>50s era military armed with guns and helicopters vs >some

>Unified empire vs republic bogged down with bureaucracy barely able to fund the war while troops sit at zero morale


::Thinking::

not if Caesar's Rubicon™ AA system that he surely has installed has anything to say about it

>bomb the shit out of Fortification Hill
With what, exactly?

Legion has a billion dudes and some of them use guns.

>>389712509
plenty of shit got thrown at me before I made it to the fucking airport

>>389712329
The point of the conflict was that Caesar's Legion was organized under a unified effort, while the NCR was spread incredibly thin.

the fuck you on about, hajis with muskets and horses anally pounded the soviets and the american army lost to rice farmers

I would have been more inclined to side with the Legion more if their in-game outfits didn't look so fucking bad.

>>389712415
>>389712624
Having a "unified empire" doesn't make you bulletproof, and neither do football pads.

>>389712415
>unified empire
>will crumble the second it tries to make a major capitulation abroad.

>>389712776
The Mujahedeen were equipped with modern weapons, and so were the Viet Kong. Also

>comparing firearms of any kind to a machete

>>389713239
the legion reguarly fields automatic weapons and uses human wave tactics on the NCR, who usually only field their slow firing ar clones

(the legion found a huge arms cache in nevada, which is why they have more automatics then the NCR)

The ncr also can't manage supply routes, not only are they spread thin but raiders plague their routes

The legion lacks these issues

>The Mujahedeen were equipped with modern weapons, and so were the Viet Kong
The Mujahedeen mainly fielded muskets and did hit and run raids, the biggest thing they had was anti air arms, look it up

The vietkong primarily used bolt action rifles

>>389713535
And as a note, guys with machetes sent to charge the NCR are replaceable slaves, the NCR is totally fucked by human waves

>>389713239
Basic grunts have machetes, and only early in the game. You put a few hours in and you'll start seeing hit squads coming after you with subguns, brushguns, and super sledges. Plus I think its well known that the Legion outnumbered the NCR in soldiers they were able to field in one location. NCR was spread over a massive area. Legion held a similarly sized area, but their control was so well enforced that they could focus the majority of their military in one location, while NCR had to deal with bullshit bureaucracy to get anything decent to the damn. Only reason NCR won the first battle of the dam was because the Legion just wasn't used to large scale battlefield tactics and fell for a trap. They had the numbers and the guns to completely take the Dam itself.

>>389712329
>Applying real life logic to a game with zombies, super mutants, and robots in brain jars

Autism speaks

>>389712593
That's not in NCR control, and if you do convince the boomers to join your side then they do bomb the fuck out of the legion. What's your point here?

>>389713535
Some sand niggers were stuck with WW2 guns and fucking muskets and swords but a good number of them had captured soviet weapons and Charlie had decent numbers of semi-autos and automatics

Agreed
Also is GATE any good?

>>389712906
Neither do casual clothing and leather jackets. Legion might look dumb but its the same quality gear as the recucklick of california

>>389713745
It's super not good.

>>389713535
Whats that one movie with Tom Hanks? Charlie Wilson's War. He's the guy that finally gets the Mujahedeen the early Stinger Missile launchers that let a fucker on a horse bring down a multi million dollar Hind with a missile launcher that cost, what, 40 grand? Thats just insane.

>>389712329
the Legion had centurions in the mojave several weeks before NCR veterans show up. they fought them to a stalemate at nelson, the NCR obviously has serious supply issues. Nelson, Primm, Bitter Springs.

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>>389713745
Yeah

>>389713909
and now the russian army welds empty oil barrels full of scrap and TNT and drops them on american backed rebels backed by CIA slush funds en mass from high altitudes in syria

what goes around comes around

>>389713694
Damn I remember getting the Boomers that plane and thinking the rest just seemed so pointless. Like once you got that the NCR should have just been happy. Leave the Brotherhood alone, ignore the Khans, and whatever else fucking bullshit they ask you to try and do to get ready for the big fight. None of it matters anymore, we have a fucking bomber. What the hell does the Legion have for that? Not a goddamn thing, thats what. Game should have been over as soon as it was ready, and the Boomers should have been declared full on powerhouse in the Mojave on par with House himself.

Oh you have an army of Securitrons? Ok, we have several hundred people, each one has their own personal heavy ordance that they train with every day with a Joie de Vivre, and again, a fucking bomber that can level the strip in a few passes.

>>389712906
Everyone in the wasteland have been exposed to FEV enough to become superhuman-like, with some achieving that level like Frank and the Courier to an extent.

The ncr has quality and the legion has numbers.

>>389714169
If we look at FO4, vertibirds don't exactly give the best protection. Rocket launchers and mini-nukes could take out the bomber, so could guass rifles and possibly plasma weapons, and probably almost any heavy weapon or 50. cal

Legion raided the BoS, so it follows that they should have that kind of firepower. If it was the bomber by itself it'd likely be shot down

>>389714427
exactly backwards my dude

>>389714427
>>389714578
The NCR has more troops than the Legion, but the Legion has better troops. They're also better at swarming weak areas, breaking through, then encircling NCR ones.

Before the first patch a single Legionary could fuck up half a dozen NCR soldiers in melee, and even after the NCR buff they can still fuck up regular troopers on their own.

>>389712329
war doesn't play out with both sides bringing their full force into one big fight, there's a reason america lost in vietnam and iraq

>>389716547
we didn't "lose" in vietnam, there was no goal because it wasn't even a real war. just a complete hoax to test out new weapons technology at the time.

>>389712415
this
the NCR were explicitly overextended and were being greedy by trying to gimme all that territory

>>389713694

So the NCR has no artillery at all? They've never found a single Military base which had salvageable equipment or never commissioned some cannons from a post war manufacturer like the Gun Runners?

The legion is disciplined enough to close the distance and fight. There are plenty of examples of this working in history:

Battle of Isandlwana - Zulus rout the British despite the overwhelming difference in firearms

Hill 180 - Americans charge Chinese machinegunners and skewer them as they try to retreat

42nd Street - Aussies, Zealanders, and Maoris carry out a flanking bayonet charge on advancing Germans at Crete

>inb4 Rorke's Drift
If they had done a single massive assault instead of sending multiple waves, the Zulus wouldve won.

>>389712329
Why do people always pretend the Legion doesn't use firearms?

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>>389716718
>you can't lose if you don't plan to win

>50s era military
stop trying to sound smart when you're retarded

>>389718492
What about OPs use of "50s era military" is sciolistic?

>>389717449
>Battle of Isandlwana - Zulus rout the British despite the overwhelming difference in firearms
kind of a dumb example when the zulus outnumbered the anglos 10-1 and it's before magazine fed rifles

>>389718258
well according to the lore, they're not supposed to use firearms until they achieve veteran status. but the developers ignored this when placing legion patrols.

>>389718697
>Compared to NCR troopers, Recruit legionaries have higher health, but inferior armor. Also, while NCR soldiers primarily use firearms, the recruit legionaries use weapons ranging from simple rifles to crude machetes.

>>389718697
Recruits can have guns, but its probably more like they're not necessarily equipped with them.

>>389714326
Is that actually true or headcanon bullshit to justify game mechanics?

>>389712906
You know, having more people than they have bullets actually helps, especially when said people are literally willing to throw their lives away, believe it or not.

>>389718878
Head canon bullshit

>>389718697
No, it explicitly states they give recruits fucking nothing except maybe a plank of wood or something to bash heads in. No rules against them grabbing guns if they want.

>>389718929
And those people that they do have are better trained and more ruthless than the off-the-farm NCR trooper given basic hand-to-hand, grenade and rifle training, and, maybe, some survival training.

>>389718939
Yeah I guess I was a bit suspicious considering that in Fallout 1 you would have zero way to be exposed to FEV at the beginning.

>>389714520
Theres a big difference between a Vertibird that has to get withing a few hundred yards to fire, and a fucking bomber that drops from a half decent altitude. Unless they have some big ass AA guns they aren't hitting shit.

why do people ignore that the Legion had Slave Armies that they used as cannon fodder so their experienced troops could breakthrough and fuck the NCR up?

>>389712329
But the Legion do use guns, The NCR's excessively bogged down with internal instability, hell, the only reason that vegas is even an issue for th NCR is hoover dam and the fact that it's an election here, troops don't give a shit, they want to go home, Top brass doesn't give a shit, the only people who seriously give a shit are the citizens of the NCR.

Meanwhile Legion is a despotic cult of personality which trains their soliders to serve the Legion.

>>389716910
More like they have them, but keep them positioned at key positions in currently held NCR territory. Mojave is seen as the fringes, still no where near controlled thanks to House. They don't have the clout to move in fucking Veteran rangers with reliability, let alone super rare 200 year old artillery pieces.

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Reminder that NCR is currently going through election season back home and senators don't want to approve spending more money on the unpopular war out eastaways.

NCR troops are generally better armed, but, in game, some officers complain that freshly arrived troopers don't even have service rifles.

The NCR campaign against the legion is literally
>Hoover Dam War Movie
>Johnny Guitar Starts Playing

>>389714169
You're really overestmating the power of a single plane, one shot through the window and the pilot (and by extension the bomber) is fucking dead, you can't destroy an entire army with a single plane, especially when nellis is already sparsely populated and could be overrun by the legion or ncr, rendering the advantage of having a plane completely useless.

>>389719213
Reminder that the NCRs most veteran troops (prior to the direct ramp up to the battle of hoover dam) are in Baja chasing Enclave remnants.

>>389719201
*Citizens of NCR living beyond the Core region

>>389718929
rule of thumb is that you need twice as many people on attack than on defence this also assumes same gear.

>>389718695
Even if they had machine guns, they would have been overwhelmed too, they sooner or later will run out of ammo, and without a proper supply line they're fucked.

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>>389719329
Not him but...
1. High altitude dawn raid
2. Complete surprise (hardest part given filename)
3. Multiple High-Yield Mini Nuke Payload
4. Target: Fortification Hill
Forget about destroying an army. Just destroy its senior leadership.

>>389713909
>a multi million dollar Hind
It's possible it only cost the Soviets a fraction of that.
The astronomical prices you're used to seeing are a farce. Contractors jack the them up to absurd levels. We're talking almost $40 for one measly screw.
Maybe some of the money really goes to black projects.

THE LEGION HAS GUNS. RANK AND FILE DON'T USE THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE CANNON FODDER.

THE NCR IS INCOMPETENT TO THE POINT OF BREAKING THEIR OWN POWER ARMOR.

THE LEGION WILLINGLY USES SCORCHED EARTH AND GUERILLA TACTICS TO BLEED NCR DEFENSES DRY

THE NCR DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO COMMUNICATE AND FIGHT A PROPER WAR AND ENDS UP WITH CRIPPLED DEFENSIVE TACTICS

THE LEGION HAS A NEAR INFINITE RESERVE OF TROOPS COMING FROM BACK EAST

THE NCR IS HAVING RECRUITMENT PROBLEMS TO THE POINT THAT NEW VEGAS ITSELF IS A PROPAGANDA RING

LEGION CURRENCY IS STRONG IN THE AREAS THAT WILL ACCEPT IT DUE TO ECONOMIC SUPERIORITY IN THE EAST

NCR DOLLARS ARE DEFLATING IN VALUE DUE TO WEAKENING WATER-BASED ECONOMY

PLAY THE GAME BEFORE YOU POST RETARD SHIT

>>389719454
That's specifically just the Rangers. The Rangers are damn good, but they're not 420 noscoping the Legion masses singlehandedly good.

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Caeser (Edward Sallow)
Level 30
Neutral
6 ST
5 PE
6 EN
4 CH
4 IN
5 AG
5 LK

General Oliver (Lee Oliver)
Level 50 (DLC Scaling)
Neutral
5 ST
7 PE
5 EN
8 CH
5 IN
5 AG
5 LK

Mr. House (Robert House)
Level 2
Neutral
1 ST
10 PE
10 EN
1 CH
5 IN
5 AG
10 LK

Courier (Courier 6)
Level 50
Good
10 ST
10 PE
10 EN
10 CH
10 IN
10 AG
10 LK

Hmm...

>football jocks even in the wastes
Lol ncr are virgin nerds

>>389719934
every centurion is a master battle commander and is capable of leading just as effectively as caesar himself. you can kill caesar whenever you want and you still have to fight Legion at the end. they have the infrastructure to last for at least a decade after caesar's death, most likely longer because of their reserves in Arizona.

>>389720352
but muh democracy

>>389719213
The NCR flat out doesn't know how to use most of what it's got. That's why groups like the Gun Runners, Boomers and Brotherhood fucking terrify them.
I mean christ they can barely even set up Service-level weapons production factories on their own, and their idea of using Power Armor is to gut the servos and wear it like medieval plate.

This is why Caesar values self-reliance so much, and why Legionaires at low rank aren't issued serious kit. You have to learn to crawl before you can march.

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>>389720514
>SPECIAL is canon
>wasting all those perks for that much Intense Training

>>389720524
>they have the infrastructure to last for at least a decade after caesar's death, most likely longer because of their reserves in Arizona.
Caesar's entire game is getting the Legion lands to a point where the infrastructure will outlast him. Yeah the Legion has had a great start, but nobody has the drive to run it but Caesar, and the few who might are batshit fucking crazy like Lanius.

>>389718680
there's nothing 50s about the NCR military at all they have power armor and energy weapons

>>389720782
Yeah well OP is a retard who forgot the world ended in 2070 in Fallout. The 50s was just the point of technological divergence.

>>389720352
>THE LEGION HAS GUNS. RANK AND FILE DON'T USE THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE CANNON FODDER.
They use them if they can get their hands on them.
>THE NCR IS INCOMPETENT TO THE POINT OF BREAKING THEIR OWN POWER ARMOR.
Since apparently raiders can jury rig suits of power armor now, yeah, I guess this is canon now.

>THE NCR DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO COMMUNICATE AND FIGHT A PROPER WAR AND ENDS UP WITH CRIPPLED DEFENSIVE TACTICS
They have the knowledge, but not the collective will to do so.

>THE NCR IS HAVING RECRUITMENT PROBLEMS TO THE POINT THAT NEW VEGAS ITSELF IS A PROPAGANDA RING
>Troopers are volunteer and conscripted forces in the NCR's military. They vary widely in devotion, experience, and even in basic equipment. What they lack in consistency they make up for in numbers.

>LEGION CURRENCY IS STRONG IN THE AREAS THAT WILL ACCEPT IT DUE TO ECONOMIC SUPERIORITY IN THE EAST
The eastern traders just have more confidence in the security of legion backed wealth. The NCR probably has a larger and more diverse economy.

>NCR DOLLARS ARE DEFLATING IN VALUE DUE TO WEAKENING WATER-BASED ECONOMY
The market will adapt eventually. The brotherhood destroyed their gold reserves.

>>389712329
Lol, no, you're just an idiot.

>>389720865
>The 50s was just the point of technological divergence.
not even that, its just an aesthetic choice

>>389720927
I'm not exactly sure what the point of this post is.

>>389720514
>House with 10 EN
>relies on life support to live
something's not right here

>>389720763
the praetorians have the drive and the devotion to protect their way of life. the centurions have the brains to keep it from falling to pieces.

>>389720524
*Bombs Legate camp*

>>389720927
Jesus, you're a retard.

>>389712329
I see you didn't even play the fucking game. Now fuck off!

Fallout 4 is better, go back to red.dit obsidiots.

>>389719329
Lmao what?
A B-29 would not fly low enough that HMGs would be an issue nor could small arms fire even remotely be an issue to the plane. Even if the Boomers were to do something retarded and try to strafe with non existent weapons one can only assume that in the Fallout universe planes were fitted with nuclear what the fuck ever armor making them highly resistant to the weapons being fielded by the Chinese.

>>389721121
This.

>>389720352
>THE NCR IS INCOMPETENT TO THE POINT OF BREAKING THEIR OWN POWER ARMOR
they intentionally broke it, since they didn't have the training or knowledge to use them properly, so they ripped out all the servos and shit to just turn it into fancy and heavy as fuck suits of armour that their troops could actually use
but since bethesda got rid of power armour training being a thing required to use it I guess the NCR must have just been using broken power armour that they recovered from former brotherhood bunkers since the brotherhood would have kept the good stuff and broken anything they left behind so that the NCR could not use it

>>389720865
>2070
>no AA-12s, MP5s, G36s, etc.

>NCR takes a big fat dump on the brotherhood
>can't deal with a group of raiders high on drugs

>>389721279
>but since bethesda got rid of power armour training being a thing required to use it
No, that doesn't retcon the actual canon.

>>389721028
Clarifying what you suggest is abject incompetence when their are mitigating factors to the NCRs circumstances.

>>389713535
I looked it up on Goolag and can't find anything about mujadeen using musketz in the soviet-afghan war. Are you thinking of the anglo-afghan war?

>>389721354
Woah....... Really makes you think....

>>389721095
no you

>>389720927
>They use them if they can get their hands on them
No, they explicitly cannot. Legionaires state this multiple times, and Caesar himself alludes to the philosophy behind it
>Since apparently raiders can jury rig suits of power armor now, yeah, I guess this is canon now
No you mongoloid, NCR Power Armor has its servos ripped out in New Vegas and does not function as Power Armor, just very heavy armor. Some NCR leaders even talk about how they salvaged it from the skirmish with the Brotherhood but couldn't use it.
>They have the knowledge, but not the collective will to do so
Its a bit if both, but effectively they can't do it.
>>Troopers are volunteer and conscripted forces in the NCR's military. They vary widely in devotion, experience, and even in basic equipment. What they lack in consistency they make up for in numbers.
Most of them are back east, the NCR's modus operandi is to recruit from established areas close to the front and ship people up that way rather than using the trains. Multiple NCR in Vegas talk about how the place has been opened up to recruits as a strategic morale-booster and propaganda lynchpin.
>The eastern traders just have more confidence in the security of legion backed wealth. The NCR probably has a larger and more diverse economy.
No, it is flat out stated in-game that Waterbacks are devaluing because of the growing availability of grassroots water and because the NCR cannot protect their merchant traders without cucking their business (like the third town in New Vegas is entirely dedicated to this concept, come on man)
>The market will adapt eventually. The brotherhood destroyed their gold reserves.
NCR dollars were never on a Gold Standard, the bullion is just for government spending use, not the actual basis of the currency. You can't and never could trade NCR dollars for their value in Gold, and why the fuck would you want to?

Did you even play the game anon? You're literally wrong on all but 1 point.

>>389712329
>bomb the shit out of Fortification Hill?
I mean, they literally do if you team up with the boomers. or if you repair the artillery gun. otherwise the hill is just set up to be incredibly hard to assault in an area where the legion has almost full control of

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>>389712329
>Why don't they go full "It ain't me" and bomb the shit out of Fortification Hill?
you can bomb them at hoover dam :^)

>>389721051
Not without Caesar or some other leader to act as the focal point of that ambition. Caesar's entire character motivation is based on that inevitability.

>>389721025
No, in Big MT iirc there's references to the potential development of Transistors, something that never happened in Fallout. Everything electronic runs on vaccuum tubes and other early components.

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Always makes me "hmm."
See how much land you cover in FO: Tactics.

>>389712329
>Romans were actually WINNING, not in any of my games.
Legion fags get out REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>389713745
It has some good ideas but Christ does it ever drop all the balls thrown its way.

>>389721641
Romans are winning when you show up in New Vegas

>>389721737
Once I show they lose It doesn't matter anymore.

>>389721354
When you do the brotherhood quest where you talk to the scouts they draw particular emphasis to their surprise at this fact. Just goes to show how organization>tech. Legion reps roman bos reps medieval. Medieval tech was superior but without the culture and leadership to use it, its a shithole compared to rome.
>>389712329
>conscripts who have never shot a gun at anything scarier than a raider and wants nothing more than a paycheck and trip home
>fighting against bloodthirsty veterans trained from birth who literally want nothing more than to spill the blood of his enemies in the name of his literal god-emperor

>>389712890
Fuck off Joshua

>>389721558
still wonder how they managed to script that

its pretty out of the norm of what the shitty fallout engine could do

>>389722392
It's actually an NPC wearing the plane on their head. The "bombs" are just them shooting a grenade machinegun downwards

>>389721484
>No you mongoloid...
I'm aware that they've done this. They noted that they couldn't figure out how to restore them, so they used them as heavy armor. Since raiders and gangs on the east coast can refurbish suits, new canon suggests discord in lore or NCR incompetence.

>>389721484
>Most of them are back east...
Mr. House, in the treaty he made with the NCR literally made it illegal for the NCR to disallow troops from visiting the strip. Strategic and moral purposes aside, they'd be going their anyway and using it as a selling point is an aside their being in adherence with the terms of the treaty.

>No, they explicitly cannot...
Can you sauce me on lines that state they can't under any circumstances? I'm doing a new playthrough right now after years away from the game and I recall Caeser explaining his philosophy behind it, but recalled it effectively meaning they just weren't equipped with them or expected to fight with them.

>No, it's flat out...
>During the conflict with the Brotherhood the Republic's gold reserves were destroyed by Brotherhood raids to the point where new gold coins could not be minted and paper money could not be properly backed with gold. NCR citizens panicked and rushed to reclaim the listed face value of currency from NCR's remaining gold reserves. Since the NCR was unable to realize these withdrawals, particularly towards the frontier, faith in their currency considerably dropped. To protect against actual economic collapse, the NCR government abandoned the gold standard and established fiat currency, not payable in specie.[19] Since then many wastelanders lost faith in it as a medium of worth, both as a result of it not being backed by anything but the government's word and the inevitable inflation
^but you could call this old history at this point
I wasn't sure how much time passed between this and the institution of water-backed currency.

>>389722541
I mean it wouldn't surprise me, but proofs?

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>>389722591
[Speech 48%]You can trust me anon. I built New Vegas from the ground up. Just me, no one else.

>>389722689
[Success]

Oh okay, thank you kind anon.

>>389713684
I didn't know Pete Hines browsed /v/

>>389720514
Why wouldn't caesar have higher INT? Have you ever talked to him?

NCR grunts are basically civilians with a gun, their training is fucking awful

>>389723591
he read a couple books once and went completely with those ideas forever after, never trying to learn anything new

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>>389722689
Anon-kun, buy Skyrim

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>>389713535
>Mujahideen mainly fielded muskets
>Vietcong mainly fielded bolt-actions
I call total bullshit on the Mujahideen claim, unless you're talking about fucking Jezails in use against the British in the late 19th century. Sure they weren't well equipped but basically all footage I've seen of the Soviet war in Afghanistan shows the afghans runing around with AKMs and shit. Pakistan was helping them get their Stingers, they could probably also spare a few rifles.
And the Vietcong? Sure the Mosin was pretty popular but I doubt it equipped the majority of them. I'd argue it was the most popular gun but the majority had either an SKS or an AK derivative from either the Soviets themselves or China.

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>>389721279
Where does the idea of PA training come from anyways if not Fallout 3? Fallout 1 has you read a book on how to repair the armour I guess, while Fallout 2 just throws it on top of you. They never explicitly mention they need trainign to use it in the original games, do they? Or did I actually miss something?

>>389724667
>They never explicitly mention they need training to use it in the original games, do they?
>literally need training in the original games to wear PA
So yes

>>389724726
>Fallout 1
>Go to glow and retrieve holotape
>have high repair
>repair PA
>plop it on
>sorted

>Fallout 2
>10 CHA
>Savescum to Enclave outpost
>Sweet-talk robe guy
>go inside
>talk to Sarge
>open 3rd locker
>plop on PA
>sorted
You literally don't need training.

>>389724892
>>389724726
The point of the power armor servos is that it does the job for you. You don't need training to use it - that was a Fallout 3 retcon that Bethesda made so that the player couldn't use power armor as soon as they killed a BoS and the game retained some sort of progression. Power armor is handed out like candy in F3 and every npc drops their armor when they die.

New Vegas and Obsidian were just working with what they were given - that it's canon that power armor needs training now.

Then Bethesda with F4 did a 180 and it doesn't need it anymore.

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>House is the best! He can fly to space in a few years I believe it!
>can't even rule The Strip well
>Freeside is pretty much a black ghetto

>>389725954
He can't fly to space in a few years
On his own
He needs you, Anon. He needs you and he needs your belief. Believe in him.

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>Getting ready to take on Caesar's Fort
>pack grenade launchers, missile launchers, plasma grenades, shit I haven't used for the entire game
>Bring Boone
>Get to Cottonwood Cove
>Start blasting this as I light the entire fortress ablaze https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKJDAVvs_JA
>Have the best time I've ever had playing this game
Would recommend on any playthrough

>>389713745
It's shit.
Premise was great, but all the potential was wasted; no suspense in background Earth politics, the Empire is not a threat whatsoever so there's no challenge in battles either. There's not even enough modern army anihilating Romans either (the only thing the show had going for it), so harem is more or less all that's left.

>>389728196
That does sound amazing.

>>389725954
>Freeside is pretty much a black ghetto
Are you implying that House cares? He could sort it out if he wanted to, there is just no benefit to doing so.