So now that the dust has settled... Persona 4 > Persona 5

3 has the best story
4 has the best characters
5 has the best gameplay

>>389497384
I don't see how 5 gameplay is that different than 4 or 3.

>>389497647
Of course you wouldn't. You don't even have the game.

>>389497647
>No randomized dungeons
>Actual puzzles beyond "find the key then return to the locked door"
>unique confidant abilities, including being able to switch teammates mid-battle and have backup teammates earn XP so you don't have to bench half the party for the entire game
If you haven't played it just say so, Anon.

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>>389497343
I know that /v/ likes to be contrarian but how is Persona 5 not the best game? I know it's the most popular one, so of course everyone suddenly acts like it's worse than 4.
4 isn't even better than 3. I hate that 4 has so many spin offs and shit while Persona 3 and 5 have one dancing game.

>>389497384
Now THIS is an opinion I can get behind

>>389497343
Seriously, what is up with all the Persona threads lately? I could barely find 1 open one for like a month and now it seems like I can't go one second without stepping a Persona thread. I'm not complaining, it's as far as I know no new news as been announced, so I'm curious about the recent resurgence of Persona related discussions.

>>389498628
Well there was the announcement of DSN and DMN a while ago

>>389498096
>makotoposting
Other than that, there are several reasons. Ending is kinda unsatisfying, story is lacking, game was obviously rushed after Madarame, apart from Kamoshida and Shido villains are unmemorable and the biggest problem is that new things didn't change much. Also, SLs and story don't correspond, which was also problem in P4. P5 gets points for style and making gameplay more satisfying while not changing mechanics. P3 excels in storytelling and overall atmosphere, also had physical split and several other features cut to make game easier. P4 had best party dynamics and interesting premise which went kinda retard at the end, also, comfy. I loved all of them, but they are all around equal for me.

>>389498096
5 is tied with 4 as the best for me. 5 had far better dungeons and combat but 4 had better social stuff and a slightly better cast and story. I like both a lot more than 3, which outside of maybe music wasn't really better than the others in any category.

>>389497343
5>3>4

>>389499901
4 had the weakest story in the entire series. What are you on about?

>>389500354
Except it didn't? The murder mystery plus the Dojima/Nanako subplot were far more entertaining than the phantom thief stiff or anything in 3.

>>389500469
The "murder mystery" was fucking awful. Any sort of tension such a scenario should've had was completely destroyed by shoving the story to the side in favor of hijinks between the characters. And the Dojima/Nanako bullshit was the pinnacle of awful storywriting.

>>389500469
this.
at best, the twist in 5 which the phantom thieves knew about goro being a mole is the only commendable part of its' story.
3's all over the place when that deus ex guy came in the story. aigis is also shoehorned so that ending was kinda shit. i liked how they had the balls to kill jamal though.
4 is great. all the twists were executed very well and it goes well with the setting. adachi was simply a piece of shit, and some other guy thought he was saving them

>>389498096
Shit story and cast. Only thing 5 has going for it is gameplay but if I cared about that I would just play mainline. Now that Hashino is gone and he was the reason for 5's plot and it feeling rushed P6 writing is either going to be a whole lot better, or the worst entry in the series.

>>389497384
FPBP

>>389497384
I dont think the story was good in any of them, but i agree with your other points

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Persona 5 is just 4 on steroids. The story was safe and boring, the pacing towards the last months was bad and the cast still have their personality trapped in the S.Link dimension and have no change or effect on the main plot whatsoever and you fight a deity at the end or something. I liked the game just fine but it had so much wasted potential.

Overall: 3>5>4

P5 was the most forgettable out of the 3 though, but the addition of actual dungeons and confidant skills are too good to say 5 is worse than 4
P3 story and ending are just too good, best character development, best OST and best final boss

>>389497384
Truly, the first post is always the best post.

>>389505156
3 has the weakest story, ending, and cast.

>>389505439
That's not possible, not when 4 exists.

>>389505521
4 is better that 3 in every area except music.

>>389497647
>actually good dungeons
>at least some lite negotiation instead of dumb minigame to get new personas
>expanded teammate actions like baton pass

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5 > 3 = 4

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>>389505439

>It's another lets compare a remixed version to a vanillia version of a game episode.

>>389505596
Story's weaker. Concept is stronger, but execution was just awful. Ending had no real impact compared to 3. 4 just wraps it up as a happy ending with IT still completely dependent on Yu.

3 has best story and cast
4 has best setting and has Kanji
5 has best gameplay, music, and likable cast

>>389498096
I love 5. I think it's my personal favorite. That being said, it's a 100 hour game with enough ideas for a 70 hour game, and a continued unwillingness to go hard with the gut punch of a true sacrifice prevents the game from reaching the emotional resonance of 3, though I personally believe 4 suffered the same way. I didn't want Ryuji to die, but the game sure did like to tease us about it. They mention his busted leg both in the main story and in his Confidant, he trips while leaving the last dungeon and it looks like he might not make it, he walks and runs with a mild but noticeable limp in gameplay, and his character cries out for a redemption moment where he throws away his chance to be a recognized hero for the good of the team. Then they undercut the weight of his perceived sacrifice by his brave,
selfless actions by letting the girls beat him up
Then they pull it again with Morgana.

I feel that persona 4 had the best interaction between characters because you constantly went on events with them and were exposed to them
Persona 3 took a different direction and I appreciate that, the characters are certainly the best in the series because of that. In terms of friendship simulator its just not as strong as persona 4, perhaps for the better. The dorm and seeing the characters there doing their own shit was comfy as fuck though, I have to admit that.
Persona 5 falls weak on the character interaction and characters themselves definitely. You never had a chance to interact with them in events and have hijinks like p4. The characters themselves also feel pretty flanderized and never really advance beyond their original character and the few times they do it feels really half-assed (yuusuke's jokes)
I do have to say this though, in terms of premise p4 had the most interested and unique of them all, too bad it was never used to its full potential.

>>389506802
>persona 4 had the best interaction between characters because you constantly went on events with them
That's a problem. There's so many of these sort of events the story is shoved into the background just to have more of these moments. You'd think that a serial killer in a small neighborhood town you're in would be something you should deal with immediately, but no, creating a makeshift band to play at Junes is clearly more important.

>>389506802
3's characters are completely unlikeable and the smidgen of development they get does not make up for that.

4 is the worst one and anyone with taste will agree with this.

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>>389497384
P4 has anime caricatures for characters.
The only "best" anything it has is the villains and maybe the music, but that's still debatable.
P4 doesn't even have any cute senpai girls to date.

>>389507007
They have no way of dealing with Adachi though. They're just teenagers given special powers.

>>389497384
>4 has the best characters
Fucking how? Almost no character development in the main story, all of it is behind the social link. Even then the "development" is essentially the same for every main character. Fucking 5head had the best development and it was cliche as hell.

>>389497384
My nigga

Makes me think, though, what'll happen to Persona 6. will it end up being forgettable in every department, or will Atlus learn their lessons and make it better than all 3?

>>389497384
This is accurate.

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>>389507305
>P4 has anime caricatures for characters.
P3 has a robot that attends school and talks doggo. That's as caricaturesque as it can get.

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>>389507578
Better a robot than a trap-bait mascot character.

>>389507353
Even during the times they didn't know who the killer was, they should've been actively trying to figure shit out, not go to the beach. The only times that kind of shit was excusable was after Mitsuo's arrest, after dragging Namatame out of the TV world, and after capturing Adachi. There was some rough shit going on but they were perfectly content with fucking around.

>>389507741
There was nothing else they could do.at the time. The investigation kept hitting dead ends.

>>389507741
The only time they could make a move was when the killer made a move.

>>389507680
It sure as hell isn't. No one pretends teddie is a normal human being before he takes off his costume.

>>389507741
better than going to school for no reason, especially when one of your party members owns the damn school.

>>389507578
Every single main character in P4 is a trope.

>>389508138
yes, and?

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>>389505439
>3 has the weakest story
Debatable but fair, most of it is just fighting monster of the month while the characters go through drama

>ending and cast
Opinion discarded

>>389508138
Every character in P4 being cliche shit doesn't change every change in P3 being cliche shit.

>>389506042
I'd say 5 has the best setting, but 4 has the best atmosphere. I'd also say 3 has the best combat because its the only one in which tactics actually fucking work

>>389508504
>Opinion discarded
Because MC learning HM 02 and everybody forgetting about the dark hourand events that didn't even happen during the dark hour for cheap drama is a good ending.

>>389507869
>>389508023
Fair enough. But it should've ended when Naoto used herself as bait.

>>389508136
Is school not mandatory?

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2 > 3 > 5 > 4 > 1

>>389508678
>everybody forgetting
When?

>>389508770
on a good day
5 > 2 > 3 > 1 > 4
on a bad day
5 > 3 > 2 > 4 > 1

>>389508721
It sure as hell isn't when you own the damn school.

>>389508907
during the whole ending?

>>389508770
>>389508927
5 >= 4 > 2 > 3 > 1

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>>389508678
>The natural conclusion to the entire fucking thematic journey of the game is cheap drama

>>389508941
That's not how schools work.

>>389508941
But Mitsuru believes education is very important. And it's true. Every single one of your party members, just like every other Persona game, is a fucking idiot.

School is mandatory regardless, anyways. The school isn't making you go, the government is.

>>389509046
P3D is going to be awkward as hell when it comes west since Yukari's dances, body language etc aren't based on Atlus USA's bitch Yukari

>>389497384
>3 has best story
Eh it wasnt bad, enjoyable
>4 has the best characters
Cut and paste anime stereotypes arent good characters
>5 has the best gameplay
Yessir

>>389507458
There probably won't be Persona 6. The team has moved on to work on that High Fantasy thing.

>>389509046
>oh no they forgot all about the dark hour and their time together
>welp, nevermind
yes

>>389509064
>x guys attended school
>they got passing grades
gl hf

>>389509069
It's easy how you guys forget how Aigis can go to schoolor even exist in the first place and then bring up the government or how school is mandatory.

>>389509338
>Implying Atlus won't just get fresh blood for it

It kinda needs it too; we need another shake up a la P2 to P3 considering we've had 3 games with the same kind of formula in a row.

>>389500354
Persona 5 has the weakest story by virtue of having the absolute shittiest, one dimensional villains.

>>389509440
The formula is safe and at least guarantees a minimum amount of enjoyment. An entirely new team inexperienced with the game could fuck it to hell.

>>389508621
At least the changes in P3 are different instead of cookie cutter garbage.

>>389509338
The P-studio is still alive. Hashino successors are just the leading mangers now. Hashino and some others are in the fool studio now or whatever it's called.

>>389508770
>2 the best
>with that gameplay
If only we could get a remake

>>389509374
>one aspect of this school is fantastical, the entirety of the school ignores common rules
Don't play stupid.

>>389509621
Megami Tensei games don't get remakes. Only enhanced ports.

>>389509665
>forgetting that Shinjiro never attends school
literally stupid

>>389509871
And he's dead, Anon.

>>389509871
>what is a delinquent

>>389509962
Not in P3P.

>>389509969
>we can focus on saving the world
>but that would make us delinquents!
jeez

>>389510073
Do you even know what you're saying or are you just arguing for the sake of it?

>>389509871
Wasnt he an adult that dropped out?
Or he mightve been a 3rd year since he was akihikos friend

>>389510168
Do you truly believe that they have to attend school? Despite their parents being dead/not giving a fuck about them, living in a dorm, one of their friends owning the school, and having a cop who sells them fucking weapons?

>>389510274
Maybe. It's been ages since I played P3.

>>389510393
Yes, because otherwise they won't graduate. Then they're as good as dead.

Also, Tartarus didn't require them to be there all of the time to begin with.

>>389510574
Because not graduating would make Mitsuru less rich, Akihiko less of a hobo, Junpei more of a failure(little league coach for fucks sake), would ruin an actress carreer, etc... I think Ken is the only one that actually did something after graduating.

>Also, Tartarus didn't require them to be there all of the time to begin with.
They sure as hell complained a lot about being tired.

>>389510760
You're forgetting they live in fucking Japan, Anon. Dropping out is basically a sign that you're a failure and no one will accept you.

>>389510914
>it's a japanese thing, you wouldn't understand

>sign that you're a failure and no one will accept you
so nothing would change for Junpei.

>>389510760
More than graduating, they had to be diligent students because Mitsuru was on their backs.

>>389511030
Who the fuck would let someone who couldn't get through school coach baseball, in Japan of all places?

Social links in 4 are much better than 3
The only link i actually fucking cared about in 3 were the Sun guy and Maiko. Everything else was trash
Especially the class president.
>Oh look at me i'm a poor shy girl, oh the student council president is worried and wants to talk to my only friend? That fucking bitch get your hands off my man. Oh teehee my dad said i was territorial about things i care about.

Yosuke's also a much better bro

>>389511307
Being a little league coach is a sign that you're a failure.

Anyone claiming 4 or god forbid 3 does anything better than 5 is delusional. 5 is just better than both in every regard. It is unreal how much better it is than 3 and 4.

>>389497343
Mostly agree, but I think it's 4>5=3

>>389511394
That's because Yosuke is actually tries being a good person. Junpei is a cunt that learns to like you.

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what did they mean by this?

>>389497384
>3 has the best story
>3 has the best characters
>5 has the best gameplay
ftfy

>>389511454
Goro was shit adachi in all of the most embarrassing ways.

>>389511639
Naoto is a retarded slut

>>389511742
Well that isn't surprising since his role in the story isn't the same as Adachi's.

You just can't see that because your entire perception is colored by your past experiences with the other games.

>>389511646
>>3 has the best characters
>Abloobloo why didn't your dad die instead of mine
>Oh look at me, i'm a rich person who doesn't know how society works
>Hey dude, i wanted to be the leader, so i'm going to be an asshole to you for half of the game
>WOOF
Anon, how many levels of delusion are you on?

>>389511454
>5 has worst music
>5 has worst characters
>5 has a dumber story, which baffling considering 4 exist
>5 has the worst villians
>5 has the worst mascot
>5 has the worst conclusion
>5 has the worst overall social links
Fuck off Persona 5 baby

>>389511995
i'd rather have actual characters than scooby and the gang: anime edition. In this episode they jerk of the potag for another 30 minutes

>>389511995
Anything sounds stupid if you turn them into one-dimensional blithering retards, anon.

>>389512000
>5 has worst music
Overall I would agree. But some songs like Life will change and Rivers are GOAT. Also nice trips

>>389497343
music:
3 > 5 > 4
rise:
4 > *
everything else
5 > 4 > 3

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who was in the wrong here?

>>389512000
>5 has the worst mascot
Is this, dare i say it, B A I T

>>389511995
>abloobloo my situation sucks I'm going to avoid it, oh nevermind I'll stop running from it
>abloobloo my situation sucks I'm going to avoid it, oh nevermind I'll stop running from it
>abloobloo my situation sucks I'm going to avoid it, oh nevermind I'll stop running from it
>abloobloo my situation sucks I'm going to avoid it, oh nevermind I'll stop running from it
>abloobloo my situation sucks I'm going to avoid it, oh nevermind I'll stop running from it
There, now you have P4's character development. I can definitely see why P3 has the worst cast.

>>389512329
>real teenager issues(minus Naoto) vs anime characters

>>389511646
This
P3 characters are the most fleshed out. Even if you don't like the characters, that's doesn't change the fact that they are written better than anyone in 4 and 5 with Junpei being one of the best written character in the entire series.

>>389512320
Aigis>>>>>>Teddie>>>>>>>>>>>>>Morgana

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>>389512289
3's music is terrible on the whole. It has one or two good tracks, and the intro music is great, but other than that the music is real bad.

I mean I haven't played 4 in years and sometimes I still hum heartbreak, heartbreak. 4 really only has one or two bad tracks, and 5 has none as far as I remember.

>>389512625
I think maybe it's because it's the first one I've played but I still love 3's soundtrack more than the other 2.
Vocals in 5 are too muddled, 4's OST is good, but it doesn't have the same place in my heart as 3's OST.

>>389512531
I cannot fathom how Teddie is above anything.

>>389512625
3s sounds track is great fuck off

>>389512807
nostalgia. The majority of people hating on 5 just need to replay 3 and 4 to see how horribly incorrect they are.

>>389512625
>Burn My Dread
>Iwatadori Dorm
>Mass Destruction
>P3 FES
>Memories of You
>When the Moon's reaching out to the stars
>The Battle for Everyone's Souls
>Heartful Cry
That's only off the top of my head. That's also not counting the fact that at least half of the tracks have remixes

So the choice with P3 is that you either play with no control of your teammates or you play where everything not in tartarus is a low res JPEG.

Which do I choose?

>>389512413
>Junpei's dad is an alcoholic that treats his son like shit giving him a inferiority complex
>Yukari's mom became a slut after her dad died which really messed up Yukari
>Fuuka's parents are neglectful towards her and she's bullied in school
>Ken mom was killed in front of him
>Mitsuru dad gets killed
>Akihiko's sister and best friend are killed

>>389512150
Just because a story is sad and full of drama doesn't make it good.

>>389513090
FES, because tactics aren't an issue if you're not retarded.

>>389513271
And non existent tension and danger does?

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>>389512304
>P5 didn't have hot spring episode
>and the beach scene wasn't blown outta proportion
I think Atlus is finally learning

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>>389513395
thank god i was still recovering from that execution

>>389513395
>beach scene
>literally just them on the beach, no stupid shit
God I really want to believe they are growing up, but it might be just the P5 cast considering how they say during the hawaii trip how they are just doing what they normally do.

So they could just think of the P5 characters that way idk.

>>389512880
5 has the worst story in the series. It's fucking awful.
>let's reuse the same character archetypes and backstories, I'm sure no or will notice
>Remember Kanji? Now just take away anything interesting about him!
>Remember Yukiko? Just take her, and give her Mitsuru's backstory, no one will care!
>Remember the Sudous? They're our villains! Just make them fujobait!
>Remember how Junpei had this big character arc where he radically changed over time due to his jealousy? Let's do that again, but worse!
>Remember how we have this big scene where we have all of the characters think they might've killed their teammate's father? Just put a scene in front that explains to the player that they didn't do anything and not to worry, completely removing all stakes and tension!
>Remember how we set up Izanami at the last minute and she came out of nowhere? Let's do that again, but even more half assed and lazy!

>>389513563
This isn't a good thing, fuck you and fuck the rest of the norms you piece of shit.

>>389513395
I'm somehow happy things never go perfectly for the PT. P4's social outings always left a weird taste in my mouth.

>>389513395
They still had the bullshit of beating up Ryuji for no reason after the ship so they need to keep at it.

>>389513627
Yes it is a good thing you actual child. When the people making the game sexualize the characters it just comes off as weird and creepy and really annoying. Just let the fans make their porn and shit god damn.

>>389513105
>all those abloobloo things happened to occur to the party members
>even the fucking dog has a sob story

>>389513090
Low res jpg, because FES is an awful mess. Anyone who says tactics work is either very lucky, or just plain stupid because they very much don't. You can be a hit from death, and if you aren't under a certain threshold, you won't be healed. But, you say, what if I set my teammate to support? Well then, they will heal you to full and then wait and do nothing. But, you say, what if I very my tactics every turn? Then you are simply playing a low rent version of party control where your teammates will still be retarded on occasion.

I scanned Nyx, and had previously seen that the barrier he makes reflects damage, and my stupid toaster still managed to godhand herself every time it came up. I couldn't change tactics after the shield went up either, because I would go first, then Nyx raising the shield, then my team who would kill themselves. Anyone who says tactics work is an idiot.

P3P has qol changes anyway (skill cards and a few other things) so just play that, the Answer is even worse than Tartarus for 8 hours straight. Because it's Tartarus for 30 hours straight.

>>389513603
>Remember how we set up Izanami at the last minute and she came out of nowhere? Let's do that again, but even more half assed and lazy!
uh what? The final boss is pretty obvious. I mean it isn't like the fact that something is up with mementos is a secret, they just straight up say that it's really weird and they need to figure out what's up with it.

>>389513827
>meanwhile every p4 character is an anime cliche

>>389513983
But Mementos was already established as just being part of the collective unconsciousness, and it still is. The TV World wasn't created by Izanami. It was already there. She just let humanity access it.

The Demiurge being included was half assed.

wtf why are there so many decent thought out reviews of this game?

WHY DOES /V/ ONLY CARE ABOUT WAIFUBAIT

>>389497343
P5 made it very hard for me to replay P3/P4, I had to do the dungeon crawling while watching youtube vids to stay motivated.

That being said I still prefer P3's characters and story.

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>>389513917
>People that somehow got a very easy system to work is an idiot.
OK retard

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>>389514128
>WHY DOES /V/ ONLY CARE ABOUT WAIFUBAIT
because if you take out the waifubait there is not much to talk about

>>389514326
Go back to not existing.

>>389513704
it was a fucking gag, you mongoloid

>>389514067
No, it was never established as just being part of the collective unconsciousness. All through the game, the cat is constantly telling you about how there's something at the center of mementos and how you gotta get there. It isn't hidden like at all, the game is constantly telling you that it is there, and anyone with a brain would take a different ending and immediately think what the fuck about mementos we never learned about what's up with that.

The true ending very much did not come out of nowhere at all.

>>389514312
So you were very lucky, got it. If you can wrangle that mess, you've lived a miracle.

>>389514579
It's not luck, anon. You just need to know how to properly fuckle with Tactics.

>>389514229
>start playing P4 for the first time after seeing some gameplay of P5 and realizing it's just a JRPG + pokemon
>got P5 about when I reached marie's dungeon
>already beat P5, 110 hours
>at floor 3 of last dungeon in P4 because it's too much fucking work

>>389514312
Don't you know we're in an age where it's literally impossible for the player to be at fault? There's no way I could have made a mistake, it's the game's fault.

>>389514416
Yeah getting mad at and beating up the guy who risked his life to save everyone is hilarious. A real knee slapper.

>>389513989
>believable issues vs all this bad shit happened to occur to us
It's like Taro using edgy shit as a crutch for his terrible writing.

>>389514560
Literally every part of the Persona universe is part of the Collective Unconscious.

The thing at the center could've been literally anything. The Demiurge being down there after all of the other plot threads were tied up was just as half assed as Izanami.

>>389497384
The story in 3 doesn't get good until the Hanged Man fight, and while it gets very good at that point, it isn't good enough to justify how boring it is leading up to that point.
The characters in 4 are hit or miss, but I definitely think it's the best friendship simulator of the three, there's just a lot of downtime and group events and the like.
5 does nearly everything the best in my opinion. There are some things 3 and 4 definitely have over it, but 5 was a huge step-up in my book, my only major problem with it was how it copied 4's story structure so closely, and while that structure is fine, it also makes P5 feel sort of like it's factory-made or soulless compared to the other two, like ATLUS could pump out ten more Personas with that exact same structure.

>>389497384
>OST - Persona 3 > Persona 5 > Persona 4
You forgot this

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>>389514732
>analyze enemy
>set doggo to hit knock down
>doesn't use fire spells to cheese encounters

>>389514785
That you think the AI making a mistake like not healing you or killing itself is the players fault is laughable.

>>389515112
100 hrs playthough and not once did that happen to me.

>>389515112
Not the game's fault you can't use tactics.

>>389514128
Persona isn't waifubait, it just attracts a lot of retarded waifufags. As far as I'm concerned, the dating system in each Persona game is underdeveloped to the point that I don't know how I could enjoy the game if I only cared about the girls.

>>389515384
Persona has always been the waifubait Megami Tensei. Well, besides DeSu and Apocalypse.

>>389515354
Funny, if you look here:
>>389513917
It literally is.

>>389513917
I had everyone on support and the only trouble I had with the fight was Moonlight and that's pure RNG.
Get gud

>>389515471
The characters don't feel like waifubait, though, they just feel like normal characters and then you can date them because it's a natural extension of the S.Link system. It still attracts a lot of waifufags. but I never feel like the characters are waifubait when I'm playing, as I said, the dating system barley has anything to it anyway. Also, I haven't played DeSu, but no character in Persona and presumably no character in DeSu is as blatant waifubait as Toki. I have never seen such blatant waifubait in my life.

>>389505737
Chad > Potter > Door

>>389516059
Potter > Door > man whore

>>389505737
hifumi is perfection

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>>389497384
And no love for P1 or P2, as always...

>>389516059
Door > Chad > Potter

When we get an official personality for Joker beyond Daybreakers that might change, but right now we're going with the guys with actual personalities.

>>389516369
Blame Philemon for reseting the universe.

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>>389516282
>Wanting the worst character in the game

>>389515471
Can you really call most female characters in DeSu waifubait? More so in the second game of course but they can still die or disagree with you to the point of leaving the party and fighting you.

>>389513762
>weird and creepy and really annoying
Wow

>>389516529
Rise isn't that picture though

>>389514898
They were mad because they were upset about him being left behind.
Why are people so autistic about slapstick?

>>389512000
holy shit nice bait

>>389497384
*4 has the best lore

5 threw all those seven deadly sins stuff into the gutter. It works like shit.
3 is just muh deth arcana, how edgy.
4 is the only one that actually added depth to the concepts of persona and the tarot bullshit. It was the only interesting setting for me.

>>389516996
There's absolutely zero lore in 4. Even in its sequels, a lot of the backstory is explaining plot from 3.

>>389497384
3 has the best edge
4 has the best waifu
5 has the best memes

>>389516059
4 > 5 > 3
Potter > Chad > Door
3's story > 4's story = 5's story

>>389516417
>official personality
MC got one the most shittiest personalities ever. He was okay n the first movie, but everything else sucked major ass. >>389516529

>>389516996
>something edgy means it's bad

Regardless, the game with the best lore is P2. P3 comes close behind. P4 didn't have shit.

>>389516369
Those is no persona 1 or 2 anon, those are just shin megami tensei games

>>389517313
Not movie MC, PQ MC. As that's technically the only canon personality.

>>389517313
Movies aren't canon
Yu has a official personality from the Arena games

>>389517450
>>389517479
Oh, never mind then. PQ MC is a pretty cool guy.

>>389517153
>explained the potential of the Fool, even if reversed, in Adachi's case
>touched on how shadows are formed, in Mitsuo's case explicitly
>completely new fucking arcana, Hunger/Jester
>all characters and their respective shadows are well represented by their arcana
>far more lore on that part than any of the others

P4 is a low key anime self-help guide. That alone makes it more valuable to me than P3 or P5 ever could.

>>389517629
A lot of that was already explained in 2. There's no new lore introduced besides the new arcana which haven't been used again yet.

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>>389516059
>Boring blank slate chad is somehow better than charismatic outcast thief and chill door god

>>389512304
It's okay. You can get your revengeance on Valentine's Day.

>>389518117
>Chad is a blank slate
I deleted most of my Chad folder to save space, but I'm sure someone has the image where he finds a random fridge in the middle of nowhere and just starts choking down unrecognizable foods, right?

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>>389518151
and boy did that felt good

>>389518117
>Boring blank slate
>when he got so much development that arena copy pasted his anime personality
Joker > Protag > MC

>>389518270
I hate how chie and yukiko are okay with being KEKED

even rise seems to accept it

>>389517629
>all characters and their respective shadows are well represented by their arcana
Guess which games did this first and better. And unlike P4, those characters had various arcanas and a certain affinity to each of them. Characters being tied to a single arcana means not having a whole lot to them which is fitting for P4's cast I suppose but we gotta make the MC special for some fucking reason.

>>389497384
aren't the characters part of the story? your list doesn't make sense.

>>389518729
They don't seem to be okay with it at all. They just seem to be avoiding the truth.

>>389516369
Such a real shame anon

>>389516369
I'll play em when they get HD remasters

>>389521143
So never ever.

>>389497384
fpbp

>>389509440
>cautiously optimistic
I agree with this, I would take a shake up in a new direction even with the risk that It could be bad.

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>>389516369
>P1 or P2

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How does one play P2 these days anyway? Best bet is probably emulate, I guess?

>>389500235
This is the truth of it, because aftet 5 I'll never bebecauseo go back and play any version of 3 or 4 again. They'll just feel like they're missing too many features.

When are we getting Perusona 3 and 5 Dancingu Moon Naito and Dancingu Star Naito?

And why does Japan still pull this "only providing a JPN release date for a game that will clearly leave Japan at some point" bullshit

>>389524982
The game doesn't even have a release date for Japan besides spring and because the game isn't going to come out here until months later.

>>389497384
4 has pretty bad characters to be honest.

I like 3 most because they're all assholes but people you could trust.

>>389511527
Yosuke isn't even trying, he is a good guy. Thing is, people hate him because of his father.

>>389525430
Who are you trying to kid? Yosuke is a whiny cunt.

>>389511527
>junpei is a cunt
i mean his reasons are there and he acts how a normal teenager would act in his given situation
>a alchoholic father who is a bum
>isnt very good at school
>wants to be a pro baseball player but is frustrated he isnt good enough
>finds out he has special powers and thinks he found the one thing in life hes good for
>some other guy gets all the credit for what happens leaving you feeling like you have no worth in life

>>389515025
>feel sort of like it's factory-made or soulless compared to the other two, like ATLUS could pump out ten more Personas with that exact same structure.
It's a hybrid with a life/dating sim of a modern Japanese high schooler. That implies a pretty regimented structure that would hard to break out of unless they do something drastic like set it outside of Japan, which would bring its own problems.

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>>389513762

>>389514128
/v/ is autistic and sexualize everything.
Any discussion about any game here is just lewd posting, I want to ____ X, it's the lowest bestial instinct of stupidity that don't even make an interesting conversation.

It's only here that you hear things like "dating sim waifu bait" like really nigga? the dating aspect of the game is so unimportant and insignificant that if you play for that, you just better of playing something else.

>>389497384

The characters in 4 where dreadful. You can't even call them characters. They're completely devoid of any sense of urgency or personality.

>>389516369
"Hey guys.. maybe... our thoughts.... are... creating reality!"
Yeah great Maya, super.

Persona 2 is underwhelming as fuck.

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>>389497343
Persona 1 >>>>>>>>>> 4 > 3 >>> 5 >>>>> 2

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P1 had the best crew

>>389502757
Best doesn't necessarily mean good, silly buns. I liked the story in all of them though. 5 was a little weird to me just because I don't think thats how it would all go down at all, but you know, its fictional.

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>>389526753

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>>389526863
How can personababies even compete?

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>>389526918
What's the point in giving a reward to yourself anon?

>>389526939
By not giving a fuck about your shit game.

>>389497343
3 had the best story. And nobody plays this shit for the simplistic dungeon crawling.

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>>389527274
We're not talking about Persona 2, though.

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>>389526753
Switch 1 and 4 and you are me. Im surprised someone else likes 1 more than 2 as well, everyone sucks it's dick constantly

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>>389525430
>Introduction scene with saki
>"Yosuke? Lul fuck this dude amirite you don't need a friend like that"
Bitch what the fuck
I was so happy to see her hanged on poles. Why are all male characters in persona are constantly suffering

>>389498096
Pretty sure 4 is still more popular.

>>389526078
I see what you're saying, but I feel like P3 and 4 had different enough structures in spite of that, and I just thought it was unfortunate P5 couldn't feel like that as well, even if I prefer the 4 & 5 structure to 3's.

>>389527719
She was just trashing him, what's so bad about that? Yosuke trashes all sorts of people all the time, and whines like a bitch while doing it.

P5 will be 10/10 if they cut the dungeons side down to at least half and add more story contents. The fucking dungeons is way too fucking long, it a fucking chore to go through all that again. Especially Kamoshida's, no need for a tutorial dungeon to be that long.

>>389527680
Why do artists always include the trinity soul guy but forget about Maya?

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>>389527719
>jokes about not being friends with Yosuke
>says it jokingly just to make fun
>"oh thats cute little thing they got going about"
>no she really fucking hates his guts with all her passion
not a big fan of yosuke but that pissed me off considering he was just being nice to her. glad she got the rope

>>389527945
Joking about Kanji and telling some guy that your colleague is a loser are different things, even if she wasn't that mean it's still left a bad impression.

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>>389528093
Maya is weird since she a was party member first and then a MC. it was also ruin the all dudes and high schooler motif. I think now that P5 is out unless they show every single persona MC the trinity soul guy will fade into obscurity

>>389528342
>act like a complete cunt to every single guy except the designated alpha (the protagonist)
>whine all the fucking time
>nonstop
>every Yosuke scene will involve him whining about something
>be """nice""" to girls, but just the ones you have a crush on
>make sure it's an obvious crush, so that everyone knows about it and can watch you pathetically squirm around in order to better detest you
And people wonder why characters like Saki trash faggots like Yosuke so hard.

>>389497343
Persona 4 is a bad game.