>get pic related running on cemu >it actually is 10/10

and fuck shormpft

>>389676639
Agreed. Playing at 4k 30 fps is truly the GOTY experience

Pubg still GOTY. Stay mad.

Real talk, how many glitches and work-arounds do you have to live with? I'm wondering if I should bother downloading it now or wait for later CEMU releases.

>>389676996
I'm running it at 1080p at around 25-35 fps, 60 inside shrines. Haven't had a single game breaking bug yet and I've already put about 8 hours into it. Had some problems with the shadows tho. Only using an i5 7600, 380x4gb and 16gb DDR4 ram

This might have been the best terrain traversal exploring game ever made, but everything else about it was mundane, average, or repetitive.

>>389676871
Here's a pity (you). Put more effort into your bait next time, or else you won't get any replies.

>>389677374
Yeah nah you're a cunt

>>389676639
uses way too much ram on my end, any solution?

>>389676639
Everyone knows it already except for bitter poorfag Argentinians

Just wait till you play Knack 2, that's a real masta piece.

>>389676639

this game sucks, and is the worst Zelda of the decade. Even a Link Between Worlds shits all over this garbage.

>>389677374
So much this.

>>389676639
played through it on wii u and i agree
i disagree with fuck horizon though, but also 100% agree with fuck automata. horizon is still a masterpiece even though it cant even compete with botw, though that should just say how fucking amazing botw is
>>389677374
no one ever explains this correctly
its always
>lol copy paste korok seeds and copy paste shrines
without actually knowing why people hate things like that and how botw fixes them. the "mundane average or repetitive" things are insanely polished and really clever
>>389676871
the game is in early access. not out yet.

>>389676639
Once you play over 30 hours you'll understand

>>389676639
hey man that hot wheels xpac was pretty GOAT

>>389678274
Whoa sonny dial back on that shit taste

FUCK horizon, FUCK sony, and FUCK drumpf

>>389678380
Already at 60 hours, just completed main quest. Even so 30 hours is more than enough for a zelda game, right? I emulated TPHD before this and clocked in at below 20hours

Knack 2 is the game of the decade, not this nintendo trash heap of a game.

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>>389676668

>>389677374
nope, botw is great because it makes it work better than any open world before (IE ? """Points of Interest""")

Morrowind is still the goat open world though

>>389677374
Pretty much this, OP is a tasteless faggot.

>>389678529
>>389678149
Knack """jokes""""" are never funny and I like those fucking games

>>389677291
how do you get 60fps when the game's engine only creates 30fps? does the game run at double speed in shrines? I never understood this, it's almost as if piratefags are just shitposting because they don't actually have any clue what they're talking about

/v/ will never recover.

>>389678427

your taste is horrible if you like this generic open world trash. Go back to your Ubisoft games faggot.

>>389676639
Why do Nintendo fans pretend to be PC users?
I bet you haven't even played the Witcher 3, which is immensely better and doesn't rely on heavy handed advertising, nostalgia, or brand.

>>389678598

More like you are the tasteless faggot here

>>389678380
>>389678524
Time invested is a bad measurement, especially with open world shit. They inflate playtime by spreading everything miles apart.

>>389678087
anyone?

>>389678697
You taste is also horrible if you dislike Botw. Go back to your linear cinematic """experiences"""

>>389678704
>witcher 3
>no nostalgia, advertising and brand
Nigga the entire game is based around a continued character from Witcher 1

>>389678274

i bought a 3DS just for ALBW, emulated BOTW for free, and i still disagree with you

>>389678581
Makes what work? There's next to no meaningful content. It still gives quest markers and handholds, its just you never have to do any of it because they game is literally pieced out between shitty shrines across the entire area with the same reward, solved using the same gadgets you got 4 hours into the game.

This is nothing short of an early access game with cool world visual design, but most of the time you are just holding forward and spending 15 minutes climbing a mountain for a fucking korok seed you didn't want.

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i3 750ti here and it actually fucking works. 30fps most of the time too. It does freeze briefly though, I clearly don't have enough of something.

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>>389678662
The game runs like absolute shit on cemu. All the videos you see on Youtube are cherry picked footage between crashes and running on very high-end hardward. Emulation is ALWAYS shit.

>>389678704
>pretend
Why would they?
>Witcher 3
Played it, its okay. The story never clicked with me and being a narrative heavy game that's a huge fuckin dent in my enjoyment. Is also buggy as fuck but maybe it works on your machine :^)

>>389678648
So did you get Knack 2? It's amazing isn't it?

>>389678830
Are you suggesting the Witcher EVER had a big following? Or nearly as big as Zelda which has been nostalgia pandering since OoT?

Fuck off. Nintendo is purely a brand company, not a quality one.

>>389678891

it's babies first Skyrim for Switch faggots who couldn't figure out how to build a PC.

>>389678904
Ummm, sweetie...

https://www.reddit.com/r/cemu/comments/6ye7oi/dynamic_speed_for_all/

>>389678904
>mobileposter
>idiot

really makes you think

>>389678932
>Is also buggy as fuck
No it isn't.

>The story never clicked with me
Fair enough, it still has better combat, quest design, unique items, character building, music, visuals and much more than BOTW. Maybe good games just aren't for you, you just prefer mindless physics puzzles for the same spirit orbs everytime.

>>389676639
>get pic related running on cemu
>it actually is 10/10 GOTY
>but Nintendo won't make anymore since people don't buy it
Pcbros logic.
Buy it faggot if you want more, that's how it works.
I understand trying a game on pc, I did that a lot, but if I like it I buy it.

>>389678830
>all linear games are bad
Super Mario Bros 1, 2 and 3 confirmed as linear cinematic experiences.

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>>389678662
a plugin just recently came out that fixes stability and allows you to reach a higher FPS. I'm not shitposting.
>>389678704
I also have a ps4 and a wii u. Fuck off retard.

>>389678904
Spotted the retarded Nintendo fanboy.
Emulation for a ton of platforms is near perfect. Learn to tweak.

>>389678791
Get a better PC or wait for them to optimize their garbage emulator. CEMU works but runs famously bad. Near top end rigs can barely manage 30 FPS, and only the best rigs can hit a consistent 60 with the framerate mod.

>>389679085
> it still has better combat
At least make your bait realistic.

>>389679085
I actually disagree with combat and visuals. BotW has a better artstyle and movement that doesn't feel like absolyt shit. Go back to watch more cutscenes when you can't appreciate actual games

>>389678891
(You)

>>389678891
>There's next to no meaningful content.
What does this mean?

>It still gives quest markers and handholds
Yes but it does it right, the map isn't some pollock painting ala Ubisoft

>its just you never have to do any of it because they game is literally pieced out between shitty shrines across the entire area with the same reward
Why are the shrines shitty?

>solved using the same gadgets you got 4 hours into the game.
umm not exactly, given it takes some fucking around with to learn to do shit like the boomerang lightning trick, but for Zelda it's one of the best combat systems yet.

>This is nothing short of an early access game
I felt it was pretty polished

>a fucking korok seed you didn't want.
As opposed to what?

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>>389679027
Pretending that shit works.

>b-but it's 'PLAYABLE'.

The absolute state of PCfags. Just buy a fucking switch. No need to be mad about it.

Low point of the franchise.

>>389679085
>unique items
Uh no honey. Nothing in the witcher 3 is as unique as the runes or even the fucking rune upgrades

>>389679246
>BOTW
>Removes all of Twlight Princess moves
>Make all weapons have a 3 cycle attack and one jump attack
>Good

Witcher 3 even has ability trees, spells, and potions with unique effects. Boy I sure love slashing away at the ankles of brain dead enemies that hop in place and take 4 hops to even turn toward link. Maybe you should rethink playing games entirely.

>>389679268
Visuals are objectively better in the Witcher 3, sorry kid.

>Movement
>Good
What exactly is good about Zelda movement? The fact that it requires no reactive inputs, or the fact that the game has framerate/framepacing issues when you lock on enemies?

>>389679385
>muh shader cache

>>389679027
>https://www.reddit.com/r/cemu/comments/6ye7oi/dynamic_speed_for_all/
>>389679165
since noone answered on my ram question and i guess that was what kept my fps stuttering desu (i have like 8gig ram and it needs even more?!), ill try this out. thx

>>389677374
Pretty much true, the plot and dialogue is paper thin. The Witcher 3 is the superior open world RPG.

>>389679421
low point of bait

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>>389679385
>lalalalala can't hear yoooouuu
Nintendo fans are always a riot.

>>389678904
that dude was using vsync. wouldnt use fps patch, and is in general a retard that doesn't know what the fuck he is doing.

>>389679452
There's more to combat than what you're giving BOTW credit for, don't forget TP was scripted corridorshit

>>389679429
Lmao, fucking please. Play the games before you speak of them.

>>389679452
>what exactly is good
Walking around doesn't feel like shit
Swinging your sword doesn't make your character lock in a long animation
A horse that isn't buggy as fuck
A way to move around faster than a fucking horse
>no reactive inputs
That's actually false
>objectively better
Sorry kid, it's not

>>389679505
>Witcher 3 or Zelda
>RPGs
Zelda is an action/adventure game and Witcher 3 is an interactive storybook, an adventure game with awful combat and some extremely light RPG elements.

>>389679385

You can just pirate this shitty ass game on the Wii U and play it. LOL at the faggots who spent money on the Switch meme machine for a shitty exploration game.

>>389679640
Why don't you do it first? What do you want, yet another armour set?

>>389679385
>buy a $300-400 console to play one game because i'm tech illiterate
"No."

>>389679505
The dialogue is actually great and well written, plot is serviceable

>>389678662
umm.. have you ever heard about framerate bit delay-encapsulation? didn't think so, don't open your mouth about stuff you don't know anything about

>>389679742
>Paying for a car because you're too stupid to just steal one
"No."

>>389679742
you make it sound like CEMU's any cheaper

>>389679452
>boy I sure love slashing at the ankles of braindead enemies
But you like the witcher 3 don't you?

>>389679363
There's two fucking things you can get in the game. both amount to useless upgrades that never really provide any character building, new gadgets, or anything meaningful to change the pacing in the game. Its literally one of two awards, with armor that have basic changes that offer nothing but a "faster" means of climbing, killing, whatever.

No, it does it just the same, it doesnt give as much, but it gives plenty.

Physics puzzles are basic and samey. You start with the tools youve had the entire game; if you are really that retarded to get stuck on the same concepts repeated over and over, you should see a doctor.

> to learn to do shit like the boomerang lightning trick,
What the fuck are you talking about? GImmicks aren't combat. You don't use this shit beyond observing the engine.
Do you take ice cubes in MGS2 and place them to make guard fall everytime? Or watch them melt? No you fucking moron. A gimmick is a gimmick, its an inconvenience at best for dispatching an enemy.

>I felt it was pretty polished
You haven't played many EA games then.

>As opposed to what?
Literally actual content.

Anybody else playing Knack 2 rn? I can't believe they actually did it!

>>389679674
>People claim the Witcher 3 has awful combat while praising BOTW combat

You fucking Switch fanboys are literally braindead. I want to make webms comparing the games mechanics now, you guys are retarded as fuck.

>>389679980
>There's two fucking things you can get in the game.
a game isn't as good as the amount of things it gives out, also that's not exactly """true""". Given you were wrong right out of the gate i see no reason to continue on with your post and implore you to do better.

>>389679452
Movement in W3 is predicated by little realistic animations, the controls are not responsive. Zelda's controls are. You press the stick forward, Link just moves forward, you don't have to watch him lurch around with half a second worth of delay because the game is trying to look realistic like you doing W3 and many other western games that strive for realism.

Nothing breaks immersion more quickly and easily than reminding the layer they're playing a game, and unresponsive controls do that immediately, regardless of how great the visuals and presentation are.

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>>389679701
>PCfags are so used to play buggy, unstable builds of every game, they think cemu is acceptable.

>>389679735
I beat both games, what did I say that was wrong?

>>389679919
Witcher 3 has actual combat mechanics with enemies that pose a threat, as opposed to Zelda where every enemy, even bosses, are minor inconveniences that are mostly reskins.

>>389680121
Pretty much every Zelda game has better combat than Witcher, sweetie.

>>389680121
Witcher has garbage gameplay, dude.

>>389680159
>Movement in W3 is predicated by little realistic animations
MGSV made this work

>>389679980
>2 fucking things
>useless upgrades
Except you are wrong. You do get new gadgets throughout the game, and the combat armour and climbing armor do affect pacing, as well as the hearts and stamina upgrade
>same concepts
Except the same concept applied in different ways can give many different results
>it does it just the same
No it doesn't. There is no trail leading to it. You don't constantly see the marker in the overworld
>gimmicks aren't combat
But they literally are which is used as a more effective way as opposed to normal combat
>you haven't played many EA games then
Have you?
>literally actual content
It is present though, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it doesn't exist

>>389680156
>a game isn't as good as the amount of things it gives out
But you realize all that BOTW gives out is the same repetitive concept of shrines with similar puzzles, the same reward system, and literally the same texture sets over and over again. It has a LOT of it, but its never well crafted content.

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>>389680230
>Witcher 3 has actual combat mechanics

>>389680230
>Witcher 3 has actual combat mechanics
lol

>>389680230
>enemies that pose a threat
HAHAHAAHA really? After you get Quen? An spam potions?

I can't believe witcher 3 fanboys don't even know how to play their game

>>389680159
Maybe you should play on a non-garbage PC. The controls are fine.

>>389680264
Nope. Especially not BOTW. Moreso when you need actual good enemies for the combat to even feel good in the first place.

3 fucking weapon swing cycles. Its trash.

>>389680283
Again, no.

>>389680283
MGSV isn't western though
>>389680334
>"Well crafted" content is a checklist of items to collect
Yup, you grew up with an Xbox 360.

>>389680334
>I don't like it=not well crafted
lol

>game is playable on PC
>fanbase which the game was originally in: THE GAME SUCKS NOW
every time

>>389680334
>shrines with similar puzzles
???

The puzzle shrines are anything but similar. The combat shrines would've been a much more appropriate thing to use in this argument.

>>389680453
>controls are fine
So fine that the devs have to implement an alternative control options and even so that it feels like absolute shit
>3 fucking weapon swing cycles
Better than twirling your sword for 2 fucking seconds before it even connects.

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>>389676996
I've played about 30 hours, in that time it's crashed twice, and a couple of times I got some slowdowns that disappeared after restarting the emulator (I'm not sure but I think they may have been related to the camera and taking pictures.) Some of the gyro shrines are also a bit of a pain.

That's it. Everything else works perfectly and I'm getting constant 30fps in 4K with high-res shadows on a 4.3Ghz i5 and GTX970.

>>389680453
>Maybe you should play on a non-garbage PC
This has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, you simpering shitwit.

Geralt lurching around with a little animation every time I want him to move because its more realistic has absolutely nothing at all to do with the hardware the game is running on, you fucking moron. Western games do this shit all the time, replace responsive controls with little contextual animations because responsive controls look too "video gamey" and they have to sell 10 million copies to casuals and normies to break even.

>>389680453
>actual good enemies
That doesn't exist in the witcher either

>>389680501

this game has always sucked balls since March. Recolored skin palette boss fights, shit dungeons, repetitive shrine quests, boring NPCs.

the only thing passable about it is the decent combat, that finally improved over OoT. Congrats, but the rest of your game is shit tier bad.

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>>389676639
>CEMU

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This could be the 2nd 500+ post BotW thread I've been in today. Why can't /v/ just get over it?

>>389680334
>similar puzzles
wrong

>the same reward system
Is XCOM a bad game?

>literally the same texture sets over and over again
Portability lol

Is someone really trying to defend the shit movement of the witcher 3? Pretty sure everyone agrees that is a huge flaw, along with the red lines and constant speaking to yourself

>>389680304
>You do get new gadgets throughout the game
Such as?

The armor is basic stat increases that have no direct effect on improving your gameplay experience. It doesn't had nothing but minuscule boosts that you don't even need.
That's all you get, hearts and fucking stamina.

>Except the same concept applied in different ways can give many different results
No it isn't, it even repeats a lot of concepts, like the maze shrines and the combat ones.

>No it doesn't. There is no trail leading to it.
Except that's not true. Almost every quest has markers associated with it, towers are clearly visible, and again, shrines are the entire game and are so diluted never even finding them all doesn't feel "bad" or "wrong" it just feels tedious.

>But they literally are which is used as a more effective way as opposed to normal combat
Waiting for lightning strikes and throwing a weapon that will break is more convenient and effective than just slashing a monster? Are you fucking retarded?

>It is present though,
No, it isn't. Its a large, vast, empty area where you need to make your own fun because the developers can't be assed to make good paced content that offers unique experiences for the player.

>>389680652
need more RAM.
gyro shrines are fun as fuck. get an old andriod phone and set up motion controls.

>>389680697
This is some really good bait, but the recoloured boss fights and boring NPCs reveal it too early

9/10 you can do better

>>389676639
Can anyone post benchmarks for BotW on CemU?

>>389679268
I can't speak for The Witcher 3 since I haven't played it but BotW's movement feels really stiff if you've played enough action games.

>>389680453
Yes, every single one. Things like spacing actually matter, for example, and BOTW has some of the most accurate hitboxes I've seen to date.

>>389680836
>Such as?
I don't know the tablet runes for starters kek

>>389676996
>anons are actually defending pubg
This board has fallen

>>389680836
>The armor is basic stat increases that have no direct effect on improving your gameplay experience
Now you're just flat-out stating things that aren't true.

>>389680854
just post your specs.

>>389680453
Tell me again what part of Witcher 3 has you being shot at by lightning arrows as you try to platform across a lake? Or has you fighting a horde of enemies on a steep incline while volcanic rocks rain down from the sky? Or has you climbing a giant castle that is patrolled by tons of robots that target you and shoot explosive blasts that kill you in nearly one shot if you don't deflect them?

>OOT was my first favourite game ever
>majora's mask was my second
>wind waker my third
>bought a wii u for BOTW
>got 8 hours in and I'm sick of it
it was pretty exciting at first but it's such a tedious game

>>389680378
>>389680397

Prove me wrong. There is more strategy on death march than anything in Zelda, that has a literally easy to execute parry QTE that's spammable.

>>389680463
Where did I say "checklist"? Unique and valuable content is just that; something where you find yourself in new areas, new circumstance, fighting new enemies, finding new items, getting new abilities, and effecting the game world. None of this is present to any significant degree in Zelda.

It has a shoehorned narrative that's told worse than most Tales games.

>>389680836
>such as?
Stasis+ being the prime example
>no direct effect
Except boosts are the most direct form ever
>no it isn't
I thought we were talking about puzzle shrines? Which are like half the shrines?
>except that's not true
Except it is objectively true. There is no "witcher senses" equivalent in the game
>waiting for strikes
Who the fuck waits? You use it when it is there, and it rains often. Point being, it is not a gimmick. Also, ranged attacks are more convenient and effective than just slashing as a whole
>vast, empty area
That's wrong though

>>389680975
>got 8 hours
>Already sick of it

this is b8

>>389680964
I am planning on buying a new rig soon and will want to know if I can play it well.

Will probably get a gtx 1060 and 8 gb ram

>>389680975
you didn't happen to be a child when you first played those children's video games hm?

>>389680975

yea it doesn't get any better, trust me. I even finished it, and regretted my time spent completing all the shrines.

>>389680616
Nope, controls were always fine, having options is not a bad thing. Just like how BOTW didn't have the option to bind jump and sprint close to eachother on the button pad.

Again, play the Witcher 3, maybe you can learn the combat.

>>389678345
It's becuase a majority of poeple that criticize the game are sonygroes that have not or hardly played it.

>>389680967
BotW is better than /v/ thinks.

>>389680992
>stategy
You mean by spamming more potions, and spamming quen even more than before
>shoehorned narrative told worse than new tales games
Kind of like the story in the witcher 3 lmao

>>389680716
>series that is beloved by half of /v/ and almost all normies
>contains multiple games considered serious contenders for GOAT
>BOTW (hopefully) marks a return to form after an irredeemable decade of shit
it's a real head scratcher

>>389681028
>Except it is objectively true. There is no "witcher senses" equivalent in the game
This faggot >>389680836 was seriously complaining about how solid the world design was lol.

>>389680692
Except it does. They even have lore, weaknesses, unique attacks, unique ways of fighting and approaching them. Zelda has nothing but gobllin reskins, a few scattered lynels which are easy as fuck, and some world bosses that stand in place.

>>389681104
>controls were fine
Hah! Even the devs acknowledged the shit movement and you don't?

>>389680121
Im with you. The combat in Zelda has never been good. It has no depth. In reality, its almost like a primitive dark souls. They both are really similar if you think about it. Lock on target, strafe around opponent, dodge attacks, then spam your attack button that does no combos or anything.

>>389680725
X-Com is a lot better than BOTW, in multiple ways than one.

>>389680838
I've got 16GB but yeah, now that I think about it that might have been that Nvidia shader cache bug eating all the RAM. Still it seemed to only happen after running around taking tons of pictures for the compendium.

Didn't know you could use a phone for the gyro stuff, how would you do that?

It isn't.

>>389681185
>lore
A short paragraph also present in botw
>unique attacks
Just like in botw
>unique ways of fighting and approaching
You mean by spamming more potions?

Also nice incorrect info

>>389680938
>>389680959
The rune upgrades are the same fucking gadget.

>>389681028
I like how you bring up "it rains often" as an excuse for a gimmick.

Also hilarious how raining also prevents you from climbing literally halting any progress for x amount of minutes because you can't do shit.

>>389678345
>the "mundane average or repetitive" things are insanely polished and really clever

How are the korok seeds and shrines "insanely polished and really clever"? There's nothing polished or clever about the blessing shrines or tests of strength. There's nothing polished or clever about having 900 collectibles that involve doing the same handful of puzzles over and over, and getting a literal golden turd if you're autistic enough to do them all. It's filler content. 3D Zelda was never totally free of filler but BotW puts it front and center.

>>389681375
You can go around or sleep.

>>389680975
Open world games aren't designed for the player to actually explore everything, because it becomes immediately obvious how shallow the game really is, so don't explore unless you have to and rush the Divine Beasts. You'll have more fun that way, trust me.

>>389681375
>The rune upgrades are the same fucking gadget.
not from a gameplay standpoint

>>389681375
>same fucking gadget
Wrong, but you alread know it
>how raining prevents you from climbing and halting progress
Oh wait, I forgot I was talking to a retard. You know you can find another way around when raining huh? Or do something else?

>>389681085
get 16gb

>>389676639
nice graphics. story was a real wower too

>>389681238
What does witcher 3 have in the way of combos, dodge spam attack and using quen is all you need to breeze through that game on death match. BotWs combat is also shit but atleast it has some Weapon variety

>>389681085
You need more RAM for Cemu, get 16GB, also CPU is everything with emulation, 4Ghz is the absolute minimum.

>>389681085
post specs of new system.
Cemu is CPU bound.
the 1060 should be ok, 8GB of ram is meh. Cemu, due to a nvida driver bug chews the RAM up like crazy. If you can fit it in your budget, get an SSD.

>>389681271
16GB should be ok. that bug isnt going away anytime soon. Cemu devs contacted nvidia in like march/april about it and nothing yet.
it's fucking nice using a phone for gyro. heres a vid. easiest way to explain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfUwUozkkVg

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>>389681375
Armor adds more than defense you shit-spewing mongoloid.

>>389681450

Makes a lot of sense actually.

>>389681395
>korok seed bitching
i seriously can't comprehend this. Actively searching for them is an optional and completely avoidable part of the game. I found like ~20 of them just playing the game.

What does it mean that there's always a concentrated effort to pirate Nintendo games but not Sony's?

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People call it open world done right, but I don't see it at all. It has all the shortcomings I'd expect from a Ubisoft title and not much of what I enjoy in Zelda games. I hate the direction it took and it really is one of my least favorite games in the series.

>>389681395
>nothing polished or clever about blessing shrines
Except the puzzle connected to them outside its. Strength shrines are bull but there are twenty of them in total, and each archetype is repeated only like four times
>nothing polished or clever
Rewarding players who wander into random areas

>>389680975
This

>starting area is called The Great Plateau
>the game never gets better from there

Exercising ingenuity to forage your path, making clever use of kinesis/axes/deku leaves as you saw fit to advance in your journey, that was all incredible. Then the game hands you all your abilities on a platter and it's pure tedium from there.

>>389681636
People buy PS4's because they have lots of good games, few people want to buy a switch for one good game.

>>389677291
>Only using an i5 7600, 380x4gb and 16gb DDR4 ram
>>>>>>>>only

>>389680967
Why does Witcher 3 need these particular moments to be good exactly?
It has many many more memorable and great moments than BOTW can ever hope to have.

When in BOTW do you fight a monk, while standing on a lake, where a legendary sword is beneath the surface?
When in BOTW do you investigate where a genie is and find half a ship stranded atop a mountain, only to discover the ship was torn in half and proceed to fight him and seal him away?

Where in BOTW do you go into a painting to face a twisted world created by a dead wife, in order to put her to rest?

Each and every one of these is more compelling and interesting than BOTW ever is, and is accompanied by PROGRESSION in character development, be it stats, story, combat abilities, and world changes.

>>389681395
The cleverness lies in how they're spread around, meaning it remains more interesting to explore the wilderness...

>>389681640
>not much of what I enjoy in zelda games
Yeah, but that's a good thing imo. If I wanted another zelda game I'll go replay OOT and TP. There's honestly not much they can do with the new formula anymore

>>389681150
You can't spam Quen for one.

The story in the Witcher 3 is better than anything ever in a Zelda game, sorry to break it to you.

>>389681375
>Also hilarious how raining also prevents you from climbing
Except it doesn't, you can climb a shot distance, jump, slide down, repeat and you gain ground and can keep climbing. It just requires more stamina.

You keep saying things that are 100% false, why are you shitposting?

>>389681640

It's just ubisoft and skyrim faggots who are in love with Zelda now. I'm convinced they were never fans of the series.

>>389681754
You should have just replayed Skyrim instead of buying BotW.

>>389681669
But the plateau is the worst part of the entire game

>>389680967
lmao it's like listening to a child

>>389681640
no it corrects everything Ubisoft does wrong and if you can't see that then you're blind

>>389681569
>On death match
Here, how about you post a video of you playing it with a water tag on the capture, and prove you can do what you say.

BOTW has 3 fucking weapon melee types, and they all have 3 swing cycles. Seriously?

>>389681617
>armor
>Worth bringing up when you can spam health items in the pause menu
lmao

>>389681842
nah skyrim is quite different in core mechanics despite memeing.

>>389681834
They're FotM Switch kids pure and simple. They probably never played Skyrim and DEFINITELY never played Zelda 1.

>>389681862
i have ta act like a growed up if i wanna impress mummy!

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I'm not saying BotW is perfect - it's not. But the faults alone are nothing major and always amount to minor trivial nonsense which never overshadow the game.

In the SIX months since release, the closest anyone has got to mentioning an actual bonafide fault was the framerate drops in some areas which has now been mostly patched. Mostly.

Everything else is /v/ desperately trying to pretend that inconsequential nitpicks are actually MAJOR GAME BRAKING FAULTS!

Name one? Seriously, name a GENUINE MAJOR FAULT the game has. And I'm not talking "I don't like the menus!" or "The game gets boring after 100 hours!". Name a REAL fault.

>b-breaking weapons!
>no music!
>the game is shit because I heal myself!
>Ubishit towers!
>Divine beasts aren't as good as traditional dungeons!
>Shit bosses!

Again, no REAL faults. Just subjective trivial nitpicks which vary from player to player. Nintendo made a game which doesn't please everybody. Shocker.

>>389681636
No one with the knowledge to create these emulators wants Sony's first-party games. Bloodborne is the only thing that will drive PS4 emulation, no one who's into that kind of thing wants to emulate fucking Uncharted or TLOU, they can be watched on YouTube for a near-identical experience.

>>389681954
>you can spam health items
Is this not like the witcher?

>>389681865
No, it really didn't. It uses the same rotten core, only sprinkled with some more attention to detail.

>>389681723
LMAO, what do any of those scenarios have to do with gameplay? They all sound cool from a story perspective, but I know fuckall about what the gameplay of those scenarios are based on your descriptions.

The BotW scenarios listed in the previous post are all describing pure gameplay moments, no bullshit where you have to watch a cutscene or read some dialog to know the context of why the what you are doing is interesting.

>>389681825
>Except it doesn't,
Except it does, as jumping drains stamina really fast. You are more likely to run out of stamina unless you are an autist and have done most of the shrines.

>>389681842
Skyrim is shit and is an example of a game with no gameplay ill probably get it for my switch though

>>389682034
To be fair it is basically Dying Light 2.0

>>389681640
>It has all the shortcomings I'd expect from a Ubisoft title
Then you've clearly never played an Ubisoft title, and I envy you.

>>389681960
I'm not saying they're 100% identical in terms of play, BotW definitely still carries many vestiges of the previous 3D games in its general systems. But its world presentation is definitely a deliberate attempt at aping Skyrim. People can Google the dev interviews that make this obvious for themselves, if they aren't still busy trolling the field for NPCs that give them sidequests or picking mushrooms off the sides of trees.

>>389676639
>my first hour is the greatest time
>the rest of the game is a total drag, because you see all the industry cock sucking with recycled assets all the dungeons literally the fucking same and the main game is completed in less than 3 hours

>>389677374
>average
Nah. Average is worst. Everything else is true though.

>>389677291
Do yourself a favour and set up an fps limiter. >>389678662
Don't talk if you don't know what you are talking about

>>389682054
>food analogy

>>389682054
That's wrong though. The main problem with ubisoft games is the presence of too much crafting with nothing, not even puzzles, connected to them and that everything is marked with a nice trail leading to it so you never have to find a way to get to it yourself

>>389682034
how about the fact that there's never any reason to fight enemies unless you're forced to? Unless you're farming specific items, and then it falls for the "retarded drop rates" meme

>>389682045
You can't use more than 3-5 healing items in combat, you can't pause during combat. Play the game before you talk moron.

ONly one potion even instant heals and you can only drink it twice.

>>389682076
Unique locations, unique boss fights, unique items and weapons, and puzzles. I'm not getting into details to each moment, but I can ask the same of you. THose BOTW moments don't sound extravagant at all.

>describing pure gameplay moments,
That doesn't mean anything when the gameplay is bad.

>>389682163
Bait? Skyrim did absolutely nothing novel lol. Maybe Elder Scrolls in general, but not Skyrim.

>>389682265
what

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>>389682101
>Skyrim is shit and is an example of a game with no gameplay ill probably get it for my switch though

and there we have it

>>389682081
>"Rain makes climbing LITERALLY impossible"
>No it doesn't
>"Y-y-you're an AUTIST!"
Please, try harder. If you come out too soon and say you were only pretending to be retarded, its just not going to work.

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What bothers me so much about this game is that it fundamentally misunderstands how overcoming challenge is rewarding for players. You want to be tested, figure out a cryptic puzzle, defeat a tough boss fight, and feel rewarded by overcoming it.

Instead BotW seems to think that making a game easier means the player will have more fun, and that the less we have to think and care about what we're doing the more rewarded we feel. Hence why the Great Plateau is infinitely more challenging than everything after it.

The champion's powers, enormous inventory of food with easy recipes that will restore your health, fairies, respawning powerful weapons, armour upgrades, etc, every reward in this game just makes it easier and less fun, and in turn you end up just not using it because you want to actually feel challenged.

The game even goes as far as to """reward""" you for completing the Beasts by shortening the final boss. Instead if you don't do the beasts you get a much more satisfying, longer fight that's actually challenging. This is the kind of shit that, even if I loved most of the game, makes me wish it wasn't Nintendo and their senile ideas about game design who developed it.

>>389682294
You'd know it wasn't bait if you actually played the game I'm drawing analogies from, newcancer.

>>389682294
>the greatest normie bait didn't influence how games are marketed today
Yeah sure, stay delusional. BOTW is the biggest suck off to that faggotry that's why it makes for a mediocre zelda game.
>implying BOTW isn't straight up Skyrim normie pandering

>>389682265
Isn't that a good thing? Having more options is better

>>389682341
I never said it was impossible. It's an inconvenient mechanic that has no place in the game than to annoy the player.

You seriously think it doesn't require a ton of stamina? Are you fucking retarded? Show me a video of someone climbing a big cliff face while it rains with no ledges without having a ton of stamina upgrades.

>>389681592
That's pretty cool, thanks, might try it later.

>you can use the mouse wheel
Holy shit I feel stupid now. I solved like three or four of those shrines lacking one axis...

comparing zelda with those turds. I can't play gta5 for more than 10 minutes before being overwhelmed with boredom. Zelda was actually worth the playthrough

>>389682403
>muh challenge

Fuck off and play something else

>>389682448
>if you actually played Skyrim
implying, what the fuck? Everyone has played Skyrim.
>newcancer
lol okay are you even older than 20 dude? I was using /v/ when you were 8 years old

>>389682463
>the greatest normie bait didn't influence how games are marketed today
nice spergout faggot, i didn't say that

>>389682483
>Also hilarious how raining also prevents you from climbing literally halting any progress for x amount of minutes because you can't do shit.
Yes, you fucking did, you goddamned mongoloid.

>>389682483
>inconvenient mechanic
Maybe if you can think of something else to overcome the problem? Do you call every thing you have to do in a game an inconvenience whenever you bump into ANY kind of obstacle?

>>389682569
Sorry but most people would take GTA5 or the Witcher 3 over Zelda anyday.

It's why they have more awards, sales, and recognition while not relying on nostalgia, paid reviews, and brand to do well.

>>389682480
the point is the rewards are so trivial there's no point to the vast, vast majority of enemy encounters. Why waste time, health, and weapons on an enemy that'll just give you some useless mats and some ore?

>>389682621
fuck off retard, grownups are talking

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COULDN'T FUCKIN AGREE MORE

all this shitposting and now that i played it i'm like holy shieeet.

i think i'm going to buy the switch now just for this game to let MUFFUGGIN nintendo know how much a want another zelda like this.

and now that i know what nintendos talent really is, i think that odyssey will be second place on the goty list, so that's one more reason to buy a switch since it can't emulate that game.

>>389682731
>getting BTFO this badly
sorry homo, maybe just kill yourself

>>389682341
>putting words on another anon's mouth
also
>lying
Fuck nintendrónes, seriously.

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>>389682683
>most people
Hmm source? Because I seem to find the opposite true

>>389682638
>literally halting any progress
I never said it was impossible at all.

You know what, let's mic Zelda autist. Let me hear that cringy voice and tell me why its worth defending the game. What's your discord username?

>>389679385
what the fuck, I run this shit on a fucking pentium and gtx 1050 ti with stable 26-27 fps, 50 fps in shrines, and it uses like 5-6 GB of RAM

just install some performance mods goddamn, it just requires you to put them in a folder and check a box

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>>389682603
Right, because Zelda where "the plot doesn't matter because it's about gameplay", doesn't actually need rewarding or challenging gameplay.

>>389681954
I completed the game twice, second time om death march and have all the achivements on steam. Im not reinstalling the game and recording a video for you when its obvious to anyone who play alot of games that the combat in witcher 3 is shit. I also was not saying botws combat was good, but it has more variety in weapons and a bow thats a million times more useful than the dogshit crossbow in witcher 3. And yes i guess you to that counter thing in W3 too, a mechanic thats equally easy to pull of than the flurry mechanic in botw

>>389682556
the best part? now that you have a feel for using the mouse you'll throw the phone across the room when you fuck up. it's just as much a challenge(with motion control) as it is with the mouse.

>>389682569
You're overwhelmed by there being actual things to do.

>>389682683
GET SOME TASTE YOU SHEEP

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>>389676639
NINTENDICKSUCKER pls, you aren't fooling anyone.

>>389682704
Then don't do it? The game isn't forcing you to

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>>389682786
>no ip checking

>>389682643
Are you fucking serious? Why not just take the controller away from the player then for 5 minutes while the rain happens?

Name another game that does this.

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>>389682805
You can just speak to yourself lmao, you get the same effect

>>389682891

>>389682880
Perhaps you should read the comment chain before replying next time

>>389682786
>A /v/ poll
Serious faggot? This is like the only place on the internet that even still talks about the Switch.

>>389682898
I played this game for like 30 hours and I never ran into an issue where I was climbing a huge ass mountain face and it suddenly started raining in the middle of it. Instead maybe I'd be approaching a mountain and then it'd start raining, so I'd have to find a different way to get around that mountain until the rain died down.

None of it was irritating because the game is just comfy and fun to explore. Your description of it as if you're forced to sit in a Mass Effect elevator for 5 minutes is bullshit.

>6 fucking months
>189 days now
>asshurt is still as strong as it was on release date
Holy shit, give it a rest /v/

>>389682898
>name another game that does this
Literally any game with an enemy you cannot tackle at that point in time. What do you do? You go around that enemy

Wow my mind is totally blown

>>389682820
What's your Steam ID? I can add you so you can prove your claims.

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>Switchkids acting like they have taste because reviewers told them so

Zelda 1, OoT, Elder Scrolls, FO3, GTA. Just making some recommendations. If you like BotW, you'll probably enjoy a lot of these games. Chances are you're never going to touch any of them because you're underage fanboys, though.

>>389682880
Not that anon but that doesn't make it OK, especially not when most of BotW is like this.

In previous Zelda games every objective and reward has a necessary purpose and point in progressing the game. BotW is basically just a sandbox of ideas, some polished better than others, with no real good thought put into whether it makes the game more fun or rewards the player properly.

This is how you get devs who think that the easier and shorter the final boss is, the more rewarded the player will feel.

>>389683000
Can you find a better source?
>only place on the internet
Where do you even go

>>389682805
>I never said it was impossible at all.

>rain prevents you from climbing
Tell me, sweetie, If one is prevented from doing something, is it still possible for one to do it?

BOTW is the best open world game since san andreas.

>>389683040
>"It didn't happen to me so its not an issue"

Okay faggot.

>>389683053
You fucking serious? How is that nearly the same thing? Do you wait for the enemy? No.

>>389682403
Maybe I'm just shit and not playing the game like you're supposed to, but I find it difficult enough. I've spent every orb on stamina so far (2½ wheels) and only have fours hearts so a lot of stuff like guardian lasers or elemental arrow are one-shots (or at least close to.)

>>389682034
The constant autosaving kills any sense of danger.

>>389683171
It didn't happen to me in 30 hours of playtime, so yeah, it's not an issue. it's something you're sperging about because you're a fag.

>>389683096
I'm not talking about the reverse difficulty curve though. If you enjoy fighting the combat should be rewarding in and of itself, but if you don't you have the option to avoid it

>>389683131
>source
>a strawpoll

Okay kiddo.

posting in underage newfag containment thread

I was having a lot of fun with this game but as I continued to play I started to realize that almost every single side quest is just a dressed up fetch quest and there's nothing interesting to find in the open world unless you find shrines and korok rock puzzles fascinating. The combat was also extremely shallow, even Lynels become trivial after you've fought a few of them.

It's a good game overall but definitely not my favorite Zelda game.

>>389683171
>do you wait for the enemy
Do you wait for the rain to stop? WHY do you wait for the rain to stop? Why don't you find another way around?

>>389683217
You are so blinded by NIntendo cock, that you can't even call out a flaw in the game. Its shameful.

>>389683149
Discord, faggot. Hurry before my girlfriend gets home.

>>389682341
>WAAAAAAAAAH the game presents me with obstacles that require employ even the slightest bit of critical thinking to overcome! HOW WILL I COPE!?11?!1one?!?

>>389682779
>putting words on another anon's mouth
>"rain prevents you from climbing"
His exact words, sweetie.

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>>389683087
>acting like you have taste
>Elder Scrolls, FO3, GTA.

>>389683261
Then find better proof of your claims then

>>389683353
>it's a flaw because I said so!
get the dildo out of your ass anon, your butthurt is showing

>>389683096
I agree with you and Master Mode kinda fixes this issue, since enemies are buffed stats, better AI, and regen health, the difficulty scales much better with how powerful you become later in the game. You really have to use everything you have to take out the later groups of Silver/Gold moblins/lizalfos.

>>389677374

The strongest point of the game is definitely the over world and how you move around in it.

The shrines are sadly mediocre but still pretty fun. Too many combat shrines as well.

Too many fetch quests but any quest that gave me riddles or enviromental clues to go out and find something rather than giving me a blip on the radar were just endlessly enjoyable. Didn't even care what I was looking for it was just so fun to go off and exlpore. Felt so adventurous.

Combat is serviceable but nothing to get excited about.

I loved the big robot things, whatever they were called, but traditional dungeons were missed.

Variety of weapons and armor was impressive.

Despite some aspects being not the greatest, it's core aspects were so over the top good that it made up for everything.

>>389683353
I'm not a Nintendo fag. I didn't even buy a Switch, my brother is a retard that buys everything even though he doesn't play any of it, so I just used his Switch.

Your criticism is just a nitpicky point to bitch about because like I said before, you're a faggot. It's not an actual flaw in the game, as nobody is affected by it except for people who are already stupid crybaby faggots.

>>389683347
Because going around would take an excessive amount of time. Are you suggesting stronger enemies prevent always prevent breakthrough?

There's also not always a way around, or going around would take longer than waiting for the storm to finish. How does this apply with strong enemies that developers place for different player pathing?

>>389683185
That's kind of the point, the first half of the game is more challenging than the second half. The more your weapons increase in power and you gain more abilities, the more you begin to overpower literally everything in the game.

All of these things would've been fine if the difficulty moved with your gameplay. Instead your power doesn't ramp up together with the challenges presented, because they insisted every part of the game should be accessible in any order, and thus everything stays at a medium difficulty.

>>389683446
Why the fuck are you avoiding voice chat?
Are you really that much of a pussy?

Comon, I can pick at it harder, let's have a conversation like adults.

>>389683185
Man I don't even have 2 full stamina wheels, like 1.75 right now. I have 9 hearts though. Been playing for over 60 hours, to be fair, mainly exploring and finding those damn korok seeds, only have 115 out of 900 or whatever.

>>389683545
I'm not the one you're trying so hard to pick a voice chat fight with. But to tell you the truth, I have work in 30 mins and I don't have my mic set up on this computer.

I'm smarter, more eloquent, and have a deeper voice than you just FYI.

>>389683462
>excessive amount of time
And so? You can either choose that or wait. If you think it isn't worth it go build a fire and rest

>>389682816
A game doesn't have to be challenging to be rewarding

>>389683347

I was baffled you never got some sort of gloves that helped you climb in the rain.

>>389683615
Oh you think so? than why are you running away?
If you tell me your username, we can continue this later. I wanna speak to a legit Nintendo fanboy autist.

>>389683462

>not finding cover from the rain and making a fire

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>>389676996
I have a Ryzen 5 1600 @ 3,8GHz and a GTX 970 not that GPU matters that much if you don't supersample

Running 2k supersampled 21:9 2560x1080 locked at 35fps because some physics glitch when FPS goes over 30 like arrows fly shorter the more FPS you have so 35 is nice with a bit extra frames but nothing broken.

In some high density towns now with the new Xalphenos FPS patch I get around 24-27 FPS but outside of towns it stays 35fps 100% of the time.

Now with the FPS patch I'd say is your best time to try CEMU and BotW

>>389682749
I'm not paying for a ridiculously overpriced Android tablet when there's just a single game I'm even remotely interested in, but I'm going to order a copy of BotW just because.

>>389678564

this gif always gets me.

> le fat man enjoying his bagel bites like he's tripping on mushrooms

>or eating pussy

>>389683238
that would be a fine argument if combat wasn't one of the core elements of botw and zelda as whole
In fact, the reason botw is so contentious is because it misses almost all of those elements. Combat is pointless, dungeons are tiny, and the traditional item system is scrapped and you just get everything at the start. The only thing it got right is exploration, which is made hollow when the three other core elements aren't good

>>389683626
So again, its an inconvenience that doesn't need to exist. Otherwise, a BAD GAMEPLAY MECHANIC.

>>389683694
I just told you faggot I'm not a Nintendo fanboy autist, your criticisms are just garbage.

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>>389678704
I've played both BotW and TW3 and BotW is a much more enjoyable game.

>>389683493

Enemies seem to grow stronger as you progress. I don't remember seeing the stronger white enemies early in the game.

>>389683632
How else is the game rewarding then? I know most people cite the exploration itself and I did really enjoy just finding new places and sightseeing, but it feels really barren when you realise nothing unique will be found and it's just more copy-pasted minibosses, shrines and koroks.

>>389683694
You can speak to yourself, and pretend that you like Nintendo. Same thing

>>389682225
>Too much crafting
>Botw is grindy as fuck if you want to fully upgrade your best armour

And everything is clearly marked in Botw as well. Shrines and towers are bright red unmissable things that you can see for miles away. And thanks to the ridiculous climbing system you can literally walk in a straight line to them all without any challenge since you can just climb over every obstacle

>>389683462
How DARE the game ask you to think critically or problem-solve when presented with an obstacle!

The absolute GALL!

>>389683579

I found the last shrine last night. 150 hours.

>>389683784
I think you would be better off watching movies. Inconvenience is what makes a game
>>389683847
the shrines and koroks are rewarding tho

>>389683401
>>"Y-y-you're an AUTIST!"
Sure, darling.

>>389683813
You see stronger versions the more of them you kill.

It's overrated.

>>389683862
I have found at least 50 of them but only completed 47 of them.

>>389678704

Two very different kind of games. Witch is an infinitely better narrative driven game but BotW is a better open world game.

>>389683853
>ridiculous climbing system allows you to walk in a straight line and you can climb over every obstacle
Literally wrong. How do you climb a frozen river?

>>389683813
That's as ramped up as the game ever gets, they just end up being damage sponges for most of the second half of the game. Way too often did I take out a camp of bokoblins and just endlessly wail weapons at the one white enemy

>hit it
>falls down, stands up
>repeat 4-5 times

For the record, I didn't die a single time in the game after the third beast

>>389683802
Wahhh
Wahhh
I can't discuss like an adult so I run away.

Oh boy.

>>389681624
"It's optional" is not a defense. If it's in the game it's open to criticism, period. Having content that is so bad that it deserves to be skipped is bad game design. 100%ing a game should be satisfying, especially when it's an action-adventure title built around exploration. I know we're all used to filler bullshit in AAA games (especially open world games) but let's be real and call a spade a spade.

>>389681657
>Except the puzzle connected to them outside its

Except that's the problem, the blessing shrines are a waste of time. All you do is open a chest and grab the orb. They could have found a way that didn't involve sitting through two loading screens and mashing through cutscenes. It speaks to their copypaste nature, they never thought to consider the context of each shrine and whether it was really appropriate to have one or not. You don't need to load an entire shrine to show a spirit orb model and increase the count by one.

>Strength shrines are bull but there are twenty of them

20 out of 120 is A LOT. Especially when you're fighting basically the same enemy every time.

>Rewarding players who wander into random areas

The thing is, having the same few rewards every time is not satisfying. Even LoZ and LttP had more variety with how they rewarded exploration. Finding one of 120 shrines or one of 900 seeds is not exciting, it's mundane. Novelty is very important when it comes to exploration, copypaste doesn't cut it.

>>389681739
>The cleverness lies in how they're spread around

How? The map is huge, and it doesn't take much work to plop down a shrine or a korok seed. The shrines aren't distributed in some kind of logical pattern, they're just there. All they do is show how flimsy the warp system is.

If you guys want a game that's actually clever, play the new Prey. So many fresh and unique ideas with top-notch handcrafted level design. Just ignore the dumb brand controversy, it's not a reboot. It handles exploration way better than BotW.

>>389683853
>And everything is clearly marked in Botw as well
No, its not. You can set one quest as active, and it marks shrines and towns/stables you've visited.

>>389683934
But that's what you said, sweetie.
>>389682081
>You are more likely to run out of stamina unless you are an autist

Horizon Zero Dawn and Nier Automata are better than Zelda Breath of The Wild.

>>389683804
Congratulations on having shit taste.

>>389684029

Yes, the white ones specifically are hit sponges, but as of right now, my character maxed and loaded with most powerful weapons I take them out as quickly as normal. There is a certain point where they are pretty annoying though.

>>389683853
>Shrines and towers are bright red unmissable things that you can see for miles away.

This only describes the first 30 or so shrines. Most of them are hidden away in caves (which the shrine sensor doesn't help with since it doesn't point you in the direction of the cave's entrance) or surrounded by high mountainous terrain, obscured by the weather conditions, etc... and a good number of the shrines don't even appear at all until you complete some overworld puzzle or NPC quest.

>>389684132
Nope.

>>389683857
>critically or problem-solve when presented with an obstacle!
So nothing in BOTW?

>>389684132
Tons of games this year alone are better than BOTW, including Yakuza 0.

But we have Nintendo autists here that don't play games. They only defend them.

>>389684094
>20 out of 120 is A LOT

I really dislikes the combat shrines. Sometimes I came across them 3 or 4 in a row.

>>389684094
And not a single REAL was mentioned.

>>389684021
If its frozen you can just walk over it

>>389683853
>And everything is clearly marked in Botw as well. Shrines and towers are bright red unmissable things that you can see for miles away
Again, objectively incorrect, you're still just stating blatantly false bullshit.

>>389684094
>all you do is to
See that I agree with, but saying blessing shrines offer nothing beyond the interior is dumb as fuck
>having the same rewards everytime is not satisfying
Isn't it the same in the other zeldas? you get weapons, armour, rupees, especially in LoZ
>shrines aren't distributed in logical pattern
Actually if you bother thinking about it you will know that they are

>>389684085
To be fair you aren't acting like an adult either

The "witcher is good if you play on death march"
meme needs to stop. Poles will cling to anything for their shitty games. JUST FUCKING STOP.

>>389684132

I traded both of them in after 10 hours or so. I don't know what it was about them but good lord they were just not good games. Nier was cool in the beginning when it was linear but when it opened up it became absolutely boring. Horizon is just a mess really.

>>389684094
>The thing is, having the same few rewards every time is not satisfying. Even LoZ and LttP had more variety with how they rewarded exploration. Finding one of 120 shrines or one of 900 seeds is not exciting, it's mundane. Novelty is very important when it comes to exploration, copypaste doesn't cut it.

So much this. Giving players a sense of wonder, especially in an open-world is vital. When you realise the whole world will just be shrines, koroks, and the same 3 minibosses it makes everything feel much more limited and less special.

>>389684258
Nothing for you at all in any game since you can't seem to do it, sweetie :3

>>389684164

Not it is you who has the taste of shit in ones mouth.

>>389684301
You serious? Everything is easy as fuck to spot in the game, shrines are fucking beacons of light and render before most things from a distance.

>>389684258
>so nothing in botw
according to some people rain is an obstacle, so there you go. perhaps follow the reply chain yes?

>>389684164
Thanks family.

>>389684094
>Even LoZ and LttP had more variety with how they rewarded exploration.
???
LoZ and LttP usually rewarded exploration with a heart piece, rupees, or quest items. BotW is literally no different.

There are tons of hidden treasure chests containing rupees/materials/weapons scattered throughout the overworld, possibly even more of them than there are koroks.

>>389684384
>Not it is you who has
Okay shit eater.

>>389684359
B-b-but muh environment

Zelda Breath of The Wild is a bad game. This is coming from a Zelda fan.

>>389684480
>okay shit eater
Why are you talking about yourself??

>>389684404
>hes so fucking stupid he thinks rain is something you need to think critically about to overcome.

>>389684480

Stop projecting your fetishes onto me.

>>389684507
t.falseflagger

I understand your opinion but no one fucking says they are a zelda fan like that.
Also

>not first IP in thread
I wonder...

>>389684507
>Zelda Breath of The Wild is a bad game. This is coming from a retard.
Take your YOU and get out

>>389684507

Being a Zelda fan from TP onward really doesn't make any sense. That is, until BotW came along.

>>389684642
Shut up kid, adults are talking

>>389684591
someone clearly isn't smart enough to get past rain, as seen by the entire reply chain

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>>389684094
>Finding one of 120 shrines is not exciting.

Complete and utter horseshit. It's always rewarding to find a new shrine and see what's inside.

The absolute desperation to try and find a fault with BotW is downright hilarious.

>>389684710

I wonder.

>>389684710
Where?

>>389684762

Lots of them are, but definitely not all of them. Even when they are one room many of them take some time to solve.

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>>389678704
>Witcher 3
Shitty combat in a action rpg
3/10 at best

>/v/ this mad over someone enjoying a game
And that witcher 3 autist, kek

>>389684507
>Zelda Breath of The Wild is a bad game.
Hot opinion famalam. Too bad literally nobody gives a fuck. And BotW will still be in the history books as one of the greateat games of all time for years to come. Cry some more.

>>389684861
>Not even passed the tutorial

Try harder cuck, I bet you're a Hillary supporter

>>389683804
Witcher 3 is much more my kind of game, but I'm really enjoying the charm of BotW too. I gotta say that the one thing they really got right was the minimalistic approach to the UI. Hiding almost everything to create a clean, distraction-free experience where you could really enjoy everything on the screen. I hope more developers follow suit.

I know you can turn off a lot of it in W3 and there's the UI mod, but the game was clearly not designed for that kind of play, making it a bit of a hassle, and the mod UI makes it look like you're debugging the game.

>>389684861
You should probably stay away from games meant for adults, kid.

>>389676639
I've got Cemu, do I just need an ISO of the game now? Not used this emulator before.

>>389682621
>Everyone has played Skyrim.
I haven't, it looks shit

>>389685023
>tutorial is fucking 8 hours
anon are you sure you want to defend the game that way?

>>389685109
>stay away from games meant for adults
So every game except RTS games.

>>389685123
It's a little more complicated than that. Check youtube for tutorials. But honestly, it ain't that great. Don't believe the fags on /v/. It's perfectly playable but it still runs like shit. Gets a bit better with each new build though.

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>>389684762
>It's always rewarding to find a new shrine and see what's inside.
it's really not, some are great but then some end up being repeats of previous shrines or just annoying to find in the place of actual ruins or a hidden cave

>>389685530
>it's really not
But it is though

>>389684328
>blessing shrines offer nothing beyond the interior

That's not my complaint. My complaint is that they shouldn't exist at all. But again, Nintendo's logic for creating shrines was very formulaic and left very little wiggle room. If there's a spirit orb, there has to be an accompanying shrine, because reasons. You'd think the game logic itself was tied to it, when it's just a glorified heart piece. Either that or they existed just to pad the number of shrines. "120 shrines" sounds more impressive than, say, 20 - 30, which would be the range actually justified by the amount of content.

>Isn't it the same in the other zeldas? you get weapons, armour, rupees, especially in LoZ

I would argue the only worthwhile rewards are the armor sets because they're the only things that (usually) have some kind of unique value you can't get anywhere else. In previous Zeldas you got new items which redefined how you explored the world, or solved puzzles. In BotW, all the tools you need to beat the game are given to you on the Great Plateau, everything after that is essentially a difficulty slider.

>>389684478
Play LoZ and LttP again. LoZ especially, you can count the number of times the game intentionally rewards you with rupees on one hand (maybe one and a half). Most of the rupees are randomly dropped by enemies. And the "quest items" are a huge slew of items that define how you play the whole game. BotW doesn't even have real "quest items" beyond what you get on the Plateau. You don't need any of those champion powers to beat the game, they just make it even easier.

>>389684762
It's hard to get excited for shrines when they all have the same aesthetics/music and have a good likelihood of either being a test of strength or just really really simple. God help you if you accidentally stumble on a quest-related shrine when you're not supposed to, then you'll probably get a blessing. The shrines in your picture are the minority, not the majority.

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>>389685530

>>389685220
The game is a massive complicated beast. 8 Hours sounds about right for the average prole to get to grips with its complexities

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>>389685729
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. It doesn't count! DELET!

>>389685812
>massive complicated beast
Are you fucking serious? It is shallow as fuck compared to many RPGs and those have less of a tutorial period

>>389685729
The cave is literally a room with a shrine in it you fucking mongloid. And can you go in and explore that massive structure? Nope, you can climb it and fight some guardians though, yay...

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>>389685729
>a coliseum with some enemies
>a cave leading to yet another shrine
those aren't the same as an intricate tower or ancient ruins in a cave senpai
also
>/V/

>>389685729
>go inside seemingly unique looking setpiece
>it either has a shrine inside or the same enemies you've already been fighting for dozens of hours
>the shrine is probably a blessing

>>389685923
Ok cuck, obviously you've never played it

>>389686009
my bad, that's not the coliseum. Point still stands though, it's not like it has a detailed layout or a thorough structure, it's just a few rooms with walls missing

>>389686054
you obviously haven't played many RPGs too if you think the Witcher is deep

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>>389676639
>Emulating a brand new game

Hundreds of people poured their lives into making this game happen, the least you could do is buy it.
Scumbag.

>>389677374
Not even that.
It's just spiderman climbing.