>>390001108
Nothing more true has ever been said until now.

>>390004363
what's a battery pack?

>>389995089

It is literally "Nickel and Dime: The Console".

"hay guise u like playstation? buy our console, its more expensive and without the games LOL."

What a fucking joke of a console line. 360 was pretty nice, but the One was one big boner from Micro$oft.

>>389995543
You don't need to take them out. The Xbone controller doesn't touch the AA batteries if plugged in via USB

>>390001543
>Buying batteries at all
Who is the real chump here? All the money you spent could have been used on games

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>disposable batteries

>>389999037

Seriously?

You remove 4 screws on the back of the controller and the battery is right there.

You can buy plug/play replacements (with twice the mAH) for $12 on amazon.

i'd rather the batterys, ds4 sucks ass for battery life, forever charging the cunt and its dropped out mid game so many times.

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>using wireless controllers

>>389999349
Nintendo needs to use the same battery for every pro controller they ever make from now on. I seriously went five months before I had to charge my Wii U controller. It's amazing.

>>390005312
This, i also umplugged the lightbar so now my shit lasts for ever

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>>390001103
>using such a mass inefficient method of generating energy
top grad student

>>390001468
You've got your crocodiles around the wrong way

Wireless recharging DualShock when?

>>390008070
>unplugging the lightbar
Oh fuck, is it really that easy? I hate that stupid pointless thing.