This is by far the worst Playstation console, why do people

Switch has only one game and everything on xbone can be played better on PC

>>389943741
Because it is among the 2 best to ever exist.

>>389943741
As underwhelming as the PS4 is, the competition is even worse. This gen-and-a-half is the Special Olympics.

>>389943741
How is it worse than ps3 and that whole shitty gen

>>389945352
the PS3 had more games

>>389945405
>PS3 had the no games meme
>now the PS4 has no games

You guys need to think of something better.

i stopped buying consoles when they started requiring subscriptions to use them

i wont even buy these second-hand, they are worthless, like a second-hand copy of an mmo disc with a one-time-only code, its useless and tainted

sony couldve done the cool thing and left microsoft being the lemon that charged for using internet that you already pay for, but they were greedy (surprise) and fucked console gaming forever

>>389945491
But the PS4 really does have no games.
At least the PS3 had some good games that actually made the console worth buying.

>>389945491
what I mean is the PS3 had more games in comparison to the PS4, the PS2 and PS1 were obviously better

the PS brand gets worse each gen

>>389944659
If you honestly believe the PS4 is a better console than the Xbox One or Switch there is no hope for you. The thing is trash and gets worse by the day. Sony literally cannot stop fucking over everyone who owns one.

It's the best console this generation.

>>389945745
>>389945761
Is this the part where I list all the PS4 exclusives and then you guys say "lol those don't count' ?

>>389945745

Maybe you just don't have taste? It's the only platform with many exclusices that are extremely worthwile, even after 'losing' a whole bunch like Nier. And all the multiplatform games and ports of typical pc games including crpg and even rts. There is litterally no reasonable way to shit on the ps4 when talking about games.

Sony won this generation.

>>389945796
(You)

legit answer incoming, i am bored

nintendo doesn't have games now, but the future seems to get better, as fans(somehow) loved the switch. there are botw and mario rabbids now, but the future probably have good exclusives (unless they do mariokart 9,10,11 and copy shit instead of doing new shit)

xbox is a 4k minecraft mememachine. i mean, /v/ said "it has no games" to every console, but xbox 1 took this shit to another level. give pc sunset overdrive too, that shit is the only worth thing left in xbox 1, kill that machine with fire pls.

about frame-dropstation 4.. i have a ps4 pro. all i can say is, atleast this shit has exclusives that make it worth buying. bloodborne, yakuza 0, persona 5 all are very good. the other exclusives, like the order 1886, are good experiences if you can get them for cheap.

so yeah. shit gen, ps4 is winner because it has fucking games.

>>389945923
>>389945868
the Wii U had better exclusives than the PS4 and it's dead

>>389945984
>other exclusives, like the order 1886, are good experiences if you can get them for cheap.
it's absolute fucking trash m8

sonybros are deluded and think 3 good exclusives (Bloodborne, Persona 5, Yakuza 0) and 3 okay exclusives (Gravity Rush 2, The Last Guardian and Uncharted 4) is a good return after 4 years

>>389946013
no, it didn't. it did at the time, but PS4 surpassed it this year.

a wiiu will also only appeal to you if you enjoy nintendo games, if you don't then it has absolutely nothing else to offer.

As evidenced by this post, they can't defend it so they attack the other consoles:
>>389944078

>>389946065

well, in my opinion, that shit would be good if that thing had a fucking ending. other than that, i am ok with that game. i am not a shooter guy so i am looking at that game casually, comparing with cod and shit, order was interesting. outfits-lore(round table and shit) was ok, graphics were good, special weapons were fun(although there was only 2). i had fun with the game.

the problem is, game was all about graphics. ok, graphics, goodjob, well.. congralutions but i would fucking rather you finished the damn game. i think the order 1886 would get much better scores-reviews if the game was complete.

>>389946213
>but PS4 surpassed it this year
it has like 5 good exclusives, the Wii U has 10
>a wiiu will also only appeal to you if you enjoy nintendo games, if you don't then it has absolutely nothing else to offer.
same thing applies for the PS4 unless you like movies

>>389943741
Because last gen (yes the ps4 is last gen) was shit, and even though the Wii U had the best hardware (as in small, quiet, low power use, backwards compatability) and library, the PS4 has the most sales so devs dump all their anime games and multiplats on it.

The generation isn't over yet, holy fuck people the PS3 has been out for twice as long as the PS4 and you are comparing their libraries?

>>389946191
>counting Yakuza 0
>but not counting Yakuza Kiwami
that's at least 4 in your good category chum, not to mention the upcoming 6, kiwami 2 and yakuza/fotns which would make it 7

>>389943741
It's pretty bad but at least it's not as horrible as the PS3.

>>389946529
it's a remake and I feel no need to include it when really it's gameplay is the same

>>389943741
xbox one exists

>>389946352
>it has like 5 good exclusives, the Wii U has 10
I can think of 10 for the PS4 right now
>same thing applies for the PS4 unless you like movies
Ebin meme! Except, it's not actually true :-/

>>389946516
Last gen ended in March with the release of the Switch.

>>389946262
Don't need to defend when you're winning

>>389946623
The XBXOX isn't a Playstation though.

>>389946640
>I can think of 10 for the PS4 right now
go on...

>>389946352
>the Wii U has 10
As someone who owns one: no

>>389946680
Bloodborne
Nioh
Yakuza 0
Yakuza Kiwami
Yakuza 6
Gravity Rush 2
The Last Guardian
Ratchet & Clank
Let It Die
WipeOut Omega Collection

Yeah I was born in 92 and the PS1 was my first console so I don't have any loyalty to Xbox or Nintendo

it's a shit console, pushed me over to PC, I can't see anyone who experienced the PS1 and PS2 think the PS4 is good

>>389946679
its the worst console though, playstation is right after that

>>389946616
>it's a remake
From the ground up with a new engine, new combat, new controls, new cutscenes and story elements, new content, etc.

It's more like an expansion for 0 than it is a straight remake. It's also only $25.

>>389946662
So I guess there won't be anymore PS4 games coming out until Sony rush out their switch killer, because they are shaking in their boots at the magnificent graphic fidelity the 360, I mean the Switch is capable of.

>>389946802
>playstation is right after that
think you'll find that's actually the switch

>>389946947
Even the Wii 1 is still getting new games. Just because PS4 and XBox One are last gen now doesn't mean they won't get any new games anymore.

>>389946967
forgot about that one

>>389946516
>the PS3 has been out for twice as long as the PS4
PS3 has been out for 11 years and the PS4 only 3. It's almost 4 times as old.

>>389946772
>Bloodborne
okay
>Nioh
okay
>Yakuza 0
okay
>Kiwami
remake
>Yakuza 6
not out unless you're a nip
>Gravity Rush 2
it's pretty average I like the first game more but yeah okay
>The Last Guardian
okay
>Ratchet & Clank
remake
>Let It Die
it's shit
>WipeOut
haven't played

I'm not being biased, I wouldn't describe that list as 10 good original exclusives

>>389946901
It's a remake of the first game with the engine 0 used

>>389947159
Yes, which entails 1 getting new combat, new controls, and new graphics. And additionally new content, undub and new cutscenes.

>>389947069
Why do remakes suddenly not count? Are you confusing them for remasters? They're not the same, you know.

>people even counting the switch when not only is it not technically in the same Gen, it hasn't even been out for over a year yet
At least wait until 2018 rolls around, launch years for consoles have been shitty lately.

And before you call me a "Nintendo fanboy", the PS4 shits all over the Wii U, and the PS4 doesn't even have that amazing of a library compared to older PlayStation systems.
This last two generations have been laughably bad for everyone that isn't a PC gamer.

shut up, apeescape faggot

>>389947374
>not technically in the same gen
Yes, it is.

>>389947337
why would they? They're not true exclusives and they're not truly original, they just take everything from a game and feed it into a newer engine

I'm not someone who hates them, but my standards aren't low enough to believe they're a brand new game

>>389943741
It absolutely is

I own and love each Sony console and handheld, but the PS4 is definitely the autistic child of the family. Love it because I have it, but really wish it had turned out more like the others.

If I had a competent PC, I really doubt I would much use it at all. It's kind of redundant compared to its predecessors, which enjoyed a rich and varied native library, including cult or niche games and B-games that would not be funded today. But I figure this is owed in large part to publisher consolidation and runaway game budgets.

>>389947337
if remakes do count then Wind Waker and Twilight Princess HD count for the Wii U

>>389947069
>remakes only count when they're on Switch

It's the best selling console this generation for a reason. It's the best console.

>>389947635
Those are remasters, not remakes

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>>389946469
>the Wii U had the best hardware (as in small, quiet, low power use, backwards compatability) and library
Good one buddy, tell us another joke

>>389947656
no they're remakes that have a new engine, with different controls and quests and content like Yakuza Kiwami

if you can't be consistent on what counts, no remakes will be allowed

>xbox will get PUBG, the best game in recent years

>>389947529
>They're not true exclusives
Here we go, the arbiter of video games speaks
>they just take everything from a game and feed it into a newer engine
Yeah, except that isn't the case at all. Kiwami for instance uses the combat styles of 0 instead of 1, has an entirely new systems like Majima Everywhere, and much need story updates like Nishiki finally getting fleshed out after 20 years.

Remakes do count, remasters don't.

>>389947748
>WW and TW princess have a new engine
yes the bloom everywhere engine

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Seething.

>>389947850
>>389947884
keep moving the goalposts, the fact you're arguing this hard about a remake proves the PS4 has jack shit

>>389947159
well you can't exactly pop the disc in your Xbone either

I prefer Xbox, if only because Sony hasn't unfucked the servers since the PS3.
http://downdetector.com/status/playstation-network/archive/

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>>389947069
>Kiwami
>Includes new story and side mission content as well as advancements from newer entries

>Ratchet & Clank
>New weapons, different story

>Let It Die
>He doesn't know how to use mushrooms

The first two games may be based off of old games but they have enough changes and advancements to be considered their own thing. And yes, if a game is only available on a certain platform, then it's an exclusive.

The switch is a new gen console
PS4 went against the WiiU

>>389947951
>Crash Trilogy and Yakuza Kiwami
>remakes done from scratch
>WW and TP´for WiiU
>the same game but with more bloom the hide the outdated graphics

>>389948060
>"different" story
yeah worse lol

>>389947748
>A high-definition remaster, The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD, was released for the Wii U in 2013
>remaster
What did I say?

And Twilight Princess launched on both at the same fucking time. That's like saying BOTW on Switch is a remake.

WW and TP are not remakes. Even OOT and MM on 3DS have more claim to being a remake.

>>389948086
Yeah, a worse story exclusive to that title

hold on, are sonynyggers championing their remasters now? how low can they even go

>>389948069
>The switch is a new gen console
Wrong.

>>389948156
Not wrong
Fuck off

>>389948069
This. The PS4 won its generaton sales-wise. The Switch is already a new generation. Let's wait and see how the PS5 and X4 will fare against the Switch.

>>389948069
Nintendo puts out a new console, it's already two gens behind.

>>389948181
It is wrong. If you weren't such a fucking babby, you'd know that a company releasing more than one console in a gen doesn't instantly make the latter next gen.
Now fuck off yourself.

>>389947771
Not an exclusive.

>>389948125
Well considering WiiUfags included remasters in every reccomendation thread i think they are just learning from the best

>>389948156
It's not even as powerful as the PS4 and Xbox One. Nintendo behind as always.

>>389948125
Remasters =/= remakes

Who's ready for more of this bullshit when sony hypes up PS5? http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=485754

>>389948069
Nintendo lost so hard they left the industry to make tablets. The Switch isn't a console. It's an underpowered tablet.

>>389948248
The switch is a new gen console, nothing will change that fact
Now kill yourself fag
Is pathetic that you are crying because a nu-nintendo console is better than your shit console

>>389943741

People like movie games now, anon. My sister's got one and is playing Witcher 3. Literally every time I watch she's in the middle a cutscene choosing what to say.

Unchartered 4, another movie game.

Knack 2, I could go on.

People buy stuff they like so Sony makes it. PS2 blows this thing out of the water.

>>389948323
>WiiU is barely more powerful than the 360
>Switch is barely more powerful than the WiiU
>Ergo, Switch is barely more powerful than the 360
Imagine how far behind the Switch will be considering the next consoles have to be even more powerful than the XBONEX.

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>>389948481
>The switch is a new gen console
If that's the case then its laughable how the hardware is barely more powerful than the 360

>>389948481
>The switch is a new gen console
Nope, much like Atari releasing the 7800 and the XEGS, and Hudson releasing the PC Engine and the PC Engine Duo, Nintendo have simply released two consoles during Gen 8.

I understand an underage newfag like yourself doesn't know anything before Gen 7, but this isn't actually something new.

>>389948579
That happens, and before you call me a nintenfag for saying that it is a new console
I stopped buying their shitty consoles since they announced the wii

>>389948531
what is even the point of power if it's just used for movie games

>>389945745
PS3 didn't have games until the end of the generation.

>>389948651
I would argue they have started a new gen or gone in their own direction, there hasn't really been a console like the Switch before

>>389948651
Is really nice that an underage like you knows about the XEGS, it was my favorite console back in the day
Kill yourself

>>389948739
>what is even the point of power if it's just used for movie games
I dont know to keep an steady framerate at least?
>tfw Bayo2 was 900p and it dropped frames like crazy whenever there was more than two enemies on screen

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>>389944078
>but Nintendo and Microsoft

Neither of their companies are failing, meanwhile Sony hemorrhages money from everything that isn't their games division and no that isn't enough to keep the brand afloat.

>>389948741
it had MGS4, Valkyria Chronicles, Resistance, Rachet and Clank, lots of weeb games

>>389948850
ah yes, that silky smooth 30fps

>>389948926
as opposed of the sub30fps on the switch?

>>389948815
I can understand arguing that it belongs in its own category, it's a hybrid and there hasn't really been anything like it before.

However, I think switch will be the outlier in that regard, and ultimately end up categorised as either an 8th gen home console or a handheld.
By 2020, MS and Sony will have announced new consoles, and Ninty will follow suit by 2023 at the latest. That will be Gen 9.

>>389948885
>meanwhile Sony hemorrhages money from everything that isn't their games division and no that isn't enough to keep the brand afloat.
Yes the obligatory 'SONY IS DOOMED' post

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I like my ps4 pro and its exclusives, you can say what you want, but you wont change my opinion. I also have decent pc, so im of superior ilk. Go away op, you're a fag.

>>389948651
The PC Engine and the PC Engine Duo are the same shit, the duo is just the main console and the CD addon put together

>>389948885
>Sony hemorrhages money from everything that isn't their games division
Sony, as a whole, just had the most profits they've had in two decades.

Furthermore, PlayStation isn't even their most profitable division. Sony Finance is.
Only Sony Pictures is at risk (arguably less now the abortion that is the Emoji Movie turned a profit) and who gives a single solitary shit about that?

>>389945745
most good PS3 games are now on PS4 with better res and framerate

>>389944659
This is some retarded logic.


Why buy it if it's shit

>>389949284
No that's the PC Engine 2

>>389949294
>actually being a sonyboi

>>389949310
>those
>good
>muh resolution and framerate
Fucking end yourself right now.

>>389949310
>uncharted and tlou are the good ps3 games
no

>>389949310
JUST

>>389949417
>proves you wrong on your shit
>LOL HE MUST A FANBOY

>>389949417
>knowing facts makes me a fanboy
Sorry, should I just mindlessly parrot shitposts to fit in?

>>389943741
Its not the best console ever but its the best on the market.

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>>389949796
>>389949814
>triggered sonybois
lmao,see ya fags, gonna go have sex with my gf and play some Mario Kart together

>>389949365
There is no PC Engine 2
There are Coregrafx 1 and 2 which only had upgraded hardware
And the other ones like the supergrafx

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Post games that Nintenbros will NEVER play

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>>389949995
>gonna go have sex with my gf and play some Mario Kart together
>gf
Gonna be hard playing MK with one hand only

>>389950009
Supergrafx was originally called PC Engine 2

>>389947454
It's really not.
Hell, if you really want to count the virtual boy as a console, then it's two generations ahead.

ps3 is way worse kys

>>389949995
>Says the Nintendownie as he sits in his quiet corner playing his bing bing wahoo fisher price tablet.

>>389950263
>It's really not
It really is.

Sony won.

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>>389950432

>>389950263
The virtual boy is a handheld

What always make me laugh is that sonybro are losing against the worst form of Nintendo
Really pathetic

>>389951162
>t-they are losing
isnt this the same type of logic shillary supporters use?

>>389948885
SONY DOOMED! If the Emoji movie made a profit of 110M, then these fuckers can practically get away with anything.

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>>389943741
PS4 will be worth comparing to older gens with the ending of its lifespan. And it can be defended, because PS4 and Switch are the only consoles worth buying these days and which to buy is a matter of preference. All "those exclusives are shit" arguments does not count, because things like that can be supported only by the real numbers.

>>389952579
exclusives are not selling well on the PS4 so don't expect too many

Should we even be comparing the Switch with the Playstation 4 and Xbox One? If anything we should be comparing Switch games to Ipad and Samsung Galaxy Tab games.

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>>389946662
>switch
>next gen

>>389953152
>exclusives are not selling well on the PS4 so don't expect too many
>implying
PS4 exclusives never sell well according to /v/

>>389953152
Are there trusting sources on that matter? Have never seen one, so if you can provide one it will be appreciated.
>>389953350
Nah, it's cool. Only thing that there's no multiplatforming games, but that's another subject.

>>389953867
>no multiplatforming games
*meant not too many of them, don't really keep up with news on it, so can forget time to time about it's current state

>>389943741
It's not so much about how the PS4 is great, but rather how much Microsoft and Nintendo shit the bed.

Microsoft
>Intended draconian DRM policies soured much of their pre-launch hype
>Forced Kinect when not only nobody used it, but it increased the price of each unit by $100
>Launch model was Xbox hueg
>No games, and even now most promoted games are just ports of Steam indie games

Nintendo
>Wii U was literally the blunder of the century to the point where they had to release two consoles in one Gen
>Use similar parts in Switch that Apple uses, and as a result face shortages because of part constraints
>Looks to be another "weak hardware + wagglan console" that will inevitably lose all 3rd party support

>>389953867
>>389953152
the best selling exclusives on the PS4 are the Western ones like Uncharted 4

Bloodborne and Persona 5 sold well but the rest can't break 1 million which isn't very good considering how large the install base on the PS4 is

>>389954427
>Bloodborne and Persona 5 sold well but the rest can't break 1 million which isn't very good considering how large the install base on the PS4 is
Im pretty sure it's nopt about how many millions sell but if the developers could make their money back and then some

>>389954814
protip: they can't make money unless their games sell

>>389954865
You're acting like if japanese games have the budget of AAA western games and need to sell millions to make money
protip: 500K copies sold is considered a big success for most japanese devs

>>389955195
Can actually support this, Yakuza 0 looks like a game right out of 2010, only with HD character models, and that's not the only example.

>>389955195
no you're just trying rationalise their declining industry

as games continue to under perform on the PS4 expect ports to PC and Switch

>>389955939
You actually think that Japs spend as much cash on development as EA or Ubisoft? Sure, Square Enix and SEGA might on various titles but most Jap devs are far smaller. Games getting PC ports is more of a lure to get western players aboard because Japan only cares about Playstation and phones.

>>389955195
>Japanese devs are happy with their games selling like shit

>>389956185
More like japs devs being happy for their games meeting realistic sales goals

>>389956169
I hate to tell you this but the Switch is selling more than the PS4 in Japan

because i spent money on it

>>389956309
no they're not, it's why they're making phone games instead, they sell better than on the Playstation

>>389956185
>What are profit margins
Games that are cheaper to make don't need to move as many copies to be considered successful. Catherine sold slightly less than 700,000 copies in its first year, which would be considered shitty for most western games but by Atlus's standards it broke expectations

>>389956314
Wouldn't really be surprised by that, Switch's target audience are obviously japs.

The PS3 and Xbox 360 had an even worse first 4 years than this generation. It only held so much regard back then because of the jump in graphical quality and the first HD consoles.

>>389956314
The PS4 still has more lifetime units right now. If Nintendo gets their head out of their ass and actually puts units on shelves they'll be in business but for now that's not going to amount for much

>>389956314
And?

>>389956434
no they weren't, underaged

>>389956560
the Switch is selling more than the PS4 did at launch in Japan

>>389956434
Are you stupid? The first four years were pretty solid for both (the 360 more so than the PS3)

The jump from the PS2/Xbox to the PS3/360 was enormous in terms of features and graphical quality. Compare that to the jump from PS3/360 to PS4/Xbone, where the graphical jump isn't all that much and the consoles themselves are more of the same

>>389956625
And? Launch sales are almost always high for systems then die down to more sustainable levels

>>389945657
Quit being poor.

>>389956397
m8 you don't get it

yeah they make enough profit to stay afloat, but do you think most businesses want just that? No they want to be a huge success and seeing their game sell 200,000 on a system with 60 million users is not encouraging, companies want to grow

that's why the PS4 is getting less exclusives that the other Playstations and Jap games will continue to get PC ports

>>389956743
I had an Xbox 360 and really only the noteworthy games to come out that everyone remembered for the first 4 years was Halo 3, Bioshock, Gears of War, Oblivion and Mass Effect. Last generation was great if you enjoyed FPS and Third Person Shooters but offered very little else compared to what we've been getting now. This generation also had Japanese devs come swinging back after stagnating last gen.

>>389956825
And it's still selling ridiculous numbers in Japan

PS4 is 5 million in Japan, Switch is about 2 million already after 6 months, it's going to sell more units there

Is a PS4 Pro+ PC combo the best combo to have?
...at least i'll have actual games to play,right?

>>389957151
That or Switch+PC, but it really depends on if you like Nintendo games.

>>389957119
>forgetting Lost Odyssey, Condemned, Crackdown, Fable 2, Blue Dragon, Ace Combat 6, Kameo etc

Well OP is objectively right, the PS4 is worse than the PS1, PS2 and PS3.
The PS4 also is objectively the best console on the market at the moment without any competition which just shows in what a bad time we are living.

>>389943741
Because it's better than the current alternatives of consoles.

>>389957032
>yeah they make enough profit to stay afloat, but do you think most businesses want just that?
Unless you're retarded like Capcom and Square i dont think any devs want more than they can chew
>No they want to be a huge success and seeing their game sell 200,000 on a system with 60 million users is not encouraging, companies want to grow
This makes no sense, if it were like that, most devs that worked on 3DS games would never want to deal with nintendo again since their games dont sell millions on a handheld with 70M users

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>>389957032
>yeah they make enough profit to stay afloat
Oh? Didn't know you were an accountant working for them. P5 is their best-selling game EVER in Japan after being on sale for only a month, and Catherine was considered a bigger hit than expected. Games don't have to sell a gorillion copies to make money. Not everyone is going to balloon to the size of Ubisoft. I'd say you don't get it. No shit they'll get PC ports (look at all the weeb shit already on Steam), because once again Japan only cares about consoles or phone. The PC market is far bigger in America or Europe, but even with that they still make a sales PROJECTION based on their BUDGET to decide if a game is a success. No matter your platform you will have these. Some games are successful without the PC port, others aren't, and some are even more. Just shitting out a game on both PC and console doesn't make it a guaranteed success.

>>389957682
>since their games dont sell millions on a handheld with 70M users
yes they do

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>IF THE GAMES ON PS4 DONT SELL A QUADRILLION COPIES THEN WHY BOTHER THEY SHOULD PORT THEM TO PC ALREADY
By that logic more than half of the 3DS library should be on Steam by now since they also rarely hit 1M copies, including nintendo first party titles

>>389957780
>yes they do
Unless their name is Dragon Quest or Monster Hunter or any well known first party nintendo series, they dont

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>People actually think Jap games are failures if they don't move units at GTA levels

>>389957821
>>IF THE GAMES ON PS4 DONT SELL A QUADRILLION COPIES THEN WHY BOTHER THEY SHOULD PORT THEM TO PC ALREADY
that is literally the mindset of most Japanese devs, sorry if it triggered you

Yakuza will end up on PC eventually, Persona might as well

>>389945745
The PS4 actually has over 1700 titles.

>>389957973
If this were the case then they would have stopped making console games years ago.

Though in all actuality expect some established games to test the waters with a console release then follow up with PC support later

>>389957973
>that is literally the mindset of most Japanese devs
lol no, only greedy shits like Capcom think like this
>Yakuza will end up on PC eventually
Oh but it did in the form of a moba that's also on mobilesthanks for funding more console titles PC users

>>389957920
Bravely Default says hi

>>389958157
are you trying to imply Sega isn't greedy?

>If a game is on PC it'll be a guaranteed hit!

>>389943741
because Sony spent billions onto marketing and indoctrination
Sonybros are worse than Apple-zealots

>>389958237
the thing with PC is once a game is on Steam it will sell forever if it gets a good reputation, console games rarely have that type of longevity

>>389957032
That's like saying a local store that does good business is a giant failure because they aren't as big as Walmart

>>389958179
Codename Steam says hi
Chibi Robo says hi
Rune Factory 4 says hi

>>389950064
SAVAGED!

>>389958229
If they did they would've ported those games ages ago, also they arent greedy enough to think games like Yakuza would sell tens of millions of copies

>mention PC ports and Sonybros start autistic screeching about muh profit margins
kek, most devs aren't Nintendo who keep an advantage by keeping their software of their own hardware, normal devs want their games on as many systems as possible

>>389958513
>mention logic and PCfags start autistic screeching about how everything is a failure if its not on PC
Typical
>normal devs want their games on as many systems as possible
Where's Monster Hunter 4 on PC then?

>>389958513
Says the retards who are saying that games are failures if they don't move X amount of units while not taking into account the cost of making them. Games can be successful without selling a million copies or being on PC, not to say being on PC wouldn't help but acting like it's a make or break deal is retarded

>>389958389
Rune Factory 4 sold more than Yakuza 0, which probably had a 10th of it's budget

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I want to play this, but I only have a VitaTV and a PC

what do?

>>389958687
Emulate the PS3 version

>worse controller than the Xbox One
>worse OS
>worse online
>worse "free" games
>No BC
>worse download speeds
>now worse graphics too

The PS4 is inferior to the Xbox One in literally every single way.

>>389958626
most devs want to sell as much as possible which porting to PC helps, I dunno why this is difficult for you to understand

>>389958725
is there an easy to follow tutorial for that? it seems you need some PS3 system files and other PC software for the emu to work.

>>389957293
And of course, the last truly great Tales game, Tales of Vesperia

>>389958810
>most devs want to sell as much as possible which porting to PC helps
Well where's RF4 on PC?
Where's the 3DS Atlus games on PC?
Why isnt there a Phoenix Wright collection on PC already?
Why arent most 3rd party games on the 3DS on PC already?

>>389958810
Because it isn't necessary to make money. You're acting as if a game not being on PC or not selling as much as whatever shit EA pumps out is a death sentence when different games have different budgets.

Yeah, you will have more PC ports because PC gaming isn't as big in Japan and it's huge in the states. But not being on PC doesn't doom a game to failure, which i don't know why this is difficult for you to understand

>>389943741
I get paid a buck for every PS4 thread I post in and defend/ support the PS4. Fuck ya'll I'm off the clock now.

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>>389958805
>>worse controller than the Xbox One
no, asymmetrical a shit
>>worse OS
no, it' literally perfect
>>worse online
no, but consoles fighting over online is like who's the tallest midget
>>worse "free" games
no, also LiD
>>No BC
sucks for your RROD my PS3 works
>>worse download speeds
don'y care
>>now worse graphics too
no, the PS4 across the board has the best power to price ratio.

The PS4 is literally the cheapest and most powerful way to play the best games around in the best possible way

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I still have my SNES, Sega, PS1,PS2,,PS3, Wii, Gameboy, Gameboy Advanced, DS, 3DS GameCube and about 1000 games I haven't got to yet. I'm done gentleman. PS4, Xbox and Switch looks like the 1st generation I wont be getting in to. And I'm relieved that the industry is shit now. It will only get worse from here. Travel well my friends.

>>389958943
>but muh 3DS
sad!

those games have two screens and are not compatible to PC gaming, stop being autistic

>>389959253
Square ported the DS version of FF3 to PC.

>>389943741
Only main retarded things they did with the console are:

>paid online
>restricted bluetooth headphones to PS4 Headsets

>>389945657
Same, it's sad that people keep paying for the privilege to play their own console on their own internet connection.

>>389959253
>those games have two screens and are not compatible to PC gaming,
Then why is 999, VLR and such on PC then?
Again why arent 3DS devs porting their games to PC if they want to make the most money possible?

What makes it's worse than the previous consoles? If one cannot compare it to the current generation without posts like these: >>389944078

Of the 4 home Playstation consoles, the PS4 has most of the games available from the other consoles, games of its own, and all the multiplatform games. It also has the best graphical capabilities, software suspention, spotify integration. I don't understand how one could've made this thread in seriousness.
Are you referring to the console's exclusives compared to previous generations? Because again, most of the PS3's exclusives have been remastered for the PS4, making them BETTER on PS4.

>>389944659
>Competition is worse
Literally the ONLY thing Sony has on MS this gen is Bloodborne and Persona 5. There are no other PS exclusives worth a shit, and the PS4 UI manages to be a huge step down from XBM which I didn't even think was possible.

Also: why do we have a dedicated share button for videos if all it does is save a copy and I can't even message it to my friends? Xbox doesn't even have a fucking button and does all of the DVR stuff better

>>389959729
Nig nog with a 3-inch teeth

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>>389959323
>>389959514
>no response to either of these posts yet
looks like the pcfag ran out of goalsposts to mov

>>389960040
>>389959323
you know most of them are published by Nintendo right? that's why they can't be ported

I have a PS4, I play video games on it. It's alright.

>>389959801
Hi marketer

>>389960219
>you know most of them are published by Nintendo right?
>Phoenix Wright games on 3DS are publised by Capcom
>MH4 published by Capcom
>Etrian Odyssey 4 and SMT4 are publised by Atlus
Again where's the PC ports?

>>389958687
buy Persona 4 Golden instead.

>>389960620
>Phoenix Wright
they were ported to phones, because they're phone tier games, you idiot

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>>389960726
instead? I'm about to play the shit out of that for the 3rd time.

But I want to play P5 as well. Can't figure out the ps3 emu yet. Not even sure if it runs P5 well yet.

>>389960890
And yet there's no reason to not port to PC as well

>>389961014
porting a fucking 3DS game to PC is way too much fucking work. if you knew anything about game engines you'd understand. it'd be almost as much work as making a new game. also no one wants to do that kind of shitty work.

>>389961105
>porting a fucking 3DS game to PC is way too much fucking work.
And yet they ported VLR and such to PC, same with Code of Princess a game almost no one wanted, again where's the PC ports?

it's alright. it has some good games to play. you've just gotten older so video games aren't doing it for you like they used to. you need to play things in the highest fidelity to have fun now-a-days as opposed to when you were a kid and could enjoy anything. after you experience so many games it's hard for new shit to wow you. it makes sense, as an adult, to just play games on PC.

It's better than the PS3 and the current competition

PS2 and 1 are on another plane of existence. Unable to compare

>>389958805
Except when it comes to games and playerbase
C'mon if all your friends have a PS4 which one are you more likely to buy. I really liked my 360 but I made the jump this generation.
I'm jealous of the backwards compatiblitiy, and think that should become an industry standard.
However, I think the PS4 controller is better. If it was 360 vs. PS3 then xbox would win, but the PS4 controller is fucking perfect. The d-pad feels so good, and the screenshot button is a really cool feature. Also the track pad is really nice when playing games on your computer, since you can control the mouse with it.

>>389953558
>animeposter doesn't understand how generations work
Typical.

>>389946947
PS3 is still getting games. That means it's a current generation console, right?

>>389961381
>It's better than the PS3 and the current competition

The PS3 is still great in some ways; kingdom hearts collections (for cheap) for example, MGS4 and Asura's Wrath.

>>389962018
the kh collection is cheaper on PS4, no? it also has all of the KH games on it and they run 60fps I believe. good point on the other games as well as the PS2 titles it has more of them (though they don't all run that well)

I think all of the PlayStation systems are pretty good by the end of their life. PS2 was definitely the strongest but they all have some good games on them when it's said and done.

>>389950031
But I finished that on my PS3.

>>389943741
PS3 was worse. Worthless machine apart from being a bluray player

>>389961670
>namefag thinks anyone cares about his opinions either
Typical

>>389963374
As opposed to the general belief, it actually had proper games in it, unlike the 4.

>>389963476
there are proper games on the PS4 but you won't say that until the ps5 comes out

>>389961670
>Namefag judging other posters
pls, leave.

>>389963548
Of course I won't because it's been 4 fucking years and only now it's starting to get a handful of games. It's pathetic, really.

dragon quest 11 is the best dragon quest by far so ps4 is the best playstation

>>389963861
You can play that game on the Switch and even on a fucking 3DS. Your console is fucking pointless.

>>389963956
you can't.

and the 3ds version is not even the same game.

>>389963752
yeah. it has given me many hours of gameplay and now many more with more games coming out

It's better than the PS3 at least. But yeah, it still sucks. The popularity factor is 100% based on marketing, absolutely zero fucks given about the video games themselves.

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>>389943741
>t. pic related

>>389943741
Which other console actually has anything worth playing on it?

>>389943741
what is buyers remorse

>>389960902
just buy a PS3 or PS4 then.

>>389945405
Nigger, the PS3 was even worse. It only had dudebro movies (one of them being an actual fucking movie), wagglan near the end to compete with the Wii and the Kinect, and a drought of japanese vidya outside some 5/10 moeshit and Demon's Souls.

This gen being shit does not automatically make the last gen any better, 7th gen was a mistake.

I just wish Sony didn't sit on their lead. E3 this year was close to Nintendo 2015 levels of awful.

>>389965004
>7th gen was a mistake
But the 360 is actually one of the best consoles of all time and could be in a top 5 if you enjoyed Gears and Halo 3 online
Sure, the Kinect killed the 360, but its first years were outstanding

>>389943741
It's a good console for $250. The price/performance ratio is great since you're basically getting something close to an FX-6300, 8GB RAM, and a 7850 2gb in a console package with a controller, 500gb HDD, and cables. The only problem is that many of the weeb exclusives are just PS3 games at proper 1080p with last gen lighting, textures, effects, etc.

>>389943741
Because it has games.

>>389966229
>2 games
>multiplayer

sure kiddo

>>389943741
The library has been really disappointing so far. Have Bloodborne, Persona 5, and Kingdom Hearts 1.5 + 2.5/2.8. Going to buy KH3 next year (assuming it doesn't get delayed). There's nothing else really that I'm interested in. God of War and Spider-Man both look terrible, not interested in TLOU2, etc.

It feels like the generation has barely even started but people are already fucking talking about the PS5. Like really? If they seriously announce it within the next couple years I hope it flops, there's no way the average PS4 owner could be satisfied with this library.

>>389967596
I agree with you but the same can be applied for all video games in general. Across all the platforms there really haven't been that many gems or fresh new ideas that are good. The PC only wins in comparison because it has decades of titles, but just looking at 2016 - 2017 releases there have been a handful of great games among piles of mediocre and trash games. Gen 6 had so many defining games, there are so many good and great PS2 era games, Gen 7 didn't have the numbers but still had enough new shit going on, and now this gen is just overall disappointing hence people getting hyped for remakes of remakes.

I have one. What is wrong with it?

>>389943741
I don't get paid to talk about why I prefer PS4 on the internet. I'll just say that I like it because it has the games I like.

>>389948256
That helps playstation how?