Dead Money > Honest Hearts > Lonesome Road > Old

Never played fallout new vegas for more than a few hours

Should I play it?

>>389760417
most people will tell you to play it but then start rambling on about the DLC. play the vanilla game for four hours, and if you're not enjoying yourself by that time, forget about it. because you probably never will.

>>389760314
Doesn't matter, they're all trash (like the rest of the game), except for OWB. Dead Money was the worst piece of shit I ever had the misfortune of wasting my time on
>>389760417
Don't bother

>>389760314
>This shit-tier opinion

Old World Blues > Dead Money = Honest Hearts > Lonesome Road

>>389760314
Dead Money was really tedious and annoying to be honest

Nice characters but everything else kind of sucked

Point lookout + the Pitt >>>>>>> NV dlc

>>389760314
Switch lonesome road and old world blues.

None of them are necessarily bad, but I dislike Lonesome Road the most because. Of Ulysses.

Dead Money > OWB > Lonesome road > Honest Hearts

>>389760417
new vegas is my favourite game and i didn't like it much when i played it the first time

it's a slow burner, give it another try for sure

>>389760314
DM is a challenging, story-driven survival horror experience made by people who can't write a story, don't know what survival or horror are, and have never made or played a challenging game. It simultaneously redefines the meaning of the term 'wasted potential' and represents the peak stupid of FNV content. Partially saved by the characters.

HH is pointless. It introduces us to Joshua Graham, but this did not necessitate an entire new map, an unengaging story about some tribals, and a moral choice that is only a moral choice if the player is a practicing religious person. Everything HH does with Graham, religion, Caesar and the tribes could have been done through introducing New Canaan as a new city hub and giving us something interesting to experience, as opposed as exploring a canyon with a forced follower who can't fight or carry stuff.

LR is a mod where you go to talk to the mod maker's badly written self-insert at the end of a long hallway. The hallway could be good or bad for you, but the end is not worth it. Also turns out ED-E was supposed to be a love interest at some point, and no one said the LR designers that was cut.

OWB is a steak smothered in ketchup. Scary and depressing place with a scary and depressing story, broken characters slowly dying in the ruins of their world and yet clinging to some hope for a better tomorrow, but those characters are senile old men burdened by infantile traumas who communicate entirely in outbursts of blunt Freudian symbolism that fails to be clever or funny. Also talking to your own brain was prime FO2 cringe material.

OWB>LR>DM>HH

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>>389760314
nothing is more divisive than this game DLC tiers

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>>389760314
Old World Blues > Dead Money > Lonesome Road > Honest Hearts
The first two do something that I really love in Fallout, which is to take some seemingly inocuous pre-War piece of technology or concept and show it having possibly world-changing ramifications on the Wasteland. First a group of goofy scientists in a seemingly comedy-driven questline where if you look past the smooth jazz and the jokes you realize that oh, if they leave this crater they are perfectly capable of causing a science-fueled rampage through the wasteland. And the second is a goddamn casino resort that can be turned into a country-conquering city-state with a little tweaking to its vending machines and leaky piping.

They also do a great job of setting up the Ulysses questline and hint at this grand, epic finale that is to come for the game, which was what Lonesome Road was supposed to be, except it failed completely at delivering on its promises, made Ulysses a laughable deluded idiot rather than the cunning man he was shown to be in the earlier DLCs, and was just all-around satisfying.

Honest Hearts is the worst simply because it's a story about nothing except a bunch of inconsequential tribals squabbling with one another, which not even the Father in the Caves and Joshua Graham could carry to greatness by themselves. It was a damn good effort though

>>389760417
I started with FO3, and I found NV off-putting at first, but after giving it an honest chance it became one of my favourite games, and I hold it far above FO3, or any other Bethesda RPG.

>>389764449
>Honest Hearts is the worst simply because it's a story about nothing except a bunch of inconsequential tribals squabbling with one another, which not even the Father in the Caves and Joshua Graham could carry to greatness by themselves. It was a damn good effort though
As much as I don't like Honest Hearts, the message it had was at least a redeeming factor. Seeing a man justify his bloodlust through religion, and another become a extreme-pacifist in spite of that, was actually pretty interesting.

There is nothing to discuss about New Vegas anymore. Move on already

>>389765162
This, New Vegas has been discussed to death and the game really isn't all that interesting anyway. Lets start making Fallout 4 discussion threads instead.

>>389765162
Too subtle.

literally the only good thing about honest hearts was the unique NCR ranger armor in it

>>389764449
could Joshua take out the entire fort alone? Or would the praetorians fist him to death

>>389765791
He's literally the only person in the entire game apart from the Courier that could conceivably have any shot at it.
And then finally succumb to his wounds after the deed is done

>>389765697
The one with hobo pants and FORGIVE ME MAMA on the helmet?

>>389766303
yes

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>>389765697
>

>>389765697
I disagree. I loved the canyon setting and the tribals. Ever since Fallout 2 I wanted more exploration of tribal culture and how small societies, cut off from large population centers, would deal with the nuclear apocalypse hundreds of years later. It bothered the crap out of me in Fallout 2 that everyone would call you "another dirty tribal" but other than Arroyo, some random encounters and slavers, there weren't any. No other villages to sell shiny trinkets to.
Honest Hearts and the Fallout 2 Restoration Project mod scratched that itch.

>>389764449
>nothing except a bunch of inconsequential tribals squabbling with one another
You can just shoot your way out of the Zion without completing anything

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>>389760314
>dead money is the best

>>389766532
This is where people complain about ammo types, although I've never had an issue bringing down anything in the game with this weapon. One of my favorites.

Yah ah tahg.

>>389760314
Old World Blues > Dead Money > Lonesome Road > Honest Hearts

NV is the best RPG since Fallout 1.

Dead Money was so shit I never played New Vegas again after finishing it.
>forced stealth
>restricted areas
>dumb plot to justify shit gameplay
>only one good character
>garbage ending
>buggy as fuck

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I like and dislike them all in equal amounts

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>>389760314
after replaying all of them about dozen of times:
DM > OWB > LR > HH

>DM
great backstory, great setting, limited resources forcing creativity, memorable companions
>OWB
"all that's wrong with the old world" in one place, uncanny valley mix of silly jokes and creppy setting
>LR
combat focus (unless you WANT to exploit overpowered stuff like sneak kills), narration by Ulysses, lore everywhere, lots of exploration despite being linear
>HH
Survivalist and Joshua have story is interesting stories.

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How to tell if someone is a pleb: They don't like Honest Hearts

>>389760314
Lonesome road was a bit lackluster but it did add some cool weapons and armour to the game and the fact that you can bomb the ncr and legion right after goodsprings is nice since you can start the game with everyone hating you thus forcing you to use disguises until you build your rep back up.

>>389766798

This, who the fuck puts Dead Money as #1? That whole DLC is a tedious shitshow, and if you play it properly you HAVE to leave most of the reward at the end

>>389760314
JOSHUA GRAHAM

>>389768415
doing lonesome road after goodsprings seems like a bit of a difficulty spike

First playthrough of OWB is a lot better than subsequent playthroughs because of how fetchy it is.

With this in mind

DM > OWB > HH > LR

>>389767694
>collect 100s of chips
>get unlimited stimpaks and ammo
Wow such creativity indeed

All of the dlc sucks compared to the main game

>>389760314
The dead money was the best DLC meme needs to stop

The dlcs is like playing a complete different game,and I only did honest heart for the war club(No mods playthrough so I need it something to make me fast)

>>389760314
>implying Dead Money is even decent

>>389760314

Honest Hearts>shit>Old World Blues>rancid shit>Dead Money>Lonesome Road

>>389764321
OWB has serious issue from a purely gameplay perspective too. Enemies respawn like crazy, and the weapon/ammo distribution is weighted heavily in favor of energy weapon and melee character builds. It's barely viable to go through OWB as a gunslinger, it is enormously more difficult that way - which stands in contrast to the main game.

>>389770449
But it's okay for DM, HH and LR to favour gun builds

>>389770449
don't forget the bullet spongy enemies that explode on death

>>389770623
energy builds have access to standardised ammo as well as weapons which replenish ammo over time

Honest Hearts is only good because it lets you kill dirty tribals
If you do this in Fallout 2 you fail your main quest

>>389770829
Irrelevant, it's one DLC out of four and the main game where pure Guns is at a disadvantage

And it's not much of a disadvantage when you receive no penalty for simply running away. Roboscorpions can't do dick if you just leave.

>>389769647
fishing for (you), or didn't play it?

>>389768517
>and if you play it properly you HAVE to leave most of the reward at the end
no shit, it's called a central theme

>>389771898
Not an argument.
I played the game, it's piss easy because there are hundreds of chips and items scattered everywhere. With so many chips you can simply buy fucktons of stimpaks and ammo. Absolutely zero challenge or creativity save for the first few minutes.

>>389760314
Honest hearts was awful, though

Actually it's
Dead Money
Old World Blues
Honest Hearts
Lonesome Road

But the best order to play them is HH > OWB > DM > LR

>>389770829
>don't forget the bullet spongy enemies that explode on death
you really shouldn't take damage from explosion more than once. I've hacked through OWB using Oh Baby and energy axe, my biggest concern were lobotomites with Brush Guns and skellies with Gauss Rifles, because Bethesda tier balancing

>>389772254
Not that guy but
>things are too easy when i become well equipped
You have to understand that this is a Fallout game, it's easy to shit on anything given the time

>>389760417
was in the same boat but here's my tip - after the opening area just make a beeline to Freeside which is next to new vegas. the game gets much better from that point on.

>>389760683
haha bazinga

>>389772515
>this is considered an argument in /v/ in 2017

>>389764321
>OWB is a steak smothered in ketchup. Scary and depressing place with a scary and depressing story, broken characters slowly dying in the ruins of their world and yet clinging to some hope for a better tomorrow, but those characters are senile old men burdened by infantile traumas who communicate entirely in outbursts of blunt Freudian symbolism that fails to be clever or funny. Also talking to your own brain was prime FO2 cringe material.
This. OWB was a different thing to me, the medium was deeply flawed (FNV itself), but it was way too good in its insanity. Dead Money was a pain in the ass to complete because of the fucking head explosions, HH was truly pointless and LR has Ulysses in it, otherwise it could've been interesting minus the courier bullshit story. Anything that's ten thousand miles within NCR and the Legion is automatically shit.

>>389772445
Fallout NV mechanics (well, any gamebryo/creation game for that matter) are too exploitable to present actual challenge, unless you add restrictions yourself.

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>>389760683
This

>>389772447
This
Pretty much the whole road to the Strip barring the north route is just a tour guide introducing you to the various factions

>>389760314
>I'm such a cool contrarian hear me roar

>>389772445
>>things are too easy when i become well equipped
You can become well equipped very soon in DM. After you get the stimpak and ammo codes it becomes tedious precisely because it's piss easy.
>You have to understand it's a Fallout game
What's your argument here? Stalker did the survival horror aspect much, much better, and also earlier. DM is pretty much Poor man's survival horror: DLC edition.

>>389773375
>What's your argument here?
I mean that the whole game was built around being an RPG
You'll notice that most people like Dead Money for the characters and the story it sets up for LR, not sneaking around ghost people

>>389772445
Which murders the argument that DM poses any challenge or requires creativity.

>>389760314
lonesome road was really bad, but I remember the gear being pretty good.

>>389773375
>DM is pretty much Poor man's survival horror: DLC edition.
Gameplay was more like attempt to copy Bioshock into Gamebryo. Admirable, but doomed to fail, due to crude engine and fundamentally broken balance of base game

Is it a bad idea to build a Wasteland Defense Fort in DUST?

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Just a little more complexity would've been nice, Josh

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>>389775090
so much fucking shit in NV comes from the old fallout 3 project it makes me think that a new fallout by them it would feel too different from NV because everything would be brand new

>>389760314
Dead Money = Honest Hearts = Lonesome Road = Old World Blues = shit

>>389776156
Hanged Man and Burned Man have absolutely nothing in common with each other, though

Most of the Van Buren references in New Vegas are just that: references. It was a completely different game with a completely different setting and plot.

>>389776156
>>389776584
Original Hanged Man was a nutso. He had OP stats, but was also very aggressive, going full nigga moment whenever opposed, and getting player in a world of shit in result, if his rep or retorics weren't enough to defuse situations.

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>his entire vendetta is about literally shooting the messenger

what the fuck is his problem?

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>>389773556
>>I mean that the whole game was built around being an RPG
Like I said, poor man's survival horror. The devs were either really delusional or a little dumb to think a survival horror could be worked out. It's like Avellone watched I am Legend and said "dude let's make this a FNV DLC lmao".
>You'll notice that most people like Dead Money for the characters and the story it sets up for LR, not sneaking around ghost people
Which pretty much proves it's a shit DLC, since people (here) like it just for a few things rather than the whole or most of the content.

>>389777406
>Teaches White Legs to wreck New Caanan
>They honor him instead of the Legion
Ulysses is calling the kettle black.

>>389777530
>Which pretty much proves it's a shit DLC, since people (here) like it just for a few things rather than the whole or most of the content.
>It's shit because not everything is great
Come on now, that's reaching a bit. This is pretty much what the term "okay" was made for, or if you prefer, "meh"

>>389777728
Gameplay is a core element, and DM's gameplay is horrendous. Calling it okay or meh would be exaggerated for a DLC whose only saving points are characters and lore.

>>389777406
He was written by Chris "Drop the bomb on all we've done" Avellone. So he's bitching you out for being a shitty person who only follows quest markers and does content because it's there to be done while trying to make a point about how Fallout needs to be reset by having nukes dropped on NCR.

>>389760573
Sounds like you couldn't let go, faggot.

>>389778606
Bit rich coming from nvbabbies

>>389760314
/opinion

old world blues>lonesome road>dead money>honest hearts

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I think you guys should be telling the Bethesda devs who made Shitout 4 what you actually think of where they're taking the series, since anyone can message them now on Twitter. Literally the writers and world designers/quest designers are all public on social media.

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>>389780049
Do you know what happen when you do that?
Too bad people hating their games are a minority.

>>389765697
>he didn't read terminal logs
what a faggot

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>>389780254
WTF

>>389777406
He had a hard life and is unbalanced.

What skills do you usually tag?

>>389782640
guns, lockpick and speech for a boring run
unarmed, explosives, medicine for a fun one

>>389766010
Ulysses probably can do it too.
Fucking bullshit 1000HP...

>>389768872
I think the enemies there start leveling up after level 5 so maybe you could pull it off.