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>Corrin leads the entire Nohrian army into Hoshido, killing

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>Corrin leads the entire Nohrian army into Hoshido, killing hundreds, causing Ryoma and Takumi to die, all so his evil dad could sit on Mikado's magic chair
>"lol all water under the bridge"
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>>389317554
fates was a mistake

some of those conquest maps were excellent but boy howdy there's a lotta issues in the game outside of em
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Nobody is going to pretend this games story wasn't a steaming power of trope filled anime garbage.
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>>389317554
>Conquest
>Anyone dying
Think you got it backwards, Anon. Corrin specifically works it out, and in the end only Ryoma and Takumi die. Scarlet does too but she's Nohrian, as I recall, and that was a Nohrian village in rebellion to boot.
Birthright is the one where Corrin goes full on slaughter mode.
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Just ignore the story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OShvQvG_Obw
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you ever get tired of beating that dead horse OP?
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While we are complaining, I don't like Shadows of Valencia and usually don't mind weird NES era sequels. Zelda II might be my favorite NES game and Castlevania II is great if you play it with some Nintendo Power help like nearly every game needed back then. I feel bad.
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>>389317846
I enjoy these cheesy Valentines things.
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>>389318315

Valentia just has some really bad maps that are completely the same as the original. It's one of the few cases that I wish they had changed up the game more.
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>>389318526
I wonder how they fix this for Genealogy. That games gimmick is big empty maps meant to represent the world map. It's better than SoV big empty maps that only made grinding take longer but still not very "modern".
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Why didn't they just let you be an outright antihero in CQ? The story would have made a lot more sense if it were presented that way.
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>games ages up Elise to be technically an adult
>lets you marry and impregnate a clearly underage child
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>>389317554
Is there a way to emulate the fan translation for the Japanese version on PC yet?
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>>389319491
>fan translation
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>>389317823
You can act cheeky all you want, but anyone that played the game knows that if it wasn't for the stupidity of the main characters then a lot less innocent people would have died.
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>>389319553
Sorry that I don't want to suffer through cringy reddit memes.
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>>389317554
>playing Awakening and I've had Donnel for the past 6 chapters
>haven't leveled him a bit

How do you actually level up garbage characters? I've read he becomes a badass later but I'm about at the point where Gangrel kills Chrom's sister and the mother fucker hasn't been of use in the slightest just taking up space.
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>>389319268
self-insert MCs that everyone likes because they are nice are never allowed to be so cool. Robin was actually pretty cool though.
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>>389317823
Oboro, Hinata, Saizo, and Kagero having unique death quotes in their final chapter sort of imply they were "supposed" to die.
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>>389319752
It's already too late unless you want to grind (which is cheating, so don't), use a better character.
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>>389319752
You already failed. Villager characters have to be babied a bit right after you first obtain them.
Just make him fuck Sully or Tharja and bench him.
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>>389319845
>>389319881
Is Gaius any good? The first time I played Awakening I didn't know he was recruitable and killed his ass. Trying to level up Virion and I prefer Ricken to thw other mage bitch.
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>>389319375

>Asking Japan to not have fuckable underage girls after the precedent they set in Awakening with Nowi

Don't even waste time with the 1,000 years old thing.
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>playing Conquest
>chapter 11 has one floor filled with archers, all of whom have Counter, and Setsuna with a unique 1-2 range bow
Am I supposed to just ignore that room completely or what? Even with Haitaka's Rally and a +Defense Pair Up, Nyx can't do shit to the archers even with weapon triangle advantage, and gets killed quickly.
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>>389317554
when fire emblem has a bad story it is BAD. Like, offensively bad. "I can't play this shit anymore" kind of bad.

Name me a game with a more vomit-worthy story than Fates. It is impossible
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>>389320431
Nyx is just ass in general.

I liked to ignore that room for a while, then slip in the back entrance and fuck them up since you don't have to cross the whole room to get to them.
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>>389320407
He's always ended up as a shittier Lon'qu for me.
Virion is one of the best Awakening characters in my opinion, but Snipers are pretty shit in Awakening. Most of the FE games actually. That being said, Awakening is fairly easy, so go ahead and use him.
I've literally never used Ricken, but Tharja is actually very strong, and gives you Noire if you get her to S Support someone.
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>>389320431
What I did was pair people up so they get better defense. Effie can also eat arrows for breakfest, just give her a javelin and watch her do work.
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>>389320519
Metroid: Other M
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>>389317554
I thought we had an agreement that Fates' plot is generally shit and discussing it is pointless.
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>>389320407
The first time I played Awakening I had to restart like 5 times because Gaius kept suicide bombing Chrom.
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>>389319716
yet you browse /v/
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>>389320519
I'm trying to think, but I don't think there are any games that I've dropped because of the bad story, aside Fates.

>>389320794
These threads are usually just a thinly veiled topic starter for FE it feels like.
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>>389319782
Because Hoshido couldn't do anything wrong. It would have been way better if they didn't make that out to be perfect sunshine and everyone is amazing and didn't do nothings. If both countries were more gray it would be much better.

But not Japan isn't allowed to look bad at all. It was so bad in Fates that even Japan didn't like all the dicksucking.
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>>389317778
if it was just a trope filled story, then it might have turned out at least passable.
But they went the extra mile to make even those tropes play out as badly as possible.
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>>389320573
Lonqu was my boy the first time I played Awakening and that mother fucker was just strong.
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>>389318315
Castlevania II has a patch to make the NPC dialogue helpful so you can beat the game. A great substitute for the NP guide.
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>>389321106
I felt bad killing all my former allies in Conquest, honestly.

>>389321189
Dodgetanks in Awakening are the most overpowered bullshit thanks to Pair Ups bonuses. Even if someone actually hits Lonk, Vantage means he'll just Killing Edge crit the next motherfucker before they even attack.
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>>389320414
She's a 1000 year old dragon you can shove your penis inside. But her looking like a young girl is the weird part.
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>>389318752
>Shadow Dragon flopped for being TOO similar to the original, plus a shitty artstyle
>SoV had a bunch of nice QoL changes + a great artstyle, but horrible gameplay from being too similar to the original
They won't change anything in the eventual Genealogy remake. Also enjoy your same turn reinforcements in the Binding Blade remake.
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>>389317846
>tfw you initiate a battle with this as the BGM
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>>389321382
Wasn't Tiki also 1000 in Shadow Dragon?
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>>389321330
Having played Conquest first, it felt worse in Birthright, since Corrin doesn't play the stupid "Oh I'll hold back just enough with my fucking sword and/or meter long dragon spikes that my enemies won't die" game in that one.
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>>389321106
It was so obnoxious it made me take pleasure in fucking destroying hoshido and making them all cry and suffer. That is what happens when you try to hard to make me feel a certain way, I will feel the exact opposite out of spite.
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>>389321478
To be fair, SoV and SD came from the very first two Fire Emblem. Naturally they were ass.

Genealogy as is has Skills, Weapon Triangle, Weapon Weight, Support and tons of other features like repairing Weapon uses. The only thing that will throw people off beyond the size of the maps will probably be the Pursuit skill and weapon rank being tied to Class and Holy Blood.
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>wanted to buy Conquest, Birthright and Revelation on one cartridge but it was fucking special edition exclusive

Yeah I know lambast me for not pirating and lambast me for only played Awakening too. Got Sacred Stones and it said just Fire Emblem emulated on my phone so which do I play next? Was going to play Advance Wars but got stuck on Kanbei and his bullshit.
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>>389321132
Can't argue with that
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>>389321634
Maybe he just constantly procced Dragon Fang and shot non lethal water balls at everyone.
Why are Corrin and Kana water dragons when Anankos is a generic one?
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>>389321528
It's an extraordinary song. Worst thing about Conquest, even worse than the story, was that there were no places to hear this song besides the three Invasions. I don't like grinding existing in FE, but at least it meant I got to hear this song more in BR and Rev.
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>>389321870
7 is always a good pick
PoR and RD are good as well.
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>>389321942
Same reason why the yato just fucking flies right into the hand of corn. The story is retarded.
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>>389320794
It can be fun trying to make sense out of the more retarded plotlines.
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>>389321330
It sucked in Hoshido if you like the Nohrian characters more. They actually kill them there. I feel horrible being forced to kill Benny and Charlotte. I feel like the Hoshido deaths are worse though, Xanders and Elises death just felt like they had to kill them. It is worse when you see Sakura there and there are a bunch of other healers there who could heal them right up. Xander makes a huge speech even and no one even tries to heal him. No one held onto Elise, and they all thought it was a good idea to let her watch her siblings duke it out.
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>>389322207
Healers can't heal cutscene wounds. This is vidya basics.
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>>389322207
Both Elise and Sakura tried to heal Lilith after she took an axe to the face, but it did nothing. Healing can only do so much.

Too bad Corrin's company never found Bifrost in Birthright.
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>>389321942
did you forget that the way anankos revives people and enslaves them is by turning them into zombies made out of water? valla is also based on chinese atlantis and his original japanese name is literally hydra. anankos is wet as fuck.
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>>389319375
>no one ever gets angry at you marrying their actual children
It made sense in Awakening since they come from the future, but it was just strange in Fates.
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>>389320684
Wow, Effie is very cute! Too bad they ruined her character in the western release!
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>>389317554
I fucking hate how Fates has some characters I really like because I know they'll never be in a better game. Niles, Arthur, Odin (Even if he literally is just Owain he's still better than most of the cast), Azama, Ophelia, Charlotte, and Percy are all great characters. Fuck Fates for how shit its story and most other characters were.

Soundtrack is pretty rad though.
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>>389322587
Marrying at a young age was very common in medieval times you know.
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As unbelievably stupid Conquest was, Birthright did two things that almost top the collective stupidity of Conquest.
>Kaze dies for literally zero reason if you do not have an arbitrary A rank support with him by chapter whatever
>Leon's magic teleport orb that goes exactly where you need to go and can take your ENTIRE ARMY with you on a two-way trip.
I don't think I've ever gotten as close to just permanently setting down a game as I did at that moment.
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>>389322639
She's still bearable if you turn down the volume and never invite her to your treehouse.

>>389322668
>tfw really like all the retainers except Peri
>tfw they'll never ever have the spotlight since IS has to shill the 8 Royals + Azura and Corrin instead
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>>389322587
>put in a hyperbolic time chamber to grow up faster
it not only is stupid but I feel like it is morally wrong too
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It's bizarre that they went out and got a manga writer because they thought the awakening story wasn't good enough and they ended up with this garbage.

Awakening wasn't the most interesting story but it was competently told and had likable characters.
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>>389322668
The awakening crew has a chance of jumping games again my dude
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>>389322815
but I want to bang my foxgirl waifu
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>>389322815
You think that'd really fuck up the kids psychologically too since they just kind of dump them there and leave for in their eyes ~16 years. But IIRC the only ones who actually give a shit about that resolve it in their paralogues except for Ryoma's kid.
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>>389322761
Don't forget Azura giving Leo and only Leo the magic crystal ball instead of advising him to show it to his siblings.

Was it ever explained where she got that anyway? Or why she happened to have a second dragonstone to give to Kana?
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>>389322761
The teleport orb thing was so stupid I couldn't stop myself from laughing for about 10 minutes. Painfully bad.

Killing Izana in Rev for basically no reason also annoyed me.
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>>389322842

Speaking of manga writer, what the ever loving fuck happened to the stories? Did they pay him peanuts or is the guy just that shitty of a writer?
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>>389322938

Yeah I'm not gonna lie Selkie and Velouria were my favourite characters in their respective games because I want to fuck them so badly.
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>>389321090
Lore and plot are different though, the actual Tellius games take place in the very last segment of that timeline. When people shit on Fates it's usually because of how contrived all three routes, especially conquest and IK feel. FE9s plot was better written, but also much more simple and effectively could be boiled down to Ike and friends stop Ashnard. FE10's was really neat in how it opened up the world by letting you play multiple factions in the same war, even if a lot of people hated the dawn brigade.
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>>389321090
>Fire Emblem lore in a year:
>REMEMBER WHEN CAMILA BEAT LYNDIS IN THAT ONE POLL IN FE HEROES?! SHIT WAS CASH.
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>>389322986
Nobody knows how this trainwreck came to be. Some people think IS fucked it up, but allegedly slime Garon was in the original draft.
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>>389323161

Either way, it must be a huge black stain on the writers resume now.
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>>389323161
I kinda see what they wanted Slime Garon to be like but the execution was beyond horrendous.
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>>389323112
mad cus bad.
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>>389323161
Slime Garon doesn't seem inherently bad on its own. The idea of an undead monster impersonating your dad seems fine, if a little generic, it's just that the execution was terrible.
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>>389317846
The problem isn't just the story. It's the characters as well. They're all written like shit and massively disappointing. I started a new save and sped through the game to pick up Flora, just to see what interesting information she would be discussing about the Ice Tribe, and found out that all her conversations just involve fussing over Corrin and how jealous Flora is over Felicia's combat skills.

And then I saw how they handled the kids for myself.

Seriously, Fates still manages to find new ways to disappoint me. I'm not even sure if I want to bother trying to finish my normal game, at this rate.

>>389322587
>two of your friends have a baby
>"I want to fuck that."
>"Well, how long should we leave it in for?"
>"Eh, 12-13 years should be good enough."
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>>389323112
Still upset.
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>>389319553
Wait, people actually played the official translation unironically?
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So what will the next "Echoes" game be? It's either going to be one of the Jugdral games or FE6. I really hope it will be one of the Jugdral games and that they don't fuck it up, but I think they'll go for FE6 first because of stupid Smash memesters thinking Roy is a good lord. Who knows, maybe they'll actually make me like FE6 and make Roy usable.
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>>389323459
I don't play mobages you dicksniffing queers.
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>>389323554
the main story is more or less translated right. it was the supports that got hit the hardest. i don't think it matters much though when the story itself is shitty anyway so who cares how it is translated
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>>389323457
Flora is one of the few characters who made sense. She was always sullen because unlike her ditzy sister, she knew that they were only there to effectively be held hostages, their father and the ice tribe had no idea where they were and only had Garon's word for their condition to try and suppress any thought of a rebellion.

I'm playing the fan translation so I don't even bother with the supports since only like 10 percent of them were ever translated. They might as well not exist in my eyes and after seeing some of the shit, I'm OK with that.
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>>389323457
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>>389322815
>>389322969
Oh, thank you. I am glad that I'm not the only one who noticed this.

I mean, seriously. You stick a kid in an isolated, empty area where they have to live by themselves for 10-20 years, only getting a visit from their parents once every few years. And after that? You pull them out and send them off to war.

Seriously, that doesn't even make any sense. If they'd decided to just stay put, then all the kids would've hit old age before your army was done. What kind of a life was that?

It would've made more sense to have time move far slower in the alt dimensions, so that you have fight for several months and the kids wouldn't even notice more than an hour had passed.
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as someone that likes strategy games it legitimately bothers me that people play them for the story and characters because it means that instead of improving the gameplay like they did from awakening -> Fates they can just phone in the gameplay and have an ok story like in Echoes.
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>>389322815
They don't do it to force them to grow up though. It's war time and they found a safe space for their children, time just happens to work differently. They are all still teens and some of them like Kana are still children.
It's not that bad.
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>>389320407
>not knowing who is recruitable in a FE game
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>>389323457
It helps if you realize that some/most of the characters aren't intended to be serious from the start. Characters like Arthur are intended to be more lighthearted. Whether the existence of these characters is a good thing or not is subjective, but I personally like them.

The other issue is that they have to write so many supports between all the characters, which makes a good number of them end up below average, which stands out more compared to past Fire Emblem games. There are still good supports like in previous games, there are just less COMPARATIVELY. There's a lot of mediocre shit yeah, but having a bunch of options isn't a bad thing, especially since it's easy to grind up and view supports (as opposed to something like Blazing Blade where you have to stand for dozens of turns to get a shitty support like Hector x Florina).
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>>389323778
>your daughter calls me daddy too
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>>389323790
I'm pretty sure most of the kids asked to join the army, with the exception of Mitama, who gets dragged away by Monk Dad.
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>>389324014
My friend killed Tharja on his first run, also leaving Libra to die since he was tired of trying to race down there before he died and not leveling up Donnel to recruit him.
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>>389323101
The biggest problems with Radaint Dawn in my opinion were:

>No supports outside of generic ones.
>Not enough time with the Dawn Brigade to level them up and maybe flesh out their characters. Micaiah will always be super weak going into the final battle because she has little time to level up.
>The game has over 70 playable characters, yet in the final battle you can only pick 10 to go with you, 7 are forced upon you limiting your options as you'll definitely have more than 10 characters who are worthy of filling those slots. Increasing the final chapter roster from 17 to 20-22 and reducing the mandatory units to ~5 (Ike, Sanaki, Sothe, Micaiah and 1 dragon) would have made things much better. The maps would need to be expanded to accommodate the increased troop counts. The final 2 maps should have also been redone (or at least the Lehran map) to not be big empty rooms.

It really could have used a few more chapters to give units more time to level up:
One more with Geoffery and Friends in Part 2 or 3 or have them join Ike's group in Part 3 and give them all one more chapter fighting in Daein.
One more DB chapter in Part 3 or one more in Part 1 and have Micaiah promote at the start of the final Part 1 map.
A third chapter for each group in Part 4.
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>>389324156
how
Doesn't Libra literally talk to you on his own when Chrom gets close enough? NotLucius can handle his own fine in the time it takes to pegasus knight ferry Crumb down.
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>>389324354
Hello. Watch your back in this battle!
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>>389324354
DB could be powerleveld by feeding them sub humans, but yeah everything else is pretty much correct
Apparently they got shafted in development and had to release early with a slashed budget
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>Percy's Paralogue
>Percy's luck means that a group of Mercs find Percy engaging Harold with hostilely
>They run pissing themselves dropping their wallet if you dragon vein
>You slaughter anyone who isn't around to witness your miracle
>Mercs just trying to do the right thing and want to help a kid who they think is in trouble
>Nobody sees any issue with this
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>>389323715
Exactly! Flora and Felicia getting kidnapped and used as extortion material was interesting. Having conflicting loyalties between serving Corrin and helping the Ice Tribe was interesting. The two working at cross purposes as a result was interesting. Felicia seeming to not remember the kidnapping, while Flora did, was interesting. Heck, the whole idea of a tribe of ice-magic-using people was interesting! But outside a bit of extra attack animation and that one mission, the entire thing gets dropped. Flora doesn't mention it with Felicia, Felicia doesn't mention it with Corrin, Flora doesn't mention it with Corrin.

The last bit, especially. I was expecting that Flora, who went rogue and fought against Corrin to support the Ice Tribe village, would've mentioned the whole thing in greater detail. Instead, it was just Flora fussing over how neat Corrin's hair was, and then getting afraid that she wasn't useful as a maid. Seriously? You ran off, abandoned your whole post, tried to kill Corrin, found his extradimensional castle somehow, and now you are worried that he'll dismiss your maid services??

I'm actually find with the Flora/Felicia conversation, since it's what I'd expected and nice to have that relationship established. But Flora/Corrin being especially vapid is just a sting, especially considering how many thing really needed to be addressed and just didn't.

(Felicia seemed like she was going to broach the topic in her first support with Corrin, starting with a "but I really had to" line, but it turns out that she "had to" because she was worried about messing up. Nothing regarding the whole Ice Tribe relationship.)
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>>389324561
>Apparently they got shafted in development and had to release early with a slashed budget
It really shows.
RD went from Gamecube to Wii (iirc, it was shown as a GC game at an E3 2005 or 6) and was one of those games that didn't really use the Wii's motion controls at all and didn't really fit with what the system was trying to convey. It is one of the "least Wii" Wii games and Nintendo probably wanted to just throw it out there as it had already been through development on GC. Aside from Brawl and Pokemon Battle Revolution, Radiant Dawn is the only notable Wii game to not use motion in any [significant] way.

I can see Nintendo just saying "fuck it" and telling them they had to have it out way earlier than they wanted.
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>>389324407
some people are really bad at games.
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>>389324823
>one of those games that didn't really use the Wii's motion controls at all
Yup and """"critics"""" actually panned it for this reason. Perhaps the only moment in time a game was derided for NOT having motion controls. Good thing they managed to get those touch controls in Fates; wouldn't want to make the same mistake again.
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>>389324024
Yeah, I'm fine with Arthur being goofy, or Silas having his whole "forgotten childhood friendship" thing, or Ellie always being hungry. Not every support needs to be a deep emotional bond. But when you have something significant between major story characters - and all the siblings count as this as well - then there really should be some focus on developing that relationship.

And I do think that child units, outside Awakening, were a mistake. Sure, they're a "surprise", but you have a hell of a lot more leeway when every relationship doesn't end in marriage. For one, every single male is not forced to have support conversations with every single female. It would just mean that everyone would get supports with other characters they had meaningful encounters with.

And yes, I agree that Blazing Blade's supports were typically fairly terrible.

>>389324156
>My friend killed Tharja on his first run
Good job.

>leaving Libra to die
He typically manages to keep himself alive in most of the games I've played, and stops moving after he's killed everyone nearby. Unless an enemy got a lucky crit against him, I'm surprised that Libra died before he could be recruited.
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>>389324823
Kinda what happened with Twilight princess, right? I mean, GC TP was 100% playable, the Wii waggling was just tacked on
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>>389324802
>You ran off, abandoned your whole post, tried to kill Corrin, found his extradimensional castle somehow, and now you are worried that he'll dismiss your maid services??
Speaking of which, I found it unintentionally hilarious how Jakob/Felicia joined you in Birthright. I liked the thought of them leaving the castle on their own and crossing multiple pocket dimensions, doing who knows what, just to reach their Lord Corrin.
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>>389324407
I genuinely don't know how. It's not like he's bad at video games, or so I thought. He's not a stranger to RPGs either. I asked him where he was and he told me the rainy level with the sad music, which is the one after you get them. I said "You got Tharja right? Magic is really good in this game, you'll need her" and he replied back with a "Who's Tharja?"
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>>389324665
At least they made it so Percy got pissed at his dad for leaving him in the outrealms and not doing anything with him for most of his childhood. All of the other kids are okay with it for some reason.

Also Percy is best child.
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>>389324354
>It really could have used a few more chapters
I disagree, I think the game was the perfect length, leaning even towards "too long" maybe. It simply bit more than it could chew, it should have reduced the scope of the events to only the Greil Mercenaries and the Dawn Brigade.
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>>389325014
If I recall, Shadow Dragon and New Mystery had touch controls.
>>389325125
To an extent. I'm under the assumption that Radaint Dawn was probably on track for a late 2006 or early 2007 release before having to get moved to Wii and the release date wasn't changed much or at all. TP, like BOTW, was done long before it released back in 2006. I'd imagine TP was completely finished by the tail end of summer 2006. If TP were gamecube only, it probably would have came out in the spring of 2006.
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>>389325093
I think that, while having a good number of options for supports is a good thing, they ought to tone down the excessive number and focus on quality.
I felt like, at the very least, Chrom should have been able to support every character in Awakening (only up to A rank for any female not in his marriage list). He's the main lord and leader of the army that everyone apparently looks up to, but he only interacts with a small portion of the Shepherds.
Similar deal with Marth in New Mystery, who can literally only support with Caeda and My Unit if I remember correctly. It was a good opportunity to give Mars an actual character and let him interact with other characters like Cain/Abel or Minerva, but he got pretty shafted.
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>>389317554
>>389317554
THis whole game was a self insert masturbation fest gone horribly wrong, do you know how bad you need to write a story with a self insert and the characters eager to drop their morals, underoos and personalities for it to be the sole thing Fates is remembered for? The story is almost offensively bad to the extent you wonder what the person who approved such cancer was drinking at that time.
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>>389325279
I get where you're coming from.

Essentially drop the Crimean Army's chapters (6 of them) and give them to the Mercs/Alliance and Dawn Brigade/Daien (I'd give 4 to the alliance and 2 to Daien). Then I assume that Part 4 would either remain the same or that the Hawk Army would have been merged with the other two with say Ike's group getting Elincia and co, while Micaiah's got Tibarn and Ranulf.

That could work. I personally liked Part 2 but do feel it felt like filler.
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>>389317554
She just really, really wanted to fuck Corrin.
If she had known they weren't blood related from the start, she would have been actively trying to jump on his dick.
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Lilith's death was so fucking dumb. Corrin can tank a ton of hits, but god forbid if that faceless/berserker/whatever was in rev gets a strike in.
Bonus points: you get thrashed around by Xander or Ryoma (IIRC on that one, not entirely sure) later.
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>>389325826
Fishter doesn't die in Revelations. She actually doesn't show up AT ALL after the prologue, despite the fact that Revelations is all about uniting to kill her dad.
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>>389325826
Remember when Lilith first created that dragon dimension that everyone is staying at?
Remember when she couldn't take on her human form anymore, after using up all that energy to save Corrin?
Remember when she said that she couldn't leave that dimension, because if she did, then it would just stop existing?

Yeah.
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>Corrin isn't a Mary Sue/Gary Stu
I talked with retards who actually believe this.
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>>389325960
The second point is actually handwaved ingame, she says some Astral Dragon took pity on her and gave her the strength to take human form before she died.
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>>389325983
He's a different kind of sue, not a kirito and not a onee-sama, but a Shinji, lots of people being stupider than him, lots of people willing to do stuff for him despite all logic and lots glossed over atrocities Corrin does in his quest, it's no wonder they market his female half more, tits can get you very far no matter how stupid and unlikable you are, just look at Marie from Persona 4, people hate her but still jerk it to her
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While we're all here
How would /v/ feel about a /v/ FE Compendium? We could vote on two games to focus on, then have people claim characters to draw, like in boxart threads.
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>>389317554
Did you expect the Code Geass Videogame not to have the Glaring code-geass-fridge-logic?
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>>389326441
I would, but I can't draw.

If I did, it would be better than that Clarisse at least.
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>>389326627
*blocks your path*
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>>389326798
Holy shit, look at those clear lines
This was drawn by an angel
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>>389322789
>Never Touched Fates
>Get Peri in FE Heroes, and like her a lot.
>Wonder what she's like in Conquest-
NOPE!

Fucking hell. How do you fuck up coloring that bad...
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>>389327205
le killing stabby time
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>tfw Takumi is the only character that constantly delivers
He's such an angry shithead yet he's one of the best characters because he actually has FLAWS. He's the only one who has suspicions of the guy who popped up out of nowhere after living in Nohr his entire life and doesn't remember anything, including his mother. His middle child complex actually makes sense. He's good with kids because of this as shown in his support with Aqua.

Everyone loves memeing him up because he got so pissed he ended up getting possessed or something but he's the best character this game has to offer.
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>>389327341
It's that slight raspyness that really sells it (in heroes at least.)

Just look at this, though. They paid someone to do this.
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>>389327667
whats so bad about it
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>>389326441
I would. I'll vote for fe7 and/or fe9 since most people have played those. 2 at a time might be a lot since games have a lot of character, and we probably will struggle to get enough anons who are willing to draw and know about their character
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>>389327896
One game to start with might be a good idea yeah.
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>>389327697
Half of her looks like a holographic collector card while the other half is practically flat colors. Her face looks like it's in an entirely different field of vision.

Was this meant to look better on the 3DS screen or something?
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>>389328368
>Her face looks like it's in an entirely different field of vision.
and now I can't unsee it.
Fuck
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>>389327608
Takumi is a hothead, but is a boss in some of the better levels.
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>>389328547
>tfw only recently cleared 10 on Lunatic but used up so many Freezes that I had to redo it anyway
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>>389327608
He's legit the only good character in Fates.
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>>389317554
Conquest's plot was a mistake.
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>>389328368
i dunno i think it looks fine
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>>389323632
ok
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>>389318315
>Light and Shadow actually told you more about the backstory, side objectives, recruit-able characters, supports, and had even more weapons.
Too bad we never got it, it's still the best FE
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>>389323601
I honestly think it'll be Jugdral, simply because they know that the fanbase has a boner for child characters.
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>>389321942
I don't know. How are Takumi and Sakura not your blood siblings when the tells you that Mikoto married Sumeragi when Corrin was a baby? Why does Azura have a magical artifact that can reveal Garon's true form only to break it in the scene it's introduced? Why are none of Corrin's siblings uncomfortable fucking someone they considered a brother for their entire life? Why throw the children into a time void for safety? Why not just keep them in one of the multitude of places where conflict isn't happen we saw in the game? How can you justify throwing the kids in the time void as a last resort to save them when hundreds are suffering through the war without this luxury? If the time void is so safe, why does it keep getting attacked by bandits and the undead?
Why did Anankos need Owain, Inigo and Severa? Why did they have to change their names? Why are they more than okay working under a cartoonishly evil king?

The answer is that they just didn't care. Appeasing waifufags and muh-maps shitters was more important than making a game that worked as a whole.
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>>389327608
He was the biggest, whiniest bitch in the Nohr route, but in Revelations he was muh nigga.
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>>389322845
>the awakening crew becomes the new Pegasus sisters
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>>389329812
I wish I saved all the ones when that trailer first came out. Some of them were great, and some of them were pretty good but got takumi wrong because nobody knew his personality at the time.
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>>389333401

>Marx telling you he won't hesitate to strike you down if you should be rusing him in regards to entering the throne room
>even though you've been jumping on his dick and birthed two sons for him

That's some real tender love there, nii-san
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>>389323601
All it would take to make Roy a good lord is to make him get his class up earlier. His growths are fine. I hated having to have him on my team once he hit 20 before promotion because I don't like wasting XP other units could get, so he just took up a slot unless there was someone to talk to or a village to visit.
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>>389333401
I'm conflicted on Owain, Inigo, and Severa. On one hand, their DLC was super cool, set them up to be a big deal, and they have a great dynamic and interesting backstory. On the other, if they were actually important in the story and went over the new characters, it would just come off as a massive Awakening dicksuck. Still better than not!Cordelia, not!Tharja, and not!Gaius.
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>>389334029
I'm glad that the Awakening ripoffs were pretty poorly recieved.
That said, I actually liked Rhajat in the original, and it's a fucking travesty that Treehouse turned her into a complete Shitja copy.
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>>389334029
The dlc was lame though and served as another plot hole. They all agreed to follow and help some faggot who was yelling crazy shit outside the castle walls, and then despite them promising to help his son, in two out of the three paths(One of which is considered "canon") they try to fucking kill him for people they pretty much just met.
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>>389322668
At least the vast majority of recruits are mostly divorced from the worst parts of the story. But if you liked Azura, Corn, or Xander, for example, you have to deal with the fact that they do lots of really fucking stupid things to move the three really fucking stupid plots along.
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>>389327608

Nah Takumi is just a rabbid squirrel. He's suspicious beyond reason considering he still doesn't even trust Azura despite the fact she spent as much time in Hoshido with them as Corrin did in Nohr.

If anything he's just as misguided as the other Hoshido family members as rather than blind trust he blinded himself with anger and pointed at Corrin and Azura and not that creepy-ass sword he/she is lugging around.
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>>389335846
The S support between Takumi and Azura was so stupid.
>"I treated you like shit all these years because I actually loved you at first sight and got triggered whenever you wanted us to be siblings"
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>>389323962
>"You'll be safe here because our world is too dangerous!"
>Nearly every single child is attacked by invisible soldiers
Uh huh
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You wouldn't a dragon, right?
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>liked the music of Fates
>fucking hated all paths
>not worth $80
>Echoes drops
>Literally did everything right
>the plot suffers from the generic old FE shit
>all those little details in the story down to you killing Zeke, letting Mathilda die and Clive's pure anger at you
>Berkut and Rinea's story and the ending of their tale
>the memory prisms
>the fucking music
Echoes is what to do right with FE
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>>389337852
Echoes also have cats.
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>>389317554
not canon, only revelations is
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>>389337852
Seriously, the maps were the only thing that deserve any complaint, but everything fucking else was 10/10 and I want to see that level of quality in a new FE. Too bad this was just a side project and next game is most likely going to be more like Fates.
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>>389338358
>Echoes' map design
I guess they were really tired to nail the maps like the original but Gaiden had fucking terrible maps to begin with
>The entire final act on both sides
Holy fuck that was hell
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>Jeorge is probably kill now
At least M!Corrin is a costume/clone/whatever Musou does
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>>389338782
Might as well just pull the trigger and show Azura. But they won't because they need to pad out another reveal with her because clearly they don't have anybody else they can show.
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>>389338782
>At least M!Corrin is a costume/clone/whatever Musou does
No one ever care about male Corrin. Everyone want to make retarded half dragon babies with F Corrin
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>>389338782
Shit, forget Jeorge or Minerva, I'm getting scared that fucking Caeda won't even be in at this rate.
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>>389337852
>letting anyone die
lmao
Echoes did everything but the gameplay right. You hit your opponents for 1 damage (if you hit) while they summon shitloads of reinforcements. It's worse than fucking Birthright. And the maps are either completely empty with a bunch of trees or massive swamps that damage you.
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>>389338949
>Has zero costumes/bonuses/events for Heroes
>It usually in the background to Awakening
>Archanea is third place now
It's not as bad as every land that's not 13/14, but really hope it does not get replace by 13 completely since they are the same timeline
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>>389338358
I was kinda disappointed that there wasn't any class branching in Echoes though. That and the fact that the supports felt few but the idea of unlocking them through other means is a nice detail.
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>>389323962
It's such a fuckin' Cats in the Cradle scenario though, the kids are all grown up and killed the shit out of some opposing army, sure, they did a good job on that, but the parents will never be able to emotionally connect with their children or watch them grow because they just missed so many important things in the child's life. Like, you couldn't have just left the babies in the completely safe pocket dimension your stupid dragon sister who exists for only the story beginning created? They just desperately had to go into the microwave dimension?
Like, it would've made more sense if the kids came from a different reality where everything got fucked up, like the DLC did. That at least would've made a bit more sense because they could fight against that evil thing that got their parents killed, but ISIS wasn't really thinking on Fates, so we just got this confusing mess that leaves a sour taste in our mouth when we really think about it.
Owain, Severa, and Inigo probably got it the roughest because they've apparently been in Nohr for years and they have to decide whether to go back to the buttfucked future without Grima or that present where everyone's alive and all their comrades currently are, and who knows how long time has passed in those two worlds?
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>>389340510
I think people need to stop using supports as the primary measure of how much a character is fleshed out, because there's clearly so many other ways to do it. The village/fort conversations and memory prisms all do a fairly great job at doing what they can in a format that supports can't cover as well.
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>>389340850
Talking to characters SMT style was a great addition that fleshes out both characters and the world around you. Still, supports are good for having two units interacting with each other.
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>>389326441
I'd be down for it. I'm not that good at drawing yet, and especially need some practice with Humanoid figures, but it would be a pretty fun way to get better.
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>>389338782
>"We could make a cool mage character to represent Hoshido's unique staffs and animal based magic"
>"Or we could make her a generic archer."
Who the fuck approved this
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>>389337532
I would.
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>>389341267
The lack of cross-army supports was a shame. I would've liked to see Alm's friends and Celica's friends talk, for instance (Gray with Boey since they both become family men, Tobin with Mae because clueless guy with hyperactive girl is cute).
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>>389338982
>No one ever care about male Corrin
Because Corrin is shit either way and people want to stick their dick in / self-insert as F!Corrin
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>>389323601
>because of stupid Smash memesters thinking Roy is a good lord

Remember that shitholes like Reddit, Gamefaqs and Youtube are unironically saying that Gaiden was a masterpiece that shits on most of the Fire Emblem franchise because of Echoes. Imagine how much Royfaggotry would come if an FE6 remake was good.
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>>389343908
>Roy becomes a more useable unit, a more interesting character and gets better maps etc
>Royposting flips from "he's not even good in his game" to "he's even better in his own games than he is in Smash!"
Aw fuck t3h ph1r3's spreading, be careful not to get burnt
I'd like him more if his d-tilt in Smash 4 popped people up like in Melee, otherwise I don't care too much for him in or out of his own game. the way he and Eliwood dote over each other is cute though
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I WANT TO FUCK ELISE
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>>389344142
Elise is not for fucking.
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>>389344205
Elise is for marrying.
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>>389344291
Elise is not for marrying.
She's just a pure young girl.
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>>389344324
Elise is for baby-making.
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>>389344205
Tell that to IS
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>>389337852
You forgot about the grindy gameplay, shit maps and retarded enemy formations
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>>389344142
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>>389338982
>couldn't pull bikini Corrin even though I sunk all orbs I got into her gatcha
>decided to roll the new gatcha on a whim and pulled Lyn on the first non-free roll
why
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>>389337852
Why didn't you mention anything about the gameplay?
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>>389345521
Echoes' gameplay is held back by its horrid vomit inducing maps, the battle system itself is good
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>>389317554
>fates

LOL
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>>389345826
>the battle system itself is good
Well, there wasn't enough class variety and tying skills to weapons promotes grinding as opposed to just finding and selecting the skills in Path of Radiance or leveling up in Awakening/Fates.
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>>389345826
All this bitching about Echoes' maps actually makes me want to try it. How bad can they possibly be for them to warrant so much rage?
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>>389320407
Fucker's useless in anything but breeding, just use Anna
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>>389319268
For such a gigantic shithead, Michalis sure gets off scot free if he survives the war with Hardin
I guess an imouto's love can redeem anyone
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>>389346758
They're not even bad, just rather plain and too straight forward until you get to Act 3 where they do start to get bad on Celica's side because she gets several desert maps in a row and then several swamp maps afterward.
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>>389346635
is this actually how Revelation starts
this is something out of a fucking parody comic
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>>389327205
The only thing that redeems Peri is her supports with Lazlow
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>>389346758
There are 3 kind of maps for the main game
1. Big fields with maybe a mountain or river
2. Small rooms (mostly for dungeons)
3. Annoying as fortress battles with few chokepoints to force yourself through.

Only thing they could come up with to add some challenge was enemies who spawn other enemies.
Oh, 3 or 4 maps have poison/lava.

And they are all rout/kill boss
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>>389322752
average age at marriage in the middle ages was like 25 dude, fuck off with this tired meme. i crank it to loli all the time but im not gonna act like my fetish has some sort of historical precedent
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>>389337532
Hell yeah I would
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>Best part of Light and Shadows
>Best part of Gaiden
>Best part of Echoes, aside from Sonia
Camus amiibo when
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>>389347039
It gets better. Saizo attempts to blow up and take out corrin, who's simply trying to talk to him peacefully. By blowing up he's killing his ex, the country's leader(because god knows ryoma isn't leading), and dozens of wounded soldiers.
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>tfw your wife requires so much to become viable
>She's usually the best choice for the Tharja's clone mother anyway
>Is only mentioned in ONE chapter
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>>389347039
Yes, and that's only the fucking beginning.
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>>389347443
Of course Leo is the voice of reason in that family
To be fair he did pull the "book of teleportation to just about anywhere" ex-machina he didn't use for anything else
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>Soleil had some really cute romantic supports
>Memehouse has her friendzoned so hard that Forrest's practically dropped her down the Marianas Trench of No Way Fag-dom
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>>389346635
>>389347443

What the fuck is with making characters named Aqua to be complete retards?
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>you will never experience again the FE threads when Revelation was just released in Japan and some anon was dumping pics of its story
what a fucking ride
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>>389347708
Grandpa's revenge was some good stuff, if only he were really the end boss
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>Local man doesn't know what he's fighting for and keeps fucking up
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>>389347412
>>389347443
>Nyx, Charlotte, Benny, Keaton, and Kadaen were randomly thrown into a random chapter in Revelation
Anyone with no relation to a royal got screwed, even harder than usual.
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>>389317670
The ninja rape cave always comes to mind
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>>389347849
At least they aren't Odin?
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>>389347708
>all the ruse cruises anons kept spreading to keep things chaotic but also incredibly edgy
>the saddening months afterwards where we were realizing how fucking bad the plot was
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>>389347849
Just like Warriors
It's like anyone who isn't a royal doesn't exist

Like Christ, just give me someone different like Alm, a joke character, a sub-human and a magic caster and I'm fine.
But nope.
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>>389324823
>I can see Nintendo just saying "fuck it"

It still kinda baffles me that they decided to release RD 1 day before Mario Galaxy in the US.
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>>389346732
Each weapon having it's own experience was hella dumb. Some other requirement would've been better (ie you need X Skill to unlock this ability, this much Speed to unlock another ability).
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>>389348104
I was tentatively excited for Warriors when that shit was announced. A game where I can play as my favorite characters from across the series, and just wreck countless numbers of mooks? Sign me the fuck up, dibs on Arvis, Camus, Hardin and Hector
It had such potential
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>>389348348

Motherfucker you reminded me how I really wanted to see a 3d model of paladin Hardin.

Fcuk this.
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>>389347251
>Camus amiibo when
Not soon enough.
The fact that there's a serious possibility that he isn't in Warriors is fucking mindboggling.

>>389347708
>>NO, SIRE.
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>>389317823
Birthright is the one where Corrin accidentally holds out his sword and his entire adopted family just runs their stupid asses through it one by one.
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>>389348539
Paladin or Emperor. Either would have been nice, Hardin is one of my favorite characters
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>>389348348
>game comes out
>10 Fates characters, Royals + Corrins
>"Just wait for DLC for your favorite characters"
>DLC announced for FE6/FE7
>Roy, Lyn Hector, that's it.
>Elibe games reduced to 3 characters
>DLC announced for Tellius
>Ike, Micaiah, thats it
>Tellius games reduced to 2 characters
>DLC for Judgral never announced.
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If there anything Fates nailed it was music and gameplay.

My Castle was a great idea and really added to the longevity of the games, gameplay is also fast, open and viable for experimentation.
There is also a huge cast and plenty of choice for who you want in your army and in Revelations you get just about everyone and can have everyone marry.

I also felt it started off strong and the idea of having to choose what kingdom you went with was a good idea on paper.

But Christ the writing pretty much ruins a otherwise worthy contender for one of the best FE games and gives little time to flesh out his huge cast and instead chooses to focus on the Royals.

Hopefully the Switch game will be like Fates in terms of tone, gameplay and additional features but the EFFORT of Echoes with much better fleshing out and VO for everything line.
But the question is, what artstyle would you want for it?
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>>389348752
Don't you fucking get me started. I am so fucking mad at what has been done to Warriors. And the game isn't even fucking out yet
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>>389348348
Same. I feel like just about everyone got burned by it.

Chances are they're going to take advantage of me and make me get it and the DLC, hopefully it still plays like HW and not ass.
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>>389348758
I like Echoes "down to earth" style more
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WHERE ARE THE FUCKING SHADOW DRAGON/MYSTERY OF THE EMBLEM CHARACTERS AAAAAHHHHHHH
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>>389349004
Don't hold your breath. We'll probably just get big names like Marth and Tiki
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>>389348752
I'd really rather they don't add DLC outside of the 3 games they decided on (which might sound strange especially from someone who hates the 3 game focus). They haven't even gotten all the fan favorites for the games they've fucking based the game around. Tharja is shit, but if you're gonna have Awakening as a core pillar of the game you might as well include her. And if it sells well enough, have a sequel with completely different games for it's roster instead of doubling up on Fates/Awakening to include the characters that should've been in the first time. The only thing worse than the cast for FE Warriors is buying it because a handful of characters you like are paid DLC for it.

>>389348758
>But the question is, what artstyle would you want for it?
Not Kozaki. I'm so tired of his style for the series but it's become iconic just as children and pair-up has, for better or worse.
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>>389348964

I really hope we keep the Echoes artsyle, it's absolutely beautiful, even if I'm still partial to Tellius' designs.
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>Post yfw "Don't worry Celica. I'll crush these bastards"
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>>389348950
I hate myself for admitting it, but I would probably buy DLC if it had characters I love
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>>389348758
>it nailed the things that matter
>b-b-but the story
Wow, who cares. Read a fucking book if you want muh story. Or better yet go play the latest AAA cinematic QTE walking simulator from Sony for your """cinematic experience""". Faggots like you ruined Pokemon and now are trying to ruin Fire Emblem. Kill yourself.
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>>389347979
Honestly, the twists those ruse cruise anons wrote were better than how the plot really went down. I would definitively have played that.
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>>389349004
You'll have Marth and maybe Tiki only and like it.
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>>389349104
Trust me, I'm not playing to shill out 60 bucks for the chance that one or two characters I like are in the game later one. At this point, I've resigned to the idea that FEW is just SMT x FE all over again.
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>>389348205
>It still kinda baffles me that they decided to release RD 1 day before Mario Galaxy in the US.

>My face when I look it up to verify whether it was true or not
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>>389349362

>inb4 it's Awakening Tiki
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>>389349246
But that's what I'm saying, the gameplay has come really fair and is getting ever better but the writing is so bad it brings the whole expierence down.

And that's not because I want to focus on it, the game is very much a narrative experience and the developers want you to be invested in the story since they spend so much of the game on it.
The game CHOOSES to focus on the story and brings the experience down because of it.
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>>389348950
>I feel like just about everyone got burned by it.
Only retards who thought it would ever be different.
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>>389349416
ISIS isn't that incompetent. I think
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My god, I never knew the writing for Fates was so awful. How do they get away with making this shit? I heard that Awakening was supposed to be their swan song, then it's a success so they turn around and make this shit?
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If you were stuck having to spend time with Robin or Corrin who would you pick?
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>>389349848
They made Fates because they looked at what Awakening did differently from the previous games, because that is what caused it to sell well. Forget the fact that Awakening was the first game to receive actually marketing since FE7 and really stupid decisions like >>389348205 that weren't factored into it, and you end up with a terrible story, a Mary-Sue self insert more ridiculous and universe centering than Robin, marriage and a poorly thought out reason for children, and really good music
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>>389349416
Loli Tiki has an amiibo for this game. This should make it obvious which Tiki they'll use, but /v/ is too retarded to use logic. They've also confirmed long ago there's more Shadow Dragon than just those two. But again, /v/ is too dumb to do anything other than get mad for no reason and shitpost. Too stupid to notice the reveal trend for this game has been main characters from each game first, then Awakening, then Fates, and next will be Shadow Dragon at TGS. People are actually so clueless they expected SD or Tharja would be the first reveals after the Fates trailer when the first reveals after the Awakening trailer was more Awakening. I shouldn't really blame /v/ though as the bits I've seen from other places are acting exactly the same. Too blinded by their own desires to think clearly, or at all. The FE fanbase in general is full of easily triggered brainlets.
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>>389350003
Daddy and sibling issues or a chill lad in a robe?
The latter

Unless we're talking females in which case I'd take Corrin back to my house for a little ride
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>>389349406
>The international release date of Warriors is one week before Super Mario Odyssey
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>>389350003
The one that won't stab me in the back.
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>>389350542
DUDE
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Hay guyz, what's goin on in this thread?
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Why do the characters act like Shinonome and Siegbert are actually going to inherit the throne when they're just a little bit younger than their fathers anyway?
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>>389350590
Well then you're fucked either way. One is clinically retarded, and the other has an evil god possessing him, so a sword would probably end up in your back either way
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>>389350846
In case daddy has an "accident".
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>>389350778
It's a shame there aren't 3 people in this, we could fit Rinea in there too
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>>389350628
HEALS LAMO
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>>389351026
Who is this guy even supposed to fug? Most of his supports he's just an asshole and nobody likes him. Am I just supposed to assume he has a rapebaby?
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>>389351026
>*burps* GODS AREN'T REAL, CORRIN *buuurp*
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>>389347112
You shut your manwhore mouth, Inigo.
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>>389351121
Yes, once he gets to the S rank they can't escape and they know it, he'll take just about anyone
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>>389350846
>have children so you can have an heir to the throne
>put them in an accelerated time capsule so they're the same age as the parent
BRILLIANT!
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>>389347112
Her actually running an anger management class for poor and angry rogues on the side in Odin's support was pretty funny
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>>389351202
But it's true. It's almost MMorgan/Nah tier because it actually ends with Peri acting like a human being, and is the only ending where it doesn't take years for her to learn right from wrong
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>>389350569
Lol now that's just dumb
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>*blocks your path*
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>>389351625
why is she so perfect
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>>389351625
>You smell like a goat!
>crits a dude for 120

Jesus Mozu
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Has anyone seen my wife?
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>>389351418
>Being incapable of accepting Peri for the perfect girl that she already is

what a fag
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>>389350465
People are just complaining because it's only three games FE game they're using. When they have 15 games in total and can branch out.
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>>389352172
I was always more partial to "You're a bad apple!"
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Feels good to see some discussion on Fates, and even Echoes to some point that didn't fall down the shitposting hole
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>Literally the most valuable substance on earth rains down from the sky onto Nohr
>This girl is literally the first person to realize this

How is she not ruling the entire continent
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>>389352928
You mean discussion about how horrible everything in Fates' story was? Because we've done this song and dance hundreds of times before. Sometimes I feel like one of the only people who isn't totally obsessed with talking about how bad the story is because I just brush aside the average FE story anyway.
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>>389353245
Compared to other discussions, a reasonable talk about this stale subject is still a breath of fresh air.
I liked Fates too, Conquest is one of my favorite FE games and Birthright was pretty fun to mess around.
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Why were the younger brother characters the only ones to not be complete trash?
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>>389319268
>Why didn't they just let you be an outright antihero in CQ?

Because it's hard to shill the power of friendship when you're steamrolling your birth family.

Plus there's NO WAY they would have ever made it so the Japanese counterpart could be anything less than objectively righteous.
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>>389353495
Because you're an otomefag who thinks Xander and Ryouma are too old.
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WE'VE GOT TROUBLE!
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>>389353495
But Takumi is beyond trash
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>>389325265
Lots of the kids very much aren't okay with it. Like Ryoma's son.
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>>389353980
HERE, HAVE SOME DEATH!
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>>389347112
The Awakening kids have great supports all around, especially with each other.
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>>389348758
This is a pretty good summary. Conquest has the best gameplay of any FE I've played, but not even I can pretend the plot isn't shit.
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>>389353980
>>389354738
I'M READY TO ROLL
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>>389355946
I'm still not sure if summons are the best or the worst thing about Echoes.
The final map was basically fantasy WW1 for me, where endless streams of summons from both sides died as I inched my way forward.
Thank god I had doot to nuke that cheating faggot that can only be damaged every 4 attacks. What a bullshit ability.
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>>389356435
It's pieces of shit like him that made dread fighters have to exist
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>>389353495
But Ryoma was the best boy.
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https://imgur.com/a/mU8yz
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>>389356921
gay
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>>389356921
>Camilla
dropped
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>>389337852
>all those little details
>Fight Delthea and kill her
>Luthier says literally nothing. Cutscene with Clive and Alm doesn't even happen. Deltheawho?
>Have Luthier blast Delthea in the face and kill her
>Sorry, who was that I just hit?
>Have Delthea kill Luthier
>Haha I'm Delthea lemme join you I'm pretty stong you know
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>>389341651
Well, Priestess is her canonical class, so they kind of shot themselves in the foot slightly. They probably should have had her use Onmyoji magic anyway, because that's cool. And Tacomeat is already the archer. As much as I like Sakura as a Priestess, it's not got a lot to offer. Unlike Takumi who has Fujin Yumi and Skadi.
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>>389357934
M-maybe they'll still add Basara Oboro with naginatas and animal magic
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Now that Elise and Sakura are confirmed, I'm actually tempted to get Warriors so I can main them the entire game.
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>>389347690
Fates' Aqua isn't even a semen demon that you can trick into having sex with you so she's automatically worse
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>>389358137
I'm not up to date with warriors, what even is the cast? Just Fates royals and Krumb or something?
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>>389359127
Don't forget Marth! Everybody loves that guy.
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>>389359078
She's a semen demon you can hatefuck, that's just as good.
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>>389317554
I really do't know how the plot of this game is so bad. I mean Awakening wasn't great but it was at least decent enough and had a good explanation for future children.

The tragedy is that I genuinely like some of the characters but the moment they appear in story their IQ drops to single digits and they all do terribly stupid shit with plot twists coming left and right and it all becomes a huge mess.

It's a game that managed make me like 'little sister' type characters that I normally detest, and it's wasted on this.

Also male Corrin's default hair can fuck off.
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>>389350003
>whiny spineless bitch nigga who gets everything handed in a silver platter but still whines
vs
>madman/woman who burns their own ships with no reason other than to ruse the enemy
Obviously Robin no matter what's between the legs.
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>>389356435
He doesn't even attack, I just had a few people stand near him and smack him when he summoned while alm hid behind 20 summons while fighting Duma. Bless Genny and her perfect meat shield invoke.
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>>389359218
You shouldn't fuck the mentally disabled, no matter how tempting it is
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>those Gray/Clair supports
Oh God why
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>>389359127
Marth, Chrom, Lissa, Frederick, Male and Female Robin, Male and Female Corrin and all the Fates royals. Also Cordelia.
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>>389354305
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>>389359508
>Fates has 2 blue haired, literally retarded girls you can marry and put a child in
What did IS mean by this
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>>389359249
And yet that hair is still better than everything else
Seriously what the fuck was up with that, Awakening's and New Mystery's were decent enough
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>>389359249
>It's a game that managed make me like 'little sister' type characters that I normally detest, and it's wasted on this.
Completely agree. Normally characters like Elise and Sakura would just actively hurt my enjoyment of a game. But I enjoyed those two for some reason. Possibly because of how the other family members interacted with them. I enjoyed the supports between Else and Leo a lot because it made Elise seem like a person and not just your typical computer generated idealized imouto you get in most Japanese things. The little sisters are still far from my favorite characters in the game but I didn't immediately hate them.
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So who's the lance armor going to be in Warriors?
Draug honestly seems like the only real candidate, but KT seems to be allergic to Shadow Dragon.
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>>389359921
Enemy only. :^)
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>>389359902
>that chapter
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>>389359921
Tharja
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>Playing Echoes
>Get to Act 3
>Fighting my way as Alm through countless open field battles
>Constant enemy zerg rushes
>Teleporting Witches who will 1 shot 95% of my army
>Desaix keeps spawning fucking Paladins every other turn

This game is infuriating for all the wrong reasons.
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>>389359902
I remember that thread, I still have that ms paint "I got this" from the original on my other pc.
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>>389360063
It's not completely impossible I guess.
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>>389359921
Kellam will just appear on the select screen one day with no warning.
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>>389360165
Wait until you get to the point where the game decides "difficulty" is having 3 summoners constantly spam witches/undead at you that do 1 damage and die on a counter attack, but still block your movement through the chapter
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>>389360273
I want to hold her down and repeatedly slam her head against those retarded pauldrons.
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>>389360307
This would legitimately be the nicest little detail they could possibly add to a game.
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>>389359889
I've felt pretty much the same. Maybe because it was weirdly not in-your-face? I felt legit bad when I read Elise sacrifices herself for you.

I was also really surprised by Sakura since she seemed like the anime shy girl cliche but she showed quite a lot of backbone in Revelations where she basically busts in and joins you while telling everyone else to fuck off.
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>>389360307
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>>389360307
They should retroactively edit all of their previous articles/materials to contain mentions/images of him too.
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>>389360057
For all Fates did wrong, it certainly succeeded in making scary monsters
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I'm playing Sacred Stones for the first time and everyone is so immediately likeable. They're walking tropes (cry-baby, hot-blooded youth, LUCK, ect.), but at the same they're all really enjoyable. I don't how Awakening and Fates manages to have such terrible casts that they managed to dissuade me from finishing the games altogether.

Now who should I focus on for my main units?
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>>389360916
>scary monsters
The Faceless are just grey buff dudes wearing SM gear.
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>>389360925
Joshua, Cormag, Lute, L'arachel and Neimi
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>>389360362
>Witches
>1 damage
Witches are always a threat in this game to anybody without a huge amount of RES
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>>389361823
Not once you realise they always go for the back of your group
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Guys, I like Hinoka.
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>>389360925
All the royals desu
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>>389361081
He's scared of going to the gym.
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>>389362017
She's not even the best tomboy on her own route.
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>>389317554
So what's the best way to enjoy Conquest/Bloodlines if you know already that the writing is shit?

Turn off voices and play Casual?
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>>389362528
Birthright is mostly fine storywise, if not pretty generic.
Conquest is the one where you just skip all the cutscenes and focus on the levels.
Revelations is also written pretty bad, but it's probably worth seeing everything if only because it's the "canon" route.
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>>389362285
Scarlet kinda sucks, though.
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>>389362285
Don't get ahead of yourself fag
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>>389362698
So does Honkers, but at least Scarlet brings in a unique class for Birthrout
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>>389360925
Because you want characters who are immediately likeable, regardless of whether that makes them good characters or not. Elise is immediately likable too unless you are really put off by moeblobs, for example.
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>>389362676
Cutscenes as in videos, or as in the dialogue too, cause the last thing I want is to skip through all the fanservice and support convos
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>>389336169
Come on, haven't you ever wanted to punch your sister in the mouth and then use the blood as extra lubrication as you fuck her face? I mean that's just what siblings do.
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Why does Corrin finally realize that some people are just better off dead in Birthright and not in Conquest?
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>>389363037
Support convos are fine, it's just the story that's horrible.
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>>389363037
Skip every bit of story you can, supports are a-okay
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>>389362698
>Scarlet
>bad
Choose one, everyone other than Corrin and Ryoma, and maybe the two titty ninjas are shitters compared to her
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>>389363124
Because Corrin is canonically a female in Conquest.
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>>389363258
She's good? She's never turned out good for me, Hinoka always caps stuff as a Spear Master and then kicks ass when I change her back to Falcon Knight but Scarlet always struggles.
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>>389329660
The lost of any creative writing talent was the real mistake. Everything else is just a consequence of that mistake.
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>>389338982
Female Coffin is a operated regard speak for yourself, she is canonicaly the protag of conquest which should tel you something about her already. People only liked because feet memes, her having tots and "lol I AM my own waifu!" While ignoring the fact that she is everything about Corrin people hate while projecting it onto the better male Coffin who has an actual spine and conviction to his cause.
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>>389363571
>not keeping her as Spearmaster for that sweet S rank in lances
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>>389347818
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>>389363623
Fucking auto correct
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>>389363571
She's a beefy flyer with wings and an axe, in the route were practically everyone is made of paper, and the only other gal made to axe and tank has jelly arms, of course she's good
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>>389363648
I'm a canon class fag, sorry.
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>>389363571
She's one of the maybe 5 tanky units you get in Birthright, with 2 of those falling off after the first half of the game.
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>>389317554
>corrin
stop its kamui he was raised in hoshido he was meant to have a japanese sounding name

fucking treehouse niggers ruin everything
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>>389349416
That would be the only good decision they made so far.
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>>389319782
I wish. If he was a proper self insert, I could make his as evil as I wanted or as good as I wanted. He got fucked because IS tried to give him his own goody two shoes personality.
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>>389363879
His mom's from which mostly has western sounding names in the localization ergo him having a western name is a-okay

Not that Treehouse aren't niggers, though having a Nohrian Prince by the name of Kamui is also pretty damn weird
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>>389352447
As someone who used to clean up a goat barn, telling someone they smell like a goat is unimaginably insulting. Every one in a while one of those things would have a smell so strong it would make your eyes water if you weren't used to it.
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>>389353495
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>>389353980
I refuse. This can't be same VA right?
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>>389323601
"What are you gonna do, kill me?"
-Quote from man killed
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It's ok because they were all mud monsters spawned from the mud monster king
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>>389364403
It always feels odd to get her to S support so quickly then ignoring her while I go after the unit I actually want to marry.
Maid is dripping wet for you judging by how fast she supports.
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>>389364658
Imagine S ranking her in basically no time, ignoring her, and all other females and then immediately marrying her older twin sister the moment she appears
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>>389351625
fuck yeah spear master mozu
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>>389364473
Felicia's VA already does some other girls in Fates and you didn't even realize. They intentionally made her sound ditzy and off-key.
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>>389365083
That's literally every Revelation playthrough. Like how is Felicia or Jakob not at S rank at chapter 8-ish.
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>>389365083
>tfw no devoted maid to cuck irl
Why aren't Felicia and Jakob considered Corrin's retainers anyway?
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>>389324354
I maxed out micaiah every playthrough, i usually give her Paragon and level her to 20 on the chapter where it's just her and the black knight.
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>>389359902
Benny's such a good boy he manages to coax the best supports out of characters with nothing but shit.
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>>389365794
Because they're servants, not formal warriors
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>>389365808
I usually have no problem getting Micky to level 20 in Part 1, but it's pretty hard to max her out by her second promotion.
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>>389365920
>Benny and Oboro
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>>389365920
Sure didn't help with Belka and Water
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>>389366124
Belka's best support is with Harold anyway so that doesn't count.
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>>389363124
He's not allowed to kill the Japanese faction because they're perfect, peaceful and dindu nuffin
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>>389366436
Then why didn't he shank Iago then, he's not perfect pure nihonjin
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>>389366686
Because only the superior Japanese morals folded over ten thousand times have the ability to detect what's wrong and what's right.
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>>389365981
Oboro in general has decent supports at least. She's like the one character from Hoshido that doesn't suck ass.
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>>389366686
Because the writers are retards. The plot could have finished in chapter 18 with minimal bloodshed if they weren't so against being """""dishonourable""""".
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>>389366857
As cool as Oboro is, I still find her quickness to go "NAH I KNOW NOT ALL YOU NOHRIANS ARE DISGUSTING PIGDOGS, IT'S FINE, ALSO IT'S A SHAME WE HAVE TO KILL EACHOTHER, PRINCE CORRIN, I COULD HAVE BEEN A PARTY MEMBER OF YOURS RIGHT NOW SLAYING NINJAS IN A FOREST IN ANOTHER WORLD"
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>>389317670
Conquest is still the best game Nintendo put out
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>>389346635
(lol
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>>389367273
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>389367713
HOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO
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>>389366686
Why didn't Iago, if his goal was to torture you and make you miserable, go after your spouse and child(ren)?
If Nohrian politics are so cutthroat, why did no one attempt to kill Iago or Hans that they might take their place?
Why was every other Nohrian perfectly okay with obeying the orders of a man who was blatantly insane, when his son and heir was clearly a far more rational, intelligent person?
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>>389367874
>spouse and children
>actually being acknowledged
Anon, please that would require effort, something the writers clearly lack if they couldn't even be assed to give their setting's continent a goddamn name, the other parts can also be answered with exactly that too
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Anyone else actually happy with the current state of FE? I know there's the "FE is dead" shit everywhere but
>Has new style games to keep the series alive and appease one part of the fanbase
>Has an older style game with some weird elements to interest another part of the fanbase
>has a mobile game to keep the franchise in people's minds and allow for new official art of characters long forgotten in the major public sphere (e.g. beautiful new art of Ike wielding his father's axe drawn by Senri Kita, the original artist)
It feels alright.
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>>389362676
>probably worth seeing everything if only because it's the "canon" route
So does that mean Corrin is canonly female?
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>>389369101
I'm pretty happy that it got big enough to be a main series now, as long as they keep making games there's a chance that they'll make something goat. Echoes renewed my hope for the series because while its maps sucked due to being faithful to the original, everything they made for the remake specifically was really good.
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Japan likes to fucking handwave murder if they had some good 'intentions' or some shit.

One of the most recent examples of this that infuriates me is Goro Akechi In Persona 5 who killed several dozen people, and then gives his sob story and has his moment of realization and -dispite having killed people whom the main characters knew- has them saying something akin to 'we forgive you' or 'No please don't die!'

This shit infuriates me that the murder of several can suddenly be forgiven for some shit reason. Love the game to death but god damn.
What else has this happened in?
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>>389367874
>Why was every other Nohrian perfectly okay with obeying the orders of a man who was blatantly insane, when his son and heir was clearly a far more rational, intelligent person?
It's mentioned that half of Nohr's army would defect to Xander if it came down to that, but that'd result in a bloody civil war which they wanted to avoid.

It's only said once though, and aside from that one scene where it's just Azura talking about it the game never hints at that kind of tension.
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>>389369101
It could be worse. I'm disgusted by FE Warriors though simply because of how bad it looks as a game and visually, not even rosterfagging.
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>>389369840
Anon the good guys don't want to kill. Not even murderers. They'd rather they be arrested. See Adachi.
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>>389369840
Baka gaijin, it's dishonourabru to murder even if killing one man will save hundreds from dying at his hand.
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>>389369101
It's become one of Nintendo's top series, gets a steady stream of games, is getting a musou spinoff, and has gacha garbage to keep older games from being completely forgotten. Fates may have had the shittiest story in the franchise, but it did other things fantastically that made it still worth playing through. And since then we've gotten Echoes which was good all around. There is nothing to not be happy about. People saying the franchise is dead are even dumber than the retards who said the same about Metroid.
>>389370170
>not even rosterfagging
You clearly are, though. The Gamescom build did look pretty wonky, but the recent build at PAX looks great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7YTM3LGwMk
Famitsu just confirmed class changes that will alter a character's weapon. Unless you get triggered by Fateswakening or just don't like musou to begin with, it's shaping up to be a solid game.
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>>389371220
>>389370946
I'm bot saying he needs to fucking die, I'm saying they shouldn't fucking forgive him!
Adachi is the best version of this. They don't forgive that fucker at all. He's the best version of this going right.
He realizes what he did, doesn't entirely regret it, but goes to jail and gets what's coming to him.
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I just started birthright with +speed, -mag and samurai as talent, did I fuck up?
I don't care much about secon generation soldiers since, at least in awakening, they come up way too late but I'm marrying Reina for the extra kid anyways

Did I make any major fuck up so far?
Any useless character I should avoid or starter tips?
I'm playing on hard/casul
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If FE4 got the Echoes treatment what console would you prefer it to be released on
3DS or Switch
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>>389372116
It's pretty damn wasteful to choose Samurai in the route were Friend Sealing with a dude who has Samurai as his class is really easy
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>>389372116
>I don't care much about secon generation soldiers
>mfw I plan all my playthroughs beforehand to create the strongest / gimmickest children
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>>389371404
How they managed to make the dub even worse than Fates?
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>>389372116
You should pick a Nohrian talent if you're playing Birthright, since you can easily become a samurai by getting A support with Hinata.
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>>389372676
Voice actor strike.
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>>389372810
Probably this.
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>>389372810
You say that like SoV didn't have GOAT Voice Acting.
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>>389317554
So what Conquest is the Law route while Birthright is chaos?
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>>389372994
Birthright is the "we wrote a FE plot, here's a FE plot" route. Conquest is the "whoops we have to shill a third game" route. Revelation is "fuck we had no story to shill yet we did it anyway".
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>>389372994
They really aren't law and chaos routes.
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>>389372994
Not even close. None of the routes truly have a Chaos route anyways.
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>>389317554
I wonder why they decided to make Ryouma's death an honorable sacrifice and absolve Takumi of any wrongdoing by explaining he was possessed while Xander remained a deluded loyalist who lost the will to live and Elise died in a way entirely intended to just be sad.
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>>389317554
So is Azura the closest thing to actual blood-related incest in this game
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>literal decades ago a game came out that was better than Fire Emblem Fates in every way and also knew how to fit multiple faction storylines on the same fucking came cartridge
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>>389377082
Xander is the blonde-haired paladin, minus Clive and Percival, they aren't allowed happiness, or to live, unless they can escape to another continent, or find a cool mask
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>>389377505
No waifus, its shit
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>>389377524
Bummer.
Clive is a lucky lad.
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>>389377415
Who the fuck needs waifus when you have Guts
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>>389377909
Whoops, meant for >>389377753
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>>389377909
But that's Rohga. Full name Rohga Assassin. It literally says so right in the pic. Twice.
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>>389377505
k
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>>389323601
It will be either FE4 or FE6/7 combined remake
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>>389377753
Bullshit.
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>>389369101
Conquest was good and Echoes tried it's best but there's more to come so I'm all right. I mean it's not great but at least we aren't in the F-Zero or Advance Wars situation.
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>>389378037
>rouge assassin
Really made me think.
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>>389371749
>I'm saying they shouldn't fucking forgive him!
You need to actually play games instead of listening to /v/. Multiple characters literally say the words "I can't forgive you"
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>>389378230
Anyone got that pic of Kana getting a bikini from her dad, or anything else on that line of borderline daughter-thirst?
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IS should lay off the remakes for a good 10 years now.
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>>389377753
>Satoshi Urushihara artwork
>no waifus

I pity a brainlet as deeply rooted in their own ignorance as you.
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>>389378735
I want my dragon daughter to join me in an oyakadon.
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>>389360165
>Desaix keeps spawning fucking Paladins every other turn
>Have to back the fuck up so I don't get surrounded in the forest map you fight Berkut in
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>>389356435
>Mfw Duma had Upheaval

That shit sucked at Duma gate, and that shit sucks now. It's already bad enough that close to 2/3rds of the map saps your health.
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THE BLOOD OF ALL OF THOSE HOSHIDANS IS ON YOUR HANDS, AZURA

WHY DIDN'T YOU SHOW XANDER THE ORB
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>>389381537
>"What foul trickery is this, Princess of Hoshido? You must be a spy from Prince Ryoma, sent to trick me into betraying my father! Prepare to die!"
The Camuses are all too loyal for their own good. Or simply retarded in Xander's case.
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>>389381740
No, she shows Xander the magical realm of wacky fightclub through the numerous means available to them (Like holy shit Lilith is a thing) with Corrin's assistance.

She explains the symptoms and he, out of all of the siblings, is most likely to go "Oh fug suddenly the last 20+ years make sense"

Corrin could have mary-sue'd him into calmness and then Garon'd be dead before they're halfway through.
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>>389382024
>that one chapter where they were in Valla
>neither Azura nor Lilith take the time to explain anything
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WHERE DID AZURA GET THE MAGIC ORB?
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>>389377909
What game is that?
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I'm going to start a playthrough where I marry Xander as a blonde female Avatar just to give birth to beautiful aryan babies, and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
Gonna be playing Revelation because the idea of the Queen of Valla being married to the King of Nohr is neat.
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>>389383869
Speaking of which, what is Corrin even ruling over in Revelations? Valla has nothing but invisible water zombies and ancient ruins. Not to mention it's at the bottom of a canyon.
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>>389383869
>half-dragon abomination
>giving birth to beautiful aryan babies
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>>389383869
Today I will remind them.
>>389383987
I don't know, maybe the Vallite spooks turn (back) into normal people when Anankos is gone? I mean, Valla was a "normal" kingdom along Nohr and Hoshido at some point in the past, right?
Or was it? I stopped paying attention to the plot after my first playthroughs of the routes.
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>>389384273
>love Hinoka's red hair
>can't stand to marry neesan off to anyone to give any of the kids that beautiful hair
Am I autistic?
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>>389384396
>marry Hinoka to Xander
>that Siegbert
How terrible.
But Hinokas red doesn't really go well with any kid.
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>>389384503

Subaki for not-Cordelia. That's about it.
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>>389384273
>Pair up Effie and Keaton
>Not only does Velouria come out FUCKING RIIIIIIIPPED, but her hair is almost perfectly white

Did the same thing with Yarne by making Lonk his dad.

Also, to answer your question, they're probably already long dead by the time you encounter them since being dead is what lets Anankos control you, so they'd just go back to being dead.
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>>389381740
>Eldigan is so god damn loyal he is willing to serve a man who clearly murdered his own father for the throne, and has shown time and time again that he fucking despises the other 2 known carriers of Hezul's blood for no reason
>Camus is loyal to Grust to a fault, and only ditches it when he gets to bang Tatiana
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what do you think lucina/chrom/whoever was supposed to be important in FEA would think if someone proved to them that their "dark god" they fought was just a science experiment created by a lunatic
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>>389383001
Der Langrisser for SNES, it's JP but has a translation patch.
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Playing Conquest for the first time since release.
Is it okay to let Camilla get knotted to ensure a stronk kid?
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>>389387680
It's either her or Effie for a stronk Trash Dog.
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The only redeemable thing about Fates is tankmen.
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>>389387929
Was worth the price of the DLC.
Having actual tanks in FE was fun as hell even if they weren't the ultra meta class that witch was.
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>>389388242
I made my Corin into an Apothecary/Mechanist before tanking up, it was a wild ride.
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>>389388503
I was considering a tanks only run but it would be hell
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