>People falling for the artificial scarcity meme Why are

>wasting your life falseflagging and shitposting on an image board 24/7

thank god I will never be that miserable

>>389871509

Nintendo Defense Force right on cue at the first reply. Outstanding, you fags are getting faster.

>woah look at these 6 total switches, the shortage is clearly a myth

>>389872223

There were 4 Xbox Ones and 5 PS4 on their respective shelves.

What's your point?

>>389872223
There was a shortage. There isn't anymore, you can find a Switch just about anywhere unless you live in Japan. But you wouldn't know anything about that since you pre-ordered yours on January 12th

still impossible to get one in japan though. last month i was in tokyo and they were still pulling those lottery stunts over the few units they got in

>>389871269
Shortage is only in Japan now. Splatoon bundle is pretty much only for the colors, it doesn't even include a physical game

>>389872223

How many do you expect the store to have? 30?

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>mfw the Switch has already sold 7 million

>>389872948
with all the hardware issues i am actually surprised its selling so well. me personally i am waiting for a revised model

>>389873039
I currently have zero hardware issues and bought on launch day

>>389872948
It hasn't even broken 6, and demand has fallen through the floor
Welcome to the next Gamecube

>>389873039

Second. I am also waiting for a damn bundle that is reasonably priced.

Normies finally realize their shitty tablet doesn't run Netflix or Youtube?

Good riddance.

>>389873184
it's consistently selling 200-300k each weak, you're wrong

>>389873451

>each weak

Your grammar is weak.

>>389873530
who cares, enjoy the Switch selling 50 million

>>389871269
>>389871712
Timestamp on that image please Samefag

>>389872519
>>389872915
well they're all OOS around here

>>389873451
It broke 200k globally a single week in July, and that was when they released more units than usual in Japan.

>>389873816
The just-released Splatoon 2 bundle is there with only one unit left, so it must be pretty recent.

>>389873816

I'm not gonna go back to Walmart just for the sake of timestamping a pic.

Do a reverse search instead and you won't find the pic anywhere.

Also, some nintendo drone already bought the splatoon bundle by the time I took the picture. You could tell the alpha was the girl since she wanted the switch because "it has color controllers xD" and the beta male just shed the cash.

Go into any retail store right now and you will see a handfull of switches laying around. No one is buying them anymore. its the Wii U all over again, a great launch, and then a skydive in sales once the people who buy every Nintendo console have theirs.

>>389873921
Give me your zip code, I will find no less than 20 near you

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>>389871269
I miss when bundles were an actual amazing deal. This was the same cost as a stand alone unit.

>>389874254
too bad the genisis was a piece of shit for white trash and autists

>>389874181
>Give me your zip code
I ain't falling for that again

>>389874395
Because you know you're wrong

>>389874395

What the fuck is someone going to do with your damn zip code? Are you paranoid?

>>389874424
and you're in denial

>>389874118
>but I can't, someone bought it

So you confess to lying, thank you

>>389871269
>case+screen protector $40
>game $60 from eshop
>$20 savings
I mean, if it's going to be a Splatoon machine anyway, may as well go digital straight to internal memory so you don't need to worry about any pesky carts, your sprats are always with you. Screen protector is mandatory with the plastic shit it comes with, too, though case is situational.

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>>389874362
Jesus Christ console war faggots are the worst. Pictured: also the same price as a stand alone unit.

>>389874539
send the SWAT to my home again

>>389874650
Thousands of people can live in the same zip code. Give a zip code NEAR you then
You just know there's no shortage and you're lying about there not being any stock

>>389874783
ok I'll be honest, I don't live in the US.

>>389875219
Then you probably live somewhere where Nintendo has no official stock, like Brazil
I really doubt you live in Japan

I've seen Switches 3 different times I've been to my Walmart. 8 on launch with no one around, and 1 and 2 just over a month.

http://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/nintendo-stock-price-switch-sales-are-much-stronger-than-the-ps4-2017-9-1002354789

Oh no....

>>389875890
>in Nintendo's home country of Japan.
Fake news, consoles are dead in Japan. PS4 barely outsold the Wii U

>>389876069
actually the Switch is so successful in Japan it is making the console industry grow again, it's come back to life

>>389873039
The hardware issues were a scare for the most part. It's a perfectly functional machine.

>>389873039
Hardware issues? The shit joy-cons wireless connectivity is the only thing I can think of.

>>389876346
It hasn't even broken 2 million. The 3DS, Nintendo's worst selling handheld, is at 23.5 million in Japan and the Switch is trending right along with it

Mobile has basically replaced all forms of gaming in Japan and even handhelds are dying. Switch is a swan song of a company that's become obsolete

>>389876069
the PS4 is doing fine now. Japanese devs literally regained faith in it around the time FF15 came out.

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>>389874118
>this guy is a beta because he has a woman and money to spare on a gift for said woman

Yet here you are, taking pictures of things that you are not interested in buying just to pick fights with strangers from the safety of your home.

You are so alpha omg anon how so you do it

>>389876950
the 3DS is the fourth best selling video game console in Japan EVER, and it's outsold the gameboy advanced

the Nintendo 64 and Gamecube sold 5 and 4 million each in Japan respectively, the Switch will outsell both of them

Sorry but your narrative about muh mobile gaming is western propaganda that got stale back in 2011

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>>389874596
>case and screen protector (not even tempered glass, just an adhesive strip of plastic) are worth $40


Point and laugh, everyone. Does your toilet paper also cost $30 for 6 rolls?

>>389877074
>the PS4 is doing fine now
It's really not. The only Japanese devs that are "doing fine" are the ones that have series that are successful in the West, like FF and RE. Smaller and more obscure devs have basically gone mobile

>>389877734
>the 3DS is the fourth best selling video game console in Japan EVER, and it's outsold the gameboy advanced
third best selling actually

>>389877885
well a lot of Japanese devs are just porting to PC because the PS4 is a dudebro machine, it has 60 million units sold but almost ever Japanese game bombs and can't break 1 million

>>389877734
>Sorry but your narrative about muh mobile gaming is western propaganda that got stale back in 2011
Man, you are so naive. Japan is the world's biggest mobile gaming market. This has nothing to do with the west. It applies only to Japan. Console gaming is thriving elsewhere and there's really no threat from mobile. But in Japan, just about everyone has abandoned consoles (including handhelds) in favor of phone gaming. Console marketshare shrinks every year there with no exception, and the Switch isn't bringing it back to life

I remember when I got my Xbox from Sam's Club. The box came in a big fucking blister pack. The system itself came with JSRF/Sega GT. The Sam's Club bundle came with Blinx, an extra controller and DVD attachment. I don't think they do bundles anymore, actually they got rid of all their movie and TV DVD selections at mine

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>>389871269
Neokikeshitendo's Shitbitch is available 24/7 on any European Amazon for a sensible price.
Only Ninendownie Nintendicksuckers from MURRIKAH are crying crocodile tears that they can't get their permavirgin manchild Fisher Price lego tablet.

>>389878090
the console marketshare has increased this year in Japan (and yes the Switch is mostly responsible)

you're old news

>>389878230
>the console marketshare has increased this year in Japan (and yes the Switch is mostly responsible)
People Switching from 3DS to Switch is hardly an expanded marketshare, especially when you consider it's less than 10% so far.

Get back to me when the Switch breaks 20 million. Pro tip: it won't happen

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>>389878067
Meanwhile, uncharted sold insanely well

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>>389878175
>this entire post

How could any adult be this upset over toys?

>>389878321
It's Sony who have been buttfucked by mobile gaming in Japan, Nintendo have continued to sell well, the Switch will outsell the Wii U, Gamecube and N64 there easily

>>389878538
For some reason there are rabid autists that hate Nintendo on /v/. These people are barneyfag levels of autistic as they're in literally (I assume at least) Nintendo thread with lines like
>Nintendickgobbler
>Neokikeshitedo
>shitch
etc. They're mentally unstable and need to be put into an asylum.

>>389877742
They're not worth that much, obviously, but that's what it's sold for normally. And it's a pretty nice case (which I wouldn't buy on myself for that money, but for 20- easily). Screen protector should've been included in the base Switch bundle at least as a temporary measure before your tempered one arrives from china.

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>>389871269
>Why are Nintendo fans so damn gullible?
They are not. They know exactly that Nintendo does artificial scarcity but they support this anti-consumer behaviour and take this occorence as a chance to indulge themselves in their autism like they did with amiiboos and NES classics.

Pic related its the nintendofanbase.

>>389879197
I figure it's sonybros as their console isn't powerful at all compared to PC so they don't go after them, the Vita is under performing so they don't go after the 3DS, the Xbone bros know their console is pretty shit and just take the abuse.

You never see shit like PC vs Xbone or Swtich vs Xbone etc because it's always Sony vs Nintendo with Sonybro always starting it.

>>389878842
>the Switch will outsell the Wii U, Gamecube and N64 there easily
That is a ridiculously low bar

>>389878410
Uncharted was a movie split into 4 parts.

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>>389879420
>anti-consumer behaviour

>>389879805
its the majority of nintendo's last 20 years in the console industry

>>389879805
not really they were considered successful in Japan

>>389873039
I just want to wait and see if Nintendo is actually gonna support this console or will drop it in 2 years. The sales have not been encouraging so far. The ps4 is still dominating.

>>389872948
Switch only sell because Wii U's dead and 3ds will follow soon. They've literally put all their eggs in one basket like Sony did.

>>389880594
the 3DS is still selling great so you're wrong sweetie

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real nigga talk: I think it's important for the Switch to sell well in order for the xbox to slip into third place and ultimately die. also it would be good if the japanese industry to see the PS4 + Switch as a strong combo to make more games for. Still, I would absolutely love for it to fail just so I see their utterly demented fanbase go full sperg mode. It would be glorious,.

>>389880807
it will not beat the psp, last gen's loser

>>389881248
It would be better for the entire industry if Nintendo went 3rd party. It would give more reasons for people to buy a console because there's more/great variety of games to play. Right now everything is so segmented that you can't help but feel like you're missing out by buying only one particular machine, so the only way you can avoid that is by buying all of them. That's just too much for your average person

Personally the idea of MS vs Sony in the hardware sector is very unappealing to me, but at least they are competing in terms of hardware, which is good for consumers. Nintendo is not competing in terms of hardware, which is why the Switch is very overpriced for its level of technology. Essentially, Nintendo being a hardware maker is bad for consumers. We could go into how it's bad for developers but that should be obvious

>>389881319
PSP had a lifetime of 10 years and sold 82 million

3DS has been out for 6 years and sold 65 million, assume Nintendo supports it until 2021 it will beat the PSP, sorry

>>389874620
>1 Controller for a 2P game.
Why would they do this?

>>389881674
Nintendo is very much competing in hardware, it has less power but offers something different to it's competitors in portability

also competing in software is no worse for consumers than competing in hardware, you're an arbitrary retard and have no idea what you're talking about

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>Even the most diehard shiteating Nutendofag and the company themselves admit that the scarcity is due to apple and not intense demand
>Lol it's all a big conspiracy to make Nintendo look good

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>>389881674
>Right now everything is so segmented

no it's not. Buy a PS4 and prepare for greatness.

>>389879197

>You need to put people that hate your console in an asylum

Are all consolefags this mad when someone doesn't like what you like?

Calm down your autism, faggot. Just because someone hates Nintendo doesn't make it the end of the world. Jeesh.

>taking pictures in stores just to shitpost
Wew some people have lots of free time. Remind me again, when's the PS4 getting its next exclusive?

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>>389879689
>Swtich vs Xbone
Nintendie pls. You will always be in the special olympics.

>>389882148
>Half are available on other consoles and PC
>Of the 3 remaining Last Guardian received unfavorable reviews, Horizon paled in comparison to BOTW, and Nioh was pretty good
fucking kek, power to the players.

>>389882148
>Persona 5
yeah it's good
>The Last Guardian
it has a beautiful atmosphere and story but the gameplay is really frustrating, I doubt I will ever replay it
>Horizon Zero Dawn
mediocre as hell, Uncharted 4 is better
>FFXV
it's also on Xbox and not very good desu, it's kind of sad watching Square Enix try to appeal to Western gamers
>Nioh
yeah it's fun
>Nier
it's on PC but okay
as someone who has owned every Playstation, 4 is by far the worst and there is little great about it, if you genuinely think it's that great you're either deluding yourself or it's your first Playstation

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>>389881737
You're a fool if you think every year is equal. We're *way* past market saturation on the 3DS. It will not beat the GBA and it will not beat the PSP, even if you give it another 3 years (which Nintendo won't, it would jeopardize the Switch)

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>>389881737
>assume Nintendo supports it until 2021
>240p handheld on the market until 2021
>4 years into the Switches life
I liked my 3DS but can we fucking not

>>389882148
>4 exclusives
>2 are trash
>1 emulatable through RPCS3


>greatness

Nope. And frankly I hate my PS4, it was a good for what I needed it for, but the system itself is trash. The software is shit, the web browser is shit, the catalogue is mediocre, the hardware is shit and it's a noisy fucking cunt. And then they have the gall to push the PS4Pro after all that.

>>389881674
Nintendo should just release a steam-like interface. There's no point of using hardware drm when even your latest games gets cracked with homebrew and emulation.

The "Artificial Scarcity" thing isn't a thing. They've been saying more and more Switches are available and they want to make even more available for the Holiday.

Also, I'm not sure what the issue is with a system being AVAILABLE to purchase.

>>389882795
As long as it continues to sell Nintendo won't discontinue it
>>389882615
The 3DS sold more in 2016 than it did in 2015, you're just letting your butthurt cloud the actual numbers, it will beat the GBA and PSP

>>389871269
Why is one $80 more than the other? Splatoon 2 is not worth $80.

>>389883294
Sonynyggers are still in the denial stage about the Switch being successful

>>389881674
Your view of hardware is too limited. It's not only measured in power. Nintendo's actually using newer technology, but they're working in a different direction from Sony and Microsoft. It's not just cheap stuff. Nintendo's selling Switches at just a little over how much they cost to make.

There's worth in there being a hardware maker not playing in the power war and offering an alternative product. The industry would be stagnant if everyone was doing the same thing.

I love that they are

I'm looking forward to making $150 profit on my SNES minis

>>389883330
>The 3DS sold more in 2016 than it did in 2015
Isolated incident due to SuMo and having no competition from the Switch. It's not going to happen again.

>>389882524
>>389882556
>>389882909

3 sperglords triggered by my patrician taste. best part is, I'm not even shitposting, I fucking loved every moment of those games and I absolutely want my fellow anons to experience said games.

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>>389883478
That could be the only possible people making these stupid fucking threads.

Gamestop keeps making press announcements constantly that even though Switches are in stock, they sell out in a day or two.

>>389883689
But half of your games aren't even making a case for the PS4 because they are available on things that arent that system.

Your tastes are all basic white girl tier.

>>389883478
>Switch being successful
not tanking means jack shit. the xbx oone has been selling better than the 360 given the same time frame and it's doing shit.

>>389883636
the 3DS is still gonna outsell the PSP unless Nintendo releases a successor before 2021, screencap this post for future reference

>>389883587
Only the autistic care about portables outside of Japan. It makes perfect sense in Japan, considering 25% of the country commutes for 1+ hours every day by train. But America is a country where most people drive. I can't play my Switch while driving. And when I get to where I'm going, it's because I had something to do there. I didn't just drive somewhere to play video games away from home. When I get back home, I want to play video games on my big screen TV, not a little 6" handheld.

Handhelds have been big among children in the past but now that every child has a smart phone, it's seen as dated and uncool. Again, only the sperglords want this thing, which explains why the shortage is over now. There's only so many of them.

I think the Switch will do fairly well in Japan actually, but that's because its the only place portables make sense. For those few moments every year where I wish I had something to kill time with, my phone works just as well, and the best part is I was already carrying it.

Nintendo has brought NOTHING new to the table with the Switch. It's just another fucking handheld, and the industry is stagnant as ever. We need innovation in gaming, not gaming hardware, which is ironically Nintendo's strong suit. They should focus on it.

>>389883886
>not tanking means jack shit. the xbx oone has been selling better than the 360 given the same time frame and it's doing shit.

Lmfao. Not tanking means nothing??? What the fuck? Then what is a measure of success?

>>389883915
>unless Nintendo releases a successor before 2021
Lol what? What is the Switch? God you're so naive

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Wait, are these things actually rare? My local shop had a bunch of them the other day.

>>389883636
The 3DS sold more in Q1 (April to June) in 2017, right after the Switch's launch, than in 2016.

>>389881737
I know the 3DS is not dying yet, but mainline Pokemon moving on seems like a pretty clear indicator that it's nearing the end of its days.

>>389883958
>Handhelds have been big among children in the past but now that every child has a smart phone, it's seen as dated and uncool. Again, only the sperglords want this thing, which explains why the shortage is over now. There's only so many of them.

Why does /v/ keep saying this? Has no one on /v/ EVER been on a bus or an airplane? DS are very common in these locations even in America. I haven't been sat on an airplane in the last 10 years without seeing someone with a DS or Gameboy Advance.

>>389874141
>its the Wii U all over again, a great launch

If it had a great launch then no it's not anything like the Wii U.

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>replying to a pokebarneyfag thread

>>389874141
>it's the wii u all over again
It's already sold close to 7 or 8 million consoles in 6 months. Just wait for the fiscal announcement at the end of Sept.

>>389884019
>Then what is a measure of success?

succeeding.

>>389884106
>without seeing someone with a DS or Gameboy Advance.
Is it not 2017? Did I time travel while I slept

>>389884302
And it's had a successful launch. Nintendo brand is way up. This isn't counting the awesome 3DS/2DS sales and the now insane sales of the SNES mini.

Once Mario Odyssey is out and Xenoblade is out, plus more games in the future like Pokemon for Switch, it's over. Switch will sell boatloads of units. Pokemon alone will sell ~10 million Switches.

>>389884096
we don't really know the long term plans for Pokemon

they could release a HD version for the Switch and a downgraded version for 3DS like with Smash bros
>>389884048
you're an idiot m8, you don't have a clue what you're talking about

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>>389884391
>Pokemon alone will sell ~10 million Switches.

REEEEEEEEEEEEE
REEEEEEEEEEEEE NO!!! NOOOOO!!!! IT WON'T!!!! IT'S DEAD!! NO ONE'S BUYING IT!!!

>>389884397
>you're an idiot m8, you don't have a clue what you're talking about
You really think the 3DS will get its own successor and that the Switch isn't it?

I have nothing to say about this aside from every single piece of evidence suggesting otherwise, the greatest of which is that Nintendo unified their development branches under a single roof such that they only focus on 1 hardware

>>389884426
I like how Sonynyggers have got to that desperate point where they're now going back and pretending the Wii U was sold out

>>389884391
>And it's had a successful launch.

so did the xbox with some creative number presentation. in the real world it's doing slow Thursday PS4 numbers.

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>>389884596
I have never owned a Sony hardware

>>389884426
Nintendo has a built in guaranteed handheld sale rate. It will easily sell 20 million units or more on a handheld basis alone, especially once Pokemon is out. That fanbase is rabid for releases. The Pokemon games usually sell 14-20 million copies or more.

As a standalone, home console, it will also sell, and as it continues to sell, more third parties will release more and more games, and more first party titles will bolster it's already desirable lineup. It will continue to be seen as a portable/must have alternative to PC and PS4.

>>389884575
>You really think the 3DS will get its own successor
yep, I think it will eventually, but this will be a lot further in the Switchs lifetime

>>389884760
Yeah, it'll be called the Switch Mini

I'm done, you can believe whatever fantasies you want, like the 3DS beating the GBA/PSP when it's obvious it's all but dead and it has no more big games left aside outsourced remakes

The fact that we have these threads every few hours and they consistently reach bump limit speaks volumes about the mods here. And delusional sony niggers will still insist on calling this place Nintengaf.

>>389872519
> you can find a Switch just about anywhere
Finding it shouldnt require any real effort esp 6 months after release.
Until you can leave your home, go to the nearest department store/gamestop and pick one up then it still has supply issues. Youd also get weeks where you cant find it around most major cities in the US.
Clearly Nintendo misjudged the demand and were playing it safe after the Wii U. Finding a Switch in Xmas would be impossible, so if you want one pick one now and before Mario comes out.

>>389881674
Didn't work out great for Sega. People already complain about dead IPs now, can you imagine what a third party Nintendo's output would be like?

>>389884702
>guaranteed handheld sale rate.
handhelds are dying.

>>389884975
>if you want one pick one now and before Mario comes out.
>b-b-buy p-ls
>i-it's so r-rare
Hello marketer

>>389884868
the PSP had no notable games after 2010 and kept selling, stay butthurt in the face of facts

>>389885035
>Handhelds are dying
A fucking made up myth that anyone who realizes phones suck shit understands.

Almost no one is giving up handheld gaming consoles for tablets or phones. They're buying multiple electronic devices.

Fuck off.

>>389871509

Being a shitposter is suffering. Ask quentin. He's a wreck. What'shisface, the nigger with the baby dick. He says it's an addiction for him. They get addicted to the attention. That's why most are former tripfags and namefags. After a while people started filtering them. So they took away the trips and names and just started shitposting anonymously. They figured out that this is the most effecitve way to get (you)s.

>>389884996
>People already complain about dead IPs now, can you imagine what a third party Nintendo's output would be like?
Yeah, see, the thing is I don't see it getting any worse. Nintendo is already a box that shits Mario, Zelda and Pokemon. It wouldn't be any different because it's not like they'd kill those

>B-b-but Sega
Sega was facing bankruptcy. Nintendo has the opportunity to transition gracefully and they'll be better off the sooner they do it. I'd argue the Switch is already an exit strategy. They can easily transition to selling Joy-cons that work with any bluetooth enabled smart phone. Combined with their mobile, amusement park and film push, it's clear they're diversifying their portfolio already. They KNOW they can't make hardware forever. Just like I know.

>>389885035
looking at the 3DS this is hard to believe

the type of people who play phone games were never the type to buy a handheld console in the first place (except a DS for brain training)

Handhelds have always been for dedicated gamers which there is still a market for, phone games are for casuals looking to pass the time

>>389885181
>They're buying multiple electronic devices.

sure bro, that rational is not retarded at all. no one will stop buying nontendo crap for something better.
xbots are so grounded in reality in comparison to delusional nintenodfags.

>>389884952
>niggers

go to sleep felix

>>389884054
It's largely a location thing. Denser areas of the US and then all of Japan consistently sell through all stock. Canada, Australia, and probably New Zealand have much higher prices and so don't sell as quickly. Europe is still Sonyland, though I hear it still sells well enough. I don't know what it's like in Mexico and South America. But in places in the US where there's less people around but still enough to justify an electronic gaming store or section somewhere in the area, the Switches tend to stick around for a bit.

It's also a matter of when restocks happen. My local Target was consistently selling them out, but when I went there to pick up mine they still had a good number. That were then sold out soon enough. Don't know what it's like now, though.

>>389873184

>the next gamecube

It sells around 100 to 150k weekly. If anything it's the next SNES. At the current rate it's going, Switch is set to surpass Gamecube well before it gets discontinued.

anyone who wants a switch has one. the only people having trouble getting one are the people who would only order it online and have it delivered. anyone who can drive themselves and pay for things with their income from non wagecuck positions doesn't need to make an excuse for not having one.

if someone doesn't have a switch the reason isn't scarcity.

>>389885414
>Sega was facing bankruptcy. Nintendo has the opportunity to transition gracefully and they'll be better off the sooner they do it. I'd argue the Switch is already an exit strategy.

L M F A O

Nintendo, if it goes third party, will make 5 mario games a year, and they'll all be Super Mario Run quality, and then they'll turn into the shit Sega has turned into.

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>>389885498
>Handhelds have always been for dedicated gamers which there is still a market for

autism is reaching critical levels.

>>389885414
they're creating an amusement park and films for advertising purposes, it's to make them a huge franchise like Disney and Marvel, not because are going to stop making hardware you drooling idiot

>>389885746
I think the Switch will do better than the N64 and Gamecube, im guessing it will reach around 60 million if Nintendo continues supporting it and releases revisions like they did with the 3ds.
Can it reach Wii levels? I doubt it but anything is possible.

>>389885746
Considering it's the combination of their handheld and console lineups, it needs to beat the 3DS+Wii U sales in order to not be the worst selling Nintendo platform ever. At the moment that's just over 80 million units.

If it sold as many as the SNES, that would be utterly abysmal. Worse than the Xbone actually

>>389885414
>Yeah, see, the thing is I don't see it getting any worse. Nintendo is already a box that shits Mario, Zelda and Pokemon. It wouldn't be any different because it's not like they'd kill those
But that's bullshit. Just off the top of my head what about the two Metroid games or Xenoblade? There's sure to be another Pikmin soon too. Those are solid series that would be dead as a doornail under a third party Nintendo.

>>389886021
I think Nintendo will be happy with 3ds level sales, they can compensate for the Wii U with mobile and other revenue (eg online, amusement parks etc.)

>>389886002
depends how long the lifetime is, the Wii had 5 years, if they support the Switch for longer and keep making games for it I think it could come dangerously close to the Wii

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>>389871269
>Working in store.
>Been sold out of Switches for a while.
>Get a case of ten in after a long time. >Immediately put them out on display because they'll sell faster.
>Some fat guy comes up within ten minutes, takes a picture and leaves.

It was you, wasn't it anon?

>>389885414

It's more like a strategy to discontinue their console line and just stick to handheld. Which is smart. Throwing that market share away would be stupid. This is probably the most graceful way to exit.

And diversifying their portfolio is just a sign that their business is growing. Nintendo has done so much more than video games before.

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>>389881940
Wasn't Super Mario World 2P mode just taking turns on a single pad?

>>389885978
But they're a company that is known for their IPs, not their hardware. Their amusment part doesn't feature the NES, SNES, Gameboy. It features Mario and Zelda.

You think Disney is a multi-billion dollar conglomerate because they only showed Disney movies in Disney theaters?

It might take 30 years but smart devices will replace everything. The need for a "dedicated gaming machine" will be as present as the need for a pager. Do you even know what a pager is? Probably not. And kids born in the 2020s won't remember what gaming handhelds and consoles were either.

Nintendo faces obsolescence in the hardware sector. That's just an eventuality. I don't know when it'll happen, just that it WILL happen

>>389886129

This. After the disaster of Wii U, 40 million is probably a good compromise for them.

>>389886187
Reminds me of the obese fag who got exposed on launch.

>>389871269
memes memeing for the meme meme

>when the switch is so successful you can't even use >VGChartz to shitpost anymore

>>389886390

Why is it always a fat guy?

>>389886318
But it hasn't happened yet and won't happen for another 20 years. Until smartphones can play games as well as whatever current gen consoles can and resolve battery issues, Nintendo platforms won't be replaced.

>>389886107
>two metroid games
Outsourcing a 25 year old remake to a B-grade studio after not showing any love to a series for over a decade is all but a death sentence for that series. They don't care enough to make the game themselves, and they don't care enough to even make a new game. They've already threatened to can it once it flops too. I'm sure they'll do the same to the Prime series

>>389886318
>But they're a company that is known for their IPs, not their hardware.
what the fuck are you talking about? My 60 year old dad knows Nintendo for the Gameboy and Wii

Your posts are absolute nonsense m8, just moronic speculation of trying to fit your narrative when there is very little evidence to support it

>>389886021
>Considering it's the combination of their handheld and console lineups, it needs to beat the 3DS+Wii U sales
It doesn't necessarily need to do that to be a success for Nintendo. Software sales are important too and Nintendo won't be stretching themselves thin over two separate platforms.

>>389878538
That was clearly posted by a child larping as an "grownup".

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>>389884702
newsflash: mentally ill pokeytards can play catching muh pokeymanz on their mobile phones now.
You would have been 100% right 20 years ago. Also Pokeydiddlershit is nowhere near as popular as it used to be.

>>389886318

Well until that time comes, they'll likely continue to make hardware. So long as there's money in it.

>>389878410
cool, you getting something out of this besides dopamine, right?

>>389886318
>It might take 30 years but smart devices will replace everything.
Pure speculation, but even if it does, Nintendo will make their own smart device

You really don't know them as a company and how adaptable they can be, they've been around for a long time and won't be walking away

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>>389886496
Fatties gonna fat. That's just the type of people console wars attracts.

>>389886750
Pretty much. And as smartphones move towards hardware integration on top of a base platform with touch controls, Nintendo could, as you explained, make their own platform, or even create special controls and integration for whatever the main smart platform is.

>>389886545

So are we just going to ignore the fact that Nintendo creating a new in-house studio just to make MP4? I mean, even after Fed Force bombed, they're still making more. Seems like they don't eant it ro die

>>389886827
>one store with consoles is evidence

nah bruh

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>>389872948
>mfw mario will drive that number to 10mill before the year is over

>>389886538
>Until smartphones can play games as well as whatever current gen consoles can and resolve battery issues, Nintendo platforms won't be replaced.
But Nintendo isn't making consoles anymore, they're just making handhelds now. That's what the Switch is. It won't be long until the difference between a Switch 2, 3, 4 or whatever and a current gen Samsung phone is unnoticeable by the standard consumer. And they'll just pick the phone because it does more, it actually works as a phone, does a shitload of other tasks, and has an enormous library of games. Plus you carry it around anyway

If I were Nintendo and I was dead serious about staying in hardware, I would have made the Switch a phone. But that just shows that they aren't serious about staying in hardware. And it's why everything about the Switch is overpriced. They know the end is coming. Switch is a short-term strategy meant to make profit now, not to keep the company alive in the business for decades to come

Nintendo's future is as a software maker. I think they have a great future but it would be better if they gave up on the hardware game now

>>389886773
They could buy both consoles and all the games if they didn't spend it all on cheeseburgers

>>389882491
20 dollars a year for online is great.

>>389887105
Handhelds are consoles m8, I hope I don't need to explain this to you

>>389874118
That is how relationships work: You pay

>>389887105
you keep twisting the narrative but nobody believes you, give up

>>389886545
Nintendo is well known to be very demanding and work very closely with whatever studio they're collaborating with and they also have a reputation for whipping shitty studios into shape. Go read about what Retro used to be like for example.

>>389886318
>It might take 30 years but smart devices will replace everything
The difference between a pager and a dedicated gaming console is that a pager is simple device whose function is easily replicated on much lower tech. It never needed cutting edge technology, so it was folded into other things when phones became more portable. A more powerful pager is pointless.

But a dedicated device like a videogame console will always outshine a similarly portable multipurpose piece of technology. As smart device grow more powerful, so do consoles. So until the desire for games that use that tech disappears, consoles are here to stay alongside smart devices. Smart devices simply have to dedicate power and functionality elsewhere, gaming is a secondary concern. Hell, as long as consoles remain a budget option compared to PC gaming, they'll stick around. A PC is a much more powerful, much more multipurpose piece of hardware than any console, but it's also more expensive and less portable than the handhelds if you want to push it.

All of this is ignoring the mobile gaming market is even more different from traditional videogames than the handheld market ever was. They're meant for incredibly bitesized periods of playtime while remaining easy to start and stop wherever. The current pay model has also solidified on a F2P, microtransaction market. Both of these severely hamper more traditional experiences on the platform. So again, as long as there's a market for traditional games, consoles will exist.

>>389887105
Phones cannot seamlessly integrate controls with the device, nor are they optimized for gaming. People don't want to waste battery on playing games with their main device. Software in its current format in the gaming ecosystem cannot work on the app market for phones.

>Literally couldn't find a Switch for months
>Stores are just now getting them in stock
>S-SEE!? I-IT'S JUST A MEME! Y-YOU'RE SO G-GULLIBLE!
Congratulations anon, you sure showed everyone.

>>389883478

Hasn't the Switch sold better in japan over it's first months that the PS4?

Asking for a friend.

>>389871269
>Check my bestbuy, microplay, and walmart
>Still no switches. Told to pre-order or get on the mailing list

This is fucking insane. It's been what, half a year now?

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>>389887564
Yes.

>>389887564
Far better. It's selling at more than twice the rate. If Nintendo fixes their supply issues by November, they might be able to sell over 14 million Switches by next March.

>>389871269
>taking a picture for the sole purpose of shitposting on an anonymous forum
Why?

>>389887331
This. The big reason why the Prime games were such a success was because Nintendo bent them over and forced them to get their shit together.

Did you know the morph ball wasn't originally in the game? Retro didn't know how to do it so they just wanted to make a straight up FPS like Halo. But Miyamoto basically said
>Fuck you, if you don't put in the morph ball we're cutting the contract

>>389887736
>
prime, success
bwhabawhawhawhwahawhawhhwa

>>389885651
Canada is sold out.

Most country in europe sell out in a few days, unlike US/Japan where it's hours.

>>389887665

That would be fucking insane to see.

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>>389887105
The Switch has never been done before. It's a unique device. It's basically a laptop in tablet form. It's like nothing else on the market or available.

There is NO device like it, period. No device that serves the same function with the same power. If phones were bigger with discrete GPU's they'd be built the way the Switch is too (like a laptop crunched down), but they don't really need to be built this way and never will be built this way. Phone companies simply won't ever do this.

The Switch has a heatpipe going through it and a pretty powerful silent fan, as well as the Tegra X1 SOC which is the only way it can do what it does. Sony may try it, or other companies may try it, but unless they're using Nvidia, they aren't going to get these results. Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo all use hardware with 3rd party GPUs like AMD typically. But AMD would definitely need to redesign their shit in order to do mobile. And it's likely never going to because the low power shit requires CUTTING EDGE lithography, which AMD has always lagged behind with by about 2 years.

With custom game design specific to consoles, AMD offers better price/performance, which is why standalone home consoles use them. When you try to get the cost of all the hardware under 400-500 dollars.

Nintendo has made a totally new device in a totally standalone area of gaming, and they did it proficiently. It's paying off, and it's a competently made device. The more units it sells, the more games it gets.

>>389884054

Drop a zip code, I have friends who's been looking for one in the wild for weeks.

>>389887447
Good points. As I also mention below you, people don't want to and can't rely on a single portable device for everything. Most smartphones are not going to have hardware controls or be optimized for gaming and batteries are not going to have any major breakthroughs that would allow a multipurpose device to surpass a similarly priced and optimized device for gaming.

>>389887480
Well yes that's the main problem, the market for mobile gaming looks completely different than the console market and games would have to be developed differently, since most game development would be unsustainable as mobile apps

The thing is, Nintendo could change that. This theoretical Switch Phone wouldn't have Google Play on it, it would have had the Nintendo eshop. They control what games are on there and how much they sell for. They wouldn't allow the F2P click trash. The Switch Phones would be known for having REAL games, so when you're shopping for games, you'd pick the Switch phone if that's what you wanted

Optimization isn't really relevant, this phone would have been just as powerful as the Switch is now, and it would be running its own proprietary OS which would compete with android and iOS

>>389881737
>10 years
It peaked around 2010/2011, the years after that were mostly shovelware with minimal sales.

>>389887965
>It's basically a laptop in tablet form
You literally just described the Surface/Surface Pro more specifically. A device that has existed for like 5 years now.

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>>389887853
>bwhabawhawhawhwahawhawhhwa

>>389887858
It only fails to sell out in Nordic countries, usually, or in the ones closer to Russia. It sells out in Germany, France, Spain, UK, etc.

>>389886276

No it needed two controllers as well..

To this day I don't even know why they did it.

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>>389888271
Except, the Surface Pro can't do what the Switch can do, and was never designed for that.... And doesn't have a discrete GPU.

Did you even read that post?

>>389887965
>The Switch has never been done before. It's a unique device.
The rest of your argument does not follow with this assertion. The Switch is a handheld, which has been done before. Yes, it has new tech in it. It's not like they were going to make it with the 3DS's SoC in it, just like the PS4 wasn't going to be based on the Cell. But that doesn't make it unique. It's just newer technology that does the same old thing.

You think the 3DS didn't have a GPU?

>>389888271
The surface pro is a laptop that's 2000 bucks, and still can't play games as well as the Switch. It's a multitasking multimedia business device, and isn't nearly as capable with W10 versus the switch once you undock the tablet screen.

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>>389873039
>with all the hardware issues
You mean the ones from your shitty video crobcat?
Yeah I wonder why no one posts the PS4 Pro video or the Xbox one.
Every fucking launch has its fair share of misfits no one escapes it.

>>389888248
To add to this: https://www.engadget.com/2011/06/06/sony-sells-70-million-psp-units-worldwide-still-firmly-in-ds-r/
PSP sold 70 million in about 6 years, beating the 3DS' 6 year sales.

>>389886545
>Outsourcing a 25 year old remake to a B-grade studio after not showing any love to a series for over a decade is all but a death sentence for that series

You mean like that time when Nintendo gave a no named studio in Texas the IP and it paid off?

>>389888516
>discrete GPU
Since when does SoC = discreet GPU?

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>>389888528
Do you even know what the fuck you're posting...?

show me one other tablet device with a discrete GPU.

>>389887595

That is telling, shows how strong the brand is overall.

>>389888271
The surface pro is not a video game machine. Hell, it's even having trouble moving units to the majority of laptop/tablet consumers. It basically only exists as a toy for middle managers at companies with too much money to waste.

>>389888627
Yeah, I remember Metroid Prime being a remake of Metroid too

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>>389888549
>>389888516
>The Switch has never been done before
>This exact concept has been done before
>The Switch has never been done in this highly specific way before
The absolute state of Switch owners.

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>>389888639
The Tegra X1 is a GPU you fucking moron.
Holy shit how dumb is /v/?

Jesus Christ is this literally how dumb this board is now?

People responding
>Surface Pro lmao
>Da switch ain't a new device! It's been done!! 3DS had a discrete GPU!
>SoC aint a GPU!!!

>>389888627
>unproven studio led by skilled Japanese developers
vs
>studio that killed a beloved gaming franchise led by the guy who gave us Other M

>>389888648
The X1 is an SoC. And the Switch's is only running at 30% clock speeds in handheld mode. Several tablets have the exact same SoC that is fully clocked

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>>389888713
>Hell, it's even having trouble moving units to the majority of laptop/tablet consumers
This is the future Nintendo chose

>>389888865
>The X1 is an SoC.

A System on a Chip is called a SoC because it's a dedicated, discrete GPU with processor together.

So, what are you saying?

>>389888805

Castlevania was already on it's deathbed before Mercurysteam touched it.

>>389888797
>The Tegra X1 is a GPU you fucking moron.
Do you even know what SoC means?

The Tegra X1 is NOT a GPU. It's an SoC that contains several CPU cores and 256 maxwell GPU cores, which is an impressive amount for a handheld but it's also 2017 and you'd expect handheld technology to have improved since the Vita.

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>>389888865
>Several tablets have the exact same SoC that is fully clocked

Show me a single tablet device with the X1.

The Nvidia Shield isn't a tablet, so I'm curious to see this.

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>>389889046
>The Tegra X1 is NOT a GPU.

>It's an SoC that contains several CPU cores and 256 maxwell GPU cores

>256 maxwell GPU cores

>GPU cores

>NOT a GPU

>>389889062
https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_c?hl=en-US

>>389888950
Perhaps you should get a dictionary and look up the word "discrete"

>>389889062
Pixel C, but it throttles like crazy.

>>389889151
It's funny because the 3DS actually had a discrete GPU chip, whereas the Switch's is all built into a SoC. Apparently this means the 3DS is more advanced than the Switch, just because they're separate and not built into the same chip

>>389889186
You showed me a system built literally near identically to the Switch.

>>389888698
it's less that nintendo has a stronger brand, it's more that the portability is a huge drawing point for nips, since wii u still flopped in japan

>>389889186
The whole point of Anon's argument, from what I gathered, was that the Switch's build means it's basically a laptop, not a tablet.

And he asked to see a dedicated TABLET. You showed him a device that's built like the Switch, a unique hybrid "laptop" with a screen on a tablet form. And it's 600 dollars.

You should probably not tell others to get a dictionary.

>>389889186
GPU's that contain processors are still considered discrete.

Eventually, all systems will be SOC.

Phones still won't fucking use GPU's.

>>389889634
And it's been on the market since 2015 because that's when the X1 hit the market

The whole reason Nintendo delayed the Switch from its intended release in 2016 was because they were hoping for the pascal tegra to finalize, but Nvidia couldn't get it done

No one is going to argue that as a portable machine, the Switch is very impressive, and yes, no phone can currently touch it. But that gap is going to grow smaller and smaller as the years progress, as GPU cores become cheaper to integrate and fab processes shrink. You're also reaching diminishing returns on such a small screen, where most people can't tell the difference between a 1080p screen and a 1440p screen when it's only 6"

Phones will eventually replace any need for a device like the Switch. Just not yet

>>389889897

Well to be fair, that's why I got one, I like taking my Game with me on the go.

>>389889897

It's one of the reasons why I wouldn't be shocked at all if Sony announces announces a Switch clone at it's conference.

>>389890048
So Nintendo will launch a Nintendo phone.

I don't see what the fucking argument is. Nintendo can and always will survive in hardware via portable systems. That is it's dominant domain.

>>389890042
SoCs are not GPUs. That mistake is yours. By your definition, every single handheld that's ever had a FPU had a "discrete gpu" which just isn't true, since that would mean the GBA had a discrete GPU

The only thing different about the X1 is it's much more like a PC/console GPU than a handheld GPU. Most GPU cores in phones/tablets (and the vita/3ds, etc) have far more geometry processing capability per core, and have a very small amount of cores. The X1 uses the quantity over quality approach in symmetrical processing, by having many cores that are all comparatively weaker

>>389890134
It cannot.
Nintendo currently owns Nvidia in the X1 area. I'm sure the X2 is all locked up as well.

And like anon said way earlier, AMD ain't touching the X1.

>>389890048
>The whole reason Nintendo delayed the Switch from its intended release in 2016 was because they were hoping for the pascal tegra to finalize, but Nvidia couldn't get it done

Do you have a source for that? I've heard that the reason the Switch was delayed was to build a better software release schedule. The initial manufacturing was already being done in 2016.

>>389890474
I'm not sure what the argument is. A SoC by definition contains the GPU. So what are you going to fucking say because it's combined in a single chip it's no longer a GPU?

Is the argument that the GPU isn't "discrete?" Because theoretically, a SoC houses a discrete processor and GPU.

>>389890387
>Nintendo can and always will survive in hardware via portable systems.
Forever is a very long time. Their demise is written on the wall, just like all of ours is. I'm merely predicting it will happen within my lifetime, at least for their hardware business. I think their IPs are very strong and they're very good at making games, so they will probably last *virtually* forever in software as long as there aren't huge changes in copyright law in the centuries to come
>That is it's dominant domain.
Nintendo is its IPs. No one gives a shit about their hardware at the end of the day

>>389890667
>1985, Nintendo launches video game console, after the video game crash? Dead as fuck in this market, Nintendo's done
>1986, wow, seriously? Famicom DISK System? Disks suck shit... It's really over... What happened to your main console support?
>1989, wow, the "GAY BOY?" Dead... Underpowered, old hardware... It's literally over... They killed themselves.
>1991, Nintendo launches Super childrens box, underpowered next to Genesis, dead as fuck, kids won't admit to owning one
>1995, virtual reality is cool... Wait, RED? Dead. Nintendo is done, what were they thinking?
>1996, cartridges... Not CDs? Dead as fuck. Goodbye Nintendo.
>1999, The Nintendo 64 DD? Really? Disks again? It's over, goodbye Nintendo, you'll die in Japan then the West...
>2001, holy fuck, small CDs? Dead as shit. It's really over...
>2001, wow... Game Boy Advance? I have to buy a new portable power system after the last one failed miserably? It's fucking totally over... and it uses cartridges....... Not Game Boy Discs... Dead on Arrival.
>2004, A dual... Screen? Touch screen? Holy shit. You taped two Game Boy Advances together? Dead...
>2006, WII? Haha! That's like my wiiwii. Wait, motion controls? Like the power glove? Haha (actual comments) dead!
>2011, 3D? Wow, seriously? What is this, VIRTUAL BOY 2? Haha! VB2, baby! Holy shit, it's so over. Goodbye Nintendo, your last market is mobile, and you killed it.
>2011, wow, Wii U? You mean Wii Shit 2? Dead (sold like shit, still profitable for Nintendo)
>2016, wow, Pokemon GO? This is really it... Nintendo is purely mobile games now... Dead.
>2016, Wow... Mario Run? More like Mario Flop?? It only made 30 million dollars from 90 million downloads? Dead...
>2017, Switch? Wow... jesus fuck, brace yourselves, we're witnessing their last and final console release anons, it won't be pretty.

>>389890657
>A SoC by definition contains the GPU
Uh no? A SoC doesn't have to have a GPU at all. You're confusing terminology, dude, I don't know how else to tell you. SoC just means it has the essentials of the system all on a single chip. Whereas a PC mostly consists of discrete components, you buy the CPU, you buy the memory, etc, all in modular capacity, SoC bundles many of those together onto a single chip. It may indeed have a GPU, but it doesn't have to. Disposable phones likely do not have GPU cores on their SoC, but it's still a SoC

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>>389874254
>Model 2.

>>389890846
>we're witnessing their last and final console release anons
But you're putting words into my mouth, anon. Why would you do that? Do you not have a real argument?

>>389890667
they'll stop making console ANY DAY NOW
For real this time

>>389890979

Sorry.

>>2017, Switch? Wow... jesus fuck, brace yourselves, we're witnessing their last and final console release anons, it won't be pretty. Forever is a very long time. Their demise is written on the wall, just like all of ours is.

>>389890667
Nintendo's biggest hits, the Wii and DS, had their main identity in their distinct hardware far more so than they relied on Nintendo's IP. "Wii" and "Touch" became brands in themselves.

>>389891000
IT'S OVER....
AFTER 35 YEARS....

GOODBYE NINTENDO.... REST IN PEACE
THE SWITCH ISN'T SELLING... IT'S OVER...
PHONES ARE REPLACING YOU....

Is it... Is it finally time? To say..

RIP Ninty... Your demise is written on the walls...

Just like it was with the Virtual Boy and the N64 and the GameCube and the Wii U...

RIP....

>>389891053
I think you should read The Last Question, by Issac Asimov. It should give you a nice primer on the shortcomings of equating a long time to "forever"

>>389882367
nice strawman, retard

>>389891113
>"Wii" and "Touch" became brands in themselves.
Which is why they're still marketing those right next to Mario and Zelda, right?

I'm really sorry that you have such a big issue being wrong

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Hey OP I was at that same target just today, they had about 10 switches when I was there, too bad I'm a poorfag or else I would've copped one or two.

>>389891243
sorry i don't waste my time with genre fiction

>>389891747
I'm sure there are similar verses concerning the impermanence of man in the Bible too

>>389871509
>thank god I will never be that miserable
Just miserable enough to read and respond to shitposts. Good job.

>>389878175
>permavirgin manchild

wow such rage. /v/ is nothing but permavirgin manchildren and /v/ knows it.

>>389891343
Because they're selling the Switch now, obviously. Are you trying to pretend like the Wii and the DS weren't a big deal for their hardware, simply because they aren't currently being manufactured? If it were all about IPs, Nintendo's hardware would all perform equally well. But it's the hardware that catches on with the public that succeeds, while the hardware that doesn't reach people fails.

>>389878321
gatorboi? Is that you sweetie?

>>389871269
>They're charging for all the fucking items in the box. What the fuck Nintendo?

are you retarded?

>>389892441
>If it were all about IPs, Nintendo's hardware would all perform equally well. But it's the hardware that catches on with the public that succeeds
You're implying that all of their games are equal. Verily the Switch has seen some starting success because of how great BotW was

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>>389890667
>It'll be this time, we swear

>>389894279
We are all doomed, anon. I'm sorry you can't look upon the face of infinity as I can

>>389886706

>Pokemon go is dead except to a handful of autists (even by pokemon standards) that still make it worth running

>Implying that compared to that a Switch pokemon title (assuming it's in the conventional gameplay vein) won't move tons.

I remember people swearing that not even Pokemon could bail out the 3DS and while it's not the best selling console of all time it's well beyond profitability.

>>389894438
>nab one while you still can til the end of October
Marketer spotted

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It won't matter come this November because finding a Switch during the holidays will be rare, like finding good seats for Hamilton, The Book Of Mormon and Lady Gaga at base price, it'll be that rare.

So yeah, nab one while you still can til the end of October

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>>389877629
>Yet here you are, taking pictures of things that you are not interested in buying just to pick fights with strangers from the safety of your home.
That's what Sony fans do best. Also prey on little children.

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>tfw we see anons who didn't get their Switch early bitching about not being able to get one because they thought they could get one on the Switch on Black Friday

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It won't matter come this November because finding a Switch during the holidays will be rare, like finding good seats for Hamilton, The Book Of Mormon and Lady Gaga at base price, it'll be that rare.

So yeah, nab one while you still can til the end of October

>>389893720
I'm talking about IPs here. Mario's historically been a much bigger seller than Zelda, but even Nintendo's biggest seller, Mario Kart, couldn't save the Wii U. But an updated version of the same game has proven to be a big hit on more appealing hardware.

Obviously, games are very important, but the idea that Nintendo coasts by with their hardware simply from the brand name of their games is mistaken. Nintendo's model is in integrated hardware and software. If one fails, it takes the other with it.

>>389895283
>Nintendo's biggest seller, Mario Kart, couldn't save the Wii U. But an updated version of the same game has proven to be a big hit on more appealing hardware.
There are some fallacies here. MK8 did very well on the Wii U, and I have my doubts that MK8D will top it. If it does it will take years, and I'd hope that there'd be an MK9 rather anyway

>but the idea that Nintendo coasts by with their hardware simply from the brand name of their games is mistaken
But that's exactly what happens. Nintendo's hardware business exists only because of their software. Take away their games and no one would buy these devices

> If one fails, it takes the other with it.
The same is not true for their software. EA is a bigger publisher than Nintendo (currently) and they've done this without any hardware system of their own. You don't need to be a hardware maker to succeed in software. You're just under this delusion because you're a drone. A Nintendo game is just as fun no matter where you play it

>>389891243
Anon, are you really trying to say that Nintendo's production is like the heat death of the universe?

>>389895735
I'm saying nothing lasts forever, which is something everyone should be able to agree with. Once we've settled that, it should no longer be an argument about if Nintendo leaves the hardware business, but when will it happen? I simply think it'll be a lot sooner than you do, specifically "within my lifetime" and for the record I'm 30 and relatively healthy

Dedicated video game consoles are simply obsolete. They're *already* obsolete, and it becomes increasingly so as the years progress. Handhelds will grow obsolete faster since phones can already replace them, but of course home consoles are doomed too

If Nintendo had foresight and wanted to continue making hardware for decades to come, they'd be getting into the smart device market, not making another device that only plays video games. I mean, this is the whole reason MS and Sony are starting to regard the PS and Xbox as more media centers than "consoles". I'd argue consoles have *already* died, and in fact the Wii U was the last one. PS4 and Xbox are mass-produced HTC's and the Switch is a smart phone without cellular capabilities.

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>>389881674
>less competition is good
so this is the power... of commies sony negroes... damn

>>389896390
MS and Sony competing has lead to a healthier industry than Nintendo competing with anyone, because again, Nintendo doesn't compete. They regard themselves as Apple does, and they think they have a blue ocean on their own products

Ergo If I had to choose a market where there are only 2 competitors, I would pick one with competitors BESIDES Nintendo. Because a market with only 2 competitors, and Nintendo is one of them, means they both have monopolies on their respective markets.