Working on this game must be a fucking nightmare >no access

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>>389408889
TECMOKoei is a fucking piece of garbage

Koei was fine on their own, but when it became TECMOKoei, it all went to absolute shit.

its only like 8? that are sword users.

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>>389408889

>no access to character data on who is the most popular so you just guess the newest games are liked the most

Doesn't matter. Awakening and Fates sold more copies. Therefore appealing to more people.

>polls come out and show no character from the new games in the top spot

Yeah and Smashfags rigged that poll with shitty characters like Roy and Ike that are actually garbage amongst the entire Fire Emblem roster. Lynfags are even worse because they played the first half of the first Fire Emblem game that came out in English and suddenly they believe they are highest-taste and above the "new fans" even though they are literally waifufagging harder than Camillafags ever have

>original characters hated for being sword users and ugly

Except you're wrong, class changes amonst all characters, original characters already confirmed to also use lances. Pic related.

>almost everyone in your game is a sword user despite you saying that wont happen

They aren't. You just watched the initial reveal trailers and gameplay and assumed that even though you clearly aren't following the recent announcements. There will be an almost equal level among all weapon types. Sword will have a few more, just like every other Fire Emblem game, as sword is the most common weapon type throughout the entire series. Go figure.

>all of that other shit you just fucking made up

no one cares

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>>389409396
Nice opinions, fag.

>>389408889
Awakening and Fates were the most successful games in the franchise. The original game and Marth are hugely popular in Japan. All three are also connected within the lore even if by hundreds of years. It's not really guesswork why they chose these three games as the initial focus.

Also there's like 19 characters revealed with only 9 being swords. Including Xander who actually fights by doing 360s on his horse. That's not almost everyone. Not even close.

>>389409608

Almost the entirety of that post is provable fact using data and Famitsu scan info.

Shitty dog pic and shitty attempt to bump your shit thread.

>>389409396
What's with that strategic map and 'project x'-styled portraits?

>>389409396
Actually the most beloved FE entries is Genealogy its been voted by Nips as the fan favorite multiple times. Also, Fates and Awakening are literally the only sold because Nintendo finally started marketing other games besides Mario, Zelda, and Smash.

Besides that from a marketing perspective its smarter to give newcomers more variety that way you can pique their curiosity and therefore make them interested in FE on a whole and not just on two games.

>>389410201
Theres a mode where you play through the story of the bad games in the series like Awakening and Fates and you move characters a on grid, when they meet you do a 1 on 1 battle with them.
Some characters are CPU only in that mode.

>>389410201

>strategic map
"History Mode" lets you play the stories of Shadow Dragon, Awakening, and Fates with the Warriors gameplay integrated in.

>project x zone styled portraits
A mix of Samurai Warriors 4 / Warriors All Stars dialogue and trying to make it look like Fire Emblem's dialogue I'm assuming.

>Hayashi: Some staff even got into quarrels with us to the point that they were saying ‘I’m going to leave this project’. They said bizarre things like ‘Hayashi doesn’t know anything about Fire Emblem!’. Even I had to make this bitter decision, because if we didn’t narrow them down it wouldn’t develop into [proper] gameplay! (laughs)

>ND: It’s precisely because they have fondness towards the characters. So how did you manage to convince them?

>Hayashi: If this game is well-received, we may be able to make a sequel (laughs). That’s why this time we’d like to narrow it down.

>make a sequel
Honestly I'm pirating FEW but if FEW2 has no Awakening or Fates characters I'll pay for it.

>>389410408
>>389410335
That's actually intresting. Is there any footage of how well it plays out?

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>>389410496
>removing characters in a sequel
>in musou of all things
You're not very smart, huh.

>>389410330

I'll just repeat myself.

Awakening and Fates sold more copies.
Shadow Dragon is the first and has Marth, so its a must-included.

You can bring up poll and fanboy shit all you want. It doesn't matter. This game is a NEW game that is for the CURRENT fire emblem fans which have come from playing Awakening and Fates as their first games. And those games also sold the most copies, meaning they have the largest amount of people the game can market to.

The majority of Fire Emblem fans are now people who have only played Awakening and Fates. Thats just the reality of it. The die-hard fans that have played the other games are much fewer in number. If they made Warriros catered to just diehard fans, there would be no one on the roster any new fan would even recognize.

Pleasing the group with the bigger amount of customers is always the best option. That's just smart business. I've played every FE since FE7 and I have liked them all. But I am not bothered at all by the roster and I understand exactly why they did what they did.

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>>389408889
>no access to character data on who is the most popular
They've had character polls before. Pic related. That said,
>most popular character still wasn't included

>>389410627
The only thing we can hope for is the entire cast of the first game is free mode only in 2 if the game doesnt get trashed in reviews causing nintendo to back out.

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>>389410496
>pirating FEW

>>389410496
That doesn't surprise me at all. It's not like Awakening and Fates were gigantic Dragon Quest level releases in Japan. I doubt most of the team is working with anything other than cultural osmosis.

>>389410757
It's coming to n3DS as well.

>>389410627

>>389410496 is an autist who comes up with "reasons" to steal aka "pirate" games, ignore the retard and move on.

>>389410539
No it was just announced in the latest Famitsu magazine scans. The game comes out in Japan in just a few weeks so I'm sure eventually there will be.

>>389409396
And the poll was actually just IS trying to force Lucina again

>>389410757
Its on 3DS too, unless the cancelled it due to people most likely pirating it.

>>389410657
what about smashfags

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>finally feeling good about FEW and like it might be a good game
>see this >>389410496


I guess my go-to crossover is going to remain Cipher.

>>389410912

Smashfags don't buy Fire Emblem and they wont buy this either.

You're delusional if you think otherwise.

>>389410960
Yeah its pretty telling when people on the team aren't happy with it and they need to convince them to stay by telling them the sequel might be better.
This game is literally the prime example of monkey paw

>>389410960
>being this retarded
>letting a retarded /v/ bait post change your opinion on a game you were excited about

Who the fuck cares if the devs argued about the initial roster? Are you 5 fucking years old?

>>389410982
They bought Blazing Sword because 'Roy'. They bought Awakening because 'Marth'. THey all flocked to Heroes because of the polls and those characters they recognize. If they actually advertise the fucking games people buy them. Who would have thought?

Can the 3ds emu play new 3ds games?
Old 3ds fag asking for a friend

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>>389411061
>This game is literally the prime example of monkey paw
I remember seeing this image years ago and dreaming of a game like this.

>>389410982
Debatable. FE7 only sold in the west because of Smashfags, after all, and I wouldn't be shocked if Awakening or Fates got picked up by some people after playing Tr4sh.

>>389411069
It's more that every time I start to see a silver lining, some other bit of shitty news is brought to my attention.

>>389411238
It should since even the old 3DS can run them if you hack it.

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>Elise and Sakura confirmed

Time to get a Switch

>>389410809
>>389410827
Oh ya, i honestly forgot about the n3ds version
Being an o3ds user is suffering

>>389411289
Really?
Oh well it has been at least a year since I looked into it. Thanks.

>>389411273
Awakening's big selling point was Lucina cosplaying as Marth. Also being a game to play on the 3DS when there was nothing else. But mostly the Marth thing.

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>>389408889
Fuck yeah.

I want this game to fucking burn

>>389411406
Didn't stop Shadow Dragon from only selling as much as Path of Radiance.

>>389411327
Delicious pits.

>>389411515
Remember all that marketing they did for FE11? I don't either.

I'm glad this game exists if only just to laugh at Tharjafags get cucked.

>>389411795
True

But then, they barely marketed TSS either.

>>389410496
>FEW2 ever happening

This game is destined to sell poorly. Even with the Switch's larger install base, it's a musou which isn't that popular a genre, and it's alienated a significant portion of the fanbase. They don't have to be pissed off, just disinterested enough to not shell out the $40-60 for it. Not only does the roster suck, the gameplay looks like ass for a musou as well. The hypothetical that they might fix shit in a sequel isn't any reason for me to support the first one when I can tell it'll be shit.

>>389411878
>it's alienated a significant portion of the fanbase
It alienated the portion of the fanbase that doesn't give IS money.

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The PAX build actually looks fun, and I've been shitting on this game for ages because the gameplay looked horrible. The roster is a bit disappointing, but it doesn't bother me as much as it does a lot of other anons.

>>389411878
>$60 for a musou
>one of the worst casts in musou history second only to launch Berserk
>90% of the roster from universally hated game for how shallow its characters were
>releasing right next to Mario
>1080p mode doesn't run at 30fps
>720p mode most likely wont run at 60fps
It will flop and Awakening/Fate fans will blame everyone else.

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>>389412021
>I haven't been giving IS money for 14 years

>The armchair marketer is here
Sage and hide

I keep seeing people complaining about the roster but i havent really been following this game. where can i see this roster leak?

>>389411878
>>389412130
It needs to sell 1.7 million units across both platforms to be on par with Hyrule Warriors. 1.76 million if you want to be precise.

Think it can manage it? Musou games are usually cheap to make anyways, I was presuming, and this game certainly looks cheap, so it might need far less to break even.

>>389412257
But anon, long term supporters of the series don't matter. Not even people who bought Echoes. If you didn't buy three copies of Awakening and Fates both, you're a piece of shit.

>>389410669
Of course Ike and Marth are the most popular. At this point I'm surprised they don't Yuri Lowell it and just remove them from the runnings because they're almost always destined to win.

>>389412482
So far its all been Fates and Awakening which they said its only from those two games.
Fan favorite characters will cost extra.

>>389408889
It's a shame. I honestly believe there would be a sequel that's actually good, but I really don't want to support what's shaping up to be an abomination even among musou games.

>>389410657
I'll repeat myself, focusing on just one or two entries in your franchise is never a good idea, even if those entries are the most popular because you effectively are killing your chance of making people interested in your franchise in general. Which is actually more important since making people invested in your franchise as a whole will make it did that you'll have more than just two hits under your belt.

>>389412130
Fates is only universally hated on /v/.

>>389412497
Even with the Switch's higher attach rate, I really don't see it. 3DS is on the way out in terms of sales and hype for games, and like another anon pointed out, FEW is going to be competing with stuff like SMO for Switch players' attention. Zelda had the franchise's name to work for it, and while FE has come a long way, it's no where in Zelda's league. There isn't a lot to sell the game to non FE fans either, since frankly as a musou it looks like shit.

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Come on guys, let's try being more positive. List the things about FEW that you've seen so far that you like.

As for myself:

>>389411327
They do know there's more than two games in this franchise, right?
At least throw some TOKEN attempt at acknowledging the other games so you can argue that they are not forgotten and will get more time in the sequel.

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>>389408889
Good. FE's new-found popularity and success needs to be met with a good hard reality check. IS and Nintendo got too full of themselves after the surprising performance of Awakening and ending up shitting out Fates, #FE, and Heroes, with the upcoming Warriors looking par for the course. I hope that future failures will humble the developers and recent fans.

>>389412686
You know, I actually would like Rowan more if he were a shota, just for the change of pace. His stupid haircut would look better on a smaller frame too.

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>>389412686
>List the things about FEW that you've seen so far that you like.

>>389412612
how much of the roster are we talking? like how many have been revealed and compared to that how many characters are people expecting there to be?

>>389412686
Axe Lissa is cute at least
Probably the only reason why I'd buy the game

>>389412686
There is literally no reason for them to both use swords.

>>389412517
Echoes was shit too. I've hated FE2 for over a decade, I hate that it's become this bullshit meme to pretend it represents the rest of the series.

>>389412686
Here you go:

>>389412916
In this case I mean that even supporting the newest game in the series, which it makes sense to shill and market in crossover games, doesn't matter because it's not Awakening or Fates.

>Hyrule Warriors is a massive success well received by Zelda and Warriors fans alike
>Is a true love letter to the series with tons of small details and references

>Emblem Warriros is hot garbage that pisses off both camps of the FE base and Musoufags.

How is this possible?

>>389412916
>I hate that it's become this bullshit meme to pretend it represents the rest of the series.
When the hell did that happen? Closest thing to it is 8, and even that's a bit of a stretch.

>>389409396
Rekt.

>>389413024
Hyrule Warriors was a piece of shit being served to the Zelda fandom, who will buy literally any game you give them

>>389412861
they said 35 characters
10 from from Fates
1 from Shadow Dragon
8 from Awakening
2 OC MC
3 OC enemies
This includes clones like Male and Female Robin and Corrin but not non playable characters featured in one of the modes.

>>389413096
warriors in general is fucking shit
hyrule was just the closest its ever been to being above a 3/10

>>389413024
Contractual obligation and mismanagement, I guess.

>>389412746
Heroes is the reason why they are learning.
http://toucharcade.com/2017/09/04/an-interview-with-the-directors-of-fire-emblem-heroes-on-events-design-challenges-and-the-possibility-of-advance-wars-on-mobile/

I don't like Fire Emblem at all and I've played more than my share of musou already, I just want Titania.

>>389412746
But Fates was good
And Heroes is fun, and gives some nice fanservice even to oldfags, with characters like Olwen

/v/ is so butthurt about this game it's hilarious. I almost feel like the devs lurk these threads and intentionally left the Shadow Dragon characters as the last reveals just to fuel your anguish.

>>389412642
> focusing on just one or two entries in your franchise is never a good idea
Worked for Hyrule Warriors

>>389413225
>For example, Dorcas from Blazing Blade was one character that we didn't expect to rank so highly.
MUTTON
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>>389413335
its a shitty fucking game
it'll get a 60 on metacritic, we're not the ones that will be butthurt, literally nobody likes nu-emblem and musoushit

>>389413335
I can't wait for the final reveals to be Male/Female Kris just to twist the knife before they pull it out.

>>389412702
Fire Emblem was pretty much dead before Awakening and Fates so it is not surprising those two games get a strong presence in the roster.

>>389413491
At least give us berserker Kris if this has to happen. No one puts a sword on him.

Ignoring the 3 game limit, the roster is just bad. The Awakening characters so far is the original's starting roster plus Cordelia. Fates' roster is just the royals, and we only have Marth and tiki for shadow dragon. And a portion of Awakening and fates roster are clones of each other, ie the Robin's, Cordelia and hinoka, the younger sisters are clones of their older brothers. The roster is uninspired and lazy. The class changing seems interesting, but we know next to nothing about it the same thing as the Coliseum mode. Also where are the villains, is validar even playable?

History mode is the real main mode of Warriors. It's basically going to be like Official mode from Dynasty Warriors Gundam and play out famous battles from Fates.

Enjoy your Royal families.

>>389413335
Its especially hilarious how they try to act like this game is some kind of train wreck on par with Mass Effect Andromeda just because of a few jokey statements in one interview and a roster. Just look at retards like >>389412746

>>389413542
Some days I kind of wish the series ended on the remake of FE3.

>>389413542
Awakening was the biggest double edge sword in the industry.
Its like the Persona 4 of the series.

>>389413636
he's objectively correct you fucking shill. nu-fe isn't liked by anybody and nintendo are in for a reality check when they get btfo with shitty sales.

>>389413024
Poor marketing. The literally only just announced interesting gameplay functions like class change. As well as actual detailed modes like the history mode. They announced Coliseum mode months ago, but we still have no idea what the fuck it is. They revealed the characters in batches based on game rather than mixing them up or alternating. So we had long stretches of nothing but Awakening and then Fates. And get no Shadow Dragon beyond Marth and a Tiki amiibo until TGS, 4 fucking days before the game launches.

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>tfw you like ALL the games

>>389408889
What are Odin and Noire doing in Warriors, and why are they both blonde, is Libra cheating on his wife?

>>389413798
(you)
ironic baiting is still baiting

>>389413798
You may like all the games but remember Nino will not be in Warriors ever.

>>389413748
Awakening is P3, Fates is P4.

>>389413798
Ninos are pieces of shit.

>>389413929
But anon, Conquest was actually good.

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>>389413798
Same
It's funny seeing how angry people get over each other's preference in FE games.

>>389413970
Only a handful of maps, like 10 were actually good.

>>389413616
>No villains

If Camus doesn't get to be Lu Bu we riot.

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>>389413759
>Being this delusional
Hey whatever the shitposters on /feg/ tell you. Clearly they are the ultimate representation of this franchises fanbase.

>>389413970
The entirety of Fates would have been better if you remove the story and released all the maps as DLC for Awakening.

>>389413970
Persona 4 was also good, but its cast was worse than 3's, despite being the ones shoved in our faces more. So the description fits.

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>>389413320
>But Fates was good
It really wasn't. The story was a mess, characters were inane, and 2/3 of the games out and out suck. Conquest's maps are nice and bring back a nostalgic sense of challenge, but it is easily the worst of the three when it comes to everything else.

Also, Heroes is classic gacha phone garbage. FE at least deserves the handheld platform, not the casualized skinner box that is the mobile platform.

>>389413970
Eh. Characters were pretty lame in general, for all of Fates.

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How is Tharja still not confirmed?

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>>389413601
Nah, it'll be Bishop Kris

>I play games for the story
And then you wonder they don't cater to you jaded grandpas.

I really don't get why companies don't pay more attention to their fan bases. You don't have to do everything they want, but imagine the reaction to this game if Hector, Sigurd, Ephraim, and Ike had been in the initial reveal alongside Marth and some other Fates characters. Most older fans would praising this game with as much intensity as they're disparaging it now, all because it felt like they were getting a little bit of what they want. People would still be wildly predicting which characters from the different games would get into the roster, building hype. Instead, most people have despondently given up any hope that characters from anything before the 3DS games will get into the base game.

>>389412130
>universally hated
>sold extremely well and received tons of praise everywhere except this shithole

>>389414114
>Defending objectively shitty games because you're a memeing contrarian
no wonder you're a personafag

>>389410960
>no TSS
WHY DO THEY HATE US SO

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>>389409396
>Yeah and Smashfags rigged that poll with shitty characters like Roy and Ike that are actually garbage amongst the entire Fire Emblem roster.
FUCK YOU

>>389408889
Could be worse. Look at how they're fucking up Dynasty Warriors 9.

>falling for the open world meme
>changing the combat system
>because of the latter you can't use the already available movesets from DW8:XL so half the cast are going to share weapons/be moveset clones
>includes characters like Xiahou Yuan, Zhang He and Sun Ce losing their weapons
>trying to mix older DW design with current DW fujobait shit leading to the worst of both worlds
>even the Jap fans on 2ch are pissed about how the game is turning out

>>389413225
Heroes is the only good thing to come from the new fire emblem games. Making new fans awe over old characters like Amelia, Reinhardt and exc. While also making grandpas happy by giving said characters new light, art, and even voices now.

>>389414369
except that's objectively false
nearly anywhere you go awakening and fates are hated for being absolutely dog shit

>>389414369
Selling well means nothing, everyone bought Fates thinking it was more FE but it was just a shitfest with maps worse than the mobile game, the worst characters in the series, the worst story in the series, and you had to buy it 3 times to get the whole fucking game.

>>389412746
#FE was good as fuck, though.

Nowi and Celica need to be confirmed too, the former would add great variety to the gameplay with her dragon form and the latter as Echoes rep

>>389414342
Conquest was one out of like six games that have had good gameplay to shore up its lack of a good story. Which is fine for Conquest since story doesn't fucking matter, but the track record for gameplay hasn't exactly been good in recent years.

>>389414365
It's nice to be optimistic, but these threads would still be full of anger and hate. The rage would just change to the babies screaming that the Fates and Awakening characters are wasting the spots for more oldies.

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Why do people always complain about the supports/characters in the 3DS games? While it's true that there are a fair number of poorly written ones (a good portion of the S supports, for example), and that many characters have a gimmick of sorts, the overall larger pool means that there are still plenty of average/good/entertaining ones as well.

Looking back, only Sacred Stones and the Tellius games stand out to me as having mostly GOOD, developed characters; the other GBA games, New Mystery, etc, had a lot of bland or generic supports, and the poor implementation of the system in the former meant that you could spend hundreds of turns grinding two characters to A only to get a pretty shitty conversation all around (Hector x Florina, for example).

The 3DS games, while having a lot of conversations that might be too "anime" for the oldfag FE crowd, still has well written supports and characters on par with a lot of older fan favorites, and they're often fleshed out even more in Scramble DLC, i.e, Virion, especially with his Robin support.

I'm not saying that all of Fateswakening's supports are secretly great, but that the games see excessive hate.

>>389414342
Story and visuals are what enhance the gameplay by giving it meaning. Without them, I'd rather be plaing Chess, Go, or Stratego. These things matter to people whether you like them or not.

>>389414365
The question is what fanbase. Because as for as people can tell, the japanese fanbase does not nearly have as much of a reaction as the western one does. And the volatile reactions in the west are restricted to those who shit on Nu-FE on principle. The biggest complaint that Japan has is that the OC's hair are stupid.

>>389414521
>#FE was good as fuck, though
Anon, you are going to trigger 2 fanbases with that statement.

>>389414443
Completely agree. I initially thought a mobile game would be terrible for the series, but it's been great in showing off the older characters/games. I predict we'll see more remakes in the future, and probably a pattern where they alternately release games to appease casuals and hardcore fans.

>>389414576
New Mystery was fantastic. Shadow Dragon is good if you can accept the quirks it has.

Actually, I liked every game from 8 through 10 too.

>>389411327
If I can upskirt Elise then I'm buying a Switch for this game

>>389414702
It's a universally accepted law that nips have shit taste.

>25 characters confirmed to be the roster
Alright so how many do we fucking have so far? Do female Robin and Male Corrin count as a slot? Because if they do that's utterly retarded. If they are then how many are counted right now.

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>>389414521
How do you figure?

>>389414765
Awakening, Birthright, Conquest, Revelation, Echoes, and Heroes. Those are the six I'm talking about.

>>389414683
They are new and popular and this is the contrarian capital of the internet.

>>389414726
Two awful, whiny fanbases that get triggered over everything. Oh no.

>>389414683
Have a pity (you) for your failed thread, and desperate desire for replies

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>You will never play as L'Archel and be a gigantic ham
>You will never play as Lute and be a gigantic ham
>The Black Knight will never burst out of a random house in the map and act as Lu Bu with his own theme music and everything

>>389414521
>#FE good

Every time, I laugh. It's a pretty good joke.

>>389414903
>Two awful, whiny fanbases that get triggered over everything. Oh no.
This is bait.

>>389414852
They confirmed that there would be more SD characters besides Marth and Tiki, so it's most likely that the Corrins and Robins are just one slot.

>>389414834
Except when they don't, like getting pissed at Chrono Cross and that shitty X 2.5 novel.

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>>389414365
It's not even just the game selection that kills hype but the terrible mismanagement of the reveals. Every time we hear about when the next reveal is, we can pretty much predict exactly what it's going to be by the patterns. PAX showed us all the Fates siblings except the little sisters, so obviously they're included too. Sure enough, next reveal was Elise. If Elise is in, obviously Sakura has to be in too because they sure as shit aren't putting one of the two in without the other. And sure enough, we got Sakura now. Only one left is Azura so fuck it, might as well put her in to complete the whole damn set.

At this rate, I won't be surprised if we come down to there only being one single reveal left and they still didn't even show Tiki yet, making even that one yet another expected formality.

>>389414885
Oh. Pardon me then.

>>389414683
They diluted the pool too much while focusing fucking everything on supports like they're the be all end all mechanics the series revolves around.

>>389414972
>They confirmed that there would be more SD characters besides Marth and Tiki,
Source or are you just talking out of your ass

>>389414969
No its truth. If you have spent any significant amount of time with either fanbase and don't see the constant bitch fits and crying you are full of shit.

>>389413542
After seeing what Awakening entailed for the rest of the series, I wish it stayed dead.

>>389408889
Is there any fucking crossover game where people didn't complain about the roster?

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>>389408889
trailer broke my heard
>FATES focus with AWAKENING runner up
>originals so aryan stereotype the furhur is having a giggle in his grave
>marth and no one else from his actual game in just because lol smash posterboy

>>389414930
But I want to actually discuss it

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>If the Black Knight is ever confirmed to be the Lu Bu of the series it won't be Ike there to fight him it will just be the Awakening/Fates crew fighting him wondering who he is and 95% of the people at home will be wondering as well since they've only ever played Awakening/Fates
FUCK
U
C
K

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>>389414945
>The Black Knight will never burst out of a random house in the map and act as Lu Bu with his own theme music and everything
Now THAT'S a real damn tragedy.

>>389414930
>>389414969
>I'm so insecure I have to right off any opposing opinions as bait.

>>389414972
>Tiki
>being playable
We may have gotten an Amiibo but until tiki is confirmed a character I think she will be stuck as an npc

>>389414683
For every good support in Fates and Awakening there's five about DUDE FOOD. Sumia's is the most notorious one because of how awful it is. IS went out of the way in the story to ship her with Chrom and then you get their support and it's "I bake pie" "o shit marry me".

I want loli Tiki and milf tiki

advance wars is better than fire emblem

>>389415160
>Not knowing BK is going to be in heroes soon and everyone will know who he is because of a mobile game

>>389415185
Dragonstones are confirmed as weapons in the game. Stop being stupid.

>>389413428
Zelda's core cast is really Link, Zelda, and Ganon.

>>389415326
They already have the Roster complete Anon, he won't even make it in the game as a Boss because of how no one knows anything about Ike's games other than Ike was a bad ass mother fucker

>>389415258
I hope they never bring back AW, AW deserves better than modern IS

>>389415072
>SMT
Largely Persona vs more "mainline" shit-flinging. Outside of that and complaints about IVA being watered down, there's not that much wrong here.
>FE
Largely generation wars, with the 3DS entries being the most recent (and successful) and thus a bigger target for shitposting.
/vg/ does not represent the entirety of the fanbases of either series, anon.

>>389414683
Obviously the greater amount of supports, as well as the ease at which to get them lets more people be more judgmental of certain characters and just right them off. See whenever some falseflags and asks "Why is x so popular?" and all the shitposters reply "Because waifus". You can just ignore any legitimate characterization because its technically all optional to view.

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>>389415230
>I want loli Tiki
This. Also pic related.

>>389415179
>right
>>389415258
Lin > Lyn

Lyn is the most popular female FE character

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>mfw gay fates shit
awakening can stay

>>389414852
FRobin is confirmed to not be in the story and only usable in extra modes like Coliseum. Whether that means she takes up a character spot or not is unclear.

Do note it's not actually confirmed there are 25 characters. The special edition comes with 25 character art cards, so tpeople are assuming that means 25 characters. It's a logical assumption, but there could still be more. And even if FRobin counts as a separate character, she could still share the card with MRobin or not even appear on one.

>>389415326
That mobage is more of a representation of Fire Emblem anyway.

>>389415651
That she is, as evidenced by the CYL poll and her hourly point gain in the Gauntlet.

>>389414143
>read that in Lupins voice

>>389409396
this kid has the worst opinions I've heard in a while
i know you're young but you can still go back and play the older games

>>389415373
>implying it's not for Lucina to class change to a manakete

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>>389415610
best boy

>>389415373
And? Says nothing about Tiki. If anything it will be for male and female corrin and Adult Tiki

>>389408889
>muh Dorcas poll
Fuck off retard.

>>389415576
Amazing taste.

>>389415805
Which one?

>>389414903
>Two awful, whiny fanbases that get triggered over everything. Oh no.
SMT fans sometimes complain about Persona dumbing down the formula, but many accept it as its own entity.
FE fans generally gravitated to their favorites while being accepting of the flaws of others, but always relished new releases.

Nintendo and Atlus made a game that didn't really play to either crowd and the fans voiced their disapproval accordingly. It also wasn't until after Awakening that we saw such a large divide in the FE fanbase. A lot of new blood poured in while also naturally being defensive over the critical reception from the older fans.

>>389414169
She'll be in.

>>389415845
Whatever keeps the rage flowing.

>>389414380
>Still being delusional
When you have to circlejerk an opinion on /vg/ in order to feel right, you know you've lost it anon.

>no Hector
>no Cain
>no Lyn
>no Caeda
>no Wrys
>no Anna

>>389415854
>not eating your mutton
How are you even going to build an army?

>>389416250
On the bodies of waifus who didn't make the cut.

>>389416206
>no Navarre
>No Camus
>No Minerva
>No Michalias
>No Jagen

3ds is the biggest mistake in nintendo history

>>389416360
No, I think that's the Virtual Boy.

>>389416330
"Old and busted, can't even waifu them, I'm sure the fans won't mind their lack of inclusion"
-Whoever the fuck is in charge of FEW

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>>389416273
>>389416360
Don't think I didn't notice.

>>389416330
I'd bet on at least Camus and Minerva being in. Jagen too.
>b-but they're revealed right now so that means they're not in the game
Game isn't out yet. Leaks have spoiled your tiny brain.

Why Fire Emblem do many autsits?

>>389408889
The only thing I honestly wanted out of this game Was Sharena and Alfonse as the original characters. Would have been nice to see them in what seems to basically be Heroes on the Switch.
I'd would have love to play as or see 3D models of the two, or Veronica

>>389416608
Oh i know. I think they are waiting until just before the game comes out to reveal all the SD characters so grandpas will run out and buy first day so they don't have time to think it over.

>>389416696
>Why Fire Emblem do many autsits?
Why anon no English?

>>389416697
The game was in development before Heroes. The original designs for the OCs look how they are now because they resembled Sharena and Alfonse too much originally, so the designs changed.

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Where is she?

>>389408889
Is there proof to back up even a single bit of this info? Because I've seen plenty of people excited for it.

>>389417056
http://nintendoeverything.com/fire-emblem-warriors-devs-on-how-the-game-came-to-be-choosing-characters-games-original-characters-more/2/

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>>389415164
>>389414945

JUST

>>389417056
Most of it is exaggeration based on reactions on /v/ and /feg/. And the interview part refers to a statement the developer jokingly. I don't know about digital foundry.

>>389413798
No matter what kind of waifufag shit goes on in these threads, I will always hate Nino posters the most.

>>389415508
I should have been more clear but I thought it was implied I was talking only about /v/ and /vg/.

>>389409396
Based

>>389408889
You forgpt
>making a video game in 2017 when the worst generation of gamers is running rampant for a franchise housing some of the most faggoty people of all time combining two genre's that almost exclusively attract autists
Maybe I could let it slide with me by saying "at least I'm getting paid" but who the fuck wants to be a game dev in this day and age

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>post yfw characters from older games get in as DLC costumes

>>389417467
There will be no DLC

>>389417146
Gonna read.

>>389417251
>exaggeraton of /v/
Fuck, why am I not surprised?
Unless core gameplay elements are being fucked with, who gives a flying fuck about the roster? I don't care if it's ONLY Fates characters. Give more than sword users and I'll be happy.

>>389414945
>>389415164
All these Black Knight posting is really making me want to go back and play Ike's games.

>>389409396
Unironically this, fuck Roy and fuck meleefags

>>389417512
>game made as a collaboration between Nintendo, ISIS, and KT
>no DLC
(lol

>>389417627
It would need to sell to get DLC
Instead it releases right next to the biggest Switch game this year.

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>>389417582

Knock yourself out m8 We sure as hell won't see him anywhere else anyway.Unless you play mobile shit I guess

>>389417676
Funnily enough that's one of the many nails that bled out any chance of Radiant Dawn selling well. It released alongside Super Mario Galaxy.

>>389417721
I do. And I'm already saving feathers so I can max him out whenever he arrives.

I hope someday the Radiant games get remade, maybe after the SNES games get some love.

>>389417804
Maybe FE Switch will sell and possible be good, its been generations since a good one of those.

>>389417676
>implying people wont buy it since the popularity of Hyrule Warriors and Fire Emblem's newly revived success

>>389410496
>Hayashi
Wait. Hayashi as in "man who ruined Ninja Gaiden" Hayashi?

>>389415809
The only opinions he posted were about the polls. The rest are facts.

>>389417887
FE Switch is going to be the big turning point for the series.

>>389418061
Hopefully it does everything in its power to fix what Awakening and Fates did.

>>389418145
It's going to double down on that formula and you know it. Especially after Echoes bombed.

>>389408889
>no access to character data on who is the most popular so you just guess the newest games are liked the most
They had access to character popularity data. CYL was done not only after they had decided on the roster, but largely deviated from what all previous polling data had shown. Lyn wasn't even the first place female in the FE7 poll they did, Nino was.

And CYL showed that Awakening, Fates, and Tellius were overall contained the most popular cast of characters, with Archanea being picked over Tellius because lol no Marth.

didn't realize there was so many shill of this

>>389409396
Ike was the most popular lord in Japan after Marth, it's why they put him in brawl

>>389417887
God I hope it's good. I hope it cuts all the canon wanking nonsense and tries to be something new again. Akaneia has been getting jerked off for a decade now and the only reprieve has been Fates which was bad except for Conquest's gameplay. And even then, the story of Fates was a retelling of the degeneration story from Akaneia so the new ideas were still pretty slim. Echoes being a remake of the original canon wanking garbage (hey look guys it's the Whitewings and Camus! you love the Whitewings and Camus don't you?) doesn't help matters.

I just want them to try making a bigger game next time. I want to be blown away by a game with ambitious scope. I want another GBA to GC leap.

>>389412746
IS was already met with a reality check when then made Echoes to pander to oldfags only for it to, unsurprisingly, sell poorly when compared to Awakening and Fates.

>>389418560
I want them to try the big continent spanning war told from different perspectives they tried in Radiant Dawn again, but this time without the DUDE BLOOD PACTS shit

>Fates timeline takes place Before and Awakening's
What did ISIS mean by this shit? Do we still not have a fucking name for Fate's continent

>>389418670
Pretty sure they didn't expect to to sell millions when they were explicitly talking about it as a simple project to fill time.

>>389418670
Please, Fates only sold because they sold 30 versions of the same game

>>389418243
Echoes bombed? What?

>>389418670
Literally only China liked Gaiden. I have no fucking clue why they keep acting like it has a legacy. It was shit then and it's shit now. Sacred Stones was a spiritual successor that did everything better than Gaiden and Sacred Stones was still a sub-par FE game.

TRS was the only good thing that came from Gaiden, and mainly because they diminished most of the Gaiden mechanics while making the game play more like a cross between FE3 and FE5.

>>389418818
Nope. Nintendo's own sales data specifically excludes the sale of multiple routes when producing a figure.

>>389418670
Yes because "oldfags" clearly love every pre-Awakening game equally an unconditionally. Don't be an idiot.
Gaiden was a black sheep and relatively unknown to most in the West. I was surprised they even decided to remake it and even more surprised that it sold as well as it did all things considered.

>>389418670
>make new game
>NO I HATE NEW THINGS
>remake old game
>NO I HATE THAT ONE
There's no pleasing oldfags. All they want is to jerk off to Hector and Ike forever. And if they ever remade their games they would just cry that some minor difference or change totally ruined everything and the originals are lightyears better. Wouldn't surprise me if they pooled all their autismbux together and commissioned some patreon faggot to make some Hector x Ike bara porn.

>>389418818
Every form of sales numbers that FE has is for physical sales only. So realistically no inflation in the sales numbers happens with fates, since the other routes are just DLC.
>>389418968
He's bullshitting. It sold through its shipment and meet its expectations. It's just that number is substantially lower than what the previous 3ds games have sold.

>>389418968
Unlike Fates and Awakening, Nintendo hasn't made a big deal about Echoes sales other than saying vague things like "it met expectations". While it didn't sell poorly, for how big FE is now after Awakening, Fates, and Heroes, for it to sell worse than the DS remakes in Japan says a lot about how popular it was given how heavily marketed it was.

>>389419195
They haven't made a new game, they keep making weird spin offs like Awakening, Fates, or Warriors.

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>>389419195
>tfw oldfag
>enjoyed Awakening
>hated Fates
>enjoy Heroes
>loved Echoes

Life is ok. Thanks for reading my blog.

I don't know why haters of Awakening and Fates can't just treat that their FE died at 12 if they dislike the 3DS entires so much. It was the declining sales of the older formula FEs that IS wanted to appeal to a broader audiences and they succeeded with this new formula. Not like Persona which they suddenly switched the direction of the game. Instead they wished for the entire series to die rather for IS to make Awakening. I am a oldfags who started with Sacred Stone but god is the FE fanbase full of autistic retarded. Shadow Dragon suck dick and I still wasted 35 on it. Maybe if you guys actually buy the games, the future won't be like this.

>>389419195
>Generalizations and assumptions
Can you even come off as more of an ass?

>>389419272
That's not how budgeting works, you idiot.
>heavily marketed
Nope.

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>>389409396
>implying Ike isnt the most well known and loved lord besides marth

ffs they dont even have henry or ephraim

>>389419502
At least for a time Persona taking off in popularity didn't hurt the other parts of the SMT franchise. Strange Journey still came out and was great, Devil Survivor was good, and the second Raidou game was okay. Then they shitcanned Kaneko and the mainline has been shit ever since while no new spinoffs get made.

There's only one series in the Fire Emblem franchise. The closest we've gotten to a Persona/mainline split was Fates which showed that IS is capable of making a good Fire Emblem game in the form of Conquest, but they can't make three versions of every new game. I'm pissed I don't get new games that are as good as the ones that I love. Awakening was the worst thing that ever happened to the series. It's like the Fallout 3 of Fire Emblem. Newfags and normalfags get to play their shitty waifu simulator while I'm wondering where my good SRPG series went.

>>389419506
I could get mad games exist that clearly aren't made for me and spend every waking minute of my life shitposting about it.

>>389419550
>Echoes
>Not heavily marketed
There were more adds for Echoes than Awakening or Fates whether that be through TV or online adds, and it even got the added bonus of a special banner in Heroes. To say it wasn't heavily marketed when compared to Awakening/Fates is a bold faced lie.

>>389419996
Woah, he actually did it.

>yfw awakening and fates fans boycott the next FE for no dating
They already shat on echos for not being a dating sim.

>>389420248
I'm boycotting the next FE for being on the Switch.

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>>389410496
>They said bizarre things like ‘Hayashi doesn’t know anything about Fire Emblem!’.

Fucking kek. Even the team knows FE is being ruined and that the man in charge is retarded. Nothing bizarre there Hayashi.

>>389420343
What system could it be on?
3DS is dying out.

>>389420343
It being on the Switch is one of the only things I'm hopeful about.

>>389420169
>conflating tv and online
>accusing others of lying
>having no actual data to support your premise
Pathetic.

>>389420248
Oldfag turned nufag here, I spend too much on Hero trying to roll my waifus and was having a burnout on FE. So I didn't brought Echoes. I'm kinda worrying now about all these FE games being release lately, felt like IS and Nintendo is milking FE too much.

>>389416206
>>389416330
> No Dorcas

>>389412517
Echoes gameplay was so shit it actually managed to got me to finish Birthright and Revelations because Echoes made them seem less terrible by comparison.

This is coming from someone who not only bought Echoes on launch, but the full fucking DLC season pass. The fucking DLC was WAY better than the main game because it was original content, how terrible was Gaiden for that to happen?

>>389420169
There was a couple spotlights on official nintendo media and some commercials on adult swim in the dead of night.
That's not heavy marketing.

>>389423565
They needed to remake the content of Gaiden's maps. It needed to be a full overhaul. Of course that would require work so they just copy pasted the unfinished mess that was Gaiden's content.

And jesus anon, you bought the season pass? Why didn't you just pirate it?

>>389419502
people are bitter that nintendo fucked up with their handling of pre3ds FE.

>>389424185
>And jesus anon, you bought the season pass? Why didn't you just pirate it?

I fucking love Fire Emblem and wanted to support IS. Unfortunately, the only three FE games I have never played are FE1-3, so I had no idea what Gaiden was like besides 5-range bow memes.

I just hope we get FE4 and 5 remakes soon, I need the great barbecue and fog of war memes.

>>389424609
IIRC the director of Echoes said he would really like to remake FE6 next. That's pretty solid gameplay wise so even if they're lazy on remaking the content of the game, it should be fine. I really enjoyed the presentation of Echoes overall. The new artwork, voices, music, etc.

>>389423565
It was intentionally the same. The game was a side project made out of personal passion by the devs, who have a strong affinity for Gaiden, particularly the lead dev. They wanted to make it as faithful as possible in terms of gameplay, regardless of what the original maps were, while adding some extra elements to the plot like Berkut (IIRC he replaces a unit in a battle that was just 2 generic enemies in the original, giving the battle actual significance as a cornered man fighting with no hope to win).

>>389424705
Eh, FE6 is really boring, but i heard Echoes really overhauled Gaiden's story so it could turn out really well. All they need to do is handle Roy better. I get my niggas Deke and Rutger at least if FE6 is remade.

>>389424745
Fug, can't they have been FE1fags instead, I would love Shadow Dragon with non-shit animations and more dialogue.

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Echoes was such a mess but holy shit those animations and story were on point

>>389424745
>>389424946
I'm pretty sure the lead dev is the son of the director of Gaiden, so that's why it was so much of a passion project. Though I'd love if Echoes turns into a sub-series of remakes.

>>389424950
I'm a huge Hidarifag so even though the gameplay made me want to kill myself, the art had me rock hard the whole time.

I hope they bring all the QoL stuff and the cool animations to the next game.

>Enemies can ragdoll into rivers if killed next to one, or fall off the edge of a boat
>Horses fucking kick
>People counter immediately on parrying a blow or dodging one

>>389424946
No. Fuck Akaneia. We're done with it. Marth is dead. Fuck dragons. They degenerated oh no. They're gone. I want them to do something new goddammit.

Though I will agree that Shadow Dragon's animations are shit. I hate how people don't recognize how it was clear they didn't want to be working on it. Higher ups told them to make another handheld one because those sell so they half assed another handheld one. The stupid 3D models are all trying to recreate the GBA sprites and they look like dogshit. You know what? Fuck the GBA games too. Overrated pieces of shit.

>>389424950
Echoes had extraordinary presentation minus the awful CG anime cutscenes. Just smush Echoes presentation together with Conquest's level design and maybe throw in Radiant Dawn bonus EXP and you'd have a masterpiece.

>>389424946
Because FE1 was already redone twice and the game was made by his dad, plus he wanted to bring to life a game that brought him such fond memories of playing an old ass game with said dad.

>>389425520
I get that, but a sad story doesn't make Gaiden any less awful.

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>>389425415
>Just smush Echoes presentation together with Conquest's level design and maybe throw in Radiant Dawn bonus EXP and you'd have a masterpiece.
This is so simple but effective that I know IS will fuck up and go the other direction.

>>389425176
I usually turn off the animations about halfway through to save time, but goddamn I love that they keep getting better

>>389425565
Fair enough, but you asked why it wasn't FE1fags doing it or remaking it, and that's why, or at least what he stated in an interview.
I personally enjoyed Echoes greatly for the dungeon segments, but I know that's fairly divisive on /v/.

>>389419887

Because of smashfaggotry and absolutely nothing else.

His game sold like shit and it is one of the worst Fire Emblem games of all time.

>>389418506

Because he was the most recently released lord that people knew of.

Its like asking people what their favorite anything is. They're going to name the ones they know of first.

He was put in Brawl because he was the current new main character of Fire Emblem and no other reason. People are retarded and love empty-shell-main-characters.

>>389425920
RD is pretty shit but PoR is great

>>389410496
>even the team is against him
IS fucked up bad
IS fucked up really bad

>>389426179
FE10 was exactly what I wanted in an FE game. It solved the issue of snowballing with a core set of units extremely well by having a giant roster that's available only when and where it makes sense for that character to be. Gameplay/story integration like that is what I want more of in Fire Emblem. My major issue with most newer FE games is why x random dude with a temporary problem never leaves the army once you help him. FE9 did a great job explaining the characters' motivations but FE10 took those motivations and integrated them into the gameplay to make some really standout maps. Unless you're playing on harder difficulties or a 0% growth playthrough you almost never need to swap out your early game roster so having chapters that spotlight units you'd never use otherwise made the cast feel more diverse which also made a good chunk of the game (the parts without Haar) devoid of dominant strategies.

So nah, fuck off. FE10 was great.

>>389412031
>that Alm
WHY ARE WE STILL HERE
JUST TO SUFFER

>>389412031
>Corrin with Sandals

Either do it right or don't bother

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>>389425920
Are you perhaps a supporter of the slain thot Camilla?

Fire Emblem was never good.

>>389409396
>Awakening and Fates sold more copies. Therefore appealing to more people.
Oh boy let's look at what Awakening and Fates characters are in the top 40.
>2 Lucina (42,875) - Confirmed, but smashfags
>4 Tharja (29,540)
>7 Camilla (25,766) - Confirmed only recently
>8 Chrom (23,803) - Confirmed
>14 Cordelia (14,362) - Confirmed, lazy Hinoka clone
>15 Azura (14,198)
>16 Robin-M (14,149) - Confirmed, but smashfags
>18 Takumi (12,662) - Confirmed only recently
>19 Leo (12,175) - Confirmed only recently
>20 Henry (12,131)
>22 Nowi (10,571)
>23 Donnel (10,479)
>24 Robin-F (10,387) - Confirmed, both smashfags and a lazy clone
>25 Lon'qu (10,002)
>26 Tiki-13 (9,794)
>27 Gaius (9,465)
>29 Felicia (9,121)
>30 Elise (8,926) - Confirmed last week
>32 Niles (8,703)
>35 Anna-13 (8,431)
>37 Owain (8,383)
>40 Sakura (7,782) - Confirmed today

Great job they're doing appealing to the Awakening and Fates audiences. Good thing they got all the sub-40 royals like Lissa and Hinoka at least.