>all those negative steam reviews just for having denuvo

>>389371495
nmicro stutters

>>389371495
Yeah that's exactly it, you only get denuvo if you paid for the game.

The issue is that they never said it was going to have denuvo and anyone who preordered couldn't return it because 14 days had already passed when the game finally came out.

>>389371495
It makes it so I can't play Sonic Mania in my third-world mud hut.

>>389371495
>2 week delay for the game
>Didn't reveal it until a few users after launch found out about it
>"Forgot" to mention it
>Refunds are a pain in the ass because the Sonic 1 gift is triggering the 2 week refund clause
Take your pick.

>>389371558
Pretty sure that's a Windows issue mang.

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I'll just enjoy my superior platformer :)

It makes it so I have to be online to play the game, and that's terrible.

Don't bring up how I spend every hour of every day on /v/ and so I constantly have an internet connection, either. You fucking Denuvo apologist.

>>389372126
Crash 3 fucking sucks balls though

lmao http://igg-games com/sonic-mania-free-download.html

You have to be okay with botnet tho lul

>>389371495
what's wrong with that?
they're free to attach whatever shitty DRM and I'm free to buy the game, leave a negative review and refund

>>389371982
Pretty sure you're deflecting blame without any clue, champ.

I think what we're seeing is a new level of sour grapes.

>Sonic Mania comes out on consoles
>Everybody loves it, it receives universal acclaim

>Comes out on PC with DRM that has minimal effect
>"REEEEEEE THEY ADDED FUCKING DENUVO I'M PIRATING THIS SHIT"
>DRM gets cracked within a week
>"REEEEEEE THE GAME IS FUCKING HORRIBLE I'M PIRATING THIS SHIT"

You kids still don't understand that video games are business, the productions are made to provide profit and any way of protecting that profit will be used, even shitty and annoying digital restrictions management like denuvo. When you make business, you want to earn as much as possible for the effort and work you put into the product. Maybe one day, when you'll want to make your own software product or a company, you'll understand.

>>389372126
>on a cucksole
>superior to anything

>>389372751
>minimal effect
Pretty sure online only is a huge effect, console-lards would be up in arms about it as well.

>>389372751
>>Comes out on PC with DRM that has minimal effect
>>"REEEEEEE THEY ADDED FUCKING DENUVO I'M PIRATING THIS SHIT"
>>DRM gets cracked within a week
>>"REEEEEEE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PUT IN AMY ROSE I'M PIRATING THIS SHIT"
Fixed

>>389372751
That's not what sour grapes is

>>389372535
It has to do with Windows themes. They cause stuttering in most applications that aren't running fullscreen.
when windows 8 and 10 rolled out, they enforced the 'Aero' theme but removed the ability to turn it off that was present in Windows 7.
It's a known issue for some people. It's some mix of theme and hardware. Some people get it, some don't.
Whatever though, you got a hard on for hating Denuvo regardless of truth, so carry on.

>>389372335
igg games is legit, actually. no malware in their links.

>>389372857
Extremely minimal. We live in an age where you can use your phone as a hotspot for five seconds to start the game.

>delayed just to install rights restricting viruses
That's how.
I bought the game because it is legitimately good and I want to see more.
As soon as the game is cracked I'm getting rid of the denuvo filth.

>>389372751
Did they delay the console version for 2 weeks just so they could shove in DRM and make refunds a living hell?

>>389372950
How do i know it isn't a rootkit or something?

>>389372905
Sure it is. PCfags are upset that consolenigs got the game first, so they're finding any and all excuses to talk shit about it.

>>389372950
lel ok

I download games from then like once a week and I'm infested. Its ok tho I plan on getting an SS sometime and just reformat everything.

>>389372981
>We
You give them too much credit. Niggers complaining about this shit are from Afghanistan and Syria and shit like that.

denuvo was once a great and powerful tool.
Then studios decided to abuse the shit on their barely optimal games. the tool becomes an hindered causing people who actually bought the game suffer.

now we see producers will put this shit on a $20 romhack and have the smallest amount of actual thought


best case scenario Denuvo will go out of business if these cracks keep coming faster and faster.

>>389372831
exactly, which is why as consumers our responsibility is to demonstrate that these archaic practices are ineffective and end up costing them sales

>>389373060
What if I like the game, but hate the extra DRM shit they put on it?

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Its okay.

>Late game has a lot of Sonic 4 style level design where you get launched towards an enemy and have a split second to hit the jump button or take damage.
>Chaos emerald levels are just plain unfun, blue spheres blow them out of the water in every regard.
>Story is a cluster fuck that isn't very clear. Not something I could ever say about Sonic 3
>Too many scrolling bosses.
>No attempt to make the music sound like genisis, instead we get nigger levels of remixing existing tracks and trying to remake already good songs.
>To many auto sections, half of most levels is just you watching Sonic as if its a 3D sonic game.
>Shameless Forces tie in, probably to appease Sega

They got the momentum feeling right though and thats all I really ask out of sonic. They also had the good sense to not add in the game ruining homing attack

>>389373060
>everything is about muh consolewars
good goy

>>389373235
Then get the crack.

>>389373079
>I'm retarded, therefore this site is to blame

>>389373394
I know, I was trying to tell him why the PC base was upset.

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>>389371495
IT'S NOT FAIR!

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>there's some guy that wants fucking Nack to be the player 4 of Mania 2
Look how out of place this is. Now let's pretend it's, say, Amy Rose. Would SHE be that out of place? Didn't think so.

>>389371495
>how is denuvo affecting you?
I don't want to rape my CPU with hundreds of thousands of drm triggers every seconds just because a faggot jew publisher thinks the hypotethical money of some poorfag slav that never bought a game in his life is worth fucking me over for.

>>389372992
it's already cracked buddy

>>389373079
probably from all the tranny porn you watch m8

>>389373635
Very good. I'll be downloading that next time I play.

>>389372992
You can uninstall it mate, the game was just cracked.

>>389373725
See
>>389373698

>>389371779
spbp

>>389373760
I accidentally saw the post too late.

>>389373567
Amy Rose was one of the original 4 characters.

Sonic 1: Sonic (obviously)
Sonic CD: Amy
Sonic 2: Tails
Sonic 3: Knuckles

Amy wasn't playable but neither was Nack, and he only showed up in a Game Gear game so he's about as irrelevant as it gets.

It would take 7000 copies of mania to be sold that otherwise wouldn't have been sold, plus making up whatever copies were lost due to people that would have otherwise bought refusing to buy the game with denuvo to make back the $100.000 from the denuvo license.
Somehow I doubt it was worth it.

>>389373931
Thank you, exactly. Nobody gives a fuck about the game gear games anyway.

>>389373567
Amy would make way more sense and I'm not even a sonic fag. That suggestion in that pic just looks like straight up furry shit.

>>389374207
Nackfags are notorious furries and he's an ugly character anyway, he looks too different. However Amy is pure. The choice is clear.

>>389371495
Because in ten years time denuvo servers will be shut down and I will be unable to legitimately play the game I payed for on pc. Denuvo is one of the most anti-consumer software out there today and everyone should be against it

>>389374158
The game gear games are good for what they are, and I actually like the system quite a bit. Doesn't make Nack any more relevant of a character though.

>>389374323
>Implying you'll even be able to install the game on the then-current OS in 10 years time.
Fuck Microsoft for not supporting my games for eternity! Let's all go shit on all the Microsoft games on the Steam library!

>>389371495
It isn't:

>Sonic.Mania-CPY

Master System Sonic was a cool game. I can barely remember it, but I know it was different and harder.

It's been cracked now though so pirates can play it and I'm happy that more can enjoy the game.

And now I can play it on my dual core laptop since it won't rape the performance now that Denovo is gone.

>>389374323
Yes yes the sky is falling and north korea is going ot nuke us

>>389373931
>>389374463
Well to be fair he's more relevant to Mania than Amy is. His face is plastered all over Mirage Saloon Zone, and you get to fight a mirage of him, but Amy only gets a doll. The Sonic CD reps are more the stages, and Metal Sonic.
I did however see some unused graphics of a love tester with a real Amy cameo, was that a thing? Why was that cut?

>>389372852
I already got to 100% the game weeks ago while you're still here crying about having to pay for it.

>>389373194
>an hindered
A hindrance.

>>389374858
Already beat it with mods.
>dedicated "Super Sonic" button, instashield, super peelout, and dropdash all at once in save mode
Feels great. I'll also give it another playthrough whenever the Super Emerald/Hidden Palace restoration mod comes out.

>>389371495

PC was a mistake

>>389375818
>pcfags need to feel superior for playing the game in easy mode

>>389371495
>I don't get it, you paid for the game, how is denuvo affecting you?

It got delayed 2 weeks for it retard

>>389374615
>implying I won't be able to
Windows 7 is 9 years old right now and is still being supported and allowed games to be installed. I am pretty sure I'll be able to play this game on windows 10 in 10 years time

>>389374770
I doubt any computer from the last 10 years would have trouble with this game anyway

>>389375818
>needing cheats to beat a Sonic game

>>389371495
My brother got it for me as a gift. I don't really care about the DRM so its not effecting me at all.

>game companies pay denuvo millions and millions to develop crack-free anti-pirate software
>denuvo is cracked in a week
Is denuvo the biggest scam out there in the industry right now?

>>389372751
Did they remove Denuvo from the legit copies after it got cracked? Because if they haven't then Denuvo is still an issue.

>>389372751
>DRM with minimal effect

>>389376623
Kinda, it's either denuvo or some ancient arcane copy protection that's going to be cracked instantly. Or always online like Blizzard's games.

>>389376062
you'd be surprised what hundreds of thousands of CPU legitimacy checks a second can do to an old processor

>>389371495
I can still play my old carts whenever I want. Can't with this pos version.

Thankfully pirates of all fucking things fixed that. Nice job breaking it Sega! you could have actually made a better version but instead just assured nobody with sense will pick up this gimped shit.

>always online
>unnecessary performance burden
>prevents proper modding
>SEGA scammed people out of their right to refund, by "gifting" them sonic 1 and delaying it 14 days

>>389372950
>>389372335
the torrents link from IGG are shady tho

>>389376623
Yes. Anyone who wasn't going to pay in the first place wont be bothered waiting an extra week to do so.

So whatever sega spent on this just went down the same shit hole all the good PR they had been getting went.

>>389377401
If you bought on console you could play your game whenever

>>389377716
Yeah but then you'd have to play on console. That's just gross.

>>389377804
You have to play your carts on console anyway so not sure what your point is

>>389373567
amy would be out of place because she's not naked

>>389377716
Am aware of the consoles. Doesn't matter.
Pirates have the best fucking version of the game right now. Moddable as fuck, playable when you want. Kind of a shit thing to happen.

>>389377928
This happens with damn near every game anon

>>389377862
Imagine Amy naked haha

>>389377196
I might be, but I also played this entire game on a J1900 system hooked up to a CRT and had no trouble with it at all. Even though it's a modern design, the single thread performance is similar to Core 2 era laptop processors.

>>389377851
Yeah but not the same console. I guess if you weren't retarded you wouldn't be trying to get people to buy consoles.

>>389378104
I'm not trying to get anybody to buy consoles I just pointed out that you can play the game whenever you want on console.
If you bought one console you're already indoctrinated.
If you bought on PC just crack it.
So I'm not sure what you're whining about

>>389373295
Blue Sphere is one of the worst mini-games in existence. I'd rather play that fucking Mario Party shit where you had to rotate the N64 joystick like a mad man than fucking BS.

>>389375951
>>389376083
>sour grapes
Keep it comin'

>>389371495
>Vote with your wallet and speak out against the problems you have
>Why are you guys complaining?! they are just doing their job and trying to prevent piracy by fucking a game so you literally root for the pirates so it gets removed.

>>389379443
Anon I own the game on PC. It's just retarded to use cheats then claim superiority. Great that you enjoyed the game.

>>389373295
>instead we get nigger levels of remixing existing tracks and trying to remake already good songs.
ironically hydrocity and greenhill act 1 didnt get remixed much and they're easily the worst in the game for it.

>>389372126
Crash was never good we have sunk so far that a Ps4 remaster of the crash trilogy is a best seller

>>389371558
>they were real in my mind!

>>389375818
Thanks for beta testing the latest patch :^)

>>389373012
there is a refund system on console?

>>389371495
denuvo is anti consumer and simply shady software

>>389377716
>until the hardware is broke, the next console is out, the server is offline...

>>389373295
>No attempt to make the music sound like genisis
Because they were trying to aim for CD quality Saturn Redbook Audio music...?

I'm pretty sure multiple times they said theyre trying to make it a "lost saturn game".

Songs like Hydrocity 2 and LavaReef 2 sounded like what you'd get if Sonic 3 was made for the SEGA CD/Saturn.

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>>389373295
>>Chaos emerald levels are just plain unfun, blue spheres blow them out of the water in every regard.
man SO MUCH shit taste!

>>389371495
Gamers are mad that someone dare try to take steps to oppose piracy even when said software is unnoticeable unless you were actually looking to pirate the game. GGers and people who pirate AKA gamers, they're all the same and whine about every little thing that inconveniences your privileged lives, basically the suburban moms of millennials. It's why yall are all considered losers.

>>389381274
>the hardware is broke
You know you can just redownload the game or better yet transfer your backup. You do back up your data right?
>next console
Which doesn't magically erase your current console from existence.

Both of those issues would apply to the carts too.

>server is offline
Unless I'm missing something you can already play the console version offline

>>389381819
>Which doesn't magically erase your current console from existence.
tell that to nintendo

>>389381819
>>server is offline
I was talking about how the game wouldn't be downloadable

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>>389377607
>Correctly downloading Agents of M.A.Y.H.E.M torrent because fuck downloding 40 different parts
Am I'm already fucked?

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>>389373295
>>Chaos emerald levels are just plain unfun, blue spheres blow them out of the water in every regard.
The fuck you talking about.
The chaos emerald levels are fucking fun as fuck.
You have a good sense of control and mobility, you've got a ring counter which gives you a sense of urgency to get more rings and you have a MACH counter which increases speed but also diminishes your handling which makes it a risk/reward system.

It was like the CD special stages without the stupid time-killing water and having to rotate 180 degrees just because the UFO zipped to the side within a split second and with an actual goal in front of you. Fuck it's probably the best special stage in all of Sonic.

It needed a Sonic1+Knuckles Bluesphere Seed system where it has shitloads of levels because getting one chance and failing it and having to find another ring to just replay it is the only part I hated.

>Bluespheres blow them out the water
>Limited visibility
>Limited control
>Relies mostly on memorisation
>Speeds up even when youre just looking for bluespheres
>So easy to get lost

Yeah, how about getting better taste.

>>389382058
If you bought it you already downloaded it. This is why backup exist.
This is like arguing against physical media by saying the cart will eventually corrode.

>>389381936
I still have and play on my Wii U. Nintendo encourages everyone to switch but I plan on keeping my Wii U even if I get a new console

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Steam is already a form of DRM. Why do we need denuvo on top of steam?

Sonic Mania is like the gilette razors locked behind the glass at walmart.

>>389371495

PC master race everybody

>>389382352
>Steam is already a form of DRM.
it's not.
Many games are DRM free on steam.

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post your most wanted mod.

>>389382672
Knuckles with Hat

>>389382229
There's literally nothing wrong with Blue Sphere's mechanics, some of the levels are bullshit though.

>>389379875
>cheats
They're unlockables you retard. Actually play the game.

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>>389382959
I never said the mechanics were bad or wrong, they just don't provide gameplay as engaging as Sonic Mania's special stages. They function and thats all.

>>389382229
mania stages are great, but blue sphere is very good in 3&k where difficulty is much, much lower than in mania.
blue sphere is easily the best special stage on genesis - cd has sloppy framerate, 2 has sloppy framerate and terrible ai combined with tight patterns and 1 has that lack of responsiveness that makes the stages not as fun as they could be

>let's make a boss that takes like 5 minutes, most of it waiting around for good timing and good RNG
What were they thinking with that Metal Sonic boss fight?

>>389382672
>that pic
what

>>389382229
>The fuck you talking about.
>The chaos emerald levels are fucking fun as fuck.
Stopped reading there. If you can't type like a big boy, just take it back to the YouTube comments section.

>>389372126
the fact that crash is best seller and the dark souls of its genre says a lot about the world today

>>389383292
>>389383227
BlueSphere are good, Though I have more fun with CD to be honest. the PC port fixed the bad framerate and resolution of the mode7 map.

Mania > CD > 3 >>>1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>shit>>>>>>>>>>>2

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>>389382672
Somari.

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>>389383459
>and the dark souls of its genre

>>389383436
>I'll ignore your fleshed out point because you don't reach my higher level of etiquette
Kindly fuck yourself anon.
Thanks for showing how illiterate and weak-willed at arguments you are though.

>>389371495
Reminder that this was officially cracked yesterday and is completely playable should you decide to pirate it.

>>389383754
>doesn't know what an argument is either
I made the right choice. Here's a tip, just go ahead and look it up on wikipedia.

>>389372126
Why the fuck are they jizzing themselves over this remake that look like a unity fanmade game.
Christ, that Tomb Raider 2 remake in UE4 look so fucking much better despite the fact it was made by a single man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0T8568ItiQ

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>>389371495
>tfw spent the 20 bucks on alcohol instead of buying the game and pirating this game right now.

comfy

>>389382229
Emerald levels suck if you had autism and can't multi task.

>>389371495
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHY IS THERE DENUVO
its cracked
>FINALLY I CAN PIRATE IT XD

top kek

>>389372831
>Spend $$$$$$$$$$ on proprietary DRM that's proven to not work
>expect it to do fuck all
>Especially when you already made pirates wait 2 weeks just to add this DRM, you think they care about waiting another week for the crack?
>"But at least we protected our sales!"

>>389383208
They're limited to no save mode and balanced around only having one ability at a time. This is like claiming hacking fierce deity so you can use it anywhere is perfectly legit

>>389384196
nah for me it's like
>why is there denuvo
game is cracked
>why is there denuvo on this game i paid $20 for

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What if Denuvo is a scam?

>create mediocre DRM
>ask all the big cracking groups not to crack it
>share your revenue with them in return

>>389379443
At least finish the game once unmodded and the do a modded run.

You are actually cheating.

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>>389384453
real question now
>Why I care if it's completely invisible, and I wouldn't have noticed it if nobody told me about it

>>389384607
principles

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>>389384829

>>389374615
Hoq old are you, kid? I play decade old Windows games all the time - especially 2D stuff. There's no reason why I wouldn't wanna hypothetically give this a replay 10 years from now.

>>389384607
Better question:

>Why would i accept the downright lies of a company who ruined the proper experience of a game for an entire user platform, out of fear of the empty words of a couple of trolls in an unofficial stream of the game?

>>389374615
lil?
I can still play a game like Unreal Tournament 99 on my win10.

>>389385226
>who ruined the proper experience
what proper experience?
That DRM change NOTHING to the game.
it's invisible.
You know it only because people on the internet told you so.

>>389384434
After you unlock something you should be able to use it however you want. Arbitrary limitations are lazy game design.

>>389384595
That's how you unlock them. Unless you quit midway through your game for some reason.

>>389383459
>and the dark souls of its genre

gave me a chuckle there, m8

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>>389384909
You think I'm some level 1 fedora? Hello re.ddit I'm on level 8, get the fuck off my /v/

>>389385414
Sure, but beating the game that way is nothing to brag about.
If you can't beat it with vanilla gameplay mechanics you can't beat it at all.

>>389385402
Could be referring to the delay if nothing else.

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>>389385573
topkek

>Be honest paying customer
>Have to wait two weeks for Sega to add bloatware/malware that prevents offline play and causes performance issues for some users

>>389371495
The can't play it on thier laptops at the mall

>>389385490
Unless you mod

>>389385573
holy shit

It's the towering pillar of hats in real life

>>389385623
>2 weeks in summer
>for a game we waited 20 years
>the end it all, when we wanted above all a new engine for the fanmade games

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>>389385573

>>389385668
>The can't play it on thier laptops at the mall
how so?

>>389385573
What an absolute lad

>delay game for a week
>kill modding system
>add a DRM system that shits itself when online on an offline game
>said DRM also eats SSDs
>don't tell Devs, then leave them under the bus when fans get mad
>bad relationship with Devs threatens possibility of a sequel
>game gets cracked inside of a week anyways and suffers MORE piracy as a result of bad press
Gee I wonder why people are mad at Sega.

Is it possible to play online (Time attack) with the cracked version? I want to compete with Leaderboard

>>389373194
>$20 romhack
I am pissed about Denuvo, but lets be fair. They recreated all the assets outright. This was no romhack.

>>389385930
uh no you retard. play by yourself like the scum you are

>>389385402
You are right, the DRM doesnt affect the game per se but theres 2 things.

>Denuvo doesnt allow for exe modification, key for potential modding of the game, a feature a lot of people wanted to try give how the retroengine is clearly superior to gamemaker.

>despite that, i wasnt taking about the DRM.

We were promised the game this august 15th like everyone else, but those trolls denied us of that for 2 whole weeks.

Not only sega lied to us by adding unnecessary antipiracy measures, but also made pc users UNABLE to properly enjoy and discover the game since spoilers are simply unavoidable, and yhe entire game got spoiled by the time we got to play.

Not only pc users were shafted, we were basically told ' you want to play? Too bad heres our sloppy seconds covered in shit!'.

Please tellme, how is that even remotely fair

>>389385573
a true gentlemanne of lesiure

>>389385872
>>kill modding system
false
>add a DRM system that shits itself when online on an offline game
false
>said DRM also eats SSDs
false
>bad relationship with Devs threatens possibility of a sequel
false

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>there are still faggots that claim denuvo only affects pirates
lmao

>>389386047
It's fair because pc players always pirate. You deserve it because you fuckers refuse to buy anything

>>389385617
>If you can't beat it with vanilla gameplay mechanics
You're either being purposefully obtuse or you have the reading comprehension of a sponge. Enjoy your sour grapes.

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>>389382672
replace blue spheres with gumball machine and pic related

>>389385573
The hero we need but don't deserve.

>>389386047
>and discover the game since spoilers are simply unavoidable, and yhe entire game got spoiled by the time we got to play.
just don't go to /v/ holy shit.
I managed to avoid the spoilers despite browsing youtube, twitter, and tumblr.
>two weeks is an eternity!
calm your tits, especially when what we also wait is all the modding.

>>389386234
systems like the wii, ds, and psp all had higher rates of piracy you fucking cuck, get off your high horse already.

>>389377716
>without mods

hahhahahahahhaha

consoles are literally for morons

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>steam autists literally downvoting the game because they don't like the DRM

>>389385573
put me in the screencap

>>389386234
Fuck you, that is not a fair answer and you know it.

For starters, i preordered like a bunch of other people.

>>389386363
Easy for you to say, consolebro.

I can bet if pc users got the game first you would be pissing your pants worse.

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why would you buy a game if you can get the superior version for free?

>>389386104
Woah man really blew me away with those one-word responses.

*0.05$ has been deposited into your account*

>>389386494
>Easy for you to say, consolebro.
but I AM a pcfag.
I prefer waiting 2 more weeks if it mean I have a game with lots of bugfixes the console version have, more stuff, and mods
>but le denuv-
already answered.

>>389386169
>get cracked to hell and back
> can't strenghten the protection anymore, so they just spam millions of triggers hoping it would work, damned be performance
>they start to use unlicensed reverse engineering protection, VMware finds out and will sue them to oblivion
Is there a bigger collection of cucks than Denuvo?

>>389385872
>said DRM also eats SSDs
This was bullshit and it hurts the rest of the valid criticism of Denuvo to keep spreading 3 year old rumors. One person on a forum made that claim (It always leads back to a single post on RPG Codex, and that person is still quoting someone else) and it was never repeated or verified by anyone, but tons of clickbait news sites ran stories about it.

>>389371495
I don't like being punished for actually buying stuff.

>>389386760
>VMProtect

>>389386494
you can't fucking not click on a thread? i havent been spoiled about the game at all. no wonder you sperg out over antipiracy measures, youre fucking dumb as fuck.

>>389386676
mods are already coming.
game can be played offline without any issue.
No one managed to prove that Denuvo indeed eats SSD, despite the fact the drm is quite old.
Only sales will determine if we will have a sequel or not (and if devs actually want it).

>>389372751
>DRM that has minimal effect
>requires a constant and consistent online connection
>single player game
Yeah, nah, you're a retard.

>>389386737
If thats true, then im sorry.

However we both know that as long as denuvo is there, the game will never reach its true potential.

And its clear that sega will never remove it by default, and modders wont allow implementations of mods using cracked versions.

>>389373295
>Late game has a lot of Sonic 4 style level design where you get launched towards an enemy and have a split second to hit the jump button or take damage.

What? Mania is easily THE most generous classic game when it comes to not launching you directly at traps

>>389371495
Anything that affects the long-term life and accessibility of a game is cancer and needs to go.

>>389373295
>To many auto sections, half of most levels is just you watching Sonic as if its a 3D sonic game.

Try staying off the easiest/slowest paths sometime

>>389371495
SSD killing

>>389386953
>that as long as denuvo is there
Just Cause 3 managed to fucking have a fanmade multiplayer mode. I think you overestimate what Denuvo will block when it come to modding.
>And its clear that sega will never remove it by default,
why not?
and modders wont allow implementations of mods using cracked versions.
why not?

>>389372857
Online only was patched out though in less than 24 hours though. Actually read up on shit.

>>389387107
Wasn't that debunked almost straight away?

>>389387126
1.- sonic retros research has concluded that exe modification will be required to fully open the game, denuvo doesnt allow that.

2.-sega delayed the game 2 weeks SPECIFICALLY to implement this shit, that should tell you enough.

3.-using cracked exes for modding IS piracy and since sonicretro is the main sonichacking hq and ALSO the mania devs hanging spot it wont be allowed there unless sega retires denuvo on their own.

>>389386917
>mods are already coming.
Except its still not known how to replace in-game files
>game can be played offline without any issue
Flat out wrong
>No one managed to prove that Denuvo indeed eats SSD, despite the fact the drm is quite old.
Its been explained hundreds of times why Denuvo damages SSDs. Unless you're a component engineer, fuck off
>Only sales will determine if we will have a sequel or not (and if devs actually want it).
Some of the devs have already reacted pretty strongly to how Sega handled the PC launch, and Sega has been infamous for being untenable to work with for DECADES, especially between Japanese and Western teams.

*0.05$ has been deposited into your account*

>>389385829
No internet to connect thier laptips to in thier hick one horse town

>>389387385
>To many auto sections, half of most levels is just you watching Sonic as if its a 3D sonic game.

There's no evidence of this AT ALL. For all we know Denuvo was ready right away and the delay was for the numerous bug fixes that are in the PC version.

Not to mention the people who announced the delay didn't even know about Denuvo until the game launched.

>>389387575
Shit wrong quote

>>389387506
2.-sega delayed the game 2 weeks SPECIFICALLY to implement this shit, that should tell you enough.

>>389387506
>Its been explained hundreds of times why Denuvo damages SSDs. Unless you're a component engineer, fuck off
Source it. Internet searches only give completely unverified forum posts with unrepeatable methods and clickbait articles about said forum posts.

>>389387506
>Flat out wrong
falt out true
>Its been explained hundreds of times why Denuvo damages SSDs. Unless you're a component engineer, fuck off
now that's flat out wrong :)

>>389387534
then they wouldn't have been able to download it anyway and complain about it on the Internet.
It really jogg my hedgehog.

>>389375818
>needs cheats to beat a sonic game
kek, pathetic

When S3&K and Sonic CD came to PC with the Sega PC collection, I can tell you I was very happy I wouldn't have to buy a fucking megacd, or a pricey cartridge.

Two more weeks for a game I will still probably play 10 years later just like the classic Sonic games seem fine, especially when I noticed all those youtube video complaining about glitch and bugs in the console version.

>>389371495
>I don't get it, you paid for the game, how is denuvo affecting you?
Devuno ONLY affects people that pay.

>>389387854
those are unlockables

>>389388050
>thinking they bugfixed the PC release
Lmao

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>>389371495

>>389388139
but they did

>>389371495
>how is denuvo affecting you?
long startup time
stuttering
loading/saving microfreezes
wonky offline mode
publishers wont patch it out when it goes under

you can check nudoom for the first 3 claims, CPY version (which still has denuvo, but the triggers are given an OK, basically emulating a legit copy) has some stuttering while autosaving and when certain enemies spawn, which is absen in the denuvo removal patch

>denuvo shills everywhere
just fuck off
https://whyisdenuvobad.github.io/

>>389388136
Yes, usually players earn them. They don't just mod them in at the start of the game for bragging rights on /v/, you are a pathetic cuck who can't beat a childrens game without cheating

>>389388259
>ong startup time
>stuttering
>loading/saving microfreezes
>wonky offline mode
all of that is true in my head too!

>>389388139
they literally did

>>389388343
>They don't just mod them in at the start of the game for bragging rights on /v/
Neither does anyone else, they still have to be unlocked. Except now after your first playthrough, you can combine them, and trust me, it's really fucking fun and satisfying to use these moves together. Shame you'll never get to play it.

>>389372950
>Legit
You need to legit kill yourself

>>389371495
why is /v/ the only board that defends DRM
I don't get it

>>389388285
All of these except the offline mode section and the payment section also apply to the Playstation, Xbox, Nintendo, and theoretical original Steamworks version as well. None of it is sourced though, someone should fix that.

>>389388465
The broken offline mode was true.

>>389388676
Contrarianism is a disease

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>>389388546
>act like a retard
>get BTFO
>start backpedaling
kek, you get more pathetic by the second

>>389371495
Denuvo does harm people who have shitty unreliable internet and people in bad storms.
Other than that, it's fine. PC users are literally just the niggers of gaming.

>>389388704
>The broken offline mode was true for not even 23 hours.

Oops, >>389388756
meant for
>>389388343

>>389388879
>Denuvo does harm people who have shitty unreliable internet and people in bad storms.
wrong

>>389379857
This doesn't mean pirate the game, turd-burglar.

When Sega hears about the great reception it receives, since it's being played so much, they'll double down on denuvo.

I swear piratefags are the stupidest cunts.
Just admit you're poor.
You're not doing anymore a favor.

I bet you own a Rick and Morty tshirt.
Stick it to the man and tell them how much you love their game.

>>389388676
it's quite clear that everyone who complains about drm are people who pirate and then get self-righteous about "principles" to pretend they aren't just pirating because they are poor or want to save money.

>>389388756
>NOOO YOU CAN'T MODIFY SONIC GAMES! YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE UNLOCKABLES IN WAYS I CAN'T! IT'S JUST FUCKING WRONG!!! IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW FUN IT IS!!!
Sourest grapes in the universe

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>>389389112
>get BTFO
>try to falseflag
>create strawman to fight instead
How about you just be good at games and not need cheats to win?

>>389389063
I literally bought the game full price on a version without DRM 2 weeks ago and still pirated the game to fuck over Sega. Stay mad

>>389389259
>I literally bought the game full price on a version without DRM
You literally didn't do this.

>>389389259
so you played the leaked Switch version.
nice

>>389388747
No it isn't. Circlejerking is.

>>389389202
>get BTFO
>try to falseflag
>create strawman to fight instead
Exactly what you did after saying using mods to mix unlockables is bad, kek.

>>389389259
>make post about piraters pretending to buy games in the most convoluted and unnecessary ways to be self righteous
>pirater pretends to have bought the game after apparently "buying" a non-drm version so he can be self-righteous
like clockwork lmao. like you must be a fucking retard to think people would believe this

>>389389314
>>389389362
>this mad that consoles got a non-fucked version weeks in advance

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>>389371495
Post times
Show the world you are not a casual.

>>389389619
>saying using mods to mix unlockables is bad
point out the post where I said that, I'll wait and we'll add moving goalposts to your fallacy list

>>389386465
>Delayed the game for the sole purpose of putting in Denuvo
>Denuvo not even on the console versions, and consoles have more rampant piracy than PCs
>Didn't announce Denuvo. Not even on the store page
>Prevented all offline play. Even past the 'first time start up'.
>When called out, they had a patch and lied about it's removal.

I did my part and put a negative review up for Sonic Mania. Did you?

>>389386405
Literally irrelevant to the topic discussed

Can anyone confirm if playing Mania offline is possible with the new patch?

>>389385573
>640x360 gif
>fills almost entire screen
fake

>>389389664
There is no platform where Sonic Mania is available to purchase without DRM. Being mad has nothing to do with it.

>>389389969
>Denuvo not even on the console versions, and consoles have more rampant piracy than PCs
Your other points are completely valid, but since Denuvo has always been for Windows I'm not sure why you would even consider the fact that it's not on consoles. They use their own DRM implementations.

>>389390264
you can zoom in you know that right

>>389389969
Denuvo is specifically for PC. This is like whining that Windows isn't on PS4

>>389371495
>Sega still trying to run damage control
Fuck off outta here and use the effort to remove Denuvo.

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>>389388676
I don't get why people can't just like a game.

I honestly just bought Sonic Mania on a whim and didn't give a shit about the hype. Played it, still playing it weeks later, and 2 weeks later people are bitching about denuvo.

It's a genuinely fun and enjoyable game, which for modern day platformers it's a rarity because all platformers nowadays just tries to be the next big rogue-like game.

All-in-all, this just shows how fragile the PC community is that they rather ruin the reputation of a programmer who had nothing to do with the company's decision and the game that came along with it because of the "principle".

>>389390531
>>389390469
And yet the point is still valid. You could own this on a console and not have to put up with this despite consoles having worse piracy.

>>389390212
If you can play it offline is luck of the draw, I think. Denuvo was toned down from ALWAYS ON to "might check". If it checks, you get fucked.

>>389390792
You have to put up with playing on console, which is objectively worse in every conceivable way because you still have to deal with Xbox/Sony/Nintendo drm and there are no cracks or mods.

>>389386938
no it doesnt

>>389390469
>There is no platform where Sonic Mania is available to purchase without DRM
Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

>>389390904
>You have to put up with playing on console
That is actually a fair point.

>>389391006
So where can I buy DRM free Sonic Mania, then?

>>389391098
Not for a platformer it isn't.
Hell it only applies to FPSs RTSs and MMOs

>>389391183
Yeah it is. Locked into the shitty Xbox controller for example.
No 4k unless you shell out for a whole new box.
No mods

>>389391312
So the only issues are superficial.
In other words, it's non applicable.

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>>389371779

>>389383962
no, he has a gf I think

>>389391169
You know full damn well that DRM in this case is referring to Denuvo. Control your autism.

>>389391312
>shitty Xbox controller
Woah! Where'd that come from? Xbox has always had 10/10 controllers.

>>389391559
>Xbox has always had 10/10 controllers.
Are you retarded? OG Xbox Hueg was terrible and the 360 has a fucking awful D-pad. Dunno about the Xbone, heard it was really good

>>389391404
>choice of controller
>gameplay mods
>superficial

>>389391559
Dpad is dogshit after five fucking iterations of the controller
The Duke wasn't good, the 360 controller was a fragile piece of crap and the Bone controller is an improvement but the only notable positive is the trigger.

>>389371828
Can you source where they said it would never have Denuvo? I don't remember them saying much of anything about DRM or lack thereof before release

>>389371779
word
you only get treated like a thief if you actually buy the game
technical problems denuvo causes are fairly negligible but it's a matter of principle.

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>>389391507
>I literally bought the game full price on a version without DRM
>literally

>>389391771
Yes anon, those things are superficial.

>>389392009
You can be a retard and think gameplay is superficial.
Whatever fries your tendies

>>389392148
>and think gameplay is superficial.
The gameplay being the same on each and every system you play it on.
Only an idiot would attribute controller and modding capabilities as a part of the gameplay.

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>>389385573

>>389392310
It's not the same if you're using a shit controller.
It's like having sex with a condom on. Deadened and unsatisfactory.
Mods are a gameplay change that does make a difference.

>>389391914
So basically in your eyes, any kind of DRM is unacceptable? I hate shit like Starforce or always online requirements, but I don't really see how Denuvo is more intrusive then, say, Steam.

>>389391771
>>choice of controller
>>gameplay mods
>>superficial
In what world do they matter?
Even if you're using the 360 controller's D-pad it's still fine for a 2D platformer like Sonic. Mods in and of themselves are completely meaningless and only exist for people who were personally dissatisfied with the vanilla game.

So yeah, they kind of fit the bill of superficial.

>>389392509
Nigger the game is designed to work with 4 directional inputs and 1 action button. Controller differences are extremely minimal.

As for mods, yeah they're nice to have but this isn't a Bethesda game that's unplayable without them.

>>389371908
it's already cracked senpai

>>389392651
What might be acceptable to you is unacceptable to many other people. Even if you think the difference is small it's still a difference. You still get more of a choice on PC. So no, it's not superficial. Indeed, the controller is fundamental to playing any games.
>>389392657
So go play it with an Atari joystick since the difference is so minimal.

>>389392856
>What might be acceptable to you is unacceptable to many other people
So you agree it's superficial then. After all if it wasn't then there would be more people complaining about it huh.

>>389391693
The one has the same shitty depad and the shoulder buttons are a real pain to press

actually Denuvo ONLY affects paying customers, pirates don't experience it at all

>>389373567
I want to SUCK Fang the Sniper

>>389383326
Spindash into the little Silver Sonics as they rev up for their own spindash. It connects every time.

>>389393060
Plenty of people complain about how shitty the Xbox pad is it's not like this is something new.
Bottom line is, there are differences if you play on PC and literally all of them give you a better experience than on console.

>>389392856
>He's never played Sonic with a Joystick
You're missing out, those things are compatible with a Mega Drive you know.

>>389391898
They didn't say that it would NEVER have denuvo, they NEVER said it would have denuvo

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>>389372126
Pc version incoming next month

>>389393269
I have though, which is why I mentioned it

Keyboard or 360 controller?

>This could have been one of, if not THE shining beacon demonstrating that modern games still having the potential to be amazing
>Denuvo had to ruin its reputation and now you can't talk about the game without it being brought up

Why bros

>>389393614
Literally any other controller

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>>389385573
those are bowler hats though

>>389371558
I only get them when rewinding in time attack.

>>389393797
The only other controller is a wheel.

>>389393264
>Plenty of people complain about how shitty the Xbox pad is it's not like this is something new.
For the Xbone controller?
Kind of is.

>there are differences if you play on PC and literally all of them give you a better experience than on console.
And it's only a better experience by your own opinion given that there's a far larger console userbase than PC it goes without saying that mods and controllers are fairly meaningless in the long run.

>>389393934
Use that
>>389393963
It's not my opinion. You can get exactly the same experience on PC as you do on console, or you can get a different experience tailored to you. That is objectively better.
Userbase doesn't have much to do with the experience. There's a million Honda Civic drivers, doesn't mean a Mercedes isn't a better car

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>denuvo has ruined it
Later this week it's going to be about how it's shit anyway regarless of denuvo.

>>389380851
YES.

>>389394127
>It's not my opinion.
That's exactly what it is anon.
You hold the opinion that mods and controller choice is better while others hold the opinion that convenience and in the case of the Switch portability is.
All of these things are ultimately pointless because they all provide the same thing to the player when it comes to general gameplay.

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>>389385573
absolute madman

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>>389371495
What did OP mean by this?

>>389394580
You get portability with a laptop.
I'm not sure how a console is supposed to be more convenient.
You turn it on, start up the game. You do the same on PC.
Hell I can set my PC up so that it runs the game and I can just sit down and play as soon as I get home and that doesn't even require any special software.

>>389394537
>consoles have the game
>it's good

>pc has the game
>it's good but denuvo

>denuvo is cracked
>suddenly the game is fucking terrible where the fuck is sonic adventure 3 ree

>>389389742
Point out where anyone said anything you claim they did. Fucking retard.

>>389395027
>You get portability with a laptop.
You don't. Especially not with Sonic Mania.
Not to mention there's still a fair amount of set up if you want to use a controller that isn't bluetooth.
On top of that it's not great for short journeys.
>You turn it on, start up the game. You do the same on PC.
This case with Sonic Mania should show you one of the many inconveniences of PC.

One more time what you hold is an opinion.

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>>389392578
DRM tends to fall in two categories:
There's DRM that treats you like a thief (Denuvo), and DRM that provides various quality of life features to make the users feel comfortable using it.

Steam as a DRM does prevent piracy in a lot of cases by requiring the Steam client to be installed and to sync your account, however Steam also has various conveniences such as its own store, a friends list, text and voice chat clients, developer-friendly APIs, achievements, profiles, etc. that make it feel more like a storefront with a social platform that just so happens to also be DRM. You can even use your games offline if the Steam client has synced your account before going offline, as well as use games installed from other users logged in on your PC.

Denuvo on the other hand is just straight up "you bought the game and we're going to check on you to see if you've still had it purchased by forcing you to only be able to run the game when I can phone home to mommy-servers". There's nothing friendly or lively about a strict DRM that provides nothing but an error message when you don't have a constant internet connection, especially if the game is a singleplayer-heavy game like Sonic Mania.

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>the current state of steam discussions

>>389396041
that najedslav guy would fit on /v/

>>389396041
I was just about to post this. You read my mind anon

>denuvo charges 100k upfront to use
>in order to pay for denuvo they would need to sell 50k units on pc where you're lucky to get half that
I hope sega learned their lesson

>>389396929
oh well, mania bombed, hope you like boost gameplay ;)

>>389371779
Woah!

>>389397027
More like "Pc version didn't give any money no more pc ports"

>>389397027
Well it bombed on PC at least.

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>no Amy Rose
this shit was never worth buying

>>389393314
Nu-Tom you are shit.

>>389395515
Most controllers are plug and play. Anything made in the past decade supports xinput. If mania supported directinput put then everything would be plug and play but that's beside the point.
Most consoles aren't good for short journeys either, the Switch sure. I'll give you that. Could play on a tablet though, even with a controller dock if you wanted a similar form factor.

You didn't present any case with Sonic mania where playing in console is more convenient.

Controllers are plug and play on both, though you can play with kbm or any wacky controller you choose on PC with a little setup.
Both can be played from a couch on the TV.
PS Pro supports native 4k as does pc, with PC able to go beyond that. Xbox S can upscale.
Both have the same gameplay, except PC allows modding and has a dedicated Super button.
Both fuck you in the ass with DRM, but PC can be cracked.

Where does console have an advantage?
While there are differences among consoles that might make you choose one over the other, the PC has the strengths of every console.

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>>389397328
Her advanced model was already modded in I am sure someone will get her working on mania

>>389397328
She kinda is in the game
https://youtu.be/VDjMQWKxIB4?t=2200

>>389397328
What faggot shit is this?

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>>389397328
Stop making Rosyboys look bad, you waifufag

>>389395515
So PC/Switch once again confirmed best combo.

>>389395515
not the guy you were responding to, but:
>You don't. Especially not with Sonic Mania.
they fixed that issue already
>Not to mention there's still a fair amount of set up if you want to use a controller that isn't bluetooth.
just plug it on the USB port, it's done
>On top of that it's not great for short journeys.
true, 3DS is way better for that

>This case with Sonic Mania should show you one of the many inconveniences of PC.
it's been fixed already

>>389400038
You're the guy from the other thread aren't you.

I feel like playing as I do is wrong. How do I play fast

>>389400362
I am. And the online thing has been fixed.

>>389400431
Git gud.
Speed is the reward for good platforming.

Why are people saying igg games is shady? How much tranny porn do they download for this kind of shit to happen to them?

>>389400526
Now how do I get gud

>>389400575
Aim for the top paths and use the drop dash more.

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>>389400431
Learn the physics, how to protect yourself in a ball while gaining high speeds & explore to learn the level design. Also keep in mind the game is made for multiple playthroughs so you'll have a better time as you go on.

>>389400707
>>389400676
I will do that. I assume Sonic and Tails is the "default" run, though Tails just seems useless

>>389400814
Tails is actually Easy Mode to people since you can easily get to the top path.

>>389400982
Oh? Tails just kind of hangs behind Sonic for me, so I guess I just don't know how to use that. I'll figure it out eventually though

>>389401075
I meant playing as him solo, I guess Sonic+Tails is the "default" mode but you can use him for flight with Sonic by holding up & pressing the jump button to grab onto him.

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Why aren't you playing Sonic Mania on a REAL CRT?

>>389371495
your problem is that you give a shit about it

like, don't... you'll be much happier

>>389400814
Tails = Easy mode because higher jump height and flight
Sonic = normal
Knuckles = hard mode because lower jump height. It feels like he runs slower too but that might just be the placebo effect.

>>389401212
I don't feel like buying the converters to allow my PS4 to play on CRT

>>389371495
My problem isn't with Denuvo.
It's that they delayed it to add Denuvo.

>>389401346
I was referring to the combination of Sonic & Tails, but yeah I think I got that much

>>389401456
this pisses me off so much.
i had the fucking game on my cart when i found out it was (then) online only and used denuvo, held back on buying it to wait for them to remove denuvo due to the massive shitstorm
they didnt, now its cracked and yet steam still has denuvo
they dont fucking want my money
buying when they remove denuvo to support devs

>>389377607
Why?

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>>389400814
>Tails just seems useless
I know you meant in S+T mode but Tails alone has some pretty good speedrun tech

>>389402795
fuck me ill never get this good

>>389402795
how

>>389371495
People couldn't play Online because of Denuvo and it limits the ability to mod the game, and Steam is already bad enough

>>389372335

thanks f@m

mega link works perfectly