Why the FUCK do my teammates have to be special ed? I've

Play better games
Actually make friends to play with
Realize that you're the only constant across all your matches so if your average is losing across a high number of games, it's actually your fault

Team "competitive" games were a mistake

Play dps, every mouthbreather can heal or tank but these casual moba babbies can't aim for shit.
Alternatively stop playing a team based multiplayer game with randoms you stupid fuck.

>>389314661
>Team "competitive" games were a mistake
mainly this. but it works both ways. most people dont like fighting games, cause when you lose, you cant just blame your teammates or bad rng.

>>389314725
I played DPS all of the previous seasons, but I wanted to try something new because of how often DPS gets nerfed. I usually got 3 gold (damage, elims, and obj kills) and actually landed mid diamond. Playing support is a nightmare due to how much you rely on your teammates. You can be the best healer in the world with 100k healing and still lose because your tanks run in by themselves.

Quit now anon. Nothing good comes from this game.

t. was top 500 in S2 and S3. This game is hell on earth.

>>389314986
>playing winston
>team gets wiped so i back up to spawn to regroup
>"our winston is throwing gg" - mercy main btw
>"hes just sitting outside of spawn"
>proceed to feed into the other team for the rest of the match out of spite
>we lose

still enjoyed the match though

>>389315456
The exact same thing has happened to me many times. What the fuck is wrong with the people who play this game?

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>>389314492
>I've played Overwatch for about 6 hours today

>>389315456
>get called out by a Mercy main
>instead of verbally abusing them (they are weak willed and easy to put into place) you begin feeding intentionally so there is absolutely no chance of winning

Yeah man those shitters are really keeping you down

>>389314998
>t. Mercy main

>>389315456
>Somehow don't die in a lost fight as winston in a low elo game
>Get called out for being a little bitch (as your presumably are seeing as you must have bailed early to live)
>Int proving the arguable claim to be correct
Why I no gud?

Overwatch has the worst english speaking community iv ever seen.

Its can be worse than any moba at times.

>>389315980
Ana main actually

>>389316221
>CSGO
>Garry's Mod
;^)

>>389314998
But they said if I paid it would be fun!

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>>389314661
>every loss game is a complete shit stomp
>every win is hard fought
>always performing top of my team
Is it me?
>don't play enough games to average out the significance of individual games
No, that's the reason

As someone with a full time job, I imagine a lot of people who complain are like me and can only play "real" casually.
I'm someone who didn't get to level 30 in LoL until 2016 years ago, and I started in 2012.

If others are like me, that's likely why the bad teams are so annoying

>>389314492
Cause I only play Hanzo with -15% accuracy... and will forever be stuck in platinum.

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>>389314492
daily reminder that if you are consistently losing more than you win over a reasonable sample size, you are the problem. There is no such thing as rating hell. If the people at your rating are shitters, then both teams have shitters on them. If you can't compensate for shitters, then you are a shitter.

>>389315898
who says i didnt shit talk?

>>389316087
only rank 3300 on that acc. and ill do anything to piss off a mercy main

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>>389314492
>i know that felling all too well
Just got out of gold yesterday after playing 4 hours to gain 100sr. I end up carrying most of the games as junkrat. I still don't know how in the living fuck do this people get the rank they have even though they play like shit.

>>389316285
There's your problem, Ana is literally like having one less player.
>play whatever
>Ana healer
>low health but I'm not complaining, I assume they are busy healing others
>wrong
>watch healing darts just fly past hitting walls around me
>if I want healing I have to find them and stand still in front of their face

>>389316543
I was top 500 you fucking mongoloid. Kill yourself.

Foxy Grandpa reporting in, Flanking the enemy behind a Reinhardt or Orisa shield is the best feeling. Especially if a widowmaker trys to snipe you and you rush right and bash them with your gun.

>>389314492
Stop playing
The game is going to shit anyways, and it doesn't get better once your out of gold. Infact it gets worse.

>>389316591
Sure you were buddy. Just know you're ruining the game for your team.

>>389316519
I assumed you were too afraid to talk shit since you got booty bothered by a Mercy main.

>>389316652
>going to shit
Are you still in 2016?

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>Consider friending OP to help him out
>Retard in gold
Lol even my Diamond smurf can't group with you. Git gud OP. Stop healing people and start climbing.

>>389316652
this. every asshole in diamond or above thinks theyre hot shit at dps. except for all the one trick mercy and lucios

>>389316827
Learn to main Hanzo then you always "win".

>>389316683
Do you realise how powerful Ana was when she first came out?

You're some low ELO scrub who knows nothing about the game. End yourself.

Forced 50% win ratio

>>389316779
>Doomfist
>Dva becoming a DPS
>Widow changes
>Mercy changes
They are catering to the children who play. The vocal minority are crying about problems that dont exist when actual problems are ignored. I'm not going to bother getting into an argument about this because the same shit happens every time. Yelling and >implying until 404

>>389314492
Find/make friends to queue with that you can count on, whether they be good DPS players or tanks or whatever.

In solo queue the only person you can rely on is yourself and that sucks.

>playing a multiplayer game with randos

There's your problem. You're a moron playing with morons.

individual skill means jack shit in this game

>>389317036
Shit getting shittier is still shit.

>>389317132
I mean I guess, at least the game was fun pre-Ana.

This game is a skinner box
Ever woundered why you dont get to determine your maps, or pick your prefered roles, or avoid players you dont want in your games.
Well its all about the negative reinforcer.
You keep eating shit over and over untill you get that map you like with a decent team, after that its just rinse and repeat.

>>389314492
Coming from someone who plays CS, solo queing is a very big gamble. You can end up with the best possible teammates on the planet, or you'll much often end up with literal idiots who dick around in comp on purpose. The fact that you play Overwatch makes it much worse since individual and team skill is near nonexistent in it.

>>389316923
What makes you say that?
t.top 10 hanzo on overbuff

>>389317339
>paying for a skinner box

>>389317549
what? I shoot arrows

>>389314661
>Realize that you're the only constant
WRONG!

The only constant is the match making. As a support main you can get huge problems getting out of gold. Even top 500 players who make a "bronze to top 500" challenge stopping playing Mercy in gold until they reach high Masters and mostly only using Zen or Lucio, because if you can make damage, the match making will fuck your ass big time.

>>389316939
No need to be mad, healslut, it's not your fault they thank Mercy and not you.

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>>389317889
Hanzo never needs to thank someone for healing he gets 50 hp per headshot just get good at aiming

>>389314492
Play TF2 and gib some gibus scouts
You'll feel better

>>389318080
>playing fun game to distract from shit one
How does this work?

>>389317036
He's not saying the game was going to shit in 2016 because now it's better, but rather the game is already shit.

>>389318156
Why am I having trouble reading this

The game has had long enough to calibrate everyone's MMR correctly. You are at the rank you deserve, there's no trick to it, if you want to have a better rank you need to improve. There's no fucking conspiracy keeping your rank down, everyone's rated the same way.

The quickest way for most people to improve is to use coms. If your teammates aren't on coms ask them to get on in chat. If they won't join then just play as well as you can and try again next game, the more games you can convince people to use coms the more you will win.

>>389318285
Because it's poorly written

>>389318285
You've been staring at a screen for too long, and it's wrecked your vision.

>>389314492
Your issue is "main". "Maining" something in a team based shooter where you are supposed to change characters depending of the situation is the issue. People don't really play the objective in Overwatch, they are generally very very passive and they insist on using Genji, Hanzo, Ana, Widowmaker shitter combo even all of these characters at once in lot of matches. You shouldn't play Quickplay at all because it's a sure way to get pissed off and frustrated. Only option is to play Competitive and you need to be able to communicate with people and change your fucking character. Don't say you "main" because it gives you away as a shitter.

>>389318406
nou its cuz my teammates r bad

Daily remember that if you claim to "main" a character, you have autism. If you can't counter pick, that's why you're in silver.

>>389317763
That does not invalidate what he said.

If the reason you aren't climbing in rank is because you insist on playing a character that is low impact or bad then you need to start changing characters. The game is not forcing you to main the heal slut, there are some games where she is appropriate and some where she isn't. If you are making bad decisions then you deserve to go down in rank.YOU ARE THE ONLY CONSTANT.

It seems to be your first season in which you have to do the rank grind and you're making a typical mistake: If you are good never play support until you're in diamond or higher.
In the low tiers the players do not teamwork, which is the main reason they are in the low tier to begin with, and a support hero without a team playing around it is a wasted slot. With a bit of skill you will be able to take down 2-3 enemies by yourself should you play a tank or dps hero and this usually helps to carry your team to victory. Healing a bad player who then dies without getting a few kills in return is a waste of time and healing more of them doesn't fix the issue at hand - they are bad and don't know how to capitalize on their HP advantage.

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>only one healer
>switch to hanzo

Why does it feel so good throwing in this game bros?

>>389319760
cause the players are such manchildren

>>389318080
How's the community in that game still? Alive? I really miss playing it sometimes.

>>389319760
My nigga, been throwing every season from master till bronze, gotta love when they see the diamond icon in their team, they get so happy ... then they lose, holy shit this gets me rock hard every time

>>389314492
if you cantt get out of gold you are literally just not good

>>389320227
It's as alive as it has been for years. If the Pyro update ever happens, it'll be doing pretty well. Community servers aren't as big anymore, but you can always find plenty of matches.

>>389319194
>YOU ARE THE ONLY CONSTANT.
kill yourself, this is the stupidest argument ever

>>389320870
The update for that game is coming on October, Halloween period. It's going to be fine.

>>389321876
Did they announce that?

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>>389320870
>>389321876
TF2 players xDD

Can't you fucking virgin faggot betas learn that Overwatch is the superior game?

Like fucking seriously, how the fuck do you still play that outdated shit xD! That shit failed ever since Overwatch came out and it cant keep up kid.

Go outside for once in your life and you will see that everyone talks about Overwatch and no one talks about TF2!

>>389322084
>valve isn't afraid to release current player numbers
>blizzard is
How do they get away with it?

>>389314492
>6 hours straight of OW

Good lord, just stop.

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>>389322184
Hm.... you're a fucking faggot xD

Like seriously like fucking blizzard has like 3 million registered players you stupid nerd xD for real

Valve cant even maintain a quarter of that for TF2 like how ignorant can you be faggot?

>>389322428
>3 million
Get with the picture, man! They just bundled it with ink cartridges in Mexico, they're up to 25 million "players" now!

>>389314492
I started playing overwatch because of the anniversary free weekend. I got placed in gold and climbed to diamond. If you're stuck in gold it's your own fault. Especially since you're a support main, and climbing as support is way easier since nobody wants to play it.

>>389314492
Play symmetra. Mine the salt, have a 70%+ winrate.

>>389319760
Because you'll still get a card as torb just for throwing armor at yourself.

>>389314492
Mercy

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>>389322610
Ahahaha nice bait virgin faggot ;^)

Stay mad that your garbage game is dead

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>>389322648
You are very delusional if you think that climbing as a support is easier than climbing as a tank or DPS. You can't really kill the enemy team consistently as a support unless you play Zen. If you get shit teammates who can't kill, you're healing people who can't kill. They may live longer, but in the end they're not going to kill anyone which means you lose.

>>389314492
Ana is so fucking shit now, it makes me sad. Don't plat Ana in gold because retards won't protect you if you get dived/will chill in Winston's bubble even though they should know you can't heal through barriers.

>>389323176
Unfortunately out of all the supports I like playing Ana and Zen the most. It's tough being an Anafag.

>>389314492
>I've played Overwatch for about 6 hours today, and out of all my games, I've won about 2.
The only constant is you, bud.

>>389314492
if you are good at the game play something else with solo carry potential like soldier 76, mccree or zarya, i was gold, so i start playing zarya and i got into diamond fast. in gold para has a lot of solo carry potential, no one has aim , so phara can easily stomp the other team, and when they try to counter you they usually fail.

>>389314725
Too bad nobody wants to actually play support, so you have decent players with a brain who end up maining the job.

>>389314492
play more bastion

>>389316543
>top 500 players are the same as your bronzie brethren
lmao

>>389323007
I climbed to diamond with Lucio and Mercy as my most played characters.

I didn't intend it that way, I just picked heroes based on what I thought would give the team the highest possibility of wining based on what other people picked.

Again, if you're stuck it's your own fault.

>>389314492
Take a break from Overwatch and play some Paladins for a bit, you'll be glad you did.

>>389314492
Pick Mcree or any meme character if your team doesn't want to play seriously and just dick around.

>>389314492
Bruh just play with no mic.

>>389314492
I was diamond first couple seasons back when I had friends to play with.
They stopped playing and I did solo queue which brought me down and kept me in gold.

Simply, if the team isn't willing to work together you'll just have a hard time. The only way to rank up consistently in solo q is to just hard carry with some form of DPS because getting kills is about all people on your team will understand.
Just start playing tracer. She's really fucking easy and even if you fuck up her ult you'll get it back in a minute.

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i got a bit bored with the game a bit before doomfist and since coming back i have only done 5 or so comp placement matches so far but whats with junkrat being so popular all of a sudden? hes been picked by both teams every match so far and i dont know if i should be happy or angry about it
i know they gave him a second mine and faster tire but was that all it took to make him a high tier character?
mostly played junk/zen/sym at high plat before i originally stopped

>>389324174
I think people are just excited that a character they like isn't as trash anymore, not that he's suddenly a must-pick for people who had no interest to begin with. I expect the number of people picking him will fall off over time.

>>389320405
enjoy your permaban you stupid fuck

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>team doesn't have Orisa

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I played Overwatch for the first time at my cousin's house. I was using D. Va and winning a great deal of matches, as well as getting many kills. Am I just a scrub and she's broken? Or did I find the perfect character for me to play as?

>>389321871
accept you're bad, it's the first step to solving your problem

>>389321871
Not an argument.

>>389322084

With the level of retardation of /v/ these days, I'm not sure if this is ironic shitposting or just shitposting

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>Playing Overwatch

>>389324564

>he genuinely believes in le kapplan's anti-throwing logarithms

grow up retard, there is no way that people can tell out of thousands of games which ones people are throwing

>game designed from the ground up to be as simple and skilless as possible; meant for idiots who don't want to play FPS in the first place
>featuring characters where you literally just sit still and hold down LMB and your fucking weapon locks on to whatever is on screen so you can easily 1v3+

>hurr why is everyone in this game such a fucking retard?

Question for the ages, OP. Why the fuck are you playing this piece of shit?

>>389315456
>give up like a fucking loser
>wonder why you keep losing

Please, stay in this piece of shit fake hugbox game and away from all the shit I play. I don't even have to say that, you wouldn't have the capacity to play them in the first place.

>>389324780
your cousin is in bronze/silver and you're just facing off against people who are worse than AI

>>389325886

He's got like, 1400 points or something. Is that bronze or silver?

>>389314492
>>>/vg/
You're not gonna get help for anything Overwatch related here.

>>389316827
>every asshole in diamond or above thinks theyre hot shit at dps.
This is true at silver to plat as well. Arguably worse since at least half the time they have good aim at diamond.

>>389325950
You were playing against children and people who have never played an FPS in their lives.

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>>389325974
I fucking hate /vg/. I went there once to look at the overwatch thread, and it was nothing but circlejerking and waifuposting. Fucking disgusting.

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>>389325950
>1400

>>389317036
Dva is the only problem of those four.
Mercy's new ult is kinda busted but not conceptually. It just needs tweaking.

>>389314492
Maybe you're the one fucking up the games

>>389326091

Answer the question

>>389314492
The game is shit. Literally "diversity, the game".

>>389319194
>team instapicks hanzo widow genji doomfist
>5th guy is forced to tank and takes roadhog
>forced to heal

but ur le only constant xD

No, kill yourself.
The only constant is the garbage playerbase.

>>389314492
If you aren't carrying, you're gonna lose.

>>389324780
Dva is strong and really easy to play.

>>389326198
It's Bronze, the lowest tier. Silver starts at 1500.

>>389326238
The enemy team is dealing with that the same number of games

>>389326402
But not the game where I'm up against them, anon.

>>389314492
roughly 1 out of 3 games are automatic loses no matter what you do, 1 out of 3 is an automatic win no matter what you do, and the remaining game you can win or lose depending on how well you're playing.

>>389321871
He's right though. OP even states that he's maining a certain type of character. It might be the time to use another role or master multiple roles so you can fit in better with the rest of the team. Anyone you can consider high tier at a team based game will tell you that you can't blame the other players for one's lack of progress eternally. If you're stuck, you might need to think about how you can change your approach.

>>389326402
Not always in the same game though. One team can be in complete shambles while the other is just full of semi competent people doing their thing.

Just because there's an equal chance of both teams being fucked up doesn't mean they'll both be fucked up at the same time.

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The thing is there's nothing wrong in being in like gold or platinum or whatever as long as you're having fun because you're playing on your level. But the real issue with those brackets is that nobody has any fun there. Literally everybody thinks they're entitled to Masters even though that's like 5% of the entire playerbase so everybody, EVERYBODY is in constant tilt over literally everything. Not meta pick? You bet your ass your team is tilted. Didn't capture the point right away? That's a-throwin'.

There's just no fun to be had because people are too focused on winning 100% of the time and that doesn't happen to even the proest of pros

>>389317036
>dva changes
>bad

>widow changes
>bad

>mercy changes
>>>>>bad

Mercyshitter detected.
God I'm glad all you faggots will finally have to learn how to play

>>389326697
D.va becoming a pseudo DPS is kinda bad.
The other changes are fine.

>>389326650
What he means is that if you are playing by yourself, the probability of you have bad players vs the other team having bad players is exactly the same.

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>>389326238

If it's the MM matching you with retards that's your problem then your opponents have the exact same problem.

The argument is always the same from you people, and the universal truth that you're unable to refute is always present. If there was a true "forced 50" nonsense and your skill as an individual had no impact on the game, there would be no people who consistently clime to high ranks every single season. There wouldn't be players with consistent 60+% winrates. Yet there are literally thousands of both.

Your self-pity is disgusting.

>>389326487
Not the dude you are replying to. I generally agree with your statement, but in most cases players main for a reason. It would take too long to gitgud at all roles. It sucks when people autolock shit and then proceed to fucking blow cocks in turbo mode.

>>389314492
Overwatch is a shit game anon, theirs no reason to play it.

>>389314661
>>389314492
just play individually, dont care about your team
play good, focus on yourself, mute your team if you have to.
most of the team "comms" is useless shit you could figure out yourself anyway.

>>389326805
The odds are actually on your side. Since the people raging about how the playerbase sucks at the game consider themselves good at the game, there's already one good player in your own team while the other side is completely random.
Therefore according to this, you should eventually end up climbing in rank by the maths alone.

>>389326980
i have been preaching this shit for a long time, people who blame rng and shit teams when they have 300+ games are full of shit and are probably just bad

>>389326805
>the probability of you have bad players vs the other team having bad players is exactly the same.
Like I said, just because there's an equal chance of either team having bad players doesn't mean that it's just as likely that both teams will have equally bad players. More often than not the teams will either be skewed for or against you.
Only like half of the matches you play are fair games.

Doesn't mean you can't climb if you're good enough. It's just frustrating when you get that bad roll.

>>389326402
Wrong, the enemy team always manages to have a good comp.
Once in a blue moon you get to be on that team, but right after that win its back to 3dps 2sniper

>>389326931
>It would take too long to gitgud at all roles.
How so ? It's a FPS with 4 roles ? How hard can it be to gain experience at say 2 roles when the skill factors (being aiming well and knowing the maps) is 80% identical from one character to the next ?

>>389315623
I really, REALLY like this pic

>>389327192
creativity in engaging and disengaging

it takes a lot of people a really long time to learn what works and what doesn't

>>389326857
>implying the game doesn't appoint some players the "make other players feel better by being easy fodder" role

I'm a platshit at best and I was matched against a top500 once.

>>389327313
But it doesn't make any sense. Granted all characters have their own mechanics but this is but a small percentage of necessary personal skill to be good at the game -yourself-. It remains a FPS first and foremost, the core mechanics that requires training are knowing how your weapons act, aiming skillfully and knowing the map. The last 20% is understanding your character's meta and role within the team.

>>389326980
>>389327046
DUUUHHH EVERYBODY IS GOOD EXCEPT FOR YOU THE ODDS ARE IN YOUR FAVOR NO MATTER WHAT. IF I SAY LITERALLY THE OPPOSITE OF EVERYTHING OTHER PEOPLE SAY THAT MEANS ME SMART

zarya or winston

mic

easy masters

>>389327718
That 20% is what you'll lack until you git gud after hours of failure. Very few people actually are skilled enough to fill, even in a class-based fps.

That's why gold is shitter and plat is shitter elite.

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>>389327962
I have anxiety issues and I'm self-conscious about my voice

>>389328295
why would you play a team game then

I've been stuck in Diamond my whole life.

Honestly just unfun.

>>389328037
B-But anon, it's a FPS. It's just like saying "I'm maining M4" In CS or "engineer" in Battlefield. The fact that Blizzard is trying very hard to make it a esport doesn't mean it's hiding layers of complexity it doesn't have.
The fact that you can switch character at any time the same way you can switch weapons and role at any time in any other FPS means just that: that a different situation warrants a different approach.

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>>389328358
I just want to play vidya and have fun with teammates. I didn't think it would require me talking over the mic. My voice gets really shaky when I try talking to people online and offline.

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>>389327093
>more often than not skewed
>half the time they're not skewed
Pick one, faggot.

>>389314492
pocket the tanks, get a fuckton of heal = ultimate charge, spam nano on your rein/winston every teamfight, personally got out of gold back in Season 4 by playing Pharah and having a Mercy pocket me, goldtards can't aim for shit

also git gud at sleeping, and accept the fact that ana isn't meta when they have winston/d.va who block your heal darts without your team doing anything about it and switch to mercy/lucio, ana's gonna be pretty much useless after mercy's rework soon

t: gm tankmain and brother of a gm ana main

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>>389328818
mfw I got 8818

>>389328389
You are still giving plat players way too much credit. Is it as complex as a moba? No. But it is much more complex than a game where one gun is meta, and the rest are trash.

>>389314492
>It's another "Anon plays team-based game by himself and then bitches" episode

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>solo queue support
You cucked yourself.

>>389314492
Game sucks if you can't carry by yourself.

This game is entirely for the casual esports mass marketed group
>Esports check
>Diverse heroes so everyone can relate too check
>Shallow and easy to learn gameplay with epic q presses to feel skilled check
>lootboxes and cosmetics check
>Skill level devolves into knowing when to press q at the right time and what current meta has been shit out

It's like a bunch of directors all sat down and thought about how to make a shooter game

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>>389328295
>use mic at start of game when everyone is friendly to each other
>team starts losing and everyone starts tilting badly
>fuck up on your ult and everyone starts talking shit to your face
>they now know you have a mic and you're hearing every insult they throw at you

whew lad i just pretend i don't have a mic 95% of the time

I've taken to waiting for everyone to pick in a competitive match and hopefully if we need a tank/healer I immediately pick Hanzo.

I do switch to whatever is needed before the match really starts, but the salt you get from teammates is so unbelievably delicious.

>>389330432
DEVILISH

>play with strangers
>lose a lot
>well I guess it's the random players who are the consistent link, it's not my fault!

>>389318406
>actually believing this

I've seen people in the top 500 that can't aim for shit, completely ignore what their team is doing, and will spend 5 minute straight trying to get revenge on one player.

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>>389330315
>ask if anyone has a mic at the start of the game
>crickets
>DEFEAT
>guy decides to turn on his mic
>Dude, anon, never fucking player (anon's hero) ever again you fucking faggot
>guy has left the game

>>389324780
DVa is a real easy character to use. Not much aim required. Mostly you need to know where to position (doggie best btw). When you get plat you need to coordinate with your team on when to push.

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>>389330594
>be mercy main diamond player
>suddenly join a comp game full of GM/top 500
>make a shitty play that ends up costing the game
>get cussed out by a #1 rank pro tracer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FAn7h1o3c0

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get really good at an attacker.
play your main role, when you are inevitably matched with drooling retards who lock damage and cant kill shit, switch to your damage main.
the damage role is the one that decides games i didnt start climbing until i started showing up dipshit bastion mains and hanzos.

>>389316543
did you start playing overwatch last month? god you are stupid

>>389314492
After more than 2500 hours in the game I must say if you can't carry you are pretty much stuck where you are. I tried everything for 5 seasons and after my placements in 6 I think I will give up and "just" play.

If you solo or small team Q most matches are coin flips. The team who clicks better will stomp the other. Many times it is not just about carry skill but how you go with the playstyle of others. Of course it is terrible getting in teams where nobody can shoot or heal but most of the time it is about synergy which you can only build in a match out of sheer LUCK. I played matches with the same people several times and sometimes they demolished the enemy team, sometimes struggled to get a kill because their teammates played entirely differently or nobody could counter them.

And there is the big team (5-6 sometimes 4) matches where you supposedly know your teammates. The matchmaking actively discourages this type of play if you want to climb. The opposition will be much harder and you have to fight for your life in every second. The "snowball" effect is painfully obvious in these matches. If you lose the first one or two fights not only your team preforms worse under the pressure but the enemy will have constant ult advantage. You can't luck out wins against a big team, like in small team or solo q.

>>389330594
And that is how you spot the team shitter

>>389331009
>if you can't carry you are pretty much stuck where you are
every game with ranked ever, and even then shit teamm8s will throw now and again.

>>389330910
B-but anon... The damage hero I main is the hero that all the shitters instalock (S76)...

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>>389330881
>be mercy main

>daily "I'm stuck in gold pls halp" threads
>every OP is a healer main
>every single thread every OP gets told to learn a DPS and actually win their own games
>no one listens and just makes another thread to get told the exact same thing as every other "I'm shit but I swear I'm not" thread

>tfw literal shitter
I can't have fun playing this game because 99% of the other players have played at least 2k hours of other FPS. If that's not the case, that's definitely what the skill gap between us feels like. Guess I'll just go back to JRPGs.

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Today I will remind them.

>>389331243
see>>389314986

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>>389331346

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>>389331407

>>389331367
He's a retard and you're a mongoloid for believing him.

>>389331185
I played quite a few games team games where I could climb by just being useful, but in Overwatch you have to compensate hard for other people. I'm not saying I'm the best player in the world and I have matches as well where I'm very useless but most bad teams do basic things wrong and they don't even have a chance to win. When the game was fresh you could turn the tide with lucky planned ults, but now it is more like a tool for the winning team to block your ults.

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>>389331461

>>389314736
>most people dont like fighting games, cause when you lose, you cant just blame your teammates or bad rng
But when you win, it's only your victory, so it feels X times better?

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>>389331317
Are you fucking kidding me? 99% of the people playing Overwatch have never played another FPS. Because if they did, they wouldn't play it because they would know how shit it is in comparison.

>>389331546
Not the guy you replied to but most of the time when I win I don't even know how it happened. I just do what I supposed to do and enemies dropping like flies instead of us.

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>>389331192
then yer fucked.
i still cannot comprehend how people can fail to get kills as soldier.
im climbing through plat and i still regularly see them mag dumping into genji deflects, and ignoring pharas then bitching when they get a rocket powered prostate exam.

>>389331346
>>389331367
>>389331407
>>389331461
>>389331520
Too many words. Can someone give me a rundown?

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>>389331586
Another shitter here
>you played fps since doom 2
>you are terrible in OW and get destroyed by people who probably play the game as their first FPS

>>389314492
>I've played Overwatch for about 6 hours today,

jesus nigga take a fucking break

>>389331586
They might play it for reasons other than it being a good game. I personally only have it as something I play with a friend, and almost never queue up alone. At any rate, I get frustrated if I play any character but Mercy or Mei, and even though I've put around 200 hours in I still feel like I'm shit at the game, so there's no reason to keep going.

>>389314725
>every mouthbreather can heal or tank
And yet no one does

>>389331657
Overwatch sucks.

>>389320227
I actually have trouble finding games sometimes but playin on VSH/ Freak fortress is still fun

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>>389331707
>tfw you're forced to play inferior games because the superior ones no longer have people playing them
This is... our future.

>>389316598
>Rushing up on a widow
>As captain no vertical mobility options.
Maybe in low silver.

>>389331520
Jesus christ you tf2 fags just dont stop do you?

>win 2/10 placements
>get 3300
wtf is this lads?

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tried paladins for the lulz

>>389316543
>tales from the trench.txt

flush yourself

>>389314661
Matchmaking is a flawed system. To escape Elo hell you have to be multiple times better than your teammates and force them to win

>>389332008
It's based on where you placed last season, nibblet. Fucking morons up at blizzard make me want to kill myself.

>>389332118
/thread

>>389332039
That's even worse due to it being F2P, just look at that mal'damba in your team, also you have 0 chance of a comeback if you get stomped at the start

>>389314492
>as a support main
There you go
You let those dumb fucks from gold play dps/tanks, which are far more important roles at that rank.

Being a good dps at koth increases your chances to win 10 times more than being a good support. Being a good tank at assaults increases your chances to win 10 times more than being a good support.

The strength of a good support can only be appreciated at masters and above.

>>389332008
>6 seasons in and people still don't know how placement matches work

>>389314492
>play game for retards
>complains about retards
You're a retarded faggot op good job.

>>389332260
Yeah, but I was bitchgoblin, where an ult means a quadra or penta, and my friend playing viktor was there to clean shit up. that seris was a cunt though.

>>389332008
Placements dont mean dick

>>389314492

Git Gud nub

Guys don't worry I found out the secret to winning in competitive

>turn off mic and chatbot
>instantly start winning

Earlier today, the tank on my team complained that we only had one healer. Lucio called him "toxic"

>>389314492
>playing a game designed for retards
>"wow why are there so many retards"

Just stop playing my friend. The game had me in it's clutches for nearly 800 levels but now I'm free of this shitty community. You can also be free.

honestly, I'm having much more fun playing Deathmatch than rank or anything else. It feels good being able to get first place or even in the top four knowing that no one is holding you back

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OP here. Why the fuck is this shitty thread still up? This shit's been up for 6 hours dude.

>>389314492
"I am playing a cooperative competitive shooters with random players." - Repeat this until you understand why you're retarded.

>>389332039
I also used to believe that people were utter trash, past the first 5 levels when you're against bots. But you know the reason?
When you leave the game by disconnecting for instance. A bot takes control of all your actions. And the bot is fucking shit. So sometimes you'll feel like a good that stomps people, but that's not because the enemy suck. It's most likely because someone left.

And how do I know that? I watched in one of those site tracking your stats. I had a game I had to leave where I killed 3 guys, died once and I had to go. The final score was basically 3 kills for 28 deaths.

This system is super shit, considering that the game disconnects you and you have no way of reconnecting.

>>389335548
I have seen the bot thing you are talking about. Maybe a few of the more well-rounded scorers were DCs, but those two maldambas were bona fide shitters. I watched them run around the map, chasing one-another, never using anything but their auto. It would have been funny if it wasn't so sad.

Don't play support
or even better
Stop playing overwatch since it's a shit game

>>389337498
this

>>389314492
>Out of gold hell
I got out of gold into plat while trying to get into silver.
Even picking the shittiest heroes possible I couldn't lose more games than I won due to the other team being retarded.
You can get out of gold playing any hero moderately well, and the only reason you're stuck there is because you're unable to do that.

>Don't worry, if you're good, you'll climb out of Gold based on your individual skill
Is this true? Even then, it's not like most heroes don't require support; soldier does so much damage because the tank is being distracted, etc.

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>>389331346
>>389331407
>>389331461
>>389331520
someone is actually this bad at the game that they spent an hour of their life writing this

It's the year 2017 and yall are still playing overwatch

The game is fundamentally fucked
It's a multiplayer game with zero incentives to play other than cosmetics
And those cosmetics are gotten through random fucking chance lootboxes

New, significant content comes out like once every six months, and more often than not it only makes the game worse
I legit think that most of the changes they've made since launch have only made the game less fun

What the hell does one gain by playing overwatch at this point? Anything? Anything at all?
Because all it does for me anymore is make me angry and want to play a better multiplayer game

>>389338272
it is true. even at a 50/50 win rate, if you're performing well enough you will climb, just slowly.

>tfw main tanks
>10 and 5 this season

doin pretty gud, the secret to winning is not being a fucking pussy support main like OP

>>389316536
Gold/Plat is the Gold Nova to Master Guardian.
They think they know how to play, but in reality, they just know how to use the given controllers sufficiently well. They're still rough around the edges.

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>>389317224
So the first fucking month of the game?

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>My team sucks
>I main xx
>I'm a support main
>it's Hanzo and Widow's fault

If winning is your goal, then complaining isn't gonna get you there. Maining one class or hero is also a good way to get you losses. The game literally revolves around counter picking.
>oh there's a Genji, Tracer, Doomfist, Winston, Lucio zipping around the payload indefinitely
>I'll pick Junkrat and place a trap!

>oh that Junkrat is wrecking somehow, and he's stacking Ults with Zarya
>if only we had a hero that outranges both of them like Pharah, or shields we can put up with our own Zarya, Winston, Orissa, Reinhardt, or defense matrix outright eating the surge, or a Mei wall we can put up, or any hero that can shoot a tire

>they have too much healing and no one is picking them off!
>let me switch to Widow and poke holes through skulls

The #1 reason you lose is because you don't switch, or a teammate doesn't switch, off a hero that is clearly not a good pick for the situation. Like why the fuck would you stick with Pharah if the other team has a Soldier, McCree, and a Torbjorn, and your only healer is Ana? Why won't you pick Zarya to babysit your back line and encourage your team to stack Ults? Because you're "maining?"

>>389316543
>people actually took this bait

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>team-based competitive shooter
>your team is never at fault
>any complaints met with "you're the only constant"
>team-based competitive shooter

>>389314492
My tips are:
>Play with a friend or 2 (not 3 or more).
Quickplay is always fine, but I only play rankeds with my cousin or a friend. I know they are good, so at least one decent player on my team is always skilled, and we coordinate very well because we know each other. It makes a huge difference. Playing with other 3 friends is risky and more difficult, unless you're all REALLY good at cooperation.
>Play rankeds, if you lose 2 games in row, stop and try again the next day, or at least a few hours later.
I know the feeling. You lose points and you don't want to finish the day in a worse position than the one you started at, but the more you try after losses, the more impatient you are. It sucks, but it actually works well, at least for me.
>Use voice chat only if you're fine with it
Voice chat is not obligatory to win. If talking with random people distracts you, just avoid it.
>Play just a few champions really really well.
Focus on 1-2 roles and learn specific champions. A limited pool of well-played champions is far better than switching between 12 different heroes.

>>389314492
The idea of "mains" in a game like Overwatch is such a ridiculous concept to me. It's bad enough in stuff like DotA 2 but at least that has a reasonable skill ceiling.

>>389314492
Guess you're bad OP. I main suport and the 3 times i played ranked i climbed to plat in less than a week, naturally.
I mained Lucio/Ana back then, this year i mained Lucio and Mercy since they turned Ana into SHIT. But this game sucks, you mostly dont have fun at all, and Blizz panders to the comunity to much.
Since the comunity is shit, the game turns to shit as well. Ana/Roadhog nerfs are proof of that.
Playing with a team is such a chore, if you dont carry you dont climb. Switch gams or git rly gud.

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You team can be the reason you lose or win but you are still the only constant.

>>389344207
>anon plays on a whole bunch of different teams and experiences a lack of synergy, and can't win
>it's everyone else's fault
>expecting anyone to believe that you're the exception to the rule
sorry m8, you're not special, you're just like everyone else, you just don't realise that you're shit because you live in a bubble, but if you're so determined to prove something then upload footage of your placement matches to show us all how you're great and losing is never your fault, and make me eat my words

>>389341069
Actually, yes. At least for me, that's when I actually had fun in that game. I can't tolerate the flaws anymore though. Been like 6 months since I quit

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Had this exchange with a mercy main yesterday. Why do they all think they're better than they are!

>>389314492
lern 2 quake or unreal tournament you fucking casual

>>389326468
kek desu

>>389316424
If you're working, don't waste your free time on shit meme (((competitive))) games, try to play SP games instead

>>389346103
When did calling someone white became an insult?

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Unfortunately you can't just play by yourself and expect to climb to the top 500, as nice as that'd be. You need to have friends, you need to communicate, you need to be good at aiming, etc.

I wish it was as easy as just jumping in and carrying four other people to victory, but it's not. I've personally given up on climbing the ranks and have resorted to simply trolling my way to the bottom. It's not worth it.

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>>389346103

> I'm not even white.

>>389346554

Around the same time it became an insult to call someone Black or Mexican.

>>389339964
>It's a multiplayer game with zero incentives to play other than cosmetics

Just like TF2.

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>>389314492
>Not being the top player in a literal press Q to win babbyshooter
Just give up on vidya altogether.

>>389346697
I'm still very happy that I'm white and not some gross color. I'm all the colors combined,
spread peace!

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>>389314492
>playing ranked
You have only yourself to blame.

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>>389314492
I was at Gold bracket at launch, playing pretty much exclusively supports (all of them, depending on the lineup/situation), and the only way I could climb was to queue with a competent high skill dps player. Just pocket that player as much as possible and and you will win games, even though your team might cry that they arent getting enough healing. You should absolutely heal your team, but focus on your dps buttbuddy.

>>389347119
Also, forgot to say that I've since climbed to mid-Masters bracket.

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>>389314492
>playing team games like overwatch, paladins or dota 2
>expecting your allies to play to win as a team and not trying to just pick whatever they want to play and blame the team when they lose because of a 4 DPS 1 healer lineup, where half of the DPS are shit like snipers that sit back and kill nothing with their shit aim
>SERIOUSLY expecting """""""teamwork"""""""

You play these games just to suffer.

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>>389345886
The only constant is the RNG of matchmaking.

A player staying on objective and missing a few shots is entirely different from someone being 2 miles away from the objective missing every single shot.

While the effort of the entire team either results in a win or a loss, different players have varying amounts of impact. Some will contribute more to said win or loss.

>>389314492
Best advice you could ever get in a team game like this is to NEVER, EVER flame anyone or get salty. It's better you stay quiet or even mute chat if you're getting mad, because flaming will not only drop team morale, but people might actively try to play worse just to spite you. You won't get anywhere if you talk shit.

>>389328295
>Overwatch faggots being insecure about their bitchy voices

Why am I not surprised?

>>389331346
>these issues that have since been fixed are a huge problem!
>these designs aren't original because I say so!
wew lad

>>389347689
>rng of matchmaking
you get put with players at a similar mmr, there's outlying cases like smurfs and people tanking their mmr, but in the long run, it evens out; all six players on the other team experience the same rng
again, post your qualifying matches for this season and prove it, prove that you are unfairly treated by matchmaking, prove that you really are stuck in elo hell

>>389347013
Quickplay is literally unplayable as you get quad DPS, symmetra and roadhog 80% of the time.

Comp is the only gamemode that at least has a standard comp most of the time.

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>Stuck in diamond
>Always die because we get overwhelmed by Tanks
>Decide to try pic related
>70% win rate, now Masters
I'm not even good at him, it's his mere existence that forces the enemy team to entirely change their play style from relying on tanks to being patient and it works out great

>>389348002
>pick Reaps
>hear Genji jumping around me
>just look at him
>he immediately deflects and dashes away from me
>proceed to go rape their tanks uncontested
I love Reaper so much, he literally makes people shit their pants because of the sheer damage output.

>>389347987
Matchmaking tries to create balanced teams based on additive math, not a middle value.
It doesn'tr try and match 5 equally skilled players with similar stats and such, but tries to combine various players so that it amounts to a similar number. This is especially true in games that don't have true soloqueue and player skill can be more spread out.

Making the mistake of thinking that all players on a team are around the same skill level is a mistake. You should assume everyone in your team is worse than you. If you start being more positive and make assumptions of what they should know or be able to do you will get fucked.

>>389347987
>qualifying matches
They dont mean shit. They are mostly just based on your previous season high/final SR. You can literally play like a retard and get 10 losses and still get roughly the same MMR as you ended up with last season. It's just the illusion of a fresh start.

>>389347998
>caring about comp
Fucking rankfags.
Just a pick a character you feel like playing at the moment and go.

>>389348532
More like see what slots are available, use what I need to touch up on and then play that role.

>>389348532
People like you who join ranked just to pick Junkrat/Hanzo and have "fun" and ruin the match for everyone else should get banned permanently from comp. Comp is for tryharding.

>>389348275
bluntly put your skill at winning matches gives you your mmr, skill is impossible to measure and is inferred by your wins and losses, putting you between x and y
>>389348352
I don't give two shits about the resulting sr, anon is saying that he carries hard every game and his team mates let him down every time, I only suggested posting his qualifying matches so that he can't cherry pick examples

>>389314492
>started an excel sheet tracking my SR, win/loss, if the game was good or bad, and why i lost or why the other team lost
>most games have throwers, one-tricks, or idiots
>win streaks are always followed by lose streaks
>when there isn't a streak going, it's win, loss, win, loss
>i have a 60% win rate with winston and zenyatta, and i'm still stuck in fucking gold

>>389314492
>How the fuck do I get out of gold hell as a support main?

Hold square at the spawn, get good with Doomfist, pray to god your teammates can capitalize on you already killing most of the squishy DPSfags

t. Doomfist main

>>389348729
>bluntly put your skill at winning matches gives you your mmr, skill is impossible to measure and is inferred by your wins and losses, putting you between x and y

The point is that matchmaking doesn't work the way most people think it does.
For example in Dota 2 there's lots of stuff under the hood that alters who gets matched with who.
Someone winning a lot will get matched with people losing a lot to try and counter balance. This is to help the losing player get a win, but it makes it harder for the winning player to keep winning because he's getting matched with (possibly) worse players or someone that is just very frustrated.

You should not assume that matchmaking is fair and that the players you're matched with are gonna play roughly as well as you.

>>389322084
low quality bait is low quality

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In my experience in games like Overwatch and Paladins, fucking up the back line or distracting like 2 people and keeping them away from objectives is what typically makes you win.
Even if you're the tank and your job is to stand on the frontline, if no one on your team is flanking the enemy or distracting them you should. If 2 players are too busy chasing you for 20 seconds or something or you cause confusion by attacking their supports and lower hp heroes that creates room for your team to take the objectives.

>>389348902
>Hold square
Consolefag get out, your opinion is not relevant here.

>playing zenyatta
>throwing out orbs like a mad man
>healing everwhere
>everyone's got an orb
>tearing everything up
>despite this, team gets shit pushed in
>look at stats
>gold and silver damage and elim medals
>the dps can't keep up
>dps proceedes to not be able to get kills
>lose with gold medals because baby dps

This is insufferable

>>389349062
all overwatch matchmaking does is stick twelve people with similar mmr and groupings together in a game, and it does that consistently, it doesn't look to see if someone is a mercy one trick, or on a winning streak, so sometimes you can get shafted with your team mates, but it's random, it doesn't favour one person and actively attempt to keep another one down

>>389348719
>People like you who join ranked
>join ranked
I haven't touched ranked since season 1 because it was pure garbage. Overwatch just does not work on a competitive level.
Either just jump into QP or Arcade, or just dump the game enitrely. Ranked is a waste.

>high diamond
>five matches in a row I get a hanzo main
>they probably have a twitch channel with 2 viewers, one being their mom the other their cousin, so they feel priviliged to instalock hanzo and never go off
I love this game when people aren't mongoloids but too often they are

>>389349531
That's why I said people LIKE you, because there are plenty of people who don't give a shit about being competitive who still queue comp.

>>389349531
>Overwatch just does not work on a competitive level

???

>>389346103
>console players
You should be ashamed playing FPS on gamepad

>>389314492
>Why the FUCK do my teammates have to be special ed?
because that's blizzard's target audience

>>389314492
>Why the FUCK do my teammates have to be special ed?
Because you're playing Overwatch

>>389349802
>>Overwatch just does not work on a competitive level

It really wasn't designed for it. It was a game designed for casuals but later on they tried to force esports into it (because Blizzard doesn't have SC anymore, HotS didn't take off and Overwatch was the only game they had left).

>>389351227
Explain what makes it not competitively viable compared to other, in your opinion, competitive games.

>>389314492
>me ooga team booga
The moment you stop giving a fuck about winning, you can finally enjoy the game again. I quit being a metafag a long time ago and have played nothing but Junkrat for the past 3 seasons with my chat muted.
t. 4200 SR also please fuck off to /vg/ with OW threads, this game is trash

>>389314492
The biggest design rule for this game was that casual babbies shouldn't get angry, so they made sure that you are not allowed to carry. This means that you are more dependant on your team mates than in other games which leads to an incredibly frustrating experience.

Only rational move is not to play this poorly designed abomination.

>>389351462
The meta is completely fucked with half the roster being unviable.

>>389352043
Like pretty much every single fighting game...?

>>389314492
one of the probably few things in common those games had was you
it's also the only thing you have control over changing
go work on that, faggot

>>389351462
>Explain what makes it not competitively viable compared to other, in your opinion, competitive games.

Using your logic anything can be "competitively viable".

Overwatch was designed to be a fun, very basic and straighforward game. It was based off TF2 which wasn't designed as an esport name, nor was it a good fit for it for numerous reasons.

Pong is competitive, but do you really think people would enjoy watching people stream that shit on live TV? There's a huge difference between a competitive game and a game that's a good esport game.

>>389352121
Fighting games involve more skill in playing any single character than Overwatch does across it's entire roster.

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I love when no one talks on the mic until after we lose. :^)

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>>389314492
What's the point of placement matches? I did TERRIBLE. I won only 3/10. And yet I'm still high diamond. Just two wins away from Master. I played so bad I should have got gold this season.

>cant hit shit as most dps
>pick reaper and shred through enemy teams just from mediocre flanks

just me?

>>389354875
see
>>389348352

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>support mains dominate the top ranks
>DPS mains dominate quickplay

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>>389355962
What did he mean by this?

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>>389355962
>>389356186
NA for good measure

>>389356186
>>389356310
damn this has to be the first time I've actually been blown the fuck out like this

>>389314492
"Hell" is a meme perpetuated by shitters. It's been proven countless times.
If you cant rank up over an extended period of time - you belong where you are.

only shitters play support

>>389356186
Tracer and Genji are borderline broken when played right.