What kind of gems should I be stacking in my Kirkhammer? Physical

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>>389952016
Another pic of my dank mailbox.

>kirkhammer
good taste

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>>389952179
May the good blood guide your way, lad.

>>389952016
Blunt if you're trying to go ham on the hammer form, but it'll make the sword form useless
regular phys for both, if you're in chalices and want to use both forms you need a 1xheavy abyssal

>>389952907
Cool, I may just go pure blunt damage then. The sword is handy for parries and whatnot, but I use charged R2 + R2 and L-stick forward + R2 so much that I don't think I can justify physical or thrust damage. Backstep to R1 is great in sword form for the ayy lmaos though.

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What's your favorite set? Just found this shit, really love the look.

>>389952016
only use transformed and stack blunt gems and enjoy doing 1k damage a swing

CURSE THE FIENDS

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>>389952016
After several games of no matter what falling into building arcane gems or tools, I tried just going full strength and used the Kirk Hammer with blunt%.
Holy dear god was it powerful. From levels and stat scaling the sword is going to be okay but not great, but when you're in hammer form it's like you're a fucking god.

>>389954572
BASED KIRKHAMMER BROTHER

>>389954572
If you've never used it before, try a fully charged R2 immediately followed by another R2. It's a frontal cleave baseball swing that sends shit flying.

>>389952016
Blunt
>Ever using the sword
You are not yet proficient in the ways of the Smash

>>389952016
HULK SMASH PUNY COSMOS

>>389956147
I smash 98% of the time, but I'll practice parries and shit with the sword on trash mobs. I've got the fully charged R2 timing down fucking perfectly.

>currently playing through Bloodborne blind
>not really liking the Kirkhammer
>want to switch for a different weapon
>see this thread

Should I just stick with the Kirkhammer then?

>>389955413
>ywn smash in an ancient eldritch creature who can summon stars and fly's spongy head with a massive hunk of cheap impure iron

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>>389956463
If you don't like it then try other things. Personally I loved Hammer Time straight off the bat and I've used it ever since.

>>389956463
When you get used to the timing and range of it, you'll wreck the shit out of everything in sight. Make sure you're doing a STR/VIT build, and stuff it full of blunt damage blood gems.

>>389956463
Play what's fun for you anon.
Aside from a pure gun playthough, which IS possible but needs the DLC and a lot of skill and managment, you can play anyway you want. Bloodborne is really well balanced in that regard.

>>389952016
I always loved the kirkhammer due to it having all 3 damage types on it, so I always go phys%

But if you're not using the sword, there's no reason to not go all blunt

If you get blunts you can also try out the Beast Cutter, since that has only blunt damage and is actually a manly version of the cane

>>389956634
>>389956643
>>389956648
I'm currently on that vicar lady beast and I want to smash that head of hers for more damage and getting your health back is near impossible to with hammer part

>>389952016
I go full physical. It works for me.

>>389956463
If you like the 2H aspect, you can get Ludwig's Holy Blade for 20k echoes after you beat the BSB. Take the lift on the right side of Oedon's temple and fight your way to the top for a badge in a chest (sword hunter's badge?). Now you can buy LHB from the bath messengers. It's similar to the Kirkhammer in its moveset, but is easier on stamina, has more range, and is more geared for quality builds.

As a Kirkbro, I wasn't a huge fan of it, but I think I'm just too used to the hammer's moveset at this point.

>>389956648
>which IS possible but needs the DLC
Nah

Keep pumping BLT and using the pistol. Get radiant sword badge asap for bone marrow. The pistol will carry you to Cainhurst no problem. You can also get the Repeating one if you're good with managing bullets.
At Cainhurst you can rush the Evelyn chest, which will carry you through the rest of everything

>>389956917
You get the most rally (health back) with transform attacks (L1). Some weapons have higher/lower rally potential, but transformation attacks are always the way to go

Better blunt gems are much much harder to farm, but if you have them then use them I guess. Beyond losing out on sword form damage, the other problem with blunt gems is that they don't boost visceral damage like physical and thrust gems do. Kirkhammer still wants 25 skill, so losing visceral damage matters though not as much as on a 50 skill build. Unless you never parry and never get viscerals bn hitting weakpoints or whatever.

>>389952734
Gascoigne doesn't approve of blunt weapons anon...

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>>389957297
Meant to use this one, tbqh.

>>389957084
Oh damn really? I didn't realize it was strong enough to handle bosses. I'll have to try that next playthrough.

>>389953952
i like that set for arcane builds
that helmet+charred looks kinda cool, but a lot of shit looks cool with charred set

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>>389953952
Yahar'Gul set has always been my favourite.

guys, do the visceral attacks scale with anything? BLT? STR?

>>389957529
skill

>>389957495
Absolutely based, didn't even know this was there. Gonna grab it after work tonight.

>>389957529
If I remember correctly, it's quite a few things. Your overal level will increase its damage regardless of what the points are on. Then skill boosts it by a large % on top of that base, with strength being a very small % on top of that base. The attack is specifically thrust, so physical, nourishing, and thrust gems on your currently equipped weapon also boost it.

>>389952016
I tend to go full phys, sometime ago I read something about how blunt damage scaled worse in comparison with going full physical.

>>389956917
If you have the DLC, after killing Vicar you can run around collecting weapons there without killing the first boss. The Whirligig Saw is just a better kirkhammer in a lot of ways.

The only other real option of similar type is ludwig's holy blade, as someone else mentioned. I would say it's a flawless weapon as far as pve is concerned, and it's overused for a very good reason.

>>389957438
Definitely is. You do need to maximize the blood bullet ability for Gascoigne, but after you get Evelyn it's cake. Marrowed shots dealt like 700 something damage to Rom last I remember with 40 or so BLT
Anything that can be parried dies even faster with Marrow + counter damage

>smash the Shadows of Yharnum to death
>about to go to Byrgenwerth
Kind of excited, lads.

>>389958790

Rom can be a tricky fight with slower weapons that leave you as open as the hammer does. Just don't get greedy and take your time.

Also don't waste your insight on summoning any of the NPC hunters for this fight if you have been. They die to the adds almost instantly.

>>389959372
Honestly the only summoning you should be doing would be for the fire dog in defiled chalice. That guy is a fucking asshole on half health

>>389959372
Thanks for the tip, friend. I generally don't use the bells unless I feel like I'm beating my head against the wall. But I've also been stockpiling my madman's knowledge, so I have 22 or so sitting in my inventory in case I need them.

>>389959510

That whole fucking chalice is bullshit. The dog wasn't half as much trouble as Amy.

>>389959634

I spent all my insight buying chunks for the DLC weapons that I liked because I got really sick of farming for them. At 20 per chunk even every insight you pick up during the game doesn't go far.

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>>389959634
Hang tight and don't let the frenzy bugs bite!

>>389959871
Honestly I had alot more problems with the dog than Amagdala

>>389959910
Should I equip my 200 frenzy resist rune before venturing into Byrgenwerth?

>>389960217
There's only a handful of things that give frenzy, and you can dodge their grab.

>>389960217
I don't think it matters too much. I think in about 5 playthroughs i've died due to frenzy once, maybe, that wasn't a grab

>>389960217

Nah, even if you get grabbed there they shouldn't trigger it.

>>389960124

The only thing the dog ever got me with was the dash, and that has a pretty obvious wind up. Amy's thrashing got me damn near every fucking time, especially in the last stage of the fight.

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>Kirkhammer
what the fuck

>>389952135
How does the sword not break?

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>>389960746

Because blood.

Is it possible to make a gun a viable combat tool aside from just parrying? Or would it require spamming Bone Marrow Ash to get any damage out of it? Kind of interested in a bloodtinge build and I'm wondering how powerful a gun can become.

>>389960929

Bloodtinge is tough to build up to until you get to Cainhurst, but very very worth it. I went full vileblood with the Evelyn and Chikage and breezed through the entire game and chalices for the platinum. You can spam bone marrow for ranged damage to bosses when you need it, but I found it wasn't necessary the majority of the time.

>>389960929
see
>>389957084

>start new playthrough
>go dex
>use cane
feels good. usually i go retard meta and just vit pump while using saw cleaver, r1 my way to a better weapon. really diggin a different kinda approach to playing

>>389961458

I still have to come back to it a do an arcane run. It's the only stat I haven't capped during a run yet.

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>>389960929
>Is it possible to make a gun a viable combat tool aside from just parrying
grab DLC minigun and simon's bowblade, pump BLT to 50
enjoy the carnage

>>389961458
*tips fedora* Ah, a fellow gentleman of taste. You should make sure to pick up the top hat for the height of fashion, good sir!

>>389961720
memes aside its the only weapon i haven't used besides Amygdala Arm, Rakuyo and Beast claws so i figured since you get it right off the bat might as well do a playthrough with it

I discovered the tonitrus last playthrough. After going through chalice dungeons for the proper gem set up... holy fucking shit what a weapon of mass destruction. I literally steam rolled all of NG+ without any problem. Insanely fast, and insane damage.

>>389962053

But did you use its little brother too?

>>389962301

Yup. That late chalice dungeon with the small humanoid cosmos things that just line up for you was a pleasant experience with the tiny tonitrus. About a million souls each run as well.

Redpill me on how to fuck up Logarius. You can dodge 99% of his attacks, but he never stops to give you an opening and eventually wears you down. I don't even have the opportunity to party.

Is he just freaking out temporariky? Gascoigne was an unstoppable monster for a few tries until his ai calmed down a bit.

>>389962642
Oh man nostalgia from when it first came out and there was that RAM leak issue.

>>389962642

Logarius is the same as Gwyn. Stop dodging and start shooting.

>>389952135
I like the idea of the kirkhammer but every time I use it I just think about how this thing should be breaking in fucking half whenever I swing it in hammer-mode

i can suspend my disbelief for cthulu werewolves and shit but impractical weapon designs no-ho-ho

>>389962773

Thanks fampai

>>389962854
Same here.
I'll forever just use saw spear, cane and bom.
Even though, let's face it, they're retardo as well!

>>389962854
It's a holy hammer, imbued with the power of the good blood

>>389962854
Well doesn't the actual hammer and haft hook onto the handle? So the blade doesn't bear the weight of the hammer. Forgive me I don't know much about weapons.

>>389963472
Yes, but that's still an enormous amount of weight just on the bottom.

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>that 1H -> 2H transform attack where you swing with the sword then grab the hammer with your left hand and smash them with it
Brilliant.

>>389963981
>pic not named enb.jpg

>>389963981
This plus R2+R2. The hammer is so visually pleasing I can't not use it.

>>389952016
>using the Kirkhammer instead of the Amygdala Arm
I don't understand, BBP on both give you insane damage but Amy Arm has that insane reach.

BB just did weapons so much better. They're almost all unique, feel fun and interesting, and don't feel like they're locked behind huge stat requirements that take half the game to reach.

>>389964207
You're missing the key point here

One is a hammer

>>389964440
The other is a severed arm.

You're telling me you don't want to beat back Great Ones with one of their own limbs? That's how you send a fucking message - STAY OUT OF OUR REALITY YOU ASSHOLES

>>389964639
The hammer is man-made though. You don't need any part of them to beat them back. You just need a slab of iron, your mitts, and your own human rage. You're essentially killing a god with a big ol' rock. Fuck them. FUCK THEM

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>>389964885
I guess, but I'm talking from a pure psychological perspective. Nothing will terrify Great Ones more than realizing we can just ascend to their level, rip off their limbs, and beat them to death with them.

Anyone can pick up a rock, or a tool. It takes a true Hunter to tear his prey apart.

the wiki is your best friend for gem farming in the dungeons

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>>389965227
I've got this picture.

I've only done the very first 3-level dungeon with undead giant/merciless watchers/firedoggo

>>389952016
One heavy abyssal (assuming you have 50 STR) and two blunt 32.7% gems (from Isz and Ithyll Merciless Watchers boss) is the best you can get with it. With these gems and 25 SKL you can do over 800 fucking damage per L2 attack to another player in pvp

>>389965779
>Heavy Abyssal means cursed HBLB
I don't know if its worth it.

>>389953952
constable my nigga, too bad i dont have a picture of it

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>>389952016
>>389953952
I like the White Church Robes.

>>389966406
It looks great on males but I hate how it looks on females. The choir garb is better imo.

>>389966406
I use that quite a bit, because it's hilariously gore spattered by the time you clear a zone

>>389965673
i cant beat amygdala in the defiled Pthumeru dungeon. Any tips? Or should i ask vg/bbg for help?

Are there any fist weapons? I don't care if they're trash.

>>389968041
You can use your literal fist. Or there's the Stake Driver.

>>389968147
But usually weaponless fists are shit in the Souls games, so I haven't tried them.

>>389968041
There's an off-hand one you get in the DLC to replace the use of a pistol with a big iron knuckle.

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>>389952016
>I must use an objectively inferior weapon purely because it is unpopular

What drives people to this kind of contrarianism?

>>389956463
>switch to ludwigs
>trigger nerds

>>389968401
fun

the struggle to win with something you enjoy

>>389960746
>>389962854

its fantasy bro just turn off your brain lol

>>389968640

I played my first playthrough of BB using only the Threaded Cane. It was pretty awesome. Really fucked me over in some areas, but was worth it in the end.

>>389968401
How is it inferior? The thing hits like a diesel train when your STR is suitably high and it's got the proper gems.

>>389968760
so does fucking everything.

there's a constantly kirkhammer circlejerk in this thread and it just makes me want to invade and kill you shitters.

>>389968853
let me guess, you use a saw weapon or chikage, right?

Where does the NotBattle Axe stack up? I love it in the souls game

>>389968853
>people can't like things that I don't like
A U T I S M
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>>389968926
i am a wheely boi.

>>389952016
I wanted to like the Kirkhammer but it fucking sucks honestly

doesn't even do much damage considering the awful range. If you want to make the weapon hard to hit with, then fine, but at least make it satisfying as hell to land that clean hit and totally blow the enemy away. As it is, it's really not much fun.

>>389969137
>he never got it past +2
Lad. I'm at +6, and a fully charged R2 almost never does less than half a health bar on anything but a boss. Follow it up with the immediate R2 horizontal swing, and you kill pretty much everything in front of you in two hits.

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>>389969107

>>389969379
I got it to +4 actually. Yes, the R2 charge hits hard, but for how close you have to get it's still lacking.

>>389968853
Get mad cause peeps like the same weapon in a game with much smaller variety. Shig

But whatever Simon's Bowblade and stake driver nigger here.

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who /pyromaniac/ here?

everything EVERYTHING burns

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>>389961708

LEAVE MY DAUGHTER ALONE!!!!!!!!

>>389969563
It's all about the timing

>>389969657
unfortunately it scales really poorly in lategame and especially ng+
very fun and viable in the very beginning though, good for finishing people in pvp too, as it's basically a better fire surge

>>389955627
Stop, anon. Don't tell everybody, you are ruining my bait tactic.

>>389964440
>>389964639
LIVING arm. How can the hammer even compete?