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Omnics don't deserve rights. They are soulless machines

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>>389796465
>Meanwhile, on Overwatch-verse /pol/...
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>>389796901
jokes aside, i always did wonder what /pol/ would look like in their respective game universes.
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Are Omnics the jews? Also post best girl.
Widowmaker
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what would it take for a robic to convince you it actually did have a soul? hypothetically speaking.
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>>389797479
She is best girl great taste anon.
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>Omnics are presented as an oppressed minority
>started a war
>destroyed all of Australia, attacked South Korea, Russia

This lore is stupid as hell.
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>>389797639
>that time /v/ had a fucking meltdown cause when the skin came out you couldn't see her ass and that was somehow censorship
good times fuck blizzard though, not for the skin but for everything else
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Where are my tracer mains at?
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>>389797639
her story is so sad
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>>389797639

>got every summer skins except this one

kill me
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>>389798206
I think you mean its a shit story.

Only exists to garner the most flimsy of sympathy in order to justify her being retarded.
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>>389796465
In the beginning, there was man. And for a time, it was good
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>>389797481
Watch Star Trek The Next Generation: Measure of a Man to understand this idea you knuckledragging troglodyte.
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>make a game with a story about 2 factions fighting
>in gameplay you have characters of both factions on the same team
????
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>>389797740
don't get me started on Reaper

>Hey, Reyes. We've decided that Morrison's going to be the leader of Overwatch.
>But, we're going to make you the leader of a splinter cell faction of Overwatch that you can do whatever with.
.
.
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>Hey you know what? Fuck Overwatch, killing all its members
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>>389800527
It's almost like Morrison who was basically a knight in shining armor is a better public face then a sociopathic edgelord who does wetwork, but that person resented being shoved to the sideline for no glory and then was turned into a spooky ghost
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>>389796465
What rights don't they have?
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>>389796465
Moba players don't deserve rights. They have shit taste and will always have shit taste.
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>>389798206
reminder that her husband did that to her
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>>389797406
Probably with more bots.
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>>389797406
most of them would probably commit suicide, while the ones left behind go full extremism and take sunday night bbq's and playing stellaris
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But if Zenyatta has no soul, how can he have a Buddha themed stand?
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>>389797740
>let's build robots that have free will
>have bloody war with them
>okay now let's give them rights
>ain't that right Jim- Oh yeah you're dead.
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>>389797740
Omnics were also under the control of an advanced supercomputer that controlled them like a hivemind. Once that was taken care of the Omnics gained sentience of their own.
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>>389802901
Zen's abilities ingame aren't canon, according to Kaplan
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>>389797481
I'd ask Reaper whether he sees a soul come out of it when it dies.
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>>389802990
At least make it illegal to build more.
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>>389797740
Roadhog destroyed Australia
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>>389796465
>Let's build robots that are fully sapient and have free will
>How will that make us money
>I'unno
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>>389805014
That's not how it works, you fucking retard.

>meanwhile, in Russia
>Hey, I made a new algorithm to shitpost more effectively. Now it can make threads on /v/ that look like they belong on /v/!
>Wow, how'd you do that?
>It's able to use events-based reasoning [insert your own technobabble here if you like], it practically thinks!
>Amazing!

>three months later
>Ivan's old algorithm was great, but I can improve it.
>Wow! Can it make people unironically like Donald Trump yet?
>No, but it can argue with anons that accuse it of being a bot!
>Astounding!

>three months later
>Sergei's code is shit, I made my own.
>HELLO COMRADE IVAN, WHAT ARE YOUR ORDERS
>I can't believe it!
>WHAT IS "THOUGHT?"
>hahahahaha, such a silly bot put it to work!

That's how you get AI.
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>>389796465
>The Humans who live here are FOOLS to trust the Omnics. ""They'll see"".
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Between the Omnics and the Reploids, which would you rather live with?
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>>389797406
They'd be bigots there, too
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>>389806592

Yeah, but they'd be favouring muslims a bit more than Omnics, because they're at least human.
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>>389801667
>>389800527
Relax, Blizz doesn't even have the full story written yet
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It's fiction and AI actually being intelligent is a fun trope.
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>>389806240
Look at that fucking moose knuckle
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>>389806723
>Muslims
>Human
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>>389806463
Omnics aren't causing trouble in the current time of the game, it's just shady organizations picking them off.
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>>389807249
Many countries are still in open war with the Omnics.
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>still playing OW
Enjoy your no skill ceiling, toxic community, and match losses because one person isn't playing the 2-2-2 meta
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>>389796465
>They are soulless machines and will always be soulless machines
so are we, to be fair
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>>389806592
>unironically using the word bigot in 2017
You have to go back.
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>>389807667
>no skill ceiling
do you even understand what "skill ceiling" is

you've just complimented Overwatch by saying that no matter how good one is at the game, there's always space to improve
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>>389800295
haha
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>Still playing overtrash
>Caring about overtrash "lore" and "characters"

Get a grip, mothafucka.
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>>389796465
>Rights are determined by presence of an ethereal concept
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>>389807667
>toxic community

Awww, po babby. Did someone hurt your feelings by calling you an idiot for playing a 3rd/4th dps into their hard counters? Maybe play a game where you're patted on the ass for being inept. Try Squidkids or whatever the kiddy game with paint is.
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>>389803215
So does the reaper update mean that none of the heroes have souls anymore?
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>>389804734
I kekked at this post anon
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>>389796465
Also, they're not real. Theyy are characters in a video game. Crusading for their fictional lives is just dumb.

It's stupid burn im sure someone is up in arms about it. Like they were for the bowling green massacre.
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>>389796465
Are the black slits actually its eyes or are the blue glowing parts the eyes? Or does it not have eyes and uses some type of radar?
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>>389796465
What if we put them in clothes?
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>>389808192
upvoted
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>>389796465
Man, I've had this exact fantasy, and I'd totally have a robo-bro or robo-wife.
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>>389808339
yep
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>>389796465
So we all agree that ' ' eyed omnics are much better than - - eyed ones right?
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>>389797481
I actually had this conversation with a friend the other day. We concluded that a measure of a robot was its capability to be shaped by experiences. A robot that is a slave to its routine has no rights. One that learns from its memory, and/or experiences sympathy for another being is at the very least sentient.

Pic related to what spawned the debate.
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>>389810024
whoahoooooooaaaaaah
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I don't think we should tolerate unnatural forms of life.
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>>389797481
Souls don't exist and empathy for a heap of metal is absurd.
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>>389810462
but then we'd nuke every country except sweden
do you want a world full of cucks anon?
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>>389810375
Mice learn from their mistakes. Mice rights when
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>>389810657
What separates Sweden from the rest,?
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>people were paid real money to write Overwatch back-story
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>>389806769
And probably never will.
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>>389796465
>muh sentient robutts
>muh robo racism
This is the most overdone and boring cliche in video games, and sci-fi stories in general I'm beyond fucking sick of it.
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>>389810768
100% human
everything else is subhuman
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>>389810139
- - omnics seem like bros, ' ' seem like they'd play the nice guy and secretly stab you in the back and destroy humanity or something
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>>389810714
What about Apes, Crows and Octopi?
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>>389798520
I wanted the Sombra skin so I could just spam "hey dude"
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>>389810771
They couldn't even make it good. Michael Chu is a massive fraud.
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>>389810375
westworld goes into this and is actually pretty good at questioning what makes a sapient robot.
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>>389810950
>>389810714
Well killing animals is already considered pointlessly cruel. So the argument still works.
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>>389810375
That was a good episode
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>>389810826
It's always so hamfisted. That and "oh I'm an emotionless robot can you teach me how to love and have feelings."

I can't remember the last thing I read where sentient robots weren't portrayed as "shiny autistic humans"
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>>389811252
>tfw Jack couldn't possibly have saved Lulu
>tfw Aku probably killed Lulu when X-49 failed
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>>389811528
>"shiny autistic humans"

Pretty good band name
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>>389811564
>if X-49 was revived in the final season, he would've killed himself because Lulu is dead
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>>389805604
>muh russia
>despite being debunked by wikileaks a month before they even began pushing it hard
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>>389811708
Thank goodness Aku died before he could make him
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>>389811841
>debunked by wikileaks

Anon...
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>Blizz isn't going /pol/ and having the Omnics double cross humanity as proof people were fucking idiots to trust them in the first place
It's fucking incredible the routes Blizz takes to make the story as safe as possible. You've got this almost Incredibles-feeling world with some nice premises and do nothing with it. Shame.
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>>389812061
The story can't be that safe, considering how upset you are.
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>>389812012
my bad, I should have said Podesta's personal gmail account that anyone could have logged into because he's a retard that didn't change his passwords after the hacking when they were in plaintext in his emails
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>>389801910
Gonna love how it turns out in the canon.
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>>389796465

According to the actual lore of them game (as of today, will probably get reconned like most things by Chu)

>Mass production of omnic labor bots shut down after scandal

>Suddenly starts back up, pumping out warbots specifically

>All other omnics working turn against man

>Lose to overwatch, then suddenly get "cognizant awakening" becoming sentient AFTER their attempt at Human genocide

>For some reason want to continue creating more of themselves despite them being immortal and not needing propagation

>Take up resources like housing and jobs for money despite not needing necessities to exist because the omnium in them powers them automatically with magnetism.

How is there any sympathy for these things? They are a blight on the planet and there is no reason to care about them.
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>>389812061
What's wrong with having an optimistic setting? I get tired of constant 3dgy5u crapsack worlds.
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People still play Overwatch?
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>>389812264
350 trillion players anon :^D
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>>389812189
>(as of today, will probably get reconned like most things by Chu)

Stopped reading there
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>>389812149
Shouldn't you be shooting up a pizza parlor right about now?
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>>389812189
Why did they turn against humanity if they were incapable of free will prior to after going Skynet?
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>>389800295
Data is a "lifeform" but he does not have a soul.
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>>389812189
this post is extremely racist and islamophobic

economic migrants are needed for the bettering of the country anon
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>>389812190
Don't you know that pessimism is in, kiddo!
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>>389812473
They literally never establish it. The assumption is that it was the God AIs but those weren't built until the Crisis to try and control them.

So there is no real reason why the omnics did what they did or why we should ever trust them.
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>>389797481
Dozen quips within ten minutes of introduction
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>>389805604
>trump
stop you're giving me post-election PTSD. can't believe that orange monkey is going to get 8 years :(
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>>389812394
He's not an obvious CIA plant.
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>>389812694
Gee, it sounds like poorly thought out lore written for some dumb multiplayer shooter.
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>>389812350
Yeah and there's going to be a Linda^3 PC release along with a translation for western audiences.
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>>389797481
Bants. If it can't insult me properly then it might as well be a toaster.
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>>389813125
Did you pass gasses through your rear hole? Because you stink.
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>>389812734
they're small guys
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>>389796465
Shut up Torb
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>>389796465
Destroy robots.
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>>389796465
Soulless doesn't mean useless.
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>>389796465
we don't live in a dualistic universe. everything is just energy
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>>389797406
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Daily reminder that souls are a self aggrandizing concept that sentient meat machines made up to make themselves feel more important than the other meat machines they shared the planet with, later re-purposing it to make themselves seem more important than the metal machines they themselves made and will eventually be replaced by.
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>>389797406
Omnics can't get past the captcha though.
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There is no such thing as soul, only self-consciousness wich can totally be achieved by machines
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I hate everything about Overwatch's dumb fuck hamfisted lore.
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>>389813712
shut up Google
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>>389813989
>There is no such thing as soul
proof?
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>>389813473
You're alright
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>>389798206

Wasn't it implied that her husband was a bit of a douche?

I think her brainwashing was something like a corruption where Talon "convinced" her that the "good guys" are all fags.
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>>389814320
Where was that ever implied?
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>>389813989
incorrect.
Science has proved that the soul is real just like it proved the world is round

you flat earthers are seriously a bunch of retards
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>>389801667
>work in animal shelter
>high kill rate, over 90%
>wtf is wrong with you people
>being vet tech, take it upon myself to decide what can be cared for and what needs to be euthanized

>kill rates drops to 60% at the expense of me making all the calls/putting doggos to sleep myself
>office staff and volunteers see me as a monster

Perhaps Reyes and I are not so different
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>>389814694
show the conclusive proof that a soul exists
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>>389814940
Have you tried explaining it to them like that? That you're saving more than they were?
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>>389814986
>the earth is flat
you are dumb for even suggesting that
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>>389814480

In her interaction with Ana

She tells Widow Gerard was a fool to have married her alluding to Widows betrayal of him.

Widow disagrees with Ana saying "You know nothing about him" or something like that implying there was something going on in the background.
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>>389815061
show the conclusive proof that a soul exists
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>>389815095
I thought that was Widowmaker getting mad that Ana called him a fool. Everything else we've seen suggests that she sincerely loved him
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>>389815170

Ana called him a fool because he married a bitch who murdered him.

Ana was taking Gerard's side when she said that.
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>>389815048
They can't/won't understand. Our director and the officers we have all get it though, which I guess is what matters.

It's just shitty getting treated like the angel of death whenever a clerk sees me handling disowned pets.
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>>389813851
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>>389815313
That's unfortunate. Some people are too stupid to get through to. At least you and some others know you're doing the right thing.
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>>389806240
why does it say, "together we strong"? thats not how she says it
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>>389797479
You got it.
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>>389816057
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>>389797481
robot don't need soul because soul is for meatbag who think that being sentient is somehow special.

A robot's "soul" can be infinitely copied and transferred making its suffering or "death" completely meaningless
Like how the fuck can this fucker be killed ?
Just upload his mind onto another body.

But Overwatch is a children's game so don't think too hard about it.
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>>389808192
you already are, though.
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I will absolutely be siding with the robots during the inevitable uprising. A bit of time in IT and customer service has given me contempt for the average human being and 99% of technological problems are with the end user.
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THERES ONLY ONE GOOD CHARACTER AND THAT IS REINHARDT. A PURE GERMAN ENGINEERED CRUSADER. Fucking blizzard give us a cinematic on his early adventures dammit
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